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Episode Date: January 30, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, hey guys, what's up, hey, hey, so, hello faithful listeners, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait what? Nothing. Oh, just doing the- But that sounded like bad whoa. Hey, whoa, whoa, is the same one that you do, hey, whoa, whoa, when like we start recording a fisticuffs and there's no sound. Oh, no, no, no, I'm just doing a Bob, you remember Bob, our friend's dad, and he would
Starting point is 00:00:41 just be like, hey, oh, hey kids, oh, and we do- I never met him. We do those impressions all the time, that's where I came from. I know, it still sounded- I never met that person. Oh, well, I guess you started doing it by picking it up when we started doing it. That is what that happened. We totally started doing it because that was the way our friends dad talked, and he'd
Starting point is 00:00:57 be like, hey, whoa, kids, hey, whoa, what's going on? But it sounded like how you would do- like you know our de facto, if someone reaches for someone else's computer to look at bus schedules. No, that's how you would do it where you would go, hey. Hey, we're gonna get you anything, would you, do you? You play it off a bit more cool. I don't have the tab explosion open right now, and you can see the titles on those tabs, I don't want you to see those tabs, all right?
Starting point is 00:01:23 It was, it was no, like the friend I was talking about, it was like, he was like, do not even be within- I was there, man. Yeah, do not round this corner to be within eye shot of my monitor. He had a PC in his living room, and the PC faced the corner, like the screen faced the corner, and Woolly goes over, I just want to check my bus schedules, man. And I remember specifically, and he's like, you can't, no, it's too much. I thought it was a yelling leap. And you can't, you can't, and I were, like, what you said next is the best part, and I
Starting point is 00:02:02 can't believe you forgot it, is he went, not even the desktop, and he goes, no, not even the desktop. That's, because I combine those two stories where I remember that part, but I remember Woolly walking towards it, and just somewhere along the line, I thought there was a leap to shut the lid of the laptop, or the desktop, whatever it was, and a scream, no! No, no, no, but, but the desktop, that's another level, you know? Because I remember talking to that person a week earlier, and he was asking me advice on, like, how many, how much was the best value for external storage, because he needed
Starting point is 00:02:48 eight terabytes of external storage. Needed it. And I'm like, well, why? He's like, well, all of my hard drives are full. I'm like, full of what? And he's like, they're full. And I'm like, do you really need to keep 16 terabytes? They're full of my work.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And the answer that came back damaged me, which was, I need to keep everything I've ever seen, which means, and then was followed by, you've watched eight terabytes? This was before HD. I'm not going to make any illusions that there's some hard drives I wish I still had, but due to one file or two, maybe some AMVs. That's it. Perhaps. Maybe a Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:03:40 No. Maybe a game, maybe like, yeah, that's a bit like there are, we all have, I wish I still had A or B. I fucking love how Fitty sent is like, oh, shit, I took, I took Bitcoin from my last album. I forgot about that. How much money I got? That was crazy. That was nuts.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I guess I did have money after all. I guess I had it after all slash move all my funds into the fucking blockchain and then pull them out. Fitty sent move successfully from blue collar crime to white collar crime. Hey, third game coming our way soon. No, no, no, no, no. He didn't. We talked about it last week.
Starting point is 00:04:26 He said he wants to, but it's got ideas because he's right because right now he wants it to be based on the superhero script. He wants it based on Luke Cage, but he wrote, but he has his own Luke Cage. Yeah, it's not any different, but it's it's it's he's on the run from the cops, but he's a superhero. Um, because the government experiment is the government experiment that's super tough. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, it's just going to be a superhero. No, but he's, but he's someone was angry. They didn't get the cameo in Luke Cage and Method Man did Fitty is no red man. No, no, it's not going to start the bullet hole hoodie trend. The show would be called Bulletproof. Yes, it would. You're like the first game. Well, I mean, then again, or have you called bulletproof blood on the sand has a name,
Starting point is 00:05:18 but I forgot what he said it was because we yeah, like, okay, we went into the whole thing and like he wrote the script and it has a name and then they're they're actually like bringing it to production or something like that. Like it did get picked up by 50 cent. What the fuck was it called? It doesn't matter. It was called Fitty Sense Fun Time Adventure in Newie Herman, Big Land here. It was a tomorrow today.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Oh, God, that's right. Right. It's not great. Tomorrow today, a prisoner gets experimented on to create the perfect human and he's crime fighting superhero, but he's on the run from the cops. And it's good. It's yeah. That's going to be the screenplay.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Why would you continually fight crime while you're on the run from the cops? Wouldn't the easiest crime to fight be to turn yourself in? Yeah. Well, no, because you just mean there's a lot going on because you're a vigilante. You believe in justice, but you don't believe in the man and the system. But it's like the punisher is not on the run from the cops, even though he should be only specific. But he is.
Starting point is 00:06:20 No, but they don't hide out. We have no, but he has like he has like a fucking hideout. Like holes and he has like plates spots around the city that you fucking. The plot synopsis of this just makes it seem like I'm literally trying to move from point A to point B to get away from the cops. But along the way, if I see anybody that needs a crime being solved, I'll take the time out. So it's like, what if Lil' List Hobo was on the run from the cops? Lil' List 50.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Lil' List 50. Yeah. Because you got to be a good guy, but also fuck the police. That's right. So how do you keep it real, but keep it right? I hope Lil' List Hobo never becomes mined for nostalgia. I don't know a world with Lassie or Wishbone or. And also Lil' List Hobo is so like, you gone back and watch it.
Starting point is 00:07:04 It's like painfully Canadian. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's intense. Oh, that's that intro song is the most Canadian thing in the world. It's, it's really rough.
Starting point is 00:07:12 If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's, there's like whole seasons of that shit up on YouTube because nobody gives a shit the CBC is not going to stop you. So yeah, go watch an episode of Lil' List Hobo. The first episode is like him helping a lady take her medication or some shit. Until tomorrow, I just keep moving on until tomorrow, I just keep moving on. And there's also that one, that part of it goes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:38 That's the start. Yeah. And then he's carrying the sniper rifle in his jaw. Yeah. Yeah. And then Aya Brea shoots him and then you should be picked. She picks it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Man. Oh fuck. Starring London the dog. London. Yeah. Oh my God. I think there are multiple ones. Oh, there always have to be.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Because the show started in the 50s when it was black and white. Animal, animal labor laws are like, so if you haven't had 10 dollars. If you remade it, would you have to call it like the Lil' List Homeless Person? No. Or Lil' List Homeless Dog? What do you, what do you do with that? Lil' List Hobo. Two.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Fuck. There was a fucking reboot. No, there wasn't. I think there might have been. Yes, there was. No, there wasn't. Because I never saw it, but I remember. Research live.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So I grew up in the Burbs. Not having it. South of Montreal. And I remember a couple towns over in Leary, which looks just like they fucking, they were shooting a new Lil' List Hobo or Lassie or some shit. No way. Was it Lassie? Was it fucking Lassie?
Starting point is 00:08:43 There's no way they brought that shit back. We would have heard about it. Okay, the 80s is the one we know. Yeah. We would have heard about it. It was Lassie. It was Lassie. I got confused.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Fuck you. No, no, no way. God damn it, the son of a bitch. Oh my god, I'mma get that. The first season of DVD. We would have heard. I want that poster. That's fucking.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Until tomorrow. I'll just keep moving on. Damn straight he does. I shoot them all. Shoot them all. I shoot Lil' List Hobo to page, and she is American, she's never seen it, and she's just like, what the fuck is this Canadian shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Did it soak? He heads on down to the Canadian Tire. She runs by the Depp and Ur, and he barks at the criminal, and the criminal drops the gun, and then the kid kicks the gun away, and then the cops show up. It feels like it's all being filmed in West Ontario, or the Prairies, because everybody's got the fucking thing, like, oh, I hate her. And then when the cops go, hey kid, are you okay, and he's like, yeah, and he's like, who did it?
Starting point is 00:09:42 It was Lil' List Hobo. It was the dog. Where is he? And then the cops look around, and then he's just walking down the street into the sunset. He doesn't need a reward, he doesn't need a treat, he doesn't need a belly rub. So over that series, it went from helping people, because somebody's in trouble, to lassy stuff, and I remember there were ones like, no, murders were solved. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Wow, really? I know too specifically where there's a shitty roller coaster, and a guy's like, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, that's it, that's the problem, there's just a shitty roller coaster that might hurt people, and Hobo just barks until the problem is solved. And then the guy that's going, nyeh, nyeh, is just getting carried away by the cops. That's all I remember. Okay, here we go, episode one. Hobo arrives in a small country town, hit by a forest fire, where he rescues animals
Starting point is 00:10:33 from the blaze, and befriends the forest ranger. Storekeeper selling animal traps, and poison to ward off the now homeless animals that's coming near the town. There you go. A child eats poison meat, left outside the store, and Fender Storm prevents Rae from bringing the local doctor in by plane. Hobo's parachuted into the town, with the antidote needed to save the child's life. It's the virtuous mission.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh, oh, Hobo was the first dog to do a halo jump. Dude, the one that I pulled up and saw was called Silent Witness, it's right there. It's when Hobo, when Hobo witnesses a hit and run, he marshals evidence against the driver and forces him to hit him. So you know what that actually entails? He tied him up, and then Hobo was barking at him. No, so what it is, is that Hobo sees it and follows the guy, assumingly by his license plate to his house, and the guy looks out his window and sees, oh, that's that dog from
Starting point is 00:11:28 the accident, and Hobo just follows him around all day and barks at him, follows, and he looks, and he's like, and it's like a fucking Lady Macbeth thing, but with the dog, he's like, shut up, shut up. He eventually just turns himself in because he can't handle it. Oh, Hobo, you fucking boss. I searched for a bomb. Search for a bomb. I know one that was a bomb.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Well, one of them is like, he rescues a locker. He rescues a politician's, oh yeah, Hobo finds an undetonated World War II bomb. That's my bomb, I guess. That is literally the last episode of season six. That's in 85. That is the final episode of the show. It doesn't say whether the bomb detonated. Last season episode 14, a mime and a deaf boy help Hobo prevent a robbery.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, they do. A family's trapped on a deserted island, cold war tensions in the early stages of the digital age. And Hobo's there. How does he get to a deserted island? Does Hobo invent the internet? Yes. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Where did the list, Hobo? Where did this go in season six? Oh, it's super weird. Wow. That helps a man adjust to life in a wheelchair. Hobo aids a financially troubled church. Look how... Do you see how these synopsis changed from early on?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Right? There's like, here's the detail. With the help of his new friend, he goes, whatever, you know what I mean? It's a full paragraph here, and then by the end, it's a single sentence. Hobo, oh, oh, oh, control F for gun. Control F for gun. Oh.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Okay. No. It could be in the episode. It's just not in the description. What happened in the last episode? He probably... He... There was...
Starting point is 00:13:16 Include... There was probably... We're going down this whole place. Yeah, there was probably a goddamn undetonated bomb in like a children's playground or some shit. And Hobo looked at a World War II bomb and went, oh no, what if the kids blow themselves up with a bomb? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Here we go. Here we go. Okay. I am DB. I am a senile veteran who is a custodian of an unexploded bomb. He's able to bring it to the attention of a nearby military base, but the stakes are raised when it's discovered that it's near an abandoned munitions dump. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Oh, so the bomb would be easily disposed of, but then there's explosives nearby. Go to the one with the Cold War tensions and that the Cold War will yet be heating up because of littlest total. I forgot that would have aired in 85, right? Yes. Yeah, that's super real. That's super real. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah. We don't know what happened. We can't go down this too much. We should have a Hobo cast, though. That's good. I mean, I hear you, but I need to know. I need to know what happened. We're watching it now.
Starting point is 00:14:22 The final episode of the littlest Hobo. He finds the bomb and then it's season 18 and the bomb is right there. It's in a fucking field. And then there's a munitions dump nearby. Oh, he's biting him. Oh, no. And someone's all bloodied up. What happens?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Oh, no, they thought it was going to explode. That's like Sergeant Slaughterer. It looks like fucking astronaut. The Canadian mustache. She's not going on there. Like half the shots are all this B footage always of the dog just licking people's faces and whatnot. Okay, but.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Oh, there was a Mountianette last one and they're hanging out in a classroom? Yeah. Classroom. It looks like it looks like a Mountie base. Oh, wait, hold on. No, there was a thing. So like they're at the military base, they moved it out into the field so that they could blow it up.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And he's like, no, get down, idiot. Oh, Hobo saved him. Hobo knew that the bomb would explode and in the end, the dogs just sitting there waiting for his trainer to say, do the next thing, idiot. He saved the world. Well, he saved that guy at least. He saved Canada. So I really want to see like the DVD, see if there's any bloopers, because there's got
Starting point is 00:15:40 to be several instances where the dog is just humping the fuck out of people. Oh, yeah. Like there's this little boy that's like, no, Hobo. Hobo, I'm blind. How do we get to the blind factory? Oh, like this? Oh, that was wrong. That's where all the blind people go to work.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That's where they. Yeah. It's next to the hunger factor. If you're American and you, which are many of you or European and you have no idea what we're talking about, this is a fun fucking old show. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, no. You're there for a ride.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm like, I felt no need to stop this and correct people and going, oh, you don't know what this is. Fuck you. You're going to learn about the little Hobo today. Well, I was a little kid. This was one of my favorite shows on TV because it was so good, like fun. But now as an adult, it's fucking hilarious. It's, oh man.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I'd always be depressed when I came on as a kid because anytime I'd watch it, it would always be kind of like a sad story. And since it usually played in the like afternoons on Saturdays, like my cartoon time, like my TV time was done. I usually get pulled away to do chores or whatever. So never see a lot of endings. So I would just assume that most characters died. I always got kind of sad at the end of every episode because it's always like, hey little
Starting point is 00:16:53 boy, where's your dog? He's like, I don't know. And then it always cuts to that fucking credits Hobo wandering off. Because the Hobo says to the kids, I'm not surprised to be one. Yeah, basically. And like, no, that's the problem is he saves the day and then he wanders off and then nobody wanders off. Nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:17:13 He wanders off down the forest next to the 401 across the Decari Expressway. Honestly, he's just going between Montreal and Toronto and all those little shitty towns. The Hobo would have no, like you'd get here and be like, oh wait, this is closed, oh wait, this is being constructed on, oh wait, I can't go there, oh shit, I'm stuck here. And of course you get shit, like ads for a hotel at the end of the fucking thing. Don't remember that. The Romano Renaissance. Because they shot there for that episode probably, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Or that's where the crews stay. What other local dealerships are we going to fucking hook up with today? Exactly. Like, super duper. Come down to the moose petting farm at Old Joe's. That's where Hobo saved the day for this episode. Oh, oh, oh. And then you see it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Hobo helps the priests with their drinking problem and at the end it's like, buy Oka Cheese. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Buy Quattie Cook Ice Cream. Oh, fuck. Yeah, man. All right. Oh, this podcast is for no one so far. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I don't care. Well, it will be educating to some, then. Oh, boy. Oh, man. All right. So besides the littlest Hobo reboot 2018, what you got? I don't want the same type of dog. Don't say that out loud.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Only, but it has to be the exact same type of dog. It has to be a German Shepherd. And it has to be the exact quality of film. Yeah, it's gotta be shit. And music. Like film stock? Yeah. Old TV broadcast film stock.
Starting point is 00:18:49 100%. Or alternatively just take a bunch of old episodes of littlest Hobo and cut them in such a way to make new ones. There's a shit ton of those just shot with the dog. Actually, never mind. I'm sure probably the last season was made like that. Yeah. There's always those moments like London past and we have five more episodes to shoot.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Get London Sun. No, you get all the extra footage of him just like dicking around and pissing on crew. Yeah. And then use that to make a new episode. Littlest Hobo goes senile. Alternatively, you could use some form of shoddy puppet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm surprised they didn't end on some sort of like he goes back and then you find like
Starting point is 00:19:31 there's a little litter following him. You know, it's a little pup sir. Some sort of like. Well, no. Psyres littler Hobo is all across. How did that message would be like dark for kids because it would be like in the episode Hobo knocks up a bitch and then has the pups and then he's like, I have to go fight crimes. Bye.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Rapples away. Just keep moving on. Who knows? But you have a family, Hobo. I just keep moving on. Is this the new form of Canadian? Like I'm going to go out for a pack of smokes. It's like I have to go out to wander the land solving crimes and various troubles.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Is that what dad's up to? Is that what your mom told you? Crimes until a certain point. They're usually mysteries or conundrums. Sure. Then they might turn into crimes later. It's just that, you know, and they're like, again, undetonated bombs. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But it's not a crime. No, no, it's just a senile idiots, you know, but it's irresponsible. But you just want the stakes to increase over the seasons. You want to up the ante. It's like just just littlest Hobo brings down the Berlin Wall. There's Hobo at Parliament barking down at the, you know, the opposition. Squares are trying to stop weed from getting legalized. Luckily, littlest Hobo is there to deliver the reefer to all the kids.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. And shoot the opponents. Just like this German shepherd dropping off like weed in front of children. Little baggies. Little baggies. Yeah. Absolutely. Wagonist tail, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Like a plate of cookies. Oh. Okay. Okay. We're going to start our weeks now. Yeah. All right. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:21:16 There was no, there's never any like rival Doberman or anything. No, no, no. Was there a Virgil? No, I don't think so. I cannot even remember another animal other than like birds. No, no. And when the episode was he went by, I saw like there was a, there was another, there was another German shepherd that was mentioned.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But like just for that, usually other animals, as you know, he'll like do his part and save him from trouble and like that first episode and stuff. But yeah, like there's no buddy second dog. Because even if there was like, oh, it's always like the crossover temporary team up or the end of the episode warrior king has to go back to his home planet. Okay. Okay. So, so Michael Vick puts somebody down and we get wishbone, Lassie and hobo in the ring.
Starting point is 00:21:59 What happened? Well, Lassie, Lassie does more physical things. Lassie pushes people, but I don't think I've ever seen Lassie bite anyone. Yeah. That being said, wishbone. Wishbone can jump. What about Clifford? Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:12 He's not real. Do you remember? Do you remember when? The wishbone is. He is. Hold on. He's a real dog. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Remember when wishbone starred in the Odyssey? I remember. No, I don't. But I remember him from Frasier. Okay. So no, that's a different dog. That's a different dog? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Are you sure? Are you fucking for real? Frasier's dog wishbone from the TV series wishbone was also the exact same dog that hung out with Frasier's dad. That's the same type. It's the same kind of dog. I thought it was a famous dog. No, man.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That's too famous. The dog can have two roles. No, wishbone, the dog had a children's TV show with this. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Okay. Okay. So you have, you have Lassie. You have wishbone. You have. What a mess. It's all in the ring. So what about the dogs from movies like canine and all that?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Well, I'm just going with the TV shows right now. Here's the deal. You know? When wishbone was, when wishbone was in the Odyssey, he was able to recreate Odysseus' fucking feet of shooting an arrow through 13 ax heads. Okay. And they had that little shot of the little tiny dog pulling the bow back with like the puppet shit.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So wishbone. So that means wishbone can use weapons? Yeah, wishbone. Wishbone is actually the smallest and weakest, but he can use weapons. And more importantly, he can talk. Yeah. Wishbone has the voice of a human being. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It wouldn't result in much in a battle. No, but maybe. Yeah, but it would freak Vic out. He could probably like command and bark, shout things at them and then say things in English then sound human and freak them out. He could make it a confusing reaction. All right. I got one that, well, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:49 The question is, is, do we want to landslide this by adding Clifford? I said real. Real life. Yeah. These real life dogs that lived. Live action. Okay. Live action dogs.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm keeping it live. We need to have a thorough line here. We need to have a rule to follow. So no Scooby-Doo's and armadooks. Because fucking, why would you go to play? There was a real, like, great games of real dogs. If you want to add to the list, you'd probably add Beethoven or fucking Air Bud, right? Oh, Air Bud would crush that shit.
Starting point is 00:24:23 But only no Russell Mania would win. But that's the problem is now we're going into the movies. I was trying to keep it with the long time multi-storied dogs that have a past and a track record. Not these one, two movie bullshit fucking dogs. What about Kujo? Oh, that's a movie. It's the world's a book even first. Yeah, but he's saying just TV shows.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah. Long lasting TV shows. I think Kujo would win. Beethoven did have a TV show, technically. I think Kujo's got a good shot. He did some winning in his book. Yeah. Rintintin is a canine cop.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Rintintin would rip some motherfuckers apart. Probably had the size advantage of that set. Keep it going in the bathroom. Okay, well. Keep it going. I'm just saying. I feel like you were getting warmed up. I feel like he would totally take it.
Starting point is 00:25:11 What kind of dog was Kujo? Kujo's a Saint Bernard rabies. Okay. Really? Oh, you're not familiar with Kujo? I'm not familiar with Kujo. So Kujo is a Stephen King novel and much like Gerald's game, it is an extremely small scope and it is a mom and her kid
Starting point is 00:25:29 get trapped in a car by a Saint Bernard with rabies that attacks people. Oh, okay. Okay, that's a bad one. Fuck, I need Matt to be here because there's now you can start getting into a couple of different places, right? Because, you know, you're a giant fucking bodybuilder,
Starting point is 00:25:52 beef dog. Yeah, those weird mutants. The ridiculous like something's wrong with the glands in your body and you're producing. I wish I had that malfunction and was just a human muscle. But it's like to the point of being like not functional. Like those dogs, they look like they live like sad lives almost. You know, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Crossover battles, dog war. We need a full roster here, I'd say. There are many, many good and bad dogs. Live action underdog. Remember that? That's a recent thing. Underdog just had a movie. He came back underdog.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah, totally bounced off my brain right now. He's a superhero underdog. It's got the fucking you. I bet you, you know the cartoon version or you have at least seen him. And underdog was, to me at least it was that song they sang on scrubs that one time. But no. Can we get the fucking wolf from Gerald's game in here if we can get
Starting point is 00:27:00 Kujo in there? You familiar with that one? The, hold on a second. Underdog movie. That could be anything. Underdog. I don't know who that is. That's the new live action dog.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And then there was, he was based on the cartoon because there was the cartoon underdog that was this guy. I don't know what that is. I remember the cartoon, Wonder Dog. I do not remember the movie Wonder Dog. Underdog. Whatever. He's a wonder dog.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yeah, he is. Underdog. Okay, okay. Matt, you know who I was waiting for you to come back because I think you will agree with me. Also, he's wearing a My Hero Academia uniform, basically. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But that's besides the point. Don't worry about that. I think you will agree with me in the dog that absolutely crushes the competition. The Shao Kahn of this tournament is the dog from Don't Breathe. Yeah. He doesn't get a lot of screen time. But when he does.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That dog gets kind of, you think, defeated, but not. You remember the shot? There's the shot. I didn't watch Don't Breathe, but I just thought of another really good one. That's a pimp-ass beast dog. I think Kujo would beat that dog, though. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Okay. I don't know Kujo. I have the real winner of this tournament from another Canadian TV series that is live action. And that is Deepen Baker, the deaf wolf dog from Deuce South. Named after Prime Minister. Yeah. Didn't he, he hung out with Dean Kain, right?
Starting point is 00:28:41 No. No. Deuce South. Deuce South with the Mountie. Dean Kain? No. No. Paul Gross.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Paul Gross. Damn. I thought that was Dean Kain for years. No. They look nothing alike. Wow. I thought the Deuce South Mountie TV show was Dean Kain in it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:01 No, that was Adventures of Lewis and Clark. Yeah, I know, but I thought his, okay. All right. Yes. Deuce South Mountie show. Fuck this underdog. No, you don't understand. The dog is deaf.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Well, how does he learn commands? Oh, I taught him to read lips. You did what, Frazier? You taught your wolf dog to read fucking lips? That's pretty, that's pretty badass. And then he throws them the gun. It's a very Mountie thing. Do you remember the sandlot?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. There was a dog in that dog. The other side of the fence, there was this beast of a terrifying dog. That was always. It would shake the screen when it barked. It was always portrayed from the kid's perspective. So it was like 100 feet tall. The dog was scared.
Starting point is 00:29:41 It was a monster. It was like an elephant dog. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like the version of the dog, not from reality, but from the child's mind. Yeah. Is probably also at the top of that list, I'd say. Can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 All right. All right. So let's turn them in a set. Let's stop it. All right. Who wants to go first? I played some games that were not Monster Hunter and I barely played DBZ fighters. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So I'll get some some stuff out of the way. I did play DBZ fighters. Love DBZ fighters started the story mode was like, man, this is going to be a long ass story mode. So I stopped playing it. Is it? It's like 12 hours. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Well, okay. The variation is is is huge. Some people are saying there's a board game. Some people say four. Some people say eight. Right. Some people say more. But it seems as if you can try to be line it and get it in four.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. But if you want to do all the extra stuff, you it lasts longer and it does get monotonous. Because you're fighting a lot of clones. A lot of clones. But look at the lot of go. You're fighting the cast for, you know, that much time, but also there's not that much story. Cut scenes are kind of a foreign few in between.
Starting point is 00:30:51 But no, enjoying that. I don't know why this happens. I bought, I pre-bought the game. I pre-purchased it. That's correct. So I got Super Saiyan blue and all that blue goku blue Vegeta. When I log in as me, who bought it, it says, you are not allowed to play online. And I'm like, huh, you do not have permissions, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Who do you want to log in? And it said, oh, okay, I'll log into Leanna's account. Is this on Xbox? Yeah. And then I'm like, all right, you're good to go. You have fun. Oh, that's it. That is.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And that's not anything to do with my account on Xbox Live, I go into other games and they play fine. I go to Killer Ink. That sounds like that. No, but that permissions is going into your compliance things. Permissions is something associated with your account. You need to go to your, like. Which I did.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Your account settings. I have everything set to the right thing. There should be no problem. So right now, I've gotten zero online matches. Beta was fine? No, if beta was not fine, beta, the same thing, all I have to do is log into somebody else once I've started the game and then I can play online, but it's fucking bizarre and I don't know why, but whatever, I'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I played The Impatient. I beat The Impatient. What is The Impatient? It's the. The game by the, um, the until dawn guys that we were looking, well, I was looking forward to heavily because it sounded like it was going to be a game focused on the hospital. And so you get to do lots more scenes of the, uh, It was supposed to come out in November.
Starting point is 00:32:19 A therapy. And I was like, oh shit, it's going to get fucking destroyed in November. Well. But then it, they got, they delayed it to like last week and I'm like, cool, okay, they believe in it. And then you let me down. You let me down. It's one of the most disappointing things I've played in a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Did you ever get to hit an agenda? Uh, no. Guess what? What? That game sucks. Okay. This doesn't suck. Oh, I heard otherwise.
Starting point is 00:32:42 This doesn't suck at all. But I've played better horror VR games and I've certainly played better non like VR games. But this is their second VR game. Uh, yeah. If there's second one, they did Russia blood. I would much prefer Russia blood. Are you streaming it? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Were you streaming? No, I was just playing for fun. Okay. Um, and what Willie was like also like, yeah, I believe you there it, the trailers for this game didn't put stuff in it that weren't in the game. But when I looked at the trailers, I thought it was you have the free reign of being in a hospital and you have to go in for therapy sessions and was kind of that silent Hill Shattered Memories type thing where the game is constantly reading what you're saying plus
Starting point is 00:33:25 the interactions that until dawn is has cause like people can die. People cannot die based on the choices you make. Right. You look at until dawn and you go, okay, between chapters, we've got these cool in between sessions with the therapist, right? And of course I love that stuff from Shattered Memories. So like I look at that and I go, these are really strong parts of the game. And then the next game is set in a hospital.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Oh, cool. 60 years before until dawn, you're dealing with the original miners that turned into the Wendigos. Oh, that's cool. That is a cool setup. So my brain says, oh, you're making the black flag to your AC three. Yeah. You know, you're taking the part that was the really good part and then you're making it
Starting point is 00:34:01 all about that. So I beat it in two hours. Yeah. You can walk and pick up one thing that it has like a yellow halo on it. And that's the game. You then follow things. You never have to fight anything. You don't have to interact with there's ever any danger.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Another character just jumps in the way. It is the most guided, most basic. And this is like a second, maybe even technically third generation VR game, you can say. I didn't get to ask you, but like this, you're following people around and kind of just walking and talking a lot. But like, how's the actual writing and plot? It's fine. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It's not particularly memorable. Some of the performances are a little wonky. You can choose to be a girl or a guy. It slightly affects the story. I don't know. But after two hours, I talked to a character and our group slowly walked from point A to point B credits. And I was just like, that's fucking it.
Starting point is 00:35:04 That was it. And I just like, I liked Russian blood because it was a good rail shooter. There's always something to do. There's always something to shoot. And it had actual like when the little Carney guy talks to you before every stage. I'm like, yeah, that's it. You have one therapy session at the start. And all that does is is construct your character.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Like what do you see? Who are you? What's your name? It feels really disappointing. And that's it. You've never had a doctor until the end of the game and you never had these therapy sessions at all. I think like shooting mechanics and the fact that Russian blood was like designed to be
Starting point is 00:35:39 an arcade game means like it's a harder comparison because it's no, it is a completely different thing. I just mean that in this, you're never doing anything. I said to you, I estimated 30 percent of your time is walking in complete silence because characters are not interacting, not talking. There's nothing to look at. You walk. That's all you fucking do.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And it's not like even a walking simulator. I was going to ask, is it just a walking simulator or the story? Your character can say things, like pick text out, but your character has no voice. A good walking simulator has dialogue or some new visual information constantly, just all the time. And I guess do you find pieces of the story in different locations and like complete? So what you find is like, you find little like items and you pick it up and it triggers a memory and it triggers from something in the past.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And it's supposed to be interesting, but it's not because I'm like, oh, that's what it is. Okay. I don't care. It tells you nothing about the miners. It tells you nothing about the sanitarium in itself. It's little bits of your past that weren't even interesting because you're just a nobody character.
Starting point is 00:36:39 You're not important to the story really. So I guess it sounds like then like if those parts were well done or well written, it would have been okay because it's like the content is still really good. But like because those parts were not engaging to you, the fact that there was nothing else to do. Yeah, but there's only for the majority of the game and say 60% of the game, there's only two characters really. There's you and your cellmate.
Starting point is 00:37:05 But until dawn, the original, that game was like, what, 10 hours and you had like eight main characters that were always rotating around doing things and you're just this one. And it's so like limited. And I'm like, that's not even like a VR game can be bigger and more interesting than this. I've played them. This is not that. It's just like, and that's the sad thing. Everyone's like, Oh, I hope Bravo tango is better.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. So really generic. The fact that Bravo like Bravo team, if you told me that one was like was forgettable. I would have been like, Oh, well, I guess I, but I was, I aim was it. I just forgot it. Bravo team was. I don't understand. Well, anyway, that's, that's the first and I was like, I'm sure the interesting thing
Starting point is 00:37:48 about this is just the aiming down the sights feeling, right? The same thing that makes far point interesting where you're like, Oh, I've never done this before. That must be an interesting novelty at first, but that game being otherwise forgettable and generic is expected because it's called Bravo team. But like, yeah, that's a disappointing thing. It honestly feels like, yeah, I feel like until dawn is the best of that type. I don't know why they're not making like an, maybe they are, but I don't know why they're
Starting point is 00:38:11 not making an actual full single. And aren't they? I've never heard it announced. And the thing that you might be thinking of this, the thing that the thing that gets me is that like, so when they were there, they should for hidden agenda and a little bit with this, like they tried to do like the walking dead style, like shorter thing, especially hidden agenda, but the, the changes they made to their formula from those games to make until dawn so good, yeah, need a longer game.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah. Until dawn works really, really well because it was kind of way longer than those other ones. And there's opportunities and time for twists and turns. Also, if there's a particular character or side of the story that you didn't like in until dawn, switching over to the next one would be fine. There's no option. You're stuck with one.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Which means you're committing to the current narrative, which is, which is more affordable to make as a smaller game, but it means it means you have to really commit to what you've got as far as your plot and in terms of scares, there was maybe twice where I was like, Oh, that was good. You got me. And there was one that was really good. And I was like, okay, that one was pretty good. And then after that, I was just kind of like, Oh, there's a, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Damn. Anyway, let's I also played Severed, the Switch version and Severed is something that Liam was always talking about. I'm like, yeah, yeah, Vita. Okay, sure. I don't know where mine is. Dude, I mean, I can't play it. Like I love those guys.
Starting point is 00:39:32 They made a good ass game. Drinkbox had a good, you know, did a fucking good job with guacamole, but then the next game was on Vita and you're like, okay, and then I was like, it's on mobile and you're like, okay. Wow. Well, Severed is incredible. I got sucked into a dungeon crawler and you just slash slash slash, but it's still just really well made.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's very quick. You know, it's a dungeon crawler. It's like your character just zooms around. You have a really nice map. It's just really, really fun art is amazing. So there's that crawl finally played a bit of crawl. Yes. And now I understand crawl and I'm like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You know what crawl is? Yes, I do. I was the one I was saying we need to fucking yeah, but it's amazing in single player to Oh, that the AI is running around as the competing ghost monsters as you are, but there's an AI running around as the hero. So you and AI are competing to kill another AI so then you can fight against more like they somehow figured out a way to make it work great in both obviously multiplayer would be better, but the single pair was still like, this is really good, good, good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I played a lot of Resident Evil revelations one on one on the switch because I never finished it and never even got close on the 3DS. So that would be the tits. Yeah. Is this is this just a port of the yeah, it's a port. And that's the one. Remember, we did a podcast story about how this is the only version that has weird mini games in it that are eight bit.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yes. So yeah, I booted it up like going, OK, I'm going to play a bit more. I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm just shooting zombies that are coming down the waves from the screen and it's just a really good port. And I got past the part I stopped. I stopped at the first boss, which is a big lumbering guy and there's exploding canisters to hit and he just takes so much damage.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I got tired of it and I just quit there on the 3DS. And now I I blew past like a little bit farther than that. And then I kind of fell off as well. So I don't care for the mission structure in that game. It's a little. Yeah, I do. I remember you guys like Jill's ridiculously gigantic ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Also, Parker's eye. It's ridiculous. Parker Luciano standing on the outside in the bleachers. I it sounded to me like you guys are all having a good time with the ResiRove series. No, two we were. Two is because two was fucking great. Two is more like Walking Dead, where you have three solid hours of one chunk. But Revelations one is like 15 minutes of little baby mission.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Because it was designed for handheld, which is fine. But also, so I really took to that game really strongly. But the longer you go, the more that portable ops. Yeah, the more that that like it's a really good game. But just that format doesn't do it for me with that. Because when you're presented with a giant ship to go through, you like want to explore it because when it brings you out of that scenario, you kind of forget things in that ship when it brings you back to it.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You're like, oh, right, the fucking and you have a map, but like it's still a little, you know, by the way, Willie, before we move off that, if you want a good co-op game, like Resident Evil, Revelations two is one of the best co-op games ever. Oh, it is a stunner. I believe it. It's so good. I yeah, I mean, there's other resies that I wanted to the point where I would say, don't play that game by yourself.
Starting point is 00:42:51 OK, it is such a blast in co-op. Cool. And I was telling you, Willie, about a game yesterday. I still want to play as Jake. Yeah, you do, but then you'll play and then you'll be like, yeah, I hear you. I was telling you, Willie, about Celeste yesterday, which is the new hot Twitch platformer. Yes. Made by the creator, Jumper,
Starting point is 00:43:11 which was the inspiration for Super Meat Boy. Climb them out. Celeste is now the third highest rated switch game of all time. And that's below Mario Odyssey and and Breath of the Wild, obviously. It's really good. It's a very simple game, but the music and like the atmosphere and like the graphics and like the the great level design like really make it. It's getting harder and harder to stand out as a throwback 8-bit or not even 8-bit.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It's not 8-bit, but throwback pixel art platform. Because there's so much because there's so many, you know. So the fact that it does stand out that that much. Yeah. And I was I was like, OK, what's the what's the deal? And I see I see like, I think it was Game Informer. Someone said like, this is our first perfect 10 of 2018, like or whatever. I mean, perfect game scores. I always kind of find a little weird because I'm never like
Starting point is 00:44:03 because the game is never perfect. Never is it can never be perfect. But I mean, this is still really good. So I bought that on all three things like I bought it on Switch first and then I was on Steam and I was like, oh, it's on sale and Steam right now or whatever. And I was like, I'll get it here. And I'm like, so I just bought it three times.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I really want to blast the rest of this. I watched the Godzilla anime on Netflix. Godzilla Planet of the Monsters is really big. Sorry, I'm really I'm just can a game never be perfect? Or is it always is a time lock? It depends on what your criteria is, I suppose. I guess a game. OK, maybe it has to hit you emotionally. I would. But it has to hit you at the right time and the right place.
Starting point is 00:44:41 OK, so there can be a temporary perfection. No, there are. OK, I would actually because I have a criteria. I think that there it is possible to be a perfect game. But like it's not enough for it to be genre defining. It has to be just the most mind blowing thing ever. So like Ocarina of Time is astonishing. That's not a perfect game. It's just one of the greatest games ever. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I would say like Shadow of the Colossus might be a perfect game. Yeah, you don't need to add or take away from it. Right. But there but there's but there's but there's the fact that there are technical foibles to me. A perfect game is a game in which at no point during the entire time I played it and even a little afterwards, I went, oh, I wish this was like like never. So to me, right, Guardian is not that. No, it's not. But but but do you look at a technical foible
Starting point is 00:45:34 and go like, well, that means it's not perfect, right? Does that detract from your score in that way with with Shadow? No. OK, but other games. So then you see that it depends on what's going on, right? Clearly like some of my favorite movies of all time. I'm like, I wish that part in Aliens was different or I wish that part. And like, you know, Girl of the Dragon Tattoo. I wish that was like different.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So because I fall into the category of like it's not that there's no such thing as it, but it just it's almost impossible. I just find it weird to label it such. You can, you know, to me, I feel and I felt and I think I still do feel that Kirby Superstar Ultra is a perfect game. Yeah, it is. There's so much and it's all incredibly fun. And there's I do nothing but have fun.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I'll believe that. I have a flaw with that. I just I just dislike Kirby. Exactly, is that Kirby is fucking lame. Yeah, which then turns it into a. Well, then this is a whole lot of a thing that's not that great. I mean, Kirby, the person, the character. Yeah, sure. But I mean, that then that means you're getting
Starting point is 00:46:37 droves and droves of something that you're you're not that hot. I actually have a lot of an easier time to make this analogy with a movie because I know what I think is a perfect movie. Robocop is a perfect movie. OK, every single second of the viewing experience of Robocop is the best. Yeah, I I I don't think I mean, I can see how if you don't like Kirby as a character, then you're going to have a problem with that. But ultimately, if you fucking you don't have to love Kirby.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I'm just thinking I like him, though. If you like Kirby, you're going to have a blast. And if you love Kirby, it's a perfect game. Yeah, OK. Yeah, it doesn't stop. Speaking of not perfect, this Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually pretty, pretty good. It's all 3D anime, but it's good 3D.
Starting point is 00:47:29 It's not like Berserk. It's not like some of the other things, even Knights of Sandonia. Is it like a little rougher than than this? I find it's a very interesting story where they're like, oh, it's been 20 years since we vacated the planet and our big ship because Godzilla just dominated the planet. All right, well, we've been drifting around for 20 years. Oh, due to space, actually 20,000 years have passed on Earth.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Due to space. All right. So now we're going to hyperjump back to see what's up. Godzilla must be dead. Oh, no, not at all. And that's the setup. It's still a good setup and there's good action. The dub is actually pretty decent. I don't mind the dub.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I watch it dubbed and subbed. I want to anyway. Just after just after the movie kind of goes, all right, we beat him. The movie is like, maybe not. Oh, shit. Action scene credits in mid action. Are you serious? So they because they want to like the Berserk movies where this is meant to be a trilogy.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But on Netflix, it says Episode One. Yes. And they were very confused. And they're because they're looking over at Netflix going, huh? Yeah, just holding the hand out. Devil man is episode. Remember that? Remember the lady just putting the hand out and like, hey, we heard. We heard you just re-upped on the Castlevania.
Starting point is 00:48:50 You guys like anime, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they knew exactly what they were doing the same way where like, just as it really gets like, like, like Godzilla breathes in and starts glowing blue. And he goes, oh, Chris, you're not wrong. Actually, that's not for all. It's actually that.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Exactly. Oh, my God. But still, it was it was a decent thing. And they have a Mechagodzilla design. Like they showed in a poster somewhere, but he doesn't get used. So that's going to be the second movie. I'm sure it was pretty good. But I'm like, just I really wish this was a series. And it was cut up or like they had all three movies available or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Because it's just like I barely saw anything. I think blue balls at the end of a film is maybe a bit too much. Right. Like the end of a comic, the end of a manga, the end of a TV show, even the end of a season, like, oh, I'm going to get the resolution of this in three to five months with a film. Oh, man, that could that could be forever. Yeah. No, that's that's a shitty move. Also, they don't make it.
Starting point is 00:49:51 It could be forever. So yeah. So or like, or at the very least, you have to have some resolution and let your plot, let your continuing plot point be implied. You know, the after credit shot, for example. It's a little hacky, but you can do that pan over. Lord of the Rings had to do it. Pan over and there's a one egg left. You didn't get them all, you know, like they didn't.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah. Um, but yeah, aside from that, I also went to SoCal and stuff, had a great time there. Big ups to Gummy, who made a bunch of chocolate, peanut butter cookies that were amazing, big ups to everyone that that just showed up. And it was a really good time. Did you guys will either time or you're in Japan? Did Chidori chicken show up at all? Chidori chicken. Not sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:44 J. I. D. O. R. I. Not Chidori chicken. I'm like, I love how you perked up. I can't help it. I know. We went to a place called Nobu, which is apparently really exclusive in stuff and whatever. Yeah, that's a big deal. We had to wait like an hour and 30 minutes to be seated.
Starting point is 00:51:03 But like we did it and we're like, OK, fuck. Let's let's fucking eat. And I see Chidori chicken. I'm like, what is this? And I look up on my phone. I'm like, it's like it is chicken that has never been frozen. It's killed basically on site. It is the most flavorful, best chicken you will ever eat in the Wikipedia or
Starting point is 00:51:20 whatever it was. I'm like, I'll order that. And we had like, you know, like a little appetizer and stuff. And this chicken comes in this little cutlets, like five little slices. I'm like, fuck is and I and I my fork, my pupils dilated. I dropped my my my fork and I went, I've never eaten chicken until right now. OK, I don't know exactly what they did. This is actually what chicken. It's super chicken.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah, it was the most flavorful, flavorful thing. Had a little bit of lobster. Like you walk around and pick the one you want them to kill. I think so. Like this is Reginald. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. He grew up and it was just like amazing. That's all I could say about it, but and spent like a few days in Malibu.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And that was I was actually supposed to come. I thought I was going to supposed to come back sooner on Monday. But then I was like, hey, surprise. I actually booked it to be like one more day later because we're going to go on a safari wine tour where you look at some of you look at animals because there's this crazy old man that owns a thousand acres and has a bunch of animals. And he's like, taste my wine on this truck. So during two designated spots, they're like, have all this white.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Right. Sure. Now we're going to drive you to the top of the mountain. Now we have this guardrail because obviously that sounds like a nefarious setup. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Just put it on the side of the mountain because sometimes people are like they're lightweight and then you're like, OK, now now look at these llamas now. And you're like, OK, yeah, cool. And you're kind of like a little hazy and you're like, OK.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Now we're going to drive you to the land of abandoned RVs. And now I'm like, OK, wait a minute. What? Where? Where? What? With the bet? What? And they drive you to a land of abandoned old fifties RVs where I think it's their collection and inside they dress them up and they made them to be decade accurate.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Dude, I thought it was campers that die. Yeah, I thought you were going to say that this was a fucking like this used to be a trailer park and or a camping spot. And then one day the troubles happened. Yeah, the nuclear test went wrong. It looked like it. And it was like a fallout scene. This is the remains.
Starting point is 00:53:35 But no, it's just a cute little area and some wine and some. Honestly, man, that whole setup sounds like a good way for you to get like like a covert plan to get people drunk, robbed, murdered and fed to animals. Oh, yeah. But fortunately, like, Oregon's harvested. Trip Advisor always lets you know that that's not going to happen. Many, many trip people have given no reviews because they seem to disappear. I guess they liked it so much.
Starting point is 00:54:03 So, yeah, that was really fun. And yeah, that's that's that's it. I also realized like if I ever do want a son, I now know the appeal because during the autograph session I had a little kid, maybe six years old, came up with a Godzilla t-shirt and was holding a Godzilla and said, I really liked your Godzilla toy box video that you did. And I love Godzilla. And I'm like crying.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I'm like, this is what I can do and part my dumb bullshit onto another that's the whole point. Turn a light into your fandom. Yeah. Yeah, like, you're so cute. Yeah. Yeah, it's happening. I look over at Liana. She's just shaking her head like no way. I'm like, OK, so I'm precious because of the thing I'm noticing a pattern. It went away as soon as the kid left, though.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Matt is indifferent to thing. Draw Godzilla on it. Yeah, that likes the thing now. Oh, yeah, it's not so much that. But it was like that was me. Yeah, you know, like I bought that way back in the day. Godzilla toys arrest. Well, that was me like a week ago, too.
Starting point is 00:55:04 But like you're that's me holding the Godzilla toy got a toys arrest. God bless the 160 stores that got closed over the last week. Yeah. So if a kid walked up to me holding an arcade stick, going like, I love fighting games and I'm really I want to get good. I want to get good. And I'd be like, fucking, let's go run sets. So I plug your shit in and I'll sit down and your body is that you're like, yeah, exactly. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Oh, shit, looks like you're 10 years too early, son. Right. I would create the ultimate prodigy by fucking crushing his dreams. That's the thing. So I never see that until that week, but it would. But until I destroyed his soul and crushed his dreams, it would be adorable. Yeah, yeah, there's that. The funny games have a very different culture, which is like strength through like gang jump in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Like somebody said somewhere like the FGC is like a gang. You don't get welcomed in. You get jumped in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just like while you're while the kids getting like losing on the set, just have my boys in the back going, somebody's getting fucked. You you get fucked. Somebody's getting fucked. And you have that one guy who's really nice about it.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I was like, Hey, kids, so here's how you block. Are you not a block? Yo, yo, so that is a thing. And it's notes. You have to shout out from the back of the room, hold down back to block. I saw you. I just like call the guy he was playing with online at one point to ask him if he knew how to block.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Wow. Wow, I didn't see that. That's great. That's great. Yeah. And also thanks to the fan that gave us actual cool Funko Pop. Oh, that's a Funko Pop. It's a bobblehead Funko Pop. That's great. It's almost like because it's a bobblehead and gets away with it because you know what bobbleheads are supposed to be. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:54 No fucking. So yeah, I beat a beat. So Cal again. It's very easy. Somebody's what about NorCal? Is that easy? I haven't been to NorCal yet. Why would you?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Well, because it's where all the fighting games are. Damn, damn. So yeah. So you guys, I assume someone played. Yeah, sure. I'll jump in. I'm going to assume there is a very slight amount of overlap. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So wait, wait, I played about 10 minutes of arcade edition and never booted it up again. I like the gold. Did you do your beautiful Joe Costume Challenge? No, I did not. Damn. I didn't, I didn't. Are we going to be two of that?
Starting point is 00:57:31 That good. Oh, yeah. OK, so I have time to get week two. I thought it switched to a monster. Did you do your first one? I did the first one. Then your second one's coming soon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Oh, it's not the second week. Second, the second one started because the first one ended on the 25th. OK, but this is week two, so I can just go home and do it right now. OK, good. They're going to switch to Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter ones will be the next one.
Starting point is 00:57:51 OK, so like if I had more. I didn't like the beautiful Joe one, that one. Yeah, but it's still a portion. It's still weird. Yeah, I know, I know. But it's still like, this is super limited. You can only get one shot. Sure, but I'll get one when it's
Starting point is 00:58:03 when it's the right proportion character on that right proportion character. Captain Commando. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have the like dedication and a full ability to do this, but if I could, so I guess I'll put it out there. Maybe someone might. I'd want to make a Twitter that is just
Starting point is 00:58:19 costume reminders for when the deadlines are because you might not know that like, oh, shit, I have one day left. So I care and I did the first one and then completely forgot the thing existed. Exactly. Just mentioned. So Shinakuma, for example, I missed, right?
Starting point is 00:58:33 So I simply would just be like, even if you have a casual interest in getting these costumes, just a reminder to know you that like this day, this is up if you're not on the regular channel. I'm going to get those monster ones. Sure. Sure. And there was a limited time too, right?
Starting point is 00:58:46 Yeah. Yeah. So I guess you take it away. Well, sure. Well, I actually wanted to talk about like something is a couple of weeks back, but I didn't really get to go into it too much. I don't remember if I did, but I talked about watching Blame,
Starting point is 00:59:02 right? No. OK, well, I watched the blame movie on Netflix and it was and basically like that's a that's a thing that has always been it's another sort of like vagabond in the background franchise where it's like I've read a bunch of that manga and never really talk about it doesn't come up too much, but it's always kind of there.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And it seems to be one of those like sleeper things that yeah, every once in a while, someone knows what it is and will be like, yo, that's the shit. But otherwise, it's just like this weird manga that has been just running forever, right? Have you ever seen or read? Heard of it. I have heard the name and not much else.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Blame have robots. Yeah, nothing but nothing but that I do kind of know. I mix it up with Gantz and Cyril experiments. Yeah, does it? Does it? Lane is completely different. Does the CG film? Yes, then I've seen clips of this.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. In fact, it has has that it has a little weird collection of shorts that were like two, three minutes. Sorry, I didn't mean film. I meant film. I'm making fun of Ipatch Wolf. Oh, OK. Did you saw a film?
Starting point is 01:00:15 I saw a film, a film. So, yeah, the blame the blame Netflix thing was because let me to set it up. But blame is is in the years don't matter anymore because the numbers are just impossible. Right. OK, sure. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:34 The like, that's all you have to say because the numbers don't matter anymore. Future like a million. Who cares the architecture of the place that the camera happens to be in is infinity buildings and tech and structure in infinite directions. Almost. It makes no sense how there's so much stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:57 All we know is that there's the at some point, humanity had the ability to have these generators that built things. Sure. And then at some point, they lost control of them. And if you don't have a special type of gene, you can't control them. Therefore, these things go off and do their own thing.
Starting point is 01:01:15 So what you have is a character that basically is a special type of whatever like person that is trying to make your way his way up the levels of infinity inside this labyrinth of technology. And that's cool. And every level is like a different world slash entire ecosystem because every level is like you made it up from there's more than two levels.
Starting point is 01:01:43 This sounds right. This sounds like the reverse of the that abyss anime with the kids. And also, it sounds a lot like the D&D setting. Numanara actually. OK. Numanara is like its infinity years in the future. And there's like nine major apocalyptic civilizations
Starting point is 01:02:02 that are just built on top of one another. OK. So it's like it's magic, right? It's like, no, it's nanomachines. What kind of magic is nanomachines? Yeah, OK. Like that just infinity technology built on infinity.
Starting point is 01:02:14 That's a good setting. I like it. It's really, really cool. And it's just like you can't. It's unknowable how many levels there are. So like and you can just kind of take a glimpse of every story where it's just like, what happens here? Killy shows up and he encounters some crazy new world
Starting point is 01:02:33 on this level or some crazy new, you know, like closed environment or robots that don't know their robots. So, you know what I mean? Like all kinds of shit. And the whole thing is basically, you know, he's searching for the net terminal gene, which is the gene that allows you to fucking stop this shit and control it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But it's been infinite years and infinite directions. So like he'll show up and then say something like that. Where'd you come from? And he's like, I came from 2000 levels below and they'd be like, and then everyone freaks out and then a local problem happens and then he helps solve it. And then until tomorrow, he just keeps moving on. But in the process,
Starting point is 01:03:13 like the main thing is he's just got the reason why it's called blame is because it's supposed to be an automatic Pia for blam, right? And it's because he has a gun and it is a gun that is the problem solver. Yeah. And the peacemaker. What you do is you dial the knob to how much of a problem you have and then you pull the trigger and the problem goes away. And sometimes when you have a really big problem,
Starting point is 01:03:38 and the thing that sold me on it was like a pretty much a five panel sequence of him cranking that knob higher than it's ever been cranked before. Ever just by him. Higher than it's ever been cranked before in the manga, which was like to five, like barely halfway. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, like it's all like you have a full knob and he's like, let's put it up to here a little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And it's like, oh, my God. And he fires it. I guess you could say he was having a big problem. He fires it and cut to DBZ fighters. Dramatic finish. Yeah. Style right thing and cut to his arm, snapping off because of the cut. The kickback of the fire and then the problem went away.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. So it's a really cool tax series of future dystopia thing. That's really awesome. And I'm going to imagine he is some form of cyborg that his arm flying off is not that big of a problem. Not that big of a problem, right? But the thing that always sucks is Killy is Killy is the silent strong.
Starting point is 01:04:45 He's the whatever the man actually Killy. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're saying kill it. No, no, no, his name is Killy and and he's the man with no name. And he shows up and that's all fine and dandy, but usually there's some dumb kid or some dumb, you know, not. There's some oftentimes they'll be like some, you know, normal folks that have a problem,
Starting point is 01:05:09 maybe some girls having some tech issues or some, you know, destroyers are coming after her or whatever. But there's like in this movie, they decided to focus on some kids, you know, and then the village and then the interpersonal drama of the village and the people there and Killy's the Vash the Stampede just kind of rolling through, you know, and like it's there's been worse, you know, so obviously that part's annoying.
Starting point is 01:05:37 But but I still think it's a really interesting setting. It's an it's an incredibly like fun universe for a world that has no answers behind it. And I still would recommend you check out or read blame if you haven't because, like I said, it's been going on forever and it doesn't matter where you jump in or jump out almost. It's just because it's just a heavily serialized self-contained infinity, you know. And at one point, I remember reading the manga and being like, OK,
Starting point is 01:06:06 I just want to know and I skipped forward literally and just read another chapter from another volume ahead. And it was like, oh, no, it's still fine. It's just a self-contained thing. It doesn't matter. But it's still entertaining. And you just want to see what's he going to crank that dial up to today? You know, where's how far is that going to go?
Starting point is 01:06:23 Is it going to go to two? Oh, fuck, it might go to two. So, yeah, no, it's a good gimmick. It is. It is. It's kind of like spawns like the power levels. It's just interesting to see numbers tick down or go up in this case. And of course, anytime something that's connected to the that's still connected to the Internet, the season identifies what he has to be like,
Starting point is 01:06:47 oh, fuck, you have one of those. Those don't exist anymore. We can't make those. What the fuck is that? Like, it's a it's a big deal. So, yeah, Kelly is cool. Anyway, I played some Dragon Ball Fighter. What? I played some Dragon Ball fighters.
Starting point is 01:07:06 So that game sucks, right? It's terrible. Yes. So so doesn't have any characters. Like, where's where's Bardock and metal cooler? You explained this before about how do you get Android 21? You have to defeat the story to defeat Arcade Mode. Well, you can. No, OK. So I was planning to make a video, but yeah, maybe I still was still anyway. So you can get a Vegeta blue and Goku blue by either preordering by now.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yes, you can go to Arcade Mode and beat the hardest two settings of Arcade Mode. But you have to get ranked A, which means you said you can't get knocked out. To get to get an A ranking, it means one, you can't lose a match. To you can't lose a character. Yeah, OK, so I'm glad I preordered, right? You can't lose a character on the hardest, right? And like, they're like, so the other way to do it, it's like all their moves are all different, different, completely different characters.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah, the other thing is that the you can get them by just saving up enough Zeni, OK, of which one is at 300 K and the others at 500 K. That's a lot. It's a lot as any. It's a lot as any. Yes. So there's that route. And then I think you can just jump on the PlayStation Store and just and unlock them.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Just the money and buy the buy the unlock. Oh, you can. Yes. And I 21. Twenty one. Also, you beat the story mode to get twenty one, OK, which is much more reasonable than the things he has said now. Yeah, or you jump online and you just buy the unlock. OK, OK, so those are both there. And yeah, I think the. Well, I don't know, did you?
Starting point is 01:08:52 I don't even know where to start. I mean, like fucking good game, but playing a lot of it. But like at the same time, like on the launch day, when everyone was jumping online and doing their things, I was putting together videos, you know, so I'm going to still be. There's more to say. And as long as there's more to say, I'm going to still be dropping my skirt.
Starting point is 01:09:12 The fucking OK, so your Twitter has just random lab notes coming out. Yes, a lot of them have been pretty good, but most of them were kind of generalized stuff that I knew that if you were following the game, you would know. It's just like, hey, everybody who follows you on Twitter, it's like half of those people don't know nothing about no fighting game. Yeah. But the one that you put out, it was like, hey, fuckers, guess what?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Launch combos have different scaling than wall bounce combos or pop combos. I guess whatever you call the low launch high low medium or side launch launch. And I went, oh, that changes everything. Everything, because now I'm never going to do the launch combo. I'm always going to want to do low, medium into the regular. But guess what? You can't always do that with certain because the range of your down
Starting point is 01:10:02 age or to age is shorter and also easier to land. That's why those combos are so easy to do. Yeah, because they're scaling. It's like, OK, yeah. So that's really well thought out. But knowing, but even knowing that is a big deal, because like the launch ones, you get that hard knockdown at the end of them. Whereas in the non-launch ones, you don't always.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And exactly, you get the smash property back, which is a whole other thing I can't even get into right now. So I won't there's a and then I and like I did like make my I brought out my Excel sheet and then I wrote down all the numbers and I did the scaling comparison. And yeah, you drop thirty three percent of your damage on the table. That's a lot. If you if you do it sideways.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Anyway, so, um, yeah, the wall bounce one, the wall bounce one. It's not a it's not a wall bounce necessarily, but it's just like the sideways, the low screen combos. Yeah, you eventually scale down to sixty six percent of your. So you want to you want to this is high podcast poison. I'm getting off of scaling talk. OK, I what I my point was is that fucking good job. Thank you. That's super good information to have.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Thank you. Um, I'm trying to get in. I'm really trying to get in there and the thing that's meaningless to me because yesterday I was like, oh, you can teleport. Yeah. Oh, X and the thing with Y and B makes you teleport. And of course, like, you know, I get the always affirming message from, you know, Mr. Small just going, you fucking nerd. Look at you, big fucking nerd. But no, something that happens with every one of these tweets
Starting point is 01:11:39 that goes out, of course, is the like the post from Pop Team Epic. We're just like, I see. That's how it is. I understand everything now. Doesn't understand anything at all. All right. And it's like sometimes I make posts for people that are in the fighting game community. Sometimes I don't over this is part of my life. And there's not always a thing going on actively
Starting point is 01:12:02 where I'm in fighting game mode. But when I am, this is what I do. You're in your part of my personality. There were posts this weekend that I made about Monster Hunter that people responded with. Pat, are you having a fucking stroke? Oh, right. Just like jargon nonsense. Yeah. Right. No, totally.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I got like, I'm waiting like you mashed your hand on the keyboard. I haven't used the word fuzzy guard on any tweets yet. And I'm I'm afraid of the reaction. I haven't heard you guys say fuzzy is totally. Oh, wow. So I'm I'm I'm afraid of the reaction to that or chicken blocking. No, I'm personally unfamiliar with Chidori chicken block. Yeah. So that's the that I'll use it two times a day right now,
Starting point is 01:12:47 Saskia. You know, so whatever. The point is, is that like it can get a lot worse, but hopefully it'll get better before it does. And having fun with the game, having a lot of fun with the game, really enjoying the the lab time as everyone because that's what really everyone wants, you know, like I brought it out. I want to just regular training during the beta. So everyone know why they didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah, you would never. And the battle tutorial was like the closest thing you would get, but still it would give you fixed characters. Yeah. No, they wanted that limit on you. They did. They did. It was very fine. I was just like, oh, I'm so glad. Hopping in and fucking around with every character because I played about four or five hours of it
Starting point is 01:13:28 and hopping around and just getting a bunch of weirdo characters that their their their magic series doesn't work right. It doesn't work the same as everybody. Like Teen Gohan has a really bizarre magic series compared to everybody else because it's like medium like jumps him up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because none of those none of those weird quote unquote weird characters were actually like regularly playable in the last beta.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Yeah, well, Goku blue when you talk about like their his magic series, like fucking overhead in there. He's got a low. What the hell? You like nor like standing then blow then overhead. A really good dive kick, too. He has a dive kick. Yeah, he has a good dive kick.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Yeah. Well, regular. I'm just going to fucking. Yeah, I'm just so cool. I am just pretty cool. I got to I got to finally play a 16. Yeah. And oh, isn't it just the most fun? Just his regular man is a throw. What do you do that to into your air throw?
Starting point is 01:14:25 What do you do that to any or super throw? Well, it's one. It's a character, right? That it's a type of grappler where it's like I've grabbed you power bomb combo power bomb. Now, you choose which way you're going to flip up. And depending which way you flip, I might be grabbing you again. Yeah. Are you going to always are good?
Starting point is 01:14:45 Yeah. Are you are you holding the same direction? Are you not changing which way you're flipping? All right. Well, we'll we'll keep doing this until you do it. We will to keep doing this until you go the other way. Unfortunately, missed it when we're playing Super DBZ. But when I saw Max playing Super DBZ, we did 16s like throw moves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That chains the one to three. Three other throw moves that we didn't know about the time.
Starting point is 01:15:07 So that's what I was saying is that I just like I just love I was 16. Became the grappler. This is like Super DBZ was definitely where they got a lot of their moveset inspiration for him. But but he reminds me a lot of biking because like there's moments like that in anime games where it's like you're going to flip out in the air, right? Like Alpha 3 where they had that. And it's like, but when you flip out in the air, I'm ready for it.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And you're now throwable again. So you better be flipping in opposite directions to keep me guessing. Because if you keep doing the same one, I'm back on your ass. The thing that I didn't expect was 16 was that his heavy punch is so amazing. It's armored. It's and it's this massive rush forward that I can't find anybody else that has it. And you choose like a special move. So you choose to fly forward and hit or fly forward and grab.
Starting point is 01:15:53 It's great. So, yeah, 16 is a whole lot of fun. Obviously, like from, you know, I learned that early on. I hit I hit the final power that must never be used in final matches. Yeah, you did times. And I just like screw me. Yeah, you're not supposed to use it. Goku Black is the Virgil right now. He's just yeah, I got bodied by some guys.
Starting point is 01:16:13 You will. You will. Goku Black is really fast, really hard to react to at the moment. He's got he's got he's got everything on his own. He doesn't really even need the team. So it'll get there. And, you know, as far as some of the other characters go, Gotenks is disgusting, but like takes a lot of execution to be good with. Hit is so fucking stylish.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Weird. I couldn't get used to. I know. I thought he was going to be. I can I felt it. I'm like, hit is not for everybody. This is super good. Like what I like is his his his light rush punches and stuff like that. I'm like, yeah, OK, this is this a character. It's a boxer like and then his his mediums all being full screen.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Just yeah, not full screen, but their teleport hits. No, no, I mean where he just punches and like a line just appears. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the projectiles that shit. Like that try to block this. That weird anti projectile that's like, oh, I'm picking is like up in case he's jumping or down in case he's not. Yeah, it's like and he gets an exchange in exchange for no low attacks. He gets left rights on you all day.
Starting point is 01:17:18 If your feet are touching the ground, this is hits world. Yeah, he's exact. He's like Little Mac, right? Yeah. If you're not in the air, he owns you. But you if you stay airborne, you've got a chance unless I parry. So it's a lot of fun and saying dragon rush is unsafe on hit. Also, you can do you got to do. So I messed with twenty one and twenty one's a lot of fun, too.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Our twenty one is definitely like the character that has the most like of a unique system in the game by far. Because, you know, the archsist love goes all into this character. And you can see it in like the fact that they gave her so much. She has her four grabs and each one of them steals a move from the character and doesn't take yours away, but it gives her one of your moves. And by having designated by color, too. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And so by and so there's different versions of the moves she can steal. And by stealing and by filling up all four, she then gets like a really strong fireball she can shoot out or the ability to just spam a bunch of different specials she didn't have before, including like a teleport and stuff. So she has so much versatility going on in every matchup that like it's almost like. Yeah, you can pick her and like just solve any matchup problem
Starting point is 01:18:39 depending on who you're fighting, you know, like she'll be a lot of card. But she's barely even 10 years old. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's that. We saw that. Or she's a mom that had a son, then got turned. No, no, no, it's like that's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that gate on her. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Yeah, Andrew, 21 is 10 years old. No, no, Andrew, 21. Open the gate. She's 10 years old. Close the gate. She used to be a mom and had a son. Open the gate a little bit. Fuck, it's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:19:15 That's perfect. She's counting down from when she was an android. She's actually like 45. All androids would talk like I was I'm five years old. Sure, sure. Gores, yeah, Dizzy is three, like whatever, you know, it's anime, man. Yeah, I mean, oh, oh, man. And anyway, so the blues are so cool, are very cool.
Starting point is 01:19:38 The blues have the most production value, it feels like their their supers are just so. Yeah, I don't like blue Goku as much, but his level three is incredible. Yeah, right. His level three is probably the best looking one in the game. And because you get the Kaio Ken on top of blue for that blue or a red or a effect that just looks beautiful. Yeah, it just looks really, really good.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I think like hits are like looks cooler. I know what you mean, but like color wise, it's so strong. I think it's a simple super. I think my favorite is probably Vegeta's level five. When you hold it down and he does because the punch like the weird behind the person explosion is one of those little details that I'm just yeah, you should watch full metal panic for that effect specifically. But yeah, Vegeta's big bang attack level five is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:20:32 The other little things like unexpected like Tien is a problem when he's an anchor because his I don't know what that means. OK, so what is an anchor and anchor? OK, the position you put your characters in in a three of V three games like Marvel, you have a point man, which is the number one person you're ideally spending most you're fighting with. Yeah, a lot of the times you'll have a battery. OK, which if you can take a gas meter.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yep. And then you'll have an anchor and your anchor is everyone's dead. Time to go to work. OK, right. The different positions you put people in. Some characters work better as certain things because that's what they're strike cell excels his point. This I learned. Yeah, I love cellist point cell on points.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Fine. I was you know, no, no, no, it depends on your on your style. Like I like hit on point is what everyone suggests because he's got like really cool shit off of assists. But I like him on anchor because I'm I'm trying out some different shit and it's working out right now. But anyway, the point is, is that what was I talking about? We're talking about Tien is a problem. Yeah, the reason why Tien is so good when he's the last one.
Starting point is 01:21:45 The reason why Tien is so good when he's the last guy in is because when he has seven bars, it's so any time he touches you, if he gets a single punch, he can just combo right into his try beam. And the try beam is not only completely invincible, starts up right away, full screen. It's unavoidable. You can't teleport on it if you start if he activates it, because it hits the whole screen and it does it right away and it's doing almost it's doing more than half your life. That and if he decides to kill you by holding the his buttons down,
Starting point is 01:22:14 he can go try a beam one, two, three, four, and then you're dead. So but he loses life each one in when I was playing around in training mode and I got to Tien and I did that. I feel like that is the best super move of all time. It's it is all because the seven of our version. It's a full screen bionic arm that that you can drop on people for like ridiculous damage compared only to Phoenix rights level three. It's Phoenix rights full screen instant level three, where if you're not blocking your hit,
Starting point is 01:22:47 it's and it's so cool because it's what he did to sell. Yeah, because it was sounds like why am I not beating you because of this move? Because one move is so good because Kiko Ho has always been better than Tien. Yeah, kind of like the Destructo disc is better than Krillin. Why didn't you teach other people to use this? It's so good. It's filler, by the way. Selden takes shit.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Whatever. Yeah. Well, no. So anyway, it's it's and you know, I had somebody do that to me online. No, where I got it down to one and he touched me with a jab and then killed me with just the super and I didn't even have time to activate sparking. Like I'm just dead. I was over the weekend beating on because I went to I went down to the locals, you know, and we're playing and I was beating on a dude as Tien and basically
Starting point is 01:23:41 in the middle of the like I had my assist out. I called in like I forget whatever called in my assist and I did a string on him. And then I was about to like do like a little bit of a gap and then blow him up with like a fireball and he was just mashing out level three. And so like as soon as he stopped blocking, he went right into it and dropped the fucking tri-beam on both assists and killed me. The whole the whole match.
Starting point is 01:24:08 And it was like, oh, that's a problem. The ultimate happy birthday. That's a that's a fucking problem. So if there's if there's a one frame gap in your block stream and he's got meter, you're both characters can die. Oh, yeah. Tien's really, really like, OK. And yeah, just cool too.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Yeah. And so right now, the answer seems to be snap him in early and kill and murder him. Murder, murder, murder, Tien. You know, anyway. So yeah, but I was saying the blue characters are fun. The what else is it? Who is our character? You're just like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Right now, I was really I liked Imagine Boo early on. He's saying like, oh, I liked Imagine Boo early on. Right now, it doesn't I'm not really feeling him. The biggest, the best thing he has is that his tag, his super is just a full screen explosion, right? So it doesn't matter where you like, yeah, yeah. So it doesn't matter where you tag in and out. Yeah, it doesn't matter where you are on screen. When you switch to him, his super is going to hit you.
Starting point is 01:25:07 And that's a really useful thing. That's level one, too. Like it's not like a lot of people's safe ones is their level three's and the and right now, I guess, with team building, like not everyone has a really good assist, so you got to really have really bad ones. Yep. And some people have the best ones ever. Yep. Vegeta's well. So Vegeta is Vegeta's assist is he jumps in and he does like Amaterasu did
Starting point is 01:25:30 where he goes and that rapid fire is down at an angle, down at an angle. And it's so good because it lasts so long. That's like four or five seconds. And because it's so good, Vegeta as a character on his own is not that great because you pick him for his assist, you know. Boo, on the other hand, rather kid Boo comes in and does his little like like fireball, similarly good, but kid Boo's amazing. Yeah. So yeah, he's got a fireball that hits you from all directions
Starting point is 01:25:58 and homes in on you. And it's like you got to really build a team, got to build a team. And yeah, I learned how to use assists. Yeah, I finally. Yeah, fine. And all I needed was I was rating up somewhere. I forget where the fuck it was. It was it was I think it was in reply.
Starting point is 01:26:15 No, it was it was your Twitter, actually. And it was you get you added the one single piece of advice that I actually needed, which is make your overhead safe by calling your assist. Right. Yeah. And as soon as because the overhead slow, my oh, I can never combo after these. Oh, but I can't if I hit assist. Sorry, if I hit forward and medium, you get to say the overhead and immediately just touch the Vegeta button.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yes. Oh, now I get a combo for free. Yeah. And if I don't, then I'm sick. Or do take the exact combo you're doing now as a regular bread and butter. And then when you're when you hit the guy down, just hit the goku button and then land and then continue the combo because they had to stand up and no command, which means they had to be blocking. So you smack them down, but you're smacking them down into a beam and then you can continue, you know?
Starting point is 01:27:06 So there's there's yeah, there's things like that. That's how you get used to it. But yeah, I finally it finally clicked. I'm really happy. And that's what and that's one of three like beginner ways I recommend it. You use an assist is like just simply covering a thing safe that aren't safe. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's because you know how
Starting point is 01:27:27 whatever, I'll get off of it after this. But you know how frame traps work, right? Yes. Right. So what a frame trap is to just very quickly explain this is like if I press a button and then you block it and then you know that you can press something afterwards to now hit me, I do I make it so that you stop blocking for just long enough to be able to press a button. But the next thing I press is so fast that it'll stop you when you start.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Right. Right. So it's like it's like, imagine we go rock, paper, scissors and you go paper and I go like this, right? And then you're about to and then or rather you're you're about to wrap around my thing and then like I go, no, no, I cut you. So that would be you get kicked out of a rock. So to those of you who are a little more familiar with fighting games, probably an easier way to understand it is say you were like Zangief or something
Starting point is 01:28:15 and you do the big super heavy punch and but your opponent blocks it and they try and do like a big heavy punch of their own and they're stunned for so much longer that you can just jab them like in frame one of their startup. Right. And this and I like this is the most basic version of like the whole reason why people care about frame data and why that's such a nerdy, stupid frame traps. What the point, the reason why frame did exist and all that is because like if I hit you and that means I hit you and that means you're blocking in such a way that I have exactly four frames of advantage.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Do I have anything that's more faster? Yeah, you do. You cannot do anything for four frames, right? I'm I'm able to move around and you're still blocking. So if I have a three frame jab, that means that for one of those frames, you will be able to move and then like you'll go, I want to mash a button out. I'm going to jab, right? And I know that your button is too slow.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I'll be able to press my three frame thing. And because you had four minus one, mine hits you. You can't you can't win unless you don't press anything. So another example and arcade edition players maybe finding this and it's something that would confuse them is that when they play against grapple characters, they get knocked down or they try and do something and they get thrown even though they don't think they should be. They I should be able to jump.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I should be able to punch. It's because Abigail or Zangie for whatever hit you and you had so much advantage that the that the throw came out exactly on frame one of you able to do something, which means you can't do anything unless you jump unless you held up. Yeah. So I got people are going like, how do I get out of these things that combo into grabs? Like I know it's like you literally if you're blocking, you can't get thrown, you know, and it's like, oh, it just looks like he's comboing into
Starting point is 01:30:09 grabs like he is. But if you aren't getting hit, it's not going to get hit. Yeah, that's that's hey, you want to get the best advice, but it's advice. But no, but it's how you don't get thrown in that situation. You want to get good at fighting games? Don't get hit. I mean, it's frustrating advice. Uh, this is so anyway. Um, uh, what was it going to talk about?
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yeah, I was I was going to just say that the lobby avatars are I'm enjoying them a lot more than I thought I would. It's so many like little omake characters that you're like, oh, fuck, there's Bulma. Yeah, you know, it's great. I though really and it's always been an arxist fighter is like, I don't care much for the stamp style, you know, messages and things like that. I mean, like, you don't have chat, but you have polite messages and little pictures you can put and, you know, it's their way of going like, don't shit talk each other,
Starting point is 01:30:55 but you can use these, these many little polite. I mean, make sure that these are these are all polite. Thank you kindly for the math. People, people are still able to shitpost. Like Hearthstone has like five messages that you can do total. So people just troll by going like, they'll bust your ass up and just go. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll find a way. Do we know what the system is in place or disconnects?
Starting point is 01:31:18 Like is it the same as other arxists right now? It seems like there is no downside. There is one other there is. And when you go to your ranked matches, one of the things you can select in your matchmaking is high completion rate of matches. Oh, OK, OK. So you can have any matches or it goes. How strong do I want them to be the same as me or stronger?
Starting point is 01:31:43 Yeah, what connection? And then the next one has two toggles. Anything or high completion match. And I believe that's what in Street Fighter, I think there's a handshake symbol. But I think there is a symbol next to your name in your title that says, no, you have a good someone that this a lot and we'll just most likely get less match. Well, someone tweeted at me and told me that they fought the number one ranked player and the guy rage quit on them.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Right. So it seems like we're in a there might be a current state of highest rankings are the is the guy that just quits before every loss kind of bullshit. And it is just so big fan of jail. Well, it's more along the lines. And this is this is one thing that really is annoying in any genre is when new things come out that could build off of the solutions we've already fixed in previous games and then they don't. Yeah, but then you don't for whatever reason, like why I get it.
Starting point is 01:32:38 You don't want to look at other people. You don't want to pay attention to others and you want to do your own thing. But we've solved that. Why make it so that people come out and complain about that aspect when you can just solve it the way they want to see what the disconnect situation is when the game launches just to see holding start to pause is now a standard. That's nice. Tapping buttons to put your your your your your configs in quickly is now a standard.
Starting point is 01:33:01 You can also see how DPC fighters is a game that would enrage that mindset because you can just get touched once and die depending on how good you are. Like so I've just seen videos of a disconnect videos where I'm like, that is a situation I could see. So I got fuck this, especially against like 16. I got really, really frustrated where I was beating a guy and we went to the final rematch, I was beating him, got him down to one character. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:31 And then he started to run it back and he got he killed my second character. And then I lost the connection to the match as my second character was dying. And I like, no, that sounds like a legit disconnect. It was yeah, because he was beating me and I sure as fuck disconnect. Yeah, but he will always know in his heart that I rage quit on him because what like, oh, I'm making the comeback in the final match. Oh, yeah. And it's fucking asshole disconnects.
Starting point is 01:34:02 And it's like, I felt awful. I give I get I give benefit of the doubt until you have one character with half a bar left. That's exactly what happened to me. So that's how much was left. I deserve no benefit of the guy from that guy's got you got you. OK, OK. Online plays really solid.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Minor disconnects every nine every 20 matches. Yeah, it's but but but like you don't expect to be able to react to things that you can react to offline. Yeah, but I mean, ArcSys does really good. I I I played a lot of A.E. Online matches recently and like a bad match in a bad match in Dragon Ball is a little little slow, a bad match in Street Fighter is unplayable garbage. Like the rollback is beyond infuriating.
Starting point is 01:34:51 It's it was back so far because you see I'll see my hit work. And then I'll see no. And then it'll roll back. It's like, no, you're getting supered right now. I I hit confirmed in a super only for the game to tell me no, that was a block. But then my super still came out. Exactly. It's come on, come on. Periodic. Oh, there is one other thing I want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:35:14 DBZ Fighters. Yeah. When I played it on Thursday, I streamed it. And there was an unfortunate side effect to that because I discovered something that no one has ever told me about fighting games until now. Like I saw a brief mention last time I streamed a fighting game. Lobby bombing. No, it's about me. So I move I got new microphones and I move the camera closer to my face. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:38 OK. Yes. So yeah, you're one of them. So when I'm doing combo, oh, yeah, you do. And I'm concentrated. Yeah, you do. Honest to fuck looks like I'm sucking a ghost's dick. Your mouth is open and moving. And my tongue is shooting out to the sides and my cheeks get puffy and
Starting point is 01:36:05 it's it's so bad. Yeah, like Paige is sitting next to me. And she's like, Pat, what the fuck are you doing? And I go, what? And then I go and look at the footage of me and it's like, I'm sucking a ghost's fucking dick on the stream in front of everybody. That's why we don't have a video of us playing fisticuffs. I so I know multiple people that do that, right?
Starting point is 01:36:33 It's just when you're locked in and you're focused, your mouth is open and you're just like it's just happening. It's a subconscious thing. Like it's almost like the nose touch, right? But it's like it's so much more intense. It's way more intense. And yes, and like and you'll see this at tournaments all the time, by the way. It's all over the place.
Starting point is 01:36:51 It's a very common sight, but it's hilarious because it's a just it's a top flip a coin and see if you're the type of person that does it or not. And it's only and it's only when I actually it's only when the match is tough. When the match is easy, it's not there. Sure. When the match is tough, all of a sudden, just put that ghost penis in for me, though, like is the thing. And I think like it's almost like the like whatever part of my brain is focused on playing, though, is for me is the part
Starting point is 01:37:18 where like someone will walk by and go, oh, by the way, hey, Willie, I'm gonna and it's be like, I'll be like, I cannot talk to you while I'm playing, dude, like there's no right. There is zero brain function dedicated towards having a conversation, you know. And that's always like the thing is like if I'm trying to actually play or focus on finding that opportunity, you need the ability to like react to a thing really quickly. And it's like, yeah, I can't talk. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:37:43 It's like and I know that you can and I know that Max can and I'm jealous of that because I'm like, I just make I do nothing. But I could talk in between matches. Yeah. But I can't talk while I'm playing the matches. You're not sucking a ghost off. Sure. Sure. But I mean, for the purposes of people watching and like I try to have some sort
Starting point is 01:38:02 of stream or something, it was the it would just be like, all right. Now round one starts might as well hit the mute button, dude, because I'm not. I can't I can't do it. When we stream killer angst of that one time, we're having good matches. It was like complete silence. I don't forget what our faces were. Sure. Yeah. You don't do that.
Starting point is 01:38:18 You know, you do you do like you bite your lip or like, you know, maybe whatever. I mean, I like, I feel like I'm not conscious of what I have to have to have a conversation, like to be able to do that. I like I could consciously do it. But then I would just have to completely not care about how I'm playing. It's it's to those who have to just auto. Don't know what I'm talking about. It's like, you know, when something when you really concentrate, some people go,
Starting point is 01:38:37 they bite their lip or they put their their tongue to the side of their cheek and go, hmm, just imagine that times a thousand just just times a thousand. It's it's very first stream I ever did with the camera closer to my face. So it's like my head's really big in the frame and everyone's like, oh, man. Fuck, that is so awkward. I've seen so many times. I've seen the type where it's like you go from suddenly being shut to being open and then shut again, like a very like like it's like a fit.
Starting point is 01:39:08 It's like a gasp for air is how it looks. And I've seen the like rolling your tongue on your bottom row of your teeth. Like, I've seen that, you know, like people just have these reactions in these spaces and you know, you can watch certain top players. Just just just if you just watch them play, like I don't say who, but some top players make some hilarious. The worst part is that at one point I was told, hey, you're doing it. And I and my mouth stopped moving.
Starting point is 01:39:37 But then I couldn't think for like two full seconds and thus lost the match because I got blown up. There you go. Oh, man. Yeah. Anyway, so there's that. And then I managed to pop in Monster Hunter long enough to create a character. Yeah. And then and walk to my room. Yeah, that's correct. And that was that because, you know, me, it took the same old G took you a bit.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Still, though, bummed out. Why is that facial details in that creative character? They're good. Pretty, pretty detailed positioning of every feature is on is there. OK. Limited hairstyles, very limited hairstyles shared by both genders. So you've got the four. Hair is important.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Four pages of six, I think. And that's about it. I like I'd say that hair is more important, like face facial features. And that's the thing is exactly right. So I'm like, OK, there the me verse has more hairstyles, you know. It did. Yeah, actually. And anyway, and so there's that. The the makeup section, I was like, as if.
Starting point is 01:40:49 And then it's like, no, that's where your scars and things go. And I'm like, oh, OK, cool. I'm spent some time here. And then the what was it? Yeah, they as far as the skin tones go. Eh, there's like 30 B plus. All right, because because it has four. It's a square with four corners and you have your like very, very pink.
Starting point is 01:41:13 You're I put I picked upper left all the way. Yeah, you have your very, very pink pale. You have your bottom side, like very tan. Then you have your mochicino corner on the bottom right and then up top. You've got dark, dark and the dark, dark, of course, starts to lean into a little bit of that purple, dark. Yeah. And it's like, yeah. Why is the purple, dark thing?
Starting point is 01:41:38 I think it's Japan. It's your nose. Japan picks. You're not you just just pick an eyedropper tool. Yeah, just give me the spectra. Watch some real people and then look at that. Look at those values and use those values. You know, so it sucks because it's like if you go, we can save time
Starting point is 01:42:00 by not doing that. Yeah, so you can you're it's still put in the Mr. Popo colors you can get. You don't have to go that far. You can you can change things. You can go fictional color. So there is there is a legitimate problem with the character caterer. I think so can our interviewed the Monster Hunter guys.
Starting point is 01:42:15 They they're thinking about maybe in the future, people ask for it to have a do over option. I saw that in the news. And the reason why is because your characters face in the creator will often not something about the way they're attached to the bodies or the heads or model to deal with the expressions. Means that it often looks slightly different than the one you made. So as soon as I finished and I was happy with what I got and I went
Starting point is 01:42:44 through the expression thing to see how wide do you want your expressions to be? Because this face should probably not go all the way into like giant smiley face. If it looks bad. So I was like, I'm happy with this looks good. And then the cut scenes started and my character started reacting to things. And I went, oh, God, oh, can I go back like my face in my character? When I look at the my character standing and he's completely still. He looks very close to what I made, right?
Starting point is 01:43:09 But as soon as he starts to go, huh, huh? I'm like, why is my face so wide? Yeah, or yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, this game has maybe the worst lip syncing. It's really bad. It's really bad. Ever. Yeah. But I do appreciate, though, that of the different expression types. So you can choose between how, how, how it's loud of a person
Starting point is 01:43:31 you want to be with your expressions. Are you the type that has big, toothy smiles and giant wide mouths? Or are you more muted? Right? So there's those. And then you can choose, like, are you the type that smiles with your brow forehead or not? Right? So there's that little, little salties there, evil expression. The one of the dickhead was like, but you also get to choose between
Starting point is 01:43:51 do you express your face or your facial expressions? Japanese style or Western style in the sense that. And like, what does that mean? That means that, like, when you're shocked, do you make a face that sounds like it's going? Or do you make a face that looks like it's going? Whoa, right? Because, whoa, is an American Western thing.
Starting point is 01:44:17 And is a Japanese. No, you know, and it's similar to like the like, like when you're like confused, like the, the Western thing is to go. Huh? Yeah. And the Japanese thing is to go, eh, right? It's kind of like, your mouth makes a square shape, like, eh. And so that difference in the expressions is like, you get to pick which one speaks more to you.
Starting point is 01:44:42 So I'm like, that's cool that they thought of that. I like that they put that in there, but no hair, but no hair. Nothing remotely resembling a dreadlock. However, that helmet that you can start with one fucking universe that I'm like, yeah, they don't look like we'll just dread it up. No, but there was the helmet that did make your hair look like it has these kind of like crazy malign main things going on. And it makes it your hairstyle, too.
Starting point is 01:45:07 So I'm like, well, if there's helmets that give me different hair, that's awesome. Most helmets are just going to cover your character's whole fucking. Yeah, which means I probably won't be rocking it. Can I can't even I wish? No, no, no, I mean, the I'm going to toggle the option on. Oh, that's what you mean. OK, I wish I don't need a full character makeover, but I wish you could go in and cut your hair, right?
Starting point is 01:45:27 Like, Neo has you can. Yeah. Oh, so it's really just facial expressions. You can't change. No, what you can change and facial details. So the logic is very Japanese and it's like, you can you can change your makeup and you can change your hair and you can change your eyelash. And but your body is your body, but your head, your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK, got it. OK, that's you know what?
Starting point is 01:45:51 I'm fine with that. Then if I can change my hair, then I'm then I'm I'm actually fine. Because I yeah, I don't think I'm going to need to go back and make too much of a different face on my character. Hey, that game's good. Why do you tell me what shows in it that? Yeah, people were were showing off all the stuff. See what you see the characters that fucking swear he made?
Starting point is 01:46:10 He made Diane and Cooper like perfectly. He did. It was astonishing. I blew through low rank, beat low rank. That took me about 30 ish. This I like how they have stories. It's not at all what I was expecting in the sense that like. I mean, I were you expecting. I don't know, but I wasn't expecting these legendary Pokemon
Starting point is 01:46:35 are all going across the ocean. Where are they going? Why? You know, that's basically it. So I'm going to talk about some minor gameplay shenanigans in terms of like the structure of the game. So low rank is your first half of the game. High rank is your second half, but it's actually probably like 90 percent of it. So you're taking in right now. What's that on the monion? You're taking in, right?
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Starting point is 01:47:24 But yeah, then altered carbon. I saw the trailer for this. It looked really cool during Blade Runner ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What does it mean to truly live forever? Well, this is a cyberpunk tale based on Richard K. Morgan's novel, altered carbon is a hard boiled detective. Noir set 300 years in the future.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Matt, that sounds badass. You saw some good things. Yeah, I saw some good things. It's like I am brought back to solve a murder and in 300 years time. So yeah, I there's a very long trailer, but it like it looked really good. I think it's coming out in like a few days. OK, set in Bay City, modern day San Francisco.
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Starting point is 01:48:32 Wow, geez. OK, and those rich enough to make copies of themselves for those rich enough to make copies of themselves. Death is no longer a given. So eternal life to those who can afford it means internal control for those who can't. But nobody lives forever. So altered carbon is starting out on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:48:50 This is Pat, I think rejoining. This is a hard boiled detective. Noir set it set 300 years in the future. Cyberpunk. Yeah, I heard some of the things you were talking about. Sleeves, that sounds really dope. And you can check it out. Topia.
Starting point is 01:49:06 It's streaming on February 2nd on Netflix. So that's about to start. Sounds awesome. Thanks, Netflix. Altered carbon is also good. That's a really good name. That's a really good name. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Monster Hunter. All right, money, honey. So one before I go any further. Very happy for Capcom. This is as of the weekend, the best selling Monster Hunter of all time. It beat out Portable. So Portable 3rd was the.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Omerito. Was the is now the second best selling and it sold 4.9 million. And that was over its entire lifespan. Whereas World has now beaten 5 million by the weekend. So Monster Hunter is now on consoles for a while. Hey, can this be? Could this be the reaction to a proper console release? Yes, the thing that's always been a head held franchise and the thing
Starting point is 01:50:02 in which it got a lot of it's a lot of its weirdest bullshit got cleaned up for audiences that aren't aware of it. This game has the most aggressive like sequel streamlining I have ever seen in any game ever. And I have not dis I have not disliked a single one of them. Every single time I run into what you would call an accessibility concern that got changed so that it would be easier to deal with or less tedious quality of life.
Starting point is 01:50:35 I go, oh, thank God, oh, my, oh, back in my day. Yeah, we know we bit. We did this, but like what I mean is this game has like Monster Hunter has been a very set in its ways franchise. And the fact that there are this many that are changed everything from how do you gather materials to get monsters to run quests to join lobbies. Everything is it's amazing. I do have some pieces of advice for people that are genuinely new
Starting point is 01:51:05 to the series at all, because there are some things that the game does still almost nothing to tell you how it works. At all, the first and most complicated one for most new players is going to be capture quests in which you don't kill the monster. You capture it. I wouldn't even I wouldn't even know. I wouldn't even know how to start. So here's the deal.
Starting point is 01:51:27 They'll tell you that you use a trap and then you throw tranq bombs at the monster when it's weak, right? Most players are going to not know when it's weak enough. Limping limping is a good sign sleeping sleeping is a great sign. But most players are not going to know if it's weak enough and they're either going to try and tranq it too early or kill it by accident, right? If you fill up the tracking meter by getting enough of its tracks or mucus or whatever, and you fill that bar out, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:56 the one where you can see the monster on the map all the time. Yeah. And you've damaged it enough to capture it. A big skull icon will appear on the monster in your mini map and start to pulse. That means you can capture it. That means it's close enough to death that you can capture it. Then put it in any trap of your choice, run up to it, any part of its body
Starting point is 01:52:17 and throw two tranq bombs at the floor and you'll capture it. That's it at any point. Yeah, it has to still be trapped. But what I mean is you don't have to be a specific part of its body. Just throw the tranqs down and you'll capture it. Good job. Second thing is in low rank, which is the first 30 ish hours of the game. Don't worry too hard about grinding out armor, like grinding out new sets.
Starting point is 01:52:42 All the early sets are not like they don't have a lot of skills on them. And low rank sets do not keep their value once you go into high rank. Basically, they become trash. They are temporary. So there's no point really. There is no point to grind them all out. You can definitely grind out a set because your defense is so low that you're getting one shot at by all means.
Starting point is 01:53:06 But just like the way it looks. Then you can do that for the high rank one. Sorry to go back on the last one. What the skull pops up at about what percent you'd say? Five percent. OK, so to go really, really down there. Like when you say you're beating on the monster and it's enraged and little skull icon shows up in the minimap and it's still fighting you.
Starting point is 01:53:27 If you keep fighting it, you are going to kill it in less than a minute. OK, can you set before the mission your goals to tell people, let's capture this or let's kill it? Or do you have to use the in-game messaging to tell people in the mission? Other use there used to be dedicated capture quests. Fuck. Um, now there are not. You have to communicate with everybody to go like,
Starting point is 01:53:53 hey, I hope you want the same thing I do. So what you do is you go into your emotes. There's not a voice chat. There is a voice chat in built in game, but no one's going to use it. No, I have no intention of talking to people. Nobody has a microphone set up to the PlayStation. And I have one. I know because there's no official one.
Starting point is 01:54:10 No, if I'm playing with friends, absolutely. If I'm playing with strangers, I'm not fucking getting into that. Remember K.I., remember killer instinct? Because I never played it with headphones. No, you didn't have to. You the Kinect would just use the the mic of the room. I never even used that because my Kinect died after a month. Season one of K.I.
Starting point is 01:54:30 You have anyone that had a Kinect plugged in, which was a lot of people. Can we now? Yeah, I would hear. You would hear the you'd hear babies crying and shit because the mic was automatically on, which meant you're talking to somebody in the room, like just shouting at your Xbox, meant the other person could hear you and vice versa. And it was a default setting. What an amazing time to be alive.
Starting point is 01:54:50 It was one of the worst experience. It was amazing. I've almost never had a worse fighting game experience. It was so bad until you turned that off. You have to put like earmuffs on to make you stop listening. Even if the person's not shit talking, you're just hearing babies crying. And some dude going, fuck, fuck, fuck. And he's not talking shit to you.
Starting point is 01:55:11 He's just talking shit to the air, to the BNL. But it's happening. Was there not an option to mute it? There was. And I just it just but like, but it was like, fuck it. The default was not there. And I was like, oh, my God. And I, you know, and I forgot a couple of times. So it happened.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Sorry, because you guys are saying using the in game messaging system. And I'm like, what? There are multiple in game messages to probably exactly. So well, there are there are still dedicated capture quests, but I don't think there are like one for every monster, for example, with strangers, you have to do it the hard way. So there is a much, much, much easier way. You can set up emotes to have any text string you want in them.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Right. So you can go into you can go into your emote stuff and you can set the wave emote to say, hey, fuckers or whatever. Right. And you can also you can also set automated messages to go off when you do certain things. So an asshole friend of mine has his fucking partner dies message says, get good. So if you're hunting with him and you die, it a message automatically pops up says, get good.
Starting point is 01:56:19 So what you can do is set up to any emote you particularly like the phrase, hey, can we capture this one? That'd be nice or something. And then just when the quest starts, hit the wave that you set that to and it will pop up that message for everyone. Problem is, is if you've joined up with people in the lobby that don't have any intention of doing that, then you just waste your time. That's playing with randoms.
Starting point is 01:56:43 You cannot ever control what randoms do. So if they say no, that I go, well, I'm wasting my time. Well, no, because OK, cap like there's never going to be a situation in which you want to capture it and you accidentally kill it unless it's a capture quest that you're like, oh, no, because capturing gets you different rewards. That's what I mean. But like if I'm so if I'm trying to farm these different rewards
Starting point is 01:57:07 to get a specific, usually you just want to carve them. Capturing also gives you more research in this game to track them. You most of the time, I guess I'm just trying to say that, like, if there are situations that you get a completely different thing out of capturing, right? So that means you're going to want to sometimes definitely do that. You're never going to get completely different. It just changes the odds.
Starting point is 01:57:29 OK, there's nothing you can get just by capturing. OK, so in other words, just so just go solo or with friends to capture them. Well, I would always recommend to solo and go with friends for all scenarios. Oh, OK, yes. Do either one of the two options in any co-op game. I would always tell you to go solo or with friends. It's a co-op game that you play with your buddies or or or a discord or or if you're going to do something by yourself.
Starting point is 01:57:59 Just do it. It really means just by if you just want to capture because it's a. OK, OK, so is this like so is a bit is it kind of like an overwatch situation where it's like, sure, you could go into pub games. But oh, I absolutely. So I absolutely go into pub games. But like if you have some highly specific goal that would require communication. Yeah, maybe don't go into a pub game or just solo it or yeah, or just solo it.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Like all the to so far, all the quests that we're just purely for capturing. Have been like upgrade unlocks for your town or something like that. So I did all of those solo. But when I was playing with randoms, like occasionally I would just throw a trap down and like, oh, I guess we're going to try and capture it. OK, it just like is like I said, I haven't obviously done it to know. But it just in theory, the sounds of trying to coordinate randoms to do a highly specific method of taking the boss down.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Here's the deal. Sounds impossible. If if the monster starts limping, like and a guy start and a guy stops attacking it, that means that he's probably going to go to the nest and try and trap it. And most of the time people just stop and they let the guy trap it. OK, like it's it's it's far less of an issue than you imagine. But I'm sure like me and other folks that's just starting out are just going to like kill, kill, kill.
Starting point is 01:59:17 There are a lot of random fucking scrubs out there. Just just mash and bullshit putting down small dynamite when everyone puts a large one down. Yeah, I did that. By the way, that that sleep bombing is not nearly as common, especially with pub pub groups, because you need to actually make those barrels now instead of getting them for free every single time. OK, they're not expensive. They're just a pain in the ass.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Many manually. So you only use them on once. It's like, man, this guy's horn is so fucking hard to break. We're going to we're going to sleep on this fucking horn. Shit like that. Right. So I was saying capture quests, do those the way I described, don't spend all of your time making lots and lots of sets of high rank arm of low rank armor because it's transient.
Starting point is 01:59:59 You can spend all your time in the world making high rank armor and that can be upgraded to the max. And it's all really, really good. Cool. And the last one is a bit of a weird mechanical thing. When you go into high rank, you'll get a quest to track down a weird monster. And it will say go to every map and find its tracks so we can find it so that you can unlock the quest to fight that monster. Right. Don't just be aligned to every map and try and find its tracks
Starting point is 02:00:29 because that will take fucking forever. What you're supposed to do is go into expeditions, find high rank monsters and gradually make yourself a set of better gear and gradually get used to the new versions of the zones, the new versions of the monsters and then go fight what would be the key quest of that of that rank. Because if you tried to just go out, the tracks are really, really, really far apart. There's only one per area it would take forever. And it's super tedious.
Starting point is 02:01:01 You're supposed to go to the new zones because all the materials change. All the things that you would mine, all the bugs, they all change to the higher version. Make make a bone set, make something easy, but which is still way, way better than what you beat low rank with. Last question. So the fucking insect glaive is like Marvel, right? Yes, pole vault and air combos. That's correct. Aerial rave.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Now, I saw in the tutorial video fighting game character. Yeah, that's correct. You know, you know, that's fine. I saw in one of the tutorial videos that it seems like the one of the sword and shields or double daggers, maybe has also giant spinning, crazy aerial that would be the dual blades. But was that with the high attack that comes back down? No, that's the sword and shield.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Sword and shield has that. OK, how many weapon types have crazy ass air shape? OK, sword and shield has a giant chore you that ends with a downward shield bash. The dual blades have the ability to spin. They it is straight up the Levi versus Annie spin from attack on Titan. Like when he does it down her arm slash monster hunters jumping it super, yeah, where she goes, the demon is out and spins.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Oh, insect lay. Oh, do you get do you get the super dash after that? The super dash. Do you get the like really quick? That's called that. That is demon mode. You hit you hit R on you hit R two with the with the twin daggers with the twin daggers and you turn into that.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Yeah, and then the ghost goes bam with the so that you collect the sword together and then you can do the super dash through things. Absolutely. Oh, OK, that's that whole thing's mechanical. So the sword, the sword and sorry, the long sword has when you build up your meter, you do this big stab and then you jump 10 feet in the air and you come down for a helm splitter, the great swords jumping attack. You can charge so that you you start holding the charge in mid air and go one, two, bam on the way down from as high as you can.
Starting point is 02:03:07 But like, but I mean, I mean, like vaulting you from the ground. Lance Lance has the ability during their run to make a jump and do like a jumping like stab that can. OK, all right. So it's not it's not super uncommon. No, OK, especially with a lot of the sliding attacks, like down a hill, you have have leaping variants. Yeah, I but I specifically was thinking of like the super jump.
Starting point is 02:03:30 You know, OK, cool. Um, yeah, everything. Yeah, there are so many new. I want her. There are so many. You want your wife, I want her. It makes sense. I am I am so like the other thing is that like in in 3U and for you,
Starting point is 02:03:47 there were these big event monsters, like the ones that are like levels that their gear was always good, but they were such a nightmare to farm because it was like this 25 minute mission and you had to have everybody on the cannons and, you know, it's not like a regular fight. And it was just the absolute worst. The version of that in this game is fast and easy and drops are plentiful. And it's just such a fucking breath of fresh air that it's not the disaster that, say, like Jen Moran was or CDS.
Starting point is 02:04:19 How about a fucking character change at whatever the option so I can go down and turn my palico into a fucking dog? How about that? No, absolutely not. Fucking no. No. You can go get you can go get the I'm not feeling it. I'm going to assume it's pronounced Odogaron because Japan and the set that it makes is Japanese themed.
Starting point is 02:04:45 But I call it Odogaron and it's a dog. It's a mean ass dog. And when you put your palico in that armor, it's like a like a like a she's a like kind of angry dog. And that's probably the closest you're going to there's also that one of the dudes in the in the little round table in the intro that's basically got like a fucking pirate Zangus for a palico hanging out next to him.
Starting point is 02:05:06 And I'm like, oh, that's badass, but you're you can't. Oh, you mean? Oh, you mean the big fucking? Yeah. OK. So that fucking thing is Oh, God, what's his name? It's like, I can't make my palico look cool like that. So that's that's the head chef. You can make lots of palicos look cool. That's that's the head chef that runs the canteen.
Starting point is 02:05:28 And I believe you don't get hair. You don't get what you want. Shut up. Nothing. I believe he is called the Meownskiller chef. Yes. And whenever and whenever you talk to him every single time you talk to him and he has a quest for you to go get a new ingredient for the canteen, he starts to scream at you that we need this kind of fish so that we can bulk up.
Starting point is 02:05:50 You know why? Because over here we get Max Gaines. Yeah, yeah, because he's super ripped and he's super into being ripped. And that's why he's three times the size of all the other palicos. But also meow, meow, meowty duty, meowty duty to you too. It would have hurt less if they just kept it at the end. No, no, absolutely not. Meow is better than meow.
Starting point is 02:06:13 So you'll never see this character because they're not in world. But in three, there was a foreign palico that would hang out on the ship called the Argosi and you would talk to it and it would it would be what brought you to the multiplayer and his name was Neco Means Cat. Like I feel like because it's like you get to that name prompt moment and I'm like, if I was looking at a dog, I'd have fucking poppy. I'd have blade wolf. I'd have like it's ready and waiting to go.
Starting point is 02:06:46 You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just and then you get to the cat prompts and I'm like. So you're saying there's no famous cats. No, I'm saying there's nothing I care for that. I'm going to be fucking throwing in there. Listen, swat that. Fortunately, I can do both. It has to be a cat because you get your fucking you get your choice
Starting point is 02:07:06 and you get your choice because you've got the. Oh, by the way, I can do both. I should mention. Well, you probably didn't dive into this, but Matt, you'd appreciate this. The cat character creator is just as in-depth and you can get real fucking close. I saw. I saw real fucking. The first things and all that is really in detail. Then you can pick the air types and all that.
Starting point is 02:07:25 I'm like, that's cool. I don't want a cat. Well, well, a palico is a calico cat that is your pal. Yeah. Therefore, it has to be quiet to like them. I want a warrior sheep, a warrior sheba. Well, I mean, you just get the odogger on armor and maybe it'll look a little bit like one. I literally think that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 02:07:52 Yeah, granted, a palico armor scale. So that'll be good for a while, but then you want to. But I can't turn his voice off. No, I can only change shoes like this between kitten, cat and. We're mean, weird busted cat. Which sounds. Yeah, it's not great. The main if if your palico makes you absolutely want to kill yourself with its constant cat noises, you can leave him behind.
Starting point is 02:08:17 If you talk to him at the base, I would not suggest. No, I need him. But I just don't like you a lot. I don't need you. I need you, but I hate the color of your skin and your face. Now, we'll leave your function. Well, did you did you did you find the poogie? I just got.
Starting point is 02:08:34 OK, I walked into town and I went to my house. So the poogie is a little pig that will be wandering around with a little coat. Good name, poogie. If you go up to it and pet it skillfully, it will be it will be it will be happy with you. And it may increase your item drop rate, maybe. Wait, wasn't that Mega Man?
Starting point is 02:08:54 Shit armor for your palico? Yes, so I can just have Mega Man. Dude, my palico looks like a robot from Horizon Zero Dawn right now. OK, if I can, because that shit is in the game, right, right, right. OK, so I can just hide all the cat. Yeah, good. Yeah, eventually, good. You know, hide the cat. But is Mega Man going to be meowing?
Starting point is 02:09:14 No, I think Mega Man actually. Usually those theme ones come with themed sound effects. So Mega Man would go beep boop. OK, good, good, good. And like the Mega Man Palico, I don't know if you remember the trailer, like that looks horrific in that art style. It does. It does. And it'll be jarring, but I'll I'll I think I want to I don't know. I'd rather it be jarring than it fit the game.
Starting point is 02:09:34 I don't want this fuck. Honestly, I don't know what else to talk about other than the game is everything that I've wanted from that series for like a decade. I'm so happy with it. Everything works so well. Well, I got this except for one thing. There is one thing about the game that is bad and not just Western players hate it.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Japanese players can't stand it. And it is the way that it deals with cutscenes. When you go to when you go. So when you go to a mission to fight a new monster for the first time, there's always going on a mission. There's a cool cutscene that shows off the monster doing cool shit, right? You're not allowed to play co-op until everyone has seen that cutscene. Yeah, I heard about that, which means that if you and your pals
Starting point is 02:10:17 just want to play through the whole story, there is constant dropping and leaving and going back into games. And it's really, really because watching because they don't cutscene problem. They don't want players to get stuck behind other players cutscenes. So I get that and most of your time hunting most monsters in high rank is going to just be, hey, we're going to run this 20 times. So it doesn't matter in the long run. But someone's first time and playing through the story is kind of impossible.
Starting point is 02:10:49 So why not just do story solo? And that's what I do. What I did is I played the story mission solo and then whenever I wanted to farm something, which is often I would say, hey, guys, what are you doing? Solo is harder, though. No, no, it's not. The scales, it scales the health values and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Well, I guess you just don't get the advantage of the attention being drawn away from you. Like I feel like in a soul's kind of way, having one other person changes the difficulty drastically because it sometimes means the boss will not look at you. Yeah, monsters have different dynamics. Occasionally when they are in multiplayer. So for example, they're really, really aggressive monsters
Starting point is 02:11:25 that will if somebody tries to sharpen within a certain distance, like within their range, but very far away from them, they turn around and go, fuck that guy and and right. Wow. Now, that's ridiculous. So you have to sharpen. So you have no choice in solo. That's not that big of a deal, because you're very rarely going to get that far away.
Starting point is 02:11:52 Yeah, but in multiplayer. Oh, he's fighting those guys over there. The other thing three, you're handling three. And then like that dude way back in the corner here. And the other thing is that solo, you have that you don't have the distraction because you only have your Palico, but also someone can't lose the mission for you
Starting point is 02:12:18 when you're playing solo. Whereas in multiplayer, dumb. I saw some people complaining online because they were playing with people that are brand new to the series. And it's like this Angenath quest should be easier, but new players just don't know how to get out of the way of this dude's charge and just bam. Bam, bam.
Starting point is 02:12:36 And sometimes like a bad dive bomb off one of these guys can kill everyone in the party and just or the failure. Yeah. OK. Because yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. You're a segue earlier. Yes, you were a segue earlier. It was. And it was just going to be that maybe maybe some of your problems could be solved
Starting point is 02:13:00 if someone familiar with the heart of battle stepped stepped into the mission. So let's just get that one joke out of the way. So Ryu and Sakura are coming to Monster Hunter World. No. And after chasing the heart of battle, what it means to be strong, what is Ryu finally decided that he needs to pick up a sword and a gun and hide it, hunt a dinosaur? I mean, look, it makes sense.
Starting point is 02:13:26 We've got two big deals. I guess it's like they don't get cool Monster Hunter armor because they already get. Oh, would I want Ryu in another version? No, no, because that the appeal of the guest character is that they look like the guest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm I'm but you're you're close. It's not it's a thought. So I'm obviously more familiar with the way they do this in other games.
Starting point is 02:13:50 So here's the deal. Once you completely dominate everything in the base game, Capcom usually every single week puts out more what they're called event quests, which are special quests with either harder stuff or weird conditions or stuff to keep you going, even when you're done. Right. They also that's the screenshot. They also very, very regularly. It's real holding a gallon crossbow.
Starting point is 02:14:15 Yeah, they also very. It's them. Those are very regularly put out stuff like this. Currently, there is a Universal Studios Japan promotion ongoing with the game that if you I think you went to USJ during the Monster Hunter time period, they gave you a code for a quest where you could fight a tiny Jagras that gets you gear from Universal Studios Japan and American players can still get that quest.
Starting point is 02:14:37 But you have to search for active rooms to do it. Sakura looks way better with a bow. The horizon somehow. The horizon stuff, for example, the first two weeks are just for the Palico. And then that will end forever. And then like the costume thing for they're doing that with this stuff as well. Yeah. And then then Aloy's armor will come. Please give reminders.
Starting point is 02:14:58 I need to remember expect many of these kinds of crossovers. OK, yeah, yeah. I remember the news would be like, oh, my God, it's Strider and shit. There is one thing about this announcement or stuff that I know is going to upset people because of the way armor works in Monster Hunter. I have a very important question. And that is I think you're about to answer.
Starting point is 02:15:20 That is these costumes are assuredly going to be genderlocked. Like guy characters will be able to throw on the Ryu costume and girl characters will be able to throw on the Sakura costume, which is why these are the two characters that got picked because they're both Hadoken Shoryuken characters. So so here's the thing. One I want to know, are we looking at a normal character wearing Ryu's head, body and skin?
Starting point is 02:15:49 No. You're looking at there is an item. There is a special like item slot or whatever that is a glamour slot like the samurai pre-order thing. Yes, that you just equip it and your entire appearance like fables. You put on your glamour and your Ryu. So so so in this one, we're even going to come out. There will be an item that you equip. That's the Ryu item.
Starting point is 02:16:14 And when you equip it, you will become Ryu. And none of your other customers, all your other customizations will just disappear. Unfortunately, that's bullshit. And I'll still assume that it's a character wearing a Ryu skin. OK, everyone seems to disagree, Pat, but I'm not sure on what. So yeah, I'm everyone seems to disagree, but I'm not sure about what. The that's the channel.
Starting point is 02:16:38 Oh, they won't they won't be genderlocked. I have the unless they've said that. I don't believe that apparently. That's all. So then you're not where you. So I can't just put on Ryu's beef arms. No, on my character. Oh, you'll have you have to be all Ryu or no Ryu.
Starting point is 02:16:57 OK, all right. Down the dark muddy path is going to be coming out soon. By the way, Wolves, I know you had a lot of concerns about male versus female armor and I do go to Gaijin Hunter's YouTube channel. He has a fucking YouTube video that is him literally just going through every single female armor in the game. A lot of them are skimpy instead of bulky.
Starting point is 02:17:25 OK, the majority. OK, I like that step up because I was very disappointed by the preview. Well, you're probably going to get really disappointed because I saw like I told you, the because I know that's a big deal. Yes, it is. It is. I really don't like when my my bad ass, like, you know, Toku armor gets turned into like two piece bikini. Like that's that's not what I'm trying to do here.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Well, then the answer is, you know, I know that's like the massive exaggeration, but I'm just no, I mean, the flagship monster set is huge, bulky Viking armor for the male, and it is like a completely bare midriff and bare legs with like a shoulder set for the female. Friends told me that I can mix and match colors. Right. Barely. OK, you can change pigments, but what part of the thing actually dies is different.
Starting point is 02:18:18 Well, I might still end up doing a hybrid fashion hunter. You're fighting really hard to find the nuggets you want. Bro, what do you think? Like, I'm here for this. You know what I mean? I showed up. I have. You know, I'm showing up not enough. You're going to the different booths and just open it up your fridge. I'm looking it up your closet.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Like, what's going on in your closet? Here's the deal, Willie. If you're going to make a set in a high rank that's purely for fashion, your character is probably going to be spectacularly weak. OK, well, OK, like, it's fine. Like, there are two, there are two sets of armor. Alpha armor that has lots and lots of skills that make you a subclass. Yeah, beta armor that has way less skills,
Starting point is 02:19:02 but allows you to slot in whatever skills you want. If you used all beta armor, you would be able to kind of do that, but not based on fashion. I don't know what to tell you, Pat. I I I I have more fun when I like the way I look. Sure. But I'm like, I'm not. I'm trying to save you a shit ton of frustration by saying if you if you make your character purely along how they look with a mixed set to try and make
Starting point is 02:19:27 this on a female character, you are likely going to make a super shitty character that's bad. OK. That like if there's no and there's no glamour type of armor. There's no glamour transfer. There is, but it's only for very limited items like the samurai set or like Ryu and Sakura. Yeah, you can't you can't completely. You cannot blame yourself. There's a way to look at it.
Starting point is 02:19:46 Do you want to beat the monster or do you want to look cool and fail to beat the monster? Um. You you only you can answer this question, but it seems like it's one or the other. And I don't I'm going to have to the answer lies. When you do the battle, then you'll know in the heart of failure. In the heart of that moment of failure. I'll know my walls.
Starting point is 02:20:09 I'll link you to all the documentation you need for the armor sets. But like the the answer to this problem and it is a problem. Nobody likes the fact that you can't switch the armors, especially because they're even a guy players that hate or people play guy characters that don't like the bulky look. Yeah. Right. And the answer is change your character. So here's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Just the answer is what I'm going to do. Yeah, I'm going to play it so that I enjoy the way I look at all times because that's important to me. Uh huh. And when I hit the wall, I'll know what the problem is. What do you mean? When I run into the the oh, I can't beat this because I'm having problems. I need every ounce of buff I can take here.
Starting point is 02:20:50 Then I'll change what I need to change. All right. Because like it's it's because it's the kind of thing it's like your character is ninety nine percent going to be hidden behind your armor. If you really, really want those types of designs, play a guy character. No, but OK, but don't complain at me later that you hate the look when you could have easily just solved the problem. Remember not to complain.
Starting point is 02:21:13 I'm just I'm just saying that like I because like I said, I like helmet off too. You know, all right. But anyway, what I'm going to do is I'm going to do what I can. And and and if I run into a wall, then I'll know, all right, I got to start changing some things drastically for sure. But it's almost like in the, you know, it's almost like the L.P. sort of mentality in that weird way where it's like, are we moving forward? Is the story going? Did we get?
Starting point is 02:21:38 Yeah, we're good. We're good. Yeah, yeah, we're good. You know, so if I'm not having a massive problem with hitting walls of difficulty with the character that I make, then I guess I'll just continue. The recording session was progression made, absolutely dominated today. Sounds great. Did my job. So yeah, yeah, I'll give you an example. Right. Did we hit the credits? Sure did.
Starting point is 02:22:03 No, but really, the game has something to do with hitting. No, I know. I know. I know. I'm just I'm joking about. So this is the male Nergigante armor. Yes. Looks cool. Yes. It's bulky. It's Viking scroll to the right. Yeah. Here is the female Nergigante armor. Yeah, that's awful. Yeah. Well, that's but that's what you're going to end up with on almost all of those sets.
Starting point is 02:22:23 Right. So I'm going to have to. There are only that I saw like five or six of the whole game that are the kind of bulky thing that you still want. And those will pigeonhole you to very specific like type build types or whatever. Can I can I only have one safe purse per profile? That's right. Oh, no, no, wait, there's three save games that you can have.
Starting point is 02:22:47 But can I make two characters? Oh, you can you can make three characters. OK, absolutely. OK, I'm like, if you fucking told me that, like, no, you got to wipe your shit now, fuck you. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, I might just go back and make a male character. But I told you what my method of creation is generally, right? Like my method of creation when I go to make a character,
Starting point is 02:23:06 a lot of the times is can I make myself, right? Which is what a lot of people do. And the answer is some and almost always no. Yes. So go in, scroll through here, no dreadlocks, back out, select female, make character I feel like creating. All right. You know, so me, if not possible, then OC. And that's what happens here. Yeah. So my results, my, you know, went down to I have a female character now.
Starting point is 02:23:33 So, you know, like, if I have to back out and make a guy, I guess I can, but, you know, I think I said, like, I'll go for my fashion thing and then change my equipment if I start being unable to think. So the reason I'm so like adamant to try and yes, bring this. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because that's only going to happen to you when you're 40 hours in. Gotcha. In which case, I just need to go get a new set of armor. That's better.
Starting point is 02:23:59 Yes, but you may hate the way it looks. Yeah, OK. Like, you know, you know what I mean? Yeah, like, this is the kind of thing that will only hit you when you're so far in that you're like, well, fucking, I'm just going to stop. I don't hate like the Kieran armor. I think it looks fine. I like I enjoyed that. OK, but it's just it's not always what I kind of want to build. By the way, the cap community thing here, it says Ryu and Sakura,
Starting point is 02:24:18 full sets of armor can be equipped by both male and female. Oh, wow, that's surprising. And their voices change to match the characters. So their voices change as well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Their models look like rips, dude. It's super weird. Yeah. So no Casca, no Casca.
Starting point is 02:24:34 What? Why would Casca can't make a Casca in the character creator? Yeah, of course you can. I mean, with her armor, with her armor, you want actual Berserk DLC? Oh, like the nothing. No, no, I'm just I'm just saying, like, can I make a like, you know, armor wearing like there? There's a there are armor sets that look kind of like Casca's armor. OK, I mean, you know, it doesn't have to be like there's a there's a chain
Starting point is 02:24:58 male set spiritually. I'm just implying that type of that archetype of character, you know, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Or our Charlotte from our Hildi Hildi or Charlotte from Samurai Shodown. Yeah. Yeah, you there's a there's a set that looks somewhat like that. Well, Hildi is a great Segu because Matt. Yes, Hildi comes from the world of Soul Calibur and Maximilian
Starting point is 02:25:23 has brought us some details on Nikali Killik, Nikilik, Nikilik and Nikilik. Uh, so, yeah, Soul Calibur, six impressions. Max got to try it out and from the play for three hours. And and so we saw that we saw the trailer that introduced all the new characters and growing, edgelord, growl, growl. That's the thing. This game better have another system revealed.
Starting point is 02:25:53 That's called Edgelord mode. Edgelord. There are two words that are used in the series. Edgelord. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The dumber, the better. I agree. Uh, growl makes me feel the same things I felt about this way.
Starting point is 02:26:09 No, really? No, no, I was going to say it all. Oh, I was going to say the same. It's very similar to I know. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. Like one brother or something. No, one's a bare chested, kind of gruff looking dude that dark hair. And and the other is like their armors.
Starting point is 02:26:30 He's got a wolf stand. I don't know. That's not edgy, right? No, but I don't see like they don't look the same character, dude, one's an armored night type guy. The other dudes wearing clothes, you know, sure. He's like a brigand, if I guess, if you had to. I was going to say he reminds me a bit, though, of like
Starting point is 02:26:49 that the character from KOF 14 that wears the the headphones with the but the lights are the light side and dark side. Right arm, the red, red, armed, blue, armed guy, because that motif is very much main character from original game. Yeah. Right. And girl looks like main character from original RPG type game. He looks like a guest character from a game that doesn't exist. A tales of game, perhaps, right?
Starting point is 02:27:15 You know, like he's two swords splitting into light and dark. Come on, you know. So that's what I'm saying is. And I'm like, I'm like, I could not see Ein being the lead of anything. Like that's too much non. That's too much like eight, not normal, not default archetype, whereas grow feels like he could be, especially when you have light side, dark side, which edge am I going to be all of the edge?
Starting point is 02:27:40 But still, girl is cool. I like I like I do like him, but he definitely feels like main character from a guest. I very much like that. He's just soul caliber, Darth Maul. The next the next I think he should probably new character would make help me form a better opinion on grow. Because if the other characters like very similar to grow, like, let's say, like where we feel like it's no see from another game.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Yeah. Well, if it's like, like, I feel like the fact that he's like just kind of a young, pretty boy is like it hurts to design a little bit. I think it would have helped if he was like, maybe a little bit older. But I still think his style and his weapon is cool. I feel like the anyway, but the other details besides grow are pretty fun. The weapon armor breaking system is it's cosmetic entirely. And I was kind of like, yeah, OK, sure.
Starting point is 02:28:31 We get to see X in her lingerie. But pretty much it's a rookie. No, no shirt, right, rippling, right? But most importantly, nightmare, you break it open. And have you seen what he looks like underneath? Yeah, it looks like fucking secret. He looks like Soulcaliber to Siegfried. But that one cost me a transformation,
Starting point is 02:28:53 a.k.a. the reason why I like nightmare. That costume singlehandedly made me love that sound a little weird when he talks, when he's in Siegfried, because he has the nightmare voice. But he did back in two. Not. No, I don't find maybe it's been a while since I played, but I don't find as much like it's even. No, he did the souls come on to me with the normal. Maybe I'm mixing it with the implication was always that he always
Starting point is 02:29:17 just looked like that under the armor. And the only part that was like horribly deformed was the arm. Except later in the games where the are where the armor was hollow. Yeah, in which, yeah, three onwards. Yeah. So the going back to that semi-human mid transformation thing is so fucking good. Also, like I never liked nightmare or Siegfried as much as I liked nightmare into I hated the way they split their moveset.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Yeah, like either one got all the good stuff. Yeah. And it's like, no, I want that move with this. Yeah, I agree. I agree when I really used to like gin like gameplay wise, and they mixed them all up and gave them different movesets. And then just yeah, Mishima, gin versus demon. Well, that's why Devil Jin is still a thing. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:30:03 I don't like the like slash slash then screw spin combo. I want the slash slash then low pull up, you know. So anyway, I agree. I've always liked Siegfried's moveset better, but like nightmares, aesthetic, but whatever. So the system they explained here in six is the reversal edge system. And this is basically like the next level of clashes and injustice. Did you I don't know if you guys like got the breakdown of it?
Starting point is 02:30:33 I did not get the breakdown of reversal edge. So reversal edge is like rock, paper, scissors. It is. And it's a thing that like it definitely kind of slows the game down a little bit, but I've Max mentioned it and it's and it is true. You can see it in the game like it's probably not going to be a huge factor when you get good at this because faster than injustice. Injustice, I do kind of find the whole match stops, but it can last longer. And the reason why is because if you keep clashing, well, let me let me get through.
Starting point is 02:31:01 So you do the so you do the reversal edge, right? And what happens is your character does an oh my God, nightmare on the horse. Yeah. Nightmare on the horse is a super dark energy fucking incredible with the critical edge. So anyway, the reversal edge is you do a horizontal vertical swing. And if it hits, you go into this clash and you can choose one of many actions. You can choose a horizontal swing, vertical swing, you know, a kick, sidestep, the usual block, right?
Starting point is 02:31:29 All those things, right? But you're doing them in a rock, paper, scissors kind of way. So they're both clashing at the same time. If you both choose the same option, you clash and then back off for a second round. And then you choose another option and you come back in. If you clash, you come back in for a third and final round. And at that point, no matter if you clash at that point, after the third round, clashes results in the winner of the person who initiated it, winning the exchange.
Starting point is 02:31:56 OK, so it's possible to get into two stalemates by having you choose the same options or you both dodge and break off. And then you come back in for another round, right? So what do you get when you win damage? OK. So basically that rock, rock, paper, scissors round can last a while if you go through the whole like, whoa. But that's just like that's like a more intense version of tech ends. Like slow down, basically.
Starting point is 02:32:26 That's what even is, really. But you have but then at 50, 50 is the scenario, right? And that makes it so that the only thing the only thing that makes it like less than 50, 50 is you, depending on how much life you have, probably choosing to be more defensive versus me going on the offense because I can afford to take the hit, you know, like I saw someone initiate a clash in one of these videos and then they had like one like segment of life left towards the end.
Starting point is 02:32:54 They lost the clash and died. So the gamble to turn this into a rock, paper, scissors match meant they gave the round up, you know? So it's kind of a thing that you definitely don't really want to always do. And furthermore, because it's always a vertical slash, you can just sidestep it when you see them glowing red. Hey, can you explain to me what the fucking nightmare system is or whatever the hell that is?
Starting point is 02:33:15 Well, it's just killing. So it's not a nightmare system. It's just killing. Oh. And what it is. Everyone has a mode like that. But yes, it's the only one that gets like a transfer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone kind of has a V trigger. Yeah, everyone has a everyone has an instinct mode.
Starting point is 02:33:30 You can pop your your VT exactly and they get more damage. Temporarily for use of a bar. And I'm going to assume they have some form of visual signifier to that character. Soul charge. It's the soul charge. It's the same thing. You know the thing that's been in all the games where you go and then your next hit's a counter hit.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Yeah, and it's only last one fucking hit. Same thing as Tekken, right? The power up. It's that. But now it's not completely worthless in that way. Because it's the whole round. It's not the whole round. It's a limited period of time. But it has more buffs than just a counter hit.
Starting point is 02:34:02 Yeah, it gives you damage. It gives you a better character specifically for Killik. Like Killik does the most damage, but he loses health. Exactly. So the trade off is Killik goes into like massive glass cannon mode. So there might be other characters that have weird transmissions. Customs things. Yeah, but it's but it's a universal system where Killik's
Starting point is 02:34:22 version is super cool, especially special. And it changes his super. It changes his critical edge so that like Nikali, he does a more violent just like Nikali. He does a violent staff thing because Killik's regular critical edge is OK. It's it's not the best stuff combo, but his but his fucking powered up one is insane.
Starting point is 02:34:43 Yeah, but you're so the sparks are on over are fucking overdone. You know, and this this is like Soul Calibur doing the the weapon glowing fancy crazy shit to the maximum. And I feel like part of the art design here is like it's in the same way where if you want someone walking by to look at this and go, isn't that that tech end thing? Well, what happened? No, I just went like, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Someone walks by and goes, oh, yeah, well, someone's walking by and they they're not going to go. Is that that tech end game because you're seeing weapons and the weapons are always emphasized and glowing. So there's no way you're going to mistake the two for being the same. Right. So that seems to be what they're pushing here. So that was Killik's critical edge. He does this cool little staff combo.
Starting point is 02:35:25 But then when you do his nightmare version, the big, the big crazy version of this fucking massive jump into the sky. Oh, you've seen it. Yeah. It was in the trailer. Yeah. So it's a super rad fucking cool. Like, yeah, there you go. And it's a grab attack instead, like powers up the staff. It becomes a huge life.
Starting point is 02:35:43 He's doing a Dragoon jump. Easy to essentially. It looks like something out of a Warriors game. Yeah. A little bit. So, yeah, Soul Calibur six. Looks like I'm really like looking at all this now is like Mitsurugi and so if he did, just I think all is like, oh, two characters. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 02:36:02 But now that I'm looking, I'm like, yes, Killik is back. Like, please, no more stupid young characters to replace. The Soul Calibur two roster is the best of those. Soul Calibur two roster and add some new guys in. Yeah. Please get excited for Soul Calibur two, two. You good. Been waiting that for three games now.
Starting point is 02:36:20 But it's like a cinematic story mode, like the kind that was hinted at in five. But done so poorly. That's also what I really want. Patroclus is like the worst. Patroclus is the worst. Grown is white costume reminds me of Patroclus. Patroclus, whatever, just because he was a white
Starting point is 02:36:40 and he had a stupid bobcat on his shoulder. It's nice when the characters we like come back. Yeah. There's just like it's really hard to replace those characters with the exact same character, but not. Yeah. So like I hate it. Tekken three did it great. I think Street Fighter did it great.
Starting point is 02:36:57 Tekken three did a good job. I think that Soul Calibur fives new generation just being like shittier versions of the old generation. It was a bummer. They were just younger and. Well, whoever whoever the fuck that blonde girl is, they're replaced tacky. It's like that's nice.
Starting point is 02:37:14 When the characters we like come back. We said this before they know they know King of Fighters 14 confirms four DLC characters for set for April. And the first is fucking Oswald from KOF 11 have since since 11 only from 11 only. Yeah. Made such an impact. Came in, stole our hearts and left going. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 02:37:45 I've never been an Oswald fan, but I don't hate Oswald. He's cool. He's all right. He's old man dealer from the casino. It's a different fighting game gets a type of gets hired for the gig. I'm glad he's in a fighting in the KOF tournament. Lots of people. And he's like, yeah, I guess I know how to do a thing or two
Starting point is 02:38:05 with some cards and whatever he brings you to the wall. He makes Gambit look like a bitch. Fuck that. He's amazing, dude. Oswald shows that they know exactly who the people love and who they want it back because I know besides the obvious and like we are friends that this is an Oswald. Yes, you know, being so excited for this. But like we all kind of were like,
Starting point is 02:38:29 that's a really good original character. It would be a shame to never see them again. Yeah, I mean, it's what we were saying about like Gato and then they caught on to Gato being a thing. And then they brought Gato in 2K3. Exactly. You know, so that was it. Like it was really nice to see. I'm also really glad this is like a pack because for the longest
Starting point is 02:38:48 time, I think we're all under the assumption that it was going to be like the community character. And maybe that was it. But I'm glad they're just doing the four pack again. Yeah, I know basically two of them. But if we get lucky, we might even we might even get some other characters. Who would you want aside from now that Oswald's in? Is there someone else?
Starting point is 02:39:07 Shen fucking Wu. Shen Wu. My boy. Shen Wu. My boy, Shen Wu. Like I told you, team boxers. Nelson is already in Nelson Shen Wu, Vanessa. Vanessa is my number one pick to get in. She's she's already in right there. Well, that's how much I paid attention.
Starting point is 02:39:29 She was in. She was right in the train. No, put her in. She was right there. Don't worry about it. Ralph, of course, is my boy. But I mean, Shen would be a very well. It should be the last character should be a fucking maximum impact. Oh, dude, it should be Alba Alba.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Might a swatting made by the picking. Oh, God, what's what's the what's the lady that's like a bumblebee? It has the mass of Yabba's yellow jacket. I don't know her name. Oh, God, that Louise Meading Meading. Yeah, yeah, there's the butterfly girl. The magic girl that Terry L. G's asset. Wait, isn't she Louise Meading?
Starting point is 02:40:15 Yeah, she's Louise Meading. And then the spy girl is something else. Oh, the little girl that's always sniffing her fingers. Yeah, Neville. That is the and then you've got the the maximum impact characters are awesome. Rule 63 Falcud. Yeah, Duke, Duke, Duke was the boss.
Starting point is 02:40:37 She's back. You can't do it. She's back. But this stuff it was. And then there was like the girl that make lucky Chloe look like Vanessa. Oh, by bitch. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're super bouncy idol.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Not to look at them. Yeah, yeah, she was she was at her footsteps, none on. Yeah, none on are known. No, no, me, no, no, Ninon Barrett, Ninon. Yeah, was the was the gothrally version fucking and Mignon. Mignon, Mignon, Barrett. And when she walked her feet made little boink, boink, boink. Sound effects. Mignon, Mignon.
Starting point is 02:41:19 So good. Yes, absolutely. But let's not forget, of course, that in fucking kill KOF, maximum impact regulation, they brought back Misa Gucci with his Tiger bazooka that so I think I think there's a lot of pics. I agree. There's Jay Lim. Jay Lim was cool. Yeah, she was Jay Lim was the the Kim Kapwan cousin, our niece, I think.
Starting point is 02:41:48 But there was also May Lee, who was the proper Kim Kapwan style girl that was also Kamen Rider fucking Kamen Rider. So Jay Lim Naga say was the little spy girl that sniffed her fingers say spy girl. No, you mean the ninja? Well, the yellow ninja girl, she's a ninja. Yeah, sure. OK. Yeah. And she had Hattori Hanzo's moves and she was Falcoon Rule 63.
Starting point is 02:42:16 Yeah, OK. You're right. Because the hair. Yes. He designed himself as a girl and made him a ninja because his favorite character is Hattori Hanzo. Don't forget, this game also was all the one that created Nightmare Geese or was he in Nightmare Geese? No, Nightmare Geese was from before that. OK, I wasn't sure. The yeah, man, there's a lot you can pull from there. I agree. You can even pull the hyena.
Starting point is 02:42:37 The Red Dose. I just saw his name. Yeah, you can you can do that if you want. Yeah. But there's also a dual lawn, right? Or that other weird or anti-dual lawn guy from the earlier games. Forget his name. The poison guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck. And he was baldy. Yes, not not lawn lawn.
Starting point is 02:43:01 No, lawn was the other dude that he killed. I'd like Mr. Big. Mr. Big's cool. Mr. Big's cool. You can be on criminal team. Yeah, I want like a weird art of fighting character hasn't been anything in a long time. Mr. Big at least got into like eleven or something before that. Or he's in Battle Colosseum.
Starting point is 02:43:19 Mr. Big Lynn, it was Lynn. Yeah, it was Lynn. That's correct. Right. He was always a fucking sick ass ninja. Anyway, so yeah, there's a million picks. We can go. So, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of picks they can go with. But I do think they're looking at the silhouettes that they've teased. It looks like also Oswald's on the left.
Starting point is 02:43:41 And then there's a shape and there's some hands up in the air. That shredded piece of clothing on the side has to be the Saudi Arabian care. Yeah, yes, part of a design. Yeah. So it's it's whoever's doing that. It's that guy that's in the middle that I think is ever doing that post. Oh, it's clearly Duck King. That's too tall, too tall to be. You see all the fucking art people have made that they're just managing
Starting point is 02:44:03 to draw in like 10 characters. Yeah, or one person doing the Yuri post could be that could be Lawrence. Lawrence Blood does poses like that. Yeah, who's that for for me? You know, Lawrence Blood. What if one of them is Godamus? No, one of them. Yeah, yeah. One of them is Godamus and one of them is Laocorn.
Starting point is 02:44:26 Yeah, one of them is Sulea. I think Freeman would be a rad pick. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Mark of the Wolves character would be good, too. Right. That'd be a really good pick. Kevin Ryan. Yeah, I agree. Don't do this. Don't get the doors.
Starting point is 02:44:40 You can't yell at me for stepping in. Marko. I'm just asking you politely not to Kevin Ryan. No, I can Kevin Ryan. Marko Rodriguez. You mean Cushwood, but I mean, Marko Rodriguez. His worldwide name will be changed to Cushwood. It would be just to just to with the little copy right at the end. That's right. Like Dragon Ball. Now you can't say the other thing, but it's pretty wide.
Starting point is 02:45:00 So I don't think he's in there. Yeah, no. But anyway, man, exciting, very, very. And I have a meeting to get back in the 14. And they also at Evo Japan, they announced that they're bringing KF 97 online. I mean, that's so weird. They're they're releasing KF 7.
Starting point is 02:45:28 OK, KF 97, KF 97 Global Match is going to be a thing. Because it's 98 that got a big 98 is 98 is like the Street Fighter 2. Yeah, it's the like. Well, you know what? That's stupid to say because the years don't add up at all. But the point is is 98 was the biggest was the first. Holy shit, because 97 is a very good game, very good game. But it was 98 was your I guess you're super turbo.
Starting point is 02:45:55 I have a lot of nostalgia for 95 for some reason. Sure. It's the first one I play. But just gameplay wise, you know, 98 was what it got to. It's unlimited match and all that peak solidity. Well, yeah, they released it for those. That's what you mean by Street Fighter 2. I released it multiple times and even did like kind of a remake. I find this very odd.
Starting point is 02:46:13 It was just it was just the best feeling system up until that point. I find this very odd because I've never heard anyone be like, oh, yeah, 97. Oh, for no, no, no, no, dude, that's not true. I said I I have not heard. Yeah, no, everyone that I have ever talked to is like, oh, yeah, 98 or 2002. No, 97 has a lot of you know, has a lot of you know, specifically, there's one motherfucker there. It's like, yeah, they're releasing new wave.
Starting point is 02:46:40 It's not 97 to 98 is a little bit of that like Sonic 2, Sonic 3 people or Mega Man 2, Mega Man 3 people. Right. There's a little bit of that going on where it's like, you know what? I'm not going to fight you on this. You just had access to what you had access to. Yeah. But it's a better game. It's a little bit of that, you know. But if you're going on Athena outfits, then, you know, take your pick.
Starting point is 02:47:06 Take, take Goddess Athena. Uh, Artemis. All right. There's lots of kids. There's lots more kids. There's there's there's getting Mercedes Benz and then there's Jammin and get all of them in there. As long as it means Paul Dobson gets work, he would. So there this weekend, there was the
Starting point is 02:47:30 Taipei Game Show. Where the fuck is that? Oh, right. I mean, I heard the type a game show Taipei. Yeah. And where the fuck is it? Yeah. And we there were a bunch of trailers and offscreen footage that popped up, including stuff from like Valkyrie Chronicles for Super Robot Wars X code vein. So more of your animated Dark Souls.
Starting point is 02:47:55 You see that fucking interview where the designers are like, we tried not to make the game so anime looking. Did they fail? They didn't really succeed at that. Artists are literally talking about how they've made their gameplay wise. They made all the design so that it wouldn't be too anime. And then it shows the concept art in which the characters don't look to anime. And then it cuts to gameplay footage of these anime motherfuckers running around
Starting point is 02:48:18 doing animation. I'm like, what happened? They got overruled. I mean, you look at the gameplay, though, and it's like dark and it's kind of shady. It's like, it's when you look at the characters. It's just their heads straight on. It's it's not even they're carried the bodies. It's just somebody somebody higher up in the chain said,
Starting point is 02:48:33 fuck, you put some anime eyes on that. Why isn't that Kirito? I want my Kirito. Anime, it's really funny. And the bosses still reflect whatever dead serious, you know, art style. So yeah. Evil Miku, Sandra and Kagura boss, sword art, online fatal bullet, shadow of the Colossus. Got I looked at the making of videos.
Starting point is 02:48:57 Yes, those are great. Yeah, you see how much work they put in, dude. It's a lot. They're it's like scratch. Like the apology game. I also watched a footage of the guy taking down the third Colossus and I want about 30 seconds and I'm like, oh, they fixed the problem. OK, controls are fine.
Starting point is 02:49:14 They're making you want to elaborate on that? So in Shadow of the Colossus for PS3, for whatever reason, they used a version of the game that had screwed up, grabbed controls in that your characters in Ursa when hanging on to things was very low and you could be flung around a lot more easily and it took way more stamina to do certain things. And it just feels bad. I was talking to someone on Twitter because I had mentioned this,
Starting point is 02:49:41 but I just said, man, this this this remake is the apology game for the HD version. Someone's like, why? I'm like, I'd never played it. Why? I'm like, oh, because of that exact thing you mentioned. It's it's like the first Colossus, you go to you go to like do the rest on the first platform and him moving around locks you all the way off unless you fucking grab onto something.
Starting point is 02:50:01 And it's just like, oh, this sucks. It's it's kind of it's kind of difficult to explain if this is not coming through. But I mean, people who I put a lot of fucking time to that original. I got all the time attacks. I did all of it. And it's the kind of thing that's like you pick it up and you feel how you climb around on it and you go, this is wrong. This is bad. OK.
Starting point is 02:50:22 And it also makes the game substantially more difficult because it's a lot harder to just hold on. Wow, that final one must be fucking impossible then with a harder climate. No, it's it's it's completable. It's just that I don't know if the time trials in some cases are complete. OK, because the time trials required you to do the hard time trials required you to do them like perfectly. It's like, I don't even know how I would do them the same way or if they're they're possible.
Starting point is 02:50:49 Maybe that's me just sucking. But like just holding onto a monster's head is it thrashed around? Your stamina just goes one of the most birds for scale. One of the most impressive things about them about the making of videos on the new SOTC as well is that the method they're using to make this game is the same that a fan game would use to remake a game. They're basically like just taking the original and like frame by framing it and going, we can make that look a lot nicer.
Starting point is 02:51:20 A little bit there, a little bit that, but they're redoing everything. It's not like taking the assets and then bumping up textures. It's absolute complete scratch. They still have like the animation data and they're just like working around the skeleton. It sounds like it. But even then, if there's a little bit, they can improve here or there. They're doing so, you know, like there's so much of this that is just being right away before it gets you.
Starting point is 02:51:42 Ah, they got so much of this. It's been a wonder. It did. It always gets them. There's so much of this is being like eyeballed, you know what I mean? They're just kind of like squinting at it and going, yeah, and then holding up a pencil and like going, eh, eh, got it. And then redoing it and making it look glorious. So fuck, yeah, to shadow the colossus.
Starting point is 02:52:03 Very unfortunate news due to SNK heroines. Did you see? Which one? Nakeru is now in it. Nakeru is now in the game. So the Morgan of SNK. I have a question. Why in the footage that we are looking at are all these girls' faces is blurred out? Because that's the thing that is filming people's faces is never frowned upon in Japan.
Starting point is 02:52:25 It is. And I wish some prominent YouTuber. Is this not in Taipei? And it is. It is. And there's also a let's let's let's put that against all Asian countries. Then maybe that's all a golden. And I what I can't figure out is why it applies to the cardboard cutout of Leona with the cat ears. Yeah, why is that not OK? Customization thing.
Starting point is 02:52:46 Who knows? Everyone's faces are blurred. And you know what? It's a very familiar blur to me. I've seen in many Japanese videos. Why are they blurring that guy's face out? I'm clear. Is the game just so lewd that you can't have your face out near it? But but you can look at the game. I mean, look at the game. No one signed with release waivers.
Starting point is 02:53:04 I think that's I think that's what. Oh, is that all? But you're but you're doing the show. They're fucking the blur. Oh, my God, this is the laziest blur anyway. SNK heroines. This is a visual bit. Oh, man. Is going to be a thing. And now Nakaruru's in it.
Starting point is 02:53:19 Because why wouldn't she be? Because she's one of SNK's most popular girls. And I think she's in a lot of games. I'm not sure how popular she is the morrigan. It I do I feel you and I hate it. But it's what it is. Nakaruru is the most popular samurai showdown character. I don't like it as much as you.
Starting point is 02:53:40 I thought it's a setting. Juro was the most popular samurai showdown girl. Why isn't he in its upsetting in that way? But at the same time, I don't completely hate it because. She's in it. I don't like more again expected it. Unlike Morgan, Nakaruru has a completely unique style of fighting. And she uses a fucking bird as an assistant. She's also actually fun to play.
Starting point is 02:54:03 Exactly jumping off the bird and using it. It's not it's very atypical. So I can't it's just like she's been in every game. Yeah, Dynasty Warriors 9, Dragon's Crown Pro. So, you know, video games, stuff. Yeah, I'm sure Jim Sterling like came in his pants. We saw that Dynasty Warriors 9 stuff. Yes, I fucking hate that series.
Starting point is 02:54:26 Did you see the footage of House of the Dead? I did not. So it is astounding, graphically. Zombies now pile up onto each other like in World War Z. That's dope. That's super cool. Graphically, the characters are amazing. Oh, I did see this. Yeah, you're right. But the voice acting is worse than it's ever been.
Starting point is 02:54:48 It's just it's amazing. It's astonishing and it's awful. Can't wait, Crimson Shroud or whatever. I hope round ones get that. I don't know if there's a line in there that's as bad as like or there are pillows or a large sword or whatever. But yeah, you're in a helicopter and you're looking down like 10, like 20 feet onto the ground.
Starting point is 02:55:07 And there's like this arm of zombie bodies that are reaching up and pulling the helicopter down. It's incredible. Wow. Well, what's Sega going to do next? Maybe hopefully make a profit. I would like a virtual cop. Virtual cop. It's like a virtual.
Starting point is 02:55:23 I would love for them to announce a virtual and then you're like, cool. And it says cop. I'd be really happy with it. You'd be happy with that. No, it sounds you don't nearly get angry. Come on, guys. Sounds like they are trying to make a profit.
Starting point is 02:55:36 And what better better better way to do that than to strap yourself. Strap yourself. You know, that's not true. Strap yourself to a name that has a brand with value. Yeah. A brand. Like Quantic Dream. Oh, wow. Sega Europe is going to be publishing.
Starting point is 02:55:57 But it's not Quantic Dream. It's from a former member. Former member. This is not Quantic. You know, I wonder why they're former. I click baited you. Don't click bait me with your voice. This is Interior Night, a new studio from former
Starting point is 02:56:11 Quantic Dream lead Caroline Marshal that just opened up last year. And Sega Europe has agreed to publish narrative driven IPs that they make. OK. OK. So Quantic Dream without the head with a headless Quantic Dream and it could be, you know what I mean? Like a headless horseman style.
Starting point is 02:56:30 I'm I'm I'm very on board for that because then we know because if this game sucks, too, then it's a group shit effort. But if this game is really good, you're like, I have my hopes. I have my hopes for that. I remember Wonder Book. Jesus. Once you cut the head off. Could you imagine if maybe success comes? Imagine if there was a fucking like asshole boss
Starting point is 02:56:50 in this called David. No, I can't imagine. Yeah, or or just like EGAC, you know, that's yeah. Yeah, maybe, maybe again. Hopefully good things come from your beheading. Hopefully it's quite the state state. Oh, that's right. It's also a hell of a statement that like three months
Starting point is 02:57:12 after you found the studio, you get backed by a major publisher. That's what everyone kind of hopes for. You haven't had a single thing on the body. Not everyone, but nothing on the market yet. But you just you talk to the right people and they have the right faith in you. I'm striking out and you're like, I'm going to make my own studio. Like it's like really dicey today.
Starting point is 02:57:31 So unless unless you're, you know, well, dicey Kojima. See, because he won't know. I don't get it. Because if he if he, well, whatever, if when Kojima made Kojima Productions, the fucking house was like, how much money do you want? That's the your yeah, your Kojima. But it seems like they got a pretty decent deal here
Starting point is 02:57:51 for not being Kojima. So that's pretty cool. Um, God of War, April 20th, I still no card for. I guess we're just going to have to say that the game is just called God of War. Yeah, it's called God of War, man. Fucking been called. I was waiting for a subtitle of some kind.
Starting point is 02:58:08 Yeah, it's called. OK, fine. Here's your subtitle. God of War 420. The problem with having a subtitle is that many of them have subtitles now. Blaze it in your edition. Three other games have subtitles. Yeah, Ascension, Ghost of Sparta and like Chains of Olympus. My favorite part about this is that one, the pre-orders for this went up
Starting point is 02:58:27 like PSN essentially just fell apart. OK, so then we should play this. We agree that calling it God of War is a dumb idea. Yeah, yeah, I don't agree that at all. But OK. Oh, really? I don't mind. Oh, you're OK with this games being named the same thing a little bit later? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 02:58:46 Oh, I hate that. OK, I don't mind, I thought. Dude, God of War 1 is a PS2 game. I know. It's like 15 years ago. When it's in my lifetime even, it's like, fuck. Like I like when a movie comes back from like the 50s, you know what I mean? Like if someone go like Metropolis, you know what? No one's going to complain about Metropolis getting turned into an anime. Does it really subtle like where it's like we're not Blade Runner 2?
Starting point is 02:59:12 We're not going to call ourselves that. We're Blade. Yeah. Yeah, but it's thematically correct. I also hated it when Prince of Persia did it. Because it's just, yeah, exactly. It's Prince of Persia now. Prince of Persia, the darkness of Arama or Prince of Persia, Nathan Drake. Like it feels it feels like, you know, and it feels like there's a
Starting point is 02:59:29 a thing towards like taking the name back and going, no, we're reinventing it from scratch kind of thing. That's why I wouldn't grab it. But it's still a product that exists. Then they're like, fuck you. This one's four. Yeah. It was they had a gravitas. And I know that I think that if anything has to do with taking the name back,
Starting point is 02:59:48 it's like, we're hey, Gears, fuck off. We're going to be the G.O.W. game. Sure. Sure. Sure. People say G.O.W. They're going to be God of War. Not fucking Gears of War. Final fight is going to take back F.A. Not a fatal fury is something to say about it.
Starting point is 03:00:08 A little Don chops on them. I'm just saying, like, like, yeah, you know, and it's it's not. It has nothing to do with the quality of the game. It's just your choice and titling it. And yes, this 100 percent applies to the good things we like by on a commando. Ninja Gaiden, doom. These are all things. This is still a sequel. It is.
Starting point is 03:00:26 It's a soft reboot. It is killer instincts. Yes, killer instincts. Yes, that's one too. Is it a soft sequel? Seaboot. It was still kind of a sequel. Those were killer instinct. Three would have been fine. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that game being called.
Starting point is 03:00:38 I three. But that's the thing that bothers me about when they just retitle something to just be the name, because it means marketing was like, oh, people are going to think, well, I don't know, I got a one to three. So I may be maybe numbers might scare people. So I should mention this. I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast, but when Witcher three got announced, you remember that it was called Witcher three?
Starting point is 03:00:59 Like that was its only title. Yeah. And then CD Projekt was looking at preorder numbers and did a bunch of focus groups and realized that they had a story focused RPG that most people had not played the first two games and were thus not going to buy the third one and were flipped their shit. So they changed the name to the Witcher, the Wild Hunt, and the three became hidden in the art in the box art. And oh, look at that.
Starting point is 03:01:27 All of a sudden, people weren't as hesitant to buy the Witcher, the Wild Hunt. Is that proven? Yes. They they thought that is the explicit reason they did it. And it seemed to work very well for them. That's totally a thing, which is a slightly different case, because the first one was it like it was word of mouth that's slowly built. And it's also a gas game for weirdos. Assassin's Creed is moving away from numbers because their numbers are getting up there.
Starting point is 03:01:52 Right. And also the long term plot in those games doesn't matter. Yeah. So like Assassin's Creed seven. Yeah. It's like, hey, kids, what do you like? You don't have to worry about Sonic the Hedgehog. It all starts at Sonic the Hedgehog. So also like, say, God of War, right? Since he's in Viking land now, like the events of the former games are almost nonessential.
Starting point is 03:02:12 Other than, hey, you were an asshole and you killed a bunch of gods in your bad ass. And you're a god also. And that's it. That like you could you could do a Star Wars text crawl and Mario stopped using numerical numbers by three. Because what it was just terms of worlds. Yeah. And what because what ends up happening is we just say God of War 2019.
Starting point is 03:02:36 You know, actually, what I do is I say God or 2018. And if I mean to talk about the original, I say God of War one. Sure. Oh, our Xbox one. Yeah. Remember, and then that worked out because they fucking, you know, like it's stupid. Anyway, I that's Xbox's fault. The thing that I hate is that, like, yes, you know, upon further like discussion, the marketing reasons are valid and that they don't want people that are new to be scared calling it the God of War helps even that that's like
Starting point is 03:03:09 when they call the second Wolverine movie, the Wolverine like that. Dude, you're like you're super right. There's a even throwing of the is fine. There's a more recent example. Absolutely. The reason why Monster Hunter World is called Monster Hunter World and not Monster Hunter five is for that exact reason. Yeah. It's a high number. They talked about it. It's like, oh, there's people that are like, oh, I never played the other games.
Starting point is 03:03:32 Maybe I won't like this one because I didn't know. But, you know, that that's a super real thing and it sucks. No, and there's no. Yeah, I agree. There is no way to fight that numbers, you know, our numbers. And that's the reason why we got the Xbox 360 and the Xbox and the only number three is not as low as there is one way to beat that. And the way to beat that is to have a dynasty mythical franchise that has gone on for so long that people have played some of them.
Starting point is 03:03:59 Guaranteed like resident evil, like Final Fantasy Final Fantasy can get away. It doesn't have to worry about numbers. But like Final Fantasy now revels in its number and its numbers. Exactly. It's like 16 fuckers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This shit will never die. Yeah. 100 percent. We're here. We'll be here forever. The idea, though, that like you're you're at some point, I guess. I guess four is the embarrassing number.
Starting point is 03:04:26 Yeah. Right. And fillers are normal. Yeah. Trilogy's are normal, but four is the point of shame. Oh, you you went past your trilogy. Hmm. You need me and still need a little bit more money. Huh? Retirement's not too good. Kind of have to have to have to come out. Social security not working out.
Starting point is 03:04:41 See, when lawbreakers gets its fourth game, it's not going to be lawbreakers for. It's going to be breaking the law's law. Lawbreakers. Wolf. Oh, man. Hey, you see, and did you see that Marvel versus Capcom Infinite on PC joined the ranks of like lawbreakers this weekend? That's it's down to like 40 people. OK, OK. So Marvel's going to go nowhere. I guess I guess I should tell the story.
Starting point is 03:05:08 You should tell the fucking story that I don't know about. But I was excited when I when I wanted to get some gameplay footage of fighters, I brought it out to the meetup and we played some local casuals. And I wanted to record footage and I needed space on my PS4. And the only way to make space on my footage for it to the PS4 was to lead to leave Marvel because deleting Marvel Infinite, it was fifty two gigs. And it's like, all right, I your mother fucking life ends now, Marvel. And it like the spiritual like
Starting point is 03:05:45 significance of that moment was just so fucking sad. You know, nothing else you couldn't do it while there was, but I was nothing else that I wanted. There were there were games that he was going to play that he could delete. There you go. Um, also, because ArcSys knows how to make a fucking game and size it properly, because Marvel is fifty two gigs for what? For these shitty textures and bad models.
Starting point is 03:06:09 What are you doing, guys? What are you doing? ArcSys games are fucking small. Monster Hunter is 15 gigs. It's crazy. That makes sense. It's crazy that Marvel is is that big. You know, I have not I've not seen a game killed so utterly by its competitor than this. Like it's Marvel has been killed by DBZ.
Starting point is 03:06:33 And I feel bad for Max, especially, because I feel like Max is the only person that was like fighting that good fight and being like, he was a marvel, though. No, I was I was playing it. And no, but he wasn't out. He I wasn't I wasn't campaigning for people to buy it. No, and telling people how great it was because it is a fun game to play. But it's their own fault.
Starting point is 03:06:52 It's their own fault. I still stand by it. That tax system is genius. Yeah, it's their own fault. Hey, when I played it a little bit when I bought it, I had fun. But then I was like, everything looks like shit. And DBZ looks like it's way more fun. And then I played DBZ and DBZ is way more fun. It's just way more fun.
Starting point is 03:07:09 It also looks really nice. Isn't that nice when you're fighting it looks like looking nice is nice. Yeah, it's nice to look nice. Nice things are nice, man. Anyway, I love that. I'm going to stand by that and say that, like, you scare the scaring away of people can be mitigated with the yeah. Or yeah, around four, you start using words because numbers are embarrassing.
Starting point is 03:07:29 I like when four, it's getting embarrassing. Four is where you shame. The shame comes in. You know, all of these are like distinguished, nice, round things come in three acts. Yes. You know, so the whole plot of around this seems to be that Kratos' kid is starting to freak out because he's a little baby God of war. Yep. And that was an unintended side effect that Kratos is a dumbass
Starting point is 03:07:49 and didn't think about. So, you know what the solution of this would have been calling it gods of war. Gods of war would have been good to either option. So back in the beginning of the conversation, I was trying to say, what would you suggest? Right. Yeah. And you both just killed it. Yeah. Well, I hadn't thought of it then. Those two, the God of war and or gods of war are both.
Starting point is 03:08:15 Leaps and fucking bounds better. What? What? Then no change at all. What about God of the war? What about war of God? Oh, no, no, I got it. What about Mark of the God of the war? How about War of War? War of Gods would be a good name or God's War of the God's done it.
Starting point is 03:08:49 Yeah. How about gore? OK, well, what about gow initialize it to death? This is stupid shit we're doing right here. Gow, you've been playing that hot new gal. Or you can just or you can pull up Tomb Raider and just call it Kratos. Fucking would call it Rocky Balboa Rocky. So I didn't notice this in the first trailer because Kratos didn't talk all that much.
Starting point is 03:09:22 But in this one, you actually get to hear him talk a lot more. And I realized that his his voice actor is Tealke from Stargate. Yeah, they announced that like I don't know that guy's name. So when did when did Phil Amar drop off? I think it's you mean when he never played. Oh, my God, it was never him. Come on, it was his his his voice actors like a big tall ripped black guy. Yeah, like he looks he looks like was that just another thing.
Starting point is 03:09:47 Skin that because he was like AC Carson. No, yeah, I think that was just the thing that I thought it was him and that I never looked it up. And then that was that because it was Chris Judge, Chris Judge. Yeah, I fucking love Chris Judge. He's great. He's he's demob. Also, right.
Starting point is 03:10:06 This is this is the ultimate final incontrovert in controversial things like Kratos is a black guy, for sure. They keep getting black dudes to voice him. He's a black guy. The original guy was Terrence Carson. Yeah, Carson and then eventually they replaced him with Chris Judge. Right. Chris Judge is so fucking cool and fucking Stargate.
Starting point is 03:10:28 Stargate is you want so good. Yeah, we didn't get to it, but it was whatever. There's the DLC link leaks, possibilities for Dragon Ball and whatnot. Those came from Nebula sources, but they seem legit. Yeah, maybe. And then like, I don't know how legit this is, but there's like a little like that. It seems like it's unclear. Like data mining is one thing.
Starting point is 03:10:47 These models of original Vegeta are another the possibility that we might be getting. I guess what original Vegeta looks like shit because the possibility that there's going to be original Vegeta and original Goku, you know, as a thing. But I feel like Ultra Instinct Goku would be another would be a higher shot of showing up than original. Well, the four characters listed there are of the DLC data mine.
Starting point is 03:11:08 There are eight characters in that season pass. Yeah. So I'm going to just I'm going to say, I think those four Broly, Bardock and base form Goku and Vegeta are totally going to be in it. And I think that the other four DLC characters that come later are going to be Jiren Toppo is his fucking name. It has to be a female saying I'll call it. Call Kefla.
Starting point is 03:11:36 So here's the thing. I think Kefla is like like was much more likely to show up. I mean, if the data mining says what it says, Broly, then Broly. But I feel like Kefla would be a higher chance if they had to like choose one or the other because there's no girls in this game. Yeah, there's two androids and they're androids. Yeah. Chichi not going to happen.
Starting point is 03:11:58 Sucks. But oh, well, I have the female sayings like no. Lunch, if Plague had his worlds, if he had the seven dragon balls, the lunch would be in the game. The launch isn't in a game. So that can happen. I think that who would be the last one? Probably fucking Jenenba. Sure, I would love to be on.
Starting point is 03:12:15 I don't think everyone fucking sad bags. Tapion when I talk about because I'm trying to think of the fucks from the tournament of power, right? And I'm just like, honestly, Vigito, Vigito. I think another fusion would be good. Yep. Vidal is getting sandbags. Watch everybody get hurt.
Starting point is 03:12:32 Fucking pissed when it's Roshi, Mr. Satan or Mr. Yeah, Mr. Vidal, Roshi, Mr. Satan kind of feel like like solid. Yeah, get those guys in there. Get those guys in the jetpack, though. I can't imagine Satan could.
Starting point is 03:12:46 They'd have to have a jetpack. Because because half the systems in the part of me, part of me wants to say like, we've got sayings. We're doing it. It's fine. Check out this, but check out the new tier list. Fucking Mr. Satan's a hard counter to fucking Jiren on point. How nuts is that?
Starting point is 03:13:02 Is this the new cannon? Because he throws grenades instead of key blasts. You can't fly through them. Yeah, I'm about that. All right, let's take some emails real quick. If you have an email, send it to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. That's the one. That's superbestfriendcastatgmail.com.
Starting point is 03:13:23 It's a lot of music coming from a wall somewhere. Yeah, wall music. Don't worry about that. I tested it. It does not pick up. Wall music has been happening quite a bit. There's a club inside our office now. Hey, guys, what do you think the chances that Marvel gets taken off the spot at Evo for DBFC 100 percent this year?
Starting point is 03:13:43 No, next year, maybe there, Mr. Wizard, making his tweets about is Marvel dead after the that's 100 percent of the paddle for the stone. No, that happened. Wait, what? Mr. Wizard made a tweet after Battle for the Stone saying is Marvel dead. Yeah, no, I know that.
Starting point is 03:14:00 And then Chris G went on the ramp. Yeah, Matt, did you see that rant by Chris G? Yeah, the long story short. Yeah, I know Mr. Wizard said that stuff about the game, but I can't imagine only after one. Wait, was it it would never get to Evo is what you're saying to me because it wasn't at this one, the one that it was a Capcom cup. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 03:14:21 That was the battle for the stones was the was the major for it because it wasn't out there. There's no way that they would dare to because if everybody to one Evo, if everybody wants Dragon Ball, then Mr. Wizard and the Cannon Brothers are going to give them dragon. I'm going to roll this conversation back a little bit because people probably don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Long story short is a Chris G won on a rant about Capcom cup
Starting point is 03:14:46 because apparently the handling of Marvel Capcom cup was atrocious. And all those complaints. Simultaneous to PSX, mind you. And the second thing is Mr. Wizard, one of the organizers of Evo goes up online, is Marvel fucking dead? Let me know. And it's like that that is like like that felt like revenge for the way they treated Marvel and like just thumbing Capcom in the eye.
Starting point is 03:15:09 I am I will be your completely right. Like the Evo organizers, they want to know two things. One, are people going to show up to play it? And two, are people going to show up to watch it? The end. So what I think you have that you have to have that they're wants to even gauge that or you have a poll on the grandest stage. That's the only I would say that you don't actually need that
Starting point is 03:15:33 because the metric of signups at every tournament happening from last weekend till Evo is your interest. You see it, right? So the cool thing about the FGC is every week you get a data poll of how popular games are by just talking to TOS and going how many signups, right? That tells you how popular your game is. And it's it's awesome, right?
Starting point is 03:15:57 Data and stats are ripe in the FGC. But I just can't imagine the game would never be at. It's hard to imagine, but we've also never been in a situation where a Marvel game has come out and tanked immediately. And we've never been in a situation where an arxist game that has the potential to take the fuck over regular Marvel won the fan vote to be at Evo, this one that got passed. I don't believe that one.
Starting point is 03:16:24 I don't know. I think it was a given slot. I think it was a given slot of one the fan vote. I don't remember. So here's what I think is going to happen. I think that DBZ will be at Evo. Period. Yeah. Whether or not it takes Marvel's spot is actually it's the main stage is the only question.
Starting point is 03:16:41 I think I think that BlazBlue and Revelator are still popular enough that they would also beat Marvel, right? Well, one or the other or both even. I think the question is actually which Marvel game is going to be played at Marley? Yeah, because I think I think three ultimate has a way higher chance of showing up at Evo than then. It would be though.
Starting point is 03:17:05 It would be it would be game play wise. Like, yes, it is. But again, the watching part and all that stuff. Watching party. Keep forgetting. Like, you have to understand how much like what he said, who's going to play it? Who's going to show up to watch it? They're not going to run a fucking tournament.
Starting point is 03:17:20 It doesn't matter with people in it. And it doesn't matter how weird it feels that it wouldn't get a shot because anime games have come out and have never been on the main stage. Yeah. Right. Persona comes out without, you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, they come out. That's a really cool game. Awesome. What it's but it's persona. That's not going to be, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:17:38 Like, you just kind of you look at it as like there's a lot. We have a limited number of games to pick and these slots go out to what people care about. So the fact that what I'm just saying is that, like, if if Marvel, let's say Marvel came out before to make it into under the under the wire to get into Evo this one that passed, if it did really bad numbers, I'd be like, well, yeah, so sorry. You mean last Evo?
Starting point is 03:17:58 Yeah, because it came out after. Yeah. So let's say it and made it into last year's Evo 2017's and let's just really crowd numbers and be like, well, yeah, obviously, Marvel's dead for a competitive. But it didn't get a shot, right? But it didn't get a shot. That's all that's the part that just strikes me as odd, even though what you're saying, but it did have a battle for the stones.
Starting point is 03:18:17 And then you're saying that did poorly. I thought 15,000 people were watching. But it hurt because it hurt. No, it was hurt compared to Ultra, a rather street fighter that came after because, yeah, it was way worse than that. And they were doing it at the same time for as PSX. Hasn't Marvel in store always done worse than whatever main line street. Absolutely.
Starting point is 03:18:37 But Marvel's never been in a situation where thousands of people are now clamoring loudly for Dragon Ball. It's the same. Factor, that's the other. It's the people who play Marvel Infinite are the same people that play DBZ. And overwhelmingly, the response is I would rather play DBZ. And DBZ is so casually popular. That's going to be the most watched.
Starting point is 03:19:00 Yes, there's no should probably be the number one game at Evo this year. There's no. Exactly. Over a street fighter, possibly. There's like that's the real conversation that like people don't want. Way more interest. People don't want to have another. People don't want to have that conversation, but I'm real with it. And I'm fucking serious when I say that it might have more.
Starting point is 03:19:19 I feel like twice as many people are going to watch this, which is crazy because Evo is Capcom, but no, it might not be. We'll see what happens. But on the Marvel side, this is not a melee versus Smash 4 situation. This is a situation where Marvel players are like, yeah, fuck it, Dragon Ball. You understand? Like when this is what I actually want. When the casuals, when the viewers, the casual players
Starting point is 03:19:40 and the top players are like, no, Dragon Ball, right? Why would the organization then be like, yeah, but you know what I mean? Like and they have the numbers. They're going to look at the TOs. They're going to see how every sign up from here on till summer is going to have more signups for Dragon Ball than more than infinite. When do they usually announce the game line? A couple months from now.
Starting point is 03:19:58 I mean, I mean, like here's the thing is like it's pretty much already announced in that way. Yeah. But things can change. We've got a half a year, you know? So, yeah, it's it's good. It's a new world we're entering. It's never been this way. Everybody clearly wants this new thing.
Starting point is 03:20:19 And the old thing was already not impressing people that much. So it's not like there's a fight. Everyone very rapidly wants the other thing. I just imagine that they would take out like Blaze Blue and put in Marvel. No, Blaze Blue actually has a huge audience. Blaze Blue is very alive. Really? We don't like it. Guilty Gear patch notes just came out a day ago.
Starting point is 03:20:39 That's why I didn't say guilty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't follow it, but Blaze Blue is very alive, dude. K-14 wasn't any of those. It wasn't. I don't think it was. And the other. Let's stop guessing what we can. And the other thing from like a purely like spectator point of view.
Starting point is 03:20:57 And this is this is my belief. But I've seen other people say it is like, I think DBZ is way more fun to watch as somebody who doesn't know anything about fighting games because it looks just like the fucking show. Yeah, it looks just like the show. So 2017 was five. SF5 Smash for four, Tekken 7, Blaze Blue, UMBC three, Melee, Injustice 2 and KOF 14.
Starting point is 03:21:24 OK, so 14 was there. It was infected. I should. I must have missed that entire thing. It happened. I think it happened on Saturday. It was one of the early things, you know, for sure. But yeah, dude, this is like a whole new thing we're seeing. We don't know how it's going to play out. But what is clear is what people want is very likely what they're going to get,
Starting point is 03:21:44 especially with the whole buying extra tickets to spectate thing. Yeah, you fucking tell me people are going to spend money to spectate on infinite when they want Marvel on that giant stage. It's crazy. I don't want DBZ, man. I mean, sorry, they want. Yeah, they want the real the real Marvel. You know, like I think it's I think it's the the tidal wave of I'm talking about a guy that also would rather watch DBZ than Marvel, but it just feels. I know it just feels like it's not likely to happen.
Starting point is 03:22:16 The what I'm about to say has nothing to do with anything, and it's my own personal opinion. But if you want to talk about like the idea of like, oh, it's weird to not have a Capcom game even get in on one year or whatever. It's like I also feel along those lines like ArcSys deserves to have their game beat out Marvel because they made so like such a better one and busted their asses so hard to make a game that's legitimately fantastic that like that team deserves to have their game
Starting point is 03:22:45 get top billing, especially over Marvel. And and the idea that they would not just because it's a Capcom game would be absurd. Was Marvel at Evo Japan? Marvel is not even popular. I do not think Marvel was at Evo Japan. I'll know like also Japan doesn't care about Marvel. No, I know.
Starting point is 03:23:03 Also, Japan doesn't care about Marvel. So there will be entrance for DBZ. Yeah, that's true from Asia. I. Yeah, and worldwide, as opposed to just probably the U.S. and I know Evo was not Evo. Japan was our Evo Japan had arms and Pokken. All right. So Pokken and arms would I love those smashes and even.
Starting point is 03:23:28 Oh, no, not Pokken. Sorry. I'm no smash that is that is that is strong. Over over over. Yeah, my mistake. Yeah, it had arms. It didn't. And it didn't have. Yeah. So the real question is, is DBZ going to take arms's spot? Yeah, the one that took from Marvel.
Starting point is 03:23:44 So here we're going to find out in a couple days on February 6th. Oh, it's that soon. Huh? We're going to find out what this lineup is going to be. That would explain the timing of this question. And I'll tell you what, man. It's not looking good. I don't even like I am not even saying that they will.
Starting point is 03:24:01 I just think it's weird. The time for change is now. But there was never a thing. And Marvel never changed. But Marvel never even got to me. So I have to I have to say that the introduction of the Capcom Cup as a second major for the year is Capcom could just show all their games. But it sort of like made it gave Marvel a spot on that
Starting point is 03:24:24 so that it feels like Marvel had the disaster that was that. Including certain players being so frustrated going like Chris G will no longer play Marvel. He's switching SF5 and he's one of the top Marvel players. Piece of shit or no. So it's like, oh, whoops. Like you had your shot and you totally blew it, which is stupid because it's your game that you got to run the thing for.
Starting point is 03:24:47 That's that says a lot, actually. It says a lot more than almost anything else. And to answer like you're kind of feeling it's like, yes, you're right. Marvel didn't get it shot. Marvel had until from the day of its release until the day of DBZ's release to get it shit together. And when you think about it this way, they could have fucking if it wasn't going to even make evil, they could have delayed it
Starting point is 03:25:05 to add in all the fucking shit that they I bet they didn't think that Arc System Works was going to come out with a Marvel game that was better than theirs and had a better license. That's true. Street Fighter, Injustice, Tekken 7, ArcSys. Yeah, three arcsys games. That's your lineup. That's your and then you throw in. Yeah, you throw in KOF or you throw in one of the smashes, smash,
Starting point is 03:25:29 whichever smash happens to be more popular at the time of. But give it a try. But, you know, those three arcsys and then your other thing. And that was a good question. It was a fine question. We just went really in depth because it's because we're in a whole new It's so wild. It's it's never happened before.
Starting point is 03:25:53 It's never happened before. A lot of things never have capcom. You got lazy on your throne. No, a throne would you never you had actually. I mean, for I guess for was the thing. Oh, I'm talking about the Marvel. Watch, watch it. Watch the hyper fighting.
Starting point is 03:26:07 Watch the lineup of cross tag battle arms and SNK heroines. No, you know what? You know, it would be the ultimate like salt in the moon. It's like, OK, I can see a lot of Marvel players are upset that we're not having Marvel this year and you blame DBZ. Don't blame DBZ. Here are the six other games we would have put in had DBZ not come out instead of Marvel, including SNK heroines, including cross tag battle,
Starting point is 03:26:35 including TMNT tournament fighters, including Marble 3, Marble 3, Marble 2, Omen of sorrow. X-Men versus Street Fighter. Fighting the X-Men. I would way rather watch a Marvel versus Street Fighter fucking Capcom fighting jam. Now hold on a minute. This is fake. I'm fucking watch a fighting the X-Men tournament.
Starting point is 03:27:00 Oh, yeah, dude. Will, when it comes out, takes more. What's your gogi? That's the name. That's what it should have been. Can we like paint like letters on our chests and then like sit and then stand up and go like gogi. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:27:17 Well, it needs to be on stage. Yeah. Or just have the signs in our hands and like spell them out. That's true too. Shirts. G-O-U-G-I. Could do it. What about sneak dicks?
Starting point is 03:27:29 No. No. People are latching on. No, they shouldn't. Yeah. They don't have a choice. They didn't see it. What is genuine criticism from James?
Starting point is 03:27:41 They're menacing Matt, Kill Boss, Woolly, and Papa Pat. Yo. How do you tell the difference between genuine criticism meant to help you get better at something and criticism meant to tear you down but masked as genuine? All right. Well, there's a couple of tricks here. One, do you feel an aura of cruelty coming off the person as they say it? Oh, do they start with don't take this the wrong way?
Starting point is 03:28:06 That's probably cruel. Do they finish with and with that you should be fine. Yeah, that's all you need to figure out and you'll be good. Let's just assume you can't see the person so you can't get the outward signs of them being a fucking asshole to you. If they appear to enjoy giving you this advice, they're probably assholes. Is there actually legitimately good advice in there? Because if there is, it's probably genuine criticism, right?
Starting point is 03:28:38 So if somebody comes up to you and says, hey, I saw you singing, you're singing sucks and you sound like ass, maybe you should work on it. That sounds like a non-genuine criticism. That sounds like somebody just trying to be a dick to you. If somebody comes up to you goes, oh, you seem to have trouble hitting your high range on some of these notes. Maybe you'd want to try something at a lower octave. That sounds like genuine criticism.
Starting point is 03:29:04 Now, I know some people definitely felt personally attacked by a flowchart they may or may not have seen in the recent couple of days of the past. And the fact that you told people to destroy that flowchart? Do you understand that you don't flowchart other people flowchart? Never you. You know how to beat the flowchart. That's correct. Also, the flowchart is a meme from Street Fighter 4 from 2009.
Starting point is 03:29:32 But that flowchart was super accurate. It's a throwback to an old joke. This is not new. I will never stop going in. It's a gag. Don't be rich homie Kwan. No one else can be rich homie Kwan. Only rich homie Kwan can.
Starting point is 03:29:51 One more. Yeah, let's go one more. One more. One more. One more once. I can't believe how accurate that Ken flowchart was when it came out in 2009. But I like the step gaps that I didn't put in, which were just the uh, you know, jump back. Random bullshit.
Starting point is 03:30:08 Uh, did it hit him? Hadoken. Uh, yeah. But but the uh, you know, it's like it's making fun of the person for being so for being like not knowing what to do. But it's like you see it in like it's supposed to encapsulate like the moment of, okay, I've stopped your, your, you have stopped your super dash and I've blown up your auto combo and the person just kind of stands there and like
Starting point is 03:30:35 does it move a little bit? No, in DBC, I've absolutely had the thing where they do the dragon dash from full screen and you blow them up with the launcher and combo the shit out of them. And then they get up and they just stand there because it's like, well, I didn't think about it thing outside of this. It's like, yeah, but that's my thing. That's what I do to win math. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:30:50 Yeah. And so it's like, oh, there's a game now that you have to play. And I love it. It's a really, it's an awesome moment too. It's a very awesome teaching moment because when someone, I remember someone like asked about that too. And it was like, you know, because I'm feeling some questions on Twitter and it was like, but if I don't use that, how am I supposed to get in?
Starting point is 03:31:08 And that was, I loved it because I was like, and this is the question that literally is what fighting games are about, right? But how do I get in? But how do I get in when they don't want me to be there? It's like, this is the whole genre, the study of getting in when they don't want you in. They don't even need to be called fighting games and they should be called like, how do I get in? The only reason why infiltration and Tokido are as godlike as they are is because they know exactly how to get in.
Starting point is 03:31:36 Because they figured it out. That's, you know, and so I'm like, it's such an awesome question because it's the natural thing that you wouldn't have asked if you weren't given the tool that let you get it. Now that the tool is gone and you go, well, what do I do to replace that? And it's like, yeah, this is where we learn, you know. You learn in a lab. Dear Castle Super Beast. Yo, yo, happy nerdy couple here.
Starting point is 03:32:04 What was the most, what was the most surprisingly fun let's play you've done that you expected to be lame? Oh man, man versus wild is up there. No, you knew. No, I didn't. You knew. Yeah, maybe. What game did I think was going to be a disaster?
Starting point is 03:32:22 But then it was a fun. I was secretly afraid, not, I didn't think it was going to be a disaster, but I was very afraid of how Final Fantasy 10 would turn out because it was a Final Fantasy game. Yeah. And it was incredible. Yeah. So that to me feels like a nice like expectations getting stomped by results. I think, I think like the Batman Telltale games were like, these are going to be okay.
Starting point is 03:32:50 They're not, but they are okay. Games and then where we are now in the current one, it's actually, we were like, holy shit, that was the best. Step it up. That was the best single episode of Telltale, the thing we've seen in a while. Step it up. So that certainly was a lot better than I thought was going into it. Even though I was like, well, you know, I want to see some superhero stuff and whatever versus
Starting point is 03:33:11 in Telltale. There was one before that where I was like, oh, yeah, that that was a lot better, something that you had picked. I wasn't sure about underground. I was like, yeah, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't sure about thug because I'm like, yeah, it's just Tony Hawk.
Starting point is 03:33:28 Yeah. But I never played through the thug story. So I didn't know it would be that dumb. Yeah. So I wasn't sure. I was like, well, they're short. So at the end of the day, it won't be that bad. Jersey kids.
Starting point is 03:33:39 And I knew people still love trying to get famous memories. Yeah. But yeah, I would like to say that I was fairly concerned over deadly permission. See, I had, I had played it very limitedly and Matt, you had beaten it. Oh, I'd be in it once. So like I'm taking it on Matt's word, but I'm like, this game is fucking jank. I'm worried. And then it turned out to be one of our best out there because it's so fucked up and jank.
Starting point is 03:34:05 Because it is jank. I had similar reservations and this one was more real because neither of us had played through the game for fucking Bug Island, but I also had a ton of fun with fucking Bug Island because it's so stupid. And again, it was short. So I was really concerned because we had never tried anything like it when it came to in the Maheim's. I have no mouth.
Starting point is 03:34:31 Oh, yeah. I was really worried about that because we'd never done a point of click of any kind. And I was like, I really hope there's enough here. Well, more like I need to know every possible moment where you're going to fail by heart. Yeah. And have the solution would have been bad if you hadn't done that. Yeah, I need to know. Thank God you did that.
Starting point is 03:34:47 I have to know this inside out real fucking bad at point and clicks. So like with the pace keeper with the pace car behind you instead of in front of you. Yeah, it it turned out better than I was hoping for. So yeah, there you go. Cool. What's going on? And what's going on guys? What's going on?
Starting point is 03:35:06 What's going on? All right, let's talk about the channel first. This is this is this is best friends play channel. We got co tours coming in. We're going to get that water thing for the sand people. Darth pockets. Darth pockets. Pocketing it up.
Starting point is 03:35:19 We got fucking. What are you guys doing? I completely forgot. Batman again. You guys doing Batman. Yeah. Like we said, the last episode was like incredible. So you showed me that part.
Starting point is 03:35:28 I showed him the pain part. Kills a guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's that. There's the juice is loose. And we're going into the I guess would push the seems like the finale of bully where Gary
Starting point is 03:35:41 Gary Oak might finally, you know, do you know about, do you know about the juice? You know about the juice pet, which juice? There are many juices you could be referring to. Well, how would you, how would you combine the main and Joker? Yeah. Okay. Damn. Clark and Lex is Clex.
Starting point is 03:35:57 That sucks. Spock and Kirk is Spurke. That sucks. Or cock. Cock is better. Captain cock. Bruce and Joker are juice. No, man.
Starting point is 03:36:10 They're broker. Yeah. No. Juice is better. You ruined it. He's the juice broke. No, but no, but we already bought our juicy pants. Damn it.
Starting point is 03:36:18 Let's say juicy on the ass. So he's a rich rhinestone and crusted juicy pants. Yeah. Yep. Bully. Yeah. Like Matt said, we have dude bullies pacing is super weird. We have no idea where we are in the game.
Starting point is 03:36:30 It's a rock star game. But because because we got through four seasons, it feels like we're getting there. Okay. Is that how it's broken up? Yeah. You do a big story mission. The season changes because of school year. It's like persona really.
Starting point is 03:36:44 Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly like persona. You get your summer? Yeah, we got through summer. Okay. The summer is the first one though.
Starting point is 03:36:52 Yeah. I mean, the school season starts in spring. You start the game in spring and then it's fall. You start the game in fall. Yeah. How much like persona is it? Not really at all. Okay.
Starting point is 03:37:03 You do get relationships. Are you in classes? Yes. Okay. Do you get relationships? You can get girlfriends, but it doesn't. It's not. Yeah, it's not persona stupid.
Starting point is 03:37:15 That was it was it's in a school. That's that's as close as it gets. Gotcha. All right. I thought something really cool came out this week, but maybe I'm crazy. Me and Willie are gonna do a one or two off that may come back in the future in a couple weeks. We're gonna take a look at something. And have some check-ins.
Starting point is 03:37:39 It's Monster Hunter. Money, honey. And let's see. Hey, hey, Willie. Over at Willie versus is more season two shit gonna come out? Yeah. I've got some more tips for people on now that they've Pro tips.
Starting point is 03:37:54 Now that they've figured out how to shut down the flow chart and make a solid defense, we got to work on how you make a replacement for your offense. Because you have to figure out what to do and not just stand there. Well, you jump in. Well, yeah. Obviously, you jump. Obviously, you jump forward. Obviously, jumping is even better than the air dash.
Starting point is 03:38:14 You're not even incorrect. But more season two Willie versus coming with that, plus not just Dragon Ball stuff. There's a little bit more for us to get wrong. But I thought, listen, Willie, I thought that you had to do more Dragon Ball videos because they sent you all that stuff in the mail. It's a little bit of an obligation. You're kind of feeling guilty if you don't. Let's not mistake.
Starting point is 03:38:34 Let's not let's not pretend. And also they bought your soul. Dragon Ball. There is that, you know. But it's your big check. I go, hey, I have the seven balls united. I just I can call the Shenron anytime I want. Thank fucking God that Shenron is not a legit system that you have to worry about
Starting point is 03:38:51 because it's so rare. It's very rare. And when it does happen, if a tournament rule were to try to say anything, they could just say, oh, yeah, choose nothing because nothing is a valid option. But you really cannot turn it off. Cannot turn it off. That's such a strange. Whatever.
Starting point is 03:39:04 Very strange. I feel I feel like if you if you're going to do those combos seven times in order to get the then you deserve to win. Then you deserve the Shenron shit. Because you have to and you have seven bars to like you have to work for it. You're not bringing back a dead character is one thing. Two sparkings is like, no, just no. But anyway, so yeah, more of that coming and a couple other new ideas.
Starting point is 03:39:27 And I'll get to things when I have time, but obviously priorities, you know, is to play Dragon Ball is to play track. That's correct. No, actually, it's to make more videos. So I'm spending a lot of time sitting there not playing online while everyone else is because I'm telling people things that they they should should know. So you're making your opponent stronger instead of you yourself getting stronger. Well, the fry exactly.
Starting point is 03:39:50 And you know the Friday that it launched and and everyone was online. I didn't touch. That's weird. I didn't touch that day. Then how are you supposed to know how to get good? Should we even be listening to you? Yeah, I know. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:40:02 How can I listen to the get good advice of somebody who didn't spend any time getting good? Yeah. Well, I spent the rest of the week before that. And I'm still going out to the locals. But man, you know, get good though. Yeah. Hey, Matt, anything coming up on the flop house? Like in the next seven days, probably.
Starting point is 03:40:21 I have a show called what happened. What's that? I have a show called what happened. Why do you have a show called what happened? Please don't tell me you have a show called what happened. What is what is what happened? What happened is about gaming is about gaming disasters. It's about it's about games that came out, but they're a gigantic disaster.
Starting point is 03:40:45 OK. And it's about to be finished. So OK, what's what's your what happened? Yeah. Is it about the same thing? This is a concept for like, how did you never bring this up with either person? Why would who invented this? Who discusses?
Starting point is 03:41:02 I brought it. I brought it. No, he didn't. That's what that's what happened is not what he did. I brought what happened to the channel. OK. But it doesn't matter. It's fine.
Starting point is 03:41:11 It's yours. You were first. Have a go nuts. Have fun. Should have we should have power. Should have power should have power. It's OK. Luckily, there's more.
Starting point is 03:41:19 There's more. Luckily, all my ideas are terrible. So no one would ever take them. There's more ideas. I don't even take more fishing to see. It's not a show called Edge Lords because I do. I do not have a show. Well, you can get it.
Starting point is 03:41:30 Yeah. Do you want an Edge Lords show? I don't. You can have it now. I don't want a show called yours now, but. Hey, you know what? That's what happened. That's what happened.
Starting point is 03:41:40 So stupid. You're going to stream as well this week, man. I haven't. I don't have any final dates, so I can't say anything. I'll be honest. I also have no final dates, but I will probably. I'm going to stream Monster Hunter with viewers at some point. And there's.
Starting point is 03:41:53 Oh, that's the thing I forgot. I wanted to check out in Ruby heart. New, uh, new Friday the 13th modes and maps and sharing characters come out this Tuesday. So I might stream that. Okay, cool. Where would you stream that, man? On, on, on Matt McMussles, Matthew McMussles.
Starting point is 03:42:08 I make the mistake every single TV slash Matthew McMussles and I'll stream Monster Hunter maybe once or twice this week with people. Maybe DBZ. I don't know. Over at angriest pat on the Twitch. That would be a thing that I want to do though. If I do stream DBZ, I'm going to get that camera a little further away.
Starting point is 03:42:24 So y'all can't see my, my, my ghost sticking. Have you seen what it like? How bad it is? Dude, I've played fighting games with you for over a decade. How did you never tell me that? Because I know other people who do it directly at you. I was fighting because you're, you're, you fit into a category of type of fighting game players that do that.
Starting point is 03:42:43 And guess what? People at the arcade do it. And like I said, top players do it. If the cameras on them, just pay attention. Sometimes some people do it all whole lot more than others. Well, why, why didn't you tell me like 10 years ago? So I could have learned how to stop it. Pick a top tier.
Starting point is 03:42:57 That's your problem. Oh, Kelly doesn't. Oh man. Does he do it? Does that build his energy to stick throw? Look, I'm not saying that you need to wear a chin strap and helmet while you play your games. And I'm not saying that you need a little nose cover
Starting point is 03:43:16 so that you keep your, your hands. Why don't you just play with a bag on your head? But I am saying a little bit of self awareness might go a long way, especially if your face is on camera while you do this shit, sir. All right. But it's hard.

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