If I Were You - 381: Game of Thrones
Episode Date: May 6, 2019In this episode we discuss hot bosses, motorcycle uncles, and phone numbers. Then Jake gives out this episodes Golden Mic and Turdy awards.Come see us in Chicago on June 15!See omny.fm/listener for pr...ivacy information.
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This is a headgum podcast.
Whoa.
Banger.
It was a rave feel.
That was an anthem.
Another one.
Throw your damn hands up.
It actually was another one from Don Keoneon.
Don Keoneon.
He actually used us talking about how much we liked his name in the actual theme song.
That's cool.
So that was a collab in a way then.
In a way it was a collab.
And he says this one features Amir's brilliant vocal adlib.
And if you wouldn't mind shouting out my SoundCloud.
I just released a new song called Xenon Lullaby.
So SoundCloud.com slash D Keoneon.
Cool.
Keoneon.
That about...
Yeah.
Donkey.
No, not donkey.
But Don.
Space.
Keoneon.
It just sounds like donkey.
On and on.
Yeah.
But that's not the case.
We're gonna donkey.
And we're gonna donkey on.
And we're gonna donkey on and on.
And then he has his phone number.
Really?
Yeah.
Don't read that.
That's probably just part of his email signature.
And he didn't turn it off.
I don't think he wants you to say his number.
Okay.
I will...
Why don't I say part of it?
I don't think you should say any of it.
Really?
Yeah.
It is part of his email signature.
Yeah.
So I don't think that it's...
I think it's absolutely unintentional.
All right.
He would...
No way does he want that getting out.
Two.
Yeah.
So don't say any part of it.
You said you were...
I'm just gonna...
You agreed.
You said, yeah.
I was like, don't say it.
You're like, yeah.
I'm like OCD about this shit that I want to read every single last corner of the...
Right.
So fine.
Say it after.
Okay.
You don't have to read every last quarter.
You read...
You've read the email actually.
You did read every...
Two, two, four.
Stop it.
You're already...
You said two, two, four.
Two, two, four, nine.
That's fine.
If you're putting your hands up, two, two, four, nine.
Yes.
Great.
No one can know the rest of his number.
Yeah.
No one's gonna...
Like obviously no one's gonna try to...
True.
Try to guess it.
You didn't say the area code yet.
You didn't say the area code.
All right.
Cool.
Yeah.
Don't...
Now we got the five.
We already know you said two, two, four, nine, five.
That's the area code.
Not two, two, four, five.
Five's not an area code.
So now you're...
And his number was two, two, four, nine.
And I don't want to say the last three digits.
That's a...
It's an invasion of his privacy.
Yes, it is.
It was an invasion of his privacy to say the first digits.
Yeah.
But now I feel like...
Now you've said...
Yeah.
Two, two, four, nine.
Yes.
Which isn't even a good way to say a phone number.
You said four digits.
I mean, traditionally it's three than four.
Yeah, usually you have two, two, four, nine, one, whatever, whatever.
Well, now you said nine.
You said nine, one now.
Yes.
Okay.
So you said two, two, four, nine, one.
We're down to two digits.
Do not say the last two digits, because people will call them.
They're funny is all.
So I feel like people might...
Well, now we know it's 69.
Right?
Is it?
Is it?
The way you just lit up, the way you're being coy and saying, is it?
It's not 69, 69 plus two.
So you did tell everyone the last two digits.
Did I?
And what's funny about the number 71?
It's not, it may not be 71, but it might be a really silly number, like 69 plus two.
So it may not be, or it might be...
Two, two, four, nine, one, 71.
That's all I'll say.
Well, you already...
That's the full number.
And yeah, you said you weren't going to do this.
Thank you, Don.
And instead of you made a whole meal out of it, you'd said it over the course of the last...
I just don't want...
I don't...
If I just said it, it would like...
It would have came and went and we would have glossed over it.
Maybe you're right.
But then we went through this whole song and dance, this whole pony show about you saying
the number or not, and now we've really highlighted the fact that you said the number.
Yeah.
And it's easy to remember.
Two, two, four, nine, one, 71.
Nice.
Yeah, good job.
I feel like...
Now I've said it.
Now I'm complicit.
And I appreciate it.
I'm going to call him to apologize.
And I appreciate you guys listening to If I Were You, the only advice podcast on the web,
hosted by us, I'm Amir.
I'm Jake.
Your brother is traveling internationally.
That's right.
But he is still working on our email or this is all backlog.
Or he...
It must be backlog.
But then he did have some long ass flights.
The baby boy's in Bali.
Whoa.
What's in Bali?
I think some eco-hostiles, some swanky, cheap, Arabian bees, infinity pools and beaches
and hot young people in their 20s, at least from what I can tell from Instagram.
Uncle Amir would have loved an invite.
When you call yourself uncle, you're really...
A few?
You're so sure to not be invited to the hostel.
I'd love to hang out with a hot Bali 20-year-olds.
What kind of 25-year-old brings his uncle to a hostel?
I want...
It won't be hostile when Uncle Amir's there.
Stop talking to yourself.
It'll be called a fun spot.
I hate that you are an uncle.
A...
A hotel.
A fun hotel.
And when Uncle Amir's in the house, no one sleeps in their cot.
We're all making a fucking forest.
You're not wearing your snorkel and your flippers, Uncle Amir.
I'm wearing a snorkel and a grind guard.
No, I would have loved to be there.
Actually, search the geotags I might hitch a ride to from his Instagram story.
Jesus.
But for now, let's try to answer some questions that he dug up in our email.
Here's one about Groomsman, which you might be able to help us out with.
Yes, because he was the best man, planned the bachelor party.
You were a Groomsman.
Yeah, okay, cool.
So we're all coming from a place of wisdom here.
I have a dilemma, writes this Groomsman.
We'll call David.
You okay?
One of your Groomsmen that I hope you can shed some light on.
My girlfriend and I just got engaged.
Super pumped about that.
Nice.
My girlfriend says that she'll probably have around five to seven bridesmaids.
My problem is, I don't know how to narrow down my Groomsman to that number.
I've lived in one town for most of my life, so I was lucky to get close to a bunch of
different people.
Over time, I went to a college and made a ton of great friends there.
If I had to list all the guys I would want in my wedding, it would easily climb to the
10 to 15 range in my wedding, I should say, which I know sounds ridiculous.
How do I narrow this down?
Is there a rule or protocol for this?
By the end of the year, I will have been in seven of my best friend's wedding as a
Groomsman, but even some of those guys probably wouldn't make the cut for my wedding.
Would they be offended if I didn't return the offer?
I know I have to narrow it down, but I also don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Help!
Thanks, dudes, longtime fan.
Thanks for all that you do.
Oh, PS, congratulations to Jake for winning the Golden Mike of the episode.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I haven't decided that for this episode.
I don't think.
Nothing.
It's too early in the episode.
Right.
It's too early in the episode to tell.
But I really feel like if you're just feigning for the Golden Mike, you don't win it.
Yeah, I'm not.
I didn't even bring it up.
It's all you think about.
No.
I don't even care.
I feel like if you reach for the Golden Mike, it's just not even going to happen.
Yeah, I don't.
Okay.
So whatever.
So whatever.
You don't care about it.
I care enough to want it, but not enough that it's desperate that I get fucking eliminated.
By the way, the award is meaningless, I should say.
All right.
So here's two things that have happened in this episode.
You say you want the Golden Mike.
I do.
You want it so bad that you're hemming and hawing backpedaling about if you wanted it or not.
Not so bad.
And then you're also saying that it's meaningless, which is another, I would say that's a disqualifier
as well.
Not disqualify.
Not disqualify.
Forget I even said that part.
Forget the PS part.
I don't even want to talk about that part.
You want to forget the Golden Mike?
You're sitting next to, by the way, an actual trophy that a fan sent us.
Yeah, and I really appreciate it.
I'm humbled, honored, chuffed and cheesed by it.
So I don't know who sent it to us, but thank you.
Jake is currently in possession of it because he won it last week.
I really don't care if I win it this week or not.
That's a DQ.
What?
That's a DQ, bud.
How?
That's a DQ.
I didn't say anything.
You say you don't give a shit about the award.
No, I said I didn't care a lot.
You said you wanted it.
You said it was meaningless.
You said you don't care.
You're DQ'd.
Three strikes, you're out.
I get the Golden Mike for this episode, 380.
Is this episode 380?
I'd have to check, but yeah, yeah.
No last week was 380, so this is 381.
So this is my 380th Golden Mike.
380 for, oh, because you had the one episode that you didn't win, and I didn't win either.
The Ben won.
Yeah.
Why was I DQ'd for this one?
Just so I know, going forward.
Going forward, because you wanted it too bad.
Then you said it didn't mean anything, and then you said forget it.
And I'm just like, I'm tracking all these things.
I hate to win it by default.
I wouldn't even consider this a win.
I'll call this episode a wash.
Okay, so why don't we both not win it?
We'll both not win it.
Well, you forfeit it.
It has to go to somebody.
It's an award, after all, and you have to give it out every single episode.
I'll take it, and I appreciate it.
I'm humbled, honored, chuffed, and cheesed.
Fine.
Fine.
You haven't given out the turdy yet, have you?
The one for the worst shittiest?
That one hasn't come out yet.
But don't try not to be hyper-focused on it, because that's a sure way to win the turdy.
I'm not going to get the turdy this week.
Watch.
All right, ready?
Yeah.
Does there have to be an equal amount of groomsmen and bridesmaids?
No.
I think it's almost more fun when you don't have that.
If you've got bridesmaids walking down with a groom on each arm, that's kind of fun.
Yeah.
I also love the idea of a rowdy, lively, big wedding party.
Having 14 of your best friends walk seven bridesmaids down the aisle, that's fun.
That's super cool.
Yeah.
I think the part that maybe you got to be a little worried about is if you have such
a big groomsmen party, I felt like mine was five, right?
Yeah.
Mine was five people.
No wait.
Yes, it was five.
If I had one more person, it would have spilled over to eight or something.
It's like a tiered system.
Exactly.
Then it's the next chunk of four.
If you have like 15, I feel like you're getting into the territory where you're like, damn,
this guy has 15 people and I still didn't get the invite.
Yeah.
But that said, I also think that on your wedding day, it's your fucking call, don't even worry
about it.
So you can have 15, she can have five.
Yeah.
I think so.
I think it's-
So you want 15?
That's a lot of people to get prepped with and worry about because it is a little stressful.
You got to get them gifts.
You got to take the pictures.
You got to have this, that, and the other.
Where do they stand?
Right.
But it's so much about the vibe that you want to create.
So if you want to have a rowdy fun getting ready, if these are your boys, then do it.
But if you're thinking, no, I want to keep it real mellow, or maybe your guys are mellow.
Who really knows?
Yeah.
But I've been in bigger wedding parties.
My brother-in-law, there was like 10 of us or something like that.
10?
I think so.
Yeah.
There was a lot.
There was a lot of friends.
And it wasn't crazy rowdy.
It was perfectly fine.
And then mine was only five people, and Carnell almost burned our room down.
So you can have a view, people, and I guess, well, he almost ruined his suit and my brother's
suit with the steamer.
The steamer.
And took a video of me in the shower.
Yes.
Yeah.
So you can either have 15 people or just one Carnell.
Yeah.
That's the exchange right there.
Yeah.
I imagine that's one of the most more stressful parts of planning a wedding is choosing your
best friends.
You have to rank a little bit.
Yeah.
There's a lot of ranking people at the wedding that's associated with planning a wedding,
because it's like, who do you want in the wedding?
Who do you want at the wedding?
Who do you want to invite to the wedding?
And then even tables, like who are you going to sit next to, who, and does this table get
a good view?
Or does this person have to sit next to Uncle Morty or something?
And who gets to sit next to Uncle Amir?
Uncle Amir gets post-Daisal drip around celebration.
It's killing a snorkel.
That's why I've, since the age of 18, I keep a running tab of the top 300 people in my
life.
And it's like a sliding scale that I adjust every day so that when I'm ready to pull the
trigger, get married.
Boom.
I know who the top 180 are.
I know who the top 240 are.
I know where they're sitting.
I know who are the groomsmen.
I know the top, however, four, five, eight, 12, 16 friends in my life.
And then that way, I'm not stressed out about it because I've been stressed out about it
since I've been fucking 12.
I know I said 18 earlier, but it was 12 earlier.
You just won the 30.
What?
You just won the goddamn 30 with your math rant, with your math rant.
No wonder I've gotten so many 30s.
A lot of them are math rants.
They're almost all math rants.
It's 15 minutes deep.
You've already won a golden mic.
I hope it's the only one of the episode because last episode, you won two.
Last other two.
And I got a fucking...
No, I won this one by default.
I didn't even want to win this one like that.
You made me win the golden mic by a four-fit, and I think for that, you win two 30s.
You four-fit the golden mic, that's an auto-30, and the math rant, that's a dual-30.
That's two number twos.
No, that wasn't good.
That's a math joke.
That's a math joke.
That's a golden mic.
Two number twos.
Wow.
It's a golden mic joke.
Two number twos.
But my 18 and 12 is a 30.
Do you see where the discrepancy is?
Two number twos.
Because it's 30.
Yes.
And number two is what you...
It's the...
No, I know the joke.
It's a numbers joke.
Mine was a numbers joke.
You gave me a shit award.
It's not a numbers joke.
It's a shit award.
And number two is sort of like the slang, the common man nomenclature for a duty.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Cool.
Congrats, by the way.
I feel like you came in here with the agenda to give yourself a golden mic.
I never had an agenda.
You were the one that brought it up.
You brought it up and you brought up the 30.
You brought up both.
Basically, you don't have to have as many groomsmen as bridesmaids.
Right.
I don't think you do.
Bingo, bingo, bongo.
Here's one from a lady.
We'll call Daenerys Targaryen.
Very nice.
That's right.
The last episode of Game of Thrones.
Episode three, season eight.
Battle of Winterfell.
Or are we in a spoil?
You have to say it up front.
Enough time has elapsed.
The spoiler has been spoiled.
It's been over a week.
That's right.
But so then still, spoiler alert, did you like it?
I obviously had no emotional attachment to any of the characters, so the deaths meant nothing to me.
It was visually cool at parts.
There were parts that looked cool.
I wouldn't say it looked any cooler than a random movie from 2010 that I would channel flip by on TBS.
A lot of people had issues with the lighting.
They said that they couldn't see the episode.
They didn't like the way it looked.
Yeah, that didn't come up in my viewing of it.
I wasn't like, this is too dark.
I'm like, oh, this is a battle scene at night, so this is what it's supposed to look like.
Did you think that it was too dark before you read all the tweets about it?
Yeah, I didn't read any tweets about it until afterwards.
During the episode, I spent 10 minutes trying to adjust the brightness on my TV.
Because it was too dark.
Yeah, I couldn't see anything.
And it wasn't until I did that on purpose, because we don't have a lot of money for special effects.
So let's make it really dark, and then it'll be like, it won't matter what things look like as much.
Well, there are parts of that, if that is the case, it worked.
The Dothraki torches were blazing, Eric's going across the field in the dark.
I don't know, maybe that wasn't a super expensive effect,
because you couldn't really see anything except the torches, but it looked awesome.
That was great.
And the rest of it, I think I read that it was more about,
they're trying to get naturalistic lighting.
Naturalistic lighting in this dragon fight?
Yeah, the people in Game of Thrones have been trying to make it muddier and bleaker at night,
because that's how medieval time was.
Yeah, this was really just being lit by torches and candles.
But it was their decision to do it at night.
Yeah, and I guess their decision to put people in an ice storm also.
Just make everything fucking hard to see.
Yeah, that was a major complaint for you.
Yeah, I thought it was annoying that it was hard to see.
Still, there was a lot of parts that were visually stunning.
I really disliked the episode.
Whoa, really disliked.
And that's the first...
I was even on board for season seven when they went beyond the wall to get the white
and bring it back to King's Landing,
which everybody or so many people thought was lame.
So you were always a Game of Thrones apologist.
Yeah, maybe this is a little unbelievable, but don't we want to see them do this?
This is cool.
Yeah.
And this is the first time where I felt like I was hoodwinked.
Hoodwinked because the battle was too dark to see or it didn't make sense for the story?
It didn't make sense for the story.
What didn't make sense for the story?
So my big concern is...
Keep in mind, I've only seen season one in this episode,
so there might be some stuff that I missed in between the episode 11 and 17.
Well, actually, this almost works.
In season one, in episode one, they show the threat of the undead.
That's right, the white walkers.
And the entire show has been about preparing for the battle of the undead.
That's why Jon Snow lets the wildlings through the wall, which you don't know,
but it's all been leading on to this.
It's why he's murdered.
Yeah, it's like everything is...
So many people's storylines are like,
stop worrying about the Game of Thrones.
The big battle, the Great War is coming.
And Cersei laughs at this.
She's like, you know, that's not real.
It's why they go beyond the wall to bring a white to King's Landing.
I see.
It's why Jaime goes up to King's Landing.
Hey, the battle of the living and the dead, that's what it's all about.
And then in a single episode, it's dispelled.
It's gone.
The battle starts and ends in 60 minutes.
And I know there are battles like Hardhome and Beyond the Wall or whatever,
Fist of the First Man, where they fight these things.
But it feels like they should have marched south.
The rest of the realm should have seen that the threat was real
and that the people who banded together in Winterfell are the real heroes of the story.
But instead, just a ton of them died and then they win.
And the rest of the realm is just like, what happened up there?
Did the White Walkers actually come like you said?
And was it part of the plan or did Arya just say like,
you know what, I'm going to hide in the tree and wait for the fucking Night King.
And it's like, don't worry about your plan.
Sorry about the 75,000 dead or whatever.
Watch this.
I did it.
I killed the king.
I mean, yeah, I have no idea.
That's like her coming out of nowhere and just like jumping through the air and stabbing him.
Maybe in the next few episodes, they'll be like, oh, here's how she did that.
It made sense.
But she's an assassin.
She spent a season training to be an assassin.
But when that happened, were you like, hell yeah.
Or were you like, what?
I was really happy because I love Arya.
And I always wanted the Night King to die.
I wanted somebody to kill him and have the entire army fall.
And that's how you kill him.
But like they also established that there's the Night King, the Whites and the White Walkers.
The White Walkers are like sort of better than just like the straight up zombies, but not quite the Night King.
They're the ones that exploded when he died.
Yeah.
Like they, those are bosses too.
Like they should have had the other heroes fight the bosses.
And like if you kill one of those things, you kill, you know, not all of the army, but a portion of it.
And it's just weird to like have all of the heroes over your story who have like, who you've, you're so invested in.
Everybody is like, I don't want these people to die.
I don't want these people to die.
And then have them in the battle.
And like the only challenge they face is just like a volume game of zombies.
Yeah.
Like Jamie on the castle.
Stabbing.
Stabbing.
Stabbing.
He doesn't have a moment where it's like, oh shit, now you have to face a boss or you and Brienne have to like take down a White Walker.
And even Daenerys and John on like their dragons, there was no like real, I guess there was a dragon fight, but there was no like.
It was too hard to see.
There wasn't, yeah, there's no heroic moment where they, where he like saved people or did anything impressive.
I just feel like if you spend eight seasons growing to love all of these characters, you have to give them a more interesting moment.
Then just like have them disappear into darkness and zombies for an entire episode only to have all of it undone with just one person stabbing the guy in the gut.
Yeah.
Did everyone know that Arya did it or they're like, whoa, what just happened?
Yeah.
Somebody unplugged all of them.
I think, I think everybody knew that that was like the way to kill the White Walkers.
It's also, that's what a insane weak link that like, all right, this is our whole army.
And if anything happens to this one guy, everyone's dead.
So let's all just make sure that nothing, no one's ever jumping out of the air at him.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
I'll stand here while you talk to this kid in a wheelchair.
This one's also really small, but I thought Theon who is like, such a, has a really cool character arc.
When he like turns and it's like, and Bran is like, you're a good man.
He's like, this is his last stand.
He just runs at him with a spear.
Yeah.
Like, you know what, it's just like.
He's totally killed.
Yeah.
At least have like.
Challenge him to a fight.
Right.
Wide stance, boy.
Come on, lad.
Fight for your life.
Just try.
Do something.
Just run at him with a spear.
That's it.
Yeah.
So he had a different plan than Arya had a different plan than the army.
It seemed like everyone was just sort of operating on their own agenda.
Right.
I think that was another thing that I really didn't like.
Like Jon Snow is supposed to be the leader of all these people and their plan is just really bad.
All of the horse people go charge into the darkness.
Okay.
They die instantly.
Then theoretically they turn into zombies.
Uh-huh.
And then we're just going to have, I don't know, I guess a little trench that needs to be.
He's fighting American gladiator style against a dragon, was it?
At what point does he yell at the dragon?
What was he trying to do to the dragon?
Oh, yeah.
Something was breathing fire at him.
Was it a monster or a dragon?
Yeah, he couldn't get by it.
So then he like finally stood up and just screamed at it.
Did that work?
Everyone just died.
Holy shit.
Jon running it.
Guys, I think I did it.
All I had to do was scream at the dragon.
Yeah, no.
Arya stabbed the Night King.
Really?
Yeah.
I thought I was as high.
There's only one way to kill the Night King.
I guess Arya had the sword.
It happened at the same time as I screamed at the dragon.
How did you penetrate the Night King?
He was just sort of walking around kind of on like an evening stroll solo dolo style.
So it wasn't that hard.
His armor was loose on the day.
He was smiling at Bran.
Yeah, he didn't really want to kill Bran.
It seemed like he was in no rush to get safe.
He felt like he was just, there was no one around him.
Yeah.
I mean, has the electro actively ruined the show for you?
No, but it definitely like, it punctured a hole in it that I don't think could be repaired.
So that's pretty bad.
Yeah.
I mean, I basically thought-
It can no longer be the greatest show.
No, I think it still can be.
But I think that they really let me down.
And it sort of felt like the-
You holding your dragon figurine the entire episode.
It was really, so two things.
One, I just like, it made the show creators and the writers human for me.
I was like, oh, like all of the fan theories that I read online were better than what just happened.
Yeah.
Like these guys actually did a dumb thing.
It's just like this random 43 year old that's been getting lucky so far.
And then the other, like when it was over, I was watching with Jill, who's like not a fan,
but like has watched this season and was, and she liked the episode.
Oh.
And she was like, she's like, wow.
And then she turned to me and I was like, just like, I was a shell.
I was like, I don't know if I liked it.
Like I didn't even know if I liked it because I like, I didn't, and I didn't have the courage to say it yet.
If everyone loved it or if everyone hated it, does that swing people on the fence?
I really had to read.
So like after it was over, I was like, I don't think I liked it.
And then we were talking and I was like, maybe, no, maybe I did.
This was cool.
Like the dragon's going way up above into the clouds was cool.
Jorah, like that was awesome.
Like, no, maybe I did like, are you killed the kid?
Like that's good.
And then I was like in bed reading reviews and some of them were positive.
And I was like, it's just like New York Times had a glowing review.
And I was like, fuck, I guess it's good.
And then I started reading like, I think Slate had a negative one.
I was like, oh, no, this is what I didn't like about it.
And I agree with this.
Yeah.
Then maybe the Verge.
I don't know.
I was like, then I was like looking for negative reviews just to see people who could articulate
better than I could.
That's kind of how I felt about us.
Did you see the movie Us, the Jordan Peele movie?
No.
It was like an awesome looking thing.
And then you're like, wait a minute, that part didn't make sense.
And then everyone's like, wait, how did that work?
I'm like, yeah, how did that work?
That's true.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a riskier, though, because you're like in the comedy community.
So for me to say that Game of Thrones sucked, I don't really feel any risk here.
Like what's going to happen?
Well, Us isn't a comedy either.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
But Jordan Peele wrote it.
Yeah.
He wrote it.
He directed it really well.
Yeah.
That part was good.
Mr. Peele, if I could audition for you.
Don't get me wrong.
I loved Get Out, another movie of his.
But yeah, I mean, a lot of people brought up the fact that like there's some stuff that
like, wait, if you think about it too long, the movie starts falling apart.
Whereas Get Out, if you think about it, the movie gets stronger.
Oh, that's cool.
Anyway, you should watch Us and let me know what you think.
I also just realized I want to write for the Game of Thrones spinoff.
There's a spinoff?
D&D, if you guys are listening, I really think I could help fix the problems.
Yeah, they're going to do like a, like in the same world, in Westeros show.
Huh.
Yeah.
The Creation of the Night King, the First Azora High, all of that stuff.
Oh, Jesus.
All right.
Fine.
I'll watch that, I guess.
Are you, you gave up on, you're not going to watch Game of Thrones.
No.
You're just going to watch the last season.
Yeah.
Or I don't even know if I'll watch any.
I just wonder, everyone's like, you got to watch Tonight.
Tonight's the big episode, longest battle.
It's a historic moment in television history.
So maybe it was built up too much too.
Yeah, that's definitely possible.
All right.
Let's take a break now.
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Wow.
That's correct.
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Oh, wow.
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Holy smokes.
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Oh, that's cool.
So you take a photo of anything, perhaps a baby, and then it goes to their digital photo frame.
Yeah.
This is actually how we told Jill's grandma she was pregnant.
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This was actually a really sweet moment for me and my wife.
And you're trying to make a joke of it.
I was just being goofy a little bit like, this is how I told my grandma she was pregnant.
Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Do you have any?
Oh, it's a lift to the fight.
Mom, I'm coming.
Gross.
No.
Okay.
I've been thinking about car washes.
Car washes I feel are underappreciated, undervalued.
Cars are on the mind.
Yeah.
Since your Audi question last week, I've been thinking about cars.
Got a car wash this week.
I'm like, this is great.
It makes my car feel almost brand new.
Costs like $12.
It takes like 25 minutes.
Are they cheap mostly in LA?
Yeah.
Anything car related is cheaper in LA because there are so many cars they can charge less.
It's weird.
Car washes, I grew up on the East Coast.
I grew up in Connecticut.
We had like one car wash in our neighborhood.
Is it because it rains all the time?
Or because it's snow?
You're not going to like get a car wash and then it's like, okay, there's a store.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's like either because it rains all the time, so your car is going
to get clean in the rain, or if it's just like, no, the weather is so shitty that it
just like, your car is going to be fucked all the time.
But yeah, LA is like everywhere you go, you see a car wash.
Yeah.
Between April and October, it's just dusty.
So you might as well get a car wash, makes your car feel cleaner.
It's kind of like my water pick idea for your car.
Oh, yeah.
Do you do the car wash where you sit in the car, or do you leave the car?
The deep cleanse is like, I'm going to give the car away and they're going to just have
at it for half an hour.
But if I'm like, if I don't have that much time, or if I'm not near one, I'll do the
drive-thru kind.
The drive-thru kind is more like a little boost to get me to the next car wash.
Right.
That's the rinse out your mouth with water.
But if you want the water pick, if you want the full bidet treatment.
Oh, yeah.
They'll take it.
And then you can sit and watch the conveyor belt like your newborn baby, like that's my
car.
Look, it's getting a little wax thing.
I like to be in the car when it goes to the thing because I'm nostalgic for it.
Oh, yeah.
Get more car washes.
Get more car washes.
Yeah.
Treat yourself.
Is NADPod sold out for Head Gum Live in Chicago?
I think it's weird.
There's like only balcony or only opera box seats left, and you can only buy the whole
entire opera box.
That's right.
There's a few groups of six that have to buy tickets to your NADPod show in Chicago.
So it is all sold out.
I mean, if somebody has five friends and wants to come.
Or if they've got, if they're business minded, they could buy all six and then sell four
at a profit.
That's cool.
Like scalp tickets to Head Gum Live.
Right.
Or just like put them online or Twitter, if somebody did that and tweeted at me, I would
help facilitate the sale.
Yeah.
For a small fee.
Of course.
Now you're becoming the middle man.
Yeah.
That's the gold in my tax.
Where's my tax?
I want the squeeze.
I want the juice.
I want the Vig.
Tickets still available for if I were you.
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But they're going fast.
I will say that much.
So grab them while you can.
All right.
This is finally the email, the 25-year-old Jewess who's in a bit of a pickle.
We'll call, once again, Danny.
That's a thing people do.
They call it Daenerys.
Danny, right?
Yeah.
It's just like a cute little nickname for the fucking queen.
Danny writes, I started a new job and became pretty friendly and flirty with some of my
coworkers.
I went to a restaurant and the two cooks have both been flirting with me.
They're both really cute in their own ways and the attention is making me dizzy.
I don't consider myself particularly attractive, so getting compliments feels really special.
It was my birthday last week and I invited them both to my party.
Only one of them came.
He ended up staying over and we fucked around.
We even laughed about how he had called dibs on me and talked about me with the other cook.
He's great in bed and he had, and we had a lot of fun.
An hour or so after he kissed me goodbye and left my apartment, I get a Facebook message
from the other one, his best friend, asking me out on a date.
His spidey dick was tingling.
I guess he doesn't understand dibs.
Should I, and should anyone have the right to dibs me?
The second guy is really fucking hot and was really funny and kind of the one, sorry, really
funny and kind the one time we met.
Do I let them both work it out on their own?
Do I tell guy one that guy two is hitting on me?
Do I try to convince them to have a threesome or date me as a thruple?
I feel silly about moving fast with guy one before I saw what guy two had to offer.
But does it mean, does it need to be first come, first serve?
I both hate and love that I'm being treated like a trophy, not unlike your golden mic trophy.
As I mentioned, don't disrespect that, as I mentioned, I'm not used to this attention
so I'm worried I'll make bad choices because I'm so excited.
It's fun and dangerous for now but I know it's going to make work super awkward soon
and I don't want to ruin a friendship.
I'm polyamorous and have been in couples before and have been with couples before.
Are best bros kind of like a couple?
Can I make them choose or do I have to be responsible?
Any help you can have would be greatly appreciated.
And then it said, see you at your second cousin's bat mitzvah because I went to camp with her
older brother.
Are you going to a second cousin's bat mitzvah?
When is this question dated because Micah might have gone further back?
No, this is just two days ago.
Oh, yeah.
I don't have a second cousin's bat mitzvah.
Maybe she's just being cheeky in a dany way.
Maybe she's just like a Jew thing, yeah.
All right.
Well, first of all, congrats.
She fooled around with one guy and then the other guy slid into her FBMs.
Doesn't this always happen?
There's like two people and you're like, two people will come into your life and you'll
be like, oh, they're both cute.
And then you go for the one that's like the easiest, like the nearest by.
And then you're like, oh, shit, but the one that's hotter actually liked me.
That's right.
Does she owe it to either of them to tell them about the other?
Definitely not.
They should be talking if they're best buds.
I mean, they probably already know.
So it's like, I asked that girl out and then he's like, oh, I actually fooled around with
her.
Yeah.
Like I would imagine that this guy, the one who Facebook messaged you, finding out that
his friend fucked you would only make him like.
I don't know if they had sex.
Oh, right.
Okay.
But they fucked around.
I mean, if you didn't have sex, then hell, yeah, this is like super on, you know, with
either one of them.
With either one of them.
So she gets, she can actually move from guy one to guy two.
Definitely.
So she's like, yeah, I'll go on a date with you.
But does she want to just, it doesn't sound like she wants to like just fully pivot to
guy one.
She kind of, she's enjoying this time of being sought after by both of them.
That's right.
So, I mean, I would just enjoy that.
I don't think you have to make any decisions, but you definitely don't have to worry about
what decisions they're making.
You'll never be able to know.
Can she Facebook message this guy and be like, yeah, I'll go out with you?
Yeah, definitely.
Without the whole, I should let you know that I've been hanging out with guy one.
No.
I don't have to say that.
So just a straight up, yeah.
Been hanging out.
They hung out yesterday.
You know, we don't even know what this guy's intentions are.
Well, he wants to take her out.
Guy two does.
Yeah.
So maybe, I mean, I would definitely just go out and then if it comes up, if it doesn't,
if, I mean, this is going to get weird at work, obviously, naturally, let's put that
out there.
It's going to get weird at work.
But it's a restaurant, you know, everybody's fucking everybody a restaurant.
It's an in and out.
Oh, the bar back spot in the owner, the bartender's fucking the bar and I'm, I'm at the corner
holding a toaster ovens outlet.
Drink it off.
I really am.
I'm holding an outlet.
I'm Jango in the kitchen.
I'm having a Harvey wall banger.
What's that?
It's a drink.
It's a sex move.
What's the sex move of it?
You fuck a wall?
God.
I'm a horny bartender and I fucked a wall.
Oh, call me out on it.
Why don't you?
Yes, I fucked a wall.
So she don't think she owes this guy any explanation.
No.
Which, which is the one that called dibs?
The first guy, the one that she hooked up with.
The one that she hooked up with?
Yeah.
The one that she hooked up with called dibs.
Unfortunately, sweetheart, that's game over.
What?
You've been called dibs upon.
What's wrong in your mouth?
Oh, it's, it's sort of stuck.
Yeah.
Yeah, my, my lower jaw.
You're chewing on a hammer or something.
Uh-huh.
It's jaw, it's ham, and I'm smoking a cigar and sniffing a brandy.
It's a champ cigar.
It's a champ cigar.
Uh, well, shuck, sister, you've been called dibs upon.
You've been dibbed.
You've been thus dibbed.
Oh, you missed the spittoon.
I'm the mayor of Chicago in 1904.
Yeah.
Name?
Chauncey.
Harvey Wohlbanger, if you can believe it.
Very good.
That would, that's almost golden mic worthy if you didn't, uh, if you didn't forfeit, forfeit
the mic earlier in the episode.
I don't think so.
I want you to know that.
The Harvey Wohlbanger callback, that's, that's the golden mic that never was.
You don't think I've ever made a joke like that on the show before?
I think you have, but I think maybe it's something I had done or said.
Yeah.
Before was better.
Got it.
And then do you think I have, there's been some times where I made the best joke, uh,
but I had been DQ'd beforehand.
This is the first ever DQ.
I don't want you to, I don't want you to think that like you've DQ'd before and that's
the only reason why I have one.
This is the first ever golden mic by forfeit and there will be an asterisk on it forever,
which pains me to say, but, but it helps that I won.
There's an asterisk on the award you're giving yourself with a trophy you're giving yourself,
but what?
Let's hear it.
I was just going to say, but I, but I did win the second golden mic this episode.
And that was, so that's, what was the second one for?
Look, it's not important.
I don't want to, I don't want to relitigate every single golden mic.
We're not, we're not going to do that.
That's not what the golden mic's about.
Why did I get DQ'd for this one?
Cause all I, all I remember doing is reading, you said you didn't care about it.
No, you said, I said P.S.
Good job on Jake.
When the golden mic last week, and then you're like, I hope you're, you're not too obsessed
with it.
And I said, no, not too obsessed with it.
And then you DQ'd me for not caring.
It was three strikes because you were obsessed.
No.
Then you said I made it up.
No way.
And then you said you didn't care.
So that's three strikes and you're out.
That's it.
You're out.
And I feel like I just don't want to get too far into the, into the weeds with this thing
because it's a lot of like peeking under the hood, seeing how the sausage is made.
I'll just tune in to hear the show.
Yes.
So let's just try to have fun.
I am trying to have fun, but you're sitting here across from me.
You got the sunglasses on.
You're holding a trophy.
You're holding a small little mic.
It's a small, it's a small trophy.
It's a fucking.
Don't make me take it.
Don't make me take you out of the running for next week.
Oh my God.
I can already be eliminated for next week.
I've never done it before.
No, you haven't.
I'm not going to do it.
Thank you.
I wouldn't do that.
Fucking Christ.
What?
No, just saying.
Take me.
Yeah.
Don't take me out for next week.
Jesus.
I'm trying to find one last question before I have to get out of here.
Yeah.
Well, let's try to have fun because I feel that really, you know, we're bringing the
energy down.
You make it all about the golden mic.
You're pissed.
You're sad.
You're mad at yourself.
I imagine.
But I think you're a really cool co-host.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you.
I think you're super funny.
The Harvey Wall banger shit was awesome.
That was a really good callback.
Thank you.
I need to hear that.
I wish I hadn't been de-queued earlier in the episode for reading the Q&A.
Let's not make it about the de-queued thing.
I'm trying to just move forward.
Okay.
You're just like back pedaling and backtracking.
Can I get a smile, Eddie?
Can I see a smile?
Can I see teeth?
Good.
All right.
That was a nice smile.
I've had a little laugh.
That wasn't a laugh.
I need a guffaw from you.
Ha.
Ha.
There we go.
Was that so hard?
I wish I didn't win a turdy.
I wish I didn't win a turdy.
I wish I didn't win a turdy.
I wish I didn't win a turdy.
I wish I didn't win a turdy.
Ha.
I wish I didn't win a turdy.
Ha.
That would make...
So do I.
How about you still wouldn't golden mic?
So do I.
You still wouldn't the golden mic.
I went two golden mics this episode.
You went two turdies.
Get rid of one of my turdies for making the Harvey wall paying a check.
I showed you the teeth.
I just gave you the smile.
Give me one turdy to your two golden mics.
You're still way ahead.
You net out up three trophies.
I'll tell you what.
I'm going to...
I'll take away your turdy.
Thank you.
And I'm going to give you another turdy for obsessing over it, okay?
You've derailed the show into an obsessive quest for a golden mic, which is an award
you have to earn.
You don't just get it.
I know where you made up.
You don't just...
They don't just hand it out.
Got it.
And the turdy, then you're obsessed with the turdy, which is frankly, that's an award
you really shouldn't ever think about, but you can't let go of it.
I've eliminated your turdy for the Harvey wall paying your joke.
Thank you.
Which by the way, I set up almost a golden mic worthy alley-oop there.
I'm not saying anything because I know you're wanting to catch me in some sort of mistake.
So you get the turdy for obsessing over the turdy.
So that is three turdies, one was eliminated for an amazing joke.
Two turdies, then.
Two turdies on the day on the app.
And I have two golden mics, one which will forever have an asterisk, and that's on you.
So honestly, that asterisk should be out of yours turdy, is all I was saying.
What?
You're moving the asterisk over.
I don't think I need to have an asterisk on a golden mic.
I've had an unprecedented run.
You said you were having an asterisk on one of the golden mics that it killed you, but
it needed to be there, and then you gave yourself another golden mic.
I also just realized you missed up my golden mic count because you said it was 380, because
we had done 381 episodes, and Ben had won one, but I won two the episode before.
You said 380, so it actually is 381, and now the count is up to 383, even though we've
only done 382 episodes.
One with an asterisk.
Your turdy has the asterisk, and now we're getting so bogged down with these details
that I feel like it's just taking over.
We're not going to give you any more.
Let's move on.
No more turdies.
No more turdies.
No more golden mics.
No more, whatever.
No more turdies.
No more talk about it.
That's what we're getting rid of.
Let's try to have a positive attitude.
You're going to get another smile.
Can I see a smile?
Nice.
Good.
We're talking about uncles earlier.
This guy has a question about his uncle.
Why don't we call him John, named after your uncle?
Yes.
Hello, Jake and Amir.
Jake, congrats on yet another golden mic award.
Nice.
Wow, it's been a joy to watch your streak grow.
Thank you so much.
I'm humbled.
I'm humbled about this shit.
All right.
Go on.
Anyway, I had an odd problem.
Over the past couple of years, my uncle has been more and more active on social media.
He sends me messages occasionally to see how I'm doing and I don't mind it at all.
We live far away from each other and he's a nice guy.
We talk a bit and catch up.
The problem is over the past few weeks, he's been sending me DMs of pictures of motorcycles on Instagram.
I don't have an interest in motorcycles.
I've never ridden one and I don't know how much these things cost.
The first time he sent me a picture like that, I thought it was an accident, so I didn't say anything.
But he keeps sending them to me.
It's not like his account has been hacked either.
He sends me different pictures each time.
I'm starting to wonder if I'm being rude by not replying to his motorcycle DMs.
Should I just say something like, wow, that's cool?
Or do you think that would open a Pandora's toolbox and lead to him flooding my DMs with even more pictures of motorcycles?
Thanks in advance, keep up the great work.
Big fan of buckets and NADPOD as well.
All right.
Well, you don't have to ghost your uncle, right?
Don't ghost your uncle.
A rule of thumb and a rule of mum, mum's brother, that is.
Damn, that's almost turdy-worthy.
Both turdies hadn't been given out.
That was a total cheeseball joke, man.
Why don't you get a fucking turdy?
You got two golden mics and a turdy.
You have never got a turdy.
Well, there's already two turdies for this episode, one of which has an asterisk because it came at the expense of forfeiting a golden mic.
All right, anyway, a good rule of mum.
Nice.
I don't think you should ignore the messages.
Wow, that's cool.
Your instinct there is perfect.
You don't have to do much, but just make him feel like he's not sending the motorcycles into the void.
Yeah, but maybe he can reply to every other one, so it doesn't encourage him.
Yeah, totally.
I don't think you have to reply to every single one.
But you also, I feel like you're in a weird position now where if you see your uncle in person, you almost, like, you'll have it hanging over your head.
Like, you talk shows up with a motorcycle.
You kind of have to acknowledge that this has been happening.
Yeah, acknowledge the motorcycle, but it can't be that annoying if it's being sent to your DMs.
He's not calling you.
He's not taking your time.
Right.
He's DMing.
DMing, you just write back thumbs up emoji.
Vroom, vroom.
Way to go, uncle.
Nice.
Yeah, that's an easy one.
That's a quick one.
That's a quick one.
All right.
Thank you guys for writing in.
Thank you for sending your theme song submissions.
Opening one was Don Keanean, of course.
Don Keanean.
This closing one is written by Jake.
Oh, me?
A different Jake.
Let me look up his last name.
Jake Song.
Jake Ayala.
Oh.
A trap beat.
If you can shout out, please do it for Lucia Gan, the Canadian.
So between Lucia Gan and Don Keanean, we got enough alliteration and rhymes to last us for a while.
But we do need more theme songs.
We need more questions.
Send them all to us.
Always.
If I were you show at gmail.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
Again, tickets for our show in Chicago, headgum.com, slash live.
Congrats to Jake for winning two awards, and I also won two awards today.
I guess my awards were bad.
That's right.
Gold.
Gold of Mike's two turdies.
Nice.
One with an asterisk.
What's the point of putting an asterisk on a turdy?
Oh, because it was extra turd-worthy.
Just...
Fine.
We'll be back next week.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
Thank you.
You're a turd, by the way.
Fuck you, man.
It's the pinch and the mirror.
And they're both very clear that they will be right here for whatever is near.
So if I were you, I'd call two Jews.
I'd ask them for help, whatever you do.
If I were you, two Jews.
Todah, to you.
That was a headgum podcast.