Mark Bell's Power Project - Power Project EP. 20 - Realworld Tactical Tony Sentmanat
Episode Date: March 16, 2018We had Tony Sentmanat aka "Realworld Tactical" in the house. He and Mark Bell talk about training, his history in Law Enforcement and the current state of violence and shooting in the US. ➢Subscribe... Rate & Review on iTunes at: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mark-bells-power-project/id1341346059?mt=2 ➢Listen on Stitcher Here: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mark-bells-power-project?refid=stpr ➢Listen on Google Play here: https://play.google.com/music/m/Izf6a3gudzyn66kf364qx34cctq?t=Mark_Bells_Power_Project ➢Listen on SoundCloud Here: https://soundcloud.com/markbellspowerproject ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell
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If you come to Texas
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Just try to stay on mic
We're rolling
Oh are we
Yeah
We're just
We're just starting going
Right from here
Yeah okay
So you woke up jacked
You always do like a
Like an intro
Sometimes
No intro
Nah we just go
We were talking about
No intro man
That's messed up
Nah
I wanna hear
This is Mark Bell
Mark Bell
That he always does
And we're here with
Tony Semonet
Is that how you say your last name
Sent Manat I see I fucked him We always That's why I don't do an intro Mike Him And we're here with Tony Semenet. Is that how you say your last name? Semenet.
I see.
I fucked it up.
That's why I don't do an intro.
Mike, him.
They always kill my freaking last name.
Any time you have stuff to remember, you have stuff to forget.
That's absolutely correct. So my notes are right here and it's empty.
But you know what?
At least you spelled my name right.
Yeah.
That's Smokey.
Okay.
Smokey, you spelled my name right.
Thank you.
I appreciate that. He likes to pay attention to details. That's good. That's Smokey. Okay. Smokey, you spelled my name right. Thank you. I appreciate that.
He likes to pay attention to details.
That's good.
That's definitely, definitely very important.
So you woke up shredded this morning out of nowhere?
Well, not shredded, but yes, I woke up leaner than I would like to be at this present moment.
Have you done any bodybuilding in the past?
In regards to like what?
Like the trying to get bodybuilding?
Just training for hypertrophy, just trying to get bigger.
I've always done hypertrophy.
Yeah, I've always done it.
It's always been part of my program,
but I've never really concentrated like, I don't know, Ben.
You know what I mean?
Like that's all they do.
You know what I mean?
It's never been part of my regimen, sense of my job.
You like more athletic stuff, explosive movements, things like that?
Yeah, that's always been my thing.
I hate running.
That's one thing I hated. And then
the military or in SWAT, you have to freaking run so damn much.
You were in the Marine Corps. Yeah, I was in the Marines.
And that's a lot of running, huh? Yes.
They run you to the freaking bone.
How much did you weigh when you were in the Marines?
Wow. I mean, it was probably a long-ass time ago, too.
Yeah, 1998, 2002.
So from 18,
I was 22 when I got out.
I was probably getting out of the Marines.
I wasn't really that small.
But after boot camp, I walked in the boot camp, probably the biggest guy there.
I was probably about 215, 220.
Came out of boot camp, I was 175, 180.
Shit, man.
Yeah.
It's like SWAT school.
SWAT school is the same thing.
I walked in.
I lost 15 pounds to get into SWAT school.
Trained because in SWAT school, you run easily 7 to get into SWAT school train. Cause it's all school.
You run easily seven to 10 miles a day for three
weeks, you know, easy plus four hours calisthenics.
So, uh, I walked in there at two 15 and then I
lost 15 pounds in three weeks.
Walked out at 200 pounds.
I actually have the picture.
I'll show it to you when we get out of here.
Do you still do a lot of that training?
Um, like the calisthenics and some of the
different things.
I do sometimes, sometimes, uh, I do so much of the jumping and the body type, you know, explosive movements.
When it comes to like, let's say calisthenics, for example, side straddle hops or jumping
jacks, what people would do.
Right.
I don't really do that that often.
Intensity is too low.
Yeah.
The stuff you do, the intensity is a little higher.
Yeah.
Like I'll do hurdles instead of doing jumping jacks.
You know what I mean?
So it's a variation of the same concept.
I've seen you eat shit on those hurdles pretty bad
every once in a while, man.
Once in a while, every day.
Shit.
The tired you get, what people don't realize is that.
I mean, it's bound to happen.
You do so many of them.
Exactly, exactly.
They see on Instagram or even on YouTube,
you get 10 minutes to see what I did
for an hour and a half to two hours of training.
Yeah.
You know, and it's after, let's just say, in hurdles,
I start off at two feet, three feet, four feet,
explosive jumping.
When you get to that three feet, four feet,
you've already done 40, 50, 60 jumps.
You're going to get tired.
Your body at one point is just not going to make that,
whether you jump it the wrong way, whatever it is.
Those are some of your most popular videos
where you're just like, people, I guess,
want to see you eat shit here and there. You know what? way, whatever it is. And you're going to- Those are some of your most popular videos where you're just like, people, I guess, want
to see you eat shit here and there.
You know what?
I would say people like to see individuals that they're a certain stature.
They want to see the struggle that they've been through.
I think that's like the most common, because everybody always shows all the good, you know?
And I've never been a believer of that.
I've been a believer.
Yeah.
I like to show everyone.
Yeah, I'm here now.
I've been doing this for 22 years, but here's a little couple of clips of what I've gone through to get where I'm at.
Yeah.
You know, and if you don't show that, then you kind of, you're not lying to them, but you're, you're, you're just showing them the good.
You're never showing them, Hey, it takes time.
It takes hard work.
You know what I mean? Because somebody might go try that workout and they try it one time and they're turned off by it right away because they're like, I can't do any of this stuff that he just
did.
Well, of course they can't.
They're not used to it.
They're not used to it.
They're not used to it.
And then a coordination factor, obviously.
People want to start jumping at three feet.
They can't even jump a foot and a half.
Do you have a lot of people that want to jump in with you or is it too crazy?
No, when I'm in knockout zone, usually I'm-
What's knockout zone?
Knockout zone is my resident gym.
Oh, okay.
I thought that was some sort of zone
that you get into.
No, no, no, no.
When I'm at Kale's own gym
down in Miami,
it's my resident gym.
It's owned by Diego Rivera.
He is my partner
in a lot of stuff that I do,
and he's my coach, trainer.
He's also a four-time,
he's a two-time world kickboxing champion
and a Pan-American world multi-champion and South American multi-champion. Shit. Yeah, he's also a four-time, he's a two-time world kickboxing champion and a Pan American world multi-champion and South American multi-champion.
Yeah.
He's about a buck, I don't know, right now he's probably a buck 75, double hip replacement, both of his hips.
You're still terrified of him.
Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, I'm ridiculous.
He's 42 and I mean, I've seen him, he takes down guys that are 22, 23 years old, double his size and pro fighters.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So that guy is hard as nails. You know what I mean? So that guy is hard as nails.
You know what I mean?
Hard as nails.
And whenever I'm there,
usually I go there just to train.
A lot of people,
most of the people there don't,
you know,
when I started doing my stuff,
they don't really want to learn from me,
you know?
So,
but I've had every now and then I'll have someone
that's like,
Hey,
can I train with you?
But usually when I explained to them,
I was like,
listen,
I have a certain program that I have to follow
so I can put you through some stuff, you know what I mean, and see where you're at.
And then I, you know, on the side and then I help them out as they're doing their stuff.
I do my stuff, you know.
You do have something specific though, huh, that you're following.
It's not just, I mean, it kind of looks chaotic when you watch it.
Everybody always says that.
They're like, oh, he's just putting stuff together.
He's like, no, that doesn't work.
Because sometimes you're like pulling a truck and then you're pushing a prowler and then you're like jumping through tires and then you're throwing them.
Yeah.
But again, also too, that's just one part of your workout.
That's, I'm sure, you know, with the setup and everything, it might take some time, but it is just a piece of your workout or at least a piece of that workout for that day.
Correct.
And I think you mentioned you go through it maybe once or twice, kind of depending on how intense it is.
Depending on how intense it is, depending if it's a 70% load, how heavy it is for that
day, what am I doing?
You know, and then they only see-
There's probably a lot of thought that goes into it basically, right?
Correct, yeah.
Because you're like, oh, I did a tire yesterday.
Yeah.
I'm not doing it today.
Yeah.
The program, all of my programs that I try to spend time with people are 12 weeks.
So 12 weeks, those 12 weeks, I break it down and in threes and twos.
So whatever I'm focusing on those 12 weeks, three times a week.
Right.
And then the supplementary, like we talked about yesterday, it's twice a week.
So if I'm working on strength, strength is going to be three times a week, whatever I'm
doing, whether it's accessory work, moving strength, that I say moving strength is then
functional strength, uh, where I'm, you know, having to do something while I'm moving, you
know, heavy loads.
Um, and then you have the speed, explosive stuff for two,
or cardio, for example.
You have that two times a week when I'm working on strength.
Those are 12 weeks.
The next 12 weeks, now I change.
Whatever I gain in strength for those last 12 weeks,
I try to maintain that while I'm trying to get,
now I work on cardio and so on and so forth.
And then it just keeps changing on and forth.
If I'm working on powerlifting these 12 weeks,
I'm going to concentrate on that and then just put the cardio and other stuff and so forth. And then it just keeps changing on and forth. If I'm working on powerlifting these 12 weeks, I'm gonna concentrate on that
and then just put the cardio and other stuff on the backside.
But the whole goal is, is to try to maintain
and not lose any of it.
So because what happens is, you know, as well as I do,
when you focus on something, on one thing,
everything else goes to shit, you know?
And you wanna try to avoid that.
Especially for me that I'm considered, you know,
the hybrid athlete that does both things.
Gotcha. You know, MMA too. Don't forget the MMA. You gotta do the MMA. Yeah, you know, the hybrid athlete that does both things. Gotcha.
You know, MMA too. Don't forget the MMA.
You got to do the MMA.
Yeah, you're doing that as well.
Mixing martial arts and then I do a tactical training as well.
And now you want to get into some powerlifting.
And now, yeah, now some powerlifting, you know, so,
because for me in the beginning, in my 20s,
I never really did powerlifting in regards to those type of numbers.
My goal was always to be able to lift double my body weight
in the big big three which obviously
chest is always the hardest one but i was for i was able to i've been a pretty decent bencher
so i was able to always get double my body weight in benching and then squatting and deadlifting is
you know double your body weight it's not that hard you know so um what what makes you uh want
to work this hard i mean like you're doing a lot of crazy, like I watch it and I think I work out hard and I'm watching him like,
man,
this guy's really tearing shit up.
What's he doing?
I would tell you in the beginning,
uh,
as a law enforcement officer,
uh,
people's lives depended on whether I was proficient at my job and whether I
was physically fit.
I,
my biggest fear was to be inadequate,
be that guy that wasn't prepared and someone's life. and whether I was physically fit. My biggest fear was to be inadequate,
be that guy that wasn't prepared and someone's life was taken
because I wasn't good enough,
because I wasn't tactically prepared,
because I wasn't physically prepared.
Now it's more of a fact of two main things.
One, you always have to lead by example.
So I travel the country teaching law enforcement,
you know, in military,
obviously civilians, tactical training. In law enforcement, you know, in military, obviously civilians, tactical training.
In law enforcement, you can't tell police officer,
hey, do this, do this, do this,
and then not lead by example.
So I have to show them or demo everything
that I'm telling them to do,
and I gotta do it better than them.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's one of the big motivators
that I have to stay in shape.
I have to stay tactically inclined
and be good at mixed martial arts,
and fighting aspects, because it's part of police work. that I have to stay in shape, I have to stay tactically inclined and be good at mixed martial arts,
hard as in fighting aspects,
because it's part of police work.
And then the other aspect is when everybody looks at me,
whether it's on social media,
whether it's on anywhere, here on a podcast,
I'm a direct reflection of every single police officer,
every single Marine that has ever put that pin on his chest
or wore a badge.
When they look at me, they see that's how a cop should be in that kind of shape.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a Marine.
That guy was a Marine and, and, and, you know, or he was SWAT and all SWAT people should
be like that.
So I take that personal.
I take that to the fact of I'm not on the job anymore, but I'm still the guy that people
see and say, well, that's, that's what they should be.
You know what I mean?
Like that.
So that's, I think, what mainly motivates me in regards to, you know, even though I'm getting older, I don't know how much longer I could do it for, but I keep trying.
You try your best to live by that code throughout the rest of your life because it's got to be hard.
You know what I mean?
Like just being in public and just how you treat other people.
Like it's not always easy to have a cool head.
It's not always easy to be the guy
that everybody looks up to, right?
It's difficult.
When every, we all have problems.
We all have personal problems.
You all have issues.
We all have family issues.
And yeah, it's hard sometimes to put that aside
and to be with the public, you know,
and be nice all the time or whatever.
But it's part of the job.
If this is what you signed up for, you signed on the dotted line, this is what you wanted
to be.
Hey, you better, you better be nice to the people that support you, that buy your products
or that you inspire.
And then they want to talk to you.
I've always tried.
Anybody has ever met me.
I tried to my best.
What do you want to talk about?
Ask me what do you want to ask?
30 minutes, 30 minutes, 20 minutes.
Doesn't really matter.
But I'm going to give him that time because you know what?
I could have drove in four and a half hours to come see me.
You know what I mean?
And that means something to me, you know?
Did you have a mentor or something, somebody that,
or is it maybe part of your upbringing that led to you?
It seems like you have a lot of heart.
Most people don't really, you know,
I know going through the Marine Corps can teach you a lot and stuff.
And people that are kind of have the mindset to even go in the Marine Corps in the first place, they probably have at least some discipline going in.
But still, was there like a mentor or was there something just in your childhood that you saw?
Like you mentioned in your own words, you said the other day you grew up in the hood.
Yeah.
And then you ended up, I guess, basically kind of protecting that hood later on being yeah being a police officer going back there is there something
like happened when you were young where you're like you know i don't want to i don't really want
to live that i want to live this way oh obviously yeah you know i want to kind of go almost almost
like opposite and so i i saw you live that way and then you transform yeah i mean i saw the
struggles that my mom my grandmother grandmother, uh, went through
as I got, you know, as a kid, you know, and you see the struggles and you, you don't want those
same struggles for your family when you grew up, you know, and I, and I saw a lot of the stuff that
we talked about, you know, my family relatives and stuff like that, things they went through.
Right. And, and I was part of that for some time. So, uh, I never wanted that for myself growing up,
like as an adult you know i had to
that's why i ended up going to the marines just wanted to get out you know what i mean of that
lifestyle um try to better yourself in whichever way you could that's why a lot of people when they
say you know they blame oh because i grew up in the bad neighborhood and i didn't have no choice
you always have a choice you always got a choice it's just how bad do you want it? And there's tons and tons of multimillionaires that live, that lived, you know,
there, and then they got out, they did what they had to do. They worked hard and it's, it's, it's
what you want. It's how bad do you want it? I was thinking about it, you know, a couple of days ago,
I was thinking, and I've said this before, you know, I grew up in the same house as my brother,
you know, my oldest brother passed away, had drug addiction issues, talk about
it often. I grew up in the same household and like he, he didn't want to live anymore. He didn't like
life. He was kind of miserable. You know, I think the address of heaven and hell is in the same
spots between your ears and it's, you know, life is what you make of it. It's the perception that
you have of things. And for him, for whatever reason, he was kind of wired that way.
And that's the way he felt about life.
But you're absolutely right.
You have choices that you can make.
Yeah.
You can make a decision that you want to do good,
that you want to try to be better.
Yeah, yeah.
I think, I mean, honestly, you know,
it's to say talking about your brother,
just talking to anyone that does suffer from like depression
or does suffer from those things.
I don't even think with them them it's so much a choice.
I think it's the fact that they-
It gets to be a little more complicated sometimes.
Yeah, they see life a different angle than we do.
They have a different perception of life.
And I can say it, because I've lived that.
As a law enforcement officer,
seeing death every single day on a regular basis whether
it was two-year-old kid whether you know and i've seen people take their life in front of me you
know um i wouldn't be able to see that one time yeah like honestly i mean i just wouldn't i
wouldn't be able to that would not work for me yeah it's it's one of those it's tough you know
you and then i was telling you about it you create that disassociation so you leave work at work and
then when you go home you try not, you don't think about it.
Some,
obviously things,
some things will affect you.
Obviously like to dice it.
I don't care who you are.
You go on a scene
where a kid drowns,
two year old kid or,
you know,
and it's hell.
Yeah.
You know,
nobody wants to see that.
I don't care who you are,
how long you've been on the job.
Nobody wants to see
a two year old kid purple
and dying
while you see fire rescue guys
trying to bring him back to life.
They bring him back to life. They bring him back to life.
He gets on the ambulance and then he dies again.
And then he goes,
and then he goes,
they try to bring him back to life.
They bring him back to life.
And then he dies again.
I had a crew one time some years ago where they brought the kid,
I think it was like two or three times.
And the kid ended up,
you know,
passing away.
Yeah.
And the whole crew had to go home.
The whole crew had to go home.
The whole entire fire rescue crew.
Just done.
Everybody was crying.
Everybody was,
cause they saved his life so many times, and he ended up passing away.
There's nothing you could do about that, but you feel like there was something you could do, and you don't realize that that was his day.
Those are things that aren't really thought about is the mental capacity and even just the recovery of people that are trying to help.
trying to help.
And then police officers,
you know,
it seems insane.
The,
just the amount of things and firefighters,
the amount of things that you get called for. Oh,
it's,
it's,
you know,
you locked your keys in the car.
Yeah.
Stupid little calls like that.
Right.
I mean,
it's like,
cause I don't know who else do you,
who else do you call?
Yeah.
Who else?
They get calls all the time where the kids are left inside the car.
Right.
They're locked inside the car and they have to come break the window to get the kid out and things like that.
You go to tons of domestics.
I guess it's just a lot of wear and tear.
Yes.
And then you're expected to always make the right decision all the time.
In seconds.
Yeah.
In seconds.
And then it's always said, you know, a police officer has three or four seconds to make a life altering decision.
it's always said, you know, a police officer has three or four seconds to make a life altering decision. And then, and then the lawyers and everybody else on the other side have hours and
days and months to criticize what you, it took me three seconds. To look at it in super slow motion
and dissect it and say, you didn't follow, you know, law number or whatever, rule number.
Exactly. And you're like, Hey man, I don't, I whipped out a gun. I don't know what's going on.
But at the end of the day,
you know what it is?
It comes back to training.
And then I say it all the time.
I said,
you know,
law enforcement officers,
they get caught up in just working and trying to make money,
trying to work overtime,
trying to work off duties.
And then from there,
they're spending time with their family.
So they don't dedicate because the department's not going to pay for your
training.
You know,
the budget's always, you know,
this and that.
So you're going to get just basic, the least
amount of training possible.
It's up to you on whether you go on your own
time and do the training.
Like this year, I was able to get all my
tactical sponsors to pay for a three-day class
for law enforcement officers down in South
Florida, you know, where I'm going to be giving
three days of my time to them so they get the training. That's cool. You know, they get the Florida, you know, where I'm going to be giving three days of my time to them so they get the training.
That's cool.
You know, they get the stuff, you know,
so I try my best.
It's hard.
And these are guys that are volunteering for it?
Yeah, they, all they got to do is bring ammo.
So they go to the three days, it's August 6th,
7th, and 8th.
They go for three days, they take it off
from their department, however they, you know,
because their department can pay for it.
They'll give them the days off.
They just don't want to pay anything.
So they go and they go on the three days and they, you know, cause their department can pay for it. They'll give them the days off. They just don't want to pay anything.
So they go and they go on the three days and then, you know, we do training all three days for 10 hours a day, seven o'clock in the morning, the five in the afternoon free.
They don't have to pay for nothing.
And I also do like my sponsors.
I have them do giveaways where they get free stuff and they get all kinds of stuff.
You know what I mean?
So sponsors basically help fund it by paying you for your time.
Yeah.
Well, not for mine.
No, actually I don't get paid for that at all. Okay. I'm giving, I'm donating my time. They're, they by paying you for your time. Yeah. Well, not for mine. No.
Actually, I don't get paid for that at all. Okay.
I'm donating my time.
They're supporting it.
They're paying for the range.
I understand.
For the vehicles, all the equipment that I need.
You know what I mean?
So you don't have an out-of-pocket.
Exactly.
So we don't have an out-of-pocket.
That's fucking awesome.
It's hard.
Listen, it's very hard because it's literally getting six or seven different sponsors to
put in a certain amount of money, tell them, hey, you know, I need this much money.
I need this much.
And then every sponsor, every company, as little as they want to say, they're like, what return am I getting out of it?
Right.
You know what I mean?
What am I getting out of this, you know?
And you're like, uh.
Oh, you know, you're training, you know, 25 police officers for three days, you know what I mean?
So I've been fortunate enough to get on that level where I can, you know what I mean?
I can push it hard enough to get it done.
You know what I mean?
And that's my way.
I try my best somehow to give back, you know, whether it is, you know, I don't care about my time.
It's three days.
It's great.
I'm with freaking cups all three days.
And you love it.
And I love it.
That's what I love to do, you know, so it doesn't bother me, but it's not easy.
It took me literally a year and a half to put that together.
Almost two years.
You know what I'm saying?
That's probably somewhat complicated,
even like law-wise and stuff.
Like you probably can, can, is it like,
you can work with any departments or?
Yeah, any department, they send the people over
as long as you're a certified police officer.
I don't care from where you are in the country.
You know, as long as you, you know,
cause I'm certified from FDLE.
So I'm a certified instructor for Florida Department of Law Enforcement. You know, as long as you, you know, because I'm certified from FDLE. So I'm a certified instructor
for Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
So as long as they come in,
whatever course that I give, you know, it's good to go.
It's, you know, anybody from anywhere in the country
can come and take the class, you know.
It depends on they want to fly it down or not.
I get a lot of South Florida, you know,
guys that always come down.
Well, mid Florida too.
So I have some guys.
How does fitness play into it?
With them, they're going to have to fight.
They're going to have to run.
They're going to have to do tons of stuff.
The class is a survival class.
It's, you know, so it's, I'm a firm believer
in trying to mimic reality at the end of the day.
So a lot of guys just teach shooting
or teach being proficient with a handgun,
but don't mimic the body's natural response
to an adrenaline situation.
So if you don't do that,
then you're taking 50% of the most important thing.
You know what I mean?
Your heart rate is not going to be at 80 beats per minute.
Someone just starts yelling and talking shit
and doing whatever at a restaurant,
your heart rate's going to go up.
They whip out a gun.
Now we're talking about a whole new thing.
Now we're talking about 190 beats per minute.
You know what I'm saying?
Now you got to take the gun out and you have to make a life change decision that could
take someone's life or take your own life.
The guy takes the gun out, you know?
So it's some of the objective to get them to exercise, do some crazy stuff, and then
they got to be able to-
To my law enforcement courses, I try not to do like burpees and any of that stuff.
I try to do like burpees and stuff i try to do
everything somehow it's going to be related to their job whether it's a foot chase whether it's
fighting with a guy whether it's you know it's something something or whatever it's going to be
relation you know i i try to do just like exercises like i would with civilians you know what i mean
just for no reason yeah just for no reason there's there's a there's a reason jumping over something
yeah correct you know i have them, you know,
like I've been in multiple footages. I did a lot of that as a kid.
What?
Jumping over stuff
and then like rolling over something
and then shooting stuff.
Doing the hondo roll.
100%.
And come back up and,
yeah, of course.
Get around the corner.
Yeah, I know.
I did the video not too long ago
where I hit the freaking can
and I had to fall down
and I was almost busting my ass
on video. I was like, oh my God. It's horrible. It didn't look so great. No, it didn had to fall down, almost busted my ass on video.
I was like, oh my God, it's horrible.
It didn't look so great.
No, it didn't look, yeah, it didn't look that great.
It looked like I was a freaking clumsy ox.
So, but yeah, it's a lot of different things.
It's gotta be hard to have a steady hand after you've done a bunch of stuff and-
Well, that's why it makes it so hard.
You know, after you're moving around and your heart rate gets up.
Correct.
Yeah.
When you're beat, you know, when you're at about a buck 75 beats per minute, everything changes, you know, tunnel vision takes into, you know,
audio, audio exclusion, you know, your ears, everything goes real small. Your hands start
trembling or everything, you know, so you have to show what's important about that is showing a
police officer, showing anybody that carries a gun for a living, that they're capable of being proficient still under those circumstances.
That creates confidence.
Having that confidence will avoid the bad shootings.
Why?
Because they'll get closer to the person.
They'll make sure or take that extra step
before they pull that trigger.
If they're confident in their abilities
in hand-to-hand or in fighting or whatever they
may be, because they've already been through it in training, then they're going to be a
lot less quicker to pull their gun out and shoot somebody just because they're in a fight
with the guy.
Yeah.
If I believe in myself that I can take care of business and I don't need to go overboard,
I can, I'm pretty sure I can handle it.
Right.
Exactly.
So you're, you're, you're that confidence, the training is what gives you that confidence that avoids the bad shoots,
that avoids all the issues that you're going to have, comes across with not training and
not having confidence.
Because obviously you get a guy that's, say, 6'5", 6'6", you've never gotten in a fight
before.
The guy comes up, he starts bowling up on you, he's got no guns on nothing.
The first thing that you're going to think of is like, oh my God, I can't handle this
guy.
This guy's going to kill me.
Let me shoot him.
But if you're a guy that takes your jiu jitsu,
you're a guy that takes fighting,
whatever it may be,
the last thing on your brain is going to be,
Oh,
I need a gun to handle this guy.
Yeah.
My,
maybe I'll get my ass beat.
All right,
that's fine.
But I'm going to hold my own for a minute and 30 seconds until my backup gets
there.
Right.
You know,
you're never going to think in your mind to take out a lethal option with a
guy that with no gun,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
With no, you know, i'm saying yeah with no
you know not able to kill you lethally you know whether it's a knife whether it's a bat whether
it's a gun whatever it is you know so that's why it's one point you know in the training aspect
and it's just what fitness is the same thing fitness is the same concept physical you get
into a fight with a guy and you're out of shape you're gonna last 15 20 seconds the guy's gonna
take get to get on top of you ground and pound you and then you're gonna have 15, 20 seconds. The guy's gonna get on top of you, ground and pound you, and then you're gonna have no choice
but to take out your gun.
Yeah, and who knows what these guys are on too, right?
Oh my God, you got guys that go on bath salts.
We had a guy on bath salts some years ago.
I mean, you hit those guys, I don't care.
Yeah, he ate a guy's face, you know, down in Miami.
Ate a guy's completely face off.
Cocaine psychosis.
You have tons of stuff.
Yeah, you have tons of stuff where,
you know you you
You the body
Takes ingest as these drugs and they become superhuman right take seven police officers to take them down
You know what I mean, and then they go crazy then they have what's called excited delirium, which is their core temperature raises
Really high they go crazy go crazy take off their off their clothes, go naked, all this stuff,
and then all of a sudden, boom, it goes, shuts down,
they die.
And they die in England.
Try fighting someone that's naked.
No, naked and covered in blood.
Two things that I've had to do in my career.
You're like.
Everybody's like, everybody's got a taser out,
everybody's like, oh, I don't wanna touch that guy.
And then he's HIV positive.
He's like, ah.
Literally, you lie, but it's true.
The guy will be in the middle, you have seven police officers around the guy, and everybody's like positive. You're just like, ah. Literally, you laugh, but it's true. The guy will be in the middle.
You have seven police officers around the guy and everybody's like, okay, what do we
do?
You know what I mean?
It's happening.
It's happening.
Get away from me with that thing.
Yeah, no.
You're covered in blood and then you don't know if the guy has AIDS.
You know, the guy's HIV positive and then you get exposed.
And then when you get exposed and you got to take what's called a cocktail, take like
seven or eight pills and you're going to be stomaching for seven days.
Vomiting.
It's,
it's horrible.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
I had to do that before.
I never even heard of that.
Oh yeah.
Just kills whatever.
Yeah.
Kills.
Uh,
you have 24 hours to,
to drink the pills.
I can't remember if it was,
it's one,
it's one set of pills or it's like one set of pills every,
every couple of days in a row. And then it's terrible. It's like the it's one set of pills or it's like one set of pills every, every couple of days in a row.
And then it's miserable though.
It's terrible.
It's like the worst thing ever.
You're like literally in bed and your stomach is turning the hole for 24 hours and you got to go to the bathroom and you throw up and you got it.
And you, oh, it's horrible.
It's horrible.
But I mean, that's better than freaking catching whatever, you know, whether it's hepatitis, whether it's AIDS or whatever.
That's crazy.
And that's what happens when they bite you, when somebody bites you and you get exposed like that or you know you let's
say you take a you take a guy down with blood and then you cut yourself or something you know and
let's say you're handcuffing the guy and you cut your hand he's got blood and now you got blood
and now you had a cross-contamination forget about it you gotta you gotta do it did you
sometimes feel as a police officer that like you weren't making a difference like did you ever feel
that way or did you feel that i feel like that every day because it's like there's just so much mayhem
going on all the time right yeah you i mean the stuff that i uh down in florida you see an armed
robbery guy i i got an armed robbery guy in custody one time i checked his background he was out on
probation for armed robbery you know what i mean so how do you get probation for armed robbery it's
a forcible felony.
And then they were like, oh, by the way, yeah, you're convicted, but you can go on the street.
You can go back on the street.
You know what I mean?
It's no problem.
You get that guy.
Let's say whatever victim, whatever victim he had that he robbed.
Let's say the victim doesn't speak English or they weren't wearing their glasses or they weren't whatever.
You go to court.
The guy gets a decent lawyer.
He's like, oh, but where were you wearing?
I had a case just like that.
We were in your glasses the day of the thing.
So how did you ID my sus,
my suspect?
Boom.
Case dismissed right on the spot.
Oh my God.
Just like that.
Yeah.
It's part of that just cause they don't have room for,
you know,
that many people.
I don't know.
It's just the legal system.
You know,
you have lawyers that are really good and they work the system really good.
And then a lot of the people are,
are either too scared to go, or they're just,
they don't know the laws or they don't know anything.
They're going to be honest and you can't expect anything else from
a victim to be honest, you know?
Yeah.
But in a technicality like that, you got a guy who robs seven, seven, 10 people,
three don't show up to don't hear next.
You know, the guy robbed 14 people and only, he only gets hit on two cases.
I guess two years for, for 15 armed robberies, you know?
And that's an everyday occurrence.
Miami, that's all the time.
And I'm sure in the country.
When you first started, were you kind of like, did you have maybe a misconception about what being a police officer was?
Were you like, I'm going to go out there.
I'm going to catch the bad guy.
He's going to go to jail.
And then the next day I'm'm gonna get the next bad guy and if i rally up enough like my
town's gonna be cleaner or something you kind of like almost think that way a little bit like
you're so fired up about it excited as a rookie cop you know you you get on the road and you think
you can make a difference you know what i'm saying um you know which is good because you need the
energy right yeah but when you you go into energy, right? Yeah, that's it.
But when you go into that sector, to that zone,
that it's like, you're about to go in service,
and then you look at the computer
and you got 15 calls holding.
And then you go,
you handle your first accident,
and then they clear you from that accident,
and they go, hey, by the way, beep,
here's another accident.
And now you haven't even finished a report on that one.
And then you're in the middle of that one,
and beep, oh, you got a domestic now,
and an agri battery.
So you're backed up on three calls now.
And now at the end of the day, you have to finish all those reports.
So you have to stay an extra two hours on your shift to finish the reports.
Yeah, no.
And you're super tired and rolling in the next day.
And you're rolling in the next day and the same thing all over again.
On patrol.
That's how it is.
Where it's just a constant battle.
I remember there's a of like Magic Johnson.
He had like a game-winning shot, and he was a rookie,
and he made a big, you know, the team made a big deal,
and he was like crying.
He was all emotional.
He was in the locker room, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar came over to him,
like pat him on the shoulder.
He's like, that's one game, kid.
Like, just relax.
Like, there's going to be like 100 of these.
I know, I know.
Going to give in here.
We got to play tomorrow night.
Yeah, by the way, yeah, we have another game tomorrow.
Just wipe it off.
Yeah, get your.
Nobody cares what you did yesterday.
Right.
It's about what you're doing today.
And that's life.
Life is like that.
The last time you were on the podcast, you made a prediction, which was something that you didn't want to do.
But you told us flat out, you said there's going to be more of these shootings yes you know you're like i i can hate saying this but
there's going to be more yeah the problem is not going to go away unless there's and i think since
we've talked about three or four yeah there's been a bunch yeah it slowed down a little bit
a little bit there and then now recently we had the shooting in the school down in south florida it's like 14
people 17 dead and like another i think it was another 10 or 15 that were hurt oh my god
you can't i mean that's just that's so devastating no it is so i mean to an area you know what i
mean then you see the videos and everybody you know you see the kids on the ground and and it's
it's really bad i mean and we'll go into this. Well, I'll give my opinion on the fact because the biggest thing is like, how do we stop that?
Yeah.
You're never going to be able to train the kids, man.
No.
Yeah.
You're never going to be able to stop someone willing to take their own life for someone else's.
You can't stop that.
So if somebody is willing to sacrifice their life for someone else's impossible to stop.
You can't stop crazy.
Yeah.
That's what they say.
Someone's crazy.
Someone's crazy.
He's going to figure out a way.
Going to hurt somebody.
Yeah.
People think that banning guns or taking away the guns from everybody and all this stuff is going to solve that.
It's not.
And we talked about this the other day.
So, okay.
So you ban all the guns and now just wait till three 30 in the afternoon, four o'clock when all the kids are walking out, getting into a bus, ride a bus through 30, 40 kids, and now you have 40 more deaths.
It's happened before.
Yeah, it's happened before.
Bombs, you're never going to be able to take away bombs.
You can make bombs from anything.
You know what I mean?
You can go to the grocery store and get all the chemicals you need for a bomb.
So guns, taking away guns is not going to do it.
What you need is a security.
Put a cop in every single school.
way a gun is not going to do it what you need is a security put a cop in every single school make the budget for that cop for that police officer to be there when the school opens to
school ends it's already been statistically proven that the people that do all these the
the mass killings the mass shootings they don't want any confrontation they don't want any conflict
most of the time two things happen one they take their own life, or two, they take off running.
Very rarely will you ever see someone as an active shooter where they'll take hostages, and then it goes back and forth, you know?
So you either put a police officer in every school or at least armed security guards. Now, when I say armed security guards, I don't mean just like a regular G license, you know, security guard that you're paying, you know, $7 or $8 an hour, you know?
You know, security guard that you're paying, you know, seven or $8 an hour. You know, I'm talking about someone who's certified in reaction to active shooters.
Someone who has a training, someone who has, you know what I mean?
That you're, you're going to have to probably end up paying a little bit more
money, but you're going to feel more secure.
You have two of those guys put a radio in every single one of those teachers' hands
and everybody's everybody's, you know, eyes open all the time, you know, and, and
head on a swivel, whatever it may be.
And just, you know, once that radio goes off.
Yeah.
They're talking about the reaction time is, is, uh, not the reaction time really, but
just the time that it takes for somebody to get there.
Yeah.
But a lot of people don't realize that.
We were talking about that.
The, the 9-11 call.
You call 9-11 from your cell phone.
It goes directly to the County from the County.
Then it goes to your city.
So it's a delay.
There's a, probably about a two, two and a half
minute delay.
That's just to get the police.
Time is precious.
Yeah.
Every single second is precious, you know?
So you have a police officer there, he's got a
radio in his hand.
Soon as he calls for that, got shots fired or
whatever it may be, you're going to have
cops here within 20 to 30 seconds.
They're all going to be running, you know,
emergency code to that school. And and they've already been the training has already been established
that there is no you know uh set a perimeter hold if i if i'm if i'm a teacher and i call
and i'm hysterical you can't understand what i'm saying oh my you don't know what kind of call it
is you don't know what you don't know what i'm i might even just be fucking around i'm sure they
get calls all day they're messing around it's just They're messing around. It's just, you're going to get, on 9-11, I guarantee you, if you go back and you do all the background on all those calls that I'm sure they got, they got tons of them.
Every call is going to be a little different.
No, because the guy was wearing a black shirt.
No, because the guy was wearing a green shirt.
No, because the kid is 5'6".
No, because he's 5'7".
You have a police officer who's trained in that.
And he's trained in giving proper bolos or bolos that be on the lookout um he's going to give a proper description of that guy he's going
to give exactly the type of firearm that he has which way he's going you know yeah everything and
so you're going to have and it's and it's live we're talking about live from that radio to every
police officer that's coming boom it's right there it's right there it's a huge difference and now
we're talking about anybody that's going to do that, going to a school.
Let's just say there is a police officer in every single school.
Every single person that's going to do that has to already understand, I got to go through that cop first.
And I got to beat that radio.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to go through you.
That's for sure.
I'd see you out there.
I'd be like, I don't know, man.
But you're going to think twice about it.
Yeah, absolutely.
You're going to think twice about it because now it's not anymore just kids anymore.
Now I have an armed person who's trained, who's a police officer and has a radio in
his hand.
And you have to get into a fight.
And you have to get into a fight.
You have to get into a gunfight because you're bringing a gun, you know?
So it's going to be nasty.
You know what I mean?
So, I mean, that's what I would say would probably be the best scenario, solution would
be a budget for a police officer.
Some people mentioned teachers.
Some people mentioned arming the teachers or they were thinking of some things like that.
Is there, do you think that's any sort of-
I would tell you like this.
If the thing about the teachers is that the teachers don't have the proper training to be able to assess situations like that.
Yeah, you might have a teacher that he's a CCW holder and then he's been shooting his whole life.
One out of hundreds where let's say they have a gun.
And then not only that, but you have to be confident in your abilities to take out a gun and take somebody's life.
It's not that easy as people think it is,
especially if you've never done it before.
So, I mean, I don't think that's the answer.
Could the teachers get more training?
Absolutely.
And it could potentially help.
And yeah, and that's going to always help.
You know, there should be some form of standard
operating procedures and an active shooter.
Let's say you have a cop in every school,
what happens, where they go, escape routes, all these different things. some form of standard operating procedures and an active shooter. Let's say you have a cop in every school,
what happens, where they go, escape routes,
all these different things. I guess it's a good thing for people to talk about, right?
Like you prepare for a fire.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And they used to prepare for other stuff too.
Remember growing up, how many of those drills
that we have under the desk, all that stuff.
Now, now they have to do for active shooters.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Because it's just happening,
it's just happening too much.
It could save a lot of people, you know, maybe
just, maybe even just having a procedure, maybe
that would just help.
Yeah.
Not going to solve anything.
Yeah.
Procedures, what, what helps with the procedures
or with the training is that now it becomes a
protocol.
So it becomes muscle memory.
So if you do it enough times, you're just
naturally, even though you're scared, even though you're,
you're just naturally going through the movement that you always go through on a
regular basis.
You know what I mean?
And you're not going to have to think about it.
So the kids do it all the time and the teachers do it all the time.
When the thing happens,
whatever's happening,
people are going to just do it because they do it so much when you don't have
anything in place.
It's just chaos.
Everybody's running everywhere.
Teachers are,
you know what I mean?
So it becomes a different animal. Now it's just, you know, there's no chaos. Everybody's running everywhere. Teachers are, you know what I mean?
So it becomes a different animal.
Now it's just, you know, there's no organization. It's tough too, because, you know, if, you know, if, if, if I, you know, in my, in my
town, I live in Davis.
And if I was like, Hey, everybody, I'm bringing my former military SWAT buddy, Tony Semonet
to come and he's going to protect the school.
They'd be like, who's this crazy motherfucker hanging around my kids yeah you know cuz you're
big and you have the Marine Corps background and they'll be like well does
he have PTSD or like you know I mean people are gonna get all crazy about
who's hanging around their kids but you know what it is that's the way that you
solve that problem is you have the police officer meet all the kids, talk to all the kids, become a part of that community.
When you have a PTA, the police officer will be there with the parents.
Talk to the parents on a one-on-one basis.
Create that bond between the police officer and the parents and have that with their kids.
In the beginning, yeah, it may be a little bit scary,
but once they get to meet the person and they understand who he is and what he's there for, everything, you're going to feel more secure.
Because now you know, oh, man, at least there's a police officer in my school every single day.
You know what I mean?
And that guy's there for one purpose, to protect my kids.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And he's going to be willing to give his life for that, which is the most important thing.
Yeah, I mean, that makes a lot of sense.
Do you think training alone can really help?
Or do you think people need to have experience?
Is that why you're suggesting for it to be kind of police officers?
The reason I say police officers is because they get training on active shooter and all these different things.
And obviously the radio factor is huge.
Yeah.
Having a radio to law enforcement, to that surrounding jurisdiction of police officers, that
is really what's going to make the true difference
because, uh, there's a huge difference in police
officers getting there within 30 seconds.
Yeah.
And getting there within five minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
So that, that's one of the biggest things for me.
Like they always, we always had a joke.
It was like, you might be able to beat the police
officer, but you can never beat the radio.
I will get into foot chases all the time as a cop.
And if you were good in setting a perimeter.
Or that dog.
They get that dog out and you're not allowed to run.
Yeah, you're not allowed to run that far.
Get the dog, you're out of gas.
But you get a cop who's experienced in setting perimeters in the foot chase.
And you get a guy with a warrant or whatever and he takes off running on you.
As soon as you take off running, you give the description of the guy and then you give points.
You give your four a box.
You set a box. So all the cops that are coming, they're coming directly to that box give the description of the guy, and then you give points. You give your four a box. You set a box.
So all the cops that are coming, they're coming directly to that box.
You can close the guy in a box.
Once you lose sight of them, now the canine comes.
They'll get two or three canine dogs, and they search for the guy.
There's no way out of there.
If you know what you're doing, you can't beat that radio.
You'll never beat it.
Just like guys who flee on motorcycles or guys on the highways that are fleeing the cars.
Once that halo gets on top of you, the helicopter, or once, you know,
they got the radio, hey, the guy, there's going to be people waiting for you with stop signals.
There's going to be people waiting for you over there.
You can't beat the radio, man.
You can't.
You know, it's only a matter of time.
If somebody was to do something crazy in a public setting, in a mall or something like that,
do you have something in your head sort of planned out,
or would it just be reactionary based on training
and based on you know uh if there's one guy two guys and so on it's every situation dictates and
where you go dictates the key there is to be situationally aware um you know when i'm home
or when i'm in miami i always um i always have a firearm on me um that's number one you sent me a
a picture from or a video from the
airport I think and you're like I'm on the lookout
and you're just looking back and forth
and it was boomerang and I was like that shit's scary
but you kind of, do you live your life
a little bit that way? I live my life like that man
unfortunately it's
some people think it's paranoia and it's not
that it's just
it's the job
you do the job for so many years,
it becomes part of you.
You go into a restaurant,
you always wanna be watching the door.
You always wanna know where the exits are.
It's just simple stuff like that,
that can really make a difference.
And who knows?
And who knows?
And if you really make it part of your life,
like if you understand that it's simple little things
like that that are gonna make the difference
and you aren't always on your phone or,
you know what I'm saying?
Just,
you know,
living in La La Land,
you're,
you're,
you're gonna,
uh,
when something does happen,
it may never happen your whole entire life.
Yeah.
But that one day that it does,
you're going to think that what you did saved your life or your family's lives.
You know,
that's why for me,
it's just normal.
Like it's an everyday thing for me.
Cause I just been that way so many years.
But for someone who's starting to do it now, those little, little things of, uh, when you're
walking out to your car at nighttime and you're by yourself, let's say you're a female or
whatever, you know, don't be down looking at the phone.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause next thing you know, you're, you're trying to open your door and you got a gun
to the back of your head.
You never even saw a guy coming around where he came and he just got robbed.
You know what I mean?
Maybe if you would have been paying attention and you saw that the two guys sitting in the
car in front of you and you looked at them and they looked at you and then you were paying
attention to what you were doing and pay attention to what they were doing, they wouldn't have
came up on you like that, you know?
They don't want any struggle.
They don't want anything to be slow.
They want to be fast, right?
Exactly.
They want everything to be easy.
They always pick, and I call them predators, you know, because they're human predators
is what they do.
They prey on the weak.
They prey on the older people.
They prey on the females that they know
that they're not going to.
How many, very rarely do you ever see a guy rob
a 240 pound six foot four guy?
You know what I'm saying?
That doesn't happen.
And maybe, listen, that guy maybe
has never been in a fight in his entire life.
And maybe he doesn't know how to fight.
Well, a lot of times you watch some of the stuff
from the surveillance cameras and stuff.
Whenever somebody does have any resistance,
sometimes they knock the bad dude out in a
second flat because the guy wasn't even thinking that anybody was going to do anything.
Yeah.
I saw a video not too long ago today.
A guy is robbing a liquor store.
A Marine guy gets behind him and he pulls a gun on that Marine guy, puts him in a lock,
boom, throws him up in the air, bow, hits him on the ground, takes his gun away.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
No training.
No training.
They get focused on what they're doing.
Just a punk.
Yeah. And that's what it is. But get focused on what they're doing. Just a punk. Yeah.
And that's what it is.
But it's a guy with a gun.
Right.
And that's what makes it because most of those people don't even know how to deal with guns.
So they're pointing the gun at you with their finger on the trigger.
And all it takes for them is to get scared or something.
Boom.
Gun goes off.
You just got shot.
And now you're in a fight for your life.
Hopefully he didn't shoot you in a major organ or something like that.
It's a done deal.
And most of those people that are crack monsters and they have addictions, they don't want to kill you.
Right.
They don't.
But that addiction needs to be fed.
So if they have to, they will, but they don't want to.
Because they know they're going to go to jail for murder one instead of just a strong arm robbery or an arm robbery, which they can probably do a couple of years in prison for.
armed robbery or an armed robbery, which they can probably do a couple of years in prison for, you know?
So you told me yesterday, it was crazy when you were talking about people just stealing
and how they basically, they had this kind of, I guess, almost like organized crime ring,
you know, where they would just watch people's movements in different areas.
Oh, 100%.
And they had a GPS set up.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
These crews- It set up. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, these crews.
That was wild.
Yeah, it's, that's how they make their money, you know, and people don't realize that that's
their job.
Our job is to do what we do, and their job is to steal from whatever they can from you,
you know, like that crew we talked about, they dedicated themselves to stealing purses
from women, you know, during either when they took kids to the babysitters, not babysitters,
I'm sorry, to the daycare.
Daycare.
To the daycare or during like the gas stations during the daytime.
Drop off, pick up.
Drop off.
You know, you get out of the car in the gas station, leave your purse in, they open the
door, boom, they grab it.
You drop off your kid, they open the door and they grab your purse while you're dropping
off your kid.
You know what I mean?
So it was three or four cars every single day 16 person gas station thing is is funny to me
because well funny but it's it's it's just like I while I'm pumping my gas I'm not gonna lock my car
oh of course not so it's perfect opportunity oh I never even I until you brought it up yesterday
I was like I would never I'm just gonna sit there and pump my gas but I ain't paying attention yeah
always on my phone or dicking around or whatever. Yeah. I mean, as a guy,
we have our,
while it's always here.
Yeah.
But the females,
when they have their purse,
purse is always next,
next to the thing.
A lot of times.
Yeah.
So the guys,
they'll,
you'll see them
and you'll see them
on the surveillance cameras.
They'll circle.
They see the girl come in.
Boom.
They go,
okay.
So they'll circle once,
twice.
As soon as she gets out of the car,
they come around.
It gets really low,
opens the door,
grabs the purse,
close the door
and gets back in his car.
She won't even notice
that the purse has gone until maybe five minutes after she's, you know what I'm saying? and gets back in his car. She won't even notice that the purse is gone
until maybe five minutes after she's,
you know what I'm saying?
She gets back in the car and she looks at her purse,
like what happened?
It's just gone.
You never saw it.
And then when you look at the surveillance camera,
you see the guy come in and took the purse, you know?
Same thing with the kids in the morning, the daycares,
you know, you get back into your car,
you don't even realize that you're in your own world.
You're also, when you're, you know, your guard is,
when you're a parent, a lot of times your focus
is just on your kid.
Oh, 100%.
So you get your kid and then you bring him into the daycare or whatever.
And that's all you're thinking.
You're not thinking about anything about the car.
You might even leave the fucking car on.
Who knows?
Yeah, for sure.
Just because you ain't thinking about shit.
You're just like, I need to take my kid over here.
And you take him there and next thing you know, your shit's gone.
You know what had a case?
Lady gets out of the car, leaves the kid in the backseat, little baby, gets out of the
car to an ATM.
20 seconds later, the guy's walking, sees the car still on, see the car open.
He doesn't see the kid.
Jumps in the car, takes the car.
Holy fuck.
Took the car with the kid in it.
He probably ditched that car quickly.
Oh, yeah, he sure did.
He ended up leaving it.
He ended up leaving it at the Metro Rail and then he ended up calling.
He said,
hey,
the car is at such and such place
or whatever
and he hung up
and he left it there
with the kid.
Kidnapping is.
Yeah,
straight up,
right?
That's what it is.
You know,
I went from Grand Theft Auto
to kidnapping real quick,
you know?
So,
you know,
but it's not even that.
It's a,
what if the guy,
that guy was good,
like he's a good,
what if the guy,
he doesn't care?
You know what I'm saying you know
just from that simple
little
leave the car
for 10 seconds
and it's a crime
because that was
literally a crime
of opportunity
the guy in his head
said
well I need to get
to such and such place
you know
let me just see
if I can jump in a car
and then he just waits
and the person
boom jumps in the car
and he takes off
and that's it
doesn't see the kid
obviously he's tense you know in the car but another takes off. And that's it. Doesn't see the kid. Obviously it was tense, you know, in the car.
But another guy that doesn't care, gets the kid, leaves him stranded and the kid ends up dying.
Jumps the car somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
Doesn't call nobody, says nothing.
The kid doesn't need for whatever.
Everybody's looking for the car.
Nobody finds it.
And that's it.
The kid, you know, and there's that.
There's shit.
Your kid's done.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Little things like that, you know.
What are some other things people can do
just I mean
you kind of mentioned
just paying attention
but like just
street smarts
what are some things
that you kind of like
just notice
you're like man
that's a big mistake
the biggest thing
that I see nowadays
and I think we're all
guilty of it
at some point or another
is the phone
everybody's always
on the phone
with their head
dug into the phone
all the time we're watching
your fucking videos man we're watching you jump over hurdles and shit and throw tires over your
head it's one of those things where uh if you're going somewhere and you're by yourself especially
you know as a you don't have a firearm on you or whatever and it's nighttime
you know be smart you know what i'm saying you're leaving the mall or you're leaving whatever and you're literally like the best opportunity for some kind
of for some crime guy you know what i'm saying is be smart look around look at the cars around you
if people are more aware believe it or not the presence of you being aware will deter probably
80 of the crimes that happen to people. It's the people.
And listen, these guys follow you.
We have cases, case after case after case.
Well, they'll see the guy.
They go to the ATM.
They take out the money.
Odds are we've all been followed by someone at some point.
At one point or another.
At one point or another, yes.
They looked us up and down at least.
Yes.
Right?
And then said no, but yes.
And that's another thing.
When you're driving, if you turn, if you make two, you used to have somebody you think is following you.
Oh, man, that car, I've seen that car already
a couple of times in my rear view mirror.
Make two right turns, two right turns.
If you make two right turns
and that car makes two right turns, he's following you.
Nobody's going to make two right turns
because you make a right turn, you make a right turn,
you're going back the same way that you just came.
Who's going to do that?
You know what I'm saying?
So it's simple little things like that,
but people all the time, they're always listening to you.
Yeah, they're not paying attention to what's going on around them.
And those people, you go to an ATM, you go to somewhere where you know you took out cash.
You went to the bank.
Bank is one of the biggest ones.
Anybody that walks out of the bank, they'll have a guy inside the bank, and then he's filling out stuff, and he's watching people.
If he sees some guy come with a big stack of cash,
boom, puts it in an envelope, and he walks out,
he gets on the phone, he's going to walk out right after you,
maybe five minutes after you.
He's already telling his guy,
hey, such and such person coming out, whatever, whatever,
big money, bam.
He gets in his car, the other guy gets in the other car,
and they're going to follow you home.
As soon as you pull into your house, boom,
they're going to come out, both of them have guns,
they rob you and they take your money right there.
You know what I'm saying?
Or if not, what they do before, during Christmas gonna come out, both of them had guns. Ah, they rob you and they take your money right there. You know what I'm saying? Or if not, what they do before,
during Christmas time in Miami,
people always, what they do,
you go to three different stores, right?
So you go to Best Buy first, then you go to Marshalls,
then you go to here and you go to there.
All this stuff you bought on Best Buy,
your $700 worth of Christmas gifts,
when you get to Marshalls,
by the time you come back to your car in Marshalls,
it's all gone.
They have a guy inside the Best Buy,
they have a guy in a car.
The guy comes out.
He's, hey, this guy's got, you know, whatever.
He's got PS3, this and that.
They wait.
They wait till you go to wherever you're going.
Marshall's there.
They go.
They break into your car.
They take all your stuff.
Boom.
They follow you.
And they do it year round.
Year round.
That's all they do.
That's insane.
And they make an extra 10, 15 grand for the weekend
or for the whatever.
You know,
and these crews,
they dedicate themselves
to just doing that.
You know,
and then we ended up
having to get into
undercover cars,
sitting hours on end
at the Best Buys
waiting for them.
Oh, there it is.
There's the guy.
That's the description
of the car.
That's the,
and we got to wait
for them to hit.
Then we got to,
when they hit,
then you take them down,
you know,
but sometimes it takes weeks. Do you still run into people that you arrested?
You I haven't ran into one and be honest with you something that's kind of weird
Yeah, you know be honest with you
I could have a guy that I arrested right in front of me right now and I wouldn't even know his face
He worked for so long. It's so many people years. Yeah, you know
So it gets to a point where everybody's face looks the same
It's got to be like a really case and. Yeah. You know, so it gets to a point where everybody's face looks the same.
It's got to be like a really case.
And even the big cases that I had.
Why is that guy looking at me like that? Yeah.
And you know, now it's different for me now because now people are looking at me.
Is it because they know me from social media?
Is it, you know, is it bad or is it good?
You know, and then they come up to you and you have to be nice.
I'm not going to be like, you don't get away from me.
Whatever it is, a guy I arrested, you know?
So it's, you're like, it's a double edged sword, you know?
But I haven't had anybody, honestly, I've never had,
I can always say, listen, knock on wood,
anybody that I've arrested or anybody that I got,
whatever I had to do for, deserved it.
You know what I mean?
I'm clean in my heart and in my brain that, you know,
I never unjustly-
This is all you can ask for.
Yeah, yeah, I never unjustly, I tried my best never to unjustly, you know, I never unjustly. That's all you can ask for. Yeah, yeah.
I never unjustly.
I tried my best never to unjustly.
You've done a lot of MMA training too.
Yes, yeah.
Did you ever fight?
In regards?
No, no, never did.
I used to train back in the early 2000s.
Boxing, any matches or anything like that?
No, man.
Sparring?
I was going to go pro in the early 2000s.
I used to train at a Noguera's camp down in Miami
when he had a camp before he went back to train at Noguera's camp down in Miami
when he had a camp before he went back to Brazil.
Yeah, and I was gonna go pro there,
but this is the thing.
I'm working 80 hours a week as a cop.
I would go from work to the MMA,
spend two or three hours there, get beat up,
and then go to work to get beat up again, you know?
And after doing it for about four or five months, um, you know, I had to make a choice.
I had to say, okay, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to go pro, you know, I'm either
going to have to take some time off of work to dedicate, you know, a full, you know, put
my a hundred percent into this, or I'm just going to have to just make it a hobby.
You know?
Um, at that time I had a lot of bills.
I had to pay my bills. You know what I'm saying? You had to go to work. I had to go to work. Got to just make it a hobby. You know, um, at that time I had a lot of bills. I had to pay my bills.
You know what I'm saying?
You had to go to work.
I had to go to work.
Gotta be an adult.
Yeah.
You know.
Can't play MMA.
And that's, that's, that's the problem.
And then, you know, how many pro MMA fighters, you know, have 15 fights, 20 fights and they're
living in an efficiency and it's for them to a car.
You can't live like that.
I can't.
They don't make no money.
You know, there's the, people have that misconception.
Oh, because you could be going to UFC.
You're going to make a big money.
No,
it doesn't work that way.
No,
there's like just a couple of guys at the top.
Exactly.
That are making real money.
Everybody else is scrounging for a fight to make 30,
40 grand for the year.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And,
and those guys train seven days a week,
you know what I'm saying?
And they're barely making it.
They're doing one or two,
they have a,
a contract for one or two fights a year.
They win, they win, they make 30, 40 grand or whatever. If they get the fight of the or, they have a contract for one or two fights that year. They win,
they win,
they make 30,
40 grand or whatever.
If they get the fight
of the bonus,
they make another 10 grand
but still,
what is that,
70 grand?
80 grand?
And they're UFC guys.
There's a lot of people
watching you.
There's a lot of people
watching your Instagram,
a lot of people
following along
with what you're doing.
Now there's people
being really inspired
and moved by what you're doing. I think that's's really cool i think you're in a really cool spot
and uh how does that feel for you like what is is it uh kind of surprising you're kind of just like
oh i'm just jumping over stuff and people are excited about it i honestly i don't really think
about that mark um i've always just put my content out there and let it speak for itself and just work
and keep your head down
grind
I love
now you know
when I retired in 2016
that I said
oh I'm gonna do this full time
whatever
it was probably one of the best choices
I've ever made in my life
one of the scariest
by the way
because when you get
I've been working since I was 14
first job was at Winn-Dixie
it was like a public
so like a grocery store
as a bagger
you have a steady paycheck coming in it's a certain amount for my whole life yeah you know whether you're sick whether
you're this you got a paycheck so when i went on my own it was scary because i was leaving tons of
benefits my retirement leaving a lot of stuff you know leaving early and um at first i was like you
know you get the first week you're not going to work. And, you know, it was either work or it was like, you know, something was off.
So, you know, you feel weird.
So, now you have to get on the grind, hustle.
You're like, what the hell do I do with myself?
What do you do with yourself?
And it gets to that point.
And now it's like if you don't do nothing, you don't make no money.
Right.
So, you have to hustle for that money.
You have to grind.
You have to do whatever it is that it takes.
So, it was tough in the beginning just to get
adapting to that.
But I think it's like everything else in the
world.
It's like once you find the system or find the
program for you that works good, you know, you
run with it and so far so good, you know, I can't
complain.
I think people admire, you know, you're, it's,
it's not only you doing like explosive movements,
but you're also moving some weight.
Yeah.
You know, I think I've seen you squat 500 for
like 10 reps.
Yeah.
Well, on video I've got 500 for seven, but I've done, off video, I've done 10.
That's like, that's not, you know, that's not, that's not like, you know, somebody squatting
225 in between, you know, jumping over a bench or whatever.
That's, that's a lot, that's a lot of weight.
Yeah.
And so I think when people are watching you, that's what they're admiring.
And then you're not only, and I haven't really seen people do this before,
but you're flipping tires.
And then I've seen people jump in and out of them,
but then you're picking them up.
Flipping over my head.
And you're throwing them over your head.
That was, you know, it was funny
because I started that, I think it was,
I don't even know when it was the first video.
I think you invented it.
Yeah, I want to take that, you know, that.
I'll give it to you.
Yeah, you know.
I'll say it here on the podcast. One day I was flipping, you know, that. I'll give it to you. Yeah, you know.
I'll say it here on the podcast.
One day I was flipping the tires regularly, regularly, and then.
Just got so mad.
Yeah, you know what?
I was like, you know what?
Let me, I'll see how it affects my body is what I wanted to see in regards to flipping it over my head, you know, because you do the medicine ball over the shoulder.
So it's a similar, similar exercise.
I'm excited for you to teach it to Smokey.
Yeah, it's going to be good. Smokey to try that. You can do it, Smokey.
If he jumps in the tire, he might get stuck.
I'll tell you, the first time that I did it,
it ended up coming back at me.
It hit me square on my head.
I got it on video. It's great. It comes right back down.
Boom, hits me in the back of the head. I was like, yeah.
I might not try that again.
That was the first time I did it. I was like, I don't know if I'm going to try that again.
How are you recovering from these workouts?
I mean, it looks like you're going at it hard, you know?
Yeah.
Plus you're trying to power lift now.
The recovery effect, yeah, it's tough, man.
It's very hard, especially when you do a strength conditioning day where it's explosive and you're just putting a lot of, how can I say, a lot of brunt on your lower back.
And then you've got to do a power lifting day after.
It's really tough. I just listen to my body and if I feel like I'm really sore then I go into a
hyper uh hypotrophy I'm sorry I go into a bodybuilding day I caught isolation work so
it's it's like a shoulder day or a bicep tricep day or whatever um so I shut up so then I um I do
that for the day or day or two, and then I go back to either
strength or explosive work, you know what I mean?
Whatever it is at our age, at my age, I'm almost 40.
So I'm 38.
Um, it's not the same when you were in your twenties, your twenties, you recover like
this the day after you're here.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Now you got to listen, man.
Cause, uh, I know you've seen the most of the recent video.
I tore partial, my, you know, my bicep.
I've torn my hammy.
I'm doing all these things that I do thinking that in your brain, you're still 25 years old.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't warm up properly.
You don't do the proper therapy that you should do.
You don't do the stuff that you need to do to recover the right way.
The athlete mindset, it makes us and breaks us.
You know, I've had a coach in in the past tell me uh james smith
he said you know uh going by how you feel is going to at some point be ineffective because
you're going to lie to yourself yeah you're going to always tell yourself that you feel good you
get in the middle of workout and sure enough you're gonna be loading those fucking weights
on just like you've done in the past and we might think i'll just go to four plates instead of five
plates and that's not really. Yeah,
that's not really a deal.
It's not really what your body truly needs. 400 pounds or five.
Well,
you know.
If you were like,
you know what,
I'm going to skip the gym today
and I'm going to go to yoga,
maybe that would be like
enough of a rapid change
to where,
right?
Yeah,
something or cycling.
We ain't going to do that.
You know,
cycling.
Hit a spinning class.
A spinning class.
We'd probably get our asses
kicked in the spinning class
I've never tried it
I don't
I'm not that crazy
I'm crazy when it comes
to my stuff
but there's certain realms
I don't dive into
you know
was there anything
that you tried
that you were just like
that was a fucking
bad idea
I ain't doing that again
I see you doing
a sledgehammer
and I see you doing
all these different things
yeah
you know what it is
for me
I have to be moving.
I have to be, I'm an intense individual by nature.
So I like things to be intense for me to enjoy it.
Anything that has to do with like meditating, sitting down, relaxing, like yoga.
I won't even try that.
Is that tough for you in general?
Like in life, is that hard for you to be patient sometimes?
Patient, no, but still, yes. Yeah. is that hard for you to be patient sometimes uh patient no but still yes
yeah it's hard for me uh like even as a law enforcement officer i remember when something
happens whatever and they put me in the box or they put you in like the control room or something
i wanted to freaking blow my brains out you know what i'm saying stuck in that control room and
four walls i was like i didn't even know what to do i was was like, I can't be here. I have to get out.
You don't have to go get into a car, do something with myself.
I couldn't.
I couldn't.
And I've been like that most of my life.
Like I've had to move some things, you know?
So it's hard when I see.
Being on a plane or something.
Bro, you just want to get up and move around.
No, and it kills your lower back.
It destroys my lower back.
Every single time I come from the East Coast to West Coast, my lower back's fried for two or three days, you know?
But you still got to put in work.
It doesn't really matter, you know?
You got to do what you got to do, you know?
So you're going to start doing powerlifting, or you already have started doing powerlifting,
and you want to do a powerlifting meet, right?
Not yet.
Not yet.
We'll see.
Maybe someday.
Maybe someday.
Maybe someday.
Well, my good friend, Jesse Burdick, runs an excellent powerlifting meet in November,
and that would give you plenty of time to prep for it.
My boy, Filipino Thunder over here was working with you on some of your deadlifts yesterday.
Yes, he was.
And we think you should do it.
I would be nice.
Maybe I'm thinking about it.
It might be something that might come across.
I think you'd have to cut back and tweak some of the other stuff you're doing.
And no one ever wants to hear that.
No one ever believes that.
No, absolutely.
But then when you get in the middle of it.
It's, listen, if you're going to do something do something if you're gonna do a meet or you're
gonna compete you have to dedicate you know to whatever you're doing and you have to understand
that yeah yeah you have to and i in the day i mean powerlifting for me and i consider myself
like a part-time powerlifter it's like i'm not a full-time powerlifter since i do all the other
stuff um if i can just go out there and just represent and, you know, put some decent numbers on the board,
I'll be happy with that.
That's what I want, you know.
I don't expect to ever be as strong as some of,
you know, these power lifters.
I've been doing it for 10 years.
I never expect that.
But if I represent and I put up decent numbers,
hey, I proved my point.
Hey, listen, I could do,
I've done the power lifting stuff.
Right.
Done what you do, you know,
and I still maintain all the other stuff that I do, you know. So that's what I would like to do, you know, and I still maintain what all the other stuff that I do
You know, so that's what I'm that's what I would like to do, you know when it comes
So you've been successful in the Marines you've been successful as a police officer and you're successful in the fitness industry
You may not view it that way because you're the kind of guy who's just gonna keep his head down and just keep working
If you had to just sum it all up
How is some of it happened? How have you been able to get to the place you're in now?
Don't stop.
Just keep working.
Just keep fucking moving.
Yeah.
When things are going to get hard and there's going to be times where you're going to hit a wall and you're going to be like, wow.
It's like, what do I do now?
That didn't work out for me or whatever the deal may be.
You got to just get back on the horse.
You know, you get knocked down, you get back on the horse and you keep moving, you know.
And my goal as a business, as a brand, as whatever, however you want to slice or dice it or anybody in just general, if you're getting a little bit better, and I always say this all the time, if you're getting a little bit better every year, your company grew a little bit.
I don't care if it's 10%, but it grew and it got
a little bit better just because you worked a
little bit harder.
That's the goal.
If you're getting a little bit better every
year, you're doing something different every
year, you know, you're, you're, you're pushing
forward, you're pushing forward.
You know, you never want to go backwards,
obviously, you know, you want to get either
bigger or you push forward.
And there's no reason why with hard work and,
and, you know, people that you, that you, um,
that you have around you that support you and help you,
there's no reason why you can't, you know?
That's always important,
cutting out all the shitty people.
Oh, that's, yeah, that's tough.
I mean, because you're always going to have
people that are friends in front of you
and then when you turn around,
they're not your friends.
Oh, I do that all the time, do you?
Yeah, I know.
Stab right in the back.
Actually, I'd be concerned
trying to stab you in the back.
I'd probably do some move and I'd end up on my back with a fucking and i ended up on my back with a broken arm everybody you know it's so funny
because everybody always says uh they paint this picture of us i'm so aggressive you're so aggressive
i'm not aggressive bro i'm not the last thing i haven't seen you be aggressive no i uh you know
ed cone is someone who's aggressive he beats the shit out of every single one of us in here
has he ever tried any of that he probably never tried that shit no he hasn't tried it he's smart yeah but i've seen him
i've seen him do some of the stuff that he does he trains and some of it yeah he loves he loves
doing that he's just he's excited about it yeah yeah so he wants to show people hey i learned i
learned this let me break your arm in the process yeah he fucks you up every time you're like dude
that really hurt you know you don't have to be your dummy today you know what i'm saying just let me be and then i think he just has no clue on how strong he is
i don't see it's like dude your hands even at his age even at his age you know i'm sure
his grip and his is you know it's ridiculous yeah people and most people like that or that that let's
say for example a guy who's done let's say martial arts for a very small little time, but he's been an athlete his whole entire life.
They don't know how to transfer and how much to transfer of their strength
from the other stuff, the other realms
into what they're doing.
So they're kind of like,
sometimes they'll grab you or they'll do something
and then they don't realize,
hey, I can break this guy's arm.
Yeah, they're green.
They're excited and they're just gonna.
Exactly.
That's what they always say with jujitsu. The white belts are the ones that always hurt people, right?
Yeah, because they they're going 100 miles an hour. Yeah, and then they realize you know that it's not about that
It's it's it's it's about the flow. It's about you know
Understanding your opponent and going with it, right and then you let them bait you bait them and you get them, you know
Yeah, the guys that are always in the beginning always always very tense. And then they last about 35 seconds.
That would be me.
They last about 30 seconds.
And same thing with boxing though.
And the same thing with Muay Thai and striking.
I'm finally getting to a point where I can fucking breathe when I'm boxing.
When you're doing it.
It's taken a while,
but.
Yeah,
but you're,
you're big,
bro.
Listen,
the bigger,
even listen.
I am pretty big.
Even the heavyweight guys.
Yeah.
It's about weight though.
It is.
It's about weight.
It's made a big difference bringing my weight down. When I was 250, it was impossible. It's hard. It's yeah. It's about weight though. It is. It's about weight. It's made a big difference bringing my weight down.
When I was 250, it was impossible.
It's hard.
It's hard.
It's hard.
And the thing about boxing or any kind of Muay Thai is you have no rhythm.
There's no rhythm there.
When you're doing pad work, there's no rhythm.
It's one, two, one, two, three, one, two, three, four, one, two.
And then you're moving at the same time.
So you're constantly having to, it's kind of like a high intensity interval type.
It is.
Yeah.
And, and when you're such a big guy, your shoulders are going.
Trying to do the technique.
Right.
But at the same time, it's like, who wants to throw a soft punch?
No, nobody.
Absolutely.
No.
It's like, you always want it to be explosive and you want to get that pop.
If you're hitting pads, it's like you.
And you're trying to be fast.
You can't get that out of your head mentally.
Like you want to get that, you know, like.
It's in the beginning for everyone. The hardest thing for everybody is obviously your head mentally. Like you want to get that, you know, like it's striking there. In the beginning for everyone,
the hardest thing for everybody is obviously technique.
Yeah.
That's the hardest.
And then nobody wants to sit there and throw a one,
two 75,000 times.
Yeah.
And soft.
Right.
You know what I mean?
You want to,
you know,
keep going.
I want to do one,
two,
three,
one,
two,
three,
four.
And then I want to slip.
I want to throw a jab.
I want to throw a cross uppercut.
You don't want to do all these different things, but at the two, three, four. And then I wanna slip. I wanna throw a jab. I wanna throw a cross, uppercut. You don't wanna throw all these different things,
but at the same time is,
that's how you create the bad habits.
And that's how you mess up your technique.
When you're starting to throw stuff
and you don't have, let's say,
the proper technique of how to throw it,
and that's how you end up hurting yourself.
So, and then forget the fact that we're big dudes,
and then the cardio is gonna kill you
and the shoulders are gonna kill you.
Yeah, it's also hard to figure out,
like, there's gotta be some tightness to it.
There's going to be some snap to it.
There's got to be certain times, but it's so different from powerlifting.
Oh.
You know, powerlifting, you get the weight and you just kind of stay tight as possible
the entire time.
It's one, two.
And you can't like stay tight when you're trying to throw punches or move.
You have to be fluid.
You have to be graceful.
While you're breathing.
Graceful is not an honor thing I'm about to do any time soon.
And then you wonder, look at these guys and it's
like man how the freak does that guy do that you know you stop talking shit right away when you're
watching tv and you're like this guy's you know that because you tried it the second you started
trying it you're like i ain't saying shit about no one yeah you realize that guy's doing a really
good job you realize that guy's pretty good you You know, he got his ice speed, but he was pretty good. Yeah.
You know, everything, every sport, basketball, football, baseball, MMA,
everything has its technique.
Everything has its, and it takes, people think, oh, unless you're genetically,
some people are gifted, but it takes time.
Right.
You have to go, and just boxing, let's just say boxing, because I want to say boxing because not that it's the easiest,
but it's the less amount of technique that you have to learn.
There's not as many different things going on.
Exactly. It's not like Muay Thai, we have to know knees, elbows, kicking. So in boxing,
even in boxing to throw a proper job the right way, have proper stance, throw a proper cross,
it takes weeks and weeks of repetition after repetition after repetition.
And most people do not have the dedication to get in that same position every single day
and throw a jab and a cross.
Right.
They just don't have it until they get it right.
You know what I'm saying?
And then they just keep doing it.
And then when you get those right,
then you're going to have another three or four weeks,
maybe two or three months on the hook and uppercut.
When I first learned how to box,
they didn't even teach me that.
It was just all movement.
It was all,
yeah,
in the beginning,
yeah,
you have to move your feet and how you're in stance
and how you move.
And then the first,
that's the first four or five weeks.
That's like a kiddo.
I was like,
am I going to learn how to throw a punch?
Like,
what am I doing here?
Waxing on,
waxing off?
And what happens with most people is they get bored.
Yeah.
Like,
I don't want to learn that.
Yeah,
right.
Four weeks into it,
I haven't thrown a punch yet.
I don't want to learn that.
I'm good.
You know, I canido is the same way.
If you ever take Aikido, the first four months of Aikido,
all you're doing is getting thrown.
I swear to God.
You're like, I'm just going to eat shit every time I come to class.
That's what it is.
All you're doing is rolling and getting thrown,
rolling and getting thrown.
And they teach you how to fall.
They teach you how to fall.
They teach you how to fall.
And you fall 7,500 times.
You haven't learned nothing.
All you've learned is how to hit the ground.
I swear to God, for three or four months.
You swear not to get your ass kicked.
Yeah, and you haven't.
And that's all you do.
Why?
Because it is probably the most important thing in Aikido
because every demonstration you do and every technique that you do.
If you get hurt doing that or hurt somebody
while they're trying to throw you or whatever, right?
You fall down and I explain to people,
falling down on the mat is one thing.
You get into a real fight and you fall down on concrete,
concrete doesn't give, man.
Concrete does not give.
And I tell you that from my personal experience
where I've taken down guys, and I've done just a basic takedown
where you go down to a knee, come back up,
scoop the guy up and down.
You got to be careful how hard you slam him
because you slam your own head in the ground.
You slam your own body.
You slam your own elbow.
You bust your knee when it hits the ground.
You know what I'm saying? I would never aggressively attack anyone, the way no just for the record yes unless uh your family uh yeah so it but in that said
if you don't learn how to do things the right way you end up hurting yourself worse
and and whatever it is that you're doing you know and that's why i tell people all the time
i was like okay even in physical fitness and fitness whatever it is that you're doing, you know? And that's why I tell people all the time, I was like, okay, even in physical fitness,
in fitness, whatever it is that you're learning,
if you don't do it time and time again
and repair the body for it,
the day that you do have to do it,
you're going to do it.
I guarantee you're going to do it.
Your adrenaline dump is going to hit you.
Your heart's going to be racing
and your body will just naturally
pick the person up with this.
But when you're done and that adrenaline runs off
and you realize that you tore your hamstring,
you tore your shoulder, you tore your back, you're going to wish that you'd done all the
things, you know what I'm saying, that you were supposed to have done.
And that's how it is.
And it happens.
It happens.
Because your body naturally, in any situation, adrenaline, your body's going to do it.
So you see a kid, let's say you see an accident and you got to pull somebody out of that car,
but the kid's 270 pounds and you gotta pull him.
But you've never done anything like that in your life.
But naturally the car's on fire and you,
what am I gonna do?
Well, I gotta pull him out.
Well, you end up pulling him out,
you've never pulled anything in your life,
what's gonna happen to you?
You're gonna tear both your biceps,
you're probably gonna take your back out.
You still did it, you saved the kid's life.
Now you're on the ground like this with two torn biceps,
your back's back down,
and you're gonna end up in the hospital right next to the kid. And I tell that to cops all the time. I say, yeah, you saved the kid's life. Now you're on the ground like this with two torn biceps, your back's back down, and you're gonna end up in the hospital
right next to the kid.
And I tell that to cops all the time.
I say, yeah, you're gonna be able
to save the guy's life, you will,
but you're gonna be out for six months,
you're not gonna be able to work overtime,
you're not gonna be able to work off duty,
you're not gonna be able to do nothing
because you were too goddamn lazy
to get under the freaking bench or do something
or go running or go do something for your physical fitness.
You know what I'm saying?
That's part of your job.
Do it, you know?
Where can people uh
find you oh well i live in miami no it's like that yeah right instagram uh real world underscore
tactical um and then pretty much if you google for on youtube or facebook real world tactical
or 20 seminar it doesn't really matter you've been working on a book um yes i've been working
on a book for a while right a little bit it going to be a little while before it comes out.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah, it's going to be a book based on my program that I've designed for the last several years on the hybrid.
Yeah, being able to be 250 pounds and run several miles at a time.
And I think you said you run, what, three miles at like a seven-minute clip or something like that?
Yeah, when I'm doing my conditioning, like a hardcore conditioning, my goal is minute clip or something like that? My goal is always at 245, 250.
I do three miles, eight minute mile.
Yeah.
So that's a cutoff.
I usually do about three miles.
I don't run any more than that.
After that, your knees start to-
You're a big guy.
Yeah, it's a big dude, yeah.
It's going to be tough.
But you're flying.
I mean, as 240 pounds and you're running eight
minute miles, you're booking at that weight.
It's pretty fast.
I think it's pretty fast. Anything else you want to plug before we jump off here? No, man, it's,
thank you so much for having me. It's always a pleasure to come to, to, to visit with you,
Mark, uh, and to be here at super training gym, the new gym, obviously, uh, it's always a great
time to be here. I love having you here. I really admire you look up to you. I appreciate your
service for the country and, uh, being a police officer for so long.
It's, it's awesome, man. It really is.
It's really cool.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Not enough police officers get a pat on the back.
So yeah, I really appreciate you a ton.
Strength is never a weakness.
Weakness is never a strength.
See you guys later.
Laters.
That was fun.
That was fun.
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