Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews - Q&A: Salt Water Benefits, Lifting Facial Expressions, HIT Training, Bulking Hunger, & More
Episode Date: December 13, 2023Should you feel hungry while bulking, or feel stuffed from the calorie surplus? Are there benefits to starting your morning with salt water? Should you train the same way in your 40s as you did in y...our 20s? In this episode, I'll explore these topics and many more, giving you the insights you need to adjust your fitness routine effectively while ensuring long-term health and performance. As always, these questions come directly from my Instagram followers, who take advantage of my weekly Q&As in my stories. If you have a question you're dying to have answered, make sure you follow me on Instagram (@muscleforlifefitness) and look out for the Q&A posts. Your question might just make it into a podcast episode! If you like this type of episode, let me know. Send me an email (mike@muscleforlife.com) or direct message me on Instagram. And if you don’t like it, let me know that too or how you think it could be better. Timestamps: (0:00) - Please leave a review of the show wherever you listen to podcasts and make sure to subscribe! (1:33) - Should you feel hungry while in a slight calorie surplus? Or does bulking feel like you're stuffing yourself? (3:33) - Should you add salt to your water first thing in the morning? (6:34) - What is one thing everyone should incorporate into their diet? (10:04) - Should you still have the same workout after your 40s compared to your 20s and 30s? (11:26) - Does making funny lifting faces increase output? (11:59) Midroll ad (13:19) - How much caffeine is too much in one day for a 185lb male? (14:41) - Is it true you can train side delts with more volume than other muscle groups? (16:11) - How to find your new TDEE after a long period of dieting? (17:55) - What are your thoughts on religion? (20:51) - Is there an ideal timeframe for resting between working out certain muscle groups? (23:14) - Does making faces in the gym increase wrinkles? (23:36) - Strategies for overcoming strength plateaus (25:12) - Single arm vs. double arm lateral raises (26:36) - Using slower tempos with light weights (28:09) - What are your thoughts on Mike Mentzer and Dorian Yates HIT training style? Mentioned on the Show: Our Biggest Sale of the Year Is Here! Save 50% during our Black Friday Sale. Go to https://buylegion.com/ and use coupon code MUSCLE to get double reward points!
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Hey there, I'm Mike Matthews and this is Muscle for Life. Thank you for joining me today for
another Q&A episode where I answer a bunch of questions that people have asked me over on
Instagram. So what I do is every other week currently, I put up a story over on Instagram
at Muscle for Life Fitness. Please, please follow me. Put up a story asking for questions. I get a
bunch of questions. I go through them and I answer a bunch of them there on Instagram. And then I
bring everything over here to the podcast because I can answer the questions
in more detail and I can share resources for people to go check out if they want to learn
more and so forth.
And so if you want to ask me questions, again, follow me at Instagram at Muscleful Life Fitness
and look for that story that I put up every other week, usually on Monday or Tuesday.
And so in today's episode, I am answering questions related to Mike Menser and Dorian Yates, their style of training,
the HIT style of training. One of my favorite lateral raise exercises that many people don't do,
but I think should do. What you should do if you are hitting a plateau in your weightlifting,
what's the first thing you should do, at least?
How long you should wait in between workouts for an individual muscle group?
Some of my religious thoughts.
How you can find your new total daily energy expenditure after you have been dieting for a long time.
How do you find your new maintenance calories and more?
for a long time? How do you find your new maintenance calories and more?
Vivian asks, am I supposed to have hunger feelings when at slight surplus, so calorie surplus,
feels like stuffing myself? Yes, that's fairly common. And it is kind of paradoxical, especially when you go from cutting to lean bulking and you're cutting and you are
experiencing a certain level of hunger and that's expected because you are restricting calories.
And then maybe you go to maintenance for a short period and then you go into a surplus and you are
generally more hungry, especially leading up to meals than when cutting. I've experienced that
myself and it's a pretty common experience.
More hunger when lean bulking than cutting, especially when you are coming up to, let's say,
within 30 to 60 minutes of your normal mealtime, at least for the first month or two when you are
in a surplus. It's kind of odd. And as far as I know, there isn't a clear cut explanation,
but it may be related to increased metabolic
activity associated with increased energy availability. So your body is just functioning
better with a bit more food and in various physiological ways that aren't immediately
obvious to you. And the additional activity going on in your body can influence your hunger, your body's demand for food. And if you're like
most people, though, within a month or two of being in a consistent calorie surplus, your hunger
levels normalize and you aren't getting the bulking hunger pangs before meals. And within a
couple of months, you experience the opposite. Actually, your appetite is going to go way down.
You are generally going to be just full all the time.
You're going to get sick of eating.
The final meal or two of every day probably is going to feel like force feeding.
That's also normal because that is what you are actually doing.
You are mildly force feeding, overfeeding your body when you are lean bulking,
just like how when you're cutting, you are mildly under eating. You are mildly starving your body.
That's what you're doing. Okay. Andrew McGillian asks thoughts on all the craze about adding salt
to your water first thing in the morning. Yeah, it's fine if you don't get much sodium in your
diet, which is usually because people prepare all their food and they don't use much salt when they
make the food. If that's not you, though, if you salt your food generously or if you know that
your sodium intake is at least a few grams a day, let's say four grams a day, then it's unnecessary
to add salt
to your water in the morning. It's not going to accomplish anything special per se, unless maybe
you're about to go run 10 plus miles in the Florida sun in June or something. And even then,
it's probably not necessary. You probably are okay if you just eat enough sodium in general,
which again, a few grams per day is adequate for
most people. And as a final comment, I know that runs contrary to what many other people are saying,
many influencers, many prominent people in the evidence-based health and fitness space,
but I can back that position up with research, with reasoning, with facts. And if you want to
check out the full argument, head over to
legionathletics.com, search for electrolytes, and you'll find an article with the title along the
lines of, are electrolyte supplements a scam? Check that article out. I believe I've recorded
a podcast based on that article too, so you could find the podcast if you prefer, and then you will
understand where I'm coming from. And finally, I'll just say that I would love to be wrong about
electrolytes. I would love to be able to sell an electrolyte supplement. I would love for Legion
to be able to offer that because many of our customers ask for it. And that's a pretty big
market. There's a lot of demand for those supplements, but I don't sell one. Legion does
not sell one because I can't make an honest, strong, evidence-based argument for why just about anyone should bother
with buying and drinking electrolyte supplements. And I've even gone as far as seeking out smart,
educated people like professors and PhDs to prove me wrong. People who believed that Legion could
offer an electrolyte supplement, Maybe the formulation would be a
little bit different than your average electrolyte supplement, but that would be an electrolyte
supplement nonetheless and would be useful and valuable to Legion's customers. And ultimately,
those conversations didn't change my position because I wasn't convinced of their arguments.
I felt like they didn't fully and satisfactorily address each
of the points that I brought up. And so as for now, my mind remains unchanged about the lack of
utility, the lack of value in electrolyte supplements for just about everyone. But I am
open to changing my mind. It's in my own self-interest to change my mind. So if you, dear listener,
think that you might be able to change my mind with evidence, logic, facts, send me an email.
Mike at MuscleForLife, F-O-R-Life.com. Okay. Con Air starring Nicholas Cage asks,
number one thing you wish every person would incorporate more of in their diet. This is easy.
would incorporate more of in their diet. This is easy. Plants, plant food. Please eat vegetables, eat fruit, eat grains, eat seeds, legumes. There is a massive body of evidence that shows
very clearly that the people who eat the most plants tend to live the longest. They tend to
experience the least amount of disease and dysfunction.
Please don't go looking for quacky pseudoscientific excuses to not eat plant foods because you don't
like vegetables or you would rather use those calories on meat and butter and bacon and cheese
and so forth. And please don't fall prey to the psychosocial dynamics
in play, the communities that have organized around different diet ideologies. For example,
you might resonate more with your average carnivore dieter than your average vegan.
And that's okay, but you should be aware of how that is going to influence your preference
for dieting, how that can steer you away from eating plant foods, which you identify with
vegans, which maybe on average don't resonate with you as an individual and toward animal foods
instead of plant foods, because that represents the type of people who you feel
best represent you. You have to be aware of those influences and you have to consciously
override them just because the majority of your calories come from plant foods, which they should
in a well-designed, balanced, evidence-based diet for maximum health, function, longevity, most calories should come
from plant foods. That doesn't mean that you are mostly a vegan or that you can't connect with
carnivore people, maybe in other ways, maybe not over food, but maybe over training or over
lifestyle or politics or whatever. And ultimately, sometimes you got to choose between being healthy and doing
what is objectively the smart thing to do, the highest probability play to achieving long-term
health and wellness, which is eating a lot of plant foods. You have to choose between that
and being light. And in my experience, dealing with many people over the years who have been
drawn into many different fad diets, they are often looking for two things. One, they're looking for a diet that
will confirm their biases. They don't like vegetables. So if a diet tells them they don't
need to eat vegetables because actually vegetables are bad for you. Vegetables have anti-nutrients
that are going to destroy your gut, destroy your health. It could even kill you. That is telling them what they want to hear, that they should eat the bacon cheeseburger rather than
the broccoli. And they're often looking for a sense of community, a sense of belonging.
And those two factors are just embedded in our DNA. We are all susceptible to them. All we can
do is try to force ourselves to face them and
consciously override them. Okay, getting off the soapbox, I'm going to share one more tip,
and that is a specific tip. So if I had to pick just one plant food that I wish every person
would incorporate more of in their diet, it would be spinach. Spinach is a nutritional powerhouse.
Please eat some spinach every day. All right.
Corey Brandon Barnes asks, real question. Should you still work out the same after 40 as you did
in your 20s and 30s? Good question. Well, the biggest difference between training in your 20s
and your 40s is mostly just the amount of room for error that you have with exercise form, with training volume, with training
intensity, with resting, deloading, and so forth. You can F around quite a bit in your 20s without
finding out, but not in your 40s. You have to train with a bit more wisdom in your 40s than in
your 20s. But otherwise, you can train more or less the same.
And if you want to learn more about that, a lot more about that, check out my book,
Muscle for Life, which is written specifically for men and women over 40 years old. And it
explains everything you need to know about flexible dieting to make meal plans that you
enjoy and that allow you to reach your fitness goals and maintain your fitness goals, allow you to build a diet that is a
lifestyle rather than an intervention. And of course, it also has training programs and it
explains all the theory behind the programs and what really drives muscle growth, what really
drives strength gain. And there are beginner programs for men and women, intermediate and
advanced, a lot of material in Muscle for Life.
Okay. Eric T. Sandoval asks, does making funny lifting faces increase output? My anecdotal
experience says yes. This would be a fun study to do, actually. I bet it does. I immediately think
of research that shows how swearing has been shown to reduce stress levels. I would not be surprised
if making ridiculous orgasmic like faces when you're deep into a set and trying to grind out
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Okay. Jack Conroy Patterson asks, how much caffeine is too much in a day for a 185 pound male,
especially when taking pulse? So the general advice for health is no more than 400 milligrams
per day on average. Now, some people can tolerate much more. Some people need to have less. Of
course, body weight comes into play. If you are a 250 pound dude, your body is going to deal with
caffeine better than a 100 pound gal.
But again, on average, most people would say three to 400 milligrams per day if you want to
just assign a range to it. And there are exceptions that have been noted in the literature. There are
plenty of people out there who have way more than that, who have a gram of caffeine per day on average or more and exhibit no negative side effects.
Now, chances are you are not one of those people. Remember, most of us fall in the middle of the
bell curve. Not everyone can be an outlier, but it is worth mentioning because I do come across
the occasional person who has been having a large amount of caffeine every day, nonstop for a very long time,
and doesn't seem to be impacted by it whatsoever. Sleep, totally fine. Energy levels, totally fine.
Blood work, totally fine. You just can't find an objective reason for them to cut back their
caffeine. Kevin Stroh asks, how much truth to being able to hit side delts with more
volume than other areas? That's true. And that's true of all smaller muscle groups, your delts,
your biceps, your triceps, your calves. These smaller muscle groups recover faster than the
larger muscle groups because they're smaller. There's less repair that needs to be done. And
thus, the smaller muscle groups can be trained more
frequently and more intensely. For example, if you are an experienced weightlifter and you are
wanting to focus on, let's say, bringing up your biceps, maybe along with some other muscle group,
you're going to do a specialization block of training and biceps is one of the priorities.
You're going to be training five days a week. You could train your biceps every training day, so five sessions per week. And you could do upward of probably 20 to 25 sets,
direct sets for your biceps every week. And so long as you are an experienced weightlifter,
again, you wouldn't do that if you were new or relatively new. But if you were experienced,
that could be a very productive routine. But if you were to try to do that for,
let's say, your quads, a much larger muscle group, you might find that it's simply too much.
You are going to be perpetually sore. You're going to notice that your performance declines
precipitously, especially as you would get later into the week. So by workout four and five,
your quads are simply not able to perform anywhere nearly as well as they could
earlier in the week, which is a sign of not recovered enough yet for another training session.
Lyndon Sepp asks, how can you find your new TDEE total daily energy expenditure,
approximately how many calories you're burning every day after a long period of dieting?
Well, many people make this more complicated than it needs to be. Fortunately, you just recalculate your TDEE based on your current body weight. And then you realize that it may be a bit lower than that due to factors related to the metabolic adaptations that occur during dieting. So let's say 5 to 10% lower. And then you see how your body responds to those calories. So let's say you're done dieting
and you recalculate your TDEE,
which you can do very easily.
You can head over to lesionathletics.com,
go to the learn section of the site,
go to tools and you'll find a TDEE calculator there
and then reduce it by five or 10%
and assume now that that number
is your maintenance calories.
So if you were to eat that number of calories on average
every day, or if you want to look at it on a weekly basis, so take that number, multiply it by
seven. And if your weekly caloric intake is around that, then you shouldn't see any meaningful change
in your body weight, in your body composition, specifically in your body fatness. And so then
you do that and you see how your body responds. If you continue
to lose weight, it could be slowly, but you are noticing that your weight continues to trend
downward. Your body fat levels are continuing to trend downward. Then you know that your
maintenance calories are actually a bit higher. And so you bump them up depending on how much
weight you're losing. Again, if it's minor, maybe you see over the course of the next month that
you've lost another half a pound or maybe another pound. So you bump it up maybe 100 calories per day or so. Your daily intake, bump that up by 100 and then reassess.
It's hard for me to believe that the atheists and the materialists have it all figured out for a number of reasons related to philosophy and logic and theology, parapsychology, history, and probably a bit of intuition. I would be very surprised if there weren't some spiritual aspect to our existence, if there weren't a creator or supreme being of some kind.
to our existence if there weren't a creator or supreme being of some kind. I would be open to it. I don't feel emotionally attached to that position, but the probability seems pretty high to me.
And in case you're wondering, a few of the reasons why I'm not very defensive of my religious ideas,
why I am open to the exact opposite being true, If it could be proven to me, if it could be
shown to me with sufficient evidence and logic and so forth, I would accept it. A few of those
reasons are I'm not using my religious ideas to fill a hole, to fill a deficiency in my life or
in myself. I'm not using religious ideas to justify things that I'm doing that I
shouldn't be doing to rationalize harmful and destructive behavior. I'm not using religious
ideas as an emotional crutch to lean on when times get hard. I'm not using religious ideas for social purposes to fulfill my need to feel like I belong
to have a community. I'm not using religious ideas to justify failures or failing to tell
myself that it's okay to fail because some religious idea. And so I think you get the
point when you take a lot of that stuff out, which is emotional, often irrational, you're left with
what? You're left with the pursuit of truth. So for me, it's a little bit more maybe intellectual
in character rather than emotional in character in that I am mostly interested in what is true.
Whether it is emotionally palatable to me or not, I don't really care. If I believe that the evidence is compelling, the argument is compelling, and that it is most likely true, there's just something in me then that can't ignore it, that just has to acknowledge, yeah my current position is true. I would prefer that there
is indeed something spiritual in our nature, something immaterial in our nature. And one of
the primary reasons for that is I just think it's more interesting than materialism. I mean,
just think of the questions that it raises, the implications that it raises, the hope that it inspires, the comfort maybe that
it inspires compared to bleak, dreary materialism. Anyway, let's move on. Mitch Morlitt asks,
is there an ideal timeframe for resting between working out muscle groups? Example, legs every
three days, four days. Well, generally 48 to let's say 72 hours
in between sessions is ideal.
So if you were going to train a muscle group
more than once a week,
ideally you would put two or three days
in between those sessions.
And if you need more than that
to recover your strength and performance in a muscle group,
then you may be doing too much in those individual sessions. Now, notice I did not say if the target muscle group, then you may be doing too much in those individual sessions. Now, notice I did not
say if the target muscle group that you're training a few times per week is still sore,
you may be doing too much in individual sessions. That can be true too, but you should know that
muscle soreness does not necessarily mean under-recovered or insufficiently recovered
for another training session. You can train muscles
that are sore, but if you have recovered sufficiently and you are still, it'll probably
be a little bit of soreness, no more than five out of 10, probably closer to three out of 10.
What you'll notice is that most of that soreness or all of it will go away when you're warming up
and you'll notice that your performance doesn't decline. That's the key. If you cannot perform as
well as you normally can, and you probably also will be sore, but even if you're not really sore,
if you are simply not able to do what you normally can do on an exercise with a target muscle group,
then you probably have not recovered. So for example, let's say you are training your lower
body twice per week. Let's say it's Monday and Thursday. Monday, you do your workout. It starts with
squats, 225 for five, let's say a few sets, whatever. And then Thursday comes and you're
still a bit sore from Monday's workout. Maybe it's a three or four out of 10, maybe five out of 10.
You do your warmup. It's feeling a little bit better. You put 225 on the bar again, and you can only get three. And that's a hard three. You almost fail on number three. Whereas
on Monday, you got five with, let's say on your first set, you had two or three good reps still
in the tank. And now a few days later, you have seen a big drop off. It's 225 for three with like
zero or one good rep left in the tank and the
muscle soreness. You are probably not recovered from Monday's workout. You probably did too much
in that session. Nimra Bakish asks, does making faces in the gym increase wrinkles? You know,
that's a good question. I've never thought of that, but I suppose it probably does.
I mean, using our facial muscles does cause wrinkles after all.
So I guess we should wear the sunscreen and we should moisturize, right?
Powan PJ asks, I'm hitting a plateau.
What should I do?
Well, if you are having trouble achieving progressive overload in your training, you
want to first look at your exercise technique, especially if you are an experienced weightlifter,
because the targeted training stimulus of one well-executed rep is worth several sloppy
ones.
So technique of every rep of every exercise, look there first and really strive to execute perfect reps,
every set, every exercise. That is the ideal we are working toward. It is not going to be
fully achievable like any good ideal, but we can get at least 80% of the way there.
And the reason why that is so important is proper technique, perfect reps, every set,
every exercise produces maximal training stimulus in the
target muscle groups. That's a key phrase, in the target muscle groups. Because what can happen is
with poor technique, that training stimulus can be diluted amongst a number of different muscle
groups that are not the target muscle groups of that exercise. Our body is having to recruit muscle groups that we're not trying to train
because we're not doing the exercise properly.
And in some cases, it can be so bad that the training stimulus
is being distributed throughout the entire body,
that you have most of your major muscle groups contributing at a low, non-stimulative level,
at a level that is not going to produce anything in the way of
muscle or strength gain simply because your form is bad. Ross 0705 asks, dumbbell lateral raise
single arm or together? Both are good options. Most people do both arms at the same time. You
don't see many people doing single arm lateral raises. And I think more people should, especially people who have gotten fairly strong at a lateral raise,
because it gets awkward at a point if you're doing dumbbell lateral raises, both arms at the
same time, because to use enough weight to get a good training stimulus in a reasonable rep range,
let's say six, eight, 10 reps per set, it is very difficult to minimize
the body English, to minimize the swinging and swaying. You can, but you really have to
focus on it. With the single arm, you can go over to a metal upright in the gym, like go over to
the cable station or a power rack and grab onto a post, one of the metal posts with one hand.
In the other hand, you have your dumbbell, you have your feet close to the upright that you're
holding onto and you have your feet together. And then you lean away from the upright. And from
there you do your side raises. That is a fantastic little modification that helps you keep your body
really stable and helps you control the weight that you're moving. And you want to control it
up, slight pause and control it down. Don't just let that dumbbell drop to your side.
Really control that lowering of the weight. TA Walsh 01 asks, can changing the tempo of your
lifts help when you don't have enough weight? It can. It can
make an exercise more difficult. You can get a little bit more time under tension, obviously.
But if you want to make that training maximally effective, I would recommend just doing more
regular sets to failure instead, even if those are high rep sets, 20 to 30 reps per set, for example, that is going to be
more effective than just slowing down the number of sets that you would normally do. Now, if you
don't have time to do more regular sets, then you can slow those sets down. The ones that you do have
time to do to get a little bit more stimulus out of them. But you could also do supersets in your
workouts to save time. You wouldn't superset the same exercise or the same muscle group,
but if you have multiple muscle groups to train in a workout and you're crunched for time,
you can superset them in a way that shouldn't impair your performance much, if at all.
And if you want to learn about that, head over to legionathletics.com, search for superset,
you'll find an article, I think as well as a podcast that I recorded on that topic. Or you could take your workout, you could add sets to it that you don't
have time to do as regular hard sets, just straight sets, and you could turn them into
rest pause sets. And if you want to learn about that, again, legionathletics.com,
search for rest pause, check out the article I wrote on it, probably a podcast as well. And
drop sets are another option, but I would prefer rest pause sets. Yanny Pav 28 asks,
what is your opinion on Mike Menser and Dorian Yates HIT training style? Well, there's no arguing
with the fact that this style of training can work. We have them as examples, and we have many
people who have used those training principles
over the years to get jacked. However, regularly using techniques that you'll find in this HIT
style of training, like negatives and force reps to kind of push yourself beyond failure,
I don't think it's worth the hassle. I don't think it's worth the risk. And if you are going to do it, you are
going to have to necessarily reduce your volume for obvious reasons. Your workouts are going to
get really hard. And that we know is not optimal for gaining muscle and strength. We know that you
can't simply replace a lot of normal, which should be high intensity volume. You should be pushing
close to muscular failure in your
quote unquote normal training. So we can't replace a lot of normal, let's say high intensity volume
with a lot less extra high intensity volume and get better or even the same results. Chances are
we're going to get worse results. Well, I hope you liked this episode. I hope you found
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