All Fantasy Everything - Saturday Morning Cartoons (w/ Mina Kimes, Sean Jordan, David Gborie)
Episode Date: March 30, 2023Good morning, kiddos! We're taking a trip down memory lane and drafting our favorite Saturday morning cartoons. So grab a bowl of cereal, get cozy in your PJs, and join us for some nostalgic ...fun!  Episode Guest: Mina Kimes @minakimes IG: @mina_kimes Podcast: The Mina Kimes Show featuring Lenny  Support the show! Join the All Fantasy Everything Patreon for ad-free episodes, mailbags, and video pre-rolls. Check it all out at www.patreon.com/AllFantasy.  Follow the Good Vibes Gang on social media: Ian Karmel @IanKarmel IG: @IanKarmel Sean Jordan @SeanSJordan IG: @SeancougarmelonJordan David Gborie IG: @Coolguyjokes87 Mars Mel @MarsMel IG: @Mars.Mel Venmo: @marissa-melnyk Show Email: allfantasypodcast@gmail.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
This is All Fantasy Everything, the podcast where we fantasy draft anything and everything from the world of pop culture.
On today's episode, we're drafting Saturday morning cartoons.
Our guest today is a sports journalist and co-host of NFL Live on ESPN.
She hosts her own podcast, The Mina Kimes Show, featuring Lenny.
It's Mina Kimes sans Lenny.
I'm your host, Ian Carmel, and joining me as always are my friends, comedians, Sean
Jordan and David Borey.
Let's get into it. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything,
the podcast that is having trouble with its accountant right now.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I'm sorry to hear it.
And we're trying to work through it.
Listen, I'm not going to put him on the Summer Jam screen. We're trying to work through it listen i'm not gonna like
put them on the summer jam screen while we're we're gonna find out i think that's what just
happened i'm not dropping i'm not dropping a name or anything i'm just saying that's big
accountant problem it's it's tough to focus on something when there's something looming i get it
like you try to you try to do this but there's something in the back of mind you're just like
can we just figure it out real quick? It should take 10 seconds.
When you say something looming, do you mean like a tapestry being made?
No, there's a ghost behind you.
A looming ghost?
Yeah.
It's only on my Zoom, I think.
Your boom?
B-O-O-M?
My Zoom.
Oh, boom.
Like boo, like ghost.
It didn't work.
It didn't work.
It didn't work.
That's an October joke. That's an October joke. work it didn't work that's an october joke that's
an october joke don't feel bad that's an october joke it's march i don't know what i'm doing i don't
know what i'm doing i'm way over i'll tell you what you're not doing is wearing green either
one of you mina's got mina's got green on wait do you have green unintentionally until you pointed
it out didn't even occur to me i just don't want to i just don't want to be like a green person
like i don't want to i understand exactly what person. I don't want to. I understand exactly what you mean.
For the listeners, we are recording on St. Patrick's Day.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I am.
I'm green.
I got green socks on, green underwear, green shirt.
Your name's Sean Patrick Jordan.
I'm going to make some green eggs tonight.
I already asked if we could have breakfast for dinner.
I'm going to make green eggs.
I'm excited.
It's fun. You just put a little food coloring in there and they're green.
We also learned before you got
presents on St. Patrick's Day
as a kid. So if that was me, I would
still celebrate it as an adult too.
Definitely. It would be a treasured holiday.
When was the last time you checked the mail
and expected like a birthday card with
some money in it?
Never. As an adult?
Yeah, as an adult.
When the last time you checked, when you were like...
Do you remember it?
Because I was old.
I was probably 30 when I was still expecting to get a couple bucks.
30?
The truth is, as long as my grandparents were alive,
the dark answer...
Damn.
Yeah, that's a grandparent's thing they call me the dark answer
when i play trivia the dark answer they call you that on the basketball court too they do
yeah the dark question shows up when we just stand across the court and stare at each other
you play yeah you play like in what the undertaker walked to the ring in right like a big cowl
not easy to hoop in but you can find me in the paint if you want to.
If you're really looking, I'll be down there.
You also got Easter presents and 4th of July presents.
Just so we can paint the entire picture for everybody.
4th of July presents is unhinged.
Valentine's Day presents, I would get Halloween presents.
Thanksgiving presents, I would get May Day.
We would do May Day.
What?
We would not get May Day presents.
Not presents.
For the first of May?
But so when I say presents, I mean like she would get me like a basket and then it would
have little presents in it and then like some money.
Probably have like 10 bucks every time.
Were you an only child?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so my mom had a couple kids before me, but I didn't find out about them until I was 18.
So I grew up an only child,
but I had two brothers that I didn't know about for a long time.
But regardless, yeah, I grew up an only child,
and I think that's why I got spoiled.
But I didn't act spoiled.
On May Day.
What were your May Day presents, though?
Was it like a picture of Laborly?
Was it like a Eugene Debs-shaped chocolate?
There was nothing that ever informed me as to what mayday actually was i still don't know
i just know it's the first of may it's a pole right everyone dances around a pole
is that mayday yeah it was like a fertility festival and then next was a uh and then it
became like a labor holiday right it was a fertility festival well you know like a spring it's spring it's may
yeah like mid-samar kind of that kind of thing you would dress up in a big flower uh outfit and
use every part of your face oh okay okay i forget there's a quote that dana likes to bring i forget
who said it but it was about florence pew and like uh it's she uses her face like she's not
saving it for later which i think is perfect
she's such a good face actor you little women too just all the different crying faces
shout out to florence this is a pro florence pew podcast it is it's also it's a pro saint
patrick's day podcast even though that happened long in the past from when this drops and it's
a pro sean jordan podcast sean is jordan Twitter. Sean Cougar Mel Jordan on Instagram.
Sean, coming to a city near you soon?
You know, I'm going to be,
it's funny you should bring it up, Ian.
I'm going to be in Fort Collins, Colorado,
April 7th and 8th.
I heard people are going.
You're going to be alone in that.
You don't think anyone's going.
Mina, are you going to be in Fort Collins
on Easter weekend?
Yeah, crazy.
I'm going.
Oh shit, you're going?
Oh, okay, there you go.
I'll tell my mom to send two Easter presents.
One for me and one for you.
So we can both get an Easter present.
But anyway, that's that.
Sorry, I got a phone call during that.
It was Hollywood saying,
we're ready for Sean Jordan.
Yeah.
My account did not fuck up. The time is now.
My account did not fuck up.
My insurance is okay.
Everything is hunky-dory.
Do you feel bad about mentioning him at the top now?
No.
You can edit that out?
Absolutely.
No.
Because all we did here was take the lesser on a journey.
You know what I mean?
We started.
We were beginning, middle, and end.
I don't think that was on.
Oh, wait.
It was.
You did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what if he was listening at the beginning?
Got so angry.
Yeah.
Didn't hear him redeemed.
They got into their car and drove to.
I don't I don't know.
I don't.
Torrance or wherever my it is.
My accountant is.
And now they're like sitting out there just waiting.
Like like taking a walk.
Like, I can't believe when I first when i first moved to la i
didn't want uber drivers thinking that i wasn't from there so i remember one time you you were
you were at some party and i wanted to leave and i i just had to so i had to get home in this uber
driver he asked where i was from he goes born and raised in la i go now i'm from torrents
i said it and i can't I can't remember
it's from
Boogie Nights
Mark Wahlberg lives in
Torrance
Boogie Nights
and that's how I knew
where I was like
Torrance
it's gotta be around here
that's the roll of a dice
because either there's
no more follow up questions
or there's some
very specific
follow up questions
so you must know
you must know
James James
where'd you go to high school
James James
I worked at a P.F. Chang's in Torrance at the Del Amo Fashion Center the first time I lived in L.A.
I was nice with the sauce.
I'm going to answer the question before you even ask it.
Well, that was at your other jobs at the Del Amo Fashion Center where you were nice with the sauce too, right?
I worked at every store at the Del Amo Fashion Center.
I painted with a lot of brushes at the Del Amo Fashion Center.
Guest jeans, I moved them.
I moved units at the guest jeans store.
Fort Collins, April 7th and 8th.
There he is.
David Borey is here.
Coolguyjoe87 on Instagram.
Not on Twitter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A decision that looks smarter and smarter every time I tweet.
Is it going down over there?
I just, I got.
No one seems to be having fun from what I can tell.
It's the worst.
I participated in a series of videos where, like, I found Bigfoot for the Portland Trailblazers.
It's like their new mascot.
That's fun, though.
They have, like, a Bigfoot mascot.
It's very silly.
Oh, I know.
It's for the kids.
Yeah.
And I get tagged in all these, like, tweets, you know, because they they're like at Ian Carmel, help us find Bigfoot.
And then like every tweet is like fire Chauncey Billups.
Tell Jody to tell the team.
Tell Jody to tell the team.
Fire Chauncey Billups.
This sucks.
And I'm tagged in like all of these.
Ian Carmel's not funny.
Ian Carmel's not funny.
Tell them.
Like everything that like it made me reconsider how I tweet where I'm like I'm never tweeting at an airline again.
I'm never doing any of this stuff. Marissa, cut that out and save it for me reconsider how I tweet, where I'm like, I'm never tweeting in an airline again. I'm never doing any of this stuff.
Marissa, cut that out and save it for me, please.
I'm never tweeting in an airline.
I promise I'm never tweeting in an airline again.
It felt like being in an overturned umbrella in the middle of the ocean in the middle of a hurricane.
It was so terrible.
That's never happened to you before?
I've been in it before, but this was like, it's happened to me quite a few times.
I've seen you mix it up.
I follow you.
Yeah, I throw some.
Absolutely.
Well, that's the problem.
I take a hit and then all of a sudden I'm in the boxing match and that's the problem.
You know what I mean?
Like I need to get, I need to be more passive, but I'm so, I feel like my blood pressure go up.
I get like, I don't know.
Like I feel like I blood pressure go up i get like i i don't know like i feel like
i'm in the rain problem with twitter is it's like you're on yelp but you're the restaurant
and nobody goes on to yelp to be like i loved this place right the audience was terrific
it's just a place for everyone to tell you how much you suck perfectly put that's all it is
that's perfect how do you deal with it you get it like to magnitudes that
i can't even holidays well the thing is mine is like a yelp but it's like you're maybe you know
like nice restaurants like a little small hipster spot yeah i'm like mcdonald's uh so
that's kind of self-aggrandizing in some ways. So I apologize for that. But my comments are just fucking insane.
They just have nothing to do.
Like, I'll just be like, hey, here's a cute picture of my dog.
And somebody will be like, why are you so hard on Aaron Rodgers?
And you guys talk about him 24-7.
And we all take three months to go.
And I'm like, I don't remember that.
You know, it's just.
Does it kind of, does it like fall into the echo chamber after a while
like do you stop yeah i just don't see most of i probably see like one percent of it yeah
it actually does do a good job of kind of filtering out some of the more unhinged stuff
but every now and then it trickles in yeah yeah i can't i can't i can't i can't do it i can't i
can't i can't deal with the internet i'm'm going to start tweeting nice things to both of you all the time.
I'm just going to randomly tweet nice stuff.
You think it's going to make it through all this Bigfoot hate?
I'm going to put a little period before it so everyone will see it.
That's how you do it, right?
I can't just put an at.
I have to put a period or something before it so everybody sees it.
So I'm going to be like, hey, and then I'll say some nice stuff.
I'm going to do it today.
Later today, randomly.
You better.
I will.
That'll feel great. Yeah. I'm excited. This is going to be a nice stuff. I'm going to do it today. Thank you. Later today, randomly. You better. I will. That'll feel great.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
This is going to be a good day.
I'm excited.
It's a St. Patrick's Day miracle.
Every day from now until we near Fort Collins.
With a huge crowd, bro.
Oh, hey.
Huge crowd.
There he goes.
Look at this.
It's probably just so.
Look at how much fun we're having.
David Boyle, where can people see your unique comedy stylings?
It's not that unique.
It's tried and true.
Cover a lot of people have talked about being immigrants.
What does this come out?
March 30th.
March 30th.
So thank you.
You just saw me in San Francisco last week.
Now this weekend, come see me in dallas at
the dallas comedy club and then next weekend see me in anchorage alaska for the before you die
festival and then we got some other dates coming up but for now just you know do those kiss each
other on the face for sure you know minicons is here whoa not yet watch Royal Crackers
first three episodes streaming on April
HBO Max April 3rd
and then watch the whole thing because I'm in all the
episodes that's right
that's goddamn right
and now Mina Kimes is here
Mina where
at Mina Kimes on Twitter
yes and I love hearing about Aaron Rodgers
so that's
everybody tweet about Aaron Rodgers
to Mina Kimes
no matter how much of a non-secular reply it is
go ahead and send those tweets
let's get them through
I'm going to do weird stuff like put Aaron Rodgers in more movies
Mina Kimes put Aaron Rodgers in movies
that's what I'm going to say
I don't think he's ever been in a movie
I don't think so either I think he could movie. I don't think he is either.
I don't think so either.
I think he could do it.
I think he could do.
I think he'd be all right.
He's good at commercials.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody tweet about Bubby Brister to Mina Kimes.
Let's go ahead and get some old. Obviously, I know who Bubby Brister is, but for everybody who doesn't, Bubby Brister is.
It's an old NFL football player whose name hit me for some reason.
Was he a leather helmet guy
no not that old okay but let's everybody tweet angry opinions about why a tittle
to mina kimes let's change it up all right r.i.p r.i.p to y.a. tittle r.i.p y.a. young adult tittle
that's right young adult tittle mina where uh first of, how are you doing? I'm good.
Hell yeah.
I'm great, actually.
We were talking before.
It was five years since my last appearance.
Isn't that crazy?
Nothing has changed in the world.
No, absolutely not.
Everything's the same.
It's gotten better, if anything.
Yeah, I got a daughter.
That's changed, too.
You do have a daughter.
I have a daughter.
Well, you'll be depriving of any sort of like a tooth fairy
related fun we're not talking about that talking about me ball of wax you're on uh you're on the
television program nfl live a popular and widely viewed television program you have a podcast the
show featuring lenny is there anywhere else people can uh check out your work your wares um i've been trying to do more tiktoks
i don't really understand it though i think i think i'm bad at it yeah such a mystery to me
it's loud over there i started a profile just to have one and i have 70 followers or something i've
put one video up i'm like i don't know about all this. There you go. I hate how when you open it, it starts making noise immediately.
Immediately.
That's why it got out of there.
It's too loud.
It's like, remember when MySpace, when you would go to people's profiles and they'd play
a song that they had, which is wild in retrospect that we all did that.
That's how I feel whenever I open the app.
And sometimes I'm trying to open it quietly, like I'm in a public bathroom maybe.
And it opens and it's like, ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da. And I'm whenever I open the app. And sometimes I'm trying to open it quietly, like I'm in a public bathroom, maybe. And it opens and it's like,
ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da.
And I'm like, oh!
Yeah.
Or that woman's TikTok voice where it's like,
this college student thought he was going to.
And it's just like so loud and clear.
Yeah.
It's jarring.
So loud.
It feels like, it's like in war movies
when they're like sitting on a
plane and then all of a sudden they open the back and it's like all right we're jumping like that
kind of thing and it's a meat you're like immediately in it's the social media equivalent
of it feels like reading a bathroom wall to me yeah like it's so fast some of it is an offensive
yeah it's intense such a washed such a washed incredibly washed my back hurts i'm just gonna throw that
in i'll take you i'll take you we are eating into my nap time i'll tell you that i'm going
to a chiropractor literally you are you're going to a chiropractor after this complaining about
your account you dusty old bastard accountant chiropractor later on i might even i might email
podiatrists just to see what's up,
just to see what the mood is like.
I went to a Ja Rule concert last week.
I'm swimming in it.
Wow.
How was Ja?
He was exactly like he wanted to be.
It was amazing.
All hits.
What are you talking about?
Did you fall in love?
Yeah, everybody did.
That was what we all went there for.
It was Mace for some reason. Sure. Ja Rule, Ashanti, Fat Joe. That was what we all went there for. It was Mace for some reason.
Sure.
Ja Rule, Ashanti, Fat Joe.
That guy Lloyd was there.
It was a great time.
Throwing it out there.
Mina, you're invited to October 17th, Portland, Oregon.
Nas and Wu-Tang Clan at the Moda Center.
Just saying.
I'm just saying.
Wow.
You're the only one who doesn't have to travel, though, for that.
That might be something that is in there.
It just so happens they're going to be in Portland. Who's to say I have to travel though for that that might be something that is in there it just so happens
they're gonna be in portland who's to say i have to travel across town just saying just saying
well we're all gonna go i think i think all four of us can sort of commit to that right now for
sure i'll get the tickets done great uh my name is ian carmel at ian carmel on twitter at ian
carmel on instagram at ian carmel on tK as well, where I have posted six times,
each of them communicating only that I clearly do not understand what Tik
TOK is for.
Oh,
so you're not even posting clips.
You're like,
I was doing,
I did like a silly voice in one of them.
I did like a funny sign.
I thought I saw.
And then,
and then I'm like,
okay,
I don't get, I don't get this.
I don't.
Are you getting traction though?
No.
It would be kind of tight just to do a hell of videos about how you don't understand how TikTok works.
We had Charlie D'Amelio on the show on the late, late show.
And I was like, this will be my, a good way for me to join TikTok.
And I just took like a TikTok of her walking out to the couch thinking like this will blow up because anything involving a D'Amelio cyst is going to blow up.
Like 16 views.
Like nothing.
Nowhere.
Absolutely.
I'm terrible at it.
Apparently you have to post like three times a day for the algorithm to like favor you.
That's what my wife was telling me.
She's like very good at TikTok.
So you have to be like on there.
That's the other thing I don't like is the algorithm is like a mirror you don't want to look at, right?
Because it's – so a lot of mine are just videos about how to be good on TikTok.
So I'm watching TikTok.
I use all these videos being like, you suck at this.
But then they're still feeding me because clearly i'm
watching them so it's a reminder of my own thirst and fertility at the same time hate it it's like
it's like a gym that has mirrors on every wall where you're like there's no way i can't see how
bad i am i don't need every angle damn it i hate sometimes i like the mirror at the gym
you don't know if i'm just curling. You can wink at yourself.
It's kind of fun.
Get yourself to 10.
You can come see me in Denver, Colorado at Comedy Works, June 22nd, 23rd, 24th.
I think those are the dates.
If not, they're somewhere around there.
Buy tickets to it.
I did stand up last night, and I reminded myself that I'm good at it.
So scoop those tickets while you can listen to
all fantasy everything watch the late late show of which there are when this comes out uh merely
three more weeks of so get it in while you can i guess four more weeks but like uh yeah check it
out and be excellent to one another now we are gathered here today not only to talk about me
lifting weights in the mirror at the gym just sort sort of giving myself a casual wink, having a great time,
but to fantasy draft Saturday morning cartoons,
a treasured institution that I don't even think exists anymore.
Do they not have like a Saturday morning blog?
Wow.
Yeah.
Not that I could see.
They don't,
right?
Yeah.
Cause it's not,
you know,
not a lot of like,
I don't think kids are getting
up and watching like tv tv too much right they're watching nfl live well yeah of course they do
clearly yeah that's how they find out santa isn't real wait wait wait wait wait why don't kids is
it because kids have to go to like mandarin class or at the end now like what is that
helicopter parents are like yes having them to
learn mandarin robotics and coding what is how what is helicopter parent is that good or bad
bad i can never it's bad yeah that's that's where you're like hovering
yes okay all right and like like uh micromanaging every little thing
the one person with a kid i'm like you know the video of the woman getting airlifted where she spins
around so many times?
It doesn't even work.
That's a classic
helicopter parent.
That's the kind of helicopter parent I'd be.
It makes me think of that guy, Helicopter from
Anne 1. Do you remember that guy?
Did you guys watch Anne 1?
I did.
Yeah.
Is this weird?
No, no.
R.I.P. Escalade?
No, I watched it. Of course I watched it.
I don't remember Helicopter, though.
I remember Hot Sauce, The Professor, White Chocolate, Skip to My Lou.
There was a guy named White Chocolate?
Yeah.
No.
Wasn't there?
I don't think there was.
There was.
Our ages, by the way, is probably going to really heavily influence this draft.
You saying that?
Oh, 100%.
Because you're like 10 years younger than us.
I'm assuming late 30s, mid-late 30s.
Oh, he's not actually 28.
He's not actually 28.
Oh, that's a joke.
That was a joke.
No, this is the best day ever.
You don't look 28.
I'm kidding, you look 28.
Clearly I do, Sean.
I know you do. I'm kidding. You look 28. Clearly I do, Sean. I know you do.
I'm a gentleman's 41, so I'll be coming in.
Class of 05.
Yeah, class of Robert Parrish over here.
So I'll be coming in with some more relevant choices.
I'm 37.
So we're all in the same ballpark.
We're on that same gym here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're drafting from the same pool, I think.
Once again, I'm the old wise owl of the show.
Not a problem.
Saturday morning cartoons kind of started their heyday in the 1960s.
Part of it was a government mandate that every network had to have a select block of children's programming.
And this was how the networks, which of which there were,
there wasn't cable back then.
This was kind of how they fulfilled that by putting children's programming on
Saturday morning,
which wasn't like a hotspot,
but they knew kids were home.
And then it started to like gain traction.
Kids started watching it.
And then it was huge for the sixties,
the seventies,
the eighties.
Then with the rise of cable,
all of a sudden other networks started airing cartoons
all day or at different times of day and then all of a sudden that saturday morning slot became a
little less coveted a little less impactful and thus the death of saturday morning cartoons
and now die like what in the uh in the 2000s was when they say okay so when i was really old for it
yeah because i was gonna say i i thought it was cooking up until the time i left i can't sometimes in the 2000s was when they say, okay. So when I was really old for it, cause I was going to say,
I thought it was cooking up until the time I left.
I can't,
sometimes I'll turn like,
cause I'm on the,
on the YouTube TV,
wherever my equivalent of network is now on like a Saturday morning,
you go over there,
they can't find it.
There's no,
there's no,
sometimes you'll see like an animal show,
like whatever the wild crats is.
I feel like I say that started to get into,
to like,
like just live action shows
or whatever.
Those started to like
sneak their way
and like Saved by the Bell
and stuff.
Those were
when I got into
like my teen years
I remember
what the fuck was the other one?
California Dream.
California Dreamin'?
California Dreamin'.
Yeah.
That was the other one
I'd watch with that sly dude.
It was just a rip off
of Saved by the Bell.
Like a little newer.
What was the basketball one?
The Reggie Theus?
They had a band. Yeah, they had a band. Yeah, I mean you remember Saved by the bell like a little newer what was the basketball one that reggie theist was like yeah they had a band yeah i mean you remember saved by the bell had a band too with mr cooper attack no that was friday night though are you talking about uh city
guys it was a bat what it was a show where reggie theist was a basketball coach so mina and all
those shows and saved by the bell in california dreaming i used to think maybe they were in
california dreaming but i used to think it was actually like
Mark Paul Gosselaar and Mario Lopez singing
when they were the Zack Attack.
I was like, those guys are pretty good singers too,
on top of being amazing actors at the time for me.
They could do it all.
It wasn't them singing.
I don't remember the Zack Attack,
like what their sound was like.
Yeah, what was it like a Duran Duran kind of thing?
When, do you remember there was that one episode?
It's a hard sound garden.
It was that one episode where it cut to them in the future
and Casey Kasem was on the episode.
And he goes, they had that song,
Friends forever.
Forever.
Always will be friends.
So Zach and Slater sing and I was like,
these fucking guys can do it.
Is the infamous
you know i'm so excited jesse taking pills hot sunday she was in the oh she had her own band it
was her and kelly and lisa they were in hot sunday different hot sunday yes that was what their band
was called that was zach was their manager racy yeah and she was getting she was addicted to like
notos or whatever they were called what caffeine? Caffeine pills, right? Go fast.
Yeah.
Some of that trucking.
Some yellow jackets.
Crank.
She was addicted to crank.
Jesse, where'd you get this crank?
Modesto?
Yeah.
That was that season David Mamet wrote of Saved by the Bell.
He came in for one season I just drove out to Barstow and got this crank
so I could be in Hot Sundays
stop it Zach
now the way we determine the order of this draft
is through a rollicking game of rock paper scissors
play between the three of you and we throw on shoot
here we go
I really want number one
if I win you can have it
it's contentious
don't say that Sean play like a champion
come on play like a champion
yeah go for it
rock paper scissor shoot
damn
we play again we play again
rock paper scissor
shoot
tell me to win
a natural victory a rock against you didn't let me have it
because i said i wanted it right no i always want to how was i gonna yeah i can't let you have rock
paper scissors even if i want i wouldn't know how to let somebody win rock paper scissors
okay i think we've played rock paper scissors amongstissors amongst like you know like more than
we're probably in the top 1% of people
who have played Rock Paper Scissors to this point
the amount of games we play
maybe
I don't know people in prison probably
oh yeah people in prison
as a kid we played it for everything
I'm just picturing all these people
in prison just being like Rock Paper Scissors
I can't do any
more sit-ups. You want to play rock, paper, scissors for a while?
You don't have props. Yeah, that's
true. I bet they have like complex
games or I'm like Navy submarines.
You know what I mean? Where there's like 16
options. Sure.
Our Amina
as the winner of rock, paper, scissors, it is incumbent
upon you to determine the order of today's draft.
But before you do that, I'll remind you,
it is a serpentine draft.
And what is that?
That's a great question.
It's like if you're braiding someone's hair, I think.
You take three.
If you're French braiding, you take three.
You cross one over.
So you go down a little bit, cross it over.
And then you grab this side.
You go down a little bit and cross it over to the right.
And then you go down this side.
I've had to do a lot of these, Mina.
I try to make them different every time.
That's not even close to a good serpentine explanation.
I mean, if you're making
Princess Leia braids, maybe.
Okay, so if you're making Princess Leia braids
and then you start on one side
and then you go to the left and then go down
a little bit and then go to the right
and then down a little bit and then to the left and then go down a little bit and then go to the right and then down a little bit and then to the left.
And then, you know, you have a sort of a serpentine type braid type situation.
And, you know, it's like that.
As the father of a daughter, do you feel like you should have a better grasp on braids or is this or is that something that's common?
Are you going to learn to braid?
I know how I know the concept.
I think we all know the concept.
It's the weave.
I mean, I know how to do it on a basketball.
Well, I know how it's supposed to be done on a basketball court,
so I should just be able to transfer that to hair.
I think so.
Isn't it the same concept?
Like one in the middle, then this one in the middle,
and that one in the middle?
I don't know.
Yeah. I mean, sort of. Is that a basketball drill? Right. the middle than this one in the middle and that one in the middle i don't know yeah i mean sort
of is that a basketball drill right the three-man weave three-man weave absolutely ball doesn't
touch the floor teamwork princeton yeah running it um so i get to choose that's right
if you pick fourth in the first round you pick second and or you pick first in the first round, you pick second, or you pick first in the second round.
There it is.
Mina, what is the order of today's draft going to be?
Okay.
I'll go, people can't see the Zoom,
down and around.
So I'll go David, Ian, Sean,
and then back around.
Wait, you don't want to go first?
You want to go first.
Oh, I'm first.
Yeah, I meant after me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Please, yeah.
So Mina, David, Ian, me.
I'm last?
You're last.
No, it's a hot corner.
I get two for the price of one.
Two strips of bacon on that cartoon burger.
That's all right.
Put me in the middle.
Put me in the middle.
I'll clear out space.
Low post.
Dangerous low post game.
Here we go.
Mina, you have the first pick,
and we're going to get to that first pick
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Yeah, fantastic.
We're happy to come on. Anything you
want to draft, talk about menu items.
We've got a lot of experience. I heard it loud and clear.
Do you have strong opinions
about which addresser should go first
in
the coming NFL draft?
Big time.
If any of you can name a single prospect
in this coming draft,
you have an invitation to come on.
Anthony Richardson?
Is he the quarterback?
Damn it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Arms is in.
Yeah.
You're in.
Bryce Young.
Is he too small?
Is he too small to make it in the NFL?
Save this.
What was that hand measurement?
Nine and a half inches?
Oh, that's the guy from Alabama, right?
Yes.
Is that the guy from Alabama?
Let me try to name one.
Tatum Hutchinson.
Are you just saying names?
Tatum Hutchinson sounds like a gritty white edge rusher who has deceptive speed
and is the coach's son, but it's not a real
human. You didn't catch him in the combine?
So all I'm hearing is I know something you
don't about this subject, so I should probably definitely be
invited on.
No, I couldn't tell you one to save my daughter's life.
So yeah, nope.
Ian's locked in.
I don't know. I don't think it's a big deal that
Devin Witherspoon didn't attend the combine. He proved so much playing cornerback in Illinois. Did you Google in the air. Thank you. Ian's locked in. I don't know. I don't think it's a big deal that Devin Witherspoon didn't attend the Combine.
You know, he proved so much
playing cornerback in Illinois.
Did you Google in the last 10 seconds
while Sean was talking?
That's not the kind of thing I would do.
You bring in stuff.
Cheating a little.
A little cheating.
A little cheating.
Well, let's get it.
I think we're drafting
Saturday morning cartoons, I think.
It feels like we got off track
for a second there. I would never google anything
I'm actually
I'm going to check out this google website you brought up
after the podcast but I'm excited to see what that is
you can find
some stuff on there I'll tell you what
you're going to have a day
you're going to have a good day man
you can also have a really bad day depending on
what you type into that little bar that you're going to see
look up videos of old turtles and moose running through things.
I'm excited for the day.
I digress.
You do digress.
Mina, it is time for your first pick.
The first pick in the Saturday morning cartoon draft.
So I really wanted the first pick to make a football comparison.
I feel like with this draft, there's like a surefire, gotta have it, number one.
Andrew Luck, can't miss generational
prospect i actually have a prop which is great for podcasts i hear give me three seconds this
is a prop cast so it's gonna work out great andrew luck oh my god she came back with a gun
okay i'm back i i okay so like i actually am like a i wouldn't say a super fan but kind of a super
fan of this cartoon to the point where i still talk about it as an adult it is my first overall
pick oh yeah x-, the animated series. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- Every episode, we taped them all on VHS so we could go back and watch them later.
It is truly like Beowulf for children.
Just epic plot lines, incredible characters, story arcs that transcended seasons.
I think one of the greatest television shows of all time, not even just one of the greatest Saturday morning cartoons of all time.
It was so,
it was so good.
There were a few of these like superhero cartoons that were amazing,
but this one was like,
you're right.
There's a premiere.
Multiple season arcs,
like complex storytelling.
Also,
that's a great X-Men lineup.
Like,
you know how over the years,
some of the X-Men lineups,
you're like,
that's like,
that's like,
like the TV, like Gambit was in there he's from new orleans like it was just like a very good it's just a
very good x-men lineup beast is so great like i also feel like it has to be the horniest he was the only one cut loose he's out there gambling cut loose all the time well wolverine
was cutting loose every now and then well that was because yeah but yeah he was but he's in love
with gene gray yeah yeah he was in love with gene gray but he would i i i remember as a kid thinking
he was so funny because of his one-liners. Yeah. Called people bub.
You know, like he was always fucking with Cyclops.
Because Cyclops is a nerd.
Cyclops is a square.
Yeah.
Such a snitch.
Scott Summers.
He even has a square name.
Come on.
Square.
Professor X was in the hovering wheelchair.
It's all great.
The plot lines, though, like they were like the one where Phoenix went dark.
That last like episodes was incredible.
They did the secret wars.
They did all,
they did like everything going back and forth in time to try and stop
apocalypse with Bishop.
And I,
I just,
it was a lot for a kid,
a lot.
I was very dialed in.
The movies came out and they did, I love Taylor Kitsch.
And the Gambit, it just didn't work.
And it's like it would have been so fun to see a cool, dope Gambit.
And it just didn't translate.
Do you know what Gambit's real name is?
Like his non-X-Men name?
It's super Creole, isn't it?
Gambo Buthro.
It's Remy Etienne Labo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course it is.
That's what it was.
A bit much.
I actually don't,
I don't need the hot sauce.
I don't need the hot sauce.
This gumbo's spicy enough on its own.
You keep it.
Isn't Channing Tatum supposed to be Gambit?
Channing Tatum was supposed to do a Gambit?
Yeah, he was supposed to do a Gambit yeah he was supposed to do a gambit
he would be great i bet taylor okay i love taylor kitch i just really was hoping i'm not wrong right
i don't know i don't know man i don't remember that yeah for me the live movies some of them
are fine but they've never lived up to x-men the animated series yeah that's fair beast was great in the animated series too
like like he's a smart guy but he's not a nerd no like he is kind of like you would always have
like a lab coat sometimes i would say you know he was like okay that's yeah an old kind of smart
yeah there was just stuff they could do in the cartoon that they couldn't do in the movies even
with us even now even with his like the cartoon that they couldn't do in the movies, even now.
Even with the amazing technology they have now that would just, I don't know, lose us something.
Well, yeah, totally.
Cartoons are where it's at anyways.
They're supposed to be animated.
They had Juggernaut, dude.
Juggernaut in the cartoons with the big fucking...
Did you ever see those videos somebody made?
That was a Fashion Nova.
Like Goldberg from the top of his head to his shoulder. All the way to his shoulders. cartoons with the big fucking did you ever see those videos somebody made like goldberg's from
the top of his head to his shoulder they just all the way to his shoulders but like the do you ever
like an early it was like an early internet like i'm the juggernaut bitch did you ever see those
videos somebody oh yeah yeah yeah i'm the juggernaut bitch they're like they're pretty funny it's i
there's no way i'm gonna do them justice and i'm not gonna try but do yourself a little favor
if you're sitting in a bathroom stall and you've already let everyone know you're looking at your phone by opening TikTok,
go ahead and switch to the juggernaut next.
I just had a flashback of when Wolverine, like, he, like, cut up.
Maybe it was probably Cyclops' car, because he was frankly kind of bullying him.
And I just remember being like, I made you a convertible, bub.
And he's like, I made you a convertible, bub. And me as a kid being like, no!
Not even that funny, but as a kid.
Poor Scott's like, I have to drive in this.
I paid for this, Logan.
It's raining.
We live in Connecticut.
I don't much care, do I, bub?
He's just smoking a cigar.
Like, what the fuck?
In the rain. He's like, what the fuck? In the rain.
He's like, my cigar stays lit in the rain.
You can drive your new convertible in the rain.
I'd be so pissed.
You openly hit on my girlfriend and now you fuck my car up, dude?
We work together.
That's so funny.
It would be tough having such an important job with somebody who just would not stop
hitting on your girlfriend ever you're like i can't quit i have to i gotta be here
we're doing bigger things he must have had some tense meetings with charles
yeah it's just like we gotta get rid of this guy he's like we can't man we can't he's a loose kid
we don't want him joining the other you want him joining the other side scott because i sure don't yeah he's volatile like can you just wreck my car yeah well
scott some people don't even have a car are you gonna get me a new kia professor x are you gonna
get me a new sportage if that's what it's gonna take scott this guy was more powerful like cyclops
could shoot lasers out of his eyes yeah wolverine was just a really good fighter
yeah he was like regenerative but like yeah he could have just blasted him in the face right
control one would think i don't know yeah i don't know we all respected him less for not doing it
that's what sucks about it is we were all like this fucking guy if you know someone's regenerative
then just do it anyways every time he he pissed me off, I would laser
beam a hole in his stomach. Just a little one in his
leg.
Like that.
Like you're spraying a cat.
Like you're spraying a cat.
Oh, man.
Next one in the animated series.
It's a great pick. It's an Andrew Luck.
David Boyd, time for your first
pick. I bet he would
drive a fucking kia
a nice kia so my pick is uh later so this was one of the last saturday morning cartoons i remember
watching it i remember watching regularly but it was also like one of the most all-encompassing
kids cartoons ever as far as like when i was a kid, I used to watch cartoon shows that were kids living in their own world by their own rules.
Oh, yeah.
That was like the exciting thing to reflect on for me.
I know what it is.
So I'm taking recess.
Damn it.
Oh, yeah.
It was just everything you want.
They had a king of the kids who lived in a town.
It was everything you wanted out of a cartoon.
And they were fifth graders, which I feel is right about the age that I was when I was kind of like, this was the last cartoon I did big.
All the characters, iconic.
You had all the types.
The big, giant poet.
The big, strong guy who's actually a sweet poet.
The tiny, quirky lady who's going to fight everybody.
The athlete.
TJ Detweiler, All-American, just good boy.
Great show, man.
Also, when you're in third grade or second grade,
fifth graders are so fucking cool.
That's the crazy part.
I remember these kids.
Cave to the school.
Cave to the school.
There were a fight.
These kids were Kevin and Shay
These two kids
I remember
I'll remember forever
They organized a fight
They were fifth graders
And I was a second grader
And I watched
And it was like watching
And I watched
It was like watching Titans
You know
And I'd look back
I'm like god I bet it was
I'm sure like just some
I don't know
Just fifth graders fighting
Doesn't seem like it'd be that gnarly
But to me
It was like watching two Adonises It does when you're in third grade it was crazy to see it
was scary i don't know yeah fifth graders seemed gnarly so that's not what happened in recess
though they were like more like fun hygiene they weren't like at risk youth but we were talking
like before david about how like when you're a kid you have like what seems like an eon is two seasons
of television i feel like that same thing is like captured in recess where it's like the world on a
in simply recess seems so big and like yeah it is it's like a self-governing you know principles
that was ah that was the best about it is like yeah i like shows where it wasn't kids interfering
and they just there was lore there was so much lore that was going on and then like it was one of those
shows that had two episodes in a half hour so i think that like doubles it you know what i mean
where it's like it's too many ones so yeah just to speak to that shorter amount of time that it
was on it felt like it was twice the show What kind of recess kids were all of you? I mean, my whole life could arguably be modeled after Angela Spinelli.
I even dressed like her as an adult.
Are you kidding me?
The tomboy who secretly had a crush on TJ.
So cool.
I'm trying to think.
We all would love to think that we were tj detweilers obviously
i think that i was like a mikey with a little more vince but even without even without the show i
because i i i have to admit i didn't see i didn't see recess i think i was i think it just i think
it was just a little too old yeah but like what were you getting what was everyone getting up to
a recess oh it was like i remember it was like a lot of
ongoing football games like
you know you'd have like a football game that just lasted
all year kind of thing
we used to play tackle football on the
pavement we didn't have a
we just played on the playground
which is
I played on Foursquare
did you guys have all the tricks like no
spinnies no black tricks like no spinnies
no black magic like no super found
oh my god
do you remember black magic where you spin it back
it was like you put some English on it
who was the first
kid to come up with that
cause it made it everywhere
it bounced from school to school
he tells everybody and nobody believes him
he's like you know I invented black magic
this is a fascination of mine how things at one school like we all grew up in different states
in different times and we all know what that is that's so weird yeah that is crazy that that is
bizarre i wonder if kids are still doing that like i mean i still see four score in all these
playgrounds that we go to they still have it they must yeah i wonder if it's like it's like the easiest game to facilitate no not if they're still playing i guess i wonder
if the if the moves have evolved the same way that every other sport evolves you think they're
still using those big red balls that hurt so much yeah yeah ours were blue ours were red you remember
those blue never mind yeah the kickball balls yeah they had the little diamonds on them yeah
they'll see it blasted in the face with one of those.
Such a satisfying
thwack, though.
You hear it inside your head?
Either there's a...
This was like through a
circuit of cousins visiting each other
and then taking it back to whatever city
they were from, and then that's how the network grew.
Or there's a Johnny Appleseed.
That's interesting.
A four square.
Who just kept going around.
An eternal youth,
a new American folk figure.
Who's just gone from town to town to town.
I think about this a lot because we grew up pre internet as kids.
Right.
And like how everybody knew the same urban legends,
like about Richard Gere and the hamster i'm like
absolutely every kid at every school i guess like everybody all over the place i in portland we have
that i think it's like i think it's like cousins and things like that and like cross-pollinating
all these stories across you know not the globe but the country wouldn't you think like you'd
talk to someone from Vermont and then they
would have like a variation there,
but like,
Oh,
it wasn't Richard gear and a hamster for us.
It was like,
it was Jeff Daniels and a mongoose or like,
like that would be like a regional Stephen King with a lobster.
Yeah.
But there's not.
Yeah.
It's just like the same.
It's my mom.
My mom's still to this day.
I bring it.
I brought it up the last time i was home she
still believes that she still believes the marilyn manson uh rib thing another classic of the genre
it's gotta be classic um to put the playground thing though we for for a while i started like a
anti-bully walk around the playground sort of task force thing yes you do me and me and like
three kids we'd walk around and we'd we'd force thing. Yes, you did. That is the most narc-ass shit.
We would walk around
and we'd try to make sure
kids weren't getting bullied.
I remember doing that
for what seems like a long time.
Well, now we know
which recess kid you were,
the rat.
Remember that kid?
Yeah, Randall.
Randall.
Mrs. Hinton.
Who would always go to Miss Finster.
And he was like her eyes and ears.
There was Miss Finster and then there was the hippie teacher who was like the chiller oh yeah there was she was their
homeroom teacher yeah miss grope don't remember her name but she would not be able to teach in
florida today because she was like i'm teaching crt to those kids that she had from my making
that up she had like the cat eyeeye glasses? Yes. Very cool lady.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah, she was great.
Man, what a good show.
Yeah, that show ripped.
And there was the king of the children.
I loved that.
They had to address him as King Bob.
He was just like some kid who was in sixth grade.
Hilarious.
Excellent pick.
Time for my first pick.
I'm going to take...
I'm going classic, but I'm going to take, I'm going, I'm going classic,
but I'm going to classic that is held up.
That is entertained generations that has embedded itself in our culture.
So firmly that I,
I believe my grandchildren will be watching some iteration of Scooby-Doo.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's never going to stop.
It's so good. It's class. it's class it's it's it's
it's a mystery of the week you got you got a funny stoner kid you got a jock archetype wait
before we knew what weed was by the way there's like a stoner kid and you don't know what weed is
yeah that was one for the adults watching you know like with their kids where they're like this dude
shaggy is blazed out of his mind and we were just like this dude likes snacks and i can relate to that this guy this guy's cool
i don't know what it is but well scooby too just ripped i mean they're both ripped out of their
gourd it's like shaggy was blowing the hits of scooby's face all day scooby would have red eyes
they would get they would be high they'd show them like high and then they'd show like coming
down a little bit but yeah they were fucking
high but like that was the
heart of the show right like does anybody really
remember back and you're like I love Freddie and
nobody was Fred no
some people were Velma
Velma was a sexual awakening for a lot of
people but yeah
now they've said is lesbian yeah
that's right that's the one that Mindy Kaling wore
yeah Mindy Kaling wore on Linda. Mindy Kaling wore it on.
Linda Cardellini.
It's real next.
I think was the movie.
Yeah, yeah.
I have a little bit of an aside, but because of Scooby-Doo, I had misconceptions that dogs
enjoyed weed.
So, a little story.
I didn't intentionally do this, but I came downstairs once a few years ago,
and my beloved dog, Lenny, who kind of looks a little bit like Scooby-Doo, Scrappy-Doo more,
I come downstairs, and I'm like, wow, it's weird.
It's 4 p.m. He's usually agitating for his dinner.
Don't see him. Don't hear him.
I turn, and he's just sitting on the armchair staring at me
just fucking staring eyes wide as saucers and i'm like what the what's going on with my dog
whatever and i'm like is he okay he's like shaking a little bit and then i like look around i'm like
oh fuck i look at a little dish i had on the coffee table. It's empty. I look back at Lenny and he's staring at me and he's so upset.
Just like fucking.
I know.
And we've all had like the friend who doesn't react well to it,
you know,
in high school.
And it's just like,
you know,
I think UFOs and like whatever.
And I didn't think I,
but honestly I was a little disappointed.
Cause I was like, this is, I didn't think i but honestly i was a little disappointed because i
was like this is i didn't think you'd be this that dude you wanted a party
what did you do did you turn on some like tam and paula and try to like uh
just like get them into it yeah i was like you want snacks yeah i've got like munchies for you
no i just like sat there with him and waited it out. But he was miserable.
Miserable.
That's tough.
And you can't be like, it's temporary.
It's all right.
Enjoy it.
Lean into it.
Lean into it, bro.
Or do the thing where you just need more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You just need to take it up a notch.
That's all.
I'm like that.
I just cannot handle it.
And probably once a year I try because I want to be able to handle it.
Just something with my chemistry.
I just can't.
It just doesn't work. That's unfortunate.
That's okay.
It's fine that you don't smoke weed.
You can be Fred, dude. You're Fred. It's alright.
You're still in the van, bro.
Yeah, you and your buddies just go run around
telling everybody we'll smoke some weed with Scooby.
I took my anti-bully movement to the grown-up world.
You know what?
No bullies in the world, all right?
No bullies either.
No bullies.
Now, what that is is an iconic turn of phrase.
Put it in my quote book.
There it is.
Yeah.
Scooby-Doo.
I loved it.
It was on probably Cartoon network is probably where i saw
but it was a saturday morning cartoon i just loved it i love i love when they teamed up with the
harlem globetrotters great song classic characters fun like guest stars all the time you got like all
the people vincent price you got all the people of the day like coming on for one episode doing
a voice it's just it's just classic saturday morning fun it's archetypal yeah so that's my
first pick scuba stupas sean jordan time for your first and second picks scooby dooby do my favorite
favorite thing in the whole world was he-man so he-man i mean it was hands i mean by far and away
my favorite i had all the action figures.
I just worshipped the show.
I loved everything about it.
I still think it's super dope.
I still like the movie.
I still like the action figures.
Every single thing.
I had the sword.
We couldn't afford the castle,
so my stepdad made me Castle Greyskull out of cardboard.
I think we talked about that like a month ago.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, he, you know.
That's so cool.
I look back, and it's funny
because I remember it being
amazing
and that's the memory
that I want
but I'd love to see it now.
I'd like to feel like what
I remember he had like shoelaces
and made like a little drawbridge
and everything.
He really
That sounds pretty good.
Pretty legit.
Yeah.
And I just
I just loved
I loved everything about it.
Skeletor just scared
the shit out of me
which I loved.
So scary.
Like an actual cartoon that could scare you. My aunt's name is Lynn.
Well, skeletons aren't supposed to be buff.
That's what they figured out on that show.
Skeletons have existed in the past, and they were phony, and they were scary in their way.
But then they were like, what if we made a skeleton buff?
And then all of a sudden Skeletor existed.
He looked like a boxer coming out because he had a hood with no shirt.
No shirt? Yeah. Nobody had a shirt looked like a boxer coming out because he had a hood with no shirt. No shirt?
Yeah, so he was like,
you look like-
Nobody had a shirt.
Jonathan Major's coming out or something.
Yeah, it was wild.
A lot of bondage gear.
He may have was a little sexual.
Very.
It felt more than a little, huh?
Crazy.
My brother had the action figure
and so I didn't watch the show,
but the He-Man action figure
played a large role
in my Barbie cinematic universe.
Because he was the one that Barbie was always cheating on Ken with in my world.
Who are you telling?
I feel like three different times we've gone to the storyline of the snitch and the bad boy.
And this is the third time.
The snitch and the bad boy.
Stop saying pigs.
He was also just this buff freak
with a page boy haircut.
His haircut was so weird.
His name was He-Man.
Everything about him was wild.
What the fuck was that haircut though?
No buff dude has ever had that haircut.
He looked like a little Dutch boy.
Prince Valiant.
When you break that down,
it's some some executive being
like all right we want this dude to be super gay but what's a name that does not sound gay
he man he and man nobody nobody will get it we're gonna have pink tights everything else
no clothing except for maybe some bondage across his nipples and uh but we're gonna call him he
man so it's still gonna get in there right on these and he's gonna cock ken
He-Man. So it's still going to get in there. Right on these.
And he's going to cock Ken.
That's what they should call him.
He had his
old dude friend. I can't remember his name,
but it was like the guy who,
even in the cartoon, looked like he was about
60. His main guy,
he had shaggy gray hair and a mustache.
Remember that guy?
I don't remember he man very well though
that's like well the earliest cartoons yes yeah i mean this that's what i was like four or five
this was i tried to make the list where going off cartoons that i actually like vividly remembered
watching on saturday morning right so um to start anyway so yeah i engage with he man via
hand-me-down toys from my older brother dude Dude, I was... I had... They had the action, though.
You remember where you would turn it
and it would snap back?
Dude, they had skunk war.
They had one called skunk war
that you just twist his waist a bunch
and he stunk.
It's like so dope.
There was a dude...
There was like a sucker mouth guy
where he squeezed on him
and he shot water out.
Like...
Merman.
Yeah.
Back before these names were taken
so they could just be like,
yeah, we'll call him Merman.
Now you can't do that because He-Man did it.
They had the, yeah, anyway, they had slime,
that you could buy slime, and I got it all over the carpet.
Anyway, loved He-Man.
And so, second pick,
the next thing that I remember vividly seeing
on Saturday morning, which is just He-Man for animals,
was Thundercats.
Oh, yeah.
Second choice. Sword of Omen, give me Seppi on sight. morning which is just he-man for animals was thundercats oh yeah oh yeah second choice sort
of omen give me side beyond sight yeah there i mean it really is he-man he-man for animals
because mumra was definitely skeleton mumra if you watch that intro i've talked about it a few
times but that intro is terrifying still to this day the voice that mumra makes because he goes
from this feeble little like just old man and then flips out like a typhoon
and then he turns into a giant buff mummy.
And it's terrifying.
And his voice is scary.
They took the thesis they had explored in He-Man,
which was what if a skeleton was buff?
And then they were like,
well, what if a cat was buff?
And what if a mummy was buff?
That's what I'm saying.
I do think the Thundercats are cooler
than the Masters of the Universe, though.
I don't know. I like Lionel better than Iats are cooler than the Masters of the Universe, though. Like, I don't know.
I like Lionel better than I like He-Man.
Sure.
Yeah, like, his hair was beautiful.
Yeah, he had like a, yeah.
They had the.
Who was that?
Who was the bald one?
Pantera?
Pantera.
They had Chitara.
Yeah.
And was it Chitara with an Unchucks?
Or was that Pantera?
Panthra.
Not Pantera.
Panthra.
Panthra.
He was gray, remember? He was bald and he was gray. They just had Dimebag Daryl in therethra, not Pantera. Panthra. He was gray, remember?
He was bald and he was gray.
They just had Dimebag Daryl in there, like in the background.
And then they had Schnarf as well.
Schnarf running around just being worried about shit.
Yeah.
I just loved it.
I loved it.
I guess I just liked that formula.
Just a huge buff dude with a sword.
That was good.
Yeah.
Tried and true.
Yeah.
Yeah, it works.
Yeah, I didn't, you know, until I was saying it out loud,
I didn't realize that those are basically the same show.
One's just with cats, but whatever.
They're two different shows.
So true to form.
Got to pick those for my first two.
Oh.
Yeah, dude.
Oh.
Hacksaw Jim Lionel out there just getting it done uh yeah thundercats dude
great pick back to back kind of got the buff market cornered yeah story of my life
i'm gonna go okay
okay i'm gonna go buff turtles i'm going to go buff turtles.
I'm taking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Obviously.
Yeah.
Classic.
If we're staying in the we invented these to sell toys lane,
I'm picking my personal MVP, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Yeah.
Skateboards, dude.
Pizza.
Putting crazy stuff on pizza.
Hanging out with a news reporter for some reason
they had it all you know you were just talking about when you put something on you like you
make a video and you're like this is gonna blow up yeah i remember when covid first hit i was like i
can kickflip i can eat pizza and i can nunchuck so i went out i bought an orange bandana i cut
some holes in the eyes and i went to this playground and i i did i did a kickflip i
skated around got a piece of pizza took a bite threw it and then i started this playground and i i did i did a kickflip i skated around got a piece of
pizza took a bite threw it and then i started nunchucking i was like this has to be a viral
millions i could see the zeros just piling up i don't know 40 views or something where is this
where does it live yeah where's this video at i think it's on my instagram
wall like i think i put it on my wall
like three years ago or something.
It's dark.
That's really, really funny.
It was, you know,
I should do it better.
Which turtle were you?
Michelangelo.
Was that deliberate?
Did you put thought into that?
Yeah, because he had the nunchucks.
He was always my favorite
because I was in Taekwondo my whole life.
So the Ninja Turtles were like,
they were going to be my third pick.
And the nunchucks were the only weapon that I actually,
they teach you all the weapons.
And the nunchucks were the ones that worked for me.
And I could still, I'm still pretty nice with it.
Was he the party dude?
He was the party dude.
Okay, Raphael.
He's cool but rude.
He's cool but rude.
Leonardo was the leader.
Yeah.
Donatello's the scientist. And like artsy and leader. Yeah. And then... Donatello's the scientist.
In like artsy and smart.
Yeah.
Raph was the hothead.
Wait, he was the dickhead, right?
That's what we just said.
Raph was the bad boy.
Cool, but rude.
Yeah.
Dickhead.
Well, you know, I think that's your view.
Yeah.
We're learning a lot about you.
Yeah, turtles, man.
Sounds like which one was telling on people. yeah i was fred i considered myself a
rafael as a kid i liked him i like the color red yeah i i was also michael angelo if i had to pick
one i think yeah i could see that my favorite nunchucks who have pizza okay okay okay okay love drawing staff right that was both staff donatello staff yep
that was a cool one they also had some great enemies bebop and rocksteady you know they had
like a warthog and rhino they fought there was the rat king the brain in the
his suit was fucking crazy like he looked like he was made out of silly putty.
He was like crazy.
He had that weird 80s punk glasses.
Yeah, the Rat King.
They had Yosagi Yojimbo, who was, I don't know if he was a friend or foe, but the rabbit,
like the samurai rabbit.
I think he kind of played the line.
Yeah.
Who was their friend?
Casey Jones was their friend.
Casey, who died, made you referee.
Yeah, the guy from Look Who's Talking.
You know what's funny?
In Elizabeth, the main park is Casey Jones Park.
Named after him?
I bet it's after the Ninja Turtles.
Named after Casey Jones.
There was a hockey rink and all that stuff.
Did you ever see the show Street Sharks?
That was clearly a Ninja Turtles.
It was a rip-off.
It was Jawsome.
It was Jawsome. And the whole thing was like, a Ninja Turtles. Oh, come on. It was a rip off. Oh, yeah. It was Jawsome. Yeah.
It was Jawsome.
Yeah.
And the whole thing was like, we don't eat pizza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like some kid at home was like, finally.
Yeah.
Finally.
That one holdout.
I was that kid for a while that was like, I don't like pizza.
Just trying to be contrarian when I was like six.
Yeah.
I used to be that kid.
We would never have been friends.
You told on people you hated pizza? Okay. I took a hard turn when I was like six. Yeah, I used to be that kid. We would never have been friends. You told on people you hated pizza?
Okay.
I took a hard turn when I was sixth grade.
Do you like pizza because of the inherent qualities
or because there's so much pizza propaganda
when we're children?
That's a great question.
That's a great question.
I think inherent qualities,
because American,
I think the rise of pizza propaganda
was the rise of pizza killing it in America.
Like when did Domino's start being like delivery pizza
that's what's like it feels like that pushes like late 70s to 80s right that
seems like around the time like I think it's hand in hand also yeah it's just a
bunch of cheese and meat but like but then like like? Yeah, but then, like, lasagna. Kids aren't like, yo, I love lasagna.
I always love lasagna.
I love lasagna, too.
Deconstructed pizza.
The fact that you can just pick up pizza
and eat, you don't need any utensils.
You don't need to be a dork with a fork.
You can pick up a calzone.
A dork with a fork.
Where are you getting calzones when you're six?
Some of the same places you get pizza.
Pizza's cheap.
There was a lot of, like, mobility in food, like get pizza. Pizza's cheap. There was a lot of like mobility in food,
like marketed to us as kids.
Take this go-gurt anyway.
You know what I mean?
You can do it on the bus.
And the bus driver's like,
quit fucking eating yogurt back there.
Don't open that go-gurt on my bus.
I'm picking up tubes for hours.
Food they have,
like the frosting,
like Dunkaroos, like frosting and
cracker in the same thing.
What were those spreadable cheese ones?
What was that called that had like the cheese container
and the cracker? Like a Lunchables?
Not quite a Lunchables. It was like a little
tub of cheese and then four club
crackers. And they had like a red
I think it was Handy Snack. That's like a
United Tapas box now.
Yeah, exactly.
That's the best case scenario for an airplane.
About the bus real quick, I just have to say,
when we were riding the bus in elementary school,
we used to get our hands out the window and make snowballs
from the roof and throw them at the driver.
Oh my God.
This is pretty funny.
Just imagine.
School bus drivers.
When you say we used to do that,
do you mean other kids used to do that
and you used to tell them which ones it was?
No, I was still trying.
I was toeing the line.
It was them.
Bus driver. It was Aaron Goldstein.
Bus driver.
I remember Aaron Goldstein used to do it.
Maybe I did know a Jewish kid when I was little.
Maybe you did. Maybe I did.
I thought Ian was the first Jewish kid I met.
Collaborator.
What an ally. He god he makes me ninja turtles it's it's yeah it was a classic
saturday morning cartoon david borre time for your second pick i'm taking this uh remember
thorough memories it started out in south saturday afternoon it moved to after school later down the
line though uh just the first only superhero i ever saw
myself in or like i like this whole world he was very funny i'm taking darkwing duck oh yeah dude
that song dude get dangerous darkwing was just his face flying around dude he was kind of inept
though but very funny yeah he was basically like that
little girl actually solving all the crimes right like he had a good crew around him but they loved
each other yeah man big dark queen duck yeah he was bogus he didn't have any he was like not good
at his job but he was very funny he cared it was very funny yeah and i always thought he was black
but i think there was just a lot of purple in that show.
It was purple and black.
That's why, because it was just a whole different color scheme.
He could be black.
I don't think that they had any race.
There was no canonical.
Yeah.
No, I don't think so.
And then it was like all the favorites from the Duckverse, like Launchpad.
Launchpad.
You know what I mean?
Launchpad and McQuack got around.
Yeah.
They were doing crossover events like
Raising the Libyan Station 19.
Yeah.
What does canonical mean?
Like part of
the official story.
Yeah, like the canon.
See? Gotta ask.
Otherwise you'll never know. Now I know that. Thank you.
Like turtle is canonically
Italian.
Wait, we switched to they all had italian names yeah they did all have italian names yeah yeah they're Italian, sure. They are Italian, for sure. Some of our great Italians.
I would... If I was Italian, I wouldn't...
This is a complicated road we've started walking down.
Oh, that's funny.
Some of our greatest Italians, the Ninja Turtles.
Do you think they're claimed?
I think at times.
The Ninja Turtles?
I've never known them to be claimed by anybody.
I would love to go to a Columbus Day parade
and see the Ninja Turtles on a float, though.
They love pizza.
They're named Donatello, Rafael.
You're like...
Pizza was the only thing they loved.
They never ate cannolis or any other Italian food.
Yeah, that's true. If there was an Enoch turtle fighting people with a broken jameson bottle i'd claim it
i'm in there shamus turtle that's a much different car splinter was japanese right
yeah yeah yeah i assume did he talk with a vaguely japanese accent I think it was very, it was very, it's not great.
It's not great.
Yeah.
It hides,
it hides.
Ooh.
It was the,
it was the 1980s and they,
uh,
they let us know that every episode.
Oh man.
Yeah,
he was,
oh damn,
he was.
But April O'Neil wore a jumpsuit,
you know,
they didn't have her in a dress.
So,
you know, sisters were doing it for themselves
It was progressive
I don't even remember why
Also she dated turtles
Did she?
In my memory she did
But did we just manifest that?
Raphael was in love with her
They kissed
In the movie she kissed him on the forehead
It wasn't like Howard the Duck Where they fully had sex They kissed. In the movie, she kissed him on the forehead or something.
But they didn't. It wasn't like Howard the Duck where they fully
had sex with an animal.
The whole genre of upsetting porn.
Yeah.
It's because not only was he a turtle, he was also
a teen.
He was like a grown woman.
I was about to say, how do you know?
70% chance you're going to be in the wrong when someone's a teen.
So let's just cool it, April.
In like turtle years to human years.
There you go.
Oh, no, it's the other way.
Because turtles live until they're like 200 years old.
So it's like, it's actually worse.
It's actually much worse.
April O'Neil belongs in prison.
I never thought about that.
Did they?
Hold on. I got to Google they were be careful about this you know watch mina's googling something so this
is what you're gonna do after the show we do okay anyway can you guys guess what i'm googling based
on our conversation did april o'neill and ninja no no no it's a it's a picked i just i wanted to
see if their costumes cover their breasts.
I think they have shells.
Yeah, their shells are where their
wings should be.
The shells cover them,
but not enough to the point where...
Alright.
My questions are answered.
Do turtles have regular
sex? No, they don't. They sound like old men
moving couches when they have sex I'll tell you that
I've seen it first hand it's the funniest thing you will ever
see if you get to watch turtles
have sex it's the funniest thing
you'll ever see I've talked about it a bunch I don't need
to rehash that
but it's hilarious
oh my god alright well it's time
to find out what a dark winged duck
whose genitals were covered
it's time for Nina's second a dark wing duck, whose genitals were covered.
It's time for Nina's second and third pick. No, I don't think they were.
Pulling up my document.
No, yeah, because he only had the suit jacket up top
and then the cape.
Ducks don't have genitals.
Wait, ducks don't have a penis.
A duck doesn't have a penis.
A duck has a corkscrew penis.
Oh, it's a bad dick, yeah.
Ducks have corkscrew penises.
Yeah, they got bad ones. I've seen those, yeah. Ducks have corkscrew penises. Yeah, they got bad ones.
I've seen those, yeah.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Google it.
I don't.
I Google fights, David.
Oh, excuse me.
Google fist fights.
But yeah, duck ring duck.
That's my pick.
Are they corkscrews to like lock it in?
Yeah.
Is it like opening a line?
Is it like a cat dick where they have the little spurs locking in
no i remember there's some if there's something right it's like the the female
has like i'm gonna look right now false angles so it's like oh like there's a woman of course
no no no no no no no no it's something about that. I don't want to Google it again because the way it looks scares me a lot.
This article in
BBC Science Focus.
No way.
That looks like a proton.
BBC Science? Oh, British broadcast.
That looks like a proton beam shooting out.
The duck vagina is like a labyrinth.
Okay, see, that's what I meant.
I'm not crazy.
The entrance has several blind pouches followed by a series of
narrow spiral narrow narrow spirals so they have a labyrinthine vagina
there's a lot of like weird false entrances yeah
don't think i don't know about animal genitals, guys.
I got my fucking MFA.
Kakunis with the movie Labyrinth?
What's the word I just learned?
I forgot how to say it.
Meena, what are your second and third picks?
All right.
My second pick is a show that didn't start on Saturdays but migrated to Saturdays.
Yeah.
It's a show that was on multiple networks.
Character that I think
reflected
how a lot of us felt as children,
which is to say
deeply wracked by anxiety
at all times, and that is Doug.
Oh, yeah. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- harder to do over zoom yeah it doesn't work as good maybe the earliest portrayal of social anxiety
as a kid you know i think so yeah it's have you when was the last time you watched it
been a minute yeah so i i went back and watched it during pandemic it's like uh
it's okay but it's like you don't realize it until you get older it's the most because he's
so i think probably because he is so anxious it's the most boring show nothing happens and
really so much happens in my memory go back and watch just a couple on Nickelodeon.
It's like so minimal.
Like obviously the overarching like Patty Mayonnaise, Roger, all that stuff is kind of there.
But like truly not a lot happens in that show.
One of my earliest, not earliest, but one of my strongest memories of the show is the episode where they go on a date where Doug and Patty patty go on their first date but he doesn't know if it's a date so skeeter and his friends are like here are the signs did
she dress up when she shows up and she is you know in the same outfit but has like little earrings on
and like it's a date and but then she does stuff that makes it not a date and for my whole life
until i was an adult i literally obeyed those rules to like doug's rules of dating yeah
like you know um there is this a date question is plagued i mean like i think everyone's gone
through that it has to i got to the point where i had to be like i want to take you on a date
and that just because you'd always say hang i'd always say hang out because i was scared to ask
someone to go on a date because i'm like they they're going to say no, but someone will hang out for sure.
And then you're like, I hang out with everybody.
We're all, I go to the mall and we're all hanging out.
I don't know if this counts.
I do think Doug maybe gave kids, young boys, unrealistic expectations because Patty was so out of his league.
Oh yeah.
That's what I'm saying yeah that's what i'm saying
that's what i'm saying doug was a dud i thought i could be out here in cargo shorts just talking
way cooler than him yeah she was like the prettiest girl she was the most athletic
she was like kind of competitive in a cool way yeah very sweet really
doug didn't really do anything he had a rich internal life
Very sweet. Doug didn't really do anything.
He had a rich internal life.
He did.
Everybody knows that's the guys that get all the girls.
Especially at the young age.
What was he?
Quail Man?
Quail Man, yeah.
This is like fantasy.
Roger Klotz.
Yeah.
Anti-Semitic?
Possibly.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Mr. Dink? Also black, also black maybe mr dink ruled his neighbor yeah judy judy sunglasses indoors iconic yeah very bohemian like pretty sure started smoking
cigarettes right after that show and. Clothes, for sure.
Even just when we didn't see her, it was like burning down
club cigarettes writing poetry.
Yeah, it's kind of like
everybody was more interested on that show
than Doug. Now, like, cool girls
dress like Doug.
They wear, like, big shorts
and, like, sweater vests and stuff.
That's what fancy girls dress like.
Their hair is just shaky lines coming out.
Yeah.
Doug, excellent pick.
And your third pick.
I'm going to go in a radically different direction.
Batman, the animated series.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck, I thought I gave it an X.
That shit was dork.
And the art was amazing.
The art, the music, all of it.
It looked so good.
They had real actors.
Mark Hamill played the Joker on that show.
Yeah.
But I remember, in my mind, it was the darkest shit ever.
It was Tarkovsky for kids.
I mean, some of it was really sad.
Yeah, people died. um you know there was mr
freeze i remember the mr freeze one being really super dark there was a whole uh arc where batman
got addicted to oxy and became a male really no jeez i was gonna like whatever their version of oxy was no but it was pretty fucking
dark it was really dark what was that was the music the same i don't remember the music was
it like the movies like like the first one the timber yeah yeah it's always had good music all
the bad guys like it was like stylized of like the 50s right like that's the way everything kind of
looked it kind of solidified that Gotham.
Yeah, like that dark Gotham.
It was a little more, it was a little less,
it felt a little less whimsical than the Tim Burton movies.
Yes, but it was kind of inspired by that.
By that look, yeah.
The character of Harley Quinn is from the cartoon.
Like they invented it for the cartoon as like Joker's assistant
and then it became its old thing. Interesting. Harley Quinn is from the cartoon. Like they invented it for the cartoon is like your assistant.
And then it became its old thing.
Yeah.
Still some of the best Batman that's ever been done.
Like I see like the real,
like the real comic book heads talk about it.
And they're like,
this is like number one. And then,
and then like the Heath Ledger movie.
It's crazy how much Batman there is in the universe.
Like there's so, there's so much Batman. There's probably the most Ledger movie. It's crazy how much Batman there is in the universe.
There's so much Batman. There's probably the most Batman out of all those
superhero, most movies, the most
cartoons, the most TV shows.
A lot of Spider-Man. I don't know.
There's a lot of Spider-Man.
There is a lot of Spider-Man.
Can I say this as
someone who likes Spider-Man? There's so much
Spider-Man content I think is not that great.
I don't even think the movie started getting good until recently.
Yeah.
I hated the Tobey Maguire ones.
I gotta admit, I liked the Tobey Maguire ones.
I liked the first one a lot.
I couldn't stand them.
I didn't like the third one.
But yeah, Batman the Animated Series was great.
It was the dude that Kevin Conroy, who Batman, I think she just died this year.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Or last year,
but he had,
he had that iconic Batman voice.
Um,
yeah,
I just,
I remember being pretty young and it being like,
it felt dangerous.
Yeah.
It's like,
yeah,
like you're a grown up.
Yeah.
Like it wasn't for kids.
Yeah.
He's like,
let me watch this.
They don't even know. Davidoren it's time for your third pick
I'm taking
just a classic shoot em up
little kids show I gotta take G.I. Joe
oh yeah it's still on it was the
basis we all had all of
the toys fuck the cobras
yeah just really standard
I had a truck that was really fun a gi joe truck
i had one too i had one that like the sides opened up and you could get little dudes in there
i just i did gi joe with a snowboard my gi joe i remember my gi joe truck had these missiles that
like you pressed the button and it was like and it shot them all out very just simple
not much going on but you don't need much going on with
gi joe you know what i mean yeah just very basic but everybody knew about it
i they had this orange and blue dude that was like a snowboarder is that what did you say that
he had a shield yeah he was my favorite i just like the orange and blue whatever network i was
watching gi joe on when i because it was like i think the orange and blue. Whatever network I was watching G.I. Joe on,
because I think it was on USA or whatever,
when I was watching it in Portland growing up.
There were a bunch of them, though.
They did.
They showed it out of order when I was watching it.
And it was supposed to be serialized,
but they just threw it against,
like, we'll throw this episode on today.
So it just bounced all over the place,
and you're like, what the hell is going on in any of this?
Yeah.
And there's different iterations. Like, one era of them, I swear, looked what the what the hell is going on in any of this yeah and there's like different iterations like one era of them i swear looked like the village people yeah like
where it was like they had like a guy with the sailor cap and then like a guy with like no sleeves
and like a motorcycle shirt for sure like a native american guy yeah do you remember that they did
they did indeed it was like very good but it was yeah it was fun to watch i only vaguely remember
because this is again a brother thing but did they i know it's like you know it's military did
they give the enemies nationalities no i think that they were definitely not white it was it
was like a cobra oh cobra yeah clint wasn't be like so today we're gonna go to russia it was they were gonna go to like wherever cobra was cobra commander kind of it had nazi vibes it felt like dictatory
dictatory yeah yeah because you could still do that i mean when i was a kid i thought all bad
guys were russians yeah just because i mean like you know i also was a big rocky for it was there was an australian guy i remember
sterling who's a good guy bad guy wow and there and they were good guys there was the baroness
yeah who was like a european like again like kind of a nazi yeah they were just like kind
of european bad people like bond villains yeah vaguely european villains yeah uh and then the
good guys were like like a mix of stuff too right they were like all sorts of all kinds of stuff
yeah yeah it was like i just had all kinds of weird skills pretty sure they had some birds
destro so destro had a fortress in scotland so they were everywhere in scotland
yeah he had a building in new york city the cobra consulate that feels like they should
have shut that down quick
consulate i just like them handling stuff it's just thinking about like handling world affairs
thinking about what handling world affairs.
Thinking about what are we going to do after the war?
Like they had cultural attaches too.
Like they had people going to museums and stuff like that.
Sharing the like the art and culture of the Cobra people.
Didn't Cobra have like those gigantic banners in the back?
Was it a country?
Like Nazi-ish.
Like where they had the huge red banners going from like a 80 foot ceiling all the way to the ground.
Didn't Cobra have something like that?
They must have. It's not a country-foot ceiling all the way to the ground. Didn't Cobra have something like that? They must have.
It's not a country.
It's an organization.
This is confusing.
It's an acronym, isn't it?
He's an agent from a race of reptilian serpent people known as the Cobra Law.
Oh, no.
Come on.
This is getting, what?
Oh, no.
A lot of tropes just came out there yeah they did okay
now we know who the villains are
you guys stop it
I didn't know guys
I didn't know it was a kid
I just like to play with the tropes
it's funny.
They like all the like problematic YouTube shit.
Now you could probably just trace back to.
Just some writer who's like,
he watched a little too much.
Looking at his pet snake.
Like,
I don't know.
Maybe it's a snake.
That's funny.
I love the GI Joe's.
I love the toys. I love the videos that dj
doug pound made later i loved all of it pork chop sandwiches uh gi joe excellent pick time for my
third pick with my third pick oh man i'm gonna so i gotta stay in the toy world i think i gotta
take transformers god yeah damn it that was to be the next one. Many different generations of shows too.
Many.
Yeah.
All the way up to Beast Wars.
All the way up to Beast Wars.
Beast Wars was so good.
Yeah.
Beast Wars was so good.
Oh my God.
It was really, really good.
Beast Wars was on in the morning.
Was that after school?
Or after I was in the morning?
I thought it was in the morning before school.
I had a morning one.
It probably aired at different places, different times.
But like it was, if my bus came at 730, it aired at seven.
So it was always like this, like when it would, I would have to always leave at like the last
commercial break and like run up the cul-de-sac to catch the bus because the timing was never
right.
I don't remember Beast Wars.
Am I too old?
You might have been a Beast Wars fan.
That might be a little bit, yeah.
What's Beast Wars?
Oh, really?
Were they like animal transformers?
Yeah.
Yes. But they were on their own
planet. It was awesome.
Animal robots on their own planet?
Yeah. I mean, when you say it like that, it's not as
cool as Snitch. I don't remember the
specifics. More the energy.
It was like early
computer graphic design, too.
I am not a Snitch.
But there was like a gorilla
dude.
There was the gorilla guy there was um a cheetah the cheetah guy yeah that sounds sick i yeah i missed it i mean transformer is amazing
i just missed that being too old yeah it was pretty good though yeah that sounds like the
dinosaur the dino bots i love them i love yeah um but they were great and the transformers
movie which is not part of this pick is like fantastic but these were another ones where
like my older brother got into them first and then i got kind of all the hand-me-down toys and
stuff like that so it was it was perfect it's because it's the kind of thing where you don't
have to start your collection you inherit yeah like and those toys were like top tier kids toys if we're talking about like
coveted children's toys that shit was like i took max to like a play area the other day and they had
bumblebee but it didn't transform it was just an a transformed bumblebee doll and it was just a
chimaera it was just a chimaera like what what was the girl's name oh he was the main guy yeah it wasn't it was sort of it was an
optimist prime obviously no but that's like the role he played uh he was like the optimal
optimist something similar oh maybe maybe because my brother also he had him a toy of him and he
did not integrate well into the barbie cinematic universe but i definitely remember that
toy he was optimus primal was his name optimus primal yeah yeah yeah that was cool wow yeah i
bet you the name came first i bet you the name was the first thing and they're like
different animals.
This is my dream job.
It's so fun.
Let's all transition to the
Hasbro company after this.
They have my sword.
We've done enough in entertainment.
Get out of here. Let's get out of the game.
Great show.
Sean, time for your third and then your fourth picks, friend so my third pick uh i'm gonna go this is one that i loved maybe not
the most popular but we i feel like we kind of for my money we got all the most popular ones
uh i'm picking heathcliff you guys ever watch heathcliff oh really i loved it i liked it i liked it a lot
heathcliff uh he was like a cooler garfield somebody else somebody else
somebody else would pop in i just like heathcliff because he was yeah just like a bat he was just
like a bad guy getting into getting into all kinds of he wasn't like doing great stuff he
was just it's french
it's originally a french show really yeah he's a french character i think yeah wasn't he always
eating fish that's what i remember it was super fun yeah he would do the he would eat fish like
kings eat a turkey leg or whatever he would just like strip it to the bone and the intro was him
like he lived in a junkyard on top of the heap and like the trunk of a car or like the backseat of a like an old Corvette or something like one of those big body cars.
It's like a real bachelor.
When you Google image Heathcliff, the first picture that comes up, this is probably from the comics, is him wheeling a bunch of dogs to the dog catcher.
Yeah.
Oh!
I'm sensing a thing.
Don't shoot.
Now, let's not go down. That feels a little like don't you. Now, now, let's not go down.
That feels a little like a tattletale, baby.
Let's not go down the snitch road.
Snitch city, dude.
Another one.
I'm gonna have to lean in.
He was just like, I just like the stuff that he did, you know what I mean?
He just respected authority.
Rounding up.
For my fourth pick, I'm gonna have to pick, hey, did you see that, teacher?
Did you guys ever see that cartoon?
Hey, teacher, tell them to stop.
Oh, no.
No, I mean, I'm kidding.
I remember watching Heathcliff, though.
I just loved it.
I think those were short, too.
I think those were 15 minutes
because I think the other half
was the aforementioned other cartoon
that maybe sometimes came into Heathcliff's world.
And they didn't like each other,
if I remember right.
I don't think they got along.
Every now and again, they would like mix worlds.
Are you talking about another cat?
Yeah.
There was a rivalry?
Yeah, it was Garfield.
Yeah, Garfield would come in sometimes.
He would?
Yeah.
Out of Heathcliff?
Oh, I didn't even know that.
Are you sure?
Are you sure?
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know.
I don't think they did. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, I didn't even know that. Are you sure? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure. I don't know. I don't think they did.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Well, I'm almost positive that they were in the same world.
I'd love to see it.
That they knew each other.
Listeners, if anybody remembers, let us know.
Or if anybody can find it on Google.
Ian, as soon as this is over, when you start Googling stuff,
throw that on the list, you know?
But I'm pretty sure they did.
That's what my mom says
when she just doesn't believe me
but is done talking about it.
No, it's like this is
murky territory because we're talking about it
and as we're describing these shows,
I'm sure half of the shit we're saying
is just made up.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm like, yeah, this happened to me.
It's a child's memory.
I couldn't Google search some of this stuff
because it was so far back
that there's just not too much of a documented history of it.
What if I made up that whole line about the convertible?
Then you fucking should be writing the next mention.
Yeah, you should be writing cartoons.
I don't think that uh the aforementioned the cat
ever entered the world of heathcliff i think the aforementioned cat did enter the world of
heathcliff so we heard a crossroads production companies i think that maybe i could be thinking
of another cat i just know he didn't i. I don't think I did, bro.
Film Roman versus...
Were there any other cats that would have...
He had his little crew.
He could have a gang of friends.
He had his little crew,
but I thought there was a good cat
that came into their world sometimes.
I could be wrong. i you are wrong i think you can be and are wrong but what you're gonna be right about is your next pick right on time
next pick mask you guys remember mask oh i do remember mask i remember the son of the mask
huh oh wait the jim carrey cartoon no it was uh all these it was
like car it was like a knight rider cartoon kind of like oh so mask it was it stood for something
it was an acronym it was like these people that just they fought crime with another french
cartoon really yeah i'm a little i'm a little french snitch huh that's what we're finding out
yeah that's right you you said it. Mobile Armored Strike Command.
I never saw, I never seen this.
Oh, I love it.
And the main thing that I loved
was the opening credit song.
It was, it got me every single time.
It was secret raiders
who will neutralize all of the time.
It was so catchy.
I loved it.
Telling on your friends.
It looked like it'd be in French. It just on your friends. It looked like a B in French.
It just got me going. It looked like a video game.
They were just tearing ass down the road
right at the TV. I loved it
to pieces. I had a lot of the
toys, which were just the cars.
I enjoyed it.
I didn't look too hard, but I couldn't really find
any shows. I wanted to watch one
just because I think they were whatever. I could watch five minutes and got the vibe, but I couldn't really find any shows. I wanted to watch one just because I think they were whatever.
I could watch five minutes and got the vibe, but I couldn't really find much.
There also was a Jim Carrey mask animated show.
There was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mask.
I only remember the toys.
I never saw the cartoon itself.
God, I loved it.
It was like filling that know, filling that transformer void
that I was going to pick.
That's kind of where Masked...
There's another one too
that I could have picked,
but I didn't, you know.
I like this better
than that other one.
So, yeah, Masked.
Oh, there's the intro right there.
It's so good.
Fantastic.
They even have like an Optimus Prime.
I'm looking at it.
It looks like Optimus Prime
right there.
Snakes.
Anyway, Masked. I think looking at it. It looks like Optimus Prime right there. Snakes. Anyway, mask.
I think it's time for my fourth pick.
And I'm going to take a show that we need more now than ever, I think.
A show that honors the Earth, Mother Earth Gaia, if you will, to give us all life.
A show that incorporates Earth, fire, wind, water.
Oh, man, come on.
And just a little bit of heart.
I'm taking Captain Planet.
Yeah, he's a hero.
Yeah.
Bring pollution down to zero.
I think I remember the entire theme song
as you were saying it.
Captain Planet.
He's a hero.
Gonna take pollution down to a zero he's got powers magnified and he's
fighting on the planet side you can be one too because saving the planet is the thing to do
looting and polluting is not the way here's what Captain Planet has to say. The power is yours.
Holy fuck.
I think that was the whole song, right?
That was the whole thing.
When your powers combine, and then it's like,
Earth, wind, water, and then I am Captain Planet.
Yeah, there was that weird heart guy that we didn't really know.
He was a peruvian
kid with a heart ring dude he's rad but i never knew what the heart ring did like water earth
yeah fire was a bad guy it was right you were always like what i don't i don't understand the
ineffable quality that separates uh humanity from the other animals living on the on the planet you
know captain planet was basically just David Bowie, right?
Yeah, he looked a little bit like David Bowie.
He did.
He looked...
And they were only bringing him in at the end.
You know, they would try on their own
and fuck up and be like,
all right, all right,
get the fuck out of the planet.
He looks exactly like David Bowie.
I'm looking at his hair right now.
It's crazy.
Because he didn't like...
Where did he live?
In the rings?
They summoned him, right? They summoned him, yeah. They put their powers together. He lived in the rings they summoned him right summon him you know they put their
powers together in the rings well it was their powers combining coming together so he was like
a chemical reaction that was like a neighborhood in paris the rings the rings he's from the rings
the bad guys in that show were oh incredible that pig face? Who was that guy?
Hold on.
The villain names are really worth saying
because they're insane.
Hoggish Greedly.
Hoggish Greedly.
That's his name.
Yeah.
Hoggish Greedly.
Where's he from?
Verminous Scum.
Voiced by Jeff Goldblum?
Whoa.
Duke Nukem.
Duke Nukem was a video... I'mkem. Duke Nukem was a video.
I'm yelling.
Duke Nukem was a video game.
Yeah,
they had a Duke Nukem.
Loot and Plunder.
Amazing.
Zarm.
Zarm.
Voiced by Malcolm McDowell.
Who the,
Meg Ryan?
Who the heck are all these angels?
Wow.
Big talent.
They had a Deplista Scum.
Don Porkaloin. Don Porkaloin?
Don Porkaloin?
These names are insane.
Wow.
You can just make up ones.
He's Hoggish Greedly's grandfather, Don Porkaloin.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
This show dealt with serious issues.
Like animal testing was one I remember.
Yeah, I remember that.
Was this more of an early 90s?
I didn't see it.
I didn't see it too much.
Early 90s, yeah.
I think so.
Yeah, I missed the Captain Planet part.
And the good news is the show works.
We all care about the environment now,
and things got 100% better since then.
We fixed it.
Good job, Captain.
He turned it around.
There's a dude named Tank Flusher III,
and he's a bad guy.
Propaganda.
Tank Flusher.
Wow.
That's because you should let it mellow if you pee.
Yeah, if it's yellow, let it mellow.
Yeah, if this guy's flushing after every pee.
Captain Planet, though.
Yeah, that's my fourth pick.
David, time for your fourth pick.
I think I got to take my fourth one.
Another one that started on Saturday morning and left to after school in the same universe as Darkwing Duck.
I'm taking Goof Troop.
Oh, yeah.
Goof Troop.
Best of friends forever.
Remember that?
Yes.
It was so fun.
Jazzy.
Now we're calling everyone.
Come along and join the fun.
You know, we're the Goof Troop.
Let's give it a bop, bop, a do bop.
Yeah.
Wow.
Brought me back.
Yeah, I loved it.
I love Max.
I love Pete, his best friend.
I love Pete, his dad, the bad guy.
I love Goofy was always just trying to be a good single
father i i loved goof troop so i love pete's wife peg she was really funny like it's just
what a great world and then obviously went on to a goofy movie of which i can't shut the fuck up
about on this podcast i love that movie but yeah it's the whole goofy universe had to pick it love
it big max goof fan this one just
slides in on the saturday morning thing too because it was a it was a friday afternoon
block and then they moved it to saturday mornings for 13 episodes see there's the
count 13 episodes back in the original where it's like you probably thought it was
much longer than that it was on for seven years. It was on. There was 78 total episodes spread between two seasons.
That's what these shows were like back then.
Man, those old story orders.
We got a season.
Can you imagine being in that writer's room?
Like, 40 fucking episodes a season?
What's supposed to happen?
What else can they do?
I kind of think we should go back to that because it would make people come up with come up with the most insane ideas possible sure yeah they jumped the shark way quick way quick that
shark got jumped in the third episode they were jumping dolphins whales you know what i mean they
jumped like a trained circus bear i do like that uh mina it is time for your fourth and then your
final picks okay i was actually just googling to see if a show that I thought maybe was on Saturday was on Saturday, but I don't think it was. So I'm going to pivot and go with a show that was definitely on Saturday mornings at one point, and that was Regrets.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, God.
Oh, come on.
Classic.
Kind of like Recess, right? In that it was like about kids having their own society of sorts and rules and all of this and hierarchies in
a small world in this case babies at daycare um which is weird that like kids because i feel like
when you're a kid all you want to do is be an adult but we yeah i don't know why we i enjoyed
a show about babies it was a good show they didn't feel like babies per se in that way though you know what i mean
like they were very like they were mobile they were like yeah what tommy would like get a
screwdriver out and open their playpen and just put the screwdriver down but you're right but
there was this like no that's stupid that's for babies that like that was the thing you know they
like kids say and then yet here we longing for the innocence of youth.
I put it on there.
Dude, it's such a good show.
A weird thing about that show is like pre-Aeon Flux where they would, I remember like when the grandpa would like take a bite of mashed potatoes or something and they would just
show the mashed potatoes, like him chewing.
You remember that?
They do weird stuff on that show.
They would.
Oh, the animation was really wonky.
Yeah.
It was really fun. And it was really fun and it
was shot like from the shot it was drawn from the ground up a lot so you were like looking up at
these grown-ups which was yes i loved that yeah proud jewish representation yeah chuck was it
chuck chucky finkels yeah is that what even tommy pickles if he wants to say he's not jewish
sorry dude tommy pickles could be an enforcer in the mob when he grows up to tommy pickles if he wants to say he's not Jewish, his name's Tommy Pickles, bro. Sorry, dude.
Tommy Pickles could be an enforcer in the mob when he grows up, too. Tommy Pickles.
Okay, I have one more
pick, right? That's right.
Okay, I'm gonna
...
Oh, it's a show
that, as I'm saying this,
I barely remember anything
that happened on this show that's all
right animaniacs oh yeah what was animaniacs about i watched probably there was a lot of
shit going on dozens and dozens of episodes i remember the song i remember the characters but
i don't i could not tell you a single thing there's anything yeah there was baloney in their
slacks yeah It's funny.
I just watched the song last night because I was saying, Boat, I'm like, I know I watched
this show and the song was very important to Saturday morning cartoons.
Come join the Warner Brothers and their Warner sister, Dot.
Just for fun, they run around the Warner movie lot.
They lock us in the tower whenever we get caught.
But we break loose and then vamoose and now you know the plot.
Yeah, dude. It's so so good i love that show can anyone remember a single thing that actually happened on the show i remember the hot nurse they'd be like hello nurse yeah that was like a
big it was just like a they just got into like it was a fever dream they bopped around like the warner brothers
if i remember right it was like chaos and it was so it wasn't like each episode wasn't like
one arc they were like little silly shorts that would happen like each one of them it was almost
like a throwback to like old disney type cartoons yeah it's just like these characters get into
hijinks but nothing really matters there's no stakes there's no like continuity i remember watching there was like a they did like a uh apocalypse
now parody in one episode like yeah they would do they would do like a lot of movie parodies
and pastiches and stuff like that it was it was so good because they were on the warner brothers
love yeah they love movies steven sp Spielberg was the executive producer of it.
And they would make fun of him sometimes.
I bet you if you went back and watched it now, you'd be like, whoa, this is actually way better than I thought.
It seems like it could have had an adult bent to it that we didn't know.
When I was putting together my list for this, I ended up reading the Wikipedia page for Recess.
And there's a whole section on how it had themes about the cold war and i was like what and then i read it and it's like very explicit like geopolitical like uh motifs in the show like
having to be ready for like to if the bomb drops they literally like talk about it in the show
it's not even like thematic.
And I was thinking like, man, I got to set a certain point.
If you make a kid's show, you like, maybe if you're a certain kind of person, want to start putting in adult themes and lessons that kids don't pick up on.
I don't know.
Yeah, it starts creeping in.
I mean, who's it for then?
Us.
Us.
For us to talk about now.
All right.
All right. That's fair. All right. All right.
That's fair.
All right.
I'm done.
Yeah.
I love,
I love that.
I love that show.
That was one of my favorites.
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Friggin' David's final pick.
I think, how am I going to end it?
I think, oh, I just have to take this because of like, just pure 90s cartoon fuckery.
Just, how did they get this made?
It was so silly, but so fun.
Also, not a lot of it, but I think I thought there was a lot of it.
I'm taking Tone Loke starring in the hit cartoon, Seabear and Geronimo.
Oh, yeah.
How many were there?
The funky cartoon that'll have you dancing in the eye.
Yeah, dude.
And the whole show, if you watch it, it doesn't make a ton of sense.
And it's just the bear doing bad stuff
and they could be like see bear no my dad's coming home and see bear is like i'm a crip
i don't know what network was that on i think it was on fox i'm pretty sure it was a fox show
yeah fox kids but there was like a bunch of shows that were specifically marketed towards black kids
and that was like kind of the king of that.
Season one was three episodes.
Really?
Yeah.
They had a kid who was like all about getting money.
Or no, maybe that's a different one.
But yeah, CB Aaron Jamal was just very funny.
Watched it a lot.
I love CB Aaron Jamal.
Even the song was so funny.
It was just kids yelling see bear and your mom yeah
tone loc is like made to voice a character oh tone loc is amazing
yeah it's the smooth ass teddy bear yeah that's we all want him to be our uncle
excellent pick time for my final pick okay
yeah it's a weird yeah you can get whatever you want
I gotta go
I gotta go straight from the heart
I'm gonna take Bobby's World
oh I watched Bobby's World
Bobby's World was great
Howie Mandel
killing it
Howie would be on there right
like in the beginning it would be like Howie talking to cartoon Bobby.
Is that right?
No, I think so.
Yeah.
Or it's the thing we're dreaming now.
No, Bobby would reference him.
He'd be like, hey, Howie, how's it going?
Because the show was about Howie as a kid.
I think you're right.
I didn't know that.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
So Howie would talk to Bobby in the beginning.
And then they'd go, but yeah, come on, that was a great show.
Yeah, it was fantastic.
It was just like the mom I remember being very funny.
I didn't know that was a real accent as a kid.
For crying, you know, she was a real Minnesota accent kind of.
Yeah, I just thought she talked crazy.
I didn't know that that came from anywhere.
I couldn't tell you anything that happened in it again, but I remember I
watched a lot of it. Yeah, like a big
imagination. That was the thing. I guess
that's literally every kid's show.
I remember that song, Fish Don't Stink.
Underwater
the fish don't stink.
Why does that sound so familiar?
Bobby's World.
What was going on?
What was the point of that?
I don't remember.
Damn it.
They didn't go that far.
It was a hit, though.
Yeah, it was a banger.
Fucking hit.
Sean Jordan, time for your final pick.
Muppet Babies.
Muppet Babies. Yeah, that was a great show.
Not again.
Not a huge where I remember the plots of all the episodes but i
watched it every single every single saturday i just watched i mean it was just fun to see
i remember really like me too what a fun idea what if these muppets were babies and they were just
way gnarlier baby versions of themselves great idea catching songs getting into trouble at the
the nursery too getting so much trouble
I feel like that's
a through line
a lot of trouble
these cartoons
are getting into
down in river city
Muppet Babies
yeah man
the one Muppet Baby
who told on
the other Muppet Babies
yeah
Snitch Muppet Babies
Snitchy
Snitchy the Muppet
Snitchy the Snitch
I watched that show
and I'm like
I guess they were all just the Muppets but younger so they had Snitch? I watched that show and I'm like, I guess they were all just the Muppets,
but younger, so they had the same name.
So it was Elmo and Bert and Ernie.
Excellent final pick.
Marissa, do you have a pick?
Yeah, I can't believe this wasn't taken,
but I guess it's from a different generation.
I'm taking SpongeBob SquarePants.
I knew you were going to say that.
Was that Saturday morning?
This is generational.
In Canada it was.
There you go.
I was just talking to somebody.
That's so generational where it's like,
that's like, it's like the line.
Like you either got it or you didn't.
Because the people who grew up with it love it.
I can give a shit less.
But like my little brother's like that,
where it's like, it's like a pivotal show in his life.
It's canonical.
That was canonical. There it canonical. That was canonical.
There it is.
That was Saturday morning Nickelodeon, I think.
For a long ass time.
I think it was like when Nickelodeon started Saturday morning cartoons.
That was like part of their block.
I've never seen a single episode of SpongeBob.
Me neither.
But I use the GIFs all the time.
I'm like, ooh, it's disappointed star guy.
SpongeBob looking through a grate.
But I don't know.
So maybe I'm using them in the wrong context and I have no idea.
Maybe we should do a Spongebob deep dive.
We'll do a Spongebob watch-along podcast.
Just watch one episode for the first time.
And people are going to be so mad.
I kind of find it irritating.
Yeah, I mean, I've never seen it
I'd watch it with my little brother
he liked the movie a lot
so he'd watch the movie sometimes
but too much of it I get very like
Spongebob Squarepants
yeah I wish I had it
but
well to recap here's what we did have
Mina you went first you took X-Men the animated series
Doug, Batman the animated series. Doug, Batman, the animated series.
Rugrats and the Animaniacs.
David, you went second.
You took Recess, Darkwing Duck, G.I. Joe, Goof Troop, and Seabairn Jamal.
I went third.
I took Scooby-Doo, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Transformers, Captain Planet, and Bobby's World.
Sean, you went last. You took He-Man and the Masters of the Universe,
Thundercats, Heathcliff,
Mask, and
Muppet Babies.
We left some picks on the board.
Snorks, Smurfs.
Where are the Snorks?
Tiny Toot Adventures. Did you guys ever watch that?
Oh, yeah. The Tick.
Oh, The Tick was so good.
I had Pepper Ann on here jackie chan had a good
uh animated show jackie chan adventures jackie chan adventures was good that was on the wb
that was a good show but just because of the song again i don't remember any of the gummy bears but
the song ruled but i remember the show though yeah it was a fun show and also like rainbow
bright and strawberry Shortcake,
but I just don't remember anything about them.
But they were fun.
I had those dolls.
The one I was looking at to see if it was on Saturdays
was Hey Arnold, but I couldn't find any evidence
that it ever was on Saturday.
That was, like, a very canonical show.
That show's, like, good now, too.
That was my...
If you just watch it, it's, like, a pretty nice show.
I liked Recess, but Hey Arnold was more my reset. Like, that was a little more it's like a pretty nice recess but hey arnold was more my reset like that
was um a little more similar stuff going on yeah yeah similar i was like in a city i was like
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