I Don't Know About That - Constellations

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

In this episode, the team discusses constellations with Colombian astronomer and post-doctoral researcher at École normale supérieure, Jorge Villa-Vélez. Follow Jorge on Twitter @JurgenVilla ! Our merch store is now live! Go to idontknowaboutthat.com for shirts, hoodies, mugs, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They just need sleep. Sleep always gets you into trouble. Does it? What is this theory? No, no, no. He's like, you know my theory. I've never heard this before. No woman's ever gone through a man's phone while he's been awake.

I'll tell you that. You've never been like, I was sitting next to her awake and all this shit went down. No, no, no. No one's ever driven a car off a cliff awake. Well, not unless they did it on purpose. All these things have happened, by the way. A phone hasn't been gone through while I got it.

Showering is another problem. Yeah. You don't like sleeping. You don't like showering. Got it. Yeah, you drive a car right off a cliff. I said that because I'm tired. I had a hard night with the baby.

The baby's sick, so he kept this up all night. And it's one of those things everyone goes, oh, I love sleep. Yeah, you like, you need it. You don't love it. It's always you're searching for it. I've decided all my life is just trying to find somewhere to lie down. That's my entire existence. I'm just walking from find somewhere to lie down that's my entire existence i'm just walking from one place to the other thinking about where i'm gonna lie down next it's where you're gonna

eat and then where you're gonna sleep yeah not even sleep i just want to lie down like people who watch tv sit it upright like what the fuck is wrong with those people i'm lying down all the time really yeah even this podcast. Right now. Middle of the full podcast. You discovered that chair recline like two or three episodes ago. I sit up to eat. Sometimes.

Sometimes. Sometimes your chest is the table. My mother used to just eat off a lazy boy. She lived a whole life like this. and I used to mock her for it, like she's wasted life, and now I see the promise of it. Now it just is life. She just laid there and watched TV for the last 40 years, man. Fucking heaven, right?

But anyway, she would get a plate of food and put it on her stomach like this, just put it on her stomach, and then she'd eat the food back like this, and the food would have to go, and she'd get this hand as the guiding hand and she'd go and she'd eat all of her food like that now i know you're thinking why put your hand up right try turning it around nightmare the cats are food no you're right yeah the system works yeah so she'd have the food on her stomach and the big ass titties were here and she'd go that's how she would that's how she lived the last 40 years it was fucking magic and i used to think that's a good life she had a good life man the tv she would have seen yeah she she was watching reruns man no problem oh yeah i mean it's definitely better now with

all the streaming services oh put a fork a fork in me. I'm done. You know what I mean? I'm one streaming system away from doing nothing. So where are you going to be? On the couch. That's not true. This week you're going to be in

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Eat a meal. The 12th and the 13th, you're going to be at the Mirage. Yeah, I'm going to be at the Mirage. It's easier to find than you think. Mostly Mirage is hard to find, but it's really easy to find. There's a big sign. Yeah, a lot of signs. And it was bought up by the Hard Rock?

No, I think it's still MGM. Yeah, I don't think yet. Not yet? I don't think that's stuff you're supposed to say. Yeah, shut up. It was the news. Oh, okay. They've been talking about it.

August 26th and 27th, you're going to be in Tucson on August 26th. I'm doing casinos. Yeah, Tucson. Coming out to Tucson. My brother's going to be in Tucson on August 26th. I'm doing casinos. Yeah, Tucson. Coming out to Tucson. My brother's going to be in town. That's an amphitheater. He's coming out. It's outdoors, is it?

I don't know. It says an amphitheater, so let's see here. AVA amphitheater. The next one is the next day you're in Agua Caliente Casino. That's near Palm Springs. What does it mean again? You figured out what it meant. It means land of the tiger.

Yes. Or hot water. Yeah. Yeah. It's outdoors in Tucson. That's going to be. Woo. What's the show time starts seven.

Summer loving. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's covered part of it's covered, but it's, it's outdoors. It's,

it's, it's, there's a huge section that's covered. So I'm assuming that's probably where no one's going to sit on the lawn there's a lawn back there you can't sit on well come out and see me there's still tickets come out and see me in Tucson

what else you got to do in Tucson I'm not shitting on your town but like it's amphitheater time it's summer come out and enjoy it before the snow comes yeah so that'll be August August 26

I'm going to do the last man on earth tour where I see all the things from the last man on earth that's smart when did you decide that I'm going to do the last man on earth tour where I see all the things from the last man on earth. That's smart. When did you decide that? I'm going to make the tour. So the tour is in the afternoon book tickets to do that. I'll be driving a little bus around. I'll show you the house. That's it. You know what there is in Tucson. There's like an airplane graveyard there. It's like really big highway. I think that's a, that's a, an attraction there i'll tell you right now tucson attractions what do you think they are man i had i've done tucson one night i had a really good night out there i that's how i judge towns about my nights out i had a good night there good town looking

forward to it come and see me tucson i dare you yeah i i i did i think i did I did Tucson with you that time yeah yeah and I hooked up with a girl there and she went to bed yep good times wow

don't say that are you coming to the show as well no oh well I was saying you won't get another go at her if she bloody if she hears that you

telling everyone about how she pissed the bed I don't think she wants to talk to me I think I don't think Forrest wants another shot I had to like wake her. I don't think Forrest wants another shot. I had to wake her up. I was like, why is this bed

so moist? Moist or? I was like, alright, hey. Gotta go. So you had a few drinks? Yeah. Or she just woke up next to you and she was scared. We both had some drinks. Anyways, good time.

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here's some things you're wearing golden gay talk from Kmart here's some things you can do in Tucson, by the way. You can go to the world's largest military aircraft cemetery. That sounds great. There can't be two of those.

That must be the one you mentioned. Yeah, yeah. No, they're competing. A lot of dead aircraft there. Then there's the Mini Time Machine Museum of Miniatures. No. Miniature art that tells an enormous story. No.

And the Lisa Frank factory. Ooh, Lisa Frank. Wait, what's Lisa Frank? She's the cousin of Anne Frank. No. And she didn't hide that well. She had a factory. She was out of here.

Who was Lisa Frank? Lisa Frank was like, she was an artist. And like back when I was growing up, she did all these like really colorful artwork with like animals and all that stuff. And it was on everybody's like colorful artwork with animals and all that stuff. And it was on everybody's folders and binders and all that stuff for school. So this factory, it's the remains of a one bright and booming factory. This is Atlas Obscura.

Do you ever go on that website? Yeah. Atlasobscura.com. If you're ever traveling anywhere and you just want to see just off the beaten path, odd things, you go there, you type in what city you're in and it tells you like kind of stuff like that to do. Kind of like this, Jack. Oh.

I'll be missing that. And don't forget to go to the Rattlesnake Bridge also. What's that? It's a giant metal snake bridge that helps pedestrians cross a busy highway.

It looks like a snake. Wow. You got to hit that up. Yeah, we missed that. Hit that up in Tucson. That didn't even make it into the last man on earth

you ever visited. It crumbled. How close is Tucson to Phoenix? Three hours maybe? So if you're in Phoenix, drive over to Tucson. Amphitheater, amphitheater, amphitheater. Show, show, show. Tickets sailing fast. Is that low ticket

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Yes, no. Yes, no. Judging a book by its cover. Boom. All right, now in the script room, headphones. I detect an accent, although you haven't spoken on the podcast yet, but you just said hello before you started recording. Are you American?

No. How's that going to help you guess what he's here to talk about? Well, that counts out 330 million people. Yeah, but doesn't he count subjects? There's only 7 billion people on the planet. You're not trying to guess who he is, you're just trying to guess the subject. No, but trying to guess who he is. You're just trying to guess the subject. No, but if I guess who he is, then I could go, oh, Jorge the mechanic. Okay, true. Are you a mechanic? No.

Okay. Do you work in the, are you a professor? Do you work at a university? Yeah, that's pretty close. Pretty close? Either you work at a university? Yeah, that's pretty close. Pretty close? Either you work at a university or you don't. Pretty close. You work at a school.

He's a researcher. Researcher, yeah. I know for sure. Yeah, but yeah. We've done space. Well, I'll just think of all the topics we've already done. Yeah, yeah. Just put that down.

Through elimination. Yeah, there you go. I just looked at that poster. We've done bees. Looking around the house. Yeah, yeah. This is something that I don't think you're going to know about, but you'll know a little bit about it just because I think everybody knows

something at least, like one thing. You're a professor of boobs. I was going to give you more of a hint there too. Okay. Like, for instance, you may be able to identify one of these, but not, not,

not the second one. Well, let me, I'm not giving a good hint. I mean, space is okay. Actually, space is okay.

And you, you learn about them as a kid, probably, but space is okay. You're on the right track. You're on the right track. You're on the right track. All right. So you're involved space.

Do you involve planets? Yeah. Okay. Are we talking about the solar system? Okay. We're talking about moons, suns, meteorites. Yeah. A little bit bigger than that

the Milky Way the universe well okay yeah it's not bigger than the bloody universe so you'd look up into the sky

and maybe you would be with your son and you'd show him something and say hey that's the sun at night

you're gonna look up in the sky and you're gonna be look up in the sky. Constellation. There you go. Constellations or constellations? It's constellations. Constellations.

It's constellation. It's already going well. Are we going to talk about people's signs and shit? No, no, no. That was astrology. Astrology is rubbish. We did an episode on that already. I mean, there are zodiac constellations.

It is tangentially related, but we're not going to be talking about that. I'll give you all the information I know now. The Southern Cross. The end. Yeah, okay. Well, maybe I'll give you a hint in one of the categories here for you. So, Jorge Villalba lives in Paris, where he works as a postdoctoral researcher at. I might mispronounce it.

Why don't you just tell him to say it? You want to say it? The name of the place? It's the École Normale Supérieure de Paris. Yep. Yep. That's exactly what you were going to say. In Paris.

He studies shocks and their interaction with the interstellar medium through observations and models. He's involved as a participant in the Skype a Scientist program that we're very fond of. And on Twitter, you can find him at J-U-R-G-E-N-D-I-L-L-A. That's Jurgen Villa, I guess. That would be the way of saying that. Yes, it's a. We'll put that up there for you guys to follow him on there. And tell us a little bit about how you got to in this field and interested in this.

And yeah. Yeah. So, well, can I, can I say everything about me right now? Sure. I mean, we only have an hour or so, but everything about, you know, five minutes, a couple minutes. It's going to be pretty short. Okay.

So I'm Colombian. I come from the city of Medellín. There I did my bachelor's in astronomy. I was working with galaxies and dark matter. To continue my studies, I decided to go to the Netherlands because I earned a scholarship over there. So I did my master's there and I basically was working on exoplanets and radio galaxies. My dream was always to stay in academia, so I decided to pursue a PhD in astrophysics. And I found a position in Marseille, it's the south of France.

And I did my PhD there during three years. I finished last November, so I'm a doctor in astrophysics now. And I started a postdoc research position here in Paris, working on shocks. In Marseille, I was working mostly with galaxies also, but I was working on stellar dust and emission lines in galaxies and star formation. Did you already know how to speak French before you got there or did you have to learn that and then have to talk

about planets and shit? That's a nice question. No, I didn't know any French when I arrived here. But when I was in Marseille, so in the Netherlands, it was pretty easy because everyone speaks English. Yeah. So you don't really need to learn Dutch, which is quite complicated also. And the Dutch are very excited to speak English to you,

where the French are not excited to speak English to you at all. Exactly. That's what happens. So when I was in Marseille, I needed to learn French. And I was really motivated because I wanted to learn the language. I really liked it. And I learned French during my three years of PhD. But you know Spanish.

That's pretty close to French, I think, right? It helps or something. I don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, it is. It is pretty close, but it doesn't really help because French is, they have really weird sounds. So it doesn't really help knowing Spanish.

Est-ce que je peux aller de toilette? Si. Mais oui, si tu veux. How often do you say, oh? I don't think that often. Do we be calling you doctor, by the way? I'm sorry. I don't want everyone to get in trouble. No. Okay.

No, it's okay. I don't really want to get in trouble No It's okay I don't really like titles I'm a doctor but that's on the paper Yeah and it's about space like if they call for a doctor on a plane you don't put your hand up You're like stellar dust

This isn't related to me This person's got a heart attack I could talk about quasars I don't even know if you can okay so I'm going to ask Jim a bunch of questions about constellations and things related to them and when we're done when he's done answering those you're going to

grade him on 0 through 10, 10 being the best on his accuracy, Kelly's going to grade him on confidence, I'm going to grade him on etc we'll add those all together 21 through 30, 10 being the best on his accuracy. Kelly's got a great amount of confidence. I'm going to grade him on et cetera. We'll add those all together. 21 through 30, the Big Dipper. You never heard that one? I know of it, but I don't know what it looks like.

11 through 20, the Big Mac. Zero through 10, the Big Bopper. He's dead. All right. What are constellations? They're a grouping of stars that that you can sort of you know go those group go together and draw lines in between them and people can use them to uh get directions or whether they know whether they're pointing north or east or west or okay what is a star a star is a sun in a um in a solar system that's not ours.

It's away from us. So it's a sun in the distance. Okay. How many official constellations are there? Official? In the universe, there'd be billions and trillions. I think we're the ones making constellations. Yeah, the ones that we just made?

Yeah. 76. 76, good number. Who is mostly credited with the creation of constellations. Yeah. The ones that we just made. Yeah. 76. 76. Good number. Who is mostly credited with the creation of constellations? Oh, they, he,

he was, he won the first constellation prize. It'd be better. Consolation already. Um, uh, so who would be the person that would be, uh, arbitrage? would be Albatross. Who?

Albatross? You'll find out when you see the answer. Albatross. Are more constellations found in the northern sky or the southern sky? You know both skies. I know both skies. I'll tell you this about the southern and the northern. The moon looks better in the south.

Its face is the right way around. It's better in New York City. Yeah, but the moon has a real face to it when you're in the southern hemisphere. It's because of the water. Yeah, it's because of the water. Jorge, you grew up in the southern hemisphere, right? No.

Because my city of Colombia is on the northern hemisphere. Oh, boom. Wait, because I thought the equator was above south of... No, no, no. Yeah, the equator cuts Colombia... It cuts in Colombia.

In the south, yeah. Wow, that's close. That's country and a half, right? So what was the question? Are more constellations found in the northern sky or southern sky? I'll say the northern. Okay. Name five major constellations.

Big Dipper. Good one. Yeah, you got it. Big Mac. Southern Hemisphere. Southern Hemisphere. I know the Southern Hemisphere. Love that constellation.

Southern Cross. Yeah. Any more? Pisces, Virgo, Aquarius. Don't bring those up again on the show. People got upset. The one that looks like the crab. We're talking about science today.

Yeah, but the stars still exist. I'm a crab. What is an asterism? It's when you take steroids, they put it next to your record an asterisk if you name the most constellations but you were on drugs they put an asterism next to you yeah okay is the big diipper a constellation? Sure. What is the name of the brightest star? Michael Jackson's been dead for a while.

The brightest star, the name of it. Movies, they talk, I mean, a big star. The North Star. Okay. I think that's it. What is Orion also known as? Orion is another constellation. You don't get that, do you? Don't add these.

These don't count as points. Orion. Yeah. What is Orion also known as? The Big Dipper. Okay. Many cultures have discovered constellations. What was their purpose?

You named one earlier. Yeah, getting directions, speaking to the gods where they think they can see things, when you join the dots type of thing. Other stupid activities that people do. Nothing not stupid? Apart from direction. No, there's people who have looked up at it and gone, oh, that planet's closer to us. That might have something. We could move there, oh, that planet is closer to us. That might

have something. We could move there one day, but it's pretty stupid. There are numerous theories about why the tales of Ursa Major and Ursa Minor are so long. What is one? Ursa Major. Put them in the list. Ursa Major.

See, this is how I feel about stars, right? You look at them very nice move on you don't think it's amazing that there's all these other oh I do I do but I don't enjoy views and so yeah I know yeah I just don't get it but like if I go to

a place that doesn't have a lot of city light and I can see a bright sky I go it's pretty cool yeah I like that but I don't go and that one I only recently found out we could see planets. See, I thought that blew your mind and you stared at it for a long time. I was on mushrooms. It was your bachelor party. Your bachelor party.

You thought you were messing with us. Yeah. I didn't know you could see Mars and shit. I didn't know any of that. He's like, you're messing with me. Let's move on. We got a couple more questions. I'll talk to Jorge about this.

What is the largest constellation by area? Russia. What factors determine whether you'll be able to see a constellation or not? City lights. In the country, you can see them better because the lights are brighter. Without light pollution. What is the easiest constellation to find? For me, it's the Southern Cross.

Okay. Due to its position in the sky, this constellation is mostly visible in Earth's southern hemisphere. In the U.S., it is only visible for short periods of time and only in the southern states like Texas. What is its shape like? Southern Cross. You got that one right?

What is the North Star's formal name? Mr. North Star. The third. No, Dr. North Star. I'm being silly. Jorge, how did Jim do in his knowledge? He studied his people. We can talk about more stuff than this too.

How did Jim do in his knowledge of these questions I asked him on Constellations? I think he's not doing that bad. Quite interesting questions. Our guests are so nice. You got a two at best. I'm very intelligent.

He got a couple good, I would say. So two. We'll give him a two. What do you give him in confidence, Kelly? I'll give him a couple. So two. All right. We'll give him a two. What do you give him in confidence, Kelly? I'll give him a four. I really liked the asterism answer. Six.

All right. I'll give you a six just so you stay alive. You're not the Big Bopper. You're Big Mac. I like Big Macs. Big Mac's good. Big Mac's from my childhood. It's the only McDonald's thing.

No, the bread's very thin. The bread's very thin. You get rid of the pickle, you put an extra slice of cheese. It's my order. So don't worry. I asked Jim, what are constellations? He said a grouping of stars that you know, that you can, you know. And then he did some stuff with his hands. People can use them to get directions.

Don't even worry about the direction. We'll get to that later. What are constellations? You can tell us what you think constellations are since you're the expert. Okay, so constellations. He was right when he was talking about the constellations because it's just like some kind of patterns that we draw on the sky connecting the stars just to delimit some zones in the sky and try to guide ourselves you know it's just like a map it's like what we do on earth but on the sky so try to guide ourselves. It's just like a map, it's like what we do on Earth, but on the sky.

So that's pretty much a constellation. It's just like putting all the dots together, which are the stars and creating figures in the sky. But maybe we can jump ahead then. So why are they important? Even if we touch on some other questions, or are they important? If you know what the North star is you can move on they are pretty important because first uh that's how we locate ourselves as astronomers on the sky

so if you want to do an observations you you need to know where you are so there are some coordinates but you also say like okay i'm in the constellation of Virgo for example, or this is the star in constellation of Sagittarius, things like that. So we're still using astronomy. I don't know the answer to these. Yeah, they are. We have three points. The crab and all that.

Cancer. Any other reasons that are important? Or that's it? Just for astronomy? Also for guidance. So you can, if you know the constellations well, you can say where is the north, where is the east. You can know what time of the year you are, if it's spring or autumn or summer, things like that. So you can know about a lot of things of daily life. Yes, like a very early calendar.

Oh, people use it as calendars then. Yeah, exactly. I go snow, winter. That's your calendar? Yeah, yeah. Falling leaves, autumn. What if you live in LA and there's no snow? I can tell when it's a bit colder.

It's a little rainy. Jacket weather. Yeah, I'm wearing a jacket. What if you live in Colombia where there are no snow. Oh, I can tell when it's a bit colder. It's a little rainy. Jacket weather. Yeah, I'm wearing a jacket. What if you live in Columbia where there are no seasons? Oh, you don't even know what side of the border

you're on, mate. There's no seasons in Columbia. There's nothing. You must have a wet season. Down the equator. Oh, I'll tell you how you do it.

Christmas tree. Christmas tree consol Christmas tree constellation. That's good. Okay. What is a star? Jim said a sun and a solar system that's not ours. So he was partially correct. I would say that there is a more broad definition like a star for us in astronomy,

just like a massive object composed of gas that is just burning. So it's making fusion. So it's turning the hydrogen into helium. And while it's doing this, burning the hydrogen, it's liberating some energy. So our sun is a star, and the other stars that we see in the sky are like our sun, bigger or smaller than our sun, and they are far, far away. So he was partially correct on that. Yeah, so if you were in another universe and you were seeing our sun, it would just look like a little star.

Exactly. If you are in a different location in our galaxy, you can see our sun as part of a constellation, and you can see it like a small dot. Yeah, I was thinking about this today because we were doing this topic about, I think we just take for granted that the sun is what gives us light on this planet when right because it's so far away but yet that's like what illuminates everything and it's it makes everything do you take that for granted i don't think people think about that that often

you know far away the sun is and it's actually warming our planet that's pretty crazy have you been outside today it's not far enough no i know i know i get that but i'm just saying you know just it's i don't know i don't i sometimes when you just go out to saudi arabia and keep on going thank you son we would be dead without it we wouldn't be alive i what you're saying. It just shows how small we are. Because if from another galaxy you look at our sun and it just looks like a tiny star, that's fucking insane. But you can feel the sun here. It's like being next to a fire. You're like, oh, I can feel the fire. And then the sun is how many millions of miles away?

I don't even know. I don't know the answer. How far is the sun? How far away is the sun? Do you know, Jorge? Well, in astronomy, we use really weird units. So we would say that the sun is at one astronomical unit. Wow.

That doesn't have to be 10,000 rowboats. That would be like 150 million kilometers. Holy cow. From the earth. And it's heating us. That's crazy. What is amazing about this? I don't find this amazing.

Imagine you started. 93 million miles away. Imagine you started a campfire and you're like, yeah, go 93 million miles away from here and see if you can feel the heat. You're not going to. Yeah. You wouldn't want to get closer to it.

Yeah. Oh, I'm just saying. Pretty amazing. Think about it. Think about it, guys. Life is beautiful.

How many. Cavemen were amazed by the sun yeah we should be still amazed by it too it's pretty amazing we are amazed by it we got doctors who measured it it's one unit away we have light I really think there are people that actually think there's just a switch

that people flip we'll turn on a light today how many official constellations are there Jim said 76 there are people that actually think there's just a switch that people flip. We'll turn on a light today. How many official constellations are there? Jim said 76. Officially, we have 88. It's the International Astronomical Union, which is a

non-governmental organization of astronomers around the world that basically gathers together to decide things about astronomy, but they also gather together to promote astronomical research or outreach or the education and development through global cooperation. Can we make a new one or are they all done?

Or is anyone allowed to make one? Am I allowed to go that's Jim's triangle? No. Why not? Don't laugh at my idea. I'm trying to get in the history books, mate. He didn't say anything. He didn't talk to you.

Why can't he make a new one? I think, I don't know. I'm sure astronomers want it. Who just shapes with dots, mate? I'm sure astronomers want it, mate. He just laughed at you. Why couldn't he make a new one? I think, I don't know. I'm sure astronomers want to make it. Who just shites with dogs, man? I'm sure astronomers want to make it. They could. They could. They could.

So when they're made, is it just a drawing? Or is there like some rhyme or reason to it when they were actually? No. So what they did is basically for this, what they do is that they take the original ones, the original constellations that are like 48. But maybe that would be some of the questions, I believe. So there are some original constellations from ancient times. So they took that together. They decided where to cut it in the sky

coordinates, which are the declination and the right ascension that are similar to the coordinates that we use on Earth that are latitude and longitude. And they just decided where to put it exactly and how many of them they wanted to put there. So it's just historical and arbitrary because they want it. Is there a maximum amount and minimum amount of stars to be in a constellation?

No. No, no, no. There's not a minimum or a maximum because it's based on what you see. So you can have constellations with a lot of stars or you can have constellations with less stars depending on where they are, if they are close to the plane of the Milky Way or if they're above or below. Are there stars that cross over with other constellations?

They're involved in a few? Stars that cross over? No, because they are constrained to a portion of the sky. But I couldn't do like a big one that's the whole sky and call it Jim's Cumshot, right? Something like that, right? Yeah. I could own all of them.

Yeah. All right. You need to ask the International Astronomical Union. Wait, what does Jim have to do to do that? Jim, listen up. You can do that. What do I have to do? You have to ask the International Astronomical Union

and they will have to decide if they want that. Why have they got all... I'll start a rival competition. I'll be like the new golf thing happening in Saudi Arabia. Like the live golf? Yeah, I'll just start my own astronomical thing. You guys. You don't even know what it is. They're like FIFA.

They try to run everything in the sky. Yeah, my own one with Jim's cam shot and Jim's triangle. They're all Jim's. Very easy to remember. How do you get there? Just follow the old triangle. Okay, who is mostly credited with the creation of constellations?

Is it Albatross? I think it is. So for the creation of the constellations... Galileo! Galileo! I wouldn't say that anyone created the constellations because since humans are on Earth, we have been watching the stars and trying to draw patterns on the sky.

So ancient civilizations, indigenous people, they have been doing this for a long time. But we are kind of dominated by the Greek history, right? So most of the constellations that we know are based on books from Greek philosophers like Aratus or Ptolemy that they wrote

some books to tell you where are the stars and which constellations are you seeing. Who the fuck's Galileo then? What did he do? He's from the Queen song. I don't know. I don't know. Galileo? He feels like he was one of the blokes. I don't know. I don't know. Galileo. He feels like he was one of the blokes. I thought Galileo was, I don't know.

He studied speed and velocity, gravity and free fall. Galileo was studying velocity, the free fall, the gravity. He was doing a lot of experiments on that, but he also was looking with his telescope, right? So he basically did a lot of drawings about the planets, about how things looked through the telescope. So you're in the right ballpark. Yeah, he was an astronomer. So the Greek philosophers.

Yeah, I forget, he said Ptolemy. I forget, he said Ptolemy, Artus, or I don't know. Albatross. Aratus. Aratus and Ptolemy. Spenocopter. All that Greek mythology.

Spenocopter and Gyro. The Greek mythology, like all of those stories are told with the constellations in the sky. So there's stories that line up with each of these constellations. Exactly. Are more constellations later.

So there's not only like the pattern on the sky, like the constellation, but it's a story that you tell with the constellation. It's the Greek mythology that you tell there. Could I be correct in saying that none of these things would be found if we found television first? They were the original soap opera. These were the stories. You know what I'm saying?

It's like Galileo was looking through his telescope and then doing all this. If he had a few episodes of Friends, I reckon none of this would be done. Pretty much. I do agree. You're just so bored. How do you think the television's going to get invented without these other people?

No, I'm just saying that was invented first. But how? Alien technology, how everything was invented. Oh, okay, sorry. I didn't know. Are more constellations found in the northern sky or the southern sky? Jim said the moon looks better in the south. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that. The moon looks better in the south, but it's the northern

that's got the more constellations. So, first, I haven't been to the southern hemisphere, but I'm pretty much sure that the moon looks the same as in the northern hemisphere. It doesn't. It's the other way

around. It's upside down. Yeah, it's upside down, but it's the same kind of, how to say, like when it goes out of the, above the horizon. It's on the same side of it, yeah. Just upside down. Yeah, but it's upside down, the craters are in a different position. You like it better. The craters are in a different position and it looks more like a face in the southern hemisphere.

A man on the moon. Ever since I moved to America, I'm like, why is his fucking face upside down? Yeah, you're like, this man sucks. Okay, I give you that. I give you that. So it's much better. I accept that it's still round, right?

It's not like the southern hemisphere where you go, oh, the triangle in the sky. So are there more in the northern or the southern sky constellations? So there are more in the... So you have around 36 constellations in the northern sky and you have 52 in the south. We got television later than you guys. You have more in the south because the northern constellations are really old, right? So it's the Greeks and everyone who was living in the north who saw that. But only after, I don't know, the 15th and 18th century when people started going to the south,

they discovered that the stars there were different. So they had to create new constellations that are constellations from the 15th century. So they created something slightly different, not based on mythology, but mostly on things that they knew by the time, like the constellation of the telescope, the constellation of the microscope, the constellation of the pigeon, things like that. And they are pretty small. Pigeons and microscopes.

Who the fuck, all the birds in the world. Because that's what I've always thought about the Zodiac signs. I go go it's a guy with a bow and arrow no it's not it's fucking five stars and you've really used your imagination on this one like like the pigeon why don't you make it a dove or an eagle something exciting pigeons are faster They save the world, yeah. I translated that as the pigeon, but probably I'm wrong. I don't know. In Latin, it's a columba. But I think it's

a pigeon. I don't think it's a dog. Did the Aboriginals name any? Did they have any when they found Australia? When they found Australia? When they sailed over to Australia? Yeah, of course. At least, well, I know that in Australia,

a lot of the indigenous people that were living there, they used to look at the sky and they had their own names. And they have their own constellations, you know, that are different patterns, completely different from what we know nowadays. So there is some history about that. I don't know the names. The Dundee,

the Fosters, all of them. Didgeridoo. I don't know how they used to call them. The Didgeridoo would be an easy consolation. Just three stars in a row. You just need two stars actually. It would probably be the Dreamtime is what it was. The Dreamtime, yeah.

That would have been part of the religion the dream time was a religion from the aboriginals so we can do what we can do one day I think I know a few dream time stories it's a bit of bullshit it's like Greek mythology but now they sort of acknowledge it's a bit of rubbish it says here dove and pigeon are used interchangeably

when you talk about the genus Columba so there you go dove and pigeon very close interchangeably when you when you uh talk about the genus columba so there you go all right dovin pigeon yeah they're very close yeah yeah uh five major constellations you said big dipper southern cross pisces virgo aquarius i guess you got a point there huh yeah well you guys at least well there i don't know if how can you define major but yeah I mean they're

they're fucking sons miles away they're all major first and they don't want us that one's not very major the big dipper is not one I'll show up for the next podcast and spar us away outside staring at the sun nah I don't stare at it

I stare at the side like Kimbo what is an asterism staring at the sun. Nah, I don't stare at it. I stare at the side. I can't, I can't move. What is an asterism? Is that when you take steroids and they put it next to your record? Asterism? Nope. So this has to be with the,

with the, with the big deeper, for example. So as, as Kelly was saying, the big deeper is not a, it's not a consolation. It's an asterism. And why is that? It's because asterisms do not belong to one constellation.

It's another thing that you created to connect different stars in the sky that can be between different constellations and create another pattern. So Jim's cum shot is an asterism. You can say that. Wait, the Big Dipper is not a constellation? No. It's a part of Ursa Major which is the constellation.

I feel like the Big Dipper was just something Americans made up. Yeah, probably. And Little Dipper. I also was like, because I could find the Big Dipper and Little Dipper and I'd always be like why are they called a dipper it's just like a pot it's like a spoon

it's like a thing a little ladle yeah no but it's like a roller coaster isn't it no it's like it'd be like something you cook pasta on a stove with a handle

I don't know yeah exactly like a dipper I don't know how many have been named by Americans whether it be Native Americans

or recently like How many Americans? Jim's come shot. I don't know how many of them were named by Americans, to be honest. But if we're talking about asterisms, I think the Big Deeper was probably people from England. Really? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. They would have called it the large plonker. I think they have a weird word in their English for that. So they don't call it the Big Dipper, but they did something that it's like a word. Blunkers are weird. Yeah.

Just do a big spoon, little spoon. I didn't think of them as a spoon. I always thought of them as a pot. I thought that was Lidl. More like Lidl. Yeah. Looks like a pot to me. What do you think a pot looks like?

A pot is just like a dipper. A little dipper. So the Big Dipper is not a constellation. What is the name of the brightest star? The North star. Did Jim get that correct? No, that's not the brightest one. So the brightest one, it's a star that it's in Orion and it's called Sirius. Ah, Sirius.

Or the clouds. But, but, uh, my first first answer when someone asks you which is the brightest star uh i i tend to say like the sun because our sun is the closest star to us so it's the brightest got it so so there is this weird definition that we have in astronomy that is brightness and brightness depends on the distance so if you have the sun and Sirius, Sirius is more powerful than the sun but Sirius is really far away so it looks not so bright but the sun is super close so it looks super bright but if you put it at the same distance Sirius will look brighter than the sun. Now, you know that whole thing that you always, you know, you tell kids that some of the stars have already exploded,

some of the suns have already exploded, but we're just seeing the light and then, you know, in time that star will go away. Is there any that are about to go away that you can give us the insight on? Well, we usually look at that in different galaxies, like galaxies different from the Milky Way, that it's our galaxy. So when you have observations and you take a picture of a galaxy, you can see a star exploding. So you have a supernova explosion in the galaxy.

So we already observed that. Generally, when we talk about our galaxy, we astronomers, we don't really like when people doing outreach say like, oh, look at the star, probably the star is already there and the light is traveling to us, right? Because that's not quite accurate. But what is true is that the light that we are seeing is the light in the past of the star. Right. But if it's the part of the star, when will that light run out? Like, is there any running out?

Here's a question for you. Any new stars? Do we ever get new ones? Do you ever look up and go, oh, new star? Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Yeah. There is something that is

called the star formation in galaxies, and it's a physical parameter that we use in astronomy to say how many stars of a given mass are born in a galaxy every year. So you have these big galaxies that are

forming stars quite rapidly. So they form, I don't know, 20 stars per year. So with the observations, you can see where are some star formation regions where stars are being born. And same in our galaxy, you can observe in the star formation regions and you can see the stars being born. So, like, if stars are dying and stars are being born, will there be a time where we'll have new constellations?

Indeed, yes, that's true. You will have new constellations, but stars are also moving around the the center of uh of our galaxy right so uh stars move and constellations get distorted in millions uh well i don't know if millions of years but yeah in in several years uh the constellations that we observe uh are not going to be the same because they have something that it's called the proper motion which is like like they moving in different directions around the the galaxy can you stars just pop up anywhere could we get pop up one that's just like a mile above like antarctica out of nowhere and be like oh that's not going to be good um i don't know uh i i don't know what you mean i don't know. I don't know what you mean by pop-up.

Like it suddenly appears. Yeah, like how are stars born then? Keeping in mind Jim doesn't know anything about stars. How are star babies made? Yeah. How are they made? Are they from eggs? The star drops them off.

So they are made in stellar nurseries that are like big molecular clouds. So they cannot really pop up like that out of the blue. But you have specific zones on the galaxy with gas and dust that will collide and they will form the stars. So they are called stellar nurseries. So they are born there. And from there, they start going away and they will form the stars. So they are called stellar nurseries. So they are born there and from there they start going away and they start traveling. How long has our star got? What's the estimate on that one?

It depends on the stellar mass. So small stars live longer than massive stars. And a star like our sun lives around. I think our sun has 4,500 million years and it's half of its life. So we have still more, I don't know, 5,000 million years to go. But stars that are really, really big, they can evolve rapidly, and they can die in a couple of million of years. So our planet's going to die before the sun does, right? We're beating the sun.

I think so, because probably we are going to destroy it first yeah the planet will still be here but fingers crossed it's interesting everything's been like that's the same thing with humans like or like dogs like bigger dogs don't live as long and yeah they're like humans in the side they're born in a nursery then they they grow up and leave the house leave the nest so that means there's a there's a new sun somewhere and and then eventually there'll be life and form on a planet. So millions and millions of years from now, there'll be another person like me doing a podcast.

It's like, whoa. How many inhabited planets do you predict? I cannot really say because you have a lot of stars, you have a lot of galaxies in the universe. So you cannot really predict how many planets will have life. But the only thing I can say is that I do believe that there's probably some kind of life out there that we haven't seen yet. But yeah, definitely there's something out there.

But I cannot give you a out there. I always go intelligent life form. I don't even need to find intelligent life form. I just want to find life form. Group of idiots. There's just like Lizard Island. I like that too. We always write science fiction where there's these aliens visiting

us, but what if we're going to be the first? However far from now we visit other um like another planet somewhere in another solar system and then we show up and they're all just idiots i've got a theory on this that we may be the smartest we may be the smartest life form in the universe but my theory is this right so as So as we were saying, we're destroying the planet. We're not really destroying the planet. We're destroying our life on the planet, right? So our life on the planet goes, right?

Now, we're only destroying the planet really because we're so fucking smart that we've made medicines and stuff for us to make us live longer and all that type of stuff so that we're becoming- That's not why we're destroying. We've become a- That's because we're too good. We've become a – we've invented cars. We've invented jets. We've invented fossil fuels.

We've invented all these things that destroy. Kendall Jenner just took a flight from Van Nuys to Camarillo the other day. That was the nearest stop. Yeah, a three-minute flight. Yeah, yeah. So things like that are destroying the planet. I've done a million miles on Delta to tell dick jokes, man. You've killed the planet.

Like to tell dick jokes. I've killed the planet. To tell dick jokes. I've ruined this planet. You've been a gun controller. Anyway, so my theory is that we've made all these things that can destroy, unless we can make something that fixes it, like we get to that level of intelligence, but we're always going to be overpopulated. There won't

be enough housing. There won't be enough thing. There won't be enough water. There won't be enough everything. I know the planet really tried really hard with COVID. we got you now we're like yeah we're fine yeah so i figured that if you got to be an intelligent life force where you could make your medical so good that your aliens your people get to live for fucking ever you probably killed your planet as well that's true then you just go to the i reckon like you'll find a nice clean planet and it'll just be filled with just like animals rolling around like like blobs oh you guys have done artwork here we dry with our own feces they wouldn't even say feces we dry with our poo i don't think they would speak

english probably poo poo is money here yeah like there'd be a fish planet that's just all water a fish planet would kick ass that would never get problems it's like the new Avatar movie so the brightest star was Sirius not the North Star and then what is Orion also known as Jim said the Big Dipper so I guess the Big Dipper is part of Orion

no the Big Dipper is part of the Ursa Mayor basically translates to the great bear. But Orion is known as the warrior or the great huntsman. He was... So this is the part where history comes to play a role because Orion was this warrior

and he used to have two dogs and one day he was just walking quietly and he found a scorpion and he got stung and he died and the gods they say okay oh he died so let's put Orion on the sky and let's put the two dogs on the sky and let's put the Scorpio on the sky so when you look at the sky you see all the constellations together you see the constellation of Scorpius that is behind the constellation of Orion

and you have the two dogs the Canis Majoris the great dog and the Canis Minor the small dog all together in the same part and the the small dog all together in the same part of the sky. So that tells you a history about the mythology.

That's nice. They put these dogs up there with him. And next to him there's a hot chick that he wanted. That's Ursa. That's Ursa too. What? I was trying to go over the name. Many cultures discovered constellations. What was their purpose? that's ursa that's ursa too or what i was trying to go over the name didn't do it many cultures discovered constellations what was their purpose so we did this one yeah at the beginning yeah we

talked about navigation calendars right mythologies we're talking about it all we're talking about it all um there are exactly there are numerous theories about why the tales of ursa major and ursa minor are so long, what is one? No answer. So it's very complicated because you can have different stories depending on the part of the world you are, right? Because this comes with the history, the culture of the place. So I'm a little bit biased because of the Greek mythology, of course. So what I know about that is that

so you know that Zeus, he used to flirt with everyone, right? Yeah, he was a big whore. Yeah, exactly. He was like, oh, hey. That's pretty good. That's a pretty good one. that's why he gets paid the big so i used to yell out at street walkers

so he was um flirting with uh calisto and the the wife of uh zeo's um uh era, so the Zeus flirting with Callisto, so she decided to turn Callisto into a bear. And then the bear is basically Callisto, but she had a baby. So it's the small, the little bear. So you have the two bears together in the sky and why the tails are so long it seems that apparently to put it on the sky that they were just like uh um how you call it lassoed yeah swinging the the the bears to put it in the sky so the tails just got a little bit like zeus swung him over his head and just tossed into the sky? I've also heard about stories from North America where the Native Americans used to think that the stars on the tail,

they were just like hunters going after the bear. You know what's interesting about this, though, the subject is, obviously in your bio, all the things that you're studying and researching and you have studied, but you have to learn about constellations first and it's all this mythology surrounding it and different cultures and stuff. So even like the most, like if you're learning about anything in the, in, in galaxies universe, you have to learn all this mythology first,

which is kind of interesting to me. And then you're looking at black holes like later on yeah yeah but to be honest like uh i would say uh 80 percent of the astronomers don't know the constellations oh really uh yeah they don't most of the astronomers don't really like to learn about constellations or or about the history of the constellations because they are not interested in observations or things like that and even if they do uh observational astronomy they don't really care about this part uh of astronomy to be honest i i learned it by myself and when i was in my undergrad i had some courses about that so and i was teaching also these two two students like high school students so i learned a lot uh in doing that so it was my it was more like my

interest for that than what you learn uh in the university because in the university you will just say like okay i'm taking calculus and taking like i don't know mechanics and all these classes and it's physics and mathematics and astrophysics and then and then it's just that but the historic part you don't really learn that but it's what got you into it i guess that maybe you're one of the things and now you study stellar dust i just don't know what stellar dust is whatever that is it's like really good dust that's what i was gonna say really good it's it's the same dust that you find in your room. It's exactly the same, but just smaller. But it's the same kind of stuff.

It's just floating around. And it's produced by stars. So the evolution of stars produces the dust. But the dust in your room is meant to be mostly skin. So it can't be the same as that, right? I think it's the same. It's star skin texture. When I say it's kind of the same, it's that the composition it just silicates.

It's the chemical composition of the dust. See, it silicates. There's dust everywhere. Even in space, you need like a Dyson. You have a lot. You can put a Dyson there. We need that to work. I work with the dust.

I need it. Is the dust the dark matter? Is that different? No, it's completely different. How does an astrolabe work? An astrolabe? What's an astrolabe?

An astrolabe. This was an instrument that uh people used to use to find the location when they were overseas so an astrolabe is like a small uh telescope with some kind of um i don't know how to say that in english i think it's a quadrant know how to say that in english i think it's a quadrant so so you can know so you can measure the degrees so basically when you do your observation you look at the star you measure a degree okay you you you put the number down and then you write the number down and then when you move uh on your sheet you do the measurement again and you can do some triangulation and you do some basic geometry and you can say where you are. Oh, cool.

That's how you can guide yourself by the stars. Have you ever used the stars in your own life to actually get yourself somewhere? Or do you use Google Maps like the rest of us? I do that most of the time, but sometimes I look at the stars and to the patterns of the sun and the moon and things like that. I'm really passionate about it. So I do use it sometimes, but not every time. Like if I'm going to the bar, I will use Google Maps, of course.

Has there ever been a constellation where you've been pointing one out to a woman or something and you've gone, over there's the this and over there's the crab and over there's the dog. And then did you ever just make one up for shits and gigs? Did you ever just go, and that's the tennis racket? Did you ever do that? Or have you ever looked at a – have you ever had one pointed out to you and not seen it and nodded along like you've seen it?

Because that's basically my life. So, yeah, well, no, I don't know. you've seen it because that's basically my life. Yeah. Well, no, I don't know. Sometimes I'm looking at the constellation and I always say the names and the real stuff to people. It must be good for meeting girls

though, right? Is it good for you? Maybe, but I'm gay. He doesn't want to meet girls okay we'll be meeting guys even easier so uh yeah like a bear in a nightclub do you ever go i've got a consolation for you your mom ursa major it's true it's true it's true that it works quite well. You can say, oh, I know the stars and everything. Oh, look at that. That's a planet. And they always say, oh, how do you know?

But I'm an astrophysicist. And they are, oh my God, that's super cool. And then you're banging. I can see it now. I'm sorry for assuming you're heterosexual. I just thought you were French. You could do it as a pickup line. You'd be like, was your dad into constellations

or did the stars in your eyes fall for Mercer Minor? It is a good tactic because stargazing and sunsets and all of those things are seen as romantic. Every movie and you get your finger and you go, I'll point, and you put your arm and you go, there's the holder hand and you get the hold the hand and point around if movies taught me anyway no one shit about stars get your pussy or dick i don't get studying to this episode gets your labe stars yeah now you get the astrolabe yeah i get my astrolabe oh hold on now you've nerded it off with your astrolabe you come out with your fucking astrolabe and you hold on okay what is the largest constellation by area

jim said russia that can't be right it's pretty big though it's about to be even bigger it's pretty big though yeah but the largest uh well the largest constellation in the sky, it's Hydra. It's the constellation of the snake. Which is Russia, basically. Hydra, they cut the head off and then another head grows back all the time. That's Hydra, right? Yeah, and they don't like the Avengers. Exactly, yeah.

Against the Avengers. That's the constellation. It was the snake with multiple heads that was supposed to kill Hercules, but Hercules killed the snake with the help of the galaxy. What is the easiest constellation to find? Jim said Southern Cross, and he also said that's the one that you can see

in the Southern Hemisphere better. It is. Well, is that the easiest one to find? The easiest constellation to find? Well, I do give him a point because he comes from the south, right? So the southern crocs, it's

pretty famous. So over there, you will say, yeah, I can find it quite easily. But if you ask someone from the north, probably Orion is the easiest because it's pretty well known. Would I be right in saying that the Southern Cross in the Australian and New Zealand flag is the only constellation on a flag?

Probably. Yeah, I don't know. We've got to check that. Flags with stars, that's what we have to look up. Well, it'd be like Texas has the one star. That's not a constellation. There's a lot of ones with stars. I don't even know why I looked that up.

Suns, moons, and stars, yeah. Yeah, flags with constellations. I could have looked that up. I was trying to do some research, you know? Yeah. Me and Forrest don't like flags. We have opinions on flags. Yeah, flags with constellations.

Yeah, well, which one's New Zealand? New Zealand's the red stars. We're the white stars. Yeah, yeah. So this is Australia. New Zealand just nicked our flag and put a few. The flag of Alaska has the big dipper on it. Does it?

Yeah. Yeah, and then I guess the North Star up there. That's the flag of Alaska. Samoa looks like it's got something going on. Like some stars that can in the shape of a constellation the Conch Republic which is a fake country the Key West they made a country as the Southern Cross

you don't speak about the Conchs like that they called themselves the Conchs I think Brazil has like the planet and all sorts of stars yeah but that's just Brazil being flashy no no no the Southern Cross constellation is in there among others Brazil has the planet and all sorts of stars on there. Yeah, but that's just Brazil being flashy. No, no, no.

The Southern Cross constellation is in there, among others. So it's got several constellations. America's got stars. There's a lot of flags with constellations on them. All right, well, I'm wrong. Look it up, people. I'll tell you. The way to find out if an Australian bloke is a bit rough around the edges

is if he has the Southern Cross tattoo. That's the... You've done well. Rough around the edges. If you're a right bogan, you get the Southern Cross tattoo, that's the rough around the edges. If you're a right Bogan, you get the Southern cross tattoo. Oh yeah. That's like,

that's like the one that if like the guy takes his shirt off and he sees that run. Oh yeah. Same with the American flag here. Yeah. It's not Confederate flag, but it's sort of, I think if you had an American flag tattoo,

it's a bit, it's a bit, a little patriotic. Yeah. A little over patriotic. Too much nationalism. Yep. Got it. All right. Um, a little over patriotic. Too much nationalism. Yeah.

Got it. All right. So due to its position in the sky, the constellation is mostly visible on the Earth's southern hemisphere. And the U.S. is only visible for short periods of time in southern states like Texas. Jim said Southern Cross. You finally got that one right. Right. So I don't I don't really know which are the coordinates of the Southern Cross.

This one said like the crux. Let me see. Because I know in the Florida Keys, you can see the Southern Cross. And then Crosby, Stills, and Nash did a song, Southern Cross. Because I think the cross is too deep south in the sky. So you cannot really see it from US, but I'm not pretty sure about that. But what I can say is that, for example, so I looked it up and Texas,

the latitude of Texas is 32 degrees north, right? So basically when you do observations, that translates into losing part of the southern sky. So you lose the same number of degrees. So if you look from the South Pole, you count 32 degrees because that's the latitude of Texas. So you lose all that portion of the southern sky. So I was trying to do some computation like easy computation so that means that you can only see the northern sky and from the equator you

count 58 degrees so that's the maximum you can see and the maximum that i that i that i think it's around the area of the painter, Victor, the constellation of Victor. Where's the place that you go where you go, oh, there's a good star watching here? The stars are watching you? Yeah, where do you go? Is there a field you lay in or is there a place on Earth where everyone goes, that's the epicenter?

That's where you're like, is it like where the great northern lights are or where the the north pole or where do you see stars the best or is it the same in any dark paddock so uh if you want to see all the constellations the best place is the equator because you're in the middle so you see both the south and the north right but if you have a if you want to have a nice uh night sky and and see a beautiful the beautiful milky way and all the stars you go for example to the desert of atacama in chile and there uh probably the view is uh magnificent and it's there where we have the telescopes. Oh, Chile. So you can go also to Hawaii

or... I'm pretty sure that in Australia, probably the night sky is beautiful also. Like inland. Where there's not any light pollution, right? Like that's just... Yeah, exactly. In Chile, it's pretty high. So it's a desert like around 4,000 meters above

sea level. So where would Vegas rank? Vegas. I don't even think you can see a single star from there. Besides the sun. You go inside the Venetian, they made the sky all in there. What is the North Star's formal name? Dr. North Star?

No? So the North Star is also known as the Polar Star which is close to the original name. The name is Polaris. Polaris is the name in Latin for the North Sky.

Like the exercise? Polaris. Polaris, not Pilates. Polaris. I thought you said Pilates. Polaris. Polaris. Well, in Latin, it will be Polaris, but in English will be Polaris.

Because it's up near the North Pole and that's the polar bears. Everything's polar up there. Is anything cirrhosis? No, it's because it's because when you, when you have the earth, the North pole of the earth, the star is just lightly above. So it's pretty well aligned with, with, with us. Yeah. So, so, so that's why you call it polaris because it's cool. It's basically telling you where the North Pole is.

But here's my thing. And it's part of the Little Bear constellation. It's not part of the Deeper or the Ursa Minor. Well, because I thought he was right when he said the brightest star was the North Star. So the North Star is to help people, guide people, because you can be like, that's always North, right? But how do you know which one's the North Star if it's's not the brightest how do you you have to know where ursa minor is right and then yeah you you need you need to first find the constellation so first you find the big deeper which is pretty clear everyone can can find the shape and once you find the big, you try to find the same shape

but smaller, that it's close, and then you will find the little deeper or the Ursa Minor. And then from the tail, you can go directly to a star that is quite bright, and that's Polaris. I'll put it that way, this way. If I ever find myself in a situation where I need to find my way home from the stars, I'm already dead. Yeah, me too.

So I'm just going to lay down on a rock and have a wank. That's what you're going to do, lay on a rock and wank? Yeah. Have a wank thinking about James Cumshot. They'll find me covered in cum with me pants down laying on a rock and they'll think some crime happened. Staring at the stars. The murderer dehydrated him to death.

You'll need to stare at the stars to try and make it look like porn. You know? Like, there's Ursula's tit. Jenna Jameson. That's Miss September. Okay, so now's the part of the show called our dinner party facts what is it called yeah dinner party facts that's it need to see a neurologist guys

this is a part of the episode where our expert gives us like a fact something obscure interesting to our audience can use to impress people about the subject so you got anything for us yeah I have a few so the first one probably it's that you don't know but now you will know.

So Saturn is less dense than water. So that means that if you have a big pool in the solar system and you put Saturn in the pool, Saturn will float and it won't go down.

Damn! That's a pretty big pool. the pool, Saturn will float and it won't go down. Ooh, damn! That's a pretty big pool. If the pool is filled with water, if you fill it with something else like, for example, methane, methane, the planet will go down like a rock.

What about if you fill it with Kool-Aid? It'll float on that. So you'd have to get a pool on Jupiter. That's the only way you could do it. Now you have to have a bigger pool like solar system sites probably. Wow. That's a big pool. Those pools in Vegas are pretty big. You'd probably put it in that.

Yeah. There'd be something in Saudi Arabia at some resort. For Saturn? Yeah. You're probably right. And would the ring go in there as well? Yeah, you can put the ring. Yeah, but the ring, it's a different composition. Yeah, the ring's rock, so it's denser than water.

So the ring would sink. Well, the rings are ice. So it would be rocks and ice. What? Ice floats? Ice, ice. Oh, right. You were scaring the shit out of me. I thought he was saying eyes. The rings are ice. What? Ice floats? Ice, ice. Oh, right. You were scaring the shit out of me.

I thought he was saying eyes. The rings are ice. Just a bunch of human eyes. That's a horror movie. I don't want that. The ring of eyes. The rings have eyes. The rings are ice.

I thought they were just rocks. I thought it was rocks too. Ice. Now you're in our house. Another dinner party fact. The rings and satin are ice and satin is not as dense as water so satin would float

where the ice would just make the water cold yeah depending on the day you might want that and that's why ice are called rocks did you know that? on the rocks shut up now that's a dinner party fact

did you say you had another dinner party? Two of them? A couple of them you said? Yeah, I have another one. So the reason that the sky is blue is the same reason why the sunset is red. And this is caused because

of a phenomenon called Reilly dispersion. That means that when the light is going through the atmosphere, the blue goes to the sides while the red passes through. So, for example, if the sun is here, the blue will go to the sides. So all the sky is blue and the red passes through, but you only see the blue everywhere. But when the sun is here on the side, the blue is going this way.

So you don't see the blue, but you see all the red coming through. Oh, that's right. Wow. Yeah, that's another one I've never, that's another one where you just, you wake up, you're like, yeah, sky's blue. And then I never thought about why the sky's blue. We got a lot of mind blowers.

And that's also connected with the moon eclipses. Because for a lunar eclipse, you see that the moon turns red, right? So it's the same phenomena. And something that I really like to say is that what you are seeing over there is... So you have the Earth, right? And you have the atmosphere of the Earth. So the same phenomena is happening? And you have the atmosphere of the earth. So the same phenomena is happening because you have all the atmosphere of the earth and

all the red light is passing through but the blue is going away. So what you're seeing is the projection of all the different sunsets of the earth projected onto the moon. So that's a pretty beautiful sunset moon. That's nuts. Yeah. What is the

phenomena called again? Riley. It's called Riley dispersion. Riley dispersion. It's called pretty colors. Blue and red. Well, thank you, Jorge. Thank you, Jorge. You can find Jorge on Skype, a scientist, and also on Twitter at

Jurgen Villa. So J-U-R-G-E-N-V-I-L-L-A. Jorge Villalba, thank you very much for being here. Thank you, Jorge. Thank you so much for the invitation. It was really nice. No, we had fun, man. Look, if you're ever at a party and someone comes up to you and goes,

you know, the sky's blue because they painted it that way. You go, I don't know about that. You walk away. I will say I don't know about that. You walk away. I will see that. I will see that. Goodnight, Australia.