Morbid - Episode 265: Tragedy & True Crime at the Jean Harlow House

Episode Date: September 23, 2021

Some say the Jean Harlow house where she lived with her husband Paul Bern is one of the most haunted homes in America. The house certainly saw its fair share of tragedy and deaths which we’ll cover in this episode. You might be shocked to find out the house even has a connection to the Manson family! Fate Article mentioned at the end of the episode As always, thank you to our sponsors: Better Help: Visit betterhelp.com/morbid and break the cycle Embr: Listeners can get $50 off by going to embrwave.com/morbid Norton Life Lock: Save 25% or more off your first year of Norton three sixty with LifeLock at Norton.com/MORBID  Modern Fertility: Right now, Modern Fertility is offering our listeners $20 off the test when you go to ModernFertility.com/morbid Hello Fresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/morbid14 and use code morbid14 for up to 14 free meals, including free shipping! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hey, weirdos, I'm Alena. I'm Ash. And this is morbid. Hello. We're here. It's quite a week. Oh man. Oh, we're here. You saw our Instagram post or Twitter post. You know that every single one of Elena's home, home, every single one of Elena's kids are homesick.

Yeah. We are nine days into kindergarten. Yeah. Going strong so far. We're killing it, which I had a feeling because, you know, we have a pandemic baby. Our youngest is a pandemic baby, so her immune system has not been exposed to everything that our twins immune systems were exposed to it by two years old. So we had a feeling in our doctor and told us, you know, this is going gonna be happening with pandemic babies. So if you have one like to be aware, especially if you have older siblings there, they might be fine going to school and getting and you know, picking something up like RSV, which is a thing that's out there now.

It's a respiratory virus. And they'll bring it home. And they might not have any symptoms because there are mean systems might be good enough to just like chill it out. Right. But they'll pass it to that pandemic baby because that pandemic baby can't handle it. And then that pandemic baby will pass it back to them in a different form if you don't

quarantine them away from each other. Yay. Which is what we did. So they brought it home, passed it to pandemic baby and the pandemic baby gave it right back to them. And now it's just a countdown of when they pass it to us. Which I know I'm going to be the last to get it, because I make sure everybody else is good

and then my body allows me to get it. Usually I like stick around and I play the iPad and I like touch the things. Today I'm just like not in a vibe to get sick. So after this recording I might be dipping. Yeah, she's gonna get the hell out of here. I think I'm just gonna run out of here because that last illness with some lice all spray.

Yeah, I'm literally just gonna spray a trail of lice all behind me. Yeah, it's kids, I mean, kids, especially when they're going back to school, it's a real, it's a real game of like roulette here. We just don't know what we're gonna get on any given day. So fun. I again, it could be so much worse. So I will take everybody being

just having a nasty clutch over anything else. So we're we're get through it. We have lots of pd. LA lots of popsicles lots of iPad time, which is something they don't usually get so they're like hell yeah they're living your best life with this iPad time. They're very excited. Um, and yeah, lots of snuggles so that I get nice and sick. But yeah, so that's why we're, uh, I know this first episode of the week is like really late in the week. It wasn't meant to be that way. It just wow. No guys. Every time we try to say like, oh my god, we're getting in on a schedule. Life's like, no, you're not. Life just kicks us in the house. Life's like so. So we're just gonna maintain that we are definitely going

to try and just, yeah, we'll see what that can happen. Tuesday's and Fridays, man, it's gonna happen at seven point. Because this week was like, nah, I love that. This is the first of the weekend. It's Thursday. We just kept you waiting and just a painting. This is a good one, you're gonna enjoy it. So it was worth the wait. And we didn't want to make you wait, so we apologize for that. Not at all. This is a good one. You're going to enjoy it. So it was worth the wait.

And we didn't want to make you wait. So we apologize for that. Not at all. It really became an issue. So hopefully everybody will be feeling better. Pandemic babies are already feeling better by this time. Not really. It just wilds out every day.

She's so crazy that I think she just scared the others. And it was like, I think I'm actually good. I actually don't want to be in here. But yeah, so I think everybody's gonna be good next couple of days. So hopefully, you know, knock on wood,

we'll all be on the mend. And I can handle a cold, so. And I can handle a cold. I can handle whatever you throw at me, babies. So, but I think before we get into our case, which I'm excited about, because it's a Nash centric, spooky case, we just wanted to mention, you know, there's not a ton of updates in the Gabby Petito case. It's just one we've been following really closely, just it kind of touched us personally,

because people are like sharing this photo that she had posted on Instagram where she had tagged us in it and said she was listening to us and it was a few weeks ago. So I think that just kind of like really, it's stuck with us a little more than usual. Just like, I don't know. I keep thinking about it and I keep thinking about it. Yeah, it's just like, it's really like changed a lot of my perspective on a lot of things. But I think the only update that we have right now, because we don't want to, we're not

going to cover Gabby right now. We want to let the case kind of... It's not even, we don't even know what the conclusion of this whole thing will be. Hopefully, it'll be a good conclusion in the end that will get justice for her. But we don't know. We don't know what's gonna happen. So we're not gonna cover it right now. We wanna let it pan out.

And I think the only thing that's really been a solid update, because we don't wanna share any rumors, there are a ton of them. Which is like really frustrating. Yeah, it's, and I know how it happens. I know people, a lot of people mean well, a lot of people just want to solve So like I get it

But you just got to think about you know her family share confirmed things if you can make sure you confirm things before you Share them then that's great share as much as you can but just make sure it's confirmed because we don't want to spread stuff That's false, you know like people seeing him and all that. But they haven't found Brian. Hopefully they find him, but they did confirm, unfortunately, that the body that they found was Gabby Petito, and they did confirm that it's on the side. We don't know anything more than that,

but we just, like our hearts go out to her family and friends, like that's horrific. And it really felt like such a gut punch when that came out. I was like, oh, it's like a lot of shit. Because they're wise. Some kind of hope, like, I had hope. And, you know, there's, like, oh, it just,

it bumps me out. But if you guys are looking to follow somebody who's, like, on scene at the Laundry House, 24-7. Literally. And every single minute. Is only reporting facts and is trying to you know kind of like squish rumors as they come in. I've been following Brian Enten. He's a correspondent for News Nation now and if you look on Twitter, he's

at Brian Enten and it's B-R-I-A-N-E-N-T-I-N. He's been going live from their house. He made friends with their neighbors. He's been going live from their house. He made friends with their neighbors, so he's been able to hang out on the neighbors lawn and really follow this whole thing. He's been on the reserve looking for Brian. He's a really good person to follow in my opinion. He's only giving you the facts and that's it.

Oh yeah. Every single morning that I wake up, I immediately, when I look at my phone, go to his Twitter and refresh it to see if there's anything. Yeah, just to see if he's seen anything, heard anything, he'll let you know, he was on scene when, you know, they were taken out of their house and everything his parents. So if you're looking to, you know, follow it that way, he's a good guy to do it because you're really only getting at facts. And I think that's what everybody needs right now. Yeah. what everybody needs right now. So again, we're like thinking about Gabby's family

and make sure you are also, we gotta put this energy into like every missing person's case that we come across. When you see one, if someone's sharing it on Twitter, something's shared out. Take the time to share it. Yeah, share it out. Take the time to look into it.

Because as we see, sharing stuff makes a difference. And absolutely, it makes a difference in this case. So it's like, we gotta to try to put in it. And you know what? I think we're all learning that right now that we need to be more proactive with this stuff. So everybody try to get there with us. Yeah.

Well, we're all learning together how to be better. Yeah, it's actually. Colin, don't call out. Yeah. But also just, you know, be kind to each other. Yeah. It just makes everything nicer. It's much easier to be kind than it is to be not kind. Yeah, it just takes more energy.

So everybody just high five each other virtually because it's still a pandemic. Exactly. A little bump. But yeah, so I just wanted to put that out there before we get into the case, but. Yeah, very important. Well, I think just because everything felt so heavy

with the search for Gabby and I was following it so intently, I was like, I need to do something that's true crime-esque, but also a little bit haunted, also a little bit old Hollywood. Cause I am. And it is yesterday was the first day of fall. So spooky season is here. Let's see it. Spooky. And of course, you're still gonna get true day of fall. So spooky season is here. Let's see it.

Let's get spooky. And of course, you're still going to get a true crime out of here during spooky season. We just like during spooky season, we like to sprinkle it a little more with spooky stuff. Yeah, you know, like sometimes we sprinkle it throughout the year and then it gets a little heavy-handed. Yeah, the spooky season.

It's because it's got a, like we just throw a dash in in the middle of the year, but now we might just really you know, you take that little cap off by like maybe my ex and maybe my not just and you just kind of like there it goes. Yeah, that's all. Here we are. So Gene Harlow, have you ever heard of her? No, who's that?

Gene. He was an actress in the late 1920s and early 30s. Yes, she was. And I actually used to have a picture of her hanging in my bathroom, fun fact. I love that. I love to that photo. It's a good photo.

I am going to hang it up in my bathroom again, but it fell down and we had to get a new frame for it. Oh, yeah. Which is kind of weird, because it actually fell down recently. I guess. Now, her career was super short-lived, because she passed away when she was only 26 years old.

Man, isn't that nuts? I didn't realize that. I didn't either. But before we get into how she died and her legacy and everything like that, let's talk about her life. What if you were trafficked into a cult over shot nine times, or fell in love with a vampire, or went into a minor surgery and woke up one week later,

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Darryl! So she was actually born Harleen Harlow Carpenter. On March Really? Yes. Harleen Harlow? Harleen Harlow Carpenter. Damn. Because her mother's made a name as Harlow and her father's last nameyn Carpender. Because her mother's made a name as Harle

and her father's last name is Carpender. Oh, cool. Yeah. And she was born on March 3rd, 1911 to parents Montclair Carpender and Jean Poe Carpender. Hell yeah. And some people have alleged that maybe she's related to Edgar Allan Poe.

Never been confirmed. Might have been a little bit of a publicity stunt, but worth mentioning. Oh, well, here I go into antresacadensester.com to try to do to connect those dots. That would be crazy. But she was born in Kansas City, Missouri. Now, the marriage between Jean Senior, which it's confusing because her name is Jean, the woman that we're talking about, oh yeah, and her mother's name is Jean. Oh yeah. So I think I call her like Mama Jean, Jean Seymour.

Mama Jean. And then I think I call for like a little bit of this Jean-Junior and Little Jean. Yeah, there you go. Just follow along, okay. Yeah, you'll get it. You'll be there. We want to understand this.

Yeah. But the marriage between Jean Seymour and Montclair was, it was actually an arranged one. Oh. Yeah, because I mean, it was like, I was gonna say, it was like what? It was probably like the lady, 1800s, but I got, I was gonna say it was like one. It was probably the lady, 1800s mother. Yeah, exactly.

And it seemed like it was strictly business, not super lovey-dovey at all. And actually when Jean Jr. was only 11 years old, her mother decided to divorce her father. Wow. And she really didn't let Jean see much of him after that. And it was sad because Jean liked her father, loved her father, and there was nothing really happened between them. It was just kind of like,

they got divorced and he did his thing and the mom did her thing. And Jean kind of, Jean-Gunior kind of got like the shit under the stick. Oh, that's a bummer. I know. Now, Jean's senior on the other hand was like, very involved in Jean-Gunior's life. Some might say like a little bit too much, a little too heavy-handed. Now she oversaw every last detail of everything. In any interview she did, once her little gene became the gene harlow,

she said she was always all mine and also told people all the time that Gene owed her everything. Oh, yeah, it's like, oh. That's a totalation chip, dude. Ah, oh, that's a totally Asian trip, dude, that is definitely a toxic relationship. Not healthy connections. No, at all.

I think she felt like her daughter owed her everything because it had actually been her dream to become an actress, but by the time she moved to Hollywood with little Jean, they told her that she was too old. And it's like, honey, you can't, like you're supposed to want better for your children. Right.

You're supposed to want them to have everything that you didn't have or everything that you had and more. And she did. She definitely wanted she to have everything that she didn't have. But not kill them because of it. But it was like she wanted to push gene into doing everything that she didn't get to do kind of thing.

Yeah, it's not living by cariously through your children. Like, you gotta let them live. Like, I wanted to do gymnastics when I was little. And, you know, like, someday I hope my kids wanted to do gymnastics, but I'm not gonna, like, try to make them the next small and biol. So, and you're not gonna, like, push them into it and then be like, you owe me everything

because you did that, because I didn't get to do this. If you get the gold, that's my gold. Like, no. That's psychotic. But anyway, so yeah, they did move out to Hollywood because Jean Sr was like, I'm gonna make a pig and they were like, no, you're not, girl. You're great to hold for them.

No, you're not. Because back then, they wanted you to be like 17. Yeah, of course. And they didn't last long in Hollywood. Little Jean dropped out of school while she was there. She was only 14 years old. And then eventually, her grandfather made her and her mother moved back to Missouri.

He said that if they didn't move back to Missouri, he was gonna like write Jean Senior out of his will. Oh wow. She wasn't gonna get anything. Damn. And they had money. So wielding the power of that will. Wealded not will power.

Wealded that last will and testament. People do, you know? Yeah. And it's like, it's quite a weapon to wield. It's a good tool. Yeah. Come back to Missouri. It's a good tool. Yeah. Come back to Missouri or you might know anything. Now they did stay in Missouri for a little while

and then they moved to Clostal in Noy for Jean's schooling. Now she was 15 and she was going to Fairy Hall School. And it was there that she would actually meet her first husband and nearby her mother would meet her second. Now both jeans actually got married in 1926. Wow. Jean Jr. did not go to Jean's seniors wedding. Okay.

Which I thought was interesting. Ah, yes. Little Jean married. Little Jean, just want to say. Little Jean married her first husband, 19 year old Charles Chuck Fremont Magroup the third. Hell yeah, she did. Yeah.

Hell yeah. She was 16 years old, so she was 16, he was 19. His parents had actually died when he was young because they're boat capsized while they were on their way to vacation on their private island. Oh, okay, Elsa and Anna. Literally Elsa and Anna. Like King Agnard and Queen Iduna. Okay.

Okay, okay. Keep living out your Disney not fantasy. Wow, that's terrible. But it's super duper terrible, but because of that, when he turned 21, he would be inheriting a lot of money. Today, the value would have been close to $3.1 million. Wow. So back then, that was like,

Mula, mula, mula, mula, mula. Yeah, that's a chunk of change. But when Chuck got the money, he and Gene decided to move out to Hollywood, live the good life. They bought a home in Beverly Hills and they both started parting and drinking a lot and not ever working. So it's kind of dwindle.

Yeah, that doesn't last forever. And Chuck had hoped that putting some distance between mother and daughter duo might be beneficial to his marriage. Like he was like, you guys are real fucking close and like, it's a little bit unhealthy. So maybe we should head out here and she should stay here and do her thing. And it's like even though you didn't go to her wedding, but okay. Yeah, you know. But Mama Jean was like, oh, that's really funny. No. And she came running out to Hollywood to be with her baby. Yeah.

And fun fact, Little Jean actually didn't know that her real name was Jean until she was five years old, because her parents only referred to her as the baby. The baby? So she literally thought her name was like baby. The baby. Like baby. And then later in life, they all called her baby

like on set and stuff. Oh my God. Everyone called her baby. That and stuff. Oh my God. Everyone called her baby. That's so funny. She didn't know that her name was Jean until she went to school. And they were like Jean and she was like, oh no, I'm being mean. Oh no, my name's the baby.

I'm the baby. The baby. That's so funny because as the youngest in the family, that's what I was called baby. The baby all the time. Did you know your name? But I knew that my name was Elena. Yeah. Because I think they brought, they put all the time. Did you know your name? But I knew that my name was Elena. Yeah. You're saying they brought, they brought

something. They interspersed it. Everyone said, what? I guess her family was not interspersed in. That is too funny. But anyway, Mama Jean came out to Hollywood with her new husband, Marino Bello, around 1928, because they were really struggling with money, and they figured they could move

shop of little Jean and Chuck for a while. Yeah. Like very, just like, saw those millions and they were like, I would do this. Very unhealthy connections. Yeah. Now during this time, like I said, not one of them was working and they were spending money left and right and life in California is not cheap. And luckily their luck would change a little bit later that year when Jean gave, so little Jean gave her friend Rosalie Roy a ride to an audition. Rosalie was like an inspiring actress and the audition was at Fox. And while Rosalie was inside auditioning, Jean was

waiting in the car. Okay. So she's just chilling in the car. I don't know. Maybe she's like smoking a cigarette like painting her nails. I don't know what she's doing. But two was there. I don't know. I wasn't there. But two Fox execs spotted her and they thought that she was stunning. It also like just must have been really awesome back then because everybody at Cebes was just doing their day to day thing and then they would just get discovered

by like Fox executives or like how it scouts. Like it's and I think that's like, I don't know if it's just because today there's like, you know, the internet. There's the internet. And there's like a lot more like plastic surgery that had like technology that has happened. So everybody like can kind of like look like a certain. Yeah, get that look.

But it's like back then it's like it just was what it was. So it's like if you walked by a Jean Harlow, you were like, oh, it was like a shocking, like, oh, hello. Right. Like they just stood out a little bit more. I feel like now it's probably in like certain areas, you know, people are looking to be discovered.

So I think it's hard to like pick out an old movie star. A Jean Harlow in the crowd. A Jean Harlow in the crowd. But it is really funny that back then it was like you would just be like, oh, and about. And somebody was like, do you want to be a movie star? Do you want to be a star kid? And you're like, yes. You might be like the grocery store or something or like Marilyn Monroe was just like fixing planes. Yeah. Hey, like we're gonna take pictures of that

and she was like, cheese and they were like, oh shit. And they were like, what's your name? And she was like, normal. No, it's not. It's also funny to they were like, what's your name? And she was like, Norma Jeans. No, it's not. It's not what's not. It's also funny to me that like, Jean Harlow's last name was Carpenter. And Norma Jeans was Baker. Yeah. It's a Carpenter and Baker. Yeah, that's funny.

It's just kind of funny. I just love that that was like the pattern was like, hey, beautiful. Let's take, let's put you in pictures. And they were like, what's your name? My name is Norma. And they were like, no, it's not. No, it's not.

She's like, my name's Harleen. They're like they were like, no, it's not. No, it's not. She's like, my name's Harley and they're like, fuck that. No, it's not. Like, okay. Like cool, cool, cool. But anyway, so they see her, she's just vibing in her car. And they approach her and they asked her to come in for the audition too.

And she was like, lol, no. She was like, I'm good. Lol, lol, no. She just, she wasn't into it. But they were like, all right, well, at least take these papers, they gave her some casting papers. They were like, look over these and come back

to the next audition, because we want you to be a stock. We want to put your in pictures. We want to put you on the big screen. We want you to name and light. You don't even have to talk. It's not a speaking. It's not a speaking.

You're a talkie. But so she was like, yeah, cool, cool. I'm going to keep fucking dragging on this. And Rosalie came back to the car and she was like, these fucking guys wanted me to come in for that audition. Like, can you believe it? And she was like, no, they didn't. Like, they couldn't, like, why?

You wouldn't have said no. And she was like, well, I did. Like, I don't, I don't want to go in there. Like, that's a thing that happened. And she was like, well, I did. Like, I don't want to go in there. That's a thing that happened. And she was like, well, then you must be too nervous. And she said something along the lines of like bedding gene that she wouldn't go back in. Sounds like a challenge.

So she like planted a little seed right there. Then Jean got home and she told her mom what happened. And Jean's senior all but fucking I was born in that seed. She literally was like, whoa, she was like breaking open a damn like trying to in that city. She literally was like, whoa, she was like breaking open a damn like trying to get that seed like, she was like, no way. We are growing this garden.

She was like, this is a beautiful metaphor, but she pressured Jean for days. She was like, please, please, please, you have to go back to Fox. Like, this is our dream and Jean's like, it sounds like it's your dream, but okay. But I'll rot. But finally, Jean was like, all right, what the fuck, ever. So she went back in to Fox for an audition. They really liked her and they started casting her in like really small parts. A lot of her early roles, she was an uncredited extra. Hey, gotta start somewhere. Yeah,

exactly. She was only making seven dollars a day, but eventually the work got bigger and bigger, and she ended up signing a contract with one Hal Roach. Do you remember Mr. Potato Head? I was just going to say, wait a second. Yes, if you haven't listened to the Thelmaton episode that we did, this man Hal Roach literally put a potato clause in Jufel Matad's contract, saying that she could not gain more than five pounds or she would be fired on the spot. A potato clause. Apparently Hal Roach is a fucking asshole. You don't say.

You know, everybody has their moments with potatoes, I guess, but he just kept it going. Yeah. You put a potato claws in somebody's shit. Like, what are you doing? You're done. What are you doing, guy? What are you doing? But they could do that back then. They could be like, they could do it over the moon if they could.

You can't. Like, blur your nose more than twice or you fired. Yeah, and it's like, okay. Like, okay. But Jean's contract with Hal was a five year term, and it was going to earn her $100 a week, which started off wonderfully. But then her shitty husband Chuck became jealous of all the work she was doing and the day she was spending away from him, he just had no respect for her work at all.

He never gave her any credit and she was the one bringing home like hard earned money. Yeah. Like he wasn't working at all. He was just like drinking his living off of that money he inherited. It living off the money he inherited and Jean's money that he's complaining about. But she's like paying the bills. Okay. Okay.

Now, in early 1929, Jean actually went to hellroach and she was like, my marriage is suffering like, what am I supposed to do? Like, I don't know what to do. And Hal's response was like super loving and charming and he really took Jean under his wing and was going to take care of her. Psych is just gonna say it later. But ripped up her contract in front of her and was like, get out.

What? He was like, I don't have time for that. Wow, like the cold, cold, straight. Damn, baby. Damn. Is that whole, she's like, I don't know what to do. How like my marriage is suffering, what do I do? And he's like,

you never know out of my office. I've been like scream three to like, Milton, whatever his name is. Oh my God. And he's talking about how this is the way it is. Like everybody knows what they're getting into. It's like, that's literally how it is. Like, that's wild.

And that's probably why she didn't want to get into it in the first place. Yeah. Because she was like, I don't, this is scary. This is a scary business. It is. It's a doggy dog world out there. Oh, dear. Like, she's. Yeah, so he was like, fuck don't, this is scary. This is a scary business. It is, definitely. It's a dog eat dog world out there.

Oh, apparently, geez. Yeah, so he was like, fuck you, get out of my office. And then her marriage suffered even more in 1929 when she was shooting the movie Masquerade. She only had like a small part of that movie, but during that time her career was starting to take off in other areas. Like she was doing other films and she was really starting to get noticed. Yeah, but it was

then that she found out she was pregnant. So she told her mother and her mother gave her two options. This is like a huge trigger warning. I just want to let you know, like, involve losing a baby. Oh, so her mother said that she could either have an abortion or that they would find someone to beat her and make her lose the baby. Like her mother. Oh my God. Said that about like her potential grand baby was like we can have someone beat you and take care of her.

Because I legitimately like flapper guessed it. Because she didn't want it to ruin her dream. Oh my God. Like I guarantee Eugene would have had the baby. legitimately like flapper guest. That's because she didn't want it to ruin her dream. Oh my God. Like I guarantee you, Jean would have had the baby. And that's just been like a mom. Really sad and horrible.

But her mom was like, no, it's gonna ruin your career. That just that part of it. It's like, whoa. It's like, what the fuck? So luckily, Jean just, well, not luckily, but between those two options, she decided on the former and she had an abortion.

Yeah. In May of 1929. Now, going forward from that, it was obviously incredibly difficult for Jean. Like, that comes with so much. Yeah, that's a huge, dramatic event in your life, no matter which way you cut it.

For sure. Now, she started drinking more, she and Chuck were fighting more and more. I'm actually not sure if he knew about the abortion or if he just knew that Jean was kind of hiding something from him and it just caused more tension. Yeah. But either way, the marriage hit its breaking point

a month later in June. Jean had actually posed for a photographer named Edwin Bauer-Hesser. He was known to do nude photoshoots that are really artistic, in my opinion. I think they're cool. Yeah. Jean did this shoot with him, covered in silk scarves that they really didn't cover anything, but the prints are gorgeous.

I actually want to buy one and hang one in my house. Oh, I'm sure. It's just like, I mean, Jean Harlow is like... That's the picture that's in my bathroom. Yeah, I love every picture of her. I'm just like, she's just so old-hauled. Wait, until I tell you of her. I'm just like she's God. She's just so old. Wait until I tell you what they did to her achieve that color for her hair Because we'll get there in holy cow

The pictures are in like the I think it's in like Griffith Park or something like that I didn't write it down But they're in this like beautiful park and she's like there's nature behind her and the scarves are just kind of like flowing in the wind Oh, I love that you got to Google it. I'm gonna Google it picks by Edwin Bauer Hesser She's like, there's nature behind her, and the scarves are just kind of like flowing in the wind. I love that. You got to Google it. I'm going to Google it. Picks by Edwin Bauer Hesser.

Okay, cool. Now, so I love these prints, obviously. But Chuck didn't necessarily feel the same. No? He found the pictures like lying about the house, and people speculate that Gene was just like, you know what, he's going to find those pictures and like, fuck him, He ain't like what him.

He absolutely lost it on her. He was like disgusted by the pictures that she imposed nude. It was inappropriate. It was like, he just hated it. He couldn't handle what success she was having and how beautiful she was. So the fight got so bad that Jean actually left him that night

and she moved back in with her mother and immediately filed for divorce. Oh wow. Now the divorce was messy and it wasn't finalized until two years later in 1931. And Jean was actually supposed to get Alimony and a trust fund, but she turned both of those things down and told the lawyers, I can make it on my own anyway. Get it. Like bad bitch alert. Like you need your dumb trust fund money, get out of my face. Yeah, I'll make it on my own anyway. Get it. Like bad bitch alert. Like, I need your dumb trust fund money. Get out of my face. Yeah, I'll make it on my own. It's fun. I don't

care. I don't need you. I'm independent. I'm not. I'm I'm I'm Gina. So after the divorce, Jean found herself another five year contract this time with Howard Hughes after she was discovered for his film, Hell's Angels. It was during this filming that she would meet her next husband, Paul Byrne. Now, Hell's Angels was like a huge success for Jean. She later became known as the original blonde bombshell after all this. Like, this really got her her notoriety. Now, we're gonna get into the hair. She was naturally blonde. She had like a not even like dirty blonde.

It was just like an ashy blonde hair color, but they would bleach the shit out of her hair, apparently using a mix of ammonia, chlorox bleach, and luxe soap flakes. And they would do this once a week. How did her hair look so shiny? I have no idea. That's so wild,

because like all her photos, you're like, probably like hairspray and like, kind of shiny. It would like, it would get like teased and stuff, but even when your hair is blonde, it reflects the light. So that's true, so that's lighting.

But wow. Like, please do not try that at home. But like, yeah, that doesn't sound like it would be great. Chlorox bleach and ammonia and luxe soap flakes. Which I had to like Google what that was. It's just like these little like soap flakes. Yeah. You just wonder like who came up with that?

Like somebody that was off their rocker. Who was like, yeah. And over her career, like her hair started getting shittier and shittier. Oh yeah. Because obviously that's going to fall in out. Wow, that's wild. No, she would be like paraded around on these publicity tours. And there actually was this contest held where any beautician who was able to replicate

her exact shade of blonde would win $10,000. Stop. Like they had like, are you kidding me? That's so key. 1920s and 30s. It's like must you just been an absolute vibe check? Like you're we're just having we're just having competitions about like can you achieve this lady's hair color? That's so fun that we achieved through using everything under the sink Literally like go under your kitchen sink and you'll achieve a good job with that. And obviously no hair dresser in the right

mind would ever do that. For real. Whoever the fuck did that. Wow. But no one won the competition. And personally, I think that's because I wasn't around at the time. And neither was Redkin's shades EQ. So that's my comment on that. That's me. That's me. But after the hair, her success with Hell's Angels, after all that, Paul Bern was not only starting to fall for her romantically, but he was also one of the main people who really believed in her acting career. A lot of people actually didn't take her seriously.

Like the public really liked jeans movies and stuff like that. But movie critics were like, she sucks. Yeah. Which happens a lot. I was just gonna about Marilyn Monroe too. Yeah, I feel like at the time that was like, it was, that was like almost the norm for these kind of stars. It was like, the public just loved them and fell in love with them.

They wanted to eat them up. The critics and all that were like, fuck this. And it's like, but it's selling. But like, isn't that the point? I feel like that was, people are supposed to come and watch the movie and love them. I don't know. No? Okay. And then this is the thing. I feel like they was, people are supposed to come and watch the movie and love them. I don't know. Okay. And then this is the thing I feel like they were just

like getting paid to be mean at that point. Yeah, pretty much. Now because she was contracted with Howard Hughes, Paul Byrne actually had to make an arrangement personally with Hughes to borrow Jean for MGM's movie, The Beast of the City. Then I think I mentioned it before, but Paul Byrne was an exec for MGM.

Yes. Now Hughes agreed that he agreed and that movie too gave Gene Harlow huge success. And she actually went on this huge publicity tour for the movie after filming that Paul Bern arranged. And she was so popular on these tours that they actually added like a ton of like showings to the tour and extended it six weeks. Damn. And I assume that during that tour, Paul Burn and Jean kind of started their relationship because by 1932, they announced that they were officially together. Now that same year, Paul convinced the higher ups at MGM to buy Jean out of her contract

and they wanted her to sign with MGM and they were going to offer her $30,000, which today would have been around like 600,000. So lots of money. Wow. And she found out on her 21st birthday that MGM was signing the deal. So, 21st, for some reason I always think of these old stylists as like much older. Oh yeah. They're like older too. Like in their 30s, like right like it which is not old I'm just saying older than like 21. Yeah, I mean 21 is like I'm so young and you're achieving all that That's you I didn't even mention all the movies that she had at that point like she was in tons and tons 21 years old And she was working with like Clark Gable. Yeah, like all the all these things who of the day like all the all these things. The who's who of the day.

Exactly. Now that same year, Jean and Paul Burn bought a home together at 9820, 9820 East and Drive in Benedict Canyon. And that summer, they actually got married on the front lawn and tons and tons of elite guests were there. Now a lot of people were like really surprised

by their relationship and this whole wedding because Paul Bern was 22 years older than Jean at that point. And like I feel like at the time though that was like there's like nothing. But at the same time Jean was like this really beautiful young woman and people didn't necessarily think that Paul Bern was like this beautiful man who was like a tiny dude and like his features are just like people don't like them not classically handsome like I'm not here to like shame Paul Burns face I know I need to look at what he looks like yeah people didn't find him attractive and they were like what the fuck is she doing basically but

rumors started spreading that their relationship was like super toxic justice toxic as Jean's previous marriage and there's this huge rumor that on the night they were married, Paul Burnlecko of a big secret. He was impotent. Oh, so allegedly, and according to the book, More of Hollywood's Unsolved Mysteries by John Austin, Jean was pissed, and she felt like she had been tricked into marrying him because she was like,

I wouldn't have done that. Why wouldn't you tell me this ahead of time? Right, like you kept this huge secret from me. And they had been drinking that night so things got heated more intensely than they should have. And the night ended with Paul biting Jean to the point where he drew blood from her skin. What the fuck? Yeah, according to this book. Now, whoa, she went to tell the studio what was happening because she was like, what's a fuck? But all the higher ups, according to this book. Now, she went to tell the studio what was happening because she was like, what's a fuck? But all the higher ups, obviously at this point, are more loyal to Paul because he's the one

that discovered her in the first place. Of course. And because he's been working there for years, they were like, oh, you know, it's probably not good for your image if you got divorced again. So you should just stay with them. So just suck it up, buttercup. And like let's keep it in the family.

Like, MGM for absolutely. Yeah, put up with it. Yeah, it'll be fine. Like just like, that's fine. Don't let him bite you again, I guess. Don't let him bite you again. Like, just don't do it. Is he a dog?

What the fuck? Is he an alligator? Like, for real, I see an alligator. The fuck? Sir, gator. Like, what is this? You find that out the night you get married? Yeah, that's not awesome. Not cool. And there were way more secrets to Paul's life.

And it's unclear if Jean knew about this one before or during their marriage at all. Like if she even knew while he was still here. Now the entire time that they were dating and while they were married, Paul had a whole last other wife. You know, when you were about to say, I was like, I guarantee you, he has a whole last other, like just family situation going on here. Just life. Life, that's not tracking. He's got two wives.

Yeah, just two. Two wives. One more than most. Like at the same time, Like that's not cool. Now, her name was Dorothy Millett, and she was his wife by common law. So it was our common law marriage, meaning they were together for a certain number of years

and must have lived together for quite some time. Now, they had lived together in New York when Paul Byrne decided that he wanted to move out to Hollywood and begin his career as a manager. Now, this was like way before the MGM days, but even after that, he never stopped sending her letters or money or recommending hotels for her to stay out while she was traveling. So he was like very much in contact with this person. And she was very much under the impression that like they were still married.

Wow. He allegedly sent her $300 a month and she actually had to spend time in a nursing home for like mental health issues, and the entire time that she was there, he paid for everything, and like was writing her consistently. So this is like just a full on. This is a life.

Full-ass other marriage, correct? That's just so, that's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. I never understand these people who do this, like the shady, like keeping a whole other life separate from their other. It's like, isn't that just tiring? Well, no, I was like, what are you getting out of that?

It's these dudes who like have to, they like, one piece of cake is not enough. It's like, one piece of cake is plenty. Just have one. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. You can have your cake and eat it too, with just one wife. Yeah, the dude I dated before meeting John, who had literally an entire life outside of like a whole

last other girlfriend. Multiple lives. Like, he had like three or four underlines. For sure. But there was one that was like, like, oh, that's a legitimate other, like a whole other relationship that you, and when we found out we got together, we're like, oh, okay. So like, you literally, it's the exact same. I do love that you like John Tucker must

died him kind of. Yeah, and like made friends with the other hell. Yeah, we did. And I caught a living. Cause I was like, I caught you know what honey, it's not your fault. Not your fault. That's that's what it is. Get mad at the dude. Don't get mad at the the other girls. Yeah, especially if they don't know. Cause she, she thought you were a sister. Yeah, he said, yeah, that's, you go, yeah. You listening on there? Yeah. I'm calm and forth.

I'm calm and forth. You wanted these days, buddy. But it always, it always stounds me when you hear these stories, because I thought the same thing would happen to me. Oh, yeah. Isn't that just a lot of work? Like, being one relationship is enough work.

Like why do you need to add a whole, a whole last other one? Because like obviously relationships are like beautiful and fun, but you're like, they do take work. Yeah, of course. Like in communication and you know, like, and it's just like, I don't want to do two of them. Just paying attention to somebody, like your whole focus should be on your relationship that you're in currently.

Yeah. And you're dividing it between two at least and you're pretending to be putting full attention on both of these people. So it's like, and then it's like, is that even exhausting? Is either of them even real? Yeah, that's the thing.

Cause like for you obviously, it was like very real, but then you like think of it and you're like, was it real? Yeah, like what even was that? It's like messed up. It's like just a weird thing that people do. It is. It's like not okay. Like don't cheat on people.

Yeah, it's a bummer. Just break up with somebody and move on. Exactly. If you're not feeling the vibe. Yeah, that's exactly. Just catch a new vibe. Catch a new vibe. But like get rid of the old vibe.

How to date with Hashke. Get rid of the old vibe before catching a new vibe. That's a good, I'm telling you. Honestly, that's good in most areas of life. Yeah, that's how I love my life. Get rid of the old vibe before catching a new vibe? That's a good, I'm telling you. Honestly, that's good in most areas of life. That's why I love my life. Get rid of the old vibe first. Don't half-ass two things when you can whole-ass one thing. Don't half-ass two vibes when you can just have one whole-ass vibe.

There you go. All right, anyways. Yeah, he was half-assing too much. And some people think that throughout the short marriage that Gene started to become aware of Paul's double life, which I would assume so. I was going to say you always do. It's very hard to keep up appearance. No one can keep that shit up completely.

And some people alleged that baby, that's why she might have had something to do with his death. Oh, a legend. A legend. I don't think she did. But I'm just gonna like put that right over here. But that's a rumor. A rumor. Now on September 5th, 1932, after just barely two months of marriage, Paul Byrne was found dead in his bedroom at 9820 East and Drive. Woof! He had died of a gunshot wound to the head, and he was discovered naked.

Wow, very interesting, huh? Now, this is where it becomes a game of mother fucking clue. Like, the butcher has the candlestick in there, the secretary has the knife in there, the baker's golly, it's just like, it's insane. Like, the, you know, the baker's golly, it's just like, it's insane. Like the, you know, the kernel with the candlestick in the arborinum. Yes.

Thank you. That's who it is. Correct. So the butler of the whole was the one who discovered Paul's body. Now, instead of calling the police, this man's called MGM Studios. Already shady. Dude, uh, that's, yeah.

Yeah, no. So they didn't call the police first. They called MGM Studios. They incorrect. You pressed an incorrect key. Yeah. Now, the head of MGM, Louis B. Mayor, met the police at the home when they were called two hours later.

Weird. And they handed, he handed them what would become known he sat the home when they were called two hours later. Weird. And he handed them what would become known as Paul Burns Suicide Note to his last wife, Jean Harlow. Okay. Now, let me read it to you before I get into my thoughts. Okay. The note said, dearest dear, unfortunately,

this is the only way to make good the frightful wrong. I have done you and to wipe out my abject humiliation I love you Paul and then underneath almost like a post script It says you understand that last night was only a comedy Now for me that letter could have been for Jean, also could have been for Dorothy. Because it says my dearest dear. And you have two dearest.

Like who is the dearest? You have multiple dearest, so I don't know. That's the problem with multiple dearest. Who's the dearest? Nobody knows later. Yeah, exactly. So before the death was ruled as a suicide, which it ultimately was. Okay. So this went down in the books as a suicide. But the police before they

could do that had to talk to the people closest to Paul. Of course. Now most of the people were people who worked for him. So on the night that Paul died, Jean was actually staying at her mother's house. Okay. Yep. Some of the agents from MGM were allegedly the ones to tell her that Paul was dead. It's so weird to me that they called his work before people like, what the one? Correct.

It should be. It's so weird to me. Very strange. We just called your boss before nine, one, one. They literally they called the publicist first and they were like, how are we gonna tell this to the police? Like I don't know what to say about that. Cause that's basically just like,

how do we want this reported? Yeah. Also to the police, like not only in the headlines, but to the investigators. Yeah. How do we want to spin this all the way around? And you would think that in and of itself would like maybe raise a red flag to the police, but I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So Paul's butler told the police that even though he and Jean were so happy in their marriage, that Paul often talked about suicide, and particularly because he was embarrassed that he was impotent. Now the gardener told the police the exact opposite. He said the couple was fucking miserable in their marriage, and that he had never heard Paul talk about ending his life.

Those are different. Those are two like very different things. Those are like real different. Those are two like very different things. Those are like real different. Now the cook or Paul's secretary, depending on which source you read, like it was like even in both of them. This is so cool. I love it.

They told the police that the night put, this is like where it got like, woo, woo. They told the police that the night Paul burn was found. There was a woman at the property who they had never seen before. And that later on, one of them was like clearing dishes outside by the pool.

And they found two glasses next to a woman's bathing suit that absolutely did not belong to Jean Harlow. Ha! Now remember, she wasn't home that night. She was at her mother's house. In Treg. And they see this woman that doesn't look like her, and then they find a bathing suit

that doesn't belong to her. And I mean, Jean Harlow is very, it would be hard to be like, I didn't look like her. Like, you know if it's Jean Harlow. Yeah. Her hair is hair alone. Her hair is going to tell you what she does. Yes. The Chlorox smell that follows her for eternity is right there.

Yeah. So, Oh, that's interesting. That's a lot of interesting. Maybe that woman was Dorothy Malette. His other fucking wife. Maybe that woman was Dorothy Malette, his other fucking wife, maybe. Now after Paul died, letter surface that showed him helping Dorothy

plan a trip to San Francisco. He recommended place for her to stay and he told her, all my love and best wishes always in every letter. Now, the letters were being exchanged just months before July of 1932 when he got married to Jean. So clearly he was sending these letters, but still intending to marry Jean.

Of course. Now, maybe Dorothy was planning the trip out to California to reunite with her husband, and while she was on her way out there, she realized that he had gone on and married a beautiful young actress, and she got jealous because she herself had done some acting work in Canada. So she would have been pretty pissed that her husband like left her but didn't leave her for someone younger, more up and coming.

More up and coming. More up and coming. And then on top of all of that, it would have been a threat to her financial situation. Yeah, because he's now married to someone else. Is he gonna continue to send you this money? It's only been two months. You don't know.

No. When Paul married Jean, he changed his will. And Jean became the beneficiary of every last penny. Oh. Now, it's possible that Dorothy wasn't aware of that last detail. And maybe she thought that by killing Paul, she would be able to get the money from his will. Because why would she be aware of that?

Why would she? Because she's still sending her money. And she's his common law wife. Right. So you would think that that would be the- Right. And changing her wills of pain in the ass, so maybe she's like, he didn't get it round to it.

Yeah. So maybe she found that out and came to kill him, thinking that she was gonna get some of his money. Whoa. But she actually ended up jumping from the Delta King steamboat into the Sacramento River to her own death just like two days after Paula died.

Whoa. Yeah. So you could call that guilty. Maybe she couldn't live with the guilt that she had killed him. Or you could call it just being. Or you could just say she was like super sad that her husband had died. Yeah, of course died huh right now over the years people also pointed the

finger at gene herself and there's obviously been no no no evidence to corroborate that no there's like she killed him no there's none there's no evidence at all that's just like a rumor other than like the suicide note huh which like is that even a suicide note yeah you, you just don't know. I don't know. But over the years people have also pointed the finger at gene. So they say maybe she found out about Dorithi Millett and she was pissed and then on top of that she was already mad about this whole other thing that he had lied to her about before they got married. Mm-hmm. So she had had enough and was she so angry and worried that like another secret was gonna come out or maybe she was so miserable in the marriage that she killed Paul.

And then was like, oh no, I've been at my mom's this whole night. But even with his will aside, she would have been completely fine financially, so it could have been like a heat of the moment type thing. Yeah. Like this one you don't even have to factor the money into. Yeah. But the people who support this theory think that since MGM agents got like a head start to the crime scene They may have found that letter called it a suicide letter and then Gene Harlow never made a public comment about Paul Bernsteth Never came into the public and said anything which some people find strange

But on the other side of that her agents might have told her not to yeah, and I mean She also isn't owing anybody anything. Right, exactly. Exactly. Right. Right. And that's the word, you know, I mean, if she doesn't want to say a word about it, she doesn't have to.

No matter what you slice at her husband's. But I can understand that people would find it weird, because people have come to expect that you have to say something. So it's a, yeah, there's a lot of different. So whether they knew if Paul was killed or not, it definitely looked better for Jean, excuse me, whether they knew if Paul was killed or not, it looked better for Jean if her husband had committed suicide versus his like other wife killed him.

Yeah, of course. So even if he was killed by someone else, they might have just made it look like suicide, regardless of if Jean had anything to do with it. Just because it would have brought up all the messiness. Right. Exactly. It would have made a fool out of her back then, like when you think about it, you have to

have it all, but you know what I mean. Wow. Now, interesting. So she, that never got solved. That's just something that happened. It was just ruled a suicide. It was just ruled a suicide. Right.

So I guess it was solved, but like, it was solved on paper. Yeah, it's interesting. So then after that, Jean married one more time to a man called Harold Rossin. He also worked at MGM. And their marriage was said to be arranged because she was having an affair with Max Bayer, who was a professional boxer, like right after Paul died. And then his wife found out about their relationship. Even though they were separated.

Like him and his wife were separated while he was with Jean. But she was pissed because she was like, that's Jean Harlan. That's Jean Harlan. I'm really pissed about that. And she was like, I'm gonna go through it and divorce you. But I'm gonna cite Jean as like a co-adulterer. Because that was a thing back then.

Oh my God. So NGM was like, oh, that's like the last thing we need right now. Yeah. You mind if we like make you marry Harold and Jean was like, I have to mind if we like make you marry her. If that's that cool with you, and she's like, yeah, sure. I got it. So they married each other, but I don't think they were like friends. Yeah, I don't think they were That's what I love about each other. Let's just roll with it. It was just like cool and they basically got married to make MGM happy And then they divorced eight months later like super quiet. These Louise. So that's her second group. Excuse me. That's her third. I was just gonna say

Now for the next four years Jean appeared in a bunch of different big roles like personal property, riff riffraff, and her last film, Saratoga. Now, while filming Saratoga in 1937, it was becoming super clear that 26-year-old Jean was not doing very well. Her breath became horrible. Clark Gable actually later said that it smelled like urine. Like while he had to like kiss her on set for certain things,

and he was like her breath smells like urine. Which is, I mean, bad breath is an indicator of a lot of health issues. So she was also complaining of a abdominal pain that she said that she was nauseous, a handful of other symptoms like she was bloated. Like there was a lot going on. What's going on, gastroenterinternally here.

Yeah. The doctor on set was like, nah, I think she's fine. And they kept filming. Oh no. Because the filming had already been delayed for two months once, because Jean had her wisdom teeth taken out, and she got sick from that somehow and got sepsis. Oh, wow. Like, wait, like, before this filming even started. Oh, yeah. So it already got delayed. So I think they were like, well, you're fine. Like, you gotta keep doing this, which is not okay. No. But she was getting worse and worse, and she was looking paler and sicker throughout the filming and she was now dating actor William Powell. So they actually called him to the set and they were

like, you have to take her home, like get her to the doctor, like something's going on. So initially the doctor diagnosed her with the flu and an inflamed gallbladder, but said that she would get better with rest and everything would be fine. And her mom called MGM and was like, she's going to be back on Monday, which would have been June 7th. And that was not the truth. None of it. She actually had been misdiagnosed, and she was so far along in kidney failure that there was nothing they could do to try her. I was going to say, because all those other symptoms, I was like, no,

that's not the flu. Something really bad and testinally is happening here. Yes. But yeah, kidney failure, kidney failure. So her body was just shutting down. Literally shutting down.

There was nothing they could do. Wow. Now she passed away one day after she fell into a coma at Goods Meridant in LA. And she passed away on June 7th, 1937. Wow. Which I was like, that's weird, that her mom was like, she's coming back on June 7th and then she died on June 7th. Oh, that's fucked up. And she was 26 years old. 26 years old dies of kidney failure. That's right. And one of that MGM writer said,

the day baby died, there wasn't one sound in the commissary for three hours. And they actually ended up having to use a body double to finish Saratoga. Oh wow. But a lot of people, there's like a lot of different theories as to why she would have gone into kidney failure. Some say the sepsis might have had something to do with it. A lot of people think the way that they were bleaching her hair had something to do. I'm sure that was not good, you know?

No, like everything you do is being absorbed by your body. Yeah. And like bleaching your hair was one thing, but bleaching your hair with ammonia, chlorox, bleach, and locks soap flakes every week. No, that's going to do something to you. And even just not even like putting that on your head, but like inhaling it.

Well, that's what I'm thinking, like inhaling that stuff too. It's like, that's not good. And then when she was younger, she had had scarlet fever so there can be like long lasting effects from that. Oh, wow. That can lead to kidney failure. So there's none of this was just, it was all just kind of, it all over.

Honestly, maybe it all worked together to, oh yeah, I'm sure it's, it sounds like a perfect storm of things. It really does. They should have taken care of earlier and they probably like the kidney failure thing the fact that they were like It's so far a lot of we can't do anything if they had taken care of that earlier They could have taken control of that. Oh, I'm so sad. It's so sad because it's like I mean it was 1937 like they just yeah, they didn't really know exact they hadn't perfected things No, they hadn't because I mean that had and perfected things. No, they hadn't.

I mean, especially the breath thing, smelling like urine, that should have been a tip off to somebody that, that's the sign of the kidney. That's the big sign of the kidney. And then the bloating, and then it was fluid retention. In pain in there, if anybody has had kidney issues, you know, it's no joke. It's shit, it will fuck you up.

Seriously. Oh, and I forgot to mention, she also couldn't go to the bathroom for weeks. Yeah, seeing that should be, that's a clear indication that your kidneys are not functioning properly. That's the first thing is like, yeah, you can't pee because you need your kidneys for that. Right, because your kidneys are retaining.

Pretty vital. You're in, which is then pretty vital for like building up. Yeah, it's horrific. Oh, yeah. But I did promise you some hauntings. You did. I already gave you potentially a murder question mark. Let's get into the haunted.

So it would be another 26 years before JC Bring bought the house where Jean and Paul had lived together. Oh wow. No one where Paul had died. Now, if that name sounds familiar, that is good. Because Jay was one of the people killed the night that Charles Manson sent Susan Atkins, Patricia Crenrenkel, Linda Kasebian and Tex Watson to share and date in Roman Polanski. Now, before Sharon had married Roman Polansky, she and Jay had actually been

dating. Oh yeah, I remember that being part of the whole thing. Yeah, like they were like really good friends. And a lot of people actually think that she was planning on divorcing Roman and a lot of people thought that she would have gone back to Jay because they were so good together. They were really great together. This whole thing is just so tragic. Yeah. together. This whole thing is just so tragic, yeah.

Now, when they were together, it was during the time where Jay lived in Gene Harlow's former home. The while Bern had died. Now Sharon Tate spent a good amount of time there, and in later years she did a few interviews where she basically said the place was haunted as fuck. And in one of the interviews, she was speaking with Dick Kleiner of Fate magazine, which is like a very like, it's about like ghosts and the paranormal and psychic experiences. Cool. And so she was talking to this man for that magazine. And she said she felt like while she was staying there, she had had a premonition of her own death. Ooh, so one night she was in J's bedroom trying to sleep and he was away. But she just like couldn't relax in the room

and she just had this feeling that something was off. She said that she was somewhere in between like a sleeping state and an awake state. Like I kind of know what she means by that. Yeah, I think everybody's been like, yeah. You know what I mean? And she described the whole thing as being like a dream. But at some point, she got up to turn on the light

because she kept hearing noises and she felt like having the light on would just make her feel better. As soon as she turned on the light though, she saw what she described as a creepy little man who looked a lot like Paul burned to her. And she said that he was moving all about the room, like bumping into shit. like, he didn't notice

that she was there, but he was like rummaging through the room and it was freaking her the fuck out. What? So she put on a robe and slipped into the hallway and like started running down the stairs. But on her way down, making her way down the stairs, she saw a figure tied to the staircase with its throat slashedash-to-open.

And she said she couldn't make out exactly who the figure was, but she swore that it was either her or Jay. Oh my god. Yep. And she, she like, explained this in an interview? Yeah, I'll link the magazine where it's holy shit. That is really scary. Really scary. Considering what happens. I mean, this would be scary no matter what. Oh, it only gets scary. Considering what happens later, this is like wild. It's crazy. And she said it was like a premonition.

Whoa. So she made her way past the figure and then she went down into the room where she was pretty sure that Jay kept the alcohol because she was like, I need a drink. Like fuck this. Whoa. Now, it was this kind of like hidden liquor cabinet thing

and she knew that this was where he kept the alcohol but she was like, where is it? And she kept saying like she felt compelled to do certain things or like her to voice telling her to do certain things. So to reveal this liquor cabinet, she had to pull a book out of a shelf and press a button for the bar to spin out.

That's cool, should I've ever heard? Because the house had the feature because it was built during prohibition. That's so fucking cool. How cool. Look, I'm sorry, I want that. I literally need that. So she figured that out.

She had the drink and she settled down a bit while she was down there. And also that room was called the playroom, which I just love. Wow, because it's just like the drink room. The the drink room. It's like the bar. But she said she had the drink. She settled down and she was like, which I just love. Wow, because it's just like the drink room. The drink room. It's like the bath. But she said she had the drink, she settled down

and she was like, am I dreaming? And she was like pinching herself the whole time and she was like, I couldn't feel it. And she remembered something inside of her though, told her to rip a little piece of wallpaper off the wall before she went back upstairs to bed. So she did. And then she walked right past the figure again,

which she said now was gushing blood. She just like walked right by it. Like, God, she walked past. She walked past. She's going on right now. She walked past the creepy little man and she went to sleep. She walked past the creepy little man and then I think she probably had like a drink or three.

Yeah. Because like I don't blame her. Like I got and twisted it. I don't know. Like what do you suppose to do? Should on the floor. Yeah. Get out of here.

So, when she woke up in the morning, Jay like came in and was like, oh, like, how was your night? Like, are you okay? Because he was in New York, I guess. How's your night? Are you okay? No.

No. He didn't say like, are you okay? He was like, how's your night? Because he had been in New York the previous night for work. And so she's sitting there in the room and she's telling him all about this crazy dream that she had aka nightmare and she told him like the little detail about the wallpaper. She told him all of it So they were done chatting about this terrible experience and they went downstairs and they realized that there were a few

scraps of wallpaper on the floor and the drink cabinet was still out. So in that moment, she realized that the entire thing had actually happened. She was actually down there, like actually ripped that off paper. She had actually seen all the things she thought she saw. And she said it was the only psychic experience like that or ghost experience that she'd ever had in her entire life. Wow. or like ghost experience that she'd ever had in her entire life.

Wow. Now, she apparently did this interview just a year before the Manson family broke into the house that she rented with Roman Polanski. Oh my God. So if you haven't listened to, and if you don't know anything about this, I'm just gonna give you like a quick overview. The Manson family broke into the house,

killed Sharon Tate, her unborn baby. She was eight and a half months pregnant. That kills me. They killed Jay C. Bring, Abigail Folger, who was an ares to the Folger. Yeah. Coffee, like, for fortune. Fortune, thank you.

They killed Boycheck Freikowski and Stephen Parent, who was just like a friend of someone living in the guesthouse. Yeah. Now, strangely enough, Sharon and friend of someone living in the guesthouse. Yeah. Now, strangely enough, Sharon and Roman's house was also in Benedict Canyon, and it was not very far from the Jean Harlow J.C. Bringholm. Wow.

It was like not very far at all. So Sharon Tate and Roman Plancky's home was at 10050. It should have looked up how to say that. I think it's C.L.O. Drive. C.L. CLO drive. Yeah, it is. We had to pause already because I was like, I don't know, I'd say that.

I worked and I was like, fuck, CLO drive. So it's fair share of occupants before it was destroyed along with the guest house in later years. Rudolph Eltebelly, who owned the house, and he was the one who rented it out to Sharon and Roman. He moved into the house not long after the murders, and he said that it felt safe, secure, loved, and beauty. And beauty.

And beauty. It felt beauty. It felt beauty, then. I listened to Dr. Kovlo. Now, the last person who lived in the house was Trent Rezner from this band called... Hell yeah. Called Min.

Called Min. Yeah, I think it's a sketch. It's called Min. If you have a listen to the listener tales, we love a Trent rest. Sometimes I made an accident with that. Sometimes I made an accident with that work. You'll never live down ninn.

Never ever. So I'm just diving into it. Hell yeah. But he actually lived in that house. Until he met Sharon Tate's sister. And she said to him, like, do you think you're kind of exploiting my sister's death? And because while he was living there,

Nyn had actually filmed the music, I'm just gonna continue, because I already did. I can't. They actually filmed the music video for Gave Up, which is a really cool music video. Yeah. And they called the recording studio Pig or La Pig.

Yeah, they were definitely leaning into the spookiness of that it was a crime scene. Exactly. Now Trent said it was really the first time that he'd thought about the whole thing. And at first he was like, no, I'm not explaining her death by living there. But that night he actually went home and cried, he said. And then he said, when she was talking to me, I realized for the first time, what if that was my sister? Yeah. I thought, fuck Charlie Manson.

I don't wanna be looked at as a guy who supports serial killer bullshit. Hell yeah. I went home and I cried that night. It made me see there's another side to things, you know? It's one thing to go around with your dick swinging in the wind acting like it doesn't matter. But when you understand the repercussions that are felt,

that's what sobered me up. Realizing that what balances out the appeal of the lawlessness and the lack of morality and that whole thing is the other end of it. The victims who don't deserve that. To see and sometimes like, you know what, good for him for admitting like, I didn't think about it. Like, I was being ignorant to it and I was thinking about this is spooky and woe, this is a crime scene and all that.

And sometimes it's hard to, you need to be confronted with the real. You definitely do. With the real shit on the other end. And like her sister being like, you think you're actually not. I that's literally my sister. And it's like, oh. And like, obviously it shouldn't take that.

For real or for some. But that does happen. I'm glad that he, like, it's, it's big of him to admit that he wasn't thinking about it. I think so too. And that, that did change him. Exactly. Because no matter what, it's even like, because, you know, I always think of like victims

and I always try to make sure that we are telling their story more than the killers. And it's like, but just talking to family members of victims, like talking to Mollie Bish's sister and talking to Sarah Turnie and talking to anybody who has been touched like firsthand by a Clifton sister. Maddie Clifton said, like it will even if you feel like you are doing the best that you can to like you sure. You could always do better. When you talk to a victim's family member, it all of a sudden takes you into like, no,

I could do better. Like even if you feel like you're doing better, you're like, well fuck, what else can I do for like, exactly. It really does, it changes you. So like, I'm glad that he came out and said that. I thought it was really cool. And I think it's cool to be able to admit when you fucked up with a shirt, be like,

yeah, like, and I grew from it. Yeah, exactly. I like that he said like, it's, you know, you can have your dick swinging in the wind. That's a really funny one. It's true though, like, he sounds awesome. Yeah. Now, Alvin Wentrob had the house demolished actually in 1995,

and they built a new home on the property that he decided to name Villa Bella. Oh, I love that. Which is nice. And he also got a new address for the place, which is probably smart. I'm not going to say because you can find it. Because the whole point is that it's too much.

But Trent actually took the front door to just like have like, he lived there. So he wanted some kind of memory, I guess. And he had it for a while. And then it got sold to it. He used it for like a recording studio in New Orleans. And then when they left that music studio, somebody bought the building.

And then this random guy from New Orleans has the door now. Oh, OK. Wow, that's interesting. That it's just like made its way to New Orleans. Oh, okay. Wow, that's interesting. That it's just made its way to New Orleans. Yeah, right. It thoughts are too. Now, as for the Gene Harlow JC Bringhouse, some people say that there were two more suicides

that happened in the house between the time that Paul Burndyde and when JC Bring bought the home. Oh. And that two people drowned in the pool. Oh, wow. So four more deaths. Oh, shit. I couldn't find any names or dates to

substantiate that. So I do kind of wonder if it's like just war. I was that's literally what I said, part of the lore. But people referenced it in like almost every source that you find about the house. Interesting. Now after J was killed, his parents sold the house to a doctor and his wife. And as far as I can tell, they still own the house. I didn't find anything to say that it's been sold since then. But sometimes people obsessed with the Manson family will trespass.

One time the owner caught two people who were like, Manson obsessed, he said, in a car in his driveway, having sex. Ew. And he was like, yeah, you can get the fuck out of here. That's fucked up. Don't go to other people's homes and do that shit. Yeah, that's like, you think that it's something interesting. They're living there. It's also just like, what the fuck out of here. That's fucked up. Don't go to other people's homes and do that shit. That's like, you think that it's something interesting.

They're living there. It's also just like, what the fuck? But actually, there was a guest house on the property too, and it was eventually made into its own property. And in 2013, it sold for $995,000. Oh, interesting. So that is the tale of Jean Harlow and Paul Byrne and their haunted ass house.

Wow, and I had no idea that it would connect back to the Manson family. Neither did I. That's a wild twist. I didn't see coming. Crazy, isn't it? Damn. Yeah.

That's crazy. Truly is. Wow, Jean Harlow, who knew? Who knew? Who knew? But I thought this whole thing. I was like, wow, this was a fucking whirlwind. That's it, it's like Betty Page when you cover that one all of a sudden I was like what?

You're like where's the true crime in that? I was like oh, let me tell you all about each time with these Hollywood ones I'm like oh cool fun Hollywood and then you go through it and I'm like cut what you're like Hollywood and I'm like Hollywood How many times I gotta tell you my name may not But many and already no more. It's ice. Ice. This is ice. This is ice. Ice.

Go watch Focus Focus. Imagine if we were just like, came out of ice. You gotta watch Focus Focus. It's the season. Yeah. Spooky. You gotta do it.

Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. All right. Well, as always, we hope you keep keep listening and we hope you keep it weird. But I know as weird as the man's in family like literally ever. Oh yeah, no. Don't even go to like the boundaries of that weird. Oh and not so weird that you have two whole us wives. Now don't do that.

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