Upstream - S2E20: Return of the Man from UNCLE: The Fifteen Years Later Affair
Episode Date: March 16, 2023It's fifteen years after the events of the previous film. Napoleon Solo has developed a James Bond inferiority complex (and 500 liver spots) and is playing mid-stakes poker games at 2pm on a weekday. ...Ilya Kuryakin looks absolutely identical and has opened up a fashion brand catering for stacked 10/10 transgender baddies. The last of the old-school Gay-coded villains laments the modern age. ------ Consider supporting us on our reasonably-priced patreon! https://www.patreon.com/killjamesbond ------ *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ Kill James Bond is hosted by Alice Caldwell-Kelly, Abigail Thorn, and Devon. You can find us at https://killjamesbond.com and https://twitter.com/killjamesbond
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I'm your new uncle.
Hello and welcome to another episode of Kill James Bond.
I am Alice Caldwell-Kelly.
I am joined, as always, by my friends Abigail Thorne and Devin.
Hey! How we doing?
I just want to interrupt immediately and say
on the
Zencaster just now,
Abby was rearranging her camera
and I got a perfect view of what it must
be like to be throttled to death by Abigail
Thorne.
A little creeps for the viewers.
Some people would pay good money
for that. Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, I'm sure they would.
That's the highest Patreon tier, listeners.
Yeah, you come to their house and you, like, throttle them to death.
Perfect.
We're so nearly done with The Man From U.N.C.L.E.
This is our last one from, like, the OG Man From U.N.C.L.E.
It's sad.
I know, I know.
I got quite wistful about this.
We're watching the made-for-TV movie, and this is incredibly awkwardly titled,
Return of the Man From U.N.C.L.E.
The 15 Years Later Affair.
CBS got everybody back apart from Mr. Waverly, because when he said at the end of one of
the movies, oh, I guess I'll die soon, he was right
and he died in between this being made
and the last one that we saw
The Seven Wonders, whatever it was
15 years is a long window to die in
Hell, 15 years from now I might be dead
who knows
I thought you were convinced that you were
going to go out like Hobgadling and never experience death
It's 50-50
I'm either going to live forever or burn out by age 35 i mean i think when you think about it dying is 50 50 and that
you you die or you don't those are sort of fairly definite states okay i don't think i don't think
the lone and level sands will ever stretch away oh my this statue gonna be there forever baby yeah
it's not just gonna be two trunkless legs you know this trunk
very securely attached to the legs these legs are like my pride and joy so fair enough if the
statue maybe the statue of me was just my legs and then like i just stopped there i was like i'm done
yeah i didn't think about that it's just like leg yeah face on the ground just so that people
could see what i looked like and then just look at the legs. In your sort of like sneer of cold command. Yeah, absolutely.
My famous sneer of cold command.
Yeah, yeah, I read it well.
We're such fucking like private school fucking nerds.
I know, we are twats.
No.
No, I meant...
Two thirds of us are such like fucking posh culture twats.
I mean, I just...
I'm marinated in it, that's the thing.
We return to it.
We are our civiades.
The man from Uncle is our eupolis.
And we're the worst.
But this movie starts with like a...
It's like a sort of...
No, don't tell me about it.
Fucking tea, fuck you.
I never want to be told about a classical reference
during a podcast this is a problem every time
I'm on one with Milo as well because he keeps
making them and I go I don't get it
and he tries to tell me about them and I'm like no no no
we already told you but you bathed in the waters of Lethe
someone's going to tell me the Euclid thing is like
not a correct pull and then I'm going to
fucking kill myself
don't worry Alice Uday is heck on Hamart today! If anyone wants to start a DUMMA podcast with me, feel free to let me know.
Yeah, you can start Jock Zone.
This movie starts with like a ten minute credit sequence, in which we are introduced to every
single actor and character in it.
And this has a number of great pulls.
The first one of which is, looking exactly like Keir Starmer, Patrick McNee, from the
fucking Avengers.
Because, as we've said, Leo Carroll died, and this is his replacement.
This is your new uncle, Mr. Waverly.
Oh, no, not that Avengers, the other one. Oh. Yeah, the other other one. Right, right, Mr. Waverly. Oh, no, not that Avengers. The other one.
Oh.
Yeah, the other, other one.
Right, right, right.
Old-ass Patrick McNeil in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
I mean, he'll probably be in it at some point, but yeah.
The 60s Avengers.
The one with the guy with the umbrella and the sexy woman in the catsuit.
Yeah, exactly.
We've also got our boy, George Lazenby, as JB.
Yeah, we do be having a George Lazenby in this episode.
It's true.
Going back for more sort of like old Lazenby.
Because this is 1993.
So when I saw him, I was like, he looks weird.
Why doesn't he look like George Lazenby?
And then I realized, oh, he's not jacked anymore.
In Man From Hong Kong, when he's in his jacked mustache era he looks great and now i'm just like what the fuck happened like
oh and there's there's one more pull that i want to make here which is anthony zerber is playing
the bad guy in this and if you don't know who that is let me explain to you with a drop i don't like
finger me that guy milton crest from license to kill
yeah he's back in this movie back huh yeah so we begin with a shot of an even tackier version of
the specter ring uh this is like um like a sort of emerald ring with a lightning bolt sort of like
applied to it looks like absolute shit yeah well so why did thrush have this as their logo when as we see later on they also have a thrush as their logo brand confusion
yeah a lot of a lot of companies didn't adapt to the 1980s well as we're about to find out thrush
is one of them um but these are agents of thrush listening in to the conversation the radio
conversation going on between like a b-52 bomber and i guess an airfield
and the vibe off of this conversation is make sure you keep it gentle i'll do that it's sensuous
you know you'll win anytime over yeah yeah do you think that they ever explored each other's
bodies they don't get the time every single piloting pair has always explored each other's bodies.
That's why they call it the cockpit. That's right.
At least if you remember to call it the cockpit.
That's why they call it the pilot cabinet.
It's being
classic again.
Pilots
washing each other's hair, polishing
each other's armor. They don't get a chance
because this sort of
control panel being operated
by a guy in a powder blue turtleneck is manipulated to, like, crash their aircraft remotely.
And Mr. Powder Blue Turtleneck goes, and there you go, Thrush is now a nuclear power.
Cool line.
Has nuclear weapons now.
It is cool.
I've already seen this plot two times on this podcast yeah at which point we cut to we cut to
sort of the newer meaner uncle interviewing a guy in prison they're doing sort of like hannibal
before before that movie came out i love kowalski i love i love the actor playing kowalski
what if instead of like urbane, charming, sophisticated guys,
we had like New York City cops were Uncle Now?
Yeah.
I like this as a choice.
I'm not, the performance is like just slightly out of beat with every other actor in it.
Cause he's like just slightly too like, yeah.
But I feel like this actor's having fun and like, you know,
doing cool shit.
He's making choices.
This guy Kowalski, who's sort of like, in order to demonstrate that he's the new mean uncle,
he's interviewing this like old thrush mastermind trying to get more information out of him like years later.
And this is Justin Severin, who is, you know, fucking Anthony Zerba from License to Kill.
And Severin's whole thing is like, man, they're really not sending their best
anymore. You know, back in the day, he used to be able to talk about atrocious mixed drinks with
these guys, but instead they're just sending morons now, and no one's even gay anymore,
and it really sort of annoys me. And yeah, so he sort of has this very urbane way of speaking which really
irritates kowalski he says he says he knows nothing about thrush he's like no don't know
anything about it never heard of it well he said he said he says oh you mean the um like the small
passerine bird in the genus tortoise yeah i just cool um it's such a labored bit as well, man.
It's just like, oh, you need to flush the pipe.
He says it like, two times.
Turdus.
Genus Turdidae.
Turdus.
And goes outside, because Corsica's like, ah, we're not getting anything out of him, whatever.
Goes outside, and a helicopter shows up.
And we get, do you remember how On Her Majesty's Secret Service had, like, woman noises?
Yes.
This movie sort of has prisoner noises, in that they've just, like, dubbed over,
like, 50 guys all going, oh, hey, it's a helicopter, hey, we should escape on that, at once.
Right?
And it sort of, like, all melts together into, like, sort of, like, Prison Escape ASMR.
It's very weird.
Your prisoner GF tucks you in ASMR forehead kisses.
Again, I think people would pay good money.
Yes, they would.
But this is kind of sick that Severin like grabs onto the ski of the helicopter with one arm and with the other arm blows a kiss to Kowalski.
And I'm like, damn, cool.
or blows a kiss to Kowalski, and I'm like, damn, cool.
He's genuinely like a gay-coded villain in an era when we'd stopped gay-coding things,
who is pissed off about it.
That's his motivation, and I really like it.
I support him.
Yeah, you don't get the quality of agents anymore.
You just get this asshole.
You know who he reminds me of? He reminds me of he reminds me of the american
cop in the arnold schwarzenegger movie red heat uh which is sort of designed to be like uh the the
soviet cops american cops aren't so different after all but exactly the same sort of like type
it's a great movie perfect thesis statement for a movie. Absolutely, we have to watch that.
Delay Toto Solo and be Madre again.
We're going to fucking...
Fuck, not again.
We're going to scrub that episode.
We take it down, we do Red Heat again,
and we can watch Arnold Schwarzenegger
pour a bunch of cocaine out of a false artificial leg
and go, cocaine-um.
We will have to do Schwarzenegger season.
100%. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Arnie, come on the pod.
So meantime, we cut back to
UNCLEHQ NYC.
And I realized
something about this film, which is that like
by this point, the Bond franchise has become
like a massive global phenomenon. It's not like
in the 60s where like, yeah, like Doctor No's come
out and people like it. But like by this point point like bond has gone through like two or three actors right
this is the year of like two simultaneous bonds 1983 you could go and watch octopussy or you could
watch never say never again yeah so this film really like has a bit of a bond inferiority
complex whereas the old uncle movies were kind of like slightly wackier and like they were kind of
similar thing to bond but doing a bit of their own thing this it really really shows that they're
like trying to do bond because they've got a money penny we got to meet money penny because we're
introduced to new m your new uncle patrick mcneill who sort of is introduced to his office
by a woman who only ever does bits about her surname. And I love that so much for her.
Who are you?
Just think of me as your girl Friday.
This would be Janice Friday, your money penny.
And she will work a joke about her name being Friday
into every scene that she's in.
That's right.
They should have done five movies of this.
They should have fucking...
She's only in two scenes.
Even then, the jokes aren't that good. It's you know she should have had sex with someone and someone goes i
thought friday only comes once a week like you know there's just like so many thank god it's
friday yeah yeah yeah just like so many yeah like oh that's comedy baby you'll serve it must be
friday you're serving fish like you know it's yeah those three are just off the dome of the podcast
right we've written better shit than this, if we're not even professional.
Calling your secretary like this, kind of...
Stacked strands, Matty.
It's so funny to me.
Just like, oh, you're looking well, Miss Friday, you're serving cunts tonight?
It's like, what?!
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's fine. No, no, that's legal. That's legal. with that that's fine no no that's legal that's
legal yeah i actually can't get mad at you for doing the new james bond is gonna have a stacked
buddy 10 out of 10 uh that's true that is true but what but no that's just they're all gonna be
stacked buddies 10 out of 10 that's the they're gonna do a new one it's q they're gonna do another
one that's just bond i thought you meant they're gonna be trans i new one that's Q, they're going to do another one that's Chase Bond. I thought you meant they're going to be trans. I was just like, I'd better be fucking in that.
Yeah, I mean, you're one of the 10 out of 10 stacked baddies.
Good, good, fantastic.
So Patrick McNee, new uncle,
sort of talks to Kowalski about this and tells him,
oh, you know, the fucking B-52 got shot down.
By the way, this is a peak example of
we only had the budget to do Southern California.
It's very clearly that scene is happening in desert,
and then he goes, yeah, it happened 20 miles south of Anchorage,
in the desert they got there.
Don't worry about it, it's just fine.
And then we get the funniest line read in the whole movie.
This is Kowalski.
She wasn't armed, presumably.
No.
He was eaten at the time. He didn't realize he had a line to deliver yeah what is this choice no no no
didn't get another take do you like do another take it's fine
and this was 100% ADR'd as well
because everything in this fucking movie was
yeah of course he got into a booth
and he's like okay how am I going to read
this line
no
it just gets me every time I hear it
but yeah so the bomb
isn't armed and they're like there's only like four guys in the world
Who can possibly arm this
And Thrush don't have any of them
So we're pretty sure we're safe at least
Yeah
At which point we cut to
Thrush secret base number one
Hoover Dam
Which we are told is Hoover Dam in Libya
Hoover Dam brackets Libya
Yeah, we got a big shot that says libya and
i wrote oh unfortunately we don't spend that much time in libya no severin severin clearly had like
a bunch of color-coded henchmen jumpsuits just on deck ready to go for whenever he got out of
prison that's right he's like fully back in henchmen he's back on back in the saddle you know he's got his guys uh my
favorite detail here just cinematographically is he is reintroduced to his boy by means of a very
slow horizontally sliding door and he just has to sort of like not react until like the whole door
is open and he's fully in view. It's really strangely done.
Yeah.
Mr. Blue Turtleneck is there, too.
His name is Janus, or Janus.
We'll learn more about him later.
There's another guy, like, a guy called Alexi Kemp,
who was, like, working with him.
They also keep talking about The Courier,
which gave me very weird vibes, given that it's a Hoover Dam.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, basically, the vibe is that Thrush have got the gang back together like thrush disbanded years
ago but they're back they're doing it again um and then they're they're gonna ransom the world
doing like nuclear ransoming with this bomb they've stolen and they specifically want napoleon
solo to deliver the ransom they're like we want our boy back we're fucking sick of this it's been
15 years where's our fella?
And so now... $350 million or they detonate the nuke inside the United States.
Our fella is in Las Vegas wearing the roughliest shirt in the world.
It looks like someone has piped whipped cream onto it.
To the Caesars Palace Casino in the middle of the day.
He's doing so well.
Yeah, and
also, speaking of weird
line readings, in
what is another example of the Bond inferiority
complex, the guy across from him
at the table asks him his name, and he goes,
Solo.
Napoleon Solo.
I didn't edit that, because I really wanted to get, like, the sort of senior
moment happening there, the, like, solo.
Extremely long pause, Napoleon Solo.
Sort of, like, audibly turning page of script.
Good morning.
Napoleon Solo.
Sunday morning.
Kill Bond.
Now.
He's doing Bond shit.
He's playing poker against a Russian
man and
he's looking old as shit
Robert Vaughn looks
real bad he's got the like nose
that like heavy drinking gives you
and like he just looks old
but he's playing poker against a Russian man
who has a prima ballerina on his
arm well but he's playing poker against a Russian man who has a prima ballerina on his arm
no
well
I might have believed former prima ballerina
but prima
do you know what I mean
possibly a casting mistake
no
because like
prima ballerina is kind of done by the time he's 25
he's kind of like
he's meant to be like
the director of the Bolshoi
as well
yeah
and he's gambling
at Caesar's Palace
at two in the afternoon
against a sort of
washed up ex-spy
there are like
four KGB guys
with him
in fairness
in fairness
if this was Bond
this woman would have been
like 22
and Bond would have
had sex with her
and we would have had
to just accept that
but Napoleon later spoilers has sex with this woman and like it's kind of at least his age
appropriate um but yeah it saves them from having to do the sort of like you put your clothes on
and i'll buy you an ice cream sort of yeah yeah yeah later yeah could have been worse um so they
can't they can't reach, he's too busy gambling.
So then they try Kuriakin.
Yeah.
Kuriakin!
Kuriakin!
Oh boy.
He's living his best life.
Our boy David McCallum looking exactly the same.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, Robert Ford is haggard and Ilya just looks identical, like it could have been ten
minutes later of that.
Ilya has worn sun cream.
Oh yeah. Ten minutes later of that. Ilya has worn sun cream. Oh yeah.
Ten minutes later of that!
He has like, crow's feet, and that's it.
This is what moisturising every day gets you.
He is taking retinol, he is focused on his grind.
He's a starving cunt.
Professionally.
He works making dresses for transgender women. That's right. The reverse shot is the most clocked up, stacked, buckle fat removal ass looking woman I've ever seen.
She is taller than him by a foot and a half.
Big Ben is bonging.
Oh, she's so much taller than him.
Like, it's not even funny.
Uh-huh.
And he goes, he's like fitting a dress on
her the phone keeps ringing because uncle he's like ignore this no this needs to be down to like
sort of like immediately above pussy level she says you were turning this dress into a belt and
he's like yeah yeah it's gonna be fucking great she's like that's right is is elia in this film
meant to be gay i was was like, it's unclear.
He has this job.
And also it's always like
all the women in the film,
this happens multiple times.
All the women in the film
are just like,
oh yeah,
he's really cool.
We really love him.
There's like a woman later on
who's like hitting on him
and he's never,
he's never at any point
does he go down.
Yeah,
cool.
Nice.
But he's always just like
knee deep in the pussy,
but like always
he's like wearing as
well as and isn't bothered he's making dresses for the dolls as the other thing like xenia on
a top shops here um and he's he's he's liking it you know he's thriving he's not answering the
phone he's getting a big contract for halibye all the kind of tiktok zoomer trans girls are buying
their shit there he's he's made like a sweater sweater, but it, like, stops, like,
at your upper chest, so it's just, like, your arms,
and then your tits are out.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
So, we go back to Caesar's Palace.
What is that last week?
This alleged prima ballerina is...
She's trying to, like...
We're all getting them.
I'm getting Ilya to do my clothing for the Lost in Powers live shows.
So the Soviet guy that Solo is playing against sort of like browbeats him out of
the game, and Solo's like, okay, I'll just take my winnings and leave, right?
And this Prima ballerina goes, take me with you, like heavily implying,
to the west, because I want to defect. And the, like, KGB guy, like, fully, like, slaps her across
the face, which prompts Solo to slap him and steal a line from Elmer Gantring, and go like, um,
don't you know that hurts, right? Which is a good line. Um, I liked it better the first time.
And then this sort of, like, enrages Solo to the point that he's like...
Despite the fact that this is the 80s, and he worked for decades with a Soviet agent,
he becomes full sort of like, soldier of fortune anti-communist at this point, and he's like,
alright, comrade, let's do...
Zukovsky Casino rules.
We put down five cards...
One million, draw a card.
FUCK!
Yeah, exactly!
That's literally the game he sets up, is, right, you put down four cards, you give us,
like, one card each, face up!
It's like, 100%, just like, draw a card, see what's better.
Yeah.
And as in every movie about gambling, it's the two highest amounts of cards you could
possibly get.
It's like Royal Flush versus Stray Hand or some shit.
It's like, alright.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But before the cards are drawn, he gets...
In real-
Patrick McNee gets the idea.
He'll be like, uh, high card five?
And they're like, alright, well done.
You take the two million.
Go like, a pair, a pair of threes. So Patrick McNee gets the idea, hey, why don't we use, and I really like this idea,
why don't we use Channel D?
And Friday goes, oh, you mean that piece of shit that nobody's used for 15 years?
Yeah, we've been on Channel E for ages.
Yeah, exactly.
We're up to Channel F by now.
Nobody's been opening Channel D for a while, but he tries channel D. And we see that Solo
keeps his little channel D communicator pen on him, and it goes off in his pocket while
he's waiting for the thing.
He's like, uh, it's the battery in my pacemaker, because I'm old.
Yeah!
It's good!
It's quite sweet.
I think this is a really good little thing, actually.
I quite like it.
They call him up and he's like,
I've just kept it with me because it's been a while since my pen's spoken to me.
It's like, lucky, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. It's quite sweet.
And he's also like, I'm in trouble, boys. What I've done is I've bet,
like, $500,000 on a coin flip. Can you please help?
hundred thousand dollars on a coin flip can you please help and patrick mcneigh has to be like yeah okay we'll settle your fucking gambling debts if you come to new york he's like legitimately a
terrible gambler why would you do this to yourself but so he he draws the cards he goes back they
draw the cards and he wins of course he does yeah of course at which
point this prima ballerina is like okay great take me with you and he goes uh okay i'll figure
out a way to do that real quickly oh you mean now oh oh you you didn't want me to do sort of like a
laser thing this is a right now thing okay flips the fucking table at this guy it is remarkably
funny throughout this movie how out of shape Robert Vaughn is, and how
many stunts they make him do himself.
Almost like elbow abuse, yeah.
He does them, though!
Yeah, he has to do a thing where he like, elbows a guy in the chest, and then
like, moves his wrist up to punch him in the face, like something you would see in like,
The Raid, maybe?
He's trying to do like, he's trying to do...
He chucks a lot of combo moves on these guys.
Exactly.
And he does not get a combo out of it.
He knocks a guy over and punches him in the face 15 times.
Bang!
Long pause.
Just no, it just doesn't work.
It doesn't happen.
Still better than Roger Moore.
Oh yeah, Miles is better.
I do sort of want to see a deep fake of Robert Vaughan's face on the hallway fight scene
from the raid.
I think that would be funny.
Yeah, he was doing that kind of shit in his heyday.
He was.
Yeah, that's true.
So he and this ballerina escape.
They get in the car, and the Russians try and shoot at them, like, on the strip in Vegas.
And this precipitates the slowest car chase in the world.
They are going 30 miles an hour.
They are obeying all posted traffic laws.
It's, like, down sort of back streets in Vegas.
And one thing I do like, though, is this ballerina, Andrea, her name is, Andrea Markovich.
She calls Solo out on like
stealing all of his like suavest line she's like oh i recognize that from a movie which i quite
like because he's been dining out on that shit for like 15 years at this point but so they have
a car chase it's remarkably slow but then our boy george laby. Clearly in need of money to be in this movie.
Really sad to see, genuinely, just like a...
Yeah!
...oh, moment.
Why is James Bond driving around Las Vegas in a white tie in the middle of the
day?
A real like, oh, you had gambling debts, man, didn't you?
Yeah, yeah.
You ever think about that Gina Carano tweet that starts, I didn't fumble the
bag, right, in a quote all the time
yeah george layson b enters this movie like i didn't fumble the bag i just got very interested
in the man from uncle suddenly yeah exactly um and he's driving the Aston Martin GB5 with the gadgets, it's got the license plate JB.
That's right.
I'm not allowed to say the name, or use the theme song, but it's meant to be him.
You get like a non-copyright Bond theme, which is, I didn't pull it, but it's like,
oh my god, it's terrible.
It's like flight key change.
It intercedes with some gadgets.
He sprays...
Missiles, oil slick.
Question mark water?
Yeah.
At a car that makes it like...
Again, James Bond inferiority complex.
Because, like, Lazenby is literally introduced, like, recognizing Solo and being like,
oh, I've got to help out my boy or some shit.
And it's like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wrong. He's like, I think I have the the drop but i can't find it right now he's just like oh napoleo solo uncle's
finest and it's like always always good to help a colleague um yeah and then they really milk the
bond cameo too because having dispensed of the kJB guys, he like, waves at them, and you're like,
oh, okay, that's cool, they're acknowledging the thing. And then he waves at them again.
And Andrea like, nudges Solo, and is like, that license plate, it says JB. Almost like it could
say, this scene removed for legal reasons. She says, just like on Her Majesty's Secret Service, and I'm like,
hang on a minute.
Just like a non-trademarked form of words.
Was that a film, though?
Has she seen the film?
On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Is this a cannonball run situation?
He's not James Bond,
he's just a lunatic.
I have to warn you, I'm George Lazenby.
This is George Lazenby, in character, playing James Bond, just fucking up traffic
in his gadget car.
He stole that shit from the set.
He took that car home.
He's wanted.
Yeah, Pinewood Studios wants this car back.
They put like, real missiles in it, like...
It is a cannibal situation!
He just killed so many cops trying to stop him.
That's why Robert Vaughan doesn't nod back or say anything about it.
He's like, no, that man's a dangerous psychopath, we have to go now.
Just don't acknowledge him.
Don't look at him.
Just staring straight ahead like a bus driver trying to ignore someone on the side.
Like, do not look at that.
That's the man who made the man from Hongong kong man and and like his photos like yeah you can't you can't criticize
him or tell him he's not james bond or he will just use kung fu on you he'll do it it's better
to get hit by the gadget car honestly because he'll fuck you up he'll call you a racial slur
as he does it like it's like when um buzz aldrin punched that guy out for saying he didn't go to the moon
if you say to george lazenby that james bond is a character he beats you up
yeah yeah just think about what he did when to that stuntman when he was auditioning to play
bond like he told him it was a character and he broke's a dangerous psychopath.
So, with the help from dangerous psychopaths... That's why he had to do Universal Soldier.
He was trying to recoup his image to be peace-loving,
but it just doesn't take.
No, it doesn't work.
I didn't fumble the bag.
No, it's fine.
Genuinely, he had a quote when Universal Soldier came out
that's like, I'm bored of playing
Bond, peace is the message now, and that's the most I didn't fumble the bag thing I've
ever read, including the Gina Carano story.
George Leslie, after getting off stage at the Sydney Opera House.
Alright, I didn't fumble the bag.
So they go to New York, and Solo puts this woman up in his penthouse suite that he just
has.
And he goes, I gotta go see my uncle.
And she's like, yeah, okay.
And then, after he leaves, we get the next level, the best, picks up the phone.
He's on his way right now.
We've ever seen.
Yeah, really good. She's betraying him! She betrays
him to Thrush! Oh, I fucking love this scene!
This scene! We've watched how many of these fucking movies?
Sounds really good. 5,000? 8,000? This is so good.
5,000 hours of this. We've seen how Solo goes to work he goes to like yeah first of all taylor shop
10 a.m drunk yeah he goes to the fucking taylor he goes in through the back and he tries to do it
but it's it's different just a normal taylor taylor and the taylor's like what the fuck are you doing
but nobody your uncle doesn't live here it's just a shop he's like i don you, dude. Your uncle doesn't live here. It's just a shop. I don't do business in the back of my shop.
What?
And then Solo says,
Well, I do all my business in the back.
Do you know what I mean?
After they've...
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah, brother?
This guy's so New York as well.
He's like, ah, you're crazy.
There's nothing back there.
But then after he kicks him out of the shop, on the way out
the guy says, listen, if you ever
get lonely and you want to tap the walls looking
for your uncle, come on by.
I also pulled that.
Yeah, I think he's making fun of him.
It kind of works. No, I think
this is before Grindr existed.
This was just how you had to be gay
in New York in the 80s. I do all my business in the back, yeah. I'm pretty sure people have managed you had to be gay, like New York in the 80s.
I do all my business in the back, yeah.
I'm pretty sure people have managed to find ways to be gay in New York in the 80s.
No, no, it had to be through tailor shops.
Yeah, it was, yeah, no.
We didn't have an app for it, so it was impossible.
Mm, okay.
I'm sort of like doing a moon landing thing, where I'm like, all queer history
is faked.
It's like, uh...
On a soundstage, by Stanley Kubrick!
Stanley Kubrick invented gay sex on a soundstage in California, and in real life
everyone was meeting up in tailor shops to knock the walls.
They should have given him the fucking Nobel Prize for that.
He invented gay sex?
That shit rocks!
Nice work, man!
Yeah, we are over there on grass sheets.
I've always felt that I was a less talented imitator of Stanley Kubrick sometimes.
Anyway, so he leaves, and a cab pulls up, and it's like, oh, you're probably looking
for Uncle.
That's this other location now instead, and he just drives there.
Yeah.
He meets Friday, he gets his old security Dorito, which is quite cute.
He does.
They've changed the design of the security Doritos now.
I know. They have.
They give him his old one now.
Yeah, that's nice. The way this scene is blocked out is really funny. He goes
into Keir Starmer's office, and they're standing really close to each other, and for a long
time they're just sort of completely wordless.
It's slightly too small an office to have this kind of scene in it.
It's just so...
It's like, curiously intimate.
And Friday does some more name-based bits, she's like, oh, well the only man who ever
had office work done for him Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Cause that's my name, my name is Friday.
And someone else is like, what?
What do you mean by that?
Explain your oblique Robinson Crusoe reference to me right now.
You're not allowed to do that
in Uncle. They've got a clause against having to explain
jokes.
I have a very sad announcement here. This is sort of
an in memoriam here.
Our beloved,
one of our favourite features of the uncle franchise
i sort of mentioned is that he's no longer with us and i'm speaking here of course about our dear
friend loud projector because they've invented quiet projects what's the fucking point they just
start up the projector and it doesn't even like sound like a laptop when you're playing a game with too many graphics on it.
It just sounds normal.
Sucks.
But Keir Starmer goes, okay, here's the deal.
They've stolen this bomb.
The guy they were gonna get to arm it has died.
The other guy they were gonna get to arm it, we've got him.
The other other guy, we've got him too.
That leaves one guy.
Introducing, and he hits the slide button, the most busted twink in the world.
Oh, come on!
This motherfucker looks like a sex doll of Captain Scarlet.
He like...
I thought he does!
No, it's fucked to pieces.
Gary Anderson puppet twink.
This is Simon Williams as Nigel Pennington Smythe.
He's like meant to be an English actor.
For the RSC, no less.
Yeah.
As we see, he's in Othello, he's playing Iago.
Yeah, wears a little like neckerchief, as, you know, to show you that he's, you know,
meant to be sexy, young.
Yeah, but he just doesn't...
He does not achieve either of those. Again, he looks like he
was walked here on strings
off of the set of Thunderbirds.
Yeah, he's got that Thunderbirds
shaped head. Not to do that puppet
phrenology, but...
Yeah.
Looking at Thunderbirds. Oh, this one's got a
fucking Slavic brain.
Doing mesh of head shit. Doing mesh of head shit on the conference. oh this one's got a fucking slavic brain doing doing doing
doing
we're gonna have to do some
we're gonna have to do some
jerry anderson stuff at some point
he's really pulling your strings
so yeah
this guy Nigel Penetrius Mav he's an actor
but his father designed
the nuclear bomb and Nigel hasnington-Smith, he's an actor, but his father designed the nuclear bomb.
And Nigel has a photographic memory
and helped his father with the blueprints.
So he might actually know in the back of his brain
how to activate the bomb.
And Thrush may be after him.
Yeah.
So at this point, Solo goes,
I can't do this alone.
I need my boy.
Where's my fucking boy at? Well, you can't have him. alone i need my boy where's my fucking boy yeah well you
can't have him he resigned because of backstory because of backstory oh no so where's where's he
working now uh he's he he runs that dress shop for transsexuals yeah so when i say backstory it's
because they don't really specify what it is at this stage they're like uh so elia resigned from
uncle and and so i was like that doesn't
sound like him um they go oh there was some question of like a betrayal or a mission that
went wrong a girl died uh we don't really know what to do with it but um janice the the guy we
saw down in the plane at the start in the turtleneck he was elia's partner after solo left
and so like he was involved in that operation, like maybe
he was actually working for Thrush, we don't know.
And he gives, like,
give Solo a photo of
it's not a glossy headshot
this time either.
Really losing out on a lot of the
characteristic stuff here.
Gives him a photo of Janus.
And so, Solo
goes to this dress shop.
There's a long, long bit with one.
Solo walks straight through the show floor,
straight into the back,
into the women's changing room,
and is like,
I'm looking for Ilya.
Where's my boy?
Nobody reacts to what he's doing in here.
They're doing the opposite.
Women keep taking their fucking tits out. Again, transsexual coded, this woman who is, again, highly sort of like
buckle fat removal looking, keeps taking her top off in front of him. Like, three different times,
and every time he has to like, cover his eyes. And she's like, oh yeah, Illya's like,
pitching for like, airline uniform designs at the Russian cafe.
We get a joke on pitching, yeah.
And Solo's just covering his eyes, because she's got a massive cock.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
I'm like, whoa!
He's like, he was going like...
He's not a chaser!
I'll say that for Napoleon Solo, he is not a chaser, I'll say that for Napoleon Solo.
He is not a chaser, to the best of my knowledge.
So, goes to the Russian cafe.
Not after that TV episode we saw.
He's certainly not.
We'll talk about that another time.
Yeah, yeah.
But so,
Kuryakin is trying to pitch this woman
on his uniform designs.
She wants the Kuryakin dick so badly she's not listening to a word that he's saying.
She is like, so hard, she can't think straight, I think I have Covid.
She's like, wuah.
And Kuryakin, Ilya's kind of trying to get out of this, because again, he might
be gay.
We don't actually say that, but he might just be gay.
He seems uncomfortable about this.
Yeah.
And just in time, he is rescued by seeing Solo come along with him.
This is a perfect shot to me, right?
Because Ilya sees Solo moving through the club,
and he's distracted for a moment, and he looks back to the lassies with,
and he's really wistfully like,
I'm sorry, I've just seen an old old friend we used to work together a lifetime ago those days are over now and then solo immediately starts getting the shit kicked out of him and elia's like oh hold on
sorry wait a minute and just like gets up and immediately sprints down between the aisle and
then fully like jump tackles a guy it's so good it's just like a
beautiful like wistful moment from a different movie just happens to be in there and it's like
oh i see okay sorry i see what's happening it has a few moments it has a few moments it's good it's
really nice yeah they get in a fight it's great you know like uh david mccallum can still like do
stage combat, which
Robert Vaughn can't.
He's doing the Pentax-Salat combos Robert Vaughn is doing.
Yeah, exactly. He kills a guy with a door.
It's horrific.
He throws a guy into a concrete balcony.
I'm not really the same person I was after
seeing that.
It really comes out of nowhere as well. It's just absolutely brutal.
Yeah, surprising.
These goons are the KGB, by the way.
We learned this in a terrible piece of ADR from Robert Vaughn. Yeah, yeah. Surprising. These goons are the KGB, by the way. We learned this in a terrible piece of ADR
from Robert Vaughn.
Yeah.
So at this point, they
go for a walk and
I love this scene. This scene is
so good. It's really good, but the thing that jars
it for me is how much better an actor
David McCallum is because he's carrying
this scene for me. Yeah.
He's also, so David McCallum was a good actor carrying this scene for me yeah he's also like so David McCallum
was a good actor in the original Man From Uggle
but he's like gotten better in the 15
years since and he's so good in this scene
yeah he's like
maybe because they do finally give him something to do
I don't want to do it
and Solo
buys him a hot dog which is a fun sort of like
slumming it sort of thing he buys himself a hot dog
actually yeah he buys one hot dog and just eats it.
One dog with ketchup and onions.
I assume you don't want this.
So I'm gonna eat it in front of you.
And then he goes, well, what about the world?
And Ilya has this great line, he's like, don't throw the world at me.
Like how many times have we saved it?
And Solo has to convince Nino.
Making dresses for the dolls.
I'm doing important work right now.
This time it's more important
than your transsexual
sluts that you make dresses for.
He's like, nothing is more important
than my transsexual
sluts.
Exactly. But then he shows him
the photo of Janice and he Ilya punches him in the face!
Yeah, I love this!
Because Solo's kind of doing the smug lying thing where he's like,
oh, is this the guy who betrayed you? And Ilya's like, you know damn well it is.
And you were just like, you fucking set me up with all this bullshit
before you actually showed it to me. Fine, I'll come back to fucking Uncle. It's really good.
It's well played. He gets his old Dorito
back. He does, he does.
He has a fun joke about it. He says, I'm all out of
exploding buttons. There's a
baffling line when they come into the
new Uncle, which by the way is much less
it looks like a sort of 70s
office, but he says,
What happened to the beautiful girls who used
to work for Uncle? They're in the Uncle Home.
Which, first of all...
Huh?
Second of all...
Third of all, I don't even think Ilya's gay!
I think he might just be asexual.
Like, he's sort of like, equally repulsed by men and women.
He's like, ugh, men.
It's really bad ADR as well, but...
Also, what is the uncle home?
Well, that's where they put all the
stacked town out of ten baddies we saw
in the original movies, who were walking around
in pencil skirts. That's right, they're literally stacked now.
They're in quite a storage cabinet now.
Yeah.
It's curious. I'll be back in a minute.
I'm sending you the address.
What did
happen to these?
Did they think it was too sexist for 1983?
Did they think it was, like, perversely not sexist enough?
Gender.
Gender, I'm afraid.
They've all transitioned.
None of those women ever had...
Yeah, well, none of those women ever had lines.
That'd be a great reveal, wasn't it?
If they were all actually the same people, but they just all transitioned.
They all transitioned.
They were never explicitly...
Irreversible damage has been done to the media
lesbians have been erased within the last you should have seen kowalski back in the day in
the last 15 years uh a thrush plot has invented like gender gas and just hit uncle with it wait
wait fuck given that it's the same given that it's the same actor you know what the fucking plot was use hormones to make them all male
that's exactly what happened
there you go baby
that joke has been like a year
and a half in the making
this is so tightly fucking scripted
you have no idea
I know we're so smart
but so they're like
they give them all their stuff back and they're like go see Q
no no I'm sorry we have to talk about we have to talk about sir john's line
oh what line is this so so so they meet they meet sir john um the first of all there's a
very hilarious bit where elia tries to shake hands with sir john but the actor playing sir
john turns around at just the wrong time, so Elia has to
slowly... Go back and watch this
scene, let us see if you want to see David McCallum
slowly cover for this mistake.
But then Sir John has a line
where the sentiment he's trying to express is that
he's going to offer them some helpers
to assist him in his mission.
What he actually says is, we'll give you some aids
to see you through this affair.
I missed this completely!
I feel like in 1983 somebody should have called that.
In 1983?! Oh my god.
Oh my god, yeah.
Okay. No. Well, so...
They give them some AIDS, and then they...
Hire a gay person.
Yeah. Well...
So then they're like, like okay go and see Q
because we have a bond inferiority complex
but we can't call her Q
well lads listen
it's like Q but better because she's a fucking broad
she's a hot broad
she's a fucking broad
she's a stacked 10 out of 10
she buys her dresses from Ilya
that would have been a really good reveal
this is my new favourite way of saying that anyone is transsexual now, is that they
buy their dresses at Vanya's.
It would have been such a good- oh, they should have done that!
They should have done that joke, and she's just like, Mr. Kuriakun?
Just like, oh!
Yeah, don't worry, I'll have that fixed for you.
It might take you a couple of weeks.
She's wearing a belted jumpsuit, and has a shitload of guns and so to this woman
philosophy tube ass fit
I always wear
my jumpsuit unzipped to about
naval level
I did in that video where I did the mechanic
it was good
but so she
gives them the round
the fucking rundown or their shit
it's an exploding
bracelet
don't get the exploding bracelet
wet or it explodes
so never wash your hands
don't have a chair
a belt buckle
that's a welding torch
an exploding shoe
let's just give her like 40 exploding things.
And this is my favorite little thing in the fucking movie is that Z is explaining these in that sort of like the jovial Q manner.
And then Solo tries to riff and she just stops dead and like stares him down for a few seconds.
She hates him.
But then the other thing is we get a line that. She hates him. But then,
the other thing is, we get a line
that, frankly, the Bond writers
must be kicking themselves
for missing.
But she says it
because she's horny for Elia.
And she does the 80s movie thing
where she takes off her glasses and she's actually
sexy under there, where
he goes,
I'll try to bring
them back in one piece just try to bring yourself back in one piece i can see the vaseline being
applied to a lens in real time yeah but like but like try and bring yourself back in one piece is
kind of the thing that like all of the q bullshit in the bond movies has been building to to suggest an unusually dangerous mission yeah but for a long time they just couldn't do it
because they wouldn't let him let desmond llewellyn flirt with roger moore they wouldn't let him do it
it's fucked up they should have they should have they should have done that hire a gay person or
you know hire a gay person who will tell well i mean listen you should have said this to fucking
daniel craig look welcome to japan dad is my little girl hot and ready
so let's not say that it's sort of beyond the pale here
hey no trouble listen if you ever get lonely and you want to tap the walls looking for your uncle, come on by.
It's too long a drop to use like that.
I'm sorry.
That's fine.
So they fucking, what do they fucking do?
Pennington Smythe doesn't want a security detail from uncle.
Robert Vaughn goes to see him and he's like no fuck off and meanwhile elia is breaking into
what the fuck is that guy called again the thrash dude lexi kemp yeah hotel room i love this scene
hitman shit by elia they do some really weird shit with kemp all the fucking time because he's
just like a normal guy, right?
But, like, every line about him is just, like,
this fat fucking pig.
And you're like, huh?
Yeah, it's weird casting.
He's just, like, normal looking.
Yeah, he's just a normal man.
It's very strange.
But so, yeah, so Elia lets himself in to bug the telephone,
and then, when caught, do a bunch of sort of, like, accent bits
where he pretends to be the telephone and then when caught do a bunch of sort of like accent bits where he
pretends to be the telephone engineer and he gets caught and held at gunpoint and he has to rely on
solo he like makes them call solo who immediately understands the like vibe and also decides to do
a silly accent i do like this reveal because because uh they hold either at gunpoint and
he's like i'm from the phone repair company and they're like oh yeah what's your boss's name what
number is it and he gives them the number it's like, I'm from the phone repair company. And they're like, oh yeah, what's your boss's name? What number is it?
And he gives them the number.
It's like, ooh, is it fake?
And it goes straight through to Solo.
And Solo's like, yeah, it's totally fine.
Like, yes, this is his name.
Solo's like, I have to answer this
talking like Hunter S. Thompson for some reason.
It's really good.
Just on it immediately.
Yeah.
But so Solo fumbles the bag.
Once again, he's there with kowalski uh they like have to try and convince pennington smite that he's in danger uh and he doesn't want to like he doesn't
want a bodyguard but he agrees to let them like hang around goes outside immediately kidnapped
like just bundled into a car um and shit yeah it yes interesting this is like i think the first time i can remember
that we've seen uncle fail yeah we've seen thrush like just beat them straight up but we we figure
out as solo recovers that this is only possible because they've been betrayed right and who could
possibly be betraying them who figures this out yeah it figures this out. Yeah. It's, it's, it's your prima ballerina.
Yeah.
Cause,
cause she was in the flat when he got the communication saying that
Pennington Smythe was going to be in such and such a location.
So,
so Elia taps the phone.
So he knows where they're going with Pennington Smythe.
First of all,
Solo has to go back to his penthouse suite and do the sort of least
intimidating interrogation ever
because Robert Vaughn sort of
raising his voice just isn't that scary.
Well, it's pretty scary relative to what Napoleon
Solo normally does. He shouts at her,
he pushes her over gently into a chair.
He doesn't hit her, which Connery would have done.
That's true. And she reveals that
Thrush have my father
and I have to do what they say. At this point
Mongo, Mongo's here here we've got a
mongo everybody lowest the lowest effort mongo yeah committed to the mongo you gotta remember
the fucking gym guy the personal trainer guy yeah three identical twins there's so much what
happened to him there are so many more things you can do in this space, but this is just a big
dude, right?
And the big dude, like, karate chops.
It's like Tesco's own brand Mongo.
It's bollocks, mate.
His name is Guido as well, which is very strange.
Yeah.
This is massive, Greg, I have a mustache called Guido.
And by with a mustache, I mean like a normal type mustache, not even like a fun one.
Yeah.
And so Solo has to
sort of like, activate.
I'm in the process of dealing with these guido motherfuckers.
By getting hit.
I'm just mining the drops today.
You're fucking done!
This is why you get the medium bucks,
baby. This is the stuff.
And yeah, he deals with him
by getting karate chopped in the back of the head, and getting
knocked unconscious.
Yeah, again, Solo eats shit.
Eats shit and fails.
Eats shit.
Ilya shows up in his pilot disguise, and his pilot disguise is a chauffeur cap, a flight
jacket, and this accent.
I'll fly you where you wanna go.
I don't ask questions, nor do I I ask talk a bit like David Beckham
he's doing a different voice
they'll never tell
David McCallum came back to this film and he said
my condition is I'm going to get to do some fucking acting
in this
David McCallum should have been cast in The Saint
I'll say that for him
oh my god that would have been so good
so I'll take you to my home
so I'll take you to my home.
Perhaps I'll take you to my home in Africa.
In Africa.
Perhaps I'll take you to my home in Ronford.
Perhaps I'll take you to my home in Africa.
And Janice
allegedly doesn't recognise
him, but there's a moment of like,
does he or does he not?
Because his accent's so convincing.
Yeah, and he's got his cap pulled low over his his eyes some shit and the fakest mustache in the world he he does the great thing of like about to be recognized turns around really quickly and likes
like covers his face uh in a sort of like convincing way really difficult to do that
like suddenly it's it's tough. So he activates the instinct mode
from Hitman Absolution.
So at this point, they're running out of time.
And Solo and Kowalski
are sent to Libya
to go and deliver the ransom
with a sort of side mission
of trying to find out where Uncle's
base is located.
Thrush's base.
Again, don't worry. It's the Hoover Dam portion.
I'm getting really confused. That was his earlier thing, was trying to figure out where Uncle's base was located.
Let's just tap on the...
Ironically, they're in the tailor shop now.
They took the old one.
Yeah.
Come on by!
That guy, the horniest dude.
So yeah, so it's Ilya and Sythe are in the the southern california part of libya
um again at hoover dam brackets libya no no they're in chicago that's where they fly to
elia elia and pennington smythe are taken to chicago elia tracks them down um and uh
which is underneath like uh just a normal house in chicago
it's got a swimming pool this is the coolest fucking shit i've ever seen because it's really
watches them put on scuba gear to get into the swimming pool and then they don't come out and
he's like oh fuck they've got like an under pool lair entrance it's pretty sick actually it's
pretty good that's such a good idea for your lair. I love that.
Thunderbird's ass lair.
It's good.
So he gets in the lair after them.
The bomb is there.
Yeah, the bomb is there.
Nigel is there.
They want him to arm the bomb, which he does.
And Ilya attempts to intervene.
And guess what?
He gets fucking captured because Janus gets the drop on him
and then there is a fun line here
where we come
and then we come
there is a fun line here where Nigel Penitent
as he's arming he says I have to warn you
I don't know how to disarm this
and Janus just says
I don't think that'll be a problem
I must warn you I don't know how to
land this plane
yeah
there's also another ridiculous
little line read that I enjoy
a great deal
there's just
I'm just going to play this for you and I need you to just
oh no not that one
fuck fuck sorry sorry
it's just
he just says okay so flatly like okay it's just like
it's after the after they're like taking the prisoner out of the fucking scuba gear and then
like he's like i take your stuff off okay i don't know i don't know why i like that
whatever some but then we we come full circle to the first uncle movie.
Come over here, Mr. Solo, you're about to be chained to a pipe.
Because having armed the bomb, they fucking chain Elia and Nigel to a pipe, like, overhand.
Fucking Elia gets tied up more than I do. It's unfair. It's bullshit.
Even there's a line about that, Pennington's smile is just like,
we've done this before, and he's like, yeah, yeah, this happens all the time. Yeah, it's really good. It's unfair. It's bullshit. Even there's a line about that. Pennington's smile is just like, we've done this before and he's like,
yeah, it happens all the time. Yeah.
It's really good. He's like,
I usually just have a bomb in my watch to
deal with it. He's like, where is the bomb this time?
He's like, it's in my shoes.
They're like, what the jits? And he's like,
progress on that.
Also, Elia outlines the plan
which is that they're going to set the bomb off
anyway underneath a nuclear power plant,
which will put the American public off nuclear energy
and question mark profit.
Are we, given that this is 83,
are we suggesting that Thrush did Chernobyl?
Because I would kind of believe that at this point.
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, fuck it, probably.
Intercut with this, we're in the hotel room in Libya
where Kowalski figures out where the thrush base is
by looking at a tourist catalogue and going,
oh, the old closed-down Hoover Dam,
which I'm also...
I'm not sure how you close down a dam, but okay.
Oh, it's the old Hoover Dam.
Yeah, it still works, is the thing. If you leave it.
Yeah, a closed down Hoover Dam.
At which point they forget that they know where it is.
And they go to meet Severin.
Or Solo does for the first time.
Yeah, how do they arrange this meeting?
Don't worry about it.
I don't know.
I realised they needed a scene where the hero and the villain meet before the end.
Yeah, again, it was a Stromberg situation.
They were like, oh shit, we need to get it.
So I was like, Mr. Bond, who are you?
Mr. Bond.
And so what he gets to do is to be like,
ah, it's nice to see someone with some style
and panache these days.
We must be men of our word,
or there'd be no integrity left in the world at all,
would there?
This man is planning to betray you.
Yeah, Solo comes out of this meeting knowing,
this man is planning to betray me.
He's gonna fucking get the ransom, and then he's gonna detonate the bomb anyway.
Obviously.
So, Kuriakin is busy escaping by doing some fucking gymnastics work with his shoe, and
he manages to sort of, like, explode...
He manages to get the thing out of his shoe and like
like fucking i don't even know how to describe well he gets the explosive charge out of his
and throws out the pipe and blows it up and then he uses the welding torch belt to cut the chains
off them great um and he's like do you want to have a go at disarming the bomb anyway even though
you said you could just give it a chance give it a fucking college go mate let's let's let's
he said you could just give it a chance give it a fucking college go mate let's let's let's let's do what we can hey as as he's leaving the meeting with for the ransom uh solo puts a tracking device
on mongo by like grabbing him by the lapel and being like hey great job he didn't need to do
this he knew where there was a closed down abandoned old dam you know the haunted dam um. It's just very funny to just grab the guy that knocked you out a minute ago
and be like, you're looking good, man!
What are you working out or something?
Obviously putting things into his pockets.
Wow, you're doing great, bro!
Weighing him down with tracking devices!
At this point, Robert Vaughan gets Kowalski to call in an uncle task force to raid the
dam.
He's gonna infiltrate it beforehand, and we see that Robert Vaughn has the worst fate
that can ever befall anyone.
I hope this never happens to me.
He has become too old to wear camouflage.
They put him in camouflage, and it looks ridiculous.
It's a tough life.
Yeah, I know. I hope this never happens to me. Put him in camouflage and it looks ridiculous. It's a tough life. It's really...
Yeah, I know.
I hope this never happens to me.
But then, like, the uncle task force attack,
the thrush guys are all in orange jumpsuits,
the uncle guys are all in blue, which is very helpful.
I was about to say, the powder blue tactical jumpsuit,
that's the move in our modern age.
And a lot of people fall off things.
That's the kind of one stunt they have,
is they get shot and go,
and fall down a great height
into some water or something.
The guy we saw introduced
by the sliding door
uses his one move to be like,
you've got to close
the sliding door again
before getting blown up
by a fucking grenade.
Yeah.
And at this point,
we know that we need to have
a confrontation scene
between Elia and Janus,
but this prompts
the obvious question,
like, given that the nuclear bomb is about to go off,
all the Thrush guys have obviously left, right?
So they're not going to stick around.
But Janus is still there.
And so we have to have this scene where Elia's like,
why are you still here?
And he invents this, like, bullshit reason.
It's like Uncle Bass with a small U.
He's like, oh, the other other guy who could arm and disarm the bomb?
That's my uncle! And so I know how to do it from him, and I'm gonna disarm the bomb, take it for myself,
and sell it to the highest bidder. And then he's like, and I betrayed you in Yugoslavia,
because you couldn't even shoot straight in there.
Because my name is Janusz, it it literally like two-faced like yeah imagine if a movie did that i mean yeah what
kind of a hack writer also i'm seeing the poster for golden eye so elia shoots him well at least
at least then like that was alex trevelyan chose the name janice as a deliberately ironic joke
because his face was like burned on one half. So it was like two faces.
At least that made sense.
Giannis is just like, his parents just called him that.
It's just like a very traitorous baby.
I hate to be called this.
But like, so Elia shoots him with a harpoon gun and I'm like,
okay, I understand why you have the scuba gear for the secret pool entrance.
Why did you run into a shark?
Why did you bring it in the pool?
Why did you have a harpoon gun?
It just comes with
a scuba kit why else
you have to pass a special exam
to use that
you get it as a bundle from the supplier
the only
listen what if you don't
have one and there just is a shark there
you're fucked
a cave shark
or a nuclear shark
a regular shark's cave
double they are not next to the pool like so all the scuba equipment is lying around in this cave
so they've come out of the pool entrance taken their kit off and then like walked it deeper
into the cave as opposed to leaving it near the pool where you need it lives you know people are real sticklers
not like on a rack or in a drying room but just like lying on the floor getting cave dust on it
get to assembling the rack eventually you know in the meantime this is just floor plans it says
that's where you put them okay like i just don't want to get yelled at i only work here man i'm
just i'm just putting the scuba gear where it's set to.
And I've got the harpoon as well, just on the off chance.
So, a solo kills the old guy with a grenade, not before getting this great line-off.
You stayed so young.
Good makeup, man.
Cool.
Was he having a day off when he filmed this
she chooses what the goal of good makeup is to look like you're not wearing makeup at all
it's the bond it's bond again baby because he fucking he goes oh oh it's a i've got a good
makeup man and the old guy goes what and he yells in his ear i've got a good makeup man and that
caused him to collapse and we see a fucking irrigate fall out of this guy's ear and it's like oh exploit disability we did it classic james bond
maneuver he did also also very bond in that like desiring to both exploit physical disability
and get the line off to a guy who like it will be the last thing he ever hears is like
very funny
it's like your shit joke
imagine you're bleeding out
and another person who killed you delivers some like
awful one liner you'd be like
oh for fuck's sake you're not going to
at this point he runs into
he runs into Mongo
I don't know if that's true he runs into Mongo
if you get killed by a guy who delivers a one liner you go straight to hell like that's what i mean i don't mean just i'm not
making a value judgment on my two friends on the call right now i mean if you get owned that hard
you just skip my purgatory so so at this point we he meets mongo and you know uh he does what
blofeld would do to james bond James Bond had Asperger's.
He throws him into a conversation pit.
Listen, I was really proud of that one, I know it's a weak joke, but like, if you die
right after hearing that, you gotta howl, it's the other thing.
Conversation pit?
Oh no!
To a conversation pit.
And they have a fight, Solo gets his ass beat, but then he hits the guy with a bottle
or something, and the guy...
No, it's the fucking exploding bracelet.
He uses the exploding bracelet, and the guy perfectly ragdolls.
It looks like he just turned the fucking collision off, or whatever.
The exploding bracelet which explodes when it gets wet, and I'm like, you gave
this to the most pussy- pussy getting agent you've ever had
up to the wrist
I don't know
but I mean like
I guess but I mean I think the more
salient feature is he's doing in a
sort of dam
yes also he's in a dam
yes true
I guess it's like someone squirted
you make a squirt and then your hand falls off
because you've got an explosive bracelet on.
Having an exploding bracelet that close to your pussy
also probably not good for you.
I think that's like a 200% fatality rate, you know?
Yeah, it wouldn't be good.
Just like best of times.
Yeah, I thought I couldn't walk again.
Why? Was it that good?
No, he had an exploding bracelet that blew my fucking pussy off
which was a nightmare because I just
got it last week
doing GRS this way doing like
an exploding cock ring
anyway
like breaching clear
shaped charge on your cock
I hate when the methods of entry man
puts a slap charge on your cock. You can't do that. I hate when the methods of entry man puts a slap charge on your cock.
Fucking Claymore, yeah.
Slap side of cock, great bit of kick.
Decide toward pussy.
Be a good tattoo.
Be a good above dick tattoo.
Yeah, yeah.
That's so good, I love that.
No, that's awful.
That's so bad.
Alright, this is the thing.
I have a gift. I have a gift i have a gift for like
creating tattoo ideas for people they're often terrible but they're always like remarkable
it's not any worse than my original idea which is to get like a ouija board tattooed
just above my car i really thought that was such a fucking
funny and good idea but i was really glad i didn't go for that well to be fair i think i'd still have
excused it by now yeah for sure um so at this point solo runs in to go and confront severin
severin like is hovering his hand over the two buttons like
the meme, but the two buttons are destroy the bomb immediately, like detonate it immediately,
or cancel bomb. Solo comes in and he's like, hey, and Severin just fucking shoots him.
Which is exactly what you want to do. Oh, on the way, Solo rescues the ballerina
as well. Ah, yeah, whatever.
So Solo gets shot in the arm at this point, Severin books it, he just leaves.
And Severin just walks out.
Yeah, because he tries the detonate button, and it doesn't work, because at the
last second, the most busted twink in the world has remembered how to disarm the bomb.
And so, Severin escapes, and they so clearly wanted to bring this series
back right like so clearly
I mean it's kind of weird like think
about the ways that previous uncle villains have
gone out so the spy in the green hat was turned
into a fine paste by Elia
shooting pressurized water at him
Mr. Alexander died in an unrelated
explosion having fallen out of a window
um fucking
who the fuck else Herbert L herbert long got turned into
gold yeah the last guy got killed in an airstrike um is it yeah yeah remember they they like fly the
plane at him and they fire a missile into the command center oh yeah he was in la airport and
he got he got sissy hypnogast and then yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Severin just leaves.
All of these guys died.
Severin just leaves because they wanted to bring him back, they wanted to do some more.
They wanted to do more!
It's so clear they wanted to do more, and it's like, eh.
This was not successful financially.
What we get as a scene in the Russian cafe at the end, where Ilya and Solo are
sort of comparing notes, and solo by the way i never
mentioned this he's meant to be a computer salesman which is such a sort of 1983 idea of
like what's a what's a business job but he's ilia asks him how was the computer business like
compared to spying and he has this bafflingly hard line i'm finding it increasingly more and
more difficult having a meaningful relationship with the machine.
All best from heart of the machine?
He's like, what, okay, how's the dress business going?
He's like, oh, there's some weird people in it, you know, I keep getting in like trans
discourse on Twitter.
She's transsexual.
Wait a minute, I just have that.
She's transsexual.
There you go.
I should have used that like eight times thus far, for how the fuck it p-
But so they're like, okay, fine, well, you know, it's weird, but whatever, and then
Channel D opens, and Patrick Brickney goes, uh, the fucking vice president's disappeared,
boys, you gotta find him.
Um, him. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da And the weirdest look, the weirdest possible look Robert Vaughan gives, this is gonna be
the episode, he looks at Ilya and he gives him this perfect shrug of like, I guess we're
back!
You know?
And that...
Which is perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect microphone.
That's the last shot they made of the man from Uncle!
Like, until the reboot!
And it makes me quite sad, because, like, I've gotten attached to these two by now. Okay, it was pretty bad in a lot of ways, but like, I think they should just keep making
every show forever, and you can watch it if you want to.
Or at least they should have ended it.
And you should have, like, universal jobs.
It was a good ending.
They shouldn't have made this movie, is what they shouldn't have done.
Yeah.
Like, it was a good ending, although to be fair, I'm happy with shopping at Vanya's, but like it just,
it was like a perfect ending to the series.
And they tried to start it again and it just fell completely flat.
And there's nothing more sad than watching a movie that has like a clear
sequel hook that just never got fucking touched.
Like the movie,
The Man From U.N.C.L.E.,
which we're going to watch next time.
And I have a theory about that too. My theory is The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which we're gonna watch next time. And I have a theory about that, too.
My theory is, The Man From U.N.C.L.E. shouldn't be a movie series.
It doesn't work as a movie series.
We've been watching it as one, that's not what it is.
It's a Villain of the Week TV series.
It's a high budget TV series.
And if anyone ever wants to bring it back, and they should, because it's a good conceit,
all you really need for it is, well, a shitload of money, and sets, and special effects, but
all you really need is, like, two talented actors who are good at playing off each other,
and you build the whole show around that.
It writes itself.
You can make it a 60s period piece if you want, nobody's buying period pieces
at the moment, I guess.
Doesn't matter, but you could do anything
with it. You could set it in the fucking Civil War
for all that matters,
right?
Wild West.
Alan Pinkerton being
Uncle, right? You can do anything with
it, and they should.
To be fair, 60s period piece
Man from U.N.C.L.E. TV series, I'd watch that.
That'd be fucking sick.
And you don't really get TV series like this anymore
because of, you know, as we've talked about on Trash Future,
amongst other things,
so like Netflix and Amazon don't like renewing series of things
and they like sort of like killing them off after one season
so nothing really gets to grow and develop into this.
Make it woke, you know?
You could.
Netflix absolutely hates doing third seasons of
anything because you have to stop paying people more that's true mr television committed commissioning
or miss or mix uh if you're listening and i think you are give us 100 million dollars and tell us to
do the man from encore and we will create the best tv series ever made i promise you i think netflix
is a good company that makes
good entertainment for
the whole family.
I'm really excited to see
what they do next.
There are various great properties
that are really...
We've got nothing to worry about. We can't animate.
Don't worry. I want to fight.
Mr. Netflix. Justice for Tuca and B to fight. Mr. Netflix.
Justice for Tuca and Bersing.
Mr. Netflix.
If you have...
Shut the fuck up.
Shut up.
It's just him, like, making...
Shut up, fucking...
Oh, the thing about Netflix is they're currently hiring people to make movies.
Really great.
All I'm saying...
There are some nice ones out there
bring this shit back
bring this shit back
I think CBS still has the copyright
to it
whatever owns CBS now
Paramount I think right
for child protective services
CBS
child protective services
child protective services they assign you a bro CBS Child Protective Services I think
does Paramount
does Paramount
own CBS
because Paramount
because like
Star Trek Lower Decks
used to be on CBS
and Paramount
definitely owns Star Trek
this definitely
isn't good content
I don't know
yeah
but basically
make it happen
put us in charge
we'll put the most
stacked trans baddies
in front of you
that you've ever seen.
That's right.
Yeah, we will.
We'll do it.
But what do we think about this movie?
Do we have closing thoughts or do we want to get into the scum spectrum?
I think I've expressed myself sufficiently.
It's basically just like another man from Uncle Phil.
Yeah.
They didn't really try and do anything special with it, which is a shame.
I think they could have done.
I think there should have been more JB in it.
Fuck me, that sucked. I think they should have been more JB. Fuck me,
that sucked.
I think they should have been more of it.
I think they should have been a hinge of it.
We have a science-based
rating system on this podcast. It's called the SCUMM
system. It stands for SMAM, Cultural
Insensitivity,
Unprovoked Violence, and Misogyny.
How do we think this movie stands on
SMAM?
I mean... I think it's a little bit higher than usual
it's definitely higher
oh it's the thing from my pacemaker because I'm old
I'm gonna make sure you heard my fucking
line because you're like 5
5 or 6
I'd go as high as a 3 or a 4
a 4 I guess
ok
cultural insensitivity high, but I'd go as high as a three or a four. A four, I guess. Okay.
Cultural insensitivity.
Libya is not a location in this film.
It is just... Are there any people of colour
who have a line? I know there are a couple of
supporting artists.
No, there is like... Kowalski's partner
is black. Yeah, so it's an entirely
white principal cast. Yep.
Does Guido have a line?
No, he doesn't.
He's named.
No.
He is named, but like...
No, he's one of those strong, silent guys,
like in Octopussy or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, he's mute.
Yeah.
So, gotta be sort of high in a sort of an omission way.
I could see my way to a four for this one
yeah
sure
I feel like it's a bit
more violent than Uncle
usually is
people get killed
yeah
what seems high
for omission
kills that old guy
with a grenade
yeah
like a fucking
guy gets shot
in the stomach
with a spear gun
yes true
which doesn't seem
particularly pleasant
I'll say that
yeah
that was provoked
but I get what you mean.
It wasn't nice.
It's kind of got a bit darker because it's been infected by Bondness.
Yeah, that's true.
And also, Bond himself kills a whole bunch of people in this.
He blows up cars with missiles and stuff.
It's more violent than Uncle usually is.
Yeah.
And that really is unprovoked for Bond because he's just fucking around.
He's just there.
Because he's a stone-cold psycho.
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
James Bond is the subject of, like, a stateswide manhunt, and just, like, shows up in this
movie to kill a bunch of guys, then leave.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tommy Lee Jones is looking for this.
Terrifying.
Five?
Four?
Five.
Five.
Misogyny.
I mean, it does say that you can't trust women, right? And it also says that every woman in the world wants to fuck Ilya.
True.
But equally, you can't trust women because they're manipulated because they have uncles, or whatever. And that's sort of a lever on them.
From an actress point of view, there aren't really many female characters in this who like do anything or particularly good roles i can't say i would really want to play either of these roles which admittedly is not the test
of misogyny but like you know it's a test of misogyny um i yeah i i want to say four this
is like mediocre even in the ways that it's bad yeah that gives us a total score of 17 which is
again pretty mediocre resolutely average sad note to go out on for the
for the uncle boys but perhaps the reboot can redeem it i can't wait yeah i i every single
member of the cast and crew of the man from uncle 2015 2013 is like now, typing in the chat, I didn't fumble the bat.
I swear to God.
I'm looking forward to seeing this.
I want to see a modern take on Napoleon Soto.
I remember it fondly.
I really enjoyed it when I saw it.
I don't know if it'll hold up.
You know, we'll see.
We'll have to see.
But that's going to be the next one
the next bonus episode
I believe is
Avi's decision
oh we know what it is
which is
I've already decided
it's My Little Pony
French Miss Magic the movie
that's right
I hate you so much
we're going to be watching
My Little Pony French Miss Magic
the movie
we're going to have
a lovely time
thank you for
yeah with our friends
does it
have a Patreon
yeah Patreon
it's got songs in it.
It is.
It is.
Yeah, it does.
It does have songs in it.
Finally, Kill James Bond will answer the question,
who is Best Pony?
God.
Come on.
What the fuck?
It's a bit of a fucking stunt.
Cut it.
I'm playing you out right now.
I'm playing you out I'm playing you out
you're a fucking
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