Mark Bell's Power Project - Real Men Don't Cry... Right? || MBPP Ep. 1012

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

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What are things that make you cry? Sometimes it just happens. A lot of times I'm thinking about somebody else. If I'm just being real, sometimes I'll be watching a movie. It's like, oh, that hit me. Strong men also cry. I do think it's important for people to at least work through some of their problems like on their own a little bit before you go and like blabbering it to everybody.

Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry. Some women really do not like seeing a man share emotion in that way. What's with men these days? Caleb Williams, he's soft. He's a crybaby. Are you crying? It does seem like people are more open about it. It's just an interesting thing to try to figure out.

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a cop took that from me oh that's different it was my apple headphones my little iphone earbuds dude i like those he borrowed them and never gave them back i like those more than like the the uh the ones that go in the ear but they just don't sound nowhere near as good though yeah like the wired ones anyway do you guys still fuck with in-ear earbuds because like i don't know i haven't in a long time because i heard like it's i mess with them here and there but they they make me they make me more nervous than the over the ear ones for some reason more nervous why i just think it's gonna like fuck up my hair that's what i was thinking that's what i'm thinking and then also with the over the ear one um i don't i don't need to have uh the i don't need to have it as high

especially like with music and i don't think it's good to like it just max out your volume i mean i have no idea but i don't think it's a good idea max out your volume all day long give it a few decades we'll see see how everyone's doing i know all of it could be like microwaving my brain for all i know it's supposed to like because of the the bluetooth and all that it's supposed to be doing something like that the bluetooth and the red tube and the everything else all the colors red tube was one of your favorites mixing together i heard about it once heard about it once red tubes i was all right was all right

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According to an estimate, there are at least 4 million adult websites on the net which is 12 of all websites damn and then also uh and also like instagram's probably 80 porn right you know what i mean i'm probably getting old saying that but ig is a gateway for sure yeah yeah there's a lot of boobies and other things on there. TikTok's way worse, though. Because TikTok. God, I can't imagine. It's got to be exciting. It's got to be better than the Sears catalog back in the day.

Yeah. Looking at women in like a brassiere. Like full coverage. Full coverage everywhere. Just a little cleavage. And you're like, yes, this is awesome. Like in big underwear. Big underwear. And they were really cone-shaped cone shaped too they were like very very padded yeah

yeah yeah oh the oh yeah the bra was yeah uh-huh odd shape like fucking torpedo coming out you know i was thinking the other day this is true that's so true like a femme like a fembot i was thinking this the other day i think it's it's super convenient that like your dick doesn't get wet it's very convenient imagine if your dick got wet that would just suck what do you mean like if like when you got hard when you got excited if it also got like wet well some guys have like creamies yeah yeah a little yeah a little little spurt here but every time you got erect if it would just be like the whole like if if we were like women like the whole front of our pants would be wet all the time so oh that would be that would

be horrible like oh my god and you'd be like no i peed my pants i swear even these days man even these days i'd be bad i still wear tight shit, tight boxers. Try to hold it down. Just so, you know. You never know. Yeah, you never know. Wind picks up the wrong way or the right way. And there you go.

Yeah. I'm still an easily excited gentleman. But I'll never show it. You'll never know. Could just be hiding one. You can't tell. Hiding a boner? Yeah.

You can't tell for multiple reasons. But at the same time, you'll never know. just be hiding one you can't tell hiding a boner yeah you can't tell for multiple reasons but at the same time you'll never know keep it a secret let me yep here we go god why does it look like that yeah right the pointy bra uh-huh just triangles everywhere i don't know maybe that does something underneath clothes to maybe to accentuate the this is always in like the 60s and 70s like the yeah woman's like boobs would would be like pointy looking what you mean the brow or like all the women that'd be interesting no i think i think the bra was like pointy yeah and then so i think you know it just it looked pointy it looked like their titties were pointy

andrew knows what i'm talking about i love that just like we will like we will never ever grow up but yeah i know exactly what you're talking about yeah like the main woman on the show like her boobs looked pointy yeah like a madonna type thing maybe it's just everything was like clean and pressed back then so boobs are fascinating they really are i think it was rogan he does like a whole bit about like you have great new york boobs he says that was chapelle yeah but it was rogan yeah that was rogan he does a whole bit about like cleavage and then he's like, imagine the male equivalent. He's like, imagine if we had a window on our pants that just showed your nuts.

He's like, it holds the dick off to the side maybe a little bit, but the balls are jammed together, and it's like a little clear window into the balls that you get to see. That you pretend that you're not looking at when you're talking to somebody. You're like, eyes are gleaming at when you're talking to somebody. You're like, eyes are gleaming downward as you're talking to somebody. You're like, hey, nice ball cleavage. Yeah. On a side note, it's so interesting. No, no, I do find it so interesting

how some women really like balls. And I can understand if a woman likes men that maybe she'd like balls. But I look at my balls. I'm just like, ew. I'm just like, why would you ever like this hairy sack? Yeah, women are foul. They are. They're gross. I could understand women liking other women's breasts because they're beautiful. They're wonderful things. But balls are just, they're always in this boxers and they they collect guys mindset you're like i'll eat every single thing that that girl has the whole i'll eat the whole thing the whole package before workout after workout but there's girls that think yeah there's girls that get excited about the same thing and you're

like no way do that with me. Like, I'm really disgusting. Don't ever think that about me. Maybe thinking about another person might be fine, but yeah, I'm not the right person for that. That's right. You're right. I'm holding a double standard. That's not okay.

That's okay. What's our topic for today? We have something? You write something down, Andrew? We got something. You got the script? The script. Oh, yeah. We can start with uh what was the quarterback's name i already forgot he's on the cat oh this is the quarterback for uh usc he's uh he won the heisman trophy last

year i don't remember his name caleb williams there you go he's on all the commercials and stuff yeah he's famous when and where is it acceptable for a man to cry? Because from what I understood, grown men had some pride and dignity, right? So tell me why USC quarterback and Heisman winner Caleb Williams felt compelled to run to his mommy in the stands and bawled his eyes out. This lasted for at least a full minute.

And then it gets even better because RG3 had the audacity to tweet out this. Any NFL team would be lucky to have him as their quarterback, and this emotion shows how much this game means to him. I totally disagree with this. An NFL team needs a leader. Not running to his mommy, bawling his eyes out, and creating a spectacle for the cameras.

Oh, and then after the game, in the post-game presser, Williams said that... I want to go home and cuddle with my dog and watch some shows. What's with men these days? How is this deemed acceptable in their minds? Caleb Williams, he's soft, he's a crybaby, and I implore any NFL scouts to keep this pathetic scene in mind when concocting their idea of what a leader on an NFL team looks like.

When and where is it? Hmm. She's a little harsh. Yeah. She does not like a man who sheds tears in front of people. She said, I thought men had pride and dignity running back to his mommy wow he's soft yeah very soft that's not very nice no you know the funny thing is like the uh if a woman said stuff like this or if a man said stuff like this the immediate

thing that women will say is who hurt you yeah and the thing i want to tell ask her it's like who hurt you yeah damn yeah she's all over it uh but it is interesting like you know when do you kind of like let loose i don't think he i mean who the hell knows i don't think he had any control over what happened there it didn't seem like seemed like he ran over to his mom i saw his mom in the stands jumped up there and it just seemed like he ended up having a moment. And I don't know the story. I don't know exactly what happened or what's going on. I don't think it's great to just be crying on TV,

especially when you're in a position like he's in, and he's going to get drafted next year, and there's a lot to consider. But I'm sure that none of that was in his head. He probably had a rough game they just lost his mom was there he's probably grateful for the support and probably just had some sort of moment that none of us could really we don't really know exactly what he had going on he probably just lost it a bit yeah it's funny like i wasn't even really considering that part of it but like seeing his mother probably mean, who wouldn't like feel something in that moment? Um, and I'm thinking about this cause there was a post, uh, it was

just like, cause you know, you start following some parent accounts and they start getting into your feed and there were, this is a little kid, so this is way different, but she was like doing some kind of performance. She's looking around the crowd. She doesn't see her parents. And then finally, like, you know, as she looks towards towards the camera she sees her parents and she starts crying and she gets full of so much emotion because she's so happy but so like i'm thinking maybe in that moment there's a little bit of that but at the same time like you know depending on what team is projected to potentially draft him you know if i'm that team i'm like hmm like wait a second like is is there more here like is there do we need to dig deeper into like what's going on here emotionally like if he can't handle this what else can't he handle well let me ask you when when you say that what do you mean can't

handle so do you think in that situation what are you saying exactly no i'm just saying in general like uh you don't want somebody that's not very stable in all situations, like especially at the quarterback position. This may be not quite the perfect story for it, but when Peyton Manning was interviewed by the Colts, they were like, hey, what are you going to do as soon as you get drafted? He's like, I'm going to go learn the playbook. And then they interviewed Ryan Leaf, and they were like, hey, what are you going to do when you get drafted?

He's like, oh, I'm going to take my boys, and we're going to go celebrate getting drafted. They're like, oh, cool. Thank you for coming. Ryan Leaf ended up being one of the biggest busts in all of NFL history off of this one little question. And again, I know that's not too relevant to what we're talking about here, but you want somebody that's going to be there physically and mentally for your team and if this guy's supposed to be the guy it might be you know something that you look at now i don't know for sure if it's enough to actually like dig in and look at it but i think it'll be something and the thing is though it'll take one really good play for all of this to get washed away

100 yeah that's all it's gonna take right. While y'all are listening, I want you, I want you to comment down below, uh, guys crying or, or, or dudes crying. And even this situation, is it,

is it a show that men are becoming softer and weaker? Are you going to Elliot Hulse this shit? Or, uh, is there times when it's okay? Curious what you guys think. So comment that down below. But when it,

when it comes to this type of shit, I mean, let me ask, let me ask both of you, both of you guys think so comment that down below but when it when it comes to this type of shit i mean let me ask you let me ask both you guys both you guys this what are things that make you cry if you ever do what and and yeah what are things that make you i think that's a tough thing is that like i again i think in this situation i don't think he was like thinking about anything he ran to his mom and probably jumped up there and just had a moment. That's the weird thing about crying sometimes. Like I can talk about my brother's death or my mother's death a lot of times and be totally fine. Sometimes, you know, I might run into somebody, a fan or something, or a friend of my brother's. I might even just see a friend of my brother's, like an old friend of,

old family friend of my brother's, and I might just start to cry like that might bring out emotion and it's almost like i'm thinking about how hurt he is because he was friends with my brother you know that kind of thing yeah so i don't really know exactly like uh the direct like mechanism of of what something is that's going to make me cry but sometimes it just happens a lot of times i'm thinking about somebody else it's not even my own shit that i'm going through i'm just thinking about um man like that must really hurt that person that sucks that will that will cause me to tear up pretty quickly okay that's i mean i don't that doesn't sound weak or unacceptable right andrew how about you uh trying to think i don't know like kind of want to like a more lighter note. But you see those videos when somebody's coming back from a stint overseas in the Army. And they surprise their kid or something.

The kid starts bawling. I'm right there with them. It's like, oh, my gosh. They always do it in some big setup way and shit. Yeah. I'm a sucker for some of that shit. Yeah, stuff like that. Or even like, I don't know, hearing about a certain team winning like winning a championship and like kind of understanding their story and stuff like that.

Like you get super punked for people. So like I get, you know, I'll get a little like teary eyed for stuff like that every now and again. Andrew, can you play this video I'm about to send you, please? I want you to say it reminds me of this. I remember we pulled it up on a podcast once. I couldn't help but fucking laugh. I just sent it to you in the chat. There's also crying from just being joyful, being happy.

Yeah. You know, sometimes you cry because you're fucking excited about something. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck. This guy is great, by the way. Now, I'll tell you when I do cry. When you see one of those kids at Down Syndrome

get in a high school basketball game, starts nailing threes, and the gym goes crazy, I'll be crying. What? When you said the fucking, like, oh, yeah, when a military person comes back, I just, like. I mean, I thought of this guy. I only cry when I see those kids with Down syndrome, you know? He was so specific.

So specific. Dude, but it is interesting because, I don't know. I don't think it's that big of a deal it's a very different thing if like you're a person who is crying like all the time everything gets you down you do that in front of other people all the time right it's it's kind of different than if something hits you like i mean if i'm just real, sometimes I'll be watching a movie and something really nice happens. I'm just like, oh, that hit me. There's this fucking anime.

It's called. I'm not crying. Yeah, there's a fucking anime called One Piece. And this guy, Chiro Oto, who wrote it, it's like there's thousands of chapters. Right. So this guy's written a big story. He has a bunch of like characters with dark past and shit. And multiple times there will be stories of just

like horrible things and just oh my god that hits like you know a good story with a good like that shit will make a person cry and i don't think there's any type of weakness if like whoa you feel something and you cry right so when this woman's going on about this guy going up to his mommy she had to call it mommy who knows what the happened? Maybe he hasn't seen his mom in a long ass time. Maybe she just went through some shit, you know. Maybe they dedicated the game to like a family member that died or something. Yeah. And then going back home to his dogs and enjoying something.

And that's, why is that so? Why is that so bad? Sounds like a good idea. I don't know. I love to cuddle up with my dogs. Well, the game's also over too yeah so it's not like

it wasn't halftime where he saw his mom and then cried and then continued to lose the game you know like might be a different conversation

he'd be like man the second half he came out super flat he was crying with his mama on the sidelines and then he just sucked the whole game the game was over

you know and it's like we don't really there's people celebrating there's people running off was over you know and it's like we don't really uh there's people celebrating there's people running off the field you know uh putting their hand over their head screaming yelling all pumped up happy they're happy you know so what's really the big difference between someone being happy versus someone crying all right but let me ask you this mark because i remember i think eric mentioned something one day i don't know if he just saw a video and you were

like what is it with all these dudes talking about crying? Yeah. So you do what, there's something you notice. What is it that you meant when you said that? So that's a little different. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Eric was talking about the podcast with Chris Williamson and Chris Bumstead. And Eric was like, I love the fact that he was like so open and this and that. And then he's like, I love the fact that he talked about crying and then Owen or someone else chimed in and all these guys are like of similar age i was like what's with you guys and all this crime what the fuck's going on around here

so while that video is interesting and like the woman's you know pointing out the guy's crying after the game or whatever um i think she is mentioning something that probably a lot of people have noticed is that maybe men are crying more or maybe they're just sharing their emotions more. Maybe men didn't used to talk about it as much. Social media is a really weird thing because, you know, like you're trying to share stuff with people and then you might try to share the fact that you had a rough day and that you deal with depression or you deal with sadness but a lot of other people do that too and so are you

trying just to get likes for that or are you someone that really does have some cloudy days and you really have overcame those things or are you just trying to placate into this day and age of like you're able to get likes, sympathy, people comment, oh, man, you got this, bro, or like whatever the kind of outcry is for some of this stuff. So it does seem like people are more open about it. It's just an interesting thing to try to figure out where does this leave us? Is this a positive thing? Is it a negative thing? I don't really know. I don't think suppressing your feelings all the time is a good idea. But also I don't think just letting your feelings run you rampant and drag you around like you're getting dragged around by a horse or something like that. I don't think that's a good idea.

I do think it's good for men to start to – men and women to start to learn some sort of emotional maturity, not to stuff things down and not to just be cold and all that kind of stuff, but just, uh, sit on your feelings for a second and like sit with them and just, you know, let, let, let yourself allow yourself to maybe think about them a little bit, allow yourself to start to, um, cause you don't want to, I think the main thing about a feeling is that I think that you, um, you don't want to overreact to a feeling, whether it be good or bad. Sometimes you do have to react if it's a sport or something like that. But even within a sport, most people will say, and in something like war, you want people to have a skill set to rely on that overrides whatever feeling you may have. I'm sure in the military, they don't want to execute some of the things that they have to execute, but they do them because it's part of a safety protocol. It's part of a team and they just

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Links are in the description box below as well as the podcast show notes. The thing about this lady right here and many women too, and you'll hear a lot of guys talk about this. Some women really do not like seeing a man share emotion in that way there have been guys and there's a video we went pull up but there there are guys that talk about how you know when when a man does that automatically her pussy dries up you know like woman hate that and I think part of the reason why it's like sometimes a guy could overdo it with like the crying and the sorrow and the sharing of his problems and his woes where it could end up being something very negative in the relationship.

But there are some women who feel that a man needs to be Superman. Like, why are you being a little bitch? And that partially just could be because maybe if she had a father in her life, maybe her father never showed anything too. Because that's something that you kind of, you see it from like older generation guys. Like we don't share that shit. We don't, like if they have a son, why the fuck are you crying? Buck up, man up, kid.

We don't do that, right? So if a girl sees that from her dad, then like the man she wants to be with, you better not be crying or or showing that because that means you're you're a weak dude right it seems like there there just does need to be a middle ground too because we're human like men are human too you know i i can understand like i've seen mike o'hearn post some stuff about this i see a lot of the stuff from elliot hulls i can understand having a level of emotional regularity,

having control over your emotions as a man. But then on the other side of things, not allowing yourself to feel certain things or stuffing certain things down and not sharing it at all or just holding it to yourself doesn't seem to be healthy as a human being because you're a human with all those emotions right it's kind of unfair to say you you can't show that right ever probably a

time and place i think uh having again having some maturity with it being able to like pause on it be able to think about it a little bit more before you express exactly what's going on obviously like if you feel like you're in some real danger, then it's important to communicate with somebody. But I think if you can buy yourself some time and communicate with somebody about it and say, I don't really know what's going on, but like this situation,

I've been trying to do a bunch of different things and it actually is breaking my heart. It's making me really sad. I don't think there's anything wrong with talking that way. And even just bringing that up and even saying that that way might make you cry. But you might have also had an opportunity to think about it enough to where crying isn't really part of it anymore because maybe you already were doing that. Maybe you were already kind of like working, working those things out. I do think it's important for people to at least work through some of their problems, like on their own a little bit before you go and like blabbering it to everybody,

because I think it's important for you to be able to, in a relationship, it's different, you know, if it's with your mom, it might be different. But I think for the most part, I think that you should try to work through your problems a little bit so you can make better sense so you can communicate better. If you think about like a little kid when they're really crying and they try to go to their parent, they can't even talk. And they're trying to explain that their brother hit them with a truck or something like that in the back of the head. And they can't get the word. And you're like, OK, slow down and calm down and you're trying to get the uh information out so i think you know being able to have some sort of uh like

mental and emotional maturity with it i think could be really important yeah i i like wanted to um to point out like so with my dad zero emotion so when it came to me trying to handle my emotion i didn't know what the fuck like I didn't know what what I was doing and I read something I don't know who wrote it but and it's kind of like how I like why I'm trying to um to like how you said like work through the emotions a little bit better um it was something like um don't let the cloud over your head get your kids wet and I was like, that's deep. So whatever the heck I'm trying to work through, I want to do it in a positive way.

So that way it's like it doesn't get dumped onto my son. I'm not saying the way it did from my dad to me. But I could tell that my dad would be depressed, but he would never admit it. He never, ever dealt with it. And I remember reading that it can be like a generational thing like if you don't take care of whatever you're working on you can pass it down so like i'm trying to make sure i'm not passing any of that weight down to my son so like trying to learn to you know do things almost in a positive way of trying to i don't want to say trauma because you know whatever like it doesn't take a traumatic thing to happen for me to like, kind of feel like I'm down. But at the

same time, like whatever that is that sparked it, like I need to figure out how to work through that. So I don't, you know, pass it over to my son for him to try to figure out one day. Your son's sitting on your lap and you're like, well, son, I'm super sad today. I'm not where I want to be in my life. And your son just looks at you and blinks a couple times and goes dad stop being such a yeah that's my daddy's such a yeah he was like i was hanging out with grandpa the other day and he said you're a little hey hey but real talk i have a question for you man um you said your dad never really showed anything and some people may look at that as a level of strength let me ask you do you do you think that and i okay i i don't want this to

sound like because whenever people mention things about their parents some people are like oh everybody blames their parents but the thing is you got to think about like you learn from your parents like they're the closest thing to you for most people so you will learn to model certain things that your parents do now as you became an adult did you find that you modeled any of that and was that for you do you think a positive or was it a negative that you had to try are you trying to work out currently yeah i'm still working through it but i mean we've i've jokingly said like i don't i don't like kids and you know i have two kids and i love my kids but like i don't like kids and, you know, I have two kids and I love my kids, but like I don't like kids. So that's been a super big negative thing for me. Like when my son was born, it was like really difficult for me to hold him just because I felt like, oh, my gosh, I'm going to break him.

I know everybody kind of feels that way. But people feel that way and they still will, you know, hold their nieces and nephews and stuff. I never did. I always went like, wait till you're older and then we'll hang out or something i'm not holding a three week old nope yeah so stuff like that where it's like wow like i probably could have got some reps in before i got to my son you know like that would have been kind of nice like that's cool and then um so that's one thing where i feel like it did have a negative thing and then the other negative that turned into a positive is like

we never told each other that we loved each other like ever. And now with my son and my daughter and now my wife, we say it every day, like several times a day. Like we can't like see each other without saying it. And growing up, we never said it. And I knew we did, but it's just like we never said it. So it's like kind of two, we'll say negative things that I'm kind of turning around to try to be a more positive thing. And the first one being like recognizing like, oh, shit, like I missed an opportunity to get some reps in. And the second one, like, oh, I'm not going to miss an opportunity to tell them that I love them.

I definitely saw emotions in my house. Crying, like not a ton. I didn't see a lot of crying, but, um, I'd see my dad get mad, you know, I'd see him get mad. I'd see my mom would get frustrated with us here and there, you know, having three boys and just having us like break stuff and eat all the food all the time and stuff. I've seen her, you know, she would get mad. Um, I've seen my dad be angry and then like do something, you know, I've seen my dad be angry and then like do something

I've seen him angry and like punch something or throw your Nintendo out the window throw something you know like yeah those are things that are hard to detach when you're a kid not that my dad was never violent or anything

but you know he would get mad to the point where in my opinion, he'd overreact. And I don't think that having your emotions lead to that is a good thing. I think that's a negative in most cases. So even something like crying, I don't think there's anything wrong with crying. I think there could be something wrong with crying and being super upset and then like the aftermath of that. Like what are you going to do next? So you cry because you're super upset about something and then now are you on the couch like drinking?

You know, getting drunk and like trying to deal with it that way? you on the couch like drinking you know getting drunk and like trying to deal with it that way uh or did you just cry and you wipe off the tears and you go outside and you go for a walk you know i think i think what you do with those emotions and then uh you know trying to explain them to children can be really can be difficult sometimes because like why are you crying it's like unless someone died it's kind of complicated can be kind of complicated to explain it sometimes yeah it's it's uh it's hard for it to just be constantly looked at as a as weakness right um i think anger can be weakness too a hundred percent 100 especially for a lot of guys like that's one thing where again, it's okay if you feel angry,

but what are your actions that you're taking from there? Are you punching walls and yelling at people? I'd almost rather see someone cry than see them to be mad because I think a lot of times when you're mad, especially a guy, when a guy seems to get mad, they seem to have a real hard time calming down and coming back from that. Where I've seen plenty of people come back from crying because they cry and then they let it out and they're like maybe they're a little embarrassed

you know like fuck all right kind of back to normal but everybody knows that everyone cries um i do think that it's uh i think it's dumb i think it's just flat out dumb and stupid to have stuff that you don't talk about. Sometimes somebody will say something like, oh, don't talk to your dad about that. He's super religious or something, something about sex or something. And it's like, I'm so confused right now. Why are those two things gelled together that way?

People that are religious don't have sex? What's the connection there? Like that's really odd. Not until you're married. Yeah. Not until you're married, which is fine, but still doesn't mean you can't talk, you know, still probably have some sort of conversation about it. So I think, you know, just being stubborn and not being like open or open-minded to having conversation, being stubborn and not being like open or open-minded to having conversation, I think is really detrimental. I think communicating with your kids as they're growing up,

every time they have an emotion, especially the stronger the emotion, the better the opportunity for education. It's like, this is a learning opportunity right here. My kid is crying and they're really upset because their friend broke their video game thing or whatever. This is a great opportunity to have a conversation. This is a great opportunity to say, hey, these things happen and explain it whatever way you need to. And even just situations that might happen where your kid feels left out. Your kid feels, you know, there's all kinds of stuff kids can feel, but being left out is probably one of the bigger ones that especially like younger kids will feel. But working them through those emotions and communicating with them, I think will help them when they're adults.

Before we move on any further, in regards to Caleb Williams, like, cause I'm just thinking like he's not the first athlete on a big stage that cried after a loss but for some reason he did get a lot of attention i'm not sure why like because i'm thinking um even well i guess that was a win but when vernon davis uh scored a game-winning touchdown he took his helmet off and he just like like he cried kind of like red on friday he's just like w took his helmet off, and he just, like, he cried kind of, like, red on Friday. He's just, like, waddling to his coach, and he's crying, like, just full-on ugly crying. And everybody was kind of, they were cool with that.

I'm curious, Mark, why do you think people made such a big deal out of Caleb Williams this time? I just think they're not used to seeing that. Like, right after the game, he ran up into the stands to his mom. He's still like not all the way in the stands, you know. He's like sitting on the fence there and he's crying with his mom. And I think his mom shielded him, like his mom like blocked their faces so you couldn't see. And it was very clear by like the way he was moving that he was not only was he crying but it seemed like it was like a really like deep emotional cry so i think that we're used to seeing athletes like when they win they'll cry um sometimes post-game interview and they lost maybe like a little like man i'm super upset you know we've tried to tried so hard for this team and i'm disappointed in myself and uh i let i let down, I let my team down. You see that sometimes and you're like, well, it's all like understandable. But his situation where he kind of jumped up into the crowd with his mom, I can't remember ever really seeing that before where an athlete was with like their parent.

Got it. And they were crying. parent and they were crying. Like, um, it just makes you think of like a schoolyard situation where like the kid ran home and ran to his mom. Um, but I, again, I don't think, I don't really, I mean, I don't think that guy's weak. I don't, I don't think he's, uh, I mean, I think he's a, he's a hell of an athlete. Um, and who the hell knows? Um, I remember, you know, just like having, And who the hell knows? I remember just like having a parent at a sporting event is really powerful for some reason. I don't know what it does. I don off the bench and I was kind of pit. I was like pretty pissed because I just locked the weight out. I'm holding the weight at lockout forever.

And I don't know if it's, if you couldn't hear the guy say the rack command or I don't know what happened, but he's saying rack and that's usually signifies that the lift is over and it's a good lift. And then people help you back to the rack, but like no one could hear him or he called it late or something. So I'm holding this weight up there forever and I feel like I'm going to fucking die. I make the lift and I get up off the bench and I'm purple and gray.

And I'm like, you know, walking to the back and I'm like, I mean, I'm so mad if someone was like in my way, I felt like I could have fucking just knocked him out because I just, I was frustrated, you was frustrated for a moment. And that normally doesn't ever happen to me. But my mom, the first person I walked past was my mom, and she grabbed my forearm. She goes, good job, honey. I just went, whoosh. In that moment, I could have just probably bawled, but I was still kind of like walking or whatever. But that's also a big spectrum of how much emotion certain guys have versus others, how much they're willing to show versus others. And it's a bit ridiculous

to think that all men should be like this, because not all women are one way either. So let's say that, because Caleb, I just found something that he said, that's just simply who I am. That was raw emotion, being human, being myself, someone that cares about this team, these guys, and winning especially. Right? So he is a self-admitted kind of emotional guy. And there's going to be some woman or many women who like that aspect of him. But, I mean, I know for myself, like there are certain things that will make me feel things, but I'm not generally an emotional person. I don't ever have outbursts.

I really don't show when I'm angry. So it's just different. It doesn't mean it's better. It doesn't mean it's ideal. It doesn't mean it's better to women too because like a lot of times when you see guys talk about this it's in relation to how women will view you right like there's this video that will pull up from this hamza guy or whatever but you know one of the things that's mentioned is like oh women will view you as weaker right well a subtype of women will view you as weaker it doesn't mean every type of woman and if a woman views you as

weak for and let's say that it wasn't oversharing or over emotion, but it was some sharing and some emotion, if she views you as weak, that should kind of maybe be a red flag. Maybe you're a red flag for her because you share a little bit of emotion, but maybe she's a red flag for you because she cannot handle any type of emotion from a human man. Like you're supposed to to be strong stoic and rigid all the time maybe maybe i need to get away from this right that's something to be careful of do you guys watch shark tank uh i'm used to i'm a huge fan of shark tank i've been watching it forever i think i've seen every episode but i don't think it's that's possible there's so many episodes but

um the show gets real when they when the people cry a lot of times you know they they're going back and forth they're like what are your sales like and they're like yeah we sold 10 000 units last month and they're like oh that's great they go over the numbers they say what made you come up with this idea and then here come the waterworks you know like my parents are immigrants and they barely made it and they provided a life for me and they have this story. And when someone's sharing their life story and sharing the difficulty that the whole family went through to get them to this point, they're going to be like super emotional. And I think you see like a lot of speeches or motivational speeches. Someone's like really trying to get somebody charged up.

When they cry a little bit, it pulls a little extra out of you. You start to hear that real life, real person emotion. It's not just the person just talking. Like you got to get out there and you got to be – it's different if the person is crying. They're like, man, it was hard for me. And they start getting choked up and they stop and they have to, they're crying so much, they need to like, you know, take a moment like Jordan Peterson. You see that a lot with him.

A lot of times it just pulls you in a little bit. I mean, for some people it might be a deterrent, but for me, I'm usually like listening a little bit more. I'm like, oh shit, like this guy's, this guy really, you know, and maybe, maybe it's a ploy, you know, maybe the guy's trying maybe the person trying to get you uh more into what they're saying but it works it makes a difference and i'm not here to change anybody but you you should maybe ask think about this if if maybe like let's say it's a peterson thing you see the guy cry a little bit because he's thinking of something

somebody told him or his cats right if he if it immediately makes you like uncomfortable um maybe ask yourself why why does that make you so uncomfortable because i mean if again there are ways to overdo these emotions right where it's like yo dog chill chill all right but if just in general some of that just makes you immediately uncomfortable maybe it's a you thing not not this other person's problem because they shed a few tears. Right. So that's something to think about. Yeah. Why are you so worried about it, bro? Power Project Family Foot Health is something that we talk about all the time on the podcast, and that's why we love Vivo Barefoot Shoes.

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Right. Just went for it. Just went for it, yeah. And he said, he thought I was wrong about the fact that I always tell you to not be vulnerable and show bad emotions to your woman. He said he thought I was wrong for this. And then he told me his story where he defied what I said. He opened up, became more vulnerable and sexual attraction diminished. He started acting feminine. She started acting more masculine and their relationship ended. He was confused even to this moment, even after having that experience, asking me why this is happening. And even now,

he couldn't truly believe that you shouldn't be vulnerable in front of a woman. And you know what I said to him? Of course you don't believe me when I tell you to not show emotions, bad emotions, weakness to your woman, because everyone else is disagreeing. Every movie, all the news, every dickhead on Twitter, all of your friends, your family, everyone is doing it wrong. And they're telling you to do exactly like them. They're telling you to treat your partner, your wife, your woman, like your buddy, like your male friend. They're telling you to burden her with your troubles when she will consciously say that that's really nice. You know, wow. Well, she'll see about it.

Should have paused it with the cat ears. Yeah, that was great. I would say that I think in a healthy relationship and people can disagree with this, but I think that – I think it's a good idea for both people not to trouble each other with each other's burdens and to work through them a little bit on your own, again, until you start – until you like recognize that this – because if you go to them every single time, it's going to wear away at somebody. Because if you go to them every single time, it's going to wear away at somebody. If you go to them every single time, I mean, maybe in particular, maybe someone does have like a particular problem that keeps coming up. I'm not really talking about that. I'm just talking about like little stuff. Like if you burden your spouse or burden your significant other all the time, every day with something that you're sad about or upset about or i i just think that's a lot i think that's a lot to ask and i think that you might end up in a

relationship that's a little like one-sided because you're you keep just taxing the fuck out of that person so i i think my my wife does a lot of that you know she doesn't always we don't always tell each other what the kids tell us sometimes it's private you know sometimes jake will share something with me that he won't share with his mother and vice versa same thing with quinn um but if something's going to be like a bigger problem you know i might even say to jake like hey let's just we'll keep that between you and i for now but like if this becomes a bigger thing, then we'll all have to discuss it further, you know? And kind of go from there.

So I think you just, I gotta be careful with like trying to burden somebody with every little tiny thing that happens. I think it's really dope that she said that because some guys may look at themselves and tell themselves, I am the rock. I should be able to handle everything. And men and women, like if the person you're with, the woman you're with, is constantly telling you everything she has to deal with, it might feel good that like you have – you feel that someone's open enough and they depend on you so much.

But if they depend on you for everything and if everything comes to you, now they're just another burden, right? everything comes to you. Now they're just another burden, right? They're not, what you're saying is, if you're in a relationship as adults, be adults, right? You have issues, doesn't mean you can't go to that person with it, but man and woman, toggle through it a little bit. Because you're an adult now, you can be able

to deal with some of these things and then go to your significant other. Sometimes it's like the littlest thing like i might ask my wife to grab me something while i'm sitting down i'm like get up and get it yourself like honestly dude like fucking get up and get it what are you doing you know i mean she does it to me i do it to her like we do it a little a little bit but it's like she seems to have plenty on her plate you know she doesn't seem to need to add anything else just get off your ass and get it.

Could be just even the smallest shit like that, I think. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's another part to this. You are. And you're like a little bitch who thinks about her while she's thinking about work. Fair enough.

But usually those kinds of relationships end in resentment. The reason why not to show vulnerability to your girlfriend is because if she is a feminine woman, which you probably do want a woman to be feminine and submissive rather than her to dominate you, you want her to be submissive to you. That means that if she is full of feminine energy, she can only be totally attracted to and in love with a man who displays perfect masculine energy. When you show weakness and emotions and you cry and stuff, you're showing to her that you are not that perfect masculine man, which is fine for a little bit. Like it can happen. Sometimes you can complain without realizing sometimes you can just cry a little bit because some bad shit's happened That's fine

But if you start to do this consistently if you start to act like a little bitch and you're burying your head in her breast And ask her like oh, you know, she's oh she's wiping away the tears and this happens often She will lose respect for you. This is seen as evil advice But it's the true advice the evil advice is the one telling you to ruin your relationship right now You may disagree go and ask any guy who's actually done this and he'll tell you the exact same thing consciously and in the real world She was so nice and so happy as he opened up and slowly and surely within a month two months their relationship ended conveniently just coincidentally Maximum two months for every guy who ever opens up to his girlfriend about two months later either the relationship ends or she's cheating on The side this is not to tell you to never speak about your problems again because people will say oh he's telling

people to bottle up and that leads to suicide no no no i'm not telling you to bottle up your emotions this is telling you to choose a different person to be emotional in front of because there is a person you can do which will actually be useful and that is a male friend but to your woman as much as she says that she'd love for you to open up, she truthfully, subconsciously doesn't want to hear your problems. Why? Because she believes that you are that man. If she's in love with you and she's allowing you to fuck her or, you know, soon to be there. If she's in love with you, she has this perception of you that you are that guy.

That you are the guy that can solve any challenge, no problem. That you will get it done. That you will bear the stress on your shoulders. She thinks of you highly. Why would you ruin that? done that you will bear the stress on your shoulders she thinks of you highly why would you ruin that why would you show her oh by the way you know this image that you had of me why i was like superman and i could do all these things i'm struggling baby i'm really struggling i'm really sad it's really hard life's really hard it seems evil to say this it really seems wrong to say this all right i love the weakness shirt we need to get those

like the guy's like wearing a weakness shirt and he's all like weakness super emo dude there there's a lot of shit there there's the one thing where it's like he he mentioned the uh if she she already sees you as like the superman who can handle any type of burden etc why would you want to um why would you want to mess with that image uh like as much as that's the man i'd like to be i can't be the man who can handle all burdens all the time all the fucking time i can't i can try but i can't and i can understand and tell you to open up to your homies because again like we just mentioned you can't open up to the person you're with about everything all the time and be a burden. But if I felt that I could never talk to the woman I'm with about anything all the time or else she'd lose her attraction to me and my Superman image would go away, that's not healthy, dog. Like some might call me a bitch for that, but that's not healthy.

No, it kind of means that you also like barely got her too right and you don't want to be in that situation where they you know the second that you uh are slightly different they get rid of you you know so or they cheat on you on the side right yeah i think uh you know you got to keep in mind too it sounds like most of the time this guy's usually talking about like dating which is different than like being with somebody for a long time um you know when you're with somebody for a long time i think things are way different you start to learn the other person you learn uh what's easier to communicate with someone about you learn when you learn like when it's easier you know is it good for me to start out the day like communicating this to my spouse or should I maybe wait till they're in a better mood and I can communicate about the thing I'm frustrated about and we can have like a more logical conversation rather than both of us getting frustrated.

So I think, you know, in this case, he's talking a lot about dating, which is which is way different. dating which is which is way different but i also think that if you have to think about the way that you act and the way that you are um i think that you're trying to be with somebody and i don't think that's ever a good idea i don't think try i don't you shouldn't have to try should be like things should go along pretty smoothly and if you're someone who is because with what with what we do and and like our mindset we're always thinking of ways that we can improve ourselves. The self-improvement aspect of us doesn't really stop. But if you find that you need to hold this type of facade around the woman you're with so she can't see how you maybe feel or how you are, how you maybe feel or how you are um that's if again if that's something you're serious about and you want to spend if you want to marry them like hmm that it's hard to not let you not not

show yourself to them or not feel that you can be vulnerable with them and when i use the word vulnerable again it's not like you have to cry in their bosom like he mentioned or fucking be this sad piece of shit. It's just like you got something going on. You don't feel comfortable enough to tell your significant other. And if you feel more comfortable telling your homies, tell your homies. That's fine because maybe that's the way. But you'll spend a lot of time with this person. You may be having children with this person.

They're going to be probably closer to you than your male friends right it it just seems odd to me that you you that that you can't do that you know and again i'm not talking about sharing every single problem all the fucking time it's a very different type of thing but i mean you've been with andy how? A long ass time. I think 23 years. Married for 23 years. Married for 23 years. Would you say that she knows you better than almost anybody? Yeah.

Yeah, she does. She knows me better than anybody. Better than anybody. Yeah. That's kind of a goal. Right? That's a goal. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Right. That's a goal. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And I don't know. It seems almost like it's it's a it's a sign or a form of weakness. If you can't truly be yourself around this person that you do want to spend the rest of your life with or at least, I don't know, the foreseeable future. And you're kind of always putting up this fake person. And so it's like, well, shit, dude, does she really like you? And you don't know because you're not willing to actually open up to see if she does like you. So then, yeah, I just feel like it's kind of almost weak doing that way as well or doing it that way as well. There's a happy medium to this shit, man.

Yeah, definitely. And I think, you know, what he's pointing out, you know, saying like she views you as a Superman. I think that's cool you know i think that's great if they if someone views you as uh the masculine energy or views you in a certain light yeah all that's cool but i don't again i don't think i think once you get in a position of uh having to try to figure out having to try to figure out how to like stay with somebody i think you might be in a i think you might i'm not talking about marriage because marriage is different but if you're just dating somebody and you're really trying to figure it out i don't i think once you get into trying i think you're just in the you're in the wrong spot you're in the wrong place with the wrong person there shouldn't be any trying you shouldn't have to try to make the person like you more

by acting any kind of way. They either like you or they don't. And you'll either be with them for a long time or you won't be. But you can't. You might be able to prolong it. You might be able to stretch it out further, but that's worse. You know, being with someone for two or three years is worse than being with someone for six months. Like six months would be great.

You figured it out in six months that, ah, look, it's not going to work. You're probably both hurting afterwards. Probably some tears are shed or something like that, but probably not that bad. Two or three years, like that's a lot harder. You probably moved in with each other and it probably takes a lot more to recover from. But really somewhere along the line, someone was like trying to make something work that just wasn't there anyway. See if we can bring up a clip of Jordan Peterson. It's really something to see. It's really something to see Even the music

Constantly How many people Are dying for a lack of an encouraging Word And how easy it is to provide that if you're careful give credit where credit is due and to say

you're a net force for good if you want to be do you believe you're a net force for good if you want to be. Did you believe you're a net force? Net? Yes. In all the details? Probably not.

You know, no one's perfect. So people make their mistakes as they stumble uphill. It's really sad. It's like sad to think about that people don't have like hardly. mean there's some people that don't have any encouragement yeah that's uh that's brutal i don't usually say that things like make me sad but the sound of that even makes me sad like that just sucks but it is like it is a reality i don't. I think, you know, social media is something that has allowed people to express so many different ideas and so many different things to each other that maybe we weren't sharing before. Things get shared a lot faster. Yeah.

And a lot of people are sharing, you know, maybe men shouldn't have shared, you know, how sad we are, how sad they are. Maybe it would make, I don't know. It's hard to say, like, are we better off with some of those suppressed feelings? Like, as a parent, you know, I didn't really see my dad cry. I think, you know, I saw him cry like twice, I think. Maybe even just once, I guess. I saw him cry like,, I think, maybe even once, I guess. I saw him cry like – I've seen him cry twice. He cried when my brother died and he cried when my mother died.

And like more recently, because he's older, he gets a pass because I'm just thinking like maybe testosterone levels have gone down and estrogen is starting to take over. So – He gets a pass. Yeah, yeah. It's easier to be emotional when you're 75 you know than than when you're in your 30s and 40s and stuff but yeah i don't really remember um seeing him cry when i was young but i think even if i did see him cry

i don't think it would have made me think any less of him um i think the things that uh made me rethink the way that he acted was mainly just seeing anger and he wasn't an anger i hope i'm not painting the wrong picture here he wasn't an angry guy but every once in a while i'd be frustrated and i would see the anger result in something that was like that's not great like i don't want to do that. Because I don't, I just, I'm like half scared of like confrontation and I don't like loud shit. I don't, you know, if people are going to like fight in the street or some shit, like I don't like any of that stuff. I hate it. I'd rather just not be, I'd rather not, I'd just rather not happen, you know. So, yeah, that kind of stuff.

So, yeah, that kind of stuff I always kind of looked at like when I'm older, I'm going to see if I could maybe do something different with that energy, you know? Let me ask you guys this. Let me ask you guys this. you know, you're paying attention to what your dads would do. When you were maybe in your teenage years, your 20s, did you actively model things after what you saw your fathers do? Or do you feel like it was a more passive thing? I ask this question because, like, obviously, it was my mom. Like, my dad was there for a little bit. It was my mom.

My mom, like, put me on teams, so I i had coaches i had teachers who i looked up to um fucking hell like i think there's a reason why i watched so much dragon ball z and like cartoons with male protagonists because there was probably an aspect of me that was just like looking for that and i know there was right obviously i read the Bible a lot so like my ideas growing up of men were always these idealistic things and I took some of that but when I got into my early 20s and I started thinking about like my reactions to things and the way I handled things there was always I was I was super cold in my early 20s I'd'd never showed shit. And I had to like learn to model the type of ideal that I thought I wanted to be in the back of my head. I didn't necessarily have a model. So I'm just curious from you guys.

Have you ever thought of that? Have you looked at that or paid attention to that? I think it's almost like automatic. I think I followed in my dad's footsteps quite a bit. I always admired my dad and my grandfather and just always thought it was cool how both of them were so into family. And both of them were so – both of them weren't afraid to have – to show some emotion here and there. Not necessarily like crying again. Like I just haven't seen a lot of crying.

But I remember seeing my grandfather kiss my grandmother. I remember seeing my dad. My dad would like smooch my mom on the couch. Like I remember him like doing that. Like he would get down on his knees and he'd like – my mom would be like lying on the couch and he would like tickle her or mess with her like i remember that from when i was a kid i always thought that's like you know i wasn't like the kid that thought it was gross you know i'm like oh you guys are gross i always thought it was like adorable i'm like that's kind of cute and i'm like my dad you know he's one minute he's like yelling at me to do something the next minute

he's like doing that that's got game yeah yeah and my dad's always was always very happy too and i always admired that and my grandfather was always very happy both of them uh they not only like loved being happy but they would go out of their way to try to figure out how to make something happy and fun uh whether it be like trying to play a game or just organized people getting together. So those were things that I saw at a young age that I wanted to do. But having said that, I wanted to do everything else the opposite of my dad. I saw my dad in a suit and tie every day, and I'm like, I ain't doing that. Whatever that is, I'm not doing that.

You know, he's in a suit and tie every day, and he's gone like seems really early in the morning. And then he's not back until really late, and then we eat eat dinner together and then he does the same thing the next day i'm like i ain't doing that shit whatever that's called yeah and he would say it's called work like what but yeah everything else kind of ended up modeling a lot of it i guess it is andrew i know you're about to get to what you said but like the funny thing is uh what you said there like from a very early age one thing is like I told myself that I didn't want to because I knew my dad for a period when I was younger and visited him a few weekends and I stopped seeing him when I was a teenager. But one thing I always told myself is because I told myself I wanted to be the opposite. Right. So I had this ideal and the ideal was opposite of many aspects of he had.

And he don't get, like, one thing about my dad is that, like, we talk every now and then via WhatsApp. He lives in Nigeria. He's a very smart individual. He was a very funny guy. But there's, I guess, certain things that I just knew that I didn't want to be. Like, I didn't want to deal with divorce.

I didn't want to be in a relationship where I mistreated somebody. Like, there are these things where I was just like, I won't be that because I saw what it caused. But I also think there's a negative aspect to that because there are many things about him that are pretty good. But my early years, there was a lot of resentment so it it when i look at how i was in my early 20s there's a lot of things that were just like damn i i shouldn't have like like even in in relationships in my early 20s there are certain things that i dealt with that i was just like yo as a man that's not something you should deal with in a relationship but because i was so like i'm not going to be like my dad and leave a woman or this or that

i dealt with a lot of stupidity because of my over commitment to being such a good guy see what i mean so it's it's it's interesting yeah i just remember um my dad like never taking a day off of work. He could be super sick, throwing up on his way out. Like, nope, I'll be back. I'm fine. And I just remember almost being jealous of that because I'd be like, dude, I don't have that. Like, shit, of all the things that maybe might have gotten passed down, I didn't get that at all.

Like, I stubbed my toe, don't even want to go to school. Yeah, I look for any excuse to get out of school. It was like shit anything but mondays like please no like i did not want to work on anything but it's because he worked he found what he was passionate about yeah and then so like later on once i you know got into photography and stuff i was just like oh now it makes sense you know he he never he never took a day off because he loved to do it. And it wasn't, I mean, yes, it was work and he would get beat up and, you know, like his body would get banged up and it still is to this day. And the pay was not, like, it was crazy. Like learning, like, he's like, yeah, I never really made that much money. I'm like, what?

Like, then why did you work so hard? And it's because he loved it. Yeah. You know, and so like when I was a kid, I just remember being like being like shit if i can be like a quarter of that like that'd be great and so that's just something that like you know i guess passively or i recognized it but i never thought i'd actually be that and then now like once i have had an opportunity it was like oh shit like like yeah let's let's open up the floodgates like let's keep going you know and so like now i think that's that's probably where i got my work ethic from yeah uh back to the uh opposite thing i

i remember it was uh set on chris williamson's show he um i don't remember what guest he had on there but they talked about the opposite or maybe you know it was the first time he was on rogan okay when he talked about it and he talked about like an opposite hero and i thought that was really interesting because my brother was that way you know just watching uh what he did and you know he had drug addiction and stuff and just watching all that i was like it's some of the other stuff he did was cool i was like i like a lot of that stuff but um i want to be the opposite in a bunch of other ways because what he's doing just seems to be destructive for him seems to hurt the family it just it's just a lot and i don't know how much control he had over he had mental illness along with drug addiction so i don't think he was

actively like uh i don't think he i don't think anybody wants to be that way i think some sometimes people just unfortunately end up that way. But for me to see that at a young age, it had a big impact on me. And I was just like, I want to try to figure out to avoid that whatever way I can. So drugs, don't fuck with them. Maybe when you get older, you can learn more about them or something. But for now, since you don't know shit about them, don't go anywhere near them. At this point, nasal breathing while you're asleep is no longer something that just us bros do.

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having a parent or that, that made some bad decisions. You could look at that as negative, or that could be something that ends up being a positive for you if you don't repeat those actions. Because a lot of people talk about like the, Andrew, you mentioned like the generational repetition of certain types of actions or habits. But if you saw that those habits or those actions had a negative outcome for that individual, you can actively tell yourself and actively make the decision not to do that thing you know what i mean it's it's it's a it's an easy decision to make rather than just saying oh this bad thing happened to me or this bad person happened it's like well just make the

opposite decision of what they've done move in that direction yeah it makes something else better bigger than whatever it was that caused you to feel that way. That's how I look at it. Like, is my son's future way more important than whatever it is I'm dealing with? It's like, yeah, absolutely. Now you have something, um, I don't want to say reward, but like, um, you know, it's, it's almost like a, Oh, like a, like a 30 day challenge to lose weight. It's like, okay, that's cool. But like, what if you, you know, just, this is now your lifestyle and you're never going gonna have to worry about like a hospital bill or something it's like oh shit like this is way bigger than what i thought it was it does appear like uh i know

people have talked about how in a lifetime we used to maybe only know approximately 150 people and now you you know just have so much interaction um i. I wonder in the course of a day, the emotions that we go through are probably way faster and way more rampant than ever before. And I think things like social media can, they can for some people cause some sadness, cause some loneliness, make people feel isolated.

They don't have to. It doesn't have to always result in that but i think that i think it's normal to see an image and to hear a dialogue and then be moved by that image and by that dialogue and to have it happen over and over again by scrolling whether it's uh happy or sad or mad or, Oh look, these, these cute little puppies on here. Oh my God, this, I can't believe this guy's, you know, trying to run for president. And you go to the next thing and it's like, Oh, I can't believe that guy thinks that the guy's an asshole. And then the next thing is puppies again, or kind of go back and forth between seeing all these different things that,

um, almost like your own thoughts, you know know you don't always have control over the thought that randomly hits you in the shower or you don't have a thought like if i say giant pink dildo you automatically have to think about the giant pink dildo at least for a second spikes for some reason mine had spikes yours has spikes how many oh a bunch probably ribbed but you don't always have you don't have always have control and when you're scrolling, you know, it's not like you. OK, we have like an algorithm or some something or someone is trying to hit us with certain messages. We don't have control over what that next one is. And you're while you might want to interpret everything as being like fun or happy or keeping you in a good mood. want to interpret everything as being like fun or happy or keeping you in a good mood. There's probably some stuff that's coming across that's making you not feel so great.

And so I think in this time and this day and age is really more important than ever to try to really double down on the things that you think make you feel good. And you have to really, I think it's important that people learn and they cut out and carve out a little bit of time to be with themselves. And they learn how to be with themselves and they learn how when they're by them, just because they're by themselves and just because there's not a lot of noise and a lot of shit going on, doesn't mean that you're, that doesn't mean you have to be lonely in that moment. doesn't mean you have to be lonely in that moment. And instead, maybe you can choose a walk. Maybe you can choose to go outside and just sit in a chair and relax, get some sunlight. You can go on a run, go on a bike, do some exercise. They say that people that feel really lonely when they're by themselves, it's because they're in bad company. So try to be in good company. Try to figure out how can you make yourself feel good?

How can you feel better? And the way I do it is I just fill in. I stuff all my emotions down all the time. I suppress them, my sadness, my madness. And I just keep training and training and training and training i learned this from david goggins so let's see if we can bring up this uh i'm kidding about that but let's even bring up this clip from david goggins even though it's absolutely insane how much the guy trains um i think trying to find some solidarity in uh being by yourself a little

bit can be really beneficial for a lot of people. So what's your training entail? Well, since I have a full-time job, I get up about 3 o'clock, 3.30 in the morning, and I work out until about 8, and I try to be at work. I go to work from about 8 until about 6 o'clock, and then I bike back home. So I'm on the bike anywhere from 4 to 8 hours a day. And if I'm running, I'm running anywhere between 100 to 150 miles a week. So that's basically what I do. I also hit the weights about 3 or 4 times a week because it's important and also we train

also. But I didn't start doing this until about November 2005. I used to weigh 290 pounds And I just started this 2005 so now you kind of addicted to it away To raise money for a foundation so this is why I Addicted huh I Mean if we're gonna be real though though it's like if there's anything it's it's probably not the worst to be addicted to making your body feel good but it is kind of funny how like someone who does as much as that or even someone like yourself or even you andrew

if you tell somebody like what you do in terms of exercise or what you do to, you know, your nutrition, they're just going to automatically give you the thing. Oh, so why are you so addicted to it or why do you feel? So you don't like to have fun, do you? Yeah, why don't you like to have fun? And it's like these things allow us to feel good pretty much all the time, right? These outlets. I think there's, as I was saying, I think there's a huge difference between mental health and mental illness. Some of these things we are, you know,

doing because we recognize that it brushes up against it. It hygienes our mental health. It's hygiene for our mental health. And I really am a huge believer that, and I'm hearing more people talk about this recently, but I'm a huge believer that you get to the mental side of things through the physical and the physical side of things through the mental. And I think that that's just the way the body works. And I think that it has to be, your body has to be taxed in some way. You have to, there's just no free lunch. You guys both have pets as well. And you guys know that your dog needs to be walked man your dog it has your dog has to be active and it's like abusive to not have the dog get an

activity like it kind of is it's like sad you know the dog the dog isn't the same dog anymore if it doesn't get its steps in if it doesn't get its steps in, if it doesn't get its activity in. And a human being, like as much as we want to try to pretend that we're not animals or animalistic, we are, you know, we, you know, we just try to cover it up as much as we can so that we don't seem weird or smell weird or, or act too, too animalistic in certain situations. But I think it's just, it's part of our nature. It's part of like what we are and who we are. And I think that, you know,

you have to have a certain amount of movement every single day and getting that movement, I personally believe really helps you to stay mentally stable and mentally strong. Mm-hmm. I noticed that easily with myself. I think everybody, if you kind of pay attention to the days where you do feel the best

and maybe the days where you're not feeling altogether, there might also be kind of like a corollary thing to how much you manage to move or how much sun you manage to get, right? Because I know that for a fact, and that's why the habit of physical activity has been such a staple for me since I've been a teenager. Because I always notice whenever something falls off or whenever I don't do the things I need to do physically, I start to feel a bit of a cloud mentally.

And then I deal with that cloud physically. And then the cloud goes away. It's just – but – and some people I've seen, especially on social media – and it's a thing that I see a lot of women comment when guys are talking about this because I understand that. It's like some guys say the gym is my therapy, this and that. But for some people, it very well can be your therapy. I hate it. It's so fucking cringy. It's so fucking cringy. Oh, this jujitsu is my therapy.

But I can say I feel really good after it and I feel really clear-headed. Same thing when I get like my gym session in. The difference though for you versus someone that's like maybe 19 or something like that, you versus someone that's like maybe 19 or something like that um at least it appears that you work through your other stuff outside of just going to jujitsu and just like raging on people in jujitsu true you're not just going to the gym and you're not just like lifting like an animal and you're not going to jujitsu and killing everybody. You are doing those things in some ways, but you're also reading books. You're also listening to podcasts.

You're further developing yourself in a bunch of different ways at the same time. And yes, and all of us are here too. Like the gym and jujitsu isn't the only thing we use for our mental health. But at the same time, I would say it's a huge part of it. If that wasn't there, I'm going to speak for myself. If I didn't have physical exercise as far as the gym or if I didn't have something like jujitsu, I know that my mental health would not be as good as it currently is. It wouldn't be, right? that's why it's such a staple for me because it does then allow me to deal with the other things i need to deal with in a much better healthier fashion in a much much less aggressive fashion than maybe i would if i didn't have those types of outlets and when i say jujitsu as an outlet i

am not going to jujitsu and taking out rage and anger on people i'm not hurting people at jujitsu but physically it is an outlet a little pile of people in the corner that didn't seem a beat to death but it's a great physical outlet and on the other side of things it's a it's a great community type of thing where it's like you go you roll with people you talk with people you hang out with people it's like it's a it's an it's a great form of community too so i'm getting a double whammy of health right there yeah one of the best things you can do if you're bummed or not feeling great about a day is to be around other people oh yeah because like i don't know maybe this one guy over here maybe he annoys you and you're like oh fuck my day already sucks now

i gotta run into him but then you run into the other guy that brings you up and the two guys say hey let's do this together and you're like all right fuck it and you do it half-heartedly and next thing you know you're in it yeah Next thing you know, you're totally fine. It's almost like in that moment you were bipolar. You were not doing great one moment, and next minute, for some reason, you're totally fine. Yeah, when you mentioned the memes and stuff about therapy, there's some really good ones. But yeah, dudes will do X, Y, and z when they could just go to therapy it's like they will you know go to the gym they'll go get choked out in jiu-jitsu or whatever instead of just going to therapy maybe that's better but what i was going to ask you

guys is um what about like a like a mental win like let's say i don't know somebody at their job they get a huge promotion they get something like whatever it may be like they just finished all their work for the day and they feel really, really good. That's a form of like a high or like accomplishments. There we go. How does that stack up to like the physical side of things, like the physical wins throughout the day versus like, yeah, like getting stuff accomplished? Accomplishment feels great. I think it can rival the feel of doing something physically.

I think within the physical, sometimes there's accomplishment too, where you did something new or you did something slightly different or you did something slightly better than last time. But getting praise from somebody else and getting praise from a mentor or someone at work, um, as Jordan Peterson was saying, like, fuck man, get an encouragement. Having someone tell you that you did a great job or they're super proud of you or excited for you. It's like, man, having someone tell you that they're proud of you is like, that's unbelievable sometimes. So those things can, uh, those things are really neat cause they can kind of – they can last for a little while. Like that's something that you get a raise at work and they make a big deal and they tell everybody else like, hey, this guy is doing such a good job.

This is what we're looking for. And you get a bump in pay and everything. Like you might feel really good about that for like a couple of weeks. You might feel really good about it for a long time. Yeah. really good about that for like a couple of weeks might feel really good about it for a long time yeah yeah no but like so yeah i guess that answers the question like you know it can be therapeutic also right but you probably aren't going to see those as often as you would as hitting the gym yeah i just think i agree with and seem like the balance of my uh mentality and the balance of my mentality and the balance of my mental health would be way harder for me to juggle if I wasn't like so physically active. Being physically active, you know, it gives you something to do.

You know, they talk about when someone has like a lot of anxiety when someone's real anxious they move around a lot like they've just they talk they talk with their hands they move around a lot what are they trying to do trying to work it out you know and that's why we work out you know an interesting thing that kind of just hit me andrew is um it's kind of like from from what you were just saying what when it comes to like physical side of things, whether it's the gym, running, jiu-jitsu, these are all artificial wins. When you lift a little bit heavier weight or do one extra rep, it's an artificial win. It's a challenge that you made for yourself on a daily basis, but it's still a win. a daily basis, but it's still a win, right? Whereas these things on the outside where it's like, oh, I got a win at work or this new company is the company I'm working with or this or that,

these are wins, but these are wins that they're a culmination of the work that you've managed to put in over a period of time, but it's not like they happen every single day. So if you don't have any things that you're doing artificially for yourself to give you wins, then you're always waiting for a win from coming from an outside telling you you've done something good rather than you doing something that's like, I fucking did that. And it doesn't even need to be super physical.

I know we talk about this stuff because we fucking love it and it makes us feel good. But think about something like starting something creative like guitar or an instrument or, fuck, you know, you started some type of new book, right? And you got another chapter done or you learned something new, right? These are all wins that you're giving yourself to help you feel better about yourself. You're getting smarter.

You're getting stronger. You're getting better at something. And these are all things within your control, not your boss telling you you did something great. As good as that feels, a friend or a boss, yeah, but when you know you did that, that feels really good. Yeah, that's something I definitely didn't do a lot of before I came to super training. So I was always waiting for somebody else to tell me I'm doing a good job or I'm being a good boy. else to to tell me i'm doing a good job or i'm being a good boy but but setting up those those they yes they are made up so you're gonna get a made-up medal for it but i think that's super important and i i wish i did that you know a younger version of myself did more of that you know because i never rewarded myself for anything because i'm like oh great i you know went to work again today like it's like i don't know i could have made something fun out of it. Or even like, you know, so many people are trying

to stick to their nutrition. When you set a goal, as far as that's concerned, and you have a good day, you won, right? You don't, you won. Yeah. And then that's a good thing. Now, can you win consistently? Because then that adds up to as far as you feeling better yeah you won instead of oh i didn't lose the amount of weight i wanted yeah um i saw a clip and it was uh from the guy that i sent you who does those uh really crazy mobility drills um he does like that dragon tail thing or some shit that he does and does all this wild stuff. But anyway, this guy explains stuff. He took these – he kept like filling up stuff with water.

And he said instead of – just basically instead of having a minimum, have a maximum each day. Like you're only allowing yourself – like you have like a maximum amount of stuff to do in a day if he said if you give yourself like a minimum and you don't you don't do you don't even do the minimum you feel like but he has like a ceiling on like how much work that he doesn't want to do for the day so he's coming from it from a slightly different angle um so like the maximum amount of exercise in a day would be that you go to the gym uh and you went to jujitsu for the day but if he can even fill that cup up at all you know as long he he just doesn't want to go over the maximum well yeah it's that guy okay it's but see if you can find see if you can find

yeah maybe it's that yeah there you go yeah this guy's great i just saw him the other day too this guy's incredible like his mobility is stupid he other day, too. This guy's incredible. His mobility is stupid. He moves so well. What the fuck? He's like talking as he's doing these movements. I'm like, oh, my God. I wouldn't be able to breathe. Where's the sound? Son of a bitch.

Sorry. It's all right. Where is it? Oh, you fucker. Yeah, this is a cool analogy. And then, like, whatever he's pouring, I'm like, is he going to make something? Is he going to make coffee? What's going on here? What's that guy's name? John Youant. And we need to do at least X amount of sets of X amount of exercises. Now, holding ourselves to this kind of standard is admirable.

But it pays to keep in mind that we don't directly benefit from our standards. We benefit from our actions. And if our standard for a good enough workout gets in the way of us working out on a day, then it's a bad standard on that day. Unfortunately, we tend not to blame our standards. Instead, we blame ourselves, which honestly doesn't seem that productive. On those days, I flip the script.

Instead of giving myself a minimum of work to do, I give myself a maximum. A time, a number of sets, a number of reps, a number of exercises that I'm not allowed to exceed. So why do this? Well, giving yourself a maximum of, say, time or exercises makes it easier to start the workout because you know you have more opportunities to stop when you need to. More opportunities to stop. That's fucking cool. That's what I did with running.

It's huge help. So people that are looking to try to get started with running, give yourself an opportunity to stop. Give yourself permission to stop um let's say you want to just be like okay i want to actually you know get like two miles in today two miles whatever way you can do it you don't need to run the entire time maybe you walk and jog back and forth give yourself an opportunity to stop tie your shoes drink some water like just really take your time and if you if you say i'm going to give myself an hour to go two miles that's like so much time that's so much time for you to for you to accomplish something like that so you'll have

you'll be able to check that off the list rather than um it being like a negative where you didn't go and do anything for the day i got nothing added at that i i want to say though his content's really cool because he does the opposite approach to what most people do in terms of content he has no music in the background thank goodness has space between every single sentence and he just speaks and it's just it's refreshing so well he does so well like good job john yeah knowing my dumb ass though like using like say the two mile thing i'd like this is the maximum if i don't hit the maximum i'm gonna be like i failed i picked the wrong maximum today i should have picked a whatever different so i would have to tinker with that a little bit the thing that i

like the thing that i don't think we realize is how much a little bit each day does add up. And we've talked about the microdosing thing so much. But if people start to put it into practice, they'd realize how fast certain things will start. You'll start to make progress with certain things. Like, you know, if you're someone who's trying to get better at pull-ups or dips or something, rather than it being something that you do two to three times a week and you have your multiple sets. If you had something where you could just hit three a day,

hit four a day, you'd realize, well, wow, you're getting really good at this really quickly by just attacking it one minute a day or doing one or two sets each day. Like, it's crazy, but it really doesn't take as much as we think. But the way most most of us set things up is we have like our 50 minutes 90 minutes in the gym this and that and and then when you fall off you fall off because you can't maintain that 90 minutes so it's it's the micro

dosing concept right there i was just talking with uh jesse burdick and he was mentioning how people um and they won't go into their sauna because it's not above 160. They won't go into their cold plunge. It's not cold enough or they don't have access and they – I don't have a cold plunge, so I'm not going to even do it. I'm not even going to have cold therapy in the shower. It's those kinds of mentalities that could really kind of unravel stuff and then you just don't end up with any. You don't end up with any of the work. Um, I can't spend, they, somebody said 35 minutes in the sun. I don't have 35 minutes. I only got three minutes. I'm not going to do it at all. The three minutes

still could be really beneficial. I've been really digging the cold plunge again. And, uh, you know, the cold plunge is something that I think you can get addicted to because of the dopamine and everything. And I really enjoy it. I love the way that it makes me feel. Um, but it's just not always for me, it just doesn't always seem like it's in the cards for me to do it every day. I don't take it as a loss when I don't do it. But for today I was like, you know what? It's pretty fucking cold out and the sun's not even really out yet. So I went outside and I was cold outside while the sun was not even really out yet so i went outside and i was cold outside while the sun was coming out went back inside grabbed a coffee went back outside i'm just in my undies out there in my front yard probably looking like a weirdo like i was dealing with

the towel you knew i'm sorry guys yeah. Yeah, you can show that clip. I got to show you guys this. Go on his page. It's a towel. Oh, okay. Yep, my towel flipping. When I saw that, I was like, Mark, you really fell asleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep. I've lost it. It's over with. But any amount, you know, any amount is some amount. This is the way I dry off after I go on the cold plunge. Yeah. I'm sorry for the years that I just made bleed. Oh God.

Look at that ass. Hey, now you're missing the voiceover though, dude. My little dog. My little puppy dog out there with me today. Oh, Daisy's out there running around with you in the towel.

Yeah. Oh God. This actually, I don't know why, but the towels the science behind it it's a voiceover voiceover yeah with music and everything we had to make it uh theatrical i think you guys could do this with your gi beat up your geek i go outside

i do squats last the mohicans And I fight against this giant beach towel all while in the sunlight. This is to help warm me back up after getting freezing freaking cold in the cold plunge. This is my way of thawing out. The reason why I do this, the science behind it is because it makes me feel really fucking good that's why i do it not only does it make me feel good but it helps me to feel awesome for about five or six hours afterwards a power that i've never felt before from any supplement or any other thing i've ever taken or done catch you guys later still on midget hell yeah so so that's actually the you know what you said at the end there is pretty wild because you've used a lot of supplements you used a lot of stuff

and getting in the cold and doing that that it doesn't compare other things compared to that it's amazing i just think it's like uh it's something that you have no choice, but to deal with it. Yeah. And I think when I think about exercising, like you can kind of like, you can kind of dog it. Like you don't have to always go so hard. Um,

you can work out the way that most people work out today where they're not really lifting anything. You can like drag it, drag a sled, do some knees over toes stuff stuff do some man bun stuff smell some incense play some weird music some ropes yeah and you can head on out right but when it comes to the cold it's something you have to deal with it probably you know i don't have nearly as much experience as you guys with jujitsu but probably very similar to like you know this is real right now like this this shit really hurts you know this guy is giving me this much fucking pressure i'm in a lot of trouble to me the cold

plunge is like just an immediate thing that you have no you have uh you don't really have control over you can control how you react to it you can control how you react to it. You can control how you react to that water from like a standpoint of how much noise you make, how much breathing you do. But I mean, unless you're like Wim Hof, unless you have a lot of experience with it, the cold's going to be the cold and it's going to make you feel cold.

You know, you hear Rogan recently, he was like on a podcast. He's like, I'm sorry, I just got out of the cold plunge. And he's like, I'm still shivering. So if I sound weird right now, he's like i'm sorry i just got out of the cold plunge and he's like i'm still shivering so if i sound weird right now it's because i'm still freaking cold so it makes you cold yeah if you guys guys cold plunges is not a joke it feels amazing it is a challenge to get into it every day but it feels good so again you could take a cold shower you will still feel the benefits of the cold but if you want to get yourself a cold plunge, there's some stuff down below. They have a new plunge that is one unit without a chiller.

So it's pretty dope. It doesn't take up much space, but if you want a cold plunge, get yourself a cold plunge. I like what you're sipping on. That stuff's pretty good from Chris Williamson and James Smith. They did a great job. They made kind of like, I guess you'd say like an energy drink. It's a nootropic drink. It has some caffeine in it,

but it has this thing called cognizant, rhodiola, panic, panics, L-theanine, and 120 milligrams of caffeine. Tastes good. Feels good.

There you go. That's all the time we got for today, folks. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.