Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Imane Khelif drama, Is Jayson Tatum too boring?

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to all the latest from the 2024 Paris Olympics, including Breanna Stewart leading Team USA to a quarterfinals berth with their victory over Belgium, t...he controversy surrounding Algerian boxer Imane Khelif's win-by-forfeit over Italy's Angela Carini, Simone Biles capturing another gold medal in the women's all-around gymnastics competition, if Boston Celtics star Jayson Tatum has the personality to be the face of the NBA and whether Minnesota Timberwolves' Anthony Edwards can be the NBA's face without a championship and much more!03:40 - Show Starts05:07 - USA Team Beats Belgium09:06 - Imane Kehlif26:48 - Simone Biles wins Gold in All Around30:32 - Embiid to start Next game53:56 - Olympic Smut on PH01:12:06 - Katie Ledecky never pees in the pool01:15:01 - Paige Bueckers new Ownership(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:59 Not only Nightcap, but Club Chez Chez and 84. So thank you. Hopefully everyone has received their merchandise by now. Everyone is with their merchandise more coming down the pipelines so thank you so much for your patience and uh let's get right into it ocho yeah team usa the women's national basketball team beat belgium 87 74 the team was led by was led again by stewie she had 26 points seven rebounds three blocks she was tremendous she was tremendous to start the game scoring 11 of the first 15 points but then the big dog get started to eat asia wilson 23 points 13 rebounds three steals as they continued their quest to get their
Starting point is 00:04:37 eighth straight gold medal they haven't lost since the 1992 olympics which was in barcelona and uh i don't see them losing to this Olympic. Yeah. Oh, Joe, what did you see? What did you like about team USA? I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:50 listen, they were dominant. They were dominant. Now what does scare me, but it's kind of different because I've already talked to you about it and understanding that the, the international competition, as far as women's basketball is concerned,
Starting point is 00:05:01 hasn't caught up to the women's as opposed to the men's. So today we had two starters that had zero points. But I think obviously because the big dogs step up and played the way they did and there's really no competition as far as in that they're going to have to face, that can kind of scare them if you have people that are playing, especially starters that aren't putting up points because everyone else is scoring. There's really nobody to challenge them and kind of scare them from winning that goal. So I think they're going to be fine. I mean, based off what you've told me and me watching,
Starting point is 00:05:34 they're not going to lose. I mean, having starters not score at all in four quarters, it's not good. It made me a little nervous. It made me a little nervous. That's all. Right. Yeah, but we're so dominant.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And the reason why, Ocho, the money. You make more money playing internationally than you play in the WNBA. So why am I going to come play in the WNBA, make less money, than I can play making a brawl? See, the men, they can't do that. You make more money in the NBA than you do playing a brawl. So Luka and Jokic and Giannis and all those other guys, they're going to come play.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Shea Gildress, Jamal Murray, R.J. Barrett, Dylan Brooks and those guys. And you got Bogdanovich. So you got so many guys. The NBA is where the money is. Actually, in the WNBA, that's not where the money is. It's international. And so
Starting point is 00:06:23 you don't get the same level of men in the WNBA like you get the women. The women, excuse me. You don't get the level of the WNBA women international players like you get the men. But consider Stewie, dominant, Asia Wilson, 23-13, three steals. They had, I think, 58 rebounds by almost 30. Got to get a little better with the turnovers. Yeah. This game probably should have got almost 30 got to get a little better with the turnovers yeah this game probably should have got probably could have got a little uh the u.s probably could have got
Starting point is 00:06:51 could have rested a little more comfortable had they taken a little better care of the basketball right but you know look you got the two best players on what and they're on the same team you got asia uh who's gonna be the mvp for the third time right You got Asia, who's going to be the MVP for the third time. You got Stewart, who's been a two-time MVP. I mean, look, we got the dominant players. And unless somebody can get hot from three, I don't see a situation where they're going to be able to score enough points in order to beat the U.S. women team.
Starting point is 00:07:23 That's my concern. Can someone get hot from three? Because that's the equalizer. Because nobody else has two post players. Belgium had a nice post player, I forget her name, Ojo, who had 24 points. But when you look at Stewart and you look at Asia and you still got Brittany Griner that can give you,
Starting point is 00:07:40 you know, at any given night, she can give you a double-double. Right. I just don't see an international team that has the post-presence of those two. So now, what do I have to do to beat you? Because I can't beat you in points in the paint. So now I got to get behind the three-point line and out-shoot you. Right. And that's the question.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Can someone get hot enough from the three-point line and out-shoot these young ladies? Not going to happen. Definitely not going to happen. Okay, Ocho. Algerian boxer. I mean, Khalif? Is that how you say her name, Ash? Yeah, Khalif.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Khalif. The main Khalif, yeah. Won her first match of the Paris 2024 Olympics when her opponent, Angela Carini of Italy, quit after taking several blows to the face in the opening round of the bout. The victories were few. Misguided controversy around Khalif,
Starting point is 00:08:33 who's been targeted by critics and has been misgendered throughout the games. Khalif's participation in the women's boxing has been scrutinized in recent days after reports resurfaced that she failed to meet gender eligibility tests of the Women's World Boxing Championship in New Delhi last year. At the time,
Starting point is 00:08:52 sporting officials alleged that the boxer failed to an unspecified test because they had male chromosomes. Khalif was born a woman and has always competed as a woman. See? You got me confused, man.
Starting point is 00:09:08 You got me confused because you said a whole lot of everything, but to me it's registered as nothing. She was born a woman. Are you sure? She was born a woman. She was. Here's the thing. I don't know if you watch it, but when they bring these doctors, because
Starting point is 00:09:23 right now there's a lot of transgender people trying to get right. Right. And when they bring these people to Capitol Hill and these senators and these representatives on the other side, when they ask, they ask doctors very specific questions. Yes, sir. Doctor, I want to ask you one thing. Can this person that you're talking about can they have a child can this woman have a child right yes she can okay does this woman have a period yes she does so how is she not a woman biologically and anatomically how is she not a woman right now the problem that i have this is a very similar situation yes sir i don't know if you followed it no i haven't that's why you got me a little confused now how about this there was a there was a young lady from south africa her name was castor saminia she had high she was born a woman right but her body produces high levels of testosterone okay What they wanted her to do in
Starting point is 00:10:25 order to compete against women, they wanted her to take blockers to block it. So you want me now, you don't want me to take things to help me win, which is PEDs, but you want me to ingest something into my body to
Starting point is 00:10:42 suppress what God has made me. You said God made everybody always say, oh, they say God made you man and woman. Yes, sir. OK, he made her like this. So in order for you to compete, I need. No, I'm not right. Every man doesn't have the same level of testosterone. But if he's born with those parts, is he any less of a man?
Starting point is 00:11:05 So because if a woman is born with those parts, right, and she produces a high level of testosterone. But if he's born with those parts, is he any less of a man? So because if a woman is born with those parts and she produces a high level of testosterone, does that make her any less of a woman? I'm asking, what do you think? No. Because for the longest time, can she conceive a child?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Does she have a period? I'm going to give it to you simple. I don't want to get into all Can she conceive a child? Does she have a period? That's all that matters. I'm going to give it to you simple. Right. I don't want to get into all of this and what she chose to identify as. See, that's where I'm kind of confused now. She's not identifying as a woman. God gave her those parts.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So Iman. She got the parts. That's the car case you know Oto you like cars don't you yes sir you ever watch Mecham
Starting point is 00:11:50 you ever watch Barrett Jackson they say this car has the original parts right the original parts car is worth more right
Starting point is 00:11:59 this this Khalif those are her original parts nothing has been added nothing has been taken away This Khalif, those are her original parts. Nothing has been added.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Nothing has been taken away. So Iman Khalif is a woman then? She's a woman. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. No problem. Because on Twitter, I've been watching, seeing all the clips with the boxer and they say the person that was in the ring was transgender and it was a man.
Starting point is 00:12:29 They said the same thing about Caster Semenya. Because her body, I think she was born with an extra chromosome, which allows her body to produce more testosterone than the average female body will produce. Okay, okay. But guess what, Ocho? She can still,
Starting point is 00:12:44 the question that they always ask and I know you heard it yeah can she conceive a child and does she have a period okay does that not make you female right does that not make you woman I thought the ability to reproduce is what separated so now it doesn't I'm just trying to figure out. Because her body produces more testosterone, that does not make her any less of a woman if she has the... And I'm not trying to be graphic, but if she has female parts,
Starting point is 00:13:15 she's a woman. Yeah, most definitely. And hold on. Original female parts, not parts that have been added. But you can get sexual reassignment and become a different gender.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Boy, they really do that, boy? Put them things together like Legos? Yeah, it couldn't slip. Yeah. Some people do. Some people feel that they're trapped. They're a male trapped inside a
Starting point is 00:13:47 female's body. They're a female trapped and so they want to, whatever. I don't, I ain't got nothing to do with me. I don't care. Listen, I want to make sure I'm looking down the barrel of this one. I don't care what you want to be. I don't care what you identify as.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You can be a laptop, a tree, a lamp, male, female. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm not here to try to live your life. That's what you want to be. And you're not harming anyone. Take off with it. But we're talking specifically about this case. It's reported that her body, the same as Castor Semenya, if you go look her up, she's a two-time 800-meter champ.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Her body, she's born, if I'm not mistaken, born with an additional XY chromosome. It's rare. It's extremely rare. I don't know if it's one in 10 million, one in 15 million. I don't know the probability or the likelihood of it happening, but it happened. And the question is that when they have these doctors and they're talking and all the the the the representatives asked can this person bear children does this person have a period can they get a period yes sir if the answer to both of those are yes what is it she's a she if she can do those two things but now they say well
Starting point is 00:15:30 if you want to compete against the women because your body not it's not something that you've done to your body right what about god because you know god made us man he made male and people that's what they say god made yeah did. Did not God make her like this? Aren't we all God's children? He created us. So if he created her, who are we to say, well, if you want to compete, you're a woman. But if you want to compete with the women, well, this is what you're going to have to do. I refuse to.
Starting point is 00:16:00 That's crazy. No. That's crazy. So if my bot, Ocho, let let's just say but i don't know the average i guess obviously your highest testosterone is when you're going through puberty that's why you get the voice change you see guys start getting the facial hair so that's the highest testosterone levels are going to be let's just say it's 1500 2000 let's just say for the sake of argument Ocho naturally you got somebody that has a testosterone of 3,000
Starting point is 00:16:27 2,500 3,000 and you're freakish ungodly you're you're you're who is that like me like me go ahead like me who is that uh Samson you're stronger than Samson me go ahead okay
Starting point is 00:16:43 you're stronger than Samson like Ocho yeah. Go ahead. Okay. You're stronger than Samson like Ocho. Yeah. And they said, well, Ocho, you're too strong in order to participate. So, if you want to participate with the 10-year-olds, you're going to have to take these
Starting point is 00:16:59 blockers to reduce the level of testosterone in your body. Ain't happening. Ain't doing anything happening, Captain. No. This is the way a man upstairs made me. They want the same thing in
Starting point is 00:17:15 Castor Semenya. She went to the court of arbitration. She lost. And she's like, I'm done. I'm not going to take these blockers. Right. God made me like this. I can have a child.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I can get a period. I can do all those things. So for me, it, it does. It didn't, I don't know what the hullabaloo is unless they could, you, you stop, stop with this. Oh, she's trans based on what? Because she has a high level of testosterone when it's been proven that she has female parts. So we have other people just trying to identify her as something that she's not as far as trans entering.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Because there's a there's a there. Listen, there's an agenda here. And I agree. Oh, Joe, I don't believe if you're born a man and then you take drugs, you say, you know what? I want to identify as a woman. You shouldn't be allowed to participate in women's sports. How is that fair? Yeah, it's not.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Even at my old ass age, if I said, you know what? I want to be a woman and I started taking blockers, what a woman going to be able to do with me, Ocho, my big, strong, rust ass? So what do you think about a 25, 30-year you'll be like 25 30 year old yeah you'll be like you want a man man yeah so no if that's how you want to live i got no problem with that right right i support your right to be able to live however you want to live as long as you're not harming anybody but as far as participating in women's sport oh hell, hell no. Yeah. No, no,
Starting point is 00:18:45 I can't rock with that. That's where I draw the line. That's why I say no, no can do. If you want to, man, want to become a woman, a woman want to become a man.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Hey, I love, I love whoever you want to be. You're going to make a contribution to society. Take off with it. Yes, sir. But participating in men,
Starting point is 00:19:04 participating in women's sport after they decided and they take whatever whatever the case may be they take these these blockers and they take these these hormones nah oh i can't rock with that yeah all right ain't no sense in me lying i ain't finna get up here it's oh yeah no no no no no i mean i'm not participating yeah i'm curious to hear how anybody can make sense of it anyway. How can anyone make sense of it? A man identifying as something else outside of what he was born for. And then I'm allowing him or him, her to compete in women's sports in general.
Starting point is 00:19:35 How can someone even agree? It makes sense of that in general. I would love to hear the context in which it in which it does make sense regardless of the rules regardless of you being able to do it in general like it it just i don't know it's weird it's weird let let i mean like i said her she has the like i said i'm trying to give it to people i'm trying to help people understand uh i'm a car enthusiast i love cars uh old school muscle cars whether you're talking about the hemi whether you're talking about the cuda when you're talking about the gto whatever the case may be the uh you know the ram air all that the camaro i'm good yeah when these
Starting point is 00:20:16 cars go come up for auction and they'll be in value that 1 million 2 million 3 million or you're talking about a a gto a ferrari um that's going for 30 and 40 and 50 million dollars shit they say the car they say the car has its original parts right the way it came off the showroom floor right in 1950 and 1960 and 1970 today in 2024 the car has its original parts the way she came out of her mother's womb does this person have the original parts as she came out of the womb if she does what's the discussion
Starting point is 00:20:56 if she has female parts what's the discussion I don't care if her body no but we gotta stop doing we got to start doing this we got to start doing this because I don't get what
Starting point is 00:21:11 goods of it I get look look everybody has you know agenda on certain sides and want to push this and want to push that I ain't trying to push nothing I want people to live how you want to live you're going to make a contribution to society take off with that I'm good with that I ain't I told you I don't I stay out of people
Starting point is 00:21:30 houses I stay out of people homes I stay out of people's bedrooms I stay out of people's lives you ain't hold on you need to be you need to be Kayla Sharp you need to be Kiari Sharp you need to be Kaylee you need to be Sterling you need to be a buck okay You need to be Kiari Sharp. You need to be Kaylee. You need to be Sterling. You need to be a bug. Okay. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Other than that. Yeah. I ain't in your bedroom. What you do, what you go to bed as who you wake up
Starting point is 00:21:56 with. Yeah. Don't make me don't make me not. No, that ain't me. Don't make me want you to be. What makes you happy at the end of the day? What makes you happy? Right. Does that make you happy? Take off you to be happy. What makes you happy? At the end of the day, what makes you happy? Does that make you happy? Take off with that. But
Starting point is 00:22:10 I think this is a very similar situation to Casta Semenya. She went through it. She had an extra Y chromosome, which her body as a female produces more testosterone than a normal female body will produce. But at the end
Starting point is 00:22:28 of the day, could she bear children? Does she have a monthly? That's what the old people call it. They call it monthly. Yeah, that's all that matters. That's it. Hold on now. That's what matters when we're arguing before one another.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Can you have... God said Adam and Eve? God said he didn't say Adam and Steve. OK, I get all that. But at the end of the day. I believe she's an Eve. Right. If she's an Eve, she should be able to fight against other Eve. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Or Esther, the other names, Mary, Mary Magdalene. Esther. That was in the Bible. Yes. So whoever else, yes, whoever else born of that gender,
Starting point is 00:23:11 if she's of that gender, she should be allowed to participate. So, that's where I'm on that. Ocho, I mean, you could,
Starting point is 00:23:24 I guess, I'm pretty sure, I think you are could, uh, I guess I'm, I'm, I'm pretty sure. I think you are also like, you believe that if she's a woman, she should be allowed to participate. I got it. You,
Starting point is 00:23:32 you, you believe that if she's born a woman. Yeah. Yeah. Most, most definitely. I just think it's unfair if you're born a man and you want to later on in life, you want to identify as something outside of that and then competing in women's sports. that's just wrong yeah that's what i'm just saying that's flat out wrong just
Starting point is 00:23:49 having a competitive advantage in general it's it makes no sense but uh it's it's for some reason it seemed people have made sense of it you know those in positions of power have allowed people to do that to to allow people to do that. But that's neither here nor there. Like you said, whatever makes you happy. That's it. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.
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Starting point is 00:25:16 Bocho, Simone Biles soared to her second Olympic all-around goal. She won every all-around competition since she's entered since 2013. A string of 37 in a row. That's how I don't understand how I lost to
Starting point is 00:25:31 the world's greatest athletes when I got Michael Phelps and Simone Biles. But anyway, a string of 37 in a row. She created five signature moves. 17 different women have finished second to her. Only four of them. Ross in the world in 2013, Mustafa Fina in 2014 Worlds,
Starting point is 00:25:49 Lee at the 2019 Worlds, and Cecily Jones at the 2023 World Competition, have managed to get within less than a part of her. Suni Lee wins bronze with her Triumph of Floor routine. That's high. Think about that. Since, I think if you go back, how many years?
Starting point is 00:26:06 I think if you had to go back like 20 years, all of the all-around champions have been under the age of 20. Yeah. I mean, you got Nadia Kovanić. I think she was the youngest. I think she won it in 76.
Starting point is 00:26:18 She was 13 or 14. You had Mary Lou Retton. You had Gabby Douglas. You had Tatiana Gutsu in 92. You had Shestanoton. You had Gabby Douglas. You had Tatiana Gutsu. In 92, you had Shestanova. In, what, 88? You had Naskia Lukens. You had
Starting point is 00:26:33 Suni Lee. So if you go back and look, they've all been under the age of 20. I mean, as young as 13, 14. He's 27. Yeah. She's 27, Ocho. That's how good. And like you said,
Starting point is 00:26:50 the question is, could she potentially, hell, could she potentially, Ocho, be in L.A. in 28? Yes, I told you. Because if you can do what you're doing now at 27, you're definitely still going to be able to do it. Take a year off, let her body.
Starting point is 00:27:07 She can take two years off. Two years is enough for her to come back. Yeah. And then you have two years to prepare and get ready and get yourself, get your equilibrium right. Get back to tumbling and flipping and doing whatever it takes. It's muscle memory. She definitely can come back in four in 2020.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I mean, that's crazy. Is that most of these women that win this title, she's seven years older than eight, nine. I mean, you think about Nadia. I think Nadia in 76, she had to be 13 or 14.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Think about that, Ochoa. There's a 13, 14-year age gap from when she won as opposed to, now this is her second one, I think if she's the third, maybe the fourth woman that's won multiple all around at the Olympics. I mean, she's
Starting point is 00:28:00 in a class by herself. And then if you look at where she is, her number, 59, and then you got somebody else like a point and a half up under. And then if you look at where she is, her number, 59, and then you got somebody else like a point and a half up under. And then you got somebody three points up under that
Starting point is 00:28:11 for the bronze. That just goes to show you how dominant she's been. It's like Katie Ledecky. Katie Ledecky finished in the race 17 seconds in front of second place, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Man, she done got out of the pool. She waving. And they still swimming. They ain't touched the wall yet. I mean, come on, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, that's how dominant Simone Biles is. So congratulations, Simone.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Well done. Come back after what transpired in Tokyo and to get back on that horse and to get back on that horse and to get back in that saddle and to do it again and do it even better than you've done it before. Congratulations. Nightcap, Ocho, and I, we take our, well, we don't have hats,
Starting point is 00:28:55 but if we had hats, we salute you. We salute you. Joel Embiid, who regularly has been starting for Team USA, did not see the court at all during America's 103-86 win over Sudan. Head coach Steve Kerr said, told the reporters after the game, the decision was based solely on
Starting point is 00:29:12 the matchup that Embiid will start next game. Embiid has been subject to regular criticism as a starter with a number of calls to put Anthony Davis in the starting five instead. Davis had 13 points against Sudan while Bam came off the bench and chipped in with 18.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Ocho? I kind of understand. Do you like the way Coach Kerr has been manipulating his starting lineup? Remember one game? Yeah. Jason Tatum. Harry Talleyburton didn't play.
Starting point is 00:29:39 The next game, Joel LeVie didn't play. Right. Are you okay? Are you results-based? All you care about is the gold medal, B. I mean, listen, I care about the gold medal, but now I have a better understanding on why Kerr is doing what he's doing. So the matchups, the game, you needed smaller players.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Now, when they played Serbia, they had somebody down in the post, somebody big, somebody of size, so it made sense to have Joel Embiid on the floor. Now, when they played South Sudan, they had smaller players, so you had more wings, you know? And I think, defensively, I think Joel Embiid might have
Starting point is 00:30:18 been a liability. Might have been a liability on the court, you know, them not being able to play well with him there because of the personnel that they were playing against so i kind of understand it from from that perspective and i'm sure there was a conversation before the game was had with mb and i'm sure the same thing now i'm not sure who they play who they playing next i forgot who they playing next i don't know lithuania yeah who did they play, Ash? I'm not sure either. Yeah, but Joel Embiid is starting because based on the personnel
Starting point is 00:30:50 and the players that they have. They play Puerto Rico. Yeah, I'm not sure. They play Puerto Rico. If I'm not mistaken, South Sudan just beat Puerto Rico if I'm not mistaken. Real?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. This game? Yeah. Embiid is back and he's playing. Why is he playing? I'm sure Puerto Rico has a big they have somebody
Starting point is 00:31:06 60 left maybe they definitely don't got nobody 7 foot but I'm sure they got somebody and it fits based on the personnel
Starting point is 00:31:14 and who they playing right you know and the thing is is that Joel Embiid but here's the thing with no 3 second call
Starting point is 00:31:22 hell put Joel Embiid in the paint throw it thing, Ocho, with no three-second call, hell, just put Joel Embiid in the paint, throw it down to him and let him turn about and draw fouls or land in the basket like you do in an NBA game. You do it all game. You could do it all game if you wanted to. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So you, at the end of the day, as long as we bring back the goal, you're not really concerned about who plays or how much they play because at the end of the day, as long as we bring back the gold, you're not really concerned about who plays or how much they play. Because at the end of the day, the end result is what matters. Did the U.S. national team win the gold medal? I think Steve Kerr has a very difficult job. For one, all the players, they want to play. I'm representing my country.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I want minutes. I want to go. I want to participate. I want representing my country. I want minutes. I want to go. I want to participate. I want to contribute to helping us win gold. But I think there's conversations that are had before it gets to the media with Jason Tatum. I'm sure there was conversations had with Halliburton. I'm sure there was a conversation had with Joel Embiid with an understanding of tactics and game plan based on who we're playing. You might not get as many minutes as you want based on the personnel and who we're playing against.
Starting point is 00:32:27 No, I don't think... He might have had that conversation with Embiid, but I don't believe they had that conversation with Jason Tatum. You don't think so? Because Jason Tatum... Jason Tatum wouldn't have said it would have been humbling
Starting point is 00:32:37 because he would have known, Ocho, if they come and tell you, Ocho, you're not playing today, that's one thing. You dressing out with the expectation of playing and you don't play is something entirely different. Yeah, I don't know. For some reason, I
Starting point is 00:32:54 just really don't really think he just didn't know. I think he just said all the right things once the mic was in front of him. But you, Kerr, had to have some type of conversation with him, man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:33:07 We going into a game, a game of that magnitude and your coach ain't communicating. You know what? You might not play. Oh, well, KD got the hot hand. Okay, LeBron playing well.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Steph is playing well. You know what? We don't want to take KD out because he has a hot hand. There had to be something said. Something had to be said for him to sit on that bench that entire game, all four quarters. Of the man that's on that roster this year,
Starting point is 00:33:39 there's only one first team all NBA selection. That's Jason Tatum. Yeah. And he didn't play a minute. There's only one first team all NBA selection. That's Jason Tatum. Yeah. And he didn't play a minute. If you don't think, I don't care what you, so you think, you think, let me ask you a question. Tell me the wide receiver that you can go to and say, you know what? Even if it's all-star, even if it's the Pro Bowl game back then, guys wanted to play.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Pro Bowl game back then. Guys wanted to play. Hey, Coach. Hey, man, I ain't come all the way over here to fly out 12, 10 hours just to throw me the ball. I don't agree with it at all because he was visibly upset. I told you that. I don't agree with it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He don't care nothing about that. He listed Ocho. Let me tell you how you know he cared because he listed it he what did he tell you ocho he won the title got a big contract he on the cover of 2k yeah sports illustrated he said it so don't you don't take my words he's speaking right i ain't japano i ain't moving pinocchio he's speaking for himself he told you yeah he said i ain't Geppetto I ain't moving Pinocchio he's speaking for himself he told you
Starting point is 00:34:47 he said I ain't gonna lie it's very humbling very very humbling listen I wasn't even in a situation shoot I felt bad just looking at his face his facial expressions
Starting point is 00:34:57 on the bench it said it all it said it all because like I said Ojo it's not you're talking about one of the best players you're talking about one of the best players yeah hold on think about this with ojo we've been having a conversation me you and gil the next face of the nba didn't play a minute
Starting point is 00:35:20 and everybody's like that's okay think about what thatcho. The next face, a lot of people say he got next. Face of the NBA did not play a minute and they won by 26. All the people that's saying that it didn't matter, ain't never been
Starting point is 00:35:42 involved with sports. Because when you put that kind of time in because the more the more time you put in oh joe the more effort you put in the more it hurts when things don't go accordingly right you think that man gave up his summer to go sit on the bench halfway across the country right of the world come on people sometimes y'all just i'll be looking at y'all comment and y'all just say stuff y'all really do y'all just, I be looking at y'all comments and y'all just say stuff. Y'all really do. Y'all just say stuff. But as an athlete, as Ocho, and I can attest to, and I'm not saying I'm the equivalent football player as Jason Tatum is the basketball player.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That issue would have bothered me. Yeah. So, Ocho. It would have bothered anybody that's a competitor in general, especially on the biggest stage of them all. Yes! Come on, man. That's all I'm saying. We go from saying this man got next.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He could potentially be the face of the NBA. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know about that part, but okay, go ahead. No, Ocho, we was having a discussion. Who is it going to be? Is it going to be Jason Tatum? Is it going to be Ant-Man? Is it going to be Ant-Man? Is it going to be Ja Morant? We live it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Now, Ja, Ant, could be the face of the league. But Jason Tatum doesn't have the cachet and the personality and the aura. And there's a certain it factor that you have to have to be the face of the NBA. And he's great in all he does. The accolades, the resume, it speaks for itself, NBA champion. But there's something missing. I don't know how to explain it.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I can't put it, I can't put it into words. You know what I'm talking about. And become a champion. Yeah, but I'm saying, many people believe that he has what it takes. It's more to it than that. Name a face of the NBA that wasn't a champion. Name, let's run down the NBA, the face of the NBA. Name a face. Okay NBA that wasn't a champion.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Let's run down the face of the NBA. Okay, you had Bird Magic. You had Jordan. Look at Magic Johnson. Look at Michael Jordan. Look at Kobe. Look at the personalities. Look at the attitude.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Look at the aura, the way they carry themselves. He doesn't even fit. He's not even close to them. But what did they have? I understand what you mean, but you need more than just that to be the face of the NBA. I don't know if you can... Where people gravitate towards you
Starting point is 00:37:53 and the energy you bring. I can see an Ant-Man. Everybody would gravitate towards that. A John Moran. Not without a championship. Okay. Because that's what they placed on him now. Now they make you less, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:38:07 What we've done, what we've done is like, we make you less than if you don't have a title. Because title's everything. Right? Why you playing, Shannon? Why you playing, Ocho, if the title ain't the most important? I know what you're talking about. We talking about the face of the NBA, though.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And what it takes to be that. You can't say all those that have won a title have a different it factor that they have within them. You're born with that. There's nothing wrong with Jason Tatum. He just doesn't have that Kobe. He don't have that Michael Jordan. He don't have
Starting point is 00:38:42 that magic. I don't really know how to put it into words, but I'm sure the chat understands exactly what I'm talking about. Great player. How about this? So, if Tom Brady, Pat Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:38:58 Peyton Manning, are they the same? I mean, complexion wise, yeah. No, they're not. Wait, wait, wait. Mahone got a little tan to him. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, they're the same,
Starting point is 00:39:12 but then you would have to digest and dive in statistically to separate them. But you know what separated them? No, I'm talking about as face of the NFL. Oh. Look at Fahey's demeanor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at Tom Brady's demeanor.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah. Yeah, they're kind of all the same you know and remember when you're the face of the nfl of the quarterback you got to carry yourself a certain way now what i want to tell you is you know tom brady off the field don't you yes no paid manning off the field don't you we do yeah we do they don't and they ain't nothing like what they get to see We do. They don't. And they ain't nothing like what they get to see. But that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:39:47 How they identify. We get to see sides of guys that walk around and we go out and we see them. That's different. Right. Think about this. Magic Johnson. What you see is what you get. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Kobe Bryant. What you see is what you get. That ain't no act. Michael Jordan. You already know. What you see is what you get that ain't no act michael jordan you already know what you see is what you get they haven't won an nba championship i'm just talking about people that are so so charismatic so exciting to watch yes i could possibly be the face of the nba no championship i'm speaking on jaw i'm speaking on on Ant-Man. They have this certain it factor that you can't coach, you can't teach, as opposed to making someone the face of the NBA that doesn't have that cachet, that doesn't have that oomph to be that and forcing on us because they won an NBA title.
Starting point is 00:40:39 It just doesn't fit because I don't know how to explain it the right way or find the words the the conjure up i know the chat know what i'm talking about i just i just can't can't piece it together like i want to no no ultra i don't want you to think right that a championship is the only thing but i'm saying if you listen to jordan talk if you listen to kobe talk you listen to the other greats talk yeah there's like you do you build a brand right when first brand will come right now it everybody ain't gonna be like magic you ain't coming in win an ncaa title be most outstanding player and then come straight into the NBA, win another title. Berg won in his second year. Most guys have to wait three, four,
Starting point is 00:41:30 five years in order to win a title. These guys got right at it right away. But they went to a really good team. Kareem was on that team. Kareem was the MVP, Magic's rookie year. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was the mvp of the league
Starting point is 00:41:46 so what's the likelihood of a guy the number one overall pick going to a team and that year that guy's going to be the mvp the best player right i got a question for you matter of fact yes speaking of now you know i don't watch much basketball but i've gotten much better with my knowledge of the game because i've been paying attention throughout the entirety of the season. Remember when Zion Williamson came in the league? Yes. And they were making him the one up next to be the face of the league? Yeah, he could be the
Starting point is 00:42:13 next guy. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. Now, Zion has that it factor. He has that personality in a sense. He has a certain aura and all that. He has the crib, but yeah, he the foot, yeah. He has all personality in a sense. He has a certain aura and all that. He has all the intangibles it takes if he was able to stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:42:32 He could have been that guy. But... Let me ask you. Let's just say for the sake of argument. Yes, sir. Go ahead. I'm going to say this. You're right.
Starting point is 00:42:41 If Zion stays healthy and he wins, what's the likelihood... And he doesn't win a championship, what's the likelihood of him being the face of the NBA if he doesn't win a championship? It wouldn't be good. But you know what? Because he's so exciting to
Starting point is 00:42:58 watch, because he's so exciting to watch, that's must-see TV. Yeah. Think about this. Let's say you take Jason Tatum, right? Yes. You take Jason Tatum and his game and his style of play and you ask people would a healthy Ja Morant,
Starting point is 00:43:14 a healthy Anthony Edwards, or a healthy Zion Williamson, and you ask them who they want to watch first or who they'd rather watch out of the four. The other three guys, they do a lot of playing above the rim. That's not what Jason Tatum does. Thank you. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:29 He doesn't shoot the three. He doesn't shoot the three ball like Steph. Because Steph was not above the rim player, but Steph was boxed because he could shoot the three. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Steph was shooting three before. When did he come to face face when was he one of the face of the NBA when they did what Ocho what did they do championship championship
Starting point is 00:43:51 oh okay championship I mean do you think he was really the face of the NBA or LeBron has always been the face of the NBA no no
Starting point is 00:43:59 I'm saying he was shooting threes I'm saying he was shooting threes he came to the league in 2008, 2009. Right. Letting it rip. Letting it rip.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah. Now, you know what? Speaking of face, let's talk about the influence that he's had on the game. Outside of the NBA. Oh, yeah. With the little kids. Everybody's hooking up threes. They're not even playing basketball no more.
Starting point is 00:44:24 They're not even playing fundamental basketball no more because of the influence that Steph Curry has shooting the three, 30 feet, 20 feet. The goddamn logo. They can't shoot the ball with two hands, Ocho. They throwing it. But it's a three, Ocho. They so little.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Look, kids. They can't shoot it with two hands. They throwing it. But it's a three-o-two. Look, kids! They can't shoot it with two hands. They throwing it with one hand. But that's what Steph has done. Taking nothing away from Jason Taylor. Oh, I love it. But listen, phenomenal player. Phenomenal player. All NBA. Now
Starting point is 00:44:59 NBA champion. He has the monkey off his back. But I mean, just what I think, and I could be wrong. I'm not sure if the chat agrees with me or not. He has the monkey off his back. But I mean, just what I think, and I could be wrong. I'm not sure if the chat is using me or not. He doesn't have the personality. Let's start there. You know, when that mic is in front of him, imagine this. Give Jason
Starting point is 00:45:16 Tatum Anthony Edwards personality. Oh my God. Charisma, yeah. Give him Anthony Edwards charisma. It's over. It's over. It's over it's over it's over he doesn't have that that something's missing
Starting point is 00:45:32 you know my grandma used to say that baby I don't know what's wrong with her but it's just something's missing still great at what he does yes and it's hard I think it's hard to be the face when you're not
Starting point is 00:45:48 he's not thought of as the best player because he didn't win the finals MVP he didn't win I mean he's won the Eastern Conference most valuable player before but in the title run JB won it so how do you say somebody is the face and that's what
Starting point is 00:46:04 Kobe was up against. Kobe was up against Shaq. He had Shaq on his team. Kobe was sensational. Kobe was averaging down to 30 wins, Shaq. Wait, whoa. I'm glad you just said that. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You just said JB name. Shaq. Now I've watched enough basketball, I could be wrong. Is Jason Tatum even the best Celtic on his team? Or is it Jalen Brown? You know what? Come on now. Chad, I'm asking you. Now help me.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Help me get my knowledge up. So I don't sound like no fool. But I know what I watched in the playoffs. I could be wrong. I think honestly, Ocho, for the longest time, I was under the impression that Jalen Brown was the more athletic, JT was the better player. Now, some will say JB is getting the benefit of not getting the double teams thrown at him. And he's working a lot of one-on-ones right where jt is having to go through the double
Starting point is 00:47:05 team and getting the nation getting everybody's best defender but it's gonna be hard for me to disagree with your what you're thinking okay okay what you've watched and you watch these two grow yeah and guys look you do look like we're like when we have a conversation it's not to try to break them up and you can't break them up we just because they just like we're like when we have a conversation it's not to try to break them up and you can't break them up because they just yeah we're just having a discussion that's all yeah i mean we we i mean i'm trying to think who had i'm trying to think ocho who had like two like box office receivers on the set it's like when you had Torrey Holt and Isaac Bruce. Ooh. And Isaac Keenan. Or you had Jimmy and Keenan.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. I mean, Jimmy was the guy. And we know what Reverend Ike did. Yeah. But Torrey Holt was making a big game Torrey Holt with $1,500 every year. Yeah. But you see the work and I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:48:06 when you give somebody what credit, you're like, oh, so you said, no, I'm just saying this. I can see the work that JB has put in to get to where he's at. At first, he was just
Starting point is 00:48:23 athletic. Making a lot of plays on athletics. You know, some stuff, what I kept hearing, watching Twitter, trying to get knowledge of the game up, he ain't even got no damn left hand. Yeah. What you mean he can't go left? So I'm watching games to see if he can go left. Right. But hell, he was going left. And when he went right, they still couldn't stop it.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So, I mean mean I don't know man they're looking if the guy ain't got Steph Curry or Kyrie handles he ain't got no handles damn who got handles like that it don't seem like everybody got Kyrie handles they don't or Rob Strickland or Jason Williams
Starting point is 00:49:00 Isaiah everybody don't have handles like so in other words you wanted God to give LeBron James his height, his size, his durability. Right. Shoot the ball like Steph and handles like Kyrie. How fair is that? So just imagine if God would have gave Patrick Mahomes the ability to run the ball like Lamar Jackson or like Michael. How is that fair, Ocho? Ain't fair at all. Or Michael Good. How is that fair? At all. He gave Tom Brady the ability to run the ball like Cam
Starting point is 00:49:30 Newton. His ability to throw just like he is. He's still Brady throwing the ball, but he can run the ball like Cam. It wouldn't be fair. No! No! Just like you give Tyreek I mean just imagine if man Randy
Starting point is 00:49:50 yeah well Randy and Tyreek is the same speed but give Randy Moss the right now like think about Tyreek is fast right now imagine if Randy didn't have to pick up speed where he got, when he,
Starting point is 00:50:06 he don't, yeah, the long stride was gone and he hit top speed right away. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. When, when,
Starting point is 00:50:13 you know, when, when, when the, uh, when Randy went with CC, with Chris and Minnesota. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Yeah. And then read in the slot. Yeah. Yeah. No, Chris, Chris went to the slot. Right. Jake went outside. I know the slot. Jake Reed, yeah. Jake, yeah. No, Chris went to the slot. Right. Jake went outside the numbers.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Chris worked the slot, yeah. But it's great. Look, at the end of the day, as long as they come back, when we come back with two gold medals in basketball. We good. I'm good. And we're going to come back with the gold medals in the 100-meter men and women. I'm talking to you, Jamaica.
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Starting point is 00:52:10 for the term Olympics. Up 4,876% since the start of the game. There are a ton of different variations of Olympic searches users are pumping into Pornhub's search bar. Including Sex Olympics, Porn Olympics, Olympic Sex Games, Nude Olympics.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Oh. Wait, nigga, I should take advantage. But the Olympics got two more weeks, right? Yeah. I mean, I could make some home videos with the missus. We could send them on in. I don't know how much I could probably bring in, man. Two weeks?
Starting point is 00:52:42 I guarantee you, can't nobody beat me. I'm a pretty first. I guarantee you, I'm pretty first. I bet you that. I bet you that. Hey, I could create a few events and send some videos in the Pornhub to get that surge,
Starting point is 00:53:00 the quench, the thirst of the people that are looking for stuff. Let me write this down again, man. Ocho, the range would be crazy. Yeah, what? I mean, I could be Usain Bolt and Hockam El Garouche. I can win the 100 meters and the 1,500 meters. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:14 I go back and quit. No, I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. And I can go the distance. Yeah, I'm with you when you're right. Listen, and I could do just about anything, especially with that venom. You know, I got that one-earned spider venom. Oh, yeah, yeah, that spider. Yeah, I got that just about anything, especially with that venom. You know I got that wonder and spider venom. Oh, yeah, that spider.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah, I got that spider. Yeah, it's so. Hey, where was that report at? People really searching for that? That ain't searching. That's dope. I mean, excuse me, it's not dope, but I'm just saying, like, it's amazing, the industry.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's amazing. You know that's a billion-dollar know, that's a billion dollar industry. That's a billion dollar industry. That's, that's crazy for something that's natural. And that's human nature. It might've got fed off of me. oh oh oh
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Starting point is 00:54:29 a lifetime, and some people, like, they feel that's gonna take their legs, that's gonna, you know, make them lose focus, or whatever the case may be. You can't play. You know better than that. The cardinal rule number one, when you're in school, you don't have sex before a game. You don't have sex
Starting point is 00:54:45 because it gives you spaghetti legs. You want to be as strong and stout as possible. It gave me spaghetti something else, but legs wasn't it. I wasn't running on that leg. I don't know what you're talking about, Ocho. But man, I had some of my best games. Nah, boy, I ain't play what you're talking about, Ocho. But man, that hands over my best game. Nah, boy, I ain't play that, boy.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I ain't play that. You didn't? No, no, no, no. Saturday, we in the hotel anyway. But even if we had a home game, and depending who I was dating at the time, if they were in town, listen, this week, nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I'm going to catch you Monday, Tuesday. And once Wednesday hit, you know, Wednesday, that's, oh, no, I'm done with you. I'm going to catch you on Monday, too. You catch me after the game, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. No, I can't do nothing after the game
Starting point is 00:55:34 because I'm going to cramp up. I ain't going to be no good to you. Oh, nah. I'm going to lock up, man. I can't do nothing after the game. I know what you're talking about. I remember the days. Man, I couldn't do nothing after the game.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I ain't never do nothing after the game. Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. That's it. The rest of the week, I'm what you're talking about. Man, I couldn't do nothing after the game. I ain't never do nothing after the game. Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. That's it. The rest of the week, I'm off. I'm off. Don't even ask. Don't even try. Ain't no point in even coming to town. Nothing. Nathaniel. Come on in town. Well, you better than me. I ain't play
Starting point is 00:56:03 that game. I ain't played that during the week i might not have had no discipline when it came to eden i might have been eating mcdonald's and i might have had the worst diet in the world but when it came to that discipline all the feel and just no locking into being focused is as far as on my craft and stuff man i don't care who oh jo, I had a free willy. Man, willy been locked up. Nah. Man, you remember
Starting point is 00:56:28 when you see that movie Free Willy? Yeah. I freely willy jumped Jump over the cliff? Yeah. Nah. I ain't had no.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Free willy? You didn't do that? Man, I ain't tell you what you could have done, Ocho. Yeah. You probably left about 3,000 yards
Starting point is 00:56:42 on the field. It ain't cause of that it wasn't cause of that don't you nah it wasn't nah it definitely wasn't cause of that bro
Starting point is 00:56:55 I'm not gonna call it a superstition it just I just nah I ain't I ain't I remember hearing that
Starting point is 00:57:04 back in high school, man. Remember my coach, man, Coach, Coach Jim Crow. All right, we got a game,
Starting point is 00:57:10 Saturday. Do your best to your girlfriend. Nothing. You want your legs strong. You don't want them weak. And it just stuck with me. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:23 well, you know, Coach, what did everything you say? Coach said, hey, look hey look here hey that was a great week of practice yeah the haze in the barn yeah i want you to go home get off your feet she's gonna be off her feet too coach man you don't get off your hey they're gonna be on their feet too man but you know Ocho they gonna be on their feet too man but you know hey the family come in town
Starting point is 00:57:48 I know the family gonna come in town and your wife and your girlfriend gonna want you going all over and your mom and your mom-in-law hey just tell them you can't go you know you can't go Ocho I mean you know people gonna be wanting to go to the movies I mean you know
Starting point is 00:58:04 oh I owe them days I mean, you know, people going to be wanting to go to the movies. I mean, you know. Oh, I owe them days. I can't believe you owe them days. You were terrible, man. Hey, them was some good days. Them was some good days, don't you? Yeah. You know, go to the movies, saving Private Ryan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 You ain't going to see Private Ryan? Yeah. Yeah. Classic. I don't even remember what year that came out, but I know I saw it in the movie. 98. I know I saw it in the movie I know I saw it in the movie I was at
Starting point is 00:58:27 wait 96 yeah I was a sophomore I was at Santa Monica guess who theater I went to go see it I remember now Magic Johnson Theater Magic Johnson Theater cause at that time I was dating this chick named Roxy
Starting point is 00:58:44 she might even see named Roxy. Yeah. She might even see this. Roxy, she stayed in the jungles. She stayed in the jungles in the third building because my mama was in L.A. at the time. This was when I was
Starting point is 00:58:52 at Santa Monica College. Right. My mama was in L.A. at the time. I saw Saving Private Ryan at Magic... It had to be Magic Johnson. It had to be
Starting point is 00:59:00 because I really couldn't go anywhere else. I had to stay within the area. Yeah, see? See, you went and saw Private Ryan. Yeah. I told my girl, she saw Lieutenant Big Nuts.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And you remember who you was dating way back then? Yeah. For real? Yeah. How do you remember way back in 1998? No, I was about... No, no, no, no, no, no, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:59:20 At that point in time, we had broken up. So I was single then. Okay, okay, okay. I was single. Yeah, no. You still Ocho. At that point in time, we had broken up. So I was single then. Okay, okay, okay. You still remember your partners from that long ago? Oh, man, I can tell you every girl by name. What?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Every girl that I've ever dated. That's impossible. Ocho. What, you wrote everything down? Ocho. I guarantee you I can tell you every girl I've had sex with, damn near by name. You dead ass? That's impossible, Unc.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Oh, hell no. You bullshit. Man, boy, you driving. Ocho. You driving. Ocho, let me tell you. You bullshit. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Unc, that's impossible. Ocho, I don't forget a name, a face, or an incident. Unc, I can't even fathom. Like, that's, that's, do you know how crazy that sounds? From Savannah State, no, forget that. From high school, Savannah State. Oh, Glimmer, I can tell you every girl I can tell you name I can damn near
Starting point is 01:00:27 tell you the day of the week that we had sex how do you remember that that's like okay okay I only had sex on days the end of Y all of the...
Starting point is 01:00:45 Come on, man. Listen. I ain't never heard nobody say that. I mean, there's some I wish I could forget. They were good and terrible. I understand that. But the fact that you could even recall from that long ago, that is commendable. Because I can't remember nothing from high school.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I can't remember nothing from Santa Monica College. Oh, yeah. Oh can't remember nothing. Really? I can't remember nothing from Santa Monica College. Oh, yeah. Oh, please. Now, boy. God. Hey, hey. Somebody tried to spit the block. For real?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Nah, hell no. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I never know high school or college, man. Hell no. You just never know? You never wanted to rekindle a flame? Never mind, never mind. I don't want to get you in no trouble.
Starting point is 01:01:43 But okay. Mm-mm. Damn, that's crazy. No. You got a great, you got good memory, boy. Oh, yeah. For sure. Good memory. Damn. I mean, I've had women
Starting point is 01:01:56 come up to me and talk about, oh, you remember me? Where I remember you from? Oh, I swear. And people think I'm lying. But they come and say, oh, you know, we had sex. I said, nah, baby. We ain't have no sex. Because I can tell you. We ain't have sex, dude.
Starting point is 01:02:11 She break it down, no? No. Oh, they be lying. They be lying. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. I mean, I'm sure had I not been who I had, I not become who I became. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:02:27 They would have never came up to me and said that. Anything, right. But because, and I guess they done told their girlfriends or they told somebody. Yeah. Even though some of them, oh, yeah, your boy. And look here. When I say I was hell. When I was well.
Starting point is 01:02:46 When I was well. Right. Vegas. When they say, hey, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Yeah. Boy. Ocho. Yeah, see, I don't, I didn't, maybe I missed out. You missed out. That's what Ocho, that's why I'm saying I don't I didn't mean I maybe I missed out.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You missed out. That's why I don't need to go nowhere. That's right. But I'm saying during even in my day, in my in my prime, my prime years in Cincinnati, my prime years in the offseason, I don't go nowhere. And I think I don't think I missed out on anything. Just like the Vegas, the trips, you know, the D.R. trips. I love hearing the stories with the fellas. I ain't never been to DR. I need to go. I ain't do none of that. I ain't do none of that. Dude, even doing my prime. Video games,
Starting point is 01:03:34 cigar bar, jazz club. That's it. And whoever I was dating, like anything outside of that, every blue moon because of my friends I was with and I wanted them to be able to have a good time enjoy themselves experience things they would never experience if they weren't friends of mine every blue moon oh i don't know what it's like i don't know what it's like to go to vegas with the fellas and have a good time you know i do just see i feel like i missed out on
Starting point is 01:04:01 something maybe i didn't but i enjoy hearing the stories. I love it. Here in Miami, everybody done been to booby trap. Everybody done been to club live. I done been here all my life. I ain't been to live yet. Why haven't I been to live? We need to go to live, Ocho. We got to go to live. Oh, no. Boy, you see them prices?
Starting point is 01:04:19 Absolutely not. What kind of prices? Man, man. Ridiculous. And I love. You got to pay to go in? I love Dave Ruttman, but I don't drink alcohol. I don't need no section.
Starting point is 01:04:35 No, I don't want no section. We got to do something before we get it kicked off. I mean, but we can go to Booby Trap. I ain't never been. I like hearing the stories about Booby Trap. You know, I heard they got good food. We can go to Tootsie's. Now, I frequent Tootsie's all the time with Real. Me and Real go
Starting point is 01:04:53 upstairs, VIP, Tootsie's, shoulder rub. I did eat dinner. Listen, they got good dinner now. Shrimp fried rice, seafood rice with lobster tail, calamari on the side, cake. Look what's the tail. Itafood rice with lobster tail. Calamari on the side. Look with the tail. There ain't no lobster, though.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Hey, oh, so we going to do something before we... Yeah, I'll come. I'll swing through. You coming to Miami? I'll come to Miami. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I got somebody. Oh, so they take... Look, look, look.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Look at here. Look at here, look. Look at here. Look at here, Real. Real! Come here. What's up, Real? I'm coming to Miami. Me and Ocho will hit the town. I'm going to take you out,
Starting point is 01:05:35 because he don't go outside. See, I told you. He don't go outside. I don't go nowhere. Well, you're going to be outside. Yeah, I'm going to go this time. It's like it's a fella's trip. It's a fella's trip. She just trying to intervene. Yeah, no, no, no. Real outside. Yeah, I'm going to go this time. It's like it's a fella's trip. It's a fella's trip.
Starting point is 01:05:45 She just trying to intervene. No, no, no. Rel bait. See, Rel bait. Rel bait. No, no. Yes, we got this face. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Rel bait. That's my uncle. You know, she goes, who is that, Rel? That's my uncle. Okay, okay, okay. No, I'm the matchmaker, though. I'm the matchmaker. Let Rel work her magic.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Look, that's my uncle. He ain't here for a long time. He here for a good time. Stop. Who dare you? See what I'm saying? Don't you see Real? Hey, matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that to our matchmaker.
Starting point is 01:06:17 At the gym. You know, I work out at the gym every morning. Yeah. And, hey, what area is that? Davie. In Davie. Yeah. I saw somebody you would have liked. I asked, I say, miss, I apologize.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I'm sorry to bother you, but are you married? She said, no, I'm not married. But listen, I have someone, a potential that I would like you to meet. His name is Unc. And she's like, who is Unc? She smiled and she laughed. She obviously, she must watch the show. I said, Shannon.
Starting point is 01:06:47 She said, oh yeah, I've met Shannon before. And she smiled and finished the workout. I swear, I swear. Hey, I swear for God. Hey, listen, rest in peace. My mama, rest in peace. I swear for God. And this was just about maybe three days ago.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Three days ago. I think she might be a doctor. Might be a doctor. Looks like kind of Filipino and Asian-ish, but black as well. I don't know if you remember, if you can recall. Very cool. Very cool. And when I mentioned your name, she lit up like a light bulb.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Oh, yeah. I met Shannon. I met Shannon, you folks. She lit up. And then she went on. She had nice legs. Oh, I ain't look at... Man, Rell right here. Rell! Rell saw. Rell, you saw? How she look, Rell? You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 01:07:32 All the ladies who go to my gym, they all got nice legs. Ooh! Ocho, you know how I like my legs? Wait, she... If my mama say She's kind of tall though Like maybe
Starting point is 01:07:46 I know I say You know how I like my legs How you like them Beat at the bottom Who hard to talk That's how I like my legs You know what I'm saying Ocho That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:07:53 Right there Ocho Don't go no farther Don't go no farther than that Right there Ocho Hey She was She was cool She was cool
Starting point is 01:08:01 I was like And I was respectful first Because most of the people They are married, right? See, I said, are you married? She said, no, I'm divorced.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Boom, perfect. I got somebody. I got somebody I want you to meet. And say, as soon as I said, I said, you said, who was on?
Starting point is 01:08:17 I said, you know, Shannon. But she lit up and smiled, smiled big. I met Shannon a while ago and went on about her business.
Starting point is 01:08:29 We're international. We're global. Yeah, we're global now. We're everywhere. Hold on. I think we found her. I think we found her. Hold on. Hold on. We found her.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Real found her. Yes, sir sir There it is Yep Yep Hey, send a picture Hey, send a picture Send it to my phone It's her birthday
Starting point is 01:08:54 Send it to his Send her Instagrams Yeah Hey, it's her birthday today too Yep How do you know How do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, it ain't that many people anyway. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Yeah. All right. I got you. You owe me one for this too now. Yeah, yeah, I owe you. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to get you back in there. I'm going to get you back in there good.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You know, you boy. Yeah, you boy. You know, if anything, Ochoa, I ain't. I give him a lick and a promise. I hear the lick today. I promise. I give you more tomorrow. That's all I got for you.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Oh, Joe. No, but I'll get your lick today. I promise. I do better tomorrow. That's all I got. I got to use that.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I get your lick and a promise. I get your lick today. And I promise. I promise I do more tomorrow. Yeah. That's all I got. That's a I give you a lick and a promise. I give you a lick today, and I promise you... And promise I do more tomorrow. Yeah, that's all I got. Hey, that's a good one right there. Oh, that's... Ocho, UConn star Paige Beckers has signed a first-of-a-kind NIL deal with the new unrivaled basketball league.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Her deal makes her the first college athlete... Huh? What'd you say, Ash? Oh, my bad. Okay, I missed the story. Sorry. Katie Ledecky is weighing in on pool cardinal rule. Olympic swimmer sat down with comedian Leslie Jones for a chat about at the 2024 Summer Olympic, where she was asked point blank if she ever peed in the pool.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Katie is insistent that she never does. Hold up. Katie is insistent that she never does. Hold up. It's insistent that she does not pee when in the water, no matter what. But she better than me because I sold peed in the pool when I was when I was growing up. Yeah, that way you can't go to the public pools, man. Yeah, I ain't just like, hey, there's a reason they put chlorine in there.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Not enough. Not enough. Nah. there's a reason they put chlorine in there not enough nah listen I ain't been to the public pool in so long I'm glad I got my own pool here I don't even get in that man but you know the people pee in the pool they don't drop logs in the pool they be floating like little submarines
Starting point is 01:10:59 come on man but what pool they do that in people do do in the pool maybe the babies chat y'all better tell him home, man. But what pool? What pool they do that in? People do it in the pool. Nah, nobody do it in the pool. Maybe the babies. Hey, chat. Y'all better chat. Y'all better tell it. I ain't never heard of that now. Yeah. In the pool?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yes. Nah, maybe. I'm talking about little kids. Yeah, but I'm saying kids. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But you know what, kid? That kid probably like somewhere between 10 and 15 did some mess like that. You know grown folks don't like to get out of no pool.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I'm thinking about, you getting out, you in the pool, you think I'm finna get out and go all the way to the bathroom and I'm already in the pool? Nah. Yeah, you got to do that, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Don't be nasty. Nah, but I ain't been in the pool in the mountain spot when I was a jet, when I was a shorty. I ain't even saying a lie. You know? Yeah, oh, yeah. I ain't been to it. Man, I ain't been to it. Man, I ain't saying lie. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Oh, yeah. I ain't been to it. Man, I ain't been to it. Man, I ain't been in a pool. Ooh, Lord. I'm trying to think when the last time I've been in a pool. I can tell you the last time I've been in a pool. Olympic-sized pool at Charles Hadley Park.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And that's been years. Years. I tell you what. Last time I've been in the pool probably about 92 god damn can't you even my brother had a pool party remember i told you oh yeah daytona yeah she can't die you know i've hit so yeah that was it can you think you can still swim it's been as long as well yeah for sure okay oh yeah because we are like we used to have a thing uh if you went to savannah state you know about orange crush and i think they try to relive it now but uh dude had a boat i was the only one that could swim out to the boat because the boat could only come so close to
Starting point is 01:12:39 the water right because they get grounded so i was really the only one that could swim out to the boat get in the boat you know we did i jump out swim back to shore yeah for sure okay okay okay okay yeah but no going nobody no peeing in the pool nah okay again uconn star page beckers have signed a first of a kind nil deal with the new unrival Basketball League. Her deal makes her the first college athlete with ownership, equity, and a professional league. She will also play in the Unrival League as well as the WNBA after her college career ends. Unrival is a three-on-three women's basketball league that will begin play in January of 2025
Starting point is 01:13:25 and was founded by WNBA stars Breonna Stewart and Nafisha Collier. It will feature 30 players on six teams in a three-on-three compressed full court. Wow, style of play. The league wants to give players a domestic alternative to play in the WNBA offseason. What do you think, Ochoa? Yeah, I like that. I like that. Giving the ladies the outlet so they don't have to travel all the WNBA offseason. What do you think, Ocho? Yeah, I like that. I like that. Giving the ladies the outlet
Starting point is 01:13:46 so they don't have to travel all the way overseas to be able to recoup some of the income that they're missing out on and give them the chance to do that and stay home is perfect.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I think it's a great idea. I think it's a great idea for them having to travel all the way across the water. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, you stay here and you can enjoy this league.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I think she signed an Ocho. Didn't she sign a Nike deal? Ash, didn't she get a Nike deal also? You, wait, while she was still in college? You could do that?
Starting point is 01:14:14 I think she got, I think she has her own, doesn't she have her own Nike shoe thing, Ash? Okay, okay. Yeah, the Nike deal, yeah. Okay. That's dope, that's dope, that's dope that's dope that's i like that
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