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Episode Date: September 19, 2024Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson recap everything that went down in Week 2 of the NFL season.  Some of the biggest stories include Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa going down with a co...ncussion, the Carolina Panthers deciding to bench Bryce Young, the New Orleans Saints blowing out the Dallas Cowboys and much more!03:10 - Falcons shock Eagles09:00 - Bryce Young gets benched22:21 - 49ers injuries compound23:46 - Dolphins bolster QB room30:06 - Caleb Williams struggles33:26 - Saints blow out Cowboys42:00 - Ravens fall to 0-248:17 - Robert Kraft mad at Jerry Jones56:15 - Adrian Peterson goes broke(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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They get the ball back, go right back down the field.
Eagles fans.
Now, last week when y'all went on Green Bay, y'all was in Brazil and y'all won.
I said, Ocho, I'm still, I'm not sold on that defense.
I say, I see some things I don't like, Ocho.
I'm not sold.
Oh, hater, you hating again. Oh don't like. Oh, Joe, I'm not so, oh, hey, you hate the game. Oh, me, Ryan. Oh, me, Ryan. No,
y'all see what y'all fail to realize is, Oh, Joe and I have two and a half decades
of playing the game, breaking the games down, watching the game. The difference between
Oh, Joe and I, and most people that do what I do, you watch the game, yay, they scored a touchdown.
Yay.
They got a sack.
My job is to go deeper.
I need to know why they scored.
I need to know how they got that sack.
So when I come up here and I sit before you, I can give you things.
I don't got no dog in the fight.
I don't have no anybody on the Eagle side.
Raheem Morris came by.
He was great.
So I down on the, when we go on the tour, Ocho gave us 15 minutes of his time. Greatly appreciate that.
I know Arthur blank a little bit. Yes, I have his number.
I'm cool with Mr. Blank. I don't bother that man. I don't ask him for tickets,
but he just thought it'd be good. Uh, we used to go to the same gym,
used to train with the same Pilates teacher. So I just throw that out there.
But Ocho, when I watched it, I say, oh Joe, I ain't sold on the Eagles defense.
I told you that last week.
I said, I'm not sold.
Oh Joe.
I say, because that back end, it scares me and they can't consistently generate pressure.
The letter song, the Hassan Reddit go flesh retired.
Brandon Graham is good, but he's getting a little long in the tooth.
I say, oh Joe, they're not consistently generating pressure and you can run on them.
Whoa, whoa, shadow. Stop hating. You starting off the season hating already.
Right.
Hey Eagle Fang, what do I got to say about um now? Y'all want to talk about anything?
Yeah, but see, we gotta once, I'm not sure what they need to do, what adjustments they need to
make with Jordan Davis. I mean, with Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter up there, with those two behemoths of a man, of young men,
there should be constant pressure at every time.
Actually, nobody, based on what they have at the front line,
should really be able to run the goddamn ball.
Nope.
Just thinking about those two right there,
clogging up the middle,
it shouldn't be nobody running the ball, at all.
But for some reason, B. John Robinson is also a special back as well.
He's a special back.
But we think about the game to me, obviously, it was boring.
If you watch the first and the second quarter, it was a snooze fest.
It was a snooze fest.
It did not get exciting until the end of the game, which always happens in low scoring
game for some reason like this.
It gets great at the end.
Now the game was sealed and deal and done. If Saquon could have caught that ball, it
got in that first down. Then you could have run the clock out because you already picked
up the first. Just run the ball. Just run. Oh Joe, you know 40 seconds going to go off
the clock. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. If they ran the ball, they were anticipating
to run. That's why the swing pass was wide open in the flat. That's what, but it's great
if we make it. Guess what? I run the ball and I'm going to run it all the way down.
I'm going to take me a timeout. I'm going to take 40 seconds off the clock. I'm going
to do a time. So that's the minute. Hold on. But you got to think about in that situation
and that scenario. Yes. Based on down the distance.
The time of the game in the fourth quarter, what is the Atlanta Falcons expecting?
They expecting them to hand the ball off to Saquon. That's why I thought the play called the play call was beautiful to me.
And we just need a Saquon. I'm talking about weed.
I'm talking about weed.
He called the ball. Yeah.
Yeah. As the Eagles fan.
It was a great, it was a great play, it was a great play, y'all.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm going to take the play, you're going to run it.
Yeah.
I'm thinking just like you, oh, y'all running this ball.
Ain't no way y'all will let Jalen Hurst throw this ball.
Oh, damn.
Play action, roll out, Saquon White over, he didn't drop it.
Boom, hold on, wait a minute, now we still got time.
The Falcons come out, they get the ball back,
and drive the length of the field.
Hold on, we playing two shell, we playing two out. come out, they get the ball back and drive the length of the field.
Hold on. We plan to, we plan to share. We plan to add.
I don't know what the safety is doing that the corner out the darn their moon, the first corner at the darn end.
Why the safety all the way back there? Like his goddamn part return.
Because he worked, he worked, he worried about that double move to the post.
Even still in that situation, you know, they got to throw the ball short.
Boom. If you into your anten antennas got to go up. Let's say it was Ed Reed back there.
What you think Ed Reed doing?
But here's the thing.
Listen, he gonna bait you and he driving on the corner because he knows what you're running
based on throwing their Mooney's alignment.
I know the quarter route coming.
Let me tell you why you play in cover two.
You can't get no pressure.
You better not go single high safety
and you ain't got but what you touch Kirk Cousins one time.
Think about what he did.
What was Kirk Cousins doing
in the pocket on that last drive?
Patting the goddamn ball.
Patting the ball.
I wonder what my kids,
I wonder if my wife didn't put the kids to bed.
Damn, I wonder what my mom doing. Man, that's a beautiful night in Philly dang he doing all that he's like somebody somebody
somebody got to feel a void huh they let his son reddit go he let he he led him in sacks last year
so somebody got to pick up the slack up the middle jalen carter jordan davis baby y'all
got to come to the party they got to get in shape you got to come I mean they can't they can't, they can't run, they can't run, but two plays Jordan Davis run two plays
and come out.
You think you don't think they in shape?
No hell no.
Why are you running two plays and come out the ball game?
Well, you know, I mean, when it comes to the interior, most of the time, most teams, they,
um, how do you call it?
They, they, they, they rotate, they on a rotation.
They stay fresh.
Ain't nothing, the jokers got no freshers.
Fresh. I need some dogs. Hey, go huntin'.
Bryce Young era, temporarily, has been halted.
Dave Canales decided to bench Bryce Young less than 24 hours after telling everyone he'd start next week.
The Red Rifle, Andy Dalton is being named a team starter quarterback moving forward this season.
Young was reportedly shocked by the benching
and sources told Jordan Schultz, it came out of nowhere.
Nah, actually it didn't.
If you go back and look at your play,
look at the play, it ain't come out of nowhere.
No one anticipated the plug being pulled
after just two games with a new coaching staff, but a
reminder that the Patriots, Panther, excuse me, traded so much to get him. They traded
DJ Moore, a 2023 first round pick, which was Darnale Wright, a 2023 second round pick was
with Tyreek Stephens. I think he's a starter, 2024 first round pick, overall pick, Caleb Williams,
and a 2025 second round pick.
You don't do that.
You don't do that.
You don't do nobody like that.
For one, I'm gonna start with David Temple
because what David Temple is doing is insubordination.
I don't even know what that shit mean,
but it sounds like it fits for this goddamn scenario
Well, he can't insubordinate because he's the higher
Problem because now you point the fingers at Bryce Young like Bryce Young is the issue. That's not the issue
Yeah, that's not the issue
Look, look at the board of talent backs before Bryce Young got there. I thought that was the problem.
Who was the quarterback before Bryce Young?
Man, they had Sam Darnold.
They had Baker Mayfield.
Keep going.
I don't know who I don't really know who came directly after
Cam. That's the hope.
That's what I'm trying to say.
It's been a revolving door of quarterbacks
not having success because they don't have
what they need around them to be successful.
There was a reason you was able to get Bryce Young
because he was the number one pick for a reason.
You were able to have the number one pick for a reason.
So now you expect Bryce Young to come in,
had a different coaching staff last year.
You hired Dave Kanellis, right? You bring him in, you let him play two games. He has nothing surrounding him
to help him. But now you're going to bench him and you're going to start Andy Dalton.
Like that's going to answer the problem. Like Andy Dalton go take you somewhere. Like that's going
to answer the problem. No, fix the shit around him. And then you put him in an environment
and I guarantee you, you'll find success.
Oh, Bryce Young is an issue.
Then people talk about, oh, he too short.
Oh, he can't see.
Hello, how tall is Kyla fucking Murray?
How tall is Baker Mayfield?
I have it.
Well, we know he taller than Kyamari. Oh, he absolutely is. It's not Bryce
Young. Now, what I will say, if you turn the tape on, there will be some discrepancies in his play.
Oh, his confidence is shot, man. Yeah, hell yeah. Listen, and this is no disrespect to any of the
receivers that are on the Panthers
No, I'm listen no disrespect. You know, I love you know how I feel about you And if I don't know you personally, but he has
You know what? I don't say that cuz I want to be disrespectful
I think the thing is the question is if Andy Dalton is the is the answer. I need to know the question
if Andy Dalton is the answer, I need to know the question.
Hold on, the red light faded. I'm just gonna keep it, hey, y'all know what we do.
I keep it one spot.
So if he the answer, what's the question?
Well, listen, I think having a veteran presence,
I'm not sure what the Panthers are gonna do going forward.
Maybe allowing Bryce Young to sit for a year,
watching the media outlets and some of the pundits,
some of the analysts are saying,
Bryce Young time in Carolina is mine. But they want everybody to play because everybody think
they're gonna get CJ Stroud. The problem is Ocho is that people forget. Do you realize Patrick
Mahomes sat his entire rookie year except one game? But that's not what they do with rookies
now. They don't even give the rookies time to develop and learn from the sideline.
rookies this year now, they don't even give the rookies time to develop and learn from the sideline. If you get drafted number one, they throwing you to the
wolves, they throwing you to the fire. Yeah, you got to get out there before. Carson didn't start,
Carson didn't start the whole year. So times have changed now. For one, the money
that's being invested in these players, you know, we paying you so much, we need
you to go out there right now and earn that paycheck. You need to earn what you're making. Now it's okay if you go to
a team that is competent with weapons around you that you can use at your disposal that
makes your job easier. What Bryce Young has to do is he has to put on his fucking cape
and be Superman, which he cannot do because it has nothing to use around him. And I mean, I mean, I mean, as respectful as possible.
You traded DJ Moore, somebody that could have gave him a quality receiver.
You traded him.
And I like Adam Phelan, but Adam Phelan, I mean, he's not what he wants.
He's not that poor receiver.
Either either either decent number two.
Look at the receiver in general.
And I mean this in no, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
We talk about number two, we talk about twos and threes.
Like who can Bryce Young, stay with me Nat.
Who can Bryce Young write in the time of need,
life or death situation, he can come to the ball,
get up on the center and look at a receiver
and say, you know what?
Right now on this plate, I need you.
I need you to win for me.
Yellow, high water, I know you got me no matter what.
Who can he do that to?
Who can he do that with?
D.J. Schwell got somebody to do it with.
Patrick Mahone got somebody to do it with.
Joe Burrow got somebody to do it with. Like Mahone got somebody to do it with, Joe Burrow
got somebody to do it with.
Like you can go down a list of teams that always have one dog.
You just mentioned.
You got to have one dog.
And the more you have the better you are.
I know I can count on.
No matter what he got me.
It's nothing.
And then you get, he's having a string of bad plays back to back.
And all that does to a player's confidence,
you already know what it does.
He, in the press conference,
Sunday, they asked him, have you lost your confidence?
He said, my confidence is in the Lord.
And when he said that,
when he says something like that,
it shot, it shot. And when he said that, when he says something like that,
it shot, it shot.
I'm Christian, I believe in the man upstairs too. In that environment, that killer mindset.
The Carolina Panthers fans,
they tried to hear that at that moment.
Oh no, listen, the killer mindset you have to have
at the quarterback position, your confidence is number one. You can't shake quarterback position. Your confidence is number one.
You can't shake my confidence.
Your confidence is number one.
That's number one.
Once that's gone, you just to shell yourself out there.
You will shell yourself.
Because I wish more guys realized, Ocho, for me,
how you gonna break my confidence
coming from where I came from?
Do you know what it took just for me to get here
now that I'm here?
You think, oh, you think, okay, I drop a couple passes.
Y'all boo.
Y'all think that's gonna break me?
I should have been broke a long time ago
because there, along the way,
I'm sure it's been 75,000 people that doubted me
at some point in time.
And I might not know them,
just like you don't know half them,
75,000 or the 77,000 or however many people that come to Carolina
game you don't know them you can't break my confidence you can't
shake you can't break my confidence because I know first of all you drafted
me because clearly you like what you saw on tape I played on a big-time program
I won big-time games against big-time competitions but don't don but don't let a couple of bad plays,
don't let somebody pull it.
Now look, it's easy for me to say,
cause I've never been benched Ocho.
So that's a lot easier for me to say,
I try to make sure I do everything I possibly could.
It's different for a tight end receiver
than it is a quarterback.
They have a lot more on their plate
than what we have on our plate. But
nah, you're not going to break my confidence. You're not going to shake me just because I
have a couple of bad games. Hey, I'm going to do me. I'm going to go out there and do me. And it's
a lot like I said, Ocho, I'm responsible for my plate. He's responsible for everyone. When things
go good, he's going to get the credit. When they go bad, he's going to get all the blame.
That's what happened. As a rookie, look at the circumstance he's coming into. As a rookie last year,
there's a reason he was the number one pick. Because the team-
It damn sure in Alabama. It damn sure in Alabama.
Yeah, you come- He-
Because when you follow Tua, you follow Mac Jones, and you got those receivers that you got. You
got Jameson Williams, and you got Metchy, and you got those receivers that you got. You got Jameson Williams and you got Metchi and you got those tighties.
You got those running backs.
You got Jameer Gill.
Listen, you come up from a winning environment surrounded by adequate weapons that makes
your job easy.
I'm not saying the court is easy, but when you have certain players around you and you
have certain weapons at your disposal you're
able to facilitate the ball in an efficient way and that's something that
he can do he has to put on the cape and be something that he's not he can't be
Superman name one quarterback right now chat let's chat listen to me name one
quarterback right now that you can put on the Panthers. And it would turn the whole franchise around.
Who?
Who? You ain't got but you look, first of all, you ain't got but
a handful of guys, you probably got like three or four guys on
show that could go there. And Ella, it raises the level of
play. That's hard for a rookie. Because you got to look at when
Peyton Manny got the end of,
you know Peyton Manning had?
Yeah.
He had Marvin Harrison.
He had, he had Marshall Hall.
Two guys, first battle of all time.
Marshall Hall fought with an MVP
and a two time offensive player of the year.
And we know what Marvin Harrison is.
That's what he have.
And they say, you know what we're gonna do?
That ain't enough.
We're gonna go get you Reggie Wayne. You know what? That ain't enough. We gonna go get you Reggie Wayne.
You know what?
That ain't enough.
We gonna go get you- Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, don't get me started. If you look at what Patrick Mahomes inherited, he had Tyreek and he had
Kelsey and they went out and got Sammy Watkins. Listen, think about everything you just said.
Draft in the right way. Putting pieces around the quarterbacks so they can have instant success.
be putting pieces around the quarterbacks so they can have instant success. What is brother temper doing over there and they want to blame it on the quarterback if they want to blame it.
Brady was the only one uh coach Tom probably said coach Belichick don't you draft anybody else
because you ain't drafted but one player that's been so good and that's grump everybody else
we got free agency we got i mean I mean, what was Amandola?
We, you got him in free agency.
I think Edelman was an undrafted free agent
or a low round draft pick.
You know, Welker, you signed him, but he was undrafted.
You look at the guy that he signed,
boy, they would have been good and terrible.
You remember he got Tyquan Thornton, the guy from Baylor?
They ran like 4-2-6, 4-2-7, yeah.
Man, couldn't play dead in the Western.
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And it looks like you got Achilles tendonitis and calf issues and not Debo's down. The question I have for you, are they in trouble?
Nah, they're gonna be alright.
You know, you got Ricky, Ricky, Ricky finna come back.
You have Juwan Jennings who is also capable of making big plays, obviously more so in a blocking game,
but he's an adequate receiver that can get open
when need be.
You say, did you say Ayute was hurt?
No, Ayute's not hurt.
But he had been involved that I thought he should not.
Remember last year when Debo went out,
he stepped up, played unbelievable.
Purdy was looking for him.
So he's gonna have to go back to that.
He's gonna have to go back to,
cause no Debo, no Christopher Caffrey,
they're still gonna be able to run the football.
But in the passing game, you're gonna have to lean,
you're gonna have to rely a little bit more on IU.
You're gonna have to rely a little bit more on Kittle.
Like you said, Jennings played really,
he played really well.
He's made some big time catch.
He can make some big time catch. Remember the rookie, the rookie, the rookie's coming in. The rookie from Florida, I think he played really well. He's made some big time catch. He can make some big time catch.
Remember the rookie, the rookie, the rookies coming in,
the rookie from Florida, I think he'll be back.
Yeah, yeah, Ricky, he'll be back this week.
So I think, I think they'll be fine.
I think they'll be fine.
Listen, goddamn Shanahan is so goddamn creative offensively
knowing how to manipulate the offense
and the formations to be able to get the players open with
understanding of their strengths and their weaknesses and what they're good at
and what they're not. I think they're going to be fine.
The Dolphins side signed Tyler Huntley off the Ravens practice squad to is seeing
a neurologist and retirement is not in consideration after suffering.
It's a documented concussion.
Instead, he's in concussion protocol, working to get cleared for a return.
Mike McDaniel said there hasn't been any decision
placed on whether Chua would be placed on injury reserve.
He's doing well today.
And we take it day by day.
He's smiling with his teammates.
He's working with trainers
and the medical staff diligently.
I like the choice.
I like the choice.
I think for those in the chat that have watched Tyler
Huntley play, understand what they're getting. At some point, maybe a week, maybe two, depending on
how long he takes to learn the playbook, there's so much that the Dolphins could be able to do with
him. He's a dual threat quarterback. He's a good thrower of the ball. Yep. He's someone that can get the ball to Waddle,
the Tyreek, he can throw a good deep ball,
but also escaping, his escapability is up the par.
I'm not calling him Lamar Jackson,
but if you saw when he hit the Ravens and he had to-
He played well.
He played well.
Yeah, he came in and-
Played really well.
So I think that's a good fit for the Dolphins. And he needs to be behind center as soon as possible. Because if you look at the numbers, no disrespect to Skylar Thompson, if you look at the numbers and the efficiency, when Skylar Thompson plays even with Waddle and God damn Tyreek, I mean,ree Keough at the helm, it ain't that good.
It ain't that good. So you want to be in contention as long as possible and Tua is able to come back and return, which I think would probably be week six. I think the five week is five, maybe the
five week is six. So I think Tua comes back week seven. I think the thing is Ocho is that I think
Tua had a concussion that wasn't diagnosed. Remember he got that concussion and they say,
oh, it was his shoulder.
He was stumbling and his offensive lineman.
And then he come right back out there
that Thursday night against Cincinnati.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And get slammed and we saw.
Back to the head, yeah.
And if I'm not mistaken, I think he had one at Alabama.
It's tough to leave something not on your terms.
Right.
Especially just early.
This early?
After I just got paid?
After I just got paid and I have to continue to prove myself
that I'm worthy of the contract that I received.
Especially after dealing with the bullshit
when Brian Flores was here.
I have to prove myself. Not just myself myself but also to the doubters who said I wasn't worthy of being the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins. I'm not worthy of the contract that I just received.
I have to prove my there's no way in hell. That's why I said as soon as they happen and we talked about it ain't no way in hell are retiring. Ain't no way in hell. It's just, you know, as a competitor.
As someone that's involved in the game of football.
Like you just said, all it took you to do,
all you went through, the obstacles,
the ups, the downs, to even get to this point in life,
you think I'm gonna just hang it up behind some concussions
despite the health risks, Yeah. Long-term.
Doctors don't like to be a definitive
because they don't know.
They're like, okay, we think this,
you know, I was listening to Ted.
I went back and Teddy Bruski,
he said when he had his stroke,
he said the doctor says, okay, you could be okay,
but there's always a possibility.
We think there's very minimal risk,
but this is still a procedure, this is still surgery.
The body is going to be opened up.
In this situation, when my brother went to get his eval
for his neck, the doctor looked at him and told him,
he said, Mr. Sharp, you get to make your own decision. But if
you were my son, I would advise you never to play football
again. Take one hit. That was it. My brother's like, hey, 29
years of age, just come off a 94 catch 94 catch 18 touchdown season 29 it was over. Hey Michael
Irvin same thing huh Michael Irvin had a yeah he had a
stenosis which is narrowing of the of the spine
so he got hit boom done see I think the thing is is that you
know we never think anything that's bad got hit, boom, done. See, I think the thing is is that, you know,
we never think anything that's bad, traumatic
is gonna happen to us.
That happened to other people.
I ain't gonna get no car wreck, old Joe.
I ain't gonna get no Achilles, no AC.
That's not gonna happen to me.
That happened to other people.
And so it's hard to like, man, look, God got me
and he does.
Yeah.
But at the end of the day,
the thing is that I'm looking at,
we know more now, Ocho.
They know more now, doctors know more,
the players know more now than they did in the 60s,
70s, 80s, 90s, even the 2000s.
And you know what, Ocho, 10, 15 years from now,
they'll know even more.
It's amazing how far medicine and science has come
just in the last 10 years.
I mean, when they used to do hip surgery,
they used to cut the glute, they used to cut the muscle.
Now all they do is just move it to the side.
They come in through the front,
they don't go in through the back no more.
That's how far the advancement,
the types of material that they use last longer, sturdier.
Hey, and speaking of, I just want to throw this little tad bit out there real quick,
since I heard you say medicine and science and you know, can I honestly say I think there's
a cure for everything?
Can I say that? Is it okay for me to say that no money in the cure?
The money is in the treatment and the research. Okay. I just want to make sure we own the same page
So I'm a clear. I'm a guy who want to hear what I hear you. I want you I want you to be reoccurring
I want you to keep coming back. I don't want to clear no high blood pressure. I don't want to care. No, no
I don't care to clear no high blood pressure. I don't want to care no, no, I don't care that.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
I just want to make sure we're on the same page, man,
so I can close my book.
And he's going to learn, Ocho.
Some of the throws, a lot of the throws
that he got away with in college,
you can't get away with them in the NFL.
They'll make you pay for them.
And another thing, when you're heading to the sideline,
you know how like college guys will pull up and
let you run on out of bounds? Yeah, they're not gonna do that
in the NFL, because they want an accumulation of licks. They
want that to add up. So the first quarter you might pop
right up like that and hurt your second quarter. Yeah, we feeling
good. But they keep putting enough of them on you on the
third and the fourth quarter. And over the course of the
season, they're gonna add up. Caleb you gotta run like when you make a detour like you going out of bounds Ocho
run for a fight and get on up out of bounds because they're not playing they're gonna if they get that
they get that close to you Ocho because you don't have the protection of the pocket
you're gonna run or you're running back they're gonna lay wood on you. Ocho what'd you take from
this ball game? Listen I enjoyed the ball game. Listen Caleb Williams what he has to do he has to learn and
protect the ball. Learn and protect the ball. Learn to live to see another play. Some of those
deep throws. Listen I like what he's able to do as far as his escapability. You know being able to
extend plays trying to make plays down the field to try to get his team into the game but you can't
you can't do it. You can't do it. Obviously, like college, sometimes some of those receivers
were wide open. We were able to dodge the D tackles and the guards that might have gotten
through. But these players are covered. Sometimes you throw in a double coverage.
Sometimes you throw in Wade. He had one throw, he threw Wade across his body from the
right hash. All the way back across the field and he got picked. It's not going to work. Sometimes,
listen, just throw the ball away and live to see another down. I mean, other than that, listen,
they pressured him. They pressured him a lot. They fooled him with some of the coverages.
They pressured him a lot, you know. They fooled him with some of the coverages.
And other than that, I mean, it was a good game.
It was good.
I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end,
the Bears actually had a chance to come back and win.
They got real interesting.
They got very interesting.
It's funny how that always works.
You know that?
You ever noticed that?
I do, because the thing is,
it seemed like the Texans was going in to put the game away.
Cam Baker's fumbling the ball.
They're about to go in and go and touchdown Ocho.
They're about to go up two scores.
They're about to put the game.
Game away.
And that's what you have to guard against.
Because if you think about it Ocho,
more teams lose games than teams win games.
Yes sir.
There's a lot more losing than winning.
Now we know at the end of the day,
they're gonna have to have somebody's gonna have to win
unless the game ends of the tie.
But you go back and look, you look at it like, okay,
this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game.
And, you know, like you said, Caleb Wave,
I think he has a great, his escape ability is unbelievable.
He can make every throw.
He just has to understand this isn't college.
Everybody at this level is elite.
Even if there's tears to it,
but you're talking about the best of the best.
You only got 1600 men in the world of 8 billion people
that do what you do.
Yeah.
1600 of 8 billion.
That's a very, very minute percent of men that can play this game at the highest level. Oh, Joe.
Yeah. Woo. We. Wow. The Saints. Hey. Score touchdowns on six
straight possession. Boy. And to be and on their way to a 4419
blowout over the Cowboys. The Saints offense has scored 91
points in two games.
Through three quarters, the Saints average nine points, a little less than 10 yards per play.
35 points allowed are the most, as tied for the most given up through the first two quarters.
They tied us because we put 35 on the ass in 98 and a half. Last year, the Cowboys allowed 35 points in just one game.
Carl was hardly touched, neither was Alvin,
who scored four touchdowns.
I tried to prepare you for this, Ocho.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I told you, I said, Ocho, I'm gonna let you go,
but I wanna say this.
We talk about the Cowboys, we'll start with the defense.
I said, look, I wasn't really that impressed
with the Cowboys' offense last week. I said, they got a punt return and they got, you know, a couple
of turnover that put them on short fields.
I say the defense looked really good, but I say, I would really
like to see them if they had to starting tackles in them.
I said, because what happens if you, if you can hold up.
I guess we got our answer.
Yeah.
I did not hear Michael Parsons name call. I did not hear Michael Parson's name called. I did not hear
D Lawden's name called. When you go in and it, Ocho, do you know how hard it is? I want
you to explain to the fans, because I'm going to let you take it over and I'm going to follow
up after you. Can you explain to the fans how difficult it is, our listeners, our viewing
and our listeners that's going to listen to this on audio. Can you explain to them how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six straight positions
in an NFL game? Wait, hold on. Forget the NFL game. Do you know how difficult it is to score
six touchdowns on six positions in Madden in a video game? If you're playing someone that's good,
it's very difficult. So the fact that this is Derek Carr. This is the same Derek Carr that
the Raiders let go. Right. That's the same Derek Carr. Right. Look completely different today.
Rashid Shahid. Is that how you say his name? Rashid Shahid, Chris Olave and that goddamn
Alvin Camaro. They look like a different Saints team to date. I don't know
and I don't want to butcher anybody's name. Whoever the right tackle and the left tackle are
for the New Orleans Saints that deserve the pay raise. There wasn't no no no stunt,
no nothing. They barely got the goddamn Derek Carr and was able to pressure him.
They barely got the goddamn Derek Carr and was able to pressure him. Tayson Hill, Swiss Army knife, he coming out the backfield, he at quarterback doing
quarterback sneaks. I mean everything worked today. Everything worked. If I'm
not mistaken the Saints didn't punt. I could be wrong. Nine minutes into the
third or fourth quarter. Nine minutes in the third quarter. Nine minutes, was it third or fourth quarter? Fourth. Nine minutes into the fourth quarter.
That's, I mean, it's, I'm sure it's happened before,
but come on, man.
I don't know, I didn't expect it to happen to the Cowboys.
Again, one thing that the Cowboys always do,
they have a game like this.
Maybe not them allowing a team to score 35
But they've gone 12 and 5 the last what three years in a row
Yes, so this is this is one game down. I
I'm assuming knowing them and the way they bounce back after loss
They will look completely different next week and everybody will be back happy
They couldn't stop look Derek, Derek Carr was 11 of 16, 243, two touchdowns, a pick, a sack.
He had a 99 cubic, 99 QBR.
Alvin Kamara has some of the best balance I've ever seen.
Oh yeah, hey.
I mean, you think you got it.
You better wrap all the way up.
He is phenomenal.
Yeah.
Playing through contact.
20 rushes, 115, three touchdowns.
They had 39 carriers, a buck 90.
I just don't know.
I don't know what that was today
because the Saints did whatever they want.
They got whatever they wanted and as much of it as they wanted. They got whatever they wanted
and as much of it as they wanted.
That's embarrassing.
That's embarrassing.
Do y'all, I mean, that's the Cowboys defense should be,
look, that didn't play well.
And this is not all on that.
And people are like, well, Chester,
you think that's all that fault?
No, but you're allowed to match what the opposing office,
when, guess what?
When the Saints throw it, they're like, when they kick it off, that could allow to go score now. And you know what when the same store they're like when
they kick it off DACA's allowed to go score now you know that's the type of game i thought it was
going to be at the beginning that's the type of game i thought it was going to be i thought you
know what i say man boy this this is looking to be it's going to be a shootout the same score
the cowboy score okay the same score okay the score. I was expecting, you know, both teams to put up 40, 42, 35.
That's what I thought it was going to look like.
Turnover, interception, and then they were capitalizing on those
turnovers. Oh, they put their kick no field goal.
They're scoring touchdowns. Now, if my Bengals could have done that
today. Yeah. they ain't kick no field goal, they score touchdowns. Now, if my bangles could have done that today,
yeah, shit.
But the Cowboys need another receiver.
Oh, they got a CD.
And you see when they started doubling CD,
you see how difficult life got with that.
Yeah, but you know what I like,
you know what I like about what the Cowboys do with CD-LAM?
They move them all around.
In three by one, they'll give them at the three,
in three by one, they'll put him at the two.
Sometimes he'll be on the outside.
Sometimes he'll be on the opposite side as the X.
So I like even though they try to double him,
they move him around so much, it makes it difficult.
If you think about it, Ocho,
after he got that long touchdown run,
he only caught one more pass.
Yeah, I hate when that happens. I hate when it happens.
Because you think you about to have a bomb, baby. Hey, I already got me a long tub. I done got me
about 90. I done got me a 90. It's the first quarter. I'm like, yeah, I'm adding it up in my
head. Okay, that's a buck 50. That's at least one 50, one 80, two tubs at the least. And the fact
that you just said that, I don't know if we get into the Kyle and Murray game today.
Remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Jr. yesterday?
Last night show, I said, he is going to go off.
It's just the way the NFL works.
I don't know how to explain it.
But he went crazy in the first quarter.
And I sent out a tweet.
I sent out a tweet and said, I guarantee you,
even though he's on fire like an NBA jam character,
they gonna stop going to him.
And lo and behold, I think the stat line
might've been the same at the end of the damn game.
It was, he only had, I think he had got another target
when that was it.
They do it every time.
I will never be able to understand why it works like that.
Oh, just, they just run the offense.
And I guess if a defense says, you know what,
the rest of the game, we taking Marvin Harrison,
Jr. out of the game, the offense,
a coordinator allows the team to do just that.
I hate when they allow a team to dictate
where you go with the ball.
I hate it.
Force your goddamn will sometime.
They got a, uh, this is embarrassing though, Ocho. You can't,
you can't get beat like this.
Hold on. It's only week two. Is it really embarrassing to lose?
Yeah. Like this?
Yeah.
As opposed to 10 games in, 11 games in, 12 games in.
Ocho to get, Ocho, you allowed a team
to go six for six touchdowns.
You said it's hard to do on man.
Yeah, it's hard to do in a video game.
Well, they just did it in the game.
Especially you playing a quality opponent, it's harder.
That's what you told me the Cowboys were.
I said that?
Yeah.
Nah, I said Cowboys were.
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This is what they talk about.
Not only is the game inches, there are one, two, maybe three plays
out of what the 65 or maybe 70 you run one to maybe three plays
that make the difference in the game.
Yeah, I guarantee if we were to if we were to have the time to break down this film and
somewhat of a PowerPoint presentation style to the chat, we can show you the one or two
or three plays that made the difference in this game or why they were able to come back
and win.
Game.
I mean, they ran the they ran the ball well.
Derek Henry, 18 for 84 Lamar five for 45, uh,
he'll four for 42.
So 24, 27 rushes, one 51.
Um, they fly was seven for 91.
Mark Andrews four for 51.
Bateman had three for 40 likely two for 26.
Uh, Lamar was 21 of 34, two 47, one touchdown, one IIT.
Mr.
Couple of throws he'd like to have back, two sacks, 15 yards. Yeah.
But with Lamar Jackson, MVP as my quarterback
and Dan here is my running back.
I should be able to hold the 10 point lead
with 12 minutes to go in the fourth.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But first of all, I've got to be.
I've got to be able to hold that.
I've got to.
You know, it also comes down to the play calling as well.
No, we're not going to do that.
Oh, no.
OK.
OK.
OK.
We're not going to see.
There you go.
See what you did.
So let me ask you a question.
When they win the game, you don't say nothing about play calling.
You say that's what players do.
They make plays.
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
I understand what you're saying.
I'm just saying, you know, when it comes.
OK, what would you like?
OK, let me tell you.
I'm going to take your argument.
What would you have liked to see them do more or less more or less of in the, in
that instance, what would you like to see them do more of? And then what would
you have liked to see them do less of?
I think, I think they should have run the ball a little bit more, run the ball a
little bit more.
It is rare that you see them. Normally they have more paths, especially because they got to lead
have more passing attempts than rushing attempts.
Bingo.
You brought John Harbar said you brought Derek Henry in for a reason.
But he said, he said they did not bring Derek Henry there to give him 30
touches. That's a goddamn lie.
And the reason you didn't bring real, what is what he's saying?
Okay.
He said that and you lost a day up 10 and up 10 with 12 minutes to go on the fourth.
And the fact that's when you're supposed to use your Derek Henry to his advantage and
you don't do it.
Yeah.
Try to do something that's really not the way your office is built.
You not going to throw the ball goddamn 50 times a game. And you don't do it. You try to do something that's really not the way your offense is built.
You're not built to throw the ball god damn 50 times a game.
That's not the type of offense Baltimore is.
No.
I'm surprised they got that many throws.
Can Lamar throw the ball?
You got that right.
Yes.
But just the drop back, first down, second down, third down, no.
That's not the Ravens.
I'm surprised, Ocho considering when you go back and look at it now.
Hold on.
Look for something right quick. Oh, what is.
Considering the time of possession wasn't that they ended up losing the T.R. T.O.P. by by over a minute.
But when you look at it, that you had a 10 point that you had a 10 point lead
in the form and to have more past attempts to rush attempts,
that's not normally the Raven's recipe for success.
It's normally the other way around.
Yeah.
More rush, you can see them having 35, 40 rush attempts.
And then they'll have 20 to 25 pass attempts.
But they threw the ball a lot today, which is surprising.
Maybe they saw something, you know,
maybe they saw like, hey, their corners are the safety.
We feel that we could hold up again.
Max probably gonna wreck some stuff.
Every time, every time.
And I mean, I don't rate the-
The rate of steel plate, man to man, man to man,
safety in the middle of the field,
couple three, couple four.
We, this is what we running.
We not changing.
We not bluffing.
We not doing nothing exotic defensively.
Line up and play.
That's the only, that's the only reason I can think of them just throwing the
ball so much and going away from the run.
Cause there's a safety down in the box.
I mean, I like Lamar only had five rushes.
I'm OK with that.
But those those are because last week, I think he had like 10, 11, 12 rushes
last week, maybe had like 14, 15. Yeah.
Give Derek Henry another six or seven carries.
So you didn't bring him there for you didn't bring him there for 30.
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into the multi-billion dollar empire.
At the time Jones induction, Kraft reportedly told a friend he hasn't been to an NFC title game in
two decades and he gets in. How does that work? Oh, they beefing. The big in there is beefing. I like
that. I like that. But listen, I understand what Mr. Kraff is coming from.
It has been it has been two decades, has it?
The most recent 28 years, seven, seven is the seventh time, seven times.
So what happened to the Patriots?
Mr. Kraff, six. Yeah, six.
Six. Yeah. Tom has seven, but he got another one with Tampa.
So it's six. That's right.
Tommy Ghosn. I mean, listen, if anyone should be enshrined in that Hall of Fame
for what they've done to turn that program, excuse me, that franchise around,
it should be Mr.
Graff because Jerry is still living on what was done in the past.
Long, long time ago.
Long, long, long, long, long, long time ago.
And right. Right.
So it is the Cowboys.
The star starting the helmet
does sell itself as opposed to, you know,
the red, white and blue down there,
down there in Foxborough, but it happens.
I mean, you know, the thing is, oh Joe,
and people like, well, I don't know what, yeah, it happens.
I mean, I know guys that, that when some guys get in
and they don't, they're like, bro,
I went to this many pro bowls,
I'm this many first team all pro, I did this X, Y, and Z.
How such a such?
Like, bro, hell, I ain't vote.
I get it, I'm gonna hear your point,
I'm gonna let you vent.
And this is what I always tell, this is what I tell people.
When they want you to get in,
ain't nothing you've done can keep you out.
When they don't, they'll change the rules
to keep your ass out.
Yeah.
And I'm believing in that.
Most definitely.
Because I still want my brother to get in
so I ain't gonna say too much.
But I just be, but y'all know, y'all know,
y'all know Tio should have been the first ballot.
Man got the, what, the third, he got the third,
the third most touchdown catches,
probably like the third most yards.
He's, three men have ever been first team, all pro on three different teams, three, two on with first ballot hall of favors, Ted Hendricks,
the stork prime time and Tara Lewis, three men in the history of the NFL in
the history, the NFL in the history.
The NFL been playing football since 1920.
The real deal.
And you all say no.
No, that's the game they man, politics, baby politics.
I think that look and look,
everything everybody says they're going to use, you know, the situation, I think I, look, and look, everything, everybody says they're going to use, um, you know, the situation, I think the, yeah, I hate him bringing it up, but people like,
okay, what transpired at the, you know, the video evidence.
So that he went in there X, Y, Z.
And then they say, well, hold on, you was the owner of one of the biggest chat scandals
in NFL history.
Um, people's like, well, if you don't, if you didn't know, you should have known.
I don't believe he knew.
Good.
Bellacheck.
Ain't sharing that information.
Ain't nobody knew the coach.
Bellacheck and them damn coaches.
Cause that's why I guess what happened when one of them left and went to the
team that I played for, he brought that same bull job there
And mr. B got if you know what up out of there They took that over to London and they called it and mr. B said oh no oh no
Ain't no second chance. Hey, we sorry apologize. No, you got to go
Got to go. So that's who knew about it. And
You know, if you remember he tried to do it to the jazz it Eric Mangini he said he say
hey you know that thing you do I won't keep my mouth shut just don't do it to me. Ocho me and you
me and you used to rob banks I said but Ocho you know what Ocho I'm going straight as a matter of
fact Ocho I'm gonna invest my money I got me a bank now I know you As a matter of fact, Ocho, I'm in best my money. I got me a bank.
Now I know you rob.
I know you rob banks, Ocho, but just don't hit your boy.
Guess what you say?
I'm gonna hit your, hey, I'm gonna hit your stuff
on Friday at noon.
Oh no, okay, you are.
Hey, guess what?
We'll have a bank robbery at noon on Friday.
He gonna be driving a such a such.
He gonna be wearing this.
What you want me to do?
I was gonna keep my mouth, you mean to tell me
you that cavalier that I said, I won't,
I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.
You continue to do what you do.
Just don't do it to me.
Right.
Man.
What?
Hey, oh, Joe, that man say,
later for you, I would do it to you.
Okay.
Because think about it.
If Coach Mangini don't tell, they're not stopping.
Name the person that stopped something.
Just say, you know what?
I've had a John Q moment.
I've had a change of heart.
I don't want to do this no more.
I know it's wrong.
So I'm just stopping out of the kindness
because that's the type of person that I am.
It don't stop.
You feel more and more emboldened to do it
because.
Right.
Oh no.
So yeah, it's tough.
Cause I like, I like Mr. Kraff.
I don't know how much time you spent around him
when you was there, but he-
Yeah, he cool, cool, real cool, real cool.
He's always, he goes out of his way anytime he sees me.
And you know, I'm talking, he always touch me,
hey, I love what you're doing.
I can tell you study.
I can tell you do your homework.
You're great.
I really appreciate it.
I know your parents, your grandma, really proud of you. He can tell you do your homework. You're great. I really appreciate it. I know your parents. Your grandma really proud of you.
He's always given me my flowers even.
And he's like, hey, he said, I understand you got a job to do.
And he's like, you do a damn good job, too.
So he he he give you he give you his credit.
So I've always, you know, for the most part, all the owners,
what I do when I've been, you know,
at the Super Bowl and go to their functions, they, you know, hey, they know I got a job to do.
I don't I don't really know you well enough personally to attack you personally.
I'm talking about your team. And it just so happens you own that team.
So, you know what? You're kind of like collateral damage.
You know, hey, because that's how you know, with your family.
Hey, you're talking about my brother.
You're talking about me. That's my brother.
What the hell you think I'm supposed to do?
Like be happy with you?
Even if you tell him the truth, I still ain't gonna like it.
So yeah, I get it.
But I mean, come on, put me back.
I mean, what else can he do?
He's on the committee.
He's on the TV committee.
The man won six Superbowls.
They went to, I get it.
But even after the, even after,
let's just say for the sake of argument,
you say, you know what?
You got the, you won those three,
you won the first three doing that.
Hell, they won three more since.
Well, what did that tell you? And they went to, and they went to what? They went to five, they won three more. Well, would that would that tell you any way to and they went to what they went to
five, they won three.
Damn. No, hell no.
Let me take that back. They went to know they won three.
They lost three because they lost to the Giants twice and they lost to Billy.
But they won three.
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Foles play.
Yeah. Yeah. So Nick Foles play, yeah.
Yeah.
So I do think Mr. Kraft is very, very deserving of being placed into the Football Hall of
Fame.
Adrian Peterson, who earned more than $100 million during his 15-year NFL career, he
now faces a debt in excess of 12 million
and he's been ordered to turn over his assets to pay for it.
According to the USA Today,
a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property
to satisfy the debt.
Constables have been ordered to seize assets from his home.
A court appointed receiver has accused Peterson
of playing a shell game in order to avoid payment.
Oh Joe, oh Joe, man, AP.
Bro, you made a hundred million.
And then he barred, I think he borrowed like 5 million
in like two years to interest.
So when you borrow money like that,
you gotta play like 20, 25% interest, oh Joe.
So it went from 5 million to like 8 million in three years.
It might be 50% interest.
Oh Joe, but then you throw a birthday party
and you fly everybody. I wish I might throw a birthday party and you fly everybody I
Wish I might have a birthday party
And I fly y'all in to come to my party
Where they do that at?
He got camels he got tigers
Don't thought he was talking for real
Man is this and I you know how I am.
The chat know, hell, the goddamn world know
how I am when it comes to finances.
And I don't play that.
I don't play that.
Listen, him being in this situation is very unfortunate.
I wish him well and hoping everything turns out in his favor.
I'm not sure how this works.
He ain't looking for the turn of his favor. I'm not sure how this works. He ain't gonna turn out in his favor, he owe 12 million.
I mean.
And in front of looks of it, he ain't got it.
Yeah, I hope so.
I hope he does.
I hope he has him.
I hope he has him.
How you take out a loan
to throw yourself a birthday party.
You better get, hey, you better go down there get uh about five or six dozen crabs
and some shrimp is ahead you go. Who takes out a loan to throw themselves a birthday party
unless you're what trying to impress the party goers?
I don't know that's crazy man.
100. I don't know. That's crazy, man. 100?
Damn, man.
Ocho, how you...
Ocho, you throw a birthday party and you bring a...
What he fly in?
300 guests?
He flew in 300 guests.
What?
I don't know 300 people.
If I'm 56, I don't know 300 people.
If I'm 56, I don't know 300 people.
And I damn sure don't know enough of people
to fly their ass to a mile vent.
Right.
Man, you think I know 300 buckets, 300 burns?
Hell no.
That's messed that's
messed up, man. He flew in
320 people. Oh, yo. Check this
out. Oh, yo. Yeah. But guess
how he flew him. first class.
Oh, oh. Is is there is there any way? Oh, can you just file bankruptcy?
Hey, you the if you ain't got no money, it's hard to file bankruptcy. You ain't got no
money because guess what? Your credit gonna be shot. So what you gonna put up? What you
gonna put up for collateral? I mean, the more people you say, hey, can we get this?
The more women you say,
what I'm gonna get it with ass amount?
We ain't got no money.
What am I paying with it for, Ocho?
What am I paying with it?
What am I going to pay to get what you're asking for?
So if he doesn't have, the thing is,
the best thing to have if you don't have
money is to have great credit. You can have f-dub credit if you got money. You
see how that works? Yeah. But enough people don't care and think about it
anytime you try to buy something what are you gonna do? They gonna pull them credit
scores. Credit scores? Equifax, Empyrean, what's the other one?
Experian.
So at this point in general-
Trans-Union, they got three of them.
Now, some might be a little higher than the other one,
but I feel very good.
Mine all start with eight.
I ain't gonna tell you what else they got.
You know what comes after that,
but I feel very comfortable.
All three of mine start with eight.
Right.
But okay, but I got a little bit of money.
I ain't saying I'm the richest man in the world,
but I got great credit and I do have a little cash,
but I'm not doing anything to impress anybody.
I'm not buying no $10 million home.
I'm not buying no million dollar car.
I'm not buying no no million dollar car. I'm not buying flying people in
Oh
Oh, I used to have a party in Glenville
Must say y'all could drive in. Hey, you welcome to come you ain't got to bring nothing
I got all the alcohol. I got a hundred pound of crab leg hundred pound of shrimp. We got like
100, you know 200 hot dogs
200 hamburgers all all that. Look, hey, have at it. But to get there the best way you can. Preferably I'd prefer
you to walk because you're going to be drunk by the time you leave. Now I don't want nobody
to have no accident. Not going to work. Thank God. We're watching over. Nobody got no DUI.
Nobody got hurt. But I ain't pressing nobody. Man. Man, who? Y'all know I got money.
I'm playing in NFL.
I'm the highest paid X, Y, and Z,
but I'm not finna impress nobody.
Yeah.
A theme birthday party.
Blue jeans, T-shirt, shorts, flip flops,
sandals, whatever, that's the theme.
Too.
I don't even celebrate my birthday.
I just say, I say, save me a little prayer.
I'm glad to see, glad to see another year.
Yeah.
Give me a little Starbucks, give me a cigar, man,
and kick my feet up.
That's another.
That's how I just feel.
I just feel bad, Ocho, that people come in and,
I mean, some people never see,
some people will never see a million dollars
in their lifetime.
And I get it when they say, when they say he made over a hundred million,
you figure Uncle Sam gonna take 50% of that.
So that's 50 million.
Let's just say, Ocho, I throw 25 million,
I just throw 25.
You still gotta have 25 left.
Even after your agent take his cut,
back then they take what, three, four percent?
I don't know, five five if they pay for everything.
Nah and people like oh kids kids don't live here's the thing.
Yes my grandpa used to say my grandpa told my brother now we were young he said the worst
kind of poor you can be is child poor. Don't let that go over your head people.
That's an 18 year expense.
That's damn near as long as your mortgage.
Now just imagine your mortgage you got one.
Because there ain't a people, there ain't very many people that have seven mortgages.
So you start having five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 kids.
Okay. And they're not by one.
Guess what, Ocho?
That's 18 years.
I know I done done the math.
Oh, shoot.
I done done it too, plenty of times.
Okay.
So you know what that mean?
That's right.
That's right.
Shannon, you ain't with no vacation.
Hell no, my vacation was right there.
That was my vacation was right there
That's that was my vacation right there
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