Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron powers Team USA past Germany, Team WNBA beats Team USA
Episode Date: July 23, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are BACK! On tonight's episode, they react to LeBron James going GOAT mode to lift Team USA over Germany in their final exhibition before the 2024 Paris Oly...mpics, King James being named the flag bearer for America, Team WNBA beating Team USA behind an MVP performance from Arike Ogunbowale, and Baltimore Ravens coach John Harbaugh sticking up for Lamar Jackson.03:40 - Introduction03:45 - Show Starts21:16 - Lebron saves USA33:37 - Lebron Flag Bearer for Opening Games41:05 - WNBA all stars beat Team USA53:26 - Lamar Jackson(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Where we at, baby? Yeah.
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That's what I'm talking about.
Bro, we back.
That's the way you make an entrance.
Huh?
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It's so good to be back, Ocho.
Yeah.
How you and Rel spend the last six weeks, Ocho?
I mean, we ain't been at it.
You and Rel,
how y'all been doing?
Boy, we've been beefing, boy.
We've been beefing.
About what?
Listen, I mean, man,
a little bit of everything.
That's why I was so upset.
I was so upset
when we went off
and, you know,
it's different.
You know, I know a lot of people
out there in our relationships
and most of the time,
you know, we don't talk about
the bad
we always gravitate to the good
and everything always being happy
but we've been beefing
we don't unfollow each other at all
listen I done took all the
what y'all beefing about
it's relationship shit
you know it's fiance
and wife shit like marriage shit it's relationship shit you know it's it's fiance and and and and and wife shit like like marriage
shit like just be it's getting serious now it's the countdown yeah hey now listen to me let me
tell you how serious it is let me tell you how serious it is you know how i am about my gaming
equipment and my gaming and my tvs and my pc and all that right yes. We were beefing to the point, right? I took all my,
I took my whole setup.
I took my whole gaming setup
and I went to my grandma's house
for four, five days.
What?
Yeah, I don't,
I don't, I don't,
listen, I don't,
listen,
I'm not combative.
I love, I love my baby.
I love my baby to death, right?
But just like,
I just needed,
I need to,
I need to exhale for a little bit. I need to breathe for a little bit i need to breathe a little bit you feel me right you know and i had i see nightcap
would have been my outlet i didn't have i i didn't have nightcap and i needed nightcap i needed you
so i had no outlet so instead of me going back and forth with this one what did i do i took a mental
reset i took a mental break. And then I came back
after four or five days,
you know, at my grandma's house.
You know, it felt a little weird
with her not being there.
You know, it felt weird
sleeping in that bed again,
you know.
I haven't been there
since I was a shorty,
but I'm back.
I'm feeling good.
The show is back.
And here she go.
Here she go.
What's up, Real?
Real, tell your side
of the story, Real.
Where Real at? Real, tell your side of the story, Real. Where Real at?
Real, tell your side of the story.
You know, I always say, a lie don't kill. Who tell it? His ass
was bored. He didn't have nothing else to
do but get on my last
nerve. I'm working hard.
And since nightcap is not going on,
football season hasn't started yet,
he don't have shit to do but get on my
nerve. And he's mad because I'm not giving him the attention
that he needs and wants because I'm working.
Right.
He want to start arguments.
I'm like, you need to go.
Right.
I mean, somebody got to work.
Everybody can't be on vacation at the same time, real.
Exactly.
So I'm glad Nightcap has started.
He has something to do so he can get out my hair.
But y'all got it figured out now.
We y'all good now, right?
We good.
No, no, no, no, no.
I told him don't follow me no more.
No, no, no.
We ain't good because
you know how,
listen, I ain't follow up
back yet on Instagram.
I ain't follow back on Twitter.
I archived all her pictures.
You know, she archived
all my pictures.
And when we gonna go to therapy, we're going to go to
therapy. Damn.
Y'all ain't even got mad yet. You already in therapy?
This shit's serious, man, because
listen, I'm here for the long haul.
So she needs to understand that.
So if we're going to do this for the long haul, listen,
there are certain obstacles and hurdles that we need to get over
before we walk down that goddamn
aisle, honey, because I'm not going to be the one to play. I ain't going to play that shit. Well, I think the thing is, Ocho, hurdles that we need to get over before we got walked down that goddamn aisle honey because i'm not going to be the one to play i don't play that shit well i think the
thing is ocho is that you have to understand you understood that she had a job right that required
a lot of her time yeah but you got to also understand when you got when y'all got together
right you weren't doing anything three, four times a week. Right.
And so now you needed something to fill that void.
And so you're like, well, baby, fill that void.
She said, no, I got work to fill.
You keep talking about you want to be a stay-at-home dad.
Somebody got to pay these bills up in here.
Right.
Listen, she the one paying them.
I respect that.
I respect that, right?
But listen, at the same time, this is very important, especially people in the chat.
This is what you got to do. We always glorify. We always glorify all the good.
You want to know all the good about a person when all the good.
So for me, I pull the trigger on getting the ring and want to propose and say, you know what?
I learned all the bad about all the bad about her, all the bad because everybody got a bad side.
All the everybody do. Yeah.
That's why I don't know why when people meet each other,
they try to put on this facade, like they just so perfect. No,
I don't want to know the good.
Let me know the bad to see all the non-negotiables and some of the things
that I can deal with. And I'm willing to.
How much can I tolerate?
That's what you need to know. And that's what I've done.
So it kind of, it kind of got to me a little bit.
Cause I wanted some attention. You know, sometimes, you know, I ain't had no show. I ain't
had no outlet. Right. So I needed that and she couldn't provide
me with that. No. So I was hot. I was 38 and hot.
Ocho, what did you tell the women?
Look, I can bring work home, but I can't take you to work.
She can't take you to work, Ocho.
She got to get themselves.
She got to do, she got a business to run now.
Yeah.
Because just imagine now, if she was on the other foot,
you in football season.
Yeah.
And she ain't got, and she, and all of a sudden,
something happened and transpired, and she all up,
but you, well, we ain't doing nothing, Ocho.
Hey, I need you to give me some attention.
What you going to say?
She will put her right there in the stands.
Nah, she don't want to be in the stands.
She want your attention.
She ain't got your attention in the stands.
73 of them, 25 other, that's all Cincinnati got.
35 other thousands got your attention.
She ain't got your attention.
Don't do that.
Yeah, but listen, we working though.
We working.
It's a work in progress. It's a work in progress. I i'm glad i think to myself right oh i look too good to be putting up
with this bullshit now right i look too good now i was on no no no no no at this junk you might
hey you done been in this thing for five years you ain't really trying to learn somebody over
here i ain't talking about that oh well i ain't going nowhere. Oh, whoa, time out. Hold on, hold on.
Let's stop the motherfucking train.
Listen, she has provided me a lifestyle
that ain't nobody else finna give.
I ain't going nowhere.
Right.
I'm just addressing...
I wouldn't went to my grandma's house.
Huh?
I'd have said, baby, hey,
you upstairs in the master bedroom,
I'm downstairs.
Oh, no.
We're going to figure it out.
We're going to be like... Oh, Joe, we're going to be like passing trains in the night. Oh, downstairs. We're going to figure it out. We're going to be like passing
trains in the night.
No, I wasn't doing that.
I needed my space in the mental
reset. I was with my little brother.
I know my little brother Chauncey
watching. Chauncey, I appreciate you baby.
You got 10,000 square feet. You got
space. Tell them the real reason why
you went to...
Why I left?
I went to a party left? He got mad
I went to a party
The tequila was talking
Oh shit
Oh yeah this was the last straw
Oh
She went to a party with a homegirl
Right?
And hit me on the phone at the party
It was like 1230
Baby I'm on that Don Julio.
You better be
ready when I get home.
This motherfucker came home
and went straight to sleep.
I was hot.
Listen, I ain't want to put
the bidders out there, but since she bought it,
that was the final straw.
He have to keep it real. He over here lying.
I'm going to tell the truth of why he really went to his
girl. You don't. How are you going to tell me
I didn't took a shower.
I didn't lotioned up.
I got ready. So I'm
okay. Boom. I done prepared myself
but I'm going to wear her ass
out mentally.
So she come home.
She's staggering the door.
So I pretend like a hold on. I pretend like I'm asleep though. I pretend like I'm asleep. So she come home, she's Staggering the door, so I pretend
Like, hold on, I pretend like I'm asleep though
I pretend like I'm
Sleep, so she get in the bed
So I'm waiting over to make a move, like
Touch my thigh or something, just
Touch me, do a little something, let me know you ready
For that action, right
I let five minutes
Go by, I'm pretending like I'm still asleep
All of a sudden, all I hear is
I'm like like I'm still asleep. All of a sudden, all I hear is,
I'm like, oh, hell no.
I ain't say nothing.
I put on my little slats.
I put on my slats and I cleared it.
Because it was going to be an argument.
I didn't want to argue.
Let me ask you a question.
What did you tell me?
You don't let the defense dictate what you're going to do.
Why you let her dictate?
You on offense.
You dictate that.
When you see a promotion on TV, right, and you read what it say,
and that's what you're expecting based off what you read on the promo,
don't send me no damn dream like Martin Luther King.
You call my phone.
You don't even have to call me. You don't even have to call. Don't call me and send me no damn dream like Martin Luther King. You call my phone. You don't even have to call me.
You don't have to call.
Don't call me and send me no dream.
Talk about, oh, when I get home, you better be ready because I'm on this Don Julio.
I don't even know Don.
And I don't know no nigga named Julio.
So I'm getting ready.
Julio Jones.
Yeah.
I done took a shower.
You not understanding the preparation and the steps I went through. Yeah, you read it.
I don't know why you act like you was playing.
Because I just want to.
Because that's what women be doing.
That's all.
You see, Ocho, what did I tell you?
One of the biggest causes of breakups.
Uncommunicated expectations.
Right.
You were expecting her to make a move.
Right.
She was expecting you to make a move.
And ain't nobody communicate nothing. Remember, I told you that, Ocho. See? Uncommunicated expectations. You were expecting her to make a move. She was expecting you to make a move. And ain't nobody communicate nothing.
Remember I told you that, Ocho.
Uncommunicated expectations.
You see what she just said?
She communicated her, right? She communicated
when she called my phone knowing I was sleeping at 12
30 at night when I'm normally not
up at that time. So why would you get me
aroused with that type of excitement knowing I'm
already sleeping for one and then tell me what
you're going to do and what to be prepared for once you get home and you get home and you go to sleep i tell you what
you and do y'all have vultures y'all have buzzards flying around do y'all have those
flying around we in miami we only got flamingos and peacocks okay anybody from the south y'all
know what i'm talking about like when there's a dead animal like laying down you see the vultures
the buzzards right right hovering right. They're hovering over.
Yes, sir.
If you pretend
that you dead,
one of them will come
knock fire from you.
Mm-hmm.
So,
hey,
why she pretended
like she was leaked,
you should have
knocked fire from her.
Nope,
because she wasn't pretending.
You don't sell me no dream.
You don't act like you,
you don't act like
you on Demon Time
and you finna get filthy with it
and then come home,
oh, I had,
she hit me with a,
oh, I had a headache.
What?
Excuse me?
Huh?
See, that's the problem.
I don't mean that.
She done never made it to the bed.
She done never made,
she wasn't even supposed to make it to the bed.
You supposed to be standing behind the door,
butt ball.
You don't understand.
From that point on,
I'm not sure when that was.
We've been beefing ever since.
I done unfollowed her.
I done took all her pictures down.
Like, you ain't finna play with me like that.
Don't play with me like that.
Don't serve me no drink.
You know what?
You couldn't even just hit.
You didn't even have to hit my phone.
You could have came home with the sleep.
I wouldn't have said nothing.
It wouldn't have been no problem.
I packed up all my shit.
It wasn't nothing in this damn office except that goddamn sign back there.
I took everything to my grandma's house.
I had to help.
I was trying to stand on business.
I wish somebody,
I wish somebody would have called me
and told me,
hey,
because I'll be standing in the cameras.
Soon as the car pull up in the driveway
and the light cut off,
oh, that's for me.
Downstairs I go,
hey,
hey,
hey,
when she open the door,
baby arm right there. When she open the door, Joey door baby all right there listen listen this is the lesson it's a lesson learned it's a lesson learned for her it's a
lesson learned for me despite the lack of communication in this instance in this in
this situation we scrape we cool like a scale of one to ten we about a six because I ain't
followed back on none of my socials yet. But I bet you I bet one thing.
I bet this shit won't happen again.
Bet it won't happen again.
It won't happen.
It wouldn't happen.
No time.
Shit.
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Okay, Ocho, first segment of the night.
It's time for Newscap.
39-year-old Go James.
You already got it.
Huh?
Oh, my bad.
I forgot. I forgot.
Hey, hey, hey.
There it is.
My bad, guys.
Have a little rust.
It's been about six weeks.
Although, ain't been no nightcap in six weeks.
But trust me, your boy been working.
Newscap.
39-year-old Go James had to save the team from a historic upset.
South Sudan on Saturday led the way down the stretch.
I think he had 11 points in the fourth minute span
in the fourth quarter against Germany today.
Let's take a listen to what LeBron had to say.
Hey, y'all.
Great job to close out the preliminary game.
We saw some adversity.
We're just good.
We've been down two games in a row,
and that's going to be good for us. Like Katie just
said, the world just begins now.
All right? We got six games, but there's one
game at a time, all right? We're going to be perseverance again,
y'all. Go! One, two, three,
go! That's the goal. No matter
how close it is, at the end of the day, look,
you play to win. Whether you win
by 45 or you win by
one, as long as you win the game.
I think LeBron,
oh, Joe, you know, when you go to the Pro Bowl,
you want to show everybody, I'm the real deal.
Yes, sir. I know everybody else here is the
real deal also. Yes, sir. I'm not trying to
diminish anybody, but sometimes I
think y'all forgot because I'm
39, because I haven't been to the
NBA Finals, and you hear about Giannis,
and you hear about Jokic, and you
hear about Luka, and you got Ant-Man, and you hear about Giannis and you hear about Jokic and you hear about Luca and you got Ant-Man, you got JT, but y'all know, y'all,
y'all know, y'all know who I am. Y'all know what I am.
And he showed that there's a pride level and there's still,
I'm still LeBron James.
And when I need to pull this Cape out and down the stretch against Sudan,
I can do it.
He needed to pull the Cape out.
And today against Germany,
remember Dennis Schroeder was,
I think the fever most valuable player last year,
right?
Germany have NBA players.
I think the suited South suit,
uh,
the Sudanese,
they got to,
I think when you're Gabriel and another guy on that team that was in the,
uh,
in the,
uh,
the Charlotte,
the Bobcat camp,
but Lebron was
sensational now you're gonna get the people that try to diminish him because here's what they're
gonna say jordan would have never been in that situation colby would have never allowed that to
happen right all i'm saying is what what about those other guys that's on the team y'all do
realize steph curry joe ellen b jason tatum devin booker ant-man all those other guys are on the team y'all do realize steph curry joelle and b jason tatum devin booker
and man all those other guys are on the team yeah why they let it happen yeah i mean these these are
our best players that are representing our country i like to see lebron elevate his game at a level
like that that we're accustomed to seeing normally here in the states but doing it representing our
country is a great thing but i have have one question to ask. Obviously, against
Sudan, it was a close game.
They trailed in the fourth quarter. Against Germany,
again, they trailed in the fourth quarter
until LeBron worked to the end.
So I'm asking you, Unc, because you have a better
knowledge of the game than I do, especially
when it comes to
the Olympics and the USA
playing against other teams.
So is it more so that the NBA player,
do you think they're having a hard time adjusting to the international rules?
Or is the rest of the world finally catching up to us in the game of basketball?
Well, they're catching up, Ocho, because they're playing.
I mean, you got to understand, think about how many,
when the NBA players first went back to the Olympics in 92,
you really only had two guys.
You had,
you had,
uh,
Tony Kukoc.
Yeah.
I think you had Sharuna's Barcelona,
some Barcelona's.
And I think you had,
uh,
what's,
uh,
the seven footer from Sacramento,
his dad,
so bonus.
So you might've had three guys other than the NBA players that were in the
NBA.
But if you go to every team now for the most part there is an nba player maybe one or two that's on the team daniel tice
plays in the nba dennis schroeder plays in the nba the rules are different they let you get a
little bit more physical right you can go tend the ball uh the rules are a little different but there's
no excuse plus those guys have been playing together those guys grow up playing together
from the time they're like seven eight years old they're playing together and so they've been
practicing for about two months right oh so the chemistry so obviously their chemistry can be
much much better than those of the U.S. team.
Okay. Okay. So
we have nothing to worry about. We have
nothing to worry about. I'm not going to say we don't have anything to worry about.
So the fact that these games are so close
though, we trailing. Yeah.
We're trailing against Sudan. We're trailing against Germany.
So are these bumps in the road?
There's nothing to worry about with that.
I don't think the
lineups that we've been going out there with, I think kevin durant is probably going to be in the starting lineup
they they got to do a better job of taking care of the basketball they're turning the ball over
entirely too much and sometimes when you get a collection of great players together they try to
well i'm not selfish and you overpass the basketball or you try things that you probably
wouldn't normally try.
Right.
But, no, I definitely think, can they be beat?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
On one game, anything can happen.
Right, right. But I love the way they're becoming battle-tested.
You look at Devin Booker had not shot the ball well.
He was 1 for 6.
LeBron was 8 of 11.
Joel Embiid was 5 of 8.
Holiday was 4 of 6. Steph was 5 of 6. LeBron was 8 of 11. Joel Embiid was 5 of 8. Holiday was 4 of 6. Steph was
5 of 13. Ant-Man
was 4 of 7.
JT was 2 of 6. Bam, 2 of
4. AD, 3 of 5.
They just got to do a
better job of protecting the basketball.
And if they do a better job protecting the basketball,
I think they'll be fine.
But, you know, look, Canada
Canada's littered with NBA players.
They got Shea Gildress.
They got Dylan Brooks.
They got Powell.
They got a lot of guys.
Alexander Walker.
They probably got six or seven guys that's on an NBA roster.
I think that's going to be Germany.
It's going to be a tough test.
I think probably you might see Canada or Germany.
I mean, Canada is in that death pool.
They got a really tough bracket to come out of.
But they're going to be fine.
All right.
Hey, Chad, y'all heard it there first.
USA basketball is going to be fine.
But, Ocho, it's just like anything.
If you think about it you do something
long enough eventually they're gonna get better at it they do it too that's what when when david
stern had this idea so you know what i want to open up i want to make this a global game
and i want to open it up and you see the dirt in the biscuits and you see the guy, all those young guys. They're like,
man,
I want to do that.
And then you see it in 96 and you see it in 2000 and you see now all of a
sudden they're like,
hold on,
wait a minute.
You mean to tell me I can do something other than play soccer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
As,
as when you Gabriel said,
look,
we got seven footers and they're hurting cattle.
Oh, so he's like, hold on.
These guys are like, hold on.
I don't want to do it.
I want to dribble.
Let me start dribbling a basketball.
Right, right, right.
Opening up borders.
So I'm glad that the U.S. has been battle tested because you hate to be in a situation, Ocho, where you haven't been tested.
Right.
And then the first time you get tested is in the knockout round.
Yes.
So now they know, hey, okay, but go James.
You see, hey, they put the ball in his hands,
and he's going to make the right play.
He's either going to, hey, I'm going to drive and I'm going to kick.
I'm going to get all the way to the hole.
I trust this three-point ball.
He's had the three-point ball go in the last couple of games.
But when he puts his head down, it's kind of hard.
Ain't nobody stopping that.
Yeah, he's like a bull in the china shop there.
Ain't nobody stopping that.
But LeBron said, hey, I do.
I think the adversity is good. but look this is not angola
that us is not gonna beat these teams like the original dream team was beating teams by 80 points
right and the guys had never the guys had just picked up a basketball and just qualified for
the limit those days are over yeah those days Those days are long, long gone.
And you have to be willing to accept.
Look at look at softball.
We used to be dominant women's softball team.
But guess what?
Japan, Australia, they started playing and they started playing and they got good. And some of those players came over here and played at UCLA and played at these other power
high school.
They go back over there and ta-da, they win gold medals now.
That's what happens.
You know what the funny thing about it is?
And for those of my soccer fans that are in the chat, as you see how all the other countries
are catching up to us when it comes to the game of basketball, I wish it could work in
reverse for us over here when it comes to soccer so we can catch up to the other countries
in the game of soccer, especially around World world cup time which we have coming up in 2026
oh joe we got american football they don't play that over there we got basketball they play that
over there we got baseball we got we got too many things like like jamaica jamaica tracking
track and field is their most popular sport.
Yes, sir.
So they don't play basketball.
They don't play football.
They don't play baseball.
All their focus is on that one thing.
Yeah.
So you look at a lot of these other countries,
they're focused because we have so much to do to focus on.
Right.
Well, I don't want to play soccer.
I want to play football.
I want to play basketball. I want to run track. I want to play on. Right. Well, I don't want to, I don't want to play soccer. I want to play football. I want to play basketball.
I want to run track.
I want to play baseball.
So when you have those things
and you can make money
at all of them,
Luca,
what did Luca want to do?
Luca,
originally Luca wanted to play,
want to play soccer.
Yeah.
Real life,
my man,
ain't a whole lot of six foot soccer,
six foot seven,
six foot eight soccer players.
Unless you're the goalie,
that's about it. Exactly. Same thingich 92 comes along they say hold on i'm tall
2000 come along i'm tall i can play that sport so when you have it's oh joe if you go to a
restaurant and all they have on the menu is that, well, you're going to get that.
But if they have a variety, I mean, it's hard.
Sometimes you go to, what, Cheesecake Factory, they got 15,000 items.
How the hell am I supposed to choose one thing?
Yeah, you're right.
But when you only have a choice to choose one thing.
Well, I just wish the choice was soccer for that for the for the most for the most part
because it's exciting it's exciting who boxing you know Americans we got a lot man oh yeah
so you're right you're right anyway I'm putting my beard out for the U.S. men's national team
we gonna win the world cup in 2026 I'm just throwing that out there i'm just throwing it out there now i hope so hold on can we get to the medal round before we start talking about winning
can we get to the medal round how about that come on don't do that man i know can we get to the
medal round this is our year we the whole we we are the host nation we for the win this we for
the win this what they got to do with it I don't know
I'm just
I got my fingers crossed
LeBron James
who was competing
in his fourth Olympics
was serving the flag bearer
for the United States
in the opening ceremony
of the Olympic Games
the opening ceremony
will be held Friday
at 1.30pm
Eastern Time
and we will be having
a live watch party
yeah
meanwhile KD doesn't seem doesn't seem right now Eastern Time and we were having a live watch party. Yeah. Meanwhile,
KD doesn't seem
right now.
He's upset about being left
out of the Nike's latest ad
commercial for the Olympics.
Even his business partner and agent, Rich
Kleiman, voiced complaint.
And for the win, just posted
the article saying Team USA should
have chosen Kevin Durant, not LeBron James, to be its Olympic flag bearer.
I mean, I would think so. Listen, I respect LeBron James and all that he has done.
But when it comes to the Olympics, that is, I don't know if I want to say it's separate.
It's a separate entity as opposed to NBA basketball.
This is Olympics basketball, obviously representing our country.
And Kevin Durant, who is obviously the all-time
leading olympic score with 435 points lebron is second no no mellow is second with 336 lebron is
third with 273 so i'm trying to have a better understanding on why they pick lebron obviously
and him being the best player stop right right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Go back.
Rewind.
Now ask yourself again,
why did they pick LeBron James to be the flag bearer
to lead their team in
and not Kevin Durant?
Ask yourself that question again.
I know why.
That's why I said
arguably the greatest.
I didn't get the chance.
You didn't give me a chance to finish.
The greatest NBA basketball player
to ever live
there's a conversation between him and Michael Jordan always yes but then I also want to separate
the fact that represent our country as well where Katie is the leading scorer maybe maybe it's a
conversation that can be had where he represents it himself. Well, you might you might not see it that way.
I'm just asking.
I'm trying to see why he's upset and I'm trying to see why his manager upset.
I think he's upset about the Nike ad.
Oh, he said the Nike ad.
He's not be upset about being the ring.
But the player.
OK, OK, OK.
He's upset about being left off.
He says, hold on.
Wait a second.
Why would they leave him off? LeBron James and I are the two biggest Nike
basketball players. Now you could make it say, okay, Greek freak. Okay.
But I believe LeBron and I are the two biggest
Nike athletes currently in the NBA.
I feel I should have been included
in that ad. Why would me?
Is that personal?
I don't work for Nike.
I'm not, you know, in the marketing, advertising department who pitched this campaign.
Didn't Kevin Durant have a lifetime contract with Nike?
He does.
He, LeBron, and Steph Curry are the only three current athletes that have lifetime contracts.
To me, that's a no-brainer.
To me, that's a no-brainer.
Well, clearly somebody didn't have a brain the higher-ups the higher-ups i think there
might be a personal vendetta or a personal situation because anytime you don't use one of
the greatest scorers of all time who is representing our country you don't use him in the olympic ad
that everyone's going to see that is personal i don't think it's oh joe the guy gonna get a billion dollars how you gonna somebody give you a billion dollars and they all of. I don't think it's personal. Ocho, the guy's going to get a billion dollars.
How you going to somebody give you a billion dollars
and they all of a sudden don't call,
don't call, let's just say for the sake of argument.
Somebody say, Ocho, we got you.
The being will say, Ocho,
for the next 50 years, we're going to pay you a billion dollars.
Okay, they have this
ceremony and you don't get no invite.
Man, they don't care nothing about me.
Run, they gave you a
million minus the money i'm still representing my country that means more to me donning the red
white and blue at the olympics in my country they didn't leave him home okay they didn't leave him
home he's there but the promote the promo of the ad yes because the ad the ad lives forever i get
it i get what i get what his frustration is because, like I said,
I believe he and LeBron are the two biggest Nike athletes,
basketball athletes, that we currently have.
That's on Nike's roster.
Obviously, Jordan is an entity of himself.
Kobe is no longer with us, but currently alive, LeBron and KD.
KD says,
and you know, hey, Ocho, you remember the ad? Everybody remember the Muppets
when it was KD, I'm just kidding, when it was
LeBron and Kobe.
I still have a t-shirt. Everybody
remember the ad with Penny, with
Chris Rock, with the boys, Lil' Penny.
That was dope. Remember that? You remember
the Bird magic and
the weapons or the Bird Jordan, the McDonald's.
So Katie understands that this thing is going to stay long, last a lot longer than he's going to live.
And I do believe he should have been included in the air.
But how many times have we seen people put our commercials or ads and we like.
Who is in that room to let y'all put this out?
Because the
undertones are
not what people might
construe.
Like, were they not any women
in the room? Were they not any blacks in the room?
Were they not a Hispanic, Latino?
So I'm saying
were they not anybody in the room that's they not a Hispanic, Latino? So, I'm saying, were they not
anybody in the room that's like, hold on, man.
Something ain't right here. Kevin Durant.
We ain't gonna have KD in this?
Not KD?
KD? We not?
Why?
That's why I said it got to be something.
It got to be something.
To even leave him out.
To even leave him out. To even leave him out.
When the discussion comes apart, when you have a meeting of that magnitude to have players or a commercial of players that are representing our country,
you don't have the all-time leading score for that country when it comes to Olympic basketball.
Not in the ad.
That is something personal.
I think, Ocho, I think when it comes to the Olympics, you go to the broader scale.
You try to, I mean, you look at some of the people that's the representation.
It's like LeBron, the global icon that he is.
I mean, you probably talk about Ronaldo.
You talk about Messi.
And then, I don't know, LeBron, Mbappe right there.
I mean, obviously, you know, Messi and Ronaldo, they here.
I mean, I think the only guy that can really challenge them is Jordan.
Jordan is the only guy that's on the Messi, Ronaldo scale, universal.
Anywhere he goes, he can go to a village in South Sudan.
He can go to the rainforest in Brazil.
Yeah. Michael Jordan. Right, right. Ronaldo, Messi. to a village in South Sudan. He can go to the rainforest in Brazil.
Michael Jordan.
Ronaldo. Messi.
They know. And I'm sure, like I said, and I
explained this to people, I just
wish, because I know how
athletes feel when they see Jordan.
I just wish that an average
person could see
it, could talk to it
to see what it's
like. I don't do it justice
because
everybody, Shaq said
it, AI said
it, LeBron has said it.
I'm talking about some of the biggest
names in the world said when they
met that man, he didn't seem
real. It seemed like he was
levitate. I'm telling you, Ocho,
I'm looking at this man, and I know this man is
thinking, look at this.
This mofo crazy. Because I'm looking at it
because he don't see. I'm like, I know who
it is. And I'm looking at it, Ocho.
I'm looking, looking.
I'm like, this man levitating.
He glow. Hey,
you know, what was that? The dragon with Bruce He glow. Hey, you know, uh, what was that?
Uh, uh, uh, the dragon with Bruce Leroy and you know how I showed up, started glowing.
Junior, when he started glowing, he had that phone.
That's not Jordan.
Look, Jordan looked just like that.
He glowing.
He levitating.
I can't, I can't explain it.
I can't explain it. I can't explain it. I guess
because I don't even want to be
sacrilegious, but I'm telling you,
man, it's an unreal
feeling that you get when you're
around that man. And I've been around
a lot of NBA players. I've been around
some of the biggest Hollywood stars.
Ain't nothing like him. Ain't nothing like
Jordan. I met him once
and I know exactly what you're talking about. I met him once and I know exactly what you're talking about.
I met him once and I know exactly what you're talking about,
but I can't put it in the words.
I can't even put it in the words, so I'm not even going to try.
Oh, no, you can't.
You got to.
The Last Dragon.
That's the name of the movie, Last Dragon.
Right, yeah.
Last Dragon, with Bruce Leroy.
And Shona.
Who's the master?
With the afro?
Yeah.
Ocho, Team USA lost to the WNBA All-Stars on Saturday
night, 117-109.
Brianna Stewart said it felt like
deja vu, and she wasn't wrong.
In 2021, the Olympic team
lost to the WNBA All-Stars in the
tune-up to Tokyo. They went on the cruise
to their seventh consecutive gold medal.
Just like 2021
exhibition, the Americans had no
answer for Arike
Ogumbamwale.
The MVP of Saturday night's game
scored all 34 points in the
second half of the victory. She's also
earned MVP honors in 2021.
Ocho,
I was at that game. Yes, sir.
The shot you had to be, I mean, I know you guys, a lot at that game. Yes, sir. The shot
you had to be, I mean, I know you guys, a lot
of you guys watched it on television.
Ocho, but it wasn't no open
shots. I'm talking about she,
I'm talking about she, Kyrie Irving,
pulling up with hands on her face,
falling out of bounds.
And now they hug up on her, she get around
them, she one-footing it.
Yeah, LaFleur does. around them. She one foot in it. Yeah. La Flotas.
Ocho, you had to see it.
Isn't it?
I'm there and I'm watching.
I'm looking at it.
I'm like, oh, that's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
Oh, that's good.
I told you my little experience when I went to Atlanta when they played The Dream, right?
And the only way I could describe her after not knowing how to pronounce her name was,
oh, she reminds me of Kyrie Irving.
The lateral movement, the quickness.
Erika Ogungunwale.
Oh, my goodness, boy.
She's nasty with it.
She's nasty with it.
Very, very, very, very good player.
Very, very good player.
Exciting to watch.
Very exciting.
Let me tell you this.
Having been there and to see it.
let me tell you this having been there and to see it i know a lot of the conversation has been about angel reese and caitlin clark and let me tell you something seeing them up close and personal
this is my second time seeing caitlin clark i saw uh in vegas uh about a month ago um when they when
she came and played the aces angel reja Reese has an elite skill set.
The basketball is like a magnet.
She's going to get it.
She'll attract it.
Every time.
She's going to get the basketball.
I don't know.
I mean, and there's Brianna Stewart right there.
There is Aja Wilson there.
She's going to get that ball.
Kaitlyn Clark has an elite skill set of passing the basketball.
Yes, sir.
She has an elite skill set.
I don't care what you think.
She can see things that other people can't on the court.
It's elite.
And I said both of the women will be successful for the one skill set that is elite.
One can pass the ball.
The other can rebound the ball.
But what has transpired is that if you like one, they want you to hate the other.
I refuse to do that.
I believe I can like Caitlyn Clark in her game and still love Angel Reese in her game.
I believe I can love Angel Reese in her game all the while loving Caitlyn Clark and what
she possessed. Y'all can't make
y'all. I don't have to choose
and it seems like they
want you to choose. Well, if you like Caitlyn
Clark, you're supposed to hate Angel. And
if you like Angel, you're supposed to hate Caitlyn.
Why?
I get it. It's the same thing with Bird.
I remember when Bird, I'm old enough to remember
Bird and Magic in 79 when they played in Salt Lake City.
And I know it was right down the middle.
The thing that you had,
what'd you have, Ocho?
One black, one white.
One black, yes, sir.
What do you got right now?
You got one white, one black.
Yeah.
So choose one.
Choose, hey, choose your combatant.
You know, when you play any video game, Ocho,
you get to choose your guy?
Yes, sir.
Choose him.
Nah, bro.
I'm rocking with both of them.
And having seen both of them against the best of the best.
This ain't no, okay, they got a few all-stars on one team.
No, no, no, no.
This was the national team.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm watching Kaitlin Clark pass the basketball looking like Magic Johnson. I'm watching Angel Clark pass the basketball looking like Magic Johnson.
I'm watching Angel Reese rebound the basketball like Dennis Rodman against the team that we Asia Wilson is the best player in the WNBA.
Yes. He's a two time MVP, about to be a three time MVP, a defensive player of the year.
Stewie is a two timetime MVP, finals MVP. So is Angel, Asia.
Man, Angel Reese is like,
I'm going to get that ball.
You remember Lonzo?
When Lonzo told what was
Ethan Hawke's character in training today?
He's like, we'll get that money.
I'm going to get that.
Jake.
Jake.
I'm going to get that money, Jake.
I need that money, Jake. Angel Reese and Asia. Stewie, I'm going to get that money Jake I need that money Jake
Andrew Reeves in Asia
Let's do it
I'm going to get that ball
Oh yeah
I'm going to get that ball
Listen
I'm not sure why
I mean obviously
It depends
If you are
A true fan of the game
You can appreciate
Both of their games
You can have an appreciation
Of both
Both of their styles of play
Each of them being different And the way they get things done.
Yes, yes.
There's no need to pick and choose between who you like and who you don't like, regardless of what narratives are spread.
Right.
Regardless of what narratives are said.
If you are a true fan of the game of basketball, you're going to have appreciation for both Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese, the way they get things done.
But man,
but man,
Reed was dancing out there, man.
I mean,
she was dancing.
Remember we had our own and she said,
I could kind of sense the way it was going.
It seemed like it was going to be clicked up.
Yeah.
I wasn't going to be a part of that click.
So I did.
This was our opportunity.
Y'all should have took your girl.
Yeah.
Oh,
definitely.
Most definitely took your girl. Cause y'all see what it is. Y'all see the fact. And this Yeah, most definitely. Y'all should have took your girl because y'all see
what it is. Matter of fact, and this is a
good thing. So I got a question for you. Since you
were able to witness the game,
you know who's representing us on
Team USA. So after
the All-Star game, who would you
swap out from Team USA
and then WNBA All-Stars?
You can't
swap out nobody now.
So you can't?
Hypothetically speaking,
if you were able to swap anybody out,
would you swap anybody out or did the committee
get it right in their team selecting?
What you were able to see?
I think the thing is that
these women that's on the squad
gave up a lot of their summer over
the last couple of years to play in the FIBA
and to play in the things like that.
And so it would be unfair to
them that they gave up their summers
and now all of a sudden someone
else that didn't give up their summer.
But Rike said, well, I just saw the way y'all was
trending and it wasn't trending like I was going to make
the team. So why the hell am I going to give up my summer
and I ain't going to be a part of this thing.
Right. Okay.
That's why I said it was hyper. just said hyper but at 28 ocho it's in it's in la i'm gonna be shocked if a if uh uh caitlin clark and angel reese are not on that squad
i'll be sure i'm sure they will be because imagine how much better they would have gotten
all around when it comes to their game they're're definitely, they definitely going to be on that squad.
Yeah.
Definitely.
It was special.
I'm glad I got an opportunity.
Matt Ishba,
the owner of the Mercury, he owns the Suns,
also had a great time
conversating with him.
It was great.
Man, the fans were unbelievable.
The women,
got a chance to talk to a couple of them
um talked to britney grinder um kelsey uh jewel lord who was on my who's on my uh celebrity all
star team she said okay i needed you man i needed your coaching i couldn't i couldn't buy a basket
at night um but i got an opportunity to see some of the some see some of the women i wish i wanted
to get an opportunity to talk to Stewart.
I wanted to meet Stewart, but he didn't really get close.
Didn't get close enough to me where I could get attention.
Right, right, right.
I'll see her.
I'm going to see her.
I got to get me some jerseys.
I want an Aja Wilson jersey.
I want a Breonna Stewart jersey.
You got to get him to sign it, though.
You got to get him to sign it. A. You got to get him to sign it.
Angel Reese, Kelsey Plum.
Who else I can get?
Rike.
I got to get a Rike jersey.
I definitely got to get that.
Hell yeah.
I got to get that one.
Yeah.
I'm going to have him.
Yeah, I'm going to get mine.
When I start mine, I'm going to make sure.
You know, when I'm going to get to the games, I'm going to ask him,
I want your game worn jersey. I want your game worn jersey. I want you to sign it. But you know when I'm gonna get to the games I'm gonna ask me I want your game worn jersey I want your game but you know what I don't feel bad because you
know the guys I'm like hey I need you to come up like that jersey but I'm sure they probably got
they probably got oh yeah yeah you know what when you get back to the back and take that off
have somebody bring that to me please yeah yeah I would need to get that. I would need to get that.
What's your signature on there?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
For sure.
But I'm going to give me about six of them.
I'm going to give me about...
Oh!
You know who I...
DT.
Diana Taurasi.
Yeah.
Got a chance to talk to her.
I met her in 2005
when the All-Star game was in Denver.
And she
been great.
She's been unbelievable.
If you don't get nobody, George, you got to get
that one.
That's when you know you're
great, when you still playing, and they
name stuff after you. They named the
court for her.
Man, it was unbelievable to see her to see her
play and to see all these these women on display because this is the best of the best this is i
don't know how many i think there's 12 women on the national team i think i don't know how many
all-star how many uh all-stars they were but you talk about at least let's just say 30 of the
greatest women basketball players in the world.
Yeah.
And then I got to see some of the OGs, Cheryl Swoop and a couple of the other ladies that played in the, you know,
because Cheryl, I think the first year Cheryl, the first year or two,
might be the first year Cheryl missed because she had a son.
She had a child.
But to see some of those women and take pictures with them, man, it was great. I mean, hold on i really had a great time you know who i want to meet who i haven't had a chance to
meet you ever had a chance to meet miss dawn staley i haven't i haven't i need to meet i need
to meet miss staley man i need to meet miss staley man i'm not sure i'm not sure why she just
she just just her aura man her energy her, man. It just seemed so,
so just, just, just perfect too. I just, I just want to have a conversation with her, man. That's
all. And she's someone I look up to from afar, obviously, because I haven't had the opportunity
to meet her, but, but, but she's dope. She's really dope, man. So I'm sure she's going to see
this. Miss Staley, I'm not sure if we ever cross paths, but you're the real deal. You're going to see this. Miss Daly, I'm not sure if we'll ever cross paths, but you're the real deal.
You're the real deal, sis.
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Okay, Ocho, John Harbaugh stood up for his franchise quarterback saying the criticism Jackson receives is head scratching Lamar for whatever reason he gets a lot of good things
said about him Lamar but there's a lot of stuff that said that you've just got to scratch your
head and kind of wonder what was that person even thinking? But we take it personally.
Harbaugh added, what does he have to do to prove himself to some people?
Ten quarterbacks have won multiple MVPs.
Peyton Manning, a five-time MVP, two Super Bowls.
Aaron Rodgers, a four-time MVP, a Super Bowl.
Tom Brady, three MVPs, seven Super Bowls.
Brett Favre, three MVPs, one Super Bowls. Brett Favre. Three MVPs.
One Super Bowl.
Another appearance.
Johnny Unitas.
I think Unitas won two, right?
Right.
Mahone Boy.
Two.
Three MVPs.
Kurt Warner.
Two.
Super Bowl MVP.
Lost two.
Steve Young.
Two-time league MVP.
Won one Super Bowl with a backup for 11.
Joe. We know Joe. And Lamar. league MVP won one Super Bowl with a backup for 11. Joe,
we know Joe and Lamar.
Lamar is the only one of those who
hasn't won a Super Bowl. He's
two and four in the playoffs.
For a two-time MVP, he's widely
considered only the fourth best quarterback in the
league right now.
We got to stop this, Ocho.
Ocho, you was in the
league when Peyton Manning couldn't get past Tom Brady,
and we killed him.
Yeah.
I was on air.
I was one of the guys that were killing him.
I was like, bro, you win an MVP.
You throw up a 48 touchdown, and you can't get out the first round.
Right.
I'm trying to figure out, what are we supposed to do?
Lamar plays great in the regular season,
but he's lost twice on his home field as the favorite.
The first year he's in the playoff as the favorite,
he lost to Tennessee.
He was the MVP unanimous.
He was one vote short again this year.
MVP.
Everybody talk.
We want to get my homeboys away from Arrowhead.
If we get him from Arrowhead, he can be had.
Right.
He went to Buffalo and kicked Josh Allen ass.
He came to M&T and beat Lamar.
What are we supposed to do?
Lamar didn't play well.
And in the games that he's lost, he hasn't played well.
When he plays well, we say that.
Why can't we say when he played bad, he played bad?
I know you know what it is, Ocho.
But I can't in good conscience.
I cannot go on TV.
My credibility is everything.
Right.
I cannot do it.
I cannot just because Lamar Jackson is black,
when he plays bad, say he's playing.
I think, I think,
I think what,
what horrible is talking about where he says,
Lamar Jackson has a chance to be arguably the,
one of the best,
if not the best quarterback to ever play this game.
I think that statement is true.
I think it can be factual.
You know what?
Even if he doesn't win a Lombardi trophy,
I think what he can do...
They're not going to put you in the top five without a trophy.
They don't want to put you in the top five without a trophy, Ocho.
Let me ask you a question.
Yes.
Is Barry Sanders in the top five?
For running back.
But see, the quarterback...
Who gets all the credit?
The quarterback.
The quarterback.
What is Dan Marino?
Dan Marino is not...
He's nowhere in your top five
they don't put that they don't put him there because he went to one he didn't get back so
you so i mean how do you put him over first of all how you put him over joe how you put him over
how you put him over my homeboy right i'm just asking but listen it's very it's very difficult
it's very difficult because you
have to understand this is the team game it's a team game yes and at time at times so when they
play a team ball when you want them mvps yeah when they win who gets the credit when they win
when they went to san francisco and they dropped that number on their head what did they say the
next day he's's the MVP.
Now when they lose, you talk about it's a team game.
You didn't say that when they won Christmas night.
That's not what you said.
Hey, that's the argument.
When it comes to quarterbacks, that's crazy how...
We judge every quarterback like that on show.
I know they do. It's crazy how the onus I know they do.
It's crazy how the onus of winning
and losing is always on their shoulders
when it took 10 others to help.
It's crazy how that works.
It's crazy how that works.
Let me ask you a question.
When Tom Brady came back from 28-3,
did y'all mention James White had 14 catches
for over 120 yards? No.
Did y'all mention that catch that
Edelman made?
That hit off a guy's helmet and he caught it?
That fought down?
Did anybody say anything about the
high tower hit on Matt Ryan
that caused the fumble?
It was all Tom Brady.
It's always been about the
quarterback. But now, when we
lose, we're going to talk about Lamar
ain't have help
lamar had who had the better receivers in and against uh the ravens or or or patrick mahomes
in kansas city you know let's be real we know who had the better receivers and the better
offensive line and the better defense and the defenses are comparable because the Chiefs defense
was legit
they got
a top five defensive player
they have the best defensive tackle
Stone Cold Chris Jones
is legit
he's the best at tackling football
the Ravens defense wasn't no slouch either
that's what I'm saying
they got two
linebackers that went to the Pro Bowl.
Kyle Hamilton
is one of the best safeties in football.
He might be number one.
Yeah. Well, I think number one
is young bull in Tampa now.
Young bull in Tampa.
Dante Wittner Jr., yeah.
Winfield, Winfield, Winfield.
Excuse me. Yeah, Winfield Jr.
Boy, he nice.
Yes.
He nice.
But Hamilton has the ability.
He can be a defensive player of the year.
Yeah.
He can sack your quarterback.
He can cover.
He can cover, yeah.
He can shut down the run.
He legit, legit.
Yeah.
But I'm saying, people, come on now.
When we give Lamar jackson credit
oh oh y'all do y'all on the bandwagon now no i don't i don't give praise when it's not due
if it's due i don't got no problem and i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong right got none
yeah hell if i was if i do you think if was perfect, guess what I wouldn't be doing this?
I'd have picked them lottery numbers when that thing got to two billion.
I'd have got all six of them numbers right on. Right, right, right.
Do this. Come on, people. Y'all know. Y'all know when Lamar didn't play well.
Y'all know he didn't play well. His first playoff game. Y'all know he didn't play well in the championship game. He had two turnovers.
Come on now.
Let's be fair about this thing.
When we kill Peyton, we obliterated Peyton.
I remember what they were saying about John Elway when I got to Denver.
He had lost three Super Bowls.
Look at the team that he was going with.
They didn't care.
They're like, hell, you got him there.
Win one of you. Right. Superbowls. Look at the team that he was going with. They didn't care. They're like, hell, you got them there, win one.
Right.
That's the way it goes because you get all
the credit when you win.
They don't mention anything.
They forget about those first two Superbowls.
They forget about
Vinatieri walked them off.
They talk about Tom in the drive.
Well, Tom put him in field goal range.
What if Tom didn't get it?
See?
You right.
Listen, I love Lamar, man.
I love Lamar Jackson, man.
Yes!
Hey, listen, Pompano's finest.
You hear me, y'all?
But Pompano, the best.
They ever come out of Pompano out here in Florida, man.
One of the best.
Obviously, forget the fact that I played for the Bengals.
I don't really care about that. I want to see Young Bull succeed.
I want to see him succeed
so he can get that monkey off his
back. Yes! So he can get that
monkey off his back. I
really want him to. I would love to see him host that
Lombardi one day so he can go
into conversation. And some of the things that Harbaugh
is saying will eventually be true.
That's it. Just one.
Think about how the narrative changed once Peyton Manning won one. Oh, true. That's it. Just one. Think about how the narrative changed
once Peyton Manning won one.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And it's so difficult to win.
I think people...
The hardest one is the first one.
Listen, we've been spoiled
with Tom Brady going
over and over and over
so many different times consecutively.
They make you think it's easy.
It's not easy.
You ain't guaranteed to go back.
The fact that goddamn Mahomes didn't talk about
three-peating is crazy.
That's the thing.
See, here's the thing. You got
spoiled with Brady, but you got spoiled with
Mahomes recently. Because the man has won the
four Super Bowls since he's been a starter six years in the league.
And he's won three. He's won
two league MVPs and three Super Bowl MVPs.
And you're like, okay, that's it. No, it crazy no hell it's not it's crazy they make it look like it is
but that's why only one other person could say they've ever done something like that and that's
tom brady brady yeah that's crazy i mean you got the steelers the steelers won four super bowl in
six years in the 70s yeah but it's not easy man winning the super. But it's not easy, man. Winning the Super Bowl because it's not like basketball.
It's not like baseball.
It's not a series, Ocho.
It's one game.
Game.
And you got to be on point.
That one game.
Yes.
Got to be on point.
Yes.
Yes.
Look,
I don't think Lamar gets to,
I don't think,
you know,
when it comes to,
I see somebody had like fourth
and somebody had like six or seven.
I'm like, bro.
Whoa, six or seven?
Who the hell had in front of, who the fuck?
Okay, nevermind. Let me stop.
Look,
my thing is, I'm saying, so what are y'all
judging this on? Because the only
guy that got,
the quarterback that's won a Super Bowl,
Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rogers, and Patrick Mahomes.
One of the current quarterback in, say, of the 32 teams of the 64 quarterbacks that started the backup, only three of them got Super Bowls.
Y'all making it seem like the market's flooded.
It's not.
Right.
And the people that they're putting in front of them, I'm like, okay, so what is it?
I don't care if he put the football and fly was catching.
All I know is they got the ball in the end zone.
Y'all talk about, oh, he's aesthetically, he can't this, he can't that.
All I know is the man was one vote short from being a two-time unanimous MVP.
And that is a blessing and a curse.
Because think about it, Ocho.
They're saying you were so good, nobody else deserved to get a vote.
There's only been two unanimous MVPs in league history.
And Lamar Jackson is one of them.
Tom Brady is the other.
And he was one vote short from being a two-time
unanimous MVP. So people are going to
judge him harshly when he
doesn't feel, especially
now, Ocho, if he
has a so-so season,
get to the playoff and make a run
or he gets to the playoff and don't
go far. But when you are
unanimous MVP or you're one vote.
So they're judging him differently anyway,
based on the success he's having in the regular season.
That's why it's a gift and it's a gift and a curse.
If I, if I, if I judged him like I judged every other quarterback.
So what makes Lamar special?
He's in a class of his own, though.
The expectations that I have for a two-time league MVP.
Think about it.
There's only three of them.
Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson.
What other player can say they weren't in the league MVP? And a class of his own.
So the
criticism is warranted based on that.
The expectations.
That's it.
I don't know
what everybody else is saying about him, Mocho.
I don't know. All I do is
evaluate him.
Bro, you got to play better.
He's got to play better. Yeah. He's got to play better
in big moments.
Yeah.
That's it.
Mahomes, think about
what Mahomes did.
Mahomes only had, what,
two, before the game
went to overtime.
But you remember that game
against Philly.
Mahomes threw for less
than 200 yards.
Yards, yeah.
But every throw that he had
to make in the second half.
It counted.
He had to make it count.
He had to make it count. He had to make it count.
And this is why there's so much pressure on the quarterback.
Because when it comes down to it, I'm going to force you to make a throw.
I'm going to put the ball in your hand.
And I'm not going to let you run it.
I'm not going to let you let this running game run it.
I'm going to force you to make a throw.
Yeah.
And when it comes down to it what what did the kansas city
do in overtime we're not letting christian mccaffrey run this ball and brock purdy if you
throw this ball now the tackle i don't know what the hell the guard was doing because he let chris
jones come right right through i don't know what the hell is that but it's like nah chris nah see
matt you're not running i'll put the ball in your quarterback's hand.
I'll make you make a throw.
Yeah.
If you make a throw, you walk to the middle of the field,
you say, I'm going to get a crack at you, Mahomes.
Get a crack at you.
That was bad football by Kyle because you got to know the overtime rule.
You know there's no sudden death.
Death, yeah.
Not in the postseason.
It is in the regular season.
Yeah. But not in the postseason. Now you give Patrick Mahomes a look to know what he
gots to do I got four oh I only need a
field goal I got four downs
but
they got
King Henry back there
take some of the pressure off Lamar
from running the football
hey Yeah. Take some of the pressure off Lamar. Take some of the pressure off Lamar. Yeah. From running the football.
Hey.
You know what this is about,
Joe.
It's going to be interesting season.
It's going to be a very good season.
Again,
I think the AFC,
the AFC is loaded.
The AFC North is loaded,
especially this year.
Good quarterbacks in the division.
Russell, goddamn Pittsburgh.
Obviously, Lamar.
Deshaun.
Can Deshaun bounce back? I want to see Deshaun get back to the star we're used to seeing
that he was three years ago when he was in Houston.
Hell, we know what Joe Burrow can do.
If Joe Burrow stay healthy, if he stays upright,
that off of the line
we spend all that goddamn money
shit
I think we gonna be alright
ESPN just ranked
the quarterbacks
Mahomes was one
Burrow was two
Josh Allen was three
Lamar was four
okay
I mean that's
I like that
but if anything
I would put
I would switch
Josh and Lamar though
I would switch Josh and Lamar though I would I would switch
Josh and Lamar
okay
so he should be he should be three
hey did you see that did you see that
clip of Nick Wright
breaking down Josh Allen
did you see that
I don't need him breaking down I watch him
I watch him in big ball games.
Hey, that shit was good.
And it gave me a different perspective.
I'm like, holy shit.
Yeah.
That was a good four minutes or five, however long it was.
Because, Ocho, you get enamored.
You see the great things.
Right.
And you forget about the bad.
Right, right.
The horrible interceptions.
And that's what's doing this career.
The turnovers
at the most inopportune
times. Bro, you can't
you go get a field goal.
You can't throw an interception in the end zone.
You can't.
You can't fumble.
Listen,
Josh has that gunslinger mentality like Brett Favre now.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, gunslinger mentality.
I mean, it is.
I appreciate it. I got the arm strength to throw off my back foot, my front foot,
falling down, rolling left, rolling right.
I mean, he has the arm strength
to do it. He just throws those interceptions at
the wrong time.
That's it.
But he's such a talent.
Oh, Joe.
Like, what are you doing? The guy's, what, 6'5",
6'6", 240, 250.
Yep.
Can run through a big brick wall. He got
speed. He can make every throw.
But the turnovers, Ocho.
Turnovers will kill you.
Yes, every time.
The thing that Tom Brady was good at.
He was not good.
He was great.
Tom Brady could tell in the first six months of the game
what he was going to need to do.
God dang it, I'm going to have to get into a shootout with somebody.
I got to throw for 350, 400 yards, three to four touchdowns right uh-oh a turnover might doom us can't put the ball in
harm's way right first six minutes of the ball game tom brady could tell you what he needed to do
right and he would play the game accordingly see it's okay to be a game manager at times
because he knew come playoff time you pay
double for turnovers oh yeah that was his great that was his great and he was great at a lot of
things his ability to process and fight boom boom boom boom whatever you're trying to go and he fed
little coach belichick he and coach belichick would go over the rundown and i tried to tell
people coach belichick was better than what rundown and i tried to tell people coach belichick was
better than what you thought because you line up in a formation and coach belichick being a defense
he said this is where you weak i would attack you here yeah so now tom knows okay let me slide let
me rip let me live this let me hey let the back check his way out hey i need to hey i need you
to do this x y and z but you have to the
quarterback's got to understand that you got to understand immediately bro if it's gonna be a 13
10 ball game oh joe you can't be throwing you can't be taking unnecessary risk yeah yeah yeah
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