History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - 42 - JONESTOWN WAS WILD!!!!
Episode Date: November 25, 2018Chris and Yannis discuss Jonestown and how WILD it was. The soundboard makes its return and we give our $25 dollar patreon members a call from the cackle! WILD!Want more Hyena content? Check out www.p...atreon.com/bayridgeboys where things get really WILD!Follow us!: 🙆🏼♂️🐕🙆🏻♂️🙆🏼♂️Chris Distefano on Instagram, Twitter, website🙆🏻♂️Yannis Pappas on Instagram, Twitter, website🐕History Hyenas on Instagram, Twitter, website Subscribe to the poddy woddy on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, and HH Clips
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Welcome to another episode of History Hyenas.
I am Chris DiStefano, a.k.a. Chrissy Kniptions.
With me, as always, Giannis Pappas, a.k.a. The Gay Greek.
We have Zach Ice's face.
And then we have our boy, James Mad Dog Maddern, a.k.a. James the Jew.
So we got a full house in here today, buh-buh.
Yeah, our old friend James Maddern.
James Maddern.
Dr. James Maddern.
Dr. James Maddern.
Dr. James Maddern.
He went from Mad Dog, which he has tattooed on his arm, to James.
Now, James recently moved to Bay Ridge, so he is, in fact, the third Bay Ridge boy now.
Yeah.
And what we love about James has been dear friends since day one.
Is that he's Franks and Beans.
Is that he's Franks and Beans.
I am so not Franks.
He's got a huge glue gun.
He does have a huge glue gun.
He's got the biggest cock you've ever seen in your life.
Because, you see, James proves my theory that the universe is balanced.
Okay.
Okay, because he's got a nice piece.
Right.
He's got a nice, fat, juicy piece.
Yeah, big dick.
But his head is shaped like Bert from Bert and Ernie.
It's what it is.
It's what it is.
All right, so you've been saying this for a while.
Because are you a Mexican or a Jew?
I need to know.
Yeah. Bert's head goes up. All right, so you've been saying this for a while. Are you a Mexican or a Jew? I need to know.
Bert's head goes up.
You always used to start this by going, hey, Bert, because you're impersonating Ernie.
My head is more like Ernie than Bert if it's going to. Oh, which one's the yellow one?
It's Bert.
I'm not sure.
You're Bert, yeah.
My head is so not shaped like Bert.
Let the caliphate see it.
Can you pull up a pic of Bert and Ernie's act?
And then you take off your hat for the caliphate. Yeah. Did we pull up, can you pull up a pic of Bert and Ernie's act? And then you take off your hat for the caliphate.
Yeah.
Did you go?
Jihadi with a body.
Because Jihadi with a body, the fans were pissed with you this week.
But he's a 23-year-old kid and it's what it is.
It's just what it is.
Yeah.
It's just he has nothing prepared.
He's just flying by the seat of his pants.
I mean, it's what it is.
It's what it is.
But we pay him 50 bucks an episode and make no mistake,
for a 23-year-old kid.
75.
75 bucks.
We gave him a raise.
Nice country, huh?
$75 for a 23-year-old kid
is fucking,
he's a millionaire.
Because I think the problem is
he has like 18 podcasts.
My head is so not that.
Look at this.
Let's see.
I mean, yeah.
Not a shit.
It doesn't look like that.
You look like Burt
with those eyebrows. The brows. Because the brows and the head. Okay, now take off the hat. Not a chance. It doesn't look like that. You look like Burt with those eyebrows.
The brows.
Because the brows and the head.
Okay, now take off the hat.
You tell me.
He doesn't have a bob.
He doesn't look more like...
Like goddamn Burt.
Look at this.
Take it off, Burt.
Now, can you move the headphones just a little bit, buh-buh?
Oh, buh-buh.
Yeah, baby.
Chris, you really believe this nonsense?
I mean, I don't believe it.
What do you say, Johnny?
Can you see it? I definitely see it. You can it. What do you say, Johnny? Can you see it?
I definitely see it.
You can see it.
It's okay, Bubba.
Are you out of your mind that you could see this kid?
I mean, he's got a...
I just don't look like him.
You want to know why he thinks that?
Because he has eyes.
I want Rafael DeLuca, Andrew Agos, any of our go-tos, Jeremiah Metzger, to pull up,
post, find a pic of James Mad Dog Man Matter, and then get a pic of Ernie.
Is it Bert or Ernie?
Who's in yellow?
That's Bert.
This is going to happen to me now.
Get a pic of Bert.
The rest of my life.
And superimpose glasses on them, and we'll see.
We'll be the judge.
We'll put up a poll on at History Hyenas on Instagram, and let the fans decide.
And we're talking to two of you specifically, Andrew Agos.
And Rafael De Luca.
Who's a fucking doctor, by the way.
Who's a doctor who's coming to my Chicago shows.
And Jeremiah Metzger.
Metzger, yeah.
Those are the two guys who do the best work.
They do the best ones.
And De Luca, if you want to make a song about this, you can.
Which, by the way, we will be debuting Rafael De Luca's best work,
his new single entitled Weishan Qian.
Listen, it's just what it is.
Rafael De Luca is the world's most educated DJ it's just what it is. Rafael DeLuca is the world's most educated DJ.
That's what it is.
Probably the biggest slacker in the history of the United States.
Yeah, Harvard probably would give him his money back so they could just erase his diploma.
How many people went to Harvard to become a DJ?
What a fucking waste of a spot that could have went to an Asian kid.
Yeah.
Could have went to anybody god
you gotta love the asians today is going to be a fucking wild episode we're going to be talking
about your daughter loves asians my daughter loves asians and she got her first report card and it's
all positive but she the teacher did say that other than outside of the her asian friends she
pushes and is mean to all the rest of the students and that's's just her Puerto Rican side. It's what it is.
Or maybe it's her German side. Who knows?
On the inside, she's always going to be like,
stay away from... Listen, this
is my girl Sunyi. You better stay
away from her. I'm here to protect her because
I need to put her to this math class.
She's going to be like...
It's good to
finally have the soundboard back.
Eight weeks later.
Eight weeks fucking later.
Last week, I didn't even know it was on.
He did the Wei Zhong Jing's from his iPhone.
Yeah.
Last week, nobody could hear the podcast because he didn't turn the volume on.
And it's just what it is.
It's just one of those things that's, I think, lovable about our pod is just how Zach can be a fucking genius and then also a 23 year old kid
I just need to correct
something from last week
I said something that was extremely
franks and beans
I said that the Korean War
was the only
non-proxy war
against
a communist nation to contain
communist i.e. the domino effect that we were trying to ward off.
Okay.
You know what war I forgot about?
The Cold War.
The fucking Vietnam War.
Oh, yeah.
It's a big one.
Yeah.
And you keep saying the Cold War.
The Cold War is not a war.
You're a little Franks and Beans as well.
You have a PhD, but you're fucking Franks and Beans.
The Cold War.
Yeah, but it still was a standoff.
It counts.
It's called a Cold War because it was not actually fought.
It was just cold.
It was just.
What it is.
Because when your hair's not gelled, you do look like a troll doll or actually Ernie.
It's gelled right now.
I know.
When you look gelled, you're so fucking handsome.
Because you know what it is?
Because if I was a gay kid, I would like to put my dick on you.
You know what's something I noticed about you and I've noticed it for a long time now
and I've just been trying to put in the right words?
Yeah.
You're a kid who, since you've been in your mid-20s, is always on the precipice of going
bald.
You always look like you could start to go bald, but you're not balding, but you always
look like you're close.
I know.
That's why you're close.
Cuz.
You're just always just about to go bald.
But I got a full head of hair.
You have a full head of hair.
Yeah.
But it's kind of a little thin, sort of like an 80-year-old guy.
Yeah.
But your dad has a full head of hair.
He does.
So you're not ever going to go bald.
That's the thing.
But it's all about balance with you.
Because my dad could not remember that he was part of the Greek battalion, which was at Outpost Harry.
And you saw I posted on our Instagram.
Right.
I posted on our Instagram all the credentials.
His bronze star.
His bronze star and his star from the Greek king and his service when he left 53.
Yeah, which was Outpost Harry.
He kept saying on the podcast that the Greeks were not at Outpost Harry.
Do you remember that?
He's like, no, they were not at Outpost Harry.
It was great podcast fodder.
And then coincidentally, I told you this.
I was texting you.
Coincidentally, when I took – my dad always goes because my dad's white trash.
He always goes to this Dunkin' Donuts in Highland Boulevard Shopping Center on Staten Island.
So I took – I was with my dad and my daughter because that's like where where he escapes, you know, it's all these old timers that just sitting at
Dunkin Donuts. And one of the guys there, forgetting his last name, 80 something year old
guy was in the Korean War. So it was just coincidence that he was wearing a Korean War
vet hat. And he said he only started wearing the hat a couple years ago, because his son demanded
he do it. But he's like, I never used to like to talk about it but he was 20 years old when he went to the korean war and he was a tanker and what he said was he
said this he said look he said a lot of people what they don't know about war he said is you know
we don't know what we're doing when we get there so we go through a couple weeks of basic training
he said but most of the guys who go to war are stupid he said i was a stupid guy i've been a
stupid fucking stupid are they fucking stupid he said I've been a stupid guy. They're fucking stupid?
Are they fucking stupid?
He said, I've been stupid my whole life.
He said, and they put me in a tank.
20 years old.
He said, and they just put me in a tank.
He said, so I don't know what I was blowing the shit out of, but I was blowing the shit out of something.
He's like, I was just pressing that cannon button because that's all I knew how to do.
He said, if the tank broke or if my gun broke i didn't know really what to do he said what a lot of people don't really don't know and you can never know
and get from a movie or from anything he said is the smell of war he said the smell of war has never
escaped me at all he said are you saying you smell a guy guys shitting yourself you know
because shit himself and also korean barbecue probably has its scent. So are you saying that war has fumes?
War has got fumes.
Fumes.
And war is 100% always avoidable.
Yeah.
It's just what?
It's population control, right?
I don't know if it's 100% avoidable.
I think just as much as it's avoidable, I think a lot of times it's inevitable.
It's inevitable, true.
Yeah.
I mean, like we said, we said it last week on the free cast.
By the way, if you're not a member of the Patreon, I like to sneak in right in the middle of the episode.
Because at the end, a lot of people just turn it off.
Patreon.com slash Bay Ridge Boys.
There's tons of bonus episodes that you need to catch up on.
But on the free episode, we said, was the Korean War, was it a moral war?
I mean, the North Koreans attacked the South Koreans and wanted to take over the whole country and make it communism.
And as we know now, communism is kind of brutes.
Brutes my go.
You know who was a communist?
Who?
Jim Joe.
He was a socialist.
And a communist.
He was a fucking communist.
Bastard.
And he was a true blue psychopath.
TBP.
A little bit.
Yeah, and we're going to talk about Jim Jones and Jonestown today.
And it's weird because there's a couple of similarities between Jim Jones and Chrissy D.
Let's start off by saying the similarities that you noticed.
First of all, yeah, you're TBP.
We know that.
Yeah.
You got a smaller amygdala.
And I posted your brain scan on History Hyena's Instagram.
Yes, and it's what it is.
So what's the similarity?
So the similarities are sexually deviant, number one.
Yeah.
You're not so much deviant.
Not deviant, but like-
You're hypersexual.
Hypersexual is what I meant.
Yeah, I'm not deviant.
Hypersexual.
And you like noncommittal, promiscuous sex.
Yes.
You like risky sex.
Yes.
Yeah.
But who doesn't?
Can I ask that?
You always bring that up with him, but who isn't into that?
Me.
That's so crazy to me.
You don't like that thrill of just, let's see how this happens one time.
No, I don't have a hole in my soul like you.
Oh, stop.
I'm sorry. We look like Muppets, apparently, so that's a hole in my soul like you. Oh, stop. I'm sorry.
We look like Muppets apparently, so that's what Muppets want to do.
We're fucking Muppet-ed out.
We want emptiness.
I got a small peanut head.
I look like Beetlejuice.
Yes.
So we're even.
And you're scared of women deep down.
Deep down, I'm scared of women.
Yeah.
But here's the thing about James.
We have to...
He's very open about it, so it's okay.
Right?
We can talk about it.
I don't know what you're about to bring up, and I have to leave in like 10 minutes.
He does got a big glue gun.
Like probably the biggest glue gun of our friends.
Yeah.
Hey, Bert.
He does look like Ernie.
Yeah.
He does.
He's got a Jewish face as well.
He's got a little bit of Jew face.
Way song she ain't.
Now, you're on point, Jihadi.
Now, here's the thing.
The reason why we don't know, we don't know whether James, come on, this is good fodder for the matriarchy.
Can we talk about this?
Can we talk about it?
Of course we can.
Please.
All right.
The reason why we don't know if James is Mexican or Jewish.
His mom was a toot.
My mom was a toot.
Yeah.
He's not saying it as an insult.
He's saying it's what it is.
It's what it is.
There's facts of life.
Yeah, his mom was an actual toot.
I mean, for real.
Professional toot.
High end.
High end toot.
Professional toot.
So your dad could be anybody from Steve Wynn to fucking to who knows.
If it was Steve Wynn, that would make sense, because my grandpa used to run
food and beverage for Steve Wynn and told him to go
fuck himself at one point, so that would add a little more
insult to him walking away from being
a potential millionaire. You have one of the most interesting lives
of anyone I've ever met. Mom was a toot,
and grandparents were
Hitler youth. They were not Hitler...
My grandma was, because she was
in Germany in 10,
and so there was no option.
I love it.
These guys will tease me when we're walking the water in Bay Ridge.
Like, my grandma could check a box, Hitler Youth or other.
Like, you had to go and wear that stupid uniform.
No choice.
And interestingly enough, bringing that Hitler Youth up, that brings me to the second identifying characteristic of me and Jim Jones.
Jim Jones, he was born in 1931, so World War II, he was 10, 11, 12 years old,
sometime in there, and all the kids in Indiana, the town he was from in Indiana,
would make believe, as all the kids were across the United States,
that they were going to be Allied soldiers.
They would play the game of war, and they're all Allied soldiers, except one.
Jim Jones envisioned he was Hitler and got turned on and got the chills from Hitler's speeches
as I have been known to do a time or two
watching Hitler on YouTube.
Zach, can I just get a few Wei Shangxings, please?
Wei Shangxing.
Jesus Christ.
Wei Shangxing.
No, no, no.
I'm not pro-Hitler.
Well, you get the chills listening to him speak, guys.
No, no, no.
But everybody, it's literally, but you have to, there's nothing to admire about Hitler,
but the kid could speak and sell tickets.
The kid definitely did.
That's all I'm saying.
He filled seats.
Yeah, Jim Jones actually liked Hitler.
I fucking despise Hitler, but I have to admit, the kid could sell some tickets.
It is what it is.
He didn't like Hitler's, well, yeah, he probably did.
He liked Hitler.
He made believe he was Hitler.
He studied all the big guys.
Stalin, Marx, Hitler.
All the guys who stood out or sold tickets or really were leaders.
He was obsessed with those guys.
I mean, from a young age, he was a true blue psychopath.
We'll get into that.
Because make no mistake, if Hitler was alive right now, he'd have a pretty big Patreon.
He would have a nice podcast.
Yeah.
Because his podcast would be wild.
Can you imagine Hitler's fucking podcast?
Mein Kampf Weekly?
Yeah.
It would be pretty huge, unfortunately.
Yeah, you would.
Jihadi would have produced it.
That would be funny.
Jihadi would have body fucks up Hitler's audio?
Yeah.
Now, yeah. So this is interesting stuff. James' mother was an actual toot. That would be funny Jihadi with a body Fucks up Hitler's audio Yeah Now
Yeah
So
This is interesting stuff
James
James' mother was an actual toot
Now what we do know
What we do know
Is that James' mother did
Spend some time in Mexico
Yes
Around the time
She ran away to Mexico
Yeah
While she was pregnant with you
We don't know the timeline
We
There's speculation
She was knocked up And went there There's speculation She came back Knocked up She never came pregnant with you. We don't know the timeline. There's speculation she was knocked up and went there.
There's speculation she came back knocked up.
She never came clean with you.
She once cried.
When this all kind of came out, she started bawling to me.
It's like, I don't know who your father is.
While me, her, and my stepdad at the time were about to watch a WCW pay-per-view.
Oh, beautiful.
So it got awkward, and then we watched D. Malenko and Rey Mysterio
and forgot all about it.
Because you have no
brothers and sisters,
no biological brothers and sisters.
That I know of, no,
but there's probably
all kinds of chaos going on.
I probably slept with
a relative by this point.
Now, he's from Vegas,
so truth be told,
his story's actually
a pretty normal story
for somebody born in Vegas.
Vegas.
And what thing,
an admirable thing...
You know nothing of Vegas,
Jon Snow.
I mean, Vegas is a wild place.
The thing about the dog that's the most admirable to me is that the childhood he had, which
from all accounts was a very good childhood, but still to deal with the demons that you
have to deal with, that you never turn to drugs and alcohol to escape that pain just
shows how strong of a guy you actually are.
Yeah, you are very strong.
My family was like, the mom was a drug addict.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
It's all in you.
You had all the reasons to do it, and you never did.
So it's just pure, pure strength.
Yeah, that's you, Will Power, and also your Nazi grandmother who raised you.
Yeah.
Was very strong.
And she instigated you.
Yeah.
That also comes from Ridgewood.
So your grandmother, did she talk like this when she spoke to you?
Did she speak like this?
Hi, James.
Listen, I know you're moving to New York City.
And from what I understand, there's a lot of Jews that live there.
Now, I never had anything wrong with the Jews.
But Hitler, he did a lot of good things for Germany at the beginning.
How many times did you hear that as a child, that it started off good?
So this is what's crazy is like I'm going to meet up with like my family.
Right now.
Whose mother was my grandma.
So we were talking about it last night.
Did you guys say hello like this a little bit?
We said hello like that.
I hate you so much.
I love the formal, the quick one.
They just have that quick one.
Don't got time for the whole just like.
That's when there's a lot of people.
You just throw that.
You know what I mean?
Just, hey, hey.
So my grandma was visiting her grandma and she was going to meet up with a friend at the movies.
And then on my grandma's grandma's like, you got to hang out with me today.
I need you to do this.
And so she missed the movies.
And that's lucky because the allies bombed the movie theater and her friend died.
Yeah.
Those dirty fucking allies. We i mean zach can we get one please
i mean you might as well just man that button when chrissy opens his mouth yeah whenever you
see head movement like he's about to talk just get your finger fucking ready yeah
so yeah so that's the story of James Mad Dog his grandmother
was a Nazi
Jesus Christ
she wasn't a Nazi
she was a Hitler youth
you can't get more
of a Nazi than that
because you would've been too
if you were born there
you would've had
no option
so bottom line is
Mad Dog
bottom line is
Mad Dog
is an adopted
Mexican Nazi
in a nutshell
I'm glad I'm up
for a Disney job
when I showed up on this.
20 minutes of this shit.
Oh, it doesn't matter, Bubba.
We're going to get that fucking Disney job
one way or another.
And glorious bastards over here.
Yeah, listen,
if we get the Patreon,
first of all,
if we get the Patreon to 1,000,
we made it,
Chris sent me a photo of his feet,
which are unbelievable.
And actually,
my fiance's father is a chief podiatrist.
So we made a video, me and my fiance made a video of us showing her father Chris's feet and diagnosing his feet.
And it is fucking hysterical.
You said my feet are dislocated.
Don't give it away, cuz.
Jesus fucking Christ.
That's what it is.
Wild.
Yeah, we want to make him fucking
pay for it. Yeah, because the video's not that great,
so we gotta do another video.
That's why I gave it away. It's just, no,
pop! It's gonna pop!
Because Brittany's, your fiancé's dad
is just a fucking noble guy, and he didn't say anything
funny. Yeah, that's true. He was just technical
about it. You only got funny at the end.
Yeah, well, yeah, that's true.
But here's the deal.'s i'm gonna send out a
picture if we get to 400 as chris the teacher remind us of my remote dick we're gonna post
that but if we get to a thousand i will put your fucking broken deformed frank's and beans feet
in my mouth yeah we'll make a video of it yeah that's what's gonna happen one thousand one
thousand patrons we're at what are we at? Three something.
367, I believe.
367.
And we got a few more joined, which we'll read your names at the end of the podcast.
That's what we do.
If you join our Patreon, patreon.com slash Bay Ridge Boys, we read out your name aloud
on this podcast at the end of every podcast.
And if we get to 5,000, we will sacrifice James.
Yes.
Burn him at the stake for being a fucking Nazi.
I think I'm a witch.
Yes.
I think you're a Nazi.
I'd be a good witch.
You should burn me.
Do you wear the sweatshirt I bought you, Bubba?
The Vegas Night sweatshirt?
I sleep in it, and I sleep with peace.
Now, you banged out a girl who had fumes last night.
Maybe.
It's what it is.
It happens, baby.
Yeah.
You know?
You can't win them all.
It's the fucking price of doing business.
Cost of doing business.
Cost of doing business. It happens, baby. Yeah, what are you going to do? It's what it is. You gloved up, right? So can't win them all. It's the fucking price of doing business. Cost of doing business.
Yeah, what are you gonna do?
You gloved up, right? So you're good to go.
Oh, baby, I gloved up my glove. Yeah.
I was gonna say, you double bag it sometimes, right?
I learned the hard way, Bubba.
You can't do it. What do you mean?
Sometimes you get a little bit, baby.
You got bit? No, but sometimes things get a little weird.
I'm such a hypochondriac.
Like, if I get a rash within, like, a month of raw dog and any girl,
like, even if it's, like, on my arm, I'm convinced I got something.
So I just stopped raw dog.
But I think if you double bag it, the friction,
I heard that the friction gets higher,
and you have a better chance of breaking through.
Is that true?
Break on through to the other side, baby.
Now, can you only use magnums?
What do you use?
Because you got a fucking sweet piece.
I use the purple Trojans.
Your dick looks like a sweet potato.
This is hilarious.
People don't even know how you even know.
Like, no one's actually seen my penis here.
Yeah.
They only see it through underwear.
That's all we need to see it through.
Well, there was a period.
You know what would be funny?
A comedian sex tape.
Yeah.
It would just be so neurotic.
They'd be like, can you just turn the lights off? You'd be like, I'm A comedian sex tape. Yeah. It would just be so neurotic. They'd be like, can you just turn the lights off?
He'd be like, I'm having trouble getting wood.
Yeah.
There was a whole time where James could not.
He was having problems with his glue.
He thought he was gay.
He thought he was gay, but then he couldn't get the glue out of his gun.
What do you mean?
He just couldn't bust.
Are you serious?
For how long, dog?
Psychologically, he just couldn't get it out.
How long did that last?
I don't know, about 36 years.
No, seriously, how long could you not?
I think I-
Even when you were stroking him, you couldn't get the glow out of it?
Let me just say this.
He's a very strong kid.
He's got a strong will, and he's one of the strongest people I know.
I sense a butt coming.
But your mom being a toot and a drug addict is going to leave a couple of marks.
You're not going to get away unscathed.
Yeah, it's going to be a hole.
But we all got holes. One of the things that comes with that is a little obsessiveness. Yeah. You're not going to get away unscathed. Yeah, it's going to be a hole. I mean, it's going to, but we all got holes.
One of the things
that comes with that
is a little obsessiveness.
Of course, OCD, yeah.
So he's got a little OCD,
so he started having the thought,
and then the thought
becomes obsessive,
and then the glue
just doesn't come out.
Dog is so smart.
Dog is so smart
with certain things,
he's almost autistic.
Yeah, he is.
It's like,
he's on the spectrum of,
I mean, the fact that you can,
just real,
I know you have to go.
I know you have to go, I know you have to go.
But just real quick, just for the next minute,
can you just tell us the Super Bowl winning quarterback since 1973?
Go.
Since 73?
Yeah.
I can't anymore.
83.
Bebas, come on.
83.
That was Jim Plunkett.
87.
87 was Doug Williams.
92.
92 was Troy Aikman.
Wow. 99. 99 was Troy Aikman. Wow.
99.
99 was Kurt Warner.
Holy shit.
2008.
That gets a little hairy.
Oh, Eli Manning.
Come on, Bubba's.
2013.
Shit.
I struggle more with the recents because I just forget.
Let's see.
Because that year you were struggling with your glue gun.
I was running the bathroom seeing if I could get lift to gay guys to see if I was a homosexual.
UNLV alum right here.
You're running rebels, baby.
Alum, you graduated.
Yeah, I'm one of eight.
I like to call it
the Harvard of the desert.
Who won WrestleMania in 1991?
Like the whole WrestleMania.
I don't know.
The main event?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Main event of 91
was Hulk Hogan versus Sgt. Slaughter.
Yeah, I mean, that's Franks and Beans right here.
We're talking Franks and Beans.
Yeah, it's just Franks and Beans.
Because that's a nice jacket.
You like this jacket?
I do.
Yeah, I didn't pay for it.
Where'd you get it from?
Comedy Central.
Comedy Central.
Can I ask a question?
Yes.
The fact that you ask a question and then in the middle of it go to his jacket, is that a little Franks and Beans?
Well, it's a little hyenas because the second word is just we're hyenas
and we have no plan.
We just go.
Did you see that picture on the Instagram that I posted of a hyena
on a golf course in Africa?
Yeah.
How fucking funny is that?
Ten out of ten.
Yeah.
Imagine you're just playing golf and there's just a hyena on hole 17.
Yeah.
I mean, it is what it is.
It's what it is because.
Yeah.
I think we're losing the dog, right?
No, come on
We're just about to talk about Jonestown
I know but I'm sorry
This is the greatest show ever
Show the people your glue gun
Yeah let's do it right now
That's how I say goodbye
Yeah
Thanks for having me guys
Of course
What's up tonight
Are you gonna meet us tonight
Yeah well you guys are gonna
Go back to Bay Ridge
I'm with the family
You guys gotta hang out with the family
Just come back to the city
We're gonna meet the family
And be like
Hey I heard that your grandma Used to greet you guys with the hail.
Because how about you were raised by a woman who had actually hailed Hitler before.
Yeah.
For real.
In Germany.
Well, she was a Nazi.
She had to.
She was a Nazi youth.
She was a Hitler youth.
Because that was the Boy Scout.
But I'm just saying she did do this.
But she still had to do that as part of the Hill of Youth.
It is what it is.
It's just the truth.
It's the truth, man.
That's fucking wild.
Now, we're also going to post a picture of you also.
I just want to let everyone know we're going to post a picture of you on the Instagram,
and we're going to do a poll if you're Mexican or Jewish.
We're going to see what people think off one look.
If that's all right with you, Bubba.
We're going to take a picture of you right now.
And we have to do an assessment.
No, you look fucking great right now. This cost me a job. You do look good. It'll never cost you, Bubba. We're going to take a picture of you right now. And we have to do air session.
No, you look fucking great right now.
This cost me a job.
You do look good.
It'll never cost you a job.
It'll never cost you a job.
I mean, it is what it is.
Sometimes it is what it is.
There it is.
We got the best pick.
We got a good pick of you.
Look at that.
Yeah.
And look at the dog.
Yeah.
And the dog has no butt.
Yeah, the dog.
If I have no butt, the dog.
I got told I have a booty.
Nah, Bubba,
you got no butt.
I was getting a massage
and this girl
went to a workout.
She grabbed a booty.
You can't even keep
your pants up
because your butts...
You have an old man's butt.
We've seen your ass
crack a bunch
and I don't mind it,
but we've seen it a lot
and I can verify
you got no butt.
Sometimes my booty hole
likes to say hello
to everybody.
That's what it is.
Who do you think is hairier?
Jihadi with a body
or fucking glue gun?
Captain Glue Gun.
Maybe Glue Gun.
I don't know, but Dog's older.
So Jihadi with a body will be hairier than Glue Gun at some point.
Well, you don't keep progressing in hair.
Oh, you don't?
I don't know.
If he's 23, that's probably the prime of your hairdo.
Yeah.
It's not like you're going to peak at 31 of hair.
It's not like... Yeah, that's true, too.
It's not like a baseball pitcher.
23, that's young for a Muslim, right?
Yeah.
You wait until 63, and then you're going to marry a 13-year-old, correct?
How does it work?
A couple.
Nice.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
Now, Doc, what religion are you?
Real quick before we go.
What would you say you are? Hey, Bert. I was raised Catholic. You were raised Catholic. But I'm an agnostic, I guess I would is. Beautiful. Now, dog, what religion are you? Real quick before we go. What would you say you are?
Hey, Bert.
I was raised Catholic.
You were raised Catholic.
But I'm an agnostic, I guess I would say.
That's a fashionable term.
Fair enough, Bubba.
You going to go on a cruise now?
Yeah, I got to meet with my aunts.
It's like one of those dinner cruise kind of things?
No dinner.
We're just going to have cocktails, see everything, and then I think we'll get you some pizza
and drinks later.
Where are you getting the boat?
23rd Street?
On like 43rd.
Oh, okay.
It's going to be nice.
Buddy, it's got to be classic.
Uncle Bill?
No, not Uncle Bill.
We don't talk to him no more.
Oh, fuck him.
Yeah.
What happened to Uncle William?
He's got problems, bro.
Is he from Rochester?
You got family in Rochester.
Yeah, he was born, I think, in Reno.
I know a girl in Rochester
who's got the biggest tits
you've ever seen in your life.
Get out of here.
Yes.
And you've seen a lot of tits.
Yeah, she's got big.
They stand out from all
big bombs.
Rochester's known for
pancake boobies.
Uh-oh. Here we go.
There it is.
26.53. Guess that part.
Good to see you, dog.
Good to see you, dog.
Good to see you. We're going to have breakfast tomorrow or what? Come on, hit, okay. Good to see you, dog. Good to see you, dog. Love, as always, my best.
Good to see you.
We're going to have breakfast tomorrow or what?
I'll see you.
Come on, hit me up.
We'll go to the diner.
I'd love to fucking buy you a...
I'd love to take you to Tim Hortons.
You ever go to Tim Hortons?
It's in...
It's Canadian.
There's one in Staten Island.
There's one in Staten Island?
Yeah, right on the fucking Staten Island, cuz.
That's appropriate,
because Staten Island...
Hey, Mark.
For New Yorkers,
Staten Island, take care, dog. See you later, baby. Staten Island, cuz. That's appropriate, because Staten Island... Hey, Mark. For New Yorkers, Staten Island, take care, dog.
See you later, baby.
Staten Island is kind of like another country.
What a fucking gem of a human being the dog is.
The dog's one of those guys, like you've said multiple times, Giannis,
if somebody dies, he'll be sad for the rest of his life.
He'll come to your funeral, and he'll be sad.
He'll visit your grave.
He's got a pure heart.
Pure.
He's a pure heart.
He's golden.
He's a good... He's got a pure heart. He. He's a pure heart. He's golden. He's a good, he's just a good kid.
What happened?
My hand is freezing for some reason.
What do you mean?
I don't know.
It's like a cramp.
You got no blood flow going to your hand?
Yeah.
It's just what it is because it's starting to get old.
Yeah.
You're getting nervous again.
Your anxiety is starting to get the best of you again.
Yeah.
It's just what it is. What do you mean
your hand? So explain to me what's going on. It's just getting
heavy. It's like, look what's happening.
What do you mean? What is that? What do you mean
it's getting heavy? I don't know. It's getting numb
something. Nothing's happening.
Can you go like this? Wiggle your fingers.
Yeah, look at that. You're good.
You're good. Wiggle your fingers.
I don't know. Do I look jacked
though? You do look jacked
I'm gonna take a fucking piss
I would say pause the podcast
But I know that it will not be paused
Yeah
Well
We gotta talk about Jim Jones this week
Which by the way
Jim Jones
Is a fucking psychopath
Not a sociopath
A psychopath
I'd say
From fucking Indiana.
There we go.
See, now that's a tough one.
If you guys can guess that one, I'll give you guys, it'll be great.
Guess that fart that was at 2848 of the podcast.
Yeah.
You're the one who told me to watch this because I knew about Jim Jones and I did use to have sex with a girl who was from Guyana and she was in peace.
So that's how I know about Jonestown
Guyana's the only country in South America
Where they speak English, I believe
Wild
Only one where they
English is the main language
Why is that?
Does anybody know why that is?
It's for another episode
Who knows?
So that means the answer was
We don't know
We don't know
We don't know
Whenever it's for another episode
That's just a
That's just a nice way of saying we have no idea.
He's one of those guys.
He was a cult leader.
But it always starts off small.
It always starts off like, no, just listen to me do this.
He was a complete fucking power obsessed man.
Like he needed to have the power.
Well, he's definitely a psychopath.
Let's talk about his childhood.
He used to have funerals for roadkill.
Wild.
And he also used to torture animals.
Did he torture animals or he just had funerals for them?
No, he'd also torture a few.
Okay, so that's a psychopath trait.
That's just what they do.
He embodied, he used to make believe he was Hitler during World War II in Indiana, which is a fucking wild thing to do.
Because people from Indiana, Indiana is just, there's a lot of wild people
that come out of Indiana.
Indianapolis,
well, it's the birthplace
of the Ku Klux Klan.
Yeah.
Indianapolis is one of those cities
that like, you know,
you have to be polite about it
and be like, oh, I like that city,
but it's like nothing happens there.
Yeah.
It's kind of just brutes and goats.
And if anyone's from Indianapolis,
I know I've been in your city
a few times.
You know, I'm happy
that it's part of the United States, but it's just
the most brutal big city I've ever been to
in the United States. Really?
I can't think of... It's actually a city where
I just don't want to go back. Really?
I don't have a good time doing comedy there.
I don't have a good time being there ever.
Wow. I do not like it at all.
It doesn't sound like you're going to be invited
back to... That's one of the best clubs.
Which one?
Packers?
In Indianapolis.
No, that's not, that's Minneapolis.
Minneapolis is Acme, that's different.
Oh, so you just hate fucking Indiana.
I did not have a good time there at all.
They were relatively racist.
It was a very boring, spread out city.
It's just one of those like secondary cities that people try to justify. I'm like, oh, this city's better than New York. It's like the answer's no. No. It's just one of those like secondary cities that people try to justify
and like,
oh,
this city's better than New York.
It's like the answer's no.
It's just a clear no.
But I,
and anybody who's listening
from Indianapolis,
I appreciate your,
your,
you know,
loyalty,
but Jim Jones,
yeah,
he was from Indiana
and it's just a lot
of fucking weirdos
come out of Indiana
because it's just
one of those states.
It's so landlocked.
You're so in the middle.
You're so far from being connected to the rest of the world.
You're not near any water.
So landlocked in the middle.
You just like, you feel claustrophobic in there.
Yeah.
It's kind of South, but also kind of Midwest.
There's a little bit of both.
Yeah.
And.
31, 4040 Jim Jones
I don't know what rock you've been living under
But everyone probably knows Jim Jones
Well some of the kids
Some of our
We're not talking about the rapper Jim Jones
Yeah I was gonna say it depends
Because some of our patrons
Patreon members
And just people listening to the free one
May just think it's the rapper Jim Jones
Yeah no we're talking about the cult leader Jim Jones.
Yes.
Now, this kid, he started in Indiana.
What was it called?
The People's Temple.
The People's Temple.
People's Temple.
So he started in Indiana.
He was born in Crete, Indiana.
Wow.
What a connection to you.
The name of the island that my mother's from.
Crete.
Crete.
And then he moved to, how about this? Connection to you. The name of the island that my mother's from. Crete. Crete. And then he moved to, how about this?
Connection to you.
Lynn, Indiana.
Yeah.
How wild is that?
Fucking wild.
He grew up in Lynn, Indiana.
My mom's name is Lynn.
Why is there a Crete, Indiana and a Lynn, Indiana?
For our podcast.
That's why.
That's what it is.
It was to bring us together.
And cuz, make no mistake, I think what it's trying to say is we need to fucking resurrect
the people's temple.
Well, we got to explain why Lynn is connected to you.
Because that's my mother's name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's my mother.
She saved my life.
And Lynn, as we know, likes to have a few brews.
And make no mistake, if you knock on Lynn's door, she will offer you a brew and an Entenmann's
cake.
It's what it is.
It's just what it is.
It's just what it is when you're a white working class lady from Queens, New York.
Yeah.
She respects you as long as you're not on welfare.
Yeah.
It's just what it is.
Her cash dollars have to pay for people being lazy.
So Jim Jones, you know, he was always obsessed with religion. He was obsessed as a young kid with these charismatic leaders, Stalin, Hitler.
He studied them.
Got great grades.
Graduated early with honors.
Yep.
Ended up going to, he went to graduate from high school.
And then I think he went to Butler for a little bit.
Make no mistake.
You can't be a leader, or good and join and start a cult
and do things like that if you're not a very intelligent human being there is it's just do
you use your smarts for good or evil yeah well he's a psychopath but he's a smart psychopaths
usually are his iq i'm sure was above average yeah i mean he graduated with honors easily
not racist either that's the thing.
Not racist at all.
That's what I wanted to talk about.
Yeah.
I mean, even like James told me, his grandmother said, you know, that Hitler at the beginning did a lot of good things.
Right.
Which he probably did.
But that almost seems part of the plan for psychopaths.
Absolutely.
That's how they kind of win people over.
They reel you in.
They reel you in. So it's like it's perfunctory. It's not. That's how they kind of win people over. They reel you in. They reel you in so it's like
it's perfunctory. It's not
it's not. If you say
perfunctory again I'm going to punch you in the face.
Yeah. You've just had enough of me
haven't you? Yeah. Yeah you just had enough.
Perfunctory. Cause make no mistake your mom
just likes that you hang out with me cause
I don't have a shaved part in my head.
That's what it is. That's all she wants for her son.
All she ever wanted was at least one friend to have a four-year degree, not an associate.
And you're my only friend that has that.
And Lukasz.
Lukasz is an ER doctor.
Yeah, because, I mean, we'll do what we can.
I'll try my best for Lynn to try to make you culture.
I'll take you to a museum or whatever.
But at the end of the day, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
So Jim Jones started preaching, moved tickets.
Sold a lot of tickets.
Kid could speak.
These guys always sell tickets.
Yeah, I mean, if you don't have the charisma to speak, you're not going to be able to become a cult leader or the leader of a country.
A lot of it, you know what I've realized by doing all this research for Jonestown?
Is like, charisma is most of it.
The world is mostly, like Shakespeare said, the world's a stage.
Yes.
And all these people, even like you were talking about, you see newscasters, things like that.
It's all a show.
Absolutely.
Most of this world is a show.
Absolutely.
And people are putting on a performance.
It's not really who they are.
They're doing it for self-aggrandizement, to be recognized, to move tickets, to give you false hope.
He's selling hope.
You know what I mean?
He's selling hope to you, but it's for him to get bigger.
That's why he moved to San Francisco.
He went to California.
He left Indiana because Indiana wasn't big enough for him.
He wanted recognition.
Like you said earlier today when we were walking, very few people have integrity.
It's very, very small percentage of people have true integrity.
True integrity is, I mean, I think just—
We probably don't have it.
No, I just think very few people have integrity.
Very few people are bribeable.
Right.
I mean, are not bribeable.
Are not bribeable.
Yeah, most people will just accept a bribe.
And a bribe, what I mean by a bribe is a bribe doesn't always come in like, hey, this is a bribe.
I mean, like people will just, will offer you money in a salary or whatever, and you'll
just take it.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
You know, it's just what it is.
It's just what it is.
Like if you're a CEO of a company, it's like, and people like, hey man, you got to pay workers
more.
He's like, hey, yeah, I'll give'll give you You know people are starting to listen to you
How about I make you one of my guys
And I'll pay you
That guy's gonna shut up
It's just what it is
He's just gonna take the dough
It's what it is
And that's what these cult leaders
Are so good at
They're so good at
And with Jim Jones
You notice
He was very good
At just sort of
Testing people's loyalty to him.
Yeah.
Finding out who was going to be the most loyal.
Tell him some fucking things that he did.
Oh, my God.
Well, first of all, so he got bigger and bigger.
Actually, when he was in San Francisco, too, met with a lot of, like, very important people.
Like, you know, he was.
He got invited to fucking President Jimmy Carter's inauguration.
Yeah.
So he was.
Why can I not think of Carter?
I have early onset.
No, a lot of people just overlook Carter, who ended up as.
People say he was a brutes, magoots press.
Yeah, they do.
A lot of that was because of the Iran hostage situation.
Yeah, all those guys got killed in the Olympics.
Yeah, that was rough for him.
What was in the Olympics?
Wasn't it the Olympics?
Was that the Olympics, Dan Carter?
I thought it was during the Olympics.
I could be wrong.
I'm probably wrong.
I have to pee, so you're just going to have to talk to Zach for a second.
Should we pause it?
No, well, yes, but it's not going to happen.
It's just I have chlamydia.
That's why.
That's what it is.
So Jim Jones, fucking wild.
He ended up, a guy with integrity ended up dying at the end.
Congressman Leo Ryan, which is wild.
But before we get there, we'll skip forward.
Jim Jones ends up in Guyana With about a thousand followers
They do the whole Bhagwan thing
Wild Wild Country documentary
We talked about it
Did we do an episode about Wild Wild Country?
We did, right?
I don't think we've done a whole episode
But we talked about it
Yeah
So they form a fucking
You know
Same shit
Cult
Living off the land
They form their own Jonestown
It's called Jonestown
Just like the Bogwan, whatever that shit was called
I can't remember
And they're all living off the land
And praying, and of course
There's a dark
Underbelly to the whole thing
Where he's watching everybody
You know
He's got snitches everywhere
Controlling people
Beating them up, abuses
He separates
All the families
I think there's about 300 children living down there too
He separates all families
So he has other people
Raise other people's kids
He doesn't want the actual
Mothers and fathers fathers raising their actual kids.
And he says, there's no more mothers and fathers.
I'm your father and my wife is your mother.
He had a wife who he cheated on all the time.
He used to fuck all the girls.
Of course, these cults, the guys are always just fucking running through the puss.
Saying like, this is good.
This is what Jesus would want.
And he was a full-blown
communist so that's what he started saying socialism socialism communism so everyone was
just living off the land and sharing everything and working and everyone called him father and
his wife mother and nobody was raising their own kids because he believed jim jones said that he
believed that the most disgusting thing was family was that you are connected to your family just because you're born.
So that was all a ploy, though.
So he could fucking he wanted to be the father.
Yeah.
I mean, this guy was such a psychopath and so manipulative.
He was gross.
Yeah.
And it just made me realize how stupid people are.
Absolutely.
Fucking stupid.
Stupid.
He.
Well, stupid.
Stupid.
Stupid.
He – Well, stupid and they just – it just makes how fragile like the human psyche is because it wants – most people just want to be told what to do.
Did you talk about your point about laziness?
Not yet, no.
That's fucking a good point because you had a lot of time to think this weekend.
I did have a lot of time to think.
Yeah. time to think. What I've realized when you look at these cults and things is
people
the reason why people easily
fall prey to these things
is so often
because
people deep down
have
a need for things
to be easy. Absolutely.
Which isn't a bad thing necessarily
because we talked about that.
The reason our species has evolved
is because of laziness in a way.
Certain people are working very hard to do things
and then some lazy guy who's smart
comes along and says,
let me figure out a way to make this easier
so we don't have to work as much.
All inventions are about convenience.
Working less, making it more convenient, more efficient.
And the people who do that are usually smart, lazy people.
People who don't want to work.
People like, let me think outside the box
and figure out a way to make this easier for everybody.
Right.
So there is something deeply rooted in our brain
where we're trying to figure out an easy way, an easier way to do things.
That's a good point.
So I'm saying it has an evolutionary purpose.
So I think we all have that in us, but we don't have the big brains to go with that.
So I think the downside, the bag ass, the dark side of that, if you will, is that we're all looking for an easy way.
We're all susceptible to someone going, hey, I figured it out.
Follow me and things will be easier.
I figured it out.
There'll be no pain.
I'll take care of you.
Here's the answers.
Right.
And so people just get attracted to that because of that deep-rooted evolutionary thing of, hey, here's an easier way.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's the same reason why people gamble.
It's like nobody wants to work for the money.
Right.
That's what gambling appeals to is that laziness in us where it's like, you know, this money is one.
I didn't have to work for it.
There's a thrill in that.
There's a high in that.
Right, right.
So I think that's the reason why people are attracted to cult leaders.
Laziness.
Laziness. Laziness, but there is also a degree, I think, if you scanned most of the people at Jonestown,
certainly some of them were smart.
I would think that majority of their IQ would be lower and majority of them would not have been well off.
I would think that most of those people drank that kool-aid and killed
themselves had a below average iq or close to a below average iq i don't know if that's the fact
it's just a guess or probably average because a lot of people left that cult and those people were
you know a little bit smarter i felt like because they noticed quickly now granted some people just
couldn't leave and they maybe they felt trapped but just to be that impressionable usually when you're that impressionable it
correlates with some degree of a lower i fucking stupid stupid yeah or just average iq yeah and you
just manipulated and scared a little bit as you get deeper into it yeah it's not going to work
on everybody i think most people were like jim jones you're a kook but
you know what he did is on just a smaller scale it's just a microcosm of what people would would
you know dictators do with states yeah so those all those people aren't stupid because make no
mistake yeah make no mistake we can see it now as like an easy cult and you know and jim jones was
on drugs and stuff like that but if you like go back in history, that's what people thought Jesus was.
They thought he was like a Jim Jones guy and that's why they killed him
because the people of the time at that time thought this guy's a cult leader.
That's why he was crucified.
Not to digress too much, but why don't you tell the people about what you read about?
What?
And Lynn, I apologize in advance.
What did you read?
What you found out about Christianity.
What did I find out?
That it was a story made up to control the people.
That was a story that I read an article that Christianity was a story that was made up to control black people.
Where did you read that?
That's what I read on Facebook. are you sure that this wasn't brightburg
no way they would be for it i mean it was one of the funny i mean the the depths that people
will go to i mean when i was reading that article i thought you said you read something that goes
back even further it was the you sent me an article yeah about the jews and how the jews were at the time uh you know people who were
constantly revolting against the romans yes so in order to control that the romans created
christianity they created it yeah they're all as just a thing to like corral certain jews and they
did it and they also did it to control African-Americans, not African-Americans
to control Africans because they were starting
to rise up. In
Rome? In Rome and like
Where were the Africans in Rome?
Oh, in North Africa?
Yeah, we'll have to do a separate episode
Whenever we say we have to do a separate episode, it's like
we don't know what we're talking about
But it's funny to speculate. And we don't even know
what we're talking about when we research for the thing we're talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I was, make no mistake, make no mistake, I was trying to watch the Jim Jones documentary to get fodder for the podcast.
And Giannis came over and just talked about nothing.
And I couldn't concentrate.
Nothing.
And I couldn't concentrate.
Because Giannis just had too much coffee from the Koreans up the street and was just pacing on and off my beanbags around my kitchen counter, which is cute, with a sweatshirt that was unzipped with no shirt underneath.
And it was gross.
It is what it is.
Yeah, I just basically threw that sweatshirt on to just go get coughed. And I threw on boots.
Because?
Rain boots. Rainboots.
With windbreakers.
Because this morning, I looked like a person who was going insane with the outfit that
I had on.
Yeah.
I had rainboots on with workout pants, a zip-up sweatshirt with no shirt underneath, and then
a nice long peacoat.
Yeah.
You're just a fucking good hang.
It's what it is.
It's what it is.
Yeah.
So the People's temple got huge they ended
up moving to guyana fucking jim jones was a wild kid yeah he faked his own death which is wild he
used blanks pretend like he was shot had fake blood and then told the people he healed himself
and they fucking believe wild so you're right they're fucking stupid stupid just like a woman
who claimed that she broke her leg and then he broke the cast off and she ran around the church and the people went fucking nuts.
The woman never broke her leg.
No.
Well, what he did was they – well, this is how maniacal and psychopathic.
And manipulative.
And manipulative Jim Jones was and how smart.
And before we go any further, I just want to let the podcast know and say it out loud to the matriarchy and if you're not part of the matriarchy go to patreon.com slash favorites boys and join the matriarchy
is we all know we all know zach jada with body myself and all of our glorious members of the
matriarchy know that you have jim jones inside of you and you can if you're not if i wasn't in
your life and if the matriarchy wasn't your life to stop it we know for a fact
for a fact you would at some point send out a mass email to the patron and tell us to join
yannis town in greece and we and you would be giving out little things of olive oil and saying
just drink this and your life will be complete and we just we just want we're here to let you
know that we won't do it as long as I'm alive.
Yeah.
But I don't have it in me.
I'm not a bad kid.
But you want to control.
No.
You want to be in control.
I do like being in control.
Right.
Right.
You wouldn't make no mistake,
you would have a few members who would join regardless.
Andrew Agos, Chris the Teacher, Jen Bekakis,
Rafa Duka, these guys would join
and jump off the cliff with you.
Yeah. The blacks would cliff with you. Yeah.
The blacks would not follow you.
It just wouldn't happen.
Black members of the main truck, they would not follow you.
They would say, nah, this motherfucker crazy.
Well, if you look at Jonestown, a lot of them did.
A lot of them blacks.
Because make no mistake, Jim Jones started off saying a lot of great things.
He was open to diversity.
About equality. Yeah. I mean, he had a whole rainbow. He was open to diversity. About equality.
Yeah.
I mean, he had a whole rainbow.
He called it, what was it, Rainbow Family?
Yeah, the Rainbow Family.
So he adopted a bunch of Korean kids.
Yeah, every member of his family was a different race.
Yeah.
But the white kid, the white guy was the one who said he knew from an early age and it
was all for show.
He says just mostly for show.
Everything Jim Jones did was for show.
For show.
He wanted power.
He was actually one of the most power hungry people that ever lived yeah he almost it almost well i don't know about that
that's a that's a big statement crazy yeah you went for it though yeah chrissy fucking go yeah
sometimes i'm like like i'm thinking about the next thing i'm gonna say and then i i have to
stop and go like wait a second yeah that's. That's a wild statement. Chrissy just said something wild.
Chrissy just said something fucking wild.
Yeah, I want some salmon today.
You do, right?
You fucking Jew.
Yeah.
Don't say that in front of Mad Dog.
No, yeah.
Jews love salmon.
Gotta love fish.
You gotta have a little salmon, though.
James Mad Dog Madden said he won't eat fish on Mondays because it's bad fish from the weekend.
Is that what? He won't eat fish on Mondays Because it's bad fish from the weekend He won't eat fish on Mondays
He needs to just eat a little more protein
He looks like he's recovering
He won't eat fish on Mondays
He needs to stay away from the Mondays
If you know what I mean
A lot of black people
Were in Jonestown
And because
You gotta give Jim Jones Even though it was all a ploy to win over those people, which is what it was.
He didn't really care.
All he cared about is self-aggrandizement and himself.
But the message was a good message.
And he actually was like very brave about stuff and went out of his way to support black people and racial harmony and justice and equality.
But in retrospect, they say a lot of the hate crimes that he reported that he dealt with,
they suspect he made those up on his own.
I can imagine.
It's like Rachel Dolezal did that.
Do you think she's a psychopath?
She might be.
Wait, what did Rachel?
I know who she is.
She said she got some hate mail, but it's pretty clear.
I mean, it's definite.
She mailed it to herself.
Because the way they researched it is she was the only person who had to keep that P.O. box.
And it didn't go through the mail system, that mail.
She just mailed it to herself.
So she made up these hate crimes.
Another thing is Sean King, which I'm fascinated by that kid.
Because he does a lot of good work, but he's a white fucking kid.
Yeah.
I mean, the kid is white.
He's got a white mother.
He's got white siblings.
His birth certificate, his father was white.
Yes.
But he does a lot of good stuff.
Was his mother black?
No, his mother's white.
White?
His mother's white.
And when you look at childhood pictures of him, he's white.
But he's still doing a great thing, so it's like whatever.
He does some good, great work. Right, and when you look at childhood pictures of him, he's white. But he's still doing a great thing, so it's like whatever.
He does some good, great work.
But then also there's this hate crime that he says happened to him.
And that's why I wonder.
I'm like, is this kid a psychopath?
Because he says this huge hate crime happened to him, but that's not what was reported.
And the police didn't report that.
It's not what was happening. Supposedly the fight happened because it was black kids who beat him up because he was a white kid dating a black girl.
So it was the opposite of what he claimed.
And then he had this picture on his Facebook page where he was wearing this neck brace and he was all beat up. And the implication was he had it up there because it was like proof that he went through this hate crime where he all beat up and the implication was he had it up
there because it was like proof that he
went through this hate crime
where he was beat up and everything but it was really
from a fucking automobile accident
yeah
just people who do anything for attention
people just believed it like people
nobody really looked into it now he's removed that
but I remember when he had that up there
and his backdrop is like one of the pictures
him with the neck brace on it's like why when he had that up there in his backdrop. It's like one of the pictures, like him with the neck brace on.
It's like, why would you have that up there from a car accident?
Right.
He had it up there because he wanted people to associate hate crime with this is what happened to me.
So he's a wild kid.
People are fucking wild.
And they're often very successful in manipulating people.
To a point.
It usually does end bad, though.
It usually does end bad if your intentions are malice.
You're usually going to die bad.
You think so?
Yeah.
I mean, look at everybody.
I mean, everybody goes to, I mean.
You're a smart kid, especially with medical stuff, but you speak wrong a lot.
Yeah.
If you're malicious is what you mean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, if your intent is malice.
Last episode you said it was preemptive too episode you said it was preemptive to.
You said it was preemptive to and I was like, you said it was preemptive to the Cold War.
Well, see.
You just misspeak a lot.
I know.
And I'm trying, Lynn.
I'm trying.
Well, you know what it is?
Here's the thing.
Sometimes I have the wrong words, but at the core, I know what I'm talking about.
You.
Just fucking go.
You use a lot of articulate words, but at the core, most times have no fucking clue what you're talking about You Just fucking go You use a lot of Articulate words But at the core
Most times have no
Fucking clue
What you're talking about
I'm fucking stupid
Stupid
But you just are so
You fool people
With the vocabulary
Because I'm a dictator
Yes
And that's why we
Fucking
I know that
If you had the chance
You would create
Yonastown
Pop
Poppisfilm
Because
I
I just have too good
Of a heart for that.
You're a great kid.
Yeah.
You're a great kid.
But if something traumatic happened to me that cut off my emotions, yeah, I'm not interested in it.
You said today that you don't care if you die in five years of stomach cancer.
Well, yeah.
I mean, you just have to.
I'm standing by it.
Do you know how much fucking motivation it's got to take and how much energy?
I just don't care.
To move to Guyana.
You know how fucking retarded that is?
160 miles away from Georgetown,
their capital. I mean, who has to love
control that much that you want to
move all the way to another country
and just control 900 people?
I'm not motivated to do it. I mean, I just
don't have the motivation. I just don't fucking
care. You got to give credit what credit's due.
A lot of these kids, you got to respect their work ethic.
Absolutely.
I mean, supposedly Jim Jones had to work so hard he had to take amphetamines.
He took amphetamines because his schedule was from like 7 in the morning to like 2.
And then to come down, he would have to take a tranquilizer to sleep a couple hours.
And he told all his followers because he works 24 hours a day for them.
Just like Kim Jong-un tells the North Koreans he doesn't poop.
Just people going fucking nuts.
Kim Jong-un told North Korea that he doesn't poop.
Yeah, and a lot of people probably believe it.
People are stupid.
People are fucking stupid.
Jim Jones told his followers that he was God.
Yeah.
And that he healed himself and he was doing all these things.
Here's why I know I'm definitely stupid.
But here's why I know where I'm not as stupid as others because I can admit that I'm very stupid and don't know most things.
Yeah.
So I think if you can admit to yourself that you don't know most things, you'll be able to see the bullshit.
Well, here's the true sign of the psychopath, I think.
Okay.
Jim Jones had this.
Yeah.
I mean, like I said, laugh tells a lot.
When a person laughs, how they laugh, why they laugh.
But what's deeper than the laugh, I think, is if somebody can make fun of themselves.
Psychopaths don't deal with that well.
They don't deal with that well.
Interesting.
Is that true?
Is that just – are you making that – are you just – is that your conclusion?
No, that's – I'm not making that up.
That's science.
It's what it is.
Science proven.
Yeah.
If you talk to the psychiatrists, the psychologists who specialize in that.
Yeah, they rationalize everything.
It's never their fault.
Okay.
That's a big trait to being a psychopath is that they always blame someone else.
They never say I'm sorry. They never say I'm sorry. They never admit it's my fault or whatever unless it's a big trait to being a psychopath is that they always blame someone else. They never say I'm sorry.
They never say I'm sorry.
They never admit it's my fault or whatever unless it's a ploy.
But that's rare too because they're just defensive and they say, oh, well, he had it coming.
If he didn't, it's what it is.
So that's a huge sign.
When someone can make fun of themselves, laugh at themselves, it shows a humility that exposes someone's humanity.
Interesting.
So, yeah, you can't, like, you couldn't just make fun of Jim Jones.
Yeah, he would lose his fucking mind.
He would lose his fucking mind, you know, because it's all about power.
Power.
They don't have a sense of humor about themselves.
So, that's a big way to tell who you're dealing with.
Who you're dealing with.
Yeah, I mean, you could start Christy Town.
Again, not motivated to do it.
No, you're just not into it, yeah.
Yeah, I'm just not motivated.
I mean, you know, unless the push stops rolling in.
Well, Jim Jones was fucking all the girls that lived there.
Yeah, he fucked everybody.
That's one of the things that always goes with these kids.
They just fuck everybody.
You start a cult, everyone's getting fucked.
Yeah, and then it's always a different message, but it but it is always a thing it's like we're fucking you
because now jim jones so they live down there in jonestown and guyana and then things just got
pretty fucking wild and now it's chrissy's turn to talk because i'm gonna piss my pants yeah well
things well things got wild um when he decided first all, the first thing he did just to test his power is he had everyone drink wine.
And then after they drank the wine, he told them all it was poisoned.
And he said, you guys have an hour to live.
And what he wanted to do was just check his power, how many people are going to come up to him and try to kill him, how many people speak out against him.
So he was a fucking psycho.
How many people speak out against him?
So he was a fucking psycho and he was setting up for the main thing, which was eventually forgetting the exact day.
Eventually he just made everyone drink cyanide,
including himself cyanide poison mixed with Kool-Aid and everybody died.
And he also wound up killing a Senator who had come to like,
try to like look into what was going on.
Cause make no mistake. The U S government started to find out into what was going on because make no mistake the u.s
government started to find out about what was happening at jonestown and wanted to intervene
and this guy came senator ryan i think his name was leo ryan is that right i think yeah and he
he went to investigate what was happening in jonestown and uh jim jones just had his henchmen
shoot him in the fucking head
he just they just murdered him and then shortly thereafter they got the cyanide poison and they
killed everyone um so yeah jim jones is just one of those guys and again i would have had more
information but yannis came over when we were when i was trying to research the second part and just
started talking to me about fucking nonsense.
That's the thing with Giannis.
Is we all love him, but I got to deal with him every fucking day.
And at times just gets really hard.
Because he just fucking complains a lot about how shitty his life is.
When he's just a fucking straight white male in America.
And then he just also fucking complains and talks about nonsense.
And I have to fucking deal with his rants 24-7,
sometimes just not in the fucking mood.
Wild!
Yeah!
And I hope he hears this, and I know he will,
because he listens to every fucking second of this podcast
like a true cock.
Yeah!
So what did we leave off?
He's back.
What'd you tell him?
We just fucking, I just told him what a great guy you are.
And you told him, so you told him when he tested everybody by pretending it was poison?
I told him that.
I told him that, but then I didn't tell him.
But then I did, I told him about them drinking all the cyanide poison, but I didn't tell him about them killing the congressman.
Wow, you jumped way, you just, jumped to the end.
Because we're close, right?
Yeah, we're close.
We're at an hour and I can't take it anymore.
You're close.
Yeah, and we still have to read the Patreon members out and we still have to play Rafael DeLuca's song.
Oh, wow.
All right, so yeah, he killed a lot of people, Jim Jones.
What happened was a congressman came down.
Was it Leo Ryan?
Was that his name?
Leo Ryan, good kid.
Good kid.
We'll talk about him on the Patreon.
On the Patreon, we'll talk about that.
So this all led to a fucking, obviously,
the mass murder of 918 people.
Stupid people.
Stupid fucking people.
But at this point, they were surrounded by guards.
They wanted to get out.
Yeah, he forced everyone to kill themselves.
So it was a mass murder, a painful death, cyanide, 300 children.
He made the children go first.
So he made their parents watch their kids die.
Watch all their kids die.
I mean, the guy's a sadist and a psychopath.
Does cyanide kill you slowly?
Slowly.
It's brutal.
Brutal.
So they were in pain.
You suffocate slowly.
It's fucking brutal.
So that's why the piece of shit.
But he didn't even do it.
He killed him.
He shot himself, right?
Shot himself with a gun because he probably watched how much suffering everybody else was going through.
What a piece of shit.
Piece of fucking shit.
He's truly a piece of shit.
Piece of shit.
And we will talk about in the bonus episode.
And, of course, we have tons of bonus episodes.
If you haven't joined, for you to go binge on Patreon.com slash Bay Ridge Boys.
Join the matriarchy.
We depend on your support.
We're growing.
It's great.
the matriarchy we depend on your support we're growing it's great um we got to uh we gotta just keep growing so keep telling your friends and we will talk more in depth about um
what happened uh congressman leo ryan on the bonus episode but shit got wild fucking don't
drink the kool-aid that expression comes from um him the way really yeah don't drink the Kool-Aid. That expression comes
from him.
Really? Yeah, don't drink the Kool-Aid.
That's where it comes from. Interesting. Yeah, it comes from
Jim James. It wasn't actually
Kool-Aid. It was a cheaper version of Kool-Aid.
What was it called again? Cheap fuck.
Can you see the brand that he used?
He mixed the cyanide
and he would, he used it,
he had little needles and he would just squirt it in the mouth.
He would force the kids to open their mouths and he would squirt a little bit of the cyanide mixed with the fruit drink.
Yeah, it just says powdered fruit drink.
Yeah, but what was it called?
I don't know.
Yeah.
All right.
So anyway, that's where the expression don't drink the Kool-Aid comes from.
And here we are at the point of the podcast where we get to read out the newest members of the fucking matriarchy, the newest fucking members of Papa's Town.
And I am just excited that you guys did decide to drink the Kool-Aid and join our Patreon at patreon.com slash Bay Ridge Boys.
And as always, we're going to read these names out, and Giannis is going to guess your ethnicity.
First guy up or person, Cortez Eagle.
I mean, that's an easy one.
Cortez Eagle? Latino. He's a gun. Yeah, he's a gun.. I mean, that's an easy one. Cortez Eagle?
Latino.
He's a gun.
Yeah, he's a gun.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a gun.
Yeah, 357 Eagle.
That's what it is.
Andrew Lockhart.
Come on.
That's a good old boy from there.
How you, Andrew Lockhart.
Yeah.
I mean, that guy, he's from maybe Indiana.
Liam Snell.
Wow, we got an Irish kid.
Yeah.
I think in the lead we have Irish.
I think blacks might be in the lead.
Blacks and Irish are in the lead.
Yeah.
Now we got one.
This kid's just money.
This name just has money to attach to it.
Jack Grantham.
Jack Grantham sounds like a hero in a goddamn Ayn Rand novel.
Naval.
Here we go.
In an Ayn Rand novel.
Here we got one.
Yeah.
Nisan Hunt Moses. Nisan Hunt. We Naval. Here we go. An Ayn Rand novel. Here we got one. Yeah. Nisan Hunt Moses.
Nisan Hunt.
We got.
Nisan Hunt.
That's Chinese.
Moses.
No, he's, I think, from India.
Oh.
He has a picture of an Indian guy.
Well, we can't do that anymore because that apple has been taken from the Simpson.
You cannot talk like this anymore.
Carlin Dauphin. Carlin Dauphin.
Carlin Dauphin.
I'm going.
African American gentleman.
Nicholas Wilson.
White kid.
White.
Ryan Cronin.
Fucking.
It's so white it hurt my butt.
White.
White.
Daniel Goodwin.
Daniel Goodwin.
Ooh.
I'm going to go. Iwin I'm gonna go
I think I'm gonna go white kid
But he wants to be black
Here's a piece
Christy Beretta
She sounds like a fucking pig
But also she could be another gun
Beretta
I actually know who Christy Beretta is
She is a piece
How do you know her?
I just know her
You've looked through her gram photos.
Yeah.
Because you spent a lot of time looking at girls.
One name, David.
We know what David is.
Jew?
If it's one name, Black Kid.
Yeah, it's what it is.
Black Kids love one names.
Lily Yu.
Lily Yu?
That's a Chinese girl.
That is a Chinese girl.
Welcome.
Then we have.
I'm telling you, she will delete her pledge as soon as summer comes.
Yeah.
Because Chrissy gets a little wild.
Then we have Kevin Besch.
Black kid, right?
White kid.
White kid.
With a full beard.
Wow.
Cute.
And then last but not least, full name, Fumeless Liam Kerrigan, parentheses, Irish kid, make no mistake,
unimpressive piece.
Yeah.
That is our PPW pseudo penis of the week.
Wow.
Can you go back and read that Grisham kid's name again?
Because that fucking name is, that's a powerful, that's a name of a white kid who's going to
form a cult and do some damage on this planet.
Grisham?
Yes.
Jack Grantham?
Grantham, yeah.
Jack Grantham.
That kid's gonna do some harm.
It's what it is.
The drink that Jim Jones used, by the way,
is called Flavor Aid.
Flavor Aid.
That's what it is.
Fake Kool-Aid.
So can you imagine that?
Saved a couple bucks.
It's what it is.
So yeah.
So thank you to those people for joining our matriarchy. Saved a couple bucks. It's what it is. So yeah.
So thank you to those people for joining our matriarchy.
We really appreciate the matriarchy. It keeps growing.
Like we said, if we get to 1,000, I will put Chris's deformed feet in my fucking mouth.
And let's end this podcast with Rafael DeLuca's new brand new single, Weishan Xian.
This is my favorite.
Can we write out Weishan Xian?
Yes.
This is the best one. This is actually my favorite. Can we write out Weishan Xian? Yes. Because this is the best one.
This is actually my favorite.
Yeah.
And the video is fantastic.
Go check it out on our Instagram.
Thank you.
Can we debut
Rafael DeLuca's new song,
Weishan Xian?
W-E-I-Z-H-O-N-G-X-I-A-N.
We're going to have that
for future episodes.
Yeah.
Wait, joke, Jen.
What did you say?
Something fucking wild?
Yeah.
Weishan Xian. We got rid of a poo.
Now we got another million
South Asians to get rid of.
We need to win
immediately.
Way song.
Too many Chinese.
You're a racist.
Saying that they don't look alike.
Go Republican.
Build a wall.
Way song.
I'm kidding.
Fucking emotional ninja.
I can see you in the most.
Way song. Fucking emotional ninja. I can see you in a motion right here. Oui, son, si, et.
Yeah.
I'll jive for the job.
I just want to make sure Delilah's husband can swim.
Oui, son, si, et.
Oui, son, si, et.
Oui, son, si, et.
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