A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Sweet vs. Savory Breakfast

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

Today, Josh and Nicole discuss the most important meal of the day and the most important question that comes along with it, which is the better breakfast --savory or sweet? Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video version of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@mythicalkitchen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is Mythical. Josh, do you think I give off more of a sweet vibe or a savory vibe? I think you give off both equally, like a Denny's Grand Slam. Aw, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Aw. This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what?

That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Ayer. And I'm your host, Nicole Inaidi. And apparently me telling you that you are the human equivalent of a bargain breakfast from Denny's is the nicest thing I've ever said to you.

I have paid you like very, very intimate compliments. Not intimate like that. I meant like emotionally intimate. What do you mean? Like what? Like how much I really appreciate you both as a friend and a co-host. I think you've shown great resilience

throughout your life. Your dedication to the people around you and those who you love is really admirable. Shut up. But no, calling you a Denny's Grand Slam. Is this pre their new pancakes or post? How calling you a Denny's Grand Slam. Is this pre their new pancakes or post? How much is a Denny's Grand Slam? If I had to guess right now, wait, don't tell me.

I'd say. $12.95. I'd say $11.99 Denny's Grand Slam. Could be, yeah. Oh, it's based off of location? Of course it is. California, living expenses are higher. Denny's expensive.

$12.49, build your own Grand Slam. Calories between 360 and 198060 and $19.80. That is a big jump. You said how much? I said $11.99. I said $12.99? $12.95? No, you said $12.99.

Things don't end in fives. We were equally... Did you just say things don't end in fives? Have you been to a store ever? No, but like at a fast food restaurant. They're going to end in nines,

not fives. It's like it was a $0.99, maybe like at a fast food restaurant. They're going to end in nines, not fives. It's like it was a 99 cent menu, not a... Anyways, what we're discussing today are sweet versus savory breakfast

because that has been a choice that we have been given in America, land of plenty. Right? You go to a restaurant, you go to brunch,

you go to a breakfast spot and you're often faced with, do I get the French toast that's, oh God, I had, do I get the French toast that's, oh God, I had a Thai tea babka French toast with salted condensed milk. Oh my God.

Oh my God, it was good. Salted condensed milk, that sounds really delicious. And as we all know, there is an appropriate move in a group setting, which is... I'm sorry? The move when you are faced

with a sweet or savory breakfast option if you're in a group setting is to? Oh, everybody gets savory, and then you get a stack of pancakes or French toast for dessert? Absolutely. Oh, okay. That was a true guess. That was like truly a guess.

What do you mean a guess? You don't do that? I haven't been to brunch in like three years. I'm not a brunch guy. I'm such a late night eater. I'm a sleeper. I sleep until like 11 on the weekends. Oh, my God. I wake up with an anxiety. I'm such a late night eater. I'm a sleeper. I sleep until like 11 on the weekends. Oh my God. I wake up with an anxiety attack at 6.30 in the morning. Even if

I've gone to bed at three in the morning, I still wake up at 6.30 and then my day's ruined. No, no, no. I sleep till like 11, 11.30 if I can, if I'm not woken up by a husband. I envy you so, so much. The fact that you have a husband to wake you up and I'm there all alone with my stupid fiance. I'm kidding, Julia. I'm so sorry. I love you so much. You're so crazy. But I'm talking about like weekday, right? Yeah.

Every day, working person's breakfast. Do you prefer sweet or savory? What are you eating for breakfast on those weekdays? I normally eat an egg. I like eggs for breakfast. An egg? One egg with a piece of toast and some sort of cheese with salt and pepper. That's actually, I mean, that's a very, I was going to say, historically accurate breakfast.

Is it? Oh, no way. Okay. So it's really funny. When I was a kid, a lot of us when we were kids, we grew up eating cereal, right? Which we've gone through the origins of that. That's very true. But cereal has become sweet despite the fact that it was never meant to be. Well, yeah, I agree. I think the mass majority of Americans, they like sweet cereal for breakfast.

But again, my household, geriatric grandpa's cereals was the move. Well, correct. Because I mean, starting your day with just like a massive amount of sugar, it may- It's not, it doesn't end well for anybody. No, it's delicious and I love it. But we can actually sort of like look to history to find out where breakfast traditions came from. And I didn't know a lot of this at all. And so literally if you break down the word break fast.

You're breaking your fast. Right from your last meal that you've had. You've slept for a long time. You wake up. You're breaking your fast. And the thing I didn't know is the French word for breakfast. You know what it is? L-L-E.

What did you say? E-L-L-E-O-U-S E-L-L-E-O-U-S E-L-L-E-O-U-S That's not a French word Where did you get that from? It is for me I don't know Elias Zephaniah is a professional in Nigeria

On LinkedIn Nigeria I'm sorry, it just came out of me naturally Petit Dijonais Petit Dijonais Pet Petit Dijonais. Petit little Dijonais. Dijonais. That's where it gets interesting. So Dijonais means lunch.

Oh, I was going to, it's a character in the Proud family. Dijonais. I think it's Dijonais, right? Not Dijonais. Dijonais. Am I saying it wrong?

There's also La Cienega Boulevardes, which is a hilarious name. All of her family members are named after streets. That's funny. Yeah. That's funny. Anyways. That's funny.

Anyways, déjeuner is literally the French word for break fast. Oh, cool. Right? And then petit déjeuner, another thing I did not know, you go back to the Roman Empire, they had something called iantaculum. I need Max Miller to teach me how to pronounce Roman words. But that was a traditional breakfast. Most laborers and farmers would eat breakfast.

And back in the day, breakfast was whatever food you had. So it was probably some sort of barley porridge or bread that was soaked in wine if it was old crusty bread. For breakfast? For breakfast. But as we transitioned into like the Middle Ages, we saw the three meals a day from the Romans go down to two meals a day, which makes sense why in French, déjeuner is just like, hey, you're breaking your fast with lunch, and then you go into dinner. And then petit déjeuner was sort of like added back in during the Industrial Revolution. I'm sure it predates the Industrial Revolution.

But when breakfast became more of a thing, a nice morning meal, it became like, hey, this is a little break fast. And so for a lot of human history, people weren't really eating breakfast. And that has been very faddish and changed but of course industrial revolution you had a bunch of factory workers and i'm reading um uh is it rachel loudon's food and civilization where they actually calculate the amount of calories needed for people to survive and thrive increases during the industrial revolution because people are working long hours in factories.

Yeah. That's very cool. It is really cool, right? And so now we have breakfast and there wasn't a ton of tradition. I mean, there was tradition to draw from, just people soaking bread in either stimulants or what's that? Depressants. Sure.

People did that. You look at a lot of Western European breakfast traditions. You're getting a pastry and a coffee. That's it, right? You go to Italy, you're getting a cornetto, right? Cornetto? Cornetto is an ice cream. Is cornetto Italian for, yeah, it's Italian for croissant.

Oh. And a lot of that's coming from the Austrian pastry tradition, Austro-Hungary, all that type of stuff. Okay. But we're in America, Nicole. That's right. We're in America. Yeah, that was good though.

So you eating bread. That's a lot of information. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. That's a lot of information. Just spewing it out. That was awesome. Yeah, thanks, dude.

Sorry, I really like learning about things. I love learning alongside you. I love learning about things. Cool. Thanks for teaching me things. Many people eat eggs for breakfast. Yeah, I like eggs for breakfast. But why do you like eggs for breakfast?

Because the taste of eggs in the morning makes more sense than the taste of eggs at night. But like that's not devoid of cultural context, of course, because I love eating eggs at night. I will eat. You eat eggs at night? I will say, okay. I never eat eggs at night and I never eat bananas at night. Those are morning foods. There used to be reasons throughout history why we did things, right?

No. And now there's none. What are you talking about? Like Industrial Revolution was like, oh, we all work hard so we need to eat more food and we need to eat more fat and protein so we can work harder. But like after World War II, we fully broke history, right? The atomic bomb was invented, Nicole? The atomic bomb was invented, Nicole. The atomic bomb was invented.

We could just suddenly erase the world, you know, from the universe. We could kill it if we wanted to. You know, that's... Okay. World War II breaking history, another great example, is that through all 250,000-ish years of humans being alive, the struggle has been, how do we get enough food?

Okay. After World War II, it suddenly became, and of course there was a grace period where it was still really bad for many people, but the history now has been we simply have too much food and that's kind of killing us. But why do we have so much food, but we still have so much food scarcity? I don't get it. Oh, general like supply line stuff. There's no profit in feeding the poor.

That's so stupid. I agree. All the billionaires need to like give like a few millions of their dollars and then just feed people. Yeah, there's some stat about like it would only take $10 billion to erase world hunger. Is that true? It's obviously really, really complicated

but I think the World Food Program from the UN has put that stat out there and they simply won't do it. Jeff Bezos wants to go up to space. How much money does Jeff Bezos have? What, like $150 billion? Something like that. After the divorce, probably less. $151 billion?

But that's not liquid. That's all in assets and stuff. Oh, yeah, sure. No, if you ask Jeff Bezos for 20 bucks, Nicole, he has not liquid. He can't give you the $20. He probably doesn't hold cash. He probably has a microchip in his eyeball.

He can't do anything about world hunger. He probably goes like this. He's like, sure. No, he creates a dick-shaped rocket. Go ahead. You can't say dick on the podcast. I said dick-shaped. It's a compound word.

He creates a phallic rocket, Nicole. You know what he probably does? He's like, oh, ask me. I'm Jeff Bezos. Ask me if you can have $20. Jeff Bezos can have $20. Sure. And then he just pulls his eyelid down and then the barcode goes into your brain. Oh, God.

Do you like eggs in the morning? You like eggs at night? No. We've broken history and I have continued to further break it within myself because i'll tell you why you're a broken man i as i got deeper into crossfit in the working out world in general okay um again i'm i'm currently out of crossfit because my back my back broken josh is taking a moment but once i get back in we're going right back to it. So I simply view all food as calories. I have no more, like carbs, fat, proteins.

I have no more like preferences on when I should or shouldn't eat something. It's all does this fit into, and I don't track my macros, right? Or track my calories. But it's simply all does this fit into what I need to complete a day. So if I'm running towards the end of the day and I'm like, damn, I'm like 20 grams of protein short of my goal, it's 9 p.m., yeah, I'm going to scramble up three eggs. So you don't track your calories,

but you track the macros? All up here. I don't write them down. Oh, but you still track them. I have a general like internal clock. No, no, no. That's great. I'm not judging you because of it.

Should I actually tell them my diet plan, what it is? It's up to you. Do you want to share? I would. I would. And I think this is somewhat rooted in science, right? So one gram of protein per pound of body weight. I'm about 205 pounds, so I shoot for around 200 grams of protein. And then to me, the carb-fat split doesn't actually matter.

I don't think carbs are worse or better than fats. I try and just like eat normally. I'll like eat some rice and some fat, right. Right. But as long as your protein is staying the same and you are maintaining your desired weight, which for me is about 205 pounds. Did you say one to one for protein and weight or two? One. So one gram of protein per pound. So you eat 205 grams of protein a day. That's what I shoot for. Yeah. So my protein shake in the morning has 50 grams of protein and then 50 grams, like seven ounces of chicken breast is 50 grams of protein.

That's not even that much, right? You can get it. Yeah. Right, like nine ounces of ground turkey. You can just do it. It's possible, yeah. And so I have four protein feedings. Those are meals.

Protein feedings. But they're protein feedings and then the carbs and fats. You sound like an alien. The carbs and fats, those are the fun little additions, right? Do you have your protein eatings for the day? Chimichurri.

You're getting some fat on there. That makes the protein more fun. The fats and the carbs make the protein more fun. But as long as you're maintaining your desired body weight, whatever that may be, then you're eating roughly the appropriate amount of fats and carbs. So that's what I do. So for me, I will eat eggs at any time of day. Morning, they don't even taste better to me.

I would love eggs at night. I mean. I would love cuckoo sabzi at night. I don't like eggs at night. I mean, yeah, if it's like on top of something as like a accent piece, sure. But I'm not going to like whip up an omelet at like 7 p.m. Why not? Like lean in, like think about the pure joy that you could get from like bucking historical trends right that doesn't

give me joy bucking history because my life isn't rooted in bucking historical wait wait wait you're not getting joy from bucking historicity i am not getting joy from bucking history you get joy do you say hysterectomy i said historicity i don't know if i use that word properly no um but let me tell you, sometimes every now and then, whenever you're having breakfast and you have to be on the run, everything you grab is typically on the sweeter side, right? Correct. The American canon of breakfast foods on the go, it's always to-go stuff.

It's a bar. It's a protein bar. It's a muffin. I don't know. What else is another thing? Like a shake. Granola, all forms of granola bars. Yeah, granola bars.

And they changed the names. They're baked oatmeal bars now. Whatever they are. Cereal bars. They're all sweet. Yes. Which sucks because I would love to have that same sensation of on the go and eat an egg bar. No, you would not.

Do you know how I know you would not? Do you know how I know you? Do you remember why you know you would not do you know how i know you do you remember why you know you would not egg bars do you remember when a company that we love very very much sent us egg bars that they made no and they were i don't remember not good i love this company to death and i will not name them good but they made but they know they sent it to us and they're probably listening i even if they do listen i i love them to death. I only buy their eggs. I wear your hat. It's Vital Farms.

I love Vital Farms. I love you and you are up against, again, thousands of years of trying to, like sugar is a natural preservative, so it makes sense to have it, but- But wait a second. Eggs don't need to be the bar version. Maybe there's like savory oatmeal bars.

Well, so- Like crunchy bars. I don't know if savory, you think savory oatmeal is the answer? I don't know. But wait, wait, is oatmeal inherently sweet don't know. Well, wait, wait. Is oatmeal inherently sweet though? No.

No, it's not. Wait a second. But we started adding sugar to every single cereal. So now we think of cereal as sweet. Cereal is carbohydrates, almost pure carbs. Which your body translates into sugar, right? Correct. But when you add refined sugar. But it's not sugary.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What if there's a world in which we neither like sweet nor savory, we just like regular breakfast? What do you mean regular? Like plain, like plain flavored breakfast. Yeah, I like. No salt.

Yeah, like a little bit of salt, but like, you know what I mean? Like, likeain. Like plain flavored breakfast. Yeah. I like. No salt. Yeah. Like a little bit of salt. But like, you know what I mean? Like, like, hear me out. Like. A blanc monde. The best. Yeah. The best morning breakfasts that I have are typically boring, run of the mill breakfasts. Let it be Weetabix and almond milk, oatmeal, coconut yogurt with some stuff on top.

Like those breakfasts, I feel better and I act more accomplished throughout the day versus a sweet or a savory breakfast. The bland ones allow me to get more stuff done. Is there a reason for that? Is there like a scientific reason of Soylent-esque like breakfasts? If you look at like, um, like Ayurvedic medicine. No, but I was going to say there's foods that like, I would say raise the humors, right? If you look at like Ayurvedic medicine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. No, but I was going to say there's foods that like I would say raise the humors, right? You talk about hot foods and cold foods.

Sure, sure. Right? To me, I don't believe in necessarily that cultural side of it. But what I do know is if I eat like a ton of bacon and eggs in the morning, I feel a little bit worse. I'm like burping up bacon. Ditto if I eat just a ton of pancakes. Yeah. I feel a little bit worse I'm like burping up bacon ditto if I eat just a ton of pancakes and even if it's an appropriate portion of an ultra sweet food

versus an ultra savory food I just don't feel as good that's why I eat the same protein shake every single morning because I'm like I can have this consistency

this is a building block for my day I built my house upon stone and not sand you know what I mean and so I feel that it's similar with you

eating like some plain porridge. Like it just, it feels nutritive. Yeah, it feels nutritive in place of like a flavor bomb of bacon, like you said. I wonder why that is. Some of it might be like pleasure delaying, where you're like, I'm going to eat. I need to earn my good meal later.

I need to send the emails. Because we're not working in a factory. But it's like I need to be productive and then I can earn my meal. And that was actually a lot of like writers in the Middle Ages. There were a lot of like weird medical writers and stuff back then. Actually the first time anybody mentioned

eating eggs for breakfast was a physician in the 1620s. No way. What's their name? What is their name? Tobias Venner. Nice. You should name your first son Tobias. Hey, Toby. I don't know, man. Toby?

Never mind. But no, there was this sort of idea of like it's like profane to eat before dinner. So there was just a lot of fasting going on. Yeah. And I think we still kind of feel that a little bit. I get hungies around nine though when I come back from a workout. You work out until nine at night? No, in the morning. I'm saying I get hungies. I want things to replenish my body. Do you eat before you work out?

Sometimes, but mostly not. Sometimes if I wake up super hungry and I'm like, I'm not going to be able to get through a workout, I'll eat a little protein bar. I need to eat an apple. And the protein bars are incredibly sweet. If I don't eat an apple and have a coffee before I work out in the morning, it's not a good time. Do you remember we had a company-wide meeting a couple days ago? Oh, yeah. And they always supply us breakfast

at company-wide meetings. Oh my god, they gave us donuts in the morning and I wanted to cry. We were all so we were all like incredibly bummed about it. V and I ran back into this kitchen with two minutes left so we could like – I just put protein powder in a shaker bottle and then drank that and grabbed an apple. And then V came in and like scrambled an egg as fast as she could.

Dude, I know. I came a little bit on time slash late, so I just grabbed a donut and got in there. It was horrible. I was like crappy the whole day. Which is funny because donuts are literally my favorite treat. They're like my favorite pastry and they're my favorite treat, but they're a treat to me. Not in the morning.

No. Starting your morning with that. Especially in a meeting. We have business to conduct. Are we like just being really LA right now? No, I don't. Cause I feel like New York,

you know, I get a coffee and I get a, you know, I don't get an egg and cheese with a salt pepper ketchup. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't get a- The bacon, egg, and cheese with the salt, pepper, ketchup. No, no, no, no, no. You got to get a donut because you're a police officer of the law. Are donuts in New York that we- Donuts and coffee is a very New York thing.

Yeah, but we look this up- We like foods with holes. I think LA has the most donut shops per capita. Okay, but when I think of donuts and coffee- I don't think of Indianapolis or something. I don't think of California. I think of New York. But why were you so mad that there was a sweet breakfast at play?

Because it was sugar. It was just so sugar. Is this just because we have demonized sugar, which is a very new thing in history? Maybe. Maybe. So a lot of breakfast foods have become super, super sweet because of World War II. But for real, this is actually really funny. I thought you were being dramatic. No, no, no. This is the thing. Sugar rations, right, were going on before World War II. But for real, this is actually really funny. I thought you were being dramatic.

No, no, no. This is the thing. Sugar rations, right, were going on before World War II. And then afterwards, it was like a big celebration of like, well, you know, let's add more sugar back into things. And so breakfast cereals, to me, are the biggest culprit of changing the palate of Americans and also our breakfast ethics. I hate cereal in the morning, like sweet cereal in the morning. But you love a non-sweet cereal in the morning, right? I love Weetabix, Grape Nuts.

Well, that was the original intent. It was you yogurt enema and you eat cereal and you can love God and work hard. Am I just one of these like weird Kellogg cult people? Am I in my core? I mean, they had a point, right? Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water just because they wanted to stop you from doing a little hand relief. We'll keep more at.

They also thought, you know, the idea of eating like whole grains in the morning, it is a carb that, I'm not a nutrition scientist, but a carb that digests slowly. Something like bran flakes, right? I love it. Tons of fiber. Fiber fills you up. You know, it's got a low glycemic index or whatever that's for.

Dude. You know? I'm just one of these cuckoo crazy cereal cult people. Yeah, but. I think going back to what you said about not heightening the arousals in the morning. Yes. Is very accurate. We are literally in the Kellogg's cult right now.

Because who wants to, can I tell you something? Go ahead. Who wants to start their mornings with a slap in the face of sugar, slap in the face of salt? Not me. It's a raging sugar on. No, I don't want that. I don't want that.

I don't want that. I can't have that. I got stuff to do. I mean, do I put a little bit of sweetener in my coffee? Yeah. Like maybe like the size of like my pinky nails. A chaste amount. Just a chaste amount.

Is chaste like religious? Maybe kind of like a little bit. Like a chaste amount. Just a chaste amount. Is chaste like religious? Maybe kind of. Like a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah. Oh my gosh. They've gotten to me. I am one of them.

Yeah. Which is. It sucks. No, lean in. Lean in. I don't want to. I would do that and sometimes I do eat

oatmeal for breakfast but I need the protein and that is. So you do proatmeal? Well, sometimes I do proatmeal. Sometimes I do brogurt where I add the protein powder to the So you do protmeal? Well sometimes I do protmeal sometimes I do brogurt where I add the

protein powder to the yogurt but I really enjoy drinking What are these words we've created? What? Protmeal

Protmeal and brogurt So protmeal is protein oatmeal it's not broatmeal Are you explaining to me or are you explaining to the people? I'm explaining to you

I said protmeal I know what it is No but okay fine I'm explaining to them Stop mansplaining to me mansplain to them I'm proslaining But it's weird because I have found myself like not It is. No, but okay, fine. I'm explaining to them. Stop mansplaining to me. Mansplain to them. I'm bro-slamming.

But it's weird because I have found myself like not craving savory foods until lunchtime. Yeah. Like at all. And I think it might just be because I grew up eating sugary cereal, stuff like that. But I guess I ate more savory breakfast when I was a kid. Like I ate a lot of lean pockets. I ate a lot of Toaster Strudels. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. But I ate savory lean pockets. Oh ate a lot of Toast and Churros. Oh, interesting. But I ate savory lean pockets filled with eggs and cheese. Oh, I ate Toast and Churros with the frosting that my mom would hide from me and I would ration myself. That ain't got the whole grains. No, that's the good stuff. That's got the fruit goo. But it's interesting that in the late 1800s, you get like this weird religious cult movement kind of tied into temperance and all that of like you want to eat grains. And then most people, again, were just eating what they had, which was bread and coffee.

Yeah. But then Industrial Revolution, Second Industrial Revolution happens. And there is an incredible story. We've talked about it before, but the reason that bacon ended up on breakfast tables. Bacon lobby? The bacon lobby, yeah. And not only the bacon lobby. Always comes back to the bacon lobby.

Legitimately, though. No, it wasn't necessarily the bacon lobby. It was one dude named Edward Bernays. Not like the sauce spelled differently. But he's literally considered the father of modern public relations. This happens in the 1920s. Oh, cool. The Beech Nut Packing Corporation hires him to just get people to eat more bacon.

And so he literally had a doctor on staff of his PR firm and said, hey, you think it's probably good to eat a lot of fat and protein in the morning? And the guy's like, yeah, people need it. And he goes, great. Can you ask 5,000 of your doctor friends to say that? And he went, sure, why not? Genius. And so they literally sent out letters and 4,500 doctors responded.

Because apparently back then you just got a letter and responded? I think you just wanted your name out there. Maybe. But they respond and then there are all these newspaper headlines reading, doctors recommend more protein and fat. Bacon and eggs is the perfect combo to get those things. And so that became a massive thing. And then you take the roll and the coffee that people normally had,

you put the bacon and eggs inside that, and suddenly you get the biggest industrial city in the world at the time, their signature breakfast of the bacon, egg, and cheese. That was very informative. We got the breakfast burrito. Would you, could you eat a breakfast burrito for breakfast? No. But you love breakfast burritos.

At 12 o'clock. At 12 o'clock. Right? At 12 o'clock. We need, we need another breakfast revolution. Okay. When we're talking about savory or sweet breakfast.

Let's start it. When we're talking about savory or sweet breakfast. Uh-huh. Right? We should just be pushing that back four hours. Right? What is your idea? Okay.

Okay. Okay. Can you map out for me what you think the new world breakfast order should be? I think we need to go back to like fully fasting and honoring God. I need you to put it in terms of like time. So like what time are we waking up? I think we should wake up with the circadian rhythms at the cock-a-doodle-doo of the rooster. So 5 a.m.

5 a.m. Okay. You know, you hit a hard two hours of CrossFit. Maggie, can you write this down? You meditate. You cold plunge. Wait, you're going too fast? You get oxytocin treatments.

Maggie needs to write this down. You go find... 5 a.m. awake with the cock-a-doodle-doos. You have to have... We have to have chickens. We're all going to have chickens in the new world. Okay. Of course.

Yeah. Two hours of CrossFit or CrossFit adjacent workouts. Or... Huh. Or maybe just meditating. No, no, no. You're going to want to meditate while doing the CrossFit. No, that's not how meditation works. Oxytocin treatments.

You want to find a stranger and make deep eye contact with them for 30 minutes. That way it raises your serotonin levels. I don't want to do that. I'm also here as your co-chair and I don't want to do that. I'm also here as your co-chair and I don't want to do deep eye contact. I'm getting it right now. You're not even looking at me. I'm getting the oxytocin right now.

You're so scared to look at me in the eyes. You can't even do it. I'm actually looking at my teeth right now. No, you're not. You're looking at my teeth. You're looking at my teeth right now. I can see the reflection of my teeth. What's funny is in other parts of the world,

they don't have this quandary. Like you go to Japan, right? And they have maybe the ideal breakfast. There's actually a TikTok craze going on called Japanese breakfast for skin, for glowing skin.

Really? Yeah. Well, what's a Japanese breakfast to you? I have an idea in my mind, but. I'm going to pull it up so I get this correctly. Because I'm thinking like.

I'll tell you. Steamed rice. It's six ounces of salmon, sake and salt in the rice, kimchi, cucumbers, miso, and that's it. You have like a North American fish, a Korean pickle, and liquor rice? Yeah. That's what Japanese people are eating for breakfast. Yeah.

That sounds right. But no, the idea of like cooked fish, rice, so you get like a delicious lean protein. Yeah. You get good simple carb from rice. You get some sort of probiotic, which a lot of Americans eat yogurt. A lot of Europeans eat yogurt in the morning. That's probiotics. I eat lox in the morning.

Why can't we eat salmon? I agree. Yeah. I'm just saying, I don't know how traditional that is because, you know. I just looked it up on Google in two seconds and it's just a craze on TikTok. It's probably not rooted in actual like Japanese like skincare stuff, but just people say omega-3 fatty acids are good for wrinkles, you know? Yeah, yeah. That makes sense.

Why didn't we continue our thing? What? You got distracted. No, no. Because I don't have any deep feelings about what breakfast should be, but I like breakfast should fit your own needs, right? And for a while, people say you were in a factory, say you were on a farm, right? Say your chickens laid.

I could never survive working in a factory. Me neither. Oh, my God. I would just, fingers would be severed. Oh, my gosh. Thank God. Ugh. Unless it was a shirt waste factory.

I feel like I could have. Shirt waste? It was a real big American tragedy where it's called the Triangle. Was it Triangle Shirt Waste Factory? Or am I missing one of the... Well, we're putting Maggie to work. Triangle Factory Fire.

Triangle Shirt Waste Factory Fire. One of the worst disasters in American history especially from labor. They blocked all the exits so no one could take smoke breaks and then a fire started or something. Everyone was trapped in and they died. But the point is the world has changed so much to where our biological needs

no longer fit like the available food supply, if that makes sense. Yeah, we were like cavemen. No, but like not even cavemen. We like used to have to walk places or... Oh, yeah. You would even have to walk to a store. We don't have to do that.

You used to have to go to an office. We don't have to do that anymore. We're now like... Well, we still come to the office every day. We still come to the office every day. Me and Josh are in the office Monday through Friday. But the point is, you eat what makes you feel good. You eat what you have around.

And sometimes, you know, you poo-poo at free donuts because all you want to eat is a very plain porridge because you think it'll stop you from doing certain things against God. I am going to be a plain porridge girly for the next four months to see what happens. We need to buy spurtles. What? Oh my God, she doesn't know what a spurtle is?

Is that the cool spoon? Yes. I know what a spurtle is. It's spurtle in time. All right, Nicole. We've heard what you and I have to say. And I heard you singing No Doubt earlier. But it's time for a segment we call

Opinions are Like Casserole. Are you a Gwen Stefani fan? I actually am a huge... I love Gwen Stefani. Okay, I listened to No Doubt's first album, though. It's not nearly as good. It was like their second or third that came out. It's when they were like ska punks.

Well, no, but they have a great sort of ska punk album. But I can't remember the name of it. But it's Spiderwebs is on it. Is it? I know what Spiderwebs is. I don't know. I'm just singing it. It's their first album?

That's not their first album, though. And I went back and listened to their first album from like 93 or something. Is it called Trapped in a Box? It might have been. Their first album is just self-titled. Trapped in a Box. That's how the song sounds. Sorry.

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I've really found some true talented individuals that are vivacious, lively, and encouraging to each other. I would like to call them friends because I feel like I am right with them in the kitchen.

Trevor, I know about VeggieTales too. I hum the songs all the time. Peace to all. CRK Blue, that was very sweet. Trevor, I know about VeggieTales too. I hum the songs all the time. Peace to all. CRK Blue. That was very sweet. That was heartfelt. That is a five-star review.

I'm going to give this four and a half stars. Where can they improve? I think this was about our YouTube channel and not so much about the podcast. Not a lot of podcast specificity. I'll drop it down to four and a half stars. No, no. I appreciate it.

I will always appreciate a five-star review, but there's nothing about the podcast. You're reviewing of podcast specificity. I'll drop it down to four and a half stars. No, no. I appreciate it. I will always appreciate a five star review, but there's nothing about the podcast. You're reviewing a podcast. Yeah, yeah. Well, no. I guess you're right. Yeah. Four and a half stars. I've watched three VeggieTales episodes, and I would like to watch more.

I like the tomato guy. That's Larry the Cable Guy plays the tomato. No, he doesn't. Yeah. No, he doesn't. Tomater. No, you're thinking about cars. No, he doesn't. To-may-ter. No, you're thinking about cars. I'm always thinking about cars.

I'm a big auto guy. No, you've never seen cars. But I can think about Veggie Daly. Have you ever seen Cars, the movie? I actually have, yeah. No, you haven't. I have. Who voices Lightning McQueen?

Owen Wilson. God, he's watching. God, I'm good. And the one song was written for, Life is a highway. Right? That was like Was that written for cars? Was that written for cars? Ask Rascal Flatts

Do you think we could get him? Let's listen to that first opinion Hi Josh and Nicole My name is Emma from Seattle, Washington And my food opinion Coffee there? My restaurant opinion And that is that Whatever menu item from Seattle, Washington. And my food opinion is a restaurant opinion.

And that is that whatever menu item is on little like placard at the cash register, not on the actual menu, but like a separate little stand at a mom and pop restaurant is the best thing they serve. I've been to a smoothie place that had a little one advertising their dumplings. Best dumplings I've ever had. It's

100% true, 100% of the time, and I think that should be common knowledge. Thanks. Smart. Okay, I don't know if I agree with this. What? A lot of the times, the things on the placards is just something that's going bad and they're just trying to supplement it and make it taste good and sell it to people.

I see your logic, but I vehemently disagree with it. That's funny because you have a very negative outlook on life. Sometimes I thought you would agree with me. No, normally I would, but I tend to have a positive outlook on eating food. You know what I mean? I'm always excited when I get to give somebody money and they get to give me food.

I think it changes my general psyche when I walk in there because I agree. You see something on placard, you walk in, you're deciding what to order and then the placard is just like, we got egg rolls. And you're like, oh shoot, they got egg rolls? And then you get the egg rolls. My brain is, I guess it's coming from like a chef standpoint.

Yeah, an economic realist. Yeah, like, oh, the cabbage is going bad, but cabbage never goes bad. The carrots are going limp. Let's do something with the carrots. But a placard restaurant wouldn't have carrots, right? How do you know that? You know what I mean?

Because I'm saying the placard phenomenon, you're at a counter-order spot, and you're up at the cash register. There's so many places that do counter-ordering that have fresh vegetables, Josh. What's wrong with you? No, but the carrots aren't a placard item. A placard item would be like dumplings, egg rolls, especially if there's a deal. You're not really helping me right now understanding. You're not being very helpful.

Okay, so my favorite placard item that I can think of is a spot called Bunmi Maito, right out in Alhambra. They got great bunmi, very cheap, very affordable. And you go up there and there's a placard that says pate show. Pate show is a type of, not like a meat pie. It's like puff pastry with like this delicious. Pate show? No, so it's like pate show, which show means hot. Oh, okay.

And so it's like hot pate. So it's like a forced meat. It's a Vietnamese sausage that's inside puff pastry and it steams in there. And it's, oh, it's my favorite meat pie in the world. And that's on a placard. And then it's in a case. And so you point at the placard, they go to the case,

they give you the best food of your life. I don't think I'm understanding what placard means. Like a plastic... That says available now. Yeah, it's like a special. It's like a special except a waiter's not reading it to you. In my mind, all specials are foods that are going bad and the chef is trying to sell it.

You know what I'm imagining? What? Because I've gotten a taste of Tehran too and they'll have a placard that's like, yo, we got trout or we got cuckoo sabzi or something. You love cuckoo sabzi? I love cuckoo sabzi. Are you craving cuckoo sabzi?

I really am. I want eggs right now. I'm going to learn how to make it for you. I'm also starving and I'm short of my protein goals by about 40 grams. And so give me about nine eggs and I'll solve that but I'm imagining they got the normal menu

someone's mom's in town and she's like let me make the cuckoo sabzi this happened when I went to or the sabzi for the Horesh is going bad and they have to find a way to do something with it. Don't ruin the sabzi for me, dude.

Josh, I'm giving you realistic. I'm not saying that's what they do. I'm saying there's a very high likelihood that's what's happening. I put a lot of trust in people who are feeding me. I don't trust anybody on anything else. But if you're feeding me, I am suddenly very trusting. What a simple man. Right? Very simple.

Simple, I love it. Nane Gloria, Filipino steam table spot, went there on like a Wednesday, and I was like, y'all got the kare-kare? And they were like, only Maria knows how to make kare-kare. And she don't come in until Saturday. And she won't tell us how to make it. That's awesome. I love that.

Give me some gin-a-tongue. I like that. I like that. Same. And then the placard gets broken out, you know, because Maria's in town. She's making the kare-kare. Okay. There's like a, okay. Yeah. I guess it's situational, huh? Situational placard gets broken out you know because maria is in town she's making the kare kare okay there's like uh okay yeah i guess it's uh i guess it's situational situational placards hey this is

maggie and molly food opinion for you i always put goldfish as croutons on my salad and my friends always think i'm crazy you're not crazy amazing And I also put croutons on it. But like when I say that I put goldfish on my salad, my friends are like, you're crazy. And I'm like, no, you should try it. It's really good. Yeah, it's just like cheesy and crunchy. And it's a great replacement.

Okay, have a great day. We love your podcast. Bye. That was awesome. Smart. It's croutons and goldfish on salads? If you would use two types of lettuce in your salad, right? You get like butter lettuce and then something like a spring mix or mescaline or something, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They add two different things. That's fine. I think that's okay. I'm into it. I don't like love it because of the little fishies swimming in a sea of lettuce. But whatever. I'm willing to look past it. Yeah, you need to get a land animal

shaped cheesy cracker. Yeah. We should make animal crackers but savory. Or at least an animal that can live on land like a dolphin. Oh my god, I've done that for GMM before. I've literally made animal meat crackers in the shapes of the animals. I remember that. I have been taking quest

chips because they taste like Doritos. I hate Quest chips. I love Quest chips because I don't love them. They're not the best chips, but they do have like 20 grams of protein per serving. So I'm making a salad. I can cut out like four ounces of chicken and add a crumble of crushed Quest chips. Bingo, bingo. Nicole's yawning because I bore her.

No, no. It's my caffeine. I haven't had caffeine. The coffee I made in the morning, it didn't really do much for me. Yeah, the coffee was weak. I just rammed some Folgers though. I rammed some Folgers earlier. Did you just say the coffee I made for you in a Chemex was weak? Not only was it weak, it was

tepid. I'm grateful for the coffee. I'm grateful for the weak, tepid coffee. It was a nice gesture. It was just weak and tepid. But if the water was too hot, it would burn the grounds. No, I... No, no give me oh my god you said it was good just let me mix boiling water with instant coffee and i'm happy caffeine is medicine protein is medicine the worst day ever i'm never making you coffee ever again i might make you cuckoo subsy though that'd be really great because i want your validation

i desire it tell people cuckoo subsy is i desire josh's validation just like tell a cuckoo sabzi, though. That'd be really great. Because I want your validation. I desire it. Should you tell people what cuckoo sabzi is? I desire Josh's validation. Tell people what cuckoo sabzi is. You tell them. You've explained this whole podcast. Sabzi means herbs. Yeah. Cuckoo means eggs.

Yeah. Herbs and eggs. You take a ton of different herbs. What kind of herbs you got going in there? Depends. Take a ton of fresh herbs. You chop the hell out of them. Mix them with eggs.

Spinach. Spinach. Yeah, you take some spinach, some greens to round it out. You chop the hell out of them. Mix them with eggs. Spinach. Spinach. Yeah, you take some spinach, some greens around it out. But it's just like this deeply. There's more herbs and spinach than eggs, but it's held together. And it's just a delightful flavor bomb. Feels very nutritious. Really good.

It's like tarragon and dill and green onions. Every mom's cuckoo sabzi is different. I want yours. They call it. Okay, I'll make it for you. It's not very it's not very good yet but i'm learning hi this is the north carolinian jello revolutionist my opinion is that we as a society need to return to jello salads and aspects

um given the current economical climate and everything going on, Jell-O is the perfect way you can make it sweet, savory, any sort of flavor you're looking for, you can turn it into a good Jell-O dish. You just have to get creative and be not afraid. And that's why I think it's really important that we try and make Jell-O popular again. Anyways, that's my opinion. Thank you for the great show and podcast.

Everybody's so nice. Yeah, everyone's a little wackadoodle too and I love that. The Jell-O, listen, you ever hear somebody who has like really fringe political beliefs and you're like... All the time.

All the time. And you're like, I like agree with some of those things in theory. I would just never say it out loud and also it would never work in practice. You know, one of those things? Yeah. You're like, there's a nugget of truth there,

but this is just a little too... We don't have time for it. Right? That's how I feel about the North Carolinian jello revolutionary here. Well, I'm an aspic ambassador, and I think that I am for this, for the greater cause of goodness.

But are you buying the economic argument here? What? That there's crappy economic? We're falling on tough times. Yeah. People need more gelatin in their diet. I don't know that they do.

Do they? Can we confirm this? Gelatin makes strong bones. How many doctors have signed a letter and snail mailed it back to you saying- Gelatin is good for

collagen and elastin are good for your skin. Damn. Wait, I hate how you're right in that there could actually be an economic angle to this, at least in terms of selling more Jell-O. I love Jell-O as much as anybody, probably more than a vast majority. We don't eat Jell-O anymore as a people. It's an atrocity.

I grew up, my mother used to make us Jell-O With pomegranate seeds Every Friday for Shabbat It's been 15 years since she's done it And I won't stand for it any longer As an aspic ambassador I will make it my duty Nay, my privilege and blood right To do it Nicole is going to be chief of the jello revolutionary guard

And she will be brutal I mean tried for her war crimes in The Hague. Try me. Hi, this is Alex. I want to know what is the best vegetables to put in a stir fry. And then the most normal question from Jell-O Revolutionary Guards to like...

Maggie, did you do what on purpose in that order it's just a person asking for vegetables but in a stir fry i'll tell you what i'll tell you what it's got why can't use canned vegetables what canned water chestnuts okay that's the only canned when you can bamboo shoot okay okay okay that's the only canned one you should use. Canned bamboo shoots. Okay, okay, that's the second one. What about- Canned baby corns. No. Okay. That's it, I have three.

All of them are white. Sure, and then you can add other things. I like frozen peas, I like frozen corn, and I like frozen carrots. Yeah, honestly, dude, stir fry, a good bag frozen mix. If I'm doing a stir fry at home, I'll tell you what I'm adding to it. It can get annoying if you have to cook vegetables separately, right? Like if you want to do – I don't do that.

I love stir fried eggplant, but you have to blanch it or roast it or something. It's such a process. And so it's a process. Don't do that. Broccoli. Love broccoli, and it'll cook in a pan as long as you chop it up fine enough. Sure. Carrots are the same thing.

You add a little splash of water to that pan while things are cooking. So I would go carrots, broccoli. I love bell pepper in a stir fry. I love onion in a stir fry. And also get some ginger and garlic in a squeeze tube and just go right in there. And it's going to make everything taste so good. Better than that, just get ginger garlic paste. Ginger garlic.

Yeah, you never know when they're separate. What else? Onion, garlic. I mean, canned bamboo shoots and water chestnuts are great. Yeah, I like the frozen veggies. I think it just makes life easy. Also, can I tell you, like you said, pre-made stir-fry mix, excellent. Snow peas, for fresh, like fresh vegetables.

I love snow peas. If I see snow peas at the market, I'm picking them up. Will I make them? I don't know, but I? I'm picking them up. Well, no, I'm not picking them up. Will I make them? I don't know. But I'm going to pick them up. Yeah. Because I never see them. Julia doesn't like green beans.

I love green beans. What the hell? I don't know, man. She doesn't like green beans. I'm pretty mad about it. Because I really, really love green beans. And I'm sick of having to change myself for this relationship. I love Harry Covert.

What? I love Harry Covert. Harry Covert? I love Harry Covert. Yeah, that's Harry Styles' brother, Harry Covert?vert. What? I love Harry Covert. Harry Covert? I love Harry Covert. Yeah, it's Harry Styles' brother, Harry Covert? No. What? If it was Harry Styles' brother, they would have the same last name.

No, it's like how in Chinese, like the borders flipped. What are you talking about? That's why Yao was on the back of Yao Ming's jersey because the surname in Chinese is in the front. Yeah. Wow. Which makes a lot more sense. Which makes a lot more sense. That makes a lot more sense. Isn't it true that in Iceland also,

like, you take your mom's last name or something? Or Greenland? Where's Bjork from? Bjork's definitely from Iceland. I'm just trying to, you know, relate to you. It's hard. Do you like Icelandic frontrunner in the canceled 2021 Eurovision,

Daddy Frere? No. Oh. Well, that's the podcast, folks. Thank you so much for tuning in. We got new episodes coming out on Wednesdays on audio platforms and Sundays on video platforms.

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to join Nicole's Jell-O Revolutionary Guard basic training for speed Jell-O wrestling. You know how people have like movements? Like this is our movement. Because you're like Jell-O. Like that's your like, when you say like a tan hut and like you would just sort of,

you just wiggle your body. But we go like this. Awkwardly wiggle your body. Just shoulders up and down, chest, chest undulating. Yeah. So if you're a big undulator or wiggler, the Jell-O Revolutionary Guard may be for you. Also, you will have to learn how to fire various assault rifles. That's not true.

That's not true. What, you're just going to go handheld? Are you using like submachines? Like what's going on? It's not true. What, you're just going to go handheld? Are you using, like, sub-machines? Like, what's going on? It's just about Jell-O, man. I've got to be so crazy about it.