Knowledge Fight - #639: January 17, 2022

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on a very frustrating day on the Alex Jones Show.  In this installment, Roger Stone announces that he has/had Covid and is suing everyone, Alex tries not to make fun of Brian Stelter, and Mike Lindell once again announces he has evidence that will put Trump back in office. Citations

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a big uprising about to happen and you really work for Trump and he's secretly going to do this to launch some type of new attack that will be much more violent than the Capitol fiasco before the midterms to bring in real martial law and it's our number one mission to stop that. I am a non-attorney spokesperson representing a team of lawyers who interesting. So it's really weird this timing for Alex to jump off being super into militia and revolutionary air military stuff. Alex is just talking shit, but I think he's keenly aware that there are a ton of really heavily armed dangerously prone towards violence militia members out there who've been fed a steady diet of ideas but at the globalists are going to take out the

leadership, then they're going to come to your house to kill your family. He knows that he was a part of amping that up and banging that drum constantly and now probably the highest profile militia leader in the country has been arrested for a seditious conspiracy and it sounds like maybe Alex has read the indictment by this point and he knows that Stuart's fucked. Alex isn't so stupid as to not understand that there are violent lunatics out there who are waiting for the sign to jump off and start shooting people who will likely see Stuart getting arrested as the sign that they were waiting for. I hope that there aren't too many of these these sorts of folks and that they'll end up choosing not to hurt people, but I think that the possibility is there. So I

feel like this is kind of why Alex is predicting this kind of false flag and sending a message that he isn't into paramilitary stuff. I think it's because he's really worried at this point that there's a possibility that there will be some paramilitary style reprisals for Stuart's arrest and he'd rather not have to deal with those very clear consequences of the last 13 years of his broadcast career. Either that or Alex actually has proof of Q-style commando camps in North Carolina which are full of people recruited off the internet to carry out attacks which will then get blamed on patriots. I would say that if he has evidence like he claims he does he better present that shit right now because it would be a gigantic news story and it shouldn't be hard to prove either

if it's real since the recruitment's being done online on the internet that should have left a trail that Alex can show pretty easily. If Alex claims that his number one mission is to stop this supposed uprising that would probably be what he does but the reality is that Alex doesn't want to stop anything. He just wants to lay some groundwork so if there are some right-wing attacks he'll be able to point to this bullshit to insist that they were actually false flags. He's interested in harm reduction but only the reduction of harm that would come to himself. Right. Right. That's that's the game that he's playing here with the I'm not into paramilitary stuff. Right. Right. Get the fuck Hey militia guys. Stop being so militia-y. I do. I do like that it is that one kind of thing of like

you've you've created such an imaginary world that you can't reason people down from from this so you have to engage with them in the imaginary world of like hey don't commit any violence not because it's wrong but because there's a secret magical organization that's trying to take advantage of you for committing violence and you're like oh well that makes sense but I mean it would stand to reason that like I guess if you know yourself to have not been part of an internet queue camp commando thing then what is the problem with you committing violence because they don't know if because you might get your buddies taken in I guess so you know I don't know anyway it's all just the same thing he does all the time whenever he's you know pretty worried that the heat is a little

too high covering his own ass so we it's been a while since we've heard Alex get really mad about Brian Stelter it has been a while and today is the day that that changes it's about time Alex is really mad at Brian Stelter but he sets a possibly impossible goal for himself okay all right everybody knows that I don't like Brian Stelter and he's everything I don't want to be welcome back to the Alex Jones show and normally when I start getting into something Stelter's doing because he is the mouthpiece of Jeff Sucker he is the mouth of the New World Order what you hear is a script he's fed I started attacking how he looks and and just how he gives me the heebie jeebies I'm not going to do that next segment I'm going to play what he has to say

and then fully debunk it come on to show you how gaslighting works this is going to be very important coming up next segment and I'm going to again I'm going to refrain from my normal attacks on him because again I'm trying to be more professional here because the time it's just the things are too dangerous right now things that things that things are too dangerous for me to make fun of Brian Stelter anymore that's just look we all had our fun hey you know once once they get roads for gun caches all around the capital you know that they can't allow people to make fun of Stelter anymore well they can allow it but Alex has a higher calling that's true he's got to be very serious ah it's bigger than and so we'll see it's bigger than hip hop that's for sure we'll see if

he's able to hold his tongue from I think you can tell already yeah there's no chance of that so before he gets to his his piece on stelter Alex has to do one of the things that he does best and that is tell completely fictional stories about interactions that he has with people on the street love it and I'm just telling everybody in the military and the bureaucracy and then everybody I'm not looking for a fight with you you're under as much attack as I am again I saw a beautiful black lady walking out of a grocery store yesterday and I said hey you're in the army what are you in and she told me and I said have you taken the shot she said oh man they made me take the second one worst thing ever worst thing I've ever felt I said what brain fog she was oh yeah I'm just now

getting over it and she said oh my stomach hurts so bad you know my and I said oh okay she said yeah period because we know that most women that take it have serious mental problems amazing for continually it's like six months ago you've had mental problems for six months took it a year ago you've had it for a year they're like well we hope it's only temporary I mean again I see a woman in walking out in her army uniform out of a store with some bags of groceries like hey and I'm not trying to brag it's true she goes yeah you're Alex Jones I've seen you on Joe Rogan it's always Joe Rogan he's so huge but the point was is this was a beautiful woman I suppose she's black that was the point

they always mention what race somebody is but no you do you you always do but like this is wild the the notion that Alex walked up to this person and like hi I'm Alex Jones from Info Wars talk to me about your period yeah tell me all about your menstrual cramps I mean just this never happened you know it's it's amazing how you know you all three words beautiful black and lady all fine together when they come out of Alex's mouth in that order I am deeply uncomfortable it's it feels weird yeah but but like even I think fairly charismatic welcoming nice people I think wouldn't end up having conversations with people about their menstrual cycle no no I think that most people would not have those conversations with random people on the street generally

speaking that's the case yeah yeah and all that stuff that he's talking about about menstrual changes from vaccine is just a complete misrepresentation of a study that he never actually read yeah and this conversation is is totally imaginary but he just keeps talking about it I'm looking this lady and I just I just I just felt like asking her I felt like saying hey how are you doing you take the shot she's oh I'm just now starting to get over it I said oh I mean I mean that's how real this is that I just randomly and walking into a grocery store and the first person I talked to has got hurt by it that's not statistics I'm reading in some document would show it's off the chart bad that's not top scientists telling me that's the first

person I see in a uniform again this never happened this person didn't exist this conversation is fake that is the flimsiest bullshit yeah there's something interesting here though that Alex brings up at the end that I want to touch on he seems to be expressing that the fact that he talked to someone who had an adverse event from a vaccination would constitute stronger evidence about vaccine side effects than data this seems really weird and it's obviously not true but it's actually completely true for how Alex engages with information the way that Alex presents information is entirely story based and data isn't really all that compelling as a story it's hard to read to dry yeah there's oh boy what do you even add with them anecdotal stories about people real or

imagined who have supposedly been hurt by vaccines though those kinds of stories are super compelling and he's trained his audience but far more weight on stories that someone could just be making up than they would on data that's a really big problem for the so-called information war because it's really more of a storytelling war yeah that's that's what he should call his his show story time telling war hour right yay the moth story slam war oh man drag queen sad hour hmm so um look man there's uh there's obviously there's there's people who are putting it out there the vaccines are safe but wouldn't you know all of them are getting paid hundreds of thousands of influencers are getting paid billions of dollars visors paid

out about 10 billion they now admit just in the last year so that number is about six months behind part of last year part of the year before last and then part of last year imagine how much they spent now 10 billion from everything i can tell this is a completely made up stat and story there have been attempts to use social media influencers to encourage people to get vaccinated but that wasn't being done by fizer that was done by the government one of the more high-profile examples of this was in colorado where the governor hired a pr company called idea marketing to handle all the public-facing aspects of spreading vaccine information their contract was for 8.8 million dollars and it appears that they enlisted 120 influencers on social media paying them up to

$1,000 a month to promote vaccines according to their planning documents which are publicly available they budgeted a total of $286,500 for compensation going to influencers this is less than that was paid for google ads or for youtube ads and it was a bit less than they allocated even for spanish-speaking cable channels this was last year but in december 2020 there were similar stories about influencers in new jersey making money to do similar stuff this was more or less the equivalent of a psa in our new social media space and these people do have to disclose that they are you know making paid posts like they do if a company pays them to promote a product yeah there's a flip side of this that i'm sure alex doesn't want to touch and that's in uh may

2021 news broke that online influencers were being approached to spread misinformation about the fizer vaccine according to a new york times piece murko drachman a german youtuber who comments on health issues and has 1.5 million subscribers was approached by a mysterious agency called fazi fazz about being involved in a quote information campaign about fizer deaths the aim was to make sensational claims about the vaccine's deadliness and about how everyone was covering it up essentially it was an information campaign to do alex's show yeah it was propaganda simultaneously leo grassett a french health youtuber with over a million followers was contacted by the same agency with the same offer their revelations led to other influencers coming

out and saying that they had also been approached the agency is actually really shady to and according to this article it's kind of hard to tell like what it is exactly leo grassett posted screenshots of the messages he got from the person at the company who identified himself as anton quote anton had been willing to pay uh for 45 to 60 second videos on instagram tick tock or youtube warning that the fizer vaccine was deadly anton also asked him to quote act like you have the passion and interest in this topic while avoiding terms advertising and sponsored in posts yeah quote the materials should be presented as your own independent view the pitch said things get a bit weirder though and by august 2021 facebook had had a move to kick the fazi agency off the

platform more information was coming out that it was a quote subsidiary of a uk registered marketing firm whose operations were primarily conducted from russia streambridge ramda litrica this obviously isn't to say that this was a like a russian government plot or anything but it does provide a very strong basis to conclude that this was a foreign misinformation campaign that targeted people in other countries also apparently at one point some of the campaign was to spread the narrative that the fizer vaccine was turning people into chimpanzees oh that's probably true so that's probably true good stuff there was an episode of cowboy bebop about that anyway this kind of thing is happening and it's more insidious than psas that are being done by social media influencers

who disclose that they're doing psas but alex doesn't care about this sort of story at all because the misinformation that's being spread is in line with the message that he wants to amplify there's no good explanation for this agency's actions so the best way to navigate the story is just to ignore it and then exaggerate or lie about what the people you don't like are doing that's uh that's the that's the game yeah yeah i mean i like that i like that company i like that idea of such complete like hey either capitalism is gonna work or it's not you know i'm i'm offering you a bunch of money you can either say no and there's no consequences for me i'm some random dude in russia or i you can take my money and i get what i want like that is a completely zero

risk situation i'm not entirely sure based on the information that's available what the deal is and how actually like real the the ability to follow through with these offers may have been sure you know oh it sounds it sounds weird to shit yeah i'm a little bit confused about it but i also know that some people go along with things and then get screwed by deals that never pay off yeah so some things may may fall into that camp yeah the first thing that i thought of whenever you told me about them was just like those roommate scams where they're like oh yeah i'll i'll pay you the first and second month's rent but i'm out it's i'm out of state right now can you send me a little up front so then i can yeah that's good that's got that vibe all over it yep um so we need to get

the news now alex realizes like it's time baby you've already blasted through 30 plus minutes of this transmission today i need to start digging into the news and covering it all for you here today but the first big thing i want to hit is brian stelter which means the mouth of the establishment attacking glenn beck and i've been a big critic of glenn beck because he said i was making up the fema camp plans back under obama to put americans in camps i got real army documents a few years later the army admitted they were real that obama was preparing to put americans quote in reeducation camps which is a soviet brainwashing term a brainwashing camp

that's uh not not accurate but although i do like how he keeps calling like stelter the mouth of the establishment which is in opposition jimmy hart the uh the mouth of the south yeah you gotta keep those things uh distinct they are they're not the same no and this has been my wrestling reference of the day there you go check that box off there we go yep that's that's on the whiteboard right there um so yeah i guess we got to talk about stelter and uh what he's been up to but first alex has got to tip his cap to uh the people who are really doing the good work so here's the good news we got tulsi gabard's we got glenn beck we got i think the name's going forever carlson and joe rogan and everybody else and congress people on both sides going hey this is a global

government plan they they admitted they want to shut society down and take over and they're using the virus bringing a world id and and if people get that then we'll understand that all the fear mongering and controlled is about putting us in a permanent prison and then they won't be able to do this anymore so i guess it's a covet is here to bring in marsha law type day not that they're going to kill us all no kind of day that's interesting um also tulsi gabard's is uh getting to be a little annoying that was a great list yeah that was a great list it goes on and on that list also like it makes me think of like hey what happened to that narrative where jack dorsi left twitter so he could support alex i remember that what happened to that one

yeah that one was fun that seems to have materialized now i think he's joining to the team that's killing everybody again now oh no yeah so alex has some other people who are heroes and maybe some bad news about one of these heroes we are here and i don't know roger stone's gonna be able to come on he's had really bad covet for two weeks he says the sickest he's been in his life he sounds like darth vader and i talked to him for 30 minutes yesterday and uh i said you gotta come on here he said i'll come on at 12 30 my time it's 11 30 our time and he's so sick right now he's trying to decide whether to come on he said i sound terrible but i really want to say all this and i understand i've been through what he's been through it's real it's not fun it's next level

we'll see if he's with us next hour so remember all those descriptions of uh of how alex is saying roger's doing because it doesn't match at all how he uh sounds or is acting when he finally does show up great also like that term next level is like alex uses that for whatever he wants like trump is next level his supplements are next level whatever level you're on they're on the next one roger's covet next level it's the most covet anybody's ever had so now that this has gotten out of the way at the tip of the cap to tulsi gabbards and the announcement that roger has cohood yeah we get to stelter are you sure it's not polonium poisoning this time well that's what made me suspicious that he's faking it but i think that he might not be for some other reasons sure he might

be demonstrating some new problems okay i will give this just a spoiler alert he seems to be slurring his speech a little bit okay all right and that was not something that was now a hallmark of uh his uh his previous appearances and that is something that could be associated with damage that could be done by sure sure absolutely so um i has a tent to call this a fake thing although roger makes it very difficult yeah with his uh his stunts that he pulls yeah there are some people on the planet for whom guilty until proven innocent should probably be the rule yeah um so here we go stelter time ryan stelter does this eight minute report i'm not gonna air the whole thing i'll air a few minutes but it's

the same repeat over and over again saying it's just insane glenn beck has written this book and tucker carlson doesn't even question him about there's an elite using the lockdown to get rich that's ridiculous and then it's a war on little people yeah that's why the small businesses is open or closed everything else is open that's that's box store alex is missing the point of stelter's piece here the notion that the global elites are using covet to reshape society and crush the little guy as stelter puts it in his piece it's a very small throwaway line that he uses to describe glenn's book as a whole the piece is actually entirely about a specific claim that beck makes on tucker's show about officials in washington state uh meeting to plan internment camps to put unvaccinated

people in and how tucker doesn't ask any questions or push back at all but just listens with his wide-eyed quizzical look that he uses when weirdos lie to his audience stelter's take on that is the central thing that alex needs to refute if he's going to cover this video which we'll see if he does when he actually gets down to business on this also really alex needs to update his talking points does he really expect to pass off a narrative where only big box stores are allowed to be open at this point like that's just something he remembers saying from like a year and a half ago that just he doesn't realize isn't true anymore even if he back then yeah i i don't know what it is that's part or not parts or that that narrative whenever you start just muscle memory when you

start digging deep back in there you don't know what's still part of that and he doesn't no so it's just going to come out but yeah it's like oh i threw up a little bit of my own bullshit like a demon coming out of the stern collider trying that narrative just pop back up trying to get you yep so alex seems to be interested primarily on focusing on the wrong point and then beck does the same thing i just did messes up what he's saying and he goes this is the best read i mean the best book i've written he goes oh look you didn't write it you ghost wrote it that there's a there's a part at the beginning of the stelter piece where he's saying that he suspects that glenn beck may not have written the book because beck starts with this is the best book i've ever

read i mean wrote i wrote yeah and so stelters is making fun of that yeah which i can tell you glenn beck he probably wrote a lot of it and had somebody put together in quotes and then did have some of it finished up and edited but that is oh so so he did so he did have a ghost right yeah so okay doesn't matter the point is he's exposing i've read the synopsis i've read the book yet the whole globalist operation how they did it what's unfolding you name it and so instead of addressing any facts or any real things in the book he just says it's made up like oh with no evidence glenn beck has got this book about the great reset it's number one of course because it's just made up stelter didn't say that the great reset as an idea is all made up he does say that

the washington state internment camp thing is made up though but you can see here how alex is intentionally misrepresenting what stelters piece was about so he can get mad about it without exposing his audience to the actual point that stelter was making if you just insist that he was claiming without providing any proof that beck's book is all made up the audience can internalize that and if the claim is that stelter was saying that the great reset is completely made up the audience can conclude that stelter is an intentional liar and this critique of tucker's shitty journalism should just be ignored at the end of the day alex is basically just trying to provide cover for tucker like some sad underling taking offense at anything bad that

said about the boss it's weak yeah stelter says that this specific thing that glenn beck talks about is completely made up and that is the story about washington state preparing internment camps for unvaccinated people and that's because that's totally made up this has to do with the piece of legislation passed in 2003 in washington titled wac 246-100-040 this legislation allows local health officials to quarantine individuals or groups of people in very narrow cases where there's an emergency regarding a chemical biological uh radiological agent or a communicable disease if you read this with very paranoid eyes there's a way you can make it seem like it applies to covid but it doesn't this was passed in 2003 but it had been up for discussion recently but not

because the government wanted to make it apply to covid in june 2020 the board of health passed the engross substitute house bill 1551 which was meant to quote change stigmatizing language in wac 246-100 in regards to hiv and aids this was something that hiv advocates had been pushing for since 2014 when governor inslee had set a goal of reducing aids cases in the state by 50 by 2020 this section wac 246-100 is something that has a slot in the agenda at every board of health meeting because they you know discuss what and what's going on updates that need to be made but that's how this argument gets made that they're planning to do this now as opposed to back in 2020 when this actual uh bill was passed right this is a real thing but there's also a fake thing that uh

stelter brings up that he applies to people like glenn beck claiming that there's going to be internment camps for the unvaccinated there were a couple viral posts on social media of a headline from a site called value walk uh quote biden announces americans not vaccinated before 2022 will be put in camps this post is satire and it's labeled as satire if anyone took the time to read it they would find some red flags like this paragraph quote many patriotic americans living in texas and florida have announced they have no plans of going into such camps one text and tweeting yeah good luck i have minds around my ranch good luck to the feds another flirty and tweeted will there be math in the camps if so it isn't really that bad local kids are actually looking forward to these

camps as they believe it'll be the closest they'll ever get to getting laid while also not having to get a shot at the same time i'm not even sure what the joke is i i really i really really don't like it this itself is just a post that they stole from the stonk market and then reposted on this value walk site but with a snazzier image that reposting on value walk is screenshot and then shared all over conservative in conspiracy minded social media where people can take in the message without reading the clearly absurd article that is labeled satire a dumb poorly written joke can thus be passed off as a serious article and because people don't look into things they just assume it's real this relates to our subject because stelter brings up the claims of internment

camps for the unvaccinated traced back in some cases to satire but i do think that he needed to do a better job of distinguishing that as it relates to the specific example of washington state and that camp conspiracy this satirical article is background to the real misrepresentation of the stuff about washington updating the language in their bill to reduce hiv aid stigma this leads me to an unfortunate point and that is that i'm going to have to take stelter to task a little bit here but for different reasons than alex does it's because he's ugly oh no while he's talking about the washington state camps conspiracy he says that a usa today fact check said that this conspiracy started from a satirical post that is not true the usa today article is

about the value walk article that i mentioned a minute ago but it actually has nothing to do with the specific case in washington except like i said as like pretext or a background it's not directly involved this matters because stelter's piece is about misinformation and how sloppy mistakes from the media can aid in spreading bullshit the point of his piece is somewhat undercut by the fact that he himself is making a sloppy mistake here and attributing the washington conspiracy to this satire article instead of discussing the actual misrepresentation of the board of health bill that mistake whatever the cause can be used by people like alex to claim that he's covering up valid concerns or at very least undermine the idea that people who are

critical of right wing misinformation know what they're talking about i wish you'd done better here but at the same time alex is still lying about the segment and creating a strawman version of what stelter's saying so that he doesn't have to deal with the broader point that stelter is making which is actually correct the broader point is correct right the uh sloppiness is just there which is unfortunate no i mean yeah but it's like what are you gonna do journalism's hard and it's not like they're paying him hundreds of thousands of dollars or something or he has a giant team available to him or anything along those lines i feel like i i run into this a bit like these thoughts and i don't know what the answer is but there's there's a part of me that

feels like obviously coverage of this misinformation stuff is important it needs to be needs to be done but i wonder if an organization with a paradigm like cnn no is actually the answer is already i do i wonder if those those outlets are actually even possible of presenting it in the way that there's their shows run as it is no i don't know i mean in order it seems like it might be possible but i i don't it's it's it's only possible to the extent that the other factors that they have to uh kowtow to will allow it to be like as long as they're a profit driven network misinformation is also part of their job you don't make money by telling people the truth all the time you know like that's just how it works when you run so many different ads so many

different things when you're trying to tell all of these different stories all at the same time in such a short amount of time you're gonna lose a lot of shit and you're gonna wind up doing uh sloppy work right it's it's kind of similar to what we're experiencing here in so far as what you can do is you can say that this is tracked back to a satirical piece usa today fact checkers say that is a true demonstrable fact right but it's not but it's not uh it's a condensation of the way that the entire sequence of events happened so instead of misinformation maliciously they wind up because of the constraints of their their time structure because of the constraints of money and so on and so on and so forth doing these little things and they add up they they do they

do and i think that oftentimes it's the result of how news shows are made right and maybe there needs to be some changes to that i don't know exactly what those changes are but for my purpose is what i'm most interested in is particularly when the subject that's being covered is misinformation and you know stelter's calling out right like the media entities that are that are like they make a mistake and then it's pounced on right like you can't do you can't do that and then make this kind of a mistake no it's just bullshit well i mean they're they're trapped because the people who have been on the misinformation beat uh have gotten really good at it over the past five to ten years and the mainstream networks didn't bother with it uh it wasn't really important to them

they were just doing the news so now they're trying to step into space that has been well trodden by people who are very very good at it and they don't want to hire them and so i think most people who'd like i don't know speaking for myself i don't want them to hire me exactly exactly yeah i don't know yeah so uh alex alexa has some clips that he wants to promote that he doesn't he doesn't have or at least he doesn't actually play but he does do some fun impressions oh with no evidence glenn beck has got this book about the great reset it's number one of course because it's just made up thinking you're so dumb or his listeners are that they won't go to the devils group and hear cloth swaps say we are imploding the economy to

end industrial world soon you own nothing soon you have nothing soon microchip on the skin let's see what the head of phyzer say phyzer talks the same way like a cartoon character yes you put the chip inside the shot that way we track them it's so good wait phyzer also talks like that i mean that's a new clip i had it oh we run them we do it oh i think i think alex is doing these impressions uh because he told himself he can't make fun of steltzer i think he just needs something he's gotta he's gotta hang his head somewhere yeah he's so bored with talking about anything that isn't like just childish outbursts and so he has to do these voices right right right he's got to have an outlet yeah also i i would love for him to play the clip of the head of phyzer saying

oh we put the chip oh we put the chip into the thing that's so good wow yeah i i i i'm pretty confident that he's making this up and i'm also confident that he never plays it on this episode for sure oh yeah so uh alex ends up playing this stelter clip and i did notice that he does not interrupt it because i think that he is holding himself back about this it's professionalism i have to be professional now so he gets about a minute and a half of uh the way through that's about as good as he can get and here here's where we're at okay so tugger just sits there and listens respectfully while glenn implores people to buy his book and sure enough the book is number one on amazon right now because fear does sell and after the

interview tucker thanks his guest and calls the book amazing and horrifying and then he says just briefly just gently that he's heard about this washington state conspiracy theory and he hasn't been able to verify it but back to the step 20 seconds notice he says he even showed his book like he showed his penis on here oh what showed his book who he showed a book that's who that's like the baddest free speech oh and and oh fear sells you know you mean truth sells i'm not sure i've ever seen alex have so much nothing to respond to a clip with he actually controls himself like i said he doesn't talk over the clip but then he interrupts with that i was so confused about what he's even mad about like i don't remember well i watched this and i don't remember stelter

saying anything about showing the book so i went back and i listened to it again and at the beginning he says this if you take a step back and think about it the covid 19 pandemic is a chance for salesmen to sell fear take the unvaccinated glenn back who's been shilling his new book while sick with covid he said shilling his book yeah alex has so much nothing that he went back to the start of the video to find something to get mad about and it was a word he misheard oh my god this is pathetic oh wow this is what happens when he can't insult the guy you've got to say something about his face well thank you what are you gonna what are you gonna tell oh he's shilling his book no thankfully thankfully alex ends up not being able to control itself good and mr potato head

there we go now we're sitting up there literally acting like this is all made up i have a stack of articles about the internment camps it's all over the world it's happening it's everywhere they're putting people in them and now they want to bring putting us in the camps the quote quarantine camps 12 states have bills washington states already implemented they're announced they're going to deputize anyone they want in the government to quote take children away from the unvaccinated that's in the health department announcements by the state of washington mr super potato head and you think people are so stupid they can't go look it up here brian let me show you some of these

i just couldn't do it couldn't do it i think it is admirable the effort that he made though he really did try he went pretty deep into it uh for him especially i mean he even went all the way so far as to say oh they oh showing his book like showing his dick you can almost feel alex kicking himself at the beginning of the clip though knowing that he'd essentially failed his own self-assigned test when he calls him mr potato head there's a pause as for the stacks of news alex has about camps he's leading with lying about the washington state story that we've already discussed so he's going to need to do better than that the fact that that was his go to as a pretty strong indication that the stack is probably just printed out memes and tweets i guess he's going to get

into this stacky though so let's uh let's go ahead and see what we can learn it just says mr potato head three hundred times mr super potato head this is nonsense stilter blast fox glenn bick for false covet story oh it's false huh interim occupational consideration for implementation of the shielding approach to prevent covet 19 infections in humanitarian settings and this is exactly what is in the legislation and exactly what's been implemented outside of it with an emergency order by the governor of washington it's not a conspiracy theory it's on local news they're building all these giant facilities and they built them all over the world this is all bullshit yeah so alex is making up that part about the washington bill that's still

just about the updating of the language that we discussed earlier but he's pretty committed to covering for tuckers negligence so he's got to try and make that segment look defensible as for this other document i believe that this is what alex was referring to a couple episodes back when he said that the cdc had documents about wanting to create internment camps for the unvaccinated and i was like what the fuck is he talking about yeah that would i think it's this okay the first words that really jump out to you when you hear the title of this document though are humanitarian setting that should tell you a little bit about the context of this document and how it's about strategies that could be explored to limit the spread of covet in settings like camps for displaced

persons and refugees now the title itself might make you think that this was a document that laid out plans but it actually didn't instead it discussed the pros and cons of exploring a specific strategy the shielding approach and it sought to explore possible challenges that one would have in implementing this sure the shielding approach was basically a plan where you would have areas in these places like refugee camps that would be isolated from the larger camp and what you would do is you'd put people who are at a higher risk of developing serious covet cases there as a way of shielding them and this could be done on various scales it could be done within a household even if you just had a part of the house sure you know yeah this is what is discussed in the document yeah

it would also it would be a mistake to assume that this document thinks that it's a great idea to use the strategy also quote in theory shielding may serve its objective to protect high risk populations from disease and death however implementation of the approach necessitates strict adherence to protocol inadvertent introduction of the virus into a green zone may result in rapid transmission among the most vulnerable populations this approach is trying to protect so this is a very essential problem right with the the strategy that is called out yeah if you read the actual entire document you come away with a sense that the cdc is saying that this approach may work but there's no empirical evidence that it will and that the challenges and downsides are pretty real

take this passage from the summary quote public health not only focuses on the eradication of disease but addresses the entire spectrum of health and well-being populations displaced due to natural disasters or war and and conflict are already fragile and have experienced increased mental physical and or emotional trauma while the shielding approach is not meant to be coercive it may appear forced or be misunderstood in humanitarian settings as with many community interventions meant to decrease gov 19 morbidity and mortality compliance and behavior change are the primary rate limiting steps and may be driven by social and emotional factors these changes are difficult in in developed stable settings thus they may be particularly challenging

in humanitarian settings which bring their own set of multifaceted challenges that need to be taken into account okay it doesn't seem like they're saying do this no no this isn't about the creation of any camps or taking unvaccinated people to camps it's about how best to serve folks who are in humanitarian settings already jade fulsey the cdc public affairs specialist told fact check that the document itself was only prepared as a response to a paper in the london that came out from the london school of hygiene and tropical medicine that argued in favor of the shielding approach so in response to that they did an analysis of this and yeah also this was primarily an analysis that the cdc did cdc did as a resource for other countries who have larger populations

of displaced persons in camps where this question was a much higher priority all the stuff alex is saying here is bullshit like none of this has any connection to reality although the title of the document if you ignore the what it is everything um if you ignore the everything right and even the title doesn't really work because it has humanitarian settings in it and like i don't i guess it sounds scary though okay here's my pitch all right right my pitch is we do set up camps all right but we make them so nice like the best like ropes courses no everything ziplines the whole thing the fucking really great water every access to all the food but if they have if they have the water then they have to have that giant inflatable thing where you can lay on the end

and your friend jumps off something and you go flying yeah absolutely that's all in there that's all in there one roller coaster maybe two i don't know i'm getting ahead of myself on that one i might have to budgetary restraints might have to be difficult but but the point is we make it so nice eventually everybody in the camps realizes that the real camp is the united states whoa yeah isn't that deep so there's gonna be hallucinogens at this camp okay so alex has a more in his stacky to get to because that was a whiff fema documents describe large-scale rural isolation and quarantine operations how to recruit obedient americans to help round up the centers this is now coming out in fema documents look it up so i did alex is reading this headline from mike adam's site

natural news look it up it's written by a guy named ethan huff but i got to think that that's a byline name that multiple people are writing under because otherwise holy shit this guy cranks it out prolific yes but like ten a day blog posts if that was ethan hawk's pen name perfect so this blog post was really just a reposting of something from another blog written by a guy named steve roder one day steve was poking around on the website of the rural domestic preparedness consortium organization which is a federal organization that helps train people in rural and tribal communities how to respond in cases of emergencies like natural disasters this is a great program in no small part because it helps these communities have autonomy and not rely solely

on the more developed resources of neighboring more urban areas as they point out areas with smaller populations will likely not have the tax base that would be required to staff public safety agencies so the rdpc helps train folks for free to help their communities right the rdpc offers constant training opportunities in both in-person contexts when available and on their website in virtual classrooms steve was cruising around their website and found a training course available titled mgt 433 isolation and quarantine for rural communities he misinterpreted the context of the organization and decided to conclude that this was a new course or that it was somehow related to kovat but that's not the case it's important to understand that a lot of the courses

that the rdpc offers are facilitated through universities and the course that steve is up in arms about is one that's offered by eastern kentucky university you can find it existing as a course offered in conjunction with the rdpc since years before kovat was even a thing it's actually slightly unclear to me but based on their current website it seems like eku handles some other courses at this point and the quarantine class is now done by the northwest arkansas community college just for the sake of clarity the syllabus for the courses available on the rdpc website and explain some of the class some of the stuff it does involves things like quote legal and ethical considerations of isolation and quarantine as a class might you know it's getting into the the

relevant details yeah this becomes important because what steve has done for his blog post is that he's gone into the course module and selectively taken screenshots that he can use to make them look sinister there you go he takes a page that discusses the differences in legal and ethical considerations you have involuntary versus involuntary quarantine situations to imply that this is about getting people to comply because they point out that involuntary quarantines are more taxing on resources and much more complicated regarding human rights issues where it just dealing with that is a descriptive reality is is being represented as like yeah we've got to coerce people to do this voluntarily we're gonna trick them yeah i mean it's it is it is like the far

right has this this i don't know if it's coordinated but it feels like it is where they find the most innocuous just good ideas just like hey here's what we're gonna do we're gonna help people learn how to respond to emergencies nothing beyond that there's no there's no nefarious element to this at all and then they go and find like something that they can turn nefarious yeah like it's just yeah this is just so benign but it's because it's it has utility for the larger arguments that they want totally totally and it's a good strategy it's working if you thought that was bad worse is his handling of a slide about how responders need to respect people's privacy he acts like it's somehow about being sneaky but it's clear from the slide that it's it's

discussing concern about how stigmatizing illnesses or potential illnesses can be inside a community so you shouldn't advertise to the neighborhood that someone might be sick that's what the slide is about um no i thought you were supposed to get pitches pitchforks torches steve's post is written in in such a way that it could be a perfect jump off point for a shitty blog like natural news to twist the story even further from their post regarding the need for privacy quote as the emergency responders haul their victims off to camps the rdpc encourages them to be as discreet as possible in order to keep the ordeal as much under wraps as possible you see how this goes i mean wild so the rdpc training course is something that has been offered for years and was

never noticed until it became useful to push a covet conspiracy and you can see the consistent pattern in bullshit dissemination on full display the training course is benign and a helpful resource that's provided to rural and tribal communities steve rates a horrible blog post misrepresenting it which in then is in turn is picked up and further sensationalized by natural news alex then reports on the headline that natural news put on the article and makes up a story about what he wants it to mean this pipeline is very consistent alex can pretend to have the deep sources that he has all he wants but really he just has stacks of printed out pages of bullshit blog posts that don't have anything to do with the reality of what underlies the bullshit

that he's talking about it's just i get i grow frustrated with this clearly traceable path yeah what a fun way to view the world that the government is coming to take people away when they're sick and to be kind they have a training module that makes sure they know to keep it quiet right so you don't mess up with anybody's privacy well i mean that's really nice of them but that's just uh you know that's uh a cover-up thing what kind of insane person would look at a fucking slide and be like well obviously they're training people to keep it quiet when they abduct them a very insane person that would be crazy so alex has another piece in his stacky two strikes so far okay but here's the worst part it's a town hall article linked to rasmussen national poll

48 percent of democrats want to put anyone that hasn't had the shot in a camp 30 percent let me show you want to take people's children that haven't had it i mean go read it for yourself i covered this for an hour last night on the sunday show so alex has two strikes from the last two clips and i gotta say he saves himself from striking out by getting a ball on this one it's not good but it's all right not a strike so we're one and two i'm gonna skip that town hall post to just go straight to the rasmussen uh data on this one and so there's a headline from january 13th uh on rasmussen quote covet 19 democratic voters support harsh measures against unvaccinated i gotta say that uh i don't think it means as much as alex wants it to but he's not too far off there's an

important distinction to make about what he's reporting though and what the actual survey says he's saying that 48 of democratic voters want to put anyone who doesn't get a vaccine in a camp but here's what the report actually says quote nearly half 48 of democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to find or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of existing covet 19 vaccines on social media television radio or in online or digital publications that's not for unvaccinated people it's for people who spread misinformation and also this is a bullshit question based on the way that it's worded oh yeah all you can tell from the result is that 48 a support possible fines or imprisonment but that's too broad of a question

to mean anything if all of these people actually just supported a fine the result could erroneously give the impression that they wanted to imprison people which wouldn't be reflective of their actual position this is a pretty elementary statistical uh information gathering fuck up and this question should never have been worded like this and it kind of taints the results of this report the question is do you think people who lie should get consequences right right but there's a massive difference in believing that people who lie about public health measures should be fined or they should be go to prison sure sure but i mean i'm saying that as the as a question that's my point right like your question is so over broad that 48 percent means fucking

nothing right i i do agree that people who maliciously lie to get people killed to get a fine or should get in some way punished for it i get it there should be a mechanism for a consequence yes yes so that said the survey also found quote 45 percent of democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a covet 19 vaccine so in some ways alex isn't totally lying about the spirit of what this survey says sure he just can't keep the details or the numbers straight right another interesting point is that if you look at the more detailed breakdown only 22 percent of democrats strongly support this idea while 33 percent strongly oppose it

overall it seems to me like there's greater opposition than support for this even among democrats sure as for the kids thing quote 29 percent of democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents custody of their children if parents refuse to take the covet 19 vaccine i'm not really sure that i agree with those 29 percent of democrats and also if you look at it the other way that means 71 percent are not in support of such a plan so take your pick on how you want to look at it sure also this isn't a question that's asking people about actual proposals this is a hypothetical question yeah overall though uh through the course of my time doing this show i've come to be a bit skeptical of results that i see from rasmussen but i do have

to give it up to alex that he's somewhat fairly reporting the results of this poll i'm not sure that the results of the poll mean anything nor do i think it helps his argument that the government is making camps to lock up the unvaccinated in terms of it being one of the three pieces of evidence he's provided to defend glenn beck and tuckers ridiculous segment from stelter's criticism yeah i don't even see how it's irrelevant i i mean and even then that question is so fucking stupid do you support what do you mean what does that even mean do you support taking somebody's kids away if they refuse to get vaccinated if they test positive get them to a hotel that's the same fucking thing you're not taking their kids away like what what they're

trying to say and it's such a fucking stupid question right right i think there are different ways that you could understand the question totally i still think that uh i think it's a bad idea i think that i would be with that 71 percent that is probably like totally i think that that causes more problems that it might it's not a good solution probably not no so alex has another another piece let's see if he strikes out uh kasey is at the bat as it were oh and here's another one utah's largest newspaper calls for unvaccinated and dirt or coney and lockdowns enforced by the national guard but read it for yourself oh kasey is struck out this is an editorial the paper isn't calling for anything this editorial isn't even calling for what alex claims

from the article quote were utah a truly civilized place the governor's next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago going as far as to deploy the national guard to ensure the people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed well anywhere it may be too late for that politically and medically i've noticed that the right wing and right wing media figures like alex in particular really have a convenient and i suspect intentional inability to understand the difference between an editorial and a piece of news or an official statement because he plays fast and loose with the distinction between those things alex can report an op-ed as if it was a demand being made by a newspaper which in turn

allows his audience to leap to unjustified conclusions i suspect he does that on purpose because it's really easy any day of the week you can scan through enough papers if you do you'll find something in an editorial to get mad about and to add to the laziness you can tell that based on the headline that alex reads he's not actually talking about the real editorial he's covering a zero hedge article that's mad about the editorial for him Jesus it's just bullshit it's meaningless anyway he struck out yeah but that doesn't stop him from claiming victory so cnn's got articles about oh look at europe they're getting smart look at australia lock everybody up this is what we need here and meanwhile skelter's on tv going i'll tell you

tucker carlson and glenn beck they're up there just making lies and look they're number one dick is number one on tv glenn beck's got the number one book oh it's crazy we tried to shut it alex jones and it's like we cut a starfish in pieces and it just grew more starfish that's right you little sack of filth you lying little piece of garbage it's quite an impression uh yeah i think alex has failed to make his point and he's also failed hi i like brian stelter i i don't know if this is true but i heard a rumor that brian stelter is in the new kingdom heart i think i've heard that too yeah hi cloud strife you've got to go solve some problems uh yeah alex's failed to cross the board um is uh dealing with the actual points failure uh is uh deciding not

to attack stelter also failed yeah this is really sad too like he's provided these specific citations that we've discussed here and i guess he thinks that's enough that he can declare victory but it isn't at all stelter central question was about the washington camp conspiracy and alex didn't demonstrate in any way that it was a real thing or that stelter was wrong he just flung around a bunch of headlines that he pulled from dishonest blogs to create the impression the camps were being made in some vague place somewhere or maybe the democrats supported them but point is he didn't even address the actual point in stelter's video but the point is that even when he's acting like he's trying alex's arguments are meaningless and impotent yeah nonsense stupid

yeah in the in the baseball metaphor it would be like if uh journeyman's second baseman struck out and then just started running to first base and celebrating and then threw his bat into the crowd and ran to second base it was screaming and everybody's like oh my god and then he got home and he declared a home run and that's how the rules of baseball work it does in the information war yep that is exactly how it works so here's how alex ends the segment yeah there it is bill watch the bill i will authorize a strike force to send unvaccinated to internment camps it's not rumor stelter i need your support need you to take these videos these articles and share them all i got you all you got me we're in a war together and we are the black sheep we're the tip of the

spear my god we're doing our most important work either so go to infowarstore.com while you still can before they swat team me and walk me in a gulag and help support us so he does end up talking about the washington thing almost as an afterthought and this is just a gateway pundit article about the same washington language update that we were talking about earlier the crack team of sleuths found this wording in the wac 246-100-040 quote a local health officer may invoke the powers of police officers sheriffs constables and other officers and employees of any political subdivisions within the jurisdiction of the health department to enforce immediately orders given to effectuate the purposes of this section in accordance with the provisions of blah blah blah other sections

and so they found this language and they assumed that it was something new or a new bill that is not the case it's been part of the statute since it passed in 2003 the whole thing is about the revisions that were made to remove stigmatizing language and it's not recent either like i said that substitute house bill 1551 passed in june 2020 this gateway pundit article is straight up stupid too it ends with this ominous line quote wac 246-100-040 was certified on october 25th 2019 months prior to the coronavirus outbreak in the united states that's suspicious the first case the first confirmed case of covid in the us was diagnosed in seattle on january 20th 2020 wrong florida steve pecanic right we all know that we all know that the implication is supposed to obviously

be that they passed this law where health officials get to be like cops just before the first cases of covid were diagnosed because they knew that covid was coming and then that the health people get to act like cops and put alex and his friends into fema camps this is just really bad work for a few reasons the first is that the language about health officials taking on police responsibilities was introduced in 2003 you see the larger set of permanent rules of the board of health predate that but in 2003 a large-scale revamp of the document was passed and this was part of one of the sections that was amended the second reason that this is stupid is because the claim that this rule was certified on october 25th 2019 is just based on the fact that the bottom of the page

that the on the website of the washington state legislature where they've posted this rule it says quote certified on october 25th 2019 but that doesn't mean that it was passed or even amended that day if you go and look up other documents from the washington state legislature you'll find that literally all of them include certified on october 25th 2019 at the bottom it's really hard for me to tell precisely what the deal is here because i don't work for the washington legislature but if i had to guess in october 2019 they went through a process of updating all the files that are posted online and the certification date reflects that like they added a new online portal that would change the most sense how documents are accessible yeah and so in order to do that

you have these listings of the the existing statutes and they are certified by the statute law committee right of the washington legislature right right right the idea that uh the the date involves anything related to when these statutes went on the book is dumb unless you think the state of washington established their department of commerce in october 2019 there's this unfortunate dynamic that's at play here and that is that if you're a reporter at the gateway pundit even the smallest amount of digging would puncture gigantic holes in your story the goal is to arrive at a predetermined conclusion then provide headlines for someone like alex or your parents on facebook to get mad about and spread to others hoping to anger them which in turn drives traffic

to your site and boosts ad revenue the best way to do that is to be lazy to not do any of that digging that would end up causing your story to fall apart if you see quote certified on october 25th 2019 on that page your work is done because your assumption fits the narrative but if you explore it more reality might not yeah you don't want to deal with that oh yeah yeah anyway my point is that alex hasn't proven that stelter was wrong and ultimately after all this i think he hasn't demonstrated that anything he's talking about is more than a rumor or a dumb conspiracy blog headline yeah it is a little bit like gateway pundit and the like all are like digging for oil right and it whatever pops out of the ground they're like stop digging we've hit oil and all they do

is hit sewer pipes absolutely yeah that's about right that's that's a fine metaphor for this shit work that's being done yep so uh we we get off the stelter tip that's basically his i do think he managed to insult him less but he still didn't didn't stick to his guns well it's very nice of you i'm still slightly less than you normally do so stelter business check okay now it's rogie time okay uh so roger stone it just is now battling covet uh but uh he he was on fire yesterday when i talked to him yesterday afternoon he had a few of him to come on uh today and i appreciate him coming on he has some big big announcements and and i got to say just for survival i've got to join him because i let him call me a russian agent i got spit on and coffee thrown on me and tea and

stuff and my kids attacked at school he's calling me a russian agent because that was bad enough but now now these publications are saying the same thing that oh jones is definitely involved jones is running it so i have a team of three lawyers here separate ones that are from my other cases we've got here they're drawing up the lawsuits right now as well we learned roger is simultaneously because we got to get him into court and show people you're not going to just sit up here and say that i wanted to go burn up or blow up the capital and and go to a super max prison and destroy the country why the hell would i want to do that i we had peaceful rallies all over the country and in dc our vint god hijacked i'm pissed i want to find out who was involved i have a

lead oh boy oh boy i know a whole crack team of people who are involved yeah he's a friend of yours i believe so anyway roger is uh he's decided that uh it's time he's going on the attack but roger stone joins us to talk about who he is going after uh here today roger stone thank you so much for joining us uh alex first of all it's great to be here and i guess right off the bat i want to thank the thousands of people around the country who have been praying for my recovery in what turned out to be a much more difficult struggle with coven 19 than i had expected um it is uh only by uh following a strict regimen of iver mecton uh and hydroxychloroquine and a vitamin regimen including vitamin c d uh queraton uh are the zinc particularly

and others and for the help of some truly truly gutsy courageous doctors that i can finally tell you that i am back to work and feeling normal again this doesn't quite match uh the way that alex was describing uh his case right earlier in the episode but but like i said i i think as we go through this we're gonna hear him talking a lot more slurry than usual and i don't know on the one hand he could be drunk uh but on the other hand it could be a neurological side effect there are he could have had like a mild stroke it wouldn't surprise me that is a regular thing and i don't want to make fun of that i i want to be as respectful as possible sure uh while still making fun of roger because he's a fucking asshole he's a fucking piece of shit it's a tough line to walk

and i hope we'll be able to stay on the right side yeah yeah yeah so roger uh this is the thing that went around twitter uh this is truly horrific uh and i had all of the worst symptoms the the fevers the sweats uh the cough the congestion the body aches the the mental fog tony fouchy and his red chinese common grads do superb job in the formulation of this bio weapon something just doesn't feel right like that doesn't like i know that those things can be bad side effects but that's kind of like the the generic list of yeah of side effects i don't i don't there's just something weird about this yeah this is off yeah i think it's probably just because it's roger i think it's because we're trained to be suspicious of everything he does yeah i mean it's you're just waiting for

if he was laying down bleeding from the skull i would walk up to him and i'd be expecting him to have a knife ready to stab me if i went and asked him if he was okay jelly yeah exactly it'd be like immediate like listen man i'm sorry you earned this this isn't me reacting in an inhumane way yeah your behavior throughout your life leads me to believe that that's marinara exactly yeah yeah yeah anyway um look uh he took the hydroxychloroquine uh and ivermectin and i'd saved him and that has made him uh really respect to joe rogan sure for take i think he's angling for a booking yeah so you're saying you know i've been obviously we talked about with doctors kind of this formula of success rogan expanded it and helped get it out to billions of people and that's helped save a lot

of lives absolutely and he knew they'd come after him but he did it i told people a year and a half ago joe was awake he's going to come after him and i told you folks and he did it uh look i don't know that all of his politics agree with all of mine but on this issue as well of course is on the issue of cannabis legalization i totally agree with him what he did was very courageous he knew they'd go after him he knew they'd try to shut him down uh but he did what was right i honestly think this man saved thousands and thousands and thousands of lives i think a little more than that i think this shows to save hundreds of thousands or millions he probably saved tens of millions whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa wow wow that's that's depressing being being fundamentally uh not

entirely but fundamentally at fault for the millions of people who have died uh and then saying that we've saved hundreds of thousands of lives is uh is a real tough pill for me to swallow yeah yeah it's yeah it's uh it sucks to hear yeah really fucks with my head really makes me mad yeah not good so uh roger in addition to declaring his victory over covet is on for another reason and that is to let people know he's about to sue everybody great there are irresponsible elements uh in the fake news media who are recycling this notion that i had either advanced notice or some involvement in the illegal acts of january 6th i spoke at two legally permitted events on january 6th i did have a voluntary security uh detail from the oathkeepers as did

all of the other speakers uh at that conference they were courtesy of those running the legally permitted events the fact that i came in contact with these individuals proves nothing the claim by let us take one right off the top bill palmer at the palmer report mr palmer is going to be sued for ten million dollars what defamation in the california courts so i think it's actually more suspicious that the bodyguard was volunteer and uh that every one who has high profile had an oathkeeper with them that doesn't say what i thought he thinks it said it feels a little more he was like oh see everybody had one that's fine right everyone had somebody connected to the central hub what's going on is everyone was involved with the conspiracy to wait no that's

not what i meant no i mean i i don't know what he hopes to achieve with that bit of information but also the bodyguard he had wasn't just any oathkeeper like we said on the last episode it was mike whip simmonds steward's operations leader that may not prove any real guilt on roger's part but it does explain why people have questions for him that they want answered also again whip hasn't been indicted or named in any of the indictments yet which probably isn't a great sign to these guys smart move though to shift the narrative towards suing people for saying things you don't like because these guys are free speech warriors yeah they love free speech so much they're gonna sue media figures you know i think that's fascinating i would like for roger to sue me for defamation

well i because i think my simple argument boop i have to separate myself from you because i don't want the headache no i understand that i don't endorse anything that jordan may be about to really feel like it's not possible like because you it's it's about defaming one's character and the damage is from there in defame defamation well i also and i don't think that's possible with roger you can make that that argument i don't know if that would hold up in court but you could also make the argument that roger's a public figure sure absolutely so the standards for defamation are insanely high insanely high but again even i just don't think it's possible i think there's i think he's roger globally horrible things about himself globally i'm rat

fucker well and he's talked constantly about how he plays up that image of him as a villain or whatever which would tend to i don't know i do think i think defaming roger would be hard i think it would be real tough i think i i don't know if anybody has up till this point and but bill palmer apparently better get his good luck fucking checkbook ready good luck in court bill bring your checkbook in your case i have so many counts of defamation the number will probably end up being much larger because you haven't been cautious you haven't speculated that roger stones a russian spy which of course also would make it not true but as senior fbi officials confirm to the Reuters news service the fbi found no evidence whatsoever that roger stone or alex

jones was involved in a conspiracy to commit any illegal act on january 6 so mr palmer it's your turn produce your proof to the contrary produce your witnesses to the contrary there are none you're going to be writing a huge check mr palmer i for one can't wait i don't think that roger understands that he's a public figure and in order to make this case fly he's gonna need to establish actual malice on bill palmer's part which i don't think he can do it just seems to me like what's going on here is that like roger wants to get that old manly blood pumping again oh yeah he's been out of the threatening people game for a while so now i think he's getting a little over zealous and making a comeback you know he had to he had to be a little bit more like cautious when he was

waiting for the for the pardon exactly yeah he had to lay low for a while and afterwards he had to have that whole penitent i've found god right and now he can go back to being a real shithead real piece of shit who threatens people yeah it's about time yeah we've all just been waiting for it so it's kind of fun so let me put any journalist who wants to go step up right on notice if you accuse me of being involved in any illegal activity on january first sixth in washington dc you will be met with a lawsuit if in the past you have accused me of being a russian trader you will also be faced with a lawsuit so lawyer up liberals i'm not turning the other cheek glad to see that that reform i've learned from from my faith right to take the things that jesus

himself directly said and say i won't do those my faith i follow the lord my faith because i was saved with a pardon just it made me find god in the most sincere way i will not turn the other cheek i will sue you you fuck what i've found is most important about faith is when it conflicts with what you want to do your faith actually says it's okay for you to do that yeah yeah that's that's how it works the gospel according to roger true strength is when you need something believing in faith and then when you don't need it throwing it away yeah so alex kind of is a little bit self-conscious i think he's aware that um the audience might be like guys you're talking about this shit all the time it's getting a little boring for a lot of our listeners they say alex

we know you guys didn't attack the capital we know we're tired of it but the democrats are running on january 6 and saying all their opposition are terrorist and literally trying to say we're kingpin mastermind terrorist people need to know that this is a serious issue and and tucker carlsson gets it uh so many other people get this now tulsi gabard's that this is a big issue even mitch mcconnell says they're trying to brand the republican party as terrorist and run on that so this is a big big problem we need to stand up to this you're absolutely right tulsi gabards and mitch mcconnell hey when you got the two of them together that's the most bipartisan thing i've ever heard yeah so this doesn't actually feel to me like what super innocent people do this strikes

me as a weird move to threaten massive lawsuits against journalists who say things that you don't like because from where i'm sitting it just looks like an attempted intimidation roger suits aren't going to go anywhere and somebody writing an article about roger possibly being in trouble that is no actual bearing on whether or not he's actually going to get in trouble there's no real world consequence to i don't know this just feels like a performance geared at centering roger and alex as the victims in the whole thing and it hopefully makes people afraid to put pieces together as it results to uh as it relates to connections right between people who are at the capital on six right right just trying to sort of chill people's uh uh desire to cover these stories yeah

and it's a fear that roger is going to uh sue them yeah and it's that that uh a false confidence you know like whenever steward came on knowing what we know now when he came on and just started lying through his teeth about how they were all fucking giving medical aid and shit like that yeah like that's that's where we're at like hey how dare you say that i had anything to do with the sixth i'll sue you cut to six months from well i mean steward was even threatening to sue uh pete santilly exactly but it was about him being called the fed but it still has the same sort of effect like it's shifting the discussion into like you going on the attack and and what have you and it's i i don't know it just doesn't feel sincere it's not no so this struck me as a

little weird well i talked to roger about a week ago and he could barely talk and he said man i really hope i make i've never been this sick i said i know i got delta that's probably what he got there's delta and uh i'm a crown going around and it felt like a gorilla was on my chest for two weeks almost killed my dad my dad has bounced back 90 but mentally he's still not where he was towards glad roger didn't die this is a very serious bio weapon they scanned it two years ago and they knew it was a bio weapon fouchi made it that's all come out in court that's a whole other subject i want to hit a little bit in the next segment of wait wait wait fouchi made it and that's come out in court yeah court okay the court of heaven the court of public opinion

specifically on alex's show that would be that would be most likely the court i just i like that clip a lot because alex is talking about how he got govid and it was like a gorilla was on his chest but the way he's saying it he says uh you know i felt like i had a gorilla on my chest for two weeks almost killed my dad yeah it makes it sound like he's saying that he almost killed his dad or the gorilla on his chest almost killed exactly there's a ton of interpretations based on uh lou speaking that are fun yeah yeah that is nice anyway i would like to see this court case i would like to see a gorilla on alex's chest so i don't i don't know if you you know like this was martin luther king day martin the junior day yeah so i'm sure we're going to quote him

no not so much but roger's gonna tell a little story oh no here by the way is a little historical fact that i think your your uh listeners might need to know today is dr martin luther king junior's birthday what people don't know is that upon the murder of king every politician aspiring to be president headed to atlanta to get a photo op with uh with caretta king teddy kennedy senator jean eugene mccarthy bobby kennedy dick clark frank church and others one man asked to see caretta king privately that was former president richard nixon he flew to atlanta and got a private audience with caretta king i'm sorry i killed her he gave her an envelope with a check that paid for the entire college educations of all of her remaining children

he also did not want that information publicly released richard millhouse nixon so the rogers actually even says like on this day when we remember martin luther king we should also remember what great things nixon did like this giving them a check so this seemed like a weird list at first when he's talking about those politicians because he says dick clark but he's not talking about the entertainer no i i i got there in my head but immediately i was like oh is the ball dropping there was a politician who was elected to the senate in 1972 and before that he was a he was an assistant to john culver a us representative from iowa named dick clark so the story that roger is telling is one that was passed on by a king family friend named uh zernona clayton but other

folks are not so convinced that this actually happened for one there's no evidence of this check and if it did exist it was never cashed secondly nixon aide dwight chappan told the daily beast quote it's like i'm a hundred percent certain he would never give her an envelope there's too much open to interpretation and wrong interpretation to do that if you think about it the though it would be a very nice gesture from human to human when it's nixon and mlk's widow the dynamics are a little murky another thing that's important to point out is that according to other nixon aides this meeting with king was not really something that nixon wanted to stay a secret quote nixon's visit with miss king was off the record but that evening in key bisque nixon wanted to know how it

was playing chappan reminded him that it was off the record nixon had expected news of the meeting would leak and was furious when told it had not so nick ru another nixon aide called atlanta radio stations to tip them off that nixon had been seen at the king home but when reporters called the house no one would confirm the visit according to these aides going to visit miss king was away for nixon to get out of having to go to the funeral because he didn't want to great and it didn't work he still had to go to the funeral there we go i don't know what the reality is here but i kind of think that the point about nixon not giving king an envelope because it would be widely open to interpretation that makes more sense uh that like with the other facts of reality that that i factor in i'm not

sure you know i i don't know it's possible that he gave or something or another point that i saw brought up that was interesting was that nixon was friends with uh martin luther king senior the two of them were on friendly terms and so so i think it was chappan uh was suggesting that like i could see a possibility where he asked martin luther king's father if the kids were taken care of sure if there was a college fund for them sure that kind of an exchange i could see happening but the idea of giving this envelope seems like something he never would do yeah you know uh i mean this is a good tidbit uh i'm gonna throw this out there doesn't change my opinion of nixon sure does not affect it even a little bit well look i'm just saying from roger's perspective right whenever you

remember martin luther king you must remember nixon it is martin luther king jr's birthday and also the anniversary of richard nixon showing that he is just as good of a person as martin luther king jr according to roger maybe better that is exactly the case he has a tattoo of nixon on his back not martin luther king no shit yeah so anyway alex has some thoughts about the i have a dream speech we can't pretend to be viewers amazing footage from that famous i have a dream speech it wasn't terrorism when he got hundreds of thousands of people are more to march there for voting rights act for civil rights and it wasn't terror when we wanted to have the investigation of what was really happening when the election is democrats that asked for four

years before that's in the constitution oh man i guess there must be some kind of real important difference between what happened during the 1963 civil rights march and what happened on january 6th i wonder if there was a difference i might be grasping at straws here but in 1963 no one stormed the capital no one no one not even a few it seems like a really important difference that alex is just ignoring if trump and all of his followers had just hung out outside the capital in the areas that they had permits for and waived signs enchanted we'd probably not even remember the date january 6th at this point it would just be another impotent protest fueled by misinformation alex wants to pretend that the man wants to arrest everyone who is there but that's not true that's

his false straw man that he's created the people who are being arrested are people who committed crimes also if alex thinks that no one criticized the march on washington for jobs and freedom oh boy he should look into his own history and see what the john birch society was saying about it uh there was a book uh called the world of the john birch society and they discussed the response to the march quote the john birch society's response to these developments was both to considerably increase the amount of time and attention it devoted to the question of black civil rights and to frame the issue within the organization's broader conspiratorial understanding of communism's determination to take over the united states the progenitors of alex's entire world view

were at the time of the i have a dream speech that alex professes to love so much attacking king as part of a secret communist plot to overthrow the united states which by extension would mean that the march on washington was secretly a communist march attempting to overthrow the united states yeah there would be that it's fun for alex to pretend that everyone supported king in 1963 but the reality is that if he'd been around back then at least half of his show would be him reading bullshit headlines about how king was working for the communist chinese yep to destabilize america it's all just nonsense it can't even possibly project himself back to that time and realize what a dick he would have been um i'm i mean unreal yeah and still is yep now roger

i think this is unfortunate this is dumb of him those who say question the reelected results is treason we look at their own actions when they got beat by george w bush everything they they're accusing us of is exactly what they did let's talk about getting beat well real quick there isn't a problem with questioning election results particularly very close election results if that was all that folks like alex and trump were doing then we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now they didn't question anything they said definitively that the election was stolen and the trump won which is a crime against all americans and people needed to stand up against the steel and the cover-up of it even roger stupid ass was saying on info wars that north korean

boats full of ballots were arriving in main to steal the election he did say that it's bullshit to compare this at all to the response to the 2000 election when the supreme court essentially decided the election and then gore gracefully conceded also roger should probably pump the damn brakes here considering his involvement in the 2000 election and how he essentially facilitated a false flag to get counting of votes stopped in florida and how that is mysterious parallels to the january sixth thing and he probably would threaten to sue me for bringing this up but uh it's important for those who weren't around back then the 2000 election hung in the balance depending on who won florida where the results were ridiculously close a recount

had been underway and then on november 22nd 2000 republican protesters showed up at the miami date county canvassing boards recount location and intimidated the officials there with loud accusations that they were stealing people's ballots and also physical actions joe galler was then the democratic party chairman for the county and he was on hand that day quote this one guy was tripping me and pushing me and kicking me recalled galler who is now a state legislature at one point i thought if they knocked me over i could have literally got stopped to death the miami date recount ended that day and eventually bush was certified as the winner by 537 votes on november 28th with this recount as well as the one in palm beach county never actually being

finished this went back and forth in the courts and we all know how it ended it went great in 2008 roger stone told the new yorker that he had essentially been running the operation uh which sent in these protesters who were actually just gop staffers into the recount locations to get it shut down quote i set up my command center there i had walkie talkies and cell phones and i was in touch with our people in the building our whole idea was to shut the recount down and that's why we were there another gop strategist brad blakeman also takes credit for running the event but stone insists he was him who was responsible for causing a staged uprising that was intended to disrupt the carrying out of the election for the purposes of installing his preferred candidate

george w bush if i were roger i would simply not bring up the 2000 election since doing so has the potential to remind people that he was deeply involved in an event that's weirdly similar to the events of the sixth back in 2000 kind of should shut up about that roger but i mean that's that's serial killer shit they always show up and they all want to be smarter than the the cops they all want to i've watched true crime shit before psychopaths show up and they're like you'll never catch me and they like to drop hints that they did it yeah i want to be given credit for but they don't want consequences for i'm not saying that roger orchestrated anything on the sixth i'm i'm i'm just saying that his actions in 2000 no that's what i'm saying could be part of a pattern

yeah yeah yeah no he's bragging yeah every time he brings up the 2000 election as something that went well he's bragging about how he made it happen so uh we get to we get to talking to some other issues uh with roger because it can't all be lawsuits and and martin lew the king no um it uh he also wants to talk about you know like trump what's going on with trump sure so i was talking to roger yesterday who really likes the president respecting but we'll behind the scene say yeah i wish you'd do better here or there i've really never heard roger so upset as he was with with with uh trump yesterday and i said well you talk about this on air and he said well yeah i've been i'll talk about most of it but we're really just worried about trump and um let's just say this

he's not aging well and i don't mean physically i mean he's not going in a good direction oh no is someone poisoning his diet coax again i guess i guess now he's too feeble in the mind and yeah so roger's main point is that he takes issue with endorsements that trump is making he's not endorsing the right candidates and some of his critiques come off a little racist what perplexes me are some of his endorsements he endorsed congress mario ds billard of miami donald trump wouldn't know mario ds billard from the frito bandito i don't think i don't i don't think he'd say that if it wasn't an hispanic person oh boy that said trump endorsed ds billard because he was one of the members of the house of representatives that joined in on the lawsuit texas versus pennsylvania

which was about trying to undermine 2020 election results it seems like trump is going to be willing to endorse anyone who subscribes the idea that he actually won the election and this guy is in that in that club it's how the mob works yeah yeah so there's there's a couple other people that he takes issue with but then it gets to another hispanic person and boy oof let's take anna polina luna there is no such person anna polina luna is not hispanic she uh ran for congress using a picture of her with an assault weapon wearing military fatigues and she said quote until you have spilled blood for this country you can't understand the fight for freedom anna polina luna never served in combat and her stint in the air force was not 16 years it was six months

so she should replace senator blumenthal's senate seat yeah i know she would be perfect with with luna i have no idea what roger's going on about this conversation makes no sense he's attacking luna as a bad candidate and then alex says that she'd be good to replace senator blumenthal and roger says yes this is so convoluted because luna is running for the gop primary to represent florida's 13th district in the house of representatives meanwhile richard blumenthal is a senator from connecticut these two people have no direct connection and their election her election wouldn't replace blumenthal in any way luna's up against a stacked field of four other candidates in the in the primary and then even if she won she'd be facing charlie christ for in the general

election right who already beat her in 2020 53 to 47 it's really exciting to see that we're back in the arguing about gop primaries season on info wars it's always so fun because alex gets to bring in complete lunatics who have zero chance of winning and he tries to pretend that they're way up in the polls seems like roger's just hyper focused on local races in florida though which is good because you know you know think locally keep them there keep them there but i don't know if this matters to alex's audience and i sense a little bit of a bit of racism going through this it does feel like an old racist man talking about local politics you could just write a letter to your local and this stuff about her military service i mean like whatever i don't know what the reality

is but if you're going to take issue with this you got a lot of people with stolen valor i mean your ranks that you need to work out start from the top and then go down and we'll see how long it takes you to get to her yeah yeah i think she's a small issue compared to some of these other weirdos yeah so anyway alex sees a picture of this anapalina luna and uh oh now we're going to get real racist oh boy big big big future news coming about her well she is attractive what is she said again please she is attractive if she's not hispanic what is she well it's an excellent question her last name is myerhofer that's her real name it's on her driver's license she is not hispanic yeah that's a weird question that's not a good question at all gross question that's a creepy

question so i'm not even gonna descend into this like very clear racist signaling and try and discuss this but i will say that just because luna's birth name is ana myerhofer that is her father's surname that doesn't mean their mother may not have been entirely of hispanic descent it seems like rogers is pulling its straws very racist straws very racist straws so luna luna was popular because she was supposed to be something like the gop trump world version of aoc and it just didn't work out charlie kirk initially recruited her to do hispanic outreach for turning point and this led her to get the itch to run for office which she did unsuccessfully in 2020 this cycle is repeating now and i guess trump is supporting her as he did in 2020 and rogers racistically

pissed off about this wow cool that's just well you said she wasn't hispanic so what is she that's the answer is person right the answer is she is a person she's a person just like you and me we're all people man yeah yeah that yeah that indicates such a bizarre train of thought on alex's part i know like hold on before i can even begin to discuss her before i can begin to discuss her as a human being i must first know her genealogy yeah yeah yeah and there's also like this strange vibe of like she's trying to trick you yeah yeah hey listen g.o.p voters this person is it actually hispanic the thing wait no are you are we against um it's very confusing yeah so anyway i was thinking about this uh because a lot of i cut out some of the redundancies but a lot of rogers appearance

is threatening to sue people sure he's gonna sue everybody he's got a lot of suing everybody's going down yeah it's time i expect us to get served at some point i can't wait um but uh i kind of figured out what this was about but alex this is a change for me i'm tired of being on defense i'm have tired of having to come on our an info wars and beg for people to support my legal defense to defend myself now help me go on the attack now help me go after these people drag these main g unbays disgusting leftists into a courtroom and sue them and make them pay for what they have done oh my god it's a little too overt it's a little too obvious the it wasn't paying the bills people weren't excited about the legal defense funds anymore so you try and rile people up and get

them excited promising that you're gonna take these dirty leftists to court and make them pay then try and like amp up the donations that way and it doesn't matter when those cases never happen doesn't matter and won't be successful already got the money did right just trying to fundraise off the idea that you're gonna sue people it's kind of pathetic and uh exactly what i would expect from someone like roger it's a fucking sequel yeah if you enjoyed paying for my legal defense wait until you pay for my legal offense oh and it's also more natural territory for roger because he you know his whole thing is like always be yeah always never be defending yourself and uh i think that he's had to uh because the consequences of him not doing so would be pretty

high real bad so now he's getting back into the territory in the water as he's used to swimming in i mean he's hoping he can make uh some money that's the problem whenever one of your whack-a-mole finds a new little hole you know it feels safe enough to pop back out again and you're just uh so i i felt exhausted by this point this episode yeah we had the stelter drama we have roger getting covid and suing everybody right and being a weirdo right being a racist weirdo racist piece of shit and i wasn't ready for this we just got it for two segments i really appreciate him coming on i saw jimmy kimmel attacking him with an actor pretending that michael indela been put in prison because he was questioning the election uh that's their big push oh god michael indel's on i thought

he was dead no what happened to him oh michael indel isn't there and it hasn't he done enough drugs to just knock him out for a while at least i am i am flabbergasted by the meaninglessness of this episode and how chock full it is of of of dangerous weirdos amazing so anyway michael indel has a complaint that is that his bank doesn't want to work with him anymore um and yeah man and so you got to tell your friends you guys you go out there you might have a hundred friends or 500 friends or 5000 whatever you got you email them and you and you uh call them and you do this on a daily base and tell them the real news that's going on the stuff that we all need to hear about that you're not hearing on your terrible news outlet fox news uh because they don't talk about anything

that's going on they're not going to tell you that my that the bank uh have canceled me you know wouldn't that be news that a company you know and the charity and a network that's helping addicts if the bank wants to cancel them that should be headlines on fox news so michael you might want to take a minute and reflect on the fact that fox news isn't providing the coverage that he wants because he's no longer a major source of their ad revenue if he thought about this for a while you might realize that no one really cares that much about the nonsense he spews it's just in your financial interest to humor mike when he's paying you a bunch of money yeah he's here spreading the message he wants to on info wars because he's a sponsor like back in the day marty shactor could

come on and do fucking limericks yep now you got your time mike can do whatever he wants he's a sponsor alex can't be mad at him so he gets to come on and complain about the bank not wanting to work with him anymore funny so it's it's sad let that be a lesson to all of us never get addicted to the attention right you know right he's clearly addicted to it and and never allow yourself to be deluded into thinking that time that you're paying for yeah anything that's happening in that is indicative of people's real response yeah yeah like paying for ad time and then uh just bizarrely all of a sudden really being validated by how seriously fox news takes your complaints yeah don't take that seriously yeah you'll get lulled into a point where you think that there's more

meaning to your shit than there is and you learn the hard way that when you stop being one of their main advertisers yeah all of a sudden they don't seem to care about your bullshit that much it's so weird yeah so weird it's almost like if julia roberts had left richard gear at the end of the movie because their financial transaction had been completed are you talking about runaway bride exactly yeah spiritual sequel so anyway alex wants to talk about hitler a little that's how the left plans with a social credit score to impoverish us and take control of us this is what hitler first did when he got in power the first five years was take his political enemies banking away and then you know what happened next this is really dangerous it's nuts to listen to

so much of this show because when i because i do i start picking up on trends that might be subtle to casual listeners for instance alex always says that whatever he's trying to build a narrative about was actually the first thing hitler did this is meant to lead the the listener to the conclusion that if this thing alex is yelling about is allowed to stand then we're gonna progress to the subsequent things that hitler did here we see alex saying that the first thing hitler did was take away his enemies banking and ability to do business and that's because he's talking to mike lindell who wants to complain about his bank account right however in the past when he's been talking about gun grabbing narratives he's very insistent that the first thing hitler did

was take the guns this is really just a cheap trick alex is using to try and get his audience to think that his imaginary enemies are using the same model that hitler used regardless of what he's actually claiming they're doing yeah i mean it would be it then now and i don't know if this is possible but if there was like a document that hitler had on like day one like an executive order and then he just like laid out all of it you know like the whole nazi plan so then technically you could say that the first thing you did was everything sure you know sure i also think that it's kind of missing the point it could be missing the point regardless of what hitler did first second or third i do think it's missing the larger point yeah and i think alex might not care about

that point yeah so look i have an apology to make you should to michael indell oh no i i didn't realize take it back i didn't realize he's got the goods alex we have what they didn't what they deleted so this is gonna it's over i'm telling everybody when this comes out and it's coming out this month it is going to be game changer okay but our big goal is now and all the states by the way the four big swing states could pull their select they're all working on pulling their electors down they could that could still happen it could happen any day any day now states could pull down their electors and then trump will be president what what i'm sorry i i should have taken mike more seriously i can't i mean this guy i think the thing about mike though

is he has to believe that literally everyone around him is insane right i i think he has to because there's no way that you can really believe in your mind that you have definitive proof that trump is still the president and and be ignored even by fox news and shit well there's no way you can look at that rationally and think well obviously i'm the insane person i think some people are probably insane and then easier to rationalize as everyone else is in on it everyone else is true like fox news is now paid off right they did what i said when i paid them so someone else is just paying them more exactly you could easily use that but i think that requires self awareness yeah i don't get there but you could you could just say like soros is paying them to

to not take me seriously or something true true um but yeah i i can't imagine what it must be like to be in a space where you're like i have a definitive proof i mean it's the biggest news in the history of the world right i mean made a documentary about how the the information he had would make a nine zero supreme court case putting trump into power and it was so close yeah and now this month he's got even more proof of evidence and stuff and trump's gonna be president i appreciate his can do spirit it just keeps going it really doesn't boy it is annoying it is so fucking annoying so um mic mic's concerned about the the midterms of course because there's there's other ways people can vote oh in utah i was meeting with the utah officials there they did an experiment a pilot

program in the in 2020 in municipals in three different counties in utah you you emailed in your vote or you text in your vote did you hear that they emailed in their vote or text message their vote in so mic isn't being honest about the pilot program in utah you wouldn't text in or email in your vote what they were exploring was a broadening of a system that uses blockchain to allow users to vote uh using their smartphones with an online platform the way mic is describing it as reductive because he wants to belittle the idea and make it look like a clear plan to steal votes the bill that was passed in late 2020 just allows municipalities quote to choose to permit a voter to vote by electronic means approved by the municipality's election officer the utah county

clerk slash auditor told desert news that they've been using this function for the past five elections with no problem and that it has been particularly useful in allowing overseas voters like enlisted persons to vote with less hassle yeah so i'll just bullshit yeah upon reach for comment the government said surprisingly this one actually works no this is a good one this does uh look we're just as shocked as you that this works reach for comment the utah government said mic's gonna flip out on this one oh boy yeah so in case you were concerned about uh me not uh telling the truth about uh mic being a sponsor uh and closing because i need funding and you need funding we're both in the arena plus we've got great products we have promo code alex at

mypelo.com you have hundreds of amazing beds and slippers and shoes and sheets and towels they're all amazing yeah so he's a he's got an affiliate link got a promo code i just you know you want to live in a world where you don't have that juxtaposition right next to each other somebody being like i know the politics and i'm gonna get my president elected because everybody's cheating and also i sell towels and bedding and i sell everything it is a bit strange to just like zoom out and see that we have a pillow magnet uh on on a radio show promoting that trump could still become president yeah two years after the election like um to a guy who uh is a affiliate program with his pillow company yeah and is a insidious right wing uh conspiracist propagandist yeah

yeah i mean in a reasonable world everyone could just step back and be like well whatever that is is wrong i i've been wrestling with this i i i do think that at a certain point um i i obviously we can't really because we focus on these kinds of worlds and talk about this information space but i i honestly think that maybe there should be a blanket like people like mike lindell people like alex yeah people like roger don't even engage don't tweet about them whatever they're saying is not like mike's on here saying that uh the he's got the electors can still be brought within the next month this big news is going to come out yeah maybe don't even don't even engage with these claims yeah they're just people who they've cried wolf so many times that engaging

is is kind of pointless what are we doing yeah what are we doing we we're playing clips from 2003 that could have been today you know like what are we doing yeah so we got a little bit here at the end we've gotten through the sticky uh uh stackies the sticky stackies that are 2022 sticky stackies roger stone mike lindell stelter right um and now alex closes the show talking a little bit about a news story that is about jen sake the white house spokesperson talking about how russia they have information that russia is going to pull up a false flag to get into ukraine great there was this conversation that went on um and uh alex alex has a weird feeling about this okay okay let's go ahead and get to this this is a big deal video biden admin says russia is going to

carry out a false flag attack on itself to justify invading ukraine now i don't have any examples of russia staging false flags yes you do what what you absolutely do his entire early career fucking fuck me yeah he believed that uh putin did the apartment bombings of course the biggest false flag there is in russia that was something that alex was very very clear about until he wasn't until he decided putin was great you know the guy who runs everything yeah it's began on a false flag at least according to most of alex's career that is absolutely the case so he has a misinterpretation though of what sake is saying okay so i'm not saying the russians couldn't do this but from these liars like sake i don't believe what she says but there's the admissions that false flags exist

here she is we have information that indicates russia has already prepositioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern ukraine there's this interesting alex is insisting that this is like them it finally admitting that false flags exist and no one has ever said that false flags don't exist they just complain that alex thinks everything is a false flag the problem that i am experiencing right now is that i know that there have been russian false flags i know there have been united states false flags sure i know that even throughout history plenty of false flags have happened yeah right um the one time the one time that alex could just be like holy shit just anything just anything other than well i don't

think that there's actually that this is actually happening how dare you tell me that the government is false flagging a false flag true true i i agree with you i'm mostly more interested though in the pretending that people said they didn't exist no i that i and then finally jen sake is coming out and being like whoa the government is finally admitting it that's not the dynamic that's going on at all here oh boy uh very dumb but not as dumb as our last bit of i lied i lied there's more in the stackies okay there was something that was sticking to the to the to the stackies yeah so we got to peel that off real quick before we get out of here gotta go see our video about that on bandai video from the sunday show here's the column california should abolish parenthood in the

name of equity the name of equality and it goes on from there so my break and let this is the guy pushing it i mean this is the sabotage of humanity going on so this article is an editorial written by a guy named joe matthews titled quote california should abolish parenthood in the name of equity alex is reporting this as a serious suggestion but if he'd taken the time to read the article he would have seen that it's obviously satire joe brings up the inequalities in rich and poor families in terms of the ability to bring up children and then says quote my solution making raising your own children illegal is simple and while we wait for the legislation to pass we can act now the rich and poor should trade kids and homeowners might swap children with their homeless neighbors

now i recognize that some naysayers will dismiss such a policy as ghastly even totalitarian but my proposal is quite modest a fusion of traditional philosophy and today's most common political obsessions him saying that his proposal is quite modest should be an immediate tip off that he isn't being sincere i mean it would it's it's almost two on the nose yes although on the other hand even that isn't enough for people to not take it as satire yeah it's it's a little bit clunky if you're trying to have like literate like high literacy right right no no for an op-ed it's fine yeah the point that the author seems to be making is that the ultimate end result of many of the ideas that are pushed in the name of equality could lead to negative consequences like someone

actually having the idea of universal orphanhood the last line of this piece really sums that up quote but don't pay those critics any mind because they just can't see how our relentless pursuit of equity might birth a brave new world again on the nose woof anyway alex not only doesn't understand the difference between an editorial and a news story he also can't tell when articles are sincere or if they're satire because he doesn't read any of the stuff he reports on if all you know about the article here is the headline you'd report it like alex does because he's stupid and lazy and yeah he's reporting a satirical article as uh as real it's uh oh boy it's a bummer oh man this uh this i think you couldn't cram any more references in there i just i would have

there might have been this is uh this is a little swift jonathan i think we're having a little bit of a you know like just just really hammer it home make the make the lines and a cross stick to have it spell have it say a secret message along the side that'd be great have it um be bill thx 1138 yes absolutely so come to the end of this adventure and i think that just about everything was stupid but um some some real some real developments i mean roger uh apparently had covid and he's going to sue everybody everybody um michael indellas well as long as he has the money to do so and you're going to need to provide sure there's that michael indell is going to prove within the next month that uh the election is stolen yeah or well

he's going to need your money to do that well you better go buy pillows he might lose that money because he's also getting sued by smart medic and dominion yeah yeah um yeah alex can't control himself when he's trying to critique brian stelter no and all of the pieces of evidence the provides about anything is either complete bullshit or a satire article that he doesn't actually realize is uh fake but he didn't call me ugly this time oh no yes he did he called you mr super potato head hey mr super potato head isn't ugly he's got a very well proportioned body yeah i don't know so uh look we'll be back i wanted to do more i wanted to cover a couple episodes on this episode but i just couldn't do this too there's too much going on um and so we

will we will check in and see how alex is doing on monday but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep uh we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's ad knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan move it back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl rundas and now here comes the sex robots andy and chanzas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you