I Don't Know About That - Mountain Biking

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

Turns out Jim is far from an expert on mountain biking. Good thing our expert Brett Tippie ( @bretttippie ) was here to guide us along! Jim's new special "High & Dry" is now available on Netflix...! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! ADS: Shipstation: Use promo code: JIM to get a 60 day free trial. http://www.shipstation.com

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Starting point is 00:00:37 You should have already watched it. The special's out. Change comedy as we know it. Yeah, I have to stay indoors because all the people want to put me in parades and whatnot. Hello, everyone. Hello. Welcome to the I Don't Know About That podcast. As I said, my special's out, so it was a funny, cute way of plugging it without actually plugging it. But go watch that.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And also, if you're coming, the UK tour is all but sold out. It's very, very close to sold out. We added a show in Manchester. We added a show in London. I'm here with a regular group of people that we always have here. I can't remember their names. And how are you all going? Fantastic. Great. Well, it sounds like you all want to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:19 We do. Yeah. Definitely. We're excited. Okay, you're excited? Yeah. Yeah, what shows have you got coming up, Forrest? I will be at the Comedy Cellar.
Starting point is 00:01:29 In Las Vegas. Las Vegas. The Las Vegas one. Thank you for saying that. Don't go down to the one in New York because Forrest won't be there. I'm only going to be there a couple days in March. It's March 4th and 5th, I believe. I'll tell you right now.
Starting point is 00:01:42 But I'll be there March 4th and 5th and then um I got some a bunch of shows around LA and stuff but then I'm going to be in Europe with some guy yeah we're going around Europe Milan is picked up in the sales we were teasing Milan it's going gangbusters now and I just did I just I don't do much press but because Milan was a bit slow I did uh Italian Rolling Stone. Oh. They have their own Rolling Stones. They have their own Rolling Stones, yeah. I did that.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I don't think I got the cover. What do they talk about? Like, why is it Italian? I don't even know any Italian. Is it just the new version of... They've got lots of Italian rock bands. You know all the big Italian rock bands Yeah who?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Giuseppe and the Meatballs Oh I don't know them They were an older band They rivaled the Beatles They were the Beatles of Italy Led Zeppolini Led Zeppolini Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:35 Bruce Springsteen-y Yeah The Rastinis Yeah Madonna the actual idol Oh yeah yeah Okay Anyone seen Madonna's face Lately like I don't like to shame
Starting point is 00:02:49 People and she's saying That it's people slut shaming And ageism We can't comment that She looks like one of those characters from the dark crystal Fucking weird man She looks Just go to her Instagram
Starting point is 00:03:03 Go to her Instagram with her own filters It's not like she's older I'm not saying wow she's old She looks odd Because she's probably gotten a lot of work You think maybe She's our new Michael Jackson man Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:18 Not good Like a surgeon She looks like She looks like if you wasn't a weird outfit. She looks like if you got the cowardly lion and shaved him down. Oh, my goodness. You heard it here first. You know when he's like this?
Starting point is 00:03:35 That's what I reckon Madonna's like. Like a virgin. She can't sing with that face. Like a virgin. It's a little bit jigsaw. It's a little bit jigsaw. It's a little bit jigsaw. She could do that for Halloween tomorrow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Oh, God. My brother used to love Madonna. I hope she's doing well. Doesn't he still like her? He doesn't admit to it anymore, but he liked Madonna. He was the president of the fan club. He loved Madonna. Loved Madonna.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But so we've got Madonna's looking weird. Any other artists that we want to poke fun at for their plastic surgery? We don't really need to. It's just the intro of the podcast. Yeah, I don't know. Just going to promote your shows. Bit of fun. We've got some shows.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Madonna looks like a cowardly lion shaved down. Are there any other shows you want people to come out to on the tour? Nah. Everything else is selling fine? Everything's selling fine. Milan's the only one we've got to... Look, if you're living in Europe, if you're a european person you come out and see me i'll be i'll come into a country near you except for france i'll tell you what what
Starting point is 00:04:30 lisbon in portugal needs a bit it's a big room it's like a 5 000 seater yeah and it's half sold so there's still like two and a half thousand so if you want to come and see me in lisbon yeah i've never been to portugal portugal's fun man i love the chicken yeah i i it's i've been to spain and i was in the same country, but they're right next door to each other. They speak a different language. They do. They do indeed.
Starting point is 00:04:49 But I've enjoyed Nando's, and I know it's from South Africa. All you're going by is the chicken. Yeah, I like the chicken. Portuguese chicken's very popular in Australia, so I'm looking forward to the Portuguese chicken, and I hope it's exactly the same as the stuff in Australia. I think it'll be different for some reason. No, I heard there's a lot of cool stuff to do.
Starting point is 00:05:06 What are you looking forward to in Europe? Iceland. Yeah, I know. Forrest is obsessed with Iceland. He says, since I've been a small boy, I've dreamed of going. I didn't say small boy. I didn't. Not small boy.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I was being nice. I'm assuming you've never been small. Since you were younger, right? Everything since you were younger. So how long have you been dreaming of Iceland? When you say dreaming, I don't know if dreaming is a... You're a single man. How long have you wanted to go there?
Starting point is 00:05:31 A long time. Okay. I'll go visit the elves with you, the little cottages. Are you basing this on Eurovision? That's real. I love that movie, Eurovision. I love it. But they do have that.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That's a real thing. You can go give the elves little things. I mean, I want to see all that stuff. I want to see any of that weird stuff, but I also want to see the natural. I mean, because even the natural areas, there's just things that only exist in Iceland that only look like that. Do you know they have a dating app there that you can put in all your details to find out if you're fucking a cousin or not?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Because it's such a small population. Oh, wow. No, I don't know. Yeah. So everyone's sort of, there's like 10 families it's a very small place and they're all sort of like hello lars oh no not like that yeah yeah so forrest you're going to come in here with your new gene pool they're all going to be all over you like a fat kid on a cupcake they're gonna fucking go you you're gonna have so many blonde icelandic people
Starting point is 00:06:22 wanting to blow you it'll be. I'm just looking forward to sitting and watching it all happen. I don't know if that's going to happen. Alright, so if you're Icelandic and you're coming to the show and you'd like a gruff American guy, I've got the guy for you. Start direct messaging Forrest Shaw
Starting point is 00:06:39 from Iceland. Look, this worked for me. Last time you told people to direct message, I got a bunch. I did this. I'm the wingman. I don't move or talk to people. I just this worked for me. Last time you told people to direct message, I got a bunch. I did this. I'm the wingman. I don't move or talk to people. I just say it on podcasts. I'm the podcast wingman.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And you want to get laid, Kelly? I'll sort you out. No, I'm good. Thank you, though. Do not DM Kelly. Yeah, don't DM Kelly. Unless you really think you have something to say.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yes, yeah. And then give it a go. So, Iceland. I'm excited to go there. And then give it a go so iceland i'm excited to go there and then uh we're going to italy a day earlier me and me i've never been to italy ever so that'll be cool i hear the past is good that's what i've heard yeah yeah milan the height of fashion yeah you know me yeah yeah yeah fashion me yeah yeah you know what they say about me what do they say they don't say they say? They don't say anything. They say, yeah, there's a lot of different T-shirts,
Starting point is 00:07:27 and they're all a bit of fun. Yeah, and hats. Yeah, yeah, hats and T-shirts. I'm going to get a Gucci hat. What else do they make there? I once had sex with a girl in Italy. I once had sex with a girl in Italy when I was about 20 years old or 21 years old, and I was traveling around.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I was in Italy, and I had sex with her, i based everything i must have been 22 then 21 i based everything everything i said to her i got from life is beautiful so i know i knew how to say bonjourno prince of pesa iamik yamo jim right which was enough to get me, hello, princess, my name's Jim. And I was better looking back then. And so she was like, ah, see, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then we sort of, it was loud music, so we couldn't hear. And then we, I think there was drugs or there's definitely alcohol. You know, there was definitely alcohol, so we drank. And then afterwards we had sex and we were still sort of hanging out in the room.
Starting point is 00:08:20 But like when you see people who like the international language of love is a load of bullshit because after when you're laying with a person who can't speak english and you can't speak their english you're like a couple of morons just looking at each other like um and i was like blue blue and she's like see blue blue and i'm like yeah blue oh god uh now we're running out of things um kids tv show uh tv tv portuguese chicken all right um bent sail in pennsylvania windsor ontario this weekend sold out okay don't worry about it just go out and stand outside but they look there's always, we always throw 50 tickets on the day.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So if you want to come along, you know, you can come, but it's sold out. Go to jimjeffries.com. You can check out all the shows that are in England,
Starting point is 00:09:13 Ireland, Scotland, all the European tour. And then after that, there's a couple gigs in Vegas and Reno and Santa Rosa, California. Oh yeah, I've got European,
Starting point is 00:09:22 I've got American gigs I have to do. Yeah, yeah, but go to that and then IDCAT on Instagram IDCAT podcast on Instagram actually.
Starting point is 00:09:29 That's how you go. Follow us on there. There's way more people listening to us. And the Patreon has been a lot of fun of late. So go there.
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Starting point is 00:11:21 All right, please welcome our guest, Brett Tippy. Hello, Brett. Now it's time to play yes no yes no yes no yes no judging a book by its cover all right so it's gonna be difficult for me to see brett but i saw brett before ah here we go here's brett uh he's got artwork behind him he might be an artist but i recognize you from so are you an actor brett artwork behind him. He might be an artist. But I recognize you from... Are you an actor, Brett?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Am I allowed to answer yes or no? Yeah, you can say whatever you want. No? What was that? No? You either are or you aren't. I mean, I've always tried to be a comedian, but they won't take me seriously. Oh, right. Brett does like to tell jokes. In our pre-interview, he told us a lot of jokes.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm not going to say they were good. I'm not going to say they were bad. I'm not going to say they were bad. They were jokes. They were there. They exist in the world. So, Brett, do you work in entertainment? Sometimes. Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Okay. Is this a topic that is taught in school? No. No. No. Okay. This is something I'm thinking you've never done, but you've done something similar to it. that is taught in school? No. No. No, okay. This is something I'm thinking you've never done, but you've done something similar to it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oh. It's like a, there's a world of this activity and this is a subset of that world. Yeah, but I don't think you've done the subset. You've done the activity, but not the subset of this activity. Does that help you at all?
Starting point is 00:12:45 No. Is it something physical? Is it a physical activity? Is it something that people do for fun? Yes. Yes, okay. Something that people do for fun. Is it skydiving?
Starting point is 00:12:56 No. No. But it is extreme. You're on the right path. Bungee jumping? Well, no. Get on a path. That's a real stretch.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Because of the bungee, you see. Get on a path. That's a real stretch. Because of the bungee, you see. He knows what he's doing. Get used to this. He knows what he's doing. Kelly and I were on Zoom with him for 15 minutes yesterday. Get used to this. Is it hang gliding? No.
Starting point is 00:13:18 No. All right, give up. Okay, it's something you do on the ground. I don't even know if you've ever done this, but your son does this. You teach your kid how to do it. If you learn this, you never forget. Once you learn...
Starting point is 00:13:33 I'll ride a bike. Bike, yeah. I've ridden a bike. I know you've ridden a bike, but we're talking about mountain biking. I've ridden mountain bikes. You've gone mountain biking down a mountain? I've done things.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I'm Australian. I've done that. Down a mountain? In my early... In like 18, 19. Okay, I didn't know. I don't picture you mountain biking? I've done things. I'm Australian. I've done that. Down a mountain? In my early, in like 18, 19. Okay, I didn't know. I don't picture you mountain biking. I've done things.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah, okay. I'm not quite a good bike rider. All right, let me introduce... I can pop a wheelie. I don't know if I can now, but I could back in the day on a BMX. Brett Tippie is a Canadian dual sport athlete in mountain biking and snowboarding, hailing from Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada. He was a pioneer in the sport of free ride mountain biking during the 80s and 90s and is
Starting point is 00:14:10 considered one of the godfathers of free ride. Brett was inducted into the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame in 2010. Brett Tippie is the lead reporter and web host for Pinkbike.com, the largest mountain bike and action sports website in the world, where he covers exclusive events like Crankworx, Sea Otter, Red Bull Rampage, rampage world championships and many more you can find him on instagram at brett tippy which is b-r-e-t-t another t-i-p-p-i-e and then on youtube brett tippy official or on facebook brett tippy official uh thanks for being here brett let us know a little bit more about your life and mountain biking in general. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, I'm Canadian and I've been snowboarding and mountain biking since 1983, so I guess like 40 plus years and still addicted, but I'm not jumping off cliffs quite as big as I used to, so I'm doing a lot of announcing and doing some hosting for webisodes and basically a little more work on the mic, but still I'm actually the second oldest pro mountain biker still making a living from riding bikes, but I mix it in with a little bit of coaching, a little bit of guiding, a little bit of work on the mic,
Starting point is 00:15:20 and still in the game somehow. I can't seem to get enough do you know no a mountain biker called nikki gudex she's gorgeous yeah i know her yeah yeah she was in the year below me at school she was all right yeah she was oh no way we went to high school together she wouldn't have had a bar of me in high school no no no but i had a big crush on nikki gudex oh we all had a big crush on Nikki Gudex when she was on the World Cup. All right. Is she still going? No, she's not still racing,
Starting point is 00:15:49 but I've seen her Instagram kind of recently and she still looks hot. Yeah. Thank God. You just stumbled on it by accident, didn't you, mate? Yeah, right. Yeah, like at 1.30 in the morning. Hey, you can't knock masturbation.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It's sexual stuff when you love. Oh, I remember him. Hello, Mrs. Goodix. All right, well, I'm going to ask Jim some questions about mountain biking, and he's going to crush it. I know Nikki Goodix. I just threw a name at her. She's got to keep saying her name.
Starting point is 00:16:24 That's got to be worth a point. She's got a point for that, yeah, Nikki Goodix. That is one point, yeah, yeah. That's a to crush it. I know Nicky Gudix. I just threw a name at it. She's got to keep saying her name. That's got to be worth a point. She's got a point for that. Yeah, Nicky Gudix. That is one point. Yeah, that's a good name drop. Yeah, yeah. At the end of him answering these questions, Brett, you're going to grade him on his accuracy, 0 through 10.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Kelly's going to grade him on confidence. I'm going to grade him on Cedro. Add all the scores together. If 0 or 21 through 30, KOM. Saints for King of the Mountain. All right. These are just terms I looked up, by the way, but I don't even know if these are real terms.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's quite accurate, actually. Before you start, did you get the questions I just emailed you? Because they're a little spicier. Oh, yeah. Oh, those terms? Spicier. The phrases? Yeah, I was going to do the end of the question.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'll ask a few of those and we can just talk about it. Spicier? We made this sexual. The phrases? Yeah, yeah. I was going to do it at the end of the question. Okay, okay. I'll ask a few of those and we can just talk about it. Spice, yeah. We made this sexual. I can't even wait to see where Jim goes with this. Yeah, we take the bike seat off and just go down the hill. I feel like we make every topic sexual somehow. Yeah, that's true. So 21 through 30, KOM, you're king of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:17:18 If you score a tally, 11 through 20, Italian pit stop. Do you know what that is? Nah, I looked it up. I'm going to go bad. It's when the fastest members on a group ride take a break on the trail, and then when the slowest rider rolls up, they take off. And then they stop and eat bread and cheese with some cured meat. And then zero through 10, you're a wonky clunker.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You get what that is. Yeah. Okay. When was the first mountain bike mass produced? Mass produced. Although they were around when I was a kid. I don't remember. I remember them sort of coming in sort of into vogue more.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I'm going to say 1978. All right. What percentage of the U.S. participates annually in mountain biking? What percentage of the U.S.? Like out of our whole population? Yeah. 1%. 1%.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah. Okay. Participate like on an elite level? No, they don't have to be like professional, but like they've gone out onto a trail on mountain biking. Oh, okay. Annually, every year. Like you haven't, didn't do it last year.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, 5%. Okay. Is mountain biking an Olympic sport? No. Okay. year yeah five percent okay is mountain biking an olympic sport no okay what was it sound like the wrong answer this is this is a general bike question what was the original bicycle called do you know that the penny farthing okay what advanced that was the first one right i don't know the penny found that one where they they didn't figure out the cranks so they went how can we make these big wheel moves move you can have the crank on the big wheel like they didn't invent chains yet so they had the big wheel and a little wheel at the back i don't know bring
Starting point is 00:18:53 them back i reckon what advanced technology made changing gears on mountain bikes easier um what advanced in technology yeah um it would have been having the gears on the thing there and having the... What is all that called? No, there's also multiple choice answers. Yeah, I'm going to say it's when they got the actual, the disc that rotates that the chain's on, when they started putting multiple discs.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Okay. What are the different disciplines of mountain biking? started putting multiple discs. Okay. What are the different disciplines of mountain biking? Uphill, downhill, flat, and through trees. I think you'll probably get some points there. I don't know, because through trees is a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Through trees sounds hard. What is free ride mountain biking? And keeping in mind, I said Brett is known as the pioneer in the sport, one of the godfathers of free ride. I would say that free riding isn't a race as such, but free riding would be like for style points and stuff like that. So how smoothly you can get down. You'd probably be – there would be a judge scorement on the scorement on the uh judge score on the free riding where the other writing would be purely time-based do
Starting point is 00:20:12 you know anything else about it like who started it when it started free riding or nikki gudex started it after she left some eyes high and she would have graduated in 1993. So 1994, Nikki Gudex. And where? Final answer. Okay. Mount Baldy. Mount Baldy comes back into the podcast. All right. Who is the best free rider?
Starting point is 00:20:35 It would be Brett, wouldn't it? I don't know. Is that your answer? Yeah. Okay. In his day. Not now. He just seems to coach.
Starting point is 00:20:42 To be fair, I think Brett put this question in there. Yeah, I think it's going to be brett how do free ride mountain bikes differ from regular bicycles or racing mountain bikes um i assume they probably have a bit a bit more suspension okay this this next question we sort of we'll get to that others um What's best to wear while free riding? Helmet, pads of all that type of stuff, and then a light type of airy top, like a Hawaiian shirt or a muumuu or a caftan.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But not a long muumuu or a caftan because you've got the chains and the bike. So short muumuu. Short muumuu. Okay, tank because you've got the chains and the bike. So short muumuu. Short muumuu. Okay. What is the Red Bull Rampage? Red Bull, they like to sponsor anything that's extreme, extreme, extreme
Starting point is 00:21:34 with Red Bull. Yeah, with the Red Bull Rampage. It would be a big race once a year sponsored by Red Bull. When did the off-road racing start? Do you know? That was in the summer of 82. Okay. You sounded pretty confident.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I should guess. What kind of injuries are common? Leg breaks. Oh, that one. That's from mountain biking. Yeah, limb breakage. Limbs will break. Did you know this was from mountain biking?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah. Oh, well, of course. I always thought you just tried to kill yourself. You think I slipped my arm? Yeah, I just never. I thought, better not ask him any questions. He's a self-harmer. I assumed it was a shark or something.
Starting point is 00:22:08 He's obviously going through things. Wait, you thought this was a shark? Why not? You're an ocean man. Sure. Okay, it's a mountain bike. Yeah, I thought it was you. Mountain bike accident.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I thought it was you bloody putting on your... Well, we haven't heard about the mountain bike yet. All right, so what was the question? What injuries? Limb breakage. Yeah. Skull crackage. Yeah, a lot of crackage.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And ankle bending. That's it? Yeah, they're the big ones. No emotional. They can also be wheelchairs and stuff like that. You go to the top of the handlebars. It's a very dangerous sport, the mountain biking. What were the repack races?
Starting point is 00:22:40 The repack races. Yeah. Repack, R-E-P-A-C-a-c well they followed the pack races and they were the people who were eliminated from the pack and they got to repack and and it's like in like it's like when you're in like a game show and it's like you've been out you get to go to second kitchen and see if you can cook your way back in that's what the repack races are yeah my favorite part of this podcast when you make up an answer and then you think of something like, oh, here's a good example. You get excited about it.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I can tell right there. It's like it's in the kitchen. All right, a couple more questions. How has BMX influenced mountain biking? Well, the movie BMX Bandits. Yeah, I know. We did a BMX episode. Yeah, which is one of the most important of all the movies.
Starting point is 00:23:23 BMX was like they started showing stunts, you know, like jumping off and all that type of stuff. So people sort of wanted to make these hybrid mountain bike BMX bikes so they could also go down a mountain. But a BMX does not have gears historically. And so they thought what we'll do is we'll make a BMX but with gears and suspension.
Starting point is 00:23:44 How did it influence it? The tricks? Tricks, okay. What is the speed record for mountain bikes in miles per hour? Like on a flat surface or a hill? They're going to be going down a hill, I'm assuming. They're going down a hill. I would assume, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 That would have been Simon Buckley in 92. Simon Buckley in 92. Yeah. The fall of, which was weird because there were so many leaves on the ground and you think that would actually give resistance, but not for the Buckman. And he went down at 98 miles an hour. We still haven't cracked the 100. We're trying, we're trying.
Starting point is 00:24:26 People get close to the Buckman, 94s and stuff like that. But you've got to understand, with the equipment he was using in the time that he had it, it's still a remarkable feat. What are clunkers? This is with a K. K-L-U-N-K-E-R-Z. Clunkers. Clunkers.
Starting point is 00:24:40 They're rocks women shove up their pussies. What? How does that even make sense yeah because they walk along and they fall out clunk you got a couple of clunkers in their life why would they do that pussy rocks
Starting point is 00:24:54 what's her name Gwyneth Paltrow yeah she has clunkers she sells clunkers on her site it makes your floor good and strong but if they fall out they they're clunkers. Unless you have a tile, then you crack it. All right, last question. What's the longest recorded dirt jump distance?
Starting point is 00:25:13 Oh, wow. Yeah, off the thing. I'd say it would be a big ramp, but dirt. It's not the big ramp like off the X Games, is it? It's just a dirt ramp. Yeah, this is out. 36 meters. 36 meters.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So about 100 feet, 120 feet, something. Okay. Brett, how did Jim do on his knowledge of mountain biking? Zero through 10. 10's the best. 18 questions. He's got... Wow, you're really...
Starting point is 00:25:44 Seven wrong. Really? That's not bad. Fucking boo. So 11 out of 18. 11 out of 18. I'll give him a seven. Seven.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I'm surprised by that. All day, every day. Seems like there's a lot more, but okay. Mickey Goodex. I'll give you the expert. How do you do on confidence? In the beginning, we were not super confident, but once we got to Simon Buckley and his you know, the way he changed the game
Starting point is 00:26:06 for mountain biking. Yeah, it brought you up to a 9.2. Wow, 16.2. Alright, you know what? I'll give you 10. King of the Mountain. You're in the 20s. Call me King of the Mountain. King of the Mountain. Is that song big, Brett, in the
Starting point is 00:26:22 bicycling era for Midnight Oil's King of the Mountain? You know, I've heard it played in the bars, but usually the older bars. Oh, are there bars for mountain bike folk where you all come around and you drink water and you powerades and all that stuff? Or is there a big drinking culture in the mountain bike culture? Oh, there's a big drinking culture, yeah. Lots of drugs, lots of drinking with the freeride crew.
Starting point is 00:26:45 More of the racing crew are more athletes. They drink the water, and all the freeriders are full partiers. So this is like Whistler. There's more bars than there is hotels. Yeah, yeah. You just flip your revision mirror up. You know what they say? Alcoholics go to meetings, and drunks go to parties.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Ah, that's true, that. I always consider myself a drunk not an alcoholic yeah that's all relative alright Brett when was the first mountain bike mass produced Jim said 1978 three years off it was 1981 by a fellow named Mike Senior who started Specialized
Starting point is 00:27:21 and the model was called a Stumpjumper and I actually had a buddy who got one of those, and that's when I started mountain biking. I tried it in 1981. That's what I broke my arm on, a Stumpjumper. I had a Specialized Stumpjumper, but they had different versions of it through time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I can't imagine you in a Stumpjumper. It still makes them today, but they're obviously improved. But that was the original mass-produced mountain bike. Although there was a guy uh named joe breeze who um oh the breeze man oh yeah right the breeze man made made a bike earlier than that uh like 78 uh when jim said but he didn't mass produce them um and there was a fellow uh i was getting mixed up about uh who was it it was uh tom ritchie and he started a company and he made three to four hundred bikes in his first year in 79 but mike
Starting point is 00:28:11 senior you know made them mass produced on the assembly line and really cranked it out there now specializes a multi multi-million dollar company is there a patent on the mountain bikes because it feels like all the companies make them now or is it is it not that way like does mongoose make one certain certain like types of suspension or certain um you know designs of specific parts of the bike but you can't patent the whole bike um but you can patent a style of suspension like the suspension that i use on a yt industries is a four bar which means it has four points that pivot and you can you can patent specific little parts do they still have the sissy bar did you call it that in america the sissy bar the girls bit that goes down like that on a girl's bike it has a it doesn't have the cross so the dress can hang in yeah i think that that never made sense to me
Starting point is 00:29:05 because the guys needed that because your balls you know you're on the seat yeah but you when you crashed yeah but it gave you more room to fall and hurt your balls even more but it just you mentioned that because a lot of the designs now have that incorporated into it and there is a bit of a v valley shape that will save your balls from getting hammered on the top tube, it's called. That's a clunker. Yeah, we've all clunked our balls hard on the top tube or the stem. Is that a clunker? Did I just guess a clunker?
Starting point is 00:29:35 Smashing your balls on the bar? Well, what's a clunker? Is it when rocks women shove up their pussies? Or is it what Jim just said? I don't shove it. I was a bit crass just then. They place them in their pussies. is it what Jim just said? I don't shove it. I was a bit crass just then. They place them in their pussies. What is a clunker?
Starting point is 00:29:48 A clunker is one of the original mountain bikes that were R&D'd by the crew from Marin County which is like the birthplace of mountain biking in the world in California. They took 1930s cruisers and put fat tires
Starting point is 00:30:04 on them and eventually gears and stronger brakes. And they made early mountain bikes, which were affectionately called clunkers. And they rode them down a track called the Repack, which is one of the next questions. Oh, yeah, you can get to that, yeah. And they called it the Repack. Can I say that now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Repack.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Repack to Mount Boldy. Yep. Yeah. And so with the technology they had back then, they had to repack the bearings every run to go biking. So they had to repack the bearings full of grease. And so they just called it the repack. Every time they had to do that?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Every run. Oh, well, that's very inconvenient. So yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know, I actually had a very cool opportunity to go ride with the original clunkers, Otis Guy and Charlie Kelly and Joe Breeze. And they took bikes off the shelf at the museum in Marin. And they wore their same clothes that they wore in the 70s. No helmets. And we rode the repack, the original downhill race. Myself and Hans Ray rode with them.
Starting point is 00:31:08 We had electric mountain bikes with hydraulic gears and all the stuff, and we're riding with these old legends on their original bikes that they dusted off from the shelf in the museum for a little video that we're making. How do you have an electric one? It sounds like cheating having an electric one. Oh, it's full cheating, but it's only cheating if it's a race. Yeah, if you're just out there for fun.
Starting point is 00:31:28 But then just get a motorbike or just drive to the top of the hill and drive back down. When you're going downhill, you're not going electric, right? Just uphill. No, no, then you're coasting. Yeah, when you pedal, a tiny little electric engine kicks in and saves energy, and you get to go twice as far. But when you're going downhill, it's the same as a regular bike. And those guys, is that Marin Bicycles?
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's the same people that started Marin Bicycles? Well, no, it's in the county of Marin, but Marin is a specific brand. And this repack downhill was in Marin County, which is just out of San Francisco. Now, the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame, which you were a member of, is that a real place or is it in the hearts and minds of children everywhere is it on the top actually uh it's a really cool building and they have so many sick old bikes like the original mountain bikes or bicycles that were you know like a precursor to a mountain bike like a fat tire cruiser um and like modified bmxs and
Starting point is 00:32:21 then they've got current world champion bikes and um are you on a park or is there a statue of you is there a shrine no there should be though i think i got a helmet in there is there every time that someone gets inducted into the hall of fame is there a big debate like oh how has mickey lewis not gotten in this is bullshit totally totally like you have to get nominated. You have to get nominated, and then people vote on it, and there's people that are in there that, you know, might be a private voice club because they know somebody or they're popular, but some people are very skilled
Starting point is 00:33:02 that aren't in there. I think Jim's dying. I think Jim's dying. I think Jim's dying. Jim was so offended that you didn't know that he mountain biked, but he's dying. I just had my own saliva go down the wrong windpipe. Extreme sports.
Starting point is 00:33:16 The only windpipe. First drink? I don't think I'm ready for extreme mountain biking I do that like laying in bed that goes down the wrong thing and I wake up coughing my wife thinks that
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'm like really fragile human being yeah two hole system I've talked about this on stage do you ever bite your tongue in your sleep
Starting point is 00:33:39 no that's a kind of a thing if you bite your tongue in your sleep because you wake up sore and feeling stupid. It's a double whammy. You're like,
Starting point is 00:33:47 I must be the dumbest animal on this earth. I've just bitten my own tongue. I've done the one where you get acid reflux and then you wake up. Have you woken up with cramps in your legs yet?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that just happened to you recently? Yeah, that was my first one. I'm a veteran in that scenario. Yeah, I got forest. I said I had a cramp while sleeping.
Starting point is 00:34:03 He's like, yeah. Yeah, get ready join the club that's how you wake up uh brett what percentage of u.s of the u.s participates annually in mountain biking uh jim said five percent it's ten percent ten percent yeah but in a meaningful way not just yeah i i might you did it the other day in hawaii that doesn't mean you're participating in mountain biking of course it does i did it the other day in Hawaii. That doesn't mean you're participating in mountain biking. Of course it does. I did it.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I went down a volcano. Yeah, but in a tour guide. No, it wasn't. They take you up and they let you off on your own. No, no, no. I wasn't there. I think that qualifies. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I went down a volcano in Maui and they drive you up there and then you go down on your own. Now, it wasn't like free riding or off-roading like that, but we were in you have to you really have to feather the brakes down that thing or else you're gonna It's gonna be tough. But yeah, it's loose and dry Like it was rough battery and I don't know I don't mountain bike as much as I used to and Thought I was gonna die People's in the States Casually a mountain bike. Yeah, but you know to be honest, you know, like Jim's probably right. 5% would probably be the more hardcore crew.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So I think we're both right. So I think I'll give him the point. Yeah. Because I did it one time. I don't do it as much as I used to, but one of the last times I did, I did the, well, this is the next question. Is mountain biking an Olympic sport? Jim said no.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Yes. Yes. Well, not in all forms. But it is actually only Olympic sport in cross country, which is only one small microcosm of mountain biking. That's like the fitness side of mountain biking. That's like the guys who are like marathon racers. So when did it get into the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:35:36 I don't remember seeing this in the Olympics. When did it get in the Olympics? The first year was 1996 in Atlanta. Yeah. And it was won by Bart Bregens from the Netherlands. And Thomas Fischnett, who was supposed to win, got silver. He's from Switzerland. So you competed in the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:35:53 I got third. And one of my friends from my hometown, she got the silver medal in the women's. And there was a very attractive Italian girl who always wore gold shiny shorts. That was her trademark. And she won. And then Alison Sador, my friend, was the silver medalist right behind her. And third was American. Must have been a good view.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Susan Giammattei. I know. I don't know why you mentioned the shorts, Brett. It was an Italian woman with gold shorts. She had a killer body. And she had these gold, shiny shorts. Yeah, yeah. And it was her trademark.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And I had to mention it. There's no canceling the mountain bike. What's her name? I want to see these shorts. I'll tell you if they're any good. Paola Pezza. What's her name? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Paola Pezza. Paola. Paola Pezza. P-A-O-L-A. Okay, Jack. Paola Pezza. P-A-O-L-A. Okay, Jack, this is your job. P-E-Z-Z-O. Shorts. Putting shorts after her name.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah, let me have a look at this. Paola Pezza. Jack's got porn on his computer. It just showed up in his recent thing. Like, there's nothing wrong with it. You're a young man. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 There's nothing wrong with her. Yeah, get a picture oh yeah nothing wrong with her yeah get a picture up oh yeah that's a front cleavage one there that's something else i'm like there she is yeah piola piola yeah she deserves the gold just for the outfit all right i believe that that's only one side of mountain biking. I think downhill should be in the Olympics because it's so exciting. Not every country is going to have good hills. That's true. That's a good point. And you need enough certain vertical feet to qualify to have a downhill.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, like what if the Olympics were in Edmonton, right? Edmonton's very flat. There's no hills. Right. Couldn't do it there. They're never going to have the Olympics were in Edmonton, right? Edmonton's very flat. There's no hills. Right. Couldn't do it there. They're never going to have the Summer Olympics in Edmonton. They shouldn't have anything in Edmonton. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:51 The Mosquito Olympics. Hello to our listeners from Edmonton. I did that Atlanta course. It's outside of Atlanta, right? In that German area, that German town area. There's a German town in Atlanta? There's like a german themed town i forget what it's called they shot an episode of atlanta there too jack's from atlanta
Starting point is 00:38:10 you never heard it doesn't happen they shot an episode of atlanta where it's all german or dutch or something no no no no you what you think is white supremacist they got plenty of them yeah we got those i'll get you the name of the town but there were all these germans with their tiki torches. My friend got married there, and then I took his mountain bike, and I went on the course that they said was the one for the Atlanta Olympics. I don't know. Did you make it?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Did you do the whole course? I did the whole thing. Not as fast as I'm sure you did or any of the competitors, but I thought a bear was chasing me at one point, but I don't think it was a bear in the end. So you competed in the Olympics, correct? No, I did not. No.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I was always a freerider, which meant I didn't compete in mountain biking. So I was always into jumping off cliffs, riding steeps, just jumping off buildings, having fun. Although I competed on the World Cup snowboarding, and I missed the Olympics by a quarter of a second, right? By 0.2 of a second, actually. My buddy went on to win the gold medal. Yeah, but we're not talking about snowboarding.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I don't want to hear about your snowboarding. I've done a lot of good things. Well, we might do an episode of snowboarding sometime. Let's talk about free riding then. What is free ride mountain biking? Jim said it's how smooth you go. Judge a score. He's correct.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah, he nailed it. He nailed it. It's not being on the clock. So myself and two friends were the first professional free riders in the world. We were the first riders to get paid not to race. So everyone at that point that was a professional free rider had to be on the clock had to go fast and we were just meant to like be yahoos and get people to want to buy the bikes that we rode because they handled big cliff drops and did all the gnarly stuff but you're going off cliffs too because the videos i saw you're going through
Starting point is 00:39:53 like the woods and things when you're competing are you going through like forests or going off cliffs when you're free riding or what are you doing where are you going off uh you can free ride anywhere you want people can free ride in the woods in the forest in the desert anywhere you want anywhere there's like a hill i guess i guess probably don't even need a hill you can use like a like like we're free riding in the city and just jumped off like walls yeah last time i rode a bike i was free riding to the shops so you get a vape pen dodging traffic oh because i thought there was some timing element, too. I have a video of you. I can't pull the video, but it's like it says, it's on yours,
Starting point is 00:40:31 Brett Tippy TV, and it says North Shore. I don't know where North Shore is. That's North Vancouver. It's in Hawaii. Well, he said Vancouver. Well, the North Shore of Hawaii is like the Mecca for surfing, and the North Shore of Vancouver is a Mecca for mountain biking. It's very steep and rooty and rocky.
Starting point is 00:40:51 What's your worst injury, Brett? Oh, my God. Well, I've dislocated this shoulder, separated this shoulder, separated this shoulder, dislocated my elbow. We're watching a video of you right now. I've seen my skull and the you right now yeah i've seen my skull on the scar right here i've seen my skull i've seen my kneecaps i've seen my elbow bones um i've seen my achilles tendon so tons of flesh wounds yeah um you've seen all that and
Starting point is 00:41:18 i've yeah i had ripped myself wide open and then i was looking at my bones going whoa there's my bone there's my skull this looks beautiful where you're mountain biking though i know you're talking about horrific injuries right now but this the north shore yeah like yeah yeah no it's gorgeous it's gorgeous but i have to say like probably the most painful thing i ever did is i sucked my balls into my rear suspension tire yeah and they pulled them into the rear swing arm by the frame how low hanging are your balls
Starting point is 00:41:50 and why aren't you wearing pants man I had shorts but it still sucked like the shorts and my balls and pretty much in my whole package everything got sucked in and I had to like rip my shorts out and rip my...
Starting point is 00:42:05 But your dick was okay? Your dick was okay, your balls were not. Because I feel like they're part and parcel. Well, they got burned by my rear tire, because my rear tire was still spinning, and it was stuffing them, kept stuffing them into the frame. And, um... What do you mean, keep stuffing them?
Starting point is 00:42:21 I had to actually pull them out, which hurt more than when I crashed because they were stuck in there and I had to sit there and think about it for a minute and then pull them out and it was probably one of the most painful things I've ever experienced. Wait, I just have to picture it. So you're riding along, you're in your shorts. What's the first thing that happens?
Starting point is 00:42:42 You hit a bump and then your balls fall out of your shorts and then they go into the steep slope and then when i when i hit there was a sharp geo and there was a bunch of rocks and it was sharper than i thought and i was going pretty fast and my pretty much my bike stopped and my body was still going and the rear tire was still going then i bounced and then i was in a back position so i'm in the back seat behind the seat when the rear tire, which is quite knobby, aggressive tire, grabbed my shorts and pulled my shorts into the frame. Oh, the shorts pulled in. And it pulled my balls into the swing arm as well. And did you get that on film?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Because people like watching things like that. Someone got it on film, yeah. Are your balls back to normal or are they still, is there scarring on your scrotum? No, there was some burning and they were a bit red and raw. Did one of them fall out? Did you see your ball? If you lose your left ball, is your right ball still your right ball yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:43:46 how long after the testicle incident did you did you knock one out did you leave it a week a few days what happened oh no i tested it right away yeah yeah yeah you're in the woods you're waiting for someone to come and help you you got you got time i actually i actually went into the doctor for a checkup and the doctor says i got time. I actually went into the doctor for a checkup and the doctor says, I'm afraid you have to stop masturbating. And he says, why?
Starting point is 00:44:10 And I said, why? I love masturbating. And he said, well, I have to examine you first. He's back. They call him Horny Brett for a reason. This is a video I found. It says,
Starting point is 00:44:22 you're going down like a cliff. Yeah, he's going down a rock. Yeah, it's a giant rock. It's like straight down. I want to see the video of the testicles. I've seen people do it. This is like... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Anyways, there you go. That's an idea of what Brett's doing. Do you still... If you want to see a good one for us, Google huge tippy crash. And it's low quality, but you'll see a gnarly crash. And that one i smacked my
Starting point is 00:44:45 oh here we go in my ass so hard that uh i couldn't shit for a month i couldn't sleep for a month i could barely have sex it was quite gnarly here we go huge tippy crash it's going down a cliff he was all right bit of fun you're straight up onto your feet. Wait, what happened there? Yeah, your legs all fucked up. Oh, yeah. No, I smoked myself pretty good there.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But I went back and I tried it four times. I made it once. Jesus. 25%. It's like baseball. If you're hitting 250, you're doing good. How did you get paid for this? Was it all sponsorship or did
Starting point is 00:45:25 someone was their prize money for you driving off cliffs no it's a sponsorship so you know i break it down into frame sponsorship suspension tires wheels so you know like everything scrotum tape you know so i ride for like yt bicycles srs on tour suspension nb wheels magura brakes ergon grips and seats um this is the thing with the seats right so i have a peloton right you can see from the physique and uh i also am a hemorrhoid guy and also i like to protect my balls so i've bought like a big wide seat. Cushy. Yeah, cushy seat. And it's got liquid and all this stuff. And even after...
Starting point is 00:46:07 It's got a little gap in the middle too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've made it as comfortable as... What I need is a lazy boy recliner with pedals to really get my Peloton up to the next level. Don't you find those seats hurt your taint? You know what? There's a company that I use called Ergon,
Starting point is 00:46:26 and when you have the seat, there's a little groove, like a little valley that doesn't rub on your taint or any of your plumbing down there. But is your taint calloused up like an old man's heel? Like a leathery old... Yeah, like could you bounce quarters off your taint? If you roll back on your... I don't know if my taint's any leatherier than it is...
Starting point is 00:46:54 You've got to cut spokes. I know that it's like... Like I snowboard all winter, and then when I start mountain biking, I know that it's pretty raw and tender for the first couple of weeks, and then it's leathery for the rest of the season. But it's not visibly more leathery.
Starting point is 00:47:10 All right, so the free riding that we – The hemorrhoids I can't talk about. I don't know. You never had hemorrhoids? Oh, man. No, well, not that I know of. Maybe that's the key. You've got to start mountain biking.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah, I've got to start bike riding without a seat. People have hemorrhoids. I want to know why they call them hemorrhoids when they come through the atmosphere. And they call asteroids hemorrhoids and hemorrhoids asteroids. They should switch those words around. Well, they don't come out of the atmosphere. No, you're saying it should be asteroids. Oh, asteroids.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And they're on your ass. You have a lot of jokes. He's just kidding. Is it from the North Pole to get Polaroids? And they're on your ass. You have a lot of jokes. He's just getting it right now. Is it from the North Pole to get Polaroids? Brett, calm down. We've got to get these questions. The North Pole to get polio.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So as far as free ride mountain biking, who started it and when? You said you were one of the godfathers, and you think so. And then who is the best free rider? It was started by myself and a fellow named Richie Slay and a guy named Wade Simmons. Richie Slay. Richie Slay would have got himself some pussy. I don't even need to say it.
Starting point is 00:48:15 He was a little lady killer. He's got blonde hair, California looking. He lives actually in Laguna now. He had the really blue eyes. Just drowning in pussy. Then there was Wade Simmons. Wade Simmons, he couldn't pick up
Starting point is 00:48:31 chicks to save his life. Old Wade. Okay, Kelly. So Richie Slade, the professional, and Wade Simmons, the natural, and Brett Tippy, the rock star. Richie Slade all day and so when you guys say
Starting point is 00:48:50 you just started going down mountains like a fort right until that point people were just kind of on trails did you just ring up your friends each day going we should keep riding down hills until eventually people notice totally I was racing snowboards
Starting point is 00:49:05 and I couldn't afford to go to New Zealand or South America like all my competitors. So I used to snowboard down gravel pits in the summer and down the rocks on my snowboard. And I did that for years for training. You've hit your head a lot. I have, yeah. And eventually you don't want to crash anymore because it hurts.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So you get really good and you get balanced and you don't, you know, you don't, you don't fuck up. I always think it's like when you see like skateboarders and they put the big truck tires on the skateboard. This is my downhill cross-country skateboard. It's like, shut up. So then you were hitting, so you decided to put some wheels on there and switch from snowboarding to mountain biking. Yeah, so I brought my bike down there and started jumping off cliffs and riding steep stuff. And then all of a sudden, the companies that were doing mountain biking were all doing people in Lycra and exercise. And it was all pretty much about racing and fitness.
Starting point is 00:50:02 and it was all pretty much about racing and fitness. And we were just having fun being yahoos and breaking beer bottles over our head and smoking fatties and being a bunch of yahoos. And all of a sudden they said, would you ride our bikes? And so we started doing this for the movies and we started Extreme Mountain Bike Movies. So it was the original viral clips right
Starting point is 00:50:25 right yeah yeah you and your canadian mates drinking fatties okay now what should we do let's go down a hill as fast as possible until one of us dies killer idea i don't know what's filming it. Oh, no. We forgot to film it. Back up to the top. We lost Ricky on that one. Who's the best free rider?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Is it you? No, no. You gave me a point for that. At one point, we were doing the biggest cliffs in the world back in the old days. But a guy from the States, from Alaska, Josh Bender, went bigger than I did. And then a guy, Wade Simmons actually went bigger than he did.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And then a bunch of different people went bigger and bigger and bigger. And now people are doing backflips and 360s off the cliffs we used to do. What countries are the best? What are the Olympics and stuff? Who always wins? In freeriding,
Starting point is 00:51:27 BC, Canada are all the best riders. Like the current Red Bull Rampage winner is Brett Reeder and he's from here in BC.
Starting point is 00:51:37 He's originally from Ontario though and then the time before Brad and Semenuk. Who I would say is the best, Brad and Semenuk
Starting point is 00:51:43 is five-time winner of the Red Bull Rampage. He's won Crankworx, Joyride, Slopestyle five times. His videos are, it's hard to even understand what he's doing because he's spinning and flipping and twisting and just lands so lightly all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:00 He's amazing. I think he's the world's best. What would it take for you to hang up your bike? Because it feels like you still do it. What would it take for you to hang up your bike? Because it feels like you still do it. What would it take for you to go, that's enough of that? Because age comes to us all. I don't think Brett goes as hard as he used to, right? You're a little bit.
Starting point is 00:52:13 No, I'm not going as hard as I used to. I'll still jump off cliffs, but I've jumped 25, 30-foot cliffs. Okay, what I'm asking is. That's still hard, Brett. What I'm asking is, Brett, inevitably, when you get into that wheelchair, and it's coming, are you going to put truck tires on the side? Of course. And rod pipes.
Starting point is 00:52:33 A lip kit. Yeah, you'll be like, I broke my leg today. Didn't feel it. Saw my bone. No, I don't think I'm ever going to stop. I'm going to keep on doing it at one point. What's that term I heard the other day? It was awesome. I don't want I'm never going to stop I'm going to keep on doing it at one point like what's that term
Starting point is 00:52:46 I heard the other day it was awesome I don't want to age gracefully I want to rage gracefully alright yeah alright and then
Starting point is 00:52:54 what's best to wear while you're free riding light airy is a Hawaiian shirt not those shorts you wore that one time yeah whatever bike pants
Starting point is 00:53:02 would be the best way right yeah thicker material than what I was wearing that time no Jim nailed it Yeah, whatever that was. Bike pants would be the best way. Right, yeah. It's a thicker material than what I was wearing that time. No, Jim nailed it. He goes, you know, helmet and some pads. Although it's very cool and very vogue right now to wear not much padding. So people wear helmets and knee pads.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And some people don't wear gloves. But, you know, I'm kind of old school. I wear elbow pads. I wear knee pads. If it's super gnarly, I wear elbow pads. I wear knee pads. If it's super gnarly, I wear hip pads and I wear a back protector. If it's super gnarly, I use a Liat neck brace, which is a carbon fiber neck brace where you're economically close to a bar. What would make it gnarly enough for a neck brace? What is the environment where you go, oh, this is neck brace gnarliness?
Starting point is 00:53:42 If you're doing something bigger than say say, a 15-foot drop, even a 10-foot drop, 10 to 15, once you start getting 10 to 15, 20, 25 feet, you know, it's getting pretty physical, like a wham, big landing when you hit, big impact. And also very steep slopes that are chunky and rocky with cliffs around. Like, it doesn't always go well.
Starting point is 00:54:06 If you have a neck brace and, say, you stuck your face or your head into the ground, it'll save you from breaking your neck. You're 40% safer. Do you have a mate that you don't like who you send down first just to see how... Like the buddy system? Yeah. That's when we ride around the bears in the wildlife. Use the buddy system.
Starting point is 00:54:25 You just ride faster than your buddy. There are bears, right? Yeah. It's Canada. No, but I'm pretty sure I saw a bear outside in Atlanta. I don't know. You went, there are bears. Like, wherever there's mountain biking, there'll be bears.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He's in Canada. There's bears everywhere. I thought we were back in the Atlanta. Yeah, there's lots of bears. Okay. What's a bear with no ear a b what's a fish with no eye yes what's a cow with three legs
Starting point is 00:54:57 what's that what's a cow with three legs I don't know lean beef what's a cow with no legs lean beef there's lean ground beef ground beef what do you call it two legs what do you call a dog with no legs your mom too soon brett yeah my mom died man she was a cow
Starting point is 00:55:27 man oh my god what do you call a dog with no legs doesn't matter he's not coming what do you call a dog with no legs
Starting point is 00:55:40 and brass balls and what parky oh that's okay alright hang on what do you call a woman who can stretch her legs from one end of a tennis court to another?
Starting point is 00:55:49 A net. A net. That's good. All right. What do you call a lady with one leg? Eileen. What's an Asian lady with one leg? Forrest, get these guys back.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It's Irene, but we'll get in trouble. We've gone off the rails. Oh, no. I knew the Asian joke, but he said it. What is the original bike called? Was it a Penny Farthing? Penny Farthing was the original bike. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Oh, okay. I thought it was something else here. We had another word here. I didn't. Penny Farthing. Wheelie movie? Velocipede. I don't know what Velocippede is yeah the penny far have
Starting point is 00:56:26 you ever read a penny farthing read never written one though because when they did it on jackass it looked fucking dangerous like obviously they were trying to do jumps i saw one in silver lake one time somebody was riding one around you've got to tap along to get up there
Starting point is 00:56:40 getting off it must be a fucking nightmare in any way there's no brakes you just push the wheel backwards it's like a tes nightmare. It's not convenient in any way. There's no brakes. You just push the wheel backwards. It's like a Tesla. Sort of. The original. Wait, what? The crank is just on the wheel.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So you're pushing forward, and then if you want to slow, you push it backwards. But how does that work in a Tesla? Because they decelerate. The wheels decelerate. You don't use the brake as you slow down. What advance in technology
Starting point is 00:57:04 made changing gears on mountain bikes easier was it the multiple disc thing the multiple crank system well the uh the multiple choice said derailleur but jim was actually right in that he said the multiple this thing which he i think he meant to say is like uh what's actually called is a cassette there's a bunch of gears all different sizes that go small to big and the derailleur shifts the chain from all these different size um sprockets that's called a cassette it's called a cassette so he was partly right okay is there anywhere for bikes to go or have we reached the summit um you know what there's people trying some crazy things like internal geared systems but they're still where you think about changing and the chain seems to be the most efficient way with the derailleur and the and the cassette um but people are trying new new things
Starting point is 00:57:58 new ways and i've got a system where the cranks up here and you do it with your hands and you steer with your feet. Well, uh, yeah, they have like, whatever they'll call recumbent bikes. Yeah. And if you want to see something funny, Kurt Baris on his Instagram,
Starting point is 00:58:13 he jumps those and does gnarly slopes with those for a joke. He's a really good rider on a regular bike, but he goes and he does like free riding on a recumbent. Have you ever met him? What's his name? Kurt Baris, V O R E I S. Have you, does like freeriding on a recumbent have you ever met him what's his name kurt bariste v-o-r uh e-i-s have you have you ever met have you ever met anyone who's ridden a unicycle who isn't a complete cunt every time every time there'll always be some bloke by the pool and he's like
Starting point is 00:58:41 yeah just chatting to someone sort of staying in the same bit yeah yeah no no I just picked it up bit of fun and you're like fuck and then you're a street performer and every time you watch a street performer
Starting point is 00:58:55 they do one trick and they build up to it for fucking 40 minutes alright I'm gonna get these lit oh no I fell off I'll get back up like that yeah unicycle you hear it from me if you're a unicycle rider I'm going to get these lit. Oh, no, I fell off. I'll get back up. Like that.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, unicycle. You hear it from me. If you're a unicycle rider, everyone thinks you're a cunt. They're always dressed weird. Oh, yeah. They've always got suspenders. What's the difference between a well-dressed man on a unicycle and a poorly dressed man on a bicycle?
Starting point is 00:59:24 What's the difference between a well-dressed man on a unicycle and a poorly dressed man on a bicycle? A well-dressed man on a unicycle and a poorly dressed man on a bicycle. What's the difference? Yes. A tire. A tire. What are different disciplines of mountain biking? What are different disciplines of mountain biking?
Starting point is 00:59:43 Uphill, downhill, flat through trees. This is an idea. Rollerblades, but with truck tires. You're real high up right well you put four of them in a in a run like that and then you go down like that this is a good jackass prank it's not a bad idea i think it'd work so what is that gonna happen i don't know about that but um it'd be interesting to see all right no you were kind of close in the uphill downhill like there is downhill I don't know about that, but it would be interesting to see. All right. No, you were kind of close in the uphill, downhill. There is downhill.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Uphill and downhill together is called cross country. And then they have a different discipline that's new called enduro. It's not super new, but it's newer than the others in which you are timed racing downhill and the climbs are not timed so you casually ride and then you do a bunch of mini downhills and that's enduro and that's really hot right now um the downhill like it says is the downhill race and cross country is is like through the hills roly poly um at the risk of being insensitive is uh uh is the mountain biking i assume it's in the Olympics, and it would be not, what's the one that the people are missing limbs?
Starting point is 01:00:51 What's that Olympics called? Paralympics. Paralympics. I assume it's in the Paralympics. Is it in the Special Olympics? I'm not sure about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You said it twice now. So here is just a good segue since the Olympics what is the Red Bull Rampage that's an event you were saying yeah he was correct in that Red Bull likes to do extreme events sometimes you gotta ride the bull right ride the bull
Starting point is 01:01:21 and it's an event in Utah which have big cliffs down in the desert and um my buddy wade simmons actually won the first one in 2001 and i competed back in the day and it's uh an extreme freeride event yeah but the other competitors were just mormons just like their tires get caught in the cranks a lot of things get caught in the cranks um A lot of things get caught in the cranks. Basically, you go to the top of the mountain. Everyone rides their own way down, take their own route, your own line,
Starting point is 01:01:53 and then you're judged on how gnarly you do it, how smooth you do it, what kind of tricks you do, and they pick a winner who is the best freerider at that Red Bull Rampage. And that's like the unofficial world championships of freeriding. That's our Super Bowl. The worst bike accident I ever had, right? I was on a BMX.
Starting point is 01:02:16 We were at a caravan park. We used to caravan as a family. And I was riding around the caravan park and it was getting a bit dark. And my brother was chasing me on his bike. So I thought I'd take a shortcut. And I went behind around the caravan park and it was getting a bit dark. And my brother was chasing me on his bike. So I thought I'd take a shortcut. And I went behind the caravans and I fucking got clotheslined by the power cord going at the little power thing. The amount of pain, because that wire just went across my neck.
Starting point is 01:02:38 And I flew off the back of the bike. But not only that, those people lost their electricity. And I could hear all these people going, what the fuck? And I'm on the ground speaking of injuries you mentioned a lot of your injuries is there any other injuries besides getting your balls caught in the wheels and breaking bones stuff like that jim mentioned about what's the worst one you've ever seen probably um i smashed my tailbone trying a triple jump whereas i'm trying to jump over um 55 foot triple jump and um i smashed my ass that i was actually kind of i was paralyzed for a couple minutes and um i my legs kind of came back after a couple minutes and i
Starting point is 01:03:21 crawled off the trail and uh is there a chance you're still in a coma and this is all a dream? This very well could be. This could be the matrix. Yeah. I have a mate who was in a coma and he said he dreamt the whole time through it. He said, he goes, I knew I wasn't flying. That for sure, I knew I wasn't flying.
Starting point is 01:03:41 But he did believe that he won the lottery and he believed it with all of his heart. So when his wife woke him up, he's like, well, at least we won that 10 million. Oh, no. What? I broke my tailbone before it did. Not on biking. I broke it on water.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Jumping in the water. Fun. Oh, yeah. Water can be like concrete if you jump high enough. I was jumping from very high. I was drunk. It was the middle of the night, and I landed just right where it broke the tip of my tailbone,
Starting point is 01:04:09 and I didn't know. Was it into a pool? No, it was into a canal, like the touch of the ocean. You could have died. Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't smart. I was 17 years old, you know? No, I was smart.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Then the next day I woke up, and I couldn't move. I thought I was paralyzed. Same thing for a second. I was like, God, and I'm trying to wake up my hungover friends. Fun time. And then they were like. It's called your coccyx. Coccyx.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And then the doctor was like, well, there's nothing you can do. We can give you some like painkillers, but also here's this giant donut pillow that you have to sit on when you're in class in high school. And I was like, yeah, we're not doing that. Not bringing a donut pillow and sitting on high school. So I just like, yeah, we're not doing that. Not bringing a donut pillow and sitting on a high school. So I just suffered for like, just sat like sideways for about two months. Fun. Oh, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. All right. What is the record speed for mountain biking downhill? Miles per hour. Was it Simon Buckley? It was not Simon Buckley. And it was actually 141 miles an hour. Yeah, but Simon did faster than that.
Starting point is 01:05:08 That was before Australians keep record. We didn't write things down. There's some cave paintings. Anyways, 141 miles an hour? What was he going down? By Eric Barone.
Starting point is 01:05:23 He did it at 56 years old. Crazy old French guy. 141. And what was the environment that he did it on? What was the hill? It was on snow. Anyone can go fast on snow. It's slippery.
Starting point is 01:05:38 You go for it. 141 miles an hour. I don't want to. I don't have to. I do other things. We're talking about bikes this episode. How do you ride a mountain bike through snow? You put chains on your tires.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Was it hard snow, soft snow? I don't know. You can ask Brett. How do you ride a bike in snow? Pretty hard snow. It's a speed skiing track where the guys go down with the 240 centimeter skis and the rubber suits and the tapered aerodynamic helmets. And the people ski down there. Oh, it's like the ski jump, like Eddie the Eagle.
Starting point is 01:06:07 No, not the ski jump. It's just a big, long slope, actually, with a big, rounded out run that eventually flattened out. Why don't you do it? Would you do the ski jump like Eddie the Eagle? God, no. Why not? I know some friends who did that,
Starting point is 01:06:20 and they broke a lot of bones. Because it's not, they didn't do it in the snow they did it like when it was the green carpet in the summer yeah and they hit it and they flew so far they started going and the front end started dropping and by the time they hit i don't know how many feet they went but it was a long ways but they didn't land on their bike yeah but good video man good video that's how you get that that red bull money man um what's the longest recorded dirt jump distance is it 120 feet 36 meters or whatever that comes out to no it's longer it's uh it's actually 141 again 141 feet by fabio vidmer 2018 that wasn't fun again
Starting point is 01:07:01 in the snow yeah well in the snow. Yeah. What, in the snow? Well, that's not dirt at all then. We were talking about the dirt. If you asked me snow, I would have said 141 all day. Yeah, true. I didn't say dirt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:13 All right. Sorry about that, Jim. And then I missed this question. When did the off-road racing start? I think maybe you touched on that maybe when they started paying you guys. I don't know. Well, there was some small
Starting point is 01:07:24 little independent events, but they first brought a full World Cup together and a World Championship in 1990. And a girl that I know actually, Ella Dee Brown, got the silver medal in the downhill. And the girl who won was a massage therapist. And it was such a small little scene that she gave up one of the prizes for the podium was a massage therapist and it was such a small little scene that she gave up one of
Starting point is 01:07:45 the prizes for for the podium as a massage and so she actually won the event and then to massage the girl who got second so i said what oh that is a happy ending yeah that's a porn i'd like to watch brett you didn't tell us if the girl was hot, though. What about her tits? Yeah. He keeps telling us about all these girls' body parts. Yeah, the women in the mountain bike world. Yeah, a lot of hot women, huh? Yeah, you wanted to protect that. Otherwise, blokes like me would just show up to mountain bike races. Tell a couple jokes.
Starting point is 01:08:17 We jumped around a lot, but I think we got all the questions here. All right, cool. Now is the part of our show called Dinner Party Facts. Brett, we ask our guests to give us a fact, something obscure, interesting about this topic they can use to impress people at a dinner party. What do you got? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Well, something random. The longest wheelie in the world is 55 miles. Oh, what's it wheelie? 55.15 miles. Yeah, this is a wheelie? 55.15 miles. Yeah, this is a disease that's happened in this podcast. 50 miles. Oh, wait, on a bicycle or is that motorized? No, on a bicycle.
Starting point is 01:08:54 No, no, on a bicycle. Yeah, it took him 11 hours. And he was in the Anaheim Convention Center. A guy named Kurt Osborne. center a guy named kurt osborne and uh he in 1998 wheelied 55 miles without stopping that is impressive yeah without a break and before social media right what's it right why would he even do it yeah there's no tech talk yeah no one going to fucking spread the word. You do that today, you get a few likes. In one hour, there's a fellow that wheelied 19 miles. Yeah, that's more than that.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Manuel Scheisinger in Europe. And the fastest wheelie that's ever been recorded is 86 miles an hour by a guy from Hawaii. Oh, I did run way faster. It was like a second. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You mean he was going downhill a mountain, going 86 and wheeling? Yeah, he
Starting point is 01:09:50 was actually drafting a car and it was for a movie called New World Disorder and NWD1, we call it. And he was flying behind his car and then he popped a wheelie and the car was just sucking him in the draft
Starting point is 01:10:06 like Nat's car and he was wheeling at 86 miles an hour on camera. Alright, Brett. Take care of yourself. Brett Tippy, thank you for being here. Again, you can find him on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:10:21 His handle is Brett Tippy. That's B-R-E-T-T-T-I-P-P-I-E. And then check out his YouTube channel, Brett Tippie Official. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being on the podcast, Brett. It was gnarly.
Starting point is 01:10:37 If you're ever at a party and someone comes up to you and goes, I've got the fastest wheelie ever, you go, I don't know about that. Then you walk away. Good night, Australia. We know the true facts. Keep about that. Then you walk away. Good night, Australia. We know the true facts. Keep on rocking. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Great to meet you. Thank you so much. Thanks for having you, mate. This will come out on the 21st. Yeah, 21st. Yeah. Oh, bye. All right, we've lost him.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Oh, there he is. He's back. Did you hear me? This will come out on the 21st, so we'll make sure to tag you I look forward to it Forrest, I sent you some other questions that you're going to love
Starting point is 01:11:12 Oh yeah, I forgot to get to those Sorry about that Those are some good ones that Jim would actually go up on What do you think these mean? Bonus clip Putting on fresh rubber Putting on fresh rubber, Putting on fresh rubber. That's new ties.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Okay. Yes. Tighten your nipples. That would be tightening your gears, your cord on your brakes and all that. All right. What about pump the trannies? Nipples on the spokes. Ah.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Okay, nipples. Pump the trannies. Pump the trannies. Yeah. You can't say it anymore. Well, in the bike world, you can, nipples. Pump the trannies. Pump the trannies? Yeah. You can't say it anymore. Well, in the bike world, you can, I guess. I don't know. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:11:50 It means pump the transitions. So you're pulling up on the uphills and pushing down on the little mini downhills. Pumping the transitions. It's called pump the trannies. Pump the trannies? Squash or pop the lip. That's when you have sex with a transsexual. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Oh, okay. No, that's when you go off and jump. And if you squash squash it you suck up the jump so you don't go as big if you pop it you push and then you go for extra pop extra air all right calvin we're superstitiously drop your helmet what does that mean superstitiously drop your helmet you're not meant to drop your helmet it's a superstition if you do that it's bad luck. Is that true, Brent? No, exact opposite. Some people, I don't do it because I think it's stupid because I want my helmet to be brand new.
Starting point is 01:12:31 But some people, when they get a brand new helmet, they get their first crash out of the way before they have a real crash just by dropping their helmet. And then they figure that then they're safe. It's kind of a thing that some guys do. Oh, so that it's not flimsy. So you go, this one works. And then here.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yeah, well, and then it's just like, it's kind of like, it just kind of got it out of the way, I guess. Here's one more. Okay, you're not slowing down. Do you need a bleed? What does that mean? Oh, that's when your wife's complaining. When you're in the shop and she's not moving as fast as you.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Do you need to bleed? That's when your brakes aren't working and you need to bleed your brakes. Hey, did you hear about the guy that was addicted to brake fluid? What? He says he can stop anytime. That was your best one. He can't help himself.
Starting point is 01:13:17 He's like, I don't want to go. Did you hear about the guy that was afraid of speed bumps? Right, no, I didn't hear. He's still not getting over it. Oh, he's still not getting over it. There you go. They're all puns.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Oh, yeah. Brad's got a million. I've got a comedian for you that you're going to enjoy. Google Tim Vine. Okay. Tim Vine does a one-hour show of just those jokes. He's got about five specials. There's hours and hours and hours. It's like, I just got a job at a bowling alley.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Not full-time, temp in. That's good. You're killing Brad's already life. Tim Vine. Tim Vine's your guy. Tim Vine. Awesome. Brad, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:13:59 That was great. Thank you. Have a great weekend. Have a good one, everybody. Take care. Bye, Matt. Ow!

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