My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "He's got NO TALENT."
Episode Date: December 7, 2022Joanne is fired RIGHT up about something this week. But can you guess what it is? Plus, ageing gracefully, the "combative" debate (again) & bringing the new boyfriend along to EVERYTHING.If you’d li...ke to get in touch, you can send an email to hello@MTGMpod.comMTGM is going on tour in Ireland & The UK! Remember to check the venue websites as well as Ticketmaster! For more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThank you!
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Hello and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Goes With Me with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally.
Joanne, I noticed that you mentioned on my questions about my gym collab, you just said that you wanted some.
Well, I'm not sure about that, actually. Not sure.
Go on.
Lucy Nagel sent you some of my other gym collab. Me and Lucy had to have a word about that.
Why? Did I not post about it?
No, you did, yeah. But I just don't know if you deserve it.
This one's right up your street, though. Look at that leopard.
Leopard, neon.
I have to say,
that one's deadly.
The,
I loved the previous gym collab.
Unfortunately,
the jumper was
stolen by Alan.
Stolen by Alan.
I had four of those
black hoodies in my house.
All gone.
I don't know who.
You'd,
so,
you'd what?
I had four of the
Lucy Nagle black hoodies
four
gone
all stolen
and
like this
this hoodie's amazing
the white hoodie's
right up your street
oh it's Penny
who is this?
I wish I would
the man who doesn't even drink
has brought me
an alcoholic beverage
he's probably roofied it
he's been trying to ride you
all night
right
is there something fizzing in the bottom of that glass I would be very careful if I were you An alcoholic beverage. He's probably roofied it. He's been trying to ride you all night. Right?
Is there something fizzing in the bottom of that glass?
I'll be very careful if I're you.
So weird.
And then I just like,
I don't really remember finishing the pot.
It is. It is actually quite fizzy.
I kind of woke up naked.
Back, back, back at my gym club.
So Joanne,
you will be sent some.
The team at New new dimensions for some
strange reason like you oh thank you not to bother so i think i actually think that you can
choose what you'd like i'd be happy i will i'd be happy to do a collab with them yes
i have to say no they're really good though because like do you know how this whole thing
came about sorry quick one of this i was sent some a present from them two years ago
and I rang my manager
and I was like
we have to do something
with them
very good gym gear
top notch gym gear
and
they've actually opened
a shop on Grafton Street
which I love to see
an Irish
a small Irish brand
and they're from
Scaries
which I spent most
of my childhood
because half my family
are from there
so yes
I don't
I've nothing but admiration for you and your business mind I wish because half my family are from there. So, yes. I don't,
I have nothing but admiration for you and your business mind.
I wish I had even one collab in me.
I've been,
there's been,
like the odd potential collab has popped up
and then I just,
it just always falls away
because I just miss a Zoom or,
I just, even one collab would be I just Miss a zoom Or I just
Even one collab
Would be great
To get across the line
Just one collab
You need to do
A jewellery collab
Because I'd buy
All your jewellery
You're right
You're fucking dead right
See this is why
Vogue
I call her Alan Sugar
Alan Sugar
Like she is literally
Like Alan Sugar
But more crack
Yeah way more crack
Than him to be fair
I know
He seems like
He might be a bit of crack.
Congratulations on the collab.
Before we move on to the emails,
I just want to say something's been really bothering me
this week.
I've taken a real disliking
to the little Christmas bear.
Can I be honest with you?
No.
Okay, well,
I will not be honest.
That bear, that's a fancy honest. That's a fancy bear.
That's a fancy bear.
Folk, how can you say that's a fancy bear?
He's got the texture of a bath mat
that's been sitting on a bathroom floor
for about six months
in a student's apartment.
He looks glamorous.
The only thing I will say,
don't buy people's kids teddies
because I have teddies coming out of
places that teddies shouldn't be coming out of.
But you get too many teddies.
Too many teddy teddies.
Too many teddies.
Folk, the little bear.
His eyes are different sizes.
His mouth folds down like a gurn.
He looks like he's coming up.
He looks like he's falling out of Ibiza airport on a Sunday night.
We can't be looking at the same bear hang on
he's managed to
I don't know who does the PR for the little bear
but he is everywhere
stay in your lane bear
he's in Style magazine
he's front cover of the Sunday Times magazine
he's probably fucking doing a
middle page spread for Vogue.
He's absolutely everywhere.
And I just,
this is my point
about the little Christmas bear.
Okay.
I understand all the brands
are trying to create
this like cute creature
like a meerkat or whatever.
Right.
But if you're trying to place
and they keep calling him iconic,
which obviously is written
by his own publicist.
Also, I would just like to know
who his publicist is because I could do with them.
I can't even get in Sunday brunch.
This fucking bear is like basically front page of GQ magazine.
I don't know what he's doing.
I don't know how he's doing it.
Can I say one thing, though?
I take offense to you slagging off his downturned mouth because Winston, right?
Very happy dog.
Very, very happy dog.
It's not his fault
his eyes look sad all the time.
Even Gigi is like,
Winnie looks sad.
And I'm like,
no, Winnie doesn't look sad.
It's just Winnie's eyes.
It's not Winnie's fault
the way his eyes look.
Winnie,
we don't know where Winnie came from.
Winnie has lived a life.
I know where Winnie came from.
I won't tell you
where Winnie came from. We't tell you where Winnie came from
Winnie
we feel Winnie
was probably trapped
in some sort of trauma
before he met you
but Winnie's a dog
that's different
the little bear
was intentionally designed
for Christmas
and he looks
he looks
depressed
well because
do you know why
because he's stuck
beside a pile of mince pies
they're disgusting
no one likes raisins that disgusting. No one likes raisins.
That's the problem. No one
likes raisins.
Disgusting. Disgusting.
Someone get her a coffee.
I can't. I can't.
I'm trying to have a serious debate about the little
Christmas bear. Replace her with Stephen Fry.
She's malfunctioning over there I don't know what's happening
there's like steam coming out her eyes
and froth coming out her mouth
take her away
if Spencer had a mission tonight
he has mission accomplished
I don't even remember what we were fighting about
if that little bear ends up on the Graham Norton show
I will kick off.
He hasn't even done
anything. He's got no talent.
Joanne, you cannot
say that about him. He
looks fantastic.
He's just very aloof
is what I would say about him. He's aloof.
I don't know who designed that thing.
I like,
but that Balenciaga creative director,
if he's been fired,
little need to fucking hire him
because that bear needs to be spiced up.
Put a harness on it for God's sake.
It needs to look a bit happier.
I cannot look at that thing again.
I know exactly what I'm getting you for.
I'm telling you now,
I'm going to,
I swear to God,
he'll be on the Victoria's Secret catwalk
in no time.
Like,
like I say,
whoever's doing the PR
for that little bear,
DM me immediately,
please.
I could really do it.
I know.
I actually,
yeah,
I agree.
I wouldn't mind that.
I mean,
it's a genius.
It's genius marketing.
Are you okay about the bear?
Will we leave the bear?
No,
no,
we'll come back to it next week.
Go on.
Absolutely. There's a lot more
to be spoken about
about the little bear
do you know who he looks like
he looks like the
shit boring
cousin
of flat Eric
from the Levi's ad
the fact that you
have put so much thought
into the Christmas bear like you really don't like
that bear no he's
really really rode me up the wrong way
when he was annoying
me anyway because he was just sniffing
around when I saw him in Style Magazine
I went no that's enough now
get back in your lane
you should be
bought for a fiver in the middle aisle of
what are you doing in Style Magazine
do you know how I'm feeling here
I am actually
I think Joanne might be jealous
of the little bear
because let's be honest
we all want to be in the fucking
that part of Style Magazine
let's be honest
well it's like
do you know
remember Flat Eric
do do do do
do do do
he was so cool
and you're like
oh Flat Eric's cousin's coming down
I'll sound
he's going to be cool
and then the little bear turns up with his fucking weird eyes and his gurning face And you're like, oh, Flat Eric's cousin's coming down. Oh, sound. He's going to be cool. And then the little bear turns up
with his fucking weird eyes
and his gurning face
and you're like,
shit crack.
I don't mind the little bear,
to be honest with you.
I don't live near a little,
so I won't be getting a bear.
I'll have you know,
he does not speak highly of you.
You'd want to see his thread.
You'd want to see his...
He has an account on Tattletife
and you are shredded by that bear.
F-Y-I.
Okay.
That bear is a fucking snake.
Hi to Anne and Vogue.
Long time fan of the pot.
I wanted to know how you girls feel about ageing.
Not great. Not dying Vogue. Don't worry. Just ageing gracefully. I wanted to know how you girls feel about aging. Not great. Not dying
folk. Don't worry. Just aging gracefully. I turned 40 in August this year and I was actually feeling
pretty positive about it until other people ruined it for me. On the day of my birthday,
I went for a spa treatment in a very well-known five-star hotel in County Clare. I proceeded to
tell the masseuse that I have a tiny bit of dry skin in my hands not even worth mentioning really just purely making skin conversation I told her I assume it's from all
of the anti-back I'm using since the pandemic but oh no she oh oh yeah she proceeded to tell me I'm
likely perimenopausal I'm sorry what I was literally in my 30s a few hours ago.
A tear quietly ran down my face.
Cut to a week later at my routine eye test.
I asked the optician if I would be a good candidate for eye laser surgery.
She asked me what age I am.
Upon hearing it, politely proceeded to tell me that my age, there would be no point.
What?
This is hideous
I feel bad about this
I'm sorry
I went from feeling
fabulous at 40
to feeling shit at 40
I'm probably not your typical
40 year old woman
I've been single
and loving it for donkey's years
I travel all the time
I love kids
movies
I can cook a decent dinner
I went down
I don't own a nice pantsuit
neither do I
like I assume a 40 year old should is it all down here
from here should i put away my luggage and prepare for my inevitable death something do you know
what's so it's firstly firstly firstly i would like to kick off this conversation by saying i'm
40 next year i'm genuinely psyched about it and i'm not that's no bullshit I have so much
to do
I feel like I'm only
getting going
I'm feeling very positive
about it
so I'm not going to
anyone piss on my parade
someone else mentioned
perimenopausal
to me
recently
oh
when I said I had
rosacea on my nose
someone DM'd me
and was like
oh that's
you're probably
perimenopausal and i was like
no no no no no don't you be bringing the menopause into my wheelhouse that's at least 10 years down
the line at least you know what i think that like we should be thrilled about the menopause to be
honest with you i haven't had my period in nearly two years and i'm delighted about it because i've
been it's a lovely it's a lovely way to so so just think you're, you're, you're on, you're not even perimenopausal, first of all, might I say.
But who cares?
Let's embrace this.
Like, we're amazing.
Vogue, that's grand for you.
You've got 16 kids.
For a woman in my position, who's considering having a child, when someone starts throwing perimenopause on your way.
Okay, relax.
I'll give you Otto.
You can have him.
You know, I don't want that one.
You know, that's not the one I want.
Okay, do you know what, actually?
You can have Gigi.
You can have Gigi.
You take her.
Wait till you see what she's like these days.
You take her.
I keep going to find stuff and I'm like,
I come into my room and there's just shite all over the floor.
Just makeup.
She goes in, takes makeup.
I go look in her own little bag
that she carries around.
Full of my stuff.
I had these lovely,
Elizabeth Arden sent me
these like capsules of stuff
for your skin
that I need
because I'm 37.
All in She She's bag.
Didn't know where they'd gone to.
That little witch is a thief.
I've taught her well.
She's such a little klepto.
I love it.
She's finally getting
a personality
I can relate to
absolutely thrilled
she's into skin
skin care
and stealing
the dream
I want to dedicate
an entire episode
to the joys
of turning 40
yeah
I agree
I do
I do
I do
but I will say
do you remember being younger
and you'd look at people
who were not even in their 30s,
in their late 20s, and you'd be like, those old bastards.
You'd be 18 walking around with your little fat puppy face.
I remember being in second class and we shared a door with third class.
This is primary school, Jo.
It's the Irish education system.
Don't worry about it.
And I was looking at them going, oh my God, they're so grown up.
They were like four or something. Do you know what I mean? Like you're always looking ahead. And then when you get to that going, oh my God, they're so grown up. They were like four or something.
Do you know what I mean?
Like you're always looking ahead.
And then when you get to that stage,
you're like,
I feel unbelievable.
I feel amazing.
I feel like I'm only,
I genuinely feel like I'm only getting going.
I genuinely feel,
that's not bullshit.
I genuinely feel that.
I feel like at this age,
you really like have your shit together.
You kind of know what you want in life.
Nobody can kind of take away your thunder.
Don't let that girl take away your thunder.
And actually, to be honest with you, my mom
who is nearly 70
has had her eyes done.
So she's lying as well, by the way,
P.S. Get your eyes done because you
don't need to go to Specsavers.
You just need to go get your eyes done.
I'm the same age as you. I just have my eyes done.
I can see everything now.
Get your eyes done now Get your eyes done
Also
You're 40
It's not like you've got a fucking cataract hanging out the side of your eye
I don't know what that person was talking about
They should be struck off, name and shame
What was this hotel?
I won't be frequenting it
What I will say to you
I told someone my age yesterday
I was like oh I'm 37
She goes oh my god I can someone my age yesterday I was like oh I'm 37 she goes
oh my god
I can't believe that
and I was like
delighted
I was like why
what age did you think I was
and she said
34
I thought
that's not
like that is not a compliment
ah come on it is
34
I wanted 27
Vogue
listen
Vogue
beg
aging is an honour it is an honour because at least I'm not I wanted 27 Vogue Listen Vogue Beg Beg
Aging
Is an honour
It is an honour
Because at least I'm not
She says
He spent so long
At Dr. Ewan's clinic
She missed all his christening
Aging
Is an honour
Okay
You can take that back, right?
Hello.
Joanne just inadvertently made a tit of me
in the middle of an argument
with himself.
Why are you being so...
I actually...
This is so funny.
Sorry to interrupt the email.
I don't know how to say the actual word anymore
combative
say it Jo
how would you say that name
combative
combative
that doesn't sound right
it's because we've said it wrong
for so long
it's combative
he says
why are you being so
combative all the time
he said to her
she retaliated with the correct term
and went you're the one being combative
you have to do it in the voice too
combative
I already knew I'd lost
I knew full well the word is combative combative I already knew I'd lost I knew full well
the word is combative
but you and your
fucking demo
Dempsey
combative
lives right free
on a loop
in my autistic
ADHD brain
shout out to my
neurodivergent gal
here's hoping
we never argue
ever do
Breeze
much love
Lisa
combative
do you know
do you know
sometimes you say
a word so many times
it loses all sense of meaning in your head?
Combative no longer makes any sense to me.
That feels just, that sounds wrong.
It's one of my favorite words in the entire world ever.
Combative.
Combative.
Is that?
It's all combative.
I don't even know where that came from.
Anyway.
Who is that?
It's all competitive.
I don't even know where that came from.
Anyway.
I have an amazing friend.
I would class him as one of my best friends.
We always arrange to meet up at least once every two weeks.
We have done this for years.
In the last few years, he has found love, which is great, of course.
However, the boyfriend is always around.
When we make plans, the boyfriend comes.
But he is not my friend.
I make the usual meetup plans and automatically the boyfriend is now part of the date.
Oh, no.
This would all be okay if a gang of us are meeting up, but it's only ever me. Therefore, I'm always the third wheel.
Even simple plans like after work dinner, he is now automatically involved.
No, that's not kill i
did say to my friend before why does he always have to come and its response was why not oh no
it's really starting to get to me he's a good friend and i like to be able to talk to him but
all of a sudden this stranger knows my business when my friend asks me questions about my life
in front of said boyfriend i get really uncomfortable I would never be friends with this type of person shade
and now he's
in my life
I would never
be done
he seems really
nice but I'd
never used to
be friends with
this type of
oh my god
I find myself
now cancelling
plans because I
hate the feeling
of always being
no
just the three of us
it's not even being
the third wheel.
It's having to go out
with somebody
that you don't really know
and you don't like,
you know when someone
gets to someone like,
oh,
will I invite?
And you're like,
no,
no,
no.
I'm trying to see.
You don't always have to
invite the other person.
I think sometimes
that it's nice to spend
time,
like Joanne,
whenever I try to invite
Spencer to anything,
she has an absolute hissy fit and i
say yeah i understand i understand so we don't invite him anywhere no we keep it separate
separate like i listen i look i've always been like that i'm really bad at mixing groups i don't
like it i find it very i don't like it being done to me and i don't like doing it to other people i
think you need to leave your own space it's not that you can't ever be in each other's company,
but if you're wanting to spend time,
like if I want to spend time with you on your own,
I don't want Alan coming, although Alan's so lovely,
I would like him coming.
No, no, no, no, I'm greedy.
Like I'm a bit greedy in that way.
I'm like, I want, if I want to have lunch at Vogue,
I want to have lunch at Vogue.
So when you come down here later, I'll just tell Spenny,
I'll say, Spenny, you've got to get out of the house.
He can sit in the balcony.
We've got a new pergola
he'll be happy out there he can just sit out there
yeah I've booked you an Airbnb
the zap people are going to come and collect you and drop you off
but I
wonder about the gender of the person who wrote
up maybe this is me showing my age but I wonder
is the boyfriend coming along because they're
jealous or something like a bit threatened
I wouldn't say they're jealous I just think that
like some people when they get into a relationship do you not have a friend like that that like it's
all about the relationship it's all about the new person and they have to have them at every single
thing and I find that kind of annoying I'm kind of the opposite I'm like Alan's kind of pulled me
up in it a couple of times he's like I I'm your boyfriend like I should be you know kind of going to things
and stuff
I'm just so used to
doing things on my own
that I
I like to keep things
kind of separate
yeah but I think
that you have
I think that like
one of the mistakes
actually I have made
in past relationships
is like bringing them
along to too many things
and I think it's nice
to have your own
separate life
which they don't want
to be involved in
I'll tell you what
Spenny does not want to come out with us
of course he doesn't
he hasn't even asked to come out on Sunday
he would have no interest, we'd drive him up the walls
100%
that's when I knew we were meant to be
and also I made the mistake when I was younger
of going out with people
and becoming completely consumed
by them
and I kind of gave up I didn't
really have my own identity anymore whereas now I'm older and I would insist on it so just be very
careful you don't fall into what I'm actually speaking to the person who's bringing their
boyfriend out wary of the codependency situation it's not healthy I think relationships last longer
and are healthier when you're very much around people because yeah
I was going to say something negative there I won't go down the negative
route but just have your own
shit going on
I'm like Vogue don't be fucking bringing your boyfriend
that's my husband Joanne whatever
don't be bringing him anywhere okay
I understand that I take it on
I understand where you're coming from Joanne
although said husband just walked in and asked me If I wanted a top up
I am keeping him
Oh that's so cute
You know what he's
You know what he's trying to do
I know I know
And it's going to happen
He's got his way
I do that much for sure
Gotten his way
Isn't it such a terrible
State of affairs
Like
What a toast to marriage
I have to go home now
And get your one
Absolutely shit face
That shall ride me
anyway
I do
I might even go
through my fancy underwear
no that's not true
actually that's too much
I was actually laughing
the other day
like when I first
started going out with Alan
like obviously you know
you've got like
the linguine
is what I call it
the lingerie
and you're like
yeah yeah yeah
he took a photo
of me
were you in the nude underwear I wasn't I was Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out of bed. We're here. He took a photo of me.
Were you in the nude underwear?
I wasn't.
I was in like with this like giant,
like onesie kind of fleeced.
I don't even know what you'd call it.
Shell suit.
With,
cause obviously I had the laser.
So I'd like all this eye drops in my eyes and eye mask on,
mouth wide open asleep
duvet
wrapped up to my neck
whatever the opposite
of sexy is
keep sending your
cheating stories in
I genuinely think
we should dedicate
an entire bonus episode
just to talk about cheating
because the thing that was so nice about reading them was that we were all they were laughing only think we should dedicate an entire bonus episode just to talk about cheating because
the thing that was so nice about reading
them was that we were all they were laughing and I was
laughing and we were laughing and I will tell
you I have something
very interesting to tell you about that
something oh my god have you got something in the pipeline
are you going to do one of those pipeline things
I nearly passed away
and died yesterday
when it came up right you're not gonna believe i will
tell my god i don't even mean to do a cliffhanger but like i literally when when i got the mail i
was like oh my god earn emoji earn emoji do you know the earn
nine earn emojis What's going on Oh
I meant to say to you
So I was on the
MTGM pod
Whatever
Instagram thing
You're doing a great job
With that by the way
Great job
Thank you
She's doing a fantastic job
I did two stories
Two stories yesterday
But I was
So I wanted people
To tell me their cheating stories
So I put up and asked
You know
The question box
And the template
Comes up with the thing
Ask me anything
So most people
Were just sending in
Cheating stories
And then one girl wrote it
She's like
How do you deal
With all the hate online
About you
She goes
I read it about you
And it's just
Absolutely awful
Thank you for listening
to the bonus episode
of My Therapist Ghosted Me
with Joanne McNally
and Vogue Williams
Guru of Markhut
Guru of Markhut
with me
Joanne McNally
and Michael Collins
over there
Eamon Tavallera
rude
Eamon Tavallera
couple of fuckles couple ofavalaire couple of fuckles
couple of fuckles
yeah
I literally
I couldn't even get
in the Clapham Gazette
this prick's
fucking front page
anyway
he has positioned himself well
he has positioned himself
suspiciously well