Hollywood Handbook - Gareth Reynolds, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

The Boys chat with GARETH REYNOLDS about staying on script. Check out his podcast co-hosted with Jake Johnson and produced by Chef Kevin called We’re Here to Help. Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnes. Like the show? Rate Hollywood Handbook 5-Stars on Apple PodcastsAdvertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

this is a head gum podcast when i say i'm like critical of like traditional religion because like that like obviously that the conceptions of god or whatever we're supposed to like you know white guy with a beard sits on a cloud whatever like this is what they want us to understand is like god yeah to me to me uh he would god has glasses well this is this is the point i was going to make which is that it it i think some people say well that's just this specific thing that has been sold to us this like white guy with a beard on some cloud and i go right it's actually not specific enough yes i think he's polish yeah i do not think he's white right you know i think that he is a polish man glasses yes yes he for sure has glasses he's

really smart he's huge and we're tiny so like he's looking at us all the time like he doesn't need glasses we're so tiny to him this is my intro right i just want to make gigantic he's like the biggest guy i'd love to hear your take on this he's bigger i think then you deal with this stuff he's like big questions right well this is this this is actually a good question for you because you do tackle things like this um but you wouldn't be able to tackle god he's huge who's the think of the big who do you think of as The biggest guy. I mean, I would say our, well, the biggest guy was 8'11". So I like to think of that guy. I think the tallest guy.

That's a little smaller than that, you know? I, not, no. As far as where I was raised, the tallest man is God. To God, that's a the tiniest inch worm oh that's huge oh my conception of god is that he's is that he's eight foot eight so if this guy's eight foot eleven god's going like that's not so tall it's just sort of a weird box to put god in i think i see i stand back to back well if you're gonna make him eight for his polish guy he's saying it in polish yeah no right yeah he's definitely yeah i think i see i stand back to back well if you're gonna make him eight for a polish guy

he's saying it in polish yeah no right yeah he's definitely yeah i and i don't disagree with the polish thing the glasses thing you take issue with i just take issue with the idea that we're gonna you know go eight eight eight eight i i guess if i guess i think we could probably meet it's probably boban maranovic is probably who we're thinking God is. I mean, he's not Polish, but to an American, I think we could fudge him as Polish. No, I don't know the difference between them and whatever he is. That's the right way to say that. And I'm sure that's the right way to say that.

But yeah, so something like that. I mean, I just think, you know, I definitely, you know, I support the idea that he's big, but he's like relatable. You know, I think that's what people loved about Jesus. He was like so big. He was also huge. Big guy, but he was just down. Yeah. Down.

Yeah, Jesus is not as big as God, obviously. I think he's his kid. Yeah. I don't remember the tree, but i believe he's the son of god he's either his kid or he's one of his kids like very very close friends so close to like he's around the house all the time and like basically at some point you're like hey man yeah like he's just in that there's no actual direct relation but he's just in that there's no actual direct but he's just like yeah uncle god yes uncle god's good uncle god is there any elios in the freezer uncle god's like there's one elios now there are yeah yeah he it's about a bounty i just went to

the store. Or what are you saying? No. Well, it could be that. I didn't really picture him shopping. Now there are. I just put the groceries away. Now there are.

I bought some a couple hours ago. Yeah. That's right. And Ilios is the name of the sun god. So they have that up there. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the irony that he's working with the Frozens is not lost on me. It's crazy.

Yeah, the sun is so hot. It doesn't matter to him. They last long. They can be stored that way, and he can cook them like this. He can pinch them. Yeah. Yeah. Which is really the form we all want form we all birds his mouth yeah yeah

no i mean i think it's nice to like meet you know because obviously we have we're we obviously have different denominations i mean the way we're talking we have but we're able to meet in the middle and find like we were all raised in what's your denomination? With all different kinds of being Catholic. De Niro's. Oh, wow. What were you? My denomination? Yeah. Hundreds.

That's really good. Hundreds only. Yeah. It can be tough. I mean, that's a tough way to grow up. I've heard about people who grew up with that, and that's... Yeah. You have to be very...

You know, a lot of people break those. break those but the clothes yeah the clothes are they're nice and yeah in my household fancy it's funny to think about it because when i was growing up it seemed so normally now it would be controversial but in my household joe biden got denomination that's crazy that's wow that's and that that was a while ago huh that's when he was growing up though yeah that's when i was growing up he was saying he's talking about when he was growing up so yeah no i know it makes sense that it would be a while you grow up around it you don't even think about it but now obviously it's controversial that joe biden got denomination yep gareth but let's introduce but let's introduce you asked i'd rather not be and it was no i at this point i don't i would rather not do it i mean i don't want to do it i don't know

what i would say unless it's if it's prepared and really good let's do it but if it's going to be let's let's do it right if we're going to do it and i don't mind doing it i should what would have what would a prepared one sound like and i'll let you know that's what i do is incredible something like that but starting like that would be great for me because we're going off you've seen you've seen them on comedy central's premium blend yes right yeah colleges all over the stuff like that i want that sort of stuff. Yeah. Shorties watching shorties. Yeah. Yeah. Comics.

Yeah. We just make me laugh. Yeah. I. Oh, man. When I was a kid, let me tell you, I would have done a lot to be on. Make me laugh. But no, go ahead.

I guess if it's good, let's do it. Were you sick a lot as a kid? So you're watching make me laugh at at like 2.30 p.m.? Yeah. On a school day. I played Make Me Sick. Yes, that's the mark of a sick child. I remember as an older man meeting the guy who hosted it. Mark Cohen.

Wow, that's fucking bonkers. Yeah. And he was like playing like like he was like opening for someone i knew at the golden nugget and i was like that's a crazy reality check for this business uh i remember he's saying walking in memphis too right yep yes he did someone on make me laugh doing uh because you only had a short amount of time oh yeah that's Yep. Yes, he did. Someone on Make Me Laugh doing... Because you only had a short amount of time. Oh, yeah. That's what was so horrible about the show.

And it was... He just goes real quick. Al Pacino, Jerry Seinfeld, and Christopher Walken as the Budweiser frogs. Just one by one, Budweiser annihilates, destroys the entire studio and me at home and then i did it for my parents at dinner wow and sorry it was pacino seinfeld and who's the third christopher walken oh yeah but did it make him laugh what he destroyed the entire fucking like I've never make your family laugh

no it's some point what you were just doing the show make my dinner the chain reaction has to end somewhere I mean but we're just talking about you know one away you feel like well it's the original source material this

gotta end somewhere though i know but it literally ended the first you know the first time away well i don't know who told who gave it to him someone that's true yeah there's no way that guy came up but he just beat that up he had to he had to start out he was watching make me laugh you know up he had to he had to start out he was watching make me laugh you know it's very meta yeah could is it is it crazy sorry is it crazy to hear the full impression of it is it crazy to ask for that to have i did i did i did bud and i did er could i hear it all jerry seinfeld jerry seinfeld that one i'm losing a little bit well what if you put it all together so we could just kind of hear that and I think you could kind of probably cover your

tracks a little as the Seinfeld one that yeah that's really good that is what it was and I think that's where I went astray at dinner well maybe the thing to do is to why don't you do the chris rock and the walk-in i'll do the middle where he's in chris rock now i am

curious so that is that is a great way to trick me into doing chris rock i think you're allowed to do it as sean hadn't pointed it out i would have done it i think here's my problem at dinner we i don't think i distinguished the wise and the earth the seinfeld and the walk-in i didn't all this planning months of planning and at the crucial moment two years waiting to cancel him we were so fucking and then we got it so organically in the palm of our hand someone mentions premium blend of course I'm gonna bring up make me laugh we're in a war room

cork boards yarn I don't think premium blend is gonna get him to say it I've worked with him long enough it'll pimp him into it he knows Gareth what we know of you is mostly what Kevin has that's nice told us. It's a bad start to the intro, but we'll plow through.

He said your name was Garth, which I was like, Kevin. Kev's saying Garth, yeah. It's not Garth. I'm so clear about this. It's not. I don't know. I don't know who to believe anymore.

It isn't. It's just, believe me, it's not. Kevin? No, don't even ask his opinion. know who to believe anymore. It isn't. It's just believe me. It's not. Kevin. No, don't even ask his opinion. 30 second rebuttal. What? He's going to get the denomination. Jury's still out.

Wise. Is that wrong to do? Yeah. So my name is Gareth. See, I think you would go more like well now i'm just doing an impression of you doing an impression a lot of people are um yeah i know that's kind of set ship that face voice that watched a thousand side felt sorry crazy quite a few i hear that crazy is that crazy to say no no not at all that's why we wanted you in here that was the other thing we knew about you

we knew what kevin said and we knew that you were my name might be the original jerry seinfeld yep the show is we're here to help it's hollywood handbook well my show no no no it was it was the show was hollywood handbook the show was the show for a long time well we're here to help is my show so i don't think you're allowed to and now it's the show and now you can't now you're side felting me you can't do that for a long time the show was hollywood handbooking man that was that was not legally the move you're making right now is not wise i'm just saying this is now the show it's been covered and all right i mean i'll let her go on tv that that old gray lady you know i don't really, but yeah, I guess.

The old gray bitch, Kevin calls her. Oh, come on. Kevin, you had a line again. And he says, but I tamed her. That's what Kevin says. Kevin. He's not doing any hand motions or anything. Kevin calls me in the middle of the night. Oh, Kevin.

Yeah, he is doing hand motions, but I don't know what they are. I don't understand them. That's crazy. It sort of looks like he's playing the trumpet, but it's really far away from his body. That's great. That is. I don't know what it means. That's wild.

Yeah, that makes. He's doing it now. And he says, I tamed her while he does that. I tamed that old gray bitch. Yes. I can't even. I don't know what the hands are doing god and he uh it's kevin's the producer yep and he's he's and he's on air talent as well

yep and that's what he does he worked he he he works his way on there doesn't he yeah he really does way onto that microphone. I had a small idea. Yeah. Here's what could work. He does a lot of that. Yes. He does the jumping. This part I think I'll need to explain. Well, I'll listen to some of our episodes, and there'll be edits, and I'll go, he really cut a lot around me, but I don't think he really cut around himself a lot.

Yeah, he just does that. He doesn't ask. I know my stuff works he always says yeah we'll finish an episode that's a little bumpy kind of like this one and we'll go and we'll go hey can we even release this and he'll go i know my stuff works we should put it out because i'm on fire this one yeah and he talks to us like he's i don't know how much he talks to you about us but uh he talks to us about you all the time. It doesn't come up?

It doesn't come up. I mean, it's come up, but it's been like... He's been... I mean, I don't think I'd be out of line saying he's been pissed when he's talking about you guys. Okay. That's how it is framed? Yeah, it's... And a lot of times, it's comparative.

A lot of times, he'll sort of tell us what we're doing in the direction of something that he likes and how it compares to you know they won't ever get there then what we do makes him piss because we won't get there they'll never get there he keeps saying that sort of stuff he said that they were so close and that was a few years ago he says right jesus he's saying, yeah. Because he's a fan first, and it pisses him off so much when he doesn't get the content that he needs. Yes, that's what he says a lot.

He goes, that content isn't where I need it. He's so passionate about the content, and there's something very specific he's looking for that we've been unable to provide. That's what we've been doing the show for so long. Yeah. When he talks, I mean, it's just so weird because when he talks to us about you, he's so pissed.

He's pissed at us, I thought? No, he's insanely pissed. What is he saying? Really interesting. It's like a blind rage. He's got his fist balled up. A lot of times there's so much spittle, I can't even understand what he's saying. He the trombone from playing the trombone and trying to play it

from so far away yeah that's part of what makes it well he's doing a lot he's doing a lot he's saying that he he tamed that old bitch while he's playing this the trombone from far away yeah he calls her gray too yeah no No, he says to us that... Good catch. Every opportunity that he's handed you... Trying to help you out. You're on book, huh? You're scripty.

Okay, this was so good. Can we just have you... Can we just get one where you do say Gray? Oh, yeah, sorry. I did... Yeah, I dropped that on that one i don't know why um just from the top no no no yeah i mean if you want i mean it's like i like what you're doing it's like a subtle thing but just for in case like somebody wants it like let's get one that's sort of on the nose and we just actually say the line as written yeah uh i tamed that old gray dirty bitch sorry okay well that uh yeah so i see you giving yourself a thumbs up that's not that we don't need to i don't think that'll we shouldn't talk about that but yeah i did

um i don't uh i don't think dirty was in there and i and i actually i don't want to get caught in a loop i don't either yeah no i just worked with a guy doing chris rock stuff so i don't even want to get i'm i'm looking to stay away from controversy yeah stay in your lane a little bit a lot a lot so the line again is i tamed that old gray bitch that yeah and we can actually use that like that's good enough for me that was actually no no no that was so much better i think i could definitely well let me try one as i want it because just so there's levels because that one to me felt very do one for you okay so this is a pickup we're just gonna get that old gray bitch and then we're gonna and then we're gonna get into something new i just want to say i feel i just want to say i feel like you guys

already are going to use the other one which i just want to say if we could just give this one a shot i think that because even the way you just framed it is this one's for me it's always great we will definitely record this we will be using the other one. We will absolutely be using it. You could get into post. But hold on, let me just... Kevin, circle that take, the previous one. I think that is going to be... I'd like to see it in the cut.

When you get into post, I'll tell you, you might be looking for the next one. Just to be clear. So let's not... I wouldn't even marry yourself to that. Kevin, I would uncircle that, and I would just let both of them be there. Kevin, Kevin.

Well, then circle this one too. Circle it again, and then throw out the pen and the eraser. I would love to have this one circled too, but I, yeah, I feel like we're really, I don't, okay, let's just, we'll do it, and I'll let the work speak for itself i think we rolling are we working anyone answering just someone answer me i don't know i mean that that's a kevin someone is definitely we can be rolling yeah we can be rolling it's a

weird way to say yeah for sure like that not. Does anyone feel really confident that we are? I feel like. He just said that we can be. Yeah, but it's a yes or no. And for it to kind of take on so many words feels really. No, it's an option. I mean, it definitely wasn't a no. Just looks like it looks like that's got to make you feel comfortable.

Not as what were you going to say, Kevin? Are we rolling? It looks like we're rolling yeah it's better but it's still really like crazy because you're meticulous we were just we were all making fun of his meticulousness and then for you guys to be so all right i'll just do it and yeah i'll record it i have it so i could send it i think it'd be better for i don't even want to make the whole big stink about it because it's obviously taken on a weird little life of its own at this point. No, now it's become such a big deal, yeah, that I'd almost rather just move on entirely.

We don't even get it, you know? Because we have it. We have it, but do we have everything we want? And don't stop rolling. If that's what you're going to say, do not. I'm going to swap SD cards. We're out. We're full on that one.

And our battery i think is gonna die over here i can just let me give it to you and even if it's not rolling i can get it to you or you can say you can call me at another time and say we want that i don't have to do it i mean the vibe is horrendous right now to be quite honest with you the the energy is really it's it's bad and negative and i want to do it and i'm i can't even believe how long i'm talking about it i know i feel amazing you got so bad i feel amazing we got it i'm seeing it in the cut like that that was me testing out all i care about is the finished product that's what's important to me more options and that is that isn't a great place right now because we only do one is not great so let me do one more because i want to

move on from this it's this has been sure well you did three you did one correctly and then you did two i want to do one more i want to do i want to be clear and i'm not even pushing back because i think that's a great say oh we only did one and it's like well you want to do a four don't make it feel like there's friction I'm agreeing no I'm happy I'm the happiest person I'm over the fucking moon

the fact that I am seeing it in the cut I'm Zoloft the man listen look at us did you say you're Zoloft the man Zoloft the man. Listen, let's not. Look at us. Are we having a good? Did you say you're Zoloft the man? Zoloft the man?

Is that like Portugal the man? I would like that cut out if possible. I don't want to put too much on Kevin's plate. It's sort of a misrepresentation of what Zoloft even is. I agree. Let's get the line, and then we can circle back on the Zoloft thing, because I'm not proud of it. I don't think anyone's super into it. So let's get the line and then we can circle back on the Zoloft thing because I'm not proud of it. I don't think anyone's super into it. So let's get the line and move on from that part

because this is, again, it's ridiculous how long this is taking. When I feel myself talking, I feel myself losing everyone and I don't like that feeling at all. So let's just get it now. Ready? Are we rolling? Kevin, does the SD card back in anew? Yeah.

There's like an ellipses before that. He said it's a yes or no question. He said, I mean, it's very, very close to a yes. It's 100% not a no. I'm really proud of Kevin because I know how hard this is for him.

Especially with everything he's told me about, you know. And this is actually very, very much resonating with what Kevin said. I know how pissed he is. That's great for the character that I'm going for right now. So that is, while I really would maybe flag and push back a little bit on him being through so much and how proud you are of him,

I love that. Let's just get the line so we can move on right away. All right? So I'm just going to do it. Does anyone want to lead me in with anything? I think we've established who would do that. I definitely don't remember what the lead-in was.

I don't need it. Does anyone want to... You want me to lead you in with something? Yeah, that'd be great. Alright, here we... Hey, Lil' Chemistry never hurt anyone. Does somebody want to lead me into lead you in with something yeah what yeah that'd be great all right here we okay all right so you hey little little chemistry never heard anyone into the lead-in yeah well okay all right great yeah give him a lead-in give me something you give me something it'll be a two this will be a two-hander you give me whatever's most helpful for you we will not be using it so you'll set it up yeah let's not okay okay let's not say stuff like that right away because it's

not great energy okay i'm gonna lead you in and this is not right away nothing about what's happening now is right away i'm not trying to create that tension i'm losing it now i'm losing my energy to be able to lead in let me lead you in let me lead i'm gonna lead you in right now okay here we go all right i'm leading you in i think this one's gonna be really good I'm gonna lead you in right now I think this one's gonna be really good yeah we're not gonna use this you old great bitch come on

that's a bad we got it no what is that felt good I was in the zone and that's all you man you set me up you led me into that no no no you can't that really

I went somewhere i didn't know what i was gonna say that actually like for all this i thought this was such a waste of time but we did end up actually plussing it so hold on allow me now that we're sort of we've gone through i do think the first one i did worked i think that might have been the one that but that i'm actually looking at it now that one was uncircled. I don't even know how we're going to find it. We said we weren't uncircling. When I see it in the cut,

the eyeline is off. I think I pushed. I shouldn't have. The one I did originally. Here we are. That's the process. You know what I mean? That's what's so beautiful. It's the back and forth

until every step of the way you push back. Pressure makes diamonds. It's so funny. You plan and you plan and you plan. You were right. And then art happens the way it's meant to happen. And so it's like it really was an honor to be a part of your process for you to get me where I needed to be. And then

we had no idea the whole time yeah like you're you've got it you're just putting us all through our paces to get there no i there was a point in the middle where i was like i hate this man like i was hating you yes and then ultimately that was what i needed to go where I went. I was pushing for you to get there. And remember when you guys looked at me like I was fucking crazy? I do. I remember. And even that was so long ago now.

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over the old sd card well that isn't that kind of the vibe you were getting no no the vibe was very switching very much that he was switching SD cards. Knowing Kevin, he would not. I mean, I don't know. I've been working. I know we all work with him, but I've been working with him a long time. A little bit longer than you. A little bit longer.

We kind of know when he's taping over. Whether it's a switching yes or a taping over yes. And it's almost always a taping over yes. Sometimes there's half of the old ones still around, you know, which is. Most of his possessions were destroyed in a fire so we're not exactly like swimming in sd cards over here yeah and he's we literally were for a while because they all melted i want to get into that because that's important you couldn't use them when they're melted you just you have to swim in them there's definitely a middle ground but but I definitely want to get into that because that is interesting.

I would suggest maybe since we don't have that original one, you might just want one more from me to make sure we have it. Can I talk about... You did say you wanted to get into it. Can I talk about something that we don't discuss in terms of Kevin's fire thing that he did? Yeah.

That is really sort of, do you want to get the line first and then get into that? Or do you want to just get into that now? I'd say time permitting. We, we, we could go back for the line and we have such a good one now. And I think that I worry you diminish your own work because you really did

send me somewhere with that lead in. I'm not a credit. I'm just, I'm making sure we have the options and i'm i worry about what i see in your future gareth on this episode is a special thanks i don't even want that but i what i i've been worried about you want something more than that so i'm sort of wondering where i'm being taken now you know what i mean like if there is this one is this one is way more so i just want to do

the line once to make sure we have it and that's really this one's not a journey the other one i've been thinking on i knew what i was doing okay but that's what you were saying about that one too the first one this one's real though i know but that's what you do i like i know you're like and it's interesting i'm going and i'm thinking does he think i can do it even better no no this one that's what it feels like right you want to hear me say it again and i wonder we need to get one of mine we need to get is there more in the tank but i had something to say about kevin's fire okay i it's just when you said time permitting i worry we will run out of time and i just that's the vibe we're not using

any so like don't worry about there's still a whole episode to do we're not using except of course the line that we got like that maybe the next option which is very close to coming so that's just so you want to do you either want to go with the old one or you want to take another i want to go i want to have the old we can't we can't use both i mean we're like we're not using either yeah that would be weird we're like wearing them or something i'm suggesting so strange to use yours when i'm the one who's going to be talking hey let's wait to post for the big calls guy guy. Now, let's just... What I'm suggesting is a lead-in, another lead-in, not the line for this

lead-in. Hey, trust the process. Not the line for this. Let me get it out there, and then in post, you have the options. And then we can get into this fire thing, which everyone's dying to hear. I'm dying to hear about the fire stuff. Alright, so you're going to lead me into the lead-in againin again yeah but your lead-in shouldn't be the line this time

just to make sure we have it understood yeah and i hope it's not because that that that did feel like it took the wind out of your sails in terms of doing the line well it's just when you hear leading you don't think gracious about but that was your intention so yes no i was doing a whole no when you did i was like that time you did want that to happen but this time you don't this son of a bitch played me like a fiddle man he got me right where we needed to go i'm really happy with the cut right now but as i'm seeing as i'm taking a look at the just sort of the rough assembly there's an assembly does work okay yeah well you know i mean the thing about that what if there's notes it's just an editor's pass but it it really i mean there's there's air like

the timing is not perfect and the network the network has honestly been really funny i'm not seeing that you but they'll they could change so fast and if you don't have the options it'll be your ass yeah they'll freak out man they're your buddies till they ain't trust me i've worked i've worked this game a long time boys okay let's just get one more for safety and i'll do it and the lead-in will not be the line because that can throw people not the first time as i planned that very clearly okay so let's just get one more and i'll do the lead-in you do the lead-in lead-in should not be the line then we'll do it all right all right uh yeah uh okay so i don't even remember what i led you in with but uh yeah uh let's let's get this right so go ahead do it don't do the line though well the thing about kevin's fire that we never really talk about that's been frustrating to me is like obviously it's, it's tragic on his behalf,

an explosion, the garage burning, he wakes up, he's worried that, excuse me, I'm fucking talking. Okay. I just want to make sure we're in the lead.

No, but come on, man. You've been doing this forever. Like he, and you know, the, the,

the tail as it goes is that there was one of these battery charges, these like Mophie, like battery charge, like phone battery chargers, like a portable one that exploded in a backpack. And of course, it's very sad. His possessions, two years of his life, a lot of money put into repairing this. But also, I used to use those little chargers that sometimes I could. Do you want this lead in or not? Is my question. it a lead-in i guess we just get the lead-in can we just get the lead-in off can we get the lead-in clean because it's gonna feel weird if you just

say it out of nowhere well the lead-in feels very much like a subject change which i was trying to avoid if you remember when we that was the whole thing is this a new direction for it is this like a new lead-in no i'm getting confused are you doing a second lead-in because what i thought was you were leading into sean's lead-in sean was gonna be able to do it be able to do his lead on well lead in yeah go ahead i absolutely just a lead-in is normally not a... Well, you now need to lead him in again to his part. Oh, we don't need to have him do all that again. I mean, that is...

It doesn't have to be all of it, but he can at least be able to pick up a little bit where he was. Well, yeah, I do feel like it's hard to start from a dead stop and just... Okay. I need to warm the engine up a little. Yeah.

Okay, let's... So give him give him something okay the lead it'll be hey do the lead in but remember i'm gonna say the line do you want the lead in to be the line no no no that no no no no so no if my option go ahead go ahead again i know you just had pushed so hard to not have it be that and then i'm not doing it and then you're like bugging out yes which by the way i understand hey hello bug it out it do i look like it was bugging excuse me i'm not a bugger guy i'm chill no i want to let's get it right do it that's what i want that's what i love do it let's get there great very chill hey don't forget i'm the fucking guy who got us that first line with my process so let's not get all hey what's

this guy no that's what i'm saying i don't know where we're at maybe i'm not allowed to he knows what he's doing he knows what he's doing that's right no it's it's definitely it's all right frustrating it's also no it shouldn't be frustrating go ahead just just get just go ahead again that's my lead-in i don't love it yeah i don't i mean all right so the lead-in will be hey could you go for it tell it hey what happened to the fire don't make it too yes well it's a yeah it's it's it's just that the and i don't even know if this is true but supposedly one of these things just spontaneously combusted i'm in a position where sometimes you know whatever i'm working i'm on set lately and it's not a big fucking deal i'm some ep on a show sure but it's it's like uh um there's a so i'm on set i mean you know whatever

i'm okay i've got responsibilities but you're there and you're on location or something your your phone starts to wear down and or you're doing this you're recording a voice note kevin made me record a voice note for this because my sd card's messing up and uh i could use one of those little portable batteries and i used to have them i would use them but i'm so scared of them now and it's got to be all right if it's true what he's saying, it's this massive anomaly with the trauma I've experienced from this guy's house. It's crazy. You know, having it some reimagining.

My worry is that if I deliver the line now, it's going to seem so weird. It's just so, it'll be weird. i was really in it with sean no yeah keep going it felt like you had gotten me to it yeah so it is sort of unfair like the the emotional burden that i've been asked to carry on kevin's behalf for this and the sort of and the level of inconvenience because those things are extremely useful helpful to have around don't you i'm actually sorry i'm agreeing with gareth i i i think if he delivers the line out it will just be weird i think we should yes yeah i think

we should just move on i what is that no it's too weird like that like it's it's it has no place at the end of the story it's so weird i was saying i am agreeing with you thought it was you shouldn't do it it's too weird to do it yeah i may i may have to move on we have to just delete it like yes i i was this is what i was trying okay all right well is it the i am agreeing with that take i know but it's like it agreeing with me and yeah that's like i was saying the whole time that that would happen so i'm not trying to i felt like i was building to it but i do also good it just felt like a total subject change and it really felt like you were just talking about a totally different thing the subject we were on before was i guess just you

saying the line yes didn't feel like such a risk this is i guess what happens when kevin tries to bring up the fire now i'm seeing what happens these guys are like hey this is feeling like a total subject change i'm trying to do my thing i'm trying to get my shit off this horrible event in his life yeah no truly true i mean he's traumatized you know as as i was i mean i'm i'm still dealing with the fallout yeah um yeah but uh yeah i mean it's been so long like that we've been recording too that to just like not i think i think if i just get it out real quick then we could just be done with it and i you want a one i don't even you want a one sentence setup that is not the line is this this right? Well, I don't even want it. I'm worried that if I agree to a setup that that could be bad. So I'm just trying to understand if I'm characterizing this correctly. You would like a one-sentence setup that isn't the line.

I just think you'll, yes. I think you'll want the, yeah. So let's just go. So walk me into it, and I will give it to you. Okay. You know, hey, how about Kevin with all that stuff he's saying about we're here to help that other let's hold for room tone is that uh we need to i'll take we have to i'll tame that old great bitch you have to get the uh is that uh are we even getting the line if we're doing room tone?

All right, recorder's on. So we weren't, okay. So be quiet through the, okay. Should I do the line? Maybe I shouldn't be the setup guy. I mean, I think what I'm learning is I'm just not the setup guy. Is that the, yeah. Yeah.

I think we found out, I'm kind of the guy who does the line. I probably don't know the take we have, but I don't think I am the setup guy. So maybe that's been the issue. I think we could split the line. I think that could be interesting too. Say it at the same time. Split the line. Could be crazy.

Could work. I don't know. The two of you... What are we telling the audience? Yeah. Then who does the lead into the... If the two of you were we telling the audience yeah who then who who does the lead into the if the two of you are splitting it did that you both do the lead in to the lead in i think i think we've got a little lost with this whole lead in thing too i think that's sort of maybe where we where the milk turned for us a little bit i think that lead in stuff i don't know

if we need that let's go old school i. Well, I'm saying I feel like... Just jam it in. No one's been happy with the lead ins, so... Well, I mean, I feel like... I didn't even want to do it. But that is how we got the one good version of it that we have. And so it feels weird to be like, hey, what if we don't do the thing that worked?

Well, the thing is we had... All right, let's just, let's move ahead. And I'll tell you what, I'll send you guys some options after the show. That's it. There you go. And I don't know why nobody's really reacting to that, but... I don't understand what the fuck it means,

and I'm trying to be nice again like I am. I'm trying to move on because I feel like we are now fully fixated on this little thing, and it is not a big deal, and so'm trying to move on because i feel like we are now fully fixated on this little thing and it is not a big deal and so let's just move on i don't we had a lot of stuff planned for the episode like we were going to do let's do that things with you about you about your guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys i'm looking at the numbers the episode is did amazing it's up it's out like it's it did like i i i haven't seen this in years this job sean thanks there were no notes i told you man the network has been so fucking you guys did do the special thanks and the credits obviously

to get because at this point i'm you said you didn't want it no i said i didn't want it because i said i didn't want it because i thought i don't even want that but i said that because i thought maybe you'd use the line in lieu in lieu of me not doing the line then yeah i should have had that we told you that great numbers we right but we told you that there was no line. We said the special thanks was there. The special thanks was right there. We were about to ship it.

And then you said you didn't want it. Shipping it is crazy. It doesn't feel current. But I just think that there should be some sort of nod in my direction for getting you there, Sean. On the video feed, we're all sort of nod in my direction for getting you there sean you know on the video feed we're all there's like some of us are kind of nodding not really actually i'm like dissociating now i'm like experiencing like a a whole other thing i'm like because of the acting like because because of the the numbers yeah just the reception that we've had to the episode

and how positive the numbers have been. And that'll do it, right? It's like more powerful. You're a podcaster. People talk about fucking ayahuasca or whatever, what can really give you these transportive highs. It's like, no, man. You have no fucking idea until you've hit numbers like these.

You don't know what high is no i just wanted i felt like we all were doing a thing you know and i just wanted another chance we did yeah and it's so funny because i felt like you i felt like i felt like you were doing a thing and then i felt like you were doing a thing. And then I felt like we were doing a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. But that's why, where the fuck is my name in the special, you know, whatever I'm happy.

How about this? We'll work on it. Cause you explicitly said you didn't want to, please. Let's just work on another line in the future together. That's all I'm asking for. If you get maybe like a three line deal with someone, let me just help with that. That's all I'm asking for if you get maybe like a three-line deal with someone let me just

help with that that's all i'm asking for a little slice of pie i i hate to approach it that way of just like there will be some lot like this line had something to say it was so organic and it was so of the moment and it was inspired by like real source material like it was kevin's lived experience and i think that everyone connected to that and so to just go like and then we'll do a line it's so cynical it's these fucking sequels it's this culture of like ip and remakes and like no original i hate that culture i don't really want to participate in we're all on the same page yes just producting our audience in this way that is not uh organic at all let's keep the we came up with a great thing the numbers are unbelievable let's keep the thing going let's

do another one sometime not the same thing different thing yeah yeah the pushback is great the pushback is great and i don't know why i think we all were feeling something then i got us there then i maybe did a thing i should have just stayed away from because i just wanted an option for you all and then now it's awkward and i don't like that so let's get it back to where it was let Let's talk about that Polish god a little more. How about that guy? That is some fertile comedy territory. I was in my comfort zone when we were doing that. It was also not as good as what we ended up doing when I actually did the live.

It's the circle back. I feel good about... I mean, it let's... It's the circle back. I feel good about... I mean, it's... It's shipped, Garth. Gareth. What we do is... We do our version of it and then we release it out into the world.

We auction it off. The rights are gone. Relativity's got them. They're in Dana's hands now. Dana and Spacey have got them. They're in Dana's hands now. Dana and Spacey have the rights. They will do with this project what they feel is right. It's no longer ours.

Yeah, exactly. I am not one to say I know better than you know, media moguls who have produced major hits, culturally impactful hits. I agree. I'm not exactly going like,

but let's check with Gareth. And that's not, that's no, well, the voice indicates that in no way means to diminish the voice is me. The voice is not, that was not your normal voice. I'm saying,

well, I'm saying that's what I'm not saying. Yeah. But nor are you saying, let's check with you know me or uh yeah no whoever no i know i just it just there was such synergy going on for a while and now it feels like we're kind of i don't know it's kind of like i you am i if i'm crazy for saying i'm feeling that, you guys, but it just feels like, I don't know, like we had something good back there. The first time I got Sean to say the line, remember that moment that I'd planned? Do I remember?

I just went to the premiere. Like, it's very fresh in my mind. Like, that's, I mean. Well, you can easily listen back to the episode and remember that moment i just did i just went to the premiere 17 minutes standing though yeah that's that's whale and now we're upset like this is exactly this is what we've been chasing this whole time that's a that's a really good point it is whale numbers see there's good points there's good synergy there's a lot of upside no people were saying that in the room as they were standing they were going jesus christ these are whale numbers these are whale numbers that's the

minutes of the standing oh we did whale numbers yeah i can't even sit down and brendan and brendan was there crying just as much as he did, but not for his own project. Is he associated with it anyway? For our project. Right, so it's just sort of... Yeah, I mean, he's got special thanks, but he was, you know... So there were...

Yeah, he's not like... There were... Okay, so there was an area of special thanks in the... There were a couple. It was Brendan. It was Jake Johnson. We explicitly told you. Uh-huh, okay.

All right. That's just... To be clear, I didn's just to be clear. I didn't want to be next off of that list. And it's probably. Well, none of them had actually said. And I mean, we didn't even talk. None of them had said that they did not want it.

You could do a make good because I do want. I do want something for it. This could get legally. I don't want to. And I did help with the line. And I, you know get legally i don't want to and i did help with the line and i you know so i don't want to i said near the beginning of the episode the show is we're here to help now all i was saying at the time was just saying the name of your show yeah but you interpreted that as as i was saying that the show we were doing was we're changing. Yeah. You fucking lost it. I've never,

I've never seen you like that. Yes, you did. You bug out hard. You bugged out. We need to bury that term. I did not bug out. You took such,

such, you went so far out of your way to say that the show we were doing was not. We're here to help. But I guess in retrospect, that would have been an opportunity to have all of this fall under the we're here to help shingle. It's also tell me you've never been on a talk show without telling me you've never been on a talk show. This is what happens. You fucking you sit down on the couch and fucking Seth or whoever goes like the show is we're here to help that they're saying the name of your show they're not saying someone's bugging out they're not saying

fucking late night with seth meyers has been changed to we're here on the help they're saying this is the show that this person is plugging like i'm promoting their thing for them they're gesturing to you this is what hayes was doing so the show is there bear, and Eben Moss-Backrack is like, what the fuck are you talking about? The show is led by Seth Meyers. Hey, am I laughing right now? I'm having a laugh because I'm having a good time. Okay? Nobody's bugging out.

I mean, I do love the positivity, but I also it doesn't erase. It's a little bit of gaslighting for me because you were. Bugging out very hard when Hayes said the show and you just assume that someone was trying to steal from you. And when we were trying to support you, do I look like I'm bugging out? Come on. I'm very chill. chill right remember how about this wise remember that that was that was the toughest thing that should i didn't even know it was part of the i'm very confused what the finished product is kill your darlings you know yeah that was that what we clung for dear

life to that moment because we really remembered it being so fun and brendan was sobbing over that play i said that like 40 minutes ago and that was yeah okay i look but yeah i mean like yeah yeah i'm just i'm just here to say fucking a this has been an awesome jam sesh to get by the recording stopped that was a hate gun podcast