I Don't Know About That - The Heart

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

In this episode, the team discusses the heart and heart disease with Associate Professor of Psychiatry and medical physiology at Texas A&M University, Dr. Adam Case Follow Dr. Adam on Twitter @CaseRedoxLab ! To learn more about some great charities, go to ptsdUSA.org/camp-hope to and CorgiConnection.com ! Our merch store is now live! Go to idontknowaboutthat.com for shirts, hoodies, mugs, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/IDKAT for ad free episodes, bonus episodes, and more exclusive perks! Tiers start at just $2! Go to JimJefferies.com to buy tickets to Jim's upcoming tour, The Moist Tour.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Which one is a sporting store? You might find out. And I don't know about that. With Jim Jefferies. You know, I don't... I don't think dicks is a national chain. It might be. I don't know.

Is it? I think it is. Dick's Sporting Goods. Yeah, I know it's Dick's Sporting national chain. It might be. I don't know. Is it? I think it is. Dick's Sporting Goods. Yeah, I know it's Dick's Sporting Goods. In Georgia and here. In the South, they have penises. Penises Sporting Goods. Yeah.

Cox would be a sporting score, but only for badminton. Yeah. Cox and rackets. Rackets and cocks. And also just for cockfighting. Yeah, true. Yeah, and for people with cockney axes. Oh, cock-related things.

Cockroaches. Yeah, yeah. Little basketball. You throw things in the cock rings. Yeah, true. Yeah, and for people with cockney axes. Oh, cock-related things. Cockroaches. Yeah, a little basketball. You throw things in the cock rings. Mm-hmm. Yeah, true. Small animals. Oh, for the cockroaches.

Yeah, yeah. The cockroaches playing basketball use a cock ring. Yeah, yeah. A little ping-pong ball. Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

This works. I think you're in Australia right now. I am in Australia. You've probably read in the news. In the trades. Yeah, yeah. in the news. In the trades. Probably seen the articles.

I'm in Australia. Things are going great. You're doing a little bit of your mom right here. I'm safe, everyone. Don't worry. No, I'm going off to Australia. I'm doing a whole lot of gigs there. You're here right now.

How is that possible? The tour sold out. That was pretty exciting. The tour sold out. That was pretty exciting. The tour sold out. We got, even we did a secret gig by now. We've already done a secret gig. You think so? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is this out by the 13th? Probably. Yeah, it'll be after the 13th. Yeah, we did a gig at the Tarahumara Bowling Club. Oh, yeah. Okay, we haven't done the gig yet, obviously, because we've pre-recorded this. But I had a phone call from, because all I mentioned,

I didn't mention the Tarahumara Bowling Club. I said I'm going to do a secret gig somewhere in Tarahumara or something, didn't I? Yeah. On the Patreon. I think you might have said your, I don't remember though. No, he didn't. He kept it secret.

I don't know if you ever even said Tarahumara. I didn't even say where it was, but word got out, and the whole thing sold out in about 10 minutes, the Tarahumara Bowling Club. That's awesome, though. I was told by, yeah, it's only 120 seats. Yeah. And I was told by my manager.

Yeah, that would be fun to see in 120 seats. Yeah. And I told my manager, he rang me up and he said, don't mention it again. We don't want that many people to show up. Don't mention them. Why not? They don't have security.

It's a fucking bowling club. Oh, like more people got it yeah people just show up or something like that they're worried so well you just mentioned again but uh but it's already it's already happened but uh but yeah my dad my dad's uh and all of the all the old blokes they they got to buy tickets first because they're members and they didn't go that quick it was when it went to the general public but there's about 10 members bought tickets there There was a flyer up there with little numbers you can tear off.

I bet. I'm going to call this phone number. There's probably a couple of old fellas who don't even get along with my dad who probably bought tickets and then hocked them off. Probably scalped them. Or they just didn't. They're the ones who probably bragged about it. Yeah, so we did that. We did some other gigs and I'm traveling

around with the wife and the kids right now, having a lot of fun in Australia, soaking up the sun. Eating some good food. Eating good food. It's actually winter there right now. Yeah, not soaking up the sun. Also, when do we get back? Hawaii, baby.

Hawaii. We're in Honolulu and Maui doing shows. Yeah. They're selling well. That might sell out. So get your tickets for Hawaii because that's happening soon. It's already 70% sold and this is being pre-recorded. Months beforehand.

I'm looking forward to that. I'll be there. I'm coming in a little early and hanging out. Yeah, Maui is August 5th. Honolulu is August 6th. The Maui Arts and Cultural Center and the Hawaii Theater Center. And there'll be other gigs at Jim Jefferies.com. Yeah, Las Vegas right after that.

Oh, Las Vegas. Come out and see me in Vegas. The week after Hawaii, you're going to be in Vegas? Oh, I love it. Oh, my God. I got a fun month when I get back, eh? Well, then you got to go to Tucson. No, Tucson's all right, man.

I've had a good night out in Tucson. Then Palm Springs? Palm Springs. I was just in Palm Springs, just hanging out. I was just in Palm Springs, just, you know, just hanging out. And I had some people at the Tommy Bahama. I always call them Betty Harmer. Tommy, where do you get the Hawaiian shirts?

Tommy Bahama. Tommy Bahama. And the staff there, I took photos with them and everything, and they were asking, when are you going to be here? And I said, oh, I'm not going to be here, sorry. And then I walked away and I went, I am going to be here. And I went back in and told them. August 27th. Yeah, I said, I'll be at Agua Caliente.

Yeah, I got it wrong. I think I said I was at Morongo, but they'll get the gist. They'll figure it out. They could put your name in Google. But it's Agua Caliente Resort Casino Spa in Rancho Mirage, which is just adjacent. Oh, my God, for a couple of days there, enjoy the lazy river. Well, you're going to Tucson the day before,

then so you'd stay the day after if you want to hang out yeah man there you go so that's happening then uh our patreon subscribe to that uh patreon.com slash idcat merch is that i don't know about that.com yeah there was a picture of a woman that had bought everything from the merch yeah like the sweatshirt the hat that was That was Melissa. She was standing. Yeah, she was next to the TV with the podcast on there. She had like a mug, sweatshirt, shirt, hat. So thank Melissa. Thanks, Melissa. MVP, man. Yeah, that's showbag worthy.

Yeah, she bought a ton of merch. And there's a bunch of merch there. Fun stuff. And then follow us on Instagram. I forget the handle. At idcatpodcast. It's only been two years. Follow me.

Don't follow Louise. Don't listen to Louise's podcast. You don't have to follow Louise. Louise will follow you. What's the name of your podcast, please? You're Not Down with Mike and Louise. Who's Mike?

He's the same co-host I've had for two years. Have I met Mike? No. He's a dad now. He's a dad now? I've never met him. He's changed him.

I've got no pre-reference. He would just be the guy that I met now. Jim, remember what he was in the dad? Imagine if people introduced you like, hi, this is Jim. He used to be a complete piece of shit. But you're just meeting him now, so it's all right. It's pretty good.

This is a good time to meet him. He should have two weeks ago. No good, but now. He's a dad now. So if you're listening, Mike, we didn't say whether you're a good dad. You might be abusive he's a dead beat dad now does mike listen to the podcast uh he's gonna listen to this one two weeks at this point so if he's fucking up already he doesn't have all that he doesn't

have all the time why is he not supporting our podcast yeah he's supporting you by supporting this do you uh do you and mike before he was a dad, did you go after the women together? Were you in a team? No, he's been in a relationship every, since I've known him. And you're in a relationship too, right? No. Yeah, I knew that. Mike's Luis.

That's the one out there. No, Luis is looking very handsome. I walked in today. You've dropped a bit of weight. You're looking a bit thing. Your haircut's on point. Who are you thirst trapping right now? I'm going to Mexico in July. But also in general. On my podcast here in Audam. In July?

I mean, I have a video podcast as well. Mexico, lock up your daughters. You got your haircut for July? It's fucking still May, dude. Lock up your daughters. I can tell you where you can get a few cages. That's anti the cage.

Anti the cage. Anti. Too soon. I'm trying to stop the cages. All right, let's start the show. Okay. Please welcome our guest today, adam case good day adam now it's time to play yes no yes no yes no yes no judging a book by its cover all right it's dr

adam case but he said we can call him adam just you know i i already called him adam i know i took a liberty uh are you in America, Adam? I am in America. Okay. It's just because the jersey behind you is Australian green and gold, but I assume it's probably the – is that from the – It's black and yellow. Yeah, that's black.

Oh, okay. Smallest number I've ever seen. Number eight. Is that a soccer jersey it is a soccer jersey is it a jersey from a university team it is is the university that you work at sir no oh is it the university you went to correct yes it also has nothing to do with the topic. Why would I know? Well, I'm telling you. I'm telling you you're on the wrong track. He's got sports memorabilia behind him. He likes sports.

Wrong track. It doesn't matter. That's how I get there. Oh, you just want to get to know him. Life's a journey first. He's getting the mind to spin. An outlet back there or something like that. Do you work at a hospital? No. Do you work at a hospital? No.

Do you work at a university? Yes. Are you a professor of education, not medicine? No. Are you a doctor of medicine? I am a doctor, not an MD. You can tell them what you're a doctor of, actually. I don't even know.

What are you a doctor of? Yeah. Okay. I'm a doctor, not an MD. You can tell them what you're a doctor of, actually. I don't even know. What are you a doctor of? Yeah. Okay. I'm a doctor of redox. I'm a doctor of redox biology and physiology. Also, you said love, which is, it's on the right track when you think conceptually. Are you a doctor of shagging? Are we going to talk about shagging?

You were warm. You got colder. Much colder. When couples love each other. There's other things of love. I'd love to say that was my area of expertise, but no. It's not. Don't put yourself down. You might be a great bang.

You're a doctor of the heart. You're a heart doctor. I just did this. Close. I researched the heart yeah you're a heart doctor i just did this close yep i researched the heart you researched the heart like emotionally or the actual organ the organ okay i can tell you about the heart that's what we're going to talk about today the heart and heart disease all animals have them end of end of episode thanks for coming here adam appreciate it of course yeah um dr adam case is an associate professor of psychiatry and medical physiology at

Texas A&M university. He did his training in redox biology and physiology, and now researches how post-traumatic stress order affects the heart. You can find them on Twitter at case redox lab. And he has a couple of charities that he'd like us to contribute to. If you feel so, you know, a lot of people have books.

Sure. Yeah. Camp Hope is for combat veterans with PTSD. That's PTSDUSA.org slash camp dash hope. We'll put that link up as well. And also the Corgi Connection of Kansas Dog Rescue. So that is not related to hearts or that is related to hearts. The Corgis.

You just like Corgis. Not related to the hearts, but somewhat related to the or that is related to hearts? The corgis. You just like corgis. Not related to the hearts, but somewhat related to the whole PTSD. Yeah, people like animals, man. Yeah, yeah. But we're happy to do that. Corgis, though. You've always been fascinated by corgis. They can't jump up on the sofa.

They're so cute. No. My wife. It's my wife. Are you married to the queen? I have to be careful how I tried on that one uh no but we do we do have actually like little stairs so they can get up on the couch in the bed so that's nice to do that for your wife what what is redox biology you mentioned that what is yeah so it's a fancy way basically of studying antioxidants and oxidants and kind of basically how those play a role in your body. Yeah. There was like, what was it like 10 or 15 years ago when they just started advertising things with antioxidants?

We're like, oh, it must be good. Yeah. Smart. We could have a whole podcast about that. I like pro oxidants. I'm not anti the oxidant. Yeah. I like the oxidants yeah i don't like

the oxidants to flow man it's a big debate in this country so um i'm gonna ask so i'm gonna ask jim some questions about heart and heart disease and um at the end of these questions i'm answering you're gonna i've just had a flood of anxiety i'm like i've probably got heart disease i'm gonna find it out we're not doing the test today this is actually you've been too stubborn to go to the doctor so this is actually just right this is just a you've been too stubborn to go to the doctor. So this is actually just a doctor's appointment. This is just a physical. Your wife asked us to do this episode.

When I get back on the gear, you're going to have an intervention and you're going to call it a podcast. That's a great idea. We're all here to be like, you're an addict. And I'll be like, I don't know about that. This isn't a good podcast.

I need money. I'm asking him some questions. And at the end of those, Adam, you're going to grade him on his accuracy. Zero through 10, 10 is the best. Kelly's going to grade him on confidence. And I'm going to grade him on et cetera. We'll add those together. 21 through 30, heart of gold.

It's good. It's a nice one. You want that? Worth a lot of money, too. 11 through 20, Kevin Hart. I like Kevin. Yeah, it's a good one, too, actually. Nice fella.

Zero through 10, Hardy.y har har oh like hardy ha ha like let me laugh let me lie hardy har har yeah your joke did you come out that one with jack was that i came i didn't i don't help with this at all yeah i didn't know what to do we just do this in my house all right all right jim here we go what. What does the heart do? Pumps blood through your body. Okay. It's a pump. Pump, okay. Yeah.

That's it. Yeah, it also makes you fall in love and all that type of stuff. No, it pumps air, it keeps your body oxidized and all that type of stuff, and it pumps the blood through your veins, and it's a pump. Where is it located? In your chest, man. About where? Just off to the left.

The left? Yeah, just off center to the left. How big is it? About the size of your fist. What's the shape? It's not heart-shaped. It's more like a – it's like... It's like... You know when you have a soccer ball and it's been filled with water

and it's just sitting around in the backyard? No. It's... It's like a $25,000 pyramid now. It's oval-shaped. You know what it's shaped like? It's shaped like one of the rocks out of... It's shaped like one of the

rocks out of Temple of Doom. Oh, yeah. One of those gems. That's a good one. On average, how many times does your heart beat per day? Supposed to be doing the sound effect. 70 pulses per minute.

60 minutes in an hour. 60 minutes in an hour. 60 minutes in an hour. And it's like 70 times by 60. Help me with the math here. 70 times by 60. 420. 420. No, it's 4,200.

4,200 times by 24. No, maybe not. I don't know. Is it 770 times? I have a phone here. I can do it. You can just give me a number. Yeah, it's 4,000 times by 24.

That would make it 40,000, 80,000. Around 100,000 times a day, depending on whether you fuck or you're masturbating. 100,800. I think you're close. How many gallons of blood does a pump per day? I believe there's meant to be about nine. I work in liters. So there's three point something liters to a gallon.

There's nine liters in the human body, I believe. Or not. These are 12 pints. I'm going to say 24 gallons. No, but like the whole day. It's not how much is in your body. It's how much you pump. Yeah, the whole day, 24 gallons. So it only pumps at once? No, 24 gallons. No, but like the whole day. It's not how much is in your body. It's how much you pump. Yeah, the whole day, 24 gallons.

So it only pumps at once? No, 24 gallons. No, no, no. So it only pumps all of your blood like around a couple times? Yeah, it's only thin veins, man. Okay. How many chambers are in the human heart? What are they called?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The valves, I believe there's five. You know what they they called? Yeah. Yeah. The vows. I believe there's five, you know what they're called? Um, um, when you have bypass surgery, they call them vows. They call them vows in there.

You know what they're called or no. Okay. Why does the heart have holes in it before you were born? Um, because of, uh, Democrats trying to abort you. Yeah. Now that that one i was born with a hole in my heart what are the you've got some explaining yeah they're just little little clothes hanger

holes what are the oh geez what are the layers of the heart wall called uh the aorta. What is the pericardium? Uh, the pericardium is the outer layers of the heart. What system is the heart part of? Um, the vascular system. Okay. What are arteries? Arteries. That's what I wanted.

Arteries are the things that come out of it. You have a clogged artery. So arteries are the bits that fill up with fat that give you fucking heart attacks, man. That's what they are? Yeah. That's all they do. That's all they do? That's their purpose. Yeah.

They normally pump stuff through. You get a main artery. A main, okay, so you've got your veins. What are veins? That was the next question. So you've got your veins, which are the smaller little things that you can see. And then your arteries are your, like, you call the veins the branches and the arteries are the trunks what about capillaries capillaries are the bits that if you pinch on your skin then they they're just blood vessels can uh

can make it red their blood vessels of the skin okay how does a heart beat like what makes it beat oh uh what makes it beat um hot chicks you know it's interesting when i was when we were writing those questions i was like yeah what does make a heartbeat i don't know that's a what is a cardiac cycle cardiac cycle is how long it takes the blood to go all the way through your body and back to your heart and then when does the human heart start beating first? Around, I want to believe, like three weeks after conception or something like that. What is the vagus nerve? It's that they think that nothing will escape there,

that only information there. The nerve of these people. What happens in the vagus nerve stays in the vagus nerve? Yeah. Okay. Do you know what an electrocardiogram is? Electrocardiogram. Is that the bit that goes clear?

I don't know. Is that your answer? Yeah. Clear. What is the sinus rhythm? Is that your answer? That's your answer. That's it.

Okay. Write that note down there, Kelly. He's breathing. I didn't even see it. He's just breathing. He's going. Okay. Write that note down there, Kelly. He's breathing. I didn't even see it. He's just breathing. He's going. It's the same rhythm of the song. I'm a scat man.

Okay. Oh, wow. Okay. A couple more questions. How should a healthy heart sound? Yeah. Like I go to the gym every day. I try to eat well.

Like, you know, the food you put in is fuel. If you put bad fuel into your car, would your car run good? I don't think so. It would sound really obnoxious. Okay. And all that type of stuff. Now, what's the question? How should a healthy heart sound?

Boop, boop. Boop, boop. Okay. What's making those sounds? Boop, boop. Boop, boop. Me. I'm making it right now.

The DJ in there. What's making those sounds? Me. I'm making it right now. The DJ in there. What's making those sounds? Your heart is. The pump. But what part of the heart? The aorta. Okay. Word of the day.

What are some examples of cardiovascular diseases? And what would cause the specific ones? Angina. What causes that? That's a heart attack that just creeps up on you and kills you. Clogged arteries and that refers to you'll have a heart attack and you'll need a bypass to go past one valve to the other valve. You can have a stint put in there.

My nana, Betty Bell, lovely lady, although she raised my mother, so she might have been a menace. We don't know. I only knew her towards the end. You pivoted quick on that. I only knew her. She was very nice to me, but how does my mother and my auntie come

from that lady, I'll never know. You know what I mean? Well, sure. My grandfather was nice to me. She had a thing in her heart that made her sound like she was an old clock. It used to go. I think there was a valve in there that was moving like a stint or something like that. But she sounded like a clock all fucking day.

It was really weird. She was like the crocodile from Peter Pan. You could hear it? I could hear it. I could hear it outside her body at all times. You'd be sitting next to it and go like that she just sounded like a clock it was fucking bananas okay so angina clogged arteries anything else um cardiovascular cardiovascular heart disease it's regular heart causes that you can get that from smoking or whatever like that or toxins no one knows but it's like it it's almost like cancer of the heart.

The heart gets all spotty and shitty. What about total eclipse of the heart? No, that's not a real thing for us. You're being ridiculous. Okay. Sorry. All right. Are you done?

Yeah, I don't want to be here. How do you feel you did? Oh, right. I don't even want to be around anymore. How do you feel you did, Jim? right. I don't even want to be around anymore. How do you feel you did, Jim? I feel like this is an information I need, and I'll leave it up to doctors. Hey, that's not a bad.

There's never going to be a time where I fix your heart, your heart, your heart on my own heart. Okay. I've broken a few in me day. Never put them back together. Dr. Adam Case, how did Jim do on his knowledge of heart? Zero through 10, 10's the best. started out real strong you know the the the questions that i went through with the kindergartners recently and then um and then you kind of fell off the cliff so i'm

gonna i'm gonna give you a solid three out of Confidence, Kelly. Smarter than a kindergarten. Yeah. New show. Today, I'm going with confidence that he has heart disease, and it's a 10. Wow. Okay. So that's a 13. Does anyone know the word kinder means children in German? Give me another point, man.

I'm going to give you two on et cetera because you're 15. I don't want to say the first thing again, So you're just going to be Kevin Hart today. I like Kevin Hart. Yeah. Hey, great bank account. We're back. What do I need to know what the heart does? Why would I need to know that?

Why do you need to know what anything does? Yeah. Just be smug around others. This is like our hundred and something episode, and you didn't need to know a lot of the stuff on here. Yeah, but a lot of the things, like when we did pizza the other week, I thought that's something I need to know. You need to know a lot of the stuff on here. Yeah, but a lot of the things, like when we did pizza the other week, I thought, that's something I need to know. You need to know pizza when you're eating it. I think it's good to know about your heart, like,

especially as you get older, you should know things. Also, it's just, it's crazy that this is a thing, it's a thing that, like, keeps us alive and I don't fucking know how it works. Did you know all these answers first? Did you know all these? I knew a lot of them at the beginning. I knew a lot of the ones that you got wrong.

But there's like, how does the heart beat? I didn't know. Once I started thinking about it, I was like, I actually don't know. I just like, it does it. Exactly what you thought of in your head. It just beats. I don't know. But let's get the answers here.

So what does the heart do? Jim said, pumps blood through your body. It's a pump. Makes you fall in love. Keeps your body oxidated. Spot on. That's pretty much its main function is it's the pump of the blood. But I do want to point out something

that you were saying, you know, who cares about this? I know you do, mate. I do. I don't want to shit on your occupation. No, no, no. And I'm glad that people do care because there's doctors and stuff. And, you know, I'm happy about that. do you know that technically death is defined as heart arrest heart stopping cardiac arrest that's death it's when it's when blood stops getting to the brain right because your

heart can stop for a bit right and you can it it can but when you go into cardiac arrest that's basically when they're gonna where they're gonna call you dead yeah because you could be not breathing but they could put you in oxygen and as long as your heart's still where they're going to call you dead. Yeah, because you could be not breathing, but they could put you on oxygen. And as long as your heart's still pumping, you're still alive. But if your heart stops, then you're dead, right? Yeah, that's pretty much, I mean, when you really think about it, that's what kills everyone, right? I mean, because essentially, even if you have cancer or something else,

eventually it's going to make your heart stop, your blood stop, and you're done. So RJ didn't do anything wrong. She just had a bad heart? I hate my life. All right. Ask Jim where it's located, how big it is, and what shape is it. In your chest, man. Off to the left, size of your fist, shaped like a rock from the Temple of Doom.

It's off to the right, isn't it? Again, no. I got it. I got it. Good, good, good. Spot on. Left side, fit a little bit larger than your fist. And it is, you know, we saw the picture on Kelly, but yeah, it's that kind of like, I

don't even know how you describe it, like a bullet shape kind of almost. I mean, I'm in Texas, so, you know. Too soon. It was bullets. All right. Who was the first person to make it what we know in drawings when you go, that's a heart? Was that like, was there some artist who first did that? Yeah, so the whole concept

of the Valentine's Day heart was actually the thought of what the heart looked like. They thought it was like this weird three-chambered thing with... So it's basically a historical rendition of the heart, but that's not what it looks like. Yeah, then someone cut open a body and they're like, holy shit.

Yeah, but it's... It's much they're like, Holy shit. Yeah. It's much nicer than what the one that Kelly's got. Like I don't, I don't want a box of chocolates shaped like an actual heart. Yeah. That would be a good novelty item. I love you. Here you go. Here's some organs.

And it's all the way. I thought it was like just off center to the left, right? Yeah. It pretty much. Yeah yeah it's right actually on your center and then goes left there are some people

a small population that it's actually flipped it goes the other way it's because they're so small their chests are very tiny oh yeah small population yeah

true on average how many times does your heart beat per day Jim said 100,000 and it pumps 24 gallons of blood per day. So first part, right on. And you're exactly right.

It totally depends on your heart rate. So some people have really slow heart rates. Some are high, but you're going to hover right around that 100,000. The blood, though, not so close. But man, I got 100,000. You know how many numbers there are in the world? I know. And you were doing some really fast math too.

I don't know if it was fast, but I was doing it. It cuts down to be fast. You've got about one and a half gallons of blood inside you. So liters, I guess, multiply that roughly by three. So, right. But your heart actually is pumping around 2 000 gallons per day for the day not circulating i'm a little bit anemic it was less wait so i'm just doing the math there so in a year you're pumped your heart beats through 36 million times unless you exercise a

lot then it's a little bit higher than that i guess is there a theory there's a theory that your heart's only got a certain amount of beats in it and so that's why i don't exercise because i don't want the heart to go i think that was trump's theory i think you're thinking of like eggs that a woman has yeah i was like i don't i don't think there's any science to back that up there's no science to debunk it though is there i guess you got me there wait so if it's 36 and a half million per year so by the time you're 10 it's beat 360 million times wow that's a lot that was on my point yeah um uh how many chambers are in a human heart what do they call it he said five and he just said valves yeah no so there's four and there are two atria or atrium and there are two ventricles so when someone has

a quadruple bypass what does that mean because you're running out of holes yeah yeah so it actually the quadruple bypass doesn't really have anything to really do with the atrium and the ventricles. It actually means you're bypassing like four different blood vessels on the heart. So you know you were talking about how the blood vessels get clogged up, give you a heart attack. What can happen is you can literally have four major vessels that are blocked. And so they actually bypass them with grafts, like basically artificial blood vessels that go around them. Right, right, right. Wow.

Because that was my theory, because I've heard of people having quadruple bypasses. I thought you'd need an extra hole to be able to do that, to keep pumping it. Yeah. So there was, give me another point. Okay. You're killing it. Speaking of holes, why does the heart have holes in it before you were born? Democrats trying to abort you.

Close. But no. Basically, if you think about it, before you're born, your lungs aren't working. So if your lungs aren't working, you got to get the oxygen from somewhere. So you get that from the placenta and then the umbilical cord going through what becomes your belly button. And then that actually goes into the heart and your heart has these holes in it. So the oxygen can mix in your blood and then go out. But the minute you're born,

those holes actually start to close up because your lungs start working. But as we heard from Kelly, sometimes they don't. And you can still have one of these holes in your heart, which can either be fixed surgically. You can live with it the rest of your life. It depends on how severe it is. Isn't blood squirting out of it though? It's not really squirting out of it because the holes are actually inside the heart. So what it's doing is it's connecting two of those chambers that normally would be separate. Okay. Right. So does it actually have anything to do with your emotions? When we say someone's died of a broken heart or anything like that, is that because stress that's put onto your heart? Because people do die from broken hearts.

People like Carrie Fisher's mother, she died a couple of days later. She was so devastated and her heart just packed in. And also the guy with the school shooting. The school shooting with the husband. The teacher that got shot in Texas. The next day he died, you know? So is that a thing? So it's, you know, it's kind of a thing.

Meaning absolutely your mental state can have a major impact on your heart. I mean, that's kind of partially what I study. But it can go the other way. People that actually have heart failure have a really high increased risk of depression and high incidence of depression. So there is absolutely communication between the two. That's, I think, an area, like I said, I'm researching, but an area that's still pretty unclear exactly how it works. In the times in my life where I feel like I've been heartbroken and like there was one time I thought I was really heartbroken and now I look back and I'm like, what the fuck was that all about?

But I remember having pain in my chest. I remember like physically feeling pain in my chest. Yeah, I've had that before. Yeah. With a relationship. Yeah. And is that your heart or is that just anxiety and everything? Yeah.

So I'm going to guess it's going to be a lot more of kind of the anxiety, but we had a question on here about the vagus nerve. And that is actually, you didn't get that one right either. That one's not Las Vegas nerve. It's Vegas spelled with a U. It's part of this autonomic, which is another fancy word for automatic nervous system. It's the nervous system that you don't control, right? Like I'm controlling my hands right now, but I'm not controlling my heart rate. And so that vagus nerve is part of that. And so with that, when you have this emotional state, like your heart's broken or you're depressed, that automatic system can get really out of whack. And so likely that's contributing a big component to why you might feel pain in your chest or something along those lines. Why does some people have such a low, is it Bjorn Borg? Bjorn Borg, the tennis

player? Was that his name? That's a tennis player, yeah. Yeah, Bjorn Borg, right? So when he played McEnroe and everything like that, and he retired at a very young age, but they reckon that his heart never went above 50 or something like that. Lance Armstrong. Yeah, and his heart always stayed low and all that type of stuff. And he was like that ever since he was a kid. Is that just a bit of luck or do you want that? Do you not want that? No, I mean, I'm sure there's disorders that can do that, but in those situations, that's all conditioning. That's all exercise conditioning. You know, Olympic runners, athletes all usually have pretty low resting heart rates. There is some evidence that you can, you know, there's been evidence that certain types of people that meditate or use certain types of breathing techniques can actually control their heart rate and control that.

But again, it all usually comes down to practice and conditioning more than anything else. Yeah. I find if I take a deep breath and I just sort of take a moment, I can get my heartbeat to go down, but I don't think I'm controlling it. Sometimes you ever like when you fuck and then like afterwards you're laying

there and you see like your chest, like moving a little bit like that. I'm always like, that can't be good. In your neck. I don't do it in your neck. I'm always like, that can't be good. In your neck. I don't do it in your neck. I'm seeing my heart beat through my fucking chest. Yeah.

What's all that about? I got nothing on that one. But just going back, I meant to ask you, wait, so the oxygen, and I don't know anything about babies, the oxygen comes to the umbilical cord then?

Yep. Yep. Because like I said, everything has to come comes to the umbilical cord. Yep. Because like I said, everything has to come really through the umbilical cord and the placenta because you don't eat and you're not breathing. So, but the baby needs everything that you need essentially. And so it has to come through that direction. All right.

What are the layers of the heart wall called? Jim said aorta. Now the aorta is a are the layers of the heart wall called? Jim said, aorta. Now they, or does a big blood vessel leaving the heart, but the, the layers are, they're fancy words, but they're endo cardium,

myocardium, epicardium, pericardium. So the, the cardium is just the heart. And then it's just the different layers of them. Keeping up with the cardiums. Yep.

Yep. I'm going to be a good show. Yeah. And then i asked what pericardium is what the pericardium why don't i ask what the pericardium is that's a different one it's all this all parts of the layers yeah so the pair you got that right the pericardium is the outer layer but really what it is is it's essentially like a lubricating sleeve so if you think about the heart's moving all day, constantly, it generate a lot of friction. So it actually has this layer of fluid outside of it, outside that the pericardium holds it, and that keeps it lubricated and the friction down. So it's like the opposite of the super crust, Jim. Do you believe that the heart has any intelligence that we haven't, science hasn't figured out yet.

Because I don't believe all this mumbo-jumbo, but I've read stories, I've seen stories of people who have had heart transplants and all of a sudden they could speak a different language or they felt connected to the, you know what I mean, or is that stuff just bumpkin or like, you know what I'm saying? I do. There's this theory that the brain isn't doing all the intelligence, that other organs are carrying a bit of the weight that we don't know about.

Is that just a load of bullshit? So I'll tell you this. The whole language thing, that's a bit of a stretch. But I can tell you, we can do some pretty interesting things in rodents. A classic experiment is if you take, say, the immune system. Your dick out. Yeah. You take the immune system from like an animal

that has depression and put it into another animal. That animal can actually get depressed. So there's, you know, there's elements of that. But to say something like a heart gave me a new language or memories,

I think that's a bit of a stretch. All right. So if I die in a car accident, they take my heart, they give it to somebody else. Would they be funnier or less funny if you're a critic of mine? No, it's your funny bone.

You already took the joke right out of there. I don't think so. I don't think that's going to have much of an impact. The thing about the depression and the immune system, though, that that that could be because you just got your immune system replaced. So the experiment should be you should take the immune system of someone that's happy and put it into another animal see if they're happy i think also i would guess too because when your body's not working properly like you know when i had all the issues my organs failing essentially it's like your body isn't working properly and so nothing works right and so that affects everything in it Like your body hurts and you feel more lethargic, which are all things that then could make you feel shitty or depressed.

Absolutely. Right. And especially if you get a heart transplant and you've been living with a failing heart for so long that you just feel like absolute shit and then you get a new heart and now you're feeling great. You could think like, wow, this heart brought me all this extra,

you know, more than it's actually doing, right? Right. So if you've got a racist, right, and they're having heart failure, and then they get the heart of a race that they didn't like put into them, could they be less racist? And they don't know. This is the storyline of Get Out. They reject the heart.

Screw that. The cure to racism is a heart transplant from another race. Listen to Kelly Blackheart there. What system is the heart part of? Jim said vascular. Close. It's cardiovascular system. You just forgot the heart part.

I've never done cardio. Yeah. He's like, you've only done vascular. Yeah, I only do vascular. What's vascular? What is vascular? Sl, I only do vascular. What's vascular? What is vascular? Slaying down. Thinking about it.

I got to do vascular workout, guys. That's called vertical, not vascular. What are arteries? Jim said the bit that fills up with fat to give you heart attacks. Veins, smaller things that you can see, branches, blood vessels of the skin. Yeah, so the arteries, the trunks, blood vessels of the skin. Yeah. So the arteries, the trunks, the veins, the branches. Nope.

I think that's what it is. It sounded good, though. Yeah, it sounded good. But arteries, basically, this is a simple way. Arteries go away from the heart. So they usually carry oxygenated blood away to the rest of your body. Veins go back to your heart. And then capillaries is pretty much where the two meet.

And they actually are really, really microscopic. And that's where they, you know, oxygen and all the nutrients and everything diffuse in the tissues. But yep, arteries away, veins back. All right. So I was very close. Yeah. And that's why and that and that's why i don't our veins really blue i know when they're always like in the just like when you see like a

human body diagram it's like veins are blue because they're not supposed to have oxygen on or something like that or yeah so that's that's you know it's kind of funny that that basically wives tale or whatever this you know has gone on for so long. No, I mean, they're blue because of how they look through usually white skin, right? It's the light through white skin that makes them blue. But, you know, I was actually taught.

So white people have blue veins and what, what do the rest of them have? Yeah. We all have red veins basically. So I was actually taught this in school. I remember learning this and thinking that, wow, I had a pretty shit education apparently because essentially I was taught

that if blood doesn't have oxygen, it's blue and that's what makes your veins blue. And that's why if you cut yourself, it turns red right away because it hits oxygen and it's just garbage. Basically. Yeah. Blood is red and blood without oxygen is dark red. Do all animals have red blood?

Oh, we had an episode recently where we found out one did. No. And I mean, I'd say the majority do. And that's just because of what blood is made up of. That's what gives it the red colors, the iron. But there's tons of little critters out there. Yeah. And then there's also a type of crab.

I think that also has blue blood and whatnot. And again, it's all about the metal in it that gives it the color. And rich people have blue blood. Yeah. How does a heart beat? Jim said hot chicks. Yeah. You get a hot chick walking by, man.

So this one blows people's mind. This one's usually what a lot of people don't know. So the heart actually beats all on its own. Meaning, in fact, if I take a heart out of a human body and I take all those little individual heart cells and put them onto a dish, they'll all actually beat by themselves. The key is that they beat independently of one another when they're on a dish.

But in your heart, they're synchronized with you. What you have is a pacemaker on the inside. It's called a node. And that synchronizes them so they all contract at the same time. But naturally, they just contract. It's part of being a heart cell. It's like a conductor or an orchestra, basically. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

It's putting them all in the same synchronous beat cycle. But what's making them beat? Is there electricity or something? What's the thing saying? God, obviously. I mean, that goes, that goes really deep, but it basically is just this cyclical pattern of contraction and

relaxation. That's just basically programmed into those cells. Wow. What animal has the biggest heart? A whale. No, wrong. What's the answer?

It's a rabbit. Cause they're just, they're really giving a knife. Okay. I mean, you made me think about it. I don't know. I think it says blue whale.

Blue whale. There we go. It's, it's a 78 foot. That cannot be right. Jesus. Actually, it probably is.

It says a blue whale it probably is. It says a blue whale. It is... Oh no, it was extracted from a 78-foot blue whale. It weighed 440 pounds or 199 kilograms and it measured 5 feet

from the top of the order to the bottom of the lowest chamber. There you go. One fact. Um, uh, what, uh, is a cardiac cycle?

Jim said, how long it takes to blood go all the way through the body and back to your heart. That was a good guess. It's basically just one beat to the next beat. That's a cardiac cycle. Yep. Okay.

And then, um, you can't even say that in the amount of time it takes to do it. Yeah. Well, if you're Lance Armstrong, you can. When does a human heart start beating? Jim said three weeks after conception. That's really good because usually the rule of thumb is around six weeks. That's what usually people say. They go in, give an ultrasound at six weeks, but there is evidence. It actually starts earlier than that. Usually around somewhere three to four weeks, depends on which reference you're citing,

I guess. So before that, just sitting there with just blood sitting in there, getting all, all, all funky. So if you think about it, you're so small, you're so small that you actually just the, the surrounding environment is giving you what you need, your oxygen and your nutrients, right? But once you get big enough, you need something on the inside to actually pump the nutrients and oxygen around. And so that's why that heart develops pretty early to get that going. Is there anything to it though that when you're pregnant,

they say that you're like six weeks along because they're just guessing it's based on the date of your last period and stuff like that so it's probably i mean it's probably in that range but some people have like they've got an earlier or that i they're they're three weeks pregnant because they're guessing based on absolutely yeah absolutely it's it's very you know i'm not i'm not an ob-gyn but it is it is very tricky to know exactly it's got to be in that window of a right there's a window those are always hard to figure out yeah all right and then um what is the vegas nerve we talked about that uh yep what is an electrocardiogram or ekg jim said it's when you

go clear ah no i wish that's that's really cool, but it's not. The EKG is basically the thing you see on all the TV shows that like go, and then it like when you die at flat lines, that's all that's really doing is, you know how we talked about. It's monitoring your pulse, right? Not really. It's actually measuring those electrical impulses that synchronize the heart.

Remember the heartbeat, it sends all that electricity down it. And those are actually measuring that electrical impulse. And so that's why they put all those little leads on your chest to measure that. I always forget one when they take it off. I just had a, I just had a heart stress test on my thing and they put them on you and then

you get home and there's two on you. Yeah. For us. Tell us about that. You were, you were saying the other day that you're just what topless on a treadmill. Yeah, no, I, I had like, I had like started getting like pains here were near where my heart was, but not like harsh pain. Like if on a scale of one to 10, they're like two or three, but it was like sore, you know? And, and then the doctor was like, ah, it's probably muscle stuff.

I was playing a lot more golf then and there, whatever. But still, he was like, you know, if you want to feel better, just go to a cardiologist and get checked out. You're going to be, you're old. So, uh, I went there and literally I went in the waiting room and I was the youngest by 40 years. And that way I walked in and they were like, are you here to pick somebody up? I'm like, I'm getting a stress test heart i'm fat can't you see and so i go in there and then there's just two women chatting the whole time like take your shirt off and then i just have to take my shirt off and they stick all these things on there and they put all these wires on me and i'm like

wearing a band around like for breathing and stuff and then they do i'm just sitting there shirtless with like it's cold shirtless with all this stuff stuck on me for like 40 minutes just sitting there and have the door open so people are walking by all of a sudden i want him to close the door i'm like can you close the door that's the stress test right there and then you get on then you get on a treadmill and in front of the treadmill they had this like uh some wallpaper of a forest like you were going to be running through the forest they just had a hamburger on a stick. The forest kept chasing it.

And then a doctor comes in and just stands there and watches you and smokes a cigarette. Like, no, you just like, he said my heart was good. And then they did a sonogram on my heart too. They did put a bunch of jelly in my heart and they looked at it to, I guess,

to see the size. And he said, everything's good. He said, come back in six months. He wants me to lose 24 pounds in the next six months. He looked at Forrest and he said, come back in a year. And then he looked at him and gave him, actually, six months.

Can you be here next week? But I guess he said everything was good. But even still, sometimes I get little aches, like right here. I had one yesterday, and it was probably because of this podcast. So I was thinking about it, doing the heart. But I had a little ache here. It's not hard. It doesn't really hurt, but it just, your brain, as you get older,

you're like, well, there's a pain near my heart. So I guess I'm dying. You know? Man, we're going to play this recording when you have a heart attack. I'm going to play the shit out of this. I'm going to feel bad about joking about it now. Yeah. We'll edit that part out.

What is the sinus rhythm? Jim said heavy breathing, similar to the Scatman song. No. So that internal pacemaker is actually called the sinoatrial node. So basically, it's just when you have a normal everyday heart rhythm, that's called sinus rhythm because it's coming from that internal pacemaker and everything's good does that have anything to do with the sinuses in your nose no okay no you said nothing the whole podcast and then you came out with does that have anything to do with the sign just making sure i'm just making sure the nose isn't connected to the heart i thought the sinuses i thought the

sinuses were up in your temples anyways. Well, it's in the face. Have you ever heard of the clock ticking heart like my nana? That's a real thing. Well, you taught me about it. I'm assuming she must have had either a mechanical valve in there that was clicking every time the heartbeat, or she had some type of pacemaker implanted. No, it was a mechanical

valve okay yeah that's amazing that you could hear outside of her body oh you could hear it she'd be asleep and snore tick snore wow so she must have just like it must have to be something she just didn't hear after a while after a while but it's like yeah you could hear her shuffling about um how should a healthy heart sound? Jim said, bro, we did a little American Jim bro thing. But then he goes, and then what makes me sound,

he said, the heart, yelled at me. He said, the heart, the pump, the aorta. I'm going to be the reason this guy has a heart attack. It was from Jim yelling. So, close. Actually, the technical terms, and i'm not kidding you the technical is lub dub lub dub right and i love that and all that the sound is is the valves closing so the valves are basically like doors so they don't the blood goes one way and then they

shut so blood doesn't go the wrong way and that and that shutting of the valve is the and that's basically you're hearing the valve shut and it should go when you're exercising yeah it goes a lot faster if you have if there you have a broken valve or something you can get a heart murmur which is when the valves don't close properly or you have something going wrong. And so that's just the sound that I make. And that's how it should sound as love dub. Yep. What would an unhealthy sound of a heart? Oh my God. I mean, there are people that literally do four-year cardiology residencies to learn all the different heart sounds. I mean, it's crazy.

Those guys are amazing what they can hear in your heart. But yeah, I mean, skipped beats, more lubs and more dubs. You know, it just depends on... If it sounds like a smashed window. Yeah. I thought you were going to say if it sounds like smash now.

Nine-inch nails. That's a bad one okay i can't do a nine inch nail depression right right to us leave a comment um examples of cardiovascular diseases and what caused them jim said angina causes heart attack clog arteries um betty bell was a crocodile from peter i don't remember what that was heart disease banana had a ticking heart like the crocodile from Peter Pan. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

My Nana's name was Betty Bell. Okay. Sorry. It was a long time ago. I'm a good note taker. Yeah. Cancer of the heart. So what are,

maybe we can just talk about cardiovascular diseases, what caused them. And you mentioned PTSD and heart disease is something you study. Who has, quick question, who has a better heart, man or woman? Because, you know, men tend to have more heart attacks.

The Zoom didn't freeze. I just shut up. No, but like I'm not going to get into different races or anything like that. But do men have stronger hearts than women or do women have stronger? Because women live longer, right? Because they don't work as hard, right? We can all agree on that, that they never have to do any manual labor and they complain about that and that makes them live forever.

It's such a piece of shit. Right? And so cardiovascular disease. So obviously nagging makes your heart stronger. Can you confirm that nagging makes your heart stronger? I'll take your silence as a yes. Nope. I'll change it.

I'll change it. The bigger people with testicles have stronger hearts than people without testicles. You won't get in trouble there. So I'll answer this better. So bigger people, regardless of of gender or anything have stronger hearts because they have to push more blood further right so but kelly's like six two she's over the moon with this answer she's like but there is a limit there's a limit to the point where you can actually strain your heart so it can't do it that's's why, obviously, obesity is not great,

because it can put a big strain on your heart. But you know what? Basketball players age terribly, and it's like when you see a basketball player, someone that's like 6'8", 6'9", I feel because their heart must work so much harder. They get joint problems, don't they? Yeah, but I think everything goes,

because they're so big that their body wears down quicker. Sometimes you'll see a basketball player, and he's only been retired six years. You're like, holy shit, you look terrible. What's the best size to have a heart? What size of a person? Yeah, where you go. Oh, that's a good heart size.

5'10". That's me. Please, please, please. I mean, I'm going to say it depends on the heart to body ratio, if that makes sense. I'm out on that one. Because, yeah, because you could be a tiny person and if you have a really big heart heart to body ratio, if that makes sense. Right. Yeah. Because you could have, you could be a tiny person. And if you have a really big heart, that's really strong. Well, that's excellent.

But you know, you can put that, that heart in a bigger person. It might not be strong enough. So it's gotta be, it's gotta be, it's kind of a cop out answer, but it's a definitely a relative ratio. Over the course of my life. I've had a lot of people call me a heartless bastard. Is that a thing it is i don't think it means you lack an actual heart but it is a thing i think you have a good heart jim i know that's one thing you got a good i got a good deal yeah your liver oh yeah uh so cardiovascular diseases yeah yeah some fun stuff here right so you were you were talking so

you know you had your chest pain right and so you were so jeff was right on that's the doctors were likely thinking you were having angina or angina however you want to pronounce it and what that is is that's basically the predecessor to a heart attack oh nice yeah it basically means that your heart like your arteries are somewhat clogged or they're basically that'd be possible yeah and then you could get this you know intermittent chest pain and so what they want to do is they want to basically stress you out to see if it gets worse and if if it does, that's a pretty good sign you're on your way to a heart attack. But since you didn't, that's why they probably said just muscle

because it didn't get worse. So they were testing to see if that's what it was. So they were eliminating. They were saying it's either muscle or angina. So I can just keep eating cheesesteaks. I'll tell you what happened. When Forrest left, the nurse went to the doctor. Why did you tell him that? Let him enjoy his last few days.

That's negligence. I'm like, that's my practice, yeah. There's no reason to upset him. What can you do to unclog your arteries? Oh, just one thing. Okay, so is it your left arm that goes numb before a heart attack? Your left arm. So, yeah, so I had a friend who recently died of a heart attack.

A comic. And he was working on the cruise ships and he was joking about it on stage. He was like, oh, my left arm isn't working. I'm not having a heart attack

that night. No good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was joking about it hours before. He was joking about it. When you have a heart attack,

it's clogged arteries always, right? Is that the... Pretty much. That's going to be the vast, vast, vast majority of the cause of heart attack. I'm thinking I's clogged arteries always right is that the i mean pretty much that's going to be the vast vast vast majority of the cause of heart attack i'm thinking i've clogged my arteries with some of my diet all right so how do i unclog my arteries both my grandfather's one of my grandfather's died of a heart attack in his 50s when my father was like 14 years old trying to find how to unclog my heart i know we're getting that. It's all in the same field. And my other grandfather died in his early 60s of a heart attack.

When am I going to die of a heart attack? How does that get into it? He's a heart doctor and a psych. Jim and I would like to unplug our arteries. How do we do that? How do we do that? Is it like docking? No.

It's not. It's sad that you know what that is, though. Someone let it slip. You could have just played dumb there and looked at me weirdly. Instead, you went, is it Tuesday already? No boats involved here. Kale. Will kale do it?

No. So basically, if your arteries are already clogged, likely they're not going to get any better. You can prevent them from getting worse by, of course, you know what I'm going to say, diet, exercise, and there's medications that can lower that too. But unfortunately, once they get to a certain level, you're kind of stuck there. Now, if you have a heart attack, right, if you actually have a legitimate heart attack, they often will go in and they'll actually reinflate the vessel and put in like a stent, which is basically just like a metal mesh that keeps it open so that, you know, you're not clogged anymore and the blood can get through. But that's that's a get through. That's a significant procedure. You're not just going into

your doctor and be like, hey, put a stent in me so I can eat cheeseburgers. For the body being designed poorly. I think my mother had a stent in her heart. I think. If they had a heart attack, likely they did. How would they know my arteries are clogged? By the stress test, right? That's an early way to

say that they're getting clogged. And then if you go in and like, if you go to the hospital with a heart attack, they'll actually image them. They'll put like a radioactive dye into your heart and they'll see if there's a blockage. Like they'll see if it can get through or not. And then they say, oh, well, that one's clogged.

We got to open that one up. So to paraphrase first, There's nothing you can do. No, well, I think there is. Because I had the stress test and they said everything looks good. So what I should do is get in shape and eat better now because I probably am doing okay. I'm not saying great, but okay, like as far as that is. Yeah. You can, in theory, you know.

I'm starting tomorrow. You can slow it down, right? You can slow the process significantly with healthy lifestyle. Also, how long do you really want to live? I mean, you know, I don't want to talk about that. I've talked about it before. I've got a vision board. 65.

65's your vision board? I mean, I don't have kids. I'm not married. No, no. I just want to stick around and be wise. Optimistic. Okay. Good for you. Good. Yeah, Jim just had the whole thing. Wow, okay.

Good for you. Good for you, Boris. I'll stop saving that money for the funeral then. Yeah, wait a couple years. I got some in crypto. Don't worry about it. So... Just when you do die, don't make me a pallbearer.

Just a nice gesture. I'm getting a shave show tomorrow. Start tomorrow. Angina and then what was the other one? Have you ever been a pallbearer? It sucks, man. Just a nice gesture. I'm getting a shave starting tomorrow. Starting tomorrow. Angina and then what was the other one? Have you ever been a pallbearer? It sucks, man. Yeah, you don't want to be that. Those boxes are fucking heavy, dude.

Especially if it's like an older person, then a lot of their friends are old. And I was like, that looks heavy for those guys. I think someone carried my mother's box in or something like that. And the box is like 250. And then like she was 300. It's heavy. It's a heavy ass fucking thing that i make

people do it's always six divided by that number so if you're and you're meant to just balance it on your shoulders what a fucking bum deal that is like like if i can uh bruce lee's uh paul bearers where someone i know george lazenby is a paul bearer right? The James Bond. But then I believe, and I think I know this because I interviewed him, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, right, was a pallbearer. That doesn't even make sense. He's way too tall to be a pallbearer. You can't all do the shoulders like that. Steve McQueen's off to the side fucking trying to act tall.

That's the best part about being tall. Bruce Lee would have been all scratched down the end of the being Bruce Lee would have been all scratched down the end of the coffin because it would have been on a tilt you know that joke about when the pallbearers and they have the coffin and the woman comes out I heard Jay Leno tell it

tell the joke there's a funeral and there's a big church and they're carrying the casket to the car to go to the cemetery and the pallbearers are carrying it and then one of them gets too close to like one of the pews and it bumps up a little bit and then all of a sudden

the casket flies open and a woman jumps up and she's alive and everyone's like what? And she goes, yeah, I'm fine. Everything's great. And everyone's like amazed and like, holy cow, how could this be? And she ends up being healthy and she ends up living like another 15 years. You know what I mean?

But then she eventually dies again, and then they're back at her funeral again. And the same thing, the pallbearers are bringing the casket out. And then the husband's like, hey, watch the corner there. So watch the corner. There you go. Messed it up there. So heart attacks. Anything else? heart no is that

it oh i mean so that's everything so you you spend your whole you spend your whole life learning this and we did it in 45 minutes i'm at the cardiovascular diseases you were talking about heart disease and ptsd maybe you can talk about that yeah so i mean there's a lot of different cardiovascular diseases but yeah no my research focuses pretty much much on PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder, and cardiovascular disease. Because for some reason, and it's still unclear, people that have gone through these horrible traumas have this huge elevated risk for cardiovascular disease. And now, I bet I know what you're thinking because

I get this question a lot. They say, well, people go, well, of course they do. They're smoking, they're drinking, their unhealthy lifestyles go along with people that maybe have experienced trauma. But that's not true. That's actually been factored out, looked into, explored, and there's still this risk. So it kind of goes back to this whole idea of something's going on between the brain and the rest of the body. And when one goes out of whack, it sends the whole thing into a spiral. Is it bad then? Because I would assume that if you have PTSD, there's these triggering events that would make your heart race and make you have all these stress and anxiety type things that would stress your heart out. Is your heart race and make you have all these stress and anxiety type things that would stress your heart out is, is your heart beating faster? Um, more often that is that innately bad for the heart

or. Yeah. So you're basically, absolutely. You're basically PTSD is kind of this heightened state of anxiety and fear. And so with that comes this heightened heart rate and more workload on your cardiovascular system, which is probably a likely contributor to why there is that connection. So Johnny Depp said that he had PTSD from the relationship and then Amber heard him say that, and she said that she had it as well. So here's a scientific. Whichever one of them dies first wins the case. Oh, yeah. Great. It's like the Salem witch trial.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which everyone drowns. She wasn't a witch. He wasn't a witch. Here's the problem I have with heart attacks, okay? Good. What's your take? Here's the problem.

This is the problem that For cover there this is the problem that Forrest has with heart attacks no no I think everybody what if someone has one near you and you gotta help out no

I think everyone would have this this same grape alright I don't want to die of a heart attack I don't think anyone does no I do

okay no no seriously though you want to go out fast I don't want to die of cancer or anything I'd like to die old of a heart attack in the sleep

like Ray Liotta just died in his sleep yeah but that's a heart attack. In the sleep. Like Ray Liotta just died in his sleep. Yeah, but that's a heart attack. Okay. They always are. I heard that the police don't even, when you have a heart attack, they always say that they're in bed. They go, oh, he died in bed.

But most heart attacks, you go, and you crawl to the bathroom and you shit yourself a bit, and then the cops just put you back in bed. Okay, so here's my thing. No one wants to die of a heart attack, but I think the worst part in my brain is it seems painful right so why can't heart attacks be not painful you're still gonna die yeah this is a good point but the heart should be like hey you're about to die let me give you some dopamine or something that's your problem with all pain i see i always i always like i had the flu the other day i had it for about 10 days. I've just gotten over it.

Right. Yeah. And then I was like really sick for a couple of days. And I thought to myself, what's the fucking point of this? If you're not going to kill me, fuck off. Yeah,

I agree. You know what I mean? You should just be sick once and go, Oh, wait, was that head cold? The flu? Well,

I don't know. I had a cold, had a bad cold. Not a bad, not COVID. Yeah. I didn't have a cold. I had a cold.

You had it a little bit. You're fine. We call everything not COVID at this point. So you have a cold and then you get sick. I've always thought that like and people say, oh, pain is a way of your body telling you that something's wrong.

That's what they always tell you. Pain's a way of your body telling you something's wrong. Why make it painful? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why can't I be walking on the street, cum my pants, and go, I've got chicken pox. Because it would make you want chicken pox again. Yeah.

You need something to deter you. To deter you. That's why you're a doctor, my friend. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. That's fine. I'm with you. But the heart attack's going to kill you. So the heart attack's going to be my friend. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. I'm with you. But the heart attacks are going to kill you.

The heart attacks are going to be very bad. That's the whole thing. If you get dopamines from it, people will have heart attacks and they live. People try to get like Flatliners, the movie with Keith Sutherland. They try to kill themselves a little bit for the dopamines. Yeah. Okay. Maybe. But the idea

is the heart attacks, you're dying, right? But before that is the heart attacks, like you're, you're dying. Right. But before that, the pain can, in theory, stop you from doing what you're doing to that's stressing your heart. It makes you call the ambulance.

Right. Yeah. Have you ever thought, have you ever wondered like, why do you faint and pass out? I'll oftentimes, one of the reasons that is, is because then your body goes flat and the blood can get to your head easier than going against gravity.

See, Forrest, it's not because I had a belt around my neck in my closet. That's right. Sorry. Also, it has to be super painful because most people don't go to the doctor if things are minor. I don't go unless I truly think I'm dying. Sometimes you have an ingestion that's so bad, you think, oh, here it is. It's coming. go unless yeah but i don't i mean i don't go unless i truly think i'm dying sometimes you have an ingestion though that's so bad you think oh here it is it's coming i had that with mcdonald's at 1 a.m the other night i thought i was gonna die i had an ingestion so bad i didn't sleep the

whole night i was just i had to cancel a meeting this is like 15 years ago and i was like that's that's the end of me i've talked about in this podcast i called up the i thought i was having a heart attack it turned out as anxiety and the firefighters showed up and they knew i wasn't they knew it and i knew that they knew it. And then they always go to the restaurant literally next to my house, so I see them all the time like, hey, guys, doing good. Doing good. I'm meditating.

I bet if you were a hot chick, they would have checked on you a bit more. Oh, yeah, sure. They were like, do you want to go to the hospital? I was like, no. They just showed up and went, you're all right, buddy. They were like, do you want to go to the hospital? I was like, no. They just showed up and went, you're all right, buddy.

You just had like rappers, fast food rappers around you. You're going, I don't know what's happened. But if you're a hot chick in lingerie, they would have gone, let me just check your chest, dear. Yeah. There was one other question I was going to ask, but I think. Oh, we should ask that since this is the time we live in. COVID and heart disease.

I know there's still studies being done. Is there anything you can say about that? Or is it something that we don't know enough about yet or what? I definitely don't think we know a lot about it, but there is definitely a link. And the reason why is the little protein that COVID uses to get into your body, basically that is actually really prevalent in your heart. And so, and your cardiovascular system. And so that's basically why there's definitely a link to the cardiovascular system and COVID,

but the exact specifics. Yeah. It's definitely to know, especially for the long-term effects of COVID. We have no clue. And that's why when people are like, I'm just going to get it. And it's like,

okay, or if you're going to get it. And it's like, okay. Yeah, I'm trying to avoid it at all costs. Or if you're going to get it, be vaccinated where it's going to, the effects are going to be lessened or something. But it's just like, you don't want it. Yeah.

You don't, you don't want to take, you don't want to roll the dice on that one. Yeah. All right. This is part of our show called Dinner Party Facts. We ask our guests to give us a fact about the subject that they use to impress people at a dinner party,

bar or something. You had like a quick one and then a little bit of a long one, right? I remember we talked about it. Oh, I don't know about the quick one. I wasn't saying about the, we talked about the way the blood, I think we're talking about the hole in the heart, but the blood goes one way and then the other. Yeah, I think we already.

Yeah, we kind of talked about that. Basically like when you're, you know, in the womb, the blood goes a different way because of the holes in the heart. But in Australia, it goes a different way again, right? That's right. The other one, the other one gets, you know, it's great for a dinner party if you really want to be like existential. So basically here, so here's the importance of the heart.

You didn't care about it, but I'm hoping that I can get you to care about it here. So everything in the world, everything in the world wants to fall apart. Okay. So think about this for a second. If you take a glass of water and you put a drop of food coloring in, what ultimately happens? It colors the whole glass that color, right? Because everything wants to get away and fall apart and diffuse away. But if that's the case, which it is, why are you together? Why are you

one person? Why aren't you falling apart? I'm full of pot every day. Yeah, it's falling apart. But the idea is because when you die, you do fall apart, right? You decompose and you decompose and break down into all these little elements. But when you're alive, you stay together. And there's one reason for that. And that is literally energy. You consume from the environment. You eat food. You breathe in oxygen.

And all that has to go through your heart and blood to keep you in one piece together. to keep you in one piece together. And basically the day you are done, your heart stops beating and you aren't taking in that energy and making that energy, you start to fall apart just like everything else in the world. So that is why your heart is super important

because it basically keeps you in one piece. Right. So to summarize, men have weaker hearts because we work harder. That's the take home message for today. I don't know about that. You can find Dr. Adam Case on Twitter at Case Redox Lab.

And again, if you want to contribute to a good charity, Camp Hope for Combat Veterans of PTSD is ptsdusa.org slash camp-hope. And also the Corgi Connection of Kansas Dog Rescue, corgiconnection.com for that. Thanks for being here, Dr. Adam Case. Also worth mentioning, I found him because I was looking for other scientists on Skype of Scientists. Yeah, they're our friends. Yes. That's a great organization. If you have a classroom or children that you want to teach more about this, you can hit them up there too.

Yeah, happy to do it. Well, thank you, Doctor. That was very interesting. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're ever at a party and you see someone crying in the corner and they're like, I'm falling apart.

God, I know about that. Walk away. Good night, Australia. Have a sandwich.