Castle Super Beast - CSB 028: Edge your Bing for Memory Leaks

Episode Date: July 31, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ........ Oh, that's nice. Dark Souls 2 is the high point. That's what I thought. Oh, yeah? Yeah. That's nice. Wait, we're hot when the music's on!
Starting point is 00:00:49 I mean, it fades right in. It fades right in. Something like that. What's nice? Oh, Dark Souls 2 was the high point of the old channel. Oh, yeah. That was like the most frustrating piece of work I ever did. Ever.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I wanted to die. In retrospect, that was a good place for me to start on that franchise, I think. Which is baffling, right? But it turns out in the end that 2 is a good starter. Yeah. 2, 2, then 1, then the spin-off, then 3. It gets weird from there, right? It just gets weirder and like, okay, 1 mechanically had some clunks and some bunks, but like the...
Starting point is 00:01:39 But there was cooler shit happening. Dude, there... I didn't even realize this until I went and played the remastered version, but all the other games afterwards had omnidirectional rolling, and 1 didn't. And when I played 1, I didn't think a thing of it. Of course, left, right, forward, back, and then you go back to it after the others, and you're like, oh my god, it's so bad.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's so bad to only... Because you always want to roll diagonal to the right or diagonal to the left. It's kind of interesting. I wonder what a game that... Well, you know, I was going to say a game with like tighter control over your actions, but similar difficulty. It's like, well, then you just have to kind of do like Ninja Gaiden, basically, right? You just make it so that like, you can do anything, but so can they,
Starting point is 00:02:32 and they're moving faster, and then you just get character action. Where either everyone is slow and limited, or everyone is hyper and fast. Well, because Monster Hunter has more control over your actions, but it's just as slow and just as clunking. But also, Monster Hunter has you... You're working away on one thing. Yeah. You know, crowd control doesn't really...
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, Monster Hunter has a highly laser-focused idea of what that game is. And it just builds around that, and that exclusively, indeed it does. Which is, of course, to convert those monster movesets into cards. Yes. For use on the Tepin. Yes. Which I played a little bit more of. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:03:15 I mean... Not much else to say. But I unlocked the Spiky Boy just to see what was going on, and I was like, yeah, that seems like a really easy way to win. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know. The Nurgigante.
Starting point is 00:03:29 He takes the damage, and then he gives it back to you. That's good. But yeah. Yeah. So JoJo did finish, and... It's over. I don't really personally feel like... I don't know if I have to really do a spoiler cast on that.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I don't have to go top to bottom on it. But I have thoughts, and I have a... And especially, I have thoughts specifically on the finale, because it's so different from every other. It's very different. And because it took so many people by surprise, and I'm kind of just sitting back going like, yeah, motherfuckers didn't know about them rocks,
Starting point is 00:04:08 but here we are. So pretty much just going to do a sleeping slaves cast is what I see us getting into a little bit later in this preamble. I have one non-ish, spoilery thing to say about the finale, which is more about the Giorno's character. I don't believe that the way that Giorno is at the end of that story is appropriate
Starting point is 00:04:36 for the ending of a protagonist. I think that that set of abilities is wildly inappropriate for the hero of your story. It's too mean. Well, two things. Well, there's multiple things, and should we just start with it then? All right, so we're going to start talking about JoJo,
Starting point is 00:05:01 part five, Vento Oreo, the golden wind, if you haven't seen the finale, we're going to be going into that. Pissing in the wind, that's what it is. And I'm going to not go further into the parts. I'm going to just keep it. Yeah, keep it five. Keep it five.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I'm going to keep it five. Great. So the story ends like... At the beginning. Five minutes into the second to last episode. Yeah, right. It's instantaneous. And everyone goes, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Because the story was actually over before the hiatus went. The moment Gold Experience Requiem punches you, you are done. You now no longer have a timeline to return to. The cut that King Crimson does, this is the cut that happens at the end point where you delete the rest of the video.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And then you just loop the last one, infinity as if an EXE file has an exception. And then it just keeps... And it plays that awful sound effect. Right? So that's when the actual story was done. And what we were waiting on those two weeks or three weeks for was just like,
Starting point is 00:06:15 okay, what does it look like when that happens? And more importantly, what is the deal with this epilogue chapter? So to answer your question right off the bat, like it wasn't a question, but the way Giorno ends up is he ends up with God-level abilities, right? Hanging out.
Starting point is 00:06:34 But here is the rub. Gold Experience Requiem does not actually tell Giorno what it does. Yeah, I know. Giorno himself has no idea what happened to Diavolo. It just knows in his heart. The stand tells him, tells Diavolo directly, this is what's happening to you.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But once that time is done and we return to normal time, Giorno has no idea what took place. I paused him and he just took it. It was weird. All he knows is he has a strong new stand and he can feel something conclusive has happened. But he doesn't exactly know what his stand does
Starting point is 00:07:13 and that's probably for the best. Because as we've seen with both examples, Requiem is the ability to edit reality for real-reals, right? So the other thing, of course, is like the note it ends on with him being the gangster getting kissed on the ring. It's like, yeah man, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:07:33 he still is that boy that stole Koichi's luggage and drove off, you know what I mean? Apparently I was talking to somebody and they say that how do we get from the end to that? And apparently he just tells everybody, yeah, I was the boss the whole time. Well, that's, okay, so here's the thing. That's from Purple Haze.
Starting point is 00:07:53 From what I understand, is that confirmed? Because I don't know if that's confirmed, but the active theory most people had was he probably just said, yeah, it was me. It was me the whole time. And that leads into Diavolo's actual demise where the whole anti-climactic feeling that you might have gotten,
Starting point is 00:08:17 I feel like I like sleeping slaves a lot as an epilogue because I like what I feel it means. And this is the part where Willy might just be going and fapping in his own head. Okay, let's hear the fat. But I want to hear it. But I think it, I like to, in my head, I'm like, all right, he probably had a reason
Starting point is 00:08:38 why he wanted to end the story on this note, you know? So, yeah, okay, if Purple Haze feedback does confirm that that's what he did, then that's cool. And yes, the whole thing takes place in a week, right? I saw that. But the whole thing takes place in a week? Yeah. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah, so part one is like fucking literally years, spanning 10 years. I mean, it's from childhood to adulthood and beyond, right? From childhood to marriage. Part two is maybe a month, maybe two months. It's that during the war, it's that period of time. Part three has an explosive 30-day time limit. 50 plus a couple of...
Starting point is 00:09:15 You would have got that question wrong on Joe Jopretty. Oh, whatever. And four is... Four is also a short period of time, but like, nothing like the literal one week. The problem with four is that in between each little adventure, there's no explanation of how much time has passed since the last one.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, it's 1999 bizarre summer. Yeah. So you get your June, July, August out of that. And then here we get a fucking week in Italy, you know? So, sleeping slaves, right? The story just starts out. And at first you're like, we're seeing a flashback to the boys. So there's a point to it in that like,
Starting point is 00:09:58 especially because Fugo got it so rough being fucking ejected out of the story. Yeah. Right? He ejected himself. The fact that you get to have a moment where you come back and see them together is meant to be like that little, that type of send-off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And it's more than just them. Like, if they wanted it to just be that, they would have just ended it with them eating around the table. And it would have been like, member of the good old days. Ending. Right? But they decided to go into an actual arc that lasts an episode and a half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Right? They meet Scolopy, basically the Jesus. Uh-huh. Right? He's got the crown of thorns on his head and he's got his stand, the Rolling Stones, which God bless, I love that we're getting all these really influential bands making a different, like that matter.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You know? There's been crawling stones or whatever the fuck they called it. I don't give a shit. It's the Rolling Stones, man. So, uh, you walked in here with a question and the question was, did Mista kill Narancia in a buck? And everybody explicitly biked his course of action. And the answer is yes and no at the same time.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Right? And, uh, like, in terms of the deliberates of the question, it's like that stone shows up based on final destination rules. It's your time. It's your time. Right? It was Bruno's time, or at the very least, he was shown to be next. He was going to die by the end of the week, no matter fucking what.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And the death that we saw within the stone is King Crimson ripping a fucking hole in his body. Yeah. Right? Which totally did happen anyway. That is where you are fated to go. Yeah. Um, the stone, of course, is like, if you accept the stone,
Starting point is 00:11:32 then you can die now, stop peacefully, but you can reject it and die and suffer. Um, Mr. Goes through as much trouble as he can to basically get that to not happen. Yeah. Um, and then by touching it creates that chain of events where now the thing's going to follow you. Now it's going to do things differently.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And of course, uh, the stand user himself doesn't fully understand it. However, if you destroy the, the, the Rolling Stones, it's shown that like you can escape fate. It's still the dust itself is going to show you the faces of those who are next who are now the fucking passionate gang. Right. Um, the thing about that is, uh, well, one for one, I mean, it's like, did he kill them?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Well, it's like, if he didn't kill them and Bruno died in that church, then the rest were going to die when King Crimson came out to wipe out everybody who knew about his daughter. So that was a guarantee, right? That was not going to, they were not making out, they were not going to make it out of that anyway. Um, but the second thing is that I think the point of putting that, there is to just double down on like a part of it's,
Starting point is 00:12:39 there's a lot of things that you can assume are the thesis statement of what journal is, but like, I feel like a lot of what I wanted and why I was disappointed in part five ultimately is because I wanted more of this struggle of what it means to be Dio's son, which is right away. And they, they, they gave me one bone in that new intro where he turns and he's got the fucking, he's got the hands out and I was like, Oh, you got it in there. All right. You did that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But that might, I wanted more of that struggle in there, right? But at the same time, the whole idea of fate versus like your will to fight against it, which is obviously like an ongoing thing with journal in this case, it's like your blood, your literal bloodline, you know, like is also something that you don't even know what that you're coming from like evil. You're coming from like 200 years of cursed blood. And you know, and like the idea that like he's going to go against
Starting point is 00:13:39 that without even really knowing that's what's happening, I think is a big part of what his character is supposed to be. So he's challenging that, right? When you look at, actually, let me switch gears because I want to talk about this first before coming back to that. Go for it. His ending and what he gets hit with is so unfair and brutal, right? It's like, I think, I think Giorno having a power that puts people,
Starting point is 00:14:08 anyone, anyone ever in the future that he ever deals with into an infinite nightmare death loop is horrible. It's almost like purple haze, but worse. Yeah, that stand is overkill for the situation. Yeah. Yeah. Like what if some generic assassin dickbag attacks him in the future and just gets that one would hope that purple haze itself is
Starting point is 00:14:31 aware enough to not make people suffer internally further for that sin, you know, but nonetheless, the way Diavolo gets it, you're like, that's cars at infinity. Yeah, because cars gets to stop thinking. At least cars stops thinking. Therefore, we can rest assured that he has a moment no matter how long it took him where he's at peace for all the things he did. But also, even if not, even if not, he's not in a permanent state
Starting point is 00:15:00 of nightmare, infinite agony. Yeah. He's just really bored. Yeah. So until now, here's the thing. You can argue that stimulation might make it better. I don't know, man. Continued stimulation, even in the form of torture, might make it
Starting point is 00:15:13 better than zero. I don't think that's it's a while. I think when you look at Diavolo, like a pretty much shitting his pants, looking at a little girl, you can think that's better. It's bad, bad, bad, no matter how you slice it. But until until proven otherwise, safe to assume that that is fucking the worst way you can go in JoJo, right? Now, while that is like not equivalent to his sins in a way,
Starting point is 00:15:45 there is still a thing to think about where it's like it is fitting of his it is fitting of what he represents to get his it's a comeuppance for what he represents. He represents absolute control over fate or like he represents. Let's remember his origin point. He came from us. He came from a two year pregnancy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Okay. In a prison and then when he next he was he was found by a priest growing up in a village where he meets some lady who's probably Trisha's mom. The priest goes in to help him out and finds that mom with her mouth sewn shut under his floorboards and goes, what the fuck is happening? Hard cut to the the village burns the whole village and everyone in it. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:32 He's one of he has a shitty beginning and then he sees that as his victory over that. Yeah. And then he also gets with the cards and by finding the arrow, he calls the arrow his prize for conquering his fate. Right. So his whole thing is almost basically like the things that I get are what I deserve and this is what I have coming to me and no one else deserves it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 He talks about fates for me. It's for me. It's his thing. It's all it's all coming from this place of its mind to control and I I will do what I will with it and know and like what happened back there. Nothing. Don't worry about it. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You don't know who I am. Don't worry about my thing. Yeah. When you basically take away when you look at it and you go like, OK, fates is the control. He's he's like, you know, he's he's determined to have that as his big whole fucking obsession. Yeah. Every one of those shit kids all had a shitty upbringing as well.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Oh, yeah. They all had garbage fucking trash. Oh, yeah. You know, childhoods that led them to the place they're at. But the difference is that they are choosing to still do the right thing and not be psychomurderers with what they did. So basically the cards we got dealt are not the cards we're going to have to stick with. We're going to do what we can.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You are more than you're nonsensical to your pregnancy and and and fucking Diavolo's like no, this is all we are and this is all I want. And I'm going to make it so I can't believe that was never gone into once ever. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Like it's it's like like the actual shit like every like crazy monster villain or whatever from, you know, just weird ass pregnancy is when it all starts, you know. But regardless, those characters all had their own shit and they go against it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So they exist and they're like, fuck you, we had bad shit too. Right. You know, whatever. And the second of all the people that like exist with their powers or whatever, the one who he fucking personally goes and punches through the fucking chest is the guy who stand is like, hey, look, what happened back there? Nothing. What happened back there?
Starting point is 00:18:50 Nothing. I'm going to use my stand. You can you can't escape reality. Yeah. Right. Reality is what happens in the past. And like Moody Blues will always show you what happened no matter what. And Diavolo is like, kid Crimson, wipe, delete.
Starting point is 00:19:05 No, that didn't happen. But it did happen. But you it's here. Right. And so he hates the past and he hates that aspect of things. And thus he would absolutely loathe something like Moody Blues being against him because it's like his whole fucking paranoia about his identity and everything. This one stand is about not letting you escape from the things that happened.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Right. So when Giorno basically gives him that little speech speech at the end about how like reality is the only truth of this world. It's a very vague sort of heroish statement. But like the way I took that is him basically giving him the deal that it's like you can't like and then he takes he says reality is the only truth of this world and he says like the deaths that the previous members had up to this point will have a meaning because they're there will carry us and meet carries on in me so you can choose to interpret it
Starting point is 00:19:59 that way. But your death will have no meaning ultimately because you're you will not have a real also doesn't live for anything. And you will have no reality and no one will know and you will just be nothing. Right. So in that sense like someone who's obsessed with with with seizing fate to the point of like editing it in the moment and denying the past now gets to have no future. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's it's it's extra goofy because he doesn't have an ending even. He his fate doesn't conclude. It just stops. Yeah. It's and it's not even like it's like it's like you are robbed of yet any conclusion. It's the final act indefinitely over and over. You know to know to no end. So I knew that he got it that bad.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But what I didn't know see what I had assumed when somebody said that the fucking gold experience Requiem returns him to zero upon the moment of his death. Yeah. So I had assumed that he would be trapped in a time loop of him getting beat to death by Gold Experience Requiem. I did not expect him to be teleporting when your wiki dive it. I was not expecting him to be teleporting to alternate realities to get final destination. He will die in every conceivable way including on the operating table and unable to move
Starting point is 00:21:27 and so on and so forth. The first one is like the most horrifying. I can think of. Well the first one is real. Sorry the second one. Yeah. The first one is real and it's also appropriate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Because he gets stabbed by some crazy drug addict that he created. Ha ha ha. And then the rest just plays out. But like the you can't move on the operating table. Yeah. And then totally the worst. And that's a tone setter for where the rest of that goes because when he's quivering. It's like yeah because he just got he just went through.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah. The worst one you can possibly imagine right. Will there be snoo snoo in there. Yes there will be. There will be guaranteed. There will be infinite snoo snoo by by definition. Right. I remember.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But the but the whole point. Sorry go ahead. I remember somebody mentioning that due to the goofy nature of what's implied that that might continue infinitely regardless of all other circumstances. Yeah I don't know. Double infinite. I don't know. Imagine.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That's why that's why I said we're going to start here. Right. However one thing is that with all that we can look back and go. Thus the point of passion a right the real passion a whatever the fucking the gang star squad. Yeah. Is to like defy that defy his whole thing say that where you came from doesn't determine where you're going.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah. And ultimately to show you as well through like Bruno basically and and Giorno fucking with literally what fate says needs to happen. Yeah. He's like no we're not done yet. We're still on this mission and Bruno like pretty much figures out he's like oh I'm a fucking zombie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 But I don't care because this is more important. And the thing with Rolling Stone does put a cap on like hey how come Bruno got to be a weird zombie. And it's because his fate was defied. It was defied. You broke the final destination rule. And on top of that you had an asshole like Giorno. That's just binding you together.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. Right. Like that's the whole thing. And you're your determination. Yeah. Right. Like you're you're driving your well to just keep that shit going. So all of that adds up and then and then it's like yeah like everybody shit on Fugo
Starting point is 00:23:42 for not wanting to follow a literal zombie. Yeah. To his annihilation you know like fuck. But anyway so defying the odds. Why didn't Fugo just go into the church and just fill it up with evil death gas and the whole whole place. Yeah. Just fill the whole place up with death gas.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Also the fact that they are willing to sacrifice their own lives on a heartbeat to make sure that they they can save each other. Which is what Skolope sees goes like I hope that they can like twist this cursed fate around. I hope they're not sleeping slaves but yeah they wake up and do what they will with their own you know destinies. So when Rolling Stones enters the picture it's just a way of Iraqi basically going in addition to them being fucked right from just King Crimson and Diavolo being that much more insane of an ability in addition to them having all the odds against them in life and
Starting point is 00:24:39 in addition to them having zero information to go on they're also explicitly fated to lose. They were before they even met Giorno they were double fucked right. Rolling Stones existing on its own is equally as bad as every other thing that happened to them in the story right. So all the weight they were carrying was twice as hard they were super gonna die no matter what. Which Mista is still fated to die yeah right.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And of course the way you exploit Rolling Stones is by if you don't show up you can do things crazy and stay alive whatever. But regardless it was just to say and despite those double odds they still made it so it's kind of meant to just be like a like you didn't know it but the whole time it was even worse and they still succeeded. Man Fugo sucks. Fugo sucks ass. Fugo sucks ass.
Starting point is 00:25:31 You know am I wrong about Mista being fated to die? Yeah you super are. Why is that? Why is that? He's never fated to die his face never appears. He touches it. Let me pull that up on the stone because I thought his face was on the stone. No no it's Bruno and then when it snaps it's Bruno, Narancia and Abacchio.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Mista was actually totally fated to live. Okay why does Fugo suck? Cause he's quit. Yeah he fucking quit. But like again think about it's one you can delete fights from the story if Fugo had tagged along. I need to actually read Purple Hayes feedback so I can catch his entire like the whole thing where they explore what and why because that's what it's about.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's about Fugo explaining his mentality and it's also about Giorno giving him another shot. Now I understand that he had a stand ability that could never be used in any of the locations they ever fought. True OP. Way too OP. But not even like too OP. Like let's say it's not that OP but he could never ever ever like all the all the fucking
Starting point is 00:26:50 stories fights take place in Venice or Rome or big crowded locations surrounded by people. Like almost like Chocolata same deal except Chocolata doesn't give a fuck. Right. Yeah. It's like I beat you stand user I also killed like one hundred babies. Oops. Yeah. Yeah that's not great.
Starting point is 00:27:13 That's not great. And of course what I'm happy about too is people immediately like everyone who who already read part five was bursting at the seams holding back the part where the beginning of fighting gold at the foot of the statue rolling stones is in the background and it's even the dark it's only it's even the gross one with the brutal version. You have to up the brightness to see the face on it. I can see it on my TV. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah. And then again in the future future crusaders. Yeah you see the regular rock you see it on but you see this the sphere exactly which then gets edited to make sure you understand so no no you've been looking at it the whole time and then Mr. sees another rock at the end that makes him think of it. The goofiest thing the goofiest thing is that when you were you talked about the rolling stone I don't know six weeks ago that they got it in there. I thought what you were referring to is when they beat Requiem.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I thought that was the orb behind your head that casts the shadow and I was like oh that's pretty crazy the light shining. Yeah. No. I looked at it as a orb. Yeah no no no no no that that so that's a wild one but I was hard talking about rolling stones. Yeah I know that now.
Starting point is 00:28:38 At the foot of the statue at the foot of both statues yeah right and one of those things are you're just like I can't can't talk about it till you get there. No one even knows that there's they should be looking for a sphere you know. Spheres are bad. Cube's good. Not to mention so one of the fun parts about the seven stand user is that you encounter the rolling stones and it moves like one space every time you move a space but it will follow you through rooms and it will follow you through walls and it is there in the across if you
Starting point is 00:29:12 touch it it follows you the entire game and if it gets to you you're dead like there's a whole fucking thing and there's a point there's an escape point whenever when you encounter it but it's a lot of fun that they did that yeah so that's that's it I think the point of sleeping slaves was to just show you that the weight was twice it was weighted clothing yeah right in addition to the struggle and they still made it so yeah man god bless good stuff you know just cuz it falls short in my opinion it's just because I enjoy the other Jojo parts more does it mean this is the bad part because it's still really now that I fully experienced five yeah it's probably my least favorite but but Jojo's bar but
Starting point is 00:29:57 it's super high it's just because I feel there's a lot of little missed opportunities the thing the promise of a child of Dio and Jonathan right is really really interesting to explore and I feel like I was waiting for that and I never really got it you just got a little you got the mood and you got the poses and you got things where he goes like when someone said like what if like Giorno represents what if Dio was a good person right because it's like what does he share he shares the ambition right wherever my circumstances are I want to make it to the top it's like yes but at the same time like you could have you could have led more of Dio's personality into him or you could have made it more of a struggle you
Starting point is 00:30:50 could have had the Jonathan aspects of his personality had him be the exact same character except that his goals are noble like the exact same person like just dirt dirt dirt but I want to save the city from drugs it's I mean again I don't know I also felt that like the probably the biggest weirdo part to me of the whole part that really muddled it for me is something I I think I asked you like two months ago which was I walked in here and went is Bruno the main character he and you just kind of shrugged and you're like he should be because that's the other thing and when you said like Giorno could be the same that's where I go I disagree with that because to be honest like Giorno is not as compelling there's a blog literally called a
Starting point is 00:31:45 journal smile every day and they're all just him with resting bitch face because he doesn't really smile you know and that's fine ultimately but I'm not and I'm not saying he needs to be a taunter like Dio is but he needs more personality I felt like he reminded me of like a kind of blank slate type of character yeah a little bit which is not what any other Jojo is you know even when they're at their most quiet they're still overwhelming amounts or there's overwhelming amounts of burning something inside like Giorno is whether it's burning honor nobility you know whether it's burning go fuck yourself yeah right whether it's burning just smoldering anger or like smugness you know like it's all there's something in there that's going like Giorno
Starting point is 00:32:35 is a actual blank can't like his face is just always emotionless but even him you can tell that underneath that there's a lot going on he's actually a pretty nice guy he cares about his people he's he just he's not very emotional outward right but with Giorno it's just like I kind of felt he was just waiting to say oh you did a good job mr. getting shot all those times having a dream is not enough you know that's the start of something interesting and then you got to take it from there and I think Bruno like I got yeah I just got such and Bruno is like his backstory perfectly sets him up to do what he does Diablo yeah yeah to do what he does he does yeah so you know hide in this room and stab anyone that comes up my dad and I mean like Jotaro like
Starting point is 00:33:26 even though he was also just the stoic silent type he has the bit which is like I'm so I'm so stoic and silent that that's gonna be the punchline in multiple occasions where it's just like the only reason you lost is because you pissed me off did you seriously say that you know I think like I think the absolute like because Jotaro doesn't show a lot of his personality right he does that you know he writes the check to Steely Dan and they just pretty great he he tells the other person to say something cool yeah he'll he he he yells at his mom but then he's like oh you're doing okay and Holly sees through it stuff like that but I think the number one thing that we got to see like what who is Jotaro is in for when he encounters Kira and he throws down a line about
Starting point is 00:34:17 he's got a nice looking watch but I'll break it so you can't tell the time I mean your face that is and it doesn't hit at all it's a terrible line and then he does it again just does a different version of the same line yeah which is like oh my god while every fight in Stardust Crusaders he's fighting but in the back of his mind I got I gotta I gotta see something really cool about justice or like what now here's the bit right when you think about it he does the same thing every Joe star has a moment early on where you have to define what they're about right this is this is the right thing to do with any new story where you're learning your new character and you want to find out particularly in Jojo you're always going what makes you a unique Joe star compared to the last
Starting point is 00:35:05 set right yeah and right off the bat you establish Jonathan by looking at the way he treats like saving Erina he's the ultimate shovelers hero and then Erina is like oh my god my hero and he's like it wasn't for you it was for for being a gentleman and for honor and then he turns and goes away and then Joseph has his moment where he's in the plane and then he's like let's crash this fucking plane because I'm not gonna deal with your stupid shit you criminals right and then also a Tommy Gern yeah so easily sets himself up is like just a wild hard-ass that's completely opposite of what we just saw you know and so for Joe Joe to row it's when he's when he go he does his judge speech against Cacoy and he's like because the law and and the victims and our
Starting point is 00:35:53 society like you can hide from them with your stand therefore my stand will be the judge and he goes off on that whole bit that's his like establishing my my my character moment and journal has those I totally agree with Joe to row except for one thing the moment that I like because I watched the old OVA and I thought Joe to row was cool but when I watched the new anime there's the one line he says in that judgment speech that just kills me inside it makes me love him so much when I hate the food I stiff the bill it's it's so specific because he's like listen I might be a bad guy when I I leave without paying all the time and it's like that's that's Joe to rows baseline for being a bad person scumbag basically yeah yeah I like you'd
Starting point is 00:36:47 look at you'd you'd think that like on appearance Joe skate would be the type you know but like he's like nah let's let's like go and hustle these lotto tickets right yeah but you but like Joe to row straight up is like fuck that food I'm out this food is terrible oh all smoke in public I will yell at my fangirls right and yeah anyway I'm such a badass like you can hear him saying it like I'm so fucking cool and tough it's like oh man he really goes he goes over the top to make sure he appears cool and meanwhile he's hanging out with the horse girl in the back of the class doodling dolphins yes so Jonah Giovanna has a dream but like that's and he has charisma yeah he has it that's what leads everyone to follow him but then it kind of stops a little bit you know
Starting point is 00:37:41 and I mean his his his blood and his determination take him far enough and it's fine but yeah that's I wanted I wanted more of a struggle with Dio's elements playing into totally nailed it for me the the story tells you he's the most charismatic guy and everyone's like there's just something about him I gotta follow him but Bruno is actually displaying way more charisma yeah yeah and like when I think about that compared to like the speech that Dio gives where he's talking to either who was it it was cackling or Polnareff was cackling where he convinced where he like convinces him to his side or whatever and like cackling season for the first time and he's like I was fucking terrified to the point where when he kind of showed up behind me and just went hey man let's be
Starting point is 00:38:31 friends he's like I was so relieved like oh thank god yeah what anything anything because I'm otherwise I'm just dead you know so like that kind of moment really shows you what that charisma thing is about you know and like yeah you're watching Bruno demonstrate it a hundred percent um that's the golden wind you know it's good but also the golden wind is also literally the wind that blows as as Bruno goes to heaven yeah it literally turns gold and then he pulls the fucking arrow out of it and does his bit can I can I can we take a Jojo tangent here it's been established that if you're really close to somebody you get to see their ghost leave yes and talk to you yes and all sorts of shit oh yes also bloodlines allow you to sense when your family members are
Starting point is 00:39:19 nearby which I you know I thought it was silly when it got introduced except it has been totally a mainstay of the whole series the whole time the whole time um but more than anything all I can think of is you know what happened with Joseph back in the day his ghost was like Jodoro I'm a deadass old man ghost and I'm going to heaven you gotta beat Dio okay bye and then evaporated into heaven and then like like an hour later he came back to life with vampire blood yeah what the fuck you don't question our ecce is the answer to that you don't question that and then later and then later just you know what it was he didn't get the little cherub baby angels shut up the little cherubs around Bruno are how you know he's gone for good and then later Jodoro has the audacity
Starting point is 00:40:22 to tell Josuke there's nothing anyone can do to save the dead once their soul has departed not to mention Joseph having the audacity to be like oh Dio it's me and uh Jodoro is like I will rip you to pieces old man what talk to me about weird Al did weird Al sing like yeah who sung the song eat it uh eat it instead of beat it you know it's like it's just a prank bro it's just a prank why what a this is minutes after Polareff's near death Cacuine's death Avdol's death Iggy's death and he's like this too was a question on Joe Jopretty he can't turn it off fuck you Joseph you god damn uh anyway god bless um yeah yeah yeah it's silly shit I was gonna say that uh uh oh yeah no just that last like shout outs to uh David production and everybody out in the
Starting point is 00:41:18 Jojo team because they did a final variant intro for two episodes yeah immediately followed by the last one that was the sound effects version just to say they did them all yeah they never missed a sound effect version and they never missed a beat on it but for literally just that one week you got to see the undoing of King Crimson and then the rewind of the song and then it goes back into the chorus like super chill really really nice because that takes place there's like gold experience is like a flash like it's there and it's over yeah he takes back the intro and he does the most dragon ball thing in Jojo outside of Koichi's hair literally going super saiyan you know what that's the other thing that actually kind of bummed me out
Starting point is 00:42:08 once the arrow got introduced and it was a race to the arrow I'm like the hero winning because the hero becomes stronger than the villain is unsatisfying to me in most cases um like even like even over like they just wanted it more like Jonathan just wanted it more than Dio did on that boat Joseph is an asshole and him winning out of luck is more like fun to me than uh like the fucking eyes of heaven LP that we did we both groaned when it's like oh star star platinum can also do also Jonathan didn't only want it more he specifically created in my in my like coming up with the questions and going back over my research uh he specifically created that circumstance he punches Wang Chung Wang Chen's head off yeah and then forces his
Starting point is 00:43:04 body with the ripple to grab the beers of the boat and crash it so he created that entire because he wanted it more well yeah yeah and then he was willing to to foresee a win that included his own death yeah Joseph bullshits with the redstone as you said um he didn't win yeah he just didn't lose yeah yeah Josuke gets Jotaro it gets the same power but he's not better he's not stronger than Dio at it he's actually way weaker but he outsmarts him Josuke and the gang out smart out smart Kira and his powers are fucking nuts and even and here's the thing here's why it's satisfying they don't actually win against him in the sense that he survives that encounter when he's fully outsmarted but then bullshit luck comes into play you know so that's fine because it's like you
Starting point is 00:43:57 lost what mattered but then Giorno goes Super Saiyan and is the winner yes because he's stronger yeah and it's like I get because fate it's a thing but still it's like yeah I mean Jonathan's the only one that really just takes it yeah like definitively takes it and he doesn't definitively take it later yeah yeah yeah yeah and then we won't talk about the future you know um it's it's really kind of wild how like a lot of these endings end up being like yeah you didn't win you just didn't lose yeah you know because really you did give the enemy god power yeah and they're gonna use it you know um two coffins what are you gonna what are you gonna what there was a there's a false bottom in the coffin and they threw the coffin back in the ocean even George Joestar didn't
Starting point is 00:44:49 win it's like you found the Nazis a vampire you found the last of Dio's brood congratulations now you're fucking dead Lisa Lisa though all right um just a spoiler cast over sleeping slaves cast sleep whatever yeah over great you put a time stamp in there if you like or not whatever how's your week uh I took the week off from streaming last week because restarted my computer it was acting a little goofy and then uh the pc says it will not boot because I have a cpu temperature error I like huh and I go into the the the boot the bios and my cpu is running at 62 degrees before the computer is even fully on and I go hmm oh that's not good so then I boot it Celsius oh yeah I boot it and I'm like oh this is idling at 65 to 70 idle
Starting point is 00:45:52 and then I'm like hmm then I load up like monster hunter 100 instant instant as soon as the fucking thing turns on I'm like okay no OBS for this computer this week uh turned out the pump died that's what I was about to say last time that happened to me it was the dead pump so hey I have a piece of advice that I I hope you can agree with what uh water cooling not all it's cracked up to be well to be fair when that happened to me it happened once in years yeah right and it does happen that water will eventually need servicing somehow right either the pump the fan the water but but unlike a normal coolant system where oh it doesn't work time to shut it down yeah you can actually use your computer with a busted water coolant system for a bit longer yeah and then
Starting point is 00:46:46 notice that uh oh nothing's getting cooled so I'd been having uh a week and a half two weeks of OBS crashing in the middle of my streams couldn't figure out why guess what it's because my CPU was red lining excuse me right uh yeah but water cooling see here's the here's my problem water cooling right the fan is encased in a in a in a sheet essentially you can't really see the fan spinning when when my heatsink fan breaks I can look at it I can open my pc and I can see it and go this fan's not fucking spinning it's not spinning and I can repair the fan yeah on a heatsink yeah I just you know pop it up I can't repair a water cooler yeah uh you can hear it not doing its thing well I I can touch it I have a whole fucking case dedicated to killing sound so I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:47:36 so asked uh asked a nice computer man in the local area well the local area of Montreal to help me with my computer problem got a good noctua heatsink in there got more fans everything very helpful and I would like to give this gentleman a shout out because this is the best computer service I have ever used it is a so it's only Montreal area because it's a dude it's KSK computers and the reason why I was so impressed is I called him up and said hey can you help me fix my computer he's like I'm busy I can fix it on Friday and it was Tuesday at the time like ah it's a bummer right but fine but on Friday the guy drove to my house picked up my computer took it away then came back five hours later and handed me my computer back
Starting point is 00:48:30 with all the parts repaired serviced and replaced awesome like I was without my pc for a total of one afternoon so it was also very nice and helpful and polite and nice and kind so that's KSK computers in Montreal it's very very helpful extremely good service man but and meant that didn't stream last week but I did play one new video game which I if you have any interest in the genre you should probably pick up woolly have you heard anything about the new fire emblem yeah I heard that the three schools three houses three family fire emblem three houses heard it's heard it's it's the big new one and I heard that it's got like an overworld now so the biggest problem that I had with fire emblem because ostensibly as somebody who loves strategy
Starting point is 00:49:25 RPGs who liked the disguise series who loves FFT who whose favorite games in the Genesis era of the shining force games I should love fire emblem except my biggest problem with fire on them is that in almost all the fire emblem games you are a per you are like a monopoly figure on a map and you move that around and that's it for three houses they have a big old fancy cathedral that you would explore month week to week persona style and page is the first one that said it to me I don't know if she's the one who came up with it she says she isn't she says other people saying it but people are calling it Shin Megami sensei in that this is a persona game now just through and through remember time pregnancies from the awakening that's gone you're no longer getting
Starting point is 00:50:17 your units time pregnant which is nice because that was creepy so how do you make the babies now you don't there's no time babies there's no babies time babies are gone so now you just find people yeah now you just hang out with people okay and almost the whole cast is right there at the very beginning okay it's just when you start you pick one of the three houses and that is your primary roster of eight to ten people and then you can poach people from other houses as you go through the game um it's really really really good it's really fucking good and it's basically still just fire emblem it's basically they added a lot of stuff to the fire man is combat is combat for so they added a lot of stuff to that that makes it a lot more forgiving in my eyes the biggest one
Starting point is 00:51:06 is that if you play in classic or the classic fire emblem way which is permadeath permadeath yep the biggest problem that I had with the old games is that you would hit a button and you'd see where enemies could move but you never really had a good indication of what enemies would attack what units and then they would all pile on this character that you thought would be relatively ignored and then that character would die right so not only do you have the ability to rewind a couple times the fight just straight at rewind like go back five moves but also when you move a character into a spot that is dangerous you will see a little threat red line jump off of enemies and all hit that character so you'll have situations where you move so you move it'll guard
Starting point is 00:51:48 four or two spaces and six enemies will have red lines shoot off of them onto her are you committed to the move no okay you can back it out you can back it out so you'll see okay if I move this character here this character will die yep and then you can mix and match and go okay such and such as priority as this guy such as such priority as this guy and it gives you a lot more control over it cool in addition month to month it's it's our week to week it's not day to day like persona it's it's literally it's literally just persona instead of walk around your town and walk around talk to people how do you want to spend your time okay do you want to you want to do you want to learn a class you want to teach class you want to do a battle drill do you want to do this
Starting point is 00:52:31 and it's funny but like are you building your social are you building up your fight ability okay so there's three main things that you could do you can either build up your your your social links with your class by hanging out with them or doing class stuff with them you can build up your character by having other professors instruct you or you can have just hit battles and gain exp and it has all that meld into each other and it's great and probably the best thing that I can say about it is that the fire loom stuff it's a fun strategy RPG with lots of depth and classes all that stuff I have not talked to I page is playing it I have another friend that's playing it we have not talked once about fights ever not a once who cares who cares interesting okay really
Starting point is 00:53:23 it's about are we able to get burn a debt out of a room I don't know man Ferdinand such a chode why has he got to be all about the nobles all time sounds like that's what people wanted of from those characters all along in a way because I feel like a fire emblem characters showing up in in smash and such has created like so it's created like a a fandom where people want to spend more time with these characters besides just these little in-between cutscene battle moments from the previous games so that's a pretty so now so it's you know you have your your your s-link rankings for you and every character but every single character has that with every single other character and I know that was in the past but it's the first time I've been
Starting point is 00:54:09 experiencing it there's a lot here now I can all I haven't looked but I can feel fire emblem die hearts being very mad and it reminds me let me see not really not really yeah I can see it the fights are just a vehicle just uh through to the slice of life it's it's very much exactly what happened with persona it's persona was a hardcore rpg series that became half dating sim and then the shit in between the the rpg is what people attached to right yeah and it's like listen the gameplay is the meat but the the fluff is interesting it's fun it's like let's ignore the part where you're a professor and you're the same age as your students and you're able to date your students that's kind of fucked up but we've had a lot of fucked up thing in these anime games you're the
Starting point is 00:55:08 same age who cares yeah it's unethical you can't date your students because of then they can get a good great right right right right yeah um the other thing that's really good about the time pregnancy is being gone is that the time pregnancies meant that everyone had to be straight because why would you ever have a relationship with somebody that couldn't result in a baby do you play assassin's creed odyssey i did okay didn't finish it okay and they ran into that problem too uh so here they've added a bunch of gay options uh unfortunately there's only one gay option for dudes and it's not the guy that people want to fuck no yeah i don't know if you've seen but the guy in yellow uh the i don't know i haven't seen any of the tan skinny's got a little rat tail
Starting point is 00:55:59 on the side his name's claud everyone assumed you could suck that dude's dick you can't you fuck the sleepy kid i i have no reference point all right see this is what you got you know i bounced off of fire emblem too many times i tried to is it the gameplay or is it the time pregnancy it was i didn't even get to the time pregnancy so it wasn't that yeah but it was it was it was a lot of everything and i tried on three different games once they started so back in the day i was really excited because when i first saw the swordsman in melee i was like oh nintendo has a series about a franchise about knights and stuff that's fun yeah i didn't know anything about this that seems like not their style from what i you know and uh then i found
Starting point is 00:56:48 there was that then they brought over that game boy color or advanced one i forget what system it was on but um i think it was the one with ellie wood in it and uh that so i tried that for a little bit and then i bounced off of it i don't know i just i just i don't i after the first i didn't have any problem per se but it's like after the first or second session i just didn't feel like going back to it so i i felt pretty much the same way and then i bought fates and then i bought awakening you know or the way around i did the exact same thing and bounce off of them every time because i felt there was nothing i this this series and this game have shown me if i can't physically directly control a character ever i probably won't like the game i also felt no hook in terms of
Starting point is 00:57:37 like no one who i met was really like a character that i'm like i want to know more about that person i i kind of saw a lot of anime characters with swords and capes and she and cool stuff but nothing really gripped me they and made me like want to hold on to it and uh and then i and i have no way to define the the quality that i'm talking about yeah but it's the same quality that applied to sort out online characters and it's the same quality that applied to when i first saw the faces in astral chain yeah that i kind of went it's that thing yeah i don't know but that's just that's just on the art i would i would the art's not the only thing i'm talking about i understand what you're saying i'd say they they did a great job on these this batch of anime stereotypes
Starting point is 00:58:28 i think there's a couple in them that are are new ish but yeah it's hey yeah and i never went and i guess i never went deep enough to find the one or two that might be awesome someone's talking about lan qi i i i didn't get i didn't get deep enough to see who that might have been so like i i referred to gave a shot though uh about those three hearts as the sleepy kid because that's his job there's the gold digger there's the sleepy kid there's the shy girl there's the ditzy one there's the the girl who's quiet but she really likes horses yeah you know et cetera et cetera et cetera yeah i it's not for the same reasons but i feel it a little bit with some of the tales games mm-hmm um oh tales to me is just stock anime but but i do like the
Starting point is 00:59:16 combat system in that being a fun juggle you know one player fucking marvel but uh yeah there's a little something in that art style that i i kind of come back to that like it lacks a hook that'll be like that'll that'll pull me back to it you know um but for other reasons as well i mean the gameplay was was yeah it's cool it's fire emblem strategy you know i mean like there's nothing wrong with that but i don't know you know um whereas when i played um like advanced wars or something like that i was fucking in i can't stand advanced war i'm so in i love advanced wars and advanced wars is one of those series that i'll make the distinction where i won't say that it sucks i'll say i can't stand advanced wars because create if it's turn-based you have your characters
Starting point is 01:00:02 if it's real time you create units that's the rule you can't create units when it's turn-based that's not allowed that's not allowed you can't do it what do you mean i just make it i hate it it's great i hate it it's great and then of course there is a me discovering like into the breach as a love in the form of like uh perfect knowledge puzzle yeah it's puzzle game puzzle games but yeah but yeah fire emblem three houses it's a good one okay i would say that if you ever wanted to try to bounce again this would be a decent shot okay but uh are you pretty much are though like i haven't seen the cast like i mean like you mentioned um but like you know like it's a good cat you know all that you but you know all the cat all the fire emblem characters that
Starting point is 01:00:51 made it into like smash yes is it pretty much like you're hanging out with all of them no because all the fire emblem characters that made it into smash are all the same character they're all i'm the sword hero man yeah uh whereas all the they they your character in this one is a fucking slate okay they are a fucking blank canvas they have zero percent probably more like fe than anything um yeah it actually i saw somebody saying uh when i was talking about it on an earlier stream it's like it's like you get to enjoy all the character bits of of of hashtag fe without having to play hashtag fe which is a win for everyone yeah you do the dates and that that's true um but yeah no the cast is good they're uh they're not i wouldn't call them weirdos where
Starting point is 01:01:38 like you'd call the person i'd call the persona cast weirdos like they're trying to go as far as they can go with certain personality traits i would call them probably their nice little refreshing takes on the archetype i mean they're not all weirdos is there like i feel like ken and uh shinji like shinji's anti-social but he's not unrealistic you know yeah well he is a little with the with the magic but you know what i mean yeah i feel like him and ken are like pretty pretty well rounded normal people um but yeah i hear you it's a good one that's my main thing to say about is that it's very good i'm enjoying it very much and that black eagles are the best house and this is not just this is not just me saying it it's also like numerical everybody knows the
Starting point is 01:02:29 black eagle no we fucking is this is this niantic again well is this pokemon go again no this is literally pokemon go again i would know woolly you pick do you take three choices you give you give the public three groups and they all serve a particular need woolly i will i will answer your question with the s and i know it's not niantic it's not pokemon go it's actually harry potter oh it's slitherin pufflepuff no there's no slitherin house because okay no one ever picks slitherin no publicly no one would ever go man that slitherin house is the dopest everyone would always say that they would be griffin door hufflepuff or raven claw and that is those three that i just said have been directly transplanted into this game baratheon lannister and stark yeah except
Starting point is 01:03:19 take lannister out and put a not evil one in a not evil one i can't think right they even they even fit the animals it's a fucking line and evil at some point but right but the reason i say that is because when you play the game online it does the persona thing of like listen this is what people did with their time it'll say uh 12 percent of people battle today or 89 percent of people but on the load screens it'll also tell you hey this is who got recruited this month this is who got deployed this month and from one to eight it's the whole cast of black eagle it's that's the one because they're the best one because their leader is like
Starting point is 01:04:12 a snobby bitchy axe princess with mitzvah's voice so therefore that's that's that's the best one yeah okay all right okay she'll look at you and judge you the first thing you see you look at her and it says i feel like she's always evaluating and judging me you're like there you know that's the best one right there i have no strong feelings one way or the other damn you damn you uh apathy not apathy but not ambivalence what's the mean what's the middle one i can't remember it's gone i've lost it that's pretty much it for me okay if you want to see me streaming more stuff this week check it out twitch.tv slash angriest pat it'll be sinking city ff7 and monster hunter this week uh so meanwhile uh on my end so i talked about uh yeah jojo um and before i left
Starting point is 01:05:16 for my weekend adventure i in scenic hamilton played the outer wilds you did yes played it for about two hours okay how should we talk about this did you get to the part where you understand why i didn't want to talk to you yes okay so let's get that's fucking incredible let's let's let's put a secondary if you don't want to know what one of the hooks for the outer wilds is stop listening for about 10 minutes i had no idea i don't think i have 10 minutes worth of conversation however because i played a lot more of it i will say this uh i don't feel the same as you in terms of this is your game of the year but i would say that if the uh if no man sky had that this would that game would have changed games yeah this this to me i feel like this is what no man's
Starting point is 01:06:20 sky and the witness both aspired to be in one game because the difference is the exploration and the drive to want to uncover things still the remains yeah that's all there but now you have the ultimate impetus to actually go do it yeah and you have the impetus to do it big fast because if you take too long the galaxy you are in what did you explore what will end so i i mean i noticed the first time around that there i was like i was like basically because for the purposes of taking like a quick look at this thing which i did walking around town and playing hide and go seek with these fucking kids to learn the mechanics yeah like i at a certain point i just got really bored and went you know what like i'm done talking to you villagers yeah not right but there's
Starting point is 01:07:14 a lot i could have done as tutorial yeah if i were to just do all of that i assume that the moment i got back to my ship and took off it would be exactly stops when you're when you're in that area does it yeah oh you're doing that stuff on pass one time it doesn't it's the moment you launch the moment you walk into the launch bay and go up okay because i was i was hoping that the waste of time in the tutorial for yeah would have been for the purpose of you then launch and that's the end of the world so i have a question for you did you check out everything in that museum uh pretty much i did i did i checked out the first couple things and then i was like oh my god okay we i gotta get a move on here like yeah it was like 24 25 minutes of just like reading it was getting to
Starting point is 01:08:03 appointments like ah so my favorite part of that thing but i did but it sets up a lot and it shows you the fucking sun so it shows you a thing this is how suns it was how it's our and and i looked at it and i didn't pay it any attention because i already knew how suns work of course and the chat went nuts was like no look at it we need to we need to see it my okay it's fine and i read the thing about the something oh they for oh yeah you played with a chat yeah i played with a chat but the chat was good my chat was good okay but then i get on the space i'm exploring around i take a look i'm like the sun looks i must be wrong that the sun looks larger than it did and it looks like a different color i must be mistaken i and then i went a little further and it's like no i'm not mistaken okay okay
Starting point is 01:08:52 so you actually saw the build up yeah and you and then i died but you interpret but you interpreted what you were seeing yeah okay i went through this uh so i was sitting there with reggie and basically had the moment of like okay what's next on the star chart we checked out this planet we talked to that guy he kind of lost his mind yeah okay now we went here and i'll that'd be the moon at or yeah and then off fuck my ship like the gravity on this planet sent my ship flying into space this sucks right and a lot and i basically got a guy retrieved it and we did a whole little thing and then like not even looking at the color changed not noticing i looked away to pick the next autopilot destination and then suddenly i'm like am i in re-entry yeah i'm hearing this horrible
Starting point is 01:09:38 noise i'm seeing fire in my peripherals right now what's going on look is that oh it's fine let's get to that planet look back at the map and then suddenly ambient music started playing yeah and i'm like oh well that's nice that occasionally they'll play some what the fuck yeah i didn't think i saw that it was changing i didn't think it was gonna kill me within within a 24 minute cycle so you have 24 minutes okay to do the game yeah okay and um i you know i explored uh i explored everything on so the the planets are the perfect size they're big but they're small enough that you can actually explore the entire planet in one hour and you have a device that says where the things of interest are yeah and you know that the north
Starting point is 01:10:26 pole of every planet is where communications are the best and also um uh your ship's log will maintain everything forever and if you go to a location and didn't get everything your ship's log will have an asterisk and tell you yes you need to go back there exactly so that that when i went when i went after that first two hour look at the game and saw that log basically be like this is you discovered this you discovered that and this is still a mystery and i went this is a puzzle game it is a puzzle game and i'm gonna ask you really carefully where did you go i went to uh the water planet you went to giant steep i went to the moon uh-huh i went to the planet that was at a rock yeah i went to the planet that was all spiky and shitty dark ramble
Starting point is 01:11:16 i had not been there myself i went to the planet that was connected to another one okay ash twin and i was on both of those and i went to the uh comet yeah the interloper yep the one that's cycling around yep um and i want to say i mean that that's the icy one right no yeah i haven't been to it i went to you've actually been more locations than i have okay so the reason i ask is because instead of going to every place bop bop bop bop bop i fucking scraped every location on hearth timber timber hearth or whatever i scraped every location on the moon i scraped yeah every location on giant steep i spread it out i spread it out for the sake of exploration so here's the thing both of these options are possible the game has a severe breadcrumb there are breadcrumbs
Starting point is 01:12:08 off every location that go to every location and they are something as simple as i found this log from this guy and he said he was gonna go to dark bramble so if i go to dark bramble i'll find that guy yeah and then i'll talk to him about whatever right did you approach uh did you approach an event horizon of some kind what do you mean the none nothing oh you you found the white hole station oh okay yeah yeah you went to brittle hollow and you fell in yeah that is very disorienting yes it is and the way that handles the skybox as you approach infinity refracting onto itself is really really weird so i have a question for you did you manage to leave white hole station come back i did the the i pulled the little switch yeah the moment i died okay so i don't
Starting point is 01:13:11 know what it did there's a there's a bunch of goofy little things there and so here's the thing you read the stuff at white hole station and white hole station tells you how to use white hole station to leave okay that is you're an upgrade you have your camera device you have your radio wave device you have your suit you have your ship everything in that game like this is a game because it's on our cycle to beat the game i know this in my heart you will be able to fly off and just fly to the end yes of course there is nothing you will gain nothing all you're doing is gathering the information like to get you to that i i achieved a big upgrade a huge upgrade that lets me control parts of the world by reading a single line of text that said if you do this yeah this happens
Starting point is 01:14:10 yeah or doesn't happen yeah yeah yeah and there is a straight up location in the game that says you need to know this this and this in order to walk forward and it is the physical equivalent of a completely empty room with literally nothing other than you need to know these things to move forward okay and i know that if i knew those things i would look at that room and go oh yeah it's this i just do it right it's so cool it's very interesting it's a very interesting thing on a game that doesn't have a giant budget no very much not big budget and love the art style with the way the planets work sure yeah yeah but like you can like you can feel that like if you just took that that core idea um i get like again if you put that into something
Starting point is 01:15:08 that actually put in the world tech like no man sky yeah we would have a game changer so the problem with that is that it can't because the only reason this game works is because it's small because of the scale yes you're right you're super right and i agree if it but in terms of landmass it's like the size of the island of the witness like it's actually quite small yeah and i and i'm not i'm not sure whether it would be like this works and it's also fun because of the sense of urgency the moment you you come back yeah because the same next time around you're like fuck go go go hustle hustle that's like in all that slow paced whatever is completely gone um but i i guess like i guess there's just something cool to thinking about like like a fully realized world that also
Starting point is 01:15:51 has that kind of there's a right when you go back to it uh any options there is an option you can enable that it's on by default for the nomin writing but you can turn it on for dialogue and you can turn it on for uh your ship's log which stops time when you're reading ah so i don't know if you noticed if you were near a waterfall or something but when you read the nomin dialogue time stops important because fuck yeah right yeah um don't turn it on for dialogue okay because there's a couple cool moments okay that that only happen if dialogue is happening while the world continues to exist yeah okay um for ship's log that's also fine right flying that ship was rough it's hard and i make some big dumb embarrassing crash crashes i was uh brushing elmo last night
Starting point is 01:16:47 i was streaming last night as bright oh i said autopilot for giant steep okay i got time to brush the cat flew right into the fucking lava moon around side little hollow yeah i didn't understand how to land properly until like the fifth time i crashed i still don't know how i finally figured it out right you look down on the landing cam and you only use the a button no you just fucking and you tap hard and softly like like literally reg's like dude slowed out and i'm like i can't you know there's a jack button on your ship is there okay yeah if you hold down on the d-pad and turn you're right there's an eject button and it fires the forward capsule you're not even sealed yeah and then you repair your shit and it really is fucking interesting i spent about four and a
Starting point is 01:17:32 half hours exploring brittle hollow last night only to find that there was an area that i can't get to because i don't it's probably the most fun game to ever say i don't know how to get there i can see it and it makes no sense and the last thing i i did after i think i did i think i did three respawns like actually technically four because i jumped off i jumped off a ledge in the main town just to see a fall damage was a thing it is and then i'm like great and then i respawned right thankfully and the game was like oh that didn't count you didn't know what happened it's fine you know but um when uh the last thing i noticed that i'm now obsessed with was the fourth time i woke up and then i'm like what the fuck is that blue thing you're staring at
Starting point is 01:18:28 and it's launches and it goes off and i'm like that that is something really you mean the thing orbiting giant steep and but it launches the moment you wake up it's the first thing you see it's the first thing you see god damn and i want to know why that's the first thing i see so i i will i will share a d i will end on sharing a detail with you yeah about that thing that you may not have noticed because you only saw it four times did you notice that every time you wake up it fires in a different direction no it does okay it fires in a completely randomized direction okay despite the fact that you're trapped in a time loop yeah okay okay when i noticed that i got on my fucking ship and i hauled the fat fuck over there exactly and it was like what yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:19:18 yeah that and then that sent me to this location this location i i i attempted to to i hauled up and i attempted to like just like fucking eyeball the blue yeah into and you don't have time i tried to chase it it is the fastest thing in the universe it is think about the speed it's moving from the distance you're at oh it's so fucking fast holy shit yeah so um what a really there's tons of crazy shit on your own planet like it's so important here's a little hint for you you know your suit protects you from water damage yeah you know those geysers in the middle of town yeah yeah stuff in there yeah like it is so important to like let the beginning of that game happen until its premise is is presented so the store page totally spoils it
Starting point is 01:20:13 fuck i did not know that someone told me that too and i never went back to check but someone told me thankfully they said download and install the game never read anything or look at any screenshots this is the this is the game the most i can think of like either do it as a community like i'm doing it or do it in a locked room by yourself right like don't the the the thing of like talking to your buddy about it all cool like that seems like an awful way to go through it where your buddy said the community version of that is like you're gonna get a lot more than you want i have actually been surprised at uh at my personal chance like calmness okay on that really cool really cool premise it is a galaxy brain game
Starting point is 01:21:07 for sure yeah yeah yeah strongest premise easy easy easy i was also surprised how hard it gets it gets quite difficult i uh i think and like it's the to the point where an unremarkable like world and not a world an unremarkable like feeling engine yeah and assets are made up for with an incredible premise well like otherwise it's kind of like it's a unit solid you know it looks it runs well and it's solid but then you get to the part where it's like there's actually a lot of really crazy things that that are happening uh since you encountered the black hole you can use that to slingshot yourself to areas in that in that zone okay you can throw yourself at it and use it and use your jets and its gravity to fire yourself into parts of it that you would not
Starting point is 01:22:05 otherwise be able to reach that's complicated and weird and the fact that the first time i got out in a space i died instantly because i forgot the sun had gravity so the only other thing oh uh i never even got close to the to that to find out what would yeah the sun has gravity yeah okay yeah yeah so i guess the one other question i'd have is once the premise reveals itself yeah are there further reveals there are constant shocks and surprises okay okay um nothing like that yeah but like sci-fi is a good place to show you weird things that make no sense and then demand that you understand them mm-hmm i mean and and again i and i'm treating that museum room as it's a primer a primer for everything that matters yeah yeah especially
Starting point is 01:23:00 considering like here's a rock you see that rock woolly look at that rock though i'm gonna ask i'm gonna say did you see a heavenly body yeah that didn't have a name yeah okay did you uh i may or may not have i don't even okay yeah yeah fuck all right the outer wilds it's crazy it requires installing the epic store or a console xbox one only yeah it's coming to steam later they're adding uh there's gonna be a patch that comes out for it in the near future apparently the final puzzle is very obtuse so they're gonna like juice it a little bit okay and they're also going to add the ability to move forward through time okay there's a there's a unlockable ability that you can get where you can reset the the fucking you reset the cycle by yourself from the menu instead of just
Starting point is 01:24:03 killing yourself okay they're adding the ability to move forward through time because there are events that only happen at certain times yeah yeah the the the whole um i forgot what the it's the the way the samurai thing where it's like there's a fixed calendar system you know it's major's mask in space major's mask in space yeah and that we need the song of double time so they're gonna add that in the near future um it is and uh yeah so me taking a quick look at that's gonna be on woolly versus a bit later this week probably um two parter because there's some bubble fucking that goes around for that first bit games a lot longer than i thought it was yeah it looks short doesn't it looks very short i've spent two streams exploring like three planets oh wow okay okay
Starting point is 01:24:52 i assume okay hmm yeah i assume those planets were like two three items of interest most for the sake of they're five or six and then there's a seventh point of interest that you're like i don't even know what i'm looking at i can't enter it okay cool uh outer wilds um so there's that quick look coming up um on the channel uh then yes so i went to con bravo and you did jujoprity i did so um god fucking damn it man uh already like already the the the process of like putting together these prize packs for everybody like was cutting it down to the wire you know but i did get uh enough in time that i think was worth it and looked like everyone was happy with how that played out was waiting on that fucking suit yeah i'm staring at the god damn ups truck
Starting point is 01:25:57 coming around you know what i mean like trying to get my hands on that suit it was nonsense i fucking i hate ups dude but anyway i had to drive out to lachine you know i had to drive out to the fucking station to go pick up my garbage because they just refused um i hate those motherfuckers it really sucks especially when you pay for the rush purilator is even worse though out here i mean the only thing that i like it's nothing's great right canada post will bring it to your local post office and then you can go get it at the post office it'll take you 10 minutes yep and because you everyone lives next to a post office and it's not the perfect solution because sometimes they bring it to the wrong one sometimes they leave you a door tag that leads to nothing
Starting point is 01:26:40 but for the most part if you ever get you miss your package it's gonna be at your post office and i'm like god bless canada posts you know um i have never had a purilator person ever actually hand me an item yeah not once yeah yeah yeah uh dhl ups fedex all these fucking companies like ups gets like like the the amount of shits they don't give about like they will drive to your location just to put a door tag on your door i had a ups guy leave a package on the sidewalk in front of my house uh you have and he did not ring the fucking doorbell i remember a duck man bit where duck man's waiting on a package and i think it was i'm pretty sure it was and like he literally he's like staring at the door and then he's like i have to
Starting point is 01:27:39 go out and he's like fuck but all right and he leaves the house and the moment he leaves the house the ups man leans out of the bushes puts the tag on his door sorry rubis and jumps back into the bushes you know yeah anyway um so what uh i got but i did get it i got the suit got my accessories went down to a fucking halloween shop and bought me some bullshit yeah and i i i went in as you might have seen i went in i saw i'd fit it up we did you ready to sell dozens of classified personal ads in the newspaper to make a fortune or used cars yeah would you trust the used car salesman wearing that fucking suit yes i would well you would you i would not i would not trust myself however uh i i got my uh questions all together i put them i had three rounds worth of jojo trivia
Starting point is 01:28:42 and uh i tested them on punch mom and i'm but she doesn't remember anything yeah that doesn't really you know so it's like okay she remembers schooling and important things and then i tested them on uh austin yeah and another and some friends and like they were kind of just like dude he's too hard what i don't i saw they're like we watched all of jojo once as a normal anime we're not living in the world of reading its memes and seeing its manga pages and double reading it and then watching it we're just people that watched it once there's that's the problem that i i knew you were gonna run into because there's two types of people with something like this there's the guy who showed up with the fucking uh there's there's people like kira uh bucklin who are walking around
Starting point is 01:29:33 with the fucking tattoo yes on their neck yeah and then there's people like yeah that was a fun anime with dio right yeah yeah so it was pretty hard to kind of figure out where to nail this because the problem was was that i made questions based on as if i were talking to the people in our chat right now yep i made questions for them yes essentially where any question you would ask would it be instantaneously answered by 10 people like so the hundred dollar questions yeah were the ones that were like like it was almost like one of them as an example uh one of the originals yeah one of the words like um one of the originals uh let me fit like i revised anything for context well
Starting point is 01:30:23 like because i have like i have the the the like god i'd have to pull it up sorry just because in the end there was a there was a bunch right now one of the like one of the ones that's that you're the reason why everyone is shouting chocolate gum is because i fucked up yeah right and i i super just wrote in i wrote in like when i was trying to come up with replacement questions to make them easier and stuff i wrote in some filler answers and then went back in and revised but the and then that one i i fucked up by leaving the filler answer in and it was obviously coffee because chocolate kills dogs so i made a mistake and got exposed oops i made a mistake um when uh what ended up happening though was uh okay let me let me hit you let me find one
Starting point is 01:31:07 of the questions sorry just because i didn't mean to put you on the spot i'm just like something for context right yeah uh so i originally had for example um let's say let's say uh uh uh this uh is like the like joseph allows um santana yeah to jump into the well for this reason okay what do you got i think i worded it differently but i'm like joseph basically i oh because it would be noon soon so the sun would be peering straight down the well exactly because it's because it's high noon okay yeah that's tough sure but that and that was the kind of one of that was one of those things that i threw out there right yeah and then like the the crazy ass fucking hard questions were um what's what's joseph's address no no no no no
Starting point is 01:32:09 literally uh what is mickey tacca's alien name oh that's not fair that's a thousand dollar question that's tough that's a tough one exactly right so you have so the whole thing is is to understand when you're making the scale and and like the amount of people yelling right now yeah it's a perfect like representation of the fact that when you know jojo it seems super easy when it's a basic questions right yeah but when you don't when you watched it once when it's just like what any other anime in your list yeah if i ask you which one oh no no at first i had i had um acdc cries for this reason right this is the like like and like or after and i i worded it better so that's like not because he gets his arm fucking hurt or whatever but like this is the purpose that he
Starting point is 01:33:06 explains why he cries right and then it's like to get rid of his anger and frustration so that he can cool his head off right okay so that gets revised to which one of the pillar men cries okay right um which is laughably easy compared to so you reword it sometimes to make it so that it's not about what the reason for the action was yeah as opposed to who did it which is how much grease was on that pillar right um what is uh there's there's an ability that is the the subscribility is used once if not twice ever in the entire thing it's that has that wammu does upon awakening his masters and then we don't and then we don't see it again this obscure specific character trait of wammu uh the character trait of wammu or ability same thing okay because
Starting point is 01:33:57 like he attacks his shadow yes well no but he attacks anything that touches the shadow right and it's never dealt with ever so that to me is a is a is a pretty simple it's an easy question but yeah it's so weird what it happens but it's easy to forget right because it happens once so it became a very so i basically was staring back at these questions and like they were kind of going like dude hold on a second right these would work for your audience of people that love jojo yeah they've watched and read it and talk about it and share memes with each other all day right there's no there's no mistaking a lot of these things however it's not gonna fly especially if you're talking to your you're you're saying this is what the panel is but who are you gonna
Starting point is 01:34:42 be pulling up there right the best jojo fans in the audience or statistically you'll get one or random people and i'm like i'm pulling random names out of a jotaro hat yeah right then they're like then you need to make this be a con fun event yeah so i was like that's fair you can't go up there and have a situation in which no one on the on the list can get any of the questions right right and there is a there is a strategy to jeopardy in which you can clear out hard questions not answer not lose points and then try to fish for daily doubles listen are you making are you making this fucking game for ken jennings or anyone else uh ken jennings that guy ruined jeopardy okay okay he won like 11 weeks in a row okay so so um in the end it was basically
Starting point is 01:35:33 like all right hundred dollar questions have to literally be answerable by anyone yeah and then you make a sliding slow scale of difficulty yeah and then jump it up around 400 d.o is a werewolf vampire well ghost um the first might one of my first my first hundred dollar question was um this japanese phrase translates to uh the fate of that blood jojo uh yeah i get it right it's yari yari to say obviously and then that changed to and then when i looked around the room and i got blank stares yeah that question changed to this is the title of the intro and the final words on the lyrics of the first opening yeah right whatever there you go so um in the end what i did was like a rough balancing act it was a rough balancing act and here what here's what it ended
Starting point is 01:36:30 up being was pretty unbalanced yeah with there being the first one to three hundred of every board being piss easy yeah and then four to six hundred or four to four to a thousand being brutal sometimes yeah forgiving other times you know um i like i went back over things in a lot of cases and i just i kept the same answer but i reworded it yeah or i gave more of a hint as to what even if you didn't remember what the thing was the context given in the in the clue might imply you know enough right um so uh uh i had another thousand point question where it's like uh straight straights and lisa lisa uh we've a one hundred percent ripple conducting scarf that is uh made of thirty thousand of these it's like some kind of hair i forget no super wrong right what was it so here's
Starting point is 01:37:30 the thing and this is where i got to choose the answer is a beetle but the answer also could have been a scarab beetle yeah and then the answer could have been a sati portage scarab beetle a fictional type of beetle created for part one that conducts ripple okay you understand yeah like i could have went that hard on it and i like i said let's play it a little nice right yeah so anyway it's not even a real beetle it's not even a real beetle in the end it was worth it and it was fun and people got there was a good balance of wrong answers to right answers yeah good balance of holy shits to speed round first fastest answer wins yeah you know um you say jojo on the speed round you might win and uh and yeah and there was of course the hilariousness of me getting my own fucking answer ah well and
Starting point is 01:38:23 the moment the guy said coffee i was like i fucked up because that i should have edited that i didn't i did and and but for for everything else though i definitely made sure i was like i fact checked like don't let your dogs eat chocolate guys don't die but beyond that uh i had a lot of fun with it it was a really good time the problem that i was trying to get to was i did all those questions i read i had to edit everything so yeah uh and then i was doing it i was revising because it was three rounds of 30 questions so there's 90 in total plus a lot plus the final jeopardies yeah and i basically uh did that all the night of that's a lot for the revision because i didn't realize until that's still a lot of revision so i got through it yeah walked down to make except for the the
Starting point is 01:39:11 the coffee question yeah walked with the laptop from the hotel to the escalator to the room plugged it in and it exploded on the stage with everyone waiting outside saturday night to get into the main event watched it as the just stopped working the laptop in my hand just suddenly no awesome right um tech tech guys everybody's running up trying to figure out what we do that's all for time but eventually i'm just like okay guys just copy off the files and i will run them on another computer or whatever yeah let's do what we can uh um get into command prompt no one none of the tech guys really know dos so it's like i'll fucking do it thank god i had to build my computer back in the day thank god i learned how to do this shit so i'm i'm making i'm plugging in a fucking
Starting point is 01:40:04 external and a running command prompt you mean two yeah yeah what two it's two in spanish right and this and this and now we live in a world of windows 10 installed on ssd's yeah where it boots too fast for you to press f8 yeah because you don't get to see a bioscreen anymore so that shit i i have that exact thing and there is a solution and it's actually mash yes f8 as it as it loads yeah which is stupid didn't work as five four times didn't work so just command prompt literally pulling file by file off right doing star dot star x copies that's kind of astonishing you were able to fix it you know um the well i didn't fix it that night we basically hit a 15 minute delay and i went this isn't this is going to take me too much time yeah right and
Starting point is 01:40:52 so they said let's turn this into a woolly versus qa whatever whatever and i was like i feel bad because people came here for jojo not necessarily no i came there for you but then we just started talking about jojo anyway and we was just a fun panel yeah right and then i said come back tomorrow when we'll do the proper event yeah which we did and it worked out great right um you saved the dirt it was it was it was a really good time i put the video up it's out on woolly versus you can go watch it it is full of music and bullshit that is hyper copyrighted yeah so that shit's just that's out for the wind i'm not even gonna attempt a monetization on that what's the final jeopardy question i don't want the answer i just want to know what what you decided was going to be the
Starting point is 01:41:35 final jeopardy question it was it was three variations of the same question okay each round i walked off the podium yeah i stood in front of them and i asked them to identify this pose that's pretty good and i did a pose that's that's really hard well i well depends what poses you pick i picked two easy ones yeah that they didn't get and then i picked a pretty hard one um so let me see if you remember it but i did this don't remember it okay this is josuke holding the house in oh my savage garden oh my god you're right okay yeah hand over the head upside down holding the house you know okay so um that's a lot of people thought i was going for the the the Caesar yeah with the with the the abs on display but i wasn't and um yeah so i did that each round
Starting point is 01:42:29 the final jeopardy was identify the pose okay fun yeah i was and like and i mean yes i understand that there was a point two where a big debate i had with a lot with people i had to go back and forth with and i asked the discord at one point even was the the categories were parts one two three four and five that makes sense i originally had six seven yeah yeah we talked about this last week is that you can't do that you can't have it the people who can't will not show up and i decided against it eventually but i had no eight huh well it's not done yet yeah you know also weird it is but i fucking like i i'm like i can throw in a question with where the answer is 36 cars on mars all right i can throw in a question where you got to answer me what you know about
Starting point is 01:43:17 dead man's questions okay i couldn't like and i'm like you know what like we're gonna just back that shit off because we don't know who's gonna walk into this yeah but the version i originally designed went for the fiends in the chat right now yeah who would have all that nonsense in their heads so what i want to do is figure out how to do something more with this idea and whether that is a doing it at another con type of thing or um figuring out a way to do it on twitch because i want to maybe just make a twitch game show out of it fast but like and it wouldn't be if you couldn't do jeopardy because if you did you'd have three people and they'd all be able to cheat so it'd have to do like a quiz based elimination with the whole chat thing so i'm figuring out
Starting point is 01:43:58 right now but i want to put that suit to work and get more use out of it so um yeah i'll take some purple haze feedback on what you guys thought if you check it out on the channel uh jojo pretty and i want to see how our audio and the listeners i'm doing a big eye roll right now at that horrible i mean it was just called jojo jeopardy as an event but i was like fucking i'm gonna call it jojo pretty and um if your only feedback is cringy cringe whatever fuck off all right i had fun it was great it was a good time but uh yeah i want to definitely do this again and prizes are a fun thing i love fucking getting jojo prizes listen everything is cringe that's the secret of life sure everything is church but it was just wholesome jojo fun no what i'm saying is is cringe man
Starting point is 01:44:50 do you know what's really cringy what i find personally to be the cringiest thing ever fantasy football okay i find that to be like embarrassingly cringy and there's a specific somewhat quiet youtuber out there that i'd like to call out who makes fun of weebs but just started painting her fucking warhammer army that's some cringe shit okay i laugh and smile and nod as i literally just this weekend handed off my kingdom death monster to someone to paint and build for me yeah oh really you're not gonna paint it yourself i don't have the time for that shit i also handed them a kashatria so i don't know what you just said it's a really hot hot ass gundam design okay from from gundam it's hot it's really cool it's hot ass it's a mobile suit type thing that's really
Starting point is 01:45:45 cool yeah yeah anyway um so yes jojo jeopardy go check it out on the channel let me know how you feel uh what channel is that that is woolly versus i also want to give a shout out to d20 live i played immediately after the the panel i had a half an hour to then fucking go and uh catch a quick ass sit before getting back on stage for a three hour game of dnd uh which i played um with the d20 live people mike invited uh myself arcada uh jewels from family jewels and linkara to play in the world of avatar okay and i'm like is it a bad if i haven't seen any avatar and they're like this is the cotor of avatar it's 400 or 50 years in the past don't worry about it so we played a little avatar adventure it was a really fun time um that sentence just hit me in like 10 different
Starting point is 01:46:48 ways that is a weird way to describe anything yeah this is the cotor of yeah yeah yeah and uh i played a he basically had pre-made characters and is like what role do you want to be i picked the doctor that had a pressure point based exploding techniques cool so uh yeah dr punch face yeah p eight uh md md rather you know and uh if the replays are up on that twitch channel and you want to see a really good time go check it out it was really fun i don't know what the fuck anything with avatar is but we got some really move the elements around we got some really critical we got some critical like hits and critical fails in the most comedic possible moments of course because that's how dnd does dice rolling dice rolling so it was a good time go check that out as well
Starting point is 01:47:39 shout out to those guys and on the fucking break between like we starting with that thing um the guy who i you know like it's like hey nice to meet you how's it going thanks for having me on this thing uh gets down on a knee and proposes and i was like what the fuck and then are you gonna marry him yeah and then while he does that she goes hold the phone and reaches in and pulls out her own ring and goes i was gonna do the and they double fucking that's like well that's a once in a lifetime or that's pretty good that's never gonna happen again straight up and then we had to go back to playing d&d after the break and i was like oh you know that was amazing that was super nice so memes so uh congrats to mike and the d20 live folks that was really fun uh con bravo all in all
Starting point is 01:48:32 good one for the history books had a good time that's hamilton shenanigans uh i mean not really except on that's good on the train over i found out that trains have um turbulence i didn't know that was a thing but sometimes they shake and fucking rattle and roll i didn't know they got that because it's on a rail yeah but it's a big long i assume the tech by now got to the point where you just silently tech is a hundred years old it's a big heavy car on a rail i you know i wrote a shin kansen i barely that's tech yeah that's tech i don't use his magnets and shit i thought we figured it out it's all that strange fucking it's around it's fucking down the down the track if you'd like to check out uh outer wilds bayonetta continues and a couple other one-offs including
Starting point is 01:49:22 the new franchise uh including the new series race wars be sure to check out woolly versus uh i saw you comment somewhere everywhere was where it's like going back to panetta with no practice after so many years was a big mistake oh yes yes you forget a lot of things there's a lot of things that are forgettable and there's a lot of rust yeah and a lot of hits you take that you shouldn't be taking and you know all those reasons we were afraid to ever play it on the channel yeah yeah all of those reasons come up to haunt you and then they all get echoed by everyone going i can't believe the biggest bayonetta fan is such a fake fan and i just sit there and fucking ball up well i'm glad i acquitted myself quite adequately with the no practice runs of devil may cry right
Starting point is 01:50:07 but even those all ended up being decent by the end yeah ish uh bayo one with its really obtuse challenges at times and well the thing with the devil may cry games that we went through is that because i felt really comfortable with the beginnings of those games and i knew that we i could sit down and do two hours and be solid yeah and then go home and exactly right so here like like we're still in the beginning fucking sessions some other fuckers are like dude you remember dodge offset right dude you remember you can hold the buttons down to get shots in right dude you remember there's a witch time oh you forgot those and i'm like no of course i didn't but i was just getting hit and sucking oh no man this is like i like you gotta blow up all
Starting point is 01:50:49 the pensions dude you know there's more you know there's more combos than punch kick punch to get a wicked weave right and it's like yes yeah the best ones punch punch kick kick kick let me get let me get let me just yeah so you know i know but it feels bad sounds like a big fan over here feels bad oh man feels bad doesn't even like banata you can enjoy that over on woolly versus as well as well so that's what's going to be happening let's take a quick word from our sponsors let's do that uh this week castle super beast is sponsored by a name that you should know and trust audible hi audible what's up audibles back audible what does audible do they give you audiobooks listening makes people smarter more connected it makes us
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Starting point is 01:56:59 dead now right it's dead to me what the colorado you fucking bitch oh i thought he was dead because he had cheating pads wait what i heard that his pads were two inches thicker than regulation so he'd helped him save more shots i don't know that and apparently he got somewhat disgraced over that controversy i don't know that yeah i don't like that my namesake got disgraced over cheating i don't like that well you know there'll always be the the brett hall cards on the back of the fucking rice krispie's box yeah so anyway um don't look up to sports kids your heroes will turn out to be losers i say as i wear a hockey inspired evo jersey yeah which by the way is this weekend and i will be there um is the podcast on monday or tuesday it's gonna have to be on tuesday
Starting point is 01:57:54 okay good to know yes i don't know if you saw but i blew your ass up yesterday on my stream did you yeah i was like i may be responsible every single week for delaying the podcast from one including today including today but i only delay it two hours maximum i'm not the one who delays it by 24 hours literally on the last train home i was so pissed off when i texted you i couldn't sleep sunday night and it's five a.m and i'm like i bet that motherfucker isn't going to be back until tuesday let me text him yeah it's on tuesday oh yeah yeah from now on if i'm out of town if you're out of town it's on tuesday yeah because i used to come back late sunday and i would it sucks i would be in agony yeah it sucks ass like the quality of what i would be
Starting point is 01:58:47 able to record the next day would not be worth putting out i mean the sub it might but i also just don't want to even hit the button yeah i know i know so from now on i'm just straight up rolling it over to tuesdays because i need that monday to travel um you excited for evo i already like like right now i i have a fucking crick in my neck like my neck has been sore for the last days because playing that d&d game i was facing the audience but the dm was to my right yeah so i spent a lot of yeah spent three hours looking to the right yeah left that panel neck brook and that's where i'm at now and it hasn't i know a guy he can help you if you want is he a chiropractor no he's not a chiropractor he's a massage therapist okay i mean yeah i've
Starting point is 01:59:37 taken some of our backs to sit i'm monitoring yeah if you want afterwards i'll give you a numbered okay neck up monitoring situation yeah but yeah because that's not great um i'm not gonna be fucking anyway sunday would have been bad uh so we were at what i was talking about evo and i'm saying that evo's coming up it's gonna be fun and i'm entering i entered everything yeah and then i'll see how i feel yeah why right i've done the enter what i've i've done the the the evo where i enter only the things like i'm confident in like maximum confidence yeah and then that sucked i've entered more than i'm confident in and then regretted all other chances sure so now i'm just looking at enter everything enter
Starting point is 02:00:27 everything want to go just go exactly yeah i support i have no problem going out and doing that so let's do it and i'll see if it's an eight a.m garbage pool and it's streetfighter five i might fucking snooze on that but yeah we'll see um big turnout this year for a ton of games oh yeah sam show getting the big push also that sunday looking as different as ever with the final game not being streetfighter for once in fact it's not even the second to last game i know right it goes through fighter tech and then smash right uh yeah with something before that um it's really it's it's really dragon ball that they gave everybody the ability to go to bed early that night anyway uh so yeah that's gonna be going down and uh reggie's coming along with of course so um
Starting point is 02:01:13 well he usually doesn't he hasn't been there in a while yeah yeah i didn't have a passport but you gotta get ready uh so we're gonna be down there so we're gonna be doing it the get into fighting games crew so um yeah come say hi come come meet mr foot fetish himself i am excited to see some high-end scrub quotes this week aggressive like i'm one of the best players in the world and i just set some stupid childish ignorant shit on stage because i lost to be honest i'm surprised that scrub quotes scrub quotes is not being filled with like fox news articles because the amount of bullshit coming off of the fortnight stuff guess what right when i went right before you hit the music i was looking at the scrub quotes fox news that's awesome thank god easy way to
Starting point is 02:02:10 cheat in fortnight hide in the bushes then wait till the end of the game sometimes you can win without doing anything it's on the screen on the tv the amount of people the amount of old ass corny motherfuckers that don't know anything that suddenly went wait a minute three million dollars okay for real though that prize is i don't know that championships probably not in the news this week right because i do want to talk about for two minutes that prize is absolutely crazy go nuts tiger woods winning the fucking pga whatever didn't earn even close to what that that prize money you know what's crazier 50th place got a hundred k yep that's the place that's the crazier story like it pays to get that good yeah and the difference between 50th and first like literally
Starting point is 02:03:08 like the the alex vae quotas if you're not top eight who are you right like i would say top 32 top 32 yeah you know i have friends that have cleared top 50 yeah you know but in fortnight that gets you a hundred k that's a hundred k the fucking sneeze at now but at the same time um the amount of like the fact that like money shows up so uh all the all these stupid old people are showing up and fucking white street fighter on my tv right i'm like oh that dumb thing that i yell at my kids about or is is is like he you're saying he can get paid if he keeps at it yeah yeah yeah that's what i had that conversation with my dad a couple years ago so we're gonna be when they became clear that this was my career yes he was like oh wow i was super wrong good job pat so now we so now we get to
Starting point is 02:03:59 watch round eight of uh cringy old boomers i saw my favorite thing ever was what are fighting games gonna get this kind of prize money when fighting games get millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of players when fighting game when a fighting game is the number one played game by every kid on the final world yeah yeah that's one anyway uh the other thing you don't want to think about because it's gonna be is all that money being like a sneeze for epic of course yeah um is also what is allowing them to continue to ruin and annoy everybody there was a there was one thing that i saw people uh getting weird about at the tournament the number two guy used a controller uh and in fortnite controller users have aim assist and that doesn't
Starting point is 02:04:52 get turned off for the tournament okay which allows you to do things that other people can't do like titan fall you are able to see people behind objects because it tracks because it will track them okay and there's a lot of people going like this is fucked but i don't know how i feel about that because the mouse keyboard people obviously have an aiming advantage yeah yeah it's hard to say it's hard to say it's like there needs to be clearly quake proved that there needs to be uh a help yeah it's just how much should it be right also i find it weird that a game like fortnite got turned into a big tournament it's considering that you don't play in controlled arenas ever so everything about the game is random well that's my question is are these all people playing
Starting point is 02:05:35 not together i don't know how the tournament work are you playing to yeah in the ideal scenario that i live in in my world and i would like somebody to tell me if i'm right you uh qualify and there's a hundred people to qualify on a private server and they drop them into a private server and the winner is the person who wins yeah but it sounds like uh oh i don't know if that's what they actually do but i i know that like normal groups of people meeting up to play to competitive fortnite don't have control over making a private server right so you play for points per game okay play for points right so you play enough games yeah it's round robin it's round robin with a situation that lets you have a lot of games at once okay that makes sense
Starting point is 02:06:21 but it's not as good as the competitive aspect that we just described yeah right where you'd want i mean could you imagine how fucking high stakes a game would be where people are dropping in and you win three million dollars if you get to the end of this game yeah yeah yeah if you get the right gun right away how fucking dirty it would get oh my getting the right gun right away getting the right shit pickups right away yeah um but no but i was gonna say like the game stop one player fight against the cpu and street fighter for the highest score tournament like that it kind of feels like you have to do that because the game doesn't let you do a hundred private slots yeah anyway um it's a while it's weird to think that a battle royale competition
Starting point is 02:07:08 is not that yeah because that's the strength of the genre but look forward to at least another couple months if not weeks of this new cycle going through until they have nothing else to talk about oh you know what you know what it is everybody's old and dumb and shook at the money in video games you have a hundred people but what the competitors don't know is that their seats have been like fit with like coils and when you get killed in the game you get like rocketed into the audience like like catapulted and then it becomes a death game see these are tactical sips to allow you to further elaborate on this dumb shit on your nonsense yeah
Starting point is 02:07:56 can we just summarize every pat you know what it should be with blood sport the people should the people should die yeah yeah every single time yes okay we got it we see it should be a lethal version of the thing we're talking about he's doing the bit yeah great i think it's cool when people die in sports great great yeah yeah established understood uh now to shit on that same money all right let's shit on it that same fucking money that we just talked about in fortnight there are a bunch of like young kids that got like their lives significantly improved by being good at fortnight that's awesome that's awesome that's super awesome that that like 17 or 18 year old kid now let's talk about our minor inconveniences
Starting point is 02:08:46 that cancel just hey are you an angry mech warrior 5 fan well if you're not just keep listening we're making mech for your 5 exclusive to the epic star get your refunds if you want them we got enough money it's fine i think this one might have actually been uh some kind of violation of law by the mech warrior devs because they were still selling steam keys when they knew that they were going to take the deal until the deal is signed and the ink is dried they're not going to stop uh so yeah sales a sale and it's not their money they're refunding it's true man that's real that's really open the gates up the fuck do i give a shit how do i somebody
Starting point is 02:09:30 tell me on twitter how i get a fucking shenmu refund i don't even know where to write and it all comes down to fixing the store just fix it see they're still looking for a qa lead no they are which means they're not offering competitive rates for it like if you have a position to fill i'm not an economist but if you just keep putting the number higher you'll fill the position yeah i feel like um i mean if we haven't really introduced a story but it's because it's the same one we've been repeating for the last month or two hey um the statue of epic is making this game exclusive other people were already spending money on it uh on not the epic store and now they have to figure out how you get those
Starting point is 02:10:21 people's money back they delayed the game by two months to add stuff to it and that's fine yeah sure but you know um yeah another another i find that the epic store is quite easy to manage if you route everything through steam but then you have to run both that sucks yeah do you have the uh what game is it the tetris thing on here no tetris effect is exclusive on pc yeah this is done the epic store for pc yeah but did you know what you have to have on your pc as well to turn it on steam steam yeah you had that deal that's to me that shows how fast and loose these deals are getting signed they don't even care that the game requires steam to boot in vr just make it exclusive yeah whatever it uses steam whatever the player will figure it out on their end and if they don't
Starting point is 02:11:21 here's all the money yeah just here just it's like every time somebody asks a question they feed them a one million dollar bill yeah so just and you know they're just pushing the bill and so this is this is what fortnight is paying for this this is where it's going is it's it's it's this is how it affects the rest of the industry not by remember what we said like oh um whatever game sales are affected by fortnight because uh they've taken 70 percent of all the money spent or something like that yeah there's some crazy money though some some insane stat of like fortnight money is like compared to every other game money is like wild yeah that's crazy it's crazy fortnights but like now it's like no no no no but now the fortnight profit is actually
Starting point is 02:12:09 the fortnight profit reaches out and taking well it's not taking the game away but it's it's putting it behind a really annoying gate yeah this is what it is i've seen a lot of people treat this in a way that i think is smart and a good way to cool your blood pressure is well i'll be waiting for the patched up completely fixed up like extra content version that will be dropping on steam later you can or g o g or see but like out of wiles we were just talking about it and then you got to end that with so it's on the epic store just deal with that if you want if you want to wait then the game will be slightly improved by the time you get there hope you don't get spoiled in the meantime it's a relatively small indie game as long as you don't talk to anybody about it you're
Starting point is 02:12:51 unlikely to actually get spoiled on it well it's slowly making its way up the ranks and getting talked about more and more yeah because it's the fucking shit yeah like it was like i said to the xbox game pass blew it up i remember seeing like that game get picked up and we we talked about it and we're like yeah so this game called out of wiles whatever right footnote like who cares and now i'm like oh this stings actually this one's a boo ah well mech warrior five mercenaries um god bless sorry to hear about that's a real mercenary decision of them warm warm that doesn't even anyway it is shut up it works uh understandably some fans will be disappointed about the delay yeah okay i feel i feel like for any big kickstart like big kickstart that has
Starting point is 02:13:40 like a real development team and publisher behind it uh or not publisher but dev team um part of the pitch or part of the q and a in the kickstarter period has to be are you going to take epics deal when they when they offer you the deal right um that needs to be addressed in the in the thing from now on or you how about you just take the kickstarter and send the url to epic and say hello public yeah just hey epic would you like to kickstart this game you are the only backer there is one tier i think and it's called epic tier i think i brought it up like last week or two weeks ago if epic was just funding all of these games yes no one would be upset at all everyone will be like oh that's great they're making a bunch of cool games yes but they're not
Starting point is 02:14:29 they're waiting for existing games that people are excited about and poaching them away it sucks you know which you know on any other circumstance in any other case like no one gets as upset about exclusives on other things when the platform functions yeah that's that's i keep have to bring it back to that because it is true that it's it is possible to get like i mean god i feel i can feel the exhaustion of talking about this again oh yeah i can feel the exhaustion of anybody that's like get over it guys can we can move on to another topic and it's like i know i'm right there with you there's a real and also there's also the part where the more you harp on about it the bigger a deal you make it seem to the point where um you start to sound like an entitled asshole yeah
Starting point is 02:15:11 which is not what i want and it's what you want but it's not what i want however at the end that's why i want to always redirect it to fix the thing i don't know i think the consumer is entitled to certain things and i think the Kickstarter backers in particular are explicitly actually entitled to know what is going on with the things that they back i agree uh i am but i i guess i'm speaking to um person who is hearing the 18th iteration of an epic store yeah like complaint it's it we're gonna talk less about it but we're gonna mention it just as often because it's not gonna slow down anytime soon we're not even a year in to this so we're not even at the big ones like borderlands yeah i mean i'm pretty much like done thinking about pokemon as far as that story
Starting point is 02:16:06 goes i only have one extra one that's really fun people dug up a quote from 2011 where they're like oh we could never have a game that doesn't have all the pokemon in it that's bringing your pokemon forward from all the way back in red and blue that's an integral part of the experience the same guy yeah okay well of course it is the masuda and everyone's getting all fired up and it's like yeah of course he said that and he was right well in funner news let's a let's get some good a who wants some good news um dragon quest fans the dragon quest hero dropped from smash and not from smash into smash today oh yeah sure and we got the uh did you watch this list okay so you know how all these dlcs are getting insane amounts of love yeah well yeah he gets a move list right like a
Starting point is 02:16:59 like a command wheel he gets more the most moves of anyone in the entire video game yeah because he gets uh a chargeable fire fire spell i didn't know this fire spell names in dragon quest followed like that that naming convention the nomenclature but it's like um the sound effect of the element is what the spell is uh so woosh swoosh and kawoosh or kasoosh or whatever are the three tiers of what of wind spell and then so you have whatever up be wind spell yeah tilt fire spell lightning neutral and then down be command wheel and the command wheel is like another 20 moves and it's just all the other spells it seems it's so much and like um you you see like four of the moves appear at random and like you can select by using the shoulder pads which one you're
Starting point is 02:18:00 gonna use yeah and like some of them are like fucking instant kill and some of them are like just a really good slash okay some of them are instant kill if you're metal they're they're so particular and weird that it's almost like taking the whole like random thing it's like building the random smashness into a character again you know that's fun what's up try and get away from no i'm just like that's ridiculous yeah try and get away from items now you it's a bitch a bitch and fuck it's a fucking move list you know this character is item um it almost reminds me of what gene would play like if he were to exist where there would have to be a dedicated wheel of all the rest of this yeah of his moves right you know um yeah gene getting in smash bros that's
Starting point is 02:18:50 that's or anything yeah or anything like if gene got into marvel he would have that wheel because that would be the only way to do it right in my opinion but also objectively and speaking of smash speaking of marvel we can go right into that story so we talked some time ago about when there was leaks of like venom and uh winter soldier yeah and that whole phase of of marvel infinite characters and they showed a television on a on a on a table and then the curtains in the background people reverse engineered a reverse fucking detective to figure out that those are the same curtains that that are in a picture of filipino champ's living room oops so they figured out that he was the one that put out this information guess what it
Starting point is 02:19:41 was it totally was f champ well i mean hard confirmed and that went away and that was what it was well anyway this time he came back uh it's like whatever nda he was under is clearly dead except it's not because all the footage is now gone well the story exists he felt very confident talking on stream might not have been the best idea but nonetheless the story exists the footage is deleted unless people saved it yeah they surely did i'm sure uh so it's him talking about marvel infinite and how marvel infinite was slated to have 61 fucking characters in it or we saw at least that many files for characters yeah there were slots because some people but some people are arguing that like the footage doesn't guarantee that that's what they were that they're saying that
Starting point is 02:20:26 that could have been referencing something else but the he had a build with a dev kit that shows off 61 slots and uh uh uh 18 stages originally planned so this was this was supposed to be a big expanding roster in theory until it didn't didn't do shit yeah and that is sad because all it had to do was the same thing that marvel did marvel 3 did i remember hearing that the idea was they put it out but they were going to keep working on it and they were going to redo parts like over time but then it died because it sucked like if they just re-released marvel 3 and then added new character content packs that would have been great it would have actually been a better a better idea capcom's fighting game division's been kind of a mess for a while
Starting point is 02:21:21 i was talking to also the marvel tie-in wouldn't have they wouldn't have liked that yeah i was talking to a friend of mine about sf5 which i really like but everything about sf5 that isn't fighting another person in sf5 has pretty much been a mess the whole life of the game and i just hope that there's there's stuff that i like um i like the fact that they gave a shot at an mk style story mode sure they just didn't do a good one i just mean the the way characters roll out and the way that the the fucking fight money shit got weird and complicated it's like but here's the thing right if you were to ask me what the new what a new street fighter game should have coming off of four yeah i absolutely would say you can earn money and spend that to buy
Starting point is 02:22:09 characters instead of paying for it if you do if you don't play it enough you can um you have a mortal combat style story mode yeah uh seasons of characters that come in waves um alongside balanced patches you know what i mean all of that is shit that i would absolutely want and then i'd even go as far as to say like little fun things in the story mode like little guest characters and and um an arcade mode for for just you know quick single player fun like all of that shit challenges dailies weekies that's all shit that i would be like that sounds great so it's not about that to me necessarily i don't know i feel like street firefighters it's kind of been like weird the whole time that's me on the outside of the sf5 community like it just didn't hit the way
Starting point is 02:23:02 forwarded i think that as someone that was inside of it what most of the people playing it got hit with and i can see it and i definitely agree and it's you know there is a sense of boredom that came from the the normal state of play right the normal gameplay there was like some boredom that came around from the crush counter sort of fishing and from the way that it became pretty optimal to just kind of stick to one game plan um a lot of people just kind of went like yeah we're still doing the same thing and it's been about five years you know um it's not a big evolution of not huge you know i remember even back but st had like stages of evolution but there's fantastic things like all like season three was really there was a lot of cool shit man we got manat we got abagail big old
Starting point is 02:24:07 goof you know bullshit abagail we got would you say that the system doesn't allow a lot of room for g and sega it's rad um at intermediate levels you start to hit that like optimized ceiling that you usually hit a lot further in yeah that's not good because it becomes very clear what you should be doing to win a lot earlier in your skill i think i hit it and i'm not good like i'd play abagail it's like i know what i should be doing right here and i know what the optimum thing for me to do right here would be i can't do the optimum thing because i suck and you shouldn't be doing anything else yeah for that matter um but yeah uh uh uh you know i mean like they're like there there was so there was just like that was kind of like some of the the issue really but on paper a
Starting point is 02:25:05 lot of what what they were doing is things that i would love to see come back and uh whatever we'll find out what happened soon i hope monster hunter man does his good job with capcom's fighting games as he did with monster hunter i hope so too but in the meantime marvel infinite 61 characters makes me sad somehow deader than it was before when i hear this somehow yet 61 characters looking the way they did yeah oh here's gill and he looks bad i mean if this somehow freed up the way for capcom versus capcom then god bless it was like they should call it capcom versus exactly exactly and if not game i don't want capcom all stars i don't want fucking whatever everyone's quite everyone's got their theories about what we're going to be seeing next weekend at evo as an
Starting point is 02:25:57 announcement and uh whether or not a new game is going to get dropped and i don't know but i would hope that the mysterious fighting game we heard about them working on a couple years ago i hope that they drop that i have my suspicions the realistic fighter or cvc nah i'm not gonna ask you so um capcom's got a lot of stuff coming out in the pipe speaking of things in the pipe io interactive now that they are fully fully in charge of their destinies i on their own why why do you keep doing this you keep doing it too um there's a third hitman title they're working on
Starting point is 02:26:49 but a brand new ip entirely as well yeah uh so totally unshalking they would keep going with the new hitmans because the new hitmans have been amazing and popular but they're making something else too yeah spiritual successor to freedom fighters hitman series following the girl that you save in in absolution the new assassin shut up she was set up to be the the nadley portman oh who cares to his uh genre no didn't you feel it the passing of the baton no because it didn't finish absolution because it sucked there's like there's like an assassin girl who cares that game success it's a bad hitman game well oh yeah it's a hitman game which the core plot is that the hitman is framed for murder see they haven't touched anything besides
Starting point is 02:27:55 hitman since canan lunch too yeah all right freedom wars come on freedom wars am i saying the right thing freedom fighters that game is awesome dude um now not the outer worlds but excuse me i already fucked it up jesus christ do it i'm done these two games man the outer worlds not the outer wilds the one by obsidian is coming to the switch really oh you missed that yeah i did this morning that's quite surprising yep and everyone's like lol is this game gonna run it and it's like they ran the witcher well that's magic
Starting point is 02:28:47 and we still haven't seen that i mean there's some footage yeah it's running witcher three that's really quite crazy if the switcher is the switcher is running the witcher three yeah then there's no problem yeah are you all right i'm i'm drinking my cold brew there's if the if it can run that then the discussion about what it can and can't do is over in my well the reason why is because the the the game that people associate with obsidian the most heavily is probably still new vegas and you vegas runs like a pile of fucking shit and people have a lot of bad memories of that but the pillars games ran fine right i'm gonna toss this bar all the all the new rpgs they had ran fine like it'll probably be fine
Starting point is 02:29:36 outside of like bloodstained yeah uh have there been any other huge switch like shit versions no but uh to be quite fair there's a lot of games that skip the switch like for the skixer stuff so there isn't a line there isn't a lot to compare mk11 wwe yeah nba it's the we use situation again gotcha so it depends on who's doing it pretty much but it doesn't guarantee a doomed version just because it's on it yeah so we'll see yeah outer worlds outer worlds that's a game i'm also extremely interested in that is also in space and even has a logo and planet and ship it's a style branding that makes it feel like it's the same the first time i don't know i probably mentioned this the first time i streamed outer
Starting point is 02:30:42 wilds for the entire five hour stream i had people coming in going whoa outer worlds eat early because even when you look at the screenshot in twitch of streaming now it looks like the other game and your brain just edits out the eye yeah um and outer wilds was in development for six years so they're in the clear on that one is private division the the porting team i have no idea remember i didn't even know about the story until you mentioned it other the publisher from take two interactives michael warsz warsz okay got it oh they did also ancestors are doing ancestors yeah whatever happened to that in kerbal space program i don't oh wow i completely forgot fucking panache and uh patrice desilet
Starting point is 02:31:38 is he ever gonna get to make another game i mean he's working on ancestors is he ever going to get to make another game he's making it as far as i heard all right you just say heard heard okay uh i'm happy to hear that despite the fact that it really sounded like everything went as south as possible with jonan vasquez and the people that held the rights to invader zim they found a way to have invader zim come back to netflix as a movie and that's cool that's cool everybody likes invader zim invader zim's great really funny i love it love that really was hoping to get uh well it's been so long since the idea for what the conclusion would have been with the last season and then invader dib but um whatever man i'm happy
Starting point is 02:32:37 to see it and i'm happy that they've got i hope that all the voice actors can return um but in the meantime in august invader zim is back on netflix yay sounded like um billy west was was pretty done at the time but uh yeah we'll find out more soon oh yeah august is now that is now hello august how are you doing uh then not much left just a little bit here in there they leaked who the next and final dragon ball fighters character is going to be it's probably janenba i mentioned this three months ago yay for janenba boo for the sausage fest being complete yeah well how the sausage is made you know how the sausage is made you put it next to another sausage and then you package them
Starting point is 02:33:37 all together and then you add another package wait a second janenba's not even a guy he's a fucking demon he's a blurb yeah he's a blurb to turn into a demon yes but now we have 21 18 and vedel with help from boyfriend that's right and i'm like what about the khaliflux keff what about it they would have been good how many brollies do you need we're missing bio shit every time bio brolly sucks why is he so much weaker brolly questions yeah that's that's what that's what today's about today's about brolly questions why is he so much weaker still i mean look i'm not saying chi chi in the armor
Starting point is 02:34:43 is gonna make the cut i understand that she doesn't that's quite fine i have no problem with janenba janenba school man we're getting vejito and gojita did we need both brollies we didn't we did we needed both brollies his powers maximum dbz has a roster problem but it's the franchise not yeah that's what i mean yeah dbz has a roster problem because instead of more characters there are 35 variations of every character are there more goku's than there are like hold on there are are there more many goku's are there more goku's than there are sayans is what i wanted to ask maybe because it's not obviously not characters
Starting point is 02:35:40 but goku's versus sayans okay let's take you from the top chronological okay do you want to say it's first or goku's and are we talking about inclusion in the in the game or the story in general let's say let's say uh in the story and like practical for a move list okay so because king vejita is not a move okay so there we have bar doc you have bar doc start radish right nappa goku vejita we're at five trunks gohan go ten go ten broly broly uh let's get the girls in there okay 11 oh we're doing the alternate universes so the the the super the supers so the the two the two girls so that's 11 trunks yes i said trunks future trunks i met future trunks do you do who cares about young trunks he's another
Starting point is 02:36:37 person is he yeah okay fine that's to me he's literally walking in it from another reality with a jacket on i count it different okay that's that's 12 pan okay pan's human pan is half wait am i stupid sorry no what am i thinking of not krillin's kid but um um uh vejita and uh uh but trunks is uh vejita and trunks is a kid no vejita and trunks is a kid vejita and broly's uh oh my god i'm so stupid stop talking all right never mind bra bra the baby bra it's a baby yeah she's 13 all right we're including babies and no there's no universe yeah yeah 13 if you include bra okay i i'm okay i just couldn't remember bra now in relax in fucking dbz fighters
Starting point is 02:37:30 you have base goku kid goku kid goku goku goku yeah blue goku blue uh rosé black black goku other black goku wait what do you mean other black go there's there's there's no no no no there's black goku black fine black goku black all right you've got uh uh uh uh thordox a goku in this in this scenario he absolutely is you've you've got super saiyan uh three i mean he's not not in not in the roster but i'm just saying if we're doing the you got super saiyan three you got you you want to count two yeah all right you count one two three um okay then hold on take it back back back up okay no we're doing how many goku forms there are yes yes okay so we got 13 right 13 all right kid goku one uh ozaru two uh one two three that's five regular
Starting point is 02:38:31 right regular regular hold on regular goku we're not even super saiyan yet regular goku okay right we can make bare for it we're three already fuck it right we're three without any one two three that's six uh vejino gojina that's uh eight blue red yeah blue that's 10 um possessed by zamazoo that's black goku that's 11 ultra instinct that's 12 that's 12 right that's all the goku's right there are you are you are you making a distinction between kid goku and gt goku kid no because gt goku kid is another goku that's 13 four super saiyan four yeah that's that's that's 14 uh there uh oh power it up four uh uh fucking uh omega shedron gojina
Starting point is 02:39:33 five that's 15 there are totally more goku's than there are saiyans and you can blast every version of gt kid goku into all of the above yeah or at least up to saiyan super saiyan one and yeah you're right he can't he can't go ssj three as a kid kid gt goku go super saiyan yeah there there there are there are like 16 17 18 goku's there are more goku's than there are saiyans and we included babies and people from alternate universes golden ozaru yeah yeah there are more goku's you could you could have a real fighting game with a big roster that's literally literally just all goku there is a roster problem in dbc how do you make that not okay well here's so in the budokai game how do you make that not boring
Starting point is 02:40:26 right in the budokai games you have one goku and he goes and he it's it's level you create you transform right but here's the other problem right and this is what we learned from xenoverse and everyone who played a whole lot of xenoverse yeah i had the pleasure of sitting next to a zunoverse tournament yes that took place at a con i was at were they spamming block they were certainly were and uh they were getting super hyped for anyway whatever there's competitive xenoverse out there all right so the problem is that those 15 goku's on individual slots is exactly what the hardest core fans want it's what they want so what are who are we who are we say don't do that who are we who are we i enjoyed a dragon ball also my opinion
Starting point is 02:41:13 has just as much value yeah yeah it's a series that was custom built to ruin its video games down the line you know what you know what you should do you know what you could do for those folks what here's the level they care about that you could that you could you could do make all of those goku forms costumes sure and make the final level three attack be a different animation be a unique animation that is custom to that character's big sorted yeah except zenoverse fans also get new brand new stupid not real things that never existed and get excited for them uh well anyway and let's not even talk about dragon ball heroes where you have fucking dark broly and all that stupid shit he's got an evil mask i wanted to say um uh um
Starting point is 02:42:12 budokai uh um like early teen fighting demon pick a low goku as a different one as well but we don't have to get that is that the one of world's strongest that's the one where he has no blue undershirt yeah he looks good and he has no boots on yeah that's the goku we don't see enough of that's the goku i believe in the one that gets his fucking legs snapped by king pick a low and he's and he does the poses yeah he does the martial arts all right uh and last let's take it over to uh oxenoid second to last uh Kickstarter out there for anyone who's interested seems very pretty what's it called sprite based helveti with two eyes so like helvetica yeah uh this is a 2d character action game lovingly made with hand drawn art and animation based around Celtic Celtic both
Starting point is 02:43:08 um and gallish mythology you can say both i don't know why but you can um helveti is uh uh it when i looked at it i watched it i checked it out and from looking at the gameplay it seems very um uh what god damn it i'm so bad with my memory but it's that game that looked like the 2d dark souls thing with the guy with cloak um and i played a bunch of it death scambit death scambit it seems very death scambit to me uh it has a little bit of that you know that little flavor of flash jank i do right where things like it's hand drawn animation and it's tweened but it's still squashing stretching and sliding a lot it has that going on in addition to vanilla ware style uh slidey things but uh it's pretty and um it does look quite pretty yes
Starting point is 02:44:11 so that's out in kickstarter if you think it is your so these i hit the kickstarter page and i did some searching on it and there appear to be uh at least one or two details that have been left out of the kickstarter campaign uh holy shit fuck me never mind i went to the questions page and much like i said earlier in this podcast in the f a q question number one will this surely release on steam or will you pull the rug out with the epic game store we know this is the hot button question right now with kickstarter and yes we fully intend to stick by steam we acknowledge the epic game store surely has good deals but we acknowledge that we prefer to serve our players convenience and comfort first and steam is by far uh steam is by popular consensus a better
Starting point is 02:44:59 option for that by far so we'll absolutely stick to steam if we go by epic game store it will not be by any exclusive means last updated on monday july 29 2019 i fucking knew it you have kickstarters absolutely are going to have to start fucking saying that right away you have to answer yeah yeah so good hey good good on you helvetty getting it out clear there because i was gonna make the joke it doesn't say epic on this list but i i eagerly await this game's exclusivity contract with the epic game store right there uh you there are stands he's calling out stands i i had to rewind it to make sure i was seeing correctly but uh he appears to be summoning stands and using them to fight there are different stands looks cool all right yeah you have to answer the question you
Starting point is 02:45:52 it it will it's now going to come up the first time a human being can talk to anyone at a project every time first thing well it is uh seeking uh well i have the canadian money up here so yeah it's 26k canadian uh looks like it's yeah 26k canadian and it's at nine of 26k converted from chf the fuck is that i don't know hey guys what the fuck currency is chf never heard of that rupees kroner why would it be rupees how would chf be fucking rupees any swiss swiss swiss franc swiss francs ah weird how do you get those letters to turn into the swiss have a weird language i've never heard swiss spoken well that's because there isn't one haha i tricked the dumber ones is canadian c a n c a or c d n c d n you know it depends on where you look it changes everywhere
Starting point is 02:47:02 yeah well it's literally c a on the page we're looking at right now yeah well yeah all right so that's helvedi um and yeah you don't really see a lot of uh Celtic slash Celtic and uh such lore so that's cool the welsh fuck sheet this i have heard dog themed multiplayer action game play dog play tag coming to pc via steam early access japanese based developer project pegasus it's called play dog play tag play dog play tag four players you are a dog your owner is ragdolling behind you there is a okay i you know already see
Starting point is 02:47:59 the like the gang beasts looking you are a dog there is a bandit the the the the the bandit is getting away and you have to catch him so uh you are running out of control with the split screen and the oh my god that's hilarious and the dog and play dog play tag important buildings oh god what the fuck is this game buildings do not count as obstacles you just blow through the buildings they fly apart the woofers can crush through the entire city as a destructible object because you have the power to charge a dog rush and then run through the the building to get this looks like gang beasts and like goat simulator together this looks hilarious so your dogs are indestructible and your owners are uh fucked it reminds me of like the video game version of
Starting point is 02:49:02 like that old internet skit immortal dog play dog your dog is heavy his breathing loud he stares at the sun unblinking you ever seen immortal dog it's fucking stupid wow it's really good wow so yeah i i thought that was pretty strong coming to early access at some point this year that's my dog play tag oh yeah people in the chat know your dog is easy to kill speaking of kill yes kill off this podcast hey some questions apparently I screwed up the email last week don't do that yeah well well where do you send an email in castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com your email might be read on the air
Starting point is 02:50:01 and possibly answered or just like us go I don't know that's a good question though or if you're a jerk you use it to sign up for stupid shit oh you seeing that shit now yeah yeah that's a good fucking atkins oh okay like I don't know that's okay like just type gibberish yeah type gibberish what's the point oh well what do you got what do we got this week I guess me acknowledging it is the point yeah you got it it's it's an arrow click yeah we got one coming in from um oh let's take it from christian says last minute evo trip their csb go to vegas with my dad this weekend he's got some reunion stuff to do I mostly plan on dishing out online job applications texted a few fgc friends um thinking of buying a badge for the second day this is my
Starting point is 02:50:55 third evo what's a solid way of trolling the yo video games crew if I see them i'm christian you just say hello you can just say you appreciate that's the ultimate troll right there say you appreciate yo video games crew there there were hates being said and um that you know you look forward to the next episode tell kenny the melina sucks you look forward to the next episode of woolly we'll figure it out putting troll plugs into into people uh meow bag downward stickier dare mega ultra super castle turbo beasts what up man we're gamers we know the epitome of a setting for video game levels is the sewers they're all good well they we each have our favorites what are your favorite or most hated sewer levels for me it's re2 it's
Starting point is 02:51:53 relatively short but it has the best fmv and most importantly it did not make me want to stick my fingers in my eyes since i said re2 pat is now disallowed well my most disliked sewer level by fucking far is the one from castlevania uh castlevania just vampire the masquerade blood lines where you have to go find the the you gotta go find the nasferatu it just goes on forever you know anything about castle fucking vampire blood lines it's a talky game rpg you talk with people you have vampire adventures the one that's not senko no ronde that's right yes well this part has senko no ronde wait no rondo jesus okay well you blew right past it i did okay but this this is like two and a half hours of straight combat and it's a game with bad combat it sucks ass
Starting point is 02:52:47 i'm gonna give a big shout out to resident evil to remake sewer level which is fantastic and a great remix on the three or four rooms from the original you tried to get me but you fail worse sewer level of all time i'm still gonna give it to ninja turtles that's not a sewer you're talking about the dam yeah that's not sewer it's underneath the dam it's a reservoir come on fuck you it's not sewer it's a reservoir totally different best sewer level i'm gonna give it to uh royal waterways hollow knight oh yeah it's you don't think you're going down there oh that's good and then you do there you go when you go when you go when you go and then you hear it yeah and you hear him and he pops up yeah oh he's great that's sewer level for sure for sure
Starting point is 02:53:46 that dude's a great that's awesome smells smells bad uh hey punch dad and sleutered dad i'm a veteran destiny player since 2014 and i wanted to get your opinion on the infrastructure changes yeah if you haven't seen any news about how destiny is changing here's 10 quick and easy things uh going down at bungee uh one they bought out of their 10-year plan with activision they bought out that's how it happened that's interesting two with the split d2 is no longer on the blizzard launcher yeah they're gonna kick it over to steam three with the game moving to steam um uh in a reveal steam stream for all this info they made a joke about how they needed an epic platform uh destiny will be entirely self-published with no
Starting point is 02:54:35 help from supporting activision studios yeah the game will be rebranded under the name destiny new light and will be free to play for a year um for one for year one content excuse me so everything that you would have bought a box copy of destiny off the of the shelf all dlc will be elacart with no actual demand for previous expansions to play the current content like a personus iris in warm mind uh with that change comes big content drops for many seasons that follow the bridge uh follow to bridge the game uh to the new title uh dlc the cash store eververse will be 100 revamped where you can buy everything bright dust with bright dust in game currency and have actual activities and bounties they're basically gonna try and warframe it or sounds a lot like that yeah uh bungee has
Starting point is 02:55:24 completely gone into the mmo lane um saying that if the game walks and walks like a duck and looks like a duck it's a duck activision has been scared of the term for a long time so i'd like to go into slightly more detail on that because it's very indicative of the problems they had activision said we want we want okay destiny cool great got it okay you do destiny one then you do destiny two destiny three and bungee was pretty much the whole time he like well it's kind of like a long running thing and they wanted to have destiny two have all the stuff from destiny one in it but dev time so this is a big like forward-looking improvement in that it's like it is an mmo and if they're actually gonna start treating it like an mmo that's quite positive in fact it
Starting point is 02:56:08 sounds like they had no problem with that except activision activision was like no you could put that shit out you put and they you know they got around some of it by putting out the big expansions that were boxed kind of thing and lastly um cross save is finally here so you can move your characters from ps4 to xbox to pc and back yeah it's good it's good that's fucking excellent yeah somebody asked me last night do i have any plans on going in on destiny two it would have been there sooner but they had hold backs in the form of ps4 exclusivity and activision yeah that makes sense uh am i planning to hit destiny two up now that apparently it's we're in that destiny part of life cycle where it's good now by turning it into warframe uh but no
Starting point is 02:56:53 it's actually just good now right now okay and i don't know uh the main thing that i would talk about is like i play ff 14 and i play warframe i don't think i have room for a third one of those types of just investments right there's only so many time for dailies in a day if i want to play other games but i'm definitely gonna keep my eye on it i'm probably gonna start i'm probably gonna play it i'm probably gonna start a new character uh with the new stuff on steam because i don't i don't know i i i'm i'm totally disconnected from all the stuff that i did but they just added something there explicitly so that you don't have to yeah but it's it's tough to explain also it'll cost you nothing but time yeah um interesting smart person obviously
Starting point is 02:57:52 like that's all you're fucking i'm i'm fascinated by i guess the time that would tell me is like because now destiny three doesn't have to exist right i have a question they can just add to it between all of the schluders yeah which endgame aesthetics do you like the most when you say aesthetics like endgame armor look to your dude which do you like the most of of them which is the most satisfying satisfying more frame easy okay you have by far the most control over your color and your look and your accessories and your little pieces and it also has a very unique techno organic like diver look that none of the others have mm-hmm destiny two's biggest problem is that the shader stuff and the way you look it was so hard to actually control because i i the other day i saw
Starting point is 02:58:51 that uh some i was looking at some digimon go go figure yeah and i realized something i hate the way every digimon looks in its starting form every single one and the way it ends up is it better than every pokemon yep out there ever ever made like they all look like put the they all look like pokemon for pussies at stage one and then the end stage is a fighting game character it's actively get it away from me yeah and then get in harder than ever before but you gotta go through the baby stage yeah yeah so that's uh like it's all and the funny thing is like it's almost like it's like it's not even the baby stage it's like the larva stage right Bulbasaur is cool it took a couple years to get there but it looks like a Bulbasaur yeah like this is what if
Starting point is 02:59:46 you were looking at a the bulb the bulb with the face on it yeah you know like you like the embryo and it jumps around and goes yeah you know i'm adorable yeah yeah yeah yeah um anyway so that's interesting uh we got what coming in from uh Dwayne says they're a beast boy and boy beast yo man i was re-listening to an older podcast in my commute and i heard woolly talking about the earliest iterations of netflix got me thinking about my experience with it i was a junior in high school and uh and around 2011 ish my mom came with this new service she wanted to try 599 you'd say get send dvds in the mail yeah limited streaming um skip skip skip skip skip uh we opted in for the early streaming aspects on my 360 now early netflix was a trip because it had lots of b movies
Starting point is 03:00:39 noticeable tv show very few noticeable tv shows at first but they were getting better the filtering system was really bad i found softcore porn and horror and comedy all in the same sections yeah the most notable things though my friends and i always talk about is that it had an integrated party feature when navigating in netflix's interface you could invite friends it would create a party with whichever friends you invited up to eight would gather together and your me's would show up in a little virtual theater and you'd watch the same movies together that's cool actually there was even a throw popcorn button where you could throw shit at the screen it disappeared after one update and has never been mentioned or re-implemented in any way since yeah sounds to me
Starting point is 03:01:20 like the people who were licensing their movies out did not want you to share that content with people as in the thing that it says at the beginning of a movie you buy for home use is this is intended for home use well but you could you know the only people would be able to do that would be uh people who also have subs netflix right like that's the way around it oh i don't know i i mean if it's the software then i guess it would be right yeah because there's a new yeah that's true somebody linked me to a youtube link thing that was basically the ability to you'd send a link to somebody and then you'd feed it youtube videos and then i would like play the youtube videos at the same time for everybody watching yeah and we were using it to look at like stupid yeah yeah we've seen those but
Starting point is 03:02:02 what if you have uh british netflix and i have canadian netflix and you watch a show i don't have well i guess you can go shove it licensee holder i guess so because it's rich presence remember rich presence every you you fight to get the word rich presence out of your mouth every time you can once a year rich presence whoever thought that title up had their fucking whole head of their al hole i want to i want to i want to blame it on um um um on peter himself i want to blame it on peter more i want to say he came out yeah it feels like it came up more feels like a more ism anybody works at microsoft at that era and knows who came up with the term rich presence please contact well they are i to let us know
Starting point is 03:02:52 if their whole head was up their own ass see it's like you know like how they have like rich text you know it's like it's like my presence i'm here like i'm present in front of you but it's enriched okay let me ask you a question what's worse what is worse to you the like a feature having some fucking fap name like that like oh yeah processing right or hey we're just getting windows ready for you we'll we'll be ready in just a second we're just we're just tidying up a few uh that fucking conversational ui language hope just a few more things um tell me what you're doing show me a list of programs that are being oh i hate it don't just run dos just run fucking dos and show me files as they appear
Starting point is 03:03:44 as you touch them i hate it so um okay okay i had no problem with conversational ui until i hit that one that said hey man give google give microsoft edge a chance would shut up it doesn't actually say when you go when you search with bing chrome at bing edge whatever the fuck when you search with the browser bing edge when you search with bing edge for google chrome a pop-up goes your browser might not be you might not still be microsoft edge browser the uh fucking do you want to make sure that it still is yeah you want to you want to keep edging bro no i don't want to keep edging you want to keep edging i don't want to ask you can edge it for a while i don't want to edge my bang sir i think you should keep
Starting point is 03:04:37 edging oh no well i'm done with the good things happen when you edge all right come on there's a there's a leak when you edge for a memory leak yeah if you edge for too long yeah there's a memory leak on your bang so you then download it and you install chrome and then you like switch the browser in your fucking thing and then in chrome's instructions it pops up and literally has a blurred message that says step one install chrome step two go to browser defaults and step three no step three click ignore the message and clip click yes i'm sure and it blurs the message out and just shows you the words yes i'm sure okay and you're like why would you do that what is this message and then you do it and the message is like hey man give give
Starting point is 03:05:28 microsoft bing edge a chance there's new features you might not even know yet so show me more or yes i'm sure so and that is when i went this needs to stop so this is sad i was annoyed by it for a long time and then the the point where annoyance turned into outrage was when i don't know if it was on an xbox at work or if it was my own pc but i caught the phrase oops something went wrong and let's try and fix that we couldn't figure out what it was and then i and then nothing and then nothing not not even an error code fuck off i i encountered that when i was working on compliance when we had early ass x bones get the fuck out because that's what their messaging all turned into so you would have a crash and then it would just say oops something went wrong
Starting point is 03:06:31 and you're like well thank god for the crash dump yeah because like you can give attached to your bug you're using a dev kit yeah and you're using a dev kit but what the actual fuck on the user end is what am i supposed to fucking do nothing yeah so uh i'm gonna say that that just edges are it out but rich presence and and that kind of shit and so on will always have a special place in my heart especially when the years go by and you haven't heard it in a long time because it never took off but boy did they try they tried internally like really push it push that richness i mean they pushed it on stage they didn't need to go into they did internally that's where it came out i don't even remember like internally it's like uh it's a
Starting point is 03:07:24 guideline so you you're gonna be writing guideline bugs with it you're writing compliance bugs with it um so yeah that feature fucking my computer talking down to me when it's failing is not something i need um and of course it wouldn't have happened if microsoft didn't decide as well that like xbox and windows 10 and everything should have all the same guts all the exactly yeah and metro and so on um my dead computer reinstalling all my shit makes me realize why i never want to fucking update windows and why i'm installing win update stop yeah all the god it's like the only time things go wrong is when you restart it i leave my shit on yes because that's the only time things go wrong anyway uh last one coming in from uh daniel says
Starting point is 03:08:20 dare will she call gay kira and pats key gashkata i got a little bit a couple months ago my friend finally got into watching death note for the first time but when he finished it his first thoughts were that he wished light got away and sympathized with his ideals after trying to press a psychopath after trying to explain to him that you aren't supposed to root for light at all he finally realized that he was a monster uh that's good has there ever been a show movie or a literature that you recommended only to have someone miss the point entirely i'll tell you what light at least at the start to me represents that feeling you get when you hear about like some asshole some grave miscarriage of justice yes right and you're like the system failed yeah and
Starting point is 03:09:10 that's time to put my skull shirt on yeah exactly right the victims failed and uh yeah now we now we got to do it we got to do it ourselves that's what he represents right that's not what he ends up at but that's certainly not where it goes exactly and that beginning feeling is certainly where uh that beginning feeling is kind of like it's that base first reaction that you have that makes you want to go okay you know when the dad jumps over the fucking bailiff to get it the murderer in the courtroom yeah and everyone while that is wrong to do no one's mad and everyone's and everyone's like like bailiff take him out of here remove this man from the courtroom at your pace yeah you know the type of it's that it represents that part of your brain
Starting point is 03:10:05 and then you're supposed to override that with like no no you know society and rules we yes right um well that doesn't turn off for some people i suppose and then they follow through with light all the way to the end and that's not great i recently had a a significant annoyance as a result of my ff 14 streams where um there is there's understanding where a villain comes from and then they're sympathizing with them yeah and i was running into the situation that was the word forward a equivalent of griffith did nothing wrong yeah and people going how could you not sympathize with this character don't you get it wouldn't you do this to livestock and i'm like you need to look at what you're actually typing and think for a second here because all of you
Starting point is 03:11:06 are coming off you're trying to be compassionate and you're all coming off as fucking psycho mass murderers okay okay like when you want when there's a story like shadow bringers or berserk or death note and you hear someone come out and go i don't get it blank did nothing wrong yeah you need to move away from that person fast yeah i mean the like even if right everything else in death note like remained as is the there's an inherent problem like your biggest you don't even have to appeal to um societal harmony sure and uh altruistic virtues whatever yeah to continue to arrive at the conclusion that you probably shouldn't go the route of the death note because wrongful conviction is enough for you to be like mistakes happen you might heart attack somebody
Starting point is 03:12:03 that did nothing mistakes happen straight up yeah and if that person gets like if it's just a matter of you're reported on the news as a criminal therefore you you got to go you know then it's like so that story makes way more sense when it takes place in japan for a japanese reader when the conviction rate is when the conviction rate is a hundred percent a hundred percent and everybody goes to jail is guilty if you get caught and that's the end of that yeah yeah getting caught is guilt yeah yeah right right yeah like it's one of those things it's like yeah but now put it in the context it was written for you're like you know hey and then you get the people who are outside of that context and go well it's totally worth it anyway also framing somebody is like
Starting point is 03:12:47 the best this frame somebody of shoplifting rules they just dropped it bam this world fucking rules for for framers yeah a hundred percent you know so there's that problem and then but what the stories usually are supposed to do is take it from a place where you can sympathize to a place where then they go too far or it's supposed to be that the road to hell is paved with good intentions yes light you got me you didn't want to start killing cops but then he did those cops had to go he was standing in the way of justice right what are you gonna do fight justice what what a really great recent one is hey you know who had a pretty shitty deal who kill monger yeah he had a terrible deal he got screwed over and the and him basically going
Starting point is 03:13:36 yo Wakanda fuck you yeah is super warranted totally you secretive assholes worldwide race war but then you take it over worldwide race war nope but but one plus two does not equals a worldwide race war you didn't get there for okay race war forever no you know that's what it is man like so you yeah the whole sympathizing thing is like if the story does its job there's gonna be a point where they swerve where you can't follow you're like okay the okay yeah okay wait a second unless from the get go you're just all on board which is its own problem or if the story intends it like oceans 11 you never for a second want to see them get arrested why not still it's rob rob it rob rob rob the thing come on like George Clooney so
Starting point is 03:14:31 smoothy smiling and dancing let him I want to rob the place let him rob the place just let him steal the money who's gonna lose the money mgm grand casino all the all the insurance just crime just come let him cry talk about it's fun it's like lupin what's the pain gonna steal this week big crime super on board for the crimes of oceans 11 yeah oh you might even get a story where you you pick your character select street in the beginning crime or no crime yeah like infernal affairs yeah you know are the departed what do you want which version of the story you want to go with crime crime all right we do the crime when you get a crime spot feels good I don't even know which character you're referring to when you say crime or no crime and infernal I mean part one
Starting point is 03:15:25 yeah but which no but which is the crime person yeah well yeah exactly like yeah anyway so that yeah that's that's how that's supposed to work but if you don't get off the ride and then the credits are rolling you need to stop and reevaluate your own systems of justice yeah this this story is really awakened something in me I think I think there's a I should write a manifesto just as you're an asshole and you write for a long time doesn't mean we need to call it a manifesto that is a fantastic quote that I hope people actually use in the future you have you have cut to the heart of that shit good job you know you know the first time when they did when they did that because of the Oklahoma obama yeah they they did that and put it out so
Starting point is 03:16:16 that they could help find the piece of shit yeah and that was the whole point of putting it out yeah not just to be like hey look anyway and then they found him and then they found him by doing that because it had a purpose and he was like oh you got me because there was a reason anyway I think his brother turned him in or something exactly because he recognized the writing yeah so there was a point to putting that out there yeah and not just fucking selling newspapers or whatever anyway all right uh what's going on I'm just streaming over at Angriest Pat on twitch.tv it's twitch.tv slash angriest pat it's tomorrow and friday and saturday good come hang out I'm gonna record some shit tomorrow but I'm pretty much leaving for evo
Starting point is 03:17:12 right away I get like a day here and then I'm out so in the meantime though you know stuff continues uh schedule-wise so yeah upcoming videos include um uh jojo pretty's up right now yeah the outer wilds will be going up um there will be more bayonetta and I want to say let me just 100 percent for certain confirm confirm something if it is up and it is going to be released as the spinny spin loady loads I'm just looking at stupid shit on my phone while woolly does this nope nope nope not done yet okay well a little bit more time in the oven for some other stuff oh yeah you got something special cooking just you know not just shit not edited yet but yeah and yeah we'll uh if you're down at
Starting point is 03:18:08 evo um come hang out say what's up I'm definitely gonna be walking around and I'm gonna be entering a couple things don't please don't if I'm playing at my pools please please let me play at my pools please he needs all the help he can get but if I'm not at my pools let's hang out and no problem um and as usual I'm probably gonna be uh hanging out at maxis panel as well because that's always a super fun time so come say hi uh me and reggie are gonna be there and otherwise uh check out woolly versus on twitch and youtube all right podcast over bye that's a dunny all right so
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