Morbid - Episode 282: Murder in the House of Gucci

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

Father, Son, House of Gucci!! That’s right baby, Ash did a deep dive into all things Gucci for this episode. Gucci as a company was founded in 1921 in Florence Italy by Guccio Gucci. Over the years the family business was passed through generations and eventually ended up solely in the hands of Maurizio Gucci. Unfortunately in 1995 Maurizio Gucci was killed by a hired hitman. Who hired said hitman? Gucci’s ex-wife Patrizia Reggiani. #AMereBowlOfLentils As always, thank you to our sponsors: HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/morbid14 and use code morbid14 for up to 14 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Everlane: Go to everlane.com/MORBID and sign up for 10% off your first order plus free shipping Noom: Start building better habits for healthier, long-term results. Sign up for your trial at Noom.com/MORBID Embr: Get $50 off by going to embrwave.com/Morbid See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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They are. But yeah, hi, it's a post Thanksgiving festivities and we are feeling that. I think everybody is feeling that it was good. It was good Thanksgiving. Wow, you're like really underselling it, my dude. Yeah, I think I mean it was good. It was good Thanksgiving. Wow, you're like really underselling it, my dude. Yeah, I think I mean it went well. I cooked a turkey, so it worked. Oh, she. Not turkey. It was primo. Well, little herb garlic rub, herbs, herbs, herbs,

garlic, delicious. Well, but everything that I was excited about just turned out so well. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm glad that it I was excited about just turned out so well. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm glad that it's over. It was fun while it lasted. Yeah, I'm really excited to spend the next week at your house eating your leftover. Exactly.

Which I have plenty. Sorry, I was just yawning while I said that. Wow. It's really happening. The hangover is happening. The hangover is what's happening. But yeah, I also just wanted to say how excited I was that everybody liked that was there to ball

as dark secrets episode. Yeah, people were stoked on that. Seems like that was a hit. So that makes me happy, because it was really interesting to do, and I'd love to do more of them, but I was like, I'm gonna try it out. Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks. And if people hate it, I'm gonna go,

sorry, we missed, all right, we're never doing that again. See you later. Yeah, we missed, all right. We're never doing that again. See you later. Captain, we got ya. But it seems like, I saw nothing but people being like, wow, that was fun and scary and awful. So it was all too much. That's all I can ask for with one of those episodes. Fun, scary, awful.

I was telling Drew like some of the things from the episode, because he hasn't listened to it yet. And he was like, what? So what? I know that. I know, now John is very frustrated because the girls wanted to watch it the other day and they put it on. And as I was cooking, everyone's in a while,

I just run into the Roman whisper in his ear. That's asbestos, asbestos. She's wearing gloves because she had third creeper. And that's a real fucking lion. And he was like, can you stop ruining this? Or they just got smacked. Like literally after the right before the scene, she got slapped in the face.

Just like fucked, it literally happened. That's horrible. I'm Victor Fleming. I'm still really mad about that. Yeah, I'm mad about it. I'm gonna slap somebody. I'm still mad about what Hollywood did to Judy, but you know, we'll get into that another episode.

In this episode, we are also kind of like in a Hollywood. Hollywood? Hollywood! No, you're ready. We are also kind of like in a Hollywood. Hollywood. Hollywood. No, you're ready. We're talking about father, son, and house of Gucci. I am so excited. And honestly, go find the clip of Lady Gaga. There's a talk of it. I think that's where I'm originated from because it is, it just will make your day. It's a talk of it. Please go find it. I'm like originated from. Because it is, it just will make your day. It's also one of those things that you, no matter how hard you try, you cannot stop saying like,

father to son and how sub-goochie. It's not even a song to say. But I can't stop saying. It's like stuck in my head, but it's like somebody saying something. It's not a song, but it's melodic. It is melodic, you know? And it's G-G-G-A. And you know? Everything she does is just. It's just art a song, but it's melodic. It is melodic, you know? And it's Gagah.

And you know, everything she does is Gagah. Art. Yeah, I mean, art pop. Gagah is how I met your feel say. Feel say. Yeah, they literally met at a Gagah concert. We did it. I love that that's our villain origin story.

villain origin story for the win. I love it. Me and Drew met outside of a forever 21. And that's a true favorite. That is a true villain or we met at the Nadek Mall outside of a forever 21 on black Friday Actually our little our meat of her series coming up. I don't know I'm a person because we were friends for a while adorable But we got together before we go together together I love that for you. Yeah. But here we are.

We're going to talk about Gucci. And we're going to talk about a pop culture hot commodity. Whoa. This is the murder of Maurizio Gucci. Maurizio. Maurizio. I think I'm saying that right. I looked up how to pronounce it.

You did. I heard it. A lot of other people say it like in like 57 different ways. So that was my favorite. Maurizio. I was going to say the one I like the most. It was often Maurizio. Mauriz most. She was often, what eats you. What eats you.

And I can say it like that, so. Fuck yeah. Like I can't roll my ours or anything like that. I don't know. Yeah, see, I can't do that. And it bumps me out. It makes me feel inadequate and sad. So.

You're not inadequate. Your parents are. It's genetic. There you go, I was just gonna say it's genes. What's never meant to you? You're not inadequate, your parents are. All right, but you know, if you don't know what Gucci is, I'm sure most of you do, but just on the off chance that you don't. Gucci. Gucci. It's one of those Italian-based luxury brands that's been around essentially forever.

The brand was actually started in 1921. Oh, the Roran 20s. Yes, and it was started in Florence, Italy. And it was a stroke of genius thought up by a man named Gucci-O-Gucci. Of course. Yes. I guess it was. Gucci-O-Gucci. I know, never would I question that. That's that's exactly correct.

And that's where the double G logo comes from. Oh! Look at that. So he was the son of a leather craftsman, actually. And when he was a teenager, he was working at a hotel, and he was like loading the bags on and off the carriages for the guests. And while he was working one day, he was like, wow, a lot of this luggage is ugly as fuck, direct quote.

And he was like, it's kind of just like not practical at all. And my daddy-o is a leather craftsman, so like, I can probably figure out a way to make my own luggage that's way better looking and way more functional. Yeah, you can Gucci. And I could probably make a pretty penny do in it because my name is Gucci. Gucci. You're right. So he got to work with his idea. And like I said, in 1921, the first Gucci store was opened in Florence, Italy.

So along the way, Gucci became like a family business, just like a lot of other powerful fashion houses. Prada. Versace. Versace. Versace. Versace. Look at that. You've seen a showgirls that she says that. Oh yeah. It's precise. Versace. So Gucci O had four sons who he really, excuse me, really kept up the business with him. So Gucci O had four sons who he really, or excuse me, really kept up the business with him. They were Aldo, Vasco.

Vasco, Hugo, I believe, and Rodolfo. One of our best men was Vasco, high-bosco. Yeah. So they were the ones who later urged him to expand Gucci all the way to New York because at the time that they wanted to go into New York, it was like, I mean, it always has been, but especially back then, it was like a fashion hub.

So Gucci wasn't really interested at first. He was like, I really want to keep the brand in Italy. I want it to be a small brand, like family-based, you know? But he did not achieve that. He did not. It is not a small brand. He wanted it to be like, like, Italy-based and like, not for everybody. Yeah.

He really wanted it to be like- Exclusive, very exclusive not for everybody. Yeah. He really wanted it to be like, very exclusive. Very exclusive. Very exclusive. Yeah. But the older he got, the more and more his sons kind of started to control things. And actually two weeks before he died,

the first door opened in New York. Oh wow. Yes, so they were definitely like going behind his back. Wow, it's like succession. It literally is this whole thing is like succession. Yeah, like Italian succession. Just wait. But it ended up being a really good decision for them to go to New York because at that point Gucci took off globally. All this loves are wearing Gucci shoes especially and traveling

with Gucci luggage. Just Gucci this Gucci that. It just sounds right. I fucking love Gucci. Like it just sounds luxurious. Gucci. Yeah, I wouldn't even have to see it. And I'm like Gucci. It's definitely luxury. Yeah, like that's a, that sounds luxurious. And also like is like synonymous with good. Like people say like that's Gucci.

Oh yeah, that's true. Like I used to say that all the time. I used to say that when I was a teenager. She did. She did, I can't convert. Or like people would be like, what's Gucci? Like, what's good? Yeah.

So there you go. Me. But me. Sadly, Gucci O died in 1953, and he left the family business to his sons. Now, two of those sons Aldo and Rodolfo had their own sons, so they were brought into the family business once they were old enough. Now, Aldo had three sons, Georgio, Paolo, and Roberto.

Oh, and... Love it. Rodolfo had one son, Maurizio Gucci. Oh, I heard that name. You done, you done heard it. I heard it. So together, Aldo shared 50% of the company with his sons, and Rodolfo owned 50% with Maurizio.

Okay. But obviously the four people on one side of the company and two on the other, there were some power struggles. Oh, for sure. And honestly, the power struggles weren't on the part of families, one family versus the other. They were just internally all against each other. Cool, all of them.

In fact, at one point, Palo was looking through the books and he saw that the US sales were doing really well, but then he noticed that Gucci the company wasn't really reflecting any of those sales. So he started doing some more digging into the matter and he found out that his father, Aldo, had offshore accounts where he was hiding this money. So he could keep it all for himself and avoid paying taxes on it. Shade. So when Paulo found this all for himself and avoid paying taxes on it. Shade.

So when Paulo found this out, he brought the matter to court. And his, I think his father was like 81 years old at this point. And was sentenced to a year and four at a prison. Wow. He sent his father to prison at 81 years old. I bet that makes everybody feel better about their Thanksgiving with their own families.

Probably. Like, that was my goal, guys their Thanksgiving with their own families. Probably. That was my goal, guys. Damn, yeah, nuts. Wow. And that was not the only time a member of the Gucci family would do some digging and try to get another person in trouble for it. The brothers, cousins, and uncles were always arguing in the offices about how they wanted the company to run, what they should be doing, where they should be doing it.

And a lot of the arguments really came down to the fact that one of them wanted to be the head honcho, of course, but there was five of them. So that makes it tough. That's not really a workout. And at the time, too, it's like the public was well aware of the turmoil. They were always in the tabloids for like some kind of lawsuit or some kind of argument, anything. But strangely enough, the brand didn't really suffer

because of that. It just made it more popular. Yeah. And it kept Gucci in the headlines, which honestly, that's what you want. No press is bad, press, I suppose. That's what they say in the business. Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham,

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And fucking Gucci-Air slug. Of course they were. Go off. Yeah. Now unfortunately, when Maritzo was five, his mother actually passed away. Oh. And his father at that point became really

overprotective of him, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, for sure. And Maritzo started working in the package room of Gucci when he was 15 and kind of like learned the ropes and kind of just grew up in the environment. Yeah. So in 1970, Flash Forward, he's a young man. He meets the woman that he's going to marry. Patrizia Regiani.

Yeah, duh. And they met at a party in Italy for the upper echelon. Patrizia came from a good amount of money, but nothing like the background that Maurizio had. Patricia's mother, Sylvanna, was a waitress who had her with a man who pretty much just like walked out of their lives at the second that she came into the world. But when Patricia was around 12 years old,

her mother remarried to a man named Ferdinando Regiani, and he adopted Petrizia. Now he was an entrepreneur who made a lot of money in the trucking business, so Petrizia never wanted for anything. He bought her like fancy sports cars and luxurious for coats like damn she could play with the best of them. Now when Maurizio laid eyes on Petrizia for the first time, he allegedly said to his friend at the party, who was that beautiful girl dressed in red who looks like Elizabeth Taylor?

Oh, what a compliment. She did look like Elizabeth Taylor. Elizabeth Taylor was such a like, stanna. Such a moment. Oh, she was. God, and Patricia later said, I didn't think much of him at first. He was just the quiet boy whose teeth crossed over at the front.

So that's how they felt about each other. Yeah, but what a what a me cute really to really think across over the front like that's that. That's not his fault. I mean somehow the two of them really hit it off and they began dating. I guess she got over his overbite. Yeah, I don't know. But two years after the party, they were both around 24 years old and they had decided

they were going to get married. There was a problem with that. Oh, Maurizio did not like Patricia. At all. He thought she was a gold digger and he didn't want Maurizio to marry her. Wait, who didn't like Patricia? Maurizio's father. Oh, he didn't want Maurizio to marry her. Wait, who didn't like Patrizio? Maurizio's father. Oh, okay, you said Maurizio didn't like her.

And it was like he didn't like her. Wait a second, he's playing a long con. He didn't like her. No, no, no, Maurizio's father. Rodolfo didn't like Patrizio. Okay, okay. A lot of... I was just gonna say, there's a lot of different names happening,

so like I'm very impressed without you doing this, right? She's trying. So yeah, Rodolfo did not want Maurizio. I'm Patrizio, I'm petrizio's a lot of different names happening, so I'm very impressed without you doing this, right? She's trying. So yeah, Rodeo also did not want Rodeo and Petrizia to get married because he was like, she's a gold digger and Ritzo was like, well, she also comes for money and he was like, but you're a Gucci. You're a Gucci. You're a Gucci.

And he threatened Maritzo by telling him that if he married her, he'd be out of the family business. And Maritzo didn't fucking care and married Patricia anyways. He's on Maverick. So Virdolfo eventually came around to the idea and he didn't want to be disconnected from his only son. Of course not. So Maurizio continued to work for the family company and he was bringing in good money

and his father ended up buying him in Patricia, a penthouse in New York City And then they had like multiple other properties. They had a farm in Connecticut a ski chalet and fucking Switzerland damn like they were all over the place And because of who they were and where they came from he and Patricia were very well connected They hang out with people like Jackie O Whoa literally hanging out with Jackie O. And they were always throwing lavish parties with like tons of well-known guests. And Petrisa's favorite thing to do was theme parties,

especially collet- Oh, really? theme parties. There was one where everybody had to wear either yellow or orange, and they only served yellow or orange foods. Ooh. Which like-

That's weird. Macaroni and cheese, let's do it. I was just gonna say, I'm trying to think of all the yellow or orange foods. Ooh. Which, that's weird. Macaroni and cheese, let's do it. I was just gonna say, I'm trying to think of all the yellow or orange foods right now. Pineapple, mac and cheese, oranges. They probably like died shit. Yeah. There's probably like a lot of sushi. I got a lot of sushi going on.

Just really rich people doing weird, rich beef shit. Yeah. And eventually they had two daughters together, Alessandra in 1977 and Allegra in 1981. Ooh, beautiful names. I know, I love all these names. I know, right? Like damn.

I want to be Italian so bad. Yeah, everything's so pretty. I actually did 23 and me in the hopes to find out that I was Italian and I didn't find out that I was Italian. I am 1.4% Italian. I found out that I have Jewish blood, though. Yeah, that was interesting. I'm like 7% Jewish. Wow. And then I say that I was Italian. I am 1.4% Italian. I found out that I have Jewish blood, though. Yeah, that was interesting.

I'm like 7% Jewish. Wow. And then I say that's my dad and he was like, yeah, I know. And I was like, why didn't you tell me? Maybe I can never tell me. Why would you not tell me? But this isn't about me, this isn't about me.

But Dresia. And over time, she became known as Lady Gucci. Ooh, which is cool. Imagine. I'm trying to funny if you think about what's going on now. Yeah. Because Lady Gaga is playing Lady Gucci lady Gaga funny. Imagine being known as lady Gucci like yes, I all imagine that every day for the rest of my life. It's just like yeah

iconic. Can you imagine like you're just like dripping in Gucci and people call you lady Gucci? Yeah, she calls lady anything is really something to aspire to. Do you want me to just call you Lady Elena for you? Yeah, just call me Lady Elena, please. She's not as Lady Gucci anymore. No, no, but before we get to there, she was like the social one of the couple. And she had a lot of ideas on what to do with the company. She was always suggesting different things to Maurizio.

She wanted him to be more aggressive when then the company, probably for the money aspect of it all. She had like a lot of ideas, but he didn't want to hear her ideas and neither did his cousins or his uncles or really his father. They were like, yeah, this is like Man's work. Ooh, these designer bags are Man's work.

It was like Donner, you know, Rudolph's dad from Rudolph the Red Dones Rain Day. Yeah, toxic masculine. Yeah, we all around. My hands work. Man's work. Okay, don't worry. But Patricia and Maurizio's marriage got really rocky all the sudden when Radolfo passed

away. And when his father died, Maurizio, all of the sudden had that 50% stake in Gucci, all to himself. Oh. And his uncle and his three cousins are sharing their 50%. Oh, so he's the power. Yeah, the power has shifted. and his uncle and his three cousins are sharing their 50 percent. So he's the power. Yeah, the power has shifted.

But this happened at a time where Gucci was not doing well at all. And he and all his cousins had different ideas about what should be going on to fix it. Because Gucci's main problem at the time was that they had over license the business, meaning a lot of stores had opened, and the brand was kind of becoming more and more mainstream, deluded, anybody could really, like, put Gucci in their windows. Yeah. And that's not what the company was founded on. No. And it was just becoming less of a luxury brand. And it ended up costing them about a hundred million dollars with all those licensing. The bags were also being mass produced at this time,

and it was just kind of like really like falling off of what it was. Some Maurizio felt like it would be better for him to hone in the reins and bring Gucci back to what it was supposed to be, like super well crafted leather goods for only the filthy rich and incredibly famous, obviously. But unfortunately none of them could agree what to do and things started getting nasty.

So again, they all start finding dirt on one another. Aldo was able to find out at one point that Maurizio was forging his father's signature so that he wouldn't have to pay inheritance taxes. Oh, damn. Yes. So he and his sons made that news public hoping that they would be able to gain back the majority sharing So she it's successions. They really is but so Marita was found guilty But later was acquitted huh and during that time he literally fled to his shelle in Switzerland. Yeah as one does like wow

Way to show your guilt there by dog as you do when you're caught doing that shit Also at one point or another Paulo I was like, wow, wait a minute, show your guilt there by the end. As you do when you're caught doing that shit. Exactly. Also, at one point or another, Paulo pressed his brothers and Maurizio with assault charges because he left a meeting with this huge gash on his face because things became physical. What the fuck? There was also one point in time

where they were all arguing with each other over the bags and the people about cleaned the offices are coming into work and all these Gucci bags are just on the front lawn. Like they were like, they thought the place got robbed because there was just all this Gucci merch and dice like on the front lawn of the building. And they were just fighting about it. They're like, what the hell, but yeah,

they were just fighting about it. Wow. So yeah, clearly things were exploding and Mauricio needed to find a better way to make it so that the company was solely his. So he started getting on the phone and talking to different investment companies, and over time, he became connected with InvestCo. InvestCo was founded in 1982, and according to their website, they are, quote, a leading global manager of alternative investments with six lines of businesses, including private equity,

real estate, absolute return investments, infrastructure, credit management, and strategic capital, which is all gibberish. I knew all of that. Yeah, I don't know. But when Maurizio got a hold of them, they already owned pretty powerful and luxurious companies, like Tiffany's.

That's a pretty powerful and luxurious company. I'd say so. So he felt confident that with their help, he'd be able to bring his visions for Gucci to life. Yeah. So Investco ended up buying Aldo in his remaining sons shares of Gucci for about $135 million in 1988. Whoa.

So bought them out of the company. Wow. So now Mauriz of the company. Wow. So now Maurizio is, he owns, he's the sole owner. He's, while kind of, but like, Investco also owns part of it. Yeah. Because they bought their... But now it's out of the... But he's like the only fan of him.

Yeah. So Investco ended up owning 47.8% of Gucci. And Maurizio basically owned the rest. And became chairman. So, he's chairman. Yeah. And like, he just wins. 47.8% of Gucci and Maurizio basically owned the rest and so chairman the he's chairman. Yeah and like he just wins. And what is it called when you're like you own majority majority share. Yeah majority share. I was like majority share. What was the most of it? What are the

words that are coming out? But the problem with this entire arrangement here is that Maurizio is not that business savvy. No, and Gucci was still not doing very well. Patricia said that when Maurizio was running the business alongside his family, he listened to a lot of her ideas, but once his father died and he got the idea to run the business on his own, I think it like kind of got to his head and things changed and especially in their marriage, like it started to get even rockier. So one day he told her and his daughters

that he had to go on an overnight business trip. He had one bag packed and he headed out the door saying buy to them all and he literally just never came back. What? Just packed an overnight bag so that I'm going on a business trip and never came back. What? Just packed an overnight bag, said I'm going on a business trip and never came back. What?

Yes, I didn't know any of this. I had no idea. When I started digging into this, I was like, I'm sorry, hall. You're like, wait, what? What? She just never came back. Just never came back to them.

She said that the family's doctor passed along the message that Maria Cio would not be coming back. Oh, thank you. So like, have your checkup, your heart is doing well, your blood pressure could use some work and your husband's never coming back. So maybe we should recheck all that again. Like, I'm sorry. And apparently one day Maritio told Patricia, excuse me, Patricia, do you know why our marriage failed? Because you fancied yourself the president, and here there is only one president. Oh, she said that he said that, but sounds very theatrical.

Sounds the most theatrical. There can only be one Highlander. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. When Burrito left his family, he actually rekindled a couple of relationships, but the main one was with a woman named Paula Franci. The Franci, excuse me.

But it would be quite some time between when he left Patrizia and when their divorce would actually become finalized, their divorce took almost 10 years to become finalized. That's a fucking nightmare. And the reason was because Patrizia was not going to settle for just anything. During the reason was because Patricia was not going to settle for just anything. During the early years of the divorce, Maurizio's lawyers offered her a settlement of 2.5 million plus 650,000 per year. And her response to that was that it was, quote, a mere bowl of lentils.

lentils. Your $2.5 million plus $650,000 a year is a plate of lentils. Man, no. That's so far from a plate of lentils. Man, that's a plate of caviar. That's a Titanic-sized ship full of lentils. More. Just to begin. Way more. Just as the appetizer like that's just like that's like But that's just the bread. That's not even the appetizer Wow

2.5 million mere bowl of lentils like wow, I want to live your life, ma'am. Wow. Yeah, so when then you know what you know You actually think about it. You're like how out of of touch. With your body. Like damn, like you are, you have sailed away. Any common sense, you put away, and you said it best. You have any common sense, but you have, has just set sail. It is gone.

You never know what you're seeing again. I'm gonna give you $100 a year, and I'd be like, awesome. I'm gonna literally have to go, year and I'd be like, awesome. I feel like I'm gonna live to go. Let's go, bitch. Yeah, let's go. It's like, honestly, her common sense is like Mauricio that day that he just was like, bye.

I'm going for an overnight trip, but he just never came back. Not forever. That's her common sense. Honestly. Damn. But when the divorce was finalized in 1991, her final settlement landed at about $900,000.

And she still was not happy. She's like, it's not a million. Yeah, literally. She was also particularly angry with the way that Maurizio was running Gucci at this point. He hired a new designer, Tom Ford. I don't know if you've heard of him. No, no, no, no, no. He sounds like kind of like a, like, a, he's like an amateur.

He acts actually. He actually, well, he was. At that point, he actually was, but now he's credited with leading Gucci to their golden era, which he definitely did. When he took over as creative director, Maritzo felt like they needed to get rid of a lot of merch that they already had. And while that was a good move creatively, it was a very expensive move to just get rid of a lot of merch that they already had. And while that was a good move creatively, it was a very expensive move to just get rid of a lot of bags

and shoes that were not your deemed fashionable. My God. Like that's taking probably the biggest L you can take. That kind of thought process, just like these aren't cool anymore because I say so. Right. Like that's, I mean, that's literally fashion. But, but like, what if I like it?

Like, it's not. I make fashion changes every season. It's so strange to me that it's just like, no, I said so. It's fascinating. It's not cool anymore. Yeah, like, but I think it is. Like, it's so weird.

How like, and we just, we just fall in line. We just listen to it. It is weird. It's like the we just, we just fall in line. We just listen to it. It is weird. It's like the Miranda Priestly in Devil Wars Prada when she goes on the big rant about like, the Cerulean doll. Oh my gosh, yeah. And how it affects everyday life.

It's literally like a butterfly effect. But it is. It really is. I'm like, damn. When I was working on Newberry Street, I learned so much about fashion just based on like the people that I was working with. And I had this one mentor, Timmy,

Timmy, if you're listening, I love you. And you should be listening to this, as you love Gucci. And he taught me so much. You've just about like how everything works. And it really is fascinating. It really is. It was like, my Miranda Priestly moment.

But anyway, so yeah, they needed to get rid of like a lot of stuff and they took a big L. And this also happened during a time where Gucci was like heading toward bankruptcy. Oh, damn. that rid of a lot of stuff and they took a big L. And this also happened during a time where Gucci was heading toward bankruptcy. Oh, damn. I didn't know they were at all. Neither did I.

And I'm rocketing towards bankruptcy. At this point in time, they were headfirst toward bankruptcy. Like on a comment straight towards bankruptcy. Yes, literally. But Mauricio didn't seem bothered by that and he was still spending like he was used to. Yeah, he's like sending the Armageddon boys.

Let's do this. He's like, I don't give a single fuck. The company headquarters in Florence and Milan were incredibly expensive to keep up with. He and Paola were living in a lavish Milan apartment that cost a quarter of a million dollars per year. What? For rent.

And it was also decked out with like crazy art and like different trinkets. It was tiger shit everywhere. Oh yeah, you know it. He also owned a yacht, which clearly costs a lot of money to keep up with. I feel like that's just like one of those rich people things that everyone just gets a yacht

just to be like, I got a yacht. Like no one actually just like, it's just all have to get a yacht. I'm like, that's like a money pit. That's just a yacht. I'm like that's like a money pit. That's just a real boat is a money pit. It is but like a yacht. A yacht? A yacht?

A yacht? A yacht? Why does it smell like that? I don't know, English is weird. You're supposed to say yacht. Yeah. Ha. But yeah, he was making a lot of dumb decisions.

He was also like investing in like gambling, like casinos and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, it's not the best idea. Yeah need a footage of living in your nids. I literally like, you run Gucci, my guy. Yeah. But Patricia was also worried that he and Paola were going to get married. And if they did get married, she was specifically worried that they were going to have children, because Patricia would be losing a lot. At that point, she wasn't only living off the money that she got in her divorce settlement, but also the money that her two daughters were getting as the fucking heirs to Gucci. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that'll do it. And if they, like, if him and Paula had children together, there would be more heirs to Gucci, meaning less money for her to live off of. Yeah, and that's like totally her business. Yeah, you know, for a great, yeah, definitely. I mean, she basically just didn't want to see like another kid come along and mess up her meal ticket. Yeah, it's just like more fucked up story.

But for her, the hits just kept coming because, you know, Maurizio could not get control over that company at all. And in 1994, he ended up selling his remaining share to invest co for, I see different things, different places. I've seen anywhere from 120 to 130 million. Damn. So no Gucci works at Gucci anymore.

Wow. It's not family owned anymore. I did not know that. Yeah, neither did I. I don't know why I would have known that. But I still feel weird. I feel like I should, I don't know. It Yeah, no neither did I. I don't know why I would have known that. But I still think it's weird. I feel like I should, I don't know. It feels like something we should know.

You're right, like I feel like there's no way I would have known that. There's no opportunity for me to know that. No. But I still feel like I should have known that. I feel remiss. I do too, I don't know why. No Gucci and this was for the first time since 1921.

Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, and I mean it's a big fucking deal. That's also sad. It is very sad. Like it's sad for the original Gucci. Gucci, oh. Yeah, it's sad for Gucci, oh. It was funny I was watching a couple documentaries for this

and there was a woman in one of them and she said a lot of times with family companies, the third generation is where it gets fucked up. The third generation is where they just go all year. Yeah, it was interesting. I was like, I kind of want to look more into that. See if it's like some kind of like pattern here. Yeah.

Huh. Yeah, so that was the first time since 1921. Yeah. It's so crazy. So obviously Patrizia was fucking living. Yeah. That was the final straw. She later said about this decision, quote,

I was angry with Maurizio about many, many things at that time, but above all this, losing the family business, it was stupid, it was a failure. I was filled with rage, but there was nothing I could do. He shouldn't have done that to me. Oh, the end is so dark. I don't like that. Look, I'm like, okay, yeah, all right.

It's just like, oh, it just wasn't a good, and you're like, yeah, it wasn't. Like I can't do that, totally. It's just so sad. She shouldn't have done that to me, and you're like, oh, oh, okay. Well, it's like, oh. That wasn't your family business.

Well, that's like, I wasn't to you. No, girl. But like, she felt like it was a personal work. Absolutely. So once the business was sold, she started talking to any and everybody about how she wanted to off this man. She wanted him.

She wanted him. She did. She talked to the police. Can you imagine just walking around talking about how you're going to kill your ex-husband and father of your children? Girl, are you ready? For selling shares of a company. Like what?

That is his family's company. He has actually nothing to do with you. You're actually divorced and you get $900,000 a year. Like, okay. At a birthday party for her daughter, her like a ton of people were there, and her lawyer was there. And she asked her lawyer what would happen

if she quote, got rid of Mr. Gucci. That's murder. You get in trouble for that. So we'll tell you. I think he like kind of just like pushed that to the side and brought up it to the floor. Like I need your real legal advice. Like you could have asked somebody on the street I think he kind of just pushed that to the side and brought up it to the topic. Like I need your real legal advice.

Like you could have asked somebody on the street and they tell you the same that you're gonna get in trouble. She probably did ask somebody on the street that day too. She saw him again a month later and she asked him again what her fate would be. Should she off the father of her children and he actually got to the point

where he sent her a letter formally asking her to stop talking the way she was. Oh man. Like the formal course. Because he's like, I don't really want my next meeting with you to be in a courtroom defending you for Capitol murder. He's like, yeah, I'm actually all set.

But that did not stop her. She would ask her cleaner if her husband knew anybody that would take care of Maurizio. She said of the whole thing, quote, I have to admit that for a time, I truly wanted to get rid of him. I wanted to do it. And so I was going around asking for people to do it. But my intentions ended there. A mere obsession, a mere desire.

What wife has never said, I'd kill that guy. Me, I've never said that. I wrote in my notes. I'm not a wifey just yet, but me. I can, yep, I can safely say, we're coming up on 10 years. I have not once thought of murdering John or having someone else murder, John. I'd kill that guy. Never have I said I'd kill that guy.

Never. I can tell you. Because the whole point of Mirage is that you don't want that guy to get killed or kill him. Yeah, no, I don't want that at all. Yeah, same. So wrong, Patrisia. Patrisia.

Patrisia is wild in. But Mauricio didn't seem to be scared at all about her sudden interest in having him killed. I don't know what he thought. If maybe he just thought she wasn't actually capable of doing it or what. Yeah, you have to think like, who thinks that's serious? But if somebody was talking to every fucking topic

in Harry, that's really fucked up. I'd go somewhere else. Well, I understand just like not grasping the fact But if somebody was talking to every fucking topic and Harry about killing me, I'd go somewhere else. Well, I understand just like not grasping the fact that someone's back crazy. Of course. Especially someone you were married to, had children with. Yeah, but on her end, I also wouldn't think that

like somebody would just like say they're going on a business trip and never come back. That's true. I forgot he did that. Yeah, he did that. So much shit is going down. I'm forgetting what's going on. Lots of, I mean, somebody sent their 81 year old father for a person. Holy shit true. I forgot he did that. Yeah, he did that. So much shit is going down. I'm forgetting what's going on. Lots of, I mean, somebody sent their 81-year-old father

for a person. Holy shit, and I forgot that. Gucci. Too much Gucci. But so Maurizio not scared. Paula, his partner there, it's scared. Good, yeah. Paula, I feel you.

Not feeling it. She said of Patricia, quote, Patrizio was stalking us. She still had spies in Maurizio's circle and she knew all about our plans, his business dealings and everything. She called many times abusing him and threatening to kill him. I begged him to hire a bodyguard, but he refused.

He didn't believe Patrizio would go through with her threat because of their girls. Oh, that's really sad. Of course it is. The way I just said that, I was like, obviously Elena. Yeah, it is. Okay. So invested in this right now. Like, yeah, it is, okay. It is really sad. Of course it is. The way I just said that I was like obviously Elena. Yeah, it is. Okay. So invested in this right now. Like yeah, it is, okay. It is really sad. So around this time, Patricia's friend, Josepina Aurema. Yeah. I did good with that. You did great. I think I'm Italian essentially. I think you are. Every Italian is like, man, you are not. You are not. But so,

Patricia, her best friend, Josep Josephina Audiama, was living with her so that she could help Patrizia write a book about her marriage and the time spent within the Gucci family. Now, that was in 1994. And two years previously, Patrizia actually had been diagnosed with a brain tumor. Oh wow. So luckily the tumor was benign, but they still obviously had to remove it. And after surgery, she felt like she needed help making sure to remember certain things when it came to writing the book. So that's where it's a peanut came in.

We'll just refer to her as peanut, because that's like how they were going to turn. This surgery was also one of the things that drove Patricia's hatred toward Maurizio because she felt like he abandoned her when he didn't show up to this surgery. In all reality though, the doctors had told him not to come because they were like, that's gonna stress her out

and we're removing a brain tumor. So that's not great. So you can't really have her in that state. But she woke up and she saw that he had sent flowers with like just a very cold note, like feel better Maurizio or whatever. Cause you know, they're divorced. But she was outraged that he didn't come to her,

that like the note was so cold. I think for her, that was like a final fuck you. Like he sold the business and she took that as a fuck you. He left her and she took that as a fuck you. And I think a lot of these things, like she was taking personally, because later on she was actually diagnosed as an arseist. So she took like everything personally.

That makes sense. Yeah. So this was like not good. But anyways, while Pina was living with Patricia, Patricia was going on and on still about how she wanted Mr. Gucci dead. She asked Pina if Pina knew anybody who was gonna be willing to do this.

Well, this, and she enlisted her help in trying to find somebody. So Pina was like, I don't know if I know anybody that would wanna kill somebody, but I'll try to help you out, literally. So then she thought. Who answers that way? I mean, that's not a direct quote,

but like, I can't help it. I'd be like, who's just like, who's not like, no. Right. Pina. She was like, actually, so I don't know if I know somebody who would pull the trigger, but I do know somebody that might be able to help us. Now, this man's name was Ivano Savioli.

He worked at a really CD hotel where Pina had stayed before, even though she was friends with Patricia, she did not come from the same walk of life. She'd like struggled. So when Pina reached out to Ivano, he said he knew someone who could help, and he called a pizza man that he knew, named Aurezio Sikala. Wow. A pizza man.

Wow. Now Aurezio would not be the one to carry out the hit either, but he knew a guy who's getting too deep here. And I believe this man was a neighbor of his who was a mechanic. And his name was, I'm gonna try this one. I couldn't find a pronunciation. Benadetto Cerrulo. Yep, that's it.

He was going to be the man who would pull the trigger. There's too many people involved here. Oh, that is like one of the most often commented. Like there's literally like five people involved in this. Understatement of the century. And like one of them is like a pizza delivery. Yeah. One is a mechanic.

One works at a hotel. We've gotten way too far down the line of people. And it's just too many people who know. And you've involved too many people. Wait too many people. That ends up being the downfall. So he wanted a certain price though. His price would be six million. And he

wanted a down payment of one hundred and fifty million. I mean, he's good. He wants, he's, they want him to kill the air, the original air of Gucci. I mean, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you might as well shoot for the stars, I suppose. And that one hundred and fifty million, that was in like Italian currency. So yeah would be 365,000 US dollars at the time. Oh, OK. So when Pina went back to tell Patricia the plan, she agreed to the price, and they started working out the details.

This is so fucked up. It's fucked. So at first, it was kind of like Pina and Ivano and all the other players figuring it out. And Patricia was kind of like held away from it all. And then it wasn't happening as fast as Patricia wanted. And Patricia was like, no, get me his number, like let me call him. And she got the shit moving.

Wow. So on Monday morning, March 27th, Maurizio Gucci was walking to his office at Via Polesco 20 to get some work done. Now the door man, Giuseppe Onorato, said, quote, Mr. Gucci arrived carrying some magazines, which is like super weird to me because Versace was carrying magazines and newspapers.

Oh, that is weird. And said, good morning. Then I saw a hand. It was a beautiful, clean hand. And it was pointing again. So before he could realize what was happening, that hand pulled the trigger three times, shooting Marie-Zio Gucci in the back, and then for good measure, the trigger was pulled once more,

and the shot entered the back of Marie-Zio's head. Oh, damn. Yeah. The gunman then pointed the trigger at the door man, and at first, Giuseppe thought it was like a joke, and then he was actually shot once in the arm. But instead of worrying for himself, he went over to Maurizio Gucci and held him as he was dying. He literally Maurizio Gucci took his last breath in that man's arms. Oh, that's so sad. And Maurizio was 46 years old. Jesus. Crazy. So young. It's crazy young. So when word spread that the fucking air to

Gucci had been gunned down in broad daylight in the middle of Milan, people were shocked. And a lot of them had a lot of different ideas about who could have done this, what could have happened. Maurizio's cousin Palo thought that it could have been someone that Maurizio was in debt too. Which like, I was gonna say that's a good thought. And some people, and actually even the investigators early on, wondered if this was some kind of mob hit. There was also rumors that it was some kind of family vendetta since everybody knew about

the turmoil that had gone down over the years. But a lot of people, including Maurizio's partner Palo, also had the right idea, and knew that this murder had Patrizia's name written all over it. I was gonna say, I hope someone was like, hey guys. Hey, that lady, that's why I'm killing him for literally years. You know that person who was literally gone to the ends of the earth, talking about how she can kill this man,

and asking people to do it. They're like, I feel like we should question her about it. Yeah. Now, the investigators obviously thought she might have had something to do with it too, but they had no way of proving it because all they had was a description of the man who carried out the shooting.

The dormant said that the man looked to be about 40 to 45 years old and was wearing a baseball hat and a denim jacket. And he said he had dark hair. And then witnesses also saw a green car speeding away from the scene, but that was all. So, Patricia did multiple interviews after Gucci's murder. She claimed her innocence.

But the problem was, she didn't seem sad at all. Like, she barely cried in this funeral, like barely shed a tear. Come on. And was dressed, impeccably. But the day after the murder, Paula got a knock at her door and she was served eviction papers. The day after Maurizio died, Paula gets served

with eviction papers. And when she looked through these papers, she saw that they were notarized three hours after Maurizio had been killed. What? Yes, there was nothing she could do though three hours after Maurizio had been killed. What? Yes. There was nothing she could do though because there weren't any laws to protect

for her from something like this because they weren't married. And they weren't engaged or anything like that. So she had to pack her shit up and she had a young son and they had to get out of there. And it was Patricia. Oh, I'm so sad. Who did this, obviously.

And with that, Patricia and her two daughters moved into that apartment. What? Yes. I had no idea. Yes. The servicemen papers, the next day, and was like, get out.

And actually a very sad, Paulus, son ended up committing suicide later in his life. Oh, that's so sad. And he was only 16 years old. Oh, man. I think obviously this murder like really affected him. Yeah. And just like obviously other things I'm sure.'s so sad. And he was only 16 years old. Oh, man. Obviously, the smirter really affected him. Yeah. And just obviously other things, I'm sure.

But so sad. I felt so bad. That's really sad for me. And she was really painted as a gold digger too in the media. When they first got together, I think she said she was like, that's hilarious because the man that I left him to be with was like 10 times richer. So she's like, fuck all y'all. But Patricia would have quite some time

to enjoy her life with Gucci, not in and anymore, because for two years, this case went cold. How is she, like, I'm sorry. How did they not immediately figure out it was her? They just didn't have anything to cut. I feel like there was like a thousand ways to figure out it was her. I think like, they definitely knew that it was her,

but they just had the evidence. They just had nothing definitely knew that it was her, but they just didn't have the evidence. Nothing, like it wouldn't have held up in court. Until one night, January 8th, 1997, Philippo Nini, I think I said that wrong, and I'm really sorry. He was the head of police for Lombardia, and he got a phone call from a man named Gabriela Carponece. Gabriela said that he had been spending some time

at this really city hotel right outside Milan, huh, and that one of the workers there had been melting off about how he was the one who had found the guy that killed Gucci. Whoa. So he said that means name, that means name was Ivano Savioni. Uh-oh. But the question was how are they going to get Ivano to confess without screwing this whole thing up? So they were able to find out that Patricia actually still owed money for the hit, and that Ivano was getting really pissed off and was looking for someone to threaten her to give him the money.

Wow. Or like actually end up killing her. So they had an undercover police officer pretend that he was interested in the job. And he found out everything you had to know. Oh my God, I love it. They taped a ton of the conversations. He wore a wire. They wire tapped everybody involved all of their phones.

And there were tons of incriminating conversations going on. So finally, January 31st, 1997, all five involved in the hit were arrested. Oh my God, I love this is like insane. It's crazy. I just can't believe how this unravels. Me either. And one police arrived at Patrizia's home

or should I say Gucci and Palo's home? It was 4.30 in the morning. They were like, they hit her with those, like, hey, you're arrested. Hey, in the middle of the night. And she said, could you just wait a minute? And they said, sure, I don't really know why they said so. It's gonna say.

But they gave her some time to get herself together. And when she was finally ready for her arrest, she came down dripping in diamonds and gold jewelry and a floor length black mink coat. It's a fucking, it is a movie, but like, I have, I have no words. Patrice, yes. No words.

Asiss. Come on, girl, for what are you doing? So she told the police, I have nothing to do with this. And then they were like, yeah, Pina kind of told us everything to get a lesser sentence. And you were talking about it for like multiple years to about a thousand million people. And these like wire tapped phone conversations with your voice on them. Yeah, like they

tell a different story. But the main thing was that Pina turned on her and told them everything because obviously Pina wanted a lighter sentence. So she turned on Pina. Now, she said that she was tired, as a Pina said, excuse me, that she was tired of Patricia asking her to find somebody, and at this point, she was down on her luck and she needed the money. So Patricia said that Pina had actually blackmailed her

into paying this money, and she didn't know that she had actually paid somebody to carry out a hit. Yeah, I mean, how would you know? She just had to give her this money. It's an easy mixup. It's always, I mean, that always happens to me. Yeah, it's like I just get blackmailed

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He's just actually on the route that night. Yeah. Really know what happened. He's like, I'm not, I don't want to be part of this. He's like, I'm old. Yeah. Yeah. Can we not, guys?

Can we just, can we just really just blow through this? So Patrizio obviously realized that her whole like I don't know Anything about this act was not working So she and her lawyers came up with the idea to use that brain surgery to their advantage They said that there was no way she could have been able to come up with this plan She was recovering from brain surgery. Of course now the problem in that defense was that multiple people involved had already confessed Patricia had talked to many many people over the years saying that she wanted that multiple people involved had already confessed. But Trisia had talked to many, many people over the years saying that she wanted to kill Gucci.

And throughout the investigation, they found some interesting entries in her Cartier Diary. Her Cartier Diary. Her Cartier Diary. There was one entry, the day that she had her brain surgery that said, vendetta. Ooh. Remember how upset she was that Maurizio didn't show up,

Vee. And then a rather haunting entry on the day that Maurizio was killed just said, Patadiceos, the Greek word for paradise. Wow. Yeah. This is not real. No, it is not real. I also said Patadiceos, but it's actually just Patadiceos.

Okay, you know, I tried. You made a more flowery, I like it. This is not real. How is this real? She wrote Paradise the day that he was killed. Vendetta and Paradise, like, come on, man. I'm unreal. I'm speechless.

And like all of the wiretept won't come in. And all of that. So she tried to say that she actually just liked the word a lot and wanted to name her next villa that, but nobody was convinced. I'm literally obsessed with that defense though. I just like that word. I'm literally obsessed with that. She's like, I actually just want to name my next place that. It's an awesome word. It's a Gucci word.

I like it. I like it. It's really fun to say pet. A DC Italian language is so beautiful. Gorgeous, I want to speak it. That's why like all their names are so beautiful because they just sound pretty good. I should have heard the tongue. The key name was Paula. Yeah, just imagine.

I would never stop introducing myself to people. Any Paula's out there, like, hi I'm Paula. Get it. Just get it. Get it, Paula. It also reminds me of the Lizzie McGuire movie. Thank you.

Oh my god. Thank you. I got that from a Lisa. I'm just going to be don't watch her. You're crazy. Oh, you got to watch a Lisa. Oh, thank you. Anyways, in November of 1998, everybody involved in the hit was getting sentenced because

they were all like, yeah, you all did this. We have, of course, everything that we need to. Swapy is hell. So because Pina confessed, she got a plea deal and she was only sentenced to 25 years, which is still a lot of time. Yeah, that's actually surprising. It is.

Ivano Savione got 26 years for his involvement. Eurasio Sikala was sentenced to 29 years, which is, he was like the getaway driver and he got more time than the guy who actually organized. I was gonna say, I mean, because it's like a more active role I guess. Yeah, true. And then Benadetto Sarulo got a life sentence. Whoa! And Patricia received 29 years. Now, this is a fucking iconic. On the day that all of these people were sentenced, the Gucci stores in Italy all hung silver handcuffs

in their windows. Stop it allegedly. No, they did. Thanks. I refuse to believe that they didn't. Like, you know, you will never prove to me that they didn't. Because like Gucci, the company really tried to just like shy away from any kind of endorsement.

And this could be terrible for their brand. Yeah. But if they did that, can you confirm, did you live in Italy during this time? Yeah, confirm. Even if it didn't happen, please confirm. Please confirm. Please confirm that, because I need to know

that that happened. Yes, I do too. And also, in addition to her sentence, Patrizio was also ordered to pay that Dormand Giuseppe 142,000 Lira. Oh, wow. He said he has not seen a penny of that money to this day. And because he didn't have much money in the first place, he had to go back to work there.

Oh, come on. At the same place where he watched a man die. And it was also shot twice. And like held him while he died. Like talk about PTSD, you have to go back there every day. And how has he not seen a penny of that? Come on, that happens. Who's working on that?

It happens all the time though. Like people are sentenced to pay people. And they just don't. That's fucked. It is fucked. Oh wait, just wait. But while she was in prison, her lawyers made it so that she was able to bring her pet ferret

named Bambi with her. Come on, everybody. Guy, like, no. A ferret named Bambi. A pet ferret named Bambi in prison. Yeah, she stayed with her a while. Bambi and her together. But then this is really sad.

Animal sadness warning. Animal sadness? Animal sadness warning. Because Bambi died when another inmate sat on her, sat on the ferret, like, that's really mean. I don't know if it was intentional or not. It may have been an accident, but either way, it's fucked.

That's terrible. That's why ferrets don't belong in prison, guys. Yeah, that's why Bambi didn't get sentenced, man. You did. Yeah. Exactly, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Patricia was also attacked in prison on multiple occasions, but at the same time,

she also turned down multiple chances to gain parole. The reason being, because she would have to get a job if she was on parole, and she said, quote, I've never worked at my life, and I don't intend to start now. She also has said other crazy things. Oh, are you ready for an even ear when you ear you? She also said, quote, I would rather weep in a Rolls Royce than be happy on a bicycle. Wow.

Like, she is. I told you, it's... Rodealfo was correct. She is like money-hungry. She's a big digger. Common sense, logic. Smart's just big digger. Common sense logic. Smarts just on the window. Out the window.

On a ship. Out the window. Sail away, sail away, sail away. At Anya. That's called cradiding. But she appealed. But she appealed her sentence while she was in prison once. She again tried to use that brain tumor defense thing.

Stop. But her conviction was upheld. They did knock three years off the sentencing. And after her appeal, she tried to commit suicide, actually, by giving herself and herself with a bed sheet. But luckily, she was rescued before being able to do so. Damn. So ultimately, all in all, she ended up

serving 18 years of her sentence because she got credit for good behavior. That's not enough. And guess what? She is still making money off of the Gucci estate. That's horrifying. She is still, I repeat, making money off of the Gucci estate. In 2017, she got a new idea of almost $1 million a year

for the rest of her life from Gucci's estate. That's horrible. And she's owed back payments from the time that she was in prison, adding up to about $21.3 million US dollars. What? Back payments for when she was in prison for murdering Gucci.

Gucci owes her money from the time that she was in prison for murdering Gucci. Realize that. Make it make sense. Now, she would have to be paid that money from her two daughters who she no longer speaks to. I was wondering how that was going because they run the estate now

and they appealed the ruling, but they're actually still waiting to hear whether or not the Italian Supreme Court will side with them or their mother. And Patrizia said of her relationship with her daughters, quote, we are going through a very bad time now. They don't understand me and have cut off my financial support. I have nothing.

I haven't even met my two grandsons. Honey, you had their dad murdered. Yeah, like, they don't understand you. That's probably a good thing. Yeah. I don't understand you. That's probably a good thing. Yeah. I don't, wow, she's like outrageously out of touch. Outragiously. But these days, because she has to work, she's working for a jewelry company named Bozart

as a design consultant. And people see her shopping around sometimes, especially when she first got out of prison, she was shopping in like one of the most expensive places you could possibly shop in Milan, Italy, with a maca on her shoulder. She just, you know, she just wanted to blend right back in. She just really wanted to make a splash.

She just wanted to, she just seamlessly back into the fight. Just slide in maca and her shoulder. Wow. Yeah. And she told the Guardian, quote, if I could see Maria Tsio again, I would tell him that I love him, because he is the person who mattered most to me in my life.

I think he'd say the feeling isn't mutual. Well, I mean, the delusion kind of brings back to me. I was going to say, wow, she stopped at Port real quick. She did. For a quick minute. And then took off sailing away. And that is the story of Father Son and House of Gucci. Wow.

Craziness. No wonder they made that a movie. I haven't even seen the movie yet. Those poor daughters. Oh, I feel so terrible for them. I feel terrible for them. And at one point in time actually, the younger daughter, Allegra, went to law school to try to help her mom like fight her conviction. Yeah, but then she I think she slowly started to realize like

What she's working on here. Yeah, man. That's really sad. So sad all around what I'm there's a lot of like other darkness to that I didn't get into regarding like other members and through the generations, drama, drama, sexual assault, molestation, really heavy dark shit. It just didn't really pertain to this sunset of it. Yeah, you wanna stay on track, but. Oh, damn. She is dark.

Now I know why they made a movie out of it. I can't wait to see it. Adam Driver, Lady Gaga, let's go. Gaga. Good God. Well, about Lady Gaga. Oh, by the way, Patricia, I'm sure you know, if you like have been paying attention to this at all,

is pissed because Lady Gaga did not reach out to her. And she was like, how can she play me? She's never met me. How? And it's like, well, you're like a murderer adjacent. So adjacent. I don't, you're like, I don't know. I love that she's like, how did she not reach out to me?

It's like, ma'am. Ma'am, ma'am. Ma'am, Gagad does not need to talk to you. Like you said, she's murder adjacent. I don't need to talk to you. Get away from me. I can figure it out. They do not go so pure.

Yeah, we don't need her anywhere near Gagad. No, but apparently she does a really good patrisia. I heard she was amazing in it. I am dying, especially knowing what I know now. Oh yeah. Let's fucking die. I know now that you told me the story, and I'm like, I want to see it now.

No, I wish they were doing it, so it would go to your TV. I know. Like in the height of the panorama. Can we make everything just come to my TV? Because the mic is not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere. There's a new variant in check. Yeah, give me a like peak-ock.

Can you just, just, whoop, deliver it to my peak ock app. Just, whoop. That's what they did with Halloween kills. It was a great, good move. No, was it worth it? But it was there, it was there. It's all he showed up.

Just beam it into my TV, please. Come on, come on. Just asking for a friend. I don't even know who we're talking to, but like we're like, we're like, come on, the gods. Come on, man. Just do it. How's it going, Chi?. Just the man the man. Why is that it?

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