Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 81 - Philippines American War Part 3: War Crimes and Misdemeanors
Episode Date: December 2, 2019At the conclusion of our series on the Philippines American War we dive into the Moro Rebellion and American war crimes so prolific they are turned into things of legend in the modern day. Support t...he show: https://www.patreon.com/creator-home Support Brandon Lee: https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-brandon-lee Follow us on Twitter @lions_by Buy our stuff on Teespring: https://teespring.com/stores/lions-led-by-donkeys-store
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Hello and welcome to yet another episode of the Lions Led by Donkeys podcast.
I'm Joe and with me today is nick in his absolutely terrible november mustache
you know army regs make it look like a pedophile all mustaches look like a pedophile mustache
the i all right so joshua chamberlain's mustache in the gettysburg movie
baller yes can't pull that off here uh i think that the the army recruiting uh system would be much better
if they're like grow whatever the fuck you want yeah it'd be fucking awesome uh i mean but there's
so many people who can't grow mustaches or beards that just walk around look like somebody glued
like pubes to their face um very true yeah because I see that every time I go anywhere.
People are like, yeah, I'm trying to grow a beard.
It's only on your neck.
I don't like the people that just shave the mustache
and leave the beard.
It looks weird.
It's terrible.
Mustaches should never be alone,
but also beards need company.
Mustaches that grow up into your sideburns
hmm like
what are those called
I don't know
a civil war helmet
so
we are on part three
and the final part of the
Philippine American war now
do whatever you want to do,
but I recommend going back and listening to the first.
Oh yeah.
The last one was dope.
I will start this episode with a quote from market Darrow,
it's a writer and researcher from UNC Chapel Hill.
And I'm not quoting him because this college once paid for me to get blackout
drunk.
What up y'all?
But because it is, it is is it's fitting for this episode.
Now, as I as I say this quote, just think of what it could be compared to.
Quote, a distant country, mostly unknown to Americans.
The United States is at war.
The military takes the capital city and captures the foreign leader.
The president announces mission accomplished.
Rebels raid American strongholds and supply lines. The indigenous Muslim population,
hardly loyal to the fallen leader, resents American occupation. Despite inferior firepower,
the insurgents do not surrender. A guerrilla war sets in. Meanwhile, anti-imperialists chastise
the American press for keeping quiet on the war's immorality. They accuse the government of stealing
natural resources.
Soldiers torture captives.
Locals want Americans out.
Terrorism grips the region,
and the world watches on as America is in the hot seat.
Does that sound familiar?
What war?
Which one?
So when we left you last week,
the main Filipino insurgency
against American imperial domination
was brought to an end
as Emilio Alginato finally threw in the towel,
mostly because he was captured,
but it did not mean the people of the Philippines Island were done fighting.
This brings us to the fiercely independent Island of Mindanao.
Ooh,
there is probably a very good reason why America would eventually have such a
hard time attempting to pacify the second largest Island in the entire chain because so had everybody else consider mininao something
of the afghanistan of the philippines oh and yeah that continues kind of today uh the people of the
island had even for the philippines a much different culture and attitude towards outsiders
than other people they long ago converted to Islam,
the oldest mosque being built in the 14th
century. Though there
was some
native animist type religion
floating around in some of the outliers,
but they aren't really what we're going to talk about today.
They had violently rejected
Spanish rule, and they didn't want anything to do
with Emilio's Philippine Republic
either. They clearly just wanted to be left the fuck alone and be allowed to do their own thing.
Rightfully so.
For instance, the Spanish kind of just gave up on trying to bring the island to heel.
Nice.
I would go with that.
Not that surprising.
Instead, they kind of just built a couple outlying forts and just stayed in them.
Don't attack us.
Yeah, they they would lead like punitive expeditions out whenever one of the sultans would get kind of uppity and not listen to them.
But they didn't have a lot of success.
Instead, they decided to just kind of get treaties with all the largest rulers of the area, which happened to work for them.
Oh, that's good.
largest rulers of the area which happened to work for them oh that's good mostly by work for them it meant like they weren't killing spaniards that in large numbers oh in large numbers yeah because
there was there was definitely so here and there well there was still outlying insurgencies like
the the the sulu sultanate which is like the main the main one we're going to talk about
was uh sign tree with the spanish but like there's a lot of other people like no fuck those guys so and like the sulu's didn't control all of mindanao so they're like
this is like yeah we only do so much y'all yeah uh so it should come as a surprise to absolutely
nobody that the people of the island who i will collectively refer to as the moros throughout
this because that is kind of what they're known as moros Moros. So it is based on the Spanish.
So in history, the Iberian Peninsula,
which we now know as Spain,
was invaded by the Moors,
which were Muslim invaders from Africa.
So somehow that name kind of got used on the Philippines too,
just because they're Muslim.
Right.
It just means the Moors.
There's more of them. s'mores of them yes it
doesn't mean that um now they were not going to entertain any of this american bullshit when they
showed up either uh and some moral groups will contend that that is why they still fight today
though a lot of that has more to do with what they now see is ph Philippine imperialism on Taminda now. Though some of it is just straight
up Islamic terror.
There's
layers here. There's layers. It sounds like it.
History is not black and white, and either
is modern day insurgency.
Which is why nobody ever wins
it. There's no chance.
Now American ignorance
to the people they wanted to rule is nothing
new.
The American government had learned from the Spanish that the Moro people were simply not to be fucked with.
So they decided to head this whole thing off by going to, of all people, the Ottoman Empire, which, remember, still existed because it's not World War One yet. the secretary of state went to Sultan Abdul Hamid II and asked that he write the Sulu
Sultanate, which controlled a
large portion of Mindanao, to submit
to American rule in the form of
just kind of transferring the agreement
they had with the Spanish over to
the Americans. Like, look, all you gotta do is change flags.
Nobody gives a shit, right? Cool? We good?
Alright. He also came up with the word, hey.
Now we use it today.
The Sulus simply shrugged and said
Yeah whatever they're just another group of white people
This sounds like a really nice neat way
To end this conflict right
That's it that's the end of the episode
Of course it fucking didn't
So
Before we go into just how wrong all of this was
We have to go into the brainchild
Of this whole idea,
which is an idiot that everybody should remember from episode one.
Elwell Stephen Otis.
God damn it.
Who turns out is not good at this stuff.
Going into this endeavor, Otis thought three things,
all of which were profoundly untrue.
The first was the Sulu Sultanate controlled all of
Mindanao, which it certainly did not.
Second was Otis meant to transfer
the treaty that the Sulu had with the Spanish,
which granted them the status
of sovereign but unequal
state to the Americans.
So, consider his limited autonomy.
I don't understand how he tried doing that.
Well, he wanted...
He didn't understand the status that they had
with the Spanish, is what it comes down to.
He's like, well, whatever. They're just
subjects.
That's all it is. The Spanish are in charge. That's all it is.
But there was like... He didn't understand there's nuances
to this shit. The way the Spanish
got...
In fact, his collaboration
from the Sulu's is like, look, just run your shit
and listen to us from time to
time like what it came down to is like they could rule themselves if they recognize the spanish
throne like they they had they weren't equal to the spanish because no no no they're brown people
they can't do that nope uh but they're like just we won't fuck with each other. Kind of. Okay. So the third one was what I kind of explained.
Otis had no idea the treaty that he meant to transfer did not give Americans complete control.
So he didn't understand anything.
That guy's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He didn't understand the Sulu status within the Spanish Empire, which you think he would have if he just fucking asked the Spanish.
Oh, no.
Which he did not. Why would you do that? He could fucking asked the spanish oh no he did not
fuck he could you do that he could have asked the ottomans they probably knew
when he found i think that he doesn't understand a lot of stuff no he's just a fucking dumbass yeah
so babies come in by bird right this is all stork related so when he found all this out
he thought on his feet the only way that someone like him could do.
He simply made his own goddamn treaty and would get rid of all the special treatment shit.
They bribed the Sultan with a ton of cash in order to get him to sign it.
And when that didn't work, he sailed the USS Charleston right up to their harbor to scare the shit out of them.
Because they had never seen a modern warship before.
So they're like, yeah, fuck it, we'll sign it.
Just don't blow us up.
This became known as the Curum Bates Treaty, and it was a complete
and total farce, and was admitted
to be so by the man put in charge of enforcing
it, General Bates.
Because he said he had no
intention of ratifying it, and it was just
a stalling tactic to be put in place until the
rest of the insurgents, meaning
Emilio Algonato's boys, could be dealt
with, at which point American troops could be shifted onto Mindanao and deal with the Moro.
Which is exactly the same thing they did to Emilio Algenado.
And in that way, it largely worked.
The Americans fought Emilio and his boys, and the South went largely ignored and left to their own devices because they didn't want to fight a two-front war.
That was until it didn't american troops invaded the island and routinely changed the treaty on the fly whenever they wanted to they used the pretense that the
sioux sultanate that the people that they had signed the agreement with was not doing enough
to control the spread of anti-imperialist violence which how could they they didn't have an army yeah
as you can assume the moro people eventually just said fuck it it's time to go to war again Which, how could they? They didn't have an army.
As you can assume, the Moro people eventually just said, fuck it, it's time to go to war again.
Yeah.
So this is from Patricio Albini's book, State and Society in the Philippines.
Quote, they did not want to pay the invader's tax or be subject to his laws.
They did not know or believe that the Americans would respect their religion.
They wanted to be left alone and keep their way of life.
If they had been left alone, they remained in grudging, perhaps
sullen and suspicious, peace.
So, probably
good that the Moro
thought of those things because
they wouldn't have been respected.
I mean, look at the rest of the Philippines.
The main reason why Catholicism
had such a grip is because that's what invaders generally do.
Occupiers, at least back then, would attempt to win over a people and their culture by changing their religion as a form of civilizing them, which I think I talked about before.
Right.
So it's like when the Mormons come to my house and they attack.
Yeah, that's why I just asked them to mow the lawn.
And they do.
What? Yeah. Yeah. If you ask them for favors they'll do it pay my bills yeah uh pet my dog now um i stopped doing that when
i found out that these are like brainwashed children who work for free and then i realized
it was kind of slavery so i was like nope not doing that i just don't answer the door okay
uh so since they had fought the insurgents in the north the americans had learned some pretty slavery. So it's like, nope, not doing that. I just don't answer the door. Okay. So since
they had fought the insurgents in the
North, the Americans had learned some pretty hard
lessons in how to break the will of the people
of the South. And
I think you know what that means. It means search
and destroy missions, torturing captives whenever
whether they be men, women, or children
and throwing everyone they get their hands on into
concentration camps. You know, we just can't leave people
alone.
If only people could be easily controlled and concentrated into,
I don't know, camps?
This could definitely win a war and not make us bad guys.
Summer camps of liberty and freedom.
What's that, Emilio?
Work will set you free?
Perfect.
Put that on the gate now this as you can imagine this eventually
definitely did not make friends with
the Moro community and
the whole island went to war
now if you remember
from the first two episodes
Philippine insurgents did not have the easiest time
getting their hands on guns
sweet machetes though especially not
ammo and the Moro had the same problem though amplified by have the easiest time getting their hands on guns. Sweet machetes, though. Especially not ammo.
And the Moro had the same problem,
though amplified by like times 10.
The main reason why the other islands
had at least some weapons is,
the Americans helped,
but they'd capture a lot from the Spanish,
also some of them had been trained by the Spanish.
As the Spanish never tried to fuck around in Mindanao,
a flood of guns never happened there.
Right.
So there wasn't really much of shit.
So very few modern firearms trickled down to the Moro.
In the very beginning of the insurgency,
like, they did have some repeating weapons,
but most of them were muskets.
Oh, God.
But that did not mean that they wanted to use guns.
Enter the Yoramantatos,
probably the most badass motherfuckers we've ever covered. The who Enter the Euromantatos. Probably the
most badass motherfuckers we've ever covered.
The who? The Euromantatos.
I am probably pronouncing that wrong, but I'm using
a soft J, which is about as good as I can get.
So only the bravest
Moro candidates would be allowed
into their ranks. Because they were considered
religious warriors, the young men had to be selected
by the local imams and confirmed by the
sultan. After that, they would enter
what became known as the path
to paradise.
So the path began with
taking an oath on the Quran.
After that, they took a ritual bath and were
shaved completely bald.
Really? Like, all their body hair was shaved off.
What's the ritual bath?
I'm assuming with axe
body, or like or shower gel.
We must bathe you in gun scent.
Because we don't have any.
What scent is this?
Winter green swords.
Okay.
And then they got their eyebrows done.
Because, I mean, just because you're going to go on a suicide mission doesn't mean you can't look fly as fuck, right?
When I was in middle school, I used to use Cold Steel Axe body spray.
Is that actually a scent?
Yeah.
I know it shouldn't surprise me because they have the weirdest...
They got Africa, Cold Steel.
A scent called Africa?
Yeah.
Swear to God.
They also had a chocolate one, too.
Do you remember that?
No.
No?
God.
I remember that's what high school locker rooms used to smell like.
Guys, body wash and body spray scent names are fucking hilarious.
Women have like-
Swagger.
Lavender Paradise.
Daffodil.
Men is like, guns.
Swagger.
Hand grenade.
Knockout.
Hand grenade.
Dick energy.
Dick cheese away.
It reminds me of like the
only good family guy bit
that I think they've ever done where the guy
sprays himself with axe.
And you know, remember the old axe commercials where women
throw themselves at you, but it was axe for sick
cats. And it was just
like half dead cats crawling towards
him.
I remember the commercial where you had to make an axe on your body
when you used it
such a bad smell
then the Urimantados
would place thick restricting bands
on all of their arms, legs, and torso
and genitals
how do you band that?
it's like really thick metal bands
and I think some of them were rope
but yeah, there's effectively tourniquets
also somewhere on their dick oh so there was a religious symbolism behind this but also it was
practical it restricted blood flow so like if you got shot you wouldn't bleed out immediately you
could just keep on trucking i imagine it'd be hard walking too your mobility sucks at that point
it's like it's like walking around
if you put knee wraps on before you lift.
It's more of a high-speed waddle.
So then they would put on white clothes,
normally they're robes,
and arm themselves with large fucking swords
and machetes.
That's so awesome.
Because if somebody invades your land,
it could only be possibly purified
with sweet, sweet machetes.
Machetes of freedom! That's why the second part was so awesome.
If I'm gonna... A lot of machetes.
If I'm gonna number
my blades of freedom, guillotine's number one.
Two, machete.
Three, uh, what should
number three be? Well, you do
have a kukri on the desk.
But they, like, fucking work for the British Empire.
You can't use them. Sorry. The United Kingdom. I would definitely have a kukri on the desk yeah that but they like fucking work for the british empire they can't use
them sorry the united kingdom i would definitely have a bolo bolo knife but bolo knife's kind of
machete yeah yeah fuck it two machetes it's it's all machetes yeah bayonet machete i mean like i
said before all a guillotine is isn't it is a It's a chainsaw from Gears of War. Deal. On my weapon.
Okay, yeah. Okay, so
you have a machete. I have a musket and a
chainsaw. Let's say you need an attachment
onto that machete. Grenade launchers have not been
invented yet. Your machete has
a pick-and-inny rail system
with a laser pointer on it.
Oh, I hope somebody makes that.
And a bayonet like freedom is always
it's only one through machetes only the only true freedom is ever one through machetes or
bladed weapons like the there's a whole movie made about it so all right freedom can only be
one through machetes or danny trejo yeah and i'm still waiting for the other one to come out where
he has to go to space that's the official uh podcast stance now is Danny Trejo is the number one freedom fighter on Earth.
Yes.
Which is why when I come back, we're watching Blood In Blood Out because he's in it.
Okay.
And it's from my hometown.
So the Yoramitados obviously wouldn't like line up and run at people.
That kind of defeats the purpose.
Stupid.
They would lie in wait and ambush approaching enemy formations imagine the white robes don't help no they weren't exactly camouflage
but they need they even though they're religious suicide warriors effectively they knew they had
to still get close so they weren't gonna be dumb about it i mean if you're gonna get a sword fight
if you're gonna bring a sword to a gunfight yeah you gotta bring some brains too yeah i'd have a
spider hole um so they'd lie in wait for the enemy to come towards them.
And they'd spring out and start fucking chopping people to bits.
Oh, God.
Now, pretty much everybody noted that you could not shoot these guys once and bring them down.
Like, they would just take multiple bullet holes.
And there's also accounts, and I think it was in a movie as well,
where they got bayoneted, and they held on to the rifle, pulled themselves closer under the bayonet so they could stab somebody oh god
just going slowly into their body no no no you like no you you bayonet someone that you
smile like now i have you right where i want you like oh you plan this
now uh there has been and i'm sure you have heard it although there's a lot of people listening to
this podcast who have heard it a whole lot of horrific urban legend slash real shit surrounding
what uh american methods were used to attempt to stop these fanatical swordsmen. Some of which continue to get brought up to
this day. Really?
Because time is a big, dumb, flat circle.
Now, they are
based in reality, and I'll go through them.
This includes the story of General Blackjack
Pershing, officially ordering
the execution of Moro people
with bullets dipped in pig's blood.
Jesus Christ. Now,
for people who are unaware, for whatever reason,
pigs and pork, among other things,
are considered haram for Muslims.
You can't eat it, and stuff like that.
Everybody should know this by now.
It's such a vet bro meme.
Exactly.
It just happened.
Blackjack Pershing is the originator of Black Rifle Coffee.
Like, oh my God.
Use the bacon grease from the bacon we just made yeah
now obviously the really fucking galaxy brain idea here is if you shot someone with a bullet
gun in pig's blood they would not go to heaven this never happened um nor is there any historical
evidence that says that they actually did now i normally would say this is a war full of war crimes. This could have happened, and sure.
In the realm of
possibility, it may have
occurred, but Blackjack Pershing never ordered this
to happen. And I say this
because at the time, America never had any
problems keeping all this shit on paper and talking
about it in autobiographies. Oh, yeah.
They were like, yeah, we did this.
Isn't it badass? This is
a weird racist meme
that a bunch of idiot
racist Islamophobes
on Facebook or maybe your family Thanksgiving
and also
our current president continues
bringing up. Thanksgiving.
Now, when
I tell you, and I
just already brought him up,
that this myth has been peddled by the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump himself.
It is true.
Now, I have a quote while he was on the campaign trail.
So back then, he was just that guy who went bankrupt a lot running casinos.
Quote, Persian caught 50.
All right, before I start this quote, I'm not misspeaking.
This is just how he talks.
Oh.
Quote, Pershing caught 50 terrorists who did tremendous damage.
And he took the 50 terrorists and he took 50 men and dipped 50 bullets in pig's blood.
You heard about that?
He took 50 bullets and dipped them in pig's blood.
And then he had his men load up the rifles and he lined up 50 people and he shot 49 of those people.
And the 50th person, he said, you go back to your people and tell them what happened.
For 25 years, there wasn't a problem.
End quote. Never
happened. Also, that
word salad is a direct quote.
At a later date, he claimed it wasn't for
25 years, but 42 years.
Neither one of those things happened. War continued until
fucking World War I.
But it never happened.
There's not a single documented historical
piece of evidence that this happened.
And I'm not absolving American soldiers of sin,
which we're about to talk about
of horrible shit.
They actually did.
Another popular story
was that there's an
American standing policy
of burying the dead swordsmen
or insurgents
with the bodies of pigs.
This changes to the entrails of pigs,
depending on who tells the story.
You can imagine
how horrible the story is
since it has been co-opted into the American forever war that has destroyed the middle east and afghanistan
one thing this definitely happened and it happened a lot uh but it's not some kind of standing policy
i think that needs to be like it happened but people say that this was like roe or some kind
of standing operation
procedure like that.
You'd get a pamphlet when you came to the Philippines,
like this is how you discard the dead.
Also that the main,
the main myth here is that it worked though.
I'm not arguing that happened.
It definitely happened.
I will read quotes about it happening,
but the main myth here is the reason why we should talk about this.
And when it comes to our current war is because it worked.
It fucking didn't.
It absolutely didn't.
The Moros are still fighting.
It is 2019.
Now, some units did this and some units did not.
But it is important to note that officers made no attempt to control their men, at least none that I found.
And Pershing himself found out about the practice he took when
he took command and he said he approved it
but the practices kind
of accepted to have started with Colonel
Alexander Rogers of the 6th Cavalry
Regiment because of course it
goes back to a cavalry regiment always
but
like we kind of pointed out before something's really
really widespread officer doesn't stop it it's
kind of implying agreement making it sort of a non formal policy if you will kind of pointed out before, if something's really, really widespread and an officer doesn't stop it, it's kind of implying agreement,
making it sort of a non-formal policy,
if you will.
Kind of like executing members of the SS
for the Western powers in World War II.
People just did it a lot.
Though, in a war where actual written orders
were given to execute POWs
and kill all men above the age of 10,
it was kind of shocking it was not a written order.
Like, I just assumed it would be at this point.
Yeah.
But Pershing did write about it in his autobiography.
He said, quote,
Urim and Tato attacks were materially reduced
in number by the practice the army had already adopted,
one that the Mohammedans held in abhorrence.
The bodies were publicly buried
in the same grave with a dead pig.
Okay.
Now, Pershing says that that
stopped attacks and it didn't the largest bad the largest battle hadn't even happened in the war yet
um but yeah it it continues but also i think pershing may have believed that it was working
because maybe it was less attacks that he saw yeah also the moral rebellion didn't have like
a huge body count for American soldiers.
Not that many died. Yeah, there wasn't any GoPro
footage of this. Now, the
Philippine-Americans War had a much higher body
count, but they were also fighting
a much more organized, well-armed, and well-trained
resistance. So,
they really can't be compared.
What is important
to note here is that idiots cite these gross war crimes
being what finally broke the back of the Moro Rebellion.
It absolutely was not.
It infuriated people to see their dead buried in such a way,
swelling the ranks of the insurgents and kind of knitting a kind of
solidarity between the Euromatados and the people that wanted to fight the
Americans and civilians who kind of want to stay out of it,
like the fence sitters of an insurgency like people may have not wanted to throw down and actually
fight but they're like i'm gonna support them now yeah which is you push them to that point
that's fucking how counterinsurgency works or doesn't work for that matter the circle yeah the
idea of the leading like that this brought an end
to the war is
trying to argue that what Robert
Bales did was a positive.
Oh my god.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, if we just unleash ten of those guys,
the Taliban's will to fight
will be broken. That's just not how it works.
Over. Yeah, that's not how it works.
This is the type of shit that people who claim restrictive rules of engagement, or if we took the gloves off, so to say, is why Americans lost in Vietnam, Iraq, or whatever the next place we're going to invade is going to be.
We like send our Uncle Roy and turn the Middle East into a glass pit like he would like.
Yeah.
This is a lot like have you read or
watched all quite on the western front i have so when the main character goes home and he because
he's been wounded uh and he is like a whole bunch of old guys are talking about the war yeah and
he's like and the main character's like no that that won't work like a ton of people are gonna die
and and nothing's nothing's gonna happen and uh the old
guys who are not veterans and not in the military are like no no you don't understand you only see
your one little slice of the war you're not seeing the full picture you're just like
exactly yeah oh god such a good movie though uh so one thing that did stop the swordsmen
was exactly what you would think would stop them.
Soul blades.
Guns.
Oh, fuck.
Now, American soldiers were armed with a Krag-Jorgensen rifle, which was powerful, but had numerous problems in the climate of the islands.
Also, it was bolt action.
It's not like it was a semi-automatic rifle.
So fighting charging swordsmen is kind of hard when you have to stop and work a bolt.
Yeah.
swordsman is kind of hard when you have to stop and work a bolt yeah um but that did not stop this gun from becoming a lyric in a popular song of the time uh amongst u.s soldiers and the populace
uh that went and this is true quote under our starry flag civilize them with a crag
what fucking white people that sounds like shit. Because our history is just racist and dumb.
God.
No, I'm laughing at that because I could see someone singing that.
I could totally see somebody singing that.
I could see somebody trying to make an updated one.
Yeah, definitely.
So, okay, while we're on the subject of super racist American songs,
and this episode keeps going,
well, this is a little off topic,
but we're going to talk about a 1903
operetta called the
Sultan of Sulu, which
featured a white man painted up to
be described as a, quote, Orientalist
clown face, and the
guise of a moral leader.
He was a brown face.
In case you thought that was
something that ended in the 1800s.
This is 1903.
The operetta featured a chorus of soldiers that sang verses like,
We want to assimilate, if we can, the brother who is brown.
We love our dusky fellow man, and we hate to hunt him down.
So when we perforate his frame, we want him to be good.
We shoot at him to make him tame but if he
understood what the fuck holy shit i know that had nothing to do with the war really but like
what the fuck and this is how like press and popular media and and and like a narrative
makes war okay yeah it's like you're singing like hey
i want to be friends but i have to shoot him that's cool too yeah but like dude that's his
fucking country like leave him alone no man when i i wanted to find a clip of the operetta and i
could not uh but i did find pictures of a guy in brown face uh which shouldn't surprise anybody
uh because he's the prime minister of canada hey oh really oh yeah we don't get anybody because he's the Prime Minister of Canada. Ayo! Really?
Yeah, we don't get the dog
in Canada often, but that's a
Justin Trudeau burn.
Rare.
But not as rare as him in Blackface.
Oh, nice.
Another problem was that soldiers
were routinely ambushed before they could have a chance
to bring their rifles to bear or have to cycle
a bolt action over and over again. They didn't have a chance to sing their song. Yeah. Quick to cycle a bolt action over and over and have a chance to sing their song yeah quick everybody civilize them with a crag i
can't brent i have a sword in my chest fucking a fabian xavier uh fucking braxton god i think we just killed a lacrosse team uh so a lot of times people resort to using pistols uh they could draw them faster and
shoot and shoot faster like i mean they at first they had a 38 revolver which fucking sucks um and
the 38 revolver was such a piece of shit that moro uh swordsman would just run right through
the bullets and there was actually some people that went back to a black powder 45 caliber revolver because it would blow fucking cantaloupe
size holes of people uh and so like the people try to use the 38 because it fires fashion the
crag jorgensen also soldiers are soldiers they want to carry their goddamn rifle everywhere
in the jungle fuck that dude so like yeah let's carry your revolver, fuck it.
So,
yeah, it just wasn't working. It was really, really underpowered. Which brings us
to the development of
a historic weapon of war and fetish
for the tactical boomers everywhere to the current
day. Really? Colt 1911
45! Oh, goddammit.
Yep, a gun you cannot
scroll through Facebook without seeing your stupid
friend buying for a1,000.
Now, this new handgun would drop people with pretty much a single shot, assuming the person had a good aim.
Which, you know, that meant that these suicide charges stopped working effectively.
They still totally happened.
But the Americans who were getting slashed up pretty severely would
not lose
per se we're not talking about squads
getting overran on the regular here
it didn't really happen
it was a rarity
I don't think
it was the Urim and Tad was goal
maybe it was in some cases
but they were just trying to do as much damage as they can
yeah
honestly that's fucking terrifying Maybe it was in some cases, but they were just trying to do as much damage as they can. Yeah.
Honestly, that's fucking terrifying.
Yeah, that's scary.
I would hate to see that shit.
Imagine, like, I would much rather square up with a guy with a rifle at, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Even with an eye shot.
Because I would hate to get fucking slashed by a machete.
Yeah, that shit would fucking suck.
And you know it's coming for your hands first.
Yeah.
Because it has a gun in it. Yep.
That's not happening.
And I mean,
I think you could feasibly call the urban titles,
a terror weapon.
And I don't mean that in like an Islamophobic way.
I mean that in like,
when you look at other weapons that didn't do as much damage as you think
they did,
but just they sweep terror throughout the ranks,
like a sniper or a kamikaze.
I don't even think they meant meant that to be a terror weapon.
That's just what they had.
Yeah.
And it just fucking blows if you're on the other side of it.
Yeah.
And they did what they had to do.
Yeah.
Like we have farm equipment.
Fuck you.
What do we have laying around?
I got these bands for my dick and I got this machete.
All right, let's do this.
So take our cock piece out and slam them
with it slam on our holy religious cock ring and start slashing motherfuckers um now this kind of
worked and the tide of the war i mean the title war is never on the moro side um like emilio
agonado had um feasibly had a chance to make the Americans not want to fight him anymore.
Moro never really had that.
They were never winning.
But they kept fighting.
They rarely attempted to engage a large group of American soldiers,
knowing that it wasn't really their strong suit,
and instead stuck to ambushing them.
This led to the Americans chasing ghosts and attempting to corner Moros and force them to fight.
If this rings any bells, yeah,
you're not wrong.
If the posts were there back then,
come out, fight, you fucking
cowards. If they just stand up
and fought me like a man,
why the fuck would they do that? Yeah, why would I?
Why don't you grab a machete and try to fight like
one of them? See how that goes? Yeah.
This finally,
so the Americans finally found a way to corner
these guys at the battle of bud dujao now i have to call it the battle of bud dujao because that
is generally what is known as but it's not widely accepted to be a battle uh bud dujao was a secluded
area settled into the crater of an extinct volcano which is pretty fucking metal right yeah like if you were
gonna set up a secret base you set it up in a volcano oh yeah dude good choice uh i was chosen
as a place to flee by the locals because it was incredibly hard to get to uh there's only a few
main roads uh into the area but the but it was just like it was kind of like a spider web of
countless small trails that led up to that but but only the locals knew about those trails.
So there's really easy escape routes.
American patrols had been making people's lives a living hell.
They've been poisoning wells, like we talked about,
killing livestock, destroying crops.
Just the simple act of surviving kind of became a chore.
Bud DeJao had enough fresh water to change all that,
and they even could grow crops.
So they could kind of just start their weird refugee commune away from American soldiers.
For a while, anyway.
Eventually, several hundred people, some of whom were fighters, moved into the area.
The Americans had heard about it and sent someone to man they returned to their homes.
To which they obviously refused.
The crater was a traditional place for the local community to gather when they were threatened to the American authorities.
This is considered a challenge because remember their,
their way of winning this war so far had been trying to separate fighters from
the civilians and putting those civilians in concentration camps.
Um,
this was a direct challenge to that for very obvious reason.
That was when General Leonard Wood.
Yes, that Leonard Wood, the same one who has a military base named after him,
ordered Colonel J.W. Duncan to attack Bud DeJou.
Duncan brought with him a battery of artillery, a gunboat, machine guns, and around 750 men.
The moros of Bud DeJou knew that this was coming and set up blockades in the road to try to slow them down.
But they were forced to
launch attacks on the advancing soldiers
with not really much.
They fought with machetes, swords,
spears, and seashells
full of gunpowder that they would
light and throw like hand
grenades, which is fucking
awesome. Just seashells
trapped? Yeah. Fucking Ariel blew me up! grenades which is fucking awesome just seashell shrapnel yeah
fucking ariel blew me up
i imagine looking
this is some like
fucking uh god
i can't think of the show anymore
um macgyver
macgyver like a more
a moral fighters
like looking around like i have all this gunpowder
no gun and rock no pine cone no seashell you know they had to experiment someone definitely blew their hand
off trying to make this work we need to get the right timing oh fuck somebody attach a sword to
his other hand he'll be okay oh machete hand machete hands yes i sacrificed my hands for the
glory of the people yeah dude eventually uh and unfortunately for the fighters uh they were
eventually become surrounded um and they had nowhere to go because they were fighting with
the backs against the wall there were civilians there they didn't want to abandon the volcano
wasn't gonna help yeah i mean if the volcano gods could kick this motherfucker around right quick and just
Pompeii this entire area,
that'd be great. Nobody wins.
I might not win,
but I'll take all of you down with me.
Eventually,
they had to withdraw into
the center of the crater.
Soldiers advanced machine guns and cannons onto
the ridge of that crater and
began firing indiscriminately
into the crater, which is home to hundreds
of civilians.
Of the 1,000 Moro who moved into
the crater, only six survived the
assault. What?
In the days after the attack, President
Teddy Roosevelt wrote to Wood saying,
quote, I congratulate you and the
officers and the men of your
command upon their brilliant feet of arms.
We're in.
And you shall uphold the honor of the American flag.
Now, this is where a number of people are like, whoa, Joe, you're being awfully reactionary.
It's 1906.
It's not like he knew that there's hundreds of dead civilians.
This information takes a long time to come stateside.
And that's where I tell you you're fucking wrong because there's newspapers
involved. He not
only had the information provided to him from the military,
he knew the civilian
cost of the battle because everybody else did too.
This is
now widely accepted to be a mass
slaughter and was known almost
immediately on March 11th
1906, edition
of the New York Times times which was seven days after
the massacre and about the same time roosevelt made his statement ran a headline that said quote
women and children killed in the morrow battle mingled with warriors felled by shot four days
of fighting 900 persons killed president weir's congratulations to the troops jesus fucking christ now he's a jolly good fellow rough riders
teddy roosevelt has never seen a dead brown person he did not be like perfect
fucking asshole now did you ever hear about teddy roosevelt so he wasn't president anymore when
world war one started and he like demanded to raise a regiment of volunteers to lead to the Did you ever hear about Teddy Roosevelt? So he wasn't president anymore when World War I started.
And he demanded to raise a regiment of volunteers to lead to the Western Front.
And the president's like, bro, you're like 70.
No.
Go fuck yourself.
He never saw an opportunity to kill someone that he wanted to pass by.
I think the best thing I've ever seen him in was Night at the Museum.
When Robin Williams was actually him.
It's much better to think of Teddy Roosevelt as a coked up Robin Williams than
actually Teddy Roosevelt.
Yeah.
And this is like one of those times
where white people just be fucked up.
And that's true.
But there's a lot of people in America
who
immediately said there's something fucking wrong here.
Including our buddy Mark Twain again.
Mark Twain is the shit. I love Mark Twain.
He called US soldiers
Christian butchers and uniformed
assassins. Mark
Twain, welcome to Antifa.
Come on the
podcast whenever you'd like.
When the Secretary
of War Taft demanded an explanation from general
wood dude wood said that women and children had dressed as warriors picked up weapons and
attacked yourself now some of this is true really there's firsthand accounts of women
because why the fuck wouldn't they they probably knew they were all gonna die into a corner yeah
yeah okay yeah their kids are there man they're They're going to fight. That makes sense.
J.W. Duncan, the man who's actually in command that day,
remember, Leonard Wood gave the orders and then sat back on, you know,
wherever his orders came from,
hundreds of miles away.
J.W. Duncan was actually there.
Directly contradicted General Wood.
He said,
the high level of civilian casualties
are because he used machine guns and artillery
directed directly at them.
Like, well, that'll do it.
This is another episode with a pit
where people die.
Yeah, like, uh, Colonel Duncan,
why do you believe that, uh,
oh, the civilian said, oh, because we pointed machine guns
at him. Like, oh,
okay, okay.
But what if, like, no, no, no, it was the artillery
too. Like, they just killed so many people.
You didn't see a problem with it, mind
you, but yeah.
Several American soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor
for the mass slaughter of Moro civilians. The fuck did they do?
Making it shockingly similar
to the Wounded Knee Massacre.
If you're not aware, like, 20
Medals of Honor were given out for that.
Jesus Christ. I didn't know there was 20 given out for it. There's a lot. I don't know if it's 20. medals of honor were given out for that. Jesus Christ.
I didn't know there was 20 given out for it. There's a lot.
I don't know if it's 20.
Someone's going to prove me wrong on that.
But it's a lot.
But it does have to bear in mind the medal of honor is not the same award that it is today.
Oh, no, it's not.
But it's still an award for slaughtering civilians.
And even now we recognize it as a high level, obviously.
Yeah.
So back then, the way we look at it a high level, obviously. Yeah. So back then,
when we look at it,
so fuck that.
This is widely recognized by historians say to be a massacre to the point that admitted giant piece of shit.
Uh,
Filipino leader,
Rodrigo Duterte continues to drag it,
to use it,
to drag Americans,
which like,
this is like the moment where like that,
the worst part of the person who hate the most is
right about something you're like fuck mr turtley is a piece of shit but yeah smith you reloaded
that machine gun so fast medal of honor way to kill those civilians rupert medal of honor yep
yep like most things nobody's ever punished for this. Though General Wood was fired from his position.
What'd he do?
He was...
I'm trying to figure out a good way
to explain this.
He was fired, which is never
a good look, though he was relieved of command.
He made up for this
by taking full responsibility
for the actions at Bandejao.
This is considered a very officerly and gentlemanly thing to do.
And only a man with honor would do such a thing.
And he was applauded for it.
He was not demoted.
Oh,
okay.
Yep.
Yep.
He kind of read it,
read it,
uh,
wrote a desk during world war one.
Um,
and then he became,
wait for it,
wait for it.
The governor general of the Philippines in 1921.
What a good guy.
Yeah, he committed a mass, he ordered a mass slaughter
and then became in charge of the whole operation.
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
I hope, uh, uh, uh, fucking,
it's like making Hitler the Prime Minister of Israel.
Oh, man.
Like, what the fuck?
Now, I'm not saying the two are equal,
but it's the same ballpark.
I mean, you pulled the ball there.
Yes, yeah.
Now, if you thought Blackjack Pershing, the guy who replaced Wood,
maybe learned a lesson at Bud DeJount, you'd be new to our show.
And also, you're very, very, very wrong.
Pershing conducting the same kind of attack in a different crater.
This one named Bud Budzak.
What craters are on this island?
Oh, there's a lot of volcanoes.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, islands are formed by volcanoes, there's a lot of volcanoes. There are islands. I mean, islands are formed by volcanoes.
There's a lot of volcanoes.
Don't volcano shame people, Nick.
I just want to know how many craters there are.
We we stay in the volcanoes here.
I would just stay away from craters at that point.
Yeah, well, I mean, there's still it's still solid.
Like the Americans probably won't come into your volcano.
Volcano.
Yeah, they'll just sit at the ridge and kill everybody you love. solid like the Americans probably won't come into your volcano volcano crater.
They'll just sit at the ridge and kill everybody you love.
Now this time instead of using all American soldiers he used
American trained Filipino soldiers.
Oh yeah.
Set them on their own countrymen. Though it should be
noted that there's a very good chance they didn't see them
like that. They didn't see them as Filipinos.
Right. So you know if I if I'm Conker type shit.
This time, the Moro forced her civilian population of around 10,000 to flee,
knowing what would happen to them.
Though some refused to leave, like people's wives, kids.
They're like, fuck you, now I'm staying.
That type stuff.
In the end, about 500 fighters held the crater
and fought the incoming soldiers until they were all dead. of pershing aides wrote quote one of our old-time sergeants shouted to his men be alert
they're going to charge they've gotten themselves all dressed up to die which means like the white
clothes they rushed up the slope in staggered waves but our men stood firm and fired long
rolling volleys that dropped the gaily decked figures like broken dolls they charged their
charge ended as quickly as it began.
Not one managed to reach our trenches,
such as the do or die bravery of the Moro.
Yep.
Yep.
Though,
like before the Americans ordered them to disarm and they refused,
uh,
no quarter would be given,
um,
to anyone that meant women and children to which Pershing's AIDS had about
5% of the dead were women or children.
So you could assume it was probably a little higher.
It's kind of a weird kind of math to do.
And this was in June
1913.
Just a little bit more than a year
before the outbreak of World War I. Wow.
Yep. Which Pershing would go on
to kind of become a hero in
for doing mostly nothing.
But yeah. That's how you do it.
Yep. It was finally around this time
that the U.S. military decided
the Moro lands should be placed
under a civilian government,
thinking it no longer needed
a general to run it.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
Finally, the Moro would be able
to rule themselves
in a larger colony,
at least bringing the war to an end.
Nope, nope.
The first civilian governor
was a white guy named Frank.
Yeah, white guys have to run it.
It's just some guy named Frank that Pershing picked.
You think brown people can run themselves?
Don't be silly.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Harumph.
Smug bastards.
I just spontaneously developed a walrus mustache, as we said that.
Oh, yeah.
And a monocle just flew nowhere under your eye.
I just look like the Monopoly guy, but somehow more evil.
The Monopoly guy would totally be down with colonialism.
He's a racist, fuck.
You know it. The Monopoly
guy says the N-word all the time.
You ever go down his fucking streets?
You crossed go.
Oh, what? What's your name?
Nick Casanova?
Ah, go to jail. Go directly to jail.
Slightly Hispanic, huh?
Hmm, broken windows.
The Philippines would function as a colony of the U.S. until they were given independence after World War II.
Though the U.S. retained a lot of power within governmental institutions.
So much so, you could rightly consider it a puppet regime for decades.
I wish I could write that this is where the war was over.
But a low, simmering moral uncertainty continues to this very day, and varying degrees of violence
with fractious groups of militias, some of whom have sworn allegiance to ISIS, others
are more political rather than religious.
Studying that too long is like staring into a madness room.
I'm not going to get too far into that.
But a lot of this is due to colonial practices put in place by the United States and various brutal Filipino dictators like Fernan Marcos, who we supported.
All done with the moral and material support of the United States.
During the reign of Marcos, thousands were killed and tens of thousands were jailed.
Many more were simply disappeared, never to be heard from again. When Marcos
was forced from power, he was led to come to
the U.S. for exile, where he died in peace.
Oh, okay.
Happy endings. Today,
Rodrigo Duterte, a man who once
ran death squads and said he wished he could have raped
a woman before she was killed by one of them, is in charge.
He has favorably compared himself to
Hitler as attempting to murder his
way out of a drug problem. the number of dead is somewhere around 30 000 and rising rapidly we support him
too uh we have a ton of military bases there yep this brutality has been visited on political
enemies and dissidents our researcher robert chang recently had a friend who was nearly killed by an
off-duty cop in a suspected assassination for daring to speak up for environmental
rights. His friend, Brandon
Lee, survived, but it cost
him and his family
pretty much everything. I think
he said north of $200,000
has been spent on medical treatment
and effectively exiled
because he had to run for his life.
If you'd like to support Brandon's
recovery and his resettlement here in the United States, you can find the GoFundMe exile because he had to run for his life yeah um if you'd like to support brandon's uh recovery
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killing our livers um solid choice yeah uh in in in robert our our, pointed out that a lot of things left behind by the Americans still exist.
Like his parents were taught or had to go to school only in English.
Yeah, stuff like that.
All the colonial institutions that normally pop up were built.
That kind of propped up that kind of colonial institution.
And it still is largely existing.
I mean, that kind of stuff doesn't go away in a generation or two.
It takes forever.
And it is hilarious watching him try to tell people about this on Twitter.
He had a guy say, some guy said,
we rapidly gave them independence. He's like, it took 60 years a guy say, uh, uh, some guy said like, we rapidly gave them independence.
Like,
he's like,
it took 60 years.
Like,
what about all the concentration camps?
He's like,
those are resettlement camps.
Oh,
fucking Christ.
Um,
yeah.
Yeah.
Um,
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history always is uh question from the legion yeah we forgot to do that the last two weeks
because we were too drunk oh yeah uh i think um so this question is uh do you know the people
that you do interviews with um or like have you met them in person? Have we ever brought them in and interviewed them?
No.
I've pretty much met everybody through Twitter.
Though at one point, Tom got the double header
because I knew him on Twitter
and then he did our German Armor episode.
And then he moved here
and came and recorded in person for the NRX series.
So yes, I invited a stranger from the internet into my home.
Awesome.
I have not been kidnapped yet.
I don't think they want to kidnap you.
What do you have to give them?
Nothing.
They'd probably just kidnap my dog.
At least she's worth something.
Yeah.
And people actually like her.
She's adorable.
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Yep.
So before we go,
I'd just like to say thank you again to Robert Chang for everything he did
for this series.
This is outstanding,
great research.
I can't wait to work with him again.
Awesome.
For everybody else that just tuned in,
thank you for taking this incredibly depressing journey through.
Yeah,
none of it ended well.
Through Spanish colony to drug Hitler.
God,
the people of the Philippines.
If you're listening to us,
please don't.
I'm pretty sure this is probably illegal now.
Uh,
good luck guys.
Later.