A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Do You Eat or Drink Soup?

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

Today, Josh and Nicole take on a much heated debate on whether soup is eaten or drank! Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video version of this podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is Mythical. Hey Josh, are you thirsty? Why yes indeed, Nicole, I am quite parched. That's great! Well, I have a bowl of piping hot butternut squash soup waiting for you. Nicole, I hate you and you're ruining my life. This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich! Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what?

That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show where we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Scherr. And I'm your host, Nicole Inayati.

And if you noticed that intro, we were doing a little bit of stage acting there, right? A little bit of stage acting. We are thespians. I have been a thespian since high school. I have a lot in common with thespians. We both love- Did you go to that cool ritual that they do? What? The thespian since high school. I have a lot in common with thespians. We both love- Did you go to that cool ritual that they do? What?

The thespian ritual. What thespian ritual? You don't- So you're not a thespian. I wasn't invited to the thespian ritual. I'm not cool enough for the thespians? Well, if you're a thespian, write in the comments if you know what I'm talking about. I'm just saying, I love women's softball.

Today, we are talking about do you eat or drink this is the dumbest podcast no the dumbest one was about the aliens for sure i wanted a whole extended rant about how men struggle to make friends which is true the loneliness epidemic is real i'd recommend joining a hobby group you know um but anyways i talked about the dukes of hazards car yeah and the dogs in it. Definitely. But this is probably top five stupidest podcasts we've ever done. But I also think it's important. This is one of those, Nicole, where we're going to dive deep into the ontological implications,

the etymological expressions, the tautological indubitamations. Wow, lots of big words. Because, listen, to drink. Yes, to drink. To drink. The verb. Dr verb drinking from the old german so it's taking to consume a liquid yeah it's taking a liquid and and just doing one of these hold on yes yes yes to eat from the german drinking this is actually wait no what did i say drinking is german no actually both of them are words. I was hoping to find some sort of clue in the etymology of both words, but they are just both Old German transposed

into Dutch, transposed into English, and it's literally just like eaten and drinking, and one means eat and the other means drink, and there's nothing deeper. But if you look into the words, what really separates them? Because I famously said beverages do not exist.

Everything is just nutrition. I drank a protein shake this morning, right? But you didn't eat it. I didn't eat it, no, because I slurped it down. I was actually on a Zoom call, and I was just going, yeah, the thing about that scheduling-wise is... So I definitely drank that, right?

One could say that. However, inside that were a full cup of blueberries. There was 50 grams of protein in the form of whey protein. Sure, yeah. There were oats. Okay. There was peanut butter. There was yogurt.

There was a lot of stuff in that that you do eat. Yeah, but not in the context that you were enjoying it. Let me ask you a question. I'm ready. Acai bowls. This is actually something that really messes me up. Oh, acai bowls. I hate acai bowls. I hate acai bowls.

I hate acai bowls too. Why do you hate them? Because it's sherbet. It's ice cream. Well, it's just a smoothie in a bowl. It's a lie. So much so. So much so.

So much so. I think it's more frozen yogurt or sherbet. I don't think it's a smoothie bowl. It's too thick. They literally call them smoothie bowls in some of these restaurants. That's okay. They're wrong. Okay.

But like say there's not acai in it. I think it's really weird that we have devoted in one acai culture in Brazil is like very legit. Yeah. Sure. But I think it's actually very regional. And then if you go like outside in the cities, they're yeah, it's a native Amazonian fruit. But I think it's like very regional because it spoils really quickly.

So when you have to like export acaii which a lot of Brazil is a huge country you have to freeze it and so like you go to a big city like Rio de Janeiro or something and you have to you know you're eating it

in the same ice cream ass form it's the only way yeah yeah but it's weird that we have like stand alone restaurants that are solely devoted to af fruit

that they've effectively just turned into a smoothie but they don't but normally acai bowl places don't just sell acai anymore. No, I know it's, but it's weird.

They're called acai. It's called like acai jungle, Amazon acai. There's something called Ubatuba. Oh, I, oh my God, I'm an Ubatuba stan.

And they sell avocado toast and whatnot. I mean, I mean, it's enticed the, the, the crowd that they want. But my point says, I'm not doubting their business model.

They're all going to go belly up in like three years. You said that three years ago. I really did. They're still kicking. They're still kicking. Why? Just have a smoothie. There's nothing that special about acai.

Superfoods are a myth. They simply don't exist. What does this have to do with eating and drinking? Because acai bowl should be drunken, not eaten. Not. It depends eaten It depends on what Let me know The viscosity The level at which it is served

The frozen level Viscosity changes with any frozen Food though I get that Based on temperature You're telling me I put an acai bowl in my car Right I want to enjoy this acai bowl in my car, right? Yeah. Because I'm like, ooh, I want to

enjoy this acai bowl in the comfort of my own home. Okay. While watching, what's that show that I started watching? Not Breaking Bad. The other, Better Call Saul. You started watching Better Call Saul? I just can't get into it. I don't know. Like, Bob Odenkirk's great. I just, like, give me a reason. Give me a reason. Give me a reason to care.

But anyways, I'm trying to watch Better Call Saul. Okay. I want to have a nice acai bowl. It melts a little bit in the Burbank heat. Okay. You know what I mean? Suddenly, this is a more appropriate food to be drank than it is. Sure, that's fine. But that's up to you. You decided.

You had free will. How? Wait, how did I decide? By leaving it in your car. Okay, but when it comes to the actual act. What are you talking about? What we're trying to get down to. What do you want from me?

What am I ever talking about? When I'm talking about the actual act, what we're trying to get down to... What do you want from me? What am I ever talking about? When I'm talking about the actual act of eating versus drinking, what separates it? Peristalsis. What do you mean peristalsis? Mastication and peristalsis. The non-voluntary epiglottal pulsing?

Yeah. To move anything? No, anything can be peristalsis. Let me tell you, mastication and peristalsis. Don't masticate too much. You'll go blind, honey. You know, you got to chew it a little bit.

You got to break it down so it can go down your esophagus and go through all the intestines. You are saying anything you have to chew, you are then eating and not drinking. Correct. Okay, well, let me ask you a question. I saw a video of this lady, right? Was it sexual? No, for some. Now this was a real big hot dog.

Oh, I saw! And now she put the hot dog all the way down. What's her name? And she didn't chew. It wasn't Raina's. Raina is crazy. Was it Raina? Yeah, yeah, Raina is crazy.

Raina is a professional eater. Yeah, talented. But I would argue that she drank this hot dog in question based on your definition of having to chew did she know because at her videos you never actually see her finish it she just puts in her mouth and smiles so you're lying still though believe there's a world in which

people can swallow a hot dog okay but I'm saying the act of eating is the act of it going all the way down and and the stomach acid and the juices now we're getting into the idea of deep faking a video i don't believe she faked that i think she digested that hot dog no she no you're being silly can you know this this is an important hinge of my argument maggie could one feasibly shove a hot dog? Meggie, talk about the hot dogs and the throats.

Okay, well, I'll talk to you. Somebody could feasibly, I believe medically this is possible, to take a whole 10-inch Hebrew National Wiener, cut, of course, and shove it down the throat to the point. 10 inches long? Okay. Okay. Five and a quarter, and you shove it down, and you don't chew it at all and you do fully

digest it you would then say that they have drank that hot dog as opposed to eating i think they have swallowed it i think they have swallowed it because there was no mastication and there was no esophageal so they did not eat that hot dog because they didn't chew it no they swallowed it there's a difference between eating drinking and swallowing. Interesting. A third player has entered the chat. Okay, let me ask you a question, Nicole. You sounded like you were about to say, my lady. That was really funny. Let me ask you another question.

What was that? Boba. Love it. I love it too. You chew the boba, you eat the boba, you drink the drink. So you have like, say a milk tea, a nice jasmine milk tea. I'm a taro fan. I'm a taro milk tea fan. Just like where else am I going to get taro flavored stuff? I've got to go all the way to

Yogurtland and sometimes Yogurtland doesn't have taro. Oh my gosh, I haven't been to Yogurtland since I took you to the doctor. The other day I was just taking a walk around the neighborhood because I'm trying to do that more. Oh yeah? Look where your cortisol level is. Yeah, you know, but then I was walking by Yogurtland and I was like, be a nice little afternoon.

Pick me up. And I almost walked in, but I didn't because it was just all children with their families. Oh. And I was like an adult man. I couldn't. And I was like sweaty. I was walking. It was hot.

We're in the valley. Sure. And I was like a sweaty adult man. I just couldn't handle being near these children and being like, I want ice cream just because I can't handle my cravings and emotions. Okay. And so I didn't do man. I just couldn't handle being near these children and being like, I want ice cream just because I can't handle my cravings and emotions. And so I didn't do it. But you're saying that you drink the milk tea but eat the boba. Correct.

Because you can do both things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Soup. Yeah. Now we mentioned soup. Okay, now do we eat or drink soup? Depends on the soup we're consuming. I don't think, though, if you argue that soup is one meaningful category, which I do not. I categorize it in my soup. Depends on the soup we're consuming. I don't think, though, if you argue that soup is one meaningful category,

which I do not. I categorize it as a nice soup. If you're arguing that these, right, are all a category. Tell them what these are, Josh. Not everybody's watching the video. So in front of us, we have three bowls of soup. We have a butternut squash pureed soup. We have a three-bean chili soup. And we have a

chicken noodle soup. Three soups. We got the chunkies. We got the smoothies. And then we got the broth based. Josh is housing a whole quart of butternut squash soup. So that went down easy. What separates this butternut squash soup from my smoothie this morning? Can I tell you something? Absolutely nothing. I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing there's anything different about it. So you're arguing that I just drank that soup. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And you're arguing that I drank my smoothie. Wait, but you drank it with a spoon. Is that meaningful? So what? Is that meaningful? I'm asking. No. So then are you eating or drinking acai bowls?

Say you get a plain acai bowl. Say you get a plain acai bowl. Mm-hmm. Right? Are you eating or drinking that acai bowl? You don't get the coconut. You don't get the almonds. You don't get the bananas. Is it suitable like yogurt? It is. You're

eating it. Why? What is different? Because I'm not holding it in my mouth and letting it dissipate. I'm actively masticating. Nicole, people of America and beyond, Nicole wants to come into your homes with a timer and time you for how long you're holding your yogurt in your mouth

to see if you're eating or drinking it. Do you? No, you don't chew yogurt. You swallow your yogurt like home? What are you? No, make the motion on how you chew yogurt right now. Think about eating yogurt and make your mouth motion. Your teeth are not making contact.

They are making contact. What are your teeth doing? What are your teeth doing? What are your teeth doing to the yogurt? Masticating. What do you mean masticating? There's nothing in yogurt to masticate. You put chunks in your yogurt.

You're eating like a nice raita or something. I had yogurt. Let me tell you what I did last night. I had some skir. Skir? Skir yogurt. Skir.

I had some skir yogurt. Skir. I put some honey and some chia seeds on it. I don't need to chew any of those things. Nicole Anayati, daughter from Reykjavik.

Eating her skir. It was so delicious. And I just, you know, just as like a little like snack. And then I chewed it because it needed to be chewed. I can't just, you can't just suck. You cannot suck yogurt out of a straw. Not skir. You just said that you drank this soup with a spoon.

Bulgarian yogurt because it's thin enough. You know the probiotic one, the mountain one? I love Bulgarian mountain yogurt. The Bulgarian mountain yogurt with the probiotics you can with a straw because it has the texture, consistency and viscosity to be sucked up by the power of your mouth.

So it's not about chewing. You lied. Nicole said earlier that it was about chewing. You lied. Nicole said earlier that it was about chewing. No, you're going to drink that chili. I'm going to eat this three bean chili because you cannot drink chili. Can you drink chili? No.

Okay. Josh has porn chili. Not chewed once. Oh, oh. I'm so sorry. I swallowed a bunch of beef and whole beans just to make a point. Not chewed once. Oh, oh. I'm so sorry. I swallowed a bunch of beef and whole beans. Ew.

Just to make a point. Yeah. The point is I drank that chili, right? Eating and drinking is not a matter of the noun. Can I tell you something? Did you drink that chili just to drink it to prove that you can do it? Or what about you take a- It doesn't matter. What I am about, Nicole, is pushing the limits of what is and is not possible.

You're being ridiculous. If I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that one could matter. What I am about, Nicole, is pushing the limits of what is and is not possible. You're being ridiculous. If I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that one could- Oh, I'm covered in chili. If I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that one could feasibly drink soup, right, then I think you throw the whole argument off. It's not about proving what is true. It's about proving one insane specific example

of what could potentially hypothetically be false if you have a weird person who's willing to risk choking on a podcast to swallow chili whole are you a pill like a comfortable pill swallower oh my comfortable oh my god no gag reflex on this guy no i'm well up a bunch of spit that's one of my biggest flexes that i don't need to drink water with pills it's actually harder with water because water is a terrible lubricant. It actually adds more friction. It's like well up a bunch of spit. Yeah, the spit helps it.

Is the OG lubricant, right? Like that's what, I mean, in the ancient world, what do you think they were? It was just spit and olive oil. Hey, how often do you think about the Roman Empire? I think about the Roman Empire a lot. Yeah, we are now in the middle of the Twitter storm Of women finding out that all men Think about the Roman Empire constantly

And it's absolutely true I think about the vomitoriums all the time Where they actually reference it in the Hunger Games You know the scene of the Hunger Games When Katniss is in the capital for the first time And she has this very big banquet And there's a lot of food She's like, I couldn't eat another cake, I'm stuffed

And then somebody's like, here, give you this pill And she's like, it makes me hungry And she goes, no, it makes you sick And then you eat more. That's just a reference to the decadence of the Roman empire. And so many people think that like the Visigoths, the Osigoths, various barbarians, you know, came in really where the downfall of it. But if you think about it, I mean, the cultural decadence, it's like, how much does that actually influence on a person to person policy level, you know, combat to combat. So with chicken noodle, that you clearly have to chew the chicken noodle soup.

But if it was a chicken noodle soup that was just the broth, maybe a few carrots, onions that I've really sweated down, you could drink that and it would be a delicious experience. But chicken noodle, the noodles too thick, too wide, egg, egg noodle, impossible. You want to see me swallow that noodle, Nicole? You want to see me do it? I really don't want you to. No chewing. I will drink this noodle. Josh, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Gone. No chewing whatsoever. I don't see why this is

difficult to understand. Dude, that noodle is going to come out of your butt in the same exact should be so lucky. Drinking and eating, Nicole, is merely a matter of the human spirit. No, if we get down to it though, like, soup is a category.

It's very culturally specific. We've sort of touched on this before. That's a good chicken noodle soup. It's a delicious chicken noodle soup. We've touched on this before where like, you'll go to some,

say like a Vietnamese restaurant or a Chinese restaurant, and they'll be like, this is the noodles portion. They're like, you can get this dry or wet. And then the soup portion is something that doesn't have noodles. So to me, certain soups are defined by their solids. That's what I'm saying. Why are you fighting me about this? We're on the same page, buddy.

I'm saying the soup does not exist. Ergo, do you eat or drink soup? Which is a real question that was posed to us. It's a meaningless question, right? No, see, now you're going too far off the deep end. But no, can I offer, can I be like a, I would call myself like a true soup scum. What's a true scum?

True soup scum right here. I am like a scum of the earth who is a hardline thinker that there are only certain true soups in the world and other soups should not be in that category. Okay, what are the true soups? Butternut squash right here. This is a true soup. Why? Because it is smooth and drinkable. To me, soup necessarily, Nicole, needs to be something that is drinkable. Something like pho or or even chicken noodle, or

kreplach, or what's it called? Mishmash soup? Mishmash soup? You go to a deli, you get mishmash. Oh, you told me all this. I've never done that before. It's like equal parts chicken noodle and... Kreplach? Or something that's chicken noodle, kreplach, and kanedlach. Oh, I don't do that. A lot of achs. A lot of achs in Ashki Jewish food. I don't do that stuff. But, um,

I don't... But let me tell you, the fact that there's, do you want a napkin? Can we get him a napkin? It's necessary. For those of you only listening to this podcast, I have soiled myself and I need a nappy. Nicole, you're saying I'm listening. I can be professional while I'm covered in chili. Do you want to see the Alex Jones deposition? I've never seen it. Alex Jones is being deposed and it's just like... Right now? No, this is a couple years ago.

It was when his wife was basically like, my ex-husband is very unhinged. He should not have any visitation rights to his children. And then Alex Jones' lawyer was like, no, you don't understand. This is merely a character and he makes a lot of money and provides for his kids doing this. This is not the real Alex Jones.

And then in a deposition with police, they go,lex jones is this just a character or is this you and he you can see the wheels turning where he goes if i say this is a character the jig is up i no longer have info wars i cannot keep this up people know the facade is gone however if i say that it is a character i can actually get my kids back and he takes takes off his shirt. And they go, Sir, why did you take off your shirt in a legal deposition? And he goes, I ate a bunch of chili! And I need to take off my shirt when I eat chili! And so you

see him, like Leonardo DiCaprio in Shutter Island, make the decision that he would rather die as a monster than live as a good man, I guess. Anyways, that's how I feel right now. You were saying? Do you want to take your shirt off during this deposition?

Please don't. Please don't. I've had enough. Someone, Alexa, play Pony by Ginuwine. Oh, my God. Nicole, acapella Pony by Ginuwine. I'm just a bachelor looking for a partner. My back hurts too much. Someone who knows how to ride Without getting thrown off

Gotta be compatible I don't think I like butternut squash soup. You know, Timbaland produced that and he actually talked about how the was like, he had that beat for 10 years. Really? Before he gave it to Genuine. That's incredible.

I find it fascinating that Jump Around by House of Pain, you know? Yeah, yeah. Beat was originally written for Cypress Hill. Well, that makes sense.

And then Cypress Hill was like, hey, for whatever reason, I can't rap to this beat. Give it to somebody else and they gave it to House of Pain. The only hit they ever had. The only Irish hip hop group.

The white Irish Bostonian equivalent of Cypress Hill. That's right. You were talking about soup. Yeah, what was I saying about soup? I was like so into it. I'm talking about pho. Oh, yeah.

So you would consider the noodles, like you don't chew the noodles in pho? Pho is not soup. Pho is not soup. Pho is noodles. No, pho is not soup. Ramen is not soup. Soup is a very American term. Like I don't believe that you would.

What about stews? Stews. You eat a stew. Oh, you don't believe that you would. What about stews? Stews. You eat a stew. Oh, you eat a stew. Let's not get carried away. You definitely eat a stew. But I would say if any Vietnamese person could weigh in on this, I don't know that you would even necessarily care about the term soup

if you're in Vietnam. You would just say, I'm eating pho. Right? I'm sorry. But then if you have something like bà cò, right? Like, that's a stew. And that's like a, you know. Hearty, like. A dish. Right? Sorry. But then if you have something like bakal, right? Like that's the stew. And that's like a, you know,

hearty, like a dish. Yeah. It's chewable. It's almost like when we talk about curry, right? Yeah. Well,

curry is all around the world. Curry is not a soup, is it? Unless it's curry soup. I'm just talking about like the etymology of it, where we take a word from our American English perspective, and we try and force it on, you know,

the rest of the world because butternut squash soup and pho have so little in common, right? They have like less in common than like, I don't know, starburst in a steak, I think. Do you want to know what the definition of soup is?

Yeah. A liquid dish typically made by boiling meat, fish or vegetables, etc. in stock or water. The definition of soup is terrible. Or, a substance or mixture perceived to resemble

soup in appearance and consistency. You can't use the word that you're defining in the definition. That's just bad. I like that part of the definition, but I think that's a very myopic definition. Even using the term usually, right? Look up the definition of taco. This is what bothers term usually, right? Look up the definition of taco.

This is what bothers me about dictionaries. Look up the definition of taco. The Google definition? I believe it's Merriam-Webster. Okay. What does that say on dictionary.com? It's on Google. A Mexican dish consisting of a fried tortilla typically folded,

filled with various mixtures such as seasoned meat, beans, lettuce, and tomatoes. Yeah, so typically a fried tortilla, that's flat out wrong. If you looked at all the tacos served, it being fried and crispy is very atypical, especially when they're referenced as kaboom. Miriam Webster. The dictionary gets it wrong very often. Miriam Webster says, a crispy or soft corn or wheat tortilla

that is folded or rolled and stuffed with a mixture. That's not bad. That's better. What I'm saying, though, is butternut squash soup and pho have very little in common. Even chili. We've argued that chili is not a soup.

It is actually a stew. Rather, I believe it to be a curry in that very nebulous term. Right? I think there needs to be a separation between all these things. In fact, I would argue that on this table, we have a three-bean chili. We have butternut squash soup. We have chicken noodle soup. Sure.

These are three separate genuses. No way. This is a true soup. Okay. This is something that is drinkable. All true soups are drinkable. This is a noodle dish with broth. Oh, my gosh.

You cannot. This. No. No. I have the spirit spoon. I get to talk. Okay, fine, fine, fine. This is a stew or curry,

which could be a subset of stew if you really want to raise stew to an umbrella term. These are three separate dishes. So if you're asking me, do you eat or drink soup? I would say yes. I drink this, which is the only true soup,

as well as a smoothie. So you only drink soup that is butternut squash soup? Not butternut squash. Oh, tomato soup, Nicole, cream of mushroom. So you only drink soup that is butternut squash soup? Not butternut squash. Oh, tomato soup, Nicole. So anything that's blended. Cream of mushroom. So anything that's blended? Blended or has reasonably small enough bits,

a la cream of mushroom. Not every mushroom has to be blended in. Small enough bits to where you do not have to chew. Also, you ever like, okay, this is gross, but you ever like throw up after, it could be a night of drinking, could just be whatever, and you realize how little you really chew your food?

Sure, I've been there. Just whole slices of mushroom? I've never seen whole slices of mushrooms in my vomit, but I don't eat mushrooms. There was a pizza place that I used to go to a lot in college, Enzo's. Shout out to Enzo's. Oh my gosh! You've been to Enzo's?

Oh my gosh, we used to go after every UCLA frat party. No, everyone's like, you gotta go to La Monica's, they import their water. No, no, no, nobody cares about La Monica's. You go to Enzo's. No, we gotta go to La Monica's. They import their water. No, no, no. Nobody cares about La Monica's. You go to Enzo's. No, no. We gotta go to Enzo's. Enzo's is the best pizza in Westwood. But, well, hold on. Josh, how can you say chicken noodle soup is not a soup? Of course it's a soup.

I'm now amending my beliefs. What is it? A noodle dish? That's so shady. I've had a revelation. The noodles aren't even the star of the dish. They're the second word. I've had a revelation. What? Butternut squash soup of the dish. They're the second word. I've had a revelation. What? Butternut squash soup is not soup. A baby food? All true soups are in fact smoothies.

Okay, elaborate. Okay, so I said earlier that there's nothing separating this from my smoothie earlier. Literally. I mean, it's the same exact consistency. Somewhat similar nutritiously even. You know, you got starch, you got sugar, you know, I'm sure there's some protein from the dairy in that soup. And I literally consume it in the same way. If you were, if you would eat this butternut squash

soup with a spoon, you should also eat a smoothie with a spoon. Like you should just drink both of those. That made me think that, well, a savory dish would be a true soup and a sweet would be a smoothie. No, no, no. There's nothing really separating those at all. That's fine. Yeah. This is a smoothie. And then, okay, let me amend my rankings of these.

But it's warm. What? You ever eat smoothies warm? Yeah, it happens. Okay. No, I'm talking about intent, Josh. You're just using outliers and being like the fringe. Nobody cares about the fringe.

The fact that you get to do these things as a fringe person doesn't mean that you have to be the all-encompassing authority on it. Do you remember the time you made gazpacho, Nicole? Yeah. What was David's criticism of it? He wishes it was hot. He wishes it was hot. Which one, as a judge?

But then it's not a gazpacho. Then it's not a gazpacho. And a gazpacho is a Spanish what? Soup. Soup. Right? But it's cold. You're arguing gazpacho is a smoothie. Either you have to agree, Nicole, that a gazpacho. And a gazpacho is a Spanish what? Soup. Soup. Right? But it's cold. You're arguing gazpacho is a smoothie.

Either you have to agree, Nicole, that a gazpacho is a smoothie. The gazpacho is the fridge, but that doesn't mean it needs to be all-encompassing and everybody has to... Just because gazpacho feels a certain way doesn't mean everybody has to be the way gazpacho is. You can respect the fact that gazpacho is different. You ever have like a chilled like cucumber and pear soup at like a nice family like a nice fancy restaurant no you never had one of those it's like champagne you've never had a pear soup wait is this just a thing for me no i'm an aristocrat

from the 1800s what are you talking about it is like a really stupid old school dish but it does exist i've like i think the first time i had it was like on a cruise when i was like 14 this guy goes on cruise this is the poor people cruise this is like the like 179 dollar but like we got a coupon because we spent so much at like kmart that they gave us a discount for like 89.99 and it's like three days and it kind of just goes around the harbor in la okay it'll go down somewhere in mexico but like you're in la you're literally 100 miles from mexico it was probably an Ensenada cruise Instead of having a bar mitzvah You know what my parents did

They took me on a cruise to Alaska for like a week And you didn't get the pear soup No but I tried escargot when I was like 12 I tried escargot on a cruise too We're so similar Aw Joshy that's so cute But can you at least empathize with what I'm saying? No!

Why? I don't need to empathize to get my point across. What is similar between these three things? This has noodles. This is just a bunch of beans and stuff.

And this is just a smooth, literally a smoothie. Nicole? They're bowls of liquids that may or may not contain solids. That's chili. You put chili in it. That's chili in a mug.

Which is fine. Not chewing, I'm drinking my chili. But you're just doing that to do it just to be cool. No, I actually much prefer, and there's a scientific reason I would prefer drinking soups as opposed to eating them. Okay, I disagree. I think you're just trying to be a weirdo for the sake of being a weirdo.

You've never gotten soup in like a... I never order soup at restaurants, really. What the F? What about like a Korean restaurant? You get like a lovely like Seolleongtang, like Korean ox bone soup. Yeah. It tastes so much better. One...

When you drink it like this? The entire proud nation of Korea. What's up with the spoons, dude? Korean soup spoons. They're so shallow. You like them or no? No, I really... Well, it's because they serve it so damn hot.

They do serve it so hot. You can't. Which I do respect. But Korean soup spoons, they're very straight. They're very long. I like them. And they're very shallow. Yeah.

And I struggle because I got... Uh-oh, I swallowed too much beef. Yeah. I drank too much ground beef, Nicole. Uh-huh. But I vastly prefer drinking soups out of a little bowl miso soup is a great i do as well can i ask you a question wait you said you do what you do enjoy what uh drinking out of a bowl drinking what out of a bowl do you drink soup oh my god

nicole got tricked again into agreeing no no no no, no, no. Because in miso soup, all the things are little and easy to drink. So you are drinking this. You are drinking the true soup. I told you you can drink this one. I told you you can either drink the true soup. This, some chicken noodle soups could be as easy to drink as some miso soups. Not always. Some.

Okay, where have you found one? Find me the address. I will. No, honestly, like deli chicken noodle soups. So ones that don't have the big, like, what are these noodles called? We just call them egg noodles. Yeah, but there's a shape to them. What's the shape?

Egg noodle. Egg noodles, right? Some chicken noodle soups are made with, like, those little straight noodles. Those are infinitely drinkable. It's like drinking a tapeworm. But what if it gets lodged in your throat? What if the tofu gets lodged in your throat? That never happens. That never happens. It's silken tofu. What if the tofu gets lodged in your throat? That never happens.

That never happens. It's silken tofu. What if the seaweed, it's not silken tofu, it's just soft. I'm sorry for yelling. You chew the seaweed a little bit though, don't you?

Yeah, I do. I actually really like chewing the seaweed. So chewing the seaweed implies that you are also, you are eating and drinking. You eat and drink that soup. You eat and drink chili. You eat and drink chicken noodle. You drink pureed soup. Schrodinger's soup. I don't know what that means.

At any point, you're simultaneously eating and drinking soup. You take a bite of chicken noodle or sip it from a mug. The moment your teeth touch together, you have eaten. The moment they pull apart and water is sliding down your throat hole, you are drinking. Every single time you open and close your mouth, you are simultaneously in a state of eating and drinking that we can only colloquialize as consumption. Or swallowing. Or swallowing.

Get out there and swallow. You know, you've never done it. Come on. Go out and eat some soup. Swallow some hot dogs. Drink some butternut squash bisque. What do you think the biggest takeaway is from this, Nicole? That we both went on a cruise and had a start going when we were like 12 or 14.

Question categories. We think of all these as soups. But really ask yourself, what does chicken noodle and butternut squash have in common? What does pho and cream of asparagus have in common? I hate when you do this NPR voice. Nothing. I'm Ira Glass and I am recording from a closet. Here's the interesting thing about baseball. Now, I've been fascinated with baseball for a very long time. See, the pitcher, he throws the ball, but does he really? Have you ever seen the pitcher with a ball? Have you ever let your imagination run wild?

Maybe it's not a ball, Nicole. Maybe it's a butterfly. All right, Nicole. We've heard what you and I have to say. Now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there on the internet. It's time for a segment we call... Opinions are like casseroles. But before we get into that, we want to do our favorite segment, Review a Review.

Oh, yeah. It's where we take one of your reviews from Apple Podcasts. Please go out there and review us and give Oh, yeah. It's where we take one of your reviews from Apple Podcasts. Please go out there and review us and give us five stars. And today, today, Nicole, it is from Hi, I'm a Idiot,

which is, I believe, an intentional misspelling of idiot. And they've given us two stars saying, God, this show is mid. They find some decent topics, but they execute them poorly. And Nicole needs to listen

instead of always talking. Keep in mind, this is my opinion. I want the people who created this and currently run it to take none of this as an offense, but advice to make the show improve. I want nothing but for podcasts. I am not a fan of to improve.

I would give this review five stars. If I am rating it on a scale of how to be absolutely patronizing and using the guise of respectability politics to say something that is objectively hurtful and not actually constructive. People who go, I'm just giving constructive criticism. I want you to be better because you look like crap and you're a piece of crap. And I've said things that are objectively cruel. I would argue that Nicole does not speak for a majority of this podcast because I have a tendency to mansplain and steamroll. So what you've said, I would also just brand as misogynistic.

Sorry, I was listening. I give this review three stars. Yeah, the review's kind of mid. Anyways, Maggie, roll that first opinion. How fudge. Hey, Josh and Nicole. I've been a fan of Mythical Kitchen for a while, but I'm a recent fan of a hot dog as a sandwich. Thank you. So this is not a repeat

suggestion, but I'm here to talk about Angostura bitters. Okay. They're cocktails, but they are so much more versatile than that. I mean, you know, you look at the bottle and it says you should put it in soups and salads and fish and ice cream and all these different things. I'm here to say that they also work so, so well in French toast. I used them in my French toast this morning.

You know, it's the same thing as like putting vanilla in it. It's a spice extract and alcohol and it's nice and bitter and it balances out whatever sweetness you're putting on your French toast. So, so good. Angostura goes in everything. Thank you. That on your French toast. So, so good. Angostura goes in everything. Thank you. That is a fascinating opinion. And if you want to hear Nicole and I talk about that and many more, go check out our audio-only versions over at Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

wherever you get your podcasts. To all the video viewers, we will see you all next time. Check back. We've got new episodes every Wednesday out on audio and then Sunday out on video. Oh, thank God. Now the video people have left. Can we do opinions like casseroles? It's just so hard because you have to gesticulate.

You have to make sure there's nothing in your teeth on video. We can be ourselves on audio. I love being on audio, but I still like being on video. It gives me an excuse to put on fake lashes. I heard that video killed the radio star. Yeah. Yeah. Angus, do you feel better? I heard that video killed the radio star. Yeah. Yeah. Angostura bitters, Nicole. How do you feel about them?

This is so interesting because I've never used it in an application other than cocktails. But this has broadened my horizons. I would love ice cream with some Angostura bitters, actually. Vanilla ice cream with Angostura bitters sounds phenomenal. I have a large collection of bitters. So Angostura, I believe, is just a brand, right? Yeah, it is. It's really funny because somebody got me like a mixed little gift pack of bitters.

And some of them will be like black lemon bitters, which is a thing. Cardamom bitters. Cardamom is a spice. You want to see what that is. Black walnut bitters, smoked chili bitters. But then some of them will just be like aromatic bitters or like New Orleans bitters. But bitters are effectively an extract with a bunch of different aromatics and spices and whatever that are inside alcohol. They tend to be quite bitter. And in something like an old fashioned is probably the best expression of bitters. The original old fashioned was actually made with gin or so one very good bartender told me.

fashioned was actually made with gin or so one very good bartender told me you can old-fashioned any liquor and that is just a combination of muddled sugar with spirit and bitters and a lot of the flavor you're getting is from the bitters and so a really fantastic application the only other thing i've ever put them on is ice cream actually you've done that before and i did angostura bitters on ice cream and it was really delicious yummy because it Because it cuts the sweet. I love, you put a little bit of olive oil on ice cream, you put salt on ice cream. Sure, sure. Anything to just kind of cut through all that richness. I know olive oil is fat, but you get a lot of bitterness from olive oil.

Sure, especially if it's like super green. Yeah, that Olio Verde. That little young harvest olive oil baby. Ooh, give it to me. Alright, next opinion. Smart. You're a smart person. I like that. I like, baby. Ooh, give it to me. All right, next opinion. Smart. You're a smart person. I like that. I like smart people.

I think that if you use enough syrup on your pancakes, then you can make your pancakes into a soup. Oh, my God. Okay, love you, bye. Yeah, you can, but should you? Is that a recommendation by the, what is it, like the FDA? What's the food pyramid people? What's the American Heart Association?

Yeah, the American Heart, where you jump rope for heart. You ever do jump rope for heart? No, what is jump roping for heart? It was jump rope. You would have to jump rope at school. And however much you jump roped was how much monies they would match and donate for heart for heart problems oh we did something called a jogathon oh where you would get commitments from people for a certain amount of money per lap and i remember as a child they would always be like

well can i just give you like a lump sum of money and i was like we gotta do it per lap and they're like how many laps are you gonna run i was like i don't know how big the field is and i'm not very good at running because my thighs rub together and it hurts me yeah and they're like but like ballpark like we're talking four or like 30 and i'm just like i really don't know how big the can i just have money please i don't want to be here um are you a good jump roper right now do you yeah i do it was jump roping is a big part of crossfit i'm really good at double well they call them double unders do you do crossies i can't do crossies because i'm Do you jump rope? I do. Jump roping is a big part of CrossFit. I'm really good at jump roping. They call them double unders. Do you go do crossies?

I can't do crossies because I'm on the shoulder mobility. You can do crossies? Yeah, and I can do the one where you go on the side and go choo-choo. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I get the rhythm, the kind of boxing, single leg stuff. I used to do a lot of that in basketball. Yeah, I can't do where they hop and they do hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. I can't do that part. Okay, that's the only thing I can do. But I can do criss-cross and I can do... I the, where they like hop and they do hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. I can't do that part. Okay. That's like the only thing I can do. But I can do crisscross and I can do.

I really saturate. I would love to see what percentile I am in America of how much I saturate my pancakes with syrup. Because if I'm at like an IHOP one, IHOP, I think I prefer Denny's pancakes. Denny spent millions of dollars to revamp the pancake recipe in the last like five years. But IHOP, they got the syrups. Now they got the original maple. They got the boysenberry.

They got the strawberry. They got butter pecan syrup. The butter pecan's really good. Yeah, the butter pecan's really good. And I each, it's like Zulbia. Like Zulbia is a fried pastry that is soaked in a sugar syrup. Yeah. And then put on your plate and it's just sopping.

That's how I want my pancakes. I want to be able to bite into a pancake and go... And suck the syrup out of it. Oh, no. I don't like it like that. Like a fruit bat. No, I like... The thing about me and syrup, like, I like to do it from up high.

And I like to just kind of like crisscross applesauce like a Jackson Pollock. And I like it very, I like it like lightly smattered around. I don't like it saturated. I like it to sit on top of the pancake. And then I'm a big fan of butter on my pancakes. So specifically salted butter for some reason, you know, the one that they pre-scoop and it looks all like whippy and beautiful. Salted butter, a light syrup, and a fresh pancake is one of my favorite things on earth. It's been a long time since I've had it actually, so I'm going to have it today. I know that like no culture is better than another. What do you mean?

But also... Living in America. But also, how I know Japanese people are better than us is I was watching Terrace House and somebody made like American pancakes. And they're even being like, hey, it's like an American pancake dish. And I'm like, cool. And they put like a teaspoon of syrup on like two pancakes. And they're eating it and they're like, oh, it's good. It's a little bit too sweet.

And I'm over here just like making, like she said, a soup in my bowl with syrup. I don't like, no. Just being like, if the pancakes weren't here, I'd just drink it with a straw. Nope, not for me. But do you, boo. Balance is not a part of my diet. Do you, boo. Hello, Nicole.

Hello, Joshua. Hi. This is Jason from Texas, and my opinion is that peanut butter and jelly is perfectly acceptable to dip in your tomato soup. Think about it. You get the contrast of cold, sweet jelly with a warm, salty tomato soup. The heat gets the peanut butter a little loose. Get that big, wet bread slurp from the soup getting all up in the bread.

It's time to break grilled cheese's stranglehold on tomato soup dunkery and embrace the flavor spectrum that is PB&J&T. Keep up the good work. Shout-outs to the whole crew. Can I say how I feel? Please. I think that you're lying when you say the peanut butter loosens up. I think you're lying. I think you're just saying that to make your case stronger and there's no

empirical evidence that states that. There's no way a single dunk can create enough heat for the peanut butter to quote unquote melt or get loose. No, no, no. Peanut butter loosens. It's like coconut oil where it has such. No, it's not.

Yes, it is. They're both plant-based fats, right? They're like non-hydrogenated. Peanut butter loosens at such a low temperature. Now, my question, Nicole. You mean to tell me in tomato soup? You get a steaming hot bowl of tomato soup right off the bat. First dunk in there.

Also, it's going to warm up in your mouth, right? He's not saying that you dip the peanut butter and jelly in there and the peanut butter suddenly starts oozing all over the place. No, he's saying you dip it and you eat it. That's kind of what they implied. I think you are putting words in their mouth. No, I'm not. I feel like he came in here.

When I think of a loose peanut butter, you know what I think when I think of loose peanut butter, right? You're thinking about spreading it on a hot piece of toast. That's right. You know the peanut butter loosens, I get that. But it makes it sound like this is all room temp, if not cold,

you know, jelly, a jelly from a jar that was in the fridge. Sure, the jelly's cold. Nobody's denying that the jelly's cold. And let me tell you, whenever the cold jelly

hits the room temperature, peanut butter and the bread, it's going to drop the temp. It's going to drop the temp. Thank you. We're talking about soup. Like, the soups that we ate were cold.

Soups often are served hot. They're served boiling. Are you kidding me? Boiling is literally the best way to heat anything. Full stop. They were a little bit warm. They were not carrying it. By my second ground beef swallow, it was quite cold.

That's your problem. That is. But I welled up a bunch of spit to swallow the beef. Yeah, like it was a pill. I think this really works. If, if. No. I was going to say better than grilled cheese and tomato soup,

but I really love it. That's become a comfort food for me. I did not grow up eating grilled cheese and tomato soup. Me either. Especially Campbell's tomato soup. I find it's very sweet. It's arguably as sweet as jelly, which is why this person is bringing that up.

I think it bridges the gap. Do you remember one time I had to make Campbell's tomato soup for work at GMM? And I didn't know that tomato soup was condensed and I just gave them a bowl of uncondensed tomato soup. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. Oh, I do remember that. Did you want to fire me at that point? No, no.

I don't want to deal with paperwork. Are you kidding me? Okay, fine, fine, fine. For better or worse, we are here together for life. Okay, fine, fine. But no, I think this is really interesting. Also, peanut butter is inherently savory. I want to see peanut butter used in more savory applications.

I would honestly omit the jelly and just do peanut butter. Let me tell you what I would do. I think, actually, a fluffernutter might work better. I think it's cloying. I think at that point, without the acid in the fruit of the jelly, because to me, the fruit... No, let me tell you... You can make like a strawberry tomato jam and it'd be delicious, right?

But nobody's doing that. Who's doing that? Oh my God, god i'm gonna do that this weekend josh no see again you are just salty strawberry you're not the every man i thought you were talking about nicole we are not i thought you encapsulated so much more than just your own opinions world okay god is the only one who can judge me i came into this thinking that you had everyone's best interest in mind, but that's false. All you want is your- We are not walking on the ground. We are walking above on high. I don't know what that means. No, but honestly, like I think about what is potentially possible

as opposed to simply what exists because some of the greatest things that will ever be of this world have not existed yet. They have not been invented yet. That's fine if you want to be on Shark Tank. That's fine. We're not on Shark Tank. We're on this podcast. He's not been invented yet. That's fine if you want to be on Shark Tank. That's fine. We're not on Shark Tank. We're on this podcast.

He's out here in Texas and he's inventing something new and I feel like you're holding him back. I'm not holding anybody back. I just want, I want some, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Can you try it with a fluffernutter and call us back? Then maybe we can find some common ground. Also, some tomato soups are like sweet and creamy

a la Campbell's and that's kind of how I make mine. It's not nearly as cloying as like a Campbell's. I disagree. But some of them are just like marinara. Yeah, I like the marinara

style tomato soup. It's just marinara. And I could eat Rayo's jarred marinara. I could take down a whole jar of that eating it with a spoon. Like soup, yeah, me too.

But to me, it's not. When I'm craving like a sandwich and tomato soup, I'm cutting it with a little bit of either heavy cream or coconut milk. I break it down not. When I'm craving like a sandwich and tomato soup, I'm cutting it with a little bit of either heavy cream or coconut, coconut milk. I break it down too.

I make, I blend it. Straining it. Do you strain? No, I don't strain. But I want that sort of Campbell's-esque quality, although it tastes a lot better. I like the pulp. I don't want the pulp.

And tomato soup? Then you got to eat it. Then you got to masturbate it. Next opinion, please. So, Nicole and Josh This is Layton But you can just call me Dragon Okay Dragon

I will call you Dragon I'm wondering Should I divorce my wife Probably My reason being Someone offered her Half coffee Half Sprite

Or 7up With just a dash of cream I think that's absolutely nasty. Who drinks that? More importantly, who enjoys that? That's just gross. So I wanted your take on that. And yeah, that's my supersonic legend opinion.

Peace. Drag and gum and breathe and fire about the wife. I think your wife is actually deeply ahead of her time and a great tastemaker because there is a, I went to a, not like a fancy, fancy coffee shop, but like, you know, a cool metropolitan coffee shop the other day.

And I, at this point, all I want to drink is my Don Francisco butterscotch coffee flavored black coffee. Shout out to Don Francisco. Love their products. I used to watch Don Francisco every Saturday night with my parents. Un aplauso, por favor.

Remember that? No. You never watched the Don Francisco show? No, it's the same person that made the coffee. I know it's like an LA-based company. Oh my God. It was the best show ever. And there was this guy that would come in

in like this black mask and outfit and he would play the trumpet whenever somebody did like that. Like do-do-do-do-do-do. Best show ever. And there was this guy that would come in in like this black, like mask and outfit. And he would play the trumpet whenever somebody did like that. Like do, do, do, do, do, do. And then they would kick him out and say, Chagall. Oh my God. I have no idea what's going on right now. We're going to watch it after this.

Did you have a stroke? No. The Don Francisco show is iconic. Are you getting like a final destination premonition? Okay. Sorry. Continue. So this drink, it is espresso and tonic water.

Yeah, I've had that. I didn't want a full coffee. I especially didn't want something creamy. I was kind of thirsty for something bubbly. And I was like, yes, two birds, one stone. It was like a lemony tonic. And it just tasted awful. It was like fizzy, bitter farts.

It was awful. Well, a sidecar is espresso with a tonic water or sparkling water on the side, which I enjoy. But together... I love chasing espresso with... But even tonic. Tonic is just poison-flavored Sprite. That's what tonic is, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tonic is... It's as sugary as Sprite. It's the quinine. All it has is quinine. Quinine, yes. Which, again, 100 years ago, they didn't know how to make good flavors, so they had to use weird roots that were growing in the ground that they thought cured erectile dysfunction.

Shout out to Moxie Soda, because that is a real thing that they said it would do. No way! But yeah, they were just like digging up weird trees and roots, and so now we have the technology to make a Sprite, which tastes great, and mix that with coffee, which is medicine, because it raises your heart rate, makes you take

on the horrors of the world. Sure. And then you cut it with a little bit of cream. Assuming the cream doesn't curdle, that's a good time. I think it'd be delicious. Your wife's ahead of her time. She knows what she wants. Only get a divorce if there are other marital problems you're having. Maybe not coffee.

I would do espresso with this, not half coffee. Yeah. I think it'd be too watery. Somebody recently was like, there's so many divorces right now because people of this generation are selfish. And then somebody was like, you know women couldn't have bank accounts until 1974. You maybe think that that had something to do with it.

Well, I think there is a lot of divorce going on right now in pop culture with celebrities. And it's really upsetting. I think it's because there's too many options out there. Too many options. People always want what they can't have. I think it's because people don't want to try. I think people just don't want to try.

They just give up. I think people want to give up because want to try I think people just don't want to try They just give up I think people want to give up because there's so many other options out there But I think part of that is that people didn't have options When I say people, I mean women Didn't have options, they couldn't leave There's no such thing as a happy marriage And then a divorce You know, people are hurting

They have agency Yeah, I think I'm not saying it's like objectively good or bad. I just merely say, you know, something is going on. Sure, sure, sure. But I do think there's a lot of, like currently we're in a state of a lot of people just being incredibly individualistic and only. Oh, big time.

Big time. So there's a lot of that too. Yeah. So divorce your wife. Divorce your wife. Don't. Please don't. Oh, no.

Don't divorce your wife. No, no, no. And also stop using the D word so much, like in casual conversation. What, divorce? Yeah. Just don't say it so word so much, like in casual conversation. What, divorce? Yeah, just don't say it so much. What, if you don't say it, it's not going to happen? No, it's just don't talk about it so much. I think it's, I prefer to talk,

it's like why I like talking about death, because it's like, I feel like if I can face it, then, you know, it won't happen. That's fine for you, but I just don't think it's good. But yeah, stop the like, I hate, like the I hate my wife humor, you know? Like when I complain about Julia on this, I'm not doing it facetiously for the laugh.

I'm doing it because, like, she simply does not clean while she cooks. And also, you have to leave the garbage disposal area clear. I love my husband. I love him. He's a good man. Julia, you have to leave the garbage disposal because that's where the food can go in.

If you put dishes with food in it on the other side, it just clogs it. My husband's great. I love you very much, Jules. You're my rock. And on that note, thank you for stopping by a hot dog and a sandwich. The show where we take on the show of the shows.

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No, it's not because you're a woman. It's because you said you're like a college dropout. I'm a college dropout too. And that's not misogyny or misandry. I'm just, I'm a man who dropped out of college. You're a woman who dropped out of college.

If Kim Kardashian can get a private tutor, if she can go get a private tutor and take the bar, anyone can do it, honey. Nicole, you, okay, you go

make this podcast enough money so we can both get private tutors to pass the bar exam. I don't want to. I couldn't pass a high school exit exam

right now. You think I could pass the bar? I think don't want to. I couldn't pass a high school exit exam right now. You think I could pass the bar? I think, no, me either. I'm just projecting. Who's the sixth president of the US? Nobody knows. Martin Van Buren.

Not even close. It was either Madison or Monroe. No, it was Quincy Adams. Quincy Adams? Get me out of here.