Goes Without Saying - how to *feel* festive: podmas #9
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Welcome back to Santa 8 and 9.
Podmas.
Episode 9.
Episode 9.
We've came through that first week.
I can't believe.
Okay, so this is Saturday's episode.
That is crazy.
Welcome to the weekend, guys.
You made it.
Welcome to the weekend.
Bringing you into the weekend with the sounds of Sephie and Wig.
That's really like a GTA radio station.
How's everyone feeling this fine weekend?
Bloody hell.
Well, how are you feeling?
For us right now, it's Friday night.
It's the Friday night, yeah.
It's five to six on the Friday weekend.
Friday night, guys.
It's late at night.
How are you feeling?
Well, you know, I felt better,
but I think this episode would be quite apt
because we've just spent the past, like,
basically hour kind of moaning to each other
about all of the wrong in the world.
I just about to lie.
Classically.
So I feel like this will be nice
to kind of help people who are feeling a little the wrong in the world classically so i feel like this will be nice to
kind of help people who are feeling a little bit down in the dumps and yeah and um want to kind of
get into the spirit and feel good what about you i feel like it's one of the things that people
always say just like i'm not feeling christmasy yet and i think i say all the time i just don't
feel christmasy yet just don't feel christmasy yet or like it's just this whole christmas i
haven't felt christmasy at all and i hate that feeling because i used to fucking love feeling christmasy i feel like when
you're younger and you're in a lucky and privileged position feeling festive and christmasy is kind of
something that happens to you and as you get older it isn't passive anymore it isn't just something
that happens to you you have to do it to yourself you have to like force yourself into feeling that like positive sparkly christmas magic-y way which gets
harder and harder the more you open your eyes to how shit this world can be also like when you're
in that school environment the hype is built up to almost like a sickening amount like i remember
lying in bed on christmas eve like thinking like i'm gonna i'm gonna be sick i'm so excited like i'm like gonna i don't know i'm gonna
almost faint be sick i burst into tears like many times receiving a present just from the overwhelm
of like almost like god i can't believe this is happening to me yeah i've got nintendogs oh my god isn't he gonna cry i even cried when i got um i got animal crossing for
the 3ds i don't know which one that was i think it was new leaf and this was like when i was quite
old like i was probably like 18 19 but i cried like out i like ran out of the room and cried
because it reminded me of that first feat of the first thing of like crying and getting my
like getting my ds
and getting nintendogs i mean that's and i was almost like that it hits me so hard seeing like
a game in a box i kind of start like sobbing but like when you're younger that countdown is almost
bought built into your syllabus of your life at school it's like right we're rehearsing for a
nativity we're watching a dvd on the last day it's built in that excitement is just like it's part of the kind of the christian agenda of um school at times
that you're doing all this stuff and now you just don't really have that if you're in charge of your
own routine totally because you're doing it now for yourself and i think for a lot of us like
it's kind of what did you say the other day that you were like oh it was when you were talking
about advent calendars um and you were like for the, it was when you were talking about advent calendars.
And you were like, for a few years you just didn't have one because your mum stopped buying you one.
Oh my god, I haven't had my chocolate yet today.
Neither have I.
And I didn't have yesterday's, Jesus Christ.
Neither have I, I'm way behind.
What the hell?
I know, look at me, I'm a mess.
Well, I might have it now.
Can't stay on top of anything.
Yeah, you should.
Wait, wait for one second for me to get it.
Absolutely.
Yum.
Here it is is what's it
got on the front i really don't like the design they've done this year okay well i didn't see it
last year either this year this year i don't like it so it's holding a bit of chocolate but i don't
find it an impressive design i think he's pretty cute and he's blue but he's yeah he's gonna look
back to them blue when you've opened all the doors all over oh my god i guess oh my god i haven't had seven or eight i'm gonna do them in order seven
yeah nice let this be a little moment for you guys too yeah everyone get their choccy asmr but
i can't get it out what was it and it's gone bit in it what was the design oh there's no design
they're all the all the same there are um they're 24 creamy chalk
drops alexa turn off 24 creamy chalk drops yum they're all the same oh that's what he's holding
good for him that's what they all look like little kind of reindeer shits because my mum when she
opened her first one she was like so this time i've got like a little teardrop yeah that's what
i was gonna say yeah it's like kind of teardrop of all the horrible christmas has passed i think that's a bit of a thing as
well when you've had maybe like one or two or three or maybe multiple like shitty christmases
you're then not only fighting against like the kind of mundane apathy of being an adult on planet
earth but also the kind of living memory of the shit experiences that you've had
in previous years and like i think something that's really hard to stomach but it is actually
just true is that there's no other way around it other than like it's kind of nobody's coming harry
it's like no one's undoing those memories for you and no one is building a gingerbread house for you
and getting you to sit down and if you're you know on your own no one's putting christmas music on
for you that's on you like no one is encouraging you to make plans with your friends and i think if these
are tendencies that you have like generally in life to like neglect neglect yourself and like
not invest in time and things that are going to make you feel good when it comes to the festive
season when there's so much social messaging around like quality time and everything yeah it's such a heightened experience to feel
like you're kind of it's quite isolating i think i had a therapy session recently which was quite
different i'm like in the process right now i'm on like my ninth session so like i don't know how
many the nhs usually give you i think it could be like 10 or 12, but I think I've got 12. But one of the sessions, it was kind of a one-off episode.
Like one-off episode.
Shows up in my life.
It was a pocket episode.
It was a special little crossover episode.
It was just a one-off special guest episode.
It was the Hanamontana on deck.
Jesus Christ.
That actually is quite telling.
That was like, I'm going to cry.
That's bad.
That was excitement level of
i can't handle this yeah and the and the disney channel games that was also i'm gonna be sick if
i'm not on the blue team wowza oh my god that cuts to myself inside like almost like oh my god i'm
with mitchell moose come on mitchell we've got to win awful um and what's his name corbin blue corbin blue and it's like how am i gonna style
this uniform that they've put us in like i need to look good in the kit you don't want to be team
yellow in my opinion but well i didn't um but in my pocket episode um special guest starring
therapy session we did a sort of session about how to get your values into your day sort of thing or like
core needs into your day so she was like the night before because just because I have a tendency just
kind of go through my life without thinking like am I happy did that make me feel good like why did
I do that thing like blah blah blah in the most common way but like she was like if everyone needs to fit three things
into their day like connection pleasure and achievement in the most basic way and they can
be anything like you could literally write down like structure your day the day before like not
in a strict way but almost write down connection stroke my dog 9 30 um doesn't need to happen at
9 30 but you plan to do a little nod or like a little thing
that's achievement today record this podcast good i feel good about it i can remember that i actually
achieve something yeah and like pleasure rather than just like i'm drinking my hot chocolate
before i know i've had my hot chocolate i've just moved on it's like no that was your moment of
pleasure enjoy your hot chocolate yeah it's actually so nice and it's almost like as well not going through your life by accident. It's like, oh, I accidentally
like had a hot chocolate. I didn't really think much of it. I just did that whilst I was on my
way to whatever. It's like really setting the moment and being like, giving yourself some
structure. And I'm just going to use the word intention, even though for some reason I'm
fighting it. Because it just feels so like wishy washy. but it is intention no it is and that's what feels nice about it that you've been like I want to feel a connection with the world or with someone
or something and now I'm going to structure that into my day so that I've been like or not even
don't even just structure it in a strict way but be like right now I feel like what I'm lacking
is connection okay here are my ways in which I can connect with someone I can text one of my
friends I can listen to a podcast or music or film or something that makes me feel seen and connected
to the world go on a walk I can do all these things that I can speak to someone in a shop
like it can be that little read a book whatever but actually having the intention to be like I
think that is what I need right now yeah by actually listening to kind of your body and
being like what does it actually want right now is a really really i think important lesson to learn and and um i know what i want
and i deserve to give it to myself sort of thing it's like not just like oh well now what like oh
everything's shit sort of thing and just kind of sitting in the discomfort of life but being like
okay so many things i can't change but i can do three minor things tomorrow for myself and also the minor
things i think when you feel shit you almost think that it takes a big thing to get you out of it
in my experience i can do the most tiny things don't make me say tiny my room again but it can
be the most tiny thing i can go make a cup of tea just the intention to go and do something so tiny and actually following through with it and like
taking the moment it's like oh shit like it was a tiny action that could have got me out of
four hours of spiraling i do think with mental health like it's a very cumulative process
especially because yeah the cycle can either be really destructive and i think we can all
acknowledge like when we're in a destructive cycle but conveniently we think that there can't be like
an upward kind of spiral like yeah it can only go down yeah we're like oh well classic you do one
thing and it leads to another and then before you know it you're in the pits blah blah blah but it's
like okay but wouldn't it also be nice to acknowledge try yeah try and appreciate the
idea that maybe you could also hit an upward spiral
and do one little thing that leads to another little thing that gets you out of the pits and
makes you feel good but when obviously you're feeling shit all of this nonsense is gonna make
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What are you going to say?
Someone's just hovering outside my room.
We've got a loiterer on our hands.
Still hot.
Still hot.
Students out of bed.
Students out of bed.
Are they going down the stairs?
My room's in the place where the loiterer's loiter, I must say.
Top of the stairs, summer vibe.
Okay, the loiterer's gone.
Good.
Not that it matters, but Jesus Christ.
We're telling super if it's on here.
We are.
I'm trying to do a thing at the moment.
I heard it on a podcast and I was like,
oh, I do think that's really...
It was like with a neuroscientist talking.
Oh, nice.
And they were talking about the brain,
as the neuroscientist would.
Yeah, as they would, yeah.
And they were talking about the way
that we're so inclined to see the negative,
like not even neutral or anything,
where just everything is like, oh, I could try and do that oh well i'll probably fuck up i probably can't do
that but she was talking about how it's so important and actually does change the chemistry
of your brain to be like oh i want to do this thing what if it all goes well and she was saying
that every day she asks herself when she faces a challenge what's the best thing that could happen
here and i just think god that is so different to how i think i always think
oh it's inevitably like we're a different species inevitably wrong inevitably shit inevitably
causes a world of pain for everyone just don't do it yeah sort of thing but actually just to think
oh what's the best that could thing that could happen here it's like oh wait that just that
isn't even unrealistic it's as unrealistic as the thing that could happen here it's like oh wait that just that isn't even unrealistic
it's as unrealistic as the thing that i was imagining which was the so i'm gonna probably
settle somewhere in the middle now very nice and i love it yeah i love that i love that what are
some things that you are doing or maybe want to do to make yourself feel a bit festive at this time
of year i don't think i've watched a single christmas movie other than the one we watched together oh yeah but that didn't really that was a different christmas movie we
we went basically we went to this like sky cinema event which was amazing but we were more focused
on the food they just kept like kind of funneling they were plying they were really like they were
trying to fatten us up bottoms up pieces up we Bottoms up. To cook us on Christmas. Pieces up. We came out of that feeling so sick.
I mean, I was drunk.
I was like really like.
I wasn't.
I only had one drink.
I was properly drunk and full to the brim.
The drinks were so sweet.
I actually couldn't stomach them.
But, and they were just like fruity.
My opposite of, like one was like tea flavoured.
You did forget that you were driving for a moment there.
But it was lucky that the drinks were so sweet yeah because i couldn't drink them the most sweet
one was the non-alcoholic one which was crazy yeah that was horrific go on when i mean a christmas
movie i mean like home alone i want to watch like any nostalgic christmas movies nativity one
santa claus no never santa claus what why never santa claus i've just never seen it yeah you don't
you don't you're not open just doesn't it's like it doesn't really have the home aloneness to
me no it doesn't have home aloneness completely different ball game i need cheeky cheeky cheeky
santa claus is is cheeky gonzalez i used to really have a crush on the guy especially in the second
one i think okay like the little boy not tim allen not. Not the dad. Not Santa.
Spoiler.
But it has really beautiful melodies in it,
like Bernard the Elf, he's great.
And they say things like,
a rose such a clatter and things like that. Oh yeah, you said that, yeah.
That's kind of built into me.
We should watch them at some point.
Oh, 100%.
Maybe we should get into the Christmas spirit.
No, we need to, we need to.
Yeah, I don't think I feel, I saw something today that made me feel really Christmassy and into the Christmas spirit. No, we need to. We need to. Yeah, I don't think I feel...
I saw something today that made me feel really Christmassy
and in the weirdest way.
I walked past at the community cafe.
I walked past.
There's like a table that's like, help yourself.
Like, it's all free.
Just take anything from it.
God, you've never told me that before.
There weren't these Christmas cards on there.
Wow, see me there tomorrow.
It was so cool.
There were like loads and loads of pink wafers on there the other day nice and i was like pink wafers did you take them they weren't vegan
i checked the ingredients i was like oh no one's gonna eat them okay but i did think pink wafers
god i haven't and they went like like hotcakes like pink wafers honestly guys and but today
there were these quite ugly christmas cards and i got such a flashback of, did you at school used to like all send Christmas cards
into like an imaginary, there was like a big post box.
Yeah, very true.
And they'd go around the school and everyone would send like Christmas cards to everyone.
It's kind of none for Gretchen Wieners by, that sort of thing.
Yeah, it's exactly that.
None for Gretchen Wieners.
It's literally that.
It is.
Glen Coco, whatever the fuck that shit is.
It's exactly that and i just got it was
just the the picture was like of this kind of girl angel with brown hair looking down and it was
exactly the sort of thing that as a kid i would be like that's me that's me like i would have loved
it and it threw me back just like the style of illustration it's like god i haven't seen that kind of festive semi-religious festive old woman cheap yeah kind of card that's in a pack of 50 in ages
and i want it from the help yourself table and did you take it no you know i didn't i might take it
tomorrow you're you're a leader in the community oh boy am i no you really are you really are
people were asking today about there was this woman asking um
how's the thing that you do that i don't know what it is and someone else said it's a podcast
honestly same i don't know honestly honestly and how is it good it's good it's going well
but someone else then said oh i'm gonna tell my husband about your podcast because he's looking
for new podcasts and i was like no no no no please no just divert divert the topic yeah terrifying territory just always like oh it's oh there's a
customer one second oh i'm so sorry my dinner's ready i have to go yeah i think i think my phone's
ringing just absolutely terrifying husband shout out husbands out there i bet there are some
someone's gotta be a husband some hate all the husbands out there? I bet there are some. Someone's got to be a husband. Some hate all the husbands out there.
At quarter past six on a Friday afternoon.
Yeah.
How are you guys?
Hi there to the husbands.
Are you feeling festive yet?
I felt festive in the cinema with you the other day.
Did you?
Yeah, because there was an advert playing about like...
Oh, you loved that advert.
Because you were going to the toilet.
Yeah, I went back from the toilet and I came back.
She was like, look how good this advert is. I really came back and you were going to talk yeah i went back and i came back she was like look how
good this is i really came back and you were like you were kind of beaming at me from this like from
across the room and i was like god what was gonna happen like when i come and sit back down you were
like look at this advert it's so good i'm scared you're gonna miss it but it's like an audi advert
right or like a saint yeah it's about but the whole thing is it's willy wonka it's like these
selfish children in the chocolate river which we do love yeah oh you've seen it no i just meant willy wonka
the person oh we love willy we love willy wonka but i do don't like willy he's a fucking pedophile
he's a psychopath he's a murderer terrifying yeah murderous pedophile yeah really scary
yeah can't wait to see his prequel yeah no no i genuinely can't wait can't wait yeah um i
think that came out today actually yeah but wouldn't be surprised um yeah i'm glad you felt
festive in the cinema the other day that's what i think it is i think like i mean that was a pretty
special moment i would say it was yeah because we had the luxury of like yeah watching salt burn in
the cinema it was just we were in a really nice, like, I love that cinema so much.
Divine, divine cinema. And we just had a perfect experience.
But, like, I do think it's kind of what your therapist was saying,
it's kind of the crux of the episode,
is just, like, little, tiny, teeny, small things
of, like, almost, you're getting ready,
you can feel yourself in a bad mood,
and it's, like, put on a song that is so obnoxiously camp
and, like, hysterically pop
that you can't help but be like this is fucking
iconic i'm laughing while i'm listening to it and then it kind of will shake you out of it like
almost beat the like let the physical beat your emotional state to the punch of feeling shit
yeah god that's stunning okay lovely podmas up nine hope you're feeling good we slayed so see you tomorrow oh we didn't
open we didn't do our little oh god what's in the door we'll never know under the door is what was
it today it was this it's how to feel good yeah oh we're idiots should we go back and put that in
yeah all right that's a little easy now you're hearing us now in that bit yeah okay what's
behind the door?
It's how... What was it again?
I guess how to feel festive.
Okay.
Go again.
What's behind the door?
It's how to feel festive.
Woohoo.
Assume we slay too hard.
Bye.
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