All Fantasy Everything - Fashion Trends (w/ Alice Wetterlund)

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. uh alice are you recording uh yeah i i'm i've been recording for a while you're recording 17 hours recording as of now david's been recording all night baby i never stopped recording i also didn't i started this recording the same time as david but you guys didn't know i was recording you were just here i just was recording an empty embedded meditating. That's fun. He wants to say hi really badly. Oh, what's the kid's name? Birdie is like really
Starting point is 00:00:52 will not fucking rest until he's Hey, I got a birdie. Birdie like B-I-R-D like the bird outside or Bert. Birdie. Yeah, I got a birdie. B-I-E at the end. Is that named after Tupac's character in Above the Rim? Hello. My birdie's on the couch. They all know after Tupac's character in Above the Rim? Hello. Birdie's on the couch.
Starting point is 00:01:06 They all know you're beautiful. That's what I say, David. Laura named Birdie and Betty and I was like, well, that works out. I wanted to name Birdie Peaches and she never said that. Her name was Peaches for about eight minutes or something.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I don't know that I love that name for a cat. So we're calling her Peaches for about eight minutes and Laura's like, we're not going to name her Peaches. She shut it down. Is it because it's a lady name? I don't know. I just thought. Why don't you like Peaches, Ian?
Starting point is 00:01:39 It feels weirdly sexual to me. Yes. Okay, same. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I think of peaches. I think of an old lady. You do? Maybe I need to change my paradigm on this. But you're really attracted to old ladies.
Starting point is 00:01:54 So that's me. Yeah. Well, that's part of it too. I'm a milk hunter. These are not mutual needs. Peaches is too sexual. I would name my cat something more neutral, like juicy labia or whatever. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Labia majora. And labia minora. Labia majora? Those were all on the chalkboard. Labia minora sounds like two cats to me. Labia minora is a sacred Jewish tradition. I was going to say, it sounds
Starting point is 00:02:23 sexual experience, an awakening. Let's have this be the beginning of the podcast. is a sacred Jewish tradition. I was going to say, it sounds sexual, sexual experience, an awakening. Let's have this be the beginning of the podcast. I think so too, because it's already so good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Let's just come in. All right. You're sure. Across the street from my house, there's, there's this new breed of dog that I, I have fallen in love with. It's called brand new,
Starting point is 00:02:43 brand new. It's called six dogs. Is this, it's this one size of dog and there's six of them. And there's like always at least four on the balcony shouting. And there's, and I say, hello, good morning, six dogs. And how many of you are carrying this one dog. It is one dog. They're always like... It's like a distributed intelligence because they're all the same size. And they just... I can see that.
Starting point is 00:03:13 They work as one and they kind of... You can even see ideas spread throughout their little acorn brand. Do you think like when rents do, they just form a little dog Voltron and then go like pay the bills or whatever? I think they live there by themselves.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I've never seen anyone else. Yeah. Yeah. They get all into a trench coat. I know exactly what you're talking about because there is a version of that, a three dogs version of that on my street. And they're tough guys. You're tough guys. They're little.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But every time you walk by, they're like, and they do. One of them will look at the other and that one will start barking and then that dog will be like, oh, we're barking. All right. And then that dog will start barking at me. Where do you stand on this? A big dog, like a big dog. You go into someone's house. I did this the other night. You go into someone's house. There's a giant dog. Did you get invited or you broke in?
Starting point is 00:03:58 I broke in. It's neither here nor there. But you go in and the dog rushes you and then the person's like, don't worry, they're cool. And they don't really do anything. But the dog like runs, you know what I mean? And they run straight at your balls for some reason. It's straight. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And so I always put my hand over it. They're coming for the peaches is what you're saying. Yeah. They hear what I named the cats. I don't know. And the dude, he listens. It was a pleasure meeting the dog. But just in general, when that happens, I'm like, why don't you, you know, move toward me a little more?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Like, I don't know if the dog's cool. You know what I mean? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Maybe don't let the dog. So did it jump on you? No, we were on their porch. It was in the yard and everything.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And he's like, hey, the dog's going to come out. And the dog was huge. It was fine. But I have had situations where they don't say that. So it just got me thinking like, it does happen where a big ass dog will rush you and then people are like, ah, they're cool. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But they're like 30 feet away. In the situation you're describing, I'm cool with it. But in one where it's like at a park or whatever and just a dog comes over and you're like, ah, I tend not to like that. And the owner's got some, God, it just kills me when they're just, they're like, don't worry, bro. They, you know, and you're like,
Starting point is 00:05:08 they voted for Biden. Yeah, you're good. Don't worry. Yeah, you're fine with this. It's sort of like a patronizing situation. What's happening now you're good with? Never thought about it like that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Hey, you're cool. Don't worry about it. That's a Paul F. Tompkins joke. A really funny Paul F. about it like that. That's true. Hey, you're cool. Don't worry about it. That's a Paul F. Thompson joke. A really funny Paul F. Thompson. That's very funny. I think it's called Apologize for Your Dog on the track. And it's like, how about how people will be like, he's all right. And it's like, he's telling me he wants to murder me.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He's screaming. Every single signal. If a human being spoke to me the way this dog is speaking to me right now he would be like I am going to murder you screaming we're just for all the listeners we're super pro your dog
Starting point is 00:05:56 in every situation could you imagine us not liking your dog are you out of your mind I voted for him twice we love your dog I have a picture of the pope and your dog in my you out of your mind? We are so, I voted for him twice. Absolutely. We love him. We love your dog. I actually have a picture of him. I have a picture of the Pope and your dog in my kitchen and I'm Jewish. I have a locket with it. Yeah. You know, I don't vote. So exactly. Well, that's all right. Yeah. Because of the dog, because of the dog, because he can't run because he wasn't born in America. I vote for a different dog to cancel your dog vote out sometimes.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I won't get married. My boyfriend and I live together, and I won't get married until dogs can get married legally. That's so beautiful. I just think it's beautiful. Thank you. That's what my dad told my mom, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I know. My boyfriend's in the other room shouting like, I don't want to marry you. Yeah. You don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything. You know? So I like where you're coming from. Sean Jordan is here.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Sean Cougar Mel Jordan on Instagram. This is a weird way to start. I'm in. I like it. I like just being like. I don't understand how you don't always start this way. Mid-conversation. We do it with, we tend to start with a lot of pomp and circumstance.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I'll start just so people don't feel weird. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything. No, it hurts now. It's weird now. We're too in. We're too in. We just gotta be in. It's like doing a cannonball into a hot tub.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It's just the math's not right. Yeah. That can be alright though. Cannonball into a hot tub? Done it a couple times. How big of a hot tub you're talking about, dude? It's been a while. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Hotel. Not big. I mean, you landed on the bottom. Did it have water in it? Yeah. Yeah, it had a little water. Some hot water. Who's got that big hot tub?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Sorry to interrupt. Madison, Wisconsin's got that big hot tub. Oh, yeah. In the hotel that they put you in? Yeah, I'm excited. The hotel was just in Bend, and they had two hot tubs in the same area.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I love a huge hot tub. Make the hot tub pool-sized. Make the pool hot tub sized. Edgefield has a big hot tub river. If you go to the hotel in Edgefield, whatever, it's McMenamin's in Portland, but they have a little lazy river, but it's a hot tub. We are here to
Starting point is 00:08:06 talk about mostly McMenamin's properties. I was just in Colorado at some ski resort and they had a whole pool size hot tub. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They go crazy up there. They got one at Govey. Anyway, March. Govey. Government camp.
Starting point is 00:08:21 At the base of Mount Hood. Are you talking about Juvenile? Are you talking about Juvenile Hall? Yeah, right? It didn't sound like that. What are you saying? Government camp, they call it Govey. Who calls it Govey? I am born and raised in Portland, Oregon.
Starting point is 00:08:35 All the snowboarders, the people who go snowboarding on Mount Hood and stuff, they call it Govey. You made it sound like a prison work release. It really does sound like an internment situation. Where they send wayward young boys to learn to be men on the mountain. Yeah, no. The mountain will raise your child.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Don't mess with me. I came out of Govey. Yeah. In Denver, we call it the foot center, but same thing. You'll get stabbed with a pencil. We call it the boys ranch in South Dakota. McCrossin's boys ranch. Where's the girls ranch? I never heard of one, but the boys had one. dakota across his boys ranch that's what it was the girls ranch yeah i never heard of one but the boys had one coyote ugly baby
Starting point is 00:09:08 they didn't give the girls a ranch they gave the boys i go to coyote ugly sometimes yeah we were gonna go delicious kale salad it's right by it's right it's right by the movies that i go to so it's like i walk to the movies and then like afterwards, you're like, maybe I'll go in there. It's weird. Alice Wedelund, what's your take on Dave and Buster's? Honestly, ever since Dave got canceled. You would have thought it would have been Buster. Could you imagine?
Starting point is 00:09:37 I know. Buster was the one who canceled him. Yeah. I don't know. Dave was grooming Buster. Dave was grooming Buster. And Buster was like, you know, iconic. I don't know. Dave was grooming Buster. Dave was grooming Buster. And Buster was like, you know, iconic. He goes, busted.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So I honestly don't, I don't have any reference point for Dave and Buster's. You've never been to a Dave and Buster's? I've never been to a Dave and Buster's. That's like, it's sort of like adult Chuck E. Cheese. Is that? That's exactly what it is. Should we all pick up our laptops and go to individual Dave & Buster's right now?
Starting point is 00:10:07 I can't. What? Same one. If I had a high-powered rifle, I could hit a Dave & Buster's right now. What? Four thousand? Should we all go to four different Dave & Buster's?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Why would we not just meet at one? I love the idea of somebody working on their laptop at Dave & Buster's. The Wi-Fi is so good. Like there's kids doing Papa Jot and you're like, I'm writing my novel. I've got a Buster's Pass, so the coffee's free
Starting point is 00:10:29 and the Wi-Fi is great. I pay a monthly fee, but it's great. We were in Phoenix. Ian, I think it was you when I went over and the Papa Shot score was like 12 or something and you're like, I got 46 before this. I'm like, I can't see that. That was not me.
Starting point is 00:10:44 That was David. I'm like, I can't see that. That was not me. That was not me. That was David. I was like, I can just see the 12. I did get 46. Ice was with me. Or no, Ice was with me. Who else was with me? Harper.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Harper was with you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alice, the David Busters. No, because I'm nice on the popping shot. It is a bit of a grown-up Chuck E. Cheese, but it's got, I mean, I would recommend at least going once. Yeah. It's way doper than Chuck E. Cheese
Starting point is 00:11:05 because the games work. I mean, Chuck E. Cheese, they're all, they're all dusted. I mean, you know what I mean? Chuck E. Cheese's haven't been updated in decades. I see.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Dave and Buster's are like on point. New games, big games. On point. Big games. Dave and Buster's. They got like, they got like Galaga
Starting point is 00:11:21 the size of the wall. It all came about naturally, but I just want to take a moment to acknowledge that you said Dave and Buster's is on point. I know, it's really weird. Sean's always been like a cool, but now that he's been sponsored by Dave and Buster's, it's a little, now that he got that D&B sponsorship.
Starting point is 00:11:36 There will be some. I'm an unathletic jock. You're very athletic, man. You tore tendon in your ankle skateboarding. Ooh. Yeah, but- You tore into the splits. I used to be able to. I have You tore tendon in your ankle skateboarding. Ooh. You wouldn't do the splits. I used to be able to. I have a torn tendon in my foot.
Starting point is 00:11:49 So, yeah, that's why it's hurt for the last couple of years. My kink is torn tendons. Anyway, I got to say, March 21st, girl death. Kim Busters has really good torn tendons, too. My hour. Oh, yeah. My hour long. Three different sauces, and those all come with it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So you don't even have to pay extra for the sauces. I'm trying desperately to get your plug out. I'm really trying. Isaac, until it happens, just go ahead and put peaches over all this stuff. That Bieber song. March 21st. I will be at Revolution Hall. I had a feeling
Starting point is 00:12:18 it was going to be like this. Yeah. I did. March 21st. You just understand that this creates more pomp and circumstance around the special dropping, right? Exactly. When you finally get it out, it's going to be like, oh, here we go. What a release. We're basically edging your special right now.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I can feel it. On March 21st on Patreon, Girl Dad will come out. It's $10 on Patreon and the first week sales benefit me tremendously. So if somewhere in between March 21st and 28th, that helps me out tremendously. And there's also... I started the Patreon page. I'm releasing a behind-the-tracks podcast of my first album, breaking it down track by track.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I plan on expanding it as soon as it's special. But for right now, it's free. And if you go to my Patreon page, you just hit the Join for Free button, which wasn't there for a few days. It was a tiny little error. It's there now. Join for free. You will get any content I put out
Starting point is 00:13:13 up through a week after the special being out. So March 21st through the 28th, everything on there is going to be free. And it is very important. The sales to me the first week are extremely important. So take this free podcast and run with it just so you have some content to listen to, you know, so like you go there, you can listen to all that.
Starting point is 00:13:30 It's you and Bruce Springsteen hosting the Behind the Tracks podcast, right? Me and the boss. Yeah. Yeah, man. I got a lot of people on there. You know what was going through your head when you were talking about the vasectomy here? I can't.
Starting point is 00:13:40 No, this is the old album, dude. I'm listening to the old album and doing a podcast about it. The old, old one. Yeah, yeah. The first one from dude. I'm listening to the old album and doing a podcast about it. Oh, the old one. The old, old one. Yeah, yeah. The first one from 2019. What was on that one? Just kind of breaking it. It was me losing my virginity when I was 13, Zach.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And I talked about that for an hour. He's been on a few of the episodes. We got like two minutes into the track and then it was like, oh, this has been an hour. Wait, you've recorded? You haven't asked either of us to be on it? Or any of the three of us, by the way? Yeah. Four of us?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Because he's here. We just go do it. I would love it if you came on. I feel bad asking you us to be on it? Or any of the three of us, by the way? Yeah. Four of us? Because he's here. We just go do it. I would love it if you came on. I feel bad asking you guys to be on other stuff. I would love to do it. Are you kidding me? I don't want to do it now. Talk of shit.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I wanted to be on the virginity track. You know how much I love that story. Yeah. David does love that story. And you are really funny to me. There's so much of it. I could have you on and tell a whole nother. Because we probably covered 20 minutes of the actual night in the out. There's so much of it. I haven't told, I could have you on and tell a whole nother,
Starting point is 00:14:25 because I, we probably covered 20 minutes of the actual night in the out. Cause you just talking about not the act, you know what I mean? But I'm saying like, what the fuck is that? I'm not letting Alice do this alone. All right. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I put a beret on just for everyone. Yeah. Oh, Isaac, do me a solid, clean that up as best you can. Do not dude. Make it dirtier. Dirtier yeah. Isaac, do me a solid. Clean that up as best you can. Do not, dude. Make it dirtier.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Dirtier it up. Pour some olive juice in that bitch. Make it glitch out. Yeah. March 21st on Patreon. It's on all my socials
Starting point is 00:14:55 and everything. I'll be posting about it. We're making trailers. So there it is. That. And once again, the special is called Call Me Tater Salad.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. It comes out the day after Shane's comes out in about two years, December 24th, 2026, the day after Shane Torres releases the green-eyed Mexican. So, yes. Why'd you pause like that?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Why'd I what? Why'd you pause like that? You said the green-eyed Mexican. Because I was going to say, I was trying to think of a different acceptable nationality. He was trying to think of another word that he wanted to call. I was trying, I was going to think of a different acceptable nationality. He was trying to think of another word that he wanted to call. I was trying. I was going to be like, what can I say that is the equivalent?
Starting point is 00:15:30 And I couldn't think of any, so I said Mexican. And then I paused so it sounded like I didn't want to say Mexican. That's exactly how it sounded. It's not what's going on. It did feel like there was a meeting in your brain where you're like, Mexican's fine, right?
Starting point is 00:15:45 You can say Mexican, right? And they're apparently like, yeah, they're from Mexico. I'm still shook from Chocolate City yesterday. The clipboard guy's like, I don't know. I'm not sure. What's the context? What other options you got, Sean? Was yesterday when you said Chocolate City
Starting point is 00:16:00 and got uncomfortable? Yeah, that was yesterday. I was talking about Chocolate City and got uncomfortable? Yeah, that was yesterday. I was talking about Chocolate City. I didn't, I was just, I second guessed myself. I tapped the brakes for a second. I just had to send an email because I'm going to be in Chicago and like at the Lincoln Lodge in, I don't know, July. It's not time for your plugs yet.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Are you backdooring a plug right now? I'm backdooring a plug. I thought that was pretty good. That was great. That was very smooth. I'm wearing a beret now. No, because this is what happened. They sent me in a variety of dates
Starting point is 00:16:35 to do this one night, possibly two night. And I was like, it's four dates in July. I don't have anything going on. So I'm like, I guess this one, I just picked one at random. And then my agent got back to me like, sorry, that's booked.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm like, what? Like what? Why is it whack-a-mole? So I was just like, can you just pick a day right now so I can promote it by the end of this podcast I'm on? Just pick one. We just slide it in whenever.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I did the same thing to you, by the way. I was like, hey, you want to come on the show? And then you said yes, and I was like, oh, we booked it. You did. You did the exact same thing. But I understood that that was a fun bit between good friends that speak frequently. Yeah, I was lying.
Starting point is 00:17:17 We're in cahoots with your agent. I'm actually at cahoots. It's fun to be in cahoots. I'm represented by cahoots. Oh, you're at cahoots? You're at cahoots in Swartz-Perlstein? I at Cahoots It's fun to be in Cahoots I'm represented by Cahoots Oh you're at Cahoots You're at Cahoots I got Cahoots at the hotel I stayed at in Bend Cahoots is my chocolate city
Starting point is 00:17:32 I don't know if I'm supposed to say No we're not supposed to say Cahoots for sure What? What does it mean? Really? Cahoots is a suburb Does it mean I'm supposed to say that
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's still getting recorded Even if you whisper Isaac turn that part up Where David was whispering Turn that up You can't I was supposed to say that It's still getting recorded Even if you whisper Okay that's fine That can't be true Turn that part up Where David was whispering Turn that up So it sounds like
Starting point is 00:17:50 He was screaming Make it AI So that it sounds like He shouted it Shouted it like Tom Hanks Yeah David Moore is here
Starting point is 00:17:59 Cool Do you have any other Dates you would like to promote This comes out this Thursday Is that what you're telling me You told me a year From this right A week A week from? This comes out this Thursday? Is that what you're telling me? You're telling me a year from today? A week from today this comes out. No, no.
Starting point is 00:18:09 March 23rd, I'll be at Rev Hall with my good buddy. That's mad, dude. That's rad. Also, we'll be in Boise. Oh yeah, Boise, March 21st. We're going to be in Boise all day doing a lot of all-fans and everything. The Boise back in town. Back in Boise. Idaho. The boys are coming to Boise. The boys are back in town.
Starting point is 00:18:25 The boys are back in Boise. Town. Fuck. March 21st at the Egyptian Theater as part of Comedy Fort. Oh, shit. An extension of the Tree Fort Arts and Music Festival
Starting point is 00:18:35 in Boise, Idaho. Hold on. We're actually part of Pod Fort Dipshit. I'll go fuck myself. It hurts getting called a dipshit when you're wearing a beret because it is partially true. Yeah, that's true. It's at least a little bit true when you're wearing a beret because it is partially true
Starting point is 00:18:46 it's at least a little bit true if you're wearing a beret especially when I got a juice shirt on I got juice now it's for Mott's apple just for all the listeners I got an apple juice shirt on it's not OJ Simpson no it's not he's wearing OJ Simpson pants
Starting point is 00:19:02 where is OJ Juicers Sean's got a juicer shirt sick Sean he's wearing OJ's big shirt OJ juicers Sean's got a juicer shirt sick Sean you can play baseball and football David Borey is here coolguyjokes87 on Instagram I don't have any dates
Starting point is 00:19:15 nothing to promote Royal Crackers watch Royal Crackers on Max yeah don't worry about me oh in a good way Max. Yeah. Don't worry about me. In a good way. He's walking away bashfully from the microphone.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He's walking away bashfully. Where can people find you in Southeast Asia? Whoa. I was gone. I wonder if he knew that was going to shut it off. He really is gone. Did he close his laptop? Is that what happened? I think so.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I think he closed it. He's a funny dude. He's been funny this whole time. He's been funny this whole time and he remains funny. It kicked me all the way out for the bit. I thought it was going to be 100% what it was.
Starting point is 00:20:01 It probably stopped the recording. It stopped the recording. Your. It stopped the recording. Your seven-hour-long recording has finally ended. Yeah, it did stop the recording. You shut your computer yesterday and it kept recording. Huh? Right?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah, that's... No, I didn't turn... I didn't shut it yesterday. I just logged off the shit. Isn't it annoying that we have to press record when the government's always listening? Does the government just send files? Please us out give us something what are my tax dollars doing exactly the government please put captions on and release it at whatever optimal times are for the algorithm could the government pick the best
Starting point is 00:20:40 crowd work bit that i did and send it automatically to social platforms. That would be sick for us. In theory, in theory, I pay taxes on all this money. So, you know, let's put that, let's put that money to work and just release all this for us.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Omit the, in theory, pardon, just, yeah, I also pay taxes for all the money I make. Yeah, we all do.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And that is established and factual. You can look it up. Jason government's listening to this. I met him at GovCamp, whatever it's called. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp.
Starting point is 00:21:14 GovCamp, bro. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp.
Starting point is 00:21:16 GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. GovCamp. You were fucking hitting the nar, bro. I was fucking, it was such a paladin.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. You know, there's a place called ZigZag up there too. I do. ZigZag and GovCamp, dude. I do. ZigZag and Govie, dude. I do. I do. Alice Wetterland is here.
Starting point is 00:21:33 At Alice Wetterland on X, on Twitter, on Mastodon, on Instagram as well. Threads and Instagram and TikTok. Threads and Sepultura. Early adopter here was able to get the first Alice Wetterland, although it's such a common name these days. I know six Alice Wetterlins. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Everybody names their kids that. This is Alice Wetterlin month on AFE where each week we're doing a different Alice Wetterlin. All those dogs are named Alice Wetterlin. Stand-up comedian, actor extraordinaire, resident alien, getting like Netflix,
Starting point is 00:22:04 loving it. Loving it right now. Top 10 show. Dreaming like crazy. And I found out that it's actually like top 10 in like seven countries right now. Which seven? And what are their politics? I will find out for you, actually, if you need to be a real nitpicker over here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:19 You didn't find out for yourself. I would have known. I don't give a shit. I would have found out in a heartbeat. I'd have flight spots to all those countries by now. It says, we're talking Austria, Belgium. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:32 We're talking Denmark, Estonia, we're only eight. Finland. Actually, we kind of have to wrap this up if you're only eight in Estonia. They're fucking Luddites. We're number two in Germany,
Starting point is 00:22:49 and that's what matters. Switzerland, number four. Germany loves number two, from what I hear. It's true. And they can't get enough. Ah, the poop stuff. Who said mine shites?
Starting point is 00:23:01 I wasn't ready for that to get me. It's a poop joke, sorry. They haven't picked us up yet for a second for a season which is really funny because like they usually pick us up in the first couple episodes air when they are going to and this time they haven't and like but now we're top 10 they're like oh we're gonna wait
Starting point is 00:23:19 and see yeah okay well we've never done this well yeah we didn't know do we it seems like we know you got them over a barrel now I feel like Yeah. Okay, well, we've never done this well. Yeah, we didn't know. Do we not know? It seems like we know. You got them over a barrel now, I feel like. It's how it always works. Give them a number two.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, give them a number two. Yeah, we'll just go to Germany. Let's get those Estonian numbers up and see what that does. We're going to see what Belgium says in the next couple. Okay. As a man wearing a beret, I can tell you that Belgium says yes. Belgium says yes. Belgium says yes. Did you have that for this or was that just near you anyways?
Starting point is 00:23:51 You've had that for a while. You've known me for long enough to know that I'm never more than five feet from a beret. If I'm in my home. Yeah. If I'm in my home. Under the couch. Yeah, it's like emergency berets. Like they're taped under desks and stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah. Behind the toilet. you got a trap door you just like bonk a cabinet and the beret pops out yeah if i twist my lamp one way turns on if i turn it the other way beret falls out of the ceiling i've seen you forget your keys and then you just grab your beret and just like shove it in the lock yeah and it works yeah it works what would you Alice, what would you like to point people towards? So, what? I don't want to plug anything that's not why I'm here. Come on. Okay, I guess if I had to, I have a, go to my website and I have things that are linked there. But mainly, I'm doing this show, Resident Alien.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I love it. And it's four more episodes going up. And then mainly, I'm doing this show, Resident Alien. I love it. And it's four more episodes going up. And then also, I'm streaming. I'm streaming on the Twitch. And I stream there twice a week.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And I've, I gotta say, guys, I love it. Joe Biden here. What do you love? I love it. Joe Biden. First of all,
Starting point is 00:25:00 what's your website? What? My website, alicewetterland.com. Also got that one early. In early adopter. Like swimwear. Yeah. Second of all, what's your website? What? My website, alicewetterlin.com. Also got that one early. In early adopter. Yeah. Second of all, what is streaming?
Starting point is 00:25:11 Obsessed. So you can play games or you can just sit there and talk. And like, I thought, I started doing it during the pandy and I was like, okay, this is what I'll do stand-up comedy on Twitch or whatever. And I dabbled. And then I started doing it really like regularly about six months ago. And I was like, this is going to be whatever. It's just going to be like people who are like gamer bros being like, get good, get good noob.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And then it was the best. Like it was like the greatest sweetest people I've had people come to my stream and make friends with each other we're like we're gonna learn word working together like so they're all not dweebs like that but it's really great
Starting point is 00:25:57 one of them sent me a sweater that she thrifted I have it I'll pull it up later and it's just the greatest, like people on Twitch say things like, we got the greatest community ever. And I'm like, that's so cheesy and corny.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And then like three months in, I was like, I love this community. Like I dig it. Nothing wrong with that. Do you play games on there? Yeah. Right now I'm playing,
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm still playing Zelda tears of the kingdom, even though everybody else has moved on to other games. I'm just playing it as slowly of the Kingdom even though everybody else has moved on to other games I'm just playing it as slowly as hell and then I'm probably going to play Stardew Valley after that but Chongo Chongo dude
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm like I'm just doing like I'm trying to do other things besides gaming I'm trying to do like little talk show shit and stuff like that I just love it like it's really it's really my bag. So I stream and I also have a podcast. You can go to mostlyfans.net and subscribe to Treks in the City, which is my other podcast. Is that about Czechoslovakians or cereal or money or?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I've never heard of Mostly Fans. And balances. Mostlyfans.net. That's kind of my podcasting hub. I'm trying to make it my Twitch hub too because I came with MostlyFans and then I go to stand-up shows and I'm like so just say MostlyFans.net
Starting point is 00:27:12 and they're like great sounds good she's on OnlyFans I guess a lot of stand-up comedians are on OnlyFans now yeah you gotta they keep cutting that check we gotta get something going how are we supposed
Starting point is 00:27:26 to live? Hand and mouth over here. Go to all those places. Anyway, go to all those places. Watch Alice Twitch. Watch Alice Twitch. There's certain ways to say it. That work better than others. All of you men, watch Alice Twitch.
Starting point is 00:27:44 My name is Ian Carmel at Ian Carmel across platform, Twitter, Instagram, Tik TOK, YouTube, all of those places. Uh, you can,
Starting point is 00:27:52 Oh, so several things, my book, t-shirt swim club. Uh, you can preorder it now. It comes out June 11th. You can preorder audio book,
Starting point is 00:28:01 physical copy. We got a starred review from Kirkus, which I'm being told is incredibly rare and a big honor. So that's awesome. So people like the book. Roxanne Gay read the book and loved it. If that means anything to you.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It does. Does she like it more or less than Fast and the Furious? She liked it less. Far, far less than Fast and the Furious. That's a high bar. That's a high bar. She gave it four stars out of five. And I think she gave Fast and the Furious. That's a high bar. She gave it four stars out of five, and I think she gave Fast and the Furious ten stars out of
Starting point is 00:28:28 five. She loves Fast and the Furious. Fast and the Furious gets Coronas in a bucket, so like, you know, six Coronas out of ten in a bucket. Yeah. Shea Serrano read it and loved it. Like, we got, you know, these are the people we got blurbs from. Seth Meyers, all these people. One of the leading researchers
Starting point is 00:28:43 into body neutrality and youth. My sister would be better at this part. Fat kid science. Also, Dom Toretto loved it. Dom Toretto also, it's the only book he's ever read, That and The Art of War. Those are the two books on his shelf. A bunch of empty Coronas. He reads Popular Mechanics, I bet. That's not a book, my friend. That's his shelf. A bunch of empty Coronas. He reads Popular Mechanics.
Starting point is 00:29:05 That's not a book, my friend. That's a magazine. It's a book to him. You know that's not about car mechanics, right? No. What? Popular Mechanics? I thought it was like auto trader or something. I thought it was about mechanics that were just unbelievably popular. I'm sure you're
Starting point is 00:29:21 right. I thought it was about cars. Mechanic of the month. Craig. Yeah. And they just had a lot of friends. That is what it is. He's a really good listener.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's like, I'm Craig. I'm a popular mechanic. And everybody walks, he walks into a bar and it was like, Craig's area. They go nuts. He's not even really good.
Starting point is 00:29:42 He's not that good at repairing cars either. He's not that good. He always either. He's not that good. He always forgets. He's like righty tighty. And we're like, yes, Craig, righty tighty. But he's just a good tight guy. And lefty tighter? Left, no.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Does that make sense, Craig? And he's like, I'm new to it. That's why he's popular. It's funny. Yeah, popular mechanics is like, this is how jets work and shit like that. It's funny how people who read Popular Mechanics are never popular. No, they tend not to. Well, I mean
Starting point is 00:30:08 along their circles of engineers. Oh, I guess that's true. Hey, cut that out. Isaac magnified it. I don't want to alienate any kind of audience. Yeah, we have a lot of engineers who listen. Yeah, we're a big engineering podcast. Rude boy, maybe. That's about
Starting point is 00:30:24 it. Three people who topped out at pre-algebra. On subscribe. Actually, I don't know how. Sean and David, I actually don't know how. Were you guys good at math? God, no. I made it up through algebra too.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You did? Next would have been trigonometry, I think. I never got to trig. I think I did algebra 1 I don't know I did make it beyond pre-algebra but I struggled Laura made it through all of them that you can get like calculus and trig
Starting point is 00:30:54 and all that stuff by the time she got to the senior year of high school they had run out of math for her to do that's the opposite I had to start back I'm like you know what i think let's go back to the foundations and visit because i think no i didn't take geometry and everybody in there was like aren't you 18 yeah you're just smoking cigarettes outside like
Starting point is 00:31:19 i can't hear you out here when i went to college shapes man i had to take algebra i had to take algebra 101 because i didn't or no algebra 01 because i didn't qualify enough to get a college credit level course on my act's so i had to take an intro to algebra and it was i got in there in college and it was like a plus two equals three it was that kind of shit i was like man you guys you really because i i understood that but it's like this is where I'm at. I still maintain that the concept of algebra is the most difficult thing I've ever learned in my life. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Like when they threw letters in, I was like, I, you ever get into that? What are you doing here? Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck is this? I smoke weed. Yeah. I'm a popular mechanic.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Give me one or the other. Pre-order my book, T-Shirt Swim Club. It helps a ton. If you pre-order it, it helps tremendously. And if you're able to do that, I really appreciate it. I'm so excited about your book, Ian. Let me just say that. Thank you very much. I'm excited about it. I hope the publisher makes their money back
Starting point is 00:32:22 and I get to write more books. I would really love that. It sounds like you are good at writing books, according to all the blurbs. Me and my little sister out there writing books. Oh, that's the other thing. I wrote about it from a comedic perspective. She's a clinical psychologist and comes in after every essay and writes about it from that perspective. I am at the punchline in San Francisco right now.
Starting point is 00:32:44 As you're listening to this, I did a show last night. I have one tonight. Please come out to my shows at the Punchline in San Francisco. As of two weeks ago, I was selling terribly and got an email. Love that email. Love that email. Where I'm like, I'm doing what I can. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's raining. It's raining. What am I supposed to dude. It's raining. It's raining. What am I supposed to do? It's raining. Also, people will come. I liked when, I don't know why there's not shock jock radio in the mornings at every club anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:14 That's my favorite thing to do. We fucking did in Phoenix. We just did in Phoenix. I love that thing. You get up your foot and go. It was. You're so tired. I didn't believe that we could say
Starting point is 00:33:25 almost all the stuff we said everything they said I was like we're on the radio like real radio right like there's people in the car
Starting point is 00:33:32 I mean they were it was we were swearing instead am I crazy we were we're not swearing we didn't swear
Starting point is 00:33:39 we were just talking about sex we weren't saying any of the words you can't say graphic stuff it was fine until the end. It was fine until it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:33:48 M. Night Shyamalan directed this radio hit because right at the end, the twist was one of the most shock jock radio twists of all time. I almost don't even want to repeat it because it felt so mean. It sucked. It sucked. But like up until
Starting point is 00:34:04 that, I was like, oh, this is actually kind of fun. And these guys seem all right. You know? And then like. It was punching down. What he said. He said, I'm not going to buy your special on Patreon March 21st. And we're like, I was mean of you, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:14 My plugs, bro. I was just shoehorning it in because I didn't get it. I don't think I got a solid sentence. I was just trying to get it. Absolutely you did. Absolutely you did. Nobody buy that special. Which comes out March 21st on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Help Sean out. Get it there. It's only $10. Make sure you pick it up. It's called Girl Dad. I was at both the tapings and it was phenomenal. Some of the best stand-up comedy
Starting point is 00:34:34 I've seen in my entire life. I loved it and I'd seen all those jokes several times already. I laughed earnestly and I don't do that a whole lot. And you can too at home. Is it weird that I feel bad now?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Because you just did all that during yours. That's why I did it. To make you feel bad. You think I did that out of the friendship? No, maybe. I had like a radio, like, sound I was going to do during, I can't find it though,
Starting point is 00:35:00 because I was going to be like, stillbirth. I don't know what things could be really graphic. Feel free to drop it at any point during the podcast. I can't find it though. Cause I was going to be like, stillbirth. I don't know what things would be really graphic. Feel free to drop it at any point during the podcast. I can't find it. All I have is, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm at the punchline and tickets are hot. Can you hear me? Sorry. What was that? Was that a British man? British guy? Steven, this is Clem Fandango.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Can you hear me? You have a servant? It's his butler. Do you have a British robot that serves you? Is that a resident alien soundboard or something? Love all the attention, fellas. Thank you for that. Nikki Haley.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Come on, man. Joe Biden. Is this a Twitch thing where you just have like a soundboard? Yeah, kind of. Whenever I feel like I need to have something. And every once in a while, you always got to pull out this. There is nothing more celebratory
Starting point is 00:35:53 than that sound. I like that a lot. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, anyways. I wonder how Isaac feels about it. It is a hot ticket at Punchline. They're going fast. There might be a couple left. I don't know. If you live in San Francisco and you're not at the Punchline every weekend, you need to
Starting point is 00:36:09 re-examine. You know, unpopular mechanics, they don't go to the Punchline. The popular ones... They go to Cobb's. The popular ones go to the Punchline. They queue up early. And they do say queue up because they're all British.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's a good time. Punchline's one of my favorite clubs. I love it so much. It's so fun. I know I'm already having a good time. I'm indifferent. The audiences are smart. If you go and you're not smart, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:36:37 The rest of the audience will understand the joke for you. Yeah. Most of the time. That's exactly right. Come out to the shows if you're anywhere in the Bay Area. Next weekend. Boy, we're 45 minutes into this. Yeah. Oh of the time. That's exactly right. Come out to the shows if you're anywhere in the Bay Area. Next weekend. Boy, we're 45 minutes into this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Oh, 36. Let's end it. Let's wrap it up, actually. To March 23rd, I am recording my special to me at Revolution Hall in Portland, Oregon. The first show sold out. Tickets available for the second one.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I know it's late. I know it's late. But come out and have a beautiful late time. It's just me and Sean. It's a Saturday. It's a Saturday, baby. Come out, and we're going to be celebrating afterwards. You want to see me cry. If that's any kind of a selling point, you'll see it. Guaranteed. There will be
Starting point is 00:37:16 exclusive Trollblazer merch made just for the show. There's going to be some fun surprises. It's going to be a blast. Ian calls me ugly in the green room so much to get me to cry a lot of times. He's just to, it's going to be a blast. Ian calls me ugly in the green room so much. So to get me to cry a lot of times, he's just like, you're ugly. You're funny,
Starting point is 00:37:28 but you're ugly. And I'm like, well, I like one of those things. And then I go out and I cry, but I'm funny. So it'll be a really good show. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I don't think, I don't think you're ugly. If you told me, I was funny. As long as you said I was funny, any other insult that went, Oh, you have no moral compass,
Starting point is 00:37:43 but you're funny. I'd be like, okay, that's cool. As long as you put it in there. All right. Then the, yeah, you have no moral compass, but you're funny. I'd be like, okay, that's cool. As long as you put it in there. All right. Then the, yeah, let's go to lunch.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I guess I think I would actually like that more. Cause I would know they were being sincere. Cause it's like, Oh, you said something very cutting, but also you said I was funny. So you mean it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Big whore. You're funny. Yeah. Big, funny whore. Big whore. But you make me laugh. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Big whore. What else? Uh,. Come on now. Big whore. What else? Oh, and then, God, I'm really stumbling through this. I have other dates as well. I'm going to be at the Moontower Comedy Festival. Ooh. April 17th through the 20th, back in Austin, Texas. Why am I not doing that? Alice is going to be there too.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I'm going to yell at my agents at Cahoots. Scream at them. And then I'm going to be in Burlington, Vermont, May 2nd through the 4th. I'm very excited about that. Going to Burlington. I've never been before. I'm very excited.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Somebody's coming down from Ottawa, they told me. And you ought to come too. There it is. Ottawa to be it. That's what kind of manly folks. And then this hasn't been confirmed yet, but I feel fairly safe saying it because the offer came through yesterday.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I will be at Comedy on State in Madison, Wisconsin, May 9th through the 11th. So come see that as well. Are you doing any shitty clubs? This sounds like a dream tour to me. No, I am at a very privileged place right now where I'm only
Starting point is 00:39:07 doing the most fun clubs. Come on, you gotta do some bad stuff. I did the bad one. I did that. I don't want to say the names of the bad ones. That's why it's fun to make them up. You guys know I did the bad ones. The humorous club.
Starting point is 00:39:23 The chuckle fucks in Edmonton, Ohio know I did the bad one. The humorous club. The chuckle fucks in Edmonton, Ohio. I did the bad guys in the movie The Lion King club in you know, outside of Dallas recently. So I'm putting the time in. I didn't get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I still had a great, great time at that show by the way, so I'm not even convinced. Isaac just got back, probably assuming we were halfway into this draft. We haven't even started yet. No, no. Yeah. I heard you guys yell out big whore. Big whore.
Starting point is 00:39:54 We were trying to get you back here. So we're like, Isaac, we got a big whore on you. Yeah, there's a real whore. Somebody's showing their nipples. We got a big whore. This comes out next week? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wonder if we can announce these dates yet
Starting point is 00:40:08 we can't do you think we should? for the FETO? I'm not confirmed? I'm not sure I'm gonna go get some coffee you can say them
Starting point is 00:40:21 and if they are not confirmed by next Wednesday. They're confirmed. Hold on. Let me look them up. There is some stuff you'll have to cut out already. So if you've been gone the whole time, there's a few things. I messaged you about it, Zeke. We've been writing stuff down.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah. Okay, so here is what we have confirmed so far with a caveat. We're sorry to the American Southeast. We're planning on coming and the American West Coast. We are planning on coming, hopefully at the end of the summer. But this is what we're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:41:00 In June, we're hitting the road. We are going to be at the Bell House in New York City, June 11th and June 13th. Now there's a day in between. That's fine. Ain't nobody going to care. Apparently that show's not 100% confirmed yet, but we're going to be somewhere in Philadelphia. Yeah, June 12th.
Starting point is 00:41:18 June 12th, we're going to be somewhere in Philadelphia. We will be at the Black Cat in Washington, D.C. on June 14th. Going back to the Black Cat. Yeah..C. on June 14th going back to the Black Cat the site of my most embarrassing story ever gonna have another night in Chocolate City now I just say it
Starting point is 00:41:33 Isaac turned that down a little bit and then we are working on June 15th another show hopefully hopefully for God's sake we we will be in Toronto, Canada. T-Dot. T-Dot. We're working on nailing down the venue.
Starting point is 00:41:52 You saw me tweet about it the other day. We're trying to come there. And then the following week, we'll be at the Roxy at Mahal's in Cleveland, Ohio. That's on June. What did I just say? 19th. And then the Magic Bag in Ferndale, Michigan, right outside
Starting point is 00:42:08 of Detroit, we're returning to that venue on June 20th. Then we will be at the King of Clubs in Columbus, Ohio June 21st. And the Parkway Theater in Minneapolis, Minnesota, June 22nd. And we also have a Chicago date
Starting point is 00:42:23 dropping somewhere in there. And Boston, if I'm not mistaken. And a Boston date. Which I thought was confirmed. Details to come. Details to come. But we're coming to all those places. We're doing a lot of shows. There might even be some Pittsburgh movement in there.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Everybody's going to Pittsburgh all the time. I went twice last year. I've never been. You haven't been to Pittsburgh? I've never been to Pittsburgh all the time I went twice last year I've never been I've never been to Pittsburgh the only time I go there and I have lunch with Bill Tower at the airport and then I leave that's true I do know that for a fact
Starting point is 00:42:54 I don't really get to go in town at all Lynn Swan shows up sometimes stay tuned for further details on that how to order tickets and then also for further announcements about us coming to perhaps Texas and Georgia. Further.
Starting point is 00:43:10 In the West Coast later in the summer. All right, enough. Enough. We're out of time. We're out of time. We got to wrap it up. We are here not to just announce dates and do promotions and discuss,
Starting point is 00:43:20 you know, various big whores, but also to fantasy draft fashion trends. Fashion trends. This is Alice's idea. I mean, I had a lot of ideas, and you picked fashion trends. Let's be clear. I didn't just say bows and barrettes.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I said other things, too. There were. So we know. Well, the one I was kind of disappointed you didn't pick was can I say it? Yes please. Is it special Doomsday draft team which Netbo babies would you choose to write at the apocalypse? Yeah it's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You know because I love Doomsday draft team like I love doing that with any group of people and I was thinking Netbo babies because you don't know who's going to be useful. Which ones are actually like... Wyatt Russell. You think Wyatt Russell?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Uh-huh. He's an athlete. He's hilarious. That's a really good one. He'd be fun to hang out with. Of course. That makes total sense. I was thinking that guy
Starting point is 00:44:15 from The Bear. Oh, that John... What's his name? Jeremy Allen White. Is he a Netbo baby? Yeah. He's Willy Wonka's... Tons.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Something. He looks like the guy who played Willy Wonka's tons something he looks like the guy who played he looks like Gene Wilder we can't just say because he looks like Gene Wilder
Starting point is 00:44:31 he is Gene Wilder's descendant I would take Clay Thompson genius anyway we're doing the other one
Starting point is 00:44:40 that I suggested because I'm at the punchline this weekend you can see me in San Francisco shout out to Steph Curry as well while we're at it. Andrew Wiggins. Well, there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:48 sports nepo babies. I'm glad that I didn't pick that one actually because now I'm just realizing, yeah, you just choose athletes. What we are drafting is fashion trends. Oh, yeah, it's a good one too.
Starting point is 00:44:59 The way we determine the order of this draft is through a rollicking game of rock, paper, scissors. Play between the three of you and we throw on shoot. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors. Play between the three of you and we throw on shoot. Here we go. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, am I supposed to do one? Alice has decided not to run. I didn't realize what. Okay, so you did paper. David, Sean's got scissors. And now I'm going to choose mine. I think I'll go with. Oh, this is how.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Wow. Interesting. I'm going to go with paper as well. See, I could have chosen rock, but I... Sean wins. Weird. I don't know how that happened. Sean, as the winner of Rock, Paper, Scissors, perhaps our most contentious
Starting point is 00:45:36 game ever, it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft. Before you do that, I will remind you it is a serpentine draft. And what is... Yes. Correct. That's a great question. What's happening? I think the sound may have cut out. draft before you do that i will remind you it is a serpentine draft and what is uh yes oh correct that's a great question what's happening it's when i i think david i think the sound may have cut out but it is when i i just mao corn on the cob i mao it like a typewriter i go left to right and then i just turn it a little bit and then i mao right to left yeah chairman then i turn a little bit and
Starting point is 00:46:00 then i mao left to right so just back and forth and I go nuts on that corn on the cob until they kick me out of the fair. And then I'm like, I paid five bucks to get into this fair. I'm staying. And it's a whole thing. It's March 21st. It's on Patreon. It's only $10 and you're going to have at least $60 worth of laughs and I guarantee
Starting point is 00:46:20 that personally. I guarantee that personally. It's going to get me through the red eye tonight, baby. Sean now sean with that in mind what will the order of today's draft be i want to go first all right okay i want to talk about me yeah i just think i have some pretty pedestrian picks uh because i'm not a big fashionista so alliteration uh yeah alice second david third ian fourth hot corner but spelled h-a-u-t-e h-a-u-t-e now that's what's up with that my number two joke i'm fucking on fire right now as far as things as far as like jokes where people say ah but don't necessarily laugh yeah yeah think about it later and be like i like that guy yeah he's all right i'm gonna go uh perform isaac
Starting point is 00:47:03 telling us that jeremy allen white is not related to Gene Wilder. That's because you looked on Google and not the Darknet. Exactly. That's why I didn't participate in the rock paper scissors. I got distracted by that. Have I been fooled by the internet once again? You need to look on the dark web. Sir Buzz Killington coming
Starting point is 00:47:19 through with the harsh fact. She's like, man, I just woke up. Here's the harsh fact. I don't like I just woke up. Here's the harsh fact. I don't like it. I'm going back to bed. I have no filter right now. Now he's coming through with the harsh truth and then we're going to come through with the first pick right after this
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Starting point is 00:52:34 That's policygenius.com. And we're back. Welcome back to All Fantasy Everything. Come see us in Boise. Come to Boise. I wish I could. Yeah, maybe I'll wear one of my picks. I got an idea. Come see us in Boise come to Boise I wish I could maybe I'll wear one of my picks come see us in Boise I want this to change
Starting point is 00:52:51 I pick this because I wanted I want my dude friends to be not intimidated by fashion I want it to be a fun arena fashion is intimidated by me ooh okay okay I see you come through want it to be a fun arena. Fashion is intimidated by me. Ooh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I see you come through. Yeah. And the size and for a long time, the size of my body. Yeah. I, that's another reason I picked this. Cause I love to talk about size, inclusivity and fashion. Yeah. We will get in.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Like I have a, I have deep issues with, I think that I'm very ugly. And so like I. So stupid. Very is the wrong word. Very is the wrong word. And stupid is the wrong word and I'm sorry for saying that. It's so silly because you are so gorgeous. Thank you. But with fashion, so it's like I didn't
Starting point is 00:53:33 I never made a lot of moves. So when I did That's not true. So we'll get into it. We'll get into it. Can I pick the first pick? We know you. And tell me if I can do this, but I'm picking TLC
Starting point is 00:53:49 cross colors. You know what I mean? Cross colors the way that TLC did. Yes, that's the way that TLC did cross colors because that video that was like the first time where I was like, I want to dress exactly like everyone in the video. All of TLC, all the dudes, where I was like, I want to dress exactly like everyone in the video. All of TLC, all
Starting point is 00:54:06 the dudes, because it was roughly the same. It was really androgynous. Covered in condoms. Covered in jimmies. All colors. Yeah. Huge shit. Huge. Huge shit. And I'm not going to... If I have to take a specific cross-colored item, it's the
Starting point is 00:54:22 gigantic colored pants. I think you can say cross-colored. That's a fashion trend unto itself. Well, oh, a dissent. I mean, it absolutely was. If I'm going to be here to pick this topic and make the rules, I would need you to nail down a specific trend within the cross-colored because cross-colored technically is a fashion line.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So if we're going to do designers or fashion houses or fashion lines, it would be cross colors. We, if you want to go into big, giant color blocking pants as worn by TLC, that would be the trend. Gigantic cross color pants, specifically turquoise,
Starting point is 00:55:00 yellow, and orange. Those were the ones that stuck out to me. I had the turquoise ones. I had orange cross color shorts that were massive, but yeah, I'm picking the jeans to me. Just still the dopest. I just love huge jeans. Yeah. Can't really do it anymore because I'm old, but I beg to differ, but yes, I appreciate it. But when you watch that video, I don't know. It just, the logo, the cross colors logo, I even like looking at,
Starting point is 00:55:25 it just makes me feel happy. It just reminds me of like how stoked I was on that. All these hot Australian dads in Atwater village who are walking around with like, uh, symmetrical haircuts and everything, but they're wearing big pants, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:37 They're your age. They got weird haircuts. They're wearing big pants. Yeah. I don't appreciate. Now you guys are, some of you, Sean, you're a parent, right? Yeah. So I, I don't appreciate. Now, you guys are, some of you, Sean, you're a parent, right?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah. So I don't like, no, I'll say this. I don't love when I'm walking around your Highland Park, your Venice Beach, and you see an adorable child. And you go, that's a cute kid. Look at that cute kid's outfit. And then you gaze, your gaze floats up to the parents who are I Alice somehow activated balloons
Starting point is 00:56:10 on her. Zoom is getting out of hand. What the fuck is going on? I don't get it. It's really. Your gaze floats up. I guess that's how you do it. I think it's the peace sign that makes the balloons happen. I do this with Max all the time on FaceTime and my fucking computer won't do it.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I do it all the time. I do it more than you two. And you see the parents are also dressed to the nines. Like every piece of it's curated. I don't like that. You don't like that? Especially
Starting point is 00:56:41 if the kid is a toddler. I don't like that at all. That really pisses me off because it's like, yo, your kid is barely alive and it's just running around and probably just like it should be. Unless what? Here's what it signals to me. We have help. Yeah. I'm just going to get that. I'm going, oh, OK.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You're not just raising that kid on your own. You're you're parading it about right now. But this whole look that you, the fucking head to toe, it's a runway. It's a runway for you. And it should be. You don't love that they had Dries Van Notten
Starting point is 00:57:09 make a toddler line just for their kid. Absolutely upset with the sequined. And it's parenting. It's not a red carpet. Okay. You should look tired.
Starting point is 00:57:20 You should have grease in your hair down to the third inch. You know, I want to cowlick. At that age, if you're a parent, I think you, because then other parents feel bad. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:30 You know? Oh, no, I don't. I couldn't feel less bad. I could give a fuck. Our Maxine wears whatever comes out of the drawer. We'll go to the, like, we'll go to the farmer's market. I'm like, yeah, run around, man. Everyone's like, oh, my God, how's your son?
Starting point is 00:57:44 I'm like, awesome. She's doing great. I mean, it doesn't matter because I'll put her in a tracks. I'll put her in whatever that comes out. Sorry, I'm not out here. I'm not. So if you see a kid wearing like a
Starting point is 00:58:00 full fear of God like neutral tone with a trench coat. Fine with me. And they're like three, you're like, awesome. Yeah, that's a little weird, but like,
Starting point is 00:58:10 because it's like once they get to the age where they're like, they're not going to get everything dirty maybe, but like, why would you, that seems insane to me.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Bro, somebody got our daughter a white cashmere blanket for a newborn. I was like, what in the, she at best isn't going to be able to take care a newborn. I was like, what in the, she at best isn't going to be able
Starting point is 00:58:28 to take care of this until she's like a straight A 17. I mean, I don't know. I would say 38. Yeah, I was like,
Starting point is 00:58:35 there's no age in my life when I would have been like, this white cashmere blanket is the move, what, for my buffalo wings and, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:41 dune or whatever. I think they're trying to set a trajectory where your daughter ends up becoming Nancy Meyers. Yeah. And I do admire that. Yeah, I think they're trying to set a trajectory where your daughter ends up becoming Nancy Meyers. And I do admire that. Yeah, I think so. They set a trajectory where
Starting point is 00:58:49 that blanket takes up closet space that it doesn't need to take up because it shouldn't fucking be here. Gigantic, gigantic cross-colored jeans. Pick number one. I love them. I love them so much. Big, color-blocking pants.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Love that for you. Yeah, yeah. Alice also sent us a vintage cross-color leather suede. B that. Yeah. Yeah. Alice also sent us a vintage cross color leather suede. I was rich and no family. Yeah. I would buy that in a heartbeat. It's only $700.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Lonely purchase for Sean. I think it looks ill. I mean, I could just wear that and gallivant around the house. Be like, I'm in the, what about your friends video? Look at me.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm the coolest person in the video. You could wear it around the house. It's once you walk out that door where it becomes trickier at least. My neighbors would be like, look at this guy. They wouldn't know. Anyway, yeah. Big giant color
Starting point is 00:59:35 blocking view. Fantastic. Alice, it's time for your first pick. Okay. So, obviously I'm going to go with... Did you hear that? No, I didn't. I heard something. Did the chair come up? No, my boyfriend blew his nose. He's always interrupting my self-tapes
Starting point is 00:59:52 with his elephantine nose, but it's fine because I forced him to live with cats. So gloves. Perfect. So we can talk about it now. We can talk about it.
Starting point is 01:00:06 My first pick is gloves. I have a lot of picks and I actually ended up drafting, like pre-drafting my draft so that I would have a cohesive team by the end of the draft. But I'm starting with gloves because it's obviously the most
Starting point is 01:00:20 egregious thing I'm wearing that is very noticeable. I'm wearing long opera length gloves. Now specifically. Material girl kind of like just to set it up for listeners, like the material girl gloves. Well, these are more material girl gloves are fingerless.
Starting point is 01:00:36 You're thinking of material. No, the material girl. No, the material where she's like, I mean, they're like those. Wait,
Starting point is 01:00:43 she's wearing opera length gloves I think so I'm like patronizing you guys thinking you don't have any fashion any fashion knowledge whatsoever but you're like coming with receipts and it's like I don't even need to be here I had a single mom
Starting point is 01:00:59 I watched Madonna videos yeah we can talk about the Vogue video next if you want. Yeah, I got a vlog. Okay. Madonna does wear those lacy fingerless gloves, though. She does. That is part of it.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That's her signature. Material girl shoes. But you're right, material girl gloves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So these kind of came back into fashion semi-recently in the last couple seasons. And I really like them because you wear them with a t-shirt. You don't wear them with the opera. You don't wear them with the opera. You don't wear them with the like, you could, you could, you could wear them with a,
Starting point is 01:01:29 a band dress or a body con bandeau dress. You could wear them with anything, but I like to just wear them casually with whatever. And it's one, one of the things about it that I like is that, um, I have, I like the idea of wearing driving gloves because I'm really pale. I'm worried about my hands in LA getting like sunburned. They never do, but I worry about it. You don't want a knuckle burn.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And then also, I'm 42 and I look quite young for my age, but my hands, if you see, it's like, this is looking real young. Like, I look like a little baby, a child.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Dragon hands. And then the hand comes up and it's like, Mervusula. You know? It looks like you reached into a cursed chest, kind of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, speaking of Tears of the Kingdom, it's like what happens to Link at the very beginning and he's like, oh, fuck, this is a horrible dead hand. Like in Fight Club, your hands got Fight Clubbed? Yeah, I honestly would Fight Club my hands.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I think that's a procedure you can get in Beverly Hills. So there's gloves and you can pair them with anything. It's like a funky, funky, funky time. And then you can, you know, you take them off. It's a layer. There's a lot of stuff that's versatile about gloves. It's also not only- Can you just grab like the middle finger and peel them off
Starting point is 01:02:49 or do you got to start at the bottom and- I kind of grab all four like this, you know, but I was wearing them last night. It was my partner's birthday and we were at a musical show and I was wearing black ones. I wish you said like monster truck rally or something. We were at a monster truck rally. Darling. And it's fun to meet people with these on
Starting point is 01:03:08 because you can't just, you could shake hands but it's just natural to go like this. Oh yeah. And then they shake. You're a Dave and Buster's like let me get four quarters. Can you say David and Buster's because I didn't say David and Buster's when you were wearing those. It sounded like you said David and Buster's.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You can't type with them on too, which is great. Cause that means I can't work. Can't work. That's wonderful. What am I doing? What am I doing? Do you ever do the jewelry over the glove? Jewelry.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You can do jewelry over the glove for sure. Also in the material girl video. Yeah. For days. And it's not just for skinny people. That's a big component of my fashion picks. I do not like trends that you can only wear if you're seven feet tall and skinny. I don't, I don't, at least I will try it.
Starting point is 01:03:49 You hear that, Victor Wemba Nyama? This isn't for you. Alice is coming for you. I will try that. I'm five foot one and I'm barely alive even, but I will try it, but I don't, I won't promote it on this show. No, thank you. So gloves. Yeah. Good call. Excellent pick. I love it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Also came wearing the gloves. Also, what I like about it is they disappear up the t-shirt, so you're like, I don't know where those end. Exactly. That could be a bodysuit. It could be a full superhero bodysuit under that. It's a whole thing. And you can wear a short coat.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You can also, I mean, the gloves trend also, you could wear short driving gloves. I like a long opera glove, but I like the fact that it's, it's not, it's, it's pure fashion, right? It's not like, I don't need this for any utility, you know, like it's, I'm not actually, I don't actually need it to grip the steering wheel. You know what I mean? You know, I had a buddy that went through a phase one time where he, and I think about it now, he was probably 20. I was maybe 17 and I showed up wearing something, a Nike hoodie or something. And he's like, oh, you're doing that. You're doing the whole brand thing still. And he tried to tell me that he dressed, he's like, yeah, just, you know, I just like a t-shirt and jeans. What else do I need? You know? I'm like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:01 sure. Right. And at the time I was young, I was like, oh, okay, damn. I must be a loser. Yeah. That kind of gatekeeping makes me insane. Oh, you're doing the Nike thing? Okay. If you have to make your younger friend feel bad about themselves to make yourself feel fashionable.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah. You're not going to be front row at this guy's first show. Okay? Okay. Great. Sean, have you considered driving gloves as a top 1% of unpaid drivers? No. I'll put Tommy Jonaghan
Starting point is 01:05:36 on blast, though. Maybe I've told this before. The first time I met Tommy Jonaghan, he showed up with driving gloves and a customized license plate that said TomJ25. He's one of my favorite comedians of all time. i and i was like what are you doing he was this was probably 17 years ago but anyway yeah he had driving gloves and a mustang hell yeah nice that's how you get to the top and stay there david time for your first pick i didn't pick stuff i wear at all this is that's all right oh yeah no i got some stuff I didn't wear.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I'm taking shoulder pads and women's jackets. I thought I was going to get that late. Yeah, I love the silhouette. I remember my mom having those. Kind of like the business type jackets with just huge shoulder pads and then
Starting point is 01:06:23 tights or something. Big fucking DKNY big belt. the business type jackets with just huge shoulder pads and then like tights or something. It makes me think of like Grace Jones. I don't know. I just always really thought that was a nice look. Yeah. That was like, and pardon, I don't want to sound crazy here, but the
Starting point is 01:06:41 shoulder pads thing was to make shoulders look broader. Like what was the, what was the fashion part of that? Cause it makes like an interesting like silhouette. Like when it's like big and boxy. Like a, like a, like a triangle or something. It creates a triangle, which draws the eye downward. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:56 That might be true. It sounds like something. I think in fashion, it's referred to as a strong shoulder. I'm not sure when it originated, sometime in the 80s. I'm looking up trying to see where exactly, like who was the first person to debut. Working girl is where it originated. I'm assuming it was probably like a lesser known designer
Starting point is 01:07:17 and then it was stolen by everybody else. But yeah, Grace Jones probably was the person to like popularize it the most. But yeah, it was like kind of in this like era of the, in the middle of a re-feminization of women's fashion, because during that time you had a lot of like the pretty and pink trend. Laura Ashley was a big thing. There was this also this other competing trend that was like big shoulders and like making
Starting point is 01:07:44 women seem kind of scary. So it was sort of like a backlash against what was happening. I think happening at the time. Oh, I just looked up Laura Ashley. That's just like, it's cottage core, almost big,
Starting point is 01:07:56 like flowery. You're saying. I gotta stop. Shoulder. Were they all built? They were all built into this shit, right? You didn't have like shoulder pads laying around.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I would find that. No, they were laying around. You could buy them. You could pull them out. And really. Some garments. Like orthotic. They were like orthotics for your shoulders.
Starting point is 01:08:13 You couldn't clean them with it in, right? You would have to take them out to clean them? Yeah, because I'd always find them in the laundry room. Oh, so there were like little shoulder pad pockets in the shirts, right? Some garments have them sewn in and some garments have removable shoulder pads. It depends on how strong the shoulder is. Like, it's a combination of pads and
Starting point is 01:08:30 the, what you're thinking of, David, is the construction of a business suit that is like sewn so that even if you don't have pads in it, there's space there so you could like, I guess, hide money in there or something. And I do. Cougar hands. What'd you read in there?
Starting point is 01:08:45 What'd you read inside there? Yeah, she did put a couple blunts in there. Grace Jones, like the whole broad shoulders. Like that was like a, like scary, you know what I mean? Like, like scary hot. Who Grace Jones? Who Grace Jones? Grace Jones.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Look up Grace Jones. You know Grace Jones. Grace Jones rules. Yeah, Grace Jones is awesome. There is a designer who just died, actually. Hold on a second. Designer who just died, who actually I think was like the progenitor of that silhouette.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Is progenitor a word? I mean, I just... It felt. I was going to ask you what it means. Progenitor? What is that? Progenited. Started.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yeah, like the person who... Well, Vivian Westwood, but that's not who I'm thinking of. David Wren. Oh, yeah. Okay, maybe this is who it is. Has there ever been a designer just named Linda or something? It was Azadina Alaya. Was one of Grace Jones' designers. Which is something I knew and definitely didn't just Google. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I think David Ratt. No, I'm trying to think. There's a guy. Whatever. It doesn't matter. I'm not a fashion historian. Wish I was. Shoulder pads is.
Starting point is 01:09:53 That's a move you could make later on, though. Like, you know, fit them. Here's what I wanted to visit on all these pics, too. Are these any of our pics currently back? Like, as we go through. I mean. Because, like, baggy jeans are fucking way back. Our shoulder pads coming back at all.
Starting point is 01:10:06 The gloves are back. The other thing about this, this draft is that everything is so cyclical. I would challenge you to find a trend that isn't being, that hasn't trended somewhere because of Tik TOK and the internet and fashion is moving so quickly that it's either a stylish now or it was stylish two weeks ago or it will be stylish in three. Like it's just everything goes now.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah. There's very little. Like I guess skinny jeans is like the one thing. And that'll be back before you know it. I swear to God. I've seen it still. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:42 We're living in sort of a renaissance like of fashion, but also sort of a renaissance of fashion, but also sort of a hellscape where there's no defining one thing, except for being skinny and white and tall. Unfortunately, that's still hanging on.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Stop, stop. Sue Carmel was big into shoulder pads. Big into them. All right. Shout out to my mom. Big into them. All right. Shout out to my mom. Yeah, so is Kelly Jordan. Kelly Jordan had a gift. Power. Time for my first and second picks.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I'm going to go with something that loomed large in the early 2000s. And it was something that I even dipped my toes in because it was accessible to everyone, including the thicker gentlemen and ladies. I'm taking throwback jerseys. I was going to take that too. The first competing pick. Shout out to Fabulous. Shout out to Fabulous. Shout out to
Starting point is 01:11:35 literally everyone. Fabulous is what pops. Fabulous and Cameron. That's what pops into my head. Cameron, Nelly. Fabulous had crazy ones, though. He had like, it would be like Hezekiah Jewish Day School. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Crazy shit. They would. They would have the weirdest stuff, dude. It was wild. He was going crazy. It was like, I'm wearing a Mordecai three-finger brown St. Louis pipsqueaks, you know, summer league jersey to the MTV VMAs. Like, it was wild because it combined two things.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It combined fashion and sitting around naming old athletes, which are two things dudes love. And you could do like a lot of color, like to expand. Did you have one? I had a few. Okay, so I think I may have told this story on this podcast before, but let me tell it again. We're deep, you know. My dad has a friend who
Starting point is 01:12:31 is in the import export business. You have. That's so sketchy. You have, because that's exactly how this started. That's so sketchy. He lived down by the dogs? Is that a guy? Ian, you forgot to do the air quotes when you said it.
Starting point is 01:12:47 His name was Fingers. I'm not going to say his name just in case, but like he exports you. Exactly. Yeah. For importing this information. My dad had somehow become aware of this
Starting point is 01:13:04 throwback trend. He's a fashionable guy. And I was going to Portland State University at the time and he was like, son, I could get you a line on some schmata throwback jerseys. So schmata is just like
Starting point is 01:13:20 it's an old Yiddish like it's the garments. It just means clothes. But it was like knockoffs. Yeah. The the schmadas it was like you would get fake you know chanel fake whatever whatever and he got a line on some schmada throwback jerseys and i was like all right like i'll do what i can like i'll at least see what you get because i was like thinking oh and they'd be for me to wear right you know and it was like i could throw on and so then like cut to two weeks later or whatever i get like so many like hella like like 60 or something like that knockoff and some of the knockoffs were good and
Starting point is 01:14:01 some of them were like not good at all and like like, he was like, so you can sell these on campus. And I was like, you want to sling them? And I'm going to eat. He goes, I'm going to need my taste after there. He wanted his taste and his friend wanted his taste. And I was the point man selling knockoff Mitchell and S jerseys.
Starting point is 01:14:18 They baby boy campus. I think I sold like two of them, by the way, to like friends. And I got to keep one. You're still in it with this guy? So it sounds like you didn't sell enough. That's why you gave him.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Looks like a lot of berets just fell off the truck. Yeah, he gets a third of our Patreon. He's a silent partner in all fantasy everything and the late late show he was. And so I was like, but he let me keep a couple, but he let me keep the shittiest ones. So I had this Deion Sanders that was just a white and blue
Starting point is 01:14:48 and ostensibly a Cowboys jersey, but it had no Cowboy markings on it. Some of them were really good, but I wasn't allowed to keep those. Throwbacks was like the era of like, that was the first time I ever knew dudes, not schmata, but those throwbacks was the first time I ever knew dudes who would like hustle clothes like I
Starting point is 01:15:06 had a few friends who was just like they were flipping throwback jerseys and I still know guys who do it with shoes a lot. Dude it's the nice thing about it it was eminently thriftable too cause like a jersey like if you were wearing a fucking Joe Theismann jersey that wouldn't really show
Starting point is 01:15:22 wear if you wore it two or three times and it's like oh I could then trade that for your Detlef Schramm Sonics jersey. And now we're both got new looks, you know? Does this go in line with the... I had Trailblazers, one of all. Oh, yeah. Does this go in line with like the FUBU
Starting point is 01:15:36 and No Limit jerseys? Or those don't count? No, those are different. Those are different. Okay. All right. Okay. They're related. Classic beloved athletes. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I guess I thought thought i didn't know throwback meant like literal oh i'll be right yeah that was the throwback jersey that was the point is that it was like people who weren't currently playing oh so you would have like a magic johnson michigan state you know i mean oh i was i was uh i was. So you can't have it for like a fictional player? Okay. I mean, I guess you could. You could have it for like a Space Jam player or something. For the time period, it was like Michelin-esque.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I know what you're saying. Old college people would have like, oh, there he goes. That's really cool with a beret. Beret? The beret and the throwback is really cool. I will say a little bit, it seems like we're cheating because this is, I don't know, this is as much of a fashion trend as it is like a display of like your deep knowledge of sports.
Starting point is 01:16:41 It was, I will come back to it. It was a lot of people who didn't give a fuck about Joe Theismann. It was like, I don't think it would, it wasn't like people were wearing it because they were huge fans of Larry Bird at Indiana State. You know what I mean? It was like a lot of people were just like
Starting point is 01:16:57 doing it because that was the trend. Yeah, okay. I like it and I'm glad you defended it. That was a test and I agree with you. Fashion, that was a fashion test, and you have passed. Oh, man, that's the first time I ever passed a fashion test. Oh, you passed a fashion test. You will pass a lot of them today, David. Get excited.
Starting point is 01:17:16 This is going to be a big day for me. It's a big day. Yeah, it's cool. So, yeah, throwback jerseys, they were like, where did Sean go? Restroom? I still see him. I bet he's going to put a jersey on. David, you see him, right? You can see Sean, right? Oh,ys. They were like, where did Sean go? Restroom? I still see him. I bet he's going to put a jersey on. You can see Sean, right?
Starting point is 01:17:28 Oh no. Yeah, he's here. Oh no, the throwback jersey's transported me to the past. I also have a, the only jersey I have right now is I have a fake Vince Carter jersey that I bought out of Jamel Johnson's backpack. Perfect. Shout out to Jamel. That man is in the shmada business in a big way.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Man, that guy's got jerseys. He's technically, I think he can pass in Orthodox Jewish synagogues because of how in the shmada game he is. This is authentic. I got this at Back to the Basket in Portland. A throwback Detlef Schramm Blazer jersey.
Starting point is 01:17:58 This is dope, man. I was in there one night. I love the better on the Sonics, I'm just saying. Me too. For sure. That's why this jersey is so funny because he was not like a big player for the Blazers. I tried to pick a topic that would be really like a thing I know a lot about. And the first thing
Starting point is 01:18:14 that happened was that you guys knew way more than I thought you would. And then the second thing that happened is we started talking about sports. And I will now pivot. I will now lift us out of sports and then dunk us right back in. Because with my second pick, I'm taking basketball sneakers as fashion and starting specifically with Michael Jordan 1. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Yeah, Jordan 1. What do you think? Probably seven years ago? That like really popped again? Yeah. It has never gone away. You don't think it's ever gone away? I don't think really popped again. Yeah. It has never gone away. You don't think it's ever gone away? I don't think it's ever.
Starting point is 01:18:48 No. I swear I started noticing like in the last five, ten years on everybody. Especially in stand-up. Do you think you didn't notice it before? Because I feel like I've always been aware.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I feel like as a kid, I remember it was a big time every year when they would come out. Yeah. And then it never, I never stopped seeing it. Yeah. But I think for a while it was like a look that it was like,
Starting point is 01:19:13 I am the person who wears the Jordan that this is, this is a part of me and my style. But what I think Sean is talking about is when it became like ubiquitous in the sense that it's not even a person who with style, it's just a guy who has a girlfriend. Right. That's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:28 It's just somebody being like, I'm getting some Jordans and never, yeah. I just feel like I noticed a huge pop five, 10 years ago. It took me out of it, to be honest. You would describe it as a trend.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah. Yeah. Cause you did used to have to be up on it. Yeah. And then now it's like every dweeb's got fucking one. So annoying. And that's a trend. It makes's got fucking one. So annoying. It makes me want to run. Actually
Starting point is 01:19:48 now, and now I think ones are fading a little bit and I'm like, time to get back in. I think, and to bring up, do we kind of, is shoes covered or no? Yeah, anything's covered. All shoes? Well, no, I don't know. I just, I think dunks like work their way in too. It's tricky. It's a basketball
Starting point is 01:20:04 that started as a basketball shoe that became an SB dunk which is a skate shoe which I'm not taking no I'm just saying I just think that I see a pop in that too where it's like everybody has dunks now the panda dunks turn that into like a standard issue what your character starts with is panda dunks
Starting point is 01:20:20 link those I haven't seen I don't know what that means let me see what that means you've definitely seen them oh the panda dunks yeah yeah they're black and white yeah I remember like seven years ago it being a really and then I liked what it would look like when they were really dirty
Starting point is 01:20:36 the Air Jordans oh yeah like a dirty Jordan and I think that is what became what we now see is like this golden goose, like pretty dirtied Balenciaga. Like that, I think like fed into that, you know, which is like, it's this, again, it's like this cyclical industry with like mostly marginalized groups or poor people or whatever
Starting point is 01:21:01 making a fashion style because they don't have, you know, like this is what they save money for or whatever, any group of people. And then it's like, and then fashion finds a way to like make it really expensive. Conversely, you know what's great?
Starting point is 01:21:13 Like the, like with the Air Force One, like the, like the having a super clean shoe, that's where I'm at, was more important to like, would be more important to like marginalized or whatever you know people who did
Starting point is 01:21:27 you know yeah yeah yeah whatever like if you save up money for it you keep it clean and the cooked Jordans came from like lower east side hipsters where it was like they would fuck and like dime where they would like wear the dirtiest you would see like girls in the last five years wearing
Starting point is 01:21:43 like the most brutalized Air Force Ones. I just walk so much. It hurts my heart. If you came from money, the dirtier your shoes, the more in your trust buttons, the more filthy your shoes are. I still try to keep my shoes as clean as I possibly can.
Starting point is 01:22:05 I avoid puddles. I like, I put duct tape on the inside of my jeans because the blue of the denim would rub off on the top of whites. And so I like, I always, it's like, if I am clean, I want them clean as they can get. I do too. My one exception with that is my pick, which is the Jordan one, which I like, especially like
Starting point is 01:22:25 because I'm hooping in there, but no, but like they're leather and they take the way, like in my opinion, like I like keeping the soles clean, but like the leather takes age well. Yeah. I think because it's an all leather and it's not, it's started as a performance shoe, but it's not
Starting point is 01:22:41 I think a crisp pair of Jordan 1s looks beautiful too, but I've got these red, black, and white like Chicago Air Jordan 1s that are like beat the shit out. And the crease. Well, they got a sexy crease. Because a lot of these kids will walk and they won't bend their toes in those shits because they don't
Starting point is 01:22:57 want them to, which is crazy because the crease looks cool to me because it just it's part of the wearing, you know. This is to me the heart of what Fashion Trends and Picking This is about. And I, this is a comedy podcast. And I was like, when I was, when I was like logging into the Zoom, I was like, Alice, don't be a fucking wet blanket and talk about social issues the whole fucking time. Nobody's going to like it.
Starting point is 01:23:21 But like this to me is what's so fucking fascinating about fashion in general is that like we have a group of people, maybe you guys don't even think about fashion normally, but like, it sounds like you actually do, but like this shoe, whether it's dirty or clean,
Starting point is 01:23:35 who wears it, when they wear it, at what stage of the leather aging, it doesn't just talk about like what you like when you see something. You're thinking about whether they're rich or poor, where they came from, what music they listen to, how old they are. You're thinking about all of the like various cultural touch points of what that means, what the shoe looks like.
Starting point is 01:23:56 And that is whether you like it or not. Like David's like, oh, it breaks my heart. Like that is evocative to me. Like that a shoe can, a shoe's dirtiness level on who's wearing it can actually communicate that is pretty interesting. It truly is
Starting point is 01:24:11 because it really does. To me, it's like, because sneakers were always aspirational, right? Yeah. From like, you know, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air wearing the fucking grape fives
Starting point is 01:24:20 and like all this stuff. So it's like, you see people just like beat to them and I'm like, man, fuck you. You can also, you took that
Starting point is 01:24:32 and like scuffed it on the sidewalk on purpose. You see some people's shoes like that where I'm like, you didn't come by that, honestly. But to Ian's point, a shoe that ages well, that's like a compliment to the shoe itself. Like if a shoe ages well and even a person who's like, don't do that to your shoes
Starting point is 01:24:48 can acknowledge that like, yeah, but like it wears in right. It wears into the point where you can still wear it. That's a really well like made and designed product. Nigel Sylvester, Sylvester, who's like a big BMX rider
Starting point is 01:25:00 has released pre, like I kind of, again, pre-distressed Jordans because he would wear Jordans doing like BMX rider has released pre like I kind of again pre distressed Jordans because he would wear Jordans doing like BMXing and then like with skating as well they would have certain wear points that would be natural so from like here's the place on the shoe you catch the pedal
Starting point is 01:25:15 this is where you would hit the pegs or skateboarding it's like this is where when you're doing like Sean you could speak to this better than me kickflip you're gonna wear out like your toes and the like the sole of the foot a lot quicker than anywhere else. Like lace guards and all that shit too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:30 So they've released like Jordans with, with like Jordan fours that just came out, which were a great sneaker last year that have reinforced areas because they're an SB Jordan for skateboarding. So the toe boxes is like reinforced and all these stress points and everything. It's just a perfect,
Starting point is 01:25:44 like it's a sim, it's just a perfect, like it's a simulacrum or a example of like the way pop culture moves in our society is like, it starts out with marginalized people, black people invent, like become like popularize a fashion trend. And then it moves through like, obviously does that white designers will steal an idea. And then like,
Starting point is 01:26:05 it'll go to the other end with like an athlete creating their version of a shoe that's pre dirty because that has become acceptable because Balenciaga, you know, like, it's like such a really insane, like, and if you look at it for one second, you're like, oh fuck. Like that is what a weird society we live in. Like, this is crazy. And I think like, just knowing about it is a way to like, be more grounded in reality, which is, yeah,
Starting point is 01:26:29 the great thing about fashion because it's like, fashion is seen as this thing that's like, not for normal people or like, you're like fashion victims or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Like, oh, let's talk about Balenciaga. But it actually talks a lot about what normal people are doing. I could count how many times a day I say that. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:26:44 let's talk about, don. Talk about Balenciaga. Laura, can we please talk about Balenciaga? That was my second choice for a pet name. It was Peaches and then Balenciaga. And then Balenciaga. Ended up being Birdie. Interesting. David, time for your second pick.
Starting point is 01:27:01 I'm taking this because I think it's super polarizing and it's so funny to watch something where like it happens so fast and the snake starts to eat its own tail and everybody starts to hate it i'm taking the fedora oh boy because it's just like it was such a standard for so long right like there was years and years where it was just a nice hat and then all of a sudden it got into pop culture for that little bit of time and just everybody turned on it and it's still like i was just talking to my girl about this i still think it's like a nice looking hat like i don't sure particularly find any issues with it it's also funny i remember my brother grew up in europe right so i remember he took a picture
Starting point is 01:27:45 like maybe like six seven years ago and i was like he was like he was like oh you know i got the fedora and i was like martin d and he but he had never even had that he had never even had the turn of it because he never had the backlash so it was always it was always so it's just like the like the rhythm of how that his moved is really interesting to me. And it's like become this thing that's like so like it's like it's like it's like it's like an epithet. Like when you say fedora, everybody knows exactly what you mean. It's this shitty thing. It became the nickelback of hats.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Yeah. The Vice History of the Fedora says that it's become associated with the men's rights movement. Isn't that crazy? What a bummer. Like, whoa. My fedora, it's rooted in jealousy because I remember, I think it was probably Kevin Federline where he like, he was the first person I was like, oh, that guy's got a fedora. And I was, and in my mind, I'm like, he's attractive.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And I don't, I'm jealous of like what's going on with him and you know being like fuck that that looks stupid yeah and I you know because you're jealous I'm like I would love to be able to pull off a fedora but I couldn't even I wouldn't be able to look up if I had one on some of the downfall of the fedora you want you you have to like earn a fedora you know it's part of it you are like you want to see some age in a face you know you want it like i think also it doesn't it looks kind of douchebaggy when you mix it with more casual clothes absolutely and i think that's kind of where it was like for so long it was like a formal dress-up thing yeah and then you see just like jason moraz and like a t-shirt and you were like this guy's a dickhead. So it's the strokes.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Like, so here's where I think it went bad. Like, it came out in the 1800s and then was like pretty standard in the 40s. And was doing fine
Starting point is 01:29:33 for 150 years or whatever. It was a pretty standard normal hat. It wasn't like a super wide brim so it was more practical. And then... You just wore a hat out
Starting point is 01:29:42 those days too. In the 60s, the ska, like the the the like ska dressing thing that started to become and it really popped popped off in the 80s like so from punk to ska from the 70s to the 80s then the fedora became like kind of a countercultural like i took my dad's thing and it's punk now whatever and so you see it then in movies like pretty in pink and john hughes movies like ducky wearing the fedora that was like the trend at that point like it was a very like
Starting point is 01:30:08 a way to signal like I'm a normal guy but I have some sort of style then it went away and then I think during the like 2000s when 80s came back like in the way that the strokes were dressing you know there was like this sort of this fucking apple
Starting point is 01:30:24 I love it. I hate it. I'll interrupt me in the middle of my spree. Keep going. Keep going. The strokes, this kind of like the, the, the stroke-ification of fashion, of like men's fashion with like,
Starting point is 01:30:37 remember how it was like the skinny ties? It was very 80s. It was very John Hughes, like that whole fashion thing. And that's when the fedora really came back onto the scene. And then it was like Jason Mraz and all these people were, that were copying off of like that lower East side hipster look. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Who are doing the post-punk revival sort of. Yeah. I think it was like what happens. I don't know. I'm, this is off the cuff, like a totally out of pocket, but I think it's what happens when like white people are allowed to just like take a trend
Starting point is 01:31:06 to be like, what if we do this? It's just like not informed by any other cultures whatsoever. And it's just like, there's something about it. This is like, I thought of cross colors on my own. I just saw him one day. Nobody, no influence or anything. I was like, I don't like these. But they also, I mean, that's what's true.
Starting point is 01:31:22 It's like when it was like the cool thing about Fado. I mean, they were also born based on their name, I'm assuming Italy. I'm assuming it was like Italian you know, Fedora. And where it was like, you know, it also came from like, I guess now this sounds weird, white
Starting point is 01:31:38 people kind of thing. But then it was like, but then by the time it winds its way to fucking Jason Mraz, it's like, oh, this has been stripped of all of its cultural meaning. Also, like David said, like fashion outside of its context looks a lot of it looks pretty dumb. Right. We'll get into later. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:56 Where it's like so much of it is timely and stuff like that. I think the only brim all the way around brim hat you can really wear casually is like a bucket hat. Well, we might. It might come up. You can. A very fashionable dude who's like wearing like if you're wearing a tweed, like the right kind of suit or the right cut of pants with a you. But you have to do a whole. But that's not casually.
Starting point is 01:32:20 That's what I'm saying. Like with streetwear. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think it lends itself. It's like too formal. Not too formal. I think it's just like
Starting point is 01:32:29 it's just like it doesn't look good with casual clothing. You know what I mean? You're probably right that it's too formal because it used to be a whole movement. It used to be more casual and then it became through the casual, you know, America becoming more and more casual. You can't wear a Ford fedora with athleisure wear.
Starting point is 01:32:46 You know what I'm saying? No, it would look so weird. What if Lululemon made a fedora? A moisture-wicking fedora? Shot on sight. Shot on sight. I'd just wear it at the airport because it's comfy, but it looks formal. It's such an unfashionable piece
Starting point is 01:33:01 of headwear. It's actually a challenge. I would like to find a way to make this work I'm surprised it's like the Mount Everest of I think about it a lot it's actually
Starting point is 01:33:13 you know that that cooking show where they have like the weird basket of ingredients what's it called chopped chopped it's like for
Starting point is 01:33:19 that would be a really cool fashion show to like for stylists shopped shopped oh my god there it is you should make way more money a really cool fashion show for stylists. Shopped? Shopped. Oh my God, Ian. There it is.
Starting point is 01:33:27 You should make way more money. Yeah, we all thought of that. Thank you. Oh, sorry. Alice, do you want to go pitch a show called Shopped? Ian needs the money to pay off the guy.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yeah, he's got to pay off the schmata guy. I'm in deep. I'm in deep. It turned out he sold me this jersey. I didn't recognize it. Listen, I'm watching The Sopranos right now,
Starting point is 01:33:46 and bad stuff's going to happen if you don't give them his taste. Look, Sean. He's watching The Sopranos. I sure am. Prestige television. I am deep, and I love it. Alice, it's time for your second pick. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And I do two in a row or do one? Just one. Just one. There's a corn on the cob thing earlier. I explained it pretty well. I'm going to do... Okay. This one's kind of specific.
Starting point is 01:34:11 So lately there's been a metallification, like putting silver and gold on everything. I really like silver. And I bought two pairs of these. I bought two pairs of silver jeans. I got a little obsessed. I got a little obsessed. I got a little obsessed and I bought two different pairs
Starting point is 01:34:26 for two different... They're denim? They're denim. They're denim and I'll show you one pair here. I haven't returned these yet. Yeah. Did you return the others?
Starting point is 01:34:38 I almost said put it on my tombstone. I get buyer's remorse so quick these days. Especially if I go shopping, shopping, and I'm like, I'm going to try these jeans on, and I get them home, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:34:48 those are going, it's just a matter of time. Those are going back. I'm not. I do it constantly. I hate shopping for pants. Shoes, all day, all night. Pants, I just can't. Whoa, those are super silver.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Wow. And that's denim. Those are cool, though. Those are really cool, though. I really got into these. I like looking like you came from the future in some way.
Starting point is 01:35:12 These are from Nasty Gal. Of course they are. I looked for them for a while because you can obviously buy a designer version of these. But for trends specifically, I don't like to spend a ton of money most of the time. Sometimes I will because you can resell it. But the resale value of a trend piece goes down,
Starting point is 01:35:30 whereas like a classic piece like a trench coat or, you know, that'll go up. Think about this, you know. But I bought that and then I bought a stretchy, like lighter colored one that's less like a futuristic and those are from the gap. And so it's just like, I just need to be shiny on the bottom for some reason right now. Shiny, shiny top and bottom is a whole, that's a big,
Starting point is 01:35:55 shiny top and bottom might be the fedora. It's too much. You know, I, I like, I like a fashion item that is a, a sort of embellished take on an everyday thing. But you got to be careful with it because you can't go too far. Because like all of a sudden, then you're wearing ripped jeans with like Swarovski crystals all over them.
Starting point is 01:36:15 And that'll take you in a difficult direction. It's fine. Wear what you want. But it's a little hard to pull off. If you're doing that, you're starting to stir my mom's Kool-Aid a little bit. She can't have other people. That's the kind of shit she likes. Maybe take the rips out in the last 20 years, but you get them crystals all over.
Starting point is 01:36:33 It's everything. I saw a BMW with the top, the whole front of the hood. It was Swarovski crystals. We've gone too far. Whenever I see it happen, I'm like, go for it. It doesn't bother me at all if it's on someone else. I love seeing it. Like, yeah, man, go nuts with that shit.
Starting point is 01:36:50 I like to imagine the ones, the jeans covered in crystals and the feeling of sitting down and it's like... We were sitting in Port Collins and this dude was at the breakfast spot and he had giant crosses crystaled all over his jeans. And I was like, man, that is insane. And my buddy, Adam, who's like anti, he's like anti-fashion for some reason, but he looks down and he's like, you think those dunks are cool? And I was like, don't you dare try to tell me these dunks are even in the same arena
Starting point is 01:37:19 as those cross heaven jewel jeans that that dude's got on. I wasn't even, it's not like I walked up to the guy and was like, man, your jeans suck. I said it to my friend in confidence at brunch. You know what I mean? It is interesting, though. I mean, like, you're right, but it is like what it's, it's, I don't know, it's. That was his point.
Starting point is 01:37:35 He's like, well, opinions are opinions. And I'm like, stop, just stop trying to argue just to argue. I get what you're saying, but, you know. I'm contrarian. Yeah, eggs Benedict over here. So it's, this one was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:47 This one was sort of iffy for me because it's like, it's a trend right now. Like silver denim is like a trend. And it like, just from basic like runway to store, it hasn't been like exploited and turned into a million different things
Starting point is 01:38:01 like the crystals on the jeans. Runway to store, like the fashion, the fashion version of farm to table. Fashion version of farm to table. But like this is a trend that I didn't want to necessarily, I love it.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I love the way it looks, but like I don't want to, I don't know, like I don't like to pick trends that are like hard to pull off or something. Like I like for things to be accessible and just be fun, you know, like just, you know, so I would love to see like a guy wearing who'd like normally just wears
Starting point is 01:38:31 cargo shorts or whatever, just like do like a silver cargo shorts, metallic cards. I don't know, like something like that would be cool or like a metallic sock. I just like fun, irreverent choices on like in unexpected places. You're seeing a lot of metallic tops and bottoms on the red carpet, too, where it's just full. Yeah, which is like, I feel like that's an appropriate place for it.
Starting point is 01:38:55 But I like it. I want it to be. The jeans, I picked the jeans because it's a little inappropriate. Yeah, it is. Why are my jeans dipped in gold? Why are the jeans from the future? Why are the jeans? Yeah yeah it looks like you sent the jeans this is what i like about it looks like you sent the jeans in a time machine and you're like come back to me when you're ready
Starting point is 01:39:13 and they went to you know 30 37 and it came back and it's like the jeans are like oh it's crazy it is it is memorable though i remember in my early when i first moved to san francisco there was a girl who wore gold pants. And that's how we all knew. We called her gold pants. Yeah. It was like a part of her identity. And she started calling herself gold pants.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Yeah, like the... Uh-oh, gold pants is here. And she just watched. Yeah, she was kind of like that. I would be too. I'm Lizzie gold pants. I love that. Like, I imagine her at dinner at her parent.
Starting point is 01:39:45 They're like, eat your peas. And she's like, no peas for Goldpants. No Goldpants, no peas. Julie's dragon fruit and stuff like that. Crazy like. Put some honey on them. You want Goldpants to eat them. That hasn't even come out yet.
Starting point is 01:39:57 This reminds me of a traumatic experience when I was younger. When I was in seventh, eighth grade, I was like really into fashion magazines and I would do crazy shit. I'd wear crazy shit all the time. And one time I wore, I saw in Sassy magazine, they had, they had braids, two braids and there was like a whole editorial. Yeah. But like braids, like pippy long stocking. And there was a whole editorial like that about like that hairstyle, like kind of, I don't know, just wearing pigtails in general, like pigtailed braids. And I wore my hair like that. And then this girl at my school, like she like came up to me in the stairwell, which was the notorious place for bullying because there was no teachers.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And she was like, I don't know about the stairwell. Hey, bitch. And I turn around and she was like, she goes, she pulled my brain and she's like, you look like, you look like Pippi Longstocking,
Starting point is 01:40:53 bitch. And I was like, sometimes it doesn't have to be creative. I love how uncreative it was to me. Like, it was like, I was like horrified at the time but then like later on i was like fuck i love kids insulting kids like it's so just like boom
Starting point is 01:41:12 like nothing really hey that's bad and then straight to the point a to b hey bitch you look like pippi longstocking and then that same girl wore them two months later because the mariah carey video came out where she was wearing pigtails. Yeah. And I was like, but you, but you. You were ahead. You were ahead of trend. Not anymore, bitch.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Now I look like Pippi Longstocking, bitch. In my memory, she gave me eyes and was like, don't you fucking say a word. She just walks up and grabs you by the bangs that you now have. And she's like, bitch, you got bangs. Are we doing this again? I fell astray once in middle school where, it's only somewhat related, but I was walking with a limp because I had like rolled my ankle
Starting point is 01:41:54 at recess running around and these like I was probably in 6th grade and these tough 8th graders thought I was doing like a gangster limp and they called me on it like, oh, are you a gangster? And I was like walking around in like a, I think I had like a Winnie the Pooh shirt and I was doing like a gangster limp. And they called me out on it. Like, oh, you a gangster? And I was like walking around in like a, I think I had like a Winnie the Pooh shirt. And I was like, no, no, I'm just, I hurt.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I got hurt. Yeah, right. I tweaked my ankle now. And I made myself walk normally because I was so embarrassed. Winnie the Pooh. Listen, I got hit one time. I got one of those big jackets with the fur lining hood. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:24 And I said something and this kid was like, all right, Jenny from the block. Oh, my God. Yes. got hit one time i got one of those big jackets with the fur lining hood oh yeah and i said something and this kid was like all right jenny from the block oh my god yes it really really fucked my shit up that would like i wanted to fight him i was like yeah that's the only surely you must die yeah i can't know you you and this jacket cannot walk the planet at the same time i gotta come back here tomorrow yeah the thing about that is like you can't know you you and this jacket cannot walk the planet at the same time I gotta come back here tomorrow yeah the thing about that is like you can't really respond
Starting point is 01:42:49 cause like with the Pippi Longstocking thing like she wasn't being friendly to me she's like you look you look at Pippi Longstocking it would be one thing
Starting point is 01:42:55 but she really said bitch so it's like it's not like I can be like thanks man yeah yeah you can't go to that person like you could maybe spin it like
Starting point is 01:43:04 yeah Jenny from the block I love Jennifer Lopez this is me now that's You can't go to that person. You could maybe spin it like, yeah, Jenny from the block. I love Jennifer Lopez. This is me now. It was not that kind of party. No. Yeah. You can tell.
Starting point is 01:43:17 That wasn't going to go down like that. No, it wasn't going to work. Thank you. And I choose to take that as a compliment. Yeah. Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got. I'm a beatnut for fashion Sean Jordan, time for your second and third picks Second pick, I gotta go
Starting point is 01:43:36 Again, this is pretty true to me But I had Probably had seven of these, but starter jackets Oh, come on I had Notre Dame, Duke, Georgetown, Kansas City, Hurricanes, North Carolina, and
Starting point is 01:43:52 maybe I had six. Can't think of any other off top. Now this is coming back. Those were all the hits, too. Every once in a while, I look for a starter jacket online. They're great. You go to Back to the Basket, they have grips and like
Starting point is 01:44:05 if it didn't if it wouldn't look absolutely batshit for me to wear one right now with the rest of my aesthetic I might think about it
Starting point is 01:44:14 but it would I would look like a lunatic or a drug dealer like or like a not a good drug dealer I don't think so I see some starter jackets here
Starting point is 01:44:21 that would be fine for you on eBay I'm talking pullovers so there there were starter jackets here that would be fine for you on eBay. I'm talking pullovers. So there were starter jackets that zipped up, which I mean, they count, but I'm talking the pullover, big ass pocket in the front starter jacket, like one color on the shoulder,
Starting point is 01:44:35 like top is white, shoulders orange, sleeves green, that kind of stuff. Make sure, let's all be in agreement. I think Sean could get away with this easily. Taking a gander, diving in. Alice has presented a San Francisco 49er starter jacket to the chat. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I know it is, and it's signed on the edges. I think you could easily get away with this. It's only 70 bucks? That's cheaper than they were. That used to be like 120. Big ass jeans, dude? Yeah, you could wear that. You just have to be confident about it. And that's your only issue. Yeah, I'll wear that. You just have to be confident about it. And that's your only issue.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah, I'll die this way. Yeah, I mean, this is not that big of a risk. Well, I mean, just for when those popped, we're the same age, Alice. So like when those popped, it was probably like sixth to eighth grade for me. And everybody, it was such a move. Probably like preschool at that time, something like that.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Okay, fine. Whatever. It doesn't matter. I imagine David had one at some point, but, um, yeah,
Starting point is 01:45:30 those, and they went away when they were gone. They were gone. It seems like they were just gone. And in the last few years, every now and again, over the last 20 years, you'd see one of the wild somewhere,
Starting point is 01:45:40 like some dude at a bar and you'd be like, what happened to that guy? But now they're just kind of back and they're, you know, like you'd see, I remember seeing these 35 year olds with like a Hurricanes jacket. And I'm like, whoa, is that, you know, just out of nowhere. But I loved it because it was, you know, starter shit. But yeah, now they're back a little bit. Now you'll see them on like the kids every now and again, especially if you're going
Starting point is 01:46:02 to like a cool standup show somewhere. I wonder. Yeah. I wonder. Yeah. I wonder if they're. So I haven't seen this. I'm looking at the eBay listings, but I couldn't. I love this one, but I couldn't wear. I'm not a Golden State Warriors fan, so I couldn't wear it.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Oh, that's a good one. If you are Golden State Warriors fan, come see me at the punchline this weekend. Yeah. Maybe pick up this vintage starter puffer star jacket with stars on the edges. It's really nice. But in my high school, I grew up in Minnesota. So it's really cold like nine months out of the year. Where? I grew up in South Dakota.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Where in Minnesota? In Minneapolis. Oh, it's my favorite city in the whole world. It is? I love Minneapolis too. I love Minneapolis too. Yeah, anyway. Unfortunately, my whole family lives there, so I can't go there.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I can't go there. I've. Unfortunately, my whole family lives there, so I can't go there. But there is... I can't go there. I got to see my whole family. There were these starter jackets that everybody had in my middle school that were... Maybe I'm making this up, but I have not seen one.
Starting point is 01:46:57 They're not shiny. The exterior of the starter jacket, it was always all black, and it was like matte. Like some sort of like almost cotton. Oh, I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. I want to all black and it was like matte. Like some sort of like almost cotton. Oh, I know what you're talking about. I want to say, and it was puffy. And I haven't seen it ever. Like maybe
Starting point is 01:47:11 the fabric didn't like pull up. No, I know what you're talking about. It was puff and it was flat. Oh, man. It was flat. I would love to find one of those. And they didn't have hoods, right? I had a North Carolina one of those. I know what you're talking about because my North Carolina one was like that. It was a zip up.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Correct me if I'm, is that what you're talking about? It was a zip up. Yeah. And mine just had a big NC on the back. The rest was like matte black. And yeah, it was amazing. It was probably my favorite one
Starting point is 01:47:36 because it looked like the most gangsta, like actual, where I'd put it on and make like, man, this makes me look bigger. And it's like, it's murdered out. It wasn't cartoony. Like my Notre Dame one had a big fighting Irish guy right on it. I was like, man, this makes me look bigger. And it's like, it's murdered out. It wasn't cartoony. Like my Notre Dame one had a big fighting Irish guy right on it. I was like, how tough can you really be?
Starting point is 01:47:50 But yeah, that murdered out North Carolina one. Like you throw that with like my Adidas track pants and my Carl Canais. Couldn't talk to me, baby. I was out there. I wonder if it was like cheaper or something. So yeah, anyway, starter jackets. And then I want to get out of what I do, but I also kind
Starting point is 01:48:10 of don't. How about this one? I'll pick no, I'm doing Bugs and Taz. I'm picking Bugs and Taz stuff. Oh, the Looney Tunes. Yeah, yeah, the Looney Tunes. There's a lot of cross pollination between all of your picks. I know. I'm just doing what I wore one day in seventh grade. We get what your heyday was.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Not in a negative way, but I'm like pretty sure there were Looney Tunes wearing cross-colored t-shirts. And I think there absolutely were. There was a Looney Tunes starter cross-colored jacket. Yeah, there was a whole time period where you would wear, I remember wearing a lot of shirts with like characters
Starting point is 01:48:41 dressed cooler than I was on the date. Yeah, that's really good absolutely where you're like I just dress like I'm trying you're like wearing a tight t-shirt and some shorts and the dudes on the t-shirt are just like
Starting point is 01:48:57 maybe nobody will notice I'm not Bugs and Daffy maybe no one will notice his beat up sweatpants. And they'll just look at Taz. If I were a little older, if I had a little more money, this is maybe the kind of thing I would start investigating. But I'm not.
Starting point is 01:49:12 I'm 12. You understand this is what I want to be doing. Oh, that's so funny. That's exactly what it was. Yeah. I had found, I was really in the market for some silk pajamas so I went on the internet and I found
Starting point is 01:49:29 did TLC have anything to do with that? yes so I got to the end of my search I was like looking couldn't find I found this set of silk all silk pajamas with a print of Taz.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Oh my God. And it was like, and it said, I love Taz. And then a little Taz, like, like an all over. And I was like, and I immediately bought them. And they were like 40, 50 bucks. Immediately bought them. How old were they? When was this?
Starting point is 01:50:05 This was like two years ago. Okay. And I got them in the mail, and I was like, yay. I was in Canada, so I was like looking for, you need all over pajamas in Canada because it's cold all the time.
Starting point is 01:50:16 So, and I got them, and they were like triple XL. They're way too big for me. And I was like, I could, I could maybe tailor these, or I could just give them to a male friend with, with, with what they call rules. No,
Starting point is 01:50:31 they were so big. They were so big that, that I couldn't wear them. Cause it would be like the dragging on the ground behind me, you know, like, like it was just ridiculous. So I give them my,
Starting point is 01:50:43 to my friend Seve, who has really good style. Se was just ridiculous. So I give them to my friend Seve, who has really good style. Seve sounds like... I would like to know what 3XL man was out there in the market for silk Taz pajamas. I want to meet that guy. I feel like it's like Montel Jordan. I feel like they came from...
Starting point is 01:51:00 Yeah. It really feels like that's... I just had that... Obviously I took them to a medium and we did it we did an exorcism can I ask what did Taz do to grip a nation the way that he did I don't understand
Starting point is 01:51:17 why he has such a deep Clinton years when there was so much money flowing and so much order and everything was upper middle class what the world needed was chaos. Yeah. I see. I've seen so many dudes like dudes I grew up with who's like dads would have a dad's tattoo.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Like it is like I don't even he's not even like an original Looney Tune. Right. That's like late. No stage Looney Tune. My boy's got one. He's got he's gotaz tattoo and he's 42. He's my age. I wish we had him on the show.
Starting point is 01:51:47 I want to ask him about like why I get that. No, you don't. But that's what I'm saying, right? It's almost fedora-y. You know, it's like a signaling of like male, super male counterculture. But it's also like it's informed by like somebody in the fashion industry was like Taz is going to be cool now. Like I have an association with Taz. So some like designer somewhere was like Taz or maybe a counterculture came up with it. And then it got like recycled
Starting point is 01:52:16 and recycled and recycled until it's that now it's just Calvin pissing on a bumper sticker. Richard Bane. I think he's just like, I think he's pure id is what it is. He doesn't talk. He's just like consumed. You know what I'm saying? There's no... He doesn't seem to be driven by anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Does he eat? What does he do? Is he eating when he does that? I thought that's all he does. He devours. He devours. But he'll eat like a door, right? Like he'll eat anything? Because that's all he does. He devours. He'll eat like a door, right? He'll eat anything?
Starting point is 01:52:47 Because that's when he cycles through. He just shovels it all into his mouth. Do you think Animal from the Muppets came first or Taz? Animal was first for sure. Animal was like when I was a kid. Taz like Hanna-Barbera's or Looney Tunes rip off Animal.
Starting point is 01:53:03 They're like, we also need an animal. That's a good question. Oh, well, they just needed some new blood. Anyway, we're going to get to, we're going to get to some of those questions.
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Starting point is 01:57:03 betterhelp, H-E-L-P.com slash all fantasy. And we're back off your first month. Again, that's betterhelp.com slash all fantasy. And we're back. Hey, welcome back to all fantasy. Everything already in progress. Sean special comes out March 21st on Patreon. $10 gets the access to 60 minutes of the hottest yuck yucks, crack them ups and straight up barbs that you're going to find in the year 2024. And if you're in Portland, Oregon, come to Rev Hall on March 23rd.
Starting point is 01:57:26 My good friend Ian Carmel is recording his first stand-up special. I have been present to watch him work on this material over, what would you say, the last year? Yeah. You've been digging it out? I mean, yeah, but I've been around for a lot of it, and it is on point. It's fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:57:45 And let me just say this. If you come, if you either watch Sean special or come to my show without having watched Royal crackers or Alice's Twitch or resident alien on Netflix, I'm going to punch you in the face. I'm going to punch you really hard. Be forthright with the information. I tried to go see Ian work on his show.
Starting point is 01:58:01 And, um, they said, yeah, they barred me at the door and they said, it's too real for you. It's too real. And they said, yeah, they barred me at the door and they said, it's too real for you. It's too real. And I said, I understand.
Starting point is 01:58:11 And that's for you. That's for your safety. That's not like, I value our friendship. I think you're wonderful. I celebrate you every chance I get. I think I see it as a further evaluation
Starting point is 01:58:20 of our friendship. You understand what I can and cannot handle. I'm actually afraid that the molecules of your body would shudder and just blast apart like that if you saw some of the stuff I was saying. Get you a friend who cares for your molecules.
Starting point is 01:58:32 As I always say. Balenciaga. Alice, time for your third pick. It's going to be a tinted shade, baby. We'll go real quick for these last two rounds. Real quick, a tinted shade. Third round we can. Oh, last two rounds. Real quick. A tinted shade. Third round weekend. Oh, tinted shade. Nice.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I love tinted glasses. Man, you know what I think? I think of the dude from Knott's Landing, the older attractive gentleman from Knott's Landing. He was the first one I saw with the tinted shades. Everybody, real common reference. Everybody's going to know what I'm talking about, especially because I don't know his name. It's super, yeah. And that's, you
Starting point is 01:59:04 don't need, it's kind of the guy you don't need to know his name. It's super. Yeah. And that's, you don't need, it's kind of got the guy you don't need to know his name because it's too baked into all of our, our shared cultural experience. So I, I've been doing press, I've been doing press,
Starting point is 01:59:16 I've been doing press for Resident Alien for quite some time. And Mr. Alan Tudyk, the star of our show, lead actor in Resident Alien plays harry vander love that guy he is great like he is a he has beautiful style and he wears these tinted glass he wears tinted shades a lot when we're not shooting or when we're doing press or whatever
Starting point is 01:59:38 and i fucking think he looks so good and it's a little ironic because my boyfriend had these tinted shades that I used to make fun of him for wearing. But now I let him wear them again because I'm like, I realize what you were doing. It was before my time. You were right. I was wrong. And then I got these on eBay. These are vintage, some sort of, I saw these in, you saw that movie, the series, The Staircase, the like scripted version of the documentary yeah with Colin Firth
Starting point is 02:00:09 the lady who played the ex-wife wore these in the courtroom and I was like I love wearing a tinted shade in a court of law they're fantastic they're like I'm emotional but I'm also high class I'm emotional I can't handle but, but I'm also high class. I'm emotional.
Starting point is 02:00:25 I can't handle the lights in here. Are you kidding me? I just woke up. I have a condition and it's bright in here. I'm not saying you should wear fur, but that those sunglasses like would look good on the Upper East Side. Like, you know what I mean? With like a fur coat, you know, kind of thing.
Starting point is 02:00:40 I have another version of them, which I'll get if we want to go to the next person and I'll just put them on. You can just observe that. I love that. We'll go ahead and do it. David Borey, time for your third pick. Oh, my third pick. I'm picking these because I just never, I never, once again, something I never did. I always just thought, it was, it always
Starting point is 02:00:57 seemed like such a bold, weird choice. I'm taking Rave Pants. Oh, God. Oh, yeah, dude. I never did either. It is crazy to me. Oh, those are great. Those are killer.
Starting point is 02:01:12 You should open with those. You can get these. Every one of you could wear these and look great. Wide, wide face. I don't wear sunglasses. I wear the shit out of sunglasses. I know you do. You love them.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Yeah, I'm in there like swimwear. I love shit. Alice is wearing, is that a tortoise shell? Is it a tortoise shell with a, yes, a tortoise shell with, I want to say like a, almost a cobalt blue or no,
Starting point is 02:01:37 maybe a little lighter, like a, it's just a beautiful blue lens. It's a sky blue on the lens coming across a little darker than it is, but yeah. Yeah. Just gorgeous. Thank you. Yeah. Just like what a spring in a bowl blue on the lens. It's coming across a little darker than it is, but yeah. Yeah. Just gorgeous.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Thank you. Yeah. Just like what a spring in a bowl is, they say. Easy. It's easy. It's like the mask for the pandemic when you're like, I don't want to put makeup on. I don't want to worry about boogers. I don't want to worry about my pimple and next to my mouth.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Boogers. So I'll just wear this mask. I don't want to worry about boogers. My whole eye situation. Like, I didn't even comb my eyelashes out today. Me either. You know I have to do that every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Rave pants. David picked rave pants. So rave pants is sort of like overlapping Venn diagram with Sean's cross-colored pants. But David. I think about it as a different time though. Rave pants got pockets, they got shit hanging off them, they parachute.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Lots of straps. Yeah, I was thinking about this. Cross-colored pants have pockets? Rave pants have cargo pockets. Rave pants have pockets, pockets, pockets, pockets. I also think of them as post-cross-colors. I think about it more in the timing
Starting point is 02:02:44 of like 98 99 2000 type static x yeah i just remember seeing them and i'd always be like wow it just seemed like i never thought they looked cool but it was just it always seemed like such a wild choice especially when i was a kid we were in was State. So these kids would have these giant rave pants and the bottoms would just be wet. Yep. And cut up. Same in Minnesota. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Like, why are you wearing this? This is like, you're working for this. You are working for this. It was a point of pride with how shitty the bottom of your pants looked. I swear it was. Was it? Yes. I did not know that.
Starting point is 02:03:21 It always seemed like your legs would be cold. Yeah. And the silhouette looked crazy. They were so nuts. Kids were just wearing those. Oh, yeah. In those days, it seemed so insane to me to wear something that intentioned. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:03:36 Because I was just wearing like cargo shorts and a T-shirt. And I'm like, you're making, you're really painting yourself into a corner with those pants. Yes. Now you're that guy. Nobody's like, oh, I just threw these on. You know what I mean? You needed a summer in between making a decision. Like, if you dress like that, you needed a whole summer to be like, I don't dress like this anymore. You couldn't just show up
Starting point is 02:03:58 the next day normal. You can't just come on Tuesday because you bought them on Monday night. You're right. At least the spring break situation. There was people. Go ahead. No, please. You.
Starting point is 02:04:09 There's people in my high school who would wear a raver-esque pant, but it was a skater version of it. And it was like a wide leg, but a little cropped above so that there was space. God. That's what the floods. That's what they're doing now. They're like the Jankos in the zones, that's what they're doing now. They're like the Jankos in the zones. That's what they're doing now. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:26 So, and they would, I felt like that look was like, it was really working because it was like, okay, this is a practical choice. You can move around. There's some snowboarding pants reference here.
Starting point is 02:04:36 So it kind of makes sense that you need this extra fabric as an athlete, but it's obviously a style choice that you can kind of like, sort of justify it. But like these raver pants to me were never, I never liked it because it was like there's it really is the truest, again David, picking something that has become such a trend for people
Starting point is 02:04:56 with no style. Can we go back to where skateboarders were athletes a second ago? Well, yes, but skateboarders are athletes. Yeah, skateboarders kids nobody doesn't think I guess like in the you know okay okay yeah it's literally in the Olympics yeah right
Starting point is 02:05:11 no but those raver pants holy buckets those were the worst yeah yeah it was so many I like the David's picking things that he like doesn't like yeah they had like like zippers and buckles and stuff.
Starting point is 02:05:29 They were way too busy for me. It was also crazy because it was like at the time, when kids started wearing those, I feel like it was like junior high. It wasn't even reflecting what they were into because nobody was going to raves. Yes.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Yeah. Right. They saw Seth Green and Can't Hardly Wait. Really even listening to techno music, it was just they were wearing those pants. My friend who wore those was into death metal. He was into that
Starting point is 02:05:59 scream singing. But he wore raver pants. It's weird because I really like a risky fashion choice, but it's like, I guess the reason it bothers me is because it's not a risk if all your friends are wearing it
Starting point is 02:06:12 and you literally will be ostracized unless you have these insane, ridiculous pants. It's kind of giving emperors new clothes because it's like everybody's agreeing that this looks good, but it's like it really, we all outside are like,
Starting point is 02:06:24 you actually all look insane and stupid, and it looks really impractical. Those, man, the people who were into those pants, though, it's like, kind of, like, the flip side of what you were saying, like, I always thought they looked dumb. But the people who liked that shit, some of those, and some big, like, the women who wore those pants, but then, like, big, tall shoes, like. But you're describing pants but then like big tall shoes.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Like. But you're describing somebody who actually went to a rave. That's the difference. Like a tiny little tank top. Yeah, like 14 year old kids who started smoking this year. Yeah, and they would wear that in like a saliva hoodie. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:01 That guy, that lead singer is soaked. His hair looks lead singer is soaked. His hair looks like it is soaked every second of the day. It was just, yeah. I just think about it when I think about trends and fast things passing and just like, when you look back and you're like, what the fuck was that? Ray Pants is like right in there for me. That might be the most trendy trend ever. That is really, I think, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:24 You have to have won something with that. Yeah. He wins the draft. He wins the draft. I feel like he did. I'm just winning a middle school outfit. That's right. You really are.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Time for me to make my... David so far, well, I'll save the whole list until the end. And it's funny to picture someone wearing all that. Time for my third and my fourth picks I'm going to take this is a symbolic pick but I'm going to take the chambray shirt the chambray button up
Starting point is 02:07:53 for men as a representative of sort of the Ralph Lauren work wear aesthetic I have two Ralph Lauren chambray shirts in my closet right now me too fucking shout out to that to Ralph Lipschitz
Starting point is 02:08:08 one of our great Jews it's a great shirt it's so good, taking American work wear and like turning it into something that you can wear, like you can put it under a blazer, it has to be the right blazer it has to be like a tweed or an outdoor blazer but like it's just such a great shirt. You can pair it with denim. You can pair
Starting point is 02:08:29 it with corduroy. You can pair it with all sorts of different other things. It looks good, but it looks dressed down. It looks classically American, but also like British, like taking to the country in a fun way. Like it's been interpreted by, you can be on a sailboat. It's summery, but you can also wear it in the odd. It's been interpreted by so many different be on a sailboat. It's summery, but you could also wear it in the odd. It's been interpreted by so many different groups of people. I just love it. And also, shout out to Ralph Lauren for making clothes in bigger dude sizes for so long.
Starting point is 02:08:54 And, like, you could dress well and, like, wear this shirt. And you're like, yeah, man, I'm fucking... Yeah, I just... Shout out to Ralph Lauren for wanting money. It's like, why is it so difficult for fashion houses to understand the real size that people actually exist in? Like, people's bodies are the size that they are. And they also have money. And they need to put clothes on the bodies.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Maybe do the clothes for the bodies. It's like, fucking drives me crazy. I hate. I just wish someone would explain it to him like that. They'd be like, oh's like fucking drives me crazy. I hate. I just wish someone would explain it to him like that. They'd be like, oh, I never thought about that. I'm a consultant. Heavy slimane. I want to be a consultant with like a,
Starting point is 02:09:33 like dressed up like those guys from the Geico commercials, the Neanderthals from the Geico commercials. Make clothes for bodies. Those are still funny. They really are. They still work. I love that choice, Ian. And also,
Starting point is 02:09:50 if a shirt is made of denim and it looks good with denim, that's a well-made product. That's well-made. That's a good idea. Just make sure it's not the exact same wash. It could be.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Well, you could be, actually. Yeah, you could. You could. You could. You could be in a tuxedo, but, you know. Pop open a couple buttons. Well, you could be, actually. Yeah, you could. You could be a Canadian tuxedo, but, you know. Pop open a couple buttons. Put a tinted glass in there. Put a tinted glass in there, baby.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Tinted glass. Those glasses would look great with a chambray shirt. It would. Yeah. Everybody look under your seats. I am going to go now with a fashion trend that is a staple of my warm weather wardrobe. And that is the visible tank. I'm saying tank as opposed to the, you know, the indelicate term, you know, the tank top. Yeah, the tank top.
Starting point is 02:10:42 You don't want to call it the WB. The wife beater. The WB. The wife beater, as it were. The undershirt. A slingshot. The undershirt. The undershirt tank. Slingshot. Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 02:10:52 So I guess the item would be that itself, but it is the unbuttoned button-up. Fireworks! How does that happen? Zoom is going off. The unbuttoned shirt with the visible tank top underneath. You throw a couple chains in there.
Starting point is 02:11:09 It looks good. It takes something that's maybe a little too formal and stuffy and gives it some like a casual sense of play. I'm going to go ahead and say in there. And I just love it. I think like that with a short sleeve button up shirt of linen or cotton or even chambray or whatever it is. I just really enjoy that look. And it's tucked into a higher waisted pant.
Starting point is 02:11:30 I like the traditional cut with the racer back. Has to be. It's nice. Yeah. We're not talking about the G unit ones. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Should we see a guy try to wear one of those? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 02:11:42 Only 50 Cent can wear that shirt. And even he really can't. Even I'm not, yeah, right? You're just like, I guess so. I'm not going to argue with you. Yeah, it looked insane. Those are crazy. I've never seen one in real life.
Starting point is 02:11:54 I'd like to touch one. I've seen a few in real life. It's nuts. I've seen a couple. It's weird. You're like, stop it. Also, like, almost, no, you have to be as buff as 50 Cent to almost get away with it. No, you can't just be a boy.
Starting point is 02:12:08 No, and I saw a lot of boys. Like a soft-shouldered boy. Yeah. Like, you better put football pads over that now, bro. You look nuts. Right now, dude. Yeah. So that's my pick.
Starting point is 02:12:22 I just love the visible the visible WB yeah you could call it a ribbed tank a ribbed tank and that's another thing that has throughout body types much like the chambray shirt and actually everything I picked but like
Starting point is 02:12:38 the entire journey where I'm like I still like them now I liked them then I liked them when I was even smaller I like they just just, it fucking works. David, time for your fourth pick. Love you, Eve. Okay, so are we, is this just clothing items or can I do a hairstyle? For sure, hairstyle, yes.
Starting point is 02:12:56 Oh, okay, great. I'm taking the Gumby. Yeah. Are you familiar with the Gumby? It's just like, I never had one. I wanted a high top fade when I was a kid. It just wasn't in the cards. But it's just like, as far one I wanted a high top fade when I was a kid it just wasn't in the cards but it's just like as far as like an intricate cause like I was just talking to my friend about this the other day for black
Starting point is 02:13:12 dudes it's really you kind of get your hair cut young and you run with it and there's not really a ton of moves that people like there are those guys who do that but for most of them like I've been getting a low fade since I was 7, 8 years old you know what i'm saying so it's like to see something like a gumby and just like how many different ways they had them and like yeah you seen like bobby browns
Starting point is 02:13:35 where it was crazy tilted it was just like a really wild cool hairstyle i always thought i always thought it kind of came back oh sorry to interrupt no no i just i always even as a kid i always thought it looked so cool it was such an interesting thing to do with hair yes and it's like uniquely two black men you know what i mean where it's like why like even the the you know there's the of course the the jufro right which whatever there was never a jew gumby there no, nobody else would curl your kinky hair. It's even tried. Was there a Jugambi? I don't know why that's so,
Starting point is 02:14:13 I don't know why that's so funny to me. What are your new neighbors like? Oh, look at Jugambi. Jugambi. They're from Jugambia. The kind of Jumbi also had a Grace Jones connotation. Grace Jones had that hairstyle for a second too.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. It's a nice trend because it has, it does have a lot of like, in between the parentheses of the Gumby hairstyle, there's like, you can be very conservative. You can be very Grace Jones.
Starting point is 02:14:39 You can be very. My mom had one for a little bit. She had a flat top for a little bit. I love when women have that hairstyle. Yeah. It's like, it's just like, it was just a really chic as fuck.
Starting point is 02:14:49 Usher had one like last year. Yeah. Yeah. New Orleans. Noel had the Gumby, uh, in the NBA a few years ago. I remember seeing,
Starting point is 02:14:56 I'm like, Oh cool. This is coming back. And then I'll, yeah, it's like, it's like a, it's a,
Starting point is 02:15:01 it's a dope. I mean, Jimmy Butler have one. I'm trying to, Jimmy Butler had a little one? Jimmy Butler has had every kind of hairstyle, but I don't know that he had the Gumby. The only problem with a hairstyle like this that I could foresee is that you would have a, it's like, it's a definitive choice. You didn't just like go to the barber and like do this by accident.
Starting point is 02:15:19 You know what I mean? Like it's obvious that you picked this haircut. And so anything you wear kind of has to hit a certain level of like intention. I don't think you can dress down with a Gumby for sure. Exactly. That'd be tough, right? You're like, yeah. You can't just be like, I just threw on some Uggs with my Gumby.
Starting point is 02:15:34 No, if you're wearing sweatpants, it's got to be like a fashion sweatpants. They're like. How hard is that? But you know what? It's a commitment to excellence. You know, it's a dedication. It's a commitment to excellence. It's a dedication. Which is why
Starting point is 02:15:47 my next pick actually would... Well, what's your morning like with a Gumby? Are you spending like half an hour in there? I think you just gotta pick it out. I think you gotta pick it out. I think you have to go to the barber frequently.
Starting point is 02:16:01 To keep it shaped. Yeah, because you can't have a lot of extraneous stuff popping out of your Gumby. I think Reitman kind of had a Jew Gumby. You're still trying to make the Jew Gumby happen. Who was it? John Turturro
Starting point is 02:16:18 and Barton Fink? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who am I thinking of? Who's the Ghostbusters? Harold Ramis? Harold Ramis. Yeah, yeah, Harold Ramis. Wait, Ivan Reitman. Who am I thinking of? Who's the Ghostbusters? Harold Ramis? Harold Ramis. Harold Ramis. Yeah, yeah, Harold Ramis. Wait, am I?
Starting point is 02:16:29 Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. You have to be. No, it's still not Harold Ramis. Who was the actor? A Ghostbuster actor? Who was the actor with the Gumby, man? Who had the Jew Gumby? In Ghostbusters?
Starting point is 02:16:39 Siri. I might be, I might be way. Not a lot of heads in Ghostbusters. I don't want to Google Jew Gumby just because I'm out of my depth. I'm out of my depth. Let's move on. I got so scared because Siri is actually answering my question. Is that
Starting point is 02:16:53 who had a Drew Gumby? And Siri's like, I've been writing. Alice, you are now on a watch list. You know who had a nice Gumby was Reggie Miller. Yeah. Yeah. He did for a long time too. Before he tookgie Miller. Yeah. Yeah. He did for a long time, too. Yeah. Before he took it down.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Yeah. That's how you know it probably takes a lot of work, because he eventually was like, all right, I got to get out of the Gumby. Yeah, he's like, I'm trying to win a championship. Yeah. Alice, time for your fourth pick. Okay.
Starting point is 02:17:18 How many do I have left, by the way? Four and five, and five is a speed round. Okay, so for this, this i'm gonna go with um so i do have one more i'm gonna go with bowling shirt bowling shirt i feel like it's it's uh you know it came back in a big way in the 90s during like the swingers time and i kind of pooh-poohed it at the time and it's come back huge now and it's uh and there's and then now that it's back uh for third time there's like a lot of versions you can have access to like a vintage so you can get accessible
Starting point is 02:17:57 when you can go to savers and find one you can go to wherever or you can get like a really nice trees van noten and taste you know seven,000 for a shirt if you want to. Yeah. If you need to like hide some money for some reason. I like it because it's unisex too. It's just like, it's genderless. It just can go anywhere. You can wear open over a t-shirt, which I love.
Starting point is 02:18:19 Or if you get a really big one and you're me, you can wear it as a dress. Do you belt it or you go in full? No, you wouldn't belt that. I wouldn't belt it because if you belt a t-shirt dress and it's just, it's a giant thing, then you risk belting it and then having the edges show your butthole.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Right, right, right, right. The edge creep. The whole thing, there's no hole up there yet. Then you'd be doing a peplum, so you'd have to wear a different pant underneath, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of the easy big t-shirt dress. It's a bowling shirt. Are we calling that any button
Starting point is 02:18:49 up short sleeve as a bowling shirt? No, I don't have to have it. Vertical stripes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Vertical stripes or pieces of flare of some kind. That's what I'm thinking. There's this company Double Rainbow. Here, I'll Google it and send it to you.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Sorry about my keyboard, by the way. It's like... It's Isaac's problem. I know. I'm sorry, Isaac. Much like the runtime of this podcast. I am dying over here. I'm dying. What are you going to complain more about?
Starting point is 02:19:19 How you got eight hours of sleep and now you get to listen to your good friends? I've been wanting this one for a while. It is amazing that I just get to laugh for a little bit. It's pretty fun. We're amazing that we get to have you join us for this.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Period. We're amazing. You should just stop there. We're amazing. I didn't even think about them in different patterns. I was only thinking about the traditional. I don't know what about them in different patterns. I was only thinking about the traditional. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:19:48 I don't know what else to call it. Cause it's not like it's, it's camp shirts too. Right. And it's veering into the bowling league I've ever seen. I'll tell you that. That's well, this isn't really a bowling shirt.
Starting point is 02:19:59 It's veering into Hawaiian shirt territory, but the difference is, I think is the Hawaiian shirt buttons up all the way to the top, whereas the camp shirt slash bowling shirt has this open collar, I think. I can't normally get to the top. Any kind of traditionally men's
Starting point is 02:20:16 but a little bit wild coloring type camp type shirt with short sleeves. Super into those. And wear it with the gloves. Excellent pick. Sean, time for your fourth and then your final pick. Super into those. And wear it with the gloves. Yeah. Excellent pick. Sean, time for your fourth and then your final picks
Starting point is 02:20:28 as a Serpentine Draft. Isaac's dying. Just keep that in mind. This has always been one of my favorite looks. Pretty basic, but long sleeve shirt with a short sleeve shirt over it.
Starting point is 02:20:37 Oh, I love that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's gorgeous. Yeah, it went away for a long time and it's back again. And I always, I love it. I like a long-sleeve shirt under the short-sleeve. You three-quarters sleeve the long-sleeve, you know.
Starting point is 02:20:51 The long underwear under there? I never really did the thermals. I'd always just find like a long-sleeve T-shirt that I, whatever. I'd wear it forever. A lot. I did the thermals, yeah. Thermals. Yeah, I loved it.
Starting point is 02:21:03 I took a swing the other night and I, I did that long sleeve under short sleeve. And as soon as I left the house, I'm like, idiot, everyone's going to notice. Everyone's going to look at you like an asshole. And so I put a hoodie on over it.
Starting point is 02:21:13 And I was like, nobody knew that I made the swing. I need to like call you separately about this problem. Yeah. Yeah. Like taking fashion. I'm, I worry.
Starting point is 02:21:22 I swear if it's anything other than like a hoodie or a t-shirt and then jeans, I feel like I'm, you know, Liberace or something. He put on a brown jacket. Like not even, like I don't even know
Starting point is 02:21:35 the right way to describe it. Like a brown kind of coach's jacket. I'm between like a UPS jacket and a coach's jacket almost. It's like. And you thought that was too much dip on your chip.
Starting point is 02:21:45 You were a little bit worried. You looked phenomenal. Thank you, I was extremely worried. Do you know what Sean would look really good in that he would never wear, but I think we should all try to get him to wear it. Is a men's boiler suit. I'm just saying this is an Alex Mill
Starting point is 02:22:01 jumpsuit. I got one of these for my boyfriend Garrett. He's adorable in it. Whoa, that would be cool. I'm just saying this is an Alex Mill jumpsuit. I got one of these for my boyfriend, Garrett. Wow. He's adorable in it. Whoa, that would be cool. It's so cool for men to wear. I love jumpsuits because you fucking look intentional and fashionable, but you're not like a fashion victim because you're obviously,
Starting point is 02:22:19 I obviously didn't spend too much time on my outfit because I have a shirt and top at the same time, dude. Shirt and top, same time. Couldn't spend that much same time, dude. Shirt and top, same time. Couldn't spend that much time, could I? Shirt and top, same time. You'll be ready for a while because that will never see my skin. It's happening. Come on, you'd be the best comedian to rock it since Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 02:22:36 You would be. Kyle went through his jumper phase like a year ago. Sam, when we were young, got somehow sponsored by Bulwark's brand coveralls for like a summer no surprises there yeah yeah then he cut them off and made
Starting point is 02:22:52 them coveralls it was insane he cut them off? no he cut like the bottoms off I thought he was like I'm done no it was like a coverall short thing he had going on. A jumpsuit cut off?
Starting point is 02:23:06 That sounds... It was a weird summer. Your final pick? Last pick is basically Aaliyah, but I'm picking sports bra with an open button up over it. That was always like, I don't know. That was always just amazing to me. When I was a kid, I'd be like, man, if I... I don't know if it wouldn't
Starting point is 02:23:26 look insane for me. I just... It was like, that looks awesome. Yes, sure. It was attractive. But it also just looked cool to me. Like super, super cool looking. So that. Yeah, she looked awesome. Yeah, she did. That was definitely a look like Jade and SWV.
Starting point is 02:23:41 But Aaliyah was like... I think of Aaliyah and that's what pops in is like joe boxer sports bra denim shirt over it open and then just like being big tommy hill flicker jeans and then the locs and the rag to go with it i mean it was like a whole her everything she did and the tims i was like yeah man she knew that girl if you saw her and you asked her out and she turned you down in a brutal, brutal way, you'd go, thank you. Please. I didn't mean to bother you.
Starting point is 02:24:11 I'll cut you off right there. I wouldn't ask her out. Yeah, I would. I'd just turn around. Yeah, because you realize that she doesn't, she's not going to give you the time of day. You don't want to, you'd almost be like happy to be turned down by that. It's like that thing in a movie where like a tough guy beats up like 15 people and there's one guy left and he throws himself off the bridge into the water. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:34 I'd cross the street and be like, I can't be on this side. You'd just see her and you'd be like, if you end up near her enough, you'd just be like, I apologize. I understand. Sorry. Sorry. I'm trying out the jumper. It's first day. Your final pick.
Starting point is 02:24:48 My final pick? Big ass coat. Yeah. Big ass coat. It's just real easy. It's simple. I brought, I have two. Again, I'm going to run after I do my spiel.
Starting point is 02:24:57 I'm going to run and show you the coats. I should have had them next to me. I'm sorry. But I have two really big denim. It's like a chore coat, but just really giant. It makes me think of when I used to work at Anna Sui, we'd get these like tons and tons of Japanese customers. And they were often like young 20 year old women, Japanese women. And they always wore oversized clothes. And it blew my mind because I'm like, you're short like me, like you're not really tall
Starting point is 02:25:25 and you're rocking these oversized looks and they look great. They look really good. I soon discovered that like most of them were flat chested and I have D cups and it still doesn't look good on me, but big ass coat, I can rock. And so, and anybody can wear a coat with exaggerated oversized feature.
Starting point is 02:25:42 It's a denim, it's a, you could do a khaki chore coat in an oversized, but also especially like a really cool puffer also works. A hoodie. A hoodie with a chore jacket over it, but it's all big. Here, I'll get it. You guys talk.
Starting point is 02:25:58 In the meantime, David, do you want to make your final pick? My final pick is, tell me if this works. It's like, it's more of a time thing, but do you remember like I want to make your final pick uh my final pick is tell me if this works it's like it's more of a time thing but do you remember like like i want to say like oh four oh three uh cameron and okay cameron inspired it he's rocking a purple giant chore coat it looks awesome uh i was gonna say yeah cameron inspired, but I'm talking again, pink for dudes. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 02:26:27 I mean, that was Cameron. And then all of a sudden it hit, and then all your friends, and I remember they had like, you'd see like losers and like real men wear pink t-shirts and shit like that. Yeah. But like, because it like went all the way down to Kohl's. Like it was, but it was like our whole, our youth,
Starting point is 02:26:43 it was like, we grew up with that. Like pink is for boys, blah, blah, blah, blah for boys blah blah blah and then out of nowhere cameron who i think to this day for many of his cultural innovations came out and then everybody was wearing pink and it was crazy it like affected me i was wearing pink i was like yeah he's doing pinwheel pink hats and you're like cameron Where did you get it? Yeah. Where do you even get it? Where would you even buy it?
Starting point is 02:27:08 Are you dying them? Yeah. He had a pink race rover. First of all, that jacket is a triumph. You look fantastic. It's so easy. But pink for men. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Shout out to Cameron in general. Just a salute to him on this Fashion Trends podcast. Everything you've done for us. I'm not drafting, but also that very, that's almost seemingly starched bandana that Jewels wore. Yeah, like it kept its shape. Yeah, like on its own. Time for my final pick, the final pick of the draft.
Starting point is 02:27:41 And I'm going to take dad shoes. That becoming a trend. New balances. The new balances. Those Reebok. The Adidas. Even the Adidas Sambas to an extent. Are Sambas dad shoes?
Starting point is 02:27:57 I think they're virgin. I think they're kind of rode that wave. Those Reeboks that they just came back out with. Also, I want to say I don't know if you guys remember. I was wearing Sambas like six, seven years ago. You were way ahead of the wave. Pretty early on the Samba train. I remember you were,
Starting point is 02:28:11 you got like five pairs of Reeboks about six years ago too. And you were like Reeboks. And now they're like fully back. It was wild how that worked. Like the way they popped back up is I think Gucci made a Samba and then Harry Styles started wearing them. And then all these dudes who want to dress like Harry Styles started wearing Sambas.
Starting point is 02:28:27 They're like sold out, right? Like you can't even get them in there. Because I liked them because they were hella cheap. Like when I was wearing them, you could get them for like 75 bucks. Hell yeah. Once Harry's wearing it, it's over. It's over.
Starting point is 02:28:39 Both the Harry Styles, Harry Lambert combo. Can't get it now. Can't get it. Harry and the Hendersons. But the dude, Harry and the Hendersons too. Yeah, Harry Lambert combo. Can't get it now. Can't get it. Harry and the Hendersons. But the dude, Harry and the Hendersons. Yeah, Harry Giles III. Dad shoes, new balance, just comfy. How that kind of became, like, I don't know if I just became cooler with it or, and it,
Starting point is 02:28:57 but also no, like cool designers started working and I'm like, Salahe Bembere and Joe Fresh Goods. They do really cool. There's a lot of really cool. Also, people have been on it. DC has been on it. Like, that's their shit for years and years and years. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Absolutely. Like, when we went to DC last time, remember, I went to PG Plaza with Jamel. And they had New Balances I've never even seen on the internet. Conversely, I was just in Portland. And I'm, like, in the market for some new balances right now. Ofer. Couldn't find it. Like the Foot Locker had like a few pairs,
Starting point is 02:29:30 but like if you go to these resale shops or anything like that, nada, nothing. They got nothing for you. Yeah. You're not trying to get Foot Locker new balances, you know? No, not necessarily. I just got some pink ones that go crazy. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:29:43 I wanted those 993 grays, but like the classic cool gray. And I couldn't find them. Anyway, that is the final pick. I linked a picture of Tracee Ellis Ross real quick in the Acne Studios. Whoa. Ugly shoes. She's my style. I mean, she's like the greatest.
Starting point is 02:30:00 Those are grandpa shoes. Those aren't even dad shoes. I was going to say. She wears really, really, really like ugly whatever, the ugly shoe trend. She wears it a lot. And these shoes she put on my radar and I've been wanting them for so long and I wonder if it's
Starting point is 02:30:14 time. I wonder if it might be time. It's time. Just you saying that. Just you saying that, Ian, it might be time for me to finally bite the bullet. This is your sign. We'll see. Isaac Lee, what is your pick? I'm going to go with all black,
Starting point is 02:30:29 which is something that you guys have seen as a staple of my wardrobe. I've been basically dressing in all black since I was 18 when I moved to New York. Love fashion. You showed everyone in Phoenix all black for the first time. I've never seen you wear color. Yeah, I rarely wear color.
Starting point is 02:30:45 I think I've seen you wear like a white t-shirt before. I have my big red clipper starter jacket. That's usually my statement kind of jacket. I have a few colored items in my wardrobe, but it's 80% black. Yeah, that's all I've ever seen you wear, top to bottom. It looks good on Asian people
Starting point is 02:31:06 because we have black hair. He said it. I said it. You guys can agree. I'm like, I don't know what's going on. Sean's still freaking out from Chocolate City. I call DC Chocolate City, but I'm not going to say anything.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Everything that's going on with Asian people? Is that what I'm supposed to say? Am I supposed to say? Yeah, I think it's like, and so it? Is that what I'm supposed to say? Am I supposed to say? And so it should. And what you said, correct. And I love to give you space to say such things, which are true. As we all agree.
Starting point is 02:31:35 As you believe. And I, too. I will say that as a people, you do tend to be... No, I'm joking. I thought you were... I was like, oh, no. I got him.
Starting point is 02:31:50 I got him. Now that I have the room. To recap, Sean, you went first. And again, I encourage the listeners to think of this as one outfit. I drafted me watching an Aaliyah video is what I drafted. Gigantic color blocking pants,
Starting point is 02:32:06 starter jackets, looney tunes, long sleeve under a short sleeve, and a sports bra with an open button up. Alice, you went second. You took gloves, silver jeans, tinted shades, bowling shirts, and big ass coats. Which I feel like that might be a
Starting point is 02:32:21 outfit you get off in the next couple days just in general. You showed us every part of it. And the only thing is I didn't pick shoes. So I'm just going to steal Ian's dad shoes. That's our pick. David, you went third. You took shoulder pads, the fedora, rave pants, the Gumby haircut, and pink for dudes. That's a look.
Starting point is 02:32:40 And frankly, I can't wait to see. You see that guy coming up to you? Yeah. I can't decide if it's a red flag or a green flag. So it's like, I just stand still, stock still, hope he doesn't see me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be Demolition Man right there.
Starting point is 02:32:54 I'm wearing that when you record your special. I'm going to be in the crowd. You'll be the first Jew Gumby. That feels like a guy who's definitely an alien trying to pretend to be human. Yeah. He saw the Rolodex of all clothes and was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to get salutations. Hello, fellow humans.
Starting point is 02:33:17 You can't have any facial hair if you do that. Yeah. No, I'll go clean. I'll go clean for sure. You can't have any. I might shave my head. I might pick my eyebrows. I guess I have to have a You can't have any. I might shave my head. I might pick my eyebrows. I guess I have a Gumby.
Starting point is 02:33:27 But I'm picking my eyebrows and my mustache. I went throwback jerseys, basketball shoes as fashion. The Jordan one, the chambray shirt, the visible tank top and dad shoes. I mean, it's a really you're a classic man. That's a classic man.
Starting point is 02:33:43 Classic. Yeah. I'm an ecstasy dealer. you're a classic man. That's a classic man. Classic man. Yeah. I'm an ecstasy dealer. We got a couple of those here. We want to hear your picks. Send us up at All Fantasy Pod on Twitter, allfantasypodcast at gmail.com. Shout out to everyone on the All Fantasy Everything Patreon. Thank you for holding us down.
Starting point is 02:34:04 A place where you will be able to get exclusive tickets to that tour. Also, you're going to get all those live shows on the Patreon. That's where all those are going to go. All those live shows. The first bite of the apple as far as tickets go. Bonus episodes, mailbags, auction drafts, plus Isaac's collection of tasteful nudes. That's right. All black. All black.
Starting point is 02:34:20 All white. All black and white. Shout out to Super Producer Isaac on the ones and twos. Thank you for sitting through a two and a half hour podcast, Isaac. It was my pleasure. It black and white. Shout out to super producer Isaac on the ones and twos. Thank you for sitting through a two and a half hour podcast, Isaac. Thank you. It was my pleasure. It'll be shorter. I love fashion.
Starting point is 02:34:30 Yeah, I like hearing about fashion. I'm so glad. Isaac is a fashion play for sure. Yeah, I can tell. Shout out to Saint Sue Carmel. Shout out to Frankie Ocean. Shout out to Sid the Dude. Shout out to Haji Beats.
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