Hollywood Handbook - MUNA, Our Music Friends

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

The Boys prepare for Headgum Fest with NAOMI MCPHERSON and KATIE GAVIN from the band MUNA. See Hollywood Handbook live and livestreamed April 24th at the Dynasty Typewriter in LA! Click for ticketsGet a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnes. Like the show? Rate Hollywood Handbook 5-Stars on Apple PodcastsAdvertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Okay, the theme song's playing. And as I told everyone before the theme song even started, I have a funny joke to begin the episode. Hayes is making me aware of the beat. So you guys set So yeah, I can kind of like, Yep, and I'm getting into the pocket and I'm feeling the groove. So, you know, everybody's, excuse me.

Everybody's talking about this solar eclipse coming up. You know, everyone's talking about, we're flying down to Austin to see it. You know, all these people, the solar eclipse, it's in the news. But nobody told me that it was gonna affect LA like this. We've got a bit of a lunar eclipse. We couldn't get the full moon-a.

But we got Katie, we got Naomi. That was a little under the weather. We don't have the full moon, huh? But it's a lunar eclipse a little bit here. So it's celestial events happening all over. It's true. But we do have Katie and I, we're so

happy and it's a Hollywood handbook today. When did you start in this family? Remind me, I remember seeing the poster go up outside. When did you start?

Oh, in the head? Has there been two podcasts? There's only been one. Did we rebrand? We took away, the cover of it used to be our- A full moon eye. Yeah, it was Josette's ass crack. I don't know if I can say that on the live television.

We forwent that. You can't. So you had to start a whole new podcast after that. We were being censored on a mass scale and we were being demonetized. So we did rebrand the cover, which brought us to HeadGum and changed everything. That's crazy, man. Amir actually sat us down when we first had a meeting here

and he said, only my ass crack will be fixed. And he said, don't even try it. So like very punk rock that you even went for it. I'm not surprised to hear that the mighty fist of Amir came to squeeze the life out of it. Did I ever get my answer on that? That's a good point. When did that happen?

And it's due to the fact that I don't really know. Yeah, do you guys know? Do we keep score? Yeah. A year ago? Yeah, that's actually how you win. The body does. Yeah. The body do.

The body do. A year, I think, right? I'm looking at our producer. You could tell us any number of things. With Head Gum, longer than that. Longer than a year. Okay. Let's say almost two. Longer than a year. Okay. Let's say almost two.

Longer than a year? Well, I mean, we're basically longer than a year or two. We kinda had to take a little pause. You guys were on tour. You were busy with Taylor Swift. Yeah. Anya sitting in today's episode. To keep track of time.

Just didn't notice what logo was on the calendar. And people are saying, oh my gosh. It's Kevin's party. Oh my gosh. You guys thinking of renaming the podcast? Kevin's party? It isn't becoming increasingly Kevin's party. Yeah. Let's face it.

And I will cry if I want to. Yeah, we have no identity in the cultural landscape and Kevin's party is evocative. Yeah, yeah. It's like, it is getting me going like, I think I wanna be invited. Right, it's Aaron's party revisited. Yeah. RIP.

Yeah. But Kevin's still with us so he can party. For now. We're not renaming the podcast, we are relighting the podcast. People are probably noticing that. People are noticing. It's looking a little better.

It's always so interesting when we do have another piece of talent from Head Gum come on the show and we see how they are treated in comparison to us. That they do get glamor. Yes, that they do get. Probably so much to go around here, glamour. Yes, that they do get. Probably so much to go around here, I guess. Yes.

And that's not to say that we've had many other Headgum hosts. That hasn't been the sort of cross promotional thing, has it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Does it happen for you? Are you offered the opportunity to work with other hosts? This is our first one. This is the first one for you? We're offer to work with? This is our first one. This is our first one.

This is the first one for you? We're offer only and this has been our first offer. Wow. So thank you. And you took the first offer. We did actually. All people have to do is offer and maybe we'll only take it.

Yeah, well, as we said, we're fans of the pod. And yeah, I didn't understand that. Well, we thought it'd be a good opportunity fans of the pod and I didn't understand that Well, we thought it's a good opportunity, you know for us to we so rarely get to talk about kind of our careers in Hollywood What I was initially told actually was that Anya was not going to have you do the podcast. Is this correct? Actually, I I think that's true like because when we Mentioned that we liked this podcast you were surprised that we knew it. Yeah.

I think this is someone who's, you know, I would say it is part of your job to like, yeah, kind of put a positive spin on the show. 100 percent. Yeah. Yeah. And then. And then really like another part of my job is to like protect my talent. Yeah. That's like another part. But I'm your talent. In a way you are, but in a smaller way. You are. Because this is Kevin's party. Yeah, that's true. Kevin's job is to protect you and my job is to protect Muna. Okay. Yeah,

so I heard that Kevin- And then my job is to also protect Kevin. Kevin made an inquiry about getting Muna on the show and Anya was like, absolutely not. I'm not even going to present it as an option for them. I will not subject them to you. Yes, yes. We asked Kevin, you think Kevin just reaches out on his own? No, no, no. You have a very different idea of a producer

than Kevin does at least. No, we do have to activate him. And so we had sent him on this mission and then Adya dropped the fucking gate on him and said, let's keep this. And then I guess you thankfully actually said something that you liked. And you tried to yuck your yums. But you said this is delicious to me.

We said yummy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I could never have imagined that you guys would have found this yummy, and I'm thrilled. We can, we can. The synergies. We can hang. We can hang. We're good. Can't necessarily say it, but they could do it.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Hanging isn't about describing hanging. No, it's about the act. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You could just feel it when you're in it. But this is an important part. You get on this show, you're your guest of ours,

and then Mike Mitchell will tell you, after he records with someone else, that they have to get you on the show. Yeah. Interesting. No. That's as far as it goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the next step. But it feels incredible.

Daisy chain. Yes. Yes. Yes, when you first see it. He really does mean it. In the moment, yeah. And I don't know what happens in between that and what would need to happen for any of us to be booked on the show,

but at the moment that he says it, it's so genuine and it is a big warm hug. Who is this that you guys are talking about? So there's- I love that. Oh my God. So this is beautiful. That's so- Inject that into my veins. So beautiful and special.

This is, there's a show called Doughboys that has, you know, basically pays for the couches, pays for your special lights. They are the ones keeping the entire headgum, Ponzi scheme going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this makes sense. They're at the top of the entire head gum Ponzi scheme going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this makes sense. They're at the top of the pyramid of that.

We used to be signed to RCA and that was like Coldplay. So Doughboys is Coldplay. Doughboys is Coldplay. Doughboys is Coldplay. Okay, okay. Which by the way, some nice tunes. Oh, yes. I don't have a problem with Coldplay. People talk about show they go. It's not for everybody Coldplay is for everybody

Yeah, and so that's that's great lots in common everybody eats cheeseburgers. Yeah, I mean like they're pretty good. Yeah No, what's your favorite? tune my favorite tune of no cheeseburgers of Coldplay Let me think let let me think. Cause there's a lot of good ones. Hang on. You can't think too much about this. Cause I gotta get, no, I have to go searching.

Viva La Vida is my mom's favorite song. That's awesome. Oh. Which makes me looking so forward to what I discovered my favorite song. 30 years from now. That's exciting. It makes me looking so forward. To hear it.

Picks you. Thank you, yes. Your bones, what does that mean? It's gonna ignite your bones. Ignite your bones. Do you think it's sexual? That's like what's happening with these lights. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. These lights are igniting my bones. I guess this is what the star treatment is like and that's what Chris was trying to tell us. And that is what the lights also do. Vixi was about ring light. Yeah. That's gonna be, yeah.

That's so true. That's gonna be my new favorite. What is the one they did with chain smokers? Yes, that's right. We like that one. We like that one. Is it like, I want something just like this. Yes! Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- I'm having a good, good time. And that's the J.D. Me too. Yes. I'm having a good time. Do you think any light that's in front of you is a ring light?

Like a stoplight, you mean? Kind of like any light that you encounter? That's so mean. I've been thinking about what you think. No, we just want to be able to connect. Like, it's going to help us for the rest of the show. So our all lights. I think any light that is for like beautification

Okay, so you okay. Okay. So what you think is You get this light in front of you next thing you get that rig Right, yeah, that's what you think As in an actual like a Super Bowl ring? We all want that ring. Or the light predates the shape around the ring. I actually kind of assumed you were saying like that ring as in put a ring on it. That but that's what they're talking about when they say put a ring on it. When they say put a ring on it they say get out there, perform, and win the Super Bowl. That's what they mean. Yeah, if you like it, you should have gone and won the Super Bowl so that you could put a ring on it.

Damn. Then you might deserve me, you'd be a champion. I mean, that's what the song is about. And I try to live by it. I'm happy to finally have the ring light on me. Yeah. Maybe this will be a Super Bowl winning podcast, right? I think you stand a good chance.

Headgum Fest. Headgum Fest, it's happening tomorrow, we have to get ready, right? It's like, I was shocked, you know, when it kind of got announced to me. I think Kevin just texted me earlier today to be like, head gun fest is tomorrow. Fair to say we're co-headliners. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I don't wanna get into a whole peeing contest. We can co-headline, I'm happy to do that. I'm not gonna say ass crack on the show.

No. Some people. Yeah. We're opening for you guys, obviously. But it's billed on the poster as the same size. Well, this is what I wanna talk about, the same size. Well, this is what I want to talk about. The font size. Yeah. And I do want to ask, what is the maximum font size you've gotten at a festival?

I don't know the actual point size. Whatever it is, I'd like to go up one point for both of us. Let's try. Let's I think we've probably been around. I don't know, maybe a 40. Ew. And then there's, and then it probably goes up to 200. That's really good. Yeah, so if it goes up to 200, let's try to do,

well, more than 40. Maybe like 201. Well, like 60. Just because like, it's our damn festival, although we weren't that involved in the planning. And I have questions about the planning because as I understand it, there's two venues that is taking place at simultaneous stages.

One is the Hollywood Bowl, and the other one is the headgump parking lot. And I don't know which one we'll be at, but I know that one of the spaces we can't use because it belongs to another company. So there's two simultaneous stages. And we could switch off or we can do whatever. Yeah. I just think in terms of like us.

Playing music. Yeah. Well, there's another thing I want to say. Yeah, there's another thing I want to say. I thought. Makes sense for you to play music. I thought the rest of the people would be doing podcasts, but I guess we all have to play music. Yeah, yeah, totally.

That like the whole thing is music. But it's podcast, it's not podcast. So what I misunderstood, I thought it was podcast slash music, but it's podcast music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So it's like the best clips from the podcast with like you could put like the chain smokers or Coldplay instrumentals

like underneath. If I can use instrumentals, that helps me because I was told I have to write 14 songs about that. That's what they like. Like in the in less than 24 hours, I'm supposed to have 14 original songs. I certainly don't want the chain smokers

to kick my ass. So I don't know that I'm supposed to have 14 original songs. I certainly don't want the chain smokers to kick my ass. So I don't know that I'm gonna use their backing track without their help. I wouldn't mind having some Muna songs out here. Do you guys have a back line? Like, do you have the equipment for? I don't even know what a back line is. Like, do you have amps and like sound systems? You might't even know what a pipeline is. What's the button? Like, do you have amps and like, sound systems?

You might not even need, you need mics. You might not need an amp, but you'd need mics. Depends on if you were going a stripped down. It sounds like he's going for a down. Do you guys need an amp? We can go either way, depending on the setup. If Josette's feeling better, we probably need at least one.

If people in the audience are like, ah. Cause it'll be feedbacky, or it's too loud. That's too loud. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm like. Yeah, it was too loud. The amp was too loud. And so then you could be like, that's okay.

We don't need that. That's okay, we don't need this, that's okay. Right? I think that's kind of how we would say it. We would test it out first and then. Oh, thank you so much. And then people could continue to do, I kind of do actually do that at concerts.

They still kind of do it, yeah, but they're just kind of, it's like you're like. It's not to be rude, it's just like a health thing. I do this at concerts, but I make sure that I'm also moving my head so that they know I don't hate it. I'm like bopping. Don't you bring your thoughts to the table?

Sometimes I don't, but sometimes it is too loud, but you have to go. It's still too loud. It's really loud. When I leave, I'm just like, why did I do that? And why were they being so loud? Yeah. Every time I get home,

No. I'm just like, it shouldn't have been that loud. And it probably shouldn't have been there. If you cover your ears in kind of a cool way where it's like you're grabbing the side of your head and then people can just think that it's not, you don't think it's too loud, you just need your hands to move your head.

Yeah, I like that. I want to move my head more than just my neck is going to do. You're doing like a weak. Or maybe your neck is- I'm bringing in reinforcements. Your neck can't do that anymore. Assisted head banging. Yes.

Like medically assisted. Yeah, be like, oh damn. Head banging. That's actually kind of cool. And I've got big mittens on. Yeah, I'd be like, oh damn. Head banging. That's actually kinda cool. And I've got big mittens on. Yeah. I have like some sort of sound deadening material to them. Finger dexterity or mittens with no finger dexterity? You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, I got it, yeah. Gloves. I'm familiar with that, gloves. Finger dexterity or mittens. Mitt? Baseball mitt. Baseball mittens. Didens? Yeah, baseball mittens. Baseball mittens? Mm-hmm.

Did they shorten it to mitt? Or are they also mittens? Baseball, yeah, just recently they did change the terminology of the baseball equipment to mitt. I think it was another font size issue, I think, just like for the- Couldn't fit it? Yeah, couldn't fit it on the cards and stuff.

And they didn't want to get political. Yeah, yeah. Now enough time has passed. Especially this year, an election year. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, two baseball mitts on either side of your head.

But then... Throwing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Throwing is the issue. Yeah. Throwing is gonna be the issue. But the nice thing about like...

Catching. It's not a problem. It will not be the issue. But the nice thing about like. Catching. It's not a problem. It will not be the issue. I'll catch my ass off, yeah. But to no avail. What now? It's so hard to turn a double play. With a baseball bat on each hand.

Yeah, it's a challenge, but at the same time, what is worth doing that's not? True. Right? Especially if you wanna win. And that's what we're about. And so I do wanna win the festival, I do wanna have it be successful.

I do want a little bit of help just in terms of structuring some of the songs that we have to write. I don't know if you have yours already, but I would. Where do each of us kind of sit at the acapella table too, is what I'm. Range wise. Yeah, that's range. I mean, yeah, range or like, you know, what's your. Just aesthetically, like what's.

Is it instrumental vocals? Yeah. Is it trad singing? Sure. Mm-hmm. Or is it, and by instrumental vocals, I mean, for such great heights, you'd be going, boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love that. And then of course, getting back behind the old kit, the old beatbox kit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Kevin told me he has one of those weird like Throat sleeves that you see acapella people wear. Yeah times. I've actually never seen that. Oh, okay Well, Kevin has one And I guess it can help you make like different percussion noises with your throat. So where do you think?

Katie you're What were do your talents lie? Well, it's like your strength. For that. It's not a job interview. For me doing acapella? Yeah. Are you on one of the ends?

Where do you see yourself in five years? Of the horseshoe? Acapella wise. Oh, sure. Where in the horseshoe are you gonna stand? Yeah, I think I probably just in terms of my, once going back to range, yeah, I'm on the lower end. I mean, are you standing on one of the ends?

So we're standing in a horseshoe. Are you standing on one of the ends? Back. Kevin, do you have a pen and paper so Hayes can draw this? It feels like it's- You could be between. It's like six people and it's like this? Right.

Or wait, no, there's one person in the front. I guess it will be six, huh? Cause the doughboys will probably have to be there. Oh, you're right. So, so, okay. Triple co-headline. I guess they're in the middle. Yeah, so they're in the middle.

So then I would assume it would be almost this structure, but we got- Stepping forward. I can't stop this feeling. That's bad. Yeah. Do we have to license that in advance to perform it? No, not if it's Agrippella. Cool.

Yeah, but it's gotta be Heggemann, so it's like, I can't stop this feeling deep inside of me. What else can Adam Conover explain to me? And then Adam is like, well actually, you know, or well factually, I guess he does. Well factually. And then the instrumental continues while he's talking about the podcast stuff? Yeah, it's like a instrumental acapella, right?

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is an acapella festival? Hayes kinda made that call and I'm kinda digging it. Well, no, no, no, I just think like, it's not the entire thing, obviously, but like, we've got, we need 14 songs, a couple of them I think are like acapella covers of popular songs that are podcast parody.

Yeah, headgun talent, and just some of the concepts that have drawn the people to the festival that we're having. Now are we? And I'm just noticing no one who plays instruments brought their instruments, so. Yeah, well, that's perfect. You know what you were gonna ask something?

Say what you're gonna say and I'll see if it makes an answer to the question. No, you said are we, you said are we. So my, the logistical question that I have is, is us, Adam Godover and the Doughboys standing in a horseshoe shape, that opens the set? Adam's like a reveal, Adam like rises up on a platform from in front of the stage. So it's kind of like, it feels like it's kind of like Headgum, the musical,

like acapella, because it sounds like we're doing like a medley of different iconic songs. I'm fucked with that. And parody. I'm trying not to be like upset. Okay. With you guys. But it's. Good luck. Like we came here,

like we have a set, you know, like prepared. Right, okay. Like, and it kind of, so like, we agreed to be co-headliners. We're trying to, we're drawing you into our set. It kind of seems like you guys are expecting us to also perform with you. Okay, so that's why you pretend

not to know what a horseshoe was. Yeah, I was just pure rage blinding you Okay, so that's why you pretend not to know what a horseshoe was. Yeah, I was just pure rage blinding you in a way that you could no longer imagine. Like I just feel like I need to like call a spade a spade in terms of what's actually happening. So in terms of the work that we've done preparing for the festival. Okay. Okay, so what are some of your songs, podcasts, parody songs? Yeah, I guess if yours are 14 songs set list love to hear 14 Sog parodies about I'd like to hear nine of them to make sure we have no over I can go back and forth cuz there's not a huge well to draw from so yeah

You want to go? Oh you want to go just? Yeah, you are gonna toggle the titles back and forth. Yeah, okay, well, first of all, I mentioned it at the beginning when I came in here today. But the- First of all, I mentioned it at the beginning when I came in today. Yeah.

That's the first song. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. First of all, I mentioned it when I came here. That's like an audio only. That is the kind of thing people say on podcasts. That's walk first song. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. First of all, I mention it when I come here. That's like an audio only. That is the kind of thing people say on podcasts. That's walk-on music. That's walk-on music.

That's walk-on music. The first song is called Off Mic Conversation. And it's just people referencing things that happened before the recording took place. So I don't think you. Which is a big part of the show. And the second, yeah, after that, that's walk-on. And it could also be about like

sort of an off mic conversation. Like a Mike Mitchell conversation on Doughboys, where people post on Reddit afterwards that they hope he's okay. These guys are obsessed with Doughboys. He didn't say anything, it's just kinda off. It's been a while, yeah. I think, yeah, we'll open with Wokon music

that includes like mental health speculations. Yes. Mental health speculations is really good. Yeah, yeah. Mental health speculations could also be its own song. Diagnosing the specific personality disorders of podcast hosts on Reddit as a listener is a full-time job.

Yeah. And it should have its own song. What's going on with, so it's what's going on. What's going on? What's going on? They seemed blank on this week's episode. Mm-hmm. Do you think they hate doing the podcast? Right. They don't want to do it anymore or something like that. Yeah, but Naomi's singing that obviously. But it's about the Dope Boys. It's us speculating about what what's going on with them. Yeah.

Can we do a song maybe, since it's really about headgum, where we just go through the headgum website and start deleting some of these shows? That's interesting. Maybe it's like a We Didn't Start the Fire. Yeah, totally. Maybe it's time to say goodbye to the Meg Stalter show, you know, and just no longer call it a current show.

Well, that's also like, you guys could have a song about. Where's Meg? Where's Meg, or why won't she come back on our podcast? Yes, yes. It's all speculations about where people are, whether or not they're safe. Can we pull it up, Kevin?

Can we just pull it up on the screen here? Can we just get a look at the,, look at what we're pushing around town. Podcasts. Okay, we have featured podcasts. Okay. Not feeling very featured. Now it's alphabetical. Now it's alphabetical, Now it's alphabetical.

Oh my goodness. Okay. So that's good. So this should be called Dateline 2022. And it's about when the last episode of many of these shows was recorded. Wow. I'm seeing 2022 frequently mentioned. Mm hmm. Yeah. Enemies with Liza Trager. Fake the Nation.

No, Fake the Nation has been recording. 2024. There's you guys. Yeah. Well, I mean, these aren't all right, but it's like Liza Trager. Cause I'm born, get played, can more guys touch grass? Cause Christian Kronen, riddle, riddle. Yeah, and so. That's cool, actually. Yeah.

And now we're up with Ben. But these are all current. Hobby Hunter, that's gone. Hobby Hunter, History of Heat. History of Heat, both, 2022. Inside Voices. Yeah. We didn't keep recording.

Yes. No, we got successful, so we. So, so, so yeah. So we stopped podcasting. Yeah. Yeah. So we got successful. It made schedule stressful.

We didn't keep recording. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. No, we've got careers now, so you cannot hear. Yeah. I feel like they've moved to inaudible content. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I feel like they've moved to inaudible content

That's good You get successful enough to no longer be heard at all Yeah, I'm feeling like and I don't quite have it, but that's why we do this Maybe just a song that speculates on what the newcomers Could be doing or nextulates on what the newcomers could explore next. Do you know about the newcomers? No. You don't know any of the shows.

No. This feels so fucking good. Rondio, why did you try to keep this feeling away from me? Why do you guys know everything about Headgum? Because we are pathetic losers. We are. Don't say that about my friends. Yeah, come on.

Do you mean Headgum or them? I was responding to him saying, because we're pathetic losers, and I said, don't say that. I employed an old piece of sage. All we have is just petty jealousy. That's the only thing that drives, that's the only thing that gets me to the studio

is the fuel that the show runs on. And just this single episode, just you not knowing either of the two shows that are objectively far more popular, at minimum twice as popular on their worst day, is going to keep Hollywood Handbook alive. It is interesting because it's not like I do that with other things.

You guys need to have another venture. Well, it's like there are musicians that I compare myself to. I don't. All all of them Coldplay? I'll tell you I'm like Coldplay obviously The ones that are doing the Super Bowl and stuff. Yeah The ones that are winning, but I think it yeah, but it's not gonna be musicians at the Super Bowl anymore Cuz it's gonna be

You'd agree the JDF column? Jesse David Fox wrote a column and in a normal scenario We would have you in here to talk about doing the Super Bowl Yeah, because if it was gonna be music yes, okay, right, but this year it is gonna be stand-up comedy That's David Fox. No he cracked it. Yeah, well they play big arenas and stuff so like what's the difference? He's saying let's get Matt Reif. It's not really his type of, yeah. Imagine him doing crowd work. Not his first favorite-est type of comedian.

Got it, got it, got it. Not number one, but let's, yeah. First favorite-est. Yeah, no, it's not. But that's interesting. I mean, that is someone with a big following. I think probably for the first year, we've been exploring some comedians

who might be able to do it, but if JDF actually got to just wave his magic comedy wand, which is his pen, by the way, he's a writer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably Burbigs. Gotcha. At the Burbig game, right? Halftime, he comes out.

They would rename it. Starts talking about like his couch. And then everyone is ready for the next half of the game when he's done. Forget it, if they even decide to do it. If the players don't just go like, I've got to hear the rest of this. I got a feeling it's all going to connect back

to the beginning. Would they still, I feel like I would miss the, I don't know, just the huge production of it all. Like I'm thinking about Usher's drum line. But what you don't understand is that like they're- This is Broadway bigs we're talking about here. Yeah, the guy's used to. He's done some big productions.

Yeah. Oh, okay. So he would have that. The pool. Yeah. The pool, right? They would fly the pool in. They're flying the pool in. The stained glass from Thank God for Jokes. Yes. You know what I mean? Is casting like these different colored lights on him.

And then it's like, also, this is somebody who has invited us inside his creative process in a way where it's like, I don't know, and I don't know how you work, but I can tell you how you should work. Journaling is like clay that can later be used to mold art. And so he could go up there

and if inspiration strikes him, he can have a giant digital journal. Whoa, I actually love that. Where he starts sort of writing about the experience of doing the Super Bowl while he's doing the Super Bowl. Wow. And then later you see the special about that and you go, oh, I remember that.

So he need not even speak. He's so big he doesn't even have to speak but he's gonna do the. The burbig. Yeah, burbig. The burbig bowl. The burbig game. Mm-hmm.

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Which is tomorrow. I think we're planning something even bigger. And the Super Bowl, we have a little more time to schedule. It's confusing to me that Head Gum Fest is tomorrow, but it comes out on Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. And I ask why that, they're like,

cause that's like a podcast, like a podcast, like they do it and then it comes out on Tuesday. So the festival is gonna happen. They're batch recording Headgum Fest, yeah. But it's like, but what do you mean? What do you mean the festival comes out? Well, and they're doing it out of order? Yeah.

Like, I don't know why. It's like, seems like for a festival you would just have it be happening. Well, cause it're doing it out of order? Yeah. Like, I don't know why. It seems like for a festival, you would just have it be happening. Well, because it's like a podcast is what they say. But it's not, it's all music. I think they're gonna start doing that with other festivals too. Where people are saying,

this is actually gonna be the first. Well, speak on that, because what does that mean that they're gonna do it with other festivals? It means like, they're not gonna be having the festival just one time, but they're gonna do it with other festivals? It means like they're not gonna be having the festival just one time but they're gonna be doing it in batches. Which festival? Coachella. They're not gonna be doing it just one time. They're gonna do it every year. Some of the festivals are going to start to recur. The big music festivals. They're going to happen over and over and over again.

Sure. Maybe. Yeah. I'll file that under believe it when I see it. And it'll be like a different lineup. They were all slated to happen this year, but rumor has it that they are gonna happen again. Yeah, it's like different bands every time. But how is that like this? I don't know how it's connected to this. And I'm wondering if,

and God bless you for doing the show and thank you so much for being here, if the third moon-o would be really tying it together. Yeah. And, and able to really sink their teeth into some of these ideas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cause it's, it's feeling difficult. It's almost like the third Buddha, that the three of you are supposed to be reading from a script. Yes. And then the third Buddha has lines that you're leaving space for. We are, yeah. And you all are sticking completely to the script.

Yeah, refusing to adjust, even though your cue is missing. We thought that she was going to record those after. Or that she was going record those after. Or that she was gonna zoom in and do her lines and we could wait. There would be a little lag. But we still get it. So we gotta schedule an ADR session. Yeah, she's gonna do an ADR session.

She can do voices, so she could be other people too. So she's the one that does voices. We were told that we were gonna have some voices. There'd be funny voices to make it feel. one that does voices. We were told that we were gonna have some voices. There'd be like funny voices to make you feel. She does funny voices. Is she doing that for Head Gum Fest too? I just wanna say, you all seem pretty sure that she's gonna be better by tomorrow.

Yeah. It's making me wonder a little bit about the nature of this condition. Yeah, the absence that was crucial today. We're all completely prepared, is what I was crucial today. We're all completely prepared is what I was hearing earlier and one of your members is supposedly sick as fuck. Death's door, I was told. That can also be one of the people we speculate about

in the song. Yes, that would be good. Speculating about Joe's health. Yes. That would be good. Speculating about Joe's health. Yes. Okay. I think actually would be aligned with. I could fuck with that. Yeah.

I could fuck with that. Yeah. I could fuck with that. And last time Joe was on the podcast, she sneezed. Maybe that led to her saying she was swollen shut today. Her words. It's a live sense of danger, but you know, also we have her parts recorded, so.

We're off book with our stuff, but she wasn't off book, so. She couldn't have come today. Off book is not a head gum show, so. Let's. Wow, they don't even know. That's awesome. Brother. Except for the, we did it once.

Ace. Oh dude. We're the most famous podcast there is. Pretty much. Cause their friend liked it one time. That's what we need to do. Well, we really need to do it. Cause apparently this friend has a at one time. That's what they said. That's what we need to do. What we really need to do, because apparently this friend has a lot of influence.

He has. You gotta make more friends. Who are some of the friends, the friend who liked our podcast. The friend who made you listen. Who are some of their other friends? Gio. Gio.

Gio. Yep. Zach. Zach. Okay. Ivan. Can we geto? Yeah. Zach. Zach. Okay. Ivan. Can we get Ivan? Christina.

Christina, one of their good friends, yeah. He was on a Headcome podcast, a different one. Ivan? No, Brian was on Keeping Records. Oh. So he's kind of like a front of the network. When did that last record? Years ago.

Yeah. Yeah. So they're not keeping records? Not anymore. Keeping records, not anymore. Do you guys have- Who is hosting it? Wait, wait, wait, we just got an important question.

Do we have merch? I'm so glad you asked. A little sad that you had to ask as well. The hat that Hayes is wearing is the single most successful piece of merch we have ever or will ever be involved in. No, sorry. I didn't say that. Single most successful piece of creation. Yes.

Okay. It's all original creation. Yes. Okay. It's all original IP. Yes. Yes. We own it entirely. We share it with Kevin's wife, but it's- Other than that, you own it entirely. Yes.

It's the hat pack. Every 20 years, a new pack will emerge in Tinseltown. The Rat Pack. Go ahead, go ahead, take it, take it, take it. No, I just, I was gonna ask if this had to do with the blank pack, Brat Pack. Brat Pack. Brat Pack.

The Frat Pack. That would have been great if you had asked that. In this, in this, that would have been really nice. I'm screaming thinking about you asking that. I haven't stopped screaming. In this splintered, fractured, culturally bankrupt society, no new pack has emerged to fill the vacuum in these 2020s. So I guess we gotta do it our damn selves. Hat pack, moon up, hat pack, hat pack, hat pack, to 2020s. So I guess we gotta do it our damn selves.

Hat pack, Muna wearing hat pack hats on stage during all their shows at Headgum Fest. All of our shows at Headgum Fest? Yes. We're doing multiple. I've been told that festivals are gonna start to recur. So this is the latest news. Yes.

Yeah, so I think that we can get possibly a multi-year contract to have these hat pack hats on. Kevin, you got a dozen of them, right? All right. They're in my car, I'll go get some. A hat pack bus. I just wanna, let's. Anya, now's your time, he's gonna leave.

Go ahead and go, go ahead and go. What just recorded? No, no, no, he's gonna leave, now's the time. He actually has hat pack hats? Yeah. Okay, cool. Do we want? But I just wanted, just inquire about this a little bit because we always ask for the hats during the show.

I almost feel like Kevin has some reason that he wants to go to the car for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. In every episode, instead of just bringing that, that's the only explanation for not bringing the hat. Wait, you guys give me all your guests. It always comes up, we always give,

no, not all of them, not all of them. The ones that inquiring. Do you guys wanna share your merch with them as well? Should we do a merch, do we have some here? I'm happy if they want some more merch they can absolutely Holding up each other's jerseys after yeah exactly good game we have some here my No, the the no producers. Oh my god. The show is falling apart. Oh fuck we could do anything

What would we do us any more? Okay? Oh my god, the show is falling apart. Oh fuck. We could do anything. They can't. What would we do? They can't censor us anymore. Thank you. See, the cool thing about- Anya and Kevin both leave W-Y-D. TFW. Your producers leave.

It's nice, right? Take a guess how much it would cost if you had to buy. You don't have to buy it. It's free free. For production? Take a guess how much it would cost. No, no, do not ask that. Do not ask what it costs to produce. No.

Only ask for the retail. Only ask what it costs to purchase. Ask what it probably costs for a fan to buy it. Say 30 or higher. Higher than $30. This is, this has to- Yeah, no, I was gonna say that. It's pretty sturdy, so.

30? Were you responding to Joe? You just said- Yeah, Joe Yeah, I was gonna say that because no one said anything. I think I can't put this on right now because my hair is up. Joe, I was wondering if you were going to be able to negotiate. I'm not gonna do that.

But with with Joe or with with you don't, okay, I understand. I think this is at least, this is 30 at least. Thank you, but you guys can put this on now. I think, probably. This contains a huge message on it. Go ahead and. This might make some change. Become gay.

Yeah. My wife is gonna love this. Do you guys both have wives? Yeah. My question is. What's that like? It's a drag. It's not her fault bro. Am I telling other people this?

Yes. Yeah. So I'm- It's a directive. It's facing out. Unless you want to wear it inside out. Inside out and backwards. Right. It would be backwards, I guess, already. Yeah.

Heavy. Heavy. Yeah. Heavy. It's very thick material. Oh, physically. Yeah. Yeah, it's good blanks.

The hats- Physically, oh yeah. We don't fuck around. The mess is also heavy. Yeah. Now that these lights are in, it is actually safer to wear a hat. It's safer to wear a 30 or 35 and over, not age, cost-wise hat. $30 and up, 35, 36.

So as you're wearing it longer, it's feeling like it's going up, right? Kinda, yeah. Yeah, the more you wear it, actually the more valuable it becomes. Does it say Hollywood Handbook anywhere? No, it doesn't. A lot of hats lose a cube.

That's part of what people are really liking about it. I actually agree. I think when you're doing something so impactful, you don't need to, you don't need your logo on it. It says Muna on it. It says Gay Bollock on the back. It does on the back, and it't need your logo on it. It says gay on it on the back. It does on the back, and it does on the tail. But I'll be honest, I'll be honest, I was talked into that. I think that makes sense to be real.

I was talked into it. You were talked into it. I was called in. And she forgot it. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm not really involved in a lot of stuff. And Joe's not here, so. It sounds like y'all got bullied.

It does, because Kevin couldn't make us and Joe's not here, so. It sounds like y'all got bullied. Yeah. It does, cause Kevin couldn't make us put our podcast name on our hat. First of all, we wouldn't have sold any. Is that, okay. Come on, you're wearing a hat with our podcast name on it? Come on. Think about it for one second.

But the hat pack, hey, what the fuck is that? Oh, nobody knows, okay, well, let's wait. Because it's not anything until the hat. But I was noticing the price was going up as you were guessing, I was saying a lot of hats lose a tremendous amount of their value the second you drive them off the lot. But the hat pack hat actually does become increasingly,

increasingly valuable and expensive. Yeah, it looks cooler actually. Hayes' looks incredible because he wears it so much, he treats it like shit. Yeah. And the fucking thing, I don't know what's coming out of his head, but it's changed colors. Well, call it on the rim, Mr. Margarita over here.

Yeah, wow. Mr. Margarita, that could be one of your songs. I think that is a real ring to it. Salt on the Rim, Mr. Margarita. Well, that'd be about Marty though, right? Yes, Marty Margarita. Yeah. Do you know that one of the founders of HeadGob,

like our boss basically here is named Marty. I just can't tell what you're making up and what is real. Unfortunately, Marty's very cruel. Okay. Yeah, and it is unfortunate. You guys have a, you have a really, like, you have a full internal, you have a lot of internal. All I do is fall for it.

Does the name Jake Hurwitz mean anything to you? I know Jake and Amir. Okay. Well, all we do is we get into a system, we analyze power structures, and then we fail to exploit that knowledge. It kind of feels like you guys work at Headgum, like for Headgum.

Oh, I gotta tell you, so do you. You have to make Headg, so do you. You have to make head gum work for you. I don't know. I guess you're right, but that's not how I think about it. Oh man, okay. Doing the show for charity, I guess. As the only person here who actually does work at HeadGum, it's crazy the way you said that.

It feels like you work at HeadGum derogatory. Yeah. No, no. We live within a sort of- I guess that would be sort of depressing. No, no. These are the people you were trying to protect from us being me.

Yeah. Katie meant that maybe there was a misunderstanding. Yeah. I think you meant that there might be a misunderstanding. That you maybe don't have to. Do you think you meant that there might be a misunderstanding? Do you think there might be a misunderstanding? This is where Joe would be so

Helpful. Instrumental, yes. No, I... She might have thought there might be a misunderstanding. I don't know. She might have... Tell me you might think there might be a misunderstanding. Tell me you might think there might be a misunderstanding. Tell me you might think there might be a misunderstanding.

What we need to do, honestly, is like, at Gum Fest is gonna be a fucking disaster. But all anybody remembers is how you close, right? And we need to come up with what our big encore song is or like our big set finisher to send people home going like, you know what? Like, assuming they're still there, but that they go home going like, you know what? Like assuming they're still there, but that they go home going like, you know what?

That actually kind of fucking slapped. And so I think like if we can just crack that, if we can just get one decent thing out of this, cause this has been not good. Right? Like, I think we can all acknowledge that. Yeah. We failed to make progress

and there might, maybe might have been a misunderstanding. Well, we moved backwards. My bad. We moved backwards from coming in with like a handful of ideas and concepts and now we're just like, just scrambling to seize onto anything at all. But. And so this is all of us.

Everyone's gonna be coming out. Probably should be acapella just because everyone's dragging their instruments out there. It'd be crazy. You'd actually get really hurt. It'd be too loud. Apparently you two don't bring your instruments much either. Yeah, exactly.

They're too loud. Okay, that's fair. That's actually, yeah. I'm sitting here. I fuck with that, exactly. They're too loud. Okay, that's fair. That's actually, yeah. I'm sitting here. I fuck with that, yeah. Okay, so no one volunteered to, well, what's the instruments that you play? Guitar, keyboards, guitar.

Do you think if you play the instrument that means you can do a better like a vocal version of it than someone that doesn't play it I I don't think so I don't know you don't have a better sense of the sounds oh yeah no I I think so you need to switch then in terms of what you do the book you feel like because instrumentation of because you're hearing each other play that you could do one another's instruments? Do a guitar.

Doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing. Wow, so you have sort of a unique playing style. I thought I was supposed to be mimicking Katie's. Wow. No, you are. That's what Hayes is saying, is that it's sort of banjo coded. Yeah.

Doing, doing, doing. Doing, doing, doing. Okay. And can I hear some keyboard or? Um. Okay. They're trying to give me a hint. It is, yeah, it's a plonking.

Doing. Doing. Oh. Doing. Wow, that combined with a doing, doink, doink, doink, doink. Okay, doomba at the same time, yep. Doink, doink, doink, doink, doink, doink, doink, doink. Okay, can we get the HeadGum website back up?

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Baseball. Seems like it's not. We're not gonna be able to even hear that. Well you can't hear it because. Oh, you can hear it? Sure. Don't laugh at me. If you want.

Well, nobody laugh at any of this, I guess. You're a mess of cheer. This whole experience has been like, it's so bad for my nervous system. That was a hate gum podcast.