Knowledge Fight - #653: February 25, 2022

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to track Alex's shameful coverage of the invasion of Ukraine.  Also, the gents deconstruct how Alex's video about predicting the invasion last year is a manipulative li...e. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I'm a huge fan and I love your work knowledge fight knowledge fight I love you everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones oh indeed we are Dan what's hey Jordan Jordan quick question what's up what's your bright spot today my bright spot today is it's my turn horizon for Benton West right started playing it so good so good we were talking a little bit before we started recording and one of the things
Starting point is 00:01:22 that I was really questioning was whether or not it would live up to fairly high expectations that I totally and I'm not super far into the game but so far it has exceeded oh yeah those expectations which is which is surprising oh yeah so we have a no no spoilers policy right of course but yeah it's great I'm having a great time oh no the moment the moment you'd started I you texted me something about it and I texted you immediately back like I slid beneath the legs of a tyrannosaurus rex slow motion fired an electrical arrow and the thing blew up and it was the most satisfying experience I've had in so
Starting point is 00:01:58 long yeah they added some new mechanics yeah they're like really interesting it's great yeah a lot of fun it's good stuff whoo hey my bright spot is yesterday I got the chance to get together with my cousins who I haven't seen for a while even though they look very close mm-hmm and they have a new French Bulldog nice and it is so goddamn cute oh yeah anytime you see a new puppy and you get to hold it that's your bright spot for the day yeah I think so yeah I'm not a dog guy but even I can appreciate little puppies in the crook of my oh no it's too good I get it I get it yeah yep so Jordan today we got an episode to to
Starting point is 00:02:39 dive into okay we talked about Friday's episode all right February 25th 2022 all right but another thing that we're going to be doing is a deep deconstruction of the idea that Alex predicted this war oh okay we heard him I thought it was gonna be a tiramisu we were gonna split it up into its component parts maybe exchange one piece for foam so do some molecular yeah kind of okay but it's gonna be about Alex's bullshit gotcha so I'm very actually I'm excited to get into that the rest of the stuff not so much excited to get into right right but we will deal with it all on the other side of saying hello excellent new
Starting point is 00:03:16 walks that's a great idea so first Harry a thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks Harry a go next Rachel's infuriating breaky time thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much Rachel next I'm proud of you Dan and Jordan exclamation point thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you so much I go next Alex is a crooked up white boy with a little bit of swagger busting it down sexual style is he goaded with the sauce most definitely not thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you much next raised on
Starting point is 00:03:53 O'Reilly thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much and we got a technocrat up in the mix here Jordan oh thank you to the writers on the show have been teasing it for five damn years now when are these Dan and Jordan guys gonna finally get together thank you so much you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk I have risen above my enemies I might quit tomorrow actually I'm just gonna take a little break you down a little break for me and then we're going to come back and I'm gonna start the show over but I'm the devil fuck you fuck you I got plenty of words for you but at the end of the
Starting point is 00:04:36 day fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit maybe today's been my last broadcast I mean maybe I'll just be gone a month maybe five years maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again that's really what I want to do I never want to come back here again I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on here I'll be better tomorrow he's not are you sure yeah okay yeah I'm positive all right he's still we've had so many tomorrow's now right and you'd think that he couldn't be not better from the last time we saw
Starting point is 00:05:15 it was bad it was worse yeah that's bad his discussion and content in the lead up to Ukraine being invaded by Russia and his response immediately was bad shameful and I would say that today isn't better great yeah cool so here's an out-of-context drop from today's show Leo Zagami is way underrated that dude is the real deal I'll leave it at that I know what no I would agree with this from today yeah I would agree with him if he's talking about Leo's music yeah great way underrated underrated the real deal he had a good stretch there in the early thousands yeah I bet he in Giorgio hung out man he was the king of
Starting point is 00:05:57 the underground Roman techno good but yeah he's not the real deal about anything else well bummer so we start here at the beginning of the episode on February 25th and this is where we're going to dive immediately into the discussion about Alex's prediction right and here we go all hell has broken loose now a lot of people have asked how did I know in October November December this is coming and I told you how I knew that the ice melts at the end of February and the tanks would bog down so if Russia was going to invade they do it by the end of February and major financial individuals I talked to the
Starting point is 00:06:41 highest levels said get ready for war in February not just Russia but also China and I told you that so you could get ready and a lot of people just marvel and say how does he do it he must be a secret agent or or Jones must just make a lot of predictions and this one stuck no no I said for the last four months five months that it would come at the end of February that's what I said so one of the central pieces of Alex's coverage of the invasion of Ukraine has been about how he said that there was going to be a war by the end of February back in the fall to early winter of last year that's become a bit of a meme and you
Starting point is 00:07:21 can see people posting about Alex's remarkable prediction on Twitter and other message boards so I felt like a really good use of our time would be to really dig into this and see what Alex predicted and talk about why he's full of shit right on band.video Alex posted a video with the title quote watch Alex Jones predict war in Ukraine by February compilation this is on his own website but it's providing evidence of his prediction so this is what I'm going to base my discussion on right it's his own evidence exactly with the title watch Alex Jones predict war in Ukraine by February compilation done so
Starting point is 00:07:59 it is a compilation of a number of clips from different shows he did so I'm gonna deal with them one at a time none of this is selectively edited to remove anything from the compilation he posted these clips are going to be played exactly as they appear they're only separated by which show they're from right so this first clip here is from October 21st 2021 the smart money is on a war with China and I don't want a war but we're looking at a giant war in February right now currently that's the projections with the top people on the earth who claim they're not with the new order combine is war in February and
Starting point is 00:08:43 this is the type of time like right before World War one right before World War two when everything kicks off and I hope that doesn't happen but currently that is the trajectory we're on and there is a consensus on that and a large consensus I don't mean a consensus with people that just live here in Austin the new main power hub of the country I'm talking about all over the world we have contacts and general Flynn thinks war with China is imminent he was raised the alarm 10 years ago on that that's why they got mad at him so all the smart people I talked to say the same thing I'm seeing so the first obvious problem
Starting point is 00:09:31 with this clip is that Alex is predicting a war with China which hasn't happened I understand that this is his own evidence yes so he left the part in where he said this is gonna be war with China right that is a problem yeah so taken at face value this has nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine and that's a that's a problem for me yeah the second thing to note here is that while Alex is talking if you watch the video they flash up b-roll of a video of Rogan's podcast which doesn't make sense unless you know the larger context of where this clip came from when Alex mentions this new power center in Austin that's
Starting point is 00:10:07 because just before this clip Alex had to repeatedly and embarrassingly insist that he wasn't just talking about Rogan and the reason he had to do this is because these comments that he's making on the 21st are actually an extension of a story he told the day before which is from the 20th it's the evil can't help but it's got to go for the children so don't think this is the authority don't think it's gonna succeed don't think any of that because it will fail but probably in a giant war and we were all of a consensus that this is gonna end in just a gigantic massive war and and and Billions dead but I don't know that
Starting point is 00:10:45 consensus between those folks is public yet but I guess it's kind of here oh some other things too I learned some really interesting things but I've got a couch it certain ways so I'm not ready to talk about that at that time because I didn't just learn a lot from Joe and all the people he runs with you can probably imagine just the top of the structure and the none of them like it but I can just tell you Elon Musk what he tells Joe and that's not a secret it is he doesn't like what's going on so Alex has been out with Rogan the night before having some drinks along with Lex Friedman and Michael Malis the
Starting point is 00:11:24 information that Alex allegedly has it comes from them second hand which Alex is very clear about on the 20th there I was at dinner last night and then went out and saw one of the shows with Joe Rogan and Lex Friedman and Michael Malis but that was quite a quite a group of people there and just this is all just foregone conclusion we all know it there's no debating it it's out in the open and we just sat there and discussed what it's gonna be like going through this and I learned a lot of interesting intel from those guys that I won't say on air because they all have their own little intel so this is an instance of
Starting point is 00:11:59 Alex using one of his regular strategies which is basically just a combination of escalation and obscuring things on the 20th he tells a story of being out with Rogan and a couple of his weirdo friends and over drinks they talk about how they feel like war is coming then on the 21st Alex embellishes this story to be about all these high-level sources he's talking to when in reality it's just a continuation of a story from the day prior which is why he needs to insist that he's not just talking about Rogan Alex does this a lot we've seen instances of him taking information that a caller gives him one day which he then
Starting point is 00:12:31 goes on to report is coming from an unnamed high-level source the next day I guess what Alex probably wants the audience to think is that at a minimum this is something that Elon Musk has told Rogan and then Rogan's told Alex but it doesn't really matter the information he's providing doesn't come from any high-level source and more importantly the prediction that he's made based on that fake Intel hasn't come true this is about war with China yeah it's not relevant again it's also about United States war with China yes which the United States is not currently at war with China am I correct you are okay so
Starting point is 00:13:05 onto the next clip now this clip is from July 21st 2021 and you better get pumped because it features a guest appearance from the guy who took soul credit for 9-11 Leo Zagami Leo Zagami is a real one oh yeah first is biological bacteriological virus next is the cyber which they tell us in the next is nuclear lay that out yes the cyber warfare basically is already taking place with all these hackers that are working constantly and then of course we have the nuclear now the nuclear is already starting to be announced China here it is they threatened China threatened to nuke Taiwan yesterday here's
Starting point is 00:13:47 the headline Fox News go ahead keep going official Chinese daily they said we will nuke Japan so as you can see that gradually these free phases of this period that we unfortunately gonna be living and that the wheel of course diminish the population of the earth that is absolutely nothing to do with the current situation it doesn't mention February 2022 and it has to do with nuclear or radiological weapons being used by China not Russia this clip is also being taken wildly out of context in order for it to be used in this compilation here is the actual context of what Alex and Leo are talking about
Starting point is 00:14:26 just before this clip starts yeah what's the time frame you're I know you don't want to say but you don't know but what's the time frame of the anti-crash takeover how long just happened how long we got to survive from 2020 to 2030 there's a free stages takeover the first is bacteriological warfare the second is cyber warfare the third is nuclear warfare so these free scenarios will be unveiled in the next nine years this conversation has nothing to do with Russia invading Ukraine let alone doing it in February it's two lunatics talking about they imagine the devil's schedule looks like over the
Starting point is 00:15:03 next decade this clip is meaningless yeah I mean we're still even in his clip we're see we should still be in the first bacteriological phase why we're not a bit or at least cyber warfare we're not in full nuclear warfare no probably not we got another seven years otherwise I mean the devil be way ahead it'd be two way we he's already a decade behind he can't jump ahead an extra decade I don't know if any art that exists that depicts the devil as being ahead of schedule the devil is like waiting at a diner for you just like sitting there like I can't believe he's late literally literally me just sitting around tapping
Starting point is 00:15:47 his hoof he does seem to need to be busy all the time it's nonsense yeah so this next clip is from February 17th 2021 and it's important to understand that this show that it came from was during the 2021 winter storm in Texas so Alex is particularly grumpy about how he doesn't have his fun LED background in the studio and they have to run the show on backup generators they may even have Biden stand down and receive a first strike to our military bases from China my guts never been wrong and I keep ever very intense nightmares the last month that the United States is gonna be hit by nuclear weapons by China and is gonna
Starting point is 00:16:25 stand down and gonna receive the attack and I've looked at all the evidence to they're preparing us with with staying your homes oh your powers off that they turn the power off I'll prove that coming up but they admit they did by the way it's in the fine print nope and they're just getting us ready for the disaster not gonna hit the main cities they're gonna hit the military bases very good chance that they're gonna either blow the entire power grid with EMPs which they've been conditioning us to get ready for or they're gonna hit us with a first strike and you're like oh that's and that's crazy now this is war
Starting point is 00:16:57 folks America's over it's gone Trump was removed of course he won in a giant landslide they weren't gonna allow that to happen and that's why when you look at the press secretary and all Biden's people they are scared and if I was them I'd be scared too because they're gonna be removed as soon as the Chinese take over so I just I gotta be honest with you folks it's all over okay it's all over we're about to be hit with nuclear weapons the military stood down everything's going so I'm sorry it's over company's gone it's all over again this has nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine and doesn't mention February this
Starting point is 00:17:30 is about China nuking the US yeah and he's also not like he's like I say he's not talking about any specific time frame this is a year ago this clip is utterly meaningless in terms what this this compilation is supposed to demonstrate namely that Alex predicted this war back in mid to late 2021 it's this is shit here's what I am getting from this right Alex without question has at a certain point in time said that Russia and Ukraine will go to war I have no doubt of that yeah somewhere along the line I mean one of these clips will sort of get into that right and they could find more but that would take a lot
Starting point is 00:18:10 of effort probably so they got to the recent ones and they were like that's pretty good and I also think that as this this next clip that we're going to talk about sort of illustrates maybe some of the times he talked about it would undercut his actual argument totally the point of this of compilation so let's get to that this next clip is from November 16th 2021 and it's pretty short and I don't get butterflies a lot and having really big ones today I think a big war is about to start something big is about to go down that means nothing but you probably are asking why is that clip so short in this compilation it seems
Starting point is 00:18:46 pretty weird and that's because this is what he said around that clip okay but let me tell you what's really huge and got me having butterflies right now and I don't get butterflies a lot I'm having really big ones today I think a big war is about to start something big is about to go down my spidey sense has never been this strong it's like on fire right now whoo talk about chills talk about the stomach man that is some that is some energy right there there's some big stuff you know China's threatened war with the United States the CIA says Russia is preparing to invade Ukraine which I don't believe a word they say
Starting point is 00:19:35 well huh smart to cut that clip real short in the clip where he's predicting war yeah he says that the Russians would not invade Ukraine the CIA says that yeah like whoever put this compilation together has to have known that that's what he says immediately after this clip but the part where he says oh I feel like war is coming that's useful for the compilation and they know that fucking people who see this compilation aren't going to have the time or the interest to go back and be right wait immediately after this he said that Russia isn't gonna invade Ukraine right so this means that not
Starting point is 00:20:18 only is his compilation entirely about the United States and China fighting yes which is not happening it is also removing the parts where he has said Russia won't do the thing that is happening in order to bolster his case that he is not just not wrong yeah but prescient yeah it's an abusive lie and it's very intentional when you see stuff like that it's a it's a clear fingerprints of someone being like shit well actually said the opposite of what this compilation is supposed to depict so cut it out so we can just make it look like he did yep it's such it's such dog shit it is like how a child would
Starting point is 00:20:55 think of it yeah or or a liar yeah a liar that's what so the next clip here is from December 1st 2021 and yeah I don't think this helps we are not just here talking about what they've already done to us we must ask ourselves how would they carry out such a mass extermination operation it's already killed millions worldwide with these deadly shots that are soft killed binary weapons how how would they get away with this and the answer is a massive financial collapse a war so this is no specifics involved it's just Alex saying that he thinks the globalist should start a war or collapse the economy to distract from their
Starting point is 00:21:39 COVID bio weapon plans he's insisted he's exposed coming to light yep this is meaningless and does nothing to show that Alex made any specific prediction about Ukraine Russia or the month of February let alone all of them together yeah this next clip is from a week later on December 8th 2021 and whoa what do we got here and so you've got the IMF saying imminent global financial collapse they've never talked like that yes they're obviously trying to trigger that and oh imminent cyber attack oh and imminent war with Russia so I guess China can then swoop into Taiwan Hong Kong you already got Hong Kong the
Starting point is 00:22:19 South China Sea they're so close in the own part of Vietnam now that's how World War start we're at the same political cultural spiritual economic climate the world was in on the eve of World War one in 1914 and we're in the same geopolitical type economic cultural spiritual position we were in right before World War two except now there are more than 50,000 nuclear weapons conservatively on the planet and nuclear war is the least of our problems most of what way Nate half mile a mile up and just destroy real state and kill humans it's when the nuclear reactors here go offline and
Starting point is 00:23:08 start melting down and we've got 400 plus Chernobyl's to look forward to and the globalists won't be safe they're little bunkers from themselves so this clip once again is about China nuking us or I guess nuclear power plants melting down says nothing to do with the prediction of war between Russia and Ukraine and doesn't involve February at all he did say Russia in there though and he mentioned Chernobyl so I guess we're getting closer yeah yeah I mean I guess yeah there was one jump cut in there to clearly trying to make two parts of this episode mashed together to make it look like the thoughts appear
Starting point is 00:23:43 to be more directly connected and then there's another jump cut which takes us to the next clip that is also from this December 8th episode US senator won't rule out nuclear strike against Russia isn't that just sweet and I've got stacks of articles with them threatening and then already moving nuclear weapons up to the Russian border and the Russians are like okay you're taking over a country that's 90% Russia in the east about 30% Russian in the west and you say you're gonna take our gas pipelines and our facilities and our military bases with NATO troops we're gonna stop that and their answer is
Starting point is 00:24:20 we'll just nuke you then and so I predict the Russians are gonna roll in they're already there they're gonna roll in and there's a good chance the psychotic crazy people that love Satan and love death not enough to be killing us with the shots in the bio weapon they released they're gonna go ahead and just launch tactical nuclear weapons the Russians and then the Russians are gonna respond by destroying NATO forces and then about 15 minutes into that the ICBMs get launched the submarines pop up and the cruise missiles get fired and so hey it was a good run while we had it right we love Satan right we love
Starting point is 00:24:55 abortion well guess what you all get ready to die so this is about as close as we're probably gonna get yeah that's pretty good Alex is covering an interview with senator wicker on Fox News which had to do with some tensions between Russia and Ukraine because this conversation was already happening in December in ranting about other news and interviews on other news channels Alex said he thought that Russia was gonna quote roll in which is unspecific enough to interpret as him being correct or incorrect depending on your preference what's more important is that the rest of the stuff he's ranting about is
Starting point is 00:25:26 completely off base at this point uh-huh he also never said that it was gonna happen in February and one fair reading of this comment is that he was thinking there would be military action that's contained within the Donbass region the only way to make this seem accurate is to be really generous which Alex doesn't deserve and even if you do he's not saying February no these are disconnected and even then he is looking at NATO as the aggressor here right yeah he's like Russia is justified yeah in which rolling in which based on some of his other comments and career it shouldn't be too surprised no I'm not surprised at all
Starting point is 00:26:03 by that but in terms of I'm predicting that this war is happening right you definitely weren't predicting that Russia was going to be invading the entire country exactly unless you give a very broad reading of a roll in yeah yeah yeah so there's one last clip in this compilation and it's from January 5th 2022 there's no way the globalists get out of this without nuclear meltdowns the service the earth becoming unlivable and every every actuary that's been done even by the Pentagon so why are they following a path that will cause mass war mass starvation and nuclear meltdowns because it's a planetary ending event
Starting point is 00:26:40 not just for us but all major spaces and that's it this clip means nothing and it has no predictive quality to it at all when taken in their totality this compilation involves Alex mostly talking about his fears about China nuking the United States and it only mentions February once not even in relation to Russia this is a really a desperate attempt on Alex's part to capitalize on the tragic events that are taking place in Ukraine and use them to inflate his sense of self it's a really grotesque motivation he's displaying particularly considering how weak the evidence he's presented
Starting point is 00:27:11 is for his supposed prediction the reason that this works on people is because most people don't have the time to actually listen to Alex's show so they don't know what the context is for most of these clips spliced together the way they are they give an appearance that's dishonest he's talking a bunch about war and he says Russia once or twice he says he thinks Russia is gonna quote roll into Ukraine and earlier in a different clip he said February if you're not paying attention to how disconnected these clips are you run the risk of combining them in your head
Starting point is 00:27:40 to give Alex credit for a prediction he absolutely didn't make you were on the risk of being the rube that he made this clip to and a lot of people have fallen for it exactly in reality Alex predicts war all the time i will grant him that the vast majority of these predictions that him and his guests make the kind of obsessing about civil war or race war the geopolitical variety does happen sometimes but his bread and butter is really just incitement based on his culture war bigotry's that's kind of the sweet spot for him right in terms of predictions Alex makes on his show
Starting point is 00:28:12 historically it's been a lot of financial collapse type stuff that's certainly something he does all the time or has but that's because you know he does used to sell gold too right that's one of the big reasons and then the other is because it helps him attack the federal reserve if he insists a collapse is just around the corner so therefore you know that was that was something that he would incessantly predict that never happened in the past except for when it did happen yes and then you get to look like oh i predicted it no you say no i mean literally
Starting point is 00:28:42 once the crash of 1987 happened it's been like every 10 years you know it's just there right and predicting war is something that you're never gonna eventually long enough scale you're going to be right eventually yeah and if you give yourself credit for predicting russia invading ukraine by yelling about china nuking the united states yeah a bunch then congratulations you have you have won um a pointless game i mean that is so it's like low-key such a fucking disgusting psychopathic thing to
Starting point is 00:29:19 do of like look at all of this destruction and death that makes me feel good because i was right even though i wasn't yep i had to edit clips i had to lie to you yeah in order to present myself as right and that makes me feel good still somehow that's bananas well i get some attention which is really the only thing he matters about that's basically it also another thing that's important to point out is that alex predicts his own imminent death on a pretty frequent occasion which hasn't happened yet and of course he has constant
Starting point is 00:29:48 failed predictions about false flags that he insists are gonna happen yep so the point here is that alex didn't predict anything this video he released is a disgrace and it doesn't even show him predicting what's going on in the world today and it includes a clip that had to be edited short so it wouldn't include the part where alex says he doesn't think that russia is gonna invade ukraine he could have just not used that one he's a piece of shit and this is how he tries to make money and get attention off this war and also how he's attempting to lure
Starting point is 00:30:14 people's attention away from the fact that all through the beginning of last week alex was going on and on about how great and honest putin was and how he could find no fault with him and that he should take an ask at luhansk yep these comments look really bad now so instead of apologizing for that he starts this bullshit campaign about how he's basically no stardomus because alex is a liar and a fucking coward yep and i feel really i don't know i mean obviously i think that it's his bread and butter to do to do detestable things sure and so this is just
Starting point is 00:30:45 another in the long line of them right i think that the circumstances being what they are elevate this to a different level of shitheadery oh yeah um but the other thing is that this is something that is um it's a it's a lure much like you use in fishing you know like this is trying to get people on the hook yeah you post this compilation onto social media and you try and trick people who wouldn't otherwise i gotta check this out this guy was right maybe maybe i've been being lied to about alex all this time honestly i heard that
Starting point is 00:31:18 he was bad and i know he got kicked off social media but a lot of good people have been kicked off social media i'll give him a try right and and there's there's a lot of possibly well intentioned people who might get duped by this and i think that arguing against somebody posting this can appear to be a bit difficult because you have to engage with it enough to be like that's not what he's predicting right and then you don't know where those clips are from and it would take
Starting point is 00:31:47 a person who isn't me uh probably an absurd amount of time probably yeah and it would drive people mad but i'm already mad exactly so i can i can handle doing this but i just think it's such a dangerous uh the sort of propaganda tactic yeah that that i find reprehensible yeah the irony being your the theoretical rub that gets caught on the end of this hook will have gone there because they think that alex is right about russia starting a war and if they stay there long enough we'll eventually
Starting point is 00:32:20 support putin i i mean right well is that kind of how yes among other things i mean yes if if you end up getting sucked in by this and then being like wow you know if alex can predict this you must must actually have really great information maybe i should listen to him you you know you could end up believing all sorts of devilry oh yeah yep sucks yeah anyway uh let's get back to the present day okay back to february 25th much more comforting play oh no never mind shit
Starting point is 00:32:52 so alex uh believes of course i mean we even heard a little bit of that in one of his clips from the past but that um yeah this isn't russia's fault republican and democratic senators calling for more military aid to ukraine that's what got this going in the first place is all the weapons being shipped in to the russian border how about poking the bear it's like climbing in a grizzly bear din at the zoo and wondering why it eats you are these crazy people that climb in with bengal tigers or gorillas and wonder why they get their head ripped off that's what happened here
Starting point is 00:33:25 doesn't mean i back what putin's doing doesn't mean i like it it's terrible and whatever happens now it's on putin i mean this is historic make no mistake this is an incoherent position and if you actually think about it alex's position has to be incoherent because the alternatives just don't work no if this is actually a situation where the west is aggressing on russia's border and alex has stated a bunch of times that he you know believes that the don boss isn't a part of ukraine then why wouldn't he support russia and putin's actions
Starting point is 00:33:54 he definitely supported them hypothetically last week before they became a reality this position is no good because putin is actually doing the thing alex wanted to happen and it's fucking horrific alex makes money in the space where he yells about things that people aren't going to do like what ron paul would do if he was president or how trump should outlaw the democratic party it's a real problem when the things he supports end up happening and it doesn't happen that often but when it does it usually involves a lot of people dying
Starting point is 00:34:20 right and he doesn't want to be made to feel bad about that yeah but look at it from the other side and you realize alex can't take the opposite position either he can't see that putin is entirely in the wrong and that he had no justification for invading because that threatens the very long-standing positive coverage that inforce has had regarding putin he's been built up as the one great hope of defeating the globalist so if you take the position that he just invaded a sovereign country for no reason
Starting point is 00:34:47 you're gonna have too many questions to answer plus alex knows his business and he knows that a whole lot of his audience loves putin invading so going too hard against that is going to be bad for his bottom line yep and thus you get this middle of the road bullshit where alex gives lip service to pretending to be opposed to the invasion while simultaneously placing the blame entirely on western powers and thereby completely absolving putin of blame for the invasion out now it is all on him though somehow well he's trying alex is trying to say like
Starting point is 00:35:18 whatever happens now is exactly as if the invasion is i mean the invasion is totally reasonable you invade right but what are you doing fighting it's a bizarre position it's nonsense it's nonsense i think it's entirely the west's fault obviously russia should putin should invade and now it's all putin's fault what what what are you talking about well but you understand like i really think that if you if you take the time to really focus on so i think a number of his positions throughout his career have
Starting point is 00:35:49 had to be the same kind of completely internally inconsistent thing because you're going either way is not going to work and i think when you see that it's it's really the hallmark of somebody that you should not trust yeah they're up to something yeah yeah that's the that's an understatement yeah so we get to alex talking about his fears about cyber attack he believes there's going to be a false flag cyber attack against russia well russia is going to be the victim of it
Starting point is 00:36:21 nato is going to run the false flag against russia in order to start a war okay so here is the big escalation ladies and gentlemen here's the big escalation we've got all the talking heads saying that there's any type of cyber attack anywhere outside of ukraine in a nato member and that if so much as a stop light goes out and can be blamed on the russians to be senator warner and others actually said that
Starting point is 00:36:55 that if they can blame a stop light going out and that u.s troops have a car wreck that we have to invoke article five and go to war with russia and basically in the world as we know it so there's that issue now even if the u.s government doesn't launch a cyber attack against poland or against hungry or against the check republic or against germany any nato member you know hacker groups and you know different globalist groups are going to try
Starting point is 00:37:27 to stir this up and accelerate this they're that crazy so that conversation about like a stop light uh getting put out by a cyber attack was used in the context of like it introduces really bizarre questions that we have to ask yeah like if there is a cyber attack that russia does against ukraine it has the potential to affect the infrastructure of other countries and does that require some kind of an article five right thing and it's not saying oh if a stop light goes out we're going to fucking send ground right right right
Starting point is 00:37:59 it's it's more like uh the system is so completely and utterly interconnected and complex that the idea of what is and is not a specific attack on whom right is difficult now to even understand it can be yeah and also alex is reporting this as if it's some kind of like mind-blowing new conversation but that's stupid yeah the nato secretary general gen stoltenberg has been saying that cyber attacks on a member country could trigger article five since at least 2019 if not earlier it's never really fully
Starting point is 00:38:31 articulated but if you read his comments it seems pretty clear that the way article five would be invoked in that situation is in terms of retaliating in the cyberspace not in terms of a physical war right right so their their interpretation would be if we trigger article five for this purpose then we can meet it at that same purpose maybe that's not always consistent but that seems to be the way it's discussed about cyber issues gotcha okay stoltenberg wrote an article in prospect magazine in 2019 that
Starting point is 00:39:00 includes this passage quote as we look ahead we must continue to build a strong and diverse workforce of future cyber defenders the uk has already started doing this with cyber first a program aimed at supporting and preparing undergraduates for a career in cyber security we must be smart about recruiting training and retaining highly skilled cyber experts and make sure their skills are kept sharp through regular exercises as we do for instance through our cyber coalition exercises
Starting point is 00:39:27 cyberspace is the new battleground and making nato cyber ready well resourced well trained and well equipped is a top priority article five really just says that if a member country is attacked the other states come to their defense it doesn't require that that defense be a land invasion right anyway you can tell here that alex is laying some groundwork to be able to claim that he predicted a false flag cyber attack if russia does do something or if there is a cyber attack he can be like aha i knew what i called it right
Starting point is 00:39:53 it's not it's nonsense no not good not helpful but at least he named more than six nato states so that's that's pretty good i wasn't counting no i think it was just five holand germany check republic i think it was three so you remember in the lead up to uh the invasion there was a lot of conversation among people like people like biden the u.s state department were saying that there was information that russia had planned to
Starting point is 00:40:25 create provocation false flag pretexts for going in right what do you think what was alex's response to that um i believe alex's response to that was to say that it would not happen like false flags don't happen in this way do but russia doesn't do it right russia doesn't do that there's no history that's what i that's what i was i couldn't get there i was like he didn't say that all false flags don't happen that's crazy but he did say that somebody like and it was specifically russia russia had never done it before never that was
Starting point is 00:40:55 that was what got me and he was he was pretty pissed off based on his own expertise in the field that uh the united states would be saying that uh whoops if you think it's easy to stage a false flag and and i do think for once the state department and others are being accurate i mean car bombs going off right as the russians invade as the pretext i mean that's what militaries do when they invade if you know that the u.s military doesn't do that you're you're not living in the real world okay
Starting point is 00:41:22 that's in military classified manuals usually you don't want to kill people if you're the good guys you'll blow up a few tanks or blow up you know an embassy building or a barracks uh and and and that's your pretext so it does look like some of those things didn't even happen and see it's okay to talk about false flags this guy calls himself the world's foremost expert on false flags and he has the balls to come on his show and say whoops i guess russia did a false flag after all looks like the state department was right and i the world's foremost expert was wrong
Starting point is 00:41:51 alex wasn't just wrong he was pissed off that anyone other than him was suggesting that a false flag could happen he really got the sense that he took that personally but now i guess he's realized the state department was right but what he's failed to take stock of is that he was wrong he'll never do that because if he acknowledges that he's wrong or that there's a decent chance he could be wrong he'd lose a lot of his hypnotic power over the audience so much of alex's appeal is based on his performative confidence so if that
Starting point is 00:42:18 facade cracked he doesn't really have much to offer people other than bad impressions leaving aside the question of whether or not there were in fact false flags it's weird how alex can accept that russia did a false flag but not draw the natural conclusion that pootin is evil evil leaders do false flags according to alex at it for wars yeah you can't be an honest honorable leader and do false flags but here alex seems to take the whole thing pretty lightly you know that's what you do that's part of the game if you think the us doesn't do it then you're just out
Starting point is 00:42:47 of great you're just out of control i don't even know what you're talking about frankly i still don't think russia did a false flag oh boy so he seems to be almost justifying the idea of a false flag by saying russia wanted to look like the good guys so they did some car bombings to make it look like they were i guess and yet alex won't take the very short very obvious step of recognizing that so they are the bad guys exactly yes so they wanted to look like the good guys because why because they are not the good guys there we go now we got there and to alex's last point that hey it's okay to
Starting point is 00:43:20 talk about false flags it's always been okay to talk about false flags alex doesn't talk about false flags he calls everything a false flag with no evidence he constantly rants about vague false flags that are coming any day now he uses accusations of false flags to excuse the behavior of murderers who are motivated by the same extreme right wing politics that he espouses on a daily basis there's a lot of space between uh responsibly talking about false flags and what alex does he uh is full of shit yeah
Starting point is 00:43:50 see you can you can talk about false flags if you want to we both did yeah it's great how easy and free it is in this country ah so alex i think that um even more so than on our last episode um where we kind of you know you got the sense that alex is waffly a little bit but also on putin's side well he's not saying the putin's bad right but they were right well obviously yeah putin was right well i think alex has solidified that a little bit more on this 25th episode this is being done to look strong to go in and to disarm
Starting point is 00:44:25 ukraine because rush up for 20 years has left the west expand nato five times that's very clear and putin said two weeks ago and a week ago he said i'm not gonna invade just say you're not gonna invoke article five and that you're not going to bring ukraine into nato and they said nope or the state department tweeted images of large u.s transport aircraft delivering pallets of very destructive anti aircraft and anti tank weapons so the west went to start a fight it's got one now whoa
Starting point is 00:45:05 you just said it was right for putin to invade yeah that's that's what he just said yeah so the end right you think putin murdering all of these people is good he believes that the invasion of ukraine was a self-defense act essentially yeah obviously whoo yeah so this idea that nato promised russia after the fall of the soviet union that they wouldn't expand is taken as an absolute fact by alex and i think a lot of people do accept it as a fact but the reality isn't so clear it's definitely been the russian government
Starting point is 00:45:34 and putin's claim forever but there are some real serious sticking points in terms of history that make this seem incorrect this comes down to the period right after the berlin wall fell and there was a contentious discussion happening about reunification one of the big issues in the negotiation involving the u.s state department and uh baker uh and mckayl gorbachev was whether or not nato troops would be stationed in east germany the ussr and russia did not want that to happen yeah obviously so in the past putin has pointed
Starting point is 00:46:05 to a may 17th 1990 speech from the nato secretary general manfred warner as he did in a 2007 speech quote what happened to the assurances our western partners made after the disillusion of the warsaw pact where are those declarations today no one even remembers them but i will allow myself to remind the audience what was said i would like to quote the speech of nato secretary general uh mr warner in brussels on 17th of may 1990 he said at that time the fact that we are
Starting point is 00:46:38 ready not to place a nato army outside of germany german territory gives the soviet union a firm security guarantee where are these guarantees the issue however is that the speech that warner gave didn't promise not to expand member states of nato right it just promised not to station nato troops in the former east germany even gorbachev has said that they didn't agree not to expand in a 2014 interview with russia beyond quote the topic of nato expansion was not discussed at all and it wasn't brought up in those years
Starting point is 00:47:11 i say this with full responsibility not a single eastern european country raised the issue not even after the warsaw pact ceased to exist in 1991 western leaders didn't bring it up either he says expansion is against the spirit of the agreement but it wasn't discussed and no promises were made the point is that there's a gray area here where alex just sees black and white in the same way as budan multiple nato states estonia and latvia border russia and they joined in 2004 multiple former warsaw pact countries have joined the earliest entering in 1999 prior to budan coming to power
Starting point is 00:47:46 yeah bringing up nato expansion is being against the spirit of the agreement that was only about germany is something that is a fine thing to do at a negotiating table but it's absolutely not a justification for an invasion which is what alex is using it here right for right he seems really desperate to make the audience think that this is the west's fault and that putin had no choice which is pretty fucked up but that's where he's at that's uh that's how the the cow ate the cabbage man it's so it's so weird to me seeing how many people are like apologists for a war
Starting point is 00:48:23 yeah i was watching some of the uh america first pack yeah uh conference and nick fuentes yeah he's getting a round of applause hitler is great yeah for for putin what was the comment it was the uh the they're compared to hitler as if that's a bad thing yeah yeah fucked up but i think some of those i think he does believe some of that stuff but i think that kind of a line was actually sort of oh that was 100 to get on yeah that's to trend yeah i think i think he is also a dangerous horrible neo-naziish bigot
Starting point is 00:48:57 but i think that was verbal shit posting uh-huh that was that was definitely him being like guess what's gonna be on tv tomorrow me yep but beyond that even though he was expressing quite a bit of support for putin invading ukraine getting a round of applause and a chant for putin yeah you know yeah there's there's all sorts of folks across the the right it's it's just really i can't i can't think of any i can't think of any war that i'd be like well listen
Starting point is 00:49:28 this is great i think this is awesome i want this it's crazy it's crazy to me yeah who who lives in that world of like yeah war is still cool it's 2022 come on man it is come on so uh alex is really caught up in this ukraine stuff you know and it's so much so that he's forgotten to cover some big news i'm going to cover the developments in russia for this segment the next but then in the last segment of this hour i really dropped the ball yesterday and did not cover the covid news
Starting point is 00:50:06 and this isn't just about this news that's just unbelievable and we already knew this it had almost all the pieces of it but now we have the last ones that maderna created covid 19 and then they just reverse engineered it in the lab to have a cover story and they released it of course maderna was created by bill gates and others just for this event so this story that alex is talking about has to do with another pre-print article that he's blowing out a proportion in order to weave conspiracy this has to do with a team of researchers who found that a 19-letter string of dna
Starting point is 00:50:39 in the coronavirus matches a string that was patented by maderna a few years back in relation to a cancer drug that they were working on sure this was covered in the daily mail who spoke to professor laurence young a virologist at warwick university who said quote we're talking about a very very very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides so it doesn't mean very much to be frank if you were to do these type of searches you can find always find matches yeah it's a quirky observation but i wouldn't call it a smoke and gun because it's too small it doesn't get us any further with the
Starting point is 00:51:11 debate about whether covid 19 was engineered also bill gates didn't start maderna he wasn't even involved in the venture capital startup for the company back in 2010 yeah even within the study the itself they suggest ways that this could have happened naturally and their conclusion is just that it's something that should be looked into further that's fine it just doesn't you know justify alex's reporting on the story at all so i'll get back to it a little bit later but you just had to be like fuck i forgot to cover this
Starting point is 00:51:37 this is so important this thing that's not true i gotta get this out there oh smoking gun oh maderna was created by goofy the giraffes but first you know we'll get into that giraffe stuff we'll talk about why why are you next so long what are you hiding what are you doing up there what are those leaves are they better than the ones i got down here you elitist giraffe you son of a bitch we'll get into all that but first we got to talk more about russia sure the globalists never stop they never give up
Starting point is 00:52:06 and they're really pissed at russia for not being fully under their control and so they are pushing russia into a fight and i understand that russia was surrounded weapons around its border and that the globalist system was setting russia up for war and defeat but i think putin made a major mistake going into ukraine and long term the globalists are going to try to trigger a larger war and i understand that it was you know one of the choices out of a list of bad
Starting point is 00:52:42 choices and and maybe putin will be born out to have stabilized things with this and that yeah to be seen wow sure so you can kind of see here how the only way alex can be anyway critical of the invasion is to put it in tactical terms yeah he has nothing to say about the targeting of civilians it's just a possibly bad strategic decision putin made that hey who knows maybe it'll be a good thing in the end sure there's a fucking worm hey sure you sent uh missiles uh directly into
Starting point is 00:53:09 kindergarten's hospitals all that stuff that is just bad strategy it's not evil you just got to do it better yeah there's a there's a real um uh i don't i don't know how to describe it other than lack of center yeah there is yeah there is there is a little bit of that like oh he's watching a tv show he's watching a tv show and he's like if i were the head main character in this show i wouldn't do that i mean he's like i don't go don't go in there don't go in there
Starting point is 00:53:43 the killer's behind the door right but he's also imagining a killer being exactly there's nothing everything's fake and the tv show isn't real he's just staring at a big rock staring at a wall yeah uh so anyway in in case you need this to be clear the enemy is the globalist the enemy is hollywood the enemy is the left the enemy is the disease of their grandstanding and they're moralizing when they're the worst people this planet has ever seen yeah so he's making clear that those are the
Starting point is 00:54:14 enemies the enemy isn't russia yeah yep that's just it's amazing yep it is it is kind of fair you know i think we've talked about this a bunch of the past but maybe not reiterated enough recently yeah and that is it you know saying that you know russia we're not talking about the people of the country no no of course and it can be it can be easy to misconstrue obvious but it bears repeating from time to time i am i am thoroughly anti all borders so no boy yeah no war no war no u.s.a at all no lines no nothing you sound like biden i'm i'm just saying but
Starting point is 00:54:50 you you sure as fuck have a right to defend yourself if an army shows up at your door yeah but that's just the truth right right yeah um i i just i just i guess wanted to clarify that because of my way of saying that like alex thinking that the enemy isn't russia right i don't mean right right no no no of course um but yeah so he he has some really interesting and by that i mean dumb ideas about what's going on with this invasion but you get around the average leftist they are hateful demonic sacks of filth that will never stop pushing
Starting point is 00:55:26 and never stop attacking until they get control of absolutely everything and run it into the damn ground and there are going to be people around the world that ain't gonna put up with it and you're seeing that right now with russia the left has successfully feminized america broken our backs done all this crap didn't happen in russia even after 85 years of new world order leftist rulership is that now we see the response of it and it's a bad thing so this is an outrageous thing for alex to be saying at least partially because it's a
Starting point is 00:55:58 complete contradiction of everything he said for the past week i mean god damn it when putin was initially threatening to go into the donbass region alex wasn't saying that he was doing that to stand up to sjw's he relied on russian talking points to argue that putin should do that and it's basically already russia yep even after the invasion alex said that putin had paid off the ukrainian government and was gonna have no resistance in his invasion yep he wasn't going on the war path because the new world order is featuring like effeminate men in sitcoms and
Starting point is 00:56:27 commercials or whatever no purple penguins are why millions of people have to die alex suggested that the fact that the us is tolerant of lgbtq folk that made us look weak to putin in a past episode but this is a different argument that alex is making now this is an argument about putin's motives where alex is suggesting that he invaded ukraine because it was somehow a response to how the left wants to control everything and feminize men right this is a profoundly stupid thing but it's one of the only
Starting point is 00:56:54 refuges alex has to to hide in now the invasion is ongoing people are dying and all of his predictions were complete shit he was wrong in the lead up to the invasion and he actually was wrong in both directions he said that putin was just going to take don boss and he also said that putin was going to start a thermonuclear war with the united states at this point he's aired on both extremes like he got a seven ten split of being wrong yeah in order to put some salve on his wounds and to distract people he puts out that stupid video about how he
Starting point is 00:57:22 predicted this last year and then he goes and he does everything he can to shroud the narrative of the invasion in topics that he's more comfortable with which is to say bigotry and he knows that the audience loves those narratives so just give them what they want more to the point though this isn't analysis of anything this is an emotional outburst that's seeking to use the invasion of ukraine to inflame people's feelings and possibly incite them towards anti-left violence yeah i mean it's it's just i it is it is literally like hey
Starting point is 00:57:56 we can forgive anything as long as your aim is to stamp out the lgbtq community mm-hmm like that's like yeah fuck yeah you have to invade otherwise nato's gonna bring the lgbtq into your fucking country like that's that's your argument to me it's it's not far off from the spiritual uh core of what he's saying yeah it's it's just like yeah whatever you got to do man as long as we get rid of lgbtq you get a free lunch i i'm sure he would try and pretend that there are other he would uh elements to it but that his own words aren't helping him that is
Starting point is 00:58:34 that is a central organizing principle of what he's what he's putting forth and it's it's awful it's a poor yeah i mean it's it might as well be you know this hurricane was caused because we allow gay marriage that's that's it's it's just god it has to visit pain upon us for our sins yep it's a mess yep so alex gets back to this uh covid narrative uh and uh man he can't even take something and use the actual bits of it to make a conspiracy he has to lie even
Starting point is 00:59:08 about something that he could just work with right it's weird so a lot of you tuned in are gonna say i've already read these articles i've already heard this i've i've already seen this because the indians they get the credit majored their top university of biogenetics got the virus scanned six different samples of it and so this is completely man-made all the parts of it were made in a lab they're all cut together they're synthetic and they explained how it was synthetic it was no debate they're saying it's
Starting point is 00:59:36 one out of three billion chances that just one part of covid 19 could not be made in a lab when you put all the pieces together it's basically impossible so alex is lying uh first of all this wasn't from india's most prestigious or top university the lead researcher on it is balamurali ambati who's with the university of organ in eugen there's one researcher from india who works at dr schoff's charity eye hospital second alex is just lying about what this paper is about it's not about any other part of the
Starting point is 01:00:12 genome than this strand of 19 letters so when alex says that it says something outside of that he's making that up they do calculate the odds of this string matching the string that was patented by maderna as being three billion to one but it's also important to remember that this hasn't been peer reviewed and even just in the comment section of the article like the the actual uh paper itself yeah people have brought up some potential issues with how they calculated that probability
Starting point is 01:00:38 they also didn't say that it had to have been made in a lab that's all an extrapolation on alex's part there is even inside the story a or in the the the paper itself there is a potential explanation for how it could have occurred naturally uh so so yeah so alex is just making this up there so when he said no argument uh he was very much not telling the truth no he hasn't read this he's just seen a headline right the article that alex is reading from is uh the it's from the daily mail and even this
Starting point is 01:01:09 article includes the response that they had from dr young about how this is interesting but it doesn't mean much and it also has a another quote from a microbiologist from reading university who said quote it's an interesting coincidence but this is surely entirely coincidental the real version of this story as reported in this uh in this study and the daily mail article deserves the response of a shrug and saying uh how about that uh alex's version is sensational and terrifying but he's also lying and making up details so he can make it more
Starting point is 01:01:37 scary for the listeners and make it more of a confirmation of his bullshit narrative right so i i found this to be uncompelling so even then our reaction to it is more like oh isn't that cool like when you see a double rainbow you're like whoa that's unusual well one guy when he saw a double rainbow exactly very different response very different response yeah man there's so much news uh he's there yeah for alex there's so much news to get into okay we got so much to hit but but i i'm gonna air this now the full compilation
Starting point is 01:02:07 it's like seven minutes long it's up on of every good 60s cut band-odd video right now from the 70s the video clip that's 27 seconds long has got millions of views on the internet right now all over the place that there's just clips everywhere million here 600 000 there 300 000 there hundreds of copies it's everywhere i mean it's it's incredible where i came out and said look for war by early 2022 by the end of february and i'm saying is that my prediction is incredible
Starting point is 01:02:41 it's incredible how viral this is going so i so i figured why don't i just go ahead and play a little bit more of this in context you naval gazing fuck this is ridiculous wow i'm gonna listen it's not about we have so much news it's not about me taking a victory lap that's not what i want you to think this is by the way it's a victory lap based on getting a lot of attention for a compilation of deceitful clips that i had edited i don't want to take a victory lap but i do want to play this uninterrupted uh for everyone to hear what a piece of
Starting point is 01:03:14 play at every segment i guess you don't have a lot of news to get to no apparently not um anyway he tries to salvage a little bit from this after the after the compilation plays he has he has he had some interesting rebuttals my sources the information i saw and everything going on said by february late february china starts moving and rush to starts moving that's not a hard call because if they're gonna move they're going to move together
Starting point is 01:03:50 and now china is making more and more of those type of statements but they've also said that they'd like putin to obviously meet with the ukrainian president and talk about an armistice and a demilitarization of the area but it got leaked a few days ago that the chinese talking points the media of censorship and control saying we're with russia and we're with russia's invasion but we want to act like we're neutral so that we can move against our targets is basically what they said in fact that was in your state stack will you guys
Starting point is 01:04:24 reprint me that i got i got it for you are you reprinted i'll reprint it for you oh my god so this is an interesting way to try and salvage things probably inspired at least partially by him listening to the compilation video he as he aired it and realizing there's almost entirely about him predicting that china was gonna nuke the us and knowing maybe i should explain that or try and you know make it not look so glaring context for that one yeah so alex is referring to a february 23rd article in the washington
Starting point is 01:04:51 times that doesn't say what he's claiming when he needs it be reprinted yeah this is about a propaganda outlet a set of instructions from china that were allegedly leaked first being posted on the website china digital times it's unclear from the original source where these instructions that totally came from since it's entirely possible that this was just an internal corporate memo from the social media team at the news outlet horizon news okay from the digital times article quote in this case the author may be relaying specific official instructions or taking the initiative in anticipating the
Starting point is 01:05:25 desired course of coverage right so when alex says that this comes from the government that's not in the underlying source material i mean if you're if you're a china sponsored news outlet you kind of probably have a feel for what's what's good and what's bad in your boss maybe so but alex still doesn't have justification to say that this oh no absolutely not directly from the government agreed so the story alex is covering can't even solidly confirm that this was something that came from the government but alex is claiming that the
Starting point is 01:05:52 instructions were to pretend to be against russia's invasion so they could sneakily do some invading of their own this doesn't match the messaging and the instructions and alex is really just making up a lot of this basically the instructions were to just not say anything negative about russia in the news or on social media right and and don't say anything pro-western right yeah i mean they've got a full cooperation treaty so yeah that makes sense yeah to be clear i think it's not good
Starting point is 01:06:19 if this is authentic i don't know necessarily how credible these these sourcing is on this sure if it is real which i think it could be sure it's not good no sucks that horizon news would be making rules to not post anything quote unfavorable to russia or pro-western and they're being told to monitor comments on their posts but this doesn't match what alex is reporting at all there's a larger issue to confront here and that is that alex's rhetoric is directly in line with the positions being expressed by representatives for the ccp
Starting point is 01:06:50 from the washington times article that is alex's source quote on wednesday chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman hua shin yin appeared to be following a similar propaganda script to one of the to the one disclosed by horizon news miss hua blamed the united states for the crisis to and avoided criticism of moscow quote lately the united states have been has been sending weapons to ukraine heightening tensions creating panic and even hyping up the possibility of warfare she told reporters
Starting point is 01:07:20 a key question here is what role the u.s the culprit of current tensions surrounding ukraine has played miss hua said if someone keeps pouring oil on the flame while accusing others of not doing their best to put out the fire such kind of behavior is clearly irresponsible and immoral i look forward to seeing how alex explains how his coverage of the ukraine invasion is directly in line with what's supposed to be the result of a chinese propaganda initiative that he's decrying but i also know damn well he's not going to
Starting point is 01:07:47 deal with that at all no fucking pile of shit nope nope which is which is really strange no not that strange i mean i would be but i well yeah i mean obviously if you think about it right it is strange yeah just because your if people were acting on consistent like principles yes that would be strange it would be very strange to be like putin's awesome he signed a treaty of cooperation with china and china is now just giving out all this propaganda that helps putin
Starting point is 01:08:17 so evil of china did it you and you're like wait you're what what's happening yeah alex could have given that statement that the chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman gave a easy straight up very similar to his mentality could have been written for him yeah i'm a dick anyway alex takes some calls because he has so much to get to um and you know this is the result of the kind of narratives that alex puts out yeah the day before obviously alex was saying that
Starting point is 01:08:49 the ukrainian leadership and military had been paid off and there wouldn't be any resistance right and now it just gets parroted back to him by a caller i believe you're right on everything i think the ukraine uh invasion was a theater i think it it was planned i i i mean putin basically walked through ukraine and took it there was no opposition i'm sorry where you know very little what what yeah do you did he does that guy think that happened
Starting point is 01:09:24 i mean i i don't even know how you would get that from listening to alex yeah i mean the talking point about there being no resistance and such certainly came from alex but that was a while back it was a day ago based on this episode yes but yeah the the notion that it came to pass yeah strange that's crazy um yeah it's just living in a bizarre fantasy world now alex as opposed to this caller recognizes that like you know what there is some fighting going on uh i can't really pretend that there's not that's that's a little bit too far so i gotta come up with an explanation for
Starting point is 01:09:56 why and here's what he's got well well that's right let's i mean let's talk about what's happened in ukraine clearly the military leadership was bought off before the invasion and so rag tag pilots rag tag tank groups uh rag tag militias are fighting and and dying valiantly in the face of the russians and actually holding them off in some areas and you know the border guards they didn't get the memo to you know to surrender so they got killed on snake island and it can only can only make you admire these you know hard fighting good people you know who
Starting point is 01:10:27 are upset about being invaded by their historic genetic brethren this is an interesting way for alex to try and salvage his shitty storyline about there being no ukrainian resistance but this is entirely pulled from his imagination he has no evidence or even suggestion of evidence that the ukrainian government was paid off to surrender passed him just thinking it up as a fun thing to tell the audience yeah it'd be interesting if that's what happened sure it always happens at every war crazy now that it's clear that there's a robust ukrainian resistance he needs to
Starting point is 01:10:55 find a way to delegitimize it and try to save face so he's now making up that there was a memo that went around that the military needed to give up but some border agents and scrappy pilots didn't get the memo so they're fighting back scrappy pilots oh those scrappy pilots those band of brothers we happy few this is absolutely pathetic and it's really the face of alex jones he's making shit up to help his listeners and not experience reality that he finds inconvenient even in the context of lying about people
Starting point is 01:11:25 fighting a war against an invading country this is just debased stuff and like as the kids say he should probably just take the l and move on do kids still say that uh i don't think kids do but grown-up adults like us do i feel like i see it on twitter and i assume that's the kids yeah you would assume that twitter is the kids but again twitter not the kids kids aren't anywhere near twitter twitter's for uh old dum-dums like us twitter is no longer on fleek no it is off it is thoroughly off fleek fleek is nowhere near twitter anymore
Starting point is 01:11:56 oh no yeah this is a quiz about it's so look we're gonna have to pause would you prefer i say a duke plaster no i love it so um this sucks and this is alex's way of trying to get around uh the fact that this has not uh come to pass the the lack of uh resistance uh but he still wants to hold on to a lot of it the leadership stood down and that's why zalinski's hanging out with the fraud of frauds
Starting point is 01:12:33 hollywood people and and and all the rest of it because because behind the scenes from my sources zalinski's actually a double agent working for pudin oh i wouldn't doubt it wow wow so this just has to do with zalinski getting interviewed by shan pen sure i believe great so uh he clearly has not left kiv and is essentially created a folk hero level mythology about himself surrounding his unwillingness to back down as a leader what alex is saying is completely out of touch with reality and it's super
Starting point is 01:13:02 offensive at least in part because it's just alex making shit up in order to pretend that the real world matches his conspiracy uh worldview which is very dumb a dumb worldview yeah this is not letting the truth and reality lead your coverage it's having a predetermined conclusion and literally ignoring the truth and making up your own false reality so you can protect and maintain your predetermined conclusions it's abusive to the audience and it's pretty much all alex can do because his
Starting point is 01:13:28 politics suck and he has nothing to offer in terms of information yeah and there's a secondary thing here too and i don't believe that it's necessarily fully what's motivating this but zalinski is really doing some great pr work oh he's killing it and that's a threat to russia oh yeah yeah and they're the pudin standing in the world certainly is threatened by it's already fallen right by the image of the leadership that is being exhibited by zalinski and i do think that there is a slight piece
Starting point is 01:14:02 of this that is trying to tarnish or create like oh it's all it's all fake sure sure and i think that there is a there is a part of it that is in in in service of trying to retain some image of budin at least in as much as alex has invested in that is like the champion against the globalists i mean there's no way for you to continue saying that putin is the champion of the globalists after he didn't just start a war and try and take over a country but also lost or is is is a loser well it's hard you know it's hard for a
Starting point is 01:14:40 strong man to look strong and defeat yeah especially whenever the guy that you're going up against is theoretically just a comedian slash actor well and who doesn't have the the mystique or the power behind a gb nope he's just some guy who just won't fucking give up and to be clear you know we're recording this middle of the day on sunday and you know anything could happen it's not to say that that there is a end to absolutely no so we do not know but their material advantages so
Starting point is 01:15:14 but i think that you can still say based on just about everybody's expectation yeah the notion of russia trying to invade ukraine and it not working in the first couple days yeah is a win in terms of like it's a shocking turn of events yeah it's that's that's more we're talking about as opposed to like no strong man literally losing right he's lost in as much as he has not taken over the country easily yes yeah that is a loss it is it is the loss of what has been his most powerful weapon which is
Starting point is 01:15:50 he looks like he's the fucking most evil super villain strong man in the world and he does whatever he wants without anybody getting his way and he can make people disappear whenever he wants and guess what if you can't do that you don't want people to find out yeah it and yeah it hurts it hurts so i almost said charles schwaab yeah he's evil charles schwaab charles schwaab wants to do the great reason i bet charles schwaab is evil i bet he is
Starting point is 01:16:22 claus schwaab on the other hand nice guy he wants to kill everyone and i know you want to go watch a movie you want to go play pool you want to go eat some enchiladas or a steak you want to go for a hike you want to swim around in the local pool you're like me just a normal person wants to have a life you're not claus schwaab he wants to kill you he sees you as scum he sees you living on his land they stole the world through fraud and they want us dead and if we let them kill us we deserve it in his view
Starting point is 01:16:52 and i think i kind of agree with him and survival of the fittest i don't think he's the fittest i don't think our species should act like this i think he's the disease not us what do you think you want us to die buddy boy well in the words of emperor palpatine no no no no you will die but i don't mean that in an evil way like palpatine i mean politically we're going to defeat and kill your ideas but not harm a little hair on that head sure wouldn't want that to happen you
Starting point is 01:17:24 sack of murdering filth but that sends mixed messages there's a lot of mixed messages in there wonder if that's an intentional strategy alexa uses to incite his audience towards violence while simultaneously providing cover for himself in terms of plausible deniability oh that doesn't sound right what a piece of shit i i do appreciate i do appreciate when you see a fiction writer's hands behind a character's motivations where he's just like traw Schwab class class that's gonna happen forever now
Starting point is 01:17:53 it's all done i broke the uh i think you broke it yeah my head's gone claus Schwab thinks it's okay if you just sit down and let him kill you that's fine now i think that too and you're like then he only thinks it because you think it alex he thinks it if you don't fight back then you deserve exactly and he thinks that because alex thinks that right that's how the yeah you will die also claus rob has uh lightning powers he does he does you have to be real strong with the dark side
Starting point is 01:18:27 beep beep beep beep oh that's the breaking news alarm now breaking news alarm uh oh yep what what happened do you hear that beep beep beep i did i heard it but i thought it was the fire alarm or it's the breaking news alarm okay the an article has just been posted on natural news all right this mega massive natural news dot com story just broke it's an info awards dot com i suggest you share it whoo and this is another piece of the puzzle we know what's going on we know
Starting point is 01:18:56 omicron was made in a lab by white hats the scan's complete it's got wait by white hats more than 50 changes but 20 plus in one area 30 plus in another to kill the spike protein and make it weak and then give you immunity to the spike protein itself very sophisticated genetic engineering wave totally madernan so sophisticated 2016 which has now come out and and so that's what's pissing it still gets you sick but nothing like the other variants well i'm glad i can't wait for this uh to great
Starting point is 01:19:31 follow apart now it's not uh use this as part of his narrative in the future because it's so dumb just never gonna talk about this one again so good guys yeah uh in the virus creating community right white hats right they made omicron yes is a way to provide immunity for everyone right wow at the same time killing the spike protein so i guess that means it cures the vaccine it's a according to him it's a disease cure disease right or it's a vaccine disease curing disease vaccines man i wouldn't
Starting point is 01:20:06 believe this if i hadn't heard it from the health ranger i gotta be honest what kind of dumb white hat hacker or biologist or whatever virus creator virus green all right all right i won't reveal that the whole thing is evil right i would destabilize things totally i will just make the dramatic movie-esque version of the disease itself that cures the disease right i picture it being a team of two people i one of them is like oh my god i must alert the media and the other one grabs him by the shirt collar you fool
Starting point is 01:20:42 there's no time we have to make omicron i i mean this is the this is the plot of cowboy bebop the movie there are nano machines that kill people and then they're like we got to stop this so they make nano machines to stop the nano machines it's the same fucking thing well maybe alex has been branching out and then it's from his dystopian sci-fi great movie to cowboy bebop best soundtrack so yoko kano so at this point on the 25th Putin has made a call for the Ukrainian military to
Starting point is 01:21:15 perform a coup yes which was a swing that's a that's a zygami level swing right there yeah alex thinks it's a great idea i mean look at this Reuters article that's out right now all right is that Bloomberg Putin calls on Ukrainian military to seize power to better negotiate with russia because he knows it's a bunch of globalist factions in there and a bunch of former presidents jockeying for control he's like listen i'll negotiate with the military which is a very smart move i would expect this to be over in 48 hours what do you think wow wow so first of all alex is a
Starting point is 01:21:45 always right uh Putin going on tv and asking the Ukrainian soldiers to turn on their government and overthrow Zelensky yep alex is a piece of shit you should have a military coup the thing that i love secondarily though how does he simultaneously expect this to be over in 48 hours and think that there's a thermonuclear war coming that he's known since last year there was big moves that china and russia were going to make to take over seems like these two things are completely contradictory because they are alex has no attention span and just gets caught
Starting point is 01:22:14 up in talking shit so when he's talking to this caller this is in the context of the call yeah he's talking about about a smart Putin is to make moves like attempting to ferment a coup he loses track of the other shit that he said and he starts floating stuff about how this is going to end in two days right on one hand this is the byproduct of alex not preparing at all and having no actual position on things past knee-jerk reactions and hyper-oppositional defiance on the other hand it's also part of an intentional strategy to overwhelm the audience with
Starting point is 01:22:41 nonsensical and self-contradictory positions so they can't possibly keep track of what's actually being said on the show except for the feelings that alex creates in them we've listened to the past week or so the show and i can't really tell you what alex thinks is happening or not happening because he's been all over the place he has no consistency except in terms of the feeling that he's selling he's selling fear and beyond that he's selling the feeling that Putin is right and is fighting against these globalist boogie men that alex has trained the
Starting point is 01:23:08 audience to fear the information itself is constantly changing and being remoulded with new lies but the emotional core is really what he's selling yeah in terms of this performance yeah and you can see how excited he gets like the opportunity to riff with somebody he's like oh that's a good one oh okay so i think this thing's going to be over in like 48 hours what do you think like you didn't need to stop and be like how does this fit in he would be the best and worst person to have in a writer's room
Starting point is 01:23:34 absolutely also it's 48 hours later now and the war hasn't ended so chalk that one up on my compilation of times that alex got his predictions totally wrong well you've got a longer compilation i do it's not seven minutes it's 600 episodes yeah i was gonna say it's a long string yep so alex has a guest on yay this guy named rois white who's a former basketball player yeah mba player yeah he's uh running for congress in minnesota rois white joins us for two segments i really appreciate him
Starting point is 01:24:06 coming on he just announced a few days ago but he's running for congress and he's a super smart guy i i'm not supporting him in his run against ilhan omar because he's a famous mba player and him m a guy or all that but because he stood up for everybody and against tyranny and against the democratic party and against the corrupt republicans and against uh the chinese communists and the Uyghur persecution so there's two things that i need to make totally clear the first is that alex doesn't give a shit about the Uyghurs he just pretends
Starting point is 01:24:35 to so he can use them as a prop to attack the chinese government yep he said on the show in the past that he doesn't care what the chinese do to them if china would just leave him alone the second thing is that alex would endorse one of michael indel's pillows if it was running against ilan omar so i don't know if i care don't care i don't think this is gonna be good for white's campaign to show up on info wars and this interview could go severely off track uh if the topic of racial justice and white's position on george floyd comes up because he and alex do not see eye to
Starting point is 01:25:03 eye on that they tend not to so here's the deal rois doesn't have a chance of unseating omar as a republican which is how he's running minnesota's fifth district is a democrat plus 29 district so in order for a republican to win you'd have to basically be running unopposed and even though omar gets a lot of shit from the right wing media she's pretty popular in the home district yeah this gets a bit murky though because there's been chaos brewing in the minnesota 2022 midterms
Starting point is 01:25:31 there was a chance that white could have gotten a shot because there was a fight going on over redistricting and if that hadn't been resolved in time minnesota was talking about having to have an at-large election where the political parties put up a feel they field a slate of candidates and then the top nine vote-getters of all of the candidates would win seats in the house Jesus in that situation he could possibly have won one of them along with omar but from everything i can tell the redistricting has been resolved so that process
Starting point is 01:25:58 being done there's no chance and the redistricting of the fifth district has it doesn't help the republicans chance yeah if white wanted to win he should have run against omar in the democratic primary he has widespread name recognition as a former nba player and though she's won her two democratic primaries by decent margins omar is a bit more vulnerable there than she is in the general election anyway this appears to be another doomed congressional candidate showing up on info wars where alex will ultimately create the impression that they're so
Starting point is 01:26:28 far ahead in the polls and the only way they can lose is cheating and then they'll lose and alex will forget about this game until the next election cycle where it'll repeat all over again yep and it's fun yep after he loses Royce white will never be heard from again on info wars no that didn't happen to diana lorraine nope nope didn't happen nope laura loomer's name can't possibly be uttered only by roger stone no no he's no i'm sure roce is gonna have a job
Starting point is 01:26:56 yeah he actually is far more into alex's narratives than i would have hoped oh yeah yeah i kind of uh i kind of hoped that because i was looking up i don't i don't know much about him but he he was an advocate for mental health issues uh in his time in the nba and then he did have some involvement with protests in the wake of george floyd's killing and so i kind of had this thought that like oh maybe this is just a guy who doesn't know what he's getting into going on info wars but immediately he's like alex i'm a huge
Starting point is 01:27:27 fan oh no yep so anyway it's like when we had krs one on there and i'm like yeah uh oh um so the interview itself i don't really care about all that much um but there are a couple things that end up getting said by alex that are woof he's trying to argue that uh white needs to be in in the in the house ah yes we need him yeah he he realizes that he's complaining about ilhan omar and aoc and he has to sort of be like i don't want no women in power yeah and it goes it gets out of control and you know women are great i hope we
Starting point is 01:28:01 get a bunch of women in congress but the end of the day we need men to be men again you imagine congress full of men like roice white at roice white dot us you imagine black white hispanic old young i don't give a damn but men again we need men to stand up and realize it's their responsibility to be leaders it's a genetic fact wow okay so it's a genetic fact that men should be most of the or all of the house in congress i mean that it's really let me let me ask you a question
Starting point is 01:28:34 when was the last time that there was a female majority in congress dan i i i mean wasn't it in 20s 2018 well i mean there would be there would be there jordan yeah would yeah there would be a female majority yeah if it wasn't for the genetics ooh the genetics i forgot about them that's why every time i go outside i can't help but lead something every time i've been in walgreens i've led a revolution every time you come over here to record there's like a marching band every time i mean it's like i'm
Starting point is 01:29:11 the music man i'm the 76 trombones man i got him out there and so alex has a few more thoughts on this subject that are fucking nuts yeah it is it's deeply deeply optimistic i mean it doesn't get more obvious and he has a few more points to make and women have their office and women can do anything they want but women want mentally they don't on average want a bunch of power to be running stuff and any system that sells women being in charge it doesn't really want women in
Starting point is 01:29:40 charge he wants people that can push around in charge wow you're the one who just said you wanted more women in congress no no no he doesn't and he was selling he was literally selling the idea that he does want women in congress no no no he he he wants to give lip service to the idea that he doesn't want no women in congress but yeah if women are in charge that's really just some nefarious plot by another man who wants somebody to push around right he's a real abuse based world view yeah i am shocked uh uh that
Starting point is 01:30:12 that's allowed i mean that's some crow magnum man shit right there that's like well i mean obviously i have a larger club so i can hit you so i'm the leader it's also uh scared oh terrified it he's he's scared that's what he's expressing what if what if women take over in all of the things that i'm a man about don't be important anymore oh i'm so scared it's uh dumb yep so uh he has this interview uh with roice white and then he he takes some calls and then it's the end of the show
Starting point is 01:30:44 um and it's pretty dumb but he does have one caller that i think is actually worth worth bringing attention to okay thank you so much for holding we're gonna go in the order that received mankind in arizona you're first up thank you for holding go ahead oh my god oh my god it's mankind momma foley's baby boy is here he's got a two by four oh my god come on i swear to god what are you gonna do i'm not gonna do anything i'm
Starting point is 01:31:26 just gonna enjoy it but he's gonna lean back i'm gonna put my mic down and i'm gonna smile if alex has a caller named mankind it's uh it's a foregone conclusion anyway had to end things on that really mankind yes no no it wasn't okay okay i'm just just a weirdo he calls himself mankind because i was like i i know mic foley's actually a good dude right why why is he showing up as mankind on info wars as a 30 years later as a caller what's happening no it's just a strange dude okay um thank god yeah so i figured this this episode
Starting point is 01:32:03 sucks in a lot of ways in terms of the content why not leave on a high note um so yeah i think that alex is dealing with the the invasion incredibly poorly he's doing great what we have we have a disagreement no i thought he was just killing it and he's revealed all too clearly that uh he is those the staunch uh supporter of putin's actions i just didn't know that bill gates created moderna in order to facilitate putin doing wait i really don't understand what he's even trying to get at anymore well see yeah natural news has proven right
Starting point is 01:32:38 that omicron was invented by good uh the bio weapon oh so that's omicron persii nine also let's let's think about this for a second yeah that would be a bio weapon yep just because just because it's umably the person who's releasing it thinks it's gonna be good right doesn't it shouldn't alex be like hey this is deeply irresponsible what if something goes wrong with this white hat omicron bio weapon that's been released isn't this against the geneva conventions explain what about informed consent let me throw this at you
Starting point is 01:33:10 has there ever been a 100 percent effective uh virus hmm what do you mean i mean like effective at what exactly could it be there's no way that you can make a virus like at omicron sure even if it's to destroy other viruses without also eventually causing some problems to people oh yeah it would mutate yeah that's how that's how it works yeah but it was a good guy this is stupid very everything alex has to say is stupid and i really want to draw sharp focus to you and i think we achieved
Starting point is 01:33:45 that the the the video that he posted about his prediction is full of shit and if you really trace down the sources yeah you see the the actual intentional misrepresentation of the things that he said in the original episodes in order to create the appearance of predictive power and now he's using that to gain more credibility for his justifications of putin's invasion of ukraine and i think it's important and something that should not be forgotten as time goes on no he's
Starting point is 01:34:17 he's very much 100 for putin invading ukraine i mean it should be should be albatross shit you know around his neck so it should be so uh we'll be back indeed my friend oh yeah but until then we have a website do we it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am dr marbles and now here comes the sex robots andy and chanzas you're on the air thanks for holding
Starting point is 01:34:48 hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love

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