I Don't Know About That - Drones
Episode Date: November 8, 2022The IDKAT gang gets schooled on their knowledge of drones by expert AndyRC. Subscribe to Andy's YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/AndyRCchannel. Our merch store is now live! Go to idontknowab...outthat.com for shirts, hoodies, mugs, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You can hold up the Halloween bucket right there.
That's why.
There was a Halloween bucket in front of me,
and that's where I came up with Halloween.
Goodbye, we.
I try not to laugh.
You're really giving the insider on that one.
Yeah, I like to explain my jokes.
That way they make sense.
That's good.
That way people understand.
Like if you didn't laugh, you're stupid because this is what I meant.
That's on them.
Oh, totally.
Yeah.
Halloween.
I find Halloween is such a weird, and it's more global now.
They do it in Australia now and they do it in Britain now, but not when I was growing
up, they didn't.
But it's the candy people are rubbing their fucking hands together
because half the candy now doesn't get eaten
because people are like to their kids,
you can't eat a bucket of candy.
You're going to give that away.
So most of it gets thrown out.
Plus, it's a weird economy because kids are like,
I get free candy.
They always get free candy.
They're fucking kids.
But also, you're buying a big bag of candy to give out,
and then you give it all out.
Then your kid goes out and gets a bucket full of candy.
Everyone's got the same amount of candy.
And they're buying the same goddamn bags.
Everyone's got the same candy that they began with
at the beginning of the night in their house,
if you've got kids.
Your candy ratio hasn't gone up or down.
So it's not free candy.
I had to buy the candy to give to the other kids
so that you could get the free candy.
It's socialism.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's socialism at its worst.
Maybe communism.
Maybe communism.
Oh, God.
God forbid.
Yeah, maybe communism.
Everyone gets the same candy.
No one can strive for more candy.
My wife is the same candy. No one can strive for more candy. My wife is the healthy eater.
You know, look,
my wife,
she's a wonderful person.
She cares.
Like, my kid doesn't eat
off plastic plates
because there's chemicals
on the plastic plates.
Meanwhile, she wants me
putting substances
into my body
and bloody doesn't give a shit.
I'll be dead way before
the rest of them.
Do the cheesesteak again.
That's part of the plan.
So you can't eat off a plastic bag. My kid can't eat out of them. It's the cheesesteak again. It's part of the plan. So you can't eat it if it plays back.
My kid can't eat it out of plastic.
And it's like milk bottles with glass and all.
A whole lot of crap went on, right?
And so my wife bought a whole lot of real fruit-flavored lollipops
to give out at Halloween.
And I'm like, no.
Real fruit juice.
Yeah, real fruit juice lollipops, right?
And I'm like, they taste all right, but they're still fruit juice lollipops right and I'm like
they taste all right but they're still just a lollipop that you might get at the doctor's level
right and I'm like we need name brands I want the kids I want Reese's and Snickers I want the name
recognition don't try I don't need to educate kids tonight why don't you get the nice British
candy that you say is better that's very expensive to get that all shipped over.
I'm not bloody...
My brother's...
I'm not a Rockefeller, Jack.
My brother, Grant,
the one that's in Chicago,
his neighborhood is like
really, really popular for trick-or-treating.
So they had over 1,500 trick-or-treaters again this year.
But he usually will do like lint truffles or whatever.
And I'm like, that's got to be so expensive.
I wouldn't live in that neighborhood.
What?
I wouldn't be a part of that neighborhood. I know. They think it's so fun. I'm like that's that's got to be so expensive I wouldn't move in that neighborhood what I wouldn't be a part of that I know they think it's so fun I'm like I would
turn the lights off we go we go down to this Halloween area that's near us a bit of a driveway
where it's like the streets are blocked off and there's thousands of kids just walking on the
street and um you know each house would have well over a thousand people come and take candy from
the house and that sort of stuff.
And if you live on that street,
that's part of the tax that you pay for living there.
You'll see that one house that shuts up shop.
No.
But anyway, so...
But I was talking to one of the other parents
and they were like,
oh, no, you can't eat it yet.
We've got to take it home and test it for fentanyl.
And I'm like, who do you think this mass murderer is?
Like, he's got 1,000 people coming out'm like, who do you think this mass murderer is? Like,
he's got a thousand people
coming out,
thousand kids die
on this street.
They'd crack the code
pretty quick,
wouldn't they?
And would this murderer,
would they get all the joy
out of that?
Right.
That always baffles me
because drug dealers
aren't giving away
their drugs for free.
That's never been
a lucrative system.
Yeah,
no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, been a lucrative system. Yeah, no, no.
Drug dealers aren't putting fentanyl into cocaine to kill people.
They're doing it to pad the fentanyl out.
They're taking a chance.
Right.
They're taking a chance, but they're never like,
and I killed 10 people today.
That's just so stupid.
And they put their feet up and they crack open a beer.
It's good to be king.
How have your road gigs been?
How is Columbus and Pittsburgh?
I tell you what, I was giving
Columbus, the tickets
I was picked up at the end, we had a nice sized crowd
in the end, and both Columbus
and Pittsburgh. I'll tell you what, the last
four weekends
of gigs, and so I'm putting all these
Kelowna and
Vancouver. Vancouver
was fantastic
to the people of Vancouver. It was in this concert hall.
The people were all stacked on top.
Pittsburgh was another one.
I hadn't felt a wall of sound coming at me from applause
when I walked out like I did in Vancouver.
I love the Canadians.
That Pittsburgh venue was awesome too.
Pittsburgh was killer.
Pittsburgh was sold out in a great way.
Remember we got a that post about,
yeah, because we're about to go record the special.
We're doing it and so-
Well, at this point when it's out,
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I know, I've already recorded it,
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Just add more fake cameras.
Yeah, and they're just like, hey, some seats have opened up.
I thought it was going to be like 30.
At this point, you have recorded the special already.
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We'll see how it goes.
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and I'm literally going to take both outfits
and stand in front of the sets.
I want to wear a suit, but everyone tries to talk me out of suits.
They go, don't wear suits.
You're meant to be this rough and ready guy.
But I like, you know what I like about the suits?
I wear suits.
I wear suits well, but I always look like I'm a bloke
who's just left an office party.
Yeah.
All the sleeves. They're like up the sleeves, having a beer.
They're like, the collars are open, there's no tie.
There's not quite tucked in right.
Like, I look like that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, you look good in a suit.
A couple weeks from now, you have some dates in Vegas too.
We are off to Vegas.
We're going to Vegas.
And then Asia tour.
I just bought my flight to Vegas.
And then Asia.
In Vegas, where I'm going to Vegas. And then Asia tour. I just bought my flight to Vegas. And then Asia. In Vegas where I'm going to let loose.
I would have recorded the special.
I'm eating in Vegas, baby.
I'm getting fat in Vegas that weekend.
There's not a thing I won't put in my mouth.
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Yes, though. Yes, though. Yes, though.
Yes, though.
Yes, though.
Judging a book by its cover.
All right, Andy.
So, Andy, are you from the north of England?
It depends who you ask.
The Midlands.
I mean, yes.
You're in the Midlands.
All right. So, you don't sound like you have a thick birmingham accent i'm gonna say you're from somewhere like uh coventry
no no think between it's a place that people probably aren't very aware of it's between
birmingham and manchester i can tell you if you like.
Ah, Stafford.
Yeah, Staffordshire.
There you go. Yeah, yeah, I know.
I don't think his location's going to help you very much.
No, but Staffordshire, he's from the home of Robbie Williams, right?
Ah, that's what I was going to say, you know.
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You used to have one of these a long time ago, and it a small and i don't think you have one anymore i used to have
one of these and it was small and i think at your at your old house yeah i haven't had the operation
i saw the smirk and i was like what is he thinking about i still have it in the jaw first i i i used
it i i i i played with it i played with it a jar first. I used it. I played with it.
Oh, it's your penis.
I played with it.
You used to have one.
It was small.
I played with it at your old house,
and I don't think you have one anymore.
Maybe.
So it's not an instrument.
Something small that I used to play with.
At your house in the hills.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I lived there.
Just making sure.
Does it involve technology?
Yes, for sure. Involves technology. Are we talking about Game Boys? sure you know it was it was is it involved technology yes okay uh involves technology
is it are we talking about game boys no getting closer though yeah video games no but it was like
it was maybe like this big the one you had coasters technology though i still have coasters
it was this big and uh it wasn't a very good one universal
remotes they're fucking hopeless they're bloody they haven't mastered that technology yet okay
they always go we'll get your remote that runs your whole house all right never fucking works
oh then it stops working they go we just have to reset the remote yours was star wars themed
mine was star wars themed yeah i had a small thing that
i may not have anymore it was remote control oh drones yeah there you go oh i still have that
how you do yeah you have a millennium falcon drone yeah yeah there you go we're talking about drones
drones all right drones i want with the okay with drones coming into the world right big and small
and ones that can do missiles and all that,
why hasn't my taxes come down?
Surely we need less soldiers.
Surely I can get some of that drone money back.
You know what I mean?
Andy Garcia has been flying hobby UAVs and drones for 30 years.
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30 years.
I saw that yesterday when we were talking to you.
You don't even look like you're 30 years old.
Well, that's very kind.
Well, I'm 40, and I started doing it at 10 years old.
Matt's a check out.
Matt's a check out. The maths check out.
I think he's telling the truth.
We're going to talk about drones today.
We're going to talk about drones in general, but
probably focus a little bit more on hobby drones,
but we'll have some general drone questions too, but you can ask
whatever you want to, Jim, once we get through it.
I'm going to ask you some questions about drones
after we're done answering them. Andy's going to ask you some questions about drones after we're done answering them.
Andy's going to grade you 0 through 10 on accuracy,
and Kelly's going to grade you on confidence.
I'm going to grade you on et cetera.
We'll add them all together.
21 through 30, drone, robot.
11 through 20, drone, bee.
0 through 10, drone, person.
What about drone on?
Yeah, well, that's like a drone person.
Yeah, that would have been a good one.
Yeah, that would have been good.
I know, but, you know, I had that in the list.
We'll edit it out.
I wonder why they're called drones.
That might be one of the questions.
Yeah.
We'll find out.
What is a drone?
A drone is a remote control flying object
that isn't like an aeroplane.
It will have several propellers in it that will make it be able to move up
and down and back and side like the glass elevator from Charlie
in the Chocolate Factory in the glass elevator.
It can go each way where it just doesn't go forward and scoops around.
It can go backwards and stuff, and it's used for hobbyists
who want to enjoy drone technology, and it's used for hobbyists who want to enjoy drone technology and it's used
heavily now by the military to get in to do things like reconnaissance and also to drop missiles and
whatnot in there uh last time i was in australia i think you i know you weren't with me i was there
uh and i had to go get a covid test i went up to the snob showgrounds and then there was, I saw the, they had the military
drone people like getting their certificates. So there was just people trying to do precision-y
drone type of things with flying them around. Now, I know I said remote control, but they can also be,
they need a control center, but they can also be pre-programmed to do things. Like when you go to
the Olympics, they can make pictures in the sky and all the drones can move in different formations i think uh it's sort of a big bit of technology
that's taken off in the last sort of 15 years but as we know it's sort of been going on for a lot
longer than that okay where where does the word drone originate from um so a drone i believe would
be a robot that's just like a grunt of a thing that just sort of does one task or something like that
because we have like, geez, you're drone on.
And like people who just sort of –
so I believe it's because it's got no human element,
it's considered to be a robot that does a task that we make it do.
So that would be where drone comes from.
Okay.
How many different types of drones are there?
Oh, many.
There's the Millennium Falcon one that you buy from toys or us they also sell an x-wing one i also got one from
the good people at nerf which was just nerf quality skin there's a nerf drone well it had
it had it had nerf qualities to it around the outside when it crashes. And then you'd have, look, they range from $30 to probably $3 million.
$3 million?
Yeah, I reckon the military ones.
Oh, military ones, yeah, maybe.
Yeah, yeah, like maybe even more.
What about the ones you can buy?
And that's not including the price of the bloody missile.
Oh, ones you can buy, probably $50,000.
You can go up to the Bentley of drones, you know?
Okay.
You can get one at Toys R Us.
Well, that doesn't exist.
But you can get one at Amazon, 30 bucks.
A little shitty one.
What unlikely object allowed people to make DIY or hobby drones?
What unlikely object made it possible for people to make do-it-yourself...
Yeah, like at home.
...drones?
What unlikely product? So it would have the four
little propellers inside it uh i'm gonna say those propellers come from the bottom of some type of
like little carburetory type engine that goes oh are the fans the fans this is the the fans in the back of computers
okay um our hobby jack just looked at me like not bad jim
it's probably wrong but not a bad guess i'm on board this is what it is yeah yeah
our hobby drones and consumer drones the same and if not uh what's the difference well a hobby drone is something that
you put together it's like so i grew up in there was the rc um uh remote control uh uh um cars
that you put together you had the frogger and this and that and they had suspension on them
and then you painted the outside by yourself you put it together and then you race them in these
tracks and they would fishail around the dirt tracks.
They were awesome.
And it doesn't seem to be as popular now.
But there was a moment in the late 80s where that was a big thing,
to get one of them for Christmas, you know?
Different motors.
Yeah, different motors.
You could juice them up.
So what's the difference between a hobby and a consumer drone?
Well, so I'll use that.
So that would be what you classify as a hobby drone,
one that you put together, paint, and assemble yourself.
A consumer drone would be one that is pre-assembled.
Okay.
How does a quad copter turn and maneuver
if the blades don't tilt?
If the blades don't tilt,
I believe they don't need to tilt.
So if you want to go forward,
you would put either the front two or the back two on.
So if you put the front two,
put the front two on,
it'll dip and then push forward like that. You put the back two on so if you put the front two put the front two on it'll it'll
dip and then push forward like that you put the back two on it'll go backwards like that and then
it will go each way so you can go either way rotating the four and maybe even it can go on
angles by just putting one on at a time and then to raise from the sky all four will go at once
and then two will go boom and then two will go vroom and then two will go vroom vroom
yeah what does fpv stand for fpv like what is it what does it stand for i still get warts yeah um
f fpv is flight pattern velocity okay and what are fpv goggles they'll help you see it okay how far away can a hobby
drone fly in kilometers from the person flying it so you're at home flying it how far away can it go
well they go pretty far they had one the other day go over i believe it was dodger stadium or
something like that there was one of the playoff games someone flew a drone over the top and it
was a bit of a pain in the neck and i don't think it was someone in the stadium doing it because it would be
pretty indiscreet.
So I think it was someone from outside.
I want to say a real good one.
Yeah.
A really good one where,
you know,
I've seen those brilliant things where they fly into stadiums and they fly
through a window and then down a corridor and then out through the corridor
and,
you know,
those things are so cool.
Those videos.
Yeah.
Um,
you can check them out on andy's and then
and then also also also i've been on set where in legit we use drones to video like you used to have
to to get a shot of of uh julie andrews singing the hills are alive yeah right and her spinning
around that grass she wouldn't have been able to hear herself there would have been a helicopter
a large helicopter going over the top where she was the hills are alive and she's spinning around that grass, she wouldn't have been able to hear herself. There would have been a helicopter, a large helicopter going,
over the top where she was,
the hills are alive,
and she's spinning around.
And even in the remake of European Vacation
when Chevy Chase happened,
he still would have had the same experience.
But now, those shots are very inexpensive now.
You just put a camera,
and so I'm going to say,
eight kilometers.
Eight kilometers.
What is a five inch and what's
the difference between a two inch all right you tell a girl that a two inch is a five inch yeah
amen temperature no a five inch and a what one five inch and a two inch what are what are they
and what's the difference i would say that's the uh the propeller blade uh lengths and so so yeah
not the whole diameter of the blade i would say each blade two inch and five inch and that would
be or it might be the whole diameter but i don't think so because i think even my i think my
star wars one was diameter was they would have been one and a half inches,
maybe two inches per propeller.
Yeah, I'm going to say it's the diameter of the blades.
All right, this is up for interpretation,
but does a drone race last longer than sex?
Oh, yeah.
Depending on like how many times I've blown a load.
Yeah.
That's also another thing I found out.
I'm touring Asia and I got the vasectomy.
And remember how I've been joking around how the record is 17 days i have to get my come in before 19 days because i leave again yeah i'm in
a race against time i have to i have to have my vasectomy and masturbate at least at least 30 times
in 19 days otherwise i have to go back in for a doctor's checkup or whatever and have my cum later.
So I'm a race against time because I'm not back until after.
It's going to be so busy.
Oh, yeah.
I'll be flat out.
Don't be bothering me.
I'll be busy at work.
Just ship some back from Asia.
You'll be fine.
It's got six hours.
You've got to get it to the doctor.
You live six hours?
Yeah.
In LA traffic, I might have to do it in the car.
What unlikely hobby or sport is closely related to flying DIY drones?
What unlikely hobby or sport?
Yeah, what is closely related to flying DIY drones?
I would say model airplane flying.
That was a hobbyist thing.
I would say there would probably know model submarines and shit like that that
might have the same sort of control pattern or something like that it'll be another model thing
all right this first thing that comes to your mind when i say is what's a bando
oh i'd say video games for the other one video games because i fly drones in call of duty okay what's a bando bando yeah uh
it's what we call uh music groups in australia okay what's the definition of what's the definition
of everything's got an o on the end steve-o bando we're gonna go see the bando what's the
definition of ripping balls uh that's going as fast as you can, man. What is whoop?
That's pedals to the metals. So you know when you say something is balls to the wall?
And we always say it's like going fast.
That's because on the airplanes and, you know,
maybe Second World War or whatever,
they had balls on the little levers,
and they would push those balls forward to get full velocity.
I thought it was balls.
It's something to do with testicles,
but that's where they go.
Balls to the wall comes from that.
So I would say ripping balls would be...
Take those balls off.
You've got both your thumb sticks
and you've gone fucking...
The forward one, you've gone full pelt.
Okay, what is whoop?
There it is, Forrest.
All right, how fast are hobby drones legally allowed to fly? there it is Forrest alright here
how fast are
hobby drones
legally allowed to fly
and I'm gonna
picture my car
going next to it
it's not as fast
as you think
I'm gonna reckon
50 miles an hour
yeah I
I know you're wrong
on this already
because I watched
a video on Andy's YouTube channel
and there's one that's
fucking fast
so
yeah that's all I can tell you
yeah but that might be
that might be
that could be illegal
that might not be
sky legal bro
it was 0 to 60
yeah you blacked out
the windows too much
and you lowered the tires
you can't
that's not street legal son
how high
are hobby drones
legally allowed to fly
like how high
I'm gonna say How high are hobby drones legally allowed to fly? Like, how high?
I'm going to say 800 meters.
Okay.
You've already answered this, TV, sports, and films.
You kind of touched on that.
We can talk about it a little bit more.
Oh, it's a big... And now, like, even, like, well, with sports,
now they have the camera on the wire,
which is doing a lot of work that goes back and forth,
and all that. That's a new bit of technology. Yeah. But with movie making, unbelievable. Well, with sports now they have the camera on the wire, which is doing a lot of work that goes back and forth.
That's a new bit of technology.
But with movie making, unbelievable.
We would have scenes in legit where we were driving down and people take it for granted.
We've got a camera in the sky, man.
Yeah, we'll get into it.
Let me ask the rest of the questions.
What is a cine-lifter?
Cine-lifter.
C-I-N-E-L-I-T.
A cine-lifter is the bit that goes in the motor that adds RPMs.
Okay.
What's the name of the current biggest consumer drone manufacturer in the world?
Like the name of the manufacturer.
Oh, I don't know that.
Okay.
Where are the majority of drones and drone parts made?
China.
China.
Good guess.
Everything's made in China.
If you come and tell me it's Poland, I'll be very surprised.
Yeah, I hope it is.
It'll be China, maybe Japan, but I don't think,
because some of these drones are cheap as all hell.
They're very cheaply made, and I'm going to say this is China.
I say they're bang and bang.
I'm sure you could get a Japanese one that might be a bit better but i'm gonna say china is your is your drone mecca can anyone own a drone without any or korea south korea it feels like they might
have gotten involved can anyone own a drone without any certification qualifications or
insurance legally yeah doesn't need anything you know i've got one no one asked me for anything okay i gave
it to at that stage a five-year-old okay so maybe maybe they didn't ask you jim but you know maybe
you should have looked it up maybe i should put that in the manual and don't change your answer
either it's locked in no i stick with. Two more questions. Bloody stupid rule.
What is remote ID and why is it a problem?
Remote ID and why... The ID would be what connects your remote control to that drone.
What is the connective tissue between the two items?
And then maybe that hackers can get into them
and make your drone fly or take over or something like that.
Maybe they haven't got enough protection on them.
Okay, and then the last question.
You know what?
I'm going to save that, and we'll just talk about that, actually.
We'll just discuss that because I didn't rephrase it.
All right, how did Jim do on his knowledge of drones here, Andy?
I was really impressed.
I underestimated how much drones would have been
used in some of the shows that jim has been a part of i never thought of that aspect when coming up
with these questions um i would give him six and a half to seven all right okay and you know that's
that's me holding back because maybe even more
imagine if I said that you need a license for the cuts
how do you do Kelly
confidence
I felt like he was pretty confident I'm going to give him an 8
8 alright so that's like 15
yeah I'll give you like a 10
you can be a drone robot
you don't need to be anything other than that
so what is a drone?
I mean, Jim said, you know, remote control flying objects.
Compared to the glass elevator in Charlie and Chocolate Factory,
it can be pre-programmed or controlled or remote.
I mean, how would you define a drone?
Yeah, he kind of got it right on the consumer side of things.
But, yeah, a drone, it can be such a broad amount of things.
So on the consumer side, it's classed as a flying machine that can be remotely controlled
or fly autonomously using software-controlled flight plans.
autonomously using software controlled flight plans.
And they're also known as UAVs, which stands for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles.
So that's sort of what most people see that term as a hobbyist because it's got negative sort of connotations to the word, but we've had to adopt it.
One thing that you didn't get right there is that basically everything is a drone that flies now. So an RC airplane for example remote control airplane remote control helicopter
is classed as a drone and you could even argue that a remote control car uh even though it's a
ground vehicle it could be classed as a drone you know trying to run everything that's the thing is
i let out about maybe 20 UAVs a night
on Call of Duty
like that's me
first care package
that comes in
right
me first
kill streak thing
oh is that why you just go
ah
yeah I was like
I never questioned it
I hear the term UAV
20 times a day
and I'm never going to
wonder what that is
he just put it out
he just fucking went
that's a UAV
I thought you were going to wonder what that is. He just put it out. I just fucking went, that's a UAV.
I thought you were going to say a fart. And now I've already forgotten what he said.
What is it?
Unmanned.
Unmanned aerial vehicle.
Unmanned aerial vehicle.
That's how I get a satellite UAV coming.
But a Roomba too.
Three kills.
A Roomba's a drone, huh?
I mean, do them in a freaking safe world. But a Roomba, too.
Three kills.
A Roomba's a drone, huh?
I mean, at the moment, I don't think land-based vehicles are classed as a drone,
but I wouldn't be surprised if at some point they are,
because if we're talking about security and things like that,
then they could definitely be used in a way that is not not for fun let's say that millennium
falcon breaking bad they put ricin in that one so i'm just saying that millennium falcon drone man
that gave us a lot of joy in our house but the problem was the battery runs out you could have
five minutes out of it now yeah the battery's no good um the and so you maybe we can jump ahead
because you mentioned so consumer drone versus hobbyist drone, what's the difference between that?
We asked that a little bit later.
So the difference between a consumer and a hobby?
Yeah, so a consumer drone is something that you can just go into a shop in the UK.
It would be something like PC World Curry's Gym.
Would it be Best Buy in America or something like that?
Best Buy.
It would have been Circuit City back in the day, but that's shut down.
Hobby Lobby.
Yeah, Best Buy would be.
I don't know if they sell drones in Best Buy.
I think they do.
Yeah, they have them in Best Buy.
Yeah, yeah.
Hobby Lobby too, you know, if that's what you like.
And all the shitty ones were just the toys they're asking for.
They don't have any of that anymore.
You just buy them online now. You just buy them online now.
You just buy them online.
Yeah, so a consumer drone is something where you don't need any experience.
You never really need to have flown one.
It can be classed as a hobby itself,
but it's very different from a DIY drone in that if you gave somebody who'd never flown a DIY drone
before it's likely that they wouldn't even be able to get it to take off and
if they did manage to get it to take off then they would probably crash it into a tree. Yeah.
And the reason for that is that the consumer drones,
they fly themselves.
They've got sensors.
They've got GPS, which is very important. And the thing, I mean, you know,
if you've ever just seen one sat there in the sky,
they do that by themselves.
And I have given
consumer drones to some of my friends who've never flown before and they just nailed it straight away
and it's you know but it would be a very different story uh if i gave them uh i don't know if you
could see but something like this is a DIY drone.
And, yeah, so that's the big difference between the two.
Still could be classed as hobbies.
Now, drones have been like the one that you just showed us.
In the last sort of 10 years, some people have been a nuisance
with these things, flying them over airports and
stuff like that you know causing trouble and as i said the dodgers game and all that type of stuff
are there are there ever evolving laws that are being brought into place and can you catch a
person uh from the drone and find where they are with a remote control or is it a pretty uh
what i'm saying can you be a shit stirrer
and not get caught with these things?
Yeah, and this kind of goes down to a question that was asked
more towards the end, you know, when talking about certification
and legislation.
And at the moment, if you buy a drone that's above a certain weight i think we
actually skipped the weight question uh so if you buy i'll get to all the questions eventually don't
worry when we go through that's okay well what should i go no no no no no no the question we
can jump back and forth and you can you can answer it too if i didn't ask like what weight in grams
the drone have to be in order to not need any form of certification qualifications or insurance?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the answer is 250 grams.
And that was just the weight that somebody come up with, you know, due to inertia and things like that.
But anyways, to go back to, you know, how to stop these bad operators.
If you just, say, walked into a shop and bought a drone, if it's over 250 grams, then you have to register it with the FAA.
And you have to take a test as well.
Now, there's also on these drones that you buy off the shelf, they have systems in place to stop you doing things like what you explained, you know, drones flying close to football fields and airports, actually the bigger issue. and yeah these drones they actually have things called geo-fencing and no-fly zone areas
built into them and so what happens is that these off-the-shelf drones
actually get hacked there are sites where you can pay $40 and it will remove all of these
restrictions. And that is probably what you experienced when, you know, say a drone
stopped a football game, unless the football stadium didn't register themselves as a
registered themselves as a no-fly zone with the biggest seller of drones, which we haven't got to the answer of.
Can I make my backyard a no-fly zone?
Because I've seen this now.
The drones come over.
They've got cameras.
They fly over your yard, right, and they come back.
I was once at a party.
Remember we were at that party in that rooftop with the girl of Waynesville,
the Asian girl?
Tia Carrera.
Yeah.
And we were on this rooftop party and then this drone came over.
The girls were laying on sunbeds just next to the pool
and the drone came right out over the girls
and was obviously looking at them and then it pissed off.
And you really, it feels a bit invasion of privacy there
so like you know look i'm not fucking i'm not tom cruise right but is tom cruise's backyard
a no-fly zone and are all of our backyards no-fly zones or are people allowed to fly over whenever
they want i think um you know for the most I mean, you know, we talk about privacy,
but, you know, there are, yeah, it is a problem, yeah, like drones flying over.
But when you say you saw the drone fly over, did it sort of stop
and was it looking or was it?
Yeah, stopped, hovered over the girls.
That was a hotel.
Yeah, we were a rooftop party at a hotel.
Came over to all the people on top of the hotel,
hobbled over the girls that were laying down,
and then stayed there for a while and left.
Like this is the thing with everything.
With everything.
99% of us are being decent with cars and driving.
And then one fuckwit has to be a fuckwit.
I'm sure that 99% of drone people, hobbyists are just having a bit of fun and there's a fuckwit has to be a fuckwit i'm sure that 99 of drone people
hobbyists are just having a bit of fun and there's a fuckwit yeah yeah everything you
pretty much probably the same cunt that was in the car um and when it when it comes to
no fly zones um you could probably perhaps make a complaint.
But, you know, there are other ways to sort of...
I run after them with my pool scooper.
I'll get one.
If it gets in the pool scooper, you don't get it back.
It's funny you mention that, actually.
There were some attempts made to sort of like
uh create a net so that like another drone goes up and throws a net at it because that
as soon as one of those propellers gets hit by anything it it's gone so it was a drone to catch
other drones yeah yeah, yeah, exactly.
You've got to hope with the aeroplanes that there isn't just a mistake and you've got to also hope that there isn't just someone
who's a complete, like, I'm opening a can of worms here.
Do terrorist groups use drones?
Do they use them?
Yeah, has there been a terrorist act used by a drone
um i feel like i don't want to give you ideas terrorist groups but i feel like that's the next
step right not not that i'm aware of and that that doesn't seem to be when we when we're talking
about uh legislation and stuff like that that doesn't seem to be the main concern with them. The main concern with them is them actually, when it comes to all of the legislation and stuff like that, is actually one colliding with a manned aircraft.
That's why the question was in there about, you know, how high are hobby drones legally allowed to fly.
And to this date, there hasn't been a single incident.
And so all of the things that are being put in place, they are... Right, so they'd have to be right next to the airport to do it
and where it's taking off.
And that would be where the problem would be.
Well, he's saying it's not, there hasn't been any issues.
No, there wouldn't be any issues.
I'm just being, just asking.
Let me go through some of these questions now first.
Then we'll get to some of these other ones.
Where does the word drone originate from?
Jim said robot, that's a grunt, does one task.
I don't know if that's true.
He answered that, didn't he?
No.
Actually, oh, sorry, go on.
No, no, I don't think you did.
Where does the word, We said what they are.
What is the word?
Where does the word originate from?
Okay.
So actually it's a clue in your scoring because it's bees originally.
That's where the word comes from.
Yeah, the bees.
The drone bee.
Yeah, because they're the ones they don't, they have to get fed.
They just do the tasks they're told to do, right, basically.
Yeah, exactly.
And then after World War I, they made a large-scale remote-controlled aircraft.
It was called the de Havilland Queen Bee, and it was used as target practice.
the de Havilland Queen B, and it was used as target practice. So it was a big remote control airplane,
and it was used so that, you know, we can practice to shoot at.
And I think Queen B kind of stuck,
and that was the first time sort of drone became used in aviation.
And yeah, that was uh after world war one and uh rc planes remote
control planes been around since the 1940s i don't know if you know this answer but like how much
of the military heavy lifting do drones do now because i i always think like what are we going
into any war with people forever now let's just drone it up baby i think that might be
his dinner party fact yeah that was going to be my dinner all right no wait wait hold up
how many different types of drones are there jim said many yeah that's an arbitrary question
there's thousands of the bloody things he was he was not wrong there are many different ones and many different uses
so um there's there's the hobby drones the diy ones um you know what i i've got here so uh we
build them up and uh you know they can take you know hours weeks to build. And also, we've got simulators now.
So when I was 10 learning to fly remote control airplanes,
we had none of that.
So it took me two years before I could fly on my own
without somebody helping me.
So yeah, there's the hobby drone.
And then there's the consumer drones which are they just
fly themselves um basically but you know it's a hobby in themselves i have them i don't find them
as enjoyable because they are really just a camera crane in the sky um the footage you get back from
them is amazing uh yeah so there's the consumer drones.
But then, like, within the drone category I mentioned,
there is planes, a helicopter, remote-controlled helicopter
will be classed as a drone.
There are racing drones, which was one of the questions.
And I don't know.
I love watching those races, man.
I find them so fascinating, those races.
They're going around corners and bends and all that type of stuff.
How many drones have you lost in your lifetime?
How many times have you just gone, that's in the ocean?
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I think I've flown over 1,000 drones.
And I think I've probably lost.
And I have four left.
thousand drones and i think i've probably left uh that is true because you know i i get i give them away um and and you know if they move on there's no point me having a thousand and you
race jones correct i don't actually no no i don't um it's it's kind of like a a young person's game racing bloody the young
kids with their with their with their nimble thumbs i am coordination he's out of shape for
i know i look i always look at my call of duty games like i'm doing all right for a 45 year old
guy against kids yeah um yeah but you know it's the same with games yeah so the fastest drone pilots
they they are like 14 yeah and you actually actually see it as they um get older they lose
their reflexes and when i say older i'm talking up to 18 to 20 and then it's gone the game
yeah like esport gamers i asked this about many of our subjects
we we do here what's the pussy like in the uh drone community
um uh at what age are we talking no legal legal legal like i'm like i'm talking about
i'm talking about like are they girls, they're trained girls
or is it just mostly boys showing up?
Unfortunately, it's mostly male.
So you don't get into it for the women is what I'm saying.
Well, do you know what?
You don't get into it to meet women but...
Why are you doing this?
To watch something go up in the sky?
God, I'll tell you different activities.
It's because it's cool.
It used to be a geeky thing when I was a kid.
I was bullied because I was into these remote control aeroplanes,
but now they're on the tv uh and racing that that's
everybody wants one it's a cool thing and people ever get sponsors oh yes the racing the racing
guys the racing is incredible when i watch the racing i'm just like i don't know how the and
now that you told me they're all 14 it makes sense because when i watch it i'm like who the
fuck is controlling this thing that is yeah it yeah, it makes sense. They're 14.
I'm a big fan of Jimmy Davis.
He's a 13-year-old I've been following for a while.
Hello, Mr. Jeffries.
I walk up to him, hey, Jimmy, can I have an autograph?
Big fan.
They're not all that young.
Obviously, there are older pilots in their 20s, but it does seem to be the case that um a racing a racer will get to a certain
age and then they'll start making money elsewhere because they're not winning races girls they met
girls they discovered alcohol and drugs girls and partying and then they're like oh i can work on my
drone game the vision goes back that's That's also something that happens as well.
It's well known, yes.
Are you married, mate?
I'm not married, no.
I have a lovely girlfriend.
You have a lovely girlfriend.
Okay, so your lovely girlfriend, what does she think of your drone?
Is she happier out of the house or is she like this,
he's off fucking flying drones again.
He's got bloody things to do.
She doesn't have an interest in it, but because it makes me happy,
it kind of makes her happy.
My wife does this thing that when I have interest in things,
whether it be like the Beatles or something like that,
I'll put on some documentary or something and then I'll throw out a few facts
and figures about something and she placates me and goes that's great you know she really acts
like she's interested was jim right about this was jim right then unlikely object allowed people
to make diy or hobby drones was it the fans in the back of computers actually no believe it or not that's a belter of an answer it well yeah yeah i mean you know i i
suppose but that wasn't meant to be a dig or anything now we like it but um i guess you could
yeah it's part of it the the the drive the drivetrain system is is part of it but the the thing that really uh allowed diy drones to
to fly which is what you know the question was um it's actually the nintendo wii believe it or not
the game console yeah it's really it's it's a really uh crazy, isn't it? It's specifically the controllers. Yeah.
So the controllers have got accelerometers in them,
just like your mobile phone devices have got them.
You know, you tilt it and somehow it knows how to tilt the screen.
And someone took the components out of the controllers on the Wii.
They smashed it into their TV because they didn't put the bracelet on.
They made a bit of code called MultiWii,
and that allowed for stabilization of drones and also how we work the motors so that it can fly straight.
Oh, I always thought multi-wee was me and Forrest
had a piss together.
Across the street?
Yeah, we'd go, jeep, jeep.
You ever do that with a friend?
You go, we'll go together, we're drunk,
and then you act like it's lightsabers.
I think we've done it together.
Yeah, of course we've done it with everyone
who I'm close with.
I haven't done it with Jack.
Nintendo Wii.
No, not yet.
Jack's going,
I think the Wii's coming.
Hey, Jim, I'm going to have a piss.
No, I'm just asking.
Okay, hobby drones and consumer drones.
We talked about that.
All right, how does a quadcopter turn and maneuver
if the blades don't tilt?
Jim said you put it up front to you,
you dip it, go forward,
too many hand movements,
boom, boom, boom. Oh, he's right absolutely he absolutely nailed that yeah yeah so so uh yeah
a motor will speed up or slow down uh depending on you know your input on the controller uh the
blades will go different speeds and it'll cause the quadcopter or drone.
I say quadcopter because basically the quadcopter.
Because it has no legs or arms?
It has arms.
It has arms.
And the most popular quadcopter, sorry, drone is a quadcopter,
and that's simply because it's got four motors.
Quadcopter.
I didn't ask this question.
Are people who make DIY drones for fun at war with each other?
I'm not sure if I even understand that, actually.
That's my thing.
So I don't know.
In the drone community, right, there'd be purists,
and then there'd be hobbyists, and then there'd be hobbyists and there'd be
people who are like i don't bring that drone over these are the diy drones yeah so they were
well you might because you might buy an engine yeah for a thing from from your shop or and then
there's the bloke that's like no i built my engine from a wee remote control and he thinks he's the
dog's bollocks and you're only half the dog's bollocks
would that be correct what once again you have absolutely nailed it they're not physically at
seven and a half are we trying to get you to 10 yeah we probably could to be honest yeah
yeah yeah um there's also the issue of everything being called a drone as well so you know if we've had
uh radio-controlled aircraft uh you know from the 1940s that were just called remote control
airplanes and there was no legislation and and anything like that and then all of a sudden this
tech comes along you know quadcopters multi-rotors drones and um you know the the the regulation
you know that comes in applies to all of them that that creates a lot of um let's say uh
problems in the community because you know you've got these guys who you know they're in their 60s
and 70s why do i have to you, why do I have to register my,
I've been flying this thing for, you know, three decades
and now I've got to change that.
So, yeah, there's a lot of.
They don't like change.
Yeah.
They don't like it.
They don't like being told what to do, the elderly.
Telling me.
Oh, I'm getting like that as well.
Shut up.
Go away.
Yeah, tell me what to do.
Who's the godfather of drones
who's the bloke that everyone goes
he makes the bloody best drones
or she
well when you say make
that would be the company
I guess
when I said what is the biggest drone manufacturer
that was another question
yeah go ahead
you may say oh yeah I've heard of that when I say it I said, what is the biggest drone manufacturer? That was another question. So shall I answer that? Yeah, go ahead. Sure.
We jump around. So you may say, oh, yeah, I've heard of that when I say it, but it's DJI.
Oh, yeah, I know that one.
DJI.
No idea.
Yeah, that's the one.
I have a drone.
I lent it to my friend, but DJI is the company that it is.
Yeah, it's a big one.
Mavic.
DJI Mavic.
Yeah, because they make gimbals, too.
DJI Mavic.
The gimbals.
Yeah, DJI Mavic.
It's very, yeah.
And where are the parts?
We can jump into that.
Where are most of the drone parts made?
China?
Jim got it right again.
China, specifically Shenzhen.
But there are other areas, as Jim said as well.
You know, you could buy one.
But electronics really come from China and sort of Poland.
I got a Polish drone.
They've made the Highlands of Scotland.
You know, there are a few drone manufacturers that aren't based in China,
but there's going to be some aspect of it, like a component that came from China, but you will find
that they are a lot more expensive to buy as well
because just everything is just cheaper.
What's the drone capital of the world?
Who's fly the most of these?
Well, I would say the USA for sure.
USA.
Yeah.
I mean, I look at my...
Do they look down on you UK drone guys?
Do they look down on you?
No, not at all.
I don't think so.
Anyways, I mean, the world looks down on the UK if you want to go there.
Well, I tell you what, with the internet and all that sort of stuff,
I remember when American comics were a little bit more smug
about foreign comics.
And so they didn't get,
I had met American comics 20 years ago when I went to South Africa
who couldn't believe that other countries were even doing it.
Yeah.
Right?
And if we did do it, they assumed we were shit at it
and they were the only people doing this art form well.
You know what I mean?
But now that's not the case anymore.
People respect foreign comics and, you know.
Yeah, for sure.
Bad day.
Yeah.
So I can imagine the beginning was like,
there's a guy in Lithuania with a drone.
That would have happened.
Fucking, yeah, shut up, you stupid American fella.
Looking down on him.
He's just having a good time.
I think because the UK is a lot smaller.
Yeah, the UK, you have a lot of grass there.
You have a lot of open fields.
You have a lot of green meadows to have a little bit of a drone go.
The farmers, if I was a farmer, I'd be droning all day.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
In fact, we rent a farm to fly on.
And also magic mushrooms in Britain just grow wild on those farms
all over the place.
Get me a drone and just watch growing out of the soil.
What a hell of a day you'd have.
What was the problem you were saying?
The thing you're forgetting, Jim, is we don't have the best weather
and pretty much all drones are not
water I did forget that I thought that England was always sunny with no rain it's always sunny
in Birmingham yeah Stafford's a particularly rainy area as well oh yeah yeah well the whole
of England really but yeah it's also you know when we're talking about planes the wind especially
this year it's rarely been below 20 miles an hour and if you you know kind of scale that to what the
wind would be for a full-size aircraft it it's it's crazy so yeah we haven't been able to do much
of the what we call fixed wing drone type of flying this year.
And, yeah, we've had a lot of rain.
And then when it's hot, it's crazy hot, and all of the drones overheat,
and we can't fly them then either.
So, yeah, it's pretty difficult.
Bloody whinging English.
You get a bit of good weather.
That's what I think about the – we call them poms in Australia, and we have a term called whinging poms because this is our impersonation
of English people.
Oh, it rains all the time.
Now it's too hot.
You got it.
You get about five perfect days in all of the year in England,
about five perfect ones that are just right in that sweet spot.
What is FPV?
What does it stand for?
And then what are FPV goggles?
What's up with that?
So you can see it.
Okay, so what was it that Jim said?
He said flight pattern velocity, and then to help you see it.
Okay. So FPV stands for first person view.
And it's where a camera and transmission system is put onto a drone or quadcopter.
And the person flying it can see through the camera as if they were sitting on the drone themselves.
So that's what FPV is.
And that also leads into what the goggles are.
That'd be cool. yeah that's fun first person view yeah so then first person change the answer yeah okay yeah the goggles
do help you see it though yeah sure they have a point partial point actually yeah so if you want
to go into the goggles question next these are the goggles and basically um you can
fly first person view without goggles you know your uh your consumer dji mavit like you say
you actually fly it through your phone you look down at your phone and you can see the picture
but with our hobby drones we prefer to use goggles like these.
And that basically, it really does make you feel like you are sat on the drone.
Do you just sit back in that room in front of your telly and fly a drone outside with those goggles on?
Or you have to be outside as well?
You can do that.
You can absolutely do that, yes.
But usually we fly
outside if it's really cold we can sit in the car or um our i'm part of a flying club and we have
like a a sort of like kind of mini clubhouse we can kind of sit in there and and fly outside if
it's really cold there's a nice log fire in there too. Did anyone fly over the Queen's funeral?
It was a lovely day.
It was perfect sky, perfect flying weather.
I wasn't allowed to fly out of the country
because they didn't want any aeroplanes,
but I did see several aerial shots.
So for them saying we can't have anything flying overhead
by the Queen's, they had their own ones.
The BBC had their own ones going,
so we could watch those guys
in their furry hats march along.
Did anyone do that?
I believe they were helicopters.
Oh.
And that was kind of part of the movie and sort of like TV question
because, you know, I don't know how much it is
to hire a helicopter to get like a shot
like you talked about,
but certainly drones have made that a lot cheaper.
So yeah, that's where they have impacted TV and films.
And you also mentioned as well you know uh the the smaller
ones that can sort of like go indoors and fly around people and stuff like that um yeah that
that relates to what is a whoop um oh yeah and uh i i have one here this is actually they were
I have one here.
Actually, they were first called Tiny Whoops.
That's a whoop.
There it is.
Yeah, so it's a really, really tiny drone that you can fly inside.
That's like a Millennium Falcon.
Yeah, they couldn't go out in the wind, right?
If it's a calm enough day, believe it or not,
they can actually go out in the wind.
And, yeah, so those started, people started attaching cameras on these and flying them around the house, which is great for the UK
because, you know, me complaining about the weather again.
And also if your wife's upstairs, your buddy, what do you want?
Show me an emotional face are you angry
or happy all right well i'll be downstairs well you can yeah and then my whoop lands back in my
lap and i go it's just me and you now whoop i i i've definitely done that yes
um they have protectors on the side too,
so if you have nicely painted walls like we have here,
then if you bash into a wall or even a person,
then it's not going to hurt.
In fact, these blades are so small, you could put your finger in there.
On the Millennium Falcon one, you could put your finger in there.
It would just give you a little bit of a oof, like that.
But I used to put it on my head and take it off and hank thought that was
gold yeah and then like that like if i had long hair it could have been a disaster it's all up in
the motor um how far away can a hobby drone flying kilometers from the person flying at
jim's at eight kilometers uh so yeah this is kind of a a tricky one because technically you are not supposed to
let drones go out of your line of sight um but the people that have admitted or shown to do it
um they managed to reach 100 kilometers away what What? Which is, I believe it's about 62 miles.
Yeah, but I play by the rules.
You play by the rules.
You play by the rules.
Yeah.
You keep it in line of sight.
I'm a maverick.
I only have one rule, and that's all the rules.
Okay.
And so if I'm in the desert, if I'm in the flats of the Sahara,
I can see it 8 kilometers away.
Yeah. No, I can't see it 100 kilometers away.
That's far.
And then what's this?
Okay, keep going.
Sorry.
So that's a hobby one, but, of course,
there are more sort of prosumer companies out there,
and they have reached, I think, 205 miles in total.
But that was an autonomous flight.
Yeah.
One of the problems that we have in trying to go far is
because the Earth is curved.
That's a controversial thing to say.
Yeah, you can't see.
Because the Earth is curved, eventually there will be a horizon, and it flies over the horizon.
If we could see even further, if it was a flat place,
but people are fucking idiots.
I don't say that, the kind of curving.
So to go further, you have to go higher than is legal also,
because you have to.
How high can you go?
That's the other one, yeah.
is legal also because you have to how high can you go that's the other one yeah um yeah legally it's 400 feet or 120 meters in most of the world it does it does vary um and that allows for a 100
uh foot buffer for manned aviation which uh the lowest they can fly at is 500 feet so um that's
that's the legal amount this might sound silly how close are we to making a massive one of these
that we just sit in well that's actually like happening like it'll work it would work right
would you would you get in it though i think uber wants to make one i think uber wants to make one or they're trying to make like there's a lot of people trying to make one
it's just do you uh trust them once it got up and running and and there was a few flights under its
belt and lots of stuff and if it was just a computer designated it flies to this area it
has all the sensors i would i would trust it yeah yeah yeah
i don't want to be the first bloke you know i'm not back in the near armstrong of drones
but i i i'd get on it not many people do so yeah and why why we're on these subjects how fast are
hobby drones legally able to fly jim said 50 miles per hour yeah so in the usa at least uh it's um 100 miles an hour
um but that's freedom baby
but uh i in the uk we don't have a limit at the moment oh that's
yeah you have a video where you have one that goes zero to 60 in 0.6 seconds right yeah 0.6 seconds and it got to 130 miles an hour in uh two seconds yeah so it actually it
actually did the quarter mile the same as a uh current formula one car yeah so they're pretty
crazy and that's another area as well formula one has actually
at some of the races they have drone on uh some of the corners and uh so they can follow the cars
and just get extra shots and stuff like that yeah but uh the record um that the guinness record for
how quick a quadcopter can fly one of these these with the four motors. 10 guinnesses.
Yeah, it's 179 miles per hour, and it has to be done in both directions.
But there are unofficial ones of nearly 200 miles an hour.
But the problem with these and helicopters is a certain speed the blades start acting as drag
so you can that's why helicopters manned helicopters I think struggle to get above 200
miles an hour as well but the fastest which I guess you would call a drone, is not powered at all.
It's actually a remote control glider, and it can go over 500 miles an hour with no power.
And the way that it does it is they go on a hill that's very windy, and they just put it into this circle,
and it just gets faster and faster and faster until it gets to 500 miles an
hour so uh yeah you know it would be good if you ever had a time machine a good prank to play would
be out you know to go over to a kitty hawk while the wright brothers were trying to give it a go
with their bloody plane with a bit of cloth on it and then just fly a drone next to it. That would be my thing I'd go back in time to do for a bit of fun.
Yeah, that would be fun.
Arnie.
Arnie, no.
Fuck face.
This isn't your house.
You don't get to growl at people.
Come here.
Come here.
Sorry about that.
What is a five inch and what's it into a two inch?
I don't think you're a fuck face, Arnie.
Yes.
I think you're a nice dog.
You know, Jim got this absolutely right.
It's the diameter of the propeller. Yeah. You know, Jim got this absolutely right.
It's the diameter of the propeller.
Yeah, I put it in there hoping for a temperature joke, which we got.
But yeah, it really is that.
So this is a five-inch propeller, and that's how we measure them.
Strangely, when they start getting smaller like this or like this these are the type of drones that uh people stick like um strip down gopros on
and and do sort of like more film kind of stuff uh when they get down to a smaller propeller size
we go millimeters for some reason after that so like 40 millimeters you know the go the gopro was originally going to be called the either the surf
cam or the skate cam yeah i think either you knew that or someone told us on the podcast no i saw i
saw i knew it i saw it on uh the guy who invented it he was on shark tank and he was like oh maybe
you should change the name because he invented the gopro right he was a billionaire he's like this he goes i originally was calling it i will say skate
fragment i originally was calling it the skate cam so you could put it on your helmet and so
you can see how you skateboarded but then i thought this could be put on other things
smart like and that guy made a billion is that's a smart move that's exactly what we do you can see here um even though we've got a camera that transmits
to our goggles we actually use a better camera are we we film we film a tv with gopros that's
how even like now the gopros changed movies completely because you get into a car you do a car
scene they put two on the windows two on the vision mirrors and all type of stuff you can see
the car driving you can see all the dialogue between the actors it's like before that you used
to have to have what one person in the car doing their dialogue and the cameraman sitting next to
them and then they swap out and another person you you know, a cameraman in the fucking driver's seat and all this bloody stuff.
Yeah, that's really changed things.
Yeah.
It's funny that you sound like you're a fuck face.
And Arnie came over to you.
Yeah.
Okay, anyway, sorry, Arnie.
Does a drone race last longer than sex?
Jim said, oh, yeah, depending on how many times you've blown a load.
I'm presuming it is. Jim said, oh, yeah, depending on how many times you've blown a load. We're assuming, yes.
Your average, it kind of depends on your circumstances, I guess.
The average drone race lasts two minutes,
and that's due to the limitations of batteries, really.
In a drone race, they are giving it full throttle or or ripping balls as you might say yeah full
full throttle sex you can only do two minutes so i don't care what if you if you're going
hammer and tong for two minutes you'll need a break yeah it's too much so ripping balls is
what the definition going as fast as you can like was one of the questions two minutes yeah did you know the
balls to the wall reference i actually didn't know um it's a it's a term that has just come up from
the the drone community so you may be onto something that i didn't yeah no no that's that's
that's the reason that's the reason because i always thought it had something to do with your
testicles i thought it had something to do with that but no it's the it's on the planes you push the lever
all the way forward and what unlikely hobby or sport is closely related to flying diy drones
uh jim said model airplane flying with any changes to video games the answer is actually skateboarding
yeah um which uh seems unlikely but a lot of the terminology uh that is used and a lot of the tricks that we do so
did we cover the question what is freestyle? That was a question before that but I figure
it's gonna be related so maybe it would tie into each other. Yeah yeah yeah so freestyle you know
it's basically trying to do tricks in the air. You can think of our freestyle hobby drones as like a brick.
You throw it up in the air, you do a bunch of tricks,
and then hopefully don't crash when you come out of those tricks.
And similar to skateboarding, although we've got a lot more height and things to work with.
But yeah, skateboarding, there's a lot of people who fly hobby DIY drones
who are skateboarders and the terminology sort of gets passed on.
Yeah.
And besides being a music group in Australia,ia what else is a bando so a
bando is short for abandoned and a part of freestyle let's say i'm gonna say it to orphans
now look at this bando well well i should say abandoned building or um you know office or
something like that.
So there's a lot of Detroit flying, is there?
Probably.
I remember Detroit had all these high towers with windows smashed
out and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Detroit and Atlanta has a big drone scene there, but it's mainly because of
a sort of a high profile kind of drone celebrity type people.
Ah, Medea.
She's always with the drones.
Medea's Drone Christmas.
That's the next film.
So it's abandoned building flying?
Yeah, so it's like freestyle, but doing tricks,
but abandoned buildings, they'll maybe have like holes missing in the roof, you know, like a roof tile missing or windows that are broken and graffiti and things like that.
And it's basically trying to fly these drones very precisely.
And, you know, there's even wall tapping, like, you know, like you're getting skateboarding and stuff.
Right.
I got an idea for a movie.
A couple of drone guys, they go into a bandeau.
They're flying through the tower, flying through the thing.
They either find a body up there, that's the start of the film.
Like a horror film?
Yeah, like a horror film.
Or they fly up and they go on racing through the building and then they see something really horrific on their thing
and do they say something or do they not?
They're witness to a crime.
So that's me movie.
Got it.
Write it up.
Look, it's just an opening scene and it'll be called Drone On
and that's the movie.
And it ends with those drones all coming together
to do a love heart in the sky.
It's a romantic comedy.
It's a romantic comedy.
Okay.
I'm in.
What is a cine-lifter?
I thought it was going to be like a caffeine-infused cinnamon roll,
but no.
No, a cine-lifter is just a bigger drone
that can carry more industry standard cameras so um i've um
do they drop off because i know they use drones we did a field piece on abortion they use drones
to get the pill over to women in amazon don't they use some drones and all that stuff but like
has there ever been any prison breaks that have involved drones have people tried a prison break
with drones uh i don't think, not that I'm aware of.
No, not that I'm aware of.
But this one specifically for cameras.
The center lifter specifically for cameras.
I got another movie.
Yeah.
It's a prison break movie.
And it's like the drone drops a file over.
Like, why don't you just drop a key at this stage?
But, you know, the movie has to go for it.
Got to be the right key.
Yeah, yeah. But you get someone in the know in the drone community that's a prison guard
win him over yeah but he would just walk the key in no he doesn't work at that prison he knows no
other he doesn't work at that prison okay he works another prison sure then the drone has to fly in
and then drops a few packets of cigarettes so that the guy can buy people off. Ah, good movie.
I think that'd be...
I think there has to be a problem with that.
He flies him over shovels and stuff like that.
Is that another romantic comedy?
No, no, no, prison break, prison break.
He flies him over shovels and picks
and all these different things, right?
And the movie's called...
And he has to dig under the wall to get out the thing and
the movie's called over under okay mic drop yeah that's mike push that's what it was like push yeah
yeah um we talked about the name of the biggest consumer where the parts are made all right can
anyone own a drone without any sort of certification qualifications or insurance legally? Jim said,
yeah,
I got one.
No one asked me for anything.
And he stuck with that answer,
even though you probably told him that was wrong.
So yeah.
Yeah.
So,
so in the,
the USA,
if a drone is above 250 grams,
then you have to register it.
No,
it wasn't.
No,
it wasn't.
Okay.
Yeah.
You weighed it. It wasn't above Okay, yeah. You weighed it?
It wasn't above 250 grams.
It's fucking light.
Someone Google Millennium Falcon drone.
Weight.
And it'll have it in its stats.
I bet your money this thing's under 250 grand.
It's as light as air it is.
I'd suggest you Google it when you get back,
maybe after the podcast.
Why?
1.55 pounds.
1.55 pounds?
But this one says 3.8 pounds.
Now convert that to grams because we don't know.
This one says 66 grams.
Well, gram.
Well, either little one.
Either little one like this.
Well, gram.
Three and a half grams is an eighth of an ounce.
And so there you go.
Yeah, it's not something under 256.
You'd be fine. How many ounces is in a pound? 16 ounces? Oh, it's not something under 256. You'd be fine.
But yes, yeah.
How many ounces
in a pound?
16 ounces?
Oh, no, you might be close.
Six.
You'd be close.
Seven ounces
and things.
That was a quarter.
So 28 ounces
and 28 grams per ounce.
Come on, math.
16.
This is far as
old life is.
Yeah, yeah, drugs.
You're close.
16 pounds, 28. One. Wait. I think it's over. Two. Yeah, well. as far as old life he's yeah yeah drugs yeah yeah you're close 16 now he just goes one wait
200 i think it's over two yeah well so i didn't get a license three come and get me um they also
pirated a couple of uh star wars when i was a kid with two vcr machines they had a big bloody
warning there as well they're coming for you did we touch on all this with a remote id and all that
stuff because we did we kind of jumped down here at the beginning.
Yeah, no, we haven't talked about remote ID.
So yeah, remote ID is something that manufacturers are going to have to attach to their drones now.
And it's kind of like an ankle tag for drone operators in that. So it's going to be a device that you fit to your drone.
If you are a DIY drone person, then you don't have to worry about it until the end of 2023.
But by then, all drones are going to have to have this remote ID.
And it basically transmits information about the person operating the drone, where their location is.
And part of the question was, why is it a problem?
And one of the biggest problems is that the people who comply and fit these devices to their drones,
to their drones, then they're complying.
But all you have to do to be a bad actor or operator is just not add the device because it's very difficult
without something transmitted on a drone to actually know
where the person is flying from, you know, going back to you
when you were talking about the drone flying over the football stadium so uh remote ideas something that's uh it's usa only but that usually trickles
down to the rest of the world uh everybody usually follows what the is done in the us
like a couple of years later um so it's a problem because like like, you know, also there's the hacking. So no doubt if a drone manufacturer like DJI puts remote ID on there,
there will be someone that can remove it.
You ever hit a bird?
I'm talking about the animals.
You ever hit a bird?
No.
No.
Do you know what?
Birds, you will never outwit a bird with a drone at least.
you will never outwit a bird with a drone at least.
Obviously, like bigger airliners and stuff and military jets have bird strikes,
but never hit a bird.
Never outwit a bird.
The drone goes up to it and then it quotes Mark Twain
or some shit.
The talk of me being dead has been very exaggerated.
Him and fucking Oscar Wilde.
Oscar Wilde, they always go, people who quote Oscar Wilde,
I've never found any of these quotes that good.
Like, you know that one where he goes,
he's coming into America, Oscar Wilde,
and they go, you got anything to declare?
And he said, only my genius.
And that's been quoted a million times.
Fucking hell, if I was the cunt at customs,
I would just be like, yes, mate, I'm fucking,
what else have you got?
Anything in the bag?
Any fruits and vegetables?
Yeah, like I wouldn't go, oh, very good.
Now, we didn't ask this question,
but it was something about like kind of like the hypocrisy
of drones versus guns kind of thing
because there's going to be a lot of things.
Oh, you wait for my drone routine. there's going to be a lot of things. You wait for my drone routine.
It's got to go viral.
Just kind of going back to what you were talking about with the remote ID
and maybe we could just touch on that a little bit because the question is,
what is the issue do hobby drones have in common with gun control?
But that's not really the question, right?
Yeah.
question right um um yeah so um here in the uk um we have guns um and but we have gun control it's not a right and um obviously you know people like guns and it it's a hobby um but uh drones uh
But drones, you know, all over the world are being heavily regulated and it seems unnecessary to an unnecessary degree.
Maybe just in the US you could just use the example.
Like they're going to be more regulated than guns, right?
Yes, yes.
Drones aren't in the Constitution, bro.
Yeah, but are they more dangerous than guns in the U.S.?
Right.
There'll be more regulation.
It'll just be another thing in the U.S. that's more regulated than guns.
Right to bear drones.
I don't see it nowhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, true.
But I kind of, even though I don't have a gun, it's not a hobby of mine,
uh you know i don't have a gun it's not a hobby of mine i kind of i do sympathize with the people who just like guns you know here i do too i do too people don't think i understand liking something
and that you're not being irresponsible but as i said one fuckwit yeah well one percent of the
fuckwit like just one not just one because there's enough people that's more than one but it's the one percent of the fuckheads one percent of fuckheads
yeah yeah yeah the only difference is is that we have you know there's been no fatalities from
a drone uh hitting a manned aircraft which is what all of the regulations are really being put in
place it's like they are trying to find a solution to a problem
that doesn't exist yet and it's sort of like they're going
really far with it.
Can you foresee a drone that's so big that it has like a size
of a school bus on it and that's how we travel around now
and there's just someone in a computer and we all just...
Is that Jetson future happening?
I definitely think... someone in a computer and we all just is that jetson future happening um i i definitely how far do you ask me how far do you think drones will go what do you think will be the limit to
what will go when you say how far do you mean like distance no no no how far in technology
how far in the evolution of drones, how far will,
what invention that is drone-based do you think is as far as we'll go?
Do you think there'll be manned aircrafts with several people on them that are drones?
Do you think we will have big drones that are shipping container ships
across the country rather than having trucks?
Like how far can these things go?
rather than having trucks?
Like how far can these things go?
I think it's possible to have, yeah, manned drones.
The problem really is the batteries.
It's the same with electric vehicles.
I've invented this, a battery that never runs out.
No one listens to me.
Once we get that up and I'm the ideas man, right? I put this idea out there and no one's picked up my great idea.
Battery that never runs out.
So we get that technology.
So that's it.
That's in the pipeline.
Don't worry about that.
The batteries are getting better.
I'm not worried then.
Well, if batteries aren't a problem, then yeah, there's no limits.
But that is the current limit.
Could you have a gasoline one?
Could you have one that's filled with fuel sounds heavy uh it's carrying container ships and people man it's a big
ass drone man we kind of have those helicopters you would say would be that version i'm talking
with four propellers man four quadcopter um i think i think when it comes to having uh multi road
so we do well played young man well played he's not young he's younger than me yeah okay
um all right andy here's a part of the show called Dinner Party Facts. We ask our guest, our expert, to give us one fact, obscure, interesting,
that our listeners can use to impress people.
What do you got for us?
Okay, actually, I have two.
Is that okay?
That's fine.
You can use one of them if you like.
Throw them both out.
So if you see a drone flying around and it looks like it's flying erratic,
it's probably somebody who's very experienced and is flying one of these
and they are flying it for fun because they have a mental health issue.
And for me personally, that is why I got into this,
because you can't think of anything else
when you are flying these things it's 100 concentration so i want to put a positive
message out there that if you see something like that then um it's it's you know it's just somebody
uh having fun people who have disabilities actually benefit a lot from drones because, you know, for example, if someone is in a wheelchair
and they're flying a drone.
They've already had good work with the controls with their thumbs
on the chair.
Those skills would cross over, wouldn't they?
Sense of motion, though, yeah.
Yeah, a sense of freedom that they didn't have.
But then, you know, the second one it's more of more of a military
one and it's not my area of expertise but uh it is reported that there are more military drone
pilots being trained than actual manned pilots so that was that's probably a good one to say
wow yeah and when and when you when you become a military drone pilot,
do you still have to go through fucking boot camp?
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Give me 10 push-ups, maggot.
And I'm just like this.
I fly the drones, man.
And I'm the best of the best.
Don't make me do push-ups.
I'm 300 pounds.
I'm a professional drone guy.
I'm vital to the war effort.
Stop making me climb this rope over this fucking wall.
They're going to lower the draft age to 13.
Well, if you want to see Andy's flying some drones
or if you want any information on drones,
he's got video tutorials.
He's got product reviews for consumer drones on there
if you're interested too. Go subscribe to his channel it's andy rc on youtube there andy rc
channel uh go check it out i was watching a couple videos on there really cool and thanks for being
here andy andy that was that was a place i i was very interested in that in the end well at the end
if you say if you said to me the beginning there we're going to do drones, I'd be like, here we go.
No, but that was good.
I enjoyed that.
That was good.
Thanks a lot.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're ever at a party and someone goes,
I reckon you could put a school bus on a drone and fly people across,
go, I don't know about that, and then walk away.
Good nightnight Australia.