Mark Bell's Power Project - Cutting Edge Anti-Aging Protocols That Will Slow AGING, Gain MUSCLE, & Live LONGER - Dr. Adeel Khan || MBPP Ep. 990

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

In episode 990, Dr. Adeel Kahn, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about the latest cutting edge technology in Plasma Gene Therapy, a proven way to inhibit myostatin to gain muscle with ease, and penis enlargement. Follow Dr. Khan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.akhan/   Official Power Project Website: https://powerproject.live Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw   Special perks for our listeners below! ➢ https://Peluva.com/PowerProject Code POWERPROJECT15 to save 15% off Peluva Shoes!   ➢https://drinkag1.com/powerproject Receive a year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 Travel Packs!   ➢ https://withinyoubrand.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off supplements!   ➢ https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off all gear and apparel!   ➢ https://mindbullet.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off Mind Bullet!   ➢ https://goodlifeproteins.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save up to 25% off your Build a Box   ➢ Better Fed Beef: https://betterfedbeef.com/pages/powerproject   ➢ https://hostagetape.com/powerproject to receive a year supply of Hostage Tape and Nose Strips for less than $1 a night!   ➢ https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!!   ➢ Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 Pumps explained: https://youtu.be/qPG9JXjlhpM   ➢ https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/powerproject to save 15% off Vivo Barefoot shoes!   ➢ https://vuori.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order at Vuori!   ➢ https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro at 8 Sleep!   ➢ https://marekhealth.com/PowerProject to receive 10% off our Panel, Check Up Panel or any custom panel!   ➢ Piedmontese Beef: https://www.CPBeef.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150   Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://www.PowerProject.live ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject   FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell   Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en   Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz   #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast #markbellspowerproject

Using cell and gene therapy, we can make your penis larger. It's called cloned hair stem cells. They effectively cure baldness. There's a lot of benefits to the plasma gene therapy. The first one we did was called phallostatin. Not only does it inhibit myostatin, so it increases lean body mass, it's super anti-catabolic.

Even the people who weren't exercising, some of them increase their lean body mass. And the phallostatin increases bone density as well. How? Well, how? I've done it for NFL guys too. WADA can't test for it, and there's been no adverse effects. Gene-edited embryos are a real thing now. It just, it opens on Pandora's box.

It could elevate an individual's testosterone, but they are producing that on their own. We put the gene in for testosterone. It's literally a subcutaneous injection. Even if you have severe dementia, you can usually take them back a stage. So if you have severe, you can go to moderate. If you have moderate, you can go mild.

If you have mild, you can go back basically being normal. We can treat autism and cerebral palsy. Anything new or different with like peptides? And that's a mitochondrial peptide. I've had NHL athletes who said it changed their whole game. They're not going to take off because they're not patentable. They made it clear that they do not care about people. They don't care about health. They care about profits. How do we, where do we get this? It was like this bacon fat or like, what do we got to do well as a regenerative medicine doctor my thing is always looking at the latest technology and so one of the things we can do using cell and gene therapy is we can make your penis larger wow so why would people be seeking that out i don't know i thought

uh so the interesting thing is, so the gene therapy has been done in mice. So it's actually a myostatin inhibitor as well, but it's specifically in the penis. So it can make it about at least 14% larger based off the animal studies. Flaccid or? Are you guys getting these mice?

Erect mice? I just want you guys to have a mental image of an erect mouse right now. Mice are getting so fucked over all the time, but these lucky mice end up packing some serious heat, right? A lot of times mice are getting wax on their head. They're doing all this crazy shit to them, starving them. Tumors everywhere? Yeah.

It's crazy. All of a sudden mice are getting lined up like, be next. We're making the world a better place. Let's crazy. All of a sudden mice are getting lined up like, be next. We're making the world a better place. One mouse penis at a time. But the fat graft is actually a procedure that's been done for breast augmentation as well. It's where you actually just harvest your own fat. Harvest your own fat.

I love the sound of that. But it's pretty cool because the fatty tissue has some stem cells in there, but you can use it as a scaffold and you can seed it with actual stem cells. And what that'll do is that'll actually make whatever organ or tissue you're injecting larger. So you've probably heard of women getting stuff done in their cheeks to make their cheeks bigger. That's like fat graft. So a lot of times, because that's permanent, unlike fillers,

which are just there know they're for six months or whatever and they dissolve so you can do that for breasts but you can also do that for penis now and we have our urologist who does that specifically for that so with it being fat if you drop down to like five percent body fat will it start to pull from those areas that you got the fat injected into no so the fat once's injected, it responds to the local signals, so it actually turns into the local tissue. So it's actually going to turn into normal breast tissue or normal penis tissue all the time.

John Cena just fainted. Like, my dick needs to go on a diet. Got too much fat in it. What is wrong with us? Okay, I know we're laughing at this, but it's actually something that does, you know, you're doing it. It's going to be really popular if it works well. My question, do you guys ever end up with people with like misshapen dicks?

Actually, we use it to treat Peyronie's disease, which is a condition where you get like fibrotic tissue. And so that disease actually gets curvature of the penis. So we can actually use the stem cells in the fat graft to fix it. So it's the opposite. Yeah, it's actually great. It can be. And I mean, this is actually very important because if you're a guy and your dick is curved, you can't do what you want to do with women, right?

You're like, it sucks. And it's different angles, maybe. Yeah. And creative. And you're kind of like, you literally can't, you can't do anything in terms of like, you know, sexual practices. And I've had guys for like a couple years, and it really affects their life. So it can be pretty restorative.

This is actually pretty dope. Because have you guys heard about, I don't know if you guys have heard about those nightmare surgeries that guys have been getting to increase. They'll get implant stuff, right? And then I've seen some pictures, and it's just like, ooh. I don't know why you would put silicone in your dick, but if you, but men do it. Yeah.

Probably not a good idea. No. And we know after the breast illness syndrome, which happens to so many women after breast augmentation, putting silicone in your body is not a good idea. So I've got a lot of other stuff to get to, but let's stay on the dick for a little bit longer here. Is there anything else new or exciting about penis health?

I think the biggest thing we're understanding is just like heart health, it's about blood flow. So if you don't have enough blood flow to the penis, it's not going to work as well as you want. And then rectal dysfunction is becoming more and more common in younger people. So all these young guys are popping Viagra and Cialis, but it's like, dude, what's the root problem?

It's because you're freaking eating potato chips and not exercising. So that's really the big root of all of it, right? Potato chips, write that down. So you got to get your lifestyle optimized. And a lot of times you can fix the blood flow issue, but if you still can't, then the stem cell injections will fix and increase blood flow, and they'll actually help to break up fibrosis and plaques as well. So they can be restorative for that. What about like, how much is,

how much is something like that going to set you back doc? Cause I'm just curious. Cause that shit's probably curious. Yeah. The guy with the biggest dick on the podcast. I wouldn't say that. Nope. Okay. Well,

Congolese. Yeah. It's like 2% Congolese and it's 23 and me. So I wouldn't have guessed that. Yeah. Me neither. It's not where I want to start. It's a, it's $10,000 US.

We do it in Los Cabos, Mexico. Because we use expanded stem cells, which are cultured and grown in a lab. And then we inject them in. You've got to raise those prices. We can't have everybody walking around. Dude, you know what's even cooler? This is what every man's going to want. And maybe you'll want it.

Did you just point at me? I'm talking about the other thing guys care about the most. Which is their hair. what every man's going to want. And maybe you'll want it. Did you just point at me? I'm talking about the other thing guys care about the most, which is their hair. Keep what's funny, I mean. I have a hat on, but you know. So we can genetically reprogram stem cells, and then we can grow hair follicles. So it's called

clone hair stem cells. So basically we could take one hair follicle from the back of your scalp, and we could grow it in a lab and we can grow how many hair follicles as we want. We can grow 10,000 hair follicles and we can implant them one by one. So you can effectively cure baldness. Shit.

And you could probably at this point you could probably not get bald in the first place maybe with some other therapies, right? Well, exactly. There's so many, like, because we know inflammation, DHT, like all that stuff is why people go bald. And plus there's an element of genetics,

but you can't control, but yeah. Who's that guy who came on the podcast and like looked at me and was like, you know, baldness, which is a genetic defect. Genetic defect. But that's real. Would you be able to implant someone else's follicles into your hair?

I mean, you probably could, but then it'd look weird. Do you want to have an afro? No, I'm just thinking it'd seem like some long blonde locks. I'm good, Doug. Like from Terry Crews on Idiocracy. Still haven't seen the movie. Gotta watch it. It's a great movie.

What's a fecal implant yeah so poop pills are gonna be the next wave of restoring the immune system because it's gonna be great for your breath they're encapsulated double encapsulated so it won't affect your breath it shouldn't and but basically fecal microbial transplants were initially done through colonoscopy so they have to go through your bum basically to put in new bacteria. But the problem obviously is like, who wants to do that for every like anti-aging longevity because it's an invasive procedure. So there's a guy named Dr.

Thomas Brody. He's like the OG godfather of like gastroenterology. He's from Australia and he, he started doing FMT by capsules. He figured out a method to encapsulate them so you can circumvent the problem of doing them through colonoscopy. So he's done over 12,000 cases over the last 10 years,

but it's super inaccessible. Like if you want to get that in the US, as the US often does, they regulate it like a drug. And so you can't just go and get it. And even if you want it, even if you have inflammatory bowel disease, they won't let you, they make it very challenging. Like I've had patients who've had to take poop from their own parents and put it up their enema on their own so they could treat their IBD.

And it actually treated it. But the fact that they had to resort to that was just so like heartbreaking for me to hear. And I was like, what the heck? Like, how can you not want to help these people? So then that's why I looked into like, how can we help these people? Because so many people with gut issues, plus the gut is the root of like immune dysfunction, which is the root of so many chronic diseases like chronic inflammation. So the FMT, the fecal microbial transplant, basically helps to repopulate the gut bacteria, which plays such a big role in aging and chronic disease because of the metabolites they produce. There's a study that just came out this week showing that the metabolites that those gut bacteria produce can even be responsible for like liver cancer.

So they made a new treatment where they're targeting specifically the microbes using like microRNA to prevent those metabolites so you can treat liver cancer. It has been done in mice. But the point is a lot of disease comes back to the gut. Yeah. So some people can get like treatment for irritable bowel and things like that through this. Exactly. You just pills for four to six months. It's like super duper probiotics because probably probiotics a lot, like some of them work, some of them don't. And a lot of them don't actually stay. Like if you do studies, like a lot of those bacteria don't actually end up staying in the gut

afterwards. So it's like, what did you actually achieve? You took them for a bit. Maybe they stayed there transitory or like just for a temporary amount of time. So whereas with the FMT, they're actually going to do what like have a long-term benefit. So I think every,

I think it's going to be a huge, like it's going to help a lot of people. And like, I mean, I'm first on the list for that.

So I want it for myself. And just because it's like, I, I've had IBS issues and I feel like a lot of people have it because of the food supply, the food, the supply chain.

Right. And like all the processed foods we eat and stuff like that and growing up, we get exposed to so many toxins and pesticides and everything like that. So I think it's going to it just, it's just providing accessibility for people who want to get FMT through our manufacturing process.

And is it your own fecal matter that's used for this? No, we get a super donor. So, super donor? A lot, literally. Did you ever see that South Park episode No, we get a super donor. A super donor? Like someone just shit a lot? Literally. There's just one godfather. Did you ever see that South Park episode with Tom Brady's poop?

I haven't. What? Oh, you got to YouTube that. You're going to have to YouTube that. So Tom Brady's poop is apparently the best poop in the world, according to South Park. It's a hilarious episode. But the principle is actually pretty accurate, which is that if you want to take someone else's poop into your body, you want the healthiest poop. And Tom Brady's is probably pretty healthy.

But we find donors. We have our own selection process for finding donors. But we only use one donor who has like the best poop, essentially. What are you looking for? I know. There's criteria for that. Combing through it. Like, nah, too much corn in here.

Yeah, literally. No, but I have a human microbiome. She's a PhD in this, and her job is literally to, she has a proprietary method on how she selects the donors. Because she looks at the ratios of the different bacterias, she looks at the health of the person, and she has a method to make sure that whatever FMT product we're using is going to be the best for as many people as possible.

And this is just generation one. Over time, we're going to make FMT products we're using is going to be the best for as many people as possible. And this is just generation one. You can, over time, we're going to make FMT products for different conditions. Because we know, like, for example, even Parkinson's disease, there's a paper that came out showing that it was linked to a gut bacteria issue. So again, like, there's so many chronic neurodegenerative conditions, too, that are coming back to the gut. I got to have you meet my friend, Joel Green. You guys would have a lot to discuss.

He's been talking about, like about gut health type stuff forever. So I think you guys would have a lot of cool information to share back and forth. Yeah. My thing is always about therapeutics because I'm like, how do I help people? So that's why I'm doing all these different manufacturing with the FMT, but also the cell and gene therapy too. Because, I mean, there's peptides like BPC that can help with gut inflammation and stuff like that. But when you combine it with stem cells for inflammation in the gut and then FMT, then you're really getting, like, amazing results. Because you're treating all the different mechanisms that cause the issue in the first place. Yeah, let's dive into the stem cells a little bit more.

I think over the last several years, there's been – it seems to be real hit or miss. You know, people are like, no, it doesn't work. Then some people are like, we have to go to a different country. You know, what are some of the differences in our stem cells from what you're seeing? Are they working well for people more and more because there's like new technology or what's kind of going on with stem cells? Yeah.

I mean, there's a lot of charlatans in the space, right? They're like, stem cells will fix you everything. You just put them, you can put them here, you can do this and this, you can cure Alzheimer's, you can do for spinal cord injury. So there's a lot. That is the way they kind of say it sometimes. Like, it will fix everything.

Exactly. You just put it in your elbow. Just put it everywhere. Yeah. And you'll be good. You'll be a brand new person. And that's where, even for me, I had a hard time getting into it

because I thought it was so snake oil salesman-like, you know what I mean? And there's a lot of predatory marketing where they're just using celebrity endorsements. And then it's like, what's the real science behind it? So obviously before I got into it, I started diving into the science. And I was lucky because I worked in the Middle East and then I worked in Japan and Europe. So I got different perspectives on like, how are they actually doing stem cells? And what I learned is it's really about the manufacturing process. So it's like, how do you grow the stem cells? So just like, I always kind of equate it to like electric vehicle

batteries. If you remember like electric vehicle batteries in 2010, if you bought a Tesla, it was a pretty bad car. Like it wasn't great and it didn't go very far and the battery technology wasn't very good. But over time it got better and better. So similarly, stem cell manufacturing has got better and better over the last couple of years. So now we're at a point where we can grow them in a way which allows them to survive better and it also allows them to do their function better. And so this is called, there's gene-edited stem cells

where you actually edit them to do specific targeted things and help protect them from the immune system. And then you can also do something called biomaterials, which are actually, you use 3D bioprinting or hydrogels, which are like little scaffolds that basically form around the stem cells and basically protect them from your body's own immune system. Because the biggest problem with like IV umbilical cord stem cells and all these things, they don't stay in your body very long. So a lot of people think that's what most people do. That's what most people do. And the problem is they're basically they're thinking they're going to regrow all these new tissue and stuff like that, but really they're just signaling molecules. So because they're just,

the stem cells send signals that help to repair and regenerate tissue, but they're not really engrafting. So it's called paracrine signaling where they're sending signals, but not engrafting into new tissue. So the hot area of research is like, hey, how do we make them actually engraft and grow new tissue? And that's where biomaterials come in and gene editing technology comes in because we can actually get them to work better and stay in longer. So, for example, I think the coolest technology I learned about was in Japan. There's a guy named Professor Yamanaka. He got the Nobel Prize about like eight years ago for basically figuring out how to take any cell in your body and reprogramming it into a naked stem cell,

like an embryonic stem cell, which is pretty crazy if you think about it. It's like your body has this memory to essentially- It swipes it clean, kind of. Literally, yeah. But the fact that your body can even do that with genetic reprogramming is pretty impressive. That means your body has this innate desire

or ability to heal. That's what it tells me. And so we're just trying to demystify it. But basically what that does is it makes it into an embryonic stem cell. But the problem with embryonic stem cells is that they're too strong. They can grow into tumors. So they're called induced pluripotent stem cells or IPSC. But the problem with IPSC, no one can figure out,

how do we make this work clinically without causing tumors? Until there's a group in actually from Canada that figured out how to do a gene edited IPSC. So it prevents uncontrolled proliferation. So they have clinical grade ones. So that's the technology that we're using now. And that's like the next generation technology. I call it second generation stem cells because they're gene edited and they're targeted for specific conditions. So there's like specific ones for osteoarthritis. There's specific ones for like diabetes, like islet cells that you can inject into the pancreas. There's neuro progenitor cells that you can use for neuro degenerative conditions.

So it's getting more and more precise, right? It's precision medicine instead of just being like umbilical cord stem cells for everyone. Yeah. Let me ask you this real quick about stem cells, because one thing you do see is like you've, I've seen posts from high level grapplers going. I'm not going to name specific companies, but they're going to get stem cells done. Right. You see it from a lot of people who get injuries. If somebody is like, I want stem cells now, I'm going to go to this company.

What are the questions that they should ask so they know maybe what red flags to pay attention to? Because I think you've mentioned there's no other company that's kind of doing what you guys are currently doing. Yeah. No, there isn't. And the problem is the doctors who are promoting it aren't typically scientists. And the people who start these companies are typically businessmen. So like BioAccelerator is a perfect example. It started by a businessman. So what's the businessman going to try to do?

He's going to try to promote stem cells as much as possible. They don't really necessarily care about the quality and the science because the science is evolving so fast. And so the questions I would ask is, what testing are you doing, first of all, on the stem cells in terms of like quality control? Like, are they doing something called flow cytometry, which is to test and make sure that the stem cell markers are actually reflective of what the cells should be? So flow cytometry is basically just like a, it's like a special assay that they do to see if the cells actually have the markers.

There's something called cell markers and the stem cells express these certain cell markers. And so the flow cytometry can just tell you that. So that's one way. And then the other way is like, what's the actual manufacturing process? This is detailed questions, but I would, the simplest thing you can ask is how many passages the stem cells go through.

So this is when you transfer it from one flask to another. So why is that important? Because if you transfer too many flasks, like when you're growing them, then the cells can become senescent and they don't survive. And then they actually cause more inflammation and can actually make it worse. So you got to be careful where you go for stem cells. They're not always harmless, right? And that's why we are a manufacturer. I work with them closely on the culture medium, the expansion process, how we're doing it.

So we make sure that we're not doing more than like four to six passages. But I know for a fact, a lot of the companies in South America are doing like 10 passages. And so you're going to have higher risk of senescence. And then you're going to have a higher risk of having other problems with that. And of course, it works for a lot of people, but there are a lot of people it doesn't work for. Ed Cohn is a perfect example because he's talked about it openly with me and he's promoted it with me.

He went to Panama and it didn't work for him. He still had shoulder issues. Because of that. Because of that. It wasn't good quality and it wasn't done the right way. The injection wasn't in the right spot. So we're really good with image-guided techniques. Our claim to fame, so to speak, was our ultrasound.

We're able to find small tears. We're able to find things that even MRIs miss. And then we can do the direct injections right into there. Because the stem cells do have a bit of a homing mechanism, but they're not going to magically just go everywhere and repair your tissue. You have to get it into the right spot. There is a systemic effect if homing mechanism, but they're not going to magically just go everywhere and repair your tissue. You have to get it into the right spot. There is a systemic effect if you do IV, but for specific medical conditions

like a rotator cuff tear or osteoarthritis, you really need to go into the area to get the best result. And so the biggest problem I see is the interventional aspect, and then obviously the quality. So I think if you're going to go to someone, you should figure out what's their interventional skill set. Are they actually experienced physicians doing interventional pain and spine

and all these different procedures? A lot of them aren't, and they're just kind of getting into the stem cell world because it's a hot topic, but they don't actually know what they're doing. What's something that kind of changed your mind about it? Like when you saw maybe it being utilized in the company that you're with or you started utilizing it more in practice what was something where you were like like this this not only works but it works way better than i ever really thought yeah it was when i was in dubai so i worked in dubai for four months this

year and uh it really changed my whole perspective because they've been doing it for nine years and over there just no restrictions in terms of application of expanded stem cells. And all the people I was treating were getting better. And I treated like the royal families and like, you don't screw up with those guys. Cause if they, if you, if you don't make them better or if they get infection or something goes bad, like you're dead,

you're literally dead. There's no, there's no recourse there. Right. So you have actually a picture on your Instagram with, um, a little bit on the line. Yeah.

Alibar. He's the richest man in the Middle East. He's from Jordan? Oh, yeah, that's it. Where's he from? Yeah, yeah. No, he's from Dubai. So he owns that.

This guy is hilarious. So he owns the six tallest buildings in the world, including the Burj Khalifa, which is behind us. So he wanted to take a picture and, but he wanted good lighting. So he's like, so he literally made a call. I'm not taking that picture, you know, like, Hey, hold my phone. So he literally made a call and then they do the light show for him. And on that building behind him, it's the world's biggest screen.

And it costs, guess how much it costs. If you want, if you're not the owner of it, if you want to display something on there, $20 million, $50, 000 per minute oh wow whoa that's that's that's a lot i can't math what that would be an hour it cost him shit man owns the building that's amazing that was kind of my i guess claim to fame because when i treated him he posted about, which was really nice of him. And everyone in the Middle East knows who he is, including all the royals. Because he was the guy who built Dubai. Dubai is the reason it is because Mohamed Al-Abar had the vision of saying, I want to make Dubai the tourist hub in the world.

So he had the vision of the mall. He owns the mall, the Dubai Mall, the Burj Khalifa, all the big attractions. He owns them all. And it was his vision. And he had a shoulder. It was his vision. He had a shoulder issue for 20 years. Basically, the doctors there are just like, let's do cortisone.

It didn't work. MRI was normal. They're just like, okay, I guess there's nothing. Just do physio. He's just literally been doing physio for 20 years, once a week. We come in there. We use our ultrasound.

We find two small tears, and we fix it with just PRP. It was an easy fix, but just a PRP injection. Yeah. And cause for a lot of like tendon tears and stuff like that, PRP works great. And then his wife had a similar issue. She couldn't sleep at night for like six months. And I,

I, we found some small tears in her knees that were missed on MRI, fix it up. And now she can sleep and he was so happy. He was more happy about his wife being able to sleep than his own issue. But it was just like, the point is like, you know, it's like, why are these people seeking this out?

Right? Wow. Yeah. The light show is pretty amazing. And he's just like, you know, it's just, I found it so hilarious that he could just make a phone call. Light my building up, Doug. Okay. Yeah.

But also, light my building because I need to take a selfie. Take a selfie! That's so dumb. But sir, it's $50,000 a selfie. I need to take a selfie! That's so dumb! But sir, it's $50,000 a minute. Bah! Oh my gosh, dude, it's amazing. So what makes kind of Dubai different? And you were talking about Japan too.

Yeah. From the United States, because like all this stuff seems amazing, but it just seems like it's so hard here. It's literally illegal here. Like FDA can, I mean, there are a lot of stem cell clinics, but FDA still says stem cells in the U S are illegal.

And, but there's a lot of, there's just so many clinics offer them. But the problem is because it's illegal, it becomes almost like a black market where it's like, where are these people sourcing their stem cells from? And is there a good quality control? There's usually not.

And so it's almost, it's, and that's why I don't understand why the FDA doesn doesn't just create a regulatory framework like japan and dubai have where it's like hey we're going to regulate this you can do this but this is the standard that we have and this is the protocols that you have to follow that's that's pretty simple to do because other countries have already done it why fda is the way they are is because i mean i know they're like an overprotective mother. They have, in terms of certain foods and stuff,

obviously you don't, well, what can I say? They haven't done a very good job. I think they have good intentions, but the problem is there's lobbyists, there's a lot of people involved in the pharmaceutical world that play a role in their decision making. 70% of the money, the donors that they get, is actually from

pharmaceutical companies. They're obviously going to have an interest in wanting to promote that stuff more than stuff that's going to take away from that business. I think that's just the reality of it. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's just facts. Then if you ask yourself, if this treatment is approved in the

Middle East and Japan, which are developed countries, they're not like Colombia. And like, no offense, those are developing. They're not great places to live. But like Japan's a flourishing economy, right? They're a really strong economy. They have strong science technology. Why is a country like that approved this for over nine years and it's not approved here? That makes you question things.

And when I worked in Japan, and that's kind of what opened my eyes too. I was like, wait a minute, this can't just be because it's like, it doesn't work. There's something more to this. And so I started digging and then you just go down that rabbit hole and you realize there's just people out there who are actually lobbying against stem cell approvals. And those people have ties to pharmaceutical companies. So you're working out, you're working on nutrition, you're working on your feet, you're working on your sleep, and all these things are having benefit. But what's going on underneath the hood? What's going on with your hormones? That question is answered by working with Merrick Health. It's owned by DARE for more plates, more dates. And getting your blood work done by Merrick Health will help you understand what's going on under

the hood. They have different panels that you can do once every six months or every single month. So you can understand how your sleep, all these different protocols that you're adding into your routine are affecting your hormones. It's important to understand. And it's also important to know if what you're doing is actually working. Andrew, how can they get their hands on it? Yes, that's over at MerrickHealth.com slash PowerProject. And at checkout, enter promo code PowerProject to save 10% off 10 off the power project panel the checkup panel or any individual lab that you select again that's at merrickhealth.com slash power project promo code power project at checkout links in the description as well as the podcast show notes what can people expect uh getting stem cells like what have you

seen it uh heal and fix and yeah it's i, if you're getting good quality stem cells with the right dosing and the right protocols, they almost always work. I never like to say anything's 100%, but it's just like 90% to 95%. It's a pretty high success rate. But the protocols are important. We use peptides. We do other things with hyperbaric oxygen to make sure they survive and they do what they need to. So I think the pre-procedure care and the post-procedure care are very important. But the actual procedure,

the most common thing we treat are definitely chronic pain. Because opioids, you've talked about that a lot, but people have gone down those rabbit holes where they get addicted. And a lot of times those meds don't even work or they stop working. And then people are left with no options. And so for chronic pain,

a lot of times we'll do intravenous stem cells for the whole body because people who especially have fibromyalgia or have pain everywhere, it'll help to reduce the systemic inflammation. And then we'll do guided injections wherever they have structural damage. So like degenerative disc disease,

like osteoarthritis, like rotator cuff tears, tears wherever, we'll find it with ultrasound or x-ray and we'll guide the needles directly into there. And those can heal, like people have arthritis in their wrists or certain things or like injuries in their back.

Those can help heal those areas? Yeah, they're not just anti-inflammatory, they're regenerative as well. So they reduce inflammation, but they also have regenerative components, especially the next generation of stem cells. The umbilical cord, I would say, are more anti-inflammatory, but the second gen with the hydrogels and the gene-edited stuff are true regenerative component, especially the next generation of stem cells. The umbilical cord, I would say, are more anti-inflammatory,

but the second gen with the hydrogels and the gene edited stuff are true regenerative, meaning they'll actually repair and regrow new tissue. And that's the dream, right? It's like, can we take the body back to a previous state? That's basically what regenerative medicine is. At a very high level, it's just like, can we restore the body back to the way it was instead of cutting shit out or just putting you on drugs? And now we're getting there. It's getting better and better every year.

And so that's going to disrupt the whole mainstream medical model because it's based off this model of, you know, reactive care and of not treating the root cause of just treating the symptoms. So, and I think my, you know, my dream with all this stuff is like one day you'll be able to go to your, you know, family doctor or whatever and get like IV stem cells and like the fall statin gene therapy which we'll talk about like anti-aging stuff and then imagine how much chronic disease you could prevent but then that's bad for business right because the hospitals are busy the hospitals aren't busy because people are you know there are acute traumas and stuff like that obviously that's part of it but hospitals are busy because there's

so much chronic disease exasperation people People have heart disease, heart failure, like COPD, like diabetes, all this stuff. And then they get flare-ups, and then they have to end up in hospitals. And that's the majority of burden of disease on society. Yeah, if people are feeling good and they feel energized and they still feel young, their joints feel good, hopefully they'll want to move around more. They'll be encouraged to move around more. Yeah, and if you slow down aging, you slow down chronic disease because aging has 10 hallmarks of what we call fundamental principles of dysfunction. Similar to in physics, you have what are called first principles.

In biology now, we understand we have fundamental principles that govern the cellular dysfunction process. So you may have heard of some of them, like mitochondrial dysfunction, that govern the cellular dysfunction process. So you may have heard of some of them, like mitochondrial dysfunction, chronic inflammation, or what's called chronic inflammation basically in the body, dysregulated nutrient sensing.

There's all these different things. There's 10 of them. But the point is they underlie almost every chronic disease process. So when you look at even heart disease, what's the root of it? It's actually chronic inflammation. It's mitochondrial dysfunction. It's the loss of it? It's actually chronic inflammation, it's mitochondrial dysfunction, it's the same loss of proteostasis, which is like a protein turnover. It's the same foundation.

So it's like, if we can slow down aging, and that's why a lot of people are like, oh, this aging stuff is just for rich people. It's like, maybe it is right now, but just like plasma TVs used to be $100,000 back in the day, this stuff is going to become cheaper and cheaper. There's going to be early adopters, but over time it's going to become more accessible

and it's going to democratize health for everyone because this stuff can actually keep you healthy. And like Mark said, if you can keep people healthy, energetic, not depressed, all this other stuff, they're going to want to move, they're going to want to exercise, and that's how you keep society healthy. And I think it's really like a disservice to public health what they do with this stuff because

with like, I don't want to go, I mean COVID's whatever but like with that stuff they were so gung ho about promoting that stuff but then it's like why don't you ever promote like lifestyle? And like I just never understand or create a society where it makes it easy for people to live a good lifestyle. Because it comes down to the environment, right? Environment

to a certain extent does dictate behavior. Humans, for the most part humans, you know, that's just a lot of humans. Massively, it massively dictates your behavior. I mean, just think about if you live somewhere where it's really, really cold, it's just that much harder to get yourself outside for a walk or something like that. And in Canada, we have some of the highest autoimmune rates in the world, like multiple sclerosis and other conditions. Why is that? I think it's obviously vitamin D is part of it, but it's also because people don't exercise or are not willing to exercise for half the year. It's really tough for them. So I think setting an environment where cheap food is accessible, processed food, where people

rather take their cars and walk, there's just so many ways that the public, the government could create an infrastructure that would allow people to live healthier lives. But they don't want to invest in that, right? And that was my thing during ****. I was just kind of like, yeah, I mean, I'm not necessarily anti-****. I think it was over-prescribed a little bit. But the point is, they never really talked about

the other stuff that you can do to make your body protected from it, including peptides. In Russia, Russia is Russia, but they protected from it, including like peptides. Like there's in Russia, Russia is Russia, but they did a lot of studies on peptides. And that's where peptides actually pioneered from. And so they were doing peptides with like something called thymolin, which can actually help to treat **** and it can help reduce

recurrence of it. It can reduce hospital stays. And it's harmless. But here, like no one was talking about it. And then same thing with IV stem cells and IV exosomes. They can treat ****. There's over like 40 randomized control trials on that. Yet there was not one headline about stem cells treating ****.

So it's just, to me, it's just like, what are they doing, right? It just, it makes you question things. Can you fix Aaron Rodgers' torn Achilles tendon? I'm a Jets fan. Can you help him out? I got many messages about him, including one of his coaches. But yeah, no, he ended up doing surgery, and I think he just did PRP. I think he was just staying on the conservative side.

But yeah, I have fixed Achilles tears using stem cells, including ruptures, without surgery. And we have protocols to get them back faster. So instead of taking like nine months to a year, we could get them back in like six months or so. So I think, you know, if he came to me right away, I think I could have gotten back faster, but his loss. That's wild that it can repair something that's torn. And then have you seen some people be able to move

with better range of motion? Because I'm imagining like if an area was shut off for a long time that maybe you couldn't, maybe your range of motion would still be, because it's not just the pain. It's sometimes you end up with dysfunction throughout the whole body. Have you seen people really improve their ability to move on top of getting them out? Yeah. And I'm always, it's, I'm always about like combining different modalities. So I won't tell people,

and this is a problem with a lot of those stem cell clinics too, they'll just do their injection and they'll be like, peace, good luck, hope it works. But for me, I like having a post-procedure protocol and making sure they're doing the right rehab for biomechanics, because why did the dysfunction happen in the first place? It's biomechanics.

And that's the problem with a lot of doctors, I think still, they look at just structural problems, but there's biomechanics. And that's the problem with a lot of doctors, I think, still. They look at just structural problems, but there's biomechanical problems and also inflammatory problems that can lead to chronic pain. So I like to treat all of it. And the way you do that is after the tear is fixed, you get them to look at their scapula. If it's a shoulder tear, you look at your scapula,

look at your neck, look at all the movement mechanics of how their scapula is moving and their shoulder, and restore that. And I find if, as long as you fix the structural problems, every people do get back their range of motion. Like, obviously if you have like bone on bone advanced osteoarthritis, you may not get back full range of motion, but even then everyone's range of motion does improve. Um, meaning like you, you know, you have someone who's hip, they can barely move because they have so much arthritis. And then after the treatments, they can move it like usually 20, 30 degrees more,

which is still a pretty significant difference. There's so many things to talk about as far as stem cells here are concerned. But with what you just mentioned right there, the low hanging fruit as far as lifestyle, right? Like we lift muscle mass, I believe is important for longevity. But what are the things that you think that people should be doing already? Because people are going to want to get on this either way. But what do you do outside of this to extend your life to? I think you mentioned to us, people should be able to live to 150. Yeah. No, I think the generation, I mean, it's really the first generation where people are

exercising and taking care of their bodies, right? Like in people in their 50s and 60s, they've been doing it since they were in their 20s or 30s. So I think that alone, if you think that, I think that alone will add let's say the oldest person was 120 but that oldest 120 was like with what really? they were just living in a normal life they weren't doing exercise, they weren't optimizing their lifestyle

so I think at a minimum you can add at least let's say 20% because of lifestyle optimization and then you have everything else with the intravenous stem cells and anti-aging stuff with the gene therapy. So let's talk about that gene therapy because it's pretty exciting stuff. And so we have the world's first reversible plasmid gene therapy.

What that means is instead of using a viral vector, we're using a bacterial vector. However, it's just a plasmid, which is just a strand of DNA that exchanges information. So there's no live bacteria in there. So that's the cool thing. It's just a circular strand of DNA. And hence the name of the company that we have is called Mini Circle because it's just a mini circle. But traditionally, people to do gene therapies had to use viral vectors. And to manufacture viruses are expensive, number one. And number two, there's always risk with viruses.

There's always a risk that they can translocate, and then once you do it, they're not reversible, and then they also can't be repeated. So eventually they'll wear off after 10 years, whereas this one can be repeated. So there's a lot of benefits to the plasma gene therapy over viral vectors. So I think once you understand that,

then you kind of understand, oh wow, this is going to be a really cool technology. So it's a platform for any protein or peptide in your body that we can target. So the first one we did was called follow statin. Why did we do follow statin? Because I'm of the belief that muscle is the most important organ in the body. And it is the organ of longevity, as Gabrielle Lyon has said. And I agree with her 100%.

And basically, if we can preserve muscle mass, we can slow down aging probably the most. But then there's also so many other benefits of the phallostatin. It also, not only does it inhibit myostatin, so it increases lean body mass, it's super anti-catabolic. So we did, in our phase one trial, we did DEXA scans on everyone, and we had

patients, some patients who lost like 15-20% body fat and no muscle. So that's the beauty of it. Like unlike Ozempic or like, you know, even Trizeptide or like other pharmaceuticals, people lose muscle and fat. And so this is super anti-catabolic, meaning you're not going to lose any muscle while you're, even if you're dieting, even if you're not eating enough protein or doing enough resistance training, which is really cool about it. Quick question. I think for body fat, I think you said a percentage, but you probably meant pounds.

You said 10 to 10 to 15. Oh, I meant a total body weight. Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking like, that's like a crazy amount for someone to cut, like for someone who's 20%. I was like, Whoa. No, no.

Yeah. Body weight. Sign me up. And on that too, actually, were there any other interventions that were going on with these individuals that were using that? We wanted to really isolate the effect of the fall of statin. So we tried to control for that as much as possible. There were some people exercising, some people not,

which was interesting to see too, because even the people who weren't exercising, some of them increased their lean body mass. So how crazy is that? With the fall of statin, some people put on like, there was one guy who put on like five pounds of lean body mass. So how crazy is that? With the false data and some people put on like, there was one guy who put on like five pounds of lean body mass and he literally wasn't exercising. Like that's wild.

And he lost like six pounds of body fat. So that to me, it's like body recomposition, right? Body recomposition is so hard, as you guys know, to lose fat and to gain muscle. It's not easy. And so anything we can do to make that easier is going to have a huge impact on society. And so there's the muscular benefits, but then there's the anti-aging benefits, which are just wild in some people.

So on average, like the intrinsic biological age reduction for people over 60 was about 11 years. But for people in their 40s, 50s was still like six, seven years, which is pretty significant. But then there's some people who are super responders that were trying to figure out why we're probably gonna do some genetic testing on them. But there was, there was one, one girl, she's only 28. Her biological age was 28. And then after the false dad in six months, it went down to 12. Yo, yo, whoever's married to that girl, divorce immediately. She's 12 now, dog. Oh, what are you talking about?

We made her, we made her into a child. But that was insane. We're like, what? This is crazy. And then there was people who, like, one guy was 66, and we made his biological age go down by, like, 36 years. So he's, like, in his young 30s now. It's, like, wild stuff. It's an intrinsic biological age.

If anyone who knows anything about aging, intrinsic biological age is very hard to alter. It's because it's at a cellular level. We're talking about the hallmarks of aging. You're actually making the cells healthier, which is cellular function, cellular efficiency, how your body does everything, right? Because everything comes back to cellular dysfunction, metabolics, everything is about the cell

and how it functions. So if we're making your cells healthier at an intrinsic level, it's pretty wild if you think about it. And so I think the application of this is going to be massive, not just phallostatin, but we have a whole pipeline of products

because we can do different targets, right? But this is just our first one. And so our phase two trial we're planning to do in Japan. The reason is because Japan has the oldest aging population in the world and sarcopenia and osteopenia are huge problems there.

And the phallostatin increases bone density as well. How? Well, how? I think through GDF-11, there's a growth factor, and it stimulates increased bone density. And so it's really cool. And it has no side effects. Right now for bone density, if you're a woman and you have low bone density, you have to take something called bisphosphonates and those drugs are harsh and they can have like, they can cause necrosis of your jaw and they barely work based off the studies too.

Again, like pharmaceutical companies do a lot of statistical fuckery basically. And they just, and they tend to do that with a lot of drugs for chronic disease. And so this has no side effects, has a lot of potential for benefit. It's perfectly safe. And so I'm, you know, I think it's really going to change a lot of people's lives and our goal is to eventually have people cover it but that's going to take time Japan, our vision for that is if we could do a phase 2 trial they're showing it does sarcopenia and osteopenia

we'd want the government to eventually say hey, let's get this to all our people because why wouldn't you want it for all your people it's one of those things that we want millions or tens of millions of people to do let's get this to all our people because why wouldn't you want it for all your people? It's one of those things that we want millions, like tens of millions of people to do. And how big was your test group? Like how many people were involved?

That trial was about 50 people, but we've done it for over, now it's probably like around 200 people. Got Sebum on it too, I saw it, right? Yeah, Sebum just did it last week. Yeah, I did it for him. It's not fair. It's gonna it's not fair it's not definitely not fair

he's best dude obviously but that's the thing whoever so whoever you know whoever gets to be that's why I'm kind of

like an exclusive doctor now it's really hard to get into me but it's but you basically get unfair advantage if I'm your doctor because we also did

IV stem cells for him and he says he feels the best he's ever felt for his prep because he doesn't feel tired and he doesn't feel his joints don't hurt yeah it's amazing so it's like it's obviously you know um i mean for pro athletes like i've done it for nfl guys too and nhl guys and um wada can't test for it i mean there's no way to test for it it's it's one of those things that isn't detectable. Personally, I don't think even if it is performance enhancing, to me it's not about that. It's about protecting people's bodies.

It's not allowing them to recover faster, reduce inflammation. Why would water be against... Another thing is question it. Why is water against people using BPC? BPC-157 is a peptide that helps... It's like the Wolverine peptide. It's the one that helps with regeneration, healing. Why would you not want your athletes tovarine peptide, right? It's the one that helps with regeneration, healing.

Why would you not want your athletes to use that if they get injured? It's just kind of weird, right? Instead, what they do, and I've had NFL guys happen to this, is they get a cortisone injection every week during the 16 weeks, and then they destroy their joints. Because their doctor doesn't tell them that the cortisone eats away at cartilage. It's chondrotoxic. So out of the roughly 200 people that you've tested it on, has there been any non-responders? Because you mentioned

super responders, but has anybody just like not really gotten any benefit? Not yet. So I'm hoping that it will stay that way. It's consistently everyone, I would say the least clinical benefits and at the very least are people who don't, maybe they don't get many strength gains but they get energy boost still every single person gets like it feels better in the morning when they wake up have more energy able to bounce back faster that type of stuff um so that's 100 consistent in every single person and there's been no adverse effects that's the beauty of it um and everyone once it wears off they want it done again and that's what i was going to ask next how long does one treatment? Yeah, one and a half to two years. And then once it wears off, everyone's like,

please, I need it now. Because you feel so great on it. And the cool part is it has a kill switch. So basically you can take a tetracycline antibiotic and it'll kill the plasmid vector. So it's reversible. And that's why it's called reversible. It's the only reversible gene therapy in the world.

So it's really cool technology. And I don't know why you would want to have your body, but let's just say for whatever reason you're like, I don't want to be strong and energetic. Just take it at tetracycline. I'm too strong. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's some interesting stuff.

How did you get into this stuff? Like how did you, you know, like you were practicing medicine, you wanted to be a doctor, but like how did you end up falling into a get into this stuff like how did you you know like you were practicing medicine you wanted to be a doctor but like how did you end up falling into a lot of this stuff yeah it's a it's an interesting journey because like in medical school i was kind of like the oddball because i was like watching your youtube videos and like watching ed cone and watching like uh you know like i was a huge fan of eric alms and like omar i used to watch those guys all the time in med school and like i was just super i was just Adams and like Omar. I used to watch those guys all the time in med school. And like, I was just super, I was just a bro.

I'm like a gym bro at heart. That's just who I am. And then, so for me, it was kind of weird. I was like, why are they teaching me all this stuff, but they're not teaching me how to treat the root cause. And so that was always the question I asked from day one. And then everyone in my med school class was just kind of like, who cares? Like they're just, because most doctors are interested in like surgery or like,

you know, the one, and then the ones who are interested in like preventative care, they're just like, you know, buy the book pharmaceutical stuff, right? And so for me, it was always like, no, there has to be more. And so that's how I got into functional medicine, integrative medicine,

read a bunch of books on that. And then eventually I got exposed to regenerative medicine. Dr. Anthony Gallia, he was my mentor in that. And he was like, he was the first one in the world to do PRP, actually. He started the whole PRP, which is old tech now, but back then, 20 years ago, it was new tech. The cool thing, real quick, is I got PRP in my knee when I was

16 because of Oshkosh Slaughter. It made a big difference back then. It's wild. Tony was the guy who did it for Mike Tyson, Tiger Woods, he did it for Madonna. He did it for every big celebrity. He was my mentor in regenerative medicine. And then I was kind of just like,

you know, because I went through a similar thing with like, you know, your family did. I lost my sister like seven, eight years ago now. And that, when you have that type of tragedy in your family too, you're kind of like, how do I use this pain to help or make a difference? And that was the way I found meaning in it. It was like, I want to help as many people as possible.

And doing it through pharmaceuticals and surgery, I knew was not the way. Because I just felt like there's, we can go to, if we go back to first principles or fundamental principles and the root cause of disease and function, and now we can understand that better than ever, we can help a lot of people and change a lot of lives.

So that was always my motivation. And it was just like about scaling everything. And I kind of got lucky because I invested in Tesla in 2016 to 2020. And because during that, and yeah, and so I be, I basically became financially independent at 32.

So I didn't, so good for you. So, but, but it's good because when you don't have to work for money, it gives you creativity. It gives you space to think and be like, okay,

what do I actually want to do with my life? Like, how do I want to make a difference? Cause money, I've treated the richest family in the world. They're worth 3.2 trillion in the Middle East. And like money doesn't buy you happiness. Like it just gives you something to,

gives you options and maybe gives you freedom. But it doesn't make you happy necessarily and give you fulfillment. And so that's where I was kind of like, again, back, come back to the thing. To me, I get fulfillment from helping people and making a difference. But then just being a regular doctor

and treating people is great, but I can only help so many people with my own hands. And so I was like, how do I scale this? So that's where the technology stuff came in. And then this just fell into my lap, basically. It was like perfect timing, because the two scientists who invented it approached me and they liked what I was doing and my philosophies,

and so we aligned very well. So then I joined their company. I think we're going to be able to create so many amazing technologies together. This is just the first one. We're going to Mexico in a few weeks and we're creating gene-edited cells for cancer. They're called CAR-NK cells and CAR-T cells and dendritic cells. They're basically different cell lines to help your body to fight cancer. And they've been shown to be effective not only in Japan, but even in the US, CAR T is

approved, but it's super expensive and inaccessible. So we want to make it more accessible to more people because cancer has not really innovated in many years. If you look at the data, people are maybe living four weeks longer over the last decade in terms of how much longer people are actually living with the current treatment. So it's not that significant. So I feel like there's so many chronic diseases out there where people are still suffering and lives are being lost. And, you know, if I can make a huge difference on that, hopefully that's what I want to do. Is some of this gene therapy, is it doing anything specific to hormones or is it just in like for lack of a better term is it just

uh maybe like amplifying the entire body so it can be optimal it's not necessarily like raising testosterone or growth hormone exactly exactly because when you age like maybe optimizing the whole because the phallostatin levels decrease as you age and that on our next product is something called copper peptide a copper peptide is really good for your skin, but it's also a bioregulator, which means it has different effects at methylation level. And so it has all these cool benefits of anti-aging. But as you get older, your copper levels fall pretty precipitously. And so basically the gene therapy will just optimize them. And then that's the same thing with testosterone, same thing with so many different gene therapies that we're working on.

So basically, this is what I imagine. You come into our clinic called Eterna. You come into our Eterna clinic and you basically reprogram your whole body. You could do a bunch of injections and you're genetically modified and you're going to be optimized and good to go. Can you pass

down those genetically modified genes? No, no. That's the cool thing about the plasmid. It's not actually translocating into your nucleus. It's just sending a signal to your body to help increase production of whatever peptide we're targeting. Power Project family, if you're trying to increase your muscle mass, if you're trying to lose body fat, if you're trying to stick to a nutrition plan, if you're trying to get fit, pretty much if there's anything you're trying to do for your health, we know that sleep is the biggest determining factor to help you get from point A to point B. That's why we've been sleeping on eight sleep mattresses for probably more than two years now.

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You have a child, right? Yeah. Does your wife like worry that you're chasing your kid around? Get out of here. Put something in their snacks. It's like he's six feet tall. He's only one and a half years old. What's going on here?

Oh, yeah. My kids are going to get access to all the best stuff. Yeah, no, it's like it is wild if you think about it because if you can create gene-edited embryos, you can select for whatever traits you want to enhance or obviously in disease cases, delete because there are genetic conditions out there that obviously you don you want to enhance or obviously in disease cases delete because there are genetic conditions out there that you want to

obviously you don't want to pass down like Huntington's disease imagine you have two parents that have Huntington's and then you could gene edit the embryo to take out that gene that's actually a real possibility now there's just a lot of ethical issues on how do we regulate it because once you start gene editing it's like edit out the Huntington's

and then insert something superpower. Exactly, yeah. Insert penis enlargement. You could theoretically insert certain things that you do want. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You could choose theoretically you could do eye color, hair type, height, you could

put on the other. So there's so many things you could do but then it just opens up Pandora's box, right? And then that's where elitism could come in too, right? Because that would be a very expensive technology. And then imagine you have society where only the rich people can afford that. And then you go down that hole, right? And that may, I hope that doesn't happen.

Yeah, but even the gene therapy stuff, our vision with it, even though it's expensive right now, our vision with it is to eventually have it accessible and affordable to everyone. So everyone can get one injection every two years, and it can really change the natural course of disease and aging. And you talked about in the gym a bit, you mentioned falostatin, but you also mentioned, I don't know if you just mentioned one for testosterone, but there's a lot of guys who use TRT and they have to have continuous injections all the time. But you mentioned there's something that is around the horizon where it could elevate

an individual's testosterone, but they are producing that on their own. Exactly. Yeah. So how does that work? Well, exactly. It's the same. It's a plasmid gene therapy technology, except we put the gene in for testosterone production and then it sends a signal to your body cells to increase that production of testosterone. And then you can titrate it based off how much you need. So it'd be like customized gene therapy for everyone's testosterone level. So instead of having to inject yourself every week or twice a week or whatever, which is super annoying for TRT, you just do one gene therapy and you're good for one and a half to two years. And also theoretically, since everything's working together, since your body's producing that set amount of testosterone,

other functions would probably improve as a byproduct of that, not just your testosterone. Yeah, exactly. Well, testosterone also, I mean, the reason I think it works so well is because, like Mark was saying, it basically allows people to feel better. They have more energy. They have more strength. They just feel better overall.

They're going to work out more. They're going to exercise more. They're going to be more motivated to eat better, all that stuff, right? I think that's why a lot of these things work so well in the first place. It just allows them to do the fundamentals. Yeah.

I mean, someone on TRT, right? It's just like, it's one or two injections a week. It's pretty straightforward. So what's the treatment like for the like one and a half, two year treatment that you were just explaining? Yeah, that's the beauty. I guess I didn't mention it.

The beauty of this technology is it's literally a subcutaneous injection. I just did it for, do you guys know Juji Mufu? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's hilarious. He's like, I'm- He needs to be leaner and more jacked.

Exactly. So we just did the Falstad for him. That's insane. He doesn't need Falstad. He's like, thank you. Thank you for making me GMO'd. then he's like, he doesn't need Falstad. He's like, thank you. Thank you for making me a GMO. So he's, he's excited about that.

So, but he's, but his biological age was 43. And so we're going to track it. So we'll be posting in three to six months and we'll see how much we reduce it. He's only 27, by the way. Wait,

I'm kidding. He's 39. He's 39. Yeah. Wait, wait, 40. But so, but his biological age was higher.

So that's why he's upset. But obviously, I think, and this is why I think it's going to be a huge industry for the bodybuilding world, especially maybe retired ones. But even people like Chris Bumstead, he's really interested in health and longevity. He wants to make sure that after he retires, he can still do whatever he wants to do and not have to worry about his health. So he's investing in his health early on, which is why we're doing everything for him. And he's a smart guy. I think he's a really smart guy. But I think anabolic steroids

and the way a lot of people train definitely accelerates aging. Is that a trend you've noticed? I mean, if you just look at a lot of bodybuilders' faces... They look tired. They look age, right? And that's the marker of what's going on internally, right? When your face looks older,

that's a sign of what's going on inside too. So I think if, and Juju will be a great case study, and obviously Chris is young, so it doesn't matter as much, but it'll be great to show everyone how much we can decrease his biological age. I'm sure it'll be at least six, seven years, and he's going to feel great on the phallostatin.

But then we're probably going to do the IV stem cells for him, too. I think he's going to come down to Cabo. So is phallostatin available in the States? We do it in Mexico and Honduras, and then, well, Prospera. That's where we have our clinical trials as well, just because, again, the regulation here is just so strict.

So we do our trials offshore so we can expedite them and get things done quickly. Right. And move things along because otherwise at least one state where we can, like anything goes, you know, Montana. Oh,

that is good. The governor just recently changed the law. So we're thinking of opening. There we go. Yeah. So phase one in investigational things like stem cells, gene therapy can be used there now without repercussions for doctors. Oh, nice.

Planning our vacation already. Yeah, so we're probably going to build a clinic in Montana. Let's go. Literally, let's go. What does that treatment cost, though? It's $25,000 right now. I think in the next year or so, we'll probably hopefully get the price a bit lower. But as I was saying, any new technology, it's going to be

expensive, right? And there's going to be early adopters. There's six months of ads on the show, and we can maybe swap it out, right? Yeah, exactly. You're getting the better deal here. What about for some other things that might go on people? You know, I think you

did mention earlier, like arthritis. My grandpa, when he was old, as he was aging he had a hard time moving his hands around they were puffy and things like that, what about things like eyesight, hearing what do we got for some of that stuff

that's a cool thing instead of just having generic stem cells we're going to have customized stem cells for different issues so for ophthalmology you can have different cell lines than you have for osteoarthritis because they're more likely to differentiate into the tissue that you want because they're gene edited and they're customized for whatever you're trying to achieve.

So we actually have an ophthalmologist on our team and he does stem cell injections for retinitis pigmentosa, which is an inherited condition where they go blind basically, but stem cells can actually slow it down and reverse it to a certain extent. But we're actually going to make a gene therapy for that as well. And then the most common thing is age-related macular degeneration, right? It's just like AMD. They're just people aging, right?

What is that? Again, same underlying path. Do you think there's eye drops for it now that kind of mimic having like readers on for X amount of hours or something like that? Not that yet, but we do have exosome eye drops, which can be used for dry eyes. And it can actually like treat it so that you do a course of it and you don't have to keep using those eye drops to keep lubricating them. Because it helps to make your body's own production of like the lubricant. But the point is you can do stem cell and exosome injections for AMD and it's a much better alternative

than what they have available just like standard of care in terms of like improving vision and eyesight. So even if like my vision's been pretty shitty since like day one, like it would still help me? Depends on what the cause is, right? And because you have to understand

the underlying cause. If it's obviously just a genetic thing, then only a gene therapy could help that. But if it's a more degenerative process or inflammatory process, like most things are, then stem cells can help that. How about neurological disorders, like Alzheimer's? Yeah, well, one thing that I think is not talked about enough

are certain peptides, like insulin is a peptide. It's been around forever. I think everyone knows insulin. But you can actually do something called intranasal insulin. And it works. It goes straight to your brain and it increases white cortex matter. It's been studied like there's a lot of PubMed studies on it.

But again, because it's not patentable, there's no patent on insulin. And so you're not going to get lots of press on it. But the fact that there's something that can even help dementia and has good studies on it but isn't talked about is like a disservice to our patients, right? And like, because there's so many people suffering with mild cognitive impairment, dementia. A lot of people are calling it type 3 diabetes because of the chronic inflammation and insulin resistance that happens.

And it's so linked to type 2 diabetes because of the blood sugar dysregulation and everything. So intranasal insulin is such an easy thing that you can do. It has no side effects, very safe, and it can help improve your memory and your cognition. And then we can combine that with like intravenous stem cells and exosomes because exosomes, the way I explain them is basically like, imagine you have chicken soup, the chicken, the meat part is the stem cells, and then the broth is the exosomes. So it has all the nutrients in there, but it doesn't have the cells. And why is that important? Because then they can go everywhere. They can cross the blood-brain barrier because the stem cells can't cross that.

So when you do it intravenously, they can cross it, and they can help with neuroinflammation. They can help with neurogenesis, stimulating growth of nerve cells. And then we also have an interventional radiologist on our team. This guy's a badass. He's been doing this stuff for 10 years in the Middle East and Iran and stuff like that, and he actually injects stem cells directly into the brain. Wow.

And he also injects them into... How do you go into the brain? Like the back of the head or the nose? You can go... Well, he does the carotid artery to feed it into the brain. But then you can also do interventional neuro... It's called interventional neuroradiology. You use live imaging and you go into the vessels in the brain.

What type of results has he seen doing that? It's called intramural neuroradiology. You use live imaging and you go into the vessels in the brain. What type of results has he seen doing that? It's been incredible. He's like patients, like even if you have severe dementia, you can usually take them back a stage is what we usually tell people. So if you have severe, you can go to moderate. If you have moderate, you can go mild. If you have mild, you can go back basically being normal. So that's kind of where we're at right now.

But once we combine it with like our gene therapies that we're working on, we're pretty confident we'll be once we combine it with our gene therapies that we're working on, we're pretty confident we'll be able to reverse things almost completely. Would that nasal spray be something that would be preventative? Exactly. I've just started to test it on myself just for cognition and focus.

And I've noticed difference. And Dave Asprey, he's done it. So it's like a biohacking thing too. You know what I mean? It doesn't mess with your blood sugar? You need carbs? No, that's the cool thing. Because it's not going into your bloodstream.

It's not going into your bloodstream. It's not going into your bloodstream. It just goes down and gets processed by your body. So, and there's no, even if you overdose by whatever reason, like usually you just do 20 IUs, but like if you like by accident do more or whatever, it's not going to cause any blood sugar effects. So super safe. So where is that? Something like that found?

Well, that's the problem. You can't even, you can't get, you'd have to get a, you basically have to get a doctor who would know what they're doing with peptides, which there's probably like a few dozen in the States that would know how to prescribe it and stuff like that. Fuck. You can't get it at Walmart or whatever. I mean, you could just, I mean, the problem is you could get a prescription, I guess, and do it yourself. But it's better to have a doctor supervise you, right? Just because they can tell you the dosing and the protocols.

You never know what the hell's going to happen. Yeah. No, no, exactly. But I think, you know, this guy, the interventional radiologist, he's coming, he comes with us to Mexico and he can do injections into the heart, into the liver, into the kidneys, all with stem cells. He's had patients who had CHF, like congestive heart failure, which is basically heart failure, like who had like 15% ejection fraction.

And then after stem cells, they went up to like 40%. That's like life-changing. Like it goes from basically being not able to walk because you're out of breath all the time and your legs are becoming swollen to being able to like exercise. And again, that's what it's all about, getting people to exercise again,

getting them to move again so they don't get deconditioned. And a lot of times with chronic disease, that's what happens, right? As soon as they get Parkinson's, they get whatever, they become off balance, they can't exercise, and you just keep falling down from there. And drugs don't do anything to reverse that, right? Their drugs are just, all they're doing is treating the symptoms. Parkinson's is actually really interesting because there's a trial that just came out from Blue Rock Therapeutics, which acquired the stem cell company. And they made their own proprietary stem cell technology specifically for Parkinson's to increase dopamine.

Because dopamine is lowered when you're in Parkinson's disease. That's one of the hallmarks of it. And they actually injected the stem cells directly into the brain. And then they found there was two groups, a low dose group and a high dose group. And the high dose group did better, but everyone responded really well to it and got better over time. Like their rigidity, their motor symptoms, because those stem cells actually turned into new neurons and generated more dopamine.

So that's true engraftment and true regenerative, because they're using the iPSC cells I was talking about earlier. That's the second gen tech, iPSC. What about for things like, I don't know, there's so many things that plague our country, but like, I guess like diabetes, heart disease. You did mention a little bit about heart disease. Yeah, no. I mean, with diabetes, we can actually inject the stem cells directly into the pancreatic artery.

So it goes into the pancreas and it can help. You guys are doing some of this now? Yeah. Yeah. My IR guy has been doing it for years and he's had patients who've been able to come off insulin. And there's been trials done in those parts of the world, like Iran, India. There are clinical studies from there

showing that this is an effective strategy. Again, that's very safe, has minimal risk with it, and can help people get off insulin. And you guys work on lifestyle interventions. Of course, yeah, optimizing peptides. We have a nutritious biochemist who works with them on lifestyle. I always think that's the foundation.

But a lot of people are coming to us because they've already usually tried that stuff. And then they're kind of like, what's my options? I'm usually their last resort. And then they're hoping that we have something that can help them. And most times we do. I think with coronary artery disease, we don't have anything specific for that yet. We can treat after you have a heart attack or after you have heart failure, we can help with that because you can

help with scar tissue and you can help with the heart function. But the problem with coronary artery disease is that it's built up a plaque and calcifications and all these inflammatory cells. So we're working, we have some ideas on gene therapies for that, but we don't have any specific intervention for that yet. How about something like depression? Because you just mentioned dopamine. Oh yeah, well, the V-shot, as we're calling it. Well, the V-shot, if you Google it, it comes up as vaginal shot, but we're going to rebrand that. Andrew, stop Googling him. Hold on, let me double check. The V-shot, as we call it, it's called the vagus nerve injection, and we inject it into

the vagus nerve, which is in the front of your neck. And there's something called the stellate ganglion, which feeds into your central nervous system, the parasympathetic nervous system. And so what happens, we know that, like Paul Conti, he's a well-known psychiatrist. He talks a lot about unresolved emotional trauma kind of being the root of many mental health disorders.

And one of the other things is neuroinflammation. And so those are two things we're kind of treating. Basically, by treating the vagus nerve with peptides or even exosomes, it has an anti-inflammatory effect and also helps to reset the nervous system. So I've done it for young girls. I've done it for girls with panic attacks, obviously people with anxiety, PTSD. We're working with the Canadian military to try to get this covered.

Canada has military? Never mind. Yeah, I know. It's like two people. Devin Laird would be upset about it. covered so that they can't ask military. Devin Larratt would be upset. That was, you know, Devin, the arm muscle guy.

Yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing the false time for him next week. He's a, but he's a huge military guy. We've talked about, you know, how can we get this covered for the vets? Because there's so many vets out there with PTSD and there's like no options for them.

Right. And the V shot can actually make a huge difference. And we can combine that with intravenous exosomes because that cross the blood brain barrier and help with neuroinflammation. And then ideally what we like to do, but we can't do it everywhere is we like to combine it with like psilocybin or ketamine assisted therapy. Um,

because then you get like the whole kind of package of, uh, resetting their body, right. And then resetting their mind, resetting their nervous system. Cause that's the whole principle behind it. Right.

There's so many unresolved unconscious issues that people need to go through and they need them they need the psilocybin assisted therapy to work through those yeah let me ask you something with like the gene therapy stuff because there's so many different applications there's phylostatin there's one for testosterone there's all these do you guys are you guys at all packaging certain things into like okay this will give you these three benefits if you want just this one benefit like can we bundle things are you bundling stuff right yeah no pretty i mean i think our most you may also like this that's a car i mean penis enlargement uh yeah so no, that's,

definitely our most popular thing is the anti-aging package, which is basically the intravenous stem cells with exosomes, the false adenine gene therapy. And then we also do the stem cell facial. So, because a lot of people want to look younger too. And it basically lasts for three to four years and you avoid getting Botox. Because the problem with Botox,

it basically just paralyzes your muscle. It's a toxin, right? And what, what do you see these 60 year old white woman on? Yeah. Face won't move no matter what. And once the problem is Botox actually causes muscle atrophy. And so over time their face actually sags, right? And that's why it's Botox is like a cult. Once you're in it, you have to stay in it. So, so if we can get people out of that cult, then that's what we're trying to do. But that's kind of our anti-aging package, I'd say, that's the most popular.

But because this is such a hot field and we're just growing exponentially, I just hired a pediatrician, which I think is super important to talk about because we can treat autism and cerebral palsy. And those are two conditions that the medical community is completely unmet needs. Those parents are in such tough positions,

like having a kid and being told that there's nothing they can do. And these things can actually make a big difference. Again, I was very skeptical of this stuff, but I've seen it firsthand on how much it can change people's lives. And there's no harm, right? Yes, maybe it's expensive, but other than that, it's not going to make your kid worse or whatever. And we have a pediatrician who specializes in that. So with kids with

autism, how? Because neuroinflammation. That's what we think and the microbiome. And that's why FMT can help with autism as well. What are the root causes? If you read about the root causes of autism, it's consistently neuroinflammation and gut dysbiosis and the microbiome,

the gut-brain access being disturbed and all that. So those are are two of the biggest root causes. It's not like you can necessarily... I mean, there are some people who've literally gone from they're literally not talking to talking. And that's life-changing for the parents and their kids and their emotional intelligence, all that stuff. So it can be...

And it's also one of those things that's like, what else do they have to offer you here? It's not like they have they have to offer you here, right? It's not like they have anything else to offer you. So I think the people who criticize unconventional stuff, it's like, well, what are you doing for it? Right, yeah, what's the alternative? What about something like ADHD?

That, neuroinflammation is a component of that, so you can help a little bit with intravenous exosomes, but I would say the bigger stuff is actually, Dave Asprey showed it to me it's like this band that basically helps to does neurofeedback and helps and you play a game there's this game you can play it's called Endeavor I think Endeavor OTC and basically

it's you play that and you use neurofeedback this helmet it's not a helmet it's like a band and basically you train your brain to become more focused. And it actually works. Dave said he's had so many people who he's treated with this. But again, not promoted a lot because it's not pharmaceutical-based.

I heard James Nestor more recently, and James Nestor repeatedly mentions that he's not a doctor. He's more like a reporter. He just reports the information. But it's his belief through all the research that he's seen and through talking to many doctors that ADHD is actually a sleep disorder, which I found to be super fascinating. But it has a lot to do with hypoxia and sleep apnea and things like that. So how does he treat it? He tries to teach people to breathe through their nose, tape the mouth shut. A lot of young people. And also encourages people to just chew hard foods

and things like that to help build up the jaw and the airway and things of that nature. Right, yeah. No, that makes sense. I think that, again, you're coming back to first principles, right? What's the root cause? And so if you're doing that

and combining it with something like this, I feel like you could change a lot of people with ADHD's lives. And it's completely against the pharmaceutical route. The pharmaceutical route is not a good one for ADHD. It's over-prescribed. It causes addiction issues. It can lead to blood pressure, heart issues.

So it's all about getting awareness about the alternatives because the standard model is not working. Let me ask you this. We were talking about things like the standard model of not working. Let me ask you this. We were talking about things like the standard model of how people treat ADHD or even how people are attempting to work with something like autism,

but what are some treatments that you've seen that are very popular that are like, eh, that's not ideal? I know there's probably a bunch. There's too many. I mean, cortisone for me is like the one that got me into regenerative medicine in the first place because I was a sports doctor initially. And, you know, basically that destroys joints. Like it eats away at

cartilage. There's been studies showing that one injection can accelerate the progression of osteoarthritis. So imagine people who get it done all the time, like every three, four months. And then the funny part is these doctors are combining it with something called Marcane, which is also a chondrotoxic anesthetic. They're not even using the right anesthetic. And these guys don't know it because they don't read the science.

The science is out there about this stuff, but they don't want to look at the basic science. They're just trying to focus on like, okay, he's out of pain for a few months. Get out of my hair. It's like a 10-minute appointment. Do your injection, get out. Like that's, that's kind of what they're focused on. And I think that's, it's, but that's with every chronic disease almost, right? Like even with like the most common obviously is like heart disease,

diabetes, hypertension, right? Dementia, like those are like the big four. And like, what are we doing for all those? They're just symptomatic management and the drugs aren't really doing anything to reverse it, to slow it down, or to even really make their quality of life a lot better. Most of them are just like, especially the dementia ones, those drugs barely do anything,

but they're still prescribed all the time by doctors. So I think a lot of this comes from industry, unfortunately. If you're a regular doctor, think about what your education is after you finish med school and after you finish residency. It's like maybe going once a year to a conference that's funded by a pharmaceutical company.

That's literally what most doctors do. And the medical literature, from 1900 to 1950, it took 50 years for the medical knowledge database to double. And then it was 50 years. And then it decreased to 40 years, 30 years. Guess what it is now for for medical knowledge database to double? No, four times that.

15 years? 73 days. So imagine going from years and years to like three months, basically. Oh, I see. So it's like there's so much information out there that's increasing so fast. So how are people going to keep up with it? And it's impossible unless you're actually interested in learning medicine and health and reading about the...

You have to see the big picture. And the big picture is hard to see because there's so much misinformation out there. And the reason I think I'm good at seeing the big picture is because of what happened with Tesla. I remember when everyone kept telling me to sell, they're like, you're crazy for investing in Tesla. All the headlines were like, Tesla's going to go bankrupt. So that's what's called FUD, fear, uncertainty, and doubt. And there's a lot of FUD around medicine right now.

And it happened during COVID and it's happening with chronic disease. And the FUD that they did during Tesla was the same thing. And who was that orchestrated by? The oil companies, right? And they wanted them to go bankrupt. They did not want that company to succeed because it disrupts their entire industry. And so it's the same thing with medicine. I see that. And to me, it's clear as day.

So I know I'm on the right path and, you know, I'm going to keep on going. I want you guys to imagine that you're wearing a cast on your hand and you're going through your whole day with this cast hand. Well, because your fingers don't move, your hand will start to become stiff, weak, and that'll work its way up your arm. That's the same thing that happens when you wear these damn shoes. OK, sorry to curse, but it's frustrating because these shoes that have a narrow toe box, although they look nice in their Nikes, narrow toe box. So your toes can't move they're not flat so your foot is in this weird thing and it's not getting stronger and they're not flexible so

they don't move and your foot just moves like this all day which means your feet are getting weaker that's why we partner with vivo barefoot shoes they have a bunch of shoes for the gym and casual shoes but the thing about these shoes is that they are wide they are flat and they are flexible so your foot can do what it needs to do and it can get stronger over time that's going to allow you to be a better stronger athlete andrew how can they get them yes that's over at vivo barefoot.com slash power project when you guys get there you'll see a code across the top make sure you use that code for 15 off your entire order again vivo barefoot.com slash power project links in the description as well as the podcast show notes throw these away

watch the watch the camera what's uh anything uh new or different with like peptides i mean i i have heard people talk about like nad and some of these things being good for um longevity and i think that these might be a little bit more relevant to some of the audience because this is stuff they could have a lot easier access to because you can get peptides online, in case anybody didn't know. But the only one I would recommend is CanLabs Research.

The reason is not just because he's a Canadian manufacturer, it's because he actually, his biosynthesis of everything is the best I've seen. And I've seen different manufacturers. The problem with most of the USA manufacturers, they say made in US, but what they do is they actually manufacture it in China and then they just bottle it in the US. So you've got to be careful where you're ordering

from. But CanLab's research is like a legit one. Yeah, that's the one. John Francois, he's like the godfather of peptides. So he's like the one who taught Matt Cook, he taught me, he's much, much more knowledgeable than William Seeds, even though William Seeds claims. It's pretty wild when you start to get down to finding the person

that actually made some of this stuff. It's wild. It's this guy. Wow. He has more peptide selection than anyone in the world. And so I think not necessarily NAD, but there's one called MOTSC, M-O-T-S-C, and that's a mitochondrial peptide. So it helps to increase your body's own production of NAD and helps to make the mitochondria more efficient.

So that's a really good peptide if you want to increase cardiovascular capacity, you want to increase performance. I've had NHL athletes who said it changed their whole game because it's performance enhancing, obviously. MOTSC? Yeah, M-O-T-S-C. You do five milligrams a day for 30 days, and then you can decrease the dose to like every other day and eventually find the right dose. But the high dosing is important.

I see that some of these companies are now selling ATP. Do you have any idea of what that would be used for? No. Why are they selling ATP? I don't know. That's what creatine is for, cre are they selling ATP? I don't know. I just, that's what creatine's for, creatine. Yeah,

I don't, I don't know, I don't know like, I don't know what you would, yeah, inject that straight energy substrate for, but. Yeah,

no, I have, I actually don't know much about that. I think, pretend, I don't, it's usually not the substrate itself because like,

let's think about like one example from bodybuilding. It's like a potentiator. I'll go in on this shipping if you want. Think about like, think about like, how how much they cost. It's only $60. Unless I'm missing something.

It says without. You just need the bacteriostatic water. You already got that in SEMA. Don't fuck up because I'm using that because I was using injectable L-carnitine. Don't start saying shit to make people think I'm using drugs. You better chill. I have some too. Jesus Christ.

Well, this will be an interesting question. Are you still considered natural if you do the false stat in gene therapy? That's the fucking thing, man. That's what pisses me. I think so. I don't think so, but at this point, I'm really starting not to. I still call myself natural.

Really? I mean, I haven't done that. All right. High five. You're a doctor. You know, at the end of the day, I only care about your opinion. His word is final. Yeah. I got clarification finally. Yeah.

I almost think that if anything breaks the skin, then it's kind of like your natty card's gone. That's how I feel. But that's such a, it's, but what's wrong with improving your health and longevity? Oh, there's nothing wrong with it. I'm all for it. I'm just saying like,

I mean, where, cause everybody brings that up. Like, Oh, where in nature are you going to find X, Y, and Z?

It's like, well, you're not going to naturally, you know, make shit up and then like slice your skin open and throw it in there. You're going to process it. Bodybuilding and powerlifting has always been because of the anabolics that can significantly, like super physiological levels can significantly improve your muscle mass and strength, right? Yes.

This stuff isn't doing that. Like if it's not altered, like then it's creopure, not natural, right? Like that improves performance. I use creopure every day. Ergogenic aid is caffeine. Like that improves performance. I use caffeine every day. Like that improves performance.

I use caffeine every day. Again, I said if it breaks the skin, if you were like cooking and then injecting caffeine, then I'd be like, well, that doesn't seem very natural to me. But then the IV vitamin drips that help with recovery and anti-AID like NAD and NMN. And NMN, FDA recently said it's a drug, so they banned it, which is crazy because you can order off Amazon and Dubai and every other country in the world. Because it works, they had to ban it. So, you know, I don't know. I find, as being in the natural community, I was, you know, I'm very intimately involved. Like, I know Alan Aragon.

Eric Hallam's own. Yeah, I know all those guys, but I think they're outdated, unfortunately. I think they have missed the boat. The medicine has evolved into a technology where we can improve health and longevity, which happens to improve performance. Does that make you not natural? No.

To me, all it's doing is improving your ability to do what you love. I'm going to be able to bodybuild much... No, the reason why this is cool, and in my mind, like, there is conflicting shit going on. But at the end of the day, the reason why I never took steroids when I was younger was

because there is a stupid ass risk to it. There's so many complexities that go into taking testosterone. Guys take testosterone. They don't know how the fuck to come off and they end up messing themselves up. I never wanted to have health issues. So I never used anything and it worked. But the things that he's currently talking about, no health issues so far.

I mean, hopefully it stays that way, but it just seems to be something that's going to help your longevity, help you live longer and help you perform for a longer amount of time. It's not going to take away from your health for your performance. So in my mind, I'm like,

maybe that does take away my natty card. But at the same time, at this point, I don't know if I really care now. No, exactly. I don't know if I give a fuck. That was Exactly. I don't know if I give a fuck. That was my revelation. I was like, I don't think I care whatever weird standard that they have. Because I'd want my mom to do this.

Exactly. I did it for both my parents. Why wouldn't I do it for them, right? Like, you know, it's like, to me, it's a no-brainer and it has so many benefits. And peptides in general, just so you understand, they're very safe, like, because they're naturally produced by your body, right? And so your body already knows, recognizes the signal. Your body also produces testosterone.

That's true. That's true. That's true. It's just the dosing, the dosing, right? It's all about dose. I got to say, just in my own experience, I've never really seen anyone with any side effect that I know of that I could see, and even for myself, with peptides. I've never seen anybody have. I haven't either. I've never seen anything.

I've never heard anybody say, man, I had to come off that. I got super sick. I guess there are certain ones that you could, if you use too much, obviously something like insulin, you got to be really careful with that one. But for the most part, I have never heard anybody report any bad news other than just like they thought it worked or they thought it didn't work. Exactly. So it's about safety and then it's about efficacy. We know it's safe. It has little to no harm and it has potentially a lot of upside. So why not try it before a lot of pharmaceuticals? Because there's even peptides that can increase your dopamine

and serotonin production now, and so you can use them as an alternative to SSRIs. But again, they're not going to take off, because they will take off within our communities and social media and stuff like that, but they're not going to take off mainstream because they're not patentable. And because you can't patent it, you can't make a lot of money off of it, but they're not going to take off mainstream because they're not patentable. And because you can't patent it,

you can't make a lot of money off of it, so they're not going to push it. And that's the narrative that they're going to continue to follow. They made it clear that they do not care about people, they don't care about health, they care about profits. And I think we need to, as a community, it's about us raising awareness about what's out there so people can empower their own health.

You have to really self-educate now because you can't trust your doctor, to be honest. Because if you go to your average doctor, and I've had this happen many times, they'll say, oh, I'm going to go see Dr. Khan for stem cells. The doctor will be like, what? Don't do that. You're crazy. You're going to die. You're going to get cancer. Please stop.

And then I have to tell them, what does your doctor even know about this stuff? They don't even know anything. You can at least be honest and be like, hey, I don't know much. Maybe we don't have enough evidence. Talk to him. But to say a word about something you're not expert in,

it makes them look bad. And I just tell the patients, I'm like, look, there's this much evidence. I show them the research. And then they're just like, okay, clearly my doctor doesn't know anything. And even with peptides, most doctors have no knowledge about it

because it's not pharmaceutical industry that's promoting it. And so I think the medicine landscape is shifting and now we're going to be looking more at what's called real-world evidence, which is does it actually work or not? And that's what really most people care about. Randomized control trials are great and they're always going to have a place, but if you have thousands or millions of data points because of patient registries and all the data of real world, isn't that more valuable than just some RCT with 100 people?

To me, it is. And I think to a lot of clinical epidemiologists who are educated and not biased by pharmaceutical companies, they say the same thing. One of my friends is an MD-PhD on this clinical epi, and I've talked to him so much about this, and he admits it. He's like, pharmaceutical companies, even with PCSK9 inhibitors, which I think Peter Attia promotes a lot,

a lot of that is statistical fuckery that they do just to get a magnitude of result that they want because there's different types of risk reduction. There's something called relative risk reduction versus absolute risk reduction. And by the way, what do PCSK9 inhibitors do? Oh, they lower cholesterol. So they're basically like an alternative to statin, but they don't cause the side effects like a lot of statins do. So they've been getting a lot of press about them.

But the actual magnitude of effect is questionable. What that means is like, how many people do you actually need to treat to actually save their life, like decrease the risk of dying? And that's called number needed to treat versus what's called number need to harm how many people are going to get harmed by this intervention and the number need to treat for a lot of these chronic disease drugs is actually very poor it's like statins is like one in like 200 so people think in their mind they're like oh i'm taking a statin therefore i'm going to reduce my risk of dying but it's not the number need to treat is not that high so when you look at the actual evidence then you realize you realize, wait a minute,

most of these drugs don't even do much and they have risk and there's a better alternative. So then it's just like, you know, it's like checkmate, you know, like they're going to, it's going to sooner or later, it's going to, the stuff is going to keep taking off. And, um, there's a reason why I think like all the biggest, uh, venture capital, private equity groups in the world are all investing into health and longevity now. As you mentioned, I don't think you mentioned

some of your investors are like... Thiel Capital. Thiel Capital is the guy who made PayPal, Peter Thiel. And then Sam Altman, the chat GPD guy, is also back to our company, Minicircle. And then we have private equity groups from Asia and Europe that are backing my company, Eterna. So we got a lot

of well-known people and like, you need those people because, you know, you need protection. And when you're disrupting an industry, you're going to have a lot of people coming after you. And my, you know, I think medicine needs disruption because it's overdue. So you have a hot date coming up and you look in your closet and all you see are the old, ugly clothes that you usually wear and you're going to wear tonight. It's time to end that, guys. That's why we've partnered with Viore Clothing because they have some amazing athleisure clothes that you can wear in the gym when working out. But also clothes that you can wear on a date or during Hanukkah or whatever. You can wear these clothes wherever and they feel amazing.

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That's V-U-O-R-I dot com slash powerproject, and you'll automatically receive 20% off your order. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. See if you can bring up that clip I sent you, Andrew. I sent you a clip of Dana White kind of talking about not wanting to go to the doctor. Yeah, so I'm actually treating his trainer, Milos.

So I'm hoping I'm going to be able to treat, uh, Dana. I'd love to text it to me, Mark. Cause it didn't come through on the email. Oh, I'd love to,

I'd love to help like, you know, people like that because, um, and a lot of my patients say this, they're like, you're the only doctor I'll go to because they, they trust me and they,

they, and I'm like real, you know what I mean? Like I'm not, I'm not trying to, and because I'm also a gym bro. So that was- I think one of the reasons why like it's really dope is because like you're not purely attacking this

like most biohackers do. When I hear biohackers talk about a lot of stuff, it's purely use this pill, use this red light therapy, even though red light therapy is great. I have a device at home. I use it almost every single day, but they only talk about these things. Whereas you've talked about lifestyle, nutrition, all these things that sleep, all these things that people should fucking be doing already.

That's going to move the needle in a huge way. Along with all these things stacked on top, it's going to make you superhuman. It's exactly, but not many people think that way. Yeah. It's, it's a, it's a foundation. Once you have the foundation covered with like all the like lifestyle stuff, then it's like, what's next? And this isn't what's next is selling gene therapy and all that anti-aging stuff. Now let's see what you think of this. Never talk to a doctor about my general health ever again. If I break my arm, I'm going to go see a doctor. If I need surgery, I'm going to go see a doctor. My general health, never again. None of them know what they're talking about. They're all full of shit.

All they know is to put you on pills and put you on medicine. That's all they know. He had all of these conditions. I've been talking to doctors. None of them could fix any of my problems. I said, I'm surprised he can even speak. So that's Gary Brekka. He's an interesting guy.

A lot of people did have a lot to say about that. Well, Gary, I mean, I can tell you, one of my patients went to him and he wasn't very happy because he chose his 10,000 just to get a blood work review and he's not even a medical doctor. But I'm not saying he's not helpful, but I'm just saying a lot of these guys, I think they are overselling themselves because they get a little bit of fame.

And I think they just start gouging people and start saying that they can do the whole amazing things when they can't because they don't even have the best technology. We do. So and then number two, he is right in that most doctors are focused. And it's called the Dunning-Kruger effect. You guys know that? I think it's like you're smarter than you think you are or whatever, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

And doctors, because especially in a lot of Ivy League doctors and even in Ontario where I come from, to get into an Ontario med school is the equivalent of getting into an Ivy League school. So you have to to like have almost perfect gpa like high scores all that stuff and then so and then once you're selected they basically tell you you're like a god you're like you know you're cream of the crop you're the best of society blah blah blah yeah and so you're told from like basically you're indoctrinated in the system where you're institutionalized and told that you're the best at what in the world for whatever and then so you think that everything you're learning is from the best people and then you also think what you know is must be the best, so you think that everything you're learning is from the best people. And then you also think what you know is, must be the best. And so you never question it. And so you go through this whole process of being like, I must know everything because I'm a doctor and I went

to this med school and I did this training. How can anyone possibly know more than me? And so this is where the God complex comes from because so many doctors have that, right? They're, they think they know everything. And you know, for me, it was always just like, I was always the opposite. I'm like, man, I'm, I'm dumb as shit. I just got lucky. I just feel like I got lucky for where I am. I never thought I was that smart. I just was a hard worker. And obviously, because I was a hard worker and I never viewed myself as smarter than anyone, I just always kept learning. And so because I kept learning, that's what's been the main difference between me and everyone else. And I think if I had a conversation with Dana, he'd have hopefully a very different perspective.

Because I lift. I've deadlifted 600 pounds. I'm pretty strong. I love working out. I've been optimizing my sleep and nutrition, all that stuff for years. I know Alan, I follow his stuff, like Aragon. He's probably the best nutrition resource out there. And there's so many other people I follow to like learn about this stuff and stay on the cutting edge of like supplements, nutrition and all that.

Yeah. So I know the lifestyle stuff in and out and I practice it myself. But on top of that, I also happen to be a doctor and I happen to do cutting edge innovative therapies. So I can give a unique perspective that a lot of doctors can. Because Dana is, he's saying the same thing like, I don't know if you guys know Dan Brazilian yeah yeah yeah like that guy says the same stuff as him he's basically I don't trust doctors they're all drug pushers blah blah blah which is like I'm not saying like most doctors are but there are some of us who aren't and we're actually generally trying to do what's best for our people and even the doctors who are drug pushers

it's not necessarily they don't care. They want to get people better. It's not nefarious. Yeah, it's not nefarious. They don't know what they don't know. And that's just a problem, right? They're just educated in that system, and that's what they've been told. And so they just continue to follow that because most doctors are doing a job.

They're not necessarily interested in changing the world. They're not necessarily interested in like, you know, changing the world. If you really listen to the words that Dana White said, you know, he said, I, you know, went to everybody and nobody could fix me. And I think that that's really important to understand. The only person that can fix anything is going to be yourself. It doesn't matter what treatment you get. Even if we go and get some of your stuff done, that's going to be helpful. But now I have to treat myself well in order to like, you know, still stay around.

So I think people tend to get very frustrated, which is understandable because you might go from one doctor to another and you might hear a difference of opinion. Like, I don't know why that guy told you to exercise. Your blood pressure is way too high and you go to the other guy and he's like man well you should really ride your bike and you should get out and do some cardio and and you hear from somebody else that you should lift weights or whatever the things are maybe somebody just sends you off with some pills uh you know metformin or something like that and try to manage your blood sugar and your blood pressure or something along those lines and so it's understandable that people get frustrated but you know, Dana White years ago, and along with just our general population, don't do a good job of managing our health.

We don't do a good job of staying connected to walking, eating properly, getting good rest. Even just something as simple as like studying how to not get yourself so stressed can be like one of the strongest, most powerful moves you can ever make because that's really what each day is about. It's like, what are you going to be able to handle, not just now and today, but in the future? Yeah, no, and that's exactly, our slogan is empowering the body's

natural healing abilities. That's literally what we do. It's because your body has what it needs to heal. We're just giving it the signals and the tools it needs so it can do it. And we're trying to build more resiliency in your body. Because at the end of the day, like, you know, with the food and the pollutants and everything in an environment, people are still going to get exposed to a lot of crap. And so you have to basically give the body the ability to deal with whether it's actual

toxin stressors or even mental stressors. And that's where the interventional stuff comes in, like the vagus nerve, even the stem cells, they strengthen your immune system. They help your body to deal with things better. So we're trying to give you resiliency. So whatever you deal with, at least you have a better buffer to deal with it. And that buffer improves the most by lifestyle, but is there things that we can do to add on to that?

And that's what we're trying to do. Let me ask you this. What is the future you envision? Like maybe the 10-year scope, 10 years from now. What is your ideal? Yeah, no, for me, it would be personalized, 3D bioprinted, tissue engineered, stem cells customized for everyone

for their problem. So basically that way you have your whatever, let's say you have a cartilage defect or you have a pathway in your body

that we can address. Small wrists. Yeah. That's not a medical problem. Just me. He's just walking around and his wrist is like the size

of a boxing glove. But no, what I see is basically personalized cell therapy. So essentially, we figure out what the problem in your body is, and then we can make a customized gene-edited cell therapy that is embedded with those hydrogels I was talking about, so it's protected. And we can inject it or implant it or whatever to fix the pathway or the problem.

And so we're actually going to be doing this. I was just talking with my scientists and we're going to be doing this with kidney patients. We're injecting stem cells into the kidneys directly. We have a lot of like biobuilders, stuff like that, who have kidney disease. Do you guys know Fuad?