Painkiller Already - PKA 657 W/ Jon From Fishtank: Being Bullied By Sam Hyde, Joining The French Foreign Legion, Jake Paul Will Beat Diaz
Episode Date: July 22, 2023...
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pka 657 with our guest top jay from fish tank taylor this episode of pka brought to you by
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thank you for taking time to join us today no no Thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure.
Yeah, you've been doing,
I saw you did the Dick Masterson show.
Another friend of the show,
Dick Masterson.
How'd you like him?
He's a nice guy, isn't he?
Yeah, no, I liked him a lot.
He was a pretty cool guy.
I liked a lot of his beliefs and views on things.
Yeah, yeah.
He has some Andrew Tate
adjacent views as well.
And I learned on fish tank early on
that you're the top g you are all about andrew tate i'm a total novice to the tate brothers
what is it about them that attracts you so much that you like so much uh yeah no my favorite thing
about the tate brothers is their business uh the how they strike on business and their their vision on it and how
they see it and how they just get stuff done like you can see a lot of people out here that may talk
about business but they're not as focused as them with a clear driven drive that's the biggest thing
i like about them okay so you don't you're not thrown off by the Romanian prison bit at all.
You're like, don't care.
What person in a public figure has to have something like that?
If you look at almost all the people in the government,
there's things about Trump, there's things about Biden.
I would argue most people in the public eye are not imprisoned in romania
charged with rape well yeah no i agree to that okay they should be he means that everybody's
got skeletons in their closet his just happens to be allegedly keeping women's passports in a safe
you got all right now let me just make this point allegedly we got to keep those passports safe
someone like this gentleman could come along tear him up yeah yeah that's true
that was the absolute funniest part of fish tank that had me cracking up was sam's genuine and
sincere fury with you when you decided you were going to tear up Letty's passport.
And Sam had a realization of like, this guy's not fucking around.
He's he's going to destroy her passport and trap her in the United States. Were you were you LARPing a little bit?
Were you joking or were you really going to do it?
I don't know if you get to be able to heal, but I actually got permission from Sam before
I even grabbed the passport.
Oh, OK. What did you say?
I asked him,
can I break anything
of Letty's, no matter
what it is?
And he gave me a yes.
But first I had to shake Ben's hand
and then I was free to break
anything of Letty's.
Okay, so there were
rules of sorts. You just had had to shake the producer's hand
and then you could destroy anything that sounds to me like you were in the clear like he gave you
the go-ahead to destroy anything she's lucky you didn't punch her in the face so going for the
passport seemed fair to me but you could have chosen her nose but once you had the passport
everyone was clearly screaming for you to stop and not do it, but you persisted. You sort of ran away with it.
You were like, but you said, but you said.
Yeah, he's a top G.
He's not going to stop.
He's not going to give up.
You don't take no for an answer.
If I really wanted to rip it, I had a solid
seven seconds of it in my hand.
It takes two seconds to rip it.
If even.
They got lucky.
I decided not to.
They did.
Yeah.
I don't think Sam was acting when he threw those drawers and everything afterward.
Really, though, the passport thing wasn't even really that bad.
Like the physical assaulting from Airsoft Fatty, all the spits and all that i don't think you ever
hit anybody spit on anybody i think you you kept your hands to yourself didn't you
other than sam during sparring yeah no i didn't physically haunt anyone yeah that's good that's
likely to bring you back is sam also lucky that you decided to back off a little bit
uh for the passport?
Yeah, during the sparring and stuff.
Well, I don't think I could have beat up Sam.
Let's just be real.
I'm unexperienced.
And he was teaching me, and he's three times bigger than me.
I don't know if you don't try.
Woody's talked about you before, not knowing it was you,
because you were the guy holding those pads when
Sam Hyde was kicking the absolute
fuck out of you.
And whenever we talk about Fishtank previously,
like months back, Woody would be like, I don't know, I kind of feel
bad for some of these guys. What about that
one little fella that they were kicking the shit out of?
So now you can get his perspective.
Did you feel bullied?
Yeah. Did you feel bullied? Yeah.
Did I feel bullied?
Yeah, when you were holding the pads.
Because he was going pretty hard given the size difference.
You know, I don't know if he did it on purpose or not.
I can count less either way.
But you didn't feel bullied?
I guess not, no i guess not objection leading witness
i've always been in the perspective it wasn't bullying it was training you practice how you
play and yeah could i could i step in for the prosecution and just completely flip the script
here and point out that if that is bullying then bully then then then Woody here serial bullied every member of the Call of Duty community that he could lay hands on over the years.
I have seen him choke out minorities in hotels across the greater United States.
Only minorities, now that I'm thinking about it.
He pounced on Bashir outside those elevators one time.
And this young black man from Canada, okay just just down here to have a
good time woody's choking the life out of him some of these kids didn't know how to tap
no that was pretty fucked so yeah that would qualify as bullying then woody lifted white
boys so far off the ground and his little legs were kicking in in my defense i was bullying white
boy yes you were bullying everybody That's my favorite of all
times when you lured White Boy into
a bullying.
White Boy had made some
videos lying about me, talking some
trash and
it hurt me. It hurt my
feelings. It hurt my standing.
This is way long ago.
It might be 10, 11 years ago.
And this guy, White Boy was like a peer of mine
in the youtube call of duty community and we had an online beef but everything he said was lies
and i really didn't like his way of doing the beef and i think he won right he won but it's
easy to win when you just make up your argument and that's that. Anyway, as part of our sort of burying the hatchet, I guess there was wrestling or grappling
involved. And I'm a lot bigger than white boy. I just am with multiple years of combat experience
as well. And I'm better trained than white boy. So during the grappling, I got him in a guillotine,
but I was able to hold him by his his head in
his neck and lift his feet off the ground yeah and uh that made me feel better about the situation
yeah that is so much more ruthless than sam kicking the pads were you there listening part
were you there for that taylor were you in that room oh that's awesome i'm so glad you were in
that room yeah that was i couldn't remember for the life of me who else was in that room oh that's awesome i'm so glad you were in that room yeah that was i couldn't remember for the life of me who else was in that room yeah i thought what he wrestled me on that trip and
like what he has beaten everyone i know up in the youtube community including me he didn't beat me
up but that was because what he chose not to i was in the position but i wanted to talk about
fish tank more there was one guy on there from
early on simmons who he's the gentleman kyle and woody who was discovered to have written a very
very spicy book about being a camp counselor and how to hook up with campers and all that
and before that was all revealed john you and simmons seemed to be like getting along like he
was successfully coming off as a really weird guy but kind of you know just harmless until that got revealed was that
upsetting or annoying or do you feel tricked or anything when it came out that he was a real ghoul
and you'd kind of buddied up to him well to be fair I was kind of using him as a bitch essentially i don't know if you guys noticed
anything i wanted done i had him do it and he would start to ask permission before he
went to go do something so i was kind of using him same thing with a couple other people there
at the first couple of weeks um like i thought it was going to be like big brother and you know
big brother there's a lot of manipulation tactics you have to use so i saw him as a pawn to win the
game was the entirety of fish tank you know you said you thought it was going to be like big
brother were you did you know who sam hyde million dollar extreme who they were or did you go in like i can't wait to be a
part of jason gold striker's big game i went in there blind okay so you did i didn't know i didn't
know who he was beforehand i saw one youtube video about two months prior of him talking about
andrew tate and that's the only thing i've ever seen about him and then when he walked in the room i was like oh that's that guy from that one video
yeah he's dressed up in a giant suit kicking me was there an advertisement looking for
actors people craigslist i was so on craigs because i do modeling so i respond to lots of
like acting or modeling gigs on craigslist and And then I just see whoever bites and they, they send me a message.
So I sent them a video of me talking about myself and then they wanted
another video and I forgot to send them that second video they wanted.
And then I forgot about them all together.
The month later they asked me if I wanted an interview.
And I said, yeah, but who are you guys again?
And then they told me, and we had the interview the next day.
So good you said, yeah, who are you?
That's very Sigma male behavior.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Who are you again?
That's hilarious.
So you just went in line.
No idea.
Craigslist feels like...
I didn't know Craigslist was still a thing.
I remember a long time ago,
it used to be where you could go for a skeezy hookup,
and then they took all the adult stuff off there,
and all the hookers left,
and all the dirty people left.
I didn't know it was still a thing.
I didn't know it kept going.
Now you use it to find people for reality shows.
I think it's going decently in Oregon.
I know in some other states,
Craigslist isn't really a thing.
I feel like Facebook Marketplace killed it, but it's not totally dead.
It did. It's better.
You talked about modeling.
How did you get into that?
And is it just like hard scoping Craigslist you're looking for?
Or at this point, do you have people reaching out to you?
How'd you get into it?
So when I first started doing it, I was a wildland firefighter at the time and i was just
we were sitting around that day so i'll put up my phone but on craigslist and then it's like oh
i could get paid for someone to take pictures of me yeah let's do that no i wasn't naked i was
it was like for a bank it was for one of the local credit unions here they wanted
a picture of me in their planford or the paperware or something like that that's a pretty good gig
that's like a respectable gig sometimes when you see people portrayed as like struggling artists
they end up i don't know in some weird japanese soap commercial like scrubbing themselves with
panda bears or something doing but but just, we want you on this pamphlet
in the bank. That's respectable.
You can immediately show that
to your grandma.
We need you to be the bad
credit score guy.
You can work up to
the good credit score guy.
How would you like to be a white home
intruder?
Put the fucking ski mask on you and break into a house in the middle of the day.
Yeah.
Is the modeling going better since Fishtank?
I imagine that kind of attention has probably helped out, right?
Oh, yeah.
Everything has gotten 10 times better.
Nice.
For example, my job, I've recently signed up a couple of companies to partner with,
and they've been sending me multiple clients a day now,
which they found me through Fish Tank.
Your job is modeling, we're talking about.
Obviously, modeling.
I'm about to get picked up by a modeling agency.
And there's this other modeling academy that wants to hire me as a coach,
which I don't know how legitimate that is but i guess i would
see be like i would think they would look into me and know i've only done modeling for a few years
so i don't know why they would watch me as a coach let me ask you due diligence when you when you
correspond with these people from craigslist and other other places um do you are you always um
you always write to them the same way that you wrote to uh our guy chis because he sent me the
email that that uh he had with you your correspondence and it is wordy you sent him
uh one two three four five six seven eight i'm gonna call that nine paragraphs and it is it is some some cool
stuff i i had a blast reading through this do you do you write to everybody like this
no not everybody that was only for you guys actually for the modeling gigs it's usually
a lot shorter and straight to the point and all the facts and details they need to know.
What do they usually ask for a modeling gig?
Is it requirements like height and weight?
Yeah, height and weight, age, where you're located, what's your social media accounts.
They usually want a portfolio.
What have you done?
accounts they usually want a portfolio what have you done you know just a whole bunch writing stuff information about like your name phone number yeah email you mentioned uh before
modeling you were a firefighter a wildlands firefighter that's really cool how how long
did you do that and do you have any crazy stories or did you get to go try that out
like actually fight fires or never got yeah so i did about three to four
years um you okay carl yeah he's okay he's just getting by no just trick or by trick so yeah i
did it for about three to four years um i have this one good story you guys probably like when
i caught my ass on file oh shit yeah so so i was
in northern california on the july complex 2020 and we were we were putting i was putting out
this juniper tree um it's like a 500 year old juniper tree and i was putting out because i
was assigned on the engine engine 35 and I was putting it out with the
hose with 350 pounds of psi at the time so put it out and then I put out the next tree came back
because it fell back up as I was putting up because I was on an incline on the hill and it
was all sand and I guess my white foot was standing on an L pocket. So my foot went like a foot or two in the ground because the sand just caved in on me.
And the hose, while I was using it, pushed me down on the ground.
And the sand was all wet and hot as fuck.
So steam ended up going through my pants and giving me a second degree burn on my ass.
I was only on the ground for like a second.
I jumped off so fast. Your second it blistered so fast
it blistered up and everything oh yeah and that's not even the worst part the worst part is
for the next week i had like 30 people look at my ass you know from doctors to nurses you know
every person you could think of. Did it scar or is your
asshole back to normal now?
There's a small scar about like
this big right now. That's small to you?
That's a pretty big scar. I think your big scar
is like this size of a face.
Seems like it's kind of a small scar.
In the same way Alaska
is a small part of the US.
That's hilarious. The small scar, size of your fist yeah well that it
just makes you look tough and that's actually a good scar story of i was fighting and i burned
myself on the steam yeah viciously that's cool do you think you'll ever go back do it again
i am actually getting certified uh here in a couple weeks because i do kind of want to go on another
fall so i mean just for fun at the end of the season um but it wouldn't be permanent though
just because the government they never paid for the medical bills they fucked me over on that
really pay well what is the pay for wildland firefighter i do i Dude, when I was doing it, it was $13 an hour. It was shit.
Yeah, if you told me it was $50 and that there's an emergency and they open up the coffers to pay, I'd have bought it.
If you told me it was minimum wage, I'd have bought that too.
I had no idea.
Yeah.
You work a hose mostly?
Because hose sounds doable.
I feel like, hypothetically, if called to it, I could work a hose.
If you ask me to put out a fire with a shovel,
18 minutes in, I'm going to ask you for a break.
I'm done.
That's quite the workout.
We do a whole bunch of different things.
You know, sometimes you have to carry a Mach 3 pump into the fall beforehand.
This is a big hose, a Mach 3 pump?
No, that's a pump.
So it's a pump.
You put it into like a river or like a stream,
and then we connect the hose to it to make a hose lay throughout the whole fall
so people could put it out.
And the Mach 3 pump is a medium-sized pump.
It's about 40 to 60 pounds.
So you usually have to carry that out,
and then you usually have to carry that out and then you usually have to carry your package package
usually roughly 45 to like 55 pounds for the average person so if you have the pack and then
the mark three pump you know it's basically 100 pounds right there that's a lot to haul i mean
how far are you going with it well one week i had to do that five times and i was hiking like five miles up a mountain with those
and there's multiple times and sometimes in the same day a pump would break and then i would have
to hike it back out and get a new one and hike it back in what are you wearing 13 an hour
what are you wearing with this are you in like heavy hot firefighting gear or you're not
expecting to be that close to flames when you do this so you're wearing a flame resistant pants
um like i have one pair that's one of the pairs i own is 500 dollars like you know it's not the
it's not like structural firefighter clothing.
It's kind of more looks like, I guess, kind of like army or military.
Wait, you had to buy your own fire resistant pants? No, no, no, no.
The one I personally owned, my boss had it from years ago.
He gave it to me because he got too fat.
That happens.
Yeah, small miracles for you.
No, they do provide all the gear you need, though.
But that was just a personal pill he gave to me.
Okay.
So it seems like you've had quite a number of careers.
You're in your mid-20s, I'm assuming, right?
Yeah, 25.
Okay.
Do you have any other dreams or aspirations of a job you would love to do?
Like if you had your opportunity.
Something I was going to do before COVID hit.
I was actually going to join the Army.
I know the Army, the pay is all shit.
Everyone's dream job.
Don't forget, you don't have to pay.
I hope you make it.
The reason why I want to do something
like that, though, is for the
brotherhood and for the skill
set
of learning how to
shoot a gun properly and how to
just fight, let alone
travel a little bit that sounds like
fun travel while fighting people um yeah that is the french foreign legion is way more your style
though lately i know so i've been thinking about them lately too you've been thinking about joining
the french foreign legion that's fantastic yeah i could say they're i think they're pretty intense
like they're known for being intense taylor i'm with you i'm like the army is a very survivable job especially right now
we're not involved in any major conflicts in the next four years we probably will be because it's
america well exactly that's why you join now it should be hard the wings when it happens watch
they're gonna try to recruit everyone unless you know like so you're going to get in early so you're
you're out of the the grunt zone by the time it happens why why the not outside of the grunt zone
but i have more experience at that point so that's to be on the ground fighting why why the army
though instead of like marines or something like that so yeah so i might say the thing with the Marines, like I probably could do them, but I just don't know if I want to do that.
What's your ideal army role?
Is it like paratrooper, tank, something else like a maintenance job of some sort?
I feel like either paratrooper or just like a straight up soldier, like the infantry.
Right, right.
But at the same time, I same time they would love to hear
that you go to the recruiter and start talking like this he's gonna be patting you on the back
buddy yeah he's gonna get that job yeah they're gonna drive a truck for the next four years
i feel like another good one would be is the natural guard and the reason why i say that
they actually do get a lot
more training than every other branch because they have a lot more free time training on guns
so if you want to get really good at shooting guns the natural guard is the way to go but
they have a lot more free time they always win the competitions they get in really is national
guard like is that a full-time job or is that like a – I've never known that.
Some people there are full-time job.
That depends on what you want it to be.
There's some contracts you could do where it's like a part-time job.
You do X amount a month.
Or you could do all the assignments that the Army goes to.
And there's reserves, right?
There's like a couple – you can be in the reserves and you do that like i don't think you do anything i think you show up every few months and like do some basic shit to like kind of check in and yes sir ready
to report if shit hits the fan kind of thing but essentially yeah man right now um the thing to do
if i was 25 i would probably fucking do it i would i'd be in ukraine doing something silly
either drone up either operating a drone or drone or maybe something scarier.
I don't know.
Did you guys see that video of that Washington dude
who got shot and then a bomb
dropped on him?
He just rolled over on his back
and he looked into his shoulder.
There's just a giant gaping hole.
I actually know what you're talking about.
I know the exact one he's talking about
with the giant gaping hole in the back of his
right shoulder when he rolls over. Yeah.
They hit him with something big.
Yeah. Yeah, that dude's
insane.
How did his body
not blow up first off?
That's just not how explosives
work. It's got to be a big baboom to
blow him into smithereens. They're just dropping those grenades right on top of them blowing chunks out
of them is a grenade strong enough that like if it was like surgically like saw style implanted
in someone's stomach and then it blew up from in there it wouldn't like like with their body
like would they be in half or would it would just explode out and they'd just be like all shredded up probably so i'll say this because that's like a made-up
hypothetical i don't know much about yeah but lots of guys have thrown themselves on top of grenades
and survived in world war ii it happened a lot they would throw their chest and their belly on
top of it and get severe shrapnel wounds or their ass um i think grandpa simpson did that
um i think you i think yeah i think i think he did that but so i think um but if there was a
grenade surgically put inside of somebody's body i think it'd blow a big hole out of them when it
but i don't think it'd blow them to smithereens at all um because when those people go off and
there's no way that those were fully functional grenades. There had to be something wrong with them.
They didn't blow up all the way or they didn't shoot all the shrapnel or something.
There's no way you can jump on top of a grenade that works 100% perfectly.
What if you put your helmet on it?
Just like Abe Simpson.
That's what Grandpa Simpson did.
Oh, they did it on.
Yeah.
Captain America did it, I think.
I'm not sure.
Captain America stole that from Abe Simpson.
Captain America, like when the field right like position
around the grenade no there's uh there's multiple cases in world war ii i know for sure of guys
throwing themselves on top of grenades and uh and surviving it and then plenty of people dying
you know as well what's the safest job if you're like an elite soldier i always thought like
driving a fucking truck but like the sniper actually
seems unbelievably dangerous because you're all by yourself out there like with one other dude
right i think there's um some positions on big navy ships where people tend to survive a lot
especially now yeah because our navy's superiority is so lopsided. Did you disagree? You rolled your eyes.
No, I was just thinking of like all,
first of all, in our military,
the survivability rate is insane.
Half of our military deaths are always contractors.
If you go back to Iraq and Afghanistan,
they'd be like, oh, we lost 7,000 people.
That's not that bad.
And 7,500 more mercenaries that we were paying to
that they don't talk about.
But it seems like if you're just
a grunt in the army driving a truck your odds are pretty fucking good so if you put yourself now
you're i don't know seaman first class mcgovern's who turns a wrench on some navy ship are you just
behind a computer somewhere on the navy ship and monitor the fucking cooling system or something
you know it's one of those ubiquitous jobs i think there's 5 000 men on an
aircraft carrier well shit like that like yeah but i mean like of combat people yeah i'm glad
you said that zach has some lists on the side like there's admin financial management hr right
that's wrong my um my brother-in-law was in the air force i mentioned him briefly
his job was to look at pictures that satellites took carefully and circle things that he thought other people would be interested in.
Like, hey, look, this truck moved a little bit.
Pass that up the chain and see what they make of it.
That is a high survivability job.
He's not getting hurt at all.
He works in air conditioning.
If you circle the wrong truck and they kill you, I doubt it.
It's not gonna happen but like if you're
out there in the mix like the grunts have to die or like the the grunt equivalent of the seals or
the marines or whatever the front man who's like really fighting bursting into like there's no way
that like even a sniper like that's got to be way safer than that guy is there anything more
dangerous than the guy going in first the door seems extremely dangerous the first guy through the door my
buddy that's what he did in fb understand tough as shit did he hit the door or was he first through
it because those are different guys he was first through with the shotgun yeah see that's the worst
that's gotta be the worst there's no way that that's not the highest he said it was the most
exciting thing he's ever done.
I bet.
You know what's tough?
I'm sorry, Kyle.
Did you want to go to that guy?
Is he ruined for normal life now?
Like I am a little bit.
I have made good money not working very hard.
Am I still capable of working like I used to?
I'm not even sure.
This guy has to readjust to life where a fucking, I don't know,
rollercoaster at six flags is supposed to be considered exciting.
It's not exciting to this guy.
there's no way it's exciting for like there.
I don't,
I think I've told this on the show or a hundred times.
Yeah.
Many years ago,
I said this in the show.
Like,
so he dipped out of college because he got nervous that Afghanistan was going to be done before college.
And so he left because he wanted to go fight in Afghanistan.
And he got there and everything.
And it was maybe I was a junior in college.
This is like 2011 or whatever.
And he called me.
It was like three in the morning my time in Missouri.
And I got a call from him.
And I'm like, what the fuck? I literally know he's one of my best friends I'm like I know he's in Afghanistan
right now and I answer the phone and I'm like hello he's like kind of scratches like Taylor
I'm like what like you're and he's like yeah dude I just got in my first firefight
I was shooting I saw bullets coming at me whizzizzing past me, running around, gunfire.
It was the most wild thing I've ever experienced.
And I realized I absolutely can't call my mom.
I absolutely can't call my dad and tell them about this.
And the only person, like friend of mine's phone number I had memorized was yours.
And I just got to talk to someone about this, man.
It was fucking wild.
And I'm like, I'm glad you're okay're okay man like is when are you coming home like
because he's like leaning into it like it was insane like i the rush like i couldn't stop
moving around afterward and i'm like so you like saw bullets coming at you and he's like yes and i'm like but not close and he's like no close
it's like oh my god dude like and like to him he was so amped up the adrenaline was pumping
but to me i was just like fuck i don't want one of my best friends to die in afghanistan because
he's so amped up but are you and now like that he'll talk about like how crazy it was all the
experiences but then like when i see him with like another Marine,
you know,
the camaraderie they just instantly have as Marines,
like they start sharing stuff.
And then you like see the excitement come back out of like,
Oh,
do you remember this and that?
Were you this kind of guy?
And,
and something I have seen that's funny is he's a like frontline fighting
combat Marine.
And every so often,
like I'll see him talk to another Marine
who will be a higher rank than him
and be like, oh, I
was at West Point and this and that.
But because that guy didn't go
through the level of shit,
there's almost like a
deference respect of like
you went through a different level.
I have a friend who served in the Army and I don't think he was quite as like
kicked down doors as your friend was, but he was in combat and stuff.
And it's, I don't want to say changed him, but like it,
it it's helped him put a different perspective on life's stress.
So he's in a job interview and the person interviewing him, right.
He's the candidate was nervous as heck
and i loved his line he's like i can tell you nervous don't worry i haven't killed anyone in
like 20 years and it's like holy shit yeah i guess so
oh what's that i was gonna say does your friend have any cool tattoos like does he have like
knock knock marine corps like on his bicep or something insane no nothing like that but he has
a ton of tattoos a ton of tattoos i'm like pressuring him because he's got one giant full
sleeve and he's like i want another full sleeve and i'm like no like if you're gonna i have no
tattoos so i'm biased but it's like no like if you're gonna i have no tattoos so i'm biased but it's like no like if you're gonna
have a full sleeve you need that point of comparison with your regular arm you know
otherwise you get that like joe rogan just like dirty like middle school desk scribbles look
if you're watching get a tattoo the pka pill logo is popular yeah oh yeah that's a good one he was
so funny getting his tattoos early he was just like he'd come up with something he thought
was funny and just get it
he got a chest piece like a giant
chest piece that just has like a wolf
in a tuxedo holding two guns
pointing out and it says relentless
and he's like it's hilarious
like
he's got a bunch of funny tattoos
that's an awful tattoo
yeah shut up up tell him that
yeah that's great so he had a shotgun i like that's why i would like to talk to him because
i've never talked to anybody he used one in combat um i remember seeing some videos of guys talking
about using them in combat indoors and how you could fire the buckshot along walls and ceilings
you know you spray into the wall or the ceiling at a very sharp angle
or a flat angle so that it sort of rides that flat surface
and goes under doors, along walls,
because people will be peeking just outside of a doorway,
and you can make all that buckshot skim along the wall
if you shoot it just right.
That's so crazy.
I didn't know that.
Shotguns are fucking nasty. Such cool weapon the shotgun yeah if he shot if he if he did what he did then he has
blown holes through people's heads as big as your fucking fist you know that thing was up close a
shotgun with buckshot is just insanity more oh it just deletes people, apparently. It does. It does. Yeah. Fuck.
So if you were to be a warrior, John, you're going out there,
is it almost a fantasy that you think it would be fun to be in the war,
or are you serious like you would actually want to fight?
I want that skill.
I want that combat skill.
That's why I started Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu,
because I want to know how to fight properly.
So if I were to join any type of military branch,
the main purpose is to have the combat skills.
Okay.
Because I feel like everyone's going to need to know that skill here soon
with the way the world is headed or heading.
Is it the more gun skill you're looking for or like fighting?
Yeah, combat, tactics, gun, marksmanship, like the whole.
Because I want to stay focused on the guests, but like in watching the Ukrainian thing thing i've realized how much i don't know about how war is conducted and and from the tactics of how you navigate a tree
line to the strategy of what how you know when you might use a pincher movement i still get baffled
by like say there's a front line someone makes some progress and now there's a bulge in that
front line why is that bulge good for me because i feel surrounded right and then on
the other hand when they make the bulge they are surrounded i get very lost as to who has the
advantage like i i know the basics like high ground is good but it has shined a spotlight
on how little i know about how to conduct a war and that's what he wants to know. And it also like to me, it shows how impressive like ancient warfare was and how they had to communicate.
Like, look how difficult communication is in a modern war with walkie talkies and radio and like instant things.
Imagine like tens of thousands of people on horseback or on foot and the advanced relaying of information you'd have to do.
of people on horseback or on foot and the advanced relaying of information you'd have to do the anticipating of what moves you were having to do because you can't wait until real time to respond
like i just it made me think about that and it was like goddamn like there's a reason alexander
the great is still looked at like that because he didn't just win with numbers he defeated people
with way more numbers all the time because he was so good at that i've been watching um there's a mini series on netflix about uh i think it's like 16th century japan and this uh this
leader who was like a minor leader in the smallest province who conquered like 95 of the island of
japan um with his armies and those armies would be like 40 000 versus 40 000 samurai and uh this guy was really innovative
it's been a cool show the first thing he did he was like we need peasants fuck all these like
highborn like this and that is arm the peasants they're with us they'll fight for for everything
you know if they win they're they're going somewhere in life they'll fight harder than a
rich man and then um he imported the the guns like the they were shitty guns they
were the ones that have like a a burn a burning fuse on the back and when you pull the trigger
the fuse touches the powder and who is this he was a japanese warlord who conquered all of japan
in the 1500s and so he set up these barricades with like spikes on the front and you'd have like
three or four riflemen in each one like three or four riflemen in each
one and three or four bowmen in each one and then three or four spearmen at each one so the rifleman
would be shooting and when they're reloading the bows are covering them and if anybody gets too
close the spear guys stick them and all the enemies are trying to ride on horseback and they can't and
they can't run them over because they're behind the big spiky shields and they just slaughtered like huge huge amounts like
there would be 4 000 versus 4 000 and 1200 of the enemy would die which is apparently a huge number
they talked about presenting him with 5 000 heads at one point it was uh it's been fun i can't always
there's so much ritual suicide back i don't know it But but for for for that to be true, like every history on every continent would be exaggerating. Right. Because this is the this is the Japanese and their records saying thirty thousand versus thirty thousand. in the Macedonian histories or whatever, it's like Alexander the great defeated a million Persians.
And it's like,
well,
he defeated a shit ton of Persians,
probably not a million Persians,
a lot of Persians,
probably not the same way that like in the Bible,
every time you see the number like 144,000 or whatever,
or like,
that just means like a shit ton.
I know that one of those
cities the uh maybe the capital um when the spanish came over and conquered was like the third or
fourth biggest city in the planet it was it was like half a million people or something no it was
more it was the third or fourth biggest uh city on the planet at the time is that the population
density it was like on an island and it was uh the population
density of modern modern day new york where i believe uh south america that when uh is it
cortez was he the one doing it all when the spanish came over and conquered mexico to me
but i'm not sure yeah cortez conquered that what were you saying john uh so i believe
originally the spaniards before they got uh, what people believe for the population size is actually 10 times bigger back then.
I guess what happened when the Spaniards went over, they did bring over disease.
And they just kind of killed them all by accident.
Which is why when people came back, there wasn't so many cities anymore.
It's just because the disease went rampant yeah did it ever go any other way because without cities they just didn't build
immunities and sickness is that because like why is it when europe comes to america or south america
they bring tons of disease but they don't get any so the reason is is apparently because well
there are some diseases they get but what i've read and who knows how true it is is that because the europeans had been
uh breeding and raising like animals and shit for so long like being around pigs and cows and
chickens and all that stuff has a bunch of disease that you're exposed to all the time
and if you're not raising pigs and animal husbandry and shit like some of those guys
weren't when they showed up in south america they weren't used to all those pathogens that you got just being around chickens
and cows well also you got to keep in mind is like smallpox is very deadly and and a lot of
these people would have already had smallpox and survived it and that means you're immune to
smallpox but it doesn't mean you're not they had tons of animals with those fleas on them with
fucking small no that's not how smallpox is spread.
No, but it is how smallpox is inoculated.
That's how the plague is spread.
Isn't there something about cows giving you a non-deadly version of smallpox?
This is smallpox, basically like chicken pox.
Yeah, it's just like way more severe.
Yeah, and it's scarring.
I think they...
I think that's what it was.
It was smallpox for South America.
There's a couple of documentaries that talks about that.
Yeah,
but I still know how it spreads.
How does small,
but is it,
do you call skin contact?
Skin contact.
Really?
Skin.
I remember watching easiest way to avoid a disease.
I can't remember what I watched not too long ago.
I think it was the John Adams documentary,
but they were showing how they inoculated for smallpox back then.
They,
John Adams documentary, but they were showing how they inoculated for smallpox back then.
The doctor rolled up in front of these rich people's house with a dying boy who had smallpox in a wagon and cut open one of his sores. He's like, it's easy, boy.
One last time.
And like cuts open his sore and takes the pus out and then goes in with like a pus covered mirror and like scratches it with a needle
and start stabbing everybody in the family in the arm repeatedly giving them little pus injections
and and he told her he's like and because they were doing it like that and not whatever modern
methods we have of weakening the the virus or whatever or bacterium whatever um one of the girls got just got smallpox
he's like it may be light or it may be heavy it's like this isn't a period
motherfucker it's smallpox and the one kids in bed by the time they find out i am two towns away
some other family with my i was telling that story i had no idea where it was going he's
like they take the boy from place to place they pierce it they get the schmear and i'm like is this going on crackers what what's coming
next peanut butter jelly it's smallpox yeah that would be disgusting you have to it's like uh you
know what i'm not looking the sword juice i'll just take my chances that's why that's why i
wasn't i i didn't mind lining up and getting the vaccine because i know in olden times that's why that's why i wasn't i didn't mind lining up and getting the vaccine because
i know in olden times that's the sort of shit we had to deal with and yet that lady was like yes
cut that goo out of that boy and get in here to me and my little girls because we don't want the
fucking smallpox and then oops well i mean one of them got it, but she healed up. She was a little, you know, like a bad case of chicken pox, really.
Yeah, but I mean, she probably never looked the same.
She had Edward James Olmos face.
Yeah, maybe so. That's true.
And he's ugly.
What's your thought on the vaccine now?
Do you still have the same view on it?
I'll tell you, the things that I don't like and that stick out to me is
weird on the the whole covid vaccine thing or um some of the stuff that the that i've heard about
fauci um and and some of the times that he was purposefully misleading for one reason or another
and just there just seemed like there was a time when it was how many boosters and vaccines do i
need to do i need to get before you'll allow me to keep my job again?
How many more?
Let me know the number.
I'm okay.
Not for this job.
I'm just saying, if you're a guy working at fucking Apple or Amazon.
At this job, Kyle, you get out of prison, you're just better.
Yeah.
This show is a resurgence.
But imagine if you worked at fucking
Apple I don't know doing Apple things
and they were like you need your
JB12 booster Woody
and it's 2023
and you're like
what are you talking about my JB20L
booster yeah it's the newest thing
you'll need four shots and
an enema and
do what I'm told because I'm
a liberal cuck.
I don't have shots or
masks or costumes I won't wear.
What I was behind
was the idea of look. I don't understand
the gimp mask, but okay, Biden.
I don't think this
ass plug is keeping me safe.
Are you okay?
I'm pretty far from fucking okay.
I'm pretty fucking far from okay.
There was just that point when global commerce was shutting down
and it seemed like prices were getting high
and there was this seeming risk that the whole
global economy could shut down.
It seemed like maybe around then
was when that shipping ship
got stuck in the Panama Canal maybe
around that time
too and just uh suez canal i think that happened again since then yeah was it the suez canal i
thought it was the panama canal the suez canal is the i thought the suez was the one where um with
the oil and uh it is it was the suez that is the one and that is where it happened oh okay i always
thought he was in the panama canal like fucking wedged in South America. Those are the only two canals I know.
It just seemed like we all needed to fucking buck up and go inside and stop the spread.
Because what I was thinking was that there were people out there
just coughing on everybody, running around,
and if they just cut it out for a week, just a week,
I'm not going to take your life away,
not even your whole goddamn summer.
Let's all stay inside for a week, and it just seemed like it'd go away. Like if everybody
stopped fucking for a week, we'd get rid of certain
STDs, but we just can't do it.
That is not how that would work. That's exactly
how it works, Taylor.
You think everybody's chlamydia is going to go away?
Taylor, trust the science.
Trust the science. Dude, if Kyle contracts
syphilis, you stop fucking, it
goes away. It just
disappears. I think in Kyle's scenario, you treatis. You stop fucking. It goes away. It just disappears.
I think in Kyle's scenario, you treat it.
You treat everyone.
You think that's how shit works?
Like you just don't go outside with the flu and it goes away?
Wait, wait, wait. Actually, Taylor, I am kind of confused.
Because like, let's pretend this is a universe where you could get 100% compliance.
100.
No exceptions.
Couldn't people with fucking syphilis take their penicillin
all get better and then it's just eradicated from the planet what am i missing i'm missing
something maybe i don't know like i don't know how that works either but i it would
because it's a virus applying that to covet and I don't know why he's wrong.
With like, it would go away entirely if everyone stayed home. Well, let's say COVID, let's say you're looking for the word.
Some people think COVID just springs out of the ground.
You're infectious, right?
You're able to transmit this for two weeks, hypothetically,
because that's about right.
Could you, if everyone, everyone stayed inside for two weeks then i mean that's just the
whole like that's just silly though like that's not how it operates right like the vast majority
of people are not podcasters who can stay home most people have to go okay okay so i'll admit
it's it's uh hard to achieve nearly impossible to achieve like so i'm on board with you there
but in theory i think kyle was like if we can get close to everyone, I'm willing to partake for two weeks.
But I thought COVID was able to go through some of the wild animal life as well, though.
I don't think that's true.
They did say that for a while.
I don't know.
I don't think that's a thing.
It was like dogs can get it or something.
There's no way dogs get COVID.
I don't know.
All I know is the media,
they were talking about it.
They were pushing it kind of hard at one point.
They were saying dogs get it.
The same reason you don't get kettle top, asshole.
Don't you assume I've never heard that.
You ever gotten parvo?
Parvo?
I've got the ick right now.
Wait, do dogs get ick?
No, I don't think so.
I believe dogs can get the
black plague, but
they usually carry most of their stuff
for ticks and then
for fleas and then if it
can be passed on to other animals or
humans. I believe that is a thing.
Yeah, a lot of disease
can be spread from animals.
Some diseases is only for humans
what's that animal that all of them have leprosy is it armadillos or a lot of them
have leprosy something like that there is something about they they could they have
you can catch leprosy from an armadillo like i guess they all have it latent but they are not susceptible
to leprosy so like they're not the walking dead universe worked like it's just there below the
surface leprosy is a terrifying disease i didn't know until like the last few years that apparently
the vast majority of people have an innate immunity to it like even if like all of us
if we went and like shook hands with a leper and
then like licked our palm unless we were predisposed to it we'd be fine but back in the
day like the bible doesn't sound terrifying at all taylor i'm not ready prepared to take on leprosy
have you seen the the pictures of people with leprosy oh my god like they have that shit where
like their teeth are still in their mouth but their lips are long gone. And they look like a scary skeleton.
Their noses run off, all their appendages.
It's hell.
All teeth, no lips.
This is the worst date ever.
All teeth and no lips.
Dude, for me, a woman has to have lips.
Yeah.
So what do you do for fun, John? When you do for fun john when you're not
grinding when you're not looking for new business opportunities what do you do to cool off
i guess nature is my favorite thing um i like learning i love learning a lot like
lately i've been learning uh muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
I love a challenge.
If it's challengeable, I like to learn it then.
Yeah.
I don't like boring things. I don't want to rain on your parade.
It sounds like you like the idea of joining the armed forces,
but you could learn those skills without signing away years of your
life to the armed forces because there's a chance that they'll just send you through basic training
you'll shoot like i don't know 300 bullets and then they'll make you drive a truck for four years
but you could hire somebody to teach you how to shoot but as long as as long as you read the
contract and you get them if you tell them exactly what you want on the contract and you won't sign it and you got basic training already and you won't sign
the contract they're going to fix the contract for you you sound like you know more about it
than i do i just see people on reddit sometimes who are like signed up to do this and it's like
i don't know call duty now i'm doing this a long time they tell you quote
unquote you have a job but if it says something else in the contract well that's the contract
you fucked now you signed it i actually so i've been on some of those subreddits too like ones
that active duty army people are in and there's some of them give advice to people entering the
army and it seems like a good place
to spend your time if you're about to do that they'll tell you what to say to the recruiter
and what to make sure is in the contract because just read the contract that is advice that was
given to call of duty youtubers in 2013 read contracts is hard and sometimes they're intentionally
written in a way that's difficult to understand oh yeah i've been through a lot of school i still
struggle to read contracts i would hire someone to help me read it i don't i don't trust
myself to read any contracts that matter like with any amount of money or any amount of me being
given away like like literal you know i i don't trust myself to understand with it maybe if it
was like a couple sentences but then it's like shit what is this not covering now i've been
there should be more here right yeah it was just like you is this not covering now i've been there should be
more here right yeah it was just like you get this i get that i'd be like man we probably should
have covered some what ifs in here yeah the more they add the harder it is to read the less they
add the more you're at risk you need a lawyer that's the racket i um you know like you gotta
you gotta pay them their little
little percentage to make sure that you don't fuck up because you know like you said with those
youtube contracts back in the day there's a lot of that um most contracts are predatory in nature
the first one yeah well for example right after i got off the tv show, I did a photo shoot with someone, and they were trying
to convince me to sign this contract.
And they threatened to
sue me if I didn't sign the contract.
And the contract
was basically saying if I
saw anything under my name,
they would get 25% of it.
And that would have lasted
for seven months, but there was a loophole,
I guess, it could have lasted indefinitely. So this guy, if I would have signed, it would have lasted for seven months. But there was a loophole, I guess.
It could have lasted indefinitely.
So this guy, if I would have signed it,
would have earned 25 or something percent of everything I sell under my name.
Right.
Remember the grand finale of Fish Tank when Sam Hyde read the contract
and told the people that there was no guarantee they were getting paid at all?
That's true.
Contracts can be like that.
Now, he was not predatory, so he paid people, but
if he was,
everyone there signed the contract, including you.
Yeah.
Anyway.
But the nice thing
about having autism
or any disability,
if you sign a contract, you can get out of it
because you want it in your white mind, quote unquote.
Just like how all those chicks, when they get married
and they sign that contract
and they want to take none of this money away,
I was depressed.
That contract doesn't count anymore.
I doubt that's true.
No, no.
Those contracts get thrown out all the time
because, quote-unquote,
maybe she drank that day
or maybe she has anxiety
or any type of...
Are you telling me
prenups are thrown out all the time
because maybe she drank or was depressed?
Yeah.
There's a lot of cases...
All the same.
Read your contracts and get a lawyer like me personally i
wouldn't even want to get married with legally with the government just because of that alone
i bet there's a good like website or service that does that that that you a lawyer reads
your contract for a quick flat fee and like gives you a quick one over like i that should be a thing
right like i don't that is the thing yeah yeah. Yeah, I don't need your services.
I don't need your whole firm getting an order.
I don't need an appointment to your office I have to drive to.
Can we get a video call?
If you want to lower your contract for free,
all you got to do is tell him you got this case for him
that he couldn't make a lot of money,
and he will read it for you and tell you what you should do,
and then he's going to expect you to sign up and then you just don't sign up.
Yeah.
I don't want to make any enemies in the legal world,
but I would like an app where I could just legitimately like pay him whatever,
a hundred dollars even for a 20 minute conversation that,
that was filled with knowledge and wisdom.
But you could just do that in person at that point.
Yeah.
But I don't want to avoid that. I want to point. Yeah, but I don't want to avoid that.
I want to avoid the in person.
I don't want to go see you.
I want to click my phone three buttons and go,
hey, lawyer man, I've got this PDF
that just got sent to you.
Would you look that over and we have a call in two hours?
Absolutely. See you soon, Kyle.
Yeah.
My theory is Kyle goes through
spans of time where he's part vampire.
No, no. I've been diurnal for a long time now.
For a long time, yeah.
Yes, I've been a diurnal boy for a year at least.
Ever since I got that dog, I have to be because he's up at 6 a.m.
What's diurnal? I know nocturnal.
That means I'm up during the daytime.
It's just not nocturnal.
It's just the normal one it's the normal well normal if you're a man not if you're a bat let's not be species here let's
be all inclusive any bat people out there living are like normal huh what are we your diaries are
pretty smart that's all i'm saying uh yeah no since i got the dog i'm up at 6 a.m he with with
him every morning so if i do have a dog uh it's a bernie doodle half bernie's mountain dog half
poodle very silly looking dog yeah but i've got to get up with them so i go to sleep sometimes
i'll stay up till four but then i'm up at eight i just gotta get up and go that's not enough what
a horrible day that must be.
I would be in a bad mood all day if I slept from four to eight.
Nothing would get done.
There's no way I'd work out.
Not me, because I'd nap from noon to four.
Well, yeah, you got to sleep.
There's nothing worse than laying down,
thinking you're going to nap for 40 minutes at 1.20 in the afternoon,
and you wake up at like 705.
And you're like, oh, oh, like what day is it?
Like what's happening?
You're so do you guys?
I get so disoriented when I wake up from a nap. If it's at like seven at night.
This guy is complete.
This is the story of someone who's incompetent at unemployment.
You need to get more comfortable with day napping, my friend.
I need to.
I just set an alarm i just i
said alarm i take a nap i'll often take like a 40 minute nap before we start and you know what
you could do too that could help a lot if you lay down with your head elevated back and your feet
about two to one feet above your head um that's the Jocko Wilnick fucking nap.
Wait, how does it work?
So you lay down flat,
head a little bit tilted, feet
hollow up,
an all black room, if
possible. You do that for about
30, 45 minutes, and you get
a lot better sleep because all the blood will go to your brain.
Jocko says,
Jocko says, you know, there's some nights I get like,
you know, 12 minutes of sleep. So during the day
I'll need a few naps. Let me tell you how
Jocko sleeps. I get maximum
efficiency out of my naps. Elevate my feet,
lower my head, dark room.
12 minute nap, I'm good to go.
If the CIA was torturing me, that's
how they'd make me nap. That sounds like bullshit.
It sounds like bullshit.
I'll tell you what, I've taken those naps before where
you need a nap but eight minutes into actually being asleep you wake up and it feels like you're
hung over and like like like like i'm drunk now like i can't operate heavy machinery i feel so
out of it because i was just in sleep and then jerked back out of it yeah i agree completely
the counterpoint i've taken those naps
where 20 minutes later I wake up
and it's like right in the right part of my sleep cycle
where I am the best me.
I am just charged up.
It was the greatest nap and now I'm ready to go.
I can be a real piece of shit if I don't get my whole,
if I like, there's a period of waking me up during my nap
where I become grouchy Kyle
and I'm just a piece of shit.
I can feel how mean I am.
I'm like a rattlesnake.
I just want to hurt somebody's feelings.
Sometimes I can't tell that Kyle's joking about being cranky in the chat sometimes
if we're in there with the patrons, and Kyle will be like,
this game's driving me crazy.
I can't find this item.
And I'm like, ah, he's goofing around. And someone will be like, Kyle, driving me crazy I can't find this item and I'm like ah like he's
goofing around and someone will be like
Kyle I think I found it over here and then
they'll be like that's not the item you
fucking retard you fucking
idiot I fucking hate you
I hate you I know you think I'm
joking but I hate you
and I'm like dude
it's just a it's just a gem in Diablo
I need all the gems
i need the gems yeah i don't know what i think about too john is you're uh you're a very religious
guy very uh devout christian i believe is that something you were raised that way or as an adult
you jumped into it more uh so i was raised it like i accepted jesus in my
heart when i was a little kid i would i never really learned too much about the bible or
the church it kind of something i jumped into more my by myself in my mid-teens okay um yeah
it's not normal you don't see that a lot that's a bad way to phrase it that's not
common would be better i'm sorry um so in your teens you got more into religion yeah i feel like
most teens are scratching away from it while their parents pull them towards it
yeah so so all the churches here locally are kind of like trash um they're always pushing some type of
real ass agenda okay and so we never ended up going to church because of that and you know
around 15 16 i was like i didn't like who i was so i was trying to change who i was and i found
this facebook group with actually a really good pastor,
someone who wasn't pushing
an agenda at all.
So I started watching his live streams.
And then I found this friend
on this app,
you know, just to make friends.
And Katie,
she started doing Bible studies with me
and helping me out a lot with that,
which was pretty cool
and got me a lot lot with that, which was pretty cool and
got me a lot more into it. Nice. I went to religious school and whatnot growing up,
but something I've noticed with religious people I know is that the people that get into it on
their own take it much, much more seriously than people who kind of just
continued it as a habit through their childhood and now just are kind of like yeah i'm a catholic
the same way like i sometimes only eat fish on friday never like that basically like my whole
like dad side of the family they're like we're catholic yeah it's like you guys haven't been
to church like you're not even Easter Catholics.
Like, you don't even go for the two big days, but, uh, have you found that it's,
it's been positive for you and in all aspects of your life, relationships, jobs, you,
you glad with how it's going? Um, I feel like it has a lot more positive outcome than negative outcome, I would say.
Yeah.
I agree with you. I, the people I see in my life who are like sincerely religious, they seem to have more happiness and contentment, which I guess makes sense because like, I'm very jealous of that.
Like, I wish, don't you like, I know what you've like come down on the other side of it but like wouldn't it be really good like to believe
sincerely 100 like after this there's something way better yeah yeah my um so my parents are
super sick right now um they're in their 70s my mom's had cancer twice this year in different places. My father just got out of the hospital.
And, you know, I never knock people who like find God, even if it's temporarily in moments of stress.
And it's not what I've done.
But if it's what you do, that's cool.
I'm not knocking it.
cool i'm not knocking it and i can see the appeal of you know a little grace a little heaven a little like you know just some goodness on the other side of this thing i uh yeah so i can see
why it would give someone a sense of peace yeah absolutely like it'd be positive to be like oh
god life's pretty shit right now at least this is just like
a little preview for the good stuff like yeah right yeah in my case it's like ah someone i
care about is going through it right now so uh but you know i have full confidence they're about
to see nirvana or you know whatever you want to call it. And yeah, that would give comfort if I could buy that.
What's your conception of heaven, John?
What do you think it's going to be like?
You know, I haven't read too much in the Bible about heaven specifically.
I know it's not what you see in the movies, though.
A lot of people think it's like all clouds
and some gay-ass shit
and all these people have wings.
Most people don't even know what angels
look like. Most angels, they have
a shit ton of eyeballs.
You know,
fields going around
them.
I know heaven is not nearly what people think
it is same thing with angels at least not for media um
from what i do know about heaven from what i have read you know it seems like a cool thing
it seems like an awesome thing to do or go yeah it does seem cool if i'm gonna be in heaven
or hell heaven 10 times out of 10 hell terrible marketing they let you know up front it's gonna
suck it's gonna be bad something that a lot of people tell me is uh because quote unquote you're
christian you know god we always oh jesus will always forgive you when you could you know if
you make a mistake you, you're forgiven always.
And the reason why a lot of people
use this excuse is
Jesus
has gifted you with
the eternal life.
Okay?
He never said that eternal life is
going to heaven or hell.
Okay?
So a lot of people, they get that tripped up.
So I'm thinking,
that's why I think Orthodox Christians
is a little bit better than regular Christians.
Because internal life just means internal life.
Does that mean you go to heaven?
Does that mean you go to hell?
Yeah.
Hopefully heaven then.
What is it about, I guess, the orthodoxy
that I guess attracts you more than Catholicism or Protestantism or any of the other ones?
I feel like Orthodox Christians, I don't know how well it is in the West. We haven't gone to really a choice for that yet but i've from i have looked into in the in the middle east is a
hasn't really lost its teachings versus most of the other you know chapters of christianity or
whatever you doesn't teach what is in the book anymore, they're pushing an agenda.
A lot of people, they'd be all like,
like they'd be teasing it,
they'd be like, well, the way I see this,
or the way I think it means by this is so on and so on.
Well, no, it says exactly what it means.
And then these people put a whole
completely different spin on it.
Which is why I don't like most of the chores here locally, because they always, they always put some crazy spin on it um which is why i don't like most of the church here locally because there was
they always put some crazy spin on it putting other words different because each word has
its own definition why are you putting all these different definitions in a world or in a book that
was never dealt before for that sentence or something like that you know yeah with uh i
don't know if it's just catholicism or if's the Orthodox churches also. One thing I know about the Orthodox churches, I think it's all of them, that's obviously better than Catholicism, is the priests can have wives and children and families in the Orthodox churches, which I would imagine helps weed out a lot of the ghouls that go there to pray on children in the Catholic church.
That would make sense. Yeah.
Do you think they go there to pray on children in the Catholic Church. That would make sense, yeah. Yeah, like if you...
Do you think they go there to pray on children?
100%.
100% people who pray on children
will go places where they get access to children.
So if you looked at Italy,
I forgot what the city or capital is called,
but it's under control of the Catholic Church.
Vatican City, yeah.
Yeah, that place is the number Church. Vatican City, yeah.
Yeah.
That place is the number one place where kids go missing.
Yeah, I would not doubt that in some per capita look at it,
but yeah, a lot of these priests, 100% are doing it because they want guilt-free, blame-free association with kids.
And that's why I see a whole lot of people doing that.
They get moved to different countries all the time, too.
I think that perhaps the lifestyle of being a priest, this is, you know, remaining celibate
when humans aren't supposed to be that, can make some people become twisted.
You might have been a good person when you first decided to become a priest you might have been the best i could see that
and now you find yourself at 35 years old just jerking off for 35 for yeah maybe 20 years and uh
and you're like i don't, finding your most vulnerable outlets.
And some people go in that direction when if they could have lived a normal, more fulfilling life, they wouldn't have, I think.
Maybe.
Maybe I'm just more cynical. I think those predators seek out positions like that to abuse them.
I don't think that they became a child abuser.
I think they went into it like, this is a way to do this.
You're born a pedophile.
You don't become one.
You don't train people to become pedophiles.
And they certainly aren't doing it in seminary school.
Although maybe they're allowing it.
And I bet there's a subculture at seminary school where guys are like, hey, hi.
It's like, got you there you don't think it's possible that these
people get a little fucking warped and twisted trying to live a celibate life for an entire
adulthood when you get warped and twisted you get into big titty girl porn or glory holes
you don't say you don't say strays every episode you know you don't suddenly say i want i want some little boy
ass you know you don't say that and that's what these guys do just like that coach i was talking
about that they found with all those videos of him drugging it's they have a thing they're into
like the thing that they're into will often be a boy and and it's not that they're that they
haven't came in a while and they're extra extra
horny like like don't even try to relate to them because they're another thing they're pedophiles
and and then we our brains literally don't work the way that theirs do because yeah whatever like
the thing that attracts you most about sex with women and with or like the sexiest thing in the world to you to them
that's children that's children and i don't think you ever become that i think you just are that
yeah i haven't you aren't where i often try to like rationalize or normalize what people are
saying right if taylor told me he could jump off buildings some people might be that's just a total lie i'd be like probably some buildings you know like up to two stories maybe
he's better than most like i just trying to make sense out of it instead of just calling a non you
know outrageous is that the same thing about gay people do you think call i think that gay people
are born gay i think that many times because of the way our society
works for better or worse people don't discover that they are gay until later in life or people
don't discover that they're bi or somewhere else on that so they suppress sexuality until later in
life and not necessarily suppressed but maybe just never even entertained the thought because it it's it's so other it's so it's the hated thing or whatever like you would never even
consider it it you know um you know i don't like russell's until i tried him have you ever heard
the psyop that russell took credit for about making america gay no i did not what did they say
um so i forget the dude's name i could pull it up after the podcast and send it to you but this America gay? No, I did not. What did they say?
I forget the dude's name.
I could pull it up after the podcast and send it to you.
Back in the 60s, there was this guy who did a whole interview
with some
US, no, not a US,
a Canadian
talk horse guy.
He did an interview with them.
He told them exactly about how
they were planning around
this time in
the US. Most of the people here would
be a lot more feminine
and a lot weaker.
The way
they started it was
through college. They put
these teachers in
college to teach their views and their ideas
to all these students. And the idea was these students would slowly do the same.
You know, then they become teachers, they become high school teachers, elementary school teachers.
Sure. And over time, it was going to happen. And i believe they said they basically accomplished what they wanted
and half the time that they were expecting it would happen and i don't know that's just from
the interview i watched the full interview is about two hours there's a few different articles
you can find online with like a 10 minute clip the russ Russians made us gay twice as fast as they had predicted.
I would love to watch that
movie. Igor, come look
at the numbers. They're gayer than ever
before. Was it called Operation
Infection? I'll email it to you guys after this.
Yeah.
Operation Reach Around.
I googled it and saw
Operation Infection. I'm just not sure it's the same thing.
Operation Pink Kryptonite. Operation Don't Show's the same thing. Operation Pink Kryptonite.
Operation Don't Show, Don't Tell.
Is Pink Kryptonite part of the lore?
Yeah, in the comics.
I know.
It makes him gay.
John, do you think that is a bigger contributor
to the feminization, the lowering of tea and men and all that?
Or do you think the food that we eat and all the.
So the lowering of tea is for many different factors.
One is tap water.
The soaps people use, the plastic we use, the foods we eat,
these phones we use, the electronics we use,
everything basically we have in this world, it lowers your testosterone.
Nick, the vape stuff that lowers your t smoking weed lowers your t smoking naked smoking uh cigarettes that's made in the u.s
lowers your t tobacco by itself can actually in
not all those chemicals added there's a whole bunch of different things that glorious tea over time.
And if you just put his body through all of that,
like if you look at Amish people,
for example,
a lot of these Amish people,
they don't get autism.
They don't get heart attacks.
They don't get diabetes or any really diseases or cancels.
They live in a world without all this garbage that we use.
That's poisoning us.
Like the phone
is useful yes but it has a has a cost it has a price for it i wouldn't swap places though i'll
take the cancer you know those amish fucking losers you know like the ones that are out there
actually amish life in it for realsies like i bet that life i don't die there's so much people
is okay i was reading about this they're so much happier. There's so much happier than me. Yeah, because they don't know any fucking better. I was reading about this. They're good with electric
bicycles now, which feels
really high tech, but
they're just like, hey, you know, just better than
a horse and buggy, better than a regular horse.
I don't like that. That's cheating. That's not in the spirit
of it. I want the Amish to stay
Amish. It's not a real Amish
if they're doing it, Dan. Why?
They're Mennonites if they're doing that.
I think they all drink, though.
Drink? No.
I think they brew cider
or some shit and drink it every year, because
I've seen so many Amish DUI videos
where the cop's like, hey, pull over!
God damn it, he's asleep in there, and the
horse is running away with him.
He's asleep in the buggy,
passed out drunk, and the horse is,
he goes, ah, hell, the horse knows the way home i mean probably like true that the horse has been that way before the horse knows
uh jebediah's just taking a nap it's fine no big deal it's true i guess there's carcinogens and
everything right but yeah they are way healthier than us because they eat way better food than us.
I don't know.
They're active all the time.
They do studies on this.
They're literally way healthier than us.
They have lower rates on it.
Cause I would like to see on the Amish.
Yeah.
Because they like,
think about how much impact,
how much impactful,
what's more impactful than the food you eat every day.
They're eating fresh,
clean stuff and they're physically active.
Like that would like, I bet you could feed them
I bet you could give them Burger King
and they would be just as fucking healthy
because they're in that goddamn field plowing that bitch up
every day burning them wafers.
Are you sure about that?
They need to study the runs for no one.
They're flame broiled, alright?
The wafers are fine.
No, no, no.
Are you guys...
You're on your own with this.
What is the burger?
Ding!
Don't forget it.
What's that, John?
You never look into conspiracy theories.
We love conspiracy theories.
Yeah, all sorts of them.
Yes.
What's one of your favorites?
What are a couple of your top conspiracy theories
you've been getting into recently?
This is one of the ones I learned about a year ago.
It was covered in the media about this happening across the U.S. and Japan.
So people would be eating at McDonald's or something,
and they would find a teeth or a toe in a hamburger.
Teeth or toes.
And it usually traced back to a little kid that went missing.
And if you look at how many kids go missing a year in the
united states there's over 500 000 kids a year and so they'll expect exit because you know what
do you do when you're done when you kidnap someone okay you can't just like throw them away someone
dice them up throw them in the front if you put them back in the food and people eat them. So let's say if 5,000 kids, no, not 5,000, 500,000 kids go missing a year.
Okay.
And you ate 5,000 hamburgers from McDonald's.
You're eating about 100 pounds of human meat like a year then.
If you ate 5,000 McDonald's hamburgers.
Okay.
And those 500,000 kids that go missing,
they never get found a year or two
just in the U.S. alone.
Well, that's not great.
500,000 American children
go missing every year? That doesn't seem right.
Well, he's real close. So what's
true is that there are 500,000
reports of missing children every year.
Over 97.8% of them
are found though because
you've got so many yeah we find their teeth in burgers half a million children go missing but
i'm fucking sick of burger king it's all toes and teeth and i'm tired of paying for this shit
i'm on the i'm on a website called i got silk and chinese hair in my teeth
a website called findthekids.org.
So those are their numbers, according to research. So half a million
go missing, but they find them all.
They do find most of them.
What better way for a human to get
nutrition than to eat another human? It seems
like they'd be perfectly formulated for what you're trying
to build. You are what you
eat. You are what you eat.
Genius. That's what they meant
the human trafficking victim
oh yeah that's what they meant that's interesting i don't know anything about the cannibal you don't
have any issues with it other than like it's it's disgusting and wrong if i knew that the that the
meat wasn't from your bias if i knew that the meat hadn't been taken from someone who'd been
like violently killed like
like like they're like taken from them for example especially for the meat that i don't want to do
but if someone had passed away or if someone had for whatever sick purposes had volunteered to be
eaten like whatever if we got a fresh kill that's that's uh guilt-free i'll say and i would absolutely partake like if it's my dying if it's my dying wish
that you guys both have to eat me yeah would you do it for my right now i would yes fred taylor
off my plate you know what taylor give me seconds you'd have my big like fat like ham hock shoulder
and you'd be like god damn i'm tired of all this
silvery skin and fat i have all right no i went i went 2023 i would eat i wouldn't eat you guys
i i wouldn't do it i think i'm a little offended is it because that would be is it the chemicals
no it's that oh wait i would i would see it as i would see it as bullying i would be like i'll
make you more aggressive to give he's trying to make me traumatized
as a joke.
Because that's the only reason I would request
that you guys eat me to fuck with you after I die.
I would eat you happily. I would invite people.
I'd livestream
eating Taylor's ass.
Look, you can see the little divot right here.
And I'd be cutting into a sous-vided,
I would sous-vide you, right?
Up to, I don't know what
the correct temperature for human is but i'm going to bring you up to 165 like your chicken
and then i'm going to take you're going to be in there with rosemary garlic some butter take you
out throw you on the uh the cast iron right get a nice sizzle get a little uh little char right
out of there base with butter base with butter we got to work quick now okay you're gonna eat
rest for five minutes and right on the live stream.
Cutting you open. I'm going the other direction
with my live stream. We've got a pathetic meal time
this thing. We're going to put Taylor on a George
Foreman grill.
I'll fucking haunt you.
You really should do that.
I would not abide that.
John, what are your...
Do you agree with me that cannibalism
is immoral? that it's wrong.
The recipe of it.
So I would give you two different answers.
One, if you're a dude and you eat another dude,
both off, that's gay as fuck.
Second answer.
Is that true if you eat gay cows and stuff?
Or like chickens?
If you eat a male, if you eat a rooster I would rather
just starve to death
instead of eat a portion
but I wouldn't starve to death
I would just fast and meditate
yeah
but there is a time when you can't fast anymore
fasting and meditating
so it's all about how you think
what's going to happen
if you think you're starving to death you're going's going to happen if you if you think you're starving to
death you're going to starve to death and die if you're fasting you control this reality you
control what happens what other pieces of reality do you control with your mind thank you i don't
know i guess just my life just that one just starving okay like what what if i slowly raised
the temperature in the room to a temperature that would kill a normal man?
But because you were meditating and imagining a shield of ice,
do you think that you could withstand higher temperatures
than a regular man who was unprepared?
Oh, I know I could withstand a higher temperature
than the average person without a doubt.
Just because of my experience as a wildland firefighter.
That's true.
Let alone also
I
try to put myself in extreme
conditions at all times. For example,
this past winter,
I went swimming when it was 5 degrees out
in the river here locally.
I do that on a regular basis
during the winter. During the summer, I try to put myself out in the river here locally. I do that on a regular basis during rental.
And then during the summer, I try to put
myself in extreme
heat conditions without
water. I could go for days
without water, weeks sometimes
if I wanted to. When I was wildland
firefighting, I would usually only
drink about one water bottle a day
while hiking up all this stuff and doing all
this work when everyone else would be drinking at shit time.
And I'd be fully functional and I would do a lot better than everyone else.
Because your body is more efficient.
The lack of it.
Yeah.
I wish Taylor had been here for that.
Taylor drinks a lot of water, but he probably doesn't need to if he could master that technique.
Yeah.
If Taylor had a stronger mind, he wouldn't need water either.
That's incredible.
technique yeah if taylor had a stronger mind he wouldn't need water either that's incredible so you think that through experience through toughening yourself through from exposure
and from focus and meditation you've you've been able to you could you could weeks you think
without water or or maybe just a week so if i'm doing weeks i would have to walk myself up to that
just a week so if i'm doing weeks i would have to walk myself up to that yeah of course the longest i have done has been a week you know it's not uncommon for me to go three or four days without
water just because you know like i don't always drink water um three or four days regularly are
you drinking something else like you have like i survive strictly on milk because that's less
impressive no no no no like if I'm not drinking water,
I'm not really drinking anything.
So the only two drinks
I drink now currently,
I've quit the coffee actually
and the alcohol completely
because coffee and alcohol
makes you age faster.
The only two things
I currently drink
is raw milk and spring water.
I think I got a fresh spring water from this morning I collected.
So you're loading up on water.
Kyle, unmute yourself.
You're loading up on water in preparation of your next four-day bit.
No, no.
That's just the spring water I collected for my week.
This is stream water, like from a nearby creek, a small river.
No, not a stream a spring
it comes directly out spring water okay okay yeah you don't want to drink stream water you'll get
very sick no no no taylor i'm tough on you and i don't get viruses or so shit dude that's just
can i see that container one more time because it looks like something from supernatural like
you just caught a demon's soul.
And you've got it bottled up in there.
Holy fucking shit.
Look at that big boy.
Okay, you got a little spout on the end.
A little dispenser.
I like the spout.
That's my favorite part.
That's pretty cool.
You're going to throw a couple lemon slices in there.
Get a little vitamin C going.
Keep the scurvy at bay.
No, I usually just eat my lemons by itself.
Oh, you're just eating lemons?
Yeah.
No, you're not. You peel? I don't even know.
You're eating it like an orange slice?
Wait a second. Do you have any lemons
right now? No, I don't.
Wolfed them down.
Dude, you can't keep
lemons around this guy.
That's wild.
Do you subscribe to any of the other uh online
influencers medical advice like like the uh the liver king i don't know if you were you watched
him he was real big for a while with his raw diet and i think maybe he also preached exposing his
butthole to the sun's rays i think he thought you need to get butthole uv radiation exposure
oh that's hunter b, that's Hunter Biden.
That's right.
Yeah.
No, he did have something about like you should be naked in the sun.
And of all the things he said, there's no way it's bad to be naked in the sun.
That probably feels great.
But your asshole specifically, your perineum and booty.
Oh, well, like, how are you supposed to enjoy the sun?
Like laying pointing your ass at the sky?
He's like downward facing dog, essentially.
Like you're offering your butthole to the sun.
Oh, I thought it was more just kind of enjoying nature.
No, you chant raw.
Take my hole.
What was that guy's fucking retarded website?
We made fun of it.
Didn't we make fun of that guy's website?
Like all his tips where it was like the fifth principle, ferocity.
Enter every engagement like a
lion pack you are the alpha i don't remember that it's like you're five four a lot of times when i
go to these things 80 of it makes sense to me like i feel like it's mostly right and it doesn't matter
who like i don't mean to lump all these people together but it could be just pearly things
andrew tate liver king uh jordan peterson you look at what they're telling you and there's only a few It doesn't matter who, like, I don't mean to lump all these people together, but it could be just pearly things. Andrew Tate, liver King, Jordan Peterson.
You look at what they're telling you and there's only a few parts of it that are objectionable.
Yeah, because it's because most of it, I haven't watched many of any of those people, but the stuff I've seen that like everyone agrees with seems to be like the Jordan Peterson one of like, you should clean your room and be responsible for your life.
It's like,
yeah, that's,
that's the most basic of basic bitch advice I can imagine.
Take responsibility for yourself and be ambitious.
Most Americans these days,
they kind of need that.
Like I know people here locally,
they're 25.
They still live with their mom and dad.
And the mom and dad still makes them breakfast and wake them up to go to
work.
That sounds like, I was about to work. That sounds dope.
I was about to say, I like
that. I like that in Italy, that's a common thing.
I think that that can be...
Nothing wrong with living with your family.
Yeah, I really don't think so.
There's nothing wrong with living with your family,
but if your mom is still taking care of you,
waking you up to go to work,
cleaning your bedroom for you, doing your
laundry for you.
It's a good mom, but she's
making you a lazy
prick that can't handle her money.
My mom stopped doing that shit for me when I was a child.
I can imagine if you
were a 25-year-old you
who's hustling hard, you're not just laying in bed
all day at mom's house. You're working
two or three jobs and you're online
doing this and that. You're really going at it, putting money away or investing, whatever you want to do. Your mom's house you're you work in your two or three jobs and you're online doing this and that you're really going at it putting money away or investing whatever you want to do
and your mom's making your bed and and hooking you up with breakfast that's just a loving mom
yeah but those kids here well adults here they don't they don't do that they don't make money
they smoke you go drink and then they just play games and john i have a question for you because
i want to say i don't know about me. Do you share these same feelings with girls?
Like if there's a 25-year-old woman and she's living at home,
do you look at her the same way you do a dude?
So I do not look at them the same way as a dude, no.
Me too.
Tell me more.
Why?
Why is it okay for girls to stay home and not boys?
why why is it okay for girls to stay home and not boys well i guess i guess it depends on which culture you are we talking about we're talking about
the u.s culture we're talking about like you know for example the middle east
i was thinking of u.s but i'm open to hear what you have to say okay um i think the reason why
it's a lot more acceptable for girls to do that here in the U.S.
is because usually, for example, growing up as a kid, most kids, the girls, they get babied usually by their parents.
That's just a thing.
They usually get taken care of.
I've met so many families where the boy has to do all of his things.
He has to become successful himself.
From what I've seen, it could be wrong.
There could be other families that do it differently.
Versus the daughter, she would get those college paid for.
She would get this paid for.
They would do this for her.
I don't know if that's true everywhere. But from here locally, that's what I have seen.
It's kind of like they see girls are more innocent and they need to be
taken care of more
and I believe like in the Middle East
for example or like
Northern Africa
it's mostly a lot of Islamic
people though
and usually
for example the daughter she would stay home
before her parents
until there's a
sister who marries her.
So, you know, usually, but the only difference is like they're usually the daughter would
do a lot more to take care of the parents.
For Cecile, it's kind of the opposite way around.
The parents usually kind of take care of the daughter.
And this is from what I've seen, I think it's like a cultural norm
because, for example,
as a kid growing up, if you're
a dude, someone punches you
and you start crying, don't be
a fucking pussy. People tell
you to shut the fuck up.
If a girl gets it,
if you watch these videos
online, if one chick gets it,
the whole room of dudes turn around.
If a guy gets in his ass, no one gives a fuck.
He can defend himself.
You know?
So I think it's just like a cultural norm at that point.
People see females are more
fragile and we have to take care of them more
and provide for them. I think that's how
it's seen.
Me personally,
if I saw a female get you know, get in touch,
I'd probably step in a lot more likely versus a guy.
If I see a guy physically fit, I probably wouldn't do it.
If it's a guy that was just able or someone who's a lot younger
or maybe small, I might step in then.
Do not step into street fights ever.
No, no, no.
Did you hear him?
I like what he said here.
He said if it's anybody that he might have to tussle with, I'm out.
I'm walking away.
I'm keeping myself safe.
But if it's a kid or an old man or a cripple, I'm stepping in.
I'm white knighting the shit out of the situation.
So like mouthy quadriplegic?
Yeah.
You fucking dumping him out of his wheelchair and kicking him out, kicking him in the ass.
I don't think that's what he said.
I think he was saying what he said.
I think he was saying if the victim is someone in need,
who's small or old,
then he's more inclined to jump in.
If the victim is an able-bodied guy,
he can handle,
you know,
fuck it.
You should have been even more able-bodied.
Dang.
I thought we were on the same page.
Cause everything I said is what I,
what I feel.
No,
what you need to do is,
is just look down and go away.
If there's people fighting in public,
assume they're crazy and go away.
Really? That's not who I aspire to be.
That's kind of a good cowboy thing to do, though.
No, it's a smart thing to do.
Have you seen these retards that jump into fights on the subway
and then they have their lives ruined?
No.
Their faces slash the razor blade or something crazy. Yeah, I'm public fight because no the world is not hollywood it's not a
movie and a lot of times do you not carry on you and a lot of times she's gonna leave with him
i got my clock right next to me i keep my laptop my clock and my passport what clock is it which clock is it clock 17 so that's a full size
nine am i right it's a big boy yeah yeah uh you you mentioned conspiracy theories earlier and i
just wanted because you said you were researching some i just wanted to run through a list just a
few off the top of my head and i want to get your takes are they real are they bullshit starting up
like like the whole flat earth thing is that worth looking into or do you think it's not an export on
conspiracy theories like i could none of us if i hold something i could let you know what i know
but if i don't know it i'm not going to speak my mind on it sure do you know anything about
the flat earth what do you think about that one um I really don't know too much about it.
I know there's a big movement saying it's flat.
And I know there's a big movement saying it's not flat, obviously.
Yeah.
I think the flat earth people are mostly trolling.
It's hard to find people who are sincere with it.
I think some of them are trolling.
And then I think some of them truly do believe it.
There are some who do, yeah. that's when it gets a little tricky and a lot you know a lot of from what i've
seen a lot of these flat off people they always go back to saying nasa's fake or something like that
because nasa it was founded by a lot of naz scientists. So it makes it hard for these people to trust them.
And then they try to go and say all the space academy or space stations in every country have basically the same logo.
OK, so, you know, that's something they always try to say to saying it's like some big conspiracy and it's all made up worldwide which who knows it could be i haven't really looked into it myself i don't know i can't give
you a good answer on that yeah i'm pretty sure the flat earth would why why would the hemisphere
see different stars you know like like that one i just don't believe those people think that i i've tried so hard to
find unironic genuine people who talk about the flat earth thing and the i've maybe found like
one or two every time it's like fuck he got me again like this person just said something that
made it clear they're like fucking with me i i think when i look at a conspiracy theory uh the first thing i ask is
do it would they stand to benefit by by cooking this up and making it making conspiracy which is
a crime usually it's usually most conspiracies are crimes um like like would it make sense for
this to have been done and you've heard about enough government programs that some bonkers ideas, especially I was going to say in the sixties and seventies, but Jesus,
even still all sorts of remote viewing like programs and,
and dosing people with huge amounts of elusive.
You say remote viewing is not real?
What? No, no, no.
He doesn't know what remote viewing is.
I'm just saying remote viewing is when um you were
sitting in a room and they give you say an envelope with a photograph of a place and they
tell you to go there and without showing you the photograph by touching the thing you go there
or by by looking at a perhaps you look at a picture of a missing girl and you're like there's a river nearby. I can
hear the water. There's a Coca-Cola
sign.
I was with you.
There are trees. At the start you didn't have
me. I'm like well pictures are definitely real.
Let's see where this is going.
I don't think it's like
it was like a CIA thing that they were
trying to figure
out. I don't think that
they've done so much shit the cia i don't think it's like uh i really like kyle's thought of
does this potential liar have the ability to profit from this lie that's a that's a red flag
the other one that i call upon a lot is how many people need to keep this secret for it to be true, right?
If it's like, man, there's 33,000 people working for the media,
all not telling us the truth.
It's like, you know, that's a lot of people who know the real truth
who aren't pitching it.
That one's not compelling to me.
Like the secret-keeping one, like,
because you don't have to have tens of thousands of people keep a secret.
You just have to have the five mainstream media companies that control 90 plus percent
the same way that like yeah they knew about the epstein stuff for years and it was like they just
didn't report it like so really like if you like like right now woody if you had a pamphlet
let's say just moon landing picking something out of my ass let's say you have a pamphlet that has verifiable evidence cannot be disputed that the whole thing hullabaloo made up
okay what do you do to get it out there it's your mission to spread it
um hopefully i have undeniable proof that i can share. And then I don't know,
social media,
websites,
you're going to get banned.
And you're going to report it.
You're going to send it to CNN and they're not going to run it.
And so like,
like I'm just making the point that like,
it's just the gatekeepers are the media apparatus,
not the individual secret keepers.
I,
I hear what you're saying and it's not insane,
but I still think that if a large amount of people need to keep a secret,
it's a red flag.
Sure, I understand that, but like military operations...
Taylor, you're talking about more of an idea and just sort of a state of being.
Like, yeah, we don't talk about that here because we don't have verified sources.
But also, if you look at it like this, from what I know, a lot of these people,
the reason why they think these secrets could be kept so easily.
You know, Freemasons, for example, there's almost Freemason lords in almost every major city.
OK, so if there's like a Freemason lords like in every city that has 100,000 population, I don't know how accurate that is.
But I know it's basically every city usually has a hundred thousand population i don't know how accurate that is but i know it's basically every city usually has one sure so if they're if they have like a network like that it wouldn't be that hard to keep things hidden at that point if everyone followed the same rules
obviously how likely is it if everyone's going to follow the same rules because humans get curious
humans like to break rules all the time yeah those guys don't have any secrets
no no well those uh what was that thing that alex jones broke into in like 2000
that like owl thing what i don't know about that owl thing they might have some secrets
that's what it was yeah yeah but i was thinking about the widespread secret keeping thing. Wuhan lab leak, right?
It seems like everybody in power wanted this to be a wet market.
But then it comes out that some lab worker's wife was like patient zero.
And people start looking into the DNA to see what's possible, whether it came from infected bats or what have you.
And now, I don't know if truth is out as a quite thing, but certainly the Wuhan lab leak is maybe the predominant theory
on where COVID came from.
People were blowing the whistle on that at the time.
I want reparations.
Reparations.
Financial reparations from the Chinese.
From the Chinese.
Yeah, I was denied my freedom to travel
and to make way as a sovereign Navy vessel.
Kyle wanted to travel so bad.
I had places to go, people to see.
They had me locked down for two years.
I want recompense.
I want restitution.
I want money.
It's hard to suppress a truth, you know, even if you try.
Yeah, truth tends to come out or you like to believe that that it i don't know i mean i i think i think the cia killed kennedy
like like i i think when it's i think the cia keeps secrets i think the cia keeps yeah i i
think the people who that's a little conspiratorial are intelligence agencies next thing you know
there's a thin blue line where the police protect agencies. Next thing you know, there's a thin blue line
where the police protect each other.
Next thing you know, you're going to tell me
that they poisoned St. Louis
on purpose in the 50s with chemicals.
Oh, okay.
Did that happen?
Yes, they absolutely poisoned multiple cities
testing to see what would happen
in mostly low-income and black areas.
None of your family got poisoned.
Were you also damaged
by the Tuskegee Airmen experiments?
No, your people were fine.
I wasn't there.
No, you weren't.
At the Black...
They come out after it's no longer
important, though. It's like, oh, by the way,
in 1947, we poisoned a bunch of people
in St. Louis. It's like, you bastards.
Like, oh, I'm sure you're not doing anything now.
Like, I'm sure it's all above board right now.
I wasn't really alert at the time or maybe alive.
But like what started the Vietnam War?
Like a fake golf.
Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
I bet that was immediately questioned.
Like, I don't know when the golf attack happened.
I'm going to make it up, 1972.
I bet in like 73 and 74, people were questioning it.
Kyle, do you know when it happened?
My best guess is 64, 65.
No, 65.
Oh, well before.
The war ended in 73.
That's my mistake.
But I don't know much about like the dates in vietnam i really
don't no it's overshadowed by world war ii and all the media yeah i like that one i like that one and
i like i like the civil war the civil war is neat um you know what i would do if i was like the king
of of all media in hollywood is i would put a 20-year hiatus and it'd be like for the next 20 years you cannot make
any media about a superhero
or about World War 2
because
everybody you keep going back to those
same wells oh you're going to make another
World War 2 movie again
no you're being lazy at this point
pick another war
how many good World War
I'm sorry Korea War movies are there?
Like none.
The Korean War is like
the most forgotten war ever.
Let's explore a little more
than World War II.
Let's do more.
Well,
World War II is a good one.
I don't want you to totally cancel it.
Think of how good the movies
will be 20 years from now
about World War II
when they've had 20 years
to think of a new angle.
Oh, yeah.
I'll totally be able to remember
those memories.
I can barely remember them now, taylor you're cursing me
what about the uh world war three movies ukraine war i'd love some movies on that i think this
spanish-american war you start with the with the alamo that's the beginning you know all the heroes
dying jim how about more ancient history how about some ancient history wars? Oh. That would be great.
What about the...
They already have a documentary
about this, but the pyramids
in Wisconsin's lakes.
Most people don't know about that. That's cool as well.
The pyramids in Wisconsin Lake?
Yeah.
That's actually really cool. YouTube found it
a while back. What?
It's a...
A YouTuber made it, or it's What? It's a, a YouTuber made it or it's old?
No,
YouTube will found a pyramid in one of the lakes in Wisconsin.
It's really cool.
I mean,
that's plenty on find out.
Yeah.
They,
they find shit under underwater all the time.
I don't know.
How big is the pyramid?
Is it an impressive one or like a,
Oh yeah.
It's impressive as fuck.
Huh?
That is interesting. Wisconsin lakes, Wisconsin pyramid lakes. Is it an impressive one? Oh, yeah. It's impressive as fuck. Huh.
That is interesting.
You can find it on YouTube.
If you type in Wisconsin's lakes, Wisconsin pyramid lakes, it would pop right up.
There's a 45-minute documentary on History Channel.
That's really cool.
Pyramids must be the easiest shape to build for all these cultures to have landed on the pyramid as the big structure.
What if the oldest pyramid is the Great Pyramid in Giza and those other three that are there?
Those are the first ones, the earliest ones,
and they're perfect.
Maybe pyramids are just more durable.
There were tons and tons of towers
that are actually easier to make,
and they're just gone now.
Oh, God, I get the time frame mixed up, tons and tons of towers that are actually easier to make and they're just gone now oh this uh god i
get the like the time frame mixed up but i believe like the sphinx in egypt was there is more distance
between the creation of the sphinx and cleopatra than there is between us and cleopatra yeah and
so i don't know cleopatra the sphinx was already ancient. No, I think that Egyptian stuff,
that's the conspiracy theory, if you can call it that,
that I believe.
I don't think the Egyptians built any of that stuff.
I think they built that mud brick shit.
I think they built that mud brick shit later on.
And the older you go,
the higher the quality and the craftsmanship is
and the statues and stuff.
I think the Sphinx is way, way, way older than the Egyptians.
Yeah.
Or like what we think of as Egyptians,
like those people who were making pyramids.
And like the other thing, I love this,
when people actually think that the Jews were slaves in Egypt
and built pyramids.
That didn't happen.
That's a Charlton Heston movie.
It's entirely made up.
Yeah.
That's a Charlton Heston movie.
That's like angels with goddamn feathery wings.
That's some Hollywood shitwood shit the egyptians were like we need people who are great at manual labor to
enslave ah the jews can we back up to the angel thing it's been mentioned a few times they don't
look like john travolta from michael hell no if you read revelation it describes angels as like.
It's not an angel description of them.
It's like Peter or Paul or whoever writing a perspective of them to just.
I don't think it's an actual description of angels having a thousand eyes and multiple wings and the head of an eagle mixed with a bear mixed with a lion. It's like that was just him saying that it can't possibly be quantified in terms that you can understand like it's it's something indescribable and horrifying none of them say like angels are
scary every time they see an angel people drop and are terrified and are like don't kill me
which is a terrible way to you know like god knows that's gonna be the response
no they're they're super powerful but they're also unbelievably uh yeah
they're they're very or i guess lucifer as an angel was jealous of humans and so that's why he
bailed out and was like what god you're giving preferential treatment to these things that you
made in your own image i'm infinitely better than any of these things and then god was like no
you're not your arrogance is evil and then throws was like, no, you're not. Your arrogance is evil
and then throws them into hell.
There you go. There's the whole Bible.
Also the whole story of it.
Can you become an angel?
No, no. There are different species.
You're a human. You do not become
an angel.
Have you guys ever looked into
the Grand Canyon?
Yes, I have. I stood at the top. So into the Grand Canyon? I haven't been there. I have. I stood at the top.
So at the Grand Canyon, there's an ancient city.
There was like a cave system that people carved out.
And they found a whole bunch of artifacts, the same type of artifacts you would find in Egypt.
You know, all the same stuff you would find in the Grand Canyon.
Huh.
So like the same kind of carvings Hieroglyphs made?
There's a 45-minute documentary about that too from the History Channel.
There's so much about history we don't know.
Like I would 100% buy that there are entire civilizations that we just don't know about.
Like that have been buried
or a tectonic
movement hid them like if we've
been around for hundreds of thousands of years
like there's
gotta be older stuff yeah
I really like that uh that younger those younger
driest theories by Graham Hancock
like the idea that that uh
comet strike flash melted
all that ice and caused a great
deluge and that's why you've got this worldwide great flood myth and when he talks about go
blackie tepe with the with the huge structures that seemingly were built using technology that
shouldn't have been around we should have been hunters and gatherers you know clubbing around
with sticks and pointy rocks but here are these big monolithic structures that would acquire
teamwork and you can't have like a group of you might think well yeah the hunter gatherers get them
together in a team but somebody's got to be growing food for there to be this multiplication
of like effort to food so that some people can just work and become craftsmen and and have
specialized jobs it's a big step up on the tech tree when humanity was like, yeah, farmer John makes enough food for
all of us. We can do whatever
we want. I'm a blacksmith.
You'll be the cow herder. You'll be the
sheep herder. Figuring out agriculture really
boosts everything. You're a pedophile. You can't stay.
Or
you can become a special man
in a coat who has access
to the kids. The pedophile's like, actually,
I saw a bright light in the sky,
and they said it was A-OK.
Really?
How bright was it?
I found golden tablets in central Missouri, and they told me.
Where do you come down on Mormonism, John?
Do you think that it's, do you think that they're real Christians
or too misguided?
I'm not too sure, to be honest.
I never really looked into the religion that well.
You should. It's entertaining.
So here's the Mormon religion.
They're very wonderful people.
But I've never really looked into it myself, so I don't have a good education.
So quickly, here's the deal i would
say they're real christians they just add they just have an extra little addendum that's a little
silly but they're such nice good people a couple hundred years ago that this guy named joseph smith
who was a con man claimed that he found golden tablets in the ground that were written you know
there were new there were new books to the bible and they described Jesus Christ coming to North America,
meeting with the Indians,
and a number of other things.
He never showed the tablets and he would only read them
by putting them in a goddamn magic hat.
And there was also a couple other ways
they found him to be fraudulent.
Like the guy who's transcribing what Joseph Smith,
what is it?
It's Joseph Smith?
Joseph Smith.
It's such a plain name,
it's easy to fucking forget.
He has a man transcribing what he reads.
He's looking in the fucking magic hat.
And God said,
Joe, you're a swell guy.
You should have 50 wives.
You got that? And the guy's over there writing it all down.
Well, the guy goes home and his wife is like,
you did what all night?
That guy's fucking full of shit. Here, I'll prove it.
All that shit you wrote?
Give me that. Go tell him you lost it. All that shit you wrote, give me that.
Go tell him you lost it.
Tell him he'll have to transcribe it again.
He goes back.
Dude's furious.
And he says he'll have to go talk to God about this.
God says because of what happened, that book can never be revealed again.
That's lost unto mankind now because of the deception.
Dude, that's such a good spin.
Isn't that what happened on the South Park episode?
Well, they're telling the truth.
Yeah, yeah, that's the history. Yeah, they get the Mormonism shit in South Park pretty correct
because they're from Utah.
Or no, they're from Colorado.
And like Colorado, Utah, Idaho,
there's a huge Mormon population there.
And so especially Idaho and Utah, if you live there, you know, a shit ton of Mormons.
Those are swell people.
Intuitive.
They are like kind people who seem to have happy families.
They all have like seven kids.
Yeah.
Like they're they're planning to farm.
You would think they'd be out, you know, breeding us, us awful regular folk. They are be out breeding us awful regular folk.
They are out breeding us.
Is it the Celestial Temple they go to when they die?
Because that's also where the wormhole aliens live in Deep Space Nine.
No, it's definitely not the Celestial Temple.
And if it's the same thing, if I can get to meet Captain Sisko by converting,
oh my God, I'll do whatever they want.
If I could go to some sort of Star Trek heaven.
I don't think that Morm...
No, it's Jehovah's Witnesses, I think, that get their own planet.
I think that is correct, yes.
I think, yeah, they get their own whole world.
I think Mormons have a normal idea of heaven.
No, the Mormons have the Cel temple thing where like everybody in our,
our,
our like family group,
the husband,
the wives and the kids are all in our own little group together.
And that's,
that's definitely true.
Like that.
If that's the case,
imagine this,
let's say,
you know,
I have a family,
I have kids.
Okay.
And then my kids have a family and they have kids.
Yeah. So on and so on and so on okay where do i go do my grandkids can you see me then do my son sees me no you're no they'd have to that wouldn't be heaven if you couldn't see your friends and
family you know you're gonna have to ask a mormon i'm sure they know all the answers to all these
questions dude i remember that scaring the shit out of me as a kid when like they taught us at one point they're like when you go to heaven you're just
part of like god's family now and like that scared the shit out of me i'm like i'm not gonna like
i won't recognize like my grandparents and my mom and my dad and my brothers and everything
and like i remember this pastor being like no no. And I was like, what?
Like, that's horrific.
I don't know, five, six.
So they're telling five-year-olds they're going to be separated from their parents.
That's solid.
No, no, no.
My mom told me that.
I got drilled in the head with hell so hard my whole childhood.
I was terrified of hell.
Yeah.
My mom told me that in the car one time.
My dad was like, don't tell him that.
That horse shit.
I was a real deal adult before I found out my dad was just playing along my whole childhood.
It was just like, hey, dad, like ever since you and mom divorced, like you just have not been to church ever.
And he's like, nope.
So you just don't do that.
And he's like, it's such a waste of time like he's just he
he hated it he he just would golf every day yeah my dad clearly did too yeah it's uh it's boring
it's fucking boring and they don't keep it fresh it's a guilt trip so often it's the same
shit over like do you know how often I sat and I heard the Beatitudes?
Matthew 5.
Love is patient.
Love is kind.
It does not boast.
It does not envy.
Not even just that.
5,000 times.
For example, a lot of these churches here locally, they would be gossiping, you know,
and that's quote unquote a sin.
But you'd be talking shit about everyone there behind their back.
Yeah.
What about a snake handling church?
Like, I think I could get on board with that.
If I could go to one...
Here's what turns me off about church.
It's a demonstration of faith.
Let me tell you what I like about church
that I've enjoyed every time I've gone.
I love the singing.
I like when there's dancing.
At a white church?
Yeah.
There's a ton of singing at every church.
I've only seen
terrible singing and awful songs with dodgy lyrics in church a lot of well the dodgy lyrics will be
there yeah a lot of professional a lot of professional singers start a church um a lot
of them do they really good singing it toby keith taylor swift um the guy from uh just moving down
uh that chubby chick from American Idol.
Yes.
I don't know what her name is.
Kelly Clarkson.
Kelly Clarkson.
She got big.
That probably helps her singing voice.
I wonder if she has access to Ozempic.
I don't think she wants it.
Everybody wants it. I don't know what Oz it. Everybody wants it.
I don't know what a Zimpy does.
You know who's not taking it?
Sean Connery's wife.
Have you seen those pictures of Sean Connery?
It's him standing with his...
Sean Connery's dead.
No, not Sean Connery.
The other James Bond.
The fucking...
Daniel Craig.
Dude, they photoshopped Daniel Craig's wife
to make her extra fat and no
no no no it's it's it's a funny one where like you see him standing next to her when she's like
thinner and younger and he's like grimacing and then like he smiles progressively more and more
like the the thicker she gets and she's like here's Brosnan he's yeah here's Brosnan it's a
very funny picture I think also uh Hugh Jackman's wife is uh you know doesn't match him physically
speaking if you want to talk hugh jackman's coming back to be wolverine in the new deadpool movie do
you know about that woody they talked him into that he has resisted that for like 10 years or
ever he resisted not only that woody i don't know if you watch the comics or read the comics or if
you ever watch the animated show in the animated show Wolverine has this wild costume it's yellow
and blue and and the
images I've seen he's in the fucking
costume he's in the yellow costume
with Deadpool I think
that's so he doesn't have to take so much fucking
trend perfect perfect
you don't need to see him all muscular I want to
see him in a costume anyway like like use some
CGI isn't Hugh
Jackman older than me yeah yeah yeah he's been doing that character since i was in high school it's hard to have
a superhero body when you're into your 50s i mean you you know not without some chemical uh uh
intervention i don't think anybody can be a superhero in your 50s without it you got to be
like one of those specimens what's a what's another great conspiracy theory? I want to get John's take on another great one.
Moon landing?
That's almost adjacent to flat Earth, I feel like,
because they're both space-related.
But moon landing.
Kyle, don't fucking sway the results.
John, moon landing.
Do you think that happened?
Do you think it didn't?
Do you not really care either way?
So most of these, for me personally, I don't really care either way so most of these so me personally i don't really care
for conspiracy theories it's just like who gives a fuck if it happened or didn't happen what is
true what's not true like at that end of the day how is it going to affect you yeah oh the ruling
didn't happen or it did happen okay who cares like how is that going to benefit you either way at the
end of the day
like that's the biggest conclusion i have for most of these conspiracy theories
like if it's true it's awesome if it's not true okay cool you know it's vice versa it doesn't
affect me yeah i i totally feel you on the moon landing tier ones where it's like i it does not matter to me i i could learn
one thousand percent it didn't happen and i'd be like oh like oh man they got i'd be like they got
me like that like that that would be about it i wouldn't yeah i don't think like what do you truly
get from knowing if it was fake or if it was real. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
I feel like.
I don't think...
Also, I haven't
looked into the moon one at all. Seems like
we went to the moon.
The videos and all that, but
I could be wrong.
Seems like we went.
It's a lot of people to keep
a secret for,
is it 70 years now?
Something like that?
You know what's funny about that?
Is there does come a time
when it's way easier to keep a secret.
Like, because everybody dies.
Like, 80 years after,
that's prime secret hour.
It's cemented in.
Yeah.
The difficult part is that first 60 years. Who's going to kill at that point? That's true secret hours. It's cemented in. The difficult part is that first 60 years.
Who's going to care at that point?
That's true, actually.
JFK, though.
I want to know what's up with that.
Seems like the CIA
almost admitted
that it was a CIA-related thing.
Let's say
if JFK was killed by the government,
if they told us that right now,
what's really going to happen?
Probably nothing.
Nothing.
I have no power.
I would not ride in the streets.
I'm,
I was not alive during JFK's life.
If it happened,
if they told us the very next day,
it happened,
something probably would happen.
People would be wound up.
But right now,
who gives a fuck?
I don't,
I don't think people would even care.
Like they,
like the CIA has admitted
like, oh yeah, Operation Mockingbird in the
50s and 60s. Yeah, we had the CIA
gave talking points to all the
mainstream media organizations to launder talking
points and beliefs into the American people to
bolster support for wars and foreign
intervention, but we're not
doing that anymore.
It's like, really?
Really? So you did that? and oh but you're not doing
it anymore all right you're young for this but the first iraq war the way they beat those war drums
was next level just condoleezza rice out there with you know hey you don't want the next mushroom
the next 9-11 to be a mushroom cloud over new york city we have to go into iraq it's like they
had nothing to do with 9-11 you just what is into Iraq. It's like, they had nothing to do with 9-11.
You just met. She's like, no, no, no. I didn't say
they had anything to do with 9-11. I would just, you know,
put them in the same sentence, repeatedly.
But Iraq, pretty scary, right?
Right? Saddam's a mad
man. He kills his own people. Meanwhile,
his people are trying to have a civil war. He deserved
that invasion for threatening to kill George Bush.
Did he threaten to kill
George Bush? No, no, not just threaten. They stopped a plot to kill George Bush. Did he threaten to kill George Bush? No, no, not just threaten.
They stopped a plot
to kill George Bush Sr.
that was
from Saddam Hussein.
So just for that, I always felt like
that's why little Bush went in.
He was like, he threatened to kill my dad.
And I'll bring
the entire front of the U.S. military
to your country and have you hanged then.
And so he did.
The fact that we held on for another half decade or whatever
was what never made sense to me.
It's like, dude, we hung Saddam Hussein,
who in my childhood was like a TV bad guy.
It would be like if we hung Kim Jong-un or something,
or if we got Vladimir Putin.
They went and got him
and hung him we did that it was his fucking country way more um a long time yeah oh yeah
he was in it was he was in power for a very long time i really don't know how long maybe since the
late 70s or something i don't know i remember maybe you've seen it uh i i saw it over and on the history channel when he took power and um and and
they're like coming in and grabbing i don't know what you call maybe senators or the equivalent of
that they're grabbing them the ones that aren't with him and everybody's in the room sweating
fucking not knowing who who's next to be grabbed by the fucking security forces they're dragging
people out of the room to be tortured to death and fucking executed and shit yeah he was yeah well but i don't know why we hung around
for all those years afterwards and just poured money down the probably money yeah everything's
money related somehow yeah but why why wasn't why weren't we more upset about it i mean i didn't
care because i wasn't there but it just was like, why are we still there?
Everybody seemingly should have felt that way.
Oh, well, ISIS is there.
That's where we're fighting them.
It's the front line for ISIS.
It's like, they're only there because it's where we are.
They're saying the same thing.
Why are you invading Iraq?
That's where the Americans are.
That's where they are.
This is the front line.
If we leave, then they leave.
We don't give them a front line that we're sitting there
waiting with a fucking rifle.
That was the Taliban we were fighting
all those years, not ISIS.
Not in Iraq, though. That was Afghanistan.
Oh, yeah, Afghanistan.
Yeah.
The Taliban, the absolute
funniest videos out of the Middle east was when the taliban
took back over and then they posted all those videos of them doing like lat pull downs and
like bad form rows and they're all fucking like arab outfits just like yeah just having fun in
the in the the newly conquered uh planet fitness That was hilarious. I loved that.
Just a bunch of guys who are sick and tired
of doing their rock lifts in caves.
They've been trying to fly Black Hawk helicopters.
It's by trial and error, I can only imagine.
They must ask the group of potential pilots,
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Not who's flown the most. who wants to fly the most? Like not who's flown the most,
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Like they get up there and start doing,
I don't know what that thing is.
What do you,
when they're like counter turning the rotor or whatever,
it seems like what they're all doing as soon as they,
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Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
it's like me trying to fly and fly a helicopter and Arma.
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That would be a good,
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Disrespect.
That's not nearly as interesting.
Dr.
Disagree.
I don't doubt.
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That's all he says.
Don't think so.
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man.
I fucking hate Dr.
Disagree.
That other guy was better.
This guy's not happy.
This guy's boring as shit.
Have you guys seen the tweet about Sam Hyde wanting to fight Dr. Disrespect?
Yeah, I did see that.
I don't think the doc is going to agree because he's a much higher.
He's a much more famous guy than Sam.
agree because he's a much higher he's a much more famous guy than sam and also that if he did agree that's got to be a fight that would give sam actual like nerves going into it because dr
disrespect i believe is even taller than sam hyde and i think he was i think he was a collegiate
athlete right he's a basketball player. That's a problem.
Yeah, he's got good cardio.
He's naturally athletic.
He's going to pick up anything pretty well if he played any sport at that high of a level.
So Zach wrote,
Dr. Disrespect offered a million
to fight Sam Hyde in Muay Thai.
Reverse.
Although that sounds reverse.
Yeah, Sam Hyde offered a million dollars.
And I believe Tristan Tate offered to uh train dr disrespect really andrew
tate offered to train him no tristan oh tristan tate okay yeah who they got involved with the
oh elon musk zuckerberg fight right like tate was gonna train musk does that sound right
do i have it i think i think i saw something about that yeah i know that wasn't going to
happen there's no way i'm concerned about
our billionaires but each other do battle i'd love to see it like it would it's it's almost like
the idea of commodus coming down from the stands into the gladiatorial arena and and lowering
himself to and doing battle as a as a gladiator himself, it would be wild to see someone like
that.
I mean, you would
draw, win, or lose, or whatever. You would have more respect
for whoever does that because that's a
crazy thing.
I've said this a lot.
Not comical.
That's what I look for. If Bust went in
there and was terrible and got knocked out,
respect. If he goes in there, shells was terrible and got knocked out, respect.
If he goes in there, shells up, runs, fights in a really cowardly way,
and taps when he's not in danger, that's where he loses me.
Yeah, that's no good.
Yeah, that's no good.
Anderson Silva used to fight in a very weird, shitty way that was super unentertaining.
I remember Dana White threatening to take the belt.
Not just take the belt away to fire.
Yeah.
He said,
he's the,
he's the champion.
He's a very popular guy.
And Dana White was like,
if he puts in another performance like that next time,
he's not going to be working for this company anymore.
Yeah.
He's like,
I don't know how I'm going to make it up to the fans,
but I promise you,
I'm sorry for this fight and I will make it up to you.
I don't know. Who do you guys take in the the sam hyde dr disrespect fight if it did happen dr disrespect
well i gotta stick with sam do you know how much experience because i like it for combat stuff
yeah i don't think he has any like boxing or martial arts experience, but he's taller than Sam. Is he taller? I thought he was the same height.
No, he's
I think a couple inches taller
than Sam.
Isn't he
6'8 or something ridiculous?
I don't know. He's a giant person.
I want to know the training period.
I'll tell you what.
I think if Sam meets Dr. Disrespect
and they don't like each other and they're just bump into each other in an alley my money's on sam if they both get six
months to prepare for the fight it's trickier for me yeah that's fair because he's people who are
natural athletes like that it's okay it goes without saying you're way better and dr disrespect 6'5", and Dr. Disrespect is 6'8". But Sam has a lot more weight on him, though.
Yeah.
I imagine with Sam, though,
when you're the size Sam is,
you're not used to fighting people with equal reach to you.
And so that's probably wild
to go from outreaching everyone to being outreached.
That happened in the UFC.
Jon Jones is the guy.
Kyle probably knows this already.
He fought a guy named Gustafson.
I suck with his name.
Probably Gustafson.
Gustafson.
Yeah, anyway, struggles aside,
he was the first guy with the same height and length,
and John Jones didn't beat him,
even though you'd really expect him to,
based on their records.
He beat him.
The reason he struggled the first fight is because he was up the night before
doing cocaine and partying and drinking up all night.
He did that, Taylor.
So if he did lose, because he was scared of losing to Gustafsson,
he was like, if I lose after a night of binging drugs and alcohol,
then I don't feel bad afterwards. I'll be like, it wasinging drugs and alcohol, then I don't feel bad afterwards.
I'll be like, it was the drugs and alcohol.
I'll come back and get him.
It was like giving himself a get-out-of-jail-free card in case he lost.
He barely ekes out a win, so they do Gustafson 2.
This time Jones doesn't party, so he smokes him like an amateur.
The guy's always just been so much better than ever.
He had a couple fights
last two, three
years ago that were close. But other than
that, he's just a scary guy. How about this?
A little hypothetical.
Eight months of training.
Okay. Sam Hyde
and Dr. Disrespect
versus Jon Jones.
What rules? What are the rules?
What rules do you want?
MMA or boxing?
Boxing, I think it would be
a pretty easy win for the two.
Yeah, for sure.
But MMA is what we should talk about.
What do you think MMA-wise?
Only eight months of training.
The Doc and Sam versus Jon Jones.
Are they training in the US?
Or are they training in Thailand? They have the they're training like thailand they can they have
the dealer's choice anywhere they want to train they can train how would that matter yeah i don't
think that it's important i think it does i think that's a big importance a lot of people in the
u.s the way they train is completely different like if you go to Shaolin Temple, one of those guys who's trained for one year
versus people who have trained 10 years
here in the States,
they could kick their ass.
That's not true.
Well, they're not Shaolin monks.
No, I know.
You don't see Shaolin monks
ever doing anything impressive
in fighting leagues.
Because they don't go to fighting leagues.
Oh, isn't that convenient?
Yeah, it's legend.
It's against my religion to whoop all y'all's asses.
I could beat everyone in the UFC,
but I'm so dangerous, most of my moves
are outlawed. These hands and lethal
weapons, you don't understand.
If me and you were to square off and I kill you,
I could go to jail.
The only reason you won is because
you reached into your chest and pulled out your heart.
Kalima!
Dude, that's where you need to train, is in
the Temple of Doom.
That's the Kali cult.
I think
because Jon Jones,
6'6", right? He's a tall guy.
Shorter, or same height or ish as Sam Hyde, shorter than the Doc.
And the amount of weight that the Doc and Sam could put on him
is like two big guys of weight.
It wouldn't matter.
He'd win.
He would, I think he's capable.
All right, so I just thought about, like, his last fight was against
kind of the other best heavyweight that was available,
this technical, large, strong, fast man.
And John choked him so fast, no one understood what had happened
to the point where the man was tapping out.
I feel like he can do that to either one of our friends before the other one could.
Like if he just goes, yeah, Sam, start hitting me while I put Dr. Disrespect to sleep. Oh, sleep oh those hurt sam wait till i'm done with the doc oh they really hurt all right i'm fucking
done come here who did he just be was it cyril gagne i can't remember yeah john john's a fucking
he sat gone on his ass and fucking choked him out and was, there's that amazing picture. Jones is walking away going, shh,
and over his shoulder, gone is on his ass,
looking confused and afraid.
He's like, ooh.
It's perfectly framed.
If you were to take an entire professional team
in one of the four major sports,
and make them go to a different sport, so let's say you take the four major sports. Well, yeah. And, like, make them go to a different sport.
So, like, let's say you take the Atlanta Braves,
and they have to, like, play against the Dallas Cowboys
in ice hockey or something.
Like, because do you remember this show?
Do you remember that show, Pros vs. Joes?
Yes.
And everyone used to like,
I remember the episode where it was like a meme
where they're like, oh, wow,
this professional race car driver is in the mix
with this NFL player, this NBA player.
I can't wait to make fun of this professional driver.
The professional drivers fucked them up in everything.
He was unbelievably athletic.
It turns out that's way more difficult
than they let on is is being a professional driver
yeah i was surprised by it what sport do you think would translate the best to the other one so do
you think like an nba team would beat a mlb team in football i think the nba is pretty high up there
just as they they tend to be super athletic they're tall and they're
strong very fragile in combats or uh collision sports though i don't know dude it depends on
the player or they're banging each other in a lot i don't know it's not a rough sport compared to
rough sports like hockey nfl the nfl has to be the pinnacle of like athletic achievement in mankind
i don't see any sport on the planet that moves as fast
as the nfl with guys who weigh 300 fucking pounds and all the helmets and armor that go along with
it and just the speed they have no cardio dude they they have short cardio you take them versus
a basketball team and put them in like another cardio heavy sport yeah they're gonna get blown
out i'm with tay. I think that basketball players
could beat football players
at soccer.
Yes, 100%.
Because basketball players have better cardio.
I honestly think football
players would perform... There is not an
NHL team that would get tired
before an NFL team.
There is not an NBA team that would get tired
before an NFL team. There's no way.
Hockey players play for 20 seconds at a time
or 60 seconds at a time.
Yeah, but they can play a lot more. Do you really think
they have that bad of a cardio in the NFL?
No, no, no.
Obviously, their cardio is excellent. They're professional
athletes. It's just compared to other athletes.
Honestly, people shit on
soccer. I can't imagine soccer
players losing in this like
soccer players are so good at always moving yeah i agree with that soccer is absurd it's
just continuous running i played soccer as an adult like i gave it a go and i was like how
is this even possible there's so much of soccer is like jogging and then you see someone kick
the ball back and you're like oh i was playing hockey
at the time but now in beer like in professional hockey these guys are very fast in beer league
hockey you can take three good strides and then coast down the ice to get to the other side that
coasting down the ice isn't a thing in soccer it's exhausting yeah no you can't coast down the field
you just have to run yeah so people shoot on soccer but
i really think that soccer players would outperform most other professional sports if they had to play
it's a lot of competition in a sport that neither one's familiar with like yeah unless it's like
super physical like rugby or something then i like obviously the nfl team's gonna fuck up a
soccer team in rugby yeah unless they're just so much faster
i don't know why that soccer field is so goddamn big they need to shrink that thing so the sport's
actually watchable they do uh my my younger brother does indoor soccer like as a hobby
and basically it's the same thing as soccer but they it's like half the size the fields i saw
i saw street hockey like indoor hockey I should say, played on a surface.
Yeah, roller hockey.
And there was a... No, no, no. Sneakers.
Oh, floor hockey. Yeah.
Cool. Yeah. And then there was a fight.
I was like, this is just a fight now.
This isn't even a hockey fight.
It's just a regular fight.
Yeah, that's frowned upon.
They shouldn't be...
They squared off and everybody treated it like a standard.
In deck hockey, do you think fights are frowned upon?
I think they had each other.
They're totally normal when I play deck hockey.
Dude had his jersey.
They were going around.
It was great.
Well, I mean, I will never not be pro fighting in hockey.
So if it's happening, I will always be pro.
Pro fighting in hockey is my...
Do you guys have like a subject in your mind where you're like,
I could defeat anyone in a debate on this subject it's the most pedantic thing in the world but
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See, that's a good one.
I am confident I could beat anyone in the hockey fighting debate,
but there's no one who wants to have it because it's retarded.
And the only people who think there shouldn't be fighting in the NHL
are people who are like paid by safety organizations to say that.
It'll be someone who made their bones beating the shit out of people their entire career and then be like, I don't think we should be able to fight.
It's like, fuck you.
Of course you should.
It's a pressure release.
I don't think they should be able to fight.
But I think that as a fan, I would rather them fight.
I want to see them fight.
I want it to be part of the game,
but I don't think they should. I think it's ridiculous.
No, it is 100%
necessary.
It's only because they don't enforce the rules with any kind
of teeth when people make hits
that could be career-changing.
You should just be like, oh, you cost him his career?
Guess you lose yours too.
Like, throw him out of the fucking league.
Accidental hits. Accidental hits.
Accidental hits.
Oh, yeah, let's do battle instead.
Come on, everybody.
This is something that Kyle may not know, and Woody would.
You are much safer in a fist fight on ice
than you are getting blindsided by a professional athlete
going 28 miles an hour.
Like, it's not close.
That's why they have it as a pressure release. The thing, I didn't argue against any of that. getting blindsided by a professional athlete going 28 miles an hour. It's not close.
That's why they have it as a pressure release.
I didn't argue against any of that.
That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Well, you were talking about not calling dirty hits intensely enough,
and I'm saying that hits are so fast that often grievous injuries occur not out of maliciousness.
The kind of hits that would normally draw a fight,
those hits need to be punished severely enough
that you don't want to do that anymore.
They are.
So they're punished by the penalty book.
You know, they go to the box.
Not severely enough, though, obviously,
because we're willing to do it.
No, because then what you're trying to avoid
is another player taking a run at your player
because that's the natural thing,
is they will take a run at you,
and it is safer for everyone
to have a fist fight people very rarely in the nhl actually get injured fighting it's much safer to
have it be an understood thing between the teams that they send out a bruiser who fights the guy
who did the the malfeasance and then after that it's an understood thing in hockey culture that
it's settled it's done there's no more fucking with that guy. I've listened to everything you've said
and I've absorbed it and I don't disagree,
but I feel like you didn't
counter Kyle's point, which was
that people wouldn't have to fight
if, say, a shoulder to head
cost you 16 games.
If that happened,
then people
wouldn't have to fight.
The thing with shoulders to the head is
it's just such a fast sport
that when there is a shoulder to the head in a malicious way,
they suspend them.
And that guy's going to have to fight too, more likely than not.
Or they'll just kick him right out.
The thing is that huge hits that blow someone up
often aren't super dirty or intending to hurt someone.
And so the response from that,
from the other team will either be one.
We send out a guy to blow up one of their players,
slew foot him,
fuck up his leg,
ruin his career.
Or we have our bruiser go out and fight the guy that did this.
Nobody's going to get hurt.
They'll lose some teeth at most.
And then the game goes back to a normal pace.
If you don't release that pressure, you get
consistently harder and harder
hits, and people get hurt.
You touched on another problem in the league.
If there's a situation where there is
likely to be a conspiracy where we
will slew foot someone to ruin
their career, then now
I think it's going to be, if one player
says it to another that we should do it,
we've now have a conspiracy to, to cripple a player.
So now we need to move beyond league penalties and start rounding hockey
teams up and throwing them in prison.
Clearly.
I'm not even kidding.
Like,
like,
like,
are you telling me they're going to,
Oh,
we're going to,
yeah.
I heard coach saves going to cripple them.
Well,
good for you,
son.
You're part of the new NHL.
Goddammit. Our team has been terrible since they threw our goalie in jail. Yeah, I heard Coach say he was going to cripple him. Well, good for you, son. You're part of the new NHL initiative.
God damn it, our team's been terrible since they threw our goalie in jail.
Yeah, fucking lock that cocksucker up.
If you're going to cripple somebody in baseball,
if there's been a kerfuffle, there's high tensions,
the ump will come out and he's like, warning to you, warning to you.
First hint of any horse shit, you're out of the game.
Yeah, but tensions don't get high in baseball compared to a physical sport where you're hitting people and fighting and you're up in their face.
Wait a minute.
I don't know if that's true.
They have bench clearing brawls in baseball.
Show me one bench clearing brawl where more than three punches was thrown.
It is a bunch of why I ought to bitching.
A bunch of why I ought to bitching where they pretend
they're going to hold a bat threateningly. Pussies.
Pussies.
I can't win arguments if my position is just
wrong.
Have you seen those crazy NBA
brawls where they chest bump for two seconds and then
the announcers act like it's a thing?
What's not about the fighting in baseball?
It's the lack of talent.
These are professional athletes who can't throw punches.
NBA players have to go into the stands to fuck someone up.
They have to find a 5'11 overweight goober to beat the shit out of.
But when they do, it's a lopsided victory.
In baseball, it's not that you're not afraid of getting in a fight.
It's that they're going to throw at your head with a 90-mile-per-hour fastball.
That's what the warning's about, and that's what the instigations are always around they hit your guy and now you
have to hit their guy and a whole you can't allow that to just keep going back and forth because
then we're all unconscious or you know we killed fucking they should have rafael ramir in baseball
just have real fights those guys are i like it when uncoordinated whenever they throw a punch
it's bad baseball shit happens.
I saw one.
This is a long time ago.
But basically, player A was traded from the other team to this one.
So now he's friends with his ex-teammates.
He likes them.
And they ask him to go out and get revenge on his ex-teammates.
It is a fucking pillow fight.
He's throwing it at the other team at like 36 miles an hour.
It has happened.
And I loved it.
It was a,
I love baseball stories.
I wish,
uh,
what's his name?
John boy was around at the time.
Yeah.
I,
yeah,
I like that one channel.
You told me about Kyle.
Baseball isn't real.
Yeah.
That's where it has,
like it goes through a bunch of like old baseball tail and I'll give a
fuck about baseball,
but it's like just cool old sports lore basically. Yes. They make baseball interesting, which is hard. I don't give a fuck about baseball, but it's just cool old sports lore, basically.
Yes, they make baseball interesting, which is hard.
I watched a
video of Babe Ruth
teaching hitting the other day that I had never
seen before and didn't know existed.
Audio and video is like,
I'm going to tell you, there's a couple schools
of hitting, and he's got this bat, and he's like,
some fellas grab it down here,
all the way at the bottom, and some guy throws the a ball and he knocks the absolute shit out of it and then some folks they
like to choke up on it do these little slap hits and i'm thinking like yeah that's what ty cobb did
and he goes slap and like you could hit it and it just puts on a little hitting clinic and i'm like
why have i never seen babe ruth teaching hitting what's really cool dude i did i saw this uh this baseball graphic that was like in the past
couple days it was like the furthest home runs ever hit and it was like some random guy babe
ruth and all that and some guy commented he's like damn it's wild that all these bombs stopped
happening the second we were able to accurately measure home runs.
It's like, yeah, you do have to be a retard
to think some goober in 1921 hit it 700 feet.
Oh, it's not.
It's 500 foot plus ones.
585 was the record, which is like...
Yeah, Babe Ruth might have a five.
It's a five.
585 was claimed, and I think 590 was like some other guy
but it's like all the things were like
the most recent was 1951
or some shit and there's no way that
Mark McGuire and Barry
Bonds those are just the two that I know
like weren't hitting dingers
at a more intense right I get
Babe Ruth was an all-timer if
you take Mark McGuire
and put him back in Babe Ruth's time,
they're not even letting him play baseball.
They're studying him to try and get ready for war.
That's what's going to happen.
They're going to be like,
in the future,
they take calves off of muscular men
and put them on the elbows of other men
and put the hands back on.
That guy was fucking shredded.
I remember thinking that if I ate enough meat,
I could be as strong as Mark McGuire.
When Mark McGuire was a big deal,
I was into baseball cards.
The difference between his rookie card
and his 70 home run physique
was outrageous.
Barry Bonds was a speedster.
Barry Bonds had 25 stolen bases his first year or two.
He was a fast guy.
He turned into an armored rhinoceros man.
His skull grew so much.
His skull grew.
He got a meteor head.
A meteor head.
He went up there and looked huge i remember 19 i think it
was 90 was it 97 98 when they had the home run race i remember it very well every day watching
the news and look they both hit another one or it's like fuck he hit three today and like it was
it was a crazy year that was really my dad's got the the paper for 72 from
uh from mcguire it was kind of neat i do remember like i was a kid but i remember even at the time
being like i wonder if he is on steroids and then you see a picture of like it's laughable to think
that barry bonds and mark mcguire weren't on voids back in it but i guess people just didn't have the
the eyes for it it wasn't as common the cream like the clear no no no maybe you were rampant because i was young yeah
ever like in my universe everyone knew mcguire was on steroids it was just okay it was you know
what it is it's that i'm from saint louis and so there was a bunch of fucking like we don't know
if he's roided up it's like that guy has dozens of veins visible on his forearm
yeah i'm from atlanta hank aaron had the record okay we knew about the steroids
you guys didn't look at that no
before hank aaron set that record fucking 70 days or something. Oh, was he on the Braves? Yeah.
Oh, okay. That's where the record used
to be. Who has the record now?
Barry Bonds? Barry Bonds.
Do they asterisk Barry Bonds?
72 fucking home runs!
Do they asterisk Barry Bonds and Martin McGuire?
I don't know if they asterisked anyone.
I don't remember them doing it.
They shouldn't.
What do you think, John? Do you think that steroids should be allowed in professional sports?
People already do it.
Yeah.
They're just good at hiding it.
I say let's see the most roided up hormonal monsters fight each other.
That's what we're here for.
Have you seen The Runner?
We're at the end of an empire.
That's what we do, right?
Dude, I saw this.
Don't those dudes that transition
into female usually take hormone therapy or i mean the females but they take the
or vice versa yes like i don't know who's tougher is a guy who's on hormone suppressants tougher
or a girl who's on steroids tough i i kind misgendered both of them, but work with me.
It depends what you went through. Trans men or trans women.
Let's have the fight to the death.
Because if you go through puberty as a man,
you get the man shoulders, the man hands,
the better leverage.
Sure, but then you get on T-suppressants,
you lose your strength and muscle
and ability to hold that to some extent.
You'll be alright.
Or the alternative is a chick,
a newly formed
man on T
who's jacked and grows a beard.
Oh, he's jacked?
He's on T.
Well, I mean, it doesn't grow muscles.
It's not...
Well, let's assume they're trying to grow muscles.
What are your guys' thoughts
on all those females
in the... Trans men They're trying to grow muscles. What are your thoughts on all those females and the
trans
men as a female
and the athletes
and always kicking the female's ass?
Do you think that's fair?
Yeah, so trans women competing against
traditional women?
Obviously, it's not fair.
Of course, it's not fair.
I like the ones you already even on hormone suppressants.
They're just flat out identified as girls.
There's an easy solution.
I've been saying all along,
abolish all women's and men's sports.
We have one league now for every sport.
Dude, but that just abolishes all non-male sports.
That's not fair.
Women should be able to play sports
if they want. May the best person
win.
I guarantee you next year, the Yankees,
half a dozen women on their tailor. Tell me
they won't. They absolutely
won't. You're right.
You know what? I like just the single
fucking woman on the Yankees. There won't be a single woman because they'll be
like, you are terrible at pitching.
What if that was the league rules?
That's how they spice the game up.
Every team must have three women starters.
Oh, you know what?
In the NHL, I would be down for it if they're like,
all right, all goalies have to be women now.
Dude, the scores of NHL games are now 15 to 11.
It's huge scores.
That'd be big. All right, well all right well hang on now just get a big
i don't know anything about women's hockey i know it exists how what's the speed difference on a
slap shot from a man versus a woman in a day it's uh women don't tend to take as many slap shots
because so like zidane ochara could shoot at 113 miles an hour.
Okay, so let's say the average man is doing 105.
Yeah, an average NHLer can shoot it very fast.
There's no way a woman can even approach that.
If a woman could take a slapper that hit mid-80s, I'd be pretty...
Maybe mid-80s?
Usually women play with higher flex sticks
that are more conducive to
wrist shots than slap shots.
And so they don't take as
many slap shots.
Could they is there a would
there be a case for a woman
being more Gretzky like like
like in and out bobbing and
weaving more more more quick
on her feet?
No, it would.
She'd just be too slow.
The the NHL, the male players
would be too fast for her to
get away and they'd close the distance.
And also, there's not really hitting
in women's hockey.
Did you guys see that clip
of the
one chick on the MMA after she kicked that person's
ass? She'd show her tits
to everyone. What do you think
would have happened if it was a dude
showing his dick? You'd go to jail.
Yeah.
And it is different.
I think everyone can agree that tits are a lot more light and there's more levity in
a woman showing her tits than a guy pulling his cock out.
I'm not sure how many states it is, but I think it's the vast majority of states.
It's perfectly legal for women to be topless in public.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm almost positive.
As it should be.
Freedom.
So it's a completely different thing. And a titty is a completely different thing than a dick. for women to be topless in public. I'm almost positive.
It's a completely different thing. A titty is a
completely different thing than a dick.
I've now seen the girl showing her boobs to the crowd
and I approve.
She's an OnlyFans model. That was like some
foxy boxing thing, I think.
Good for her and she won her fight.
Daniela Hemsley.
Shout out, Daniela. Keep fighting, keep she won her fight. Daniela Hemsley. Shout out, Daniela.
Keep fighting, keep winning.
True ass.
Keep flashing, most importantly.
She doesn't really need to fight
as far as I'm concerned. Just keep showing the jugs.
She's been banned
from YouTube boxing. Was she the one
that made out with her opponent?
I saw that the other day. One of the chicks
was going to kiss the other one to make her uncomfortable
and the other chick was like, yeah, let's fucking make
out. Grabbed her. It's great.
What is the
creator class? People keep telling me about it
but I haven't looked into it.
He asked what is
creator class?
Is that like YouTube finals or what do they do?
There's a couple youtube boxing
promotions and that's one of them i forget who owns or runs creator clash but um yeah youtubers
fight each other apparently they really get paid they oh i dubs owns creator clash thanks zach
and uh then they go through with it they put on a fight it's good show oh woody i was talking to
you a little bit about real mma during pkn this week i think women's mixed martial arts is kind of done in the ufc
for a while or at least it has taken this huge step backwards because we did have not too long
ago obviously ronda was the queen and but that she bled a little bit of her pop into amanda
nunez so that amanda nunez carried that flag onward a little bit, and obviously not the same way.
But then you had Rose and you had Shevchenko.
You had these three pretty, good-on-the-mic ladies champions,
and Nunez to a lesser extent, but she's got her own audience.
Now all of them are essentially out of the game.
I haven't seen Shevchenko's training.
I think Rose has a fight coming.
Rose, I don't know about that.
I believe that she said it or that you heard it.
We'll see. Last thing I
heard from Rose was she lost a Jits tournament or
something or a grappling tournament
to a kid. I remember that.
Was it a boy or a girl? It was a girl.
Oh, yikes.
But yeah, I don't know.
I just don't care.
I think they're going to kill the 145-pound weight class because there's no reason.
I think I heard Dana say that, so you're probably right.
I think they should kill 135 too.
Really?
I like the big girls.
I mean, it's just Holly Holm.
It's just Holly Holm.
Is that it?
It used to be the premier class.
She got choked the fuck out last week.
That's where Ronda fought.
Yeah.
What do you guys think about Foggy Fresh? I don to be the premier class. That's where Ronda fought. What do you guys
think about Froggy Fresh?
I don't know who that is.
Who's this?
Froggy Fresh, he's the guy
that was really
he got kicked out of
iDubbbz boxing thing
because he trained with Sam Hyde. Is that right?
Yeah.
You have a hard time to iDubbbz's girlfriend, wife, person.
I don't really know what...
I don't follow the iDubbbz stuff at all.
I don't really know much about him.
I know that apparently his boxing event
lost a bunch of money.
Oh, it did?
Yeah, I think he lost like $200,000
or something like that in the negative.
Oh, yikes.
That's pretty fucking awful.
I thought these things were swimming in cash.
Yeah, he should have spent less time trying to fight Sam Hyde.
Isn't that the one that had wings?
No, no, no.
This is...
That's a different one.
The Keemstar one did the wings.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
The iDubbbz one was the one that...
The only thing I know about the iDubbbz one was was like and it's because i'm a sam hyde fan was like him just being like no you can't he can't
come and you can't associate with him you can't be affiliated with him at all because of uh uh
the sponsors are gonna pull out if you do it's like no that's retarded that's not true you think
the sponsors are gonna pull out of your event because a guy trained for three days
in a way that wasn't even publicized
until you made a big to-do about it?
Really?
You think fucking Blue Apron's going to give a shit?
Like, that sounds fucking ridiculous.
So, yeah, I would imagine he's probably done
with his whole fighting thing now
if they lost a quarter million.
Right?
You would think so.
Maybe. I haven't known many of the fighters for a while like obviously i know jake paul and logan paul at the top and stuff and i knew wings
but a lot of times i'm like i don't know either of these youtubers they're not yeah the proper
level of star i guess proper level of star is more expensive i saw one way that like idubbbz event got hated on
is i think maybe i might be wrong but i believe that the froggy fresh guy was supposed to fight
this other guy named chris ray gun who's also like i guess they're both shorter guys and because the
froggy guy got kicked out idubbbz and their organization had Chris Raygun, who's like 5'4", a shorter guy, fight some dude like 7, 8 inches taller than him and like 50 pounds heavier.
And I saw the clip where this poor dude who agreed to the fight with someone else is getting his shit rocked by someone who he has no business fighting.
It's totally unfair to him to put him in the ring with this guy.
And I saw people shitting on him like, oh, yeah, really?
Like, this is a better look than just letting this guy fight?
Just putting a 5'4 guy out there against a 5'11 guy and like, come on.
And let alone Froggy Fresh.
I think he trained for over six months doing this too.
Sam Hardy, he put a lot of money into training.
I don't know what kind of content he does or anything.
I gotta be honest.
I don't even like watching professionals
box. I've just never
understood the big... It's only
interesting if it's someone you
actually know like wings to me.
Or Harley.
I will watch any of you guys fight.
I watch Harley fight people i know in fucking real
life but the idea of showing up to watch a guy who should be somewhere playing call of duty
get into the ring and do combat with a guy who should be somewhere playing halo or something
that's not my bag you know it's just not my idea so i want to go on motors
because i'm with kyle 100 every nearly every time i watch a boxing fight i'm disappointed
even if it ends in a knockout it just seemed like eight rounds of patty cakes and undamaging
punches that i know are accumulating until there's finally a finish it's boring it's always boring
yet somehow when the next fight rolls along I forget that and they get me hyped.
I've stopped.
Nate Diaz is about to fight the Paul brother.
I'm not watching that shit.
It's going to be fucking stupid.
I don't fucking care.
Nate's going to get smoked.
Wait, the professional fighter is going to... Oh, it's boxing.
Okay, never mind.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, he's retired.
Jake Paul's a pro fighter, too.
He's like...
Take Jake Paul's YouTube success away, just pretend he was
never famous, but this
guy with dynamite in his hands
knocks out the former
170 pound UFC champion
twice, and you're like
oh shit, I guess this guy's a good fighter
right, and he beat
Ben Askren, he beat
did he fight Anderson Silva? Tyron woodley is the is the
one he is tyron woodley knock the fuck out it's not tyrone who is it it's tyron tyron okay um
so woodley twice i think he beat silva right anderson silva yeah yeah dude you'd be impressed
with this guy if he'd never been on youtube. No, I do agree. Jake Paul is pretty impressive.
Like you said, if you took away his YouTube frame
and everything else, he
trained for like a few years
and extremely hard at it.
You can't just
become a fighter out of nowhere
one day. You gotta train for that.
Yeah, I've got to comment on it.
You are cracking me up
with that tiny little mason jar
you're drinking water out of four ounces at a time.
You got a jug the size of a UFC fighter's torso
and you're filling up a three-ounce cup.
Because you're very measured with your water.
Look at me over here, just willy-nilly drinking water like it's free.
That's his year's supply, Taylor.
When you're doing your water fasts for like three days,
personally, if I go like six hours without any liquid,
I notice it intensely because I'm drinking over a gallon a day of water usually.
How long?
You said you've done three days.
Do you do that regularly?
Yeah, so me personally, on a regular day,
I've actually drank a lot more water than I usually do
just because the room I'm in has no windows and no AC, so it's super
hot. That's the only reason
I'm drinking water right now. It's like a sauna.
I'm pulling down sweats. Why not?
You're wearing a suit jacket?
Yeah. But usually
I maybe drink
one cup of water a day.
Why is the room so hot?
Why is the room so hot?
This is my garage.
You're in your garage? Yeah yeah that begs the question why are you not inside yeah uh so the reason why i'm not inside the reason why i'm not inside
is these walls are a lot more soundproof than every the room okay so i would bother because there's lots of kids
outside my house but there's like a park and there's like a busy street so i'd rather not
people hear someone stealing someone's shit or like hearing a kid scream in the background
so if you were inside you'd hear the outside more than your garage probably yeah okay huh so what i would
have expected who who was it that i guess gave you the idea that like to go on the water cleanses
oh no i just do it sometimes like i don't do it on purpose it's just like i forget to drink water
my theory is that because he gets his water fucking in the wilderness from
a spring he rations it it's very difficult is that you wouldn't just drink it willy-nilly either
yeah if i had to go to pick it yeah i mean there was there was that time on Fish Tank, I recall, where you had not drank anything but coffee for like four straight days.
And you were like dry heaving, trying to fall asleep because you were so dehydrated that I think Sam, I think Jet had to come up and be like, please drink some water.
John, is that what happened?
drink some water. John,
is that what happened?
Basically, because I'm not going to lie, I didn't like the
bottled water crap they had or
the tap water.
The bottled water
and the tap water are below your standards.
I figure at least with coffee, it
steams and then
it gets filtered through coffee filters.
I figure that's a little bit better.
Yeah, so you don't even like the bottled water. Uh-uh. gets filtered through coffee filters. I figured that's a little bit better. Yeah.
So you don't even like the bottled water.
Uh-uh.
Because it's in plastic?
Because of the plastic, which lowers your tea.
Yeah. And usually, if I drink bottled water,
it makes my mouth super dry.
So the first time I went
on drinking only spring water for a year,
and I went back,
I was gone for like a week
without my screen water so I drank some
bottled water from the store that shit
tastes so fucking nasty
when I drink bottled water
when I drink bottled water it makes my mouth super
wet me too
are you a water brand
snob like are you like
Dasani no but like Evian you'll drink or that shit I Are you like, oh, Dasani?
No.
But Evian you'll drink?
I bet you drink the shit in the glass bottles.
Voss?
Right?
Why would I buy that if I could just use that money in gas to go collect spring water?
Smart.
That's true. like i do where are you collecting the the spring
water is it really just a spigot like in the ground that you're pumping no it comes straight
out of the ground like there's no spigot it comes out of a hole out of the ground oh okay so like
you're just holding the jug right out... How far away is this from you that
you have to go? It's about 10-15 minutes drive
and then from the park lot
the spot I go is Terminal Falls
and then from the park lot it's like
a five minute hike.
They actually built
a fence to prevent me
from collecting my spring water, which I've been doing
it for so long. People have been
complaining, I guess.
So now I have to go under the fence. What have they...
So now you have to break in to get the spring water because you got some...
Well, I'm not breaking in.
It's public property.
They just made the fence to make it look nicer.
They cut down a whole bunch of trees to try to prevent me from going where I go.
But...
It's not going to work.
It's public property.
What are they going to do?
Yeah.
So a 15-minute drive and a five-minute hike, get the water.
How often are you going back?
Like every day, every other day?
About once a week.
I fill my spring water a lot.
Actually, so usually I bring like 10 gallons usually to my father
because my father really likes the spring water.
He drinks a lot more water than I do.
It's actually my mother's birthday today, so happy birthday, Mom.
Shout out to your mom.
Yeah, shout out to my mom.
Top day.
Shout out to John's mom.
Happy birthday.
So I usually collect multiple containers for different people.
There's some people that's not physically able to go out and do that every day.
So I usually collect it for them, and they really appreciate it.
You collect water for cripples?
Yeah.
This is what actual good people do.
These collect water for cripples.
There's no way this morning this morning i showed uh one
of my colleagues well i go to collect spring water and she was able to collect some she was
pretty psyched about it that's that one oh it's killing me the the pinky up cup
i can't remember where we were hiking,
but we were up on some mountain and the water floats straight out of the rock
at like chest level.
That's what Top J is talking about.
That's what he collects from.
Oh, I thought it was maybe a spring
like bubbling out of the ground.
I've seen that too.
Like on my dad's property,
there's a spring that just water actually
comes straight out of the ground.
Now there's a creek.
The creek goes down there, joins the ground now there's a creek the creek goes
down there joins the other creek and that's the only and i'm sure that water is pure as fuck
because it's just like bubbling out of the sand you know yeah but i drank that water out that
poured out of the mountain and that was really like it was even cold it was great oh yeah
when you can do that and like actually drink from a stream or like that because i've done that too
like that shit that's like coming out i did it in colorado where it's like a clean stream coming
out of the rock it genuinely is like better water it's like this is like and maybe it's like part
of like being out in nature and like feeling it's cool where it's like oh i'm just like grabbing
water from a spring it's so refreshing and you're also being active and it's hot so of course it's
that's got to be part of it.
I got some $3 a can water downstairs and it probably would
taste better if you did a blind
taste test.
It probably doesn't have the minerals.
Lots of times they add the minerals to the water
but the minerals that they add,
your body cannot absorb it.
It's like natural screen water.
The minerals you can't absorb.
What's that pretentious-ass water?
Perrier? San Pellegrino?
Nah, the new shit in cans.
Bubbling water.
La Croix?
Liquid death?
Liquid death, yeah. Do they add it to that, or do they get it
from some sort of fucking fancy aquifer?
I don't know where that water's coming from,
but that's some tasty water.
I've got my mini fridge downstairs
stacked up. Perrier
and San Pellegrino, that sparkling
mineral water, that shit's good. Oh, not sparkling.
I'm not going to lie. I do like
liquid death. Sometimes
I do drink that every once in a while.
I saw someone say that sparkling
water tastes like static.
See,
carbonation is great.
If you ever drink it accidentally?
I'll spit it out in your fancy face.
You serve me bubbly
without my permission.
Have you ever been to a nice Italian place
where they bring you that big glass
jug of the sparkling water?
I ask for flat water in every
scenario. Yes, I want
flat every scenario. I never want
sparkling ever, ever, never,
ever. It's so stupid
and awful. Every now and then
a fast food restaurant will fuck up
their mix. They're like out of the syrup that makes
Diet Coke,
Diet Coke and not club soda that's brown
and you'll get that hit of just fucking
club soda and it's disgusting. Any movie
when someone orders a club soda and it's disgusting any movie when
someone orders a club soda i'd rather get i'd rather you spit in my mouth i'd rather you spit
in my mouth and serve me a club soda that i have to finish kyle is right about everything he's
completely on target with this you're crazy you're both crazy like sparkling water is delicious
especially if it's like a little lemon flavor a refined palate you have i don't think it's like a little lemon flavor. It's a refined palate you have. I don't think it's because I'm a fancy boy.
I think it's just the carbonation is great.
But I kind of posed it that way
and made you defend that point.
Now you're framing it that I'm a fancy pants.
He's an out of touch Bessorian.
You've lost the plot.
Now I'm defending being a fancy pants.
I don't know.
You're not a,
you're not really a common man.
You've got these highfalutin ideas up there in Missouri,
Missouri up there in the fanciest state.
I read up about your fancy state this,
this weekend.
I learned all good things.
Unless it's obviously Anheuser Anheuser Bush,
obviously right there in town. That's,
that's where they,
they do their business. This, that's not good for us, this whole Bud Light thing.
Well, see, the thing is that it seems like the lobbying
that they've been doing since, I don't know,
what is it, the 1800s?
Yeah.
Y'all have the weakest alcohol laws in the world, maybe?
We do, yeah.
Even in Korea, they're like,
oh, I don't know about that that one you guys
you can have an open container as a passenger in a moving vehicle you know insane that is to me
dude if you have a if you have a bottle of wine that you went on a picnic and had and it's been
hot as fuck in the back seat of your car for six months and they pull you over in georgia you are going to fucking jail
oh dude no road sodas if you're a passenger 100 legal in missouri if you're sitting in the
passenger seat you can just drink i don't really know anybody who does that but like you can if
you're just riding around with someone your open container laws apparently there just aren't any
you can just drink openly anywhere in public, essentially.
Yeah, down here, they...
We're not strict laws about that.
No.
They only...
We have drive-thru, liquor, and firework stores.
I've seen those.
They're glorious.
Kentucky has them as well.
I think they had liquor, fireworks, and guns at one of them.
Yeah, they have ammo there, too.
It's like, bro, let's park if we're getting a firearm.
Like, we've got time.
Dude, Missouri is the land of freedom.
We have the best gun laws.
We have the best, like, freest weed laws.
We're not like those fucking pussies in Illinois
that legalized weed in a way that's, like, not even good.
Yeah, and we even have, like, good weed.
Because Anheuser, you would think, would fight it to the point
where it would just never make it through the legislature. Apparently they did.
Wild that they couldn't keep it down.
Yeah, because they're a huge
employer here, and I imagine they're going to
be doing a lot of layoffs before too long.
Do they have legal
mushrooms, though, too?
No.
No, I don't think we have. I think
is it Oregon, maybe, that has all
the drugs legal? But I don't know anywhere else that does. They just passed that like a year ago. I think, is it Oregon? Maybe there's all the drugs legal, but I don't know.
Yeah.
They just passed that like a year ago.
I think,
well,
people could do meth and cocaine.
It's like now downtown.
If you go downtown and Ben,
you'd be seeing these dudes outside these restaurants.
It's fucking snowing cocaine.
You'd be like,
what the fuck?
Oh,
do you live in Oregon?
Yeah.
Bent in central.
Okay.
But cocaine is not legal, right?
Yeah.
Well, it is to X amount.
Well, like, this is what would happen.
If you get a little bit over, they fine you $80 or something like that.
Huh.
That's pretty nice.
Have you got yourself a little miniature beaker, it appears.
What?
What's weird about this?
It's like a Stein for ants.
Whoa, slow down, Woodyody that's two days of
water you're looking at right there look at this guzzling woody selfish woody a water hoarder
i got this water from west virginia it's a big effort i'm not gonna guzzle it
motorcycle with a office tank.
Have you seen people in Oregon who are on Trank?
People don't know Trank is a new drug people are doing.
They're combining fentanyl with animal tranquilizers.
What the fuck?
And so what you'll see, the way you'll know that someone is on Trank,
apparently, according to the internet videos that I've seen,
they're standing flat-footed
but they are bent at the waist all the way down that's like hanging that's here that's everyone
in portland i'm telling you i've seen what kyle saw and and i also have seen that being a
tranquilizer fentanyl combo yeah um and the people stand weird they're just he says bent at the waist but i i see
it as more like curled in the spine like you know if you were to touch your toes but you're bad at
it exactly yeah that's heroin those people are on heroin yeah that's just heroin addicts in
portland are you denying either way it could be that too yes they were standing though, not sitting.
Look at these two religious folks praying.
Get up off your feet, you trank lazies. Tie your shoes.
Yeah, heroin is a huge downer.
Animal tranquilizers usually do put you down.
Look at that. Didn't even put do put you down. Look at that.
Didn't even put the syringe down.
Yeah, those pictures
are closer to what I saw before.
That's such a horrible drawing.
Don't fuck with heroin, Jesus.
Right, but bent over with two hands down.
I saw sidewalks
full of them, like a dozen people
like that, and I mean
hanging like they're puppets and
and completely bent over their hair like there's there's i saw a lot of crazy people and it was
philly it was philly i think where i where i saw it every time i see some post-apocalyptic shit
it's philly philly's awesome i agree i see portland portland is just as bad. I'm sure. The only thing I've ever – the worst I've ever seen in real life was walking back to our hotel from the –
I don't know what they call it, the pier or the wharf in Seattle.
I don't know where they call it.
But I saw so many hobos under this covered area.
And it was like in the movies when you uncover the vampire's lair and they're all
kind of piled up on top of each other and they recoil from the light and they all move so rapidly
that you can't tell what part of each one is part of the other yeah it's like we were like an
amorphous entity it was the honestly it was the exact night where of the wings 1v1 because me and
white boy were and a bunch of other people
walking back from eating crab
and I remember that car's
lights illuminating this
big coven of them.
And just be like,
that's where they are.
Can you show that, Zach, the video that I linked?
Is this people leaning?
Yeah, it's the pose that i was trying to describe
yeah this is what i was talking about i wanted to show people exactly what it looked like but
i was afraid of looking fat so i hunted down the video instead it's oh dude i i wouldn't do that
position either like yeah this is called nodding out on heroin. This is fucking sick. In the video's description, it says exactly what I said,
and that they are on Trank.
Yes, and that is a way to get clicks.
It's heroin, because you can go to any other city
that doesn't have a story about Trank, and people do this.
It's nodding out.
Yeah.
Okay.
Heroin and fentanyl are often oh yeah similar
thing so it could be yeah it's just i when i hear stuff like that i always assume it's like a bath
salts thing where it's like are we going to talk about fentanyl again or are we going to get better
ratings well what's this thing like yeah i'm with you on the the bath salts popped into my head too
you don't know the thing people always need to remember about bath salts,
that man who ate the other man's face in Florida,
his blood is clean.
Sober as a bird.
He ate that man's face sober.
Which is the hardest time to eat someone.
The hardest.
If I'm going to eat someone, I want to be fucked up.
I want to be really.
I want to wake up in the morning and be like,
why do I feel so full and be like oh i need
a beer to wash that face down i need a nose if i'm gonna swallow some man i need a beer yes
i would hate to eat taylor's face yeah i wouldn't want to eat my face
that beard out of my is it like a who's that guy is it. Is it like a very coarse beard?
It's a very coarse beard.
What's that guy from... You know what I'm
talking about.
I know exactly from...
Do you want the character's name or the actor's name?
He talks like that.
He has his entire face
eaten.
He's the pedophile.
I would say Jake Paul wins.
He's on a better diet.
He's not limited to Romanian prison macros.
He doesn't have a speech impediment.
He's not pushing 40 years old.
How old is Andrew Tate?
40?
I thought we were talking about Diaz and Paul.
I think he's saying Nate.
Oh, Diaz.
Nate Diaz is Paul. I think he's saying Nate. Oh, Diaz. Yeah, Nate Diaz is 38.
Wow.
He got older when I wasn't looking.
Yeah, man.
I saw a clip of the...
I don't know if it was Nate or Nick Diaz.
They look so similar.
But it was on the street of Brazil or wherever the fuck they're from.
And it was this dude who clearly was just trying to like
fight and antagonize him i imagine that happens to them all the time this dude was like throwing
real punches at him like if he hadn't moved he would have been nick diaz or nate diaz would have
been hit and you see like the diaz brother like back up and that like very responsible like i'm
a weapon style and he he kicks he leg kicks the guy in a way that like i would think
as a viewer like whatever and the guy immediately immediately oh if that if 50 and immediately
starts limping and nate diaz even like retreated like turned around and like kind of jogged it up
away to make it clear on camera like i'm not the not the guy here. Like I'm trying. And like,
Oh,
that's his body.
It's a black man,
isn't it?
Red shorts.
Yes,
it is a black guy.
They're friends,
but,
but,
but to,
to completely make your point stick and stay the way it was.
I saw him at Mardi Gras,
choke a random dude the fuck out and drop him in the street.
Like he was trying to attack.
He attained him like Woody did white boy,
not off the ground. Cause he's, you know, he didn't teamed him like Woody did White Boy, not off the ground, because he
didn't want to kill him. It's crazy.
It's irresponsible.
Woody.
I could do it again.
I'd watch again.
Hands off.
Welcome to White Boy.
It's Evan Street.
Today, we are doing the 30 minute nuke
and everyone be like wow that's so brave alex
give him lots of subs because he's fucking retarded now
if you had retarded white boy that would have been shitty that would have been shitty. That would have sucked. No more dolphin dives for him.
Like that one.
So this guy was not a friend of his.
This is him choking this fucker out.
Yeah, he dropped him in the street.
Left him like that.
And this is a real guy who was trying to fuck with him,
not a friend, obviously?
Yes, this is a random dude on the street.
I thought it was Mardi Gras,
but it's that kind of environment.
It's like bars on both sides of the street kind of thing.
How dumb do you have to be to
tussle with a professional fighter?
I'm not sure
he knew who he was
at all.
I don't want to fight anyone in public.
I mean, you don't want
to fight anyone at all, really.
I think I would run if I
could most of the time. Taylor's like,
how dumb do you have to be to tussle with a professional fighter?
And I'm like, yeah, that broken hand took weeks to heal through surgeries.
It's a mistake.
I should have known.
And you did that to yourself, right?
Oh, no, he did a thing to it.
That's right.
I remember now.
Yeah, he did a – it was a move that typically is just a pain move, i didn't tap they call it the hand crippler what he should have tapped or something
i don't know i should have tapped that's very shitty to do a pain move to someone who's like
way lower than you at that level like it's that's that's genuinely like a piss poor etiquette it
shows lack of character like we've used the example before if i if
i'm literally teaching kyle how to ice skate and i fucking check him into the boards i'm a prick
i'm a douchebag i just destroyed trust i have with him and if anything kyle should be out there
thinking this is kind of not my thing but it's making like i'm learning something at least like
we're having a little bit of fun can you imagine that betrayal to go hey here you are trying something with me that i know you're way better at and you
stab me in the back like no that's very i didn't see it through that lens but i could see how you
would i i just he should see it through that lens you gotta keep in mind this is danny right or
somebody was it the asian kid this is joe broke the hand. His brother is the one that elbowed me in the head, which I didn't like.
And then the Asian kid kicked your legs real good.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm glad I never asked to go to fight camp up there at Joe's house.
They would have beat me to death.
Jesus Christ.
Dude, that's like going that hard on someone who's trying to learn is pathetic.
The Asian guy, his name's andy
korean raging korean or something maybe was his fighting name but uh he was the only one that i
well him and danny i thought went too hard on me uh i was just out of my league and yeah could do
anything they wanted to me yeah leg kicks in particular i mean i'm glad he's not gay right you'd be and i'd be sodomized
nothing i could do yeah you couldn't stop him you couldn't stop him and some people go bite him
you really want to piss him off yeah right he was hard before now he's furious
he was a little loving at first and then i bit first we were talking a bit about the the oregon drug
stuff i wanted to know john i think you're like very anti-drug but have you messed around with any
weed mushrooms if you're somewhere where it's legal or just no interest oh so i have tried weed in the past um i don't
do it personally because i basically die so for example i tried a gummy one time like 10 milligrams
i ended up throwing up for like 10 hours straight um jesus christ yeah, so I stay away from it.
I think I'm allergic to some of the cannabinoids or something like that.
So me personally, I can't do it or I will get sick usually.
Yeah, some people just don't drive or they get stressed out.
The first time I ever smoked, I got violently ill and swore it off for years.
Look at me now. Just really enjoying it.
Look at him now. High as a kite.
All the time.
All the time.
What about you guys? What's your view on that?
I smoke weed,
but I am
pretty scared
of hard drugs. I have no desire to fuck with anything harder than...
What's the hardest drug that you want to try if it was legal?
That you would definitely be like, yeah, all right, line me up one of those.
Legality isn't really...
If cocaine was legal, I don't want to do cocaine.
I don't want to do MD&MA ever again.
I don't want to...
After we had that guest two weeks on ago, I have no desire to do LSD or mushrooms.
Dude, we abused it for years.
He's crazy.
So this is what I would say, too.
So magic mushrooms, they can actually be extremely good for you.
So, for example, it makes new narrow pathways, okay?
And a lot of people, someone I personally know, so he's like 60 plus years old and his wife is 60 plus years old too, okay?
And she had dementia and she had Parkinson's where you shake a lot.
And he did a microdose on magic mushrooms.
And so she wasn't able to do anything.
She wasn't able to eat. She wasn't able to get
dressed or even have a talk really. And after a few months of microdosing her magic mushrooms,
she was able to talk again. She was able to cook, dress herself and go to the bathroom by herself,
all kinds of things. And I think a big part of that reason why is because usually as people
get older, neural pathways gets shut down, closed off, and magic mushrooms,
they make new neural pathways, which can help out a lot.
So I think if you use it responsibly, it can be extremely good for you.
Obviously, if someone's using acid or LSD or magic mushrooms
in high doses on a regular basis, it's probably not that beneficial
for you at that point. It probably sounds like
an addiction. You're going to break your brain.
Yeah.
I think if you use it responsibly, it can
be helpful for a lot of people.
I know
people who have gotten off of
SSRIs because they
switched to microdosing mushrooms,
which is like,
there is no way that's not way better for you
than fucking ssris do you remember the guest wouldn't admit the selective serotonin reuptake
inhibitor it's stuff like prozac well butrin oh we were asking the guest how often he did lsd and
he was he kept talking around the question he's like well you know as much as much as you need you know you gotta
therapeutically dose your how much do you do how often and what he wanted like every day for the
last 30 years or whatever is what he wants to say or what he can't say the reason like that's why
he's fucking weird like that i i feel like he's giving LSD a bad name because I had such a wonderful experience.
We had some guy
who killed his family on a few weeks ago
and he fell
asleep.
Jesus Christ.
After we got off,
I was talking to my girlfriend.
I'll tell it this way, that way you'll learn who the guest
is too. She said, who was
guest tonight? I was like, it was this guy who fell asleep at the wheel and had a car accident and his
wife and unborn child were killed.
And she goes, oh, so he killed his family.
And I went, oh shit.
I didn't even think about it like that until you just phrased it that way.
I didn't think about it like that until you texted me later that night that I was like,
oh, that's a, that's a horrible way to's oh it's it's one of the sad oh even that it was the 364th day of their um of their
relationship or their marriage i can't remember which their marriage it was their and she died
on their anniversary pregnant with their child yeah so then the guy um just did lsd and and mushrooms and other drugs to try to deal with
the guilt and everything else from that but he's he was wacky he had he had hurt his brain
clearly yeah if you do too many of those psychedelics you really do fuck yourself i i know
the i mentioned him on the show the fire poi guy that I used to know back in the day. That dude has really messed with himself through enormous doses of mushrooms and LSD.
That shit is true.
That like if you do a fuck ton of that stuff for a long time, you literally enter your own world where you are incapable of articulating your inner thoughts in a way that's cohesive to anyone but yourself.
Yeah, that doesn't like and you're just like you're just like relaying subjective experiences
in your brain in a way that like and all of it comes down to like well you haven't experienced
it so you won't get it it's like well but if you're an expert in this you should be able to
articulate it in a way that i can garner what you're saying like as someone who hasn't experienced
it describing marijuana and opiates and things like that, highs like that right afterwards, I always feel like, or even alcohol, after the high goes away, I'm like, ooh, I want to do that again.
I want to make it that strong again.
Let's see how much it takes.
And that's a bad thing.
But with LSD, the next day I was thinking, oh, man, that was wonderful.
They say it takes a full month to get my brain chemistry right so that i'll have the
same wonderful experience again i don't want any diminishing returns from this and i was fully
happy to have to wait however long it took at least a month like i didn't feel like i could
be addicted do you build the tolerance to ketamine something interesting like so they
call you susceptible to new ideas right like you're reprogramming your head and
you like it's yeah depression or whatever it is your mission is and they call it neuroplasticity
right which basically is just an open to new ideas and you take it every week on a schedule
and the idea is that you know you just spend the next five weeks or so open to new ideas and it's
supposed to be somewhat lasting and and you're
impressionable so just reminded me of that when kyle said it takes a month to fully reset like
oh okay yeah on ketamine they use that to their advantage yeah makes sense yeah i i loved lsd so
i just i hated that he he you know he was a kook and he was he was kind of the lsd guy and that was that was so wacky that whole thing
anyway that was that was so fucking funny when you just started fighting with that guy
and then woody came back and like didn't know what he came back to and was like
oh anyway how about how what what kind of monkeys did you see in costa rica
and then he'd be and then woody would like dude that was so funny like i remember woody and i
so many times tried to like say something to like come to the table with him where he would be like
like what do you be like you you know, but these internal thoughts,
they're causing me stress and this and that.
And he'd be like,
it's not real.
That's not real.
And it's like,
yeah,
but it's real to Woody.
And so it's manifesting in his brain and impacting his behavior.
So what's more real than that?
It's not real.
And it's okay.
And it's like,
what are we talking about?
What are we talking about?
Are you calling me a liar?
I feel like you're calling me a liar right now.
I feel like you're laughing at me.
Kyle, you're just fucking smug, you prick.
I feel like there's something to accepting what's around you
and being okay with it and at peace.
He took that to such an extreme.
It was like nothing was ever worth working on
just have peace with what is yeah and taylor's like what if you're 200 pounds overweight
who's to say what's good and bad just be okay with what you are and it's like but there's
self-improvement's a real thing you can improve your your physical health your financial health
your like emotional health or like there are things you can work on and get better
and he
was just okay with accepting whatever you had do you remember the part where like he literally in
one of his monologues was like so maybe you start drinking all the time it's okay you'll get through
it maybe you start doing cocaine all the time you'll get through it and i want to be like
or you die or you die because you overdose on fucking
fentanyl because you thought it was cocaine and it wasn't and you leave behind your family and
your friends in a very painful upsetting thing because you did fentanyl on accident like what
like it's okay what are you crazy yeah that guy was a kook and i couldn't help but think that we needed to say that he was a kook
lest any of our impressionable wonderful fandom be drawn to the dark side by him and end up in
costa rica getting god knows what done to you our fans saw right did you look at the do you look at the comments on that episode our fans saw through it yes yes they were like this dude will not
fucking answer how much lsd he takes or like or shit like great how on earth how on earth do you
go to costa rica when your wife is threatening to kill your children?
Thank God someone mentioned that.
That's absurd.
I don't read anything.
It's good to see that everybody was catching on.
Because when I hear craziness, I'm like, you know, I know that everyone, when they take information in, it doesn't get processed the same way. And so I could imagine some impressionable person
nodding along sagely if they're only listening to the audio
and they're not seeing me staring daggers into this man's brain,
looking for the scars on the side of his head
before he banged his skull off the asphalt when he killed his family.
Like, that guy had had a severe brain trauma, I guarantee it,
and he had abused the strongest
psychedelic drugs available to mankind for at least a decade right and and and then you know
i'll let all that go until you insult me i was i could have been a lot meaner i was having some
george costanza the joke star called moments like later on that night, cooking fajitas or some shit.
Dude, I did, too.
But like, then I would think I'm like, oh, that's such a fucking sad story.
I'm not going to make so sad.
Yeah.
I mean, he did it, dude.
It's still a terrible story.
We would never do that.
If we had our wife or kid or any loved one in the car fall asleep at the wheel,
we pull over.
It's so irresponsible.
You're telling me what a sleepiness came over me he was probably on something when he fucking wrecked like based
on what i know about him that's probably what fucking happened i wonder if they checked his
blood alcohol content where they checked his blood for drugs who knows what he was on when he fell
asleep at the wheel how do you follow i've drowsy driven by myself i'll admit it but i don't do it
anymore i pull the fuck over or i get out and get coffee by myself i'll admit it but i don't do it anymore i pull
the fuck over or i get out and get coffee or throw some water in my face i wait to fuck up
i don't and yeah he did that with his family in the car you wouldn't do that and you wouldn't
go to costa rica afterward you couldn't drag me to costa rica with that man he's gonna take you
off in the wilderness and some weird shit's gonna go down because he's gonna hear all the stuff i
said about him the early part of that episode
where like he was
I like tried to establish he was an expert
in anything and I was like
so you're not just taking
novices to Costa Rica
and giving them 7 grams of
mushrooms are you and he's like
no that's exactly what I'm doing
and it's like oh
okay
that's kind of sketchy you think that's exactly what I'm doing. And it's like, oh, okay.
That's kind of sketchy.
You think that's sketchy, John?
Put it so well.
Let me tell you the best part of it and fast forward.
So one of his patients, this is a married man with two or three children.
His wife says, I have a gun.
It's hidden in the house because I'm thinking about killing you and out on all of our children that's what i'm thinking about honey she says that to her husband her husband goes to our
guest and says yes i better go with you to costa rica for a week and do seven or eight grams of uh uh mushrooms and he does yeah what the fuck
yeah and he i remember him but it worked as like and in the end the kids didn't get killed
and it's like that has nothing to do with your trip to cost Rica. Yeah. Nothing. Not even tangentially related.
The wife
was bluffing.
I remember
when we came back around to that story and I kept being like
I kept basically just laying
it out like we just did. Yeah, you're a smug ass.
Being exasperated by it.
And him accusing me
of calling him a liar and
making the story up. And what I should have said is, sir, why would anyone make that story up about themselves?
Do you realize what a loon you look like if everything you just said is true?
That's what I should have said.
But it didn't come to me at the time.
What I said was like, no, I believe you.
Although this is the third time you've acted like I'm calling you a liar.
So now I'm starting to not believe you a little bit like you're fucking crying bust out protest too much
i think i mean you have to believe that story because it's so not helpful in proving any point
he made that like if he were to if he was going to make up a story he would make up one that makes
any sense at all.
What do you know? If that is your best story,
how helpful it is.
I'm going the other way. I think he's cool.
Yeah?
You and him should do a little...
You don't like mushrooms.
What if Woody and that guy had
their own little 30-minute
little once-a-month
podcast where they checked
in with each other and what he told his ketamine stories and that guy told his recent criminal
adventures it is just it's two people entirely talking past each other the entire time there's
no conversation strangers in the night just dude ships in the night just. I had a hard time getting him to answer anything.
Like, I was curious.
All right.
For all his faults, he's a subject matter expert on these psychedelics, or at least, you know, from a user perspective, not a doctor perspective.
And I wanted to hear, like, what's your approach?
What's your setting?
What do you do?
When you guide novices through this, are you on drugs or are you the sober person there sort of like
just coaching everyone i couldn't get answers or really questions out during that he dominated the
airwaves he was in yeah his brain was ruined his brain was ruined because of the drugs look i love
drugs but but but enough is enough at some point goddamn dude like you're ruined you can't carry
on a conversation anymore you're i think i i wonder what i don't all right sorry he was on drugs during the show so we don't know
what sober him is like maybe it's coherent he was uh hold up didn't you guys said he's been on it
for 30 plus years or is that a different guy we don't really know he wouldn't tell us exactly how
if he was off of drugs he might be even
more crazy because he's dependent on it yeah i think zach's correct too it's what i've been
thinking as well that he hasn't been sober since his wife died uh i remember him saying he did dmt
well i mean that's just our presumption i think but right that's crazy it's like that's that'd
be a long time to go. It seems likely.
He seems to have a never-ending supply of hallucinogens.
Maybe.
But where?
Where?
Where does someone have it?
You could have hooked up with him. You could have been your guy.
Yeah, that guy was scary.
Don't fucking ride shotgun with him.
If you do go to Costa Rica, don't fucking hop in the car with him.
That's all I'm saying
fucking
hop on the back of a motorcycle
who do you guys think is going to become
the next president
oh look I
have some outstanding bets I said it was going to
be Trump a year or so ago
I'll stand by them when he it seems
like he'll lose not Trump and not Biden
I don't care what the polls not Biden I don't care what
it's gonna be Gavin Newsom I don't care what that's your prediction or your hope no it's my
prediction it's gonna dream Biden is gonna be ushered out because he has fucking dementia and
then they're gonna bring in and I think the most popular left-leaning person nationally is that guy
right the the California governor?
Yeah, so I'm only halfway with you.
I think that Gavin Newsom will be the next president if Biden dies, which he might.
Biden can't run again.
He's just too senile, too old.
No, they're announcing it, but he'll drop out
and they'll put someone more palatable up there.
That was my guess as well, but we'll see.
I mean, it's up to him in the end.
We'll see what he wants to do.
You think it's up to Joe Biden?
Let's not get into a conspiracy theory in the middle of this.
Let's just talk about what we think is going to happen.
No, that's not a conspiracy theory.
He's a senile old man.
He's the president. It's up to him if he wants to run again.
He can say, I'm running, god damn it,
and they'll have to line up behind him.
I don't even think they might run damn it, and they'll have to line up behind him.
I don't even think he might win again.
They will. They have to.
They're about to. I think we're going to see it.
Not if they find someone better.
I think they're going to pivot to Gavin Newsom because he's way more
palatable. He's smarter.
Anyone is better on the mic than Joe.
I bet
that Joe Biden
runs for
President of the United States and he is the Democratic
nominee.
I bet
Joe Biden is going to win and he's going to be
a Republican this time around though.
A real wild
card pick over there.
He steals
Trump's nomination in the general
and then he switches back to Democrat and he doesn't have to go up against like, fuck, this is like a magic card, like a reverse combo.
Infinite vote glitch.
I'm both encumbrance.
I vote for me.
Both for Biden or Biden.
Did you see Marjorie Taylor Greene with the pictures of Hunter Biden?
Do you know what I realized or who I realized she looks like so much is she has a very Ron Perlman skull.
You don't want to change off this topic.
So does my dog.
Really?
Yeah.
So there was a weaponization of the government committee hearing and Marjorie Taylor Greene, this camera's there as being the crazy version of her and they're talking about hunter biden's tax evasion which he's pled guilty
to and paid the fines and somehow she brings up like pretty much revenge porn photos of him
with like two whores uh go ahead kyle so here's her justification I love when I don't know if she was a lawyer
I don't know what she was
her justification was
he wrote off
the funds he paid that hooker
with to make that porn
that's the money
that the
I don't know
Marjorie Taylor Greene oh Marjorie taylor green she's holding she's holding the poster up of him and and she has i
she first she had text that proved what she was saying i skipped over that i didn't care then she
had at least two poster boards each of them had at least two to three scenes of hunter biden having
sex with this woman and and she's used black bars
to block out his cock and and all the faces and it is hilarious she starts with this and wait is
that photoshopped or is that real that's real and then she starts flipping and dude it's it's very
graphic you see all of him except for his dick and his face and she's on her knees sucking him
and then she's got her hands out like he's like like she's she's like presenting well this is
helpful well i i don't think we should show exactly what she showed even though i don't
think we should show a prostitute sucking hunter biden's dick on the show well she censored it
with black bars taylor i'm saying you know i don't think we can show even the black bars
though it was very revealing i saw what's going on with i don't follow any of this what's going
on with hunter biden now that did the same shit same thing so what's going on is there are people
from the irs that said that they weren't allowed to fully investigate hunter biden's taxes
and don't know what's true don't know how credible they are,
whatever, but that's what's happening.
Usually they say that because it's all above board and you're not
going to find anything.
Well, they haven't found anything. There's no
evidence, but it might be true. We'll see.
Maybe there'll be some evidence.
But she
kind of just dragged in the revenge porn
photos to embarrass him and
put on a show because she's more of a
theater person than a
politician.
That's the kind of politician I like.
I like a politician that's got...
There's a certain
kind of politician that
is almost auditioning for roles
in the media post-political career
and not really proposing bills
and trying to govern.
They all either get a job in media
or they are like Nikki Haley
and they get a board position at Boeing
for $2 million no-call, no-show jobs afterward
because they make favorable calls
towards those companies while they're in office.
I'll agree.
They often have shady
post-politics careers,
but they don't all
not focus on governing
and focus instead on trying
to get as much attention and sort of make themselves
reality stars.
I think so
little of these people.
I like props. AOC,
MTG.
Who even is the House of Representative
person for St. Louis? I don't
know them. No, I couldn't tell.
Gun to my head, I have no idea. Nobody knows. Marjorie Taylor
Green is something special up there
showing revenge porn of Hunter Biden
on television. Who's 13?
He was guessing
that St. Louis had a bunch. It wouldn't be
13.
The whole state.
How many do we have? I think we have 11.
For the state.
10 or 11 in the state.
St. Louis probably.
I'm making it up. Maybe three.
13 too many?
Because you said for the city. I was asking for the city.
Oh, the city.
They probably have more than one.
St. Louis is one of those cities that gets less
when they reevaluate over the years. Because the city property is separated. city yeah yeah they probably have one st louis is one of those cities that like gets less when
they reevaluate over the years because the city property separated the murder rate
no it's because the city proper is separated from the suburb people don't know st louis suburbs
incredibly nice wonderful place to live the city i had a question um i don't know if you guys saw
i don't know if this is real or not, but I saw something about Michigan possibly passing a law about misgendering people.
And if you misgender them, it could be considered violent.
I don't know if it's true or not, but have you guys heard anything about that?
In Michigan?
I haven't heard about that.
If it is, I don't like it because that's not very free speech.
Yeah, I don't think we have to worry about anything like that.
That sounds like Canadian stuff with the compelled speech.
That's what Jordan Peterson was so upset about, if you remember.
I do.
I have not seen anything from that guy before.
According to Newsweek, it's probably unconstitutional.
I wasn't aware of it either.
It doesn't look like it's unconstitutional it's just proposed yeah if it's about like what you can say you know that's unconstitutional but
i guess they already control what you can say in a lot of ways yeah there's some ways you're like
you're not allowed to do hate speech and then where the line for hate speech begins and ends
is tricky yeah i think it's not really really the Constitution that it's five tech companies' terms of service
that dictate the ability to communicate in free public now.
It's not really the Constitution.
Well, Twitter seems to be a bit more free-ish as of late, right?
I agree with both of you.
I think the hate speech is free speech.
It is.
Yeah.
You don't need free speech to protect popular shit.
Hold on.
I think they do have,
they have it on there so you can't say sorts of things.
Like if you call someone a slut,
you would get in trouble for that on Twitter,
I think.
Well,
that's just an insult,
really.
But what if they were a slut though? Is it an insult or is it facts but what if they wore a slut though is it an insult
well checkmate yeah i do like that about your your twitter john i i see it and when girls tweet at you
in a way where they're trying to get attention from you you just block them you don't respond to women
on social media you say that's not for me i'm not interested is that something you the only so i do
respond to some it depends on what we're talking about for example if it's business related i would
talk to them without doubt they know something i don't know like if they know something like
let's say they got two million dollars because a specific career path they've done, obviously they know something I don't know.
In this scenario, a girl knows more than a boy?
Come on.
He's a humble guy.
He's a top J.
He goes for information anywhere that it's found.
No, I'm not buying it.
If someone has $2 million, they obviously got it somehow.
And if they didn't have it before their career, within two years,
they got $2 million.
Let me tell you how to find a sick old man.
Total morons can be multimillionaires.
I assure you.
No,
that is true.
Which is why I like to find out exactly what they have to talk about.
And I'm pretty good at digging into information and finding if it's
bullshit or if it's true.
And if it's true,
you know,
I like to find out myself,
Taylor, what do you think about
running some sort of nursing home scam?
Like where we go in there
and what I'm thinking is
we go around, we find some of the old people
who are not liking the way things
are ran there. We see if we can get
them all to say that
maybe at night things happen.
Maybe they happen, maybe they don't. But the old
folks are saying they happen, you know? And we cook up a little evidence. Maybe they happen, maybe they don't, but the old folks are saying they happen.
And we cook up a little evidence.
Like Better Call Saul, but more sinister.
Yeah, we make up the abuse and stuff.
It never happened.
Where's the payoff?
What do we get?
Well, we'll sue.
We'll sue.
We're going to be part of the suit.
We're going to get involved with that.
Okay.
Dude, I don't even think we'd have to make shit up.
There's a million videos of like old guys having like in a nursing home having to have their
bedding changed and then some attendant beating the shit out of them there's there's a ton of
those videos so we can just find one of those videos reverse track it well that just sounds
like i mean how else are they gonna learn right that's like no i don I don't. I don't think you should
be doubtfully people.
I feel like Taylor's against educating the elderly,
which is a kind of ageism.
It is. You need to educate them.
Spare the rod, spoil the
boomer.
The grandma.
Spare the rod, spoil the boomer.
Here's what you got to do.
I hit my elders with a stick
no wider than my thumb to make sure that I'm disciplining
them correctly.
I would allege they were making the old lady use a litter box or something from the crazy
like that.
We can go along with this.
I feel like we could really make some cash.
It's so fucked up.
Yeah, right?
Her poor knees are all fucked up so she can't even squat over enough.
She's spraying her old lady shit all over and then you're like getting mad at her for
doing it yeah I don't like
this scenario I invented it's upsetting
to me but I do like
your idea yeah so everybody likes
the old I have a question
for John so you
have you done the training at Hustler
University
yeah I have yeah
what's it like
um so in a sense most of that information you can find on
the internet i will say that is true because a lot of people do talk about it i just like how
easy it is to have all the information at one spot so i don't have to sift through you know
different websites and youtube accounts to find all the good courses
did you take um i've done crypto on there what hustling uh drop shipping and a couple other
things what was i missed before drop shipping i said crypto and uh drop shipping crypto and dropshipping.
Crypto and dropshipping courses? And then I looked at a couple other ones, but I haven't gone in depth.
How much is a course?
I believe if you want to sign up for Hosser University, it's $50 a month, I believe.
That's what I thought.
And does that get you unlimited courses?
Yeah, it gives you everything that's in there.
Okay.
What are the courses made up of?
Is it kind of like a college course where you log into a portal
and then there's like a slideshow with a quiz at the end, that kind of thing?
So, yeah, there's a lot of test taking.
If you don't pass the test, you don't get to move on.
So you have to pass the test usually.
And then sometimes they do live streams
when the people that's teaching the course
would go on and answer questions and stuff like that.
I think it's actually pretty good.
Okay.
What would you say is...
Did you try it?
Did you try dropshipping?
Did you try crypto?
Yeah.
So I didn't try crypto from what they've done.
I made my younger brother do that
and he's actually pretty good at it.
Um,
I have tried drop shipping and I'm going to be honest.
If you're going,
if you're trying to find how to make a drop shipping website,
like on YouTube,
it's going to take you 10 times longer for success.
This university,
I was pissed.
I made my website before Hushers university,
before I signed up and I got on there, and I
looked at the dropshippers, like, are you fucking
kidding me? They give you the answer
white seal, and it took me, like,
hours and hours to find something simple
how to fix,
you know, part of the website on YouTube.
So I just like how convenient
it is. They literally have every
information you need for whatever course
you're learning.
I think it's a lot easier. Like, if you try and make a dropshipping website, I highly recommend doing it at the University because they teach you everything you need
to know.
Do they give you, as far as dropshipping, do they have a specific company that they're
looping you in for your fulfillment or no okay like they
they recommend uh what's it called shopify you don't have to do shopify though like
uh and then for example like let's say the products they give you multiple options really
good ones but you know you know, before,
like if you're trying to do drop shipping, there's not that many people you could really
go. If you're trying to get cheap products, like usually if you're trying to get cheap products,
it's usually China. If you're trying to do something more advanced, which is what I did
at first, before I did Hostess University, I found a local company in the States to drop ship their products, not realizing their products is just Chinese products.
Anyways, it's just assembled in the States.
That's like 90% of the stuff.
The stuff you find on Amazon, for example, a lot of the stuff you find on there, you can find it for a tenth of the price on like olibaba or something like that
and obviously the shipping is going to take longer but if you're trying to save money tenth of the
price is a tenth of the price yeah yeah yeah so you are you still a member of hustle university
or now that you've taken the courses you're interested in, you're dipping out?
No, I'm currently still a member because they do add on new courses every week.
Not every week, my bad.
Every X amount of period of time
they add on a new course.
For example, just the other day
on July 15th,
or it might have been the 14th actually,
they released AI
and how to use AI to make cartoons
or animate in short videos and how to profit off of that.
Do you have access to the account now and you could read us the classes he's offering?
I don't know if I could.
I might get kicked out for that.
I know there's lots of real rules.
He'd kick you out of the university?
I might.
I know when you sign up, there's a whole bunch of different rules
and like
that kind of sucks other universities let you know
which classes are available
yeah
they let you know what classes are available
I can read you the courses
in great detail probably not
yeah yeah
obviously the content is
yeah the content is definitely we don't want that for free we just want to know like like pussy eating what what like what kind of stuff is
he bullshit i've had sex for a long time if the female orgasm was real i'd have seen it by now
that's getting goddamn right what his wife has assured him there's no such thing?
That it's bullshit.
The clit?
They're like, can't find the clit.
The clit, let me tell you,
it's a red herring. It's like
cow tipping. It's not real.
That should be the official position of the
show. It's not
the G spot that's made up. It's the the show. It's not the G-spot that's made up.
It's the clit.
It's not real.
They just say that to make you think that you're bad at sex.
Exactly.
If you could find the clit, you'd be good.
But it's not true.
They just want you to feel bad about yourself.
Yeah.
So one of them is crypto, day trading, dropshipping, and then AI.
And there's a few other things on here like about working out and fitness and all that stuff.
I believe there's six main ones that you can make money off of.
I believe one of them is copywriting.
Let me see.
What's this other one?
There's a couple that didn't strike your do not get into copyright it if they're telling you to do copywriting as money that's not true don't do
that okay stop because that one really appealed to me and the reason why is i feel like drop
shipping and crypto are like the classic kind of oh Oh, trust me. There's easy money out there.
Copyright.
It's not easy money.
You gotta know what you're doing.
Okay.
I hear you,
but sort of the meme or like,
you know,
the,
the pitch is there's easy money,
but copywriting,
I'd never heard of before.
Another one I heard of was with like basic Photoshop skills,
you can build corporate logos and there's a market out there.
People pay $1,000
for what takes you 20, 40 minutes to do.
And I was like, oh shit.
One, I don't have that skill.
And it's like, yeah, shit.
If you could go to Hustle University,
market yourself as a logo creator,
maybe there's a business there.
And the reason copywriting
and logo creation appealed to me
is because it's not as widely known
as crypto and drop shipping.
Like maybe there's an actual,
I do know about copywriting there.
Copywriting is super saturated.
Any,
I have written copy.
I can professionally write copy if I need to,
for any company that hires me easily.
It's not hard if you're a good writer.
The thing is,
is that anyone can write decent copy.
And now I get competent writing at all. Yeah. If you guys ever heard writer. The thing is, is that anyone can write decent copy. And now,
I get to be competent writing it all.
If you guys ever heard of this,
copy is the words for an ad.
Yes.
Yeah.
Sorry, I should have said that.
Yeah.
When you see an article in a catalog,
when you hear what we're reading in ads,
that's called copy.
The description of an item
is sometimes called copy.
Like when you click on a t-shirt.
I think learning the skill of copywriting is extremely useful if you're doing a drop shipping.
Because then you know how to copyright yourself.
And then you don't have to go out and pay someone a crazy amount of fees.
The skill with copywriting is just writing.
And when you're a better writer, you're better at articulating yourself because you can form sentences and thoughts better.
When you're a better writer, you're better at articulating yourself because you can form sentences and thoughts better.
The thing with being a copywriter pursuing it is that it's so fucking cheap to get someone to write copy for you.
And generally, a company of any major size is not outsourcing copy.
They have internal people who are familiar enough with the product or brand to write exactly in the voice that they want. And so the idea that you could just be like, hey,
I'm literate.
Blue apron.
You need copy?
They're going to be like, no, that's taken care of.
I'm like, no, we're not going to hire you.
You're not going to blow Blue Apron's mind with some revolutionary copy
because it's advertising.
The thing is, how many times in here do we have to mention the URL?
How many times in here do we have to mention the the url how many times
in here do we have to say these specific words and not mention this specific word like that's
that's how that shit is actually structured and so do not learn copywriting if you're trying to
make money because are you gonna anyone who's making logos when that's the same thing it's
super saturated you're not going to make money making logos there are a thousand kids on fiverr
who can do it just as well as you yeah and any major company that's going to pay thousands of dollars for a logo
is going to use their in-house team yeah correction there's a thousand kids on fiverr
who can do it better than me but i only was uh found those ideas appealing because i hadn't
heard them before yeah that yeah that that that sets a bell off for me telling
people to get into copywriting no no no especially with ai right now ai can already write competent
copy already like it's it's already a real i want a real hustlers university that actually teaches
you how to commit crimes like like here's some crimes i'd like to know how to commit more
more effectively i'd like to rob vending machines. I'm taking burglary 3000.
Think about it like this. There's a lot of money
in vending machines. Maybe a couple hundred dollars.
No, there's not.
Alright, well, you learn as you go,
Taylor.
We're going to rob vending machines.
We've already had a vending machine, like $6.
This is why you start somewhere.
So you're telling me we're going to have to hit a lot of them.
ATM machines, Kyle.
You need to learn to rob ATM machines.
No, see, that's federal law.
There's a rapper who made a YouTube video, a music video,
explaining on how to rob banks by stealing people's credit card information.
Like if you really want to learn that, just go listen.
I can send you the song.
He made a whole music video teaching people how to rob.
You know what might be a good business video teaching people how to wobble.
You know what might be a good business, Kyle?
It seems really easy.
Stealing catalytic converters.
They're expensive, and you can get one in two and a half minutes with the Sawzall.
Do most cars even have those?
All modern cars have them.
It's part of the exhaust, a catalytic converter.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I thought they stopped putting them on.
Oh, it's like the new ones.
Maybe I'm right.
I mean, the Teslas.
Wasn't it used to be like a smelly thing,
or maybe they made it not smell bad or something?
A catalytic converter removes pollutants from your exhaust, Timmy,
and you see it's very valuable to thieves
because of the valuable materials inside.
Palladium, platinum, and many other precious metals.
Is that really why it's valuable?
Goddamn right.
Yeah, they're expensive to make.
And the internet says all cars after 1974 have them.
Okay.
Now, Teslas and such, but let's just say...
What are they for?
It's the exhaust and...
Wait, are you joking?
No.
Oh, through some kind of magic,
when the exhaust passes it it gets cleaner on
the other side boom okay yeah no i did that was probably a stupid question i didn't know that
okay yeah yeah so it's a very expensive part of your car that makes your exhaust cleaner and not
only that it's back there hanging off like a bull's balls or something it's like you want this
because it's go to the back of any car. Oh, is that that huge thing?
No, that's the muffler, the big thing in the back.
That's for sound. In front of it is a catalytic converter.
Okay.
It's that tube that's before the
muffler, right?
Maybe Zach can pull up a picture.
Doesn't it have platinum in it or something like that?
It does have platinum.
There's a lot of rare metals in there, which makes them expensive yeah on the very back is a muffler there that's a
catalytic converter and there's the o2 sensor on it what is the actual amount of money on or maybe
you don't know a new one would be like 1200 1500 so i don't know how the stolen market works but
probably way a few hundred bucks maybe a couple hundred right you think 250 for that
but if you have a sawzall um muffler tubing is very easy to cut through you could get through
it with this with a cordless sawzall and a good blade and a good blade and i really think each
cut would take 15 seconds maybe yeah not more than 20. So in under a minute, you've got that thing removed,
and you're on your skateboard running away.
Where do you go?
This car is all over the place.
No, no, no.
Once I've got it in my hands, do I already have to have a guy?
Yeah, that's where Hustlers University comes in.
I don't know how to sell it.
Yeah, that's where Hustlers University is.
It looks really cool.
You have $50,000 worth of catalytic converters
and not know what to do with them? Hi, I'm
Troy McClure. You may remember me from
such criminal enterprises
as Carthevery.
Where do I find a chop shop?
Yeah.
So catalytic
converters go bad because
they clog up
and
they're often stolen. So there's a market for them.
If you just melt down the
metals, you can sell the metals
almost anywhere.
Oh, I didn't consider that. But where do you go?
Yeah, right. Where do you
find a chop shop? Where do you find someone who buys
obviously stolen catalytic converters? I feel like i would go up there and they'd see that
i didn't know what i was doing and i'd be like hey gentlemen you know what i would do you want
a little bit of white china and they're like what are you talking about and i'm like it's like i'm
not so you guys want a catalytic converter sir that's a's a muffler. Fuck, no wonder I've been getting hosed.
Here's what you do.
You put them on fucking Craigslist in that area
and wait for the guys who you just stole them from
to buy them back from you.
A new Dodge Ram catalytic converter is $3,500 or some shit.
Sell them for a grand a pop.
You're killing it.
Sir, this can't be yours.
It says Kyle right there.
I'll put it back on there for you for $1,500.
They make guards.
They make guards protect them.
That I cut fits your truck.
What are the odds?
I measured it perfect for you.
Fucking tack it in there.
That's what we do at Kyle's
catalytic converter replacement
service.
That's what we do at Kyle's
recently reclaimed
catalytic
control. You just sent us a picture
of the old pipes and we come with
one perfect. Look at this.
You're telling
me that this happened today.
That's crazy because this
has had, you can see it says Kyle
on it and I've been like this
for years.
Dad has the same number. Sometimes the factories this for years you can buy it has the same number sometimes the factories
mix up you can buy these armored plates now to protect your uh catalytic converter it's called
i can't it's got a a catchy name it's called like a cat cage or some shit but it's it's like
armor plate that goes around huh that's good that's a good sign that they're selling lots
of things to protect valuable
car parts now i think in major cities people's cars get get robbed all the fucking time the kia
robbery my brother's my brother drives a kia and his insurance has skyrocketed
yeah like like up 40 50 because of the the kia boys stealing all the kias the one this is
interesting because i really like that it's thought out to just be annoying as fuck.
That's $430.
I'll make...
Fuck you.
The one I saw was like metal and it shielded the entire catalytic converter.
It made it invisible and sealed to the bottom of the car.
I don't see why I don't just cut to both sides. Oh's locked i see so you have to cut the i don't know if i
brought a sawzall i can get through that cable right is it that i saw i saw a video the other
day black dude caught a guy cutting his off and he's holding him at pistol point waiting on the
cops to show up he thought he was gonna steal my shit fuck you dude it when you look at cars as spare parts
so i used to be into off-roading a lot this is a long time ago like more than 15 years ago and uh
like i would break a uh a cv joint in my tacoma and it's like fuck this is expensive i can't find
them in stock this is an issue but they're sitting all over here they're just parking
lots full of tacomas i never did it but it's hard not to think about if you ever would you ever go
to the scrapyard and and get a part off an old truck because we would do it all the time if we
needed a when we would like we built a 55 chevrolet kind of from scratch and we needed a front end
we went to the scrapyard you got a front end that makes sense
i kind of didn't have that skill set like finding a junkyard and dealing with the junker so if you
ever want to get into it like like there there'll be you go to a major salvage yard and they'll have
pulled all of the primo parts off of everything so if you were if you wanted say a side mirror off an acura that might
just be inside on a shelf somewhere the trans all of the transmissions and and like the premium
little doodads that are they're in there on a shelf somewhere but you can go out into the fields
out there and dig shocks and fucking yeah i thought i would have to go out there with my own jack and
remove the tire and make it happen maybe i would that they would help you they'd give you anything you want in my experience
we've done a lot of that like like we would we would go there all the time and get parts for
all sorts of things yeah yeah i don't have any experience with that i would just go to autozone
and wait for ship you know or i think some of the we've definitely bought transmissions from
there before yeah i think a couple of transmissions from there.
Rear ends, brake stuff especially.
It'll just be lying there.
They've already disassembled it off the cars.
It's probably a wrap, eh?
Four hours in.
Yeah, I can see that.
Yes, it is.
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