Pardon My Take - Week 17 NFL Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Jets & Commanders Eliminated, Packers Stay Alive & College Football Playoffs

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

Week 17 we start with the fastest 2 minutes then recap every game from Sunday. (00:00:00-00:09:10) Bucs/Panthers (00:09:10-00:25:04) Patriots/Dolphins (00:25:04-00:32:03) Commanders/Browns (00:32:03- 00:46:31) Giants/Colts (00:46:31-00:56:35) Saints/Colts (00:56:35-01:04:22) Chiefs/Broncos (01:04:22-01:13:10) Lions/Bears (01:13:10-01:18:28) Jaguars/Texans (01:18:28-01:22:06) Falcons/Cardinals (01:22:06-01:23:54) Chargers/Rams (01:23:54-01:30:53) Niners/Raiders (01:30:53-01:38:31) Seahawks/Jets (v 01:38:31-01:49:18) Packers/Vikings (01:49:18- 01:57:41) Ravens/Steelers (01:57:41-02:02:06) We then talk College Football Playoffs who's back and football guys of the week. (02:02:06-02:45:00)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take week, 17 of the NFL. We're going to start with fastest two minutes. We are going to talk about every single game. There have been some eliminations that have taken place in this room. A lot of moving and shaking teams are, their seasons are officially over.

And we're going to do who's back of the week, football guy of the week. Talk a little college football as well, the best college football playoffs we've ever seen. Semifinals, I like how people were tweeting like, is it a hot take to say these are the best semifinals you've ever seen? No, they usually always suck and those were two incredible games. So we're going to talk about all of it. A lot of football to get to. It's brought to you by our friends at Instacart.

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Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take today is Monday, January 2nd, week. 17. Let us be the first to wish you a happy New Year and a blessed jumpsuit January to you. We start in Tampa Bay, where Tom Wayne Brady looked like he wanted to choke a bitch as he continues to play who's on the offensive line anyway this year. The Panthers had some life as painfully shy Smith asked Sam Donald pick me pick me hooking up for a touchdown and the game turned when Mike Sean Evans went on a heater, catching

three touchdowns and saying, look at us. The Bucks is NFC South Champs. Who would have thought? Well, literally everyone, but it wasn't a lot harder than we thought at the beginning of the season. The Bucks are NFC South Champs. Bucks 30 Panthers 24 over to Kansas City, where Russell and Flo Wilson said it's all around here for a sip as interim head coach Jerry Mossberg had him lining up in shock

that all afternoon. Pat Rick Riley Mahomes had the same amount of touchdowns as Kate Upton's boobs with three. The chiefs are waiting for the playoffs as play me up before you go girl. Bell scored a touchdown and George Michael Carloft is submitted another game with a sack. The Chiefs 24, the Broncos, Chiefs 27, the Broncos 24. He almost slipped up there.

Shipped up. We've never been. He stepped till midnight. Yeah. A couple glasses of champagne. We don't make mistakes on this show up to Foxborough as Mac Efron goes back and forth between looking like a serial killer, taking out other players knees and looking really good like he did on Sunday.

Teddy Bridge. One of those couldn't make up for Jason Sanders, ugly kicks and had to leave the game with a broken finger as Skyler Hunter S. Thompson came into the game and helped the Dolphins playoff chances go Gonzo. Don't look now, Tige, but the Patriots have a shot at the playoffs in week 18. Patriots 23, Dolphins 21. We go down to DC where, stop me if you've heard this before, but to Sean Watson got penalized for illegal touching, but Washington on the other hand couldn't get their hands

on chump as he ran for 104 yards. Amari Mini Cooper doesn't miss his full size Derrick Carr as he was able to score twice. As for the commanders, their playoff hopes came and winced as Sean Taylor Heinecke might as well have been a statue on the sidelines with no arms or legs. Don't let the Browns get hot. Cleveland 24. Washington 24. Browns 10.

That was my fault. That was on the telephone. That was my telephone straighter. That was my telephone straighter. Hey, it's a new year. Go fuck yourself, San Diego. It's a new year for us too. In the Meadowlands, they honored Lawrence Taylor pregame and during the game as K-Von

Thibodeau made it snow with Angels. Nick Foles also contributed to the tribute of LT by completing exactly eight balls. Speaking of balls, Brian Daybaugh looks to be the coach of the year as he's made average guys like I'm Richie James, bitch, cold-blooded Giants 38, Colts 10. And we head down to Atlanta for the game that had zero playoff implications as the Cardinals went to David Blau-Blau-Blauer wheels to try to rub up the Cardinals offense that's fallen off a cliff. Desmond Critter, I refuse to eat the Bugs boom, was sneaking around the Cardinals backyard

as JJ Watt-Wiler's got that dog in him still. As Arthur Smith defeats Cliff Kingsbury in a battle of the two most attractive coaches in the NFL, the Falcons 20, the Cardinals are 19 points up to the not so frozen tundra where the incessant ads are once again being stuffed down our throat as a certain felonious insurance spokesman, discount double checked his way to a win. Jair Alexander called the juke that he received at the expense of Justin Jefferson in week one a fluke as he hit the gritty early and often in the wide receiver's face. Hey boo, hey teach, have you heard this?

Have you seen this? They put up a statue in Minnesota and it's Kirk Nowitzki cousins throwing a perfect interception to the Packers as he had three on the day. I hate that motherfucker boom. Don't look now, but the Green Bay Packers are in a win and in scenario in week 18 with the Detroit Lions. Huh? Huh?

Huh? Huh? Huh? Oh, buried the Bears. Packers 41 Viking 17. Over to the desert where Jarrett Stardom or Sidham got the nod as Jarrett Carr has been parked in the repo lot. Good news for the quarterback, Devonte I'm walking here was actually running free all

Sunday after scoring two touchdowns. Darren, what you want to do? Want to be a walla, shotcaller, balla, chipped in on the scoring and the Niners were officially on the ropes until Brock's 30 riding the ship as St. Franz fans are Brock hard now that they're Brock 40 with the one seed. Niners 37, the... 34. Standing on the corner, Jamie Swiston down in Ola, such a fine sight to see.

It's the birds, my lord, struggling to score and now they might not be the top seed. Come on, Menchu, get that dog in you. Or else the Eagles going home, play off weekend two. Saints go marching, 20 to 10. And that was week 17 brought to you by our friends at Chevy, Chevy Silverado. It's a new year. Time to go get yourself into a Chevy Silverado, the best truck ever created. It is unstoppable.

It's a Chevy Silverado. Tell them PMT sent you when you get in your brand new Chevy Silverado brand new year, brand new you, Chevy Silverado. Learn more at Chevy.com. Okay, week 17 in the books. We actually will talk about Raven Steelers at the end because we're taping a little early so we can go watch the game with Jersey Jerry on the stream. A lot of things happened, a lot of things happened in this room.

We watched a shitload of football. We're going to talk about college football playoffs as well after all the games. But let's just get right into it. I tried to order it in terms of playoff implications. So talking about the games that actually meant something and then we'll get to the games that mean absolutely nothing. Shout out to Cardinals and Falcons. I actually took zero notes and didn't watch a second of that game.

But let's start. I have one note on that game. Bucks 30, Panthers 24, the Tampa Bay Bucks have finally after like it was a long drawn out process. It was a war of attrition. Someone had to win the NFC South. They do it, come from behind, win the NFC South. Tom Brady was throwing deep balls to Mike Evans.

The Bucks are your NFC South champs. They are still a bad football team, but they are in the playoffs and hosting a playoff game on Wildcard weekend. So yeah, that's 14 straight playoff appearances for Tom Brady. Just crazy to think about. Crazy. Insane. And so if you're Tom Brady, Banners fly forever.

You won the division. NFC South. It was all worth it. All worth it. Everything that you've done in the last nine, 10 months, it worked out. You won the division. I do. I will say this was the happiest.

I think I've seen him in a very long time because not only did they win the division, go into the playoffs, their seed is set. There's nothing like he can, the Bucks can rest basically everyone week 18. They should get Ryan Jensen back his center. Maybe they have him play, but he looked happy. I think because they won the NFC South and also it was the first time that their offense looked somewhat competent in forever throwing deep balls to Mike Evans. He threw a 50 yard touchdown, a 61 yard touchdown.

Mike Evans had 207 yards. It was like it was, it was Tom Brady won the game. It's been a lot of Tom Brady does enough to win a game, but the defense has to chip in and they win like 14 to 13. No, he tore it up. He won this game. Tom Brady tore it up today. Yeah.

And we've been using the F word a lot for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year. Not frauds. Not frauds. Not frauds. The other F word, flawed. Oh, we've been calling them flawed all year, right? But it looks like the Bucks have actually looked at what's made them flawed and then realized there are certain things that we can do good.

Yeah. Let's lean into those things. In a way, like by knowing how bad they can be, they're going into the playoffs being like, okay, we've learned a lot of lessons this year. And as if it turns out that still throwing deep balls to Mike Evans, yeah, it works because he's, I think it was, I think it was like a little dinged up earlier in the year when he had some hamstring issues. He was a little bit slow, but now it's like he does look like the Mike Evans of three

years ago. By the way, Mike Evans just as a side note, I think that everyone probably doesn't realize just how good Mike Evans is because there were a lot of years that was with James and not great Bucks teams. And then, you know, Tom Brady comes and it's like, well, it's Tom Brady. Mike Evans now is second all time. Only one other person is, or only two other people have done this. Tim Brown is tied with Mike Evans, nine consecutive 1000 yard receiving years.

The only person ahead of him is Jerry Rice with 11 years. Mike Evans is a Hall of Fame. Which is crazy because it doesn't it feel like he's had a very good career, but then when you stop and you look at it, you're like, holy shit, he's, he's got 83 touchdowns, uh, or sorry, 81 touchdowns in his career. If he gets to a hundred, he'll be top 10 all time in touchdowns. Everyone in the top 15 is in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, he's definitely going.

Every single year he's been in the NFL, he's been in the NFL nine years. Every year he's gotten over a thousand yards and he's not even 30 yet. I feel like he's also a pretty overlooked piece of the whole Johnny Manziel situation. Yeah. The Johnny football magic that happened in college station, that had a lot to do with him just throwing the ball up in the air and Mike Evans being able to catch it. But he is one of those players that I think that if you ask just, uh, any regular football fan, like is he a Hall of Famer?

They would be like, I never really thought of that, maybe, but if he has even two more years, uh, at this standard, which again, he's not even turned 30 yet. He's like a no doubter Hall of Famer. Yeah. I mean, his only weakness is getting into fights with CD deuce. Yes. That's about it. Exactly.

So in the playoffs, I mean, if, if the Eagles, he's on the birds, right? He is. Yeah. Is he hurt? Uh, he is currently hurt. They need to get him healthy for the playoffs in case you play against the Bucks. Probably not. Because that's the, that's the only way that they can.

Max lie to us. Take Mike Evans. I, I have something I want to admit because we are in the trustry. I think I'm now starting to believe in the Bucks again. Like I can actually see it. I've, I've, I've actually, as bad as I've been with the Bucks to begin the year, I've actually been very right about them in the last like month and a half where I, I got off of them for a little bit there and then I went back on them this week.

I now think that like the path is there. The Cowboys who Tom Brady owns, they're getting Ryan Jensen being Tristan Worf's coming back, Ryan Jensen set to come back. Like that's been their biggest problem is their offensive line has given him no time. Their defense has always been pretty good. I'm, I'm starting to think that this might be a Bucks run again. So this is what's going to happen. It's going to be, it's going to be Bucks Cowboys first round.

Cowboys are going to lose somehow to Tom Brady, who has never lost to the Cowboys before. Yeah. Tom Brady has never lost to the Cowboys before the Bucks. Ten and no Bucks will beat Dallas in the first round. McCarthy fired Sean Payton, head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm just letting you know, read the news before it's the news. Cowboys are getting the one. Yeah. You've been talking about this because you just, your anger for Philadelphia just never leaves your brain.

No, I just feel it in today and you're like, Cowboys getting one, Cowboys getting one. Hank, here's the thing. The Giants aren't going to play the starters next week. So it's going to be Philadelphia. Philadelphia is going to beat them. So whatever the Cowboys do, it doesn't really matter. Cowboys getting the one he's saying. Factor fiction.

Factor fiction. The Eagles are going to beat the Giants next week, Hank. Fiction. All right. So put the Giants in the hungry dog. Fine. Okay. Done. Then then the Eagles will definitely win.

Done. Yeah. So the Giants might be favored. I don't think so. You never know. Let's look, let's look. Whose line is it anyway? It's in Philadelphia, correct, Max? Yes.

Yeah. Hank's the fucking worst. He's been on his troll shit today. He came in, he's like, I bet against PFT, talking about the Cowboys. And then he's like, I bet on the Bears is like, they're trying to lose. They're trying to lose. He's trying to, you know, be friends.

What's whose line is it anyway? It's not out yet? Exactly. Okay. I never know. Yeah. Oh, because you're going to be so high. Vegas probably took it down.

The Giants could be favorites. No. No. Fiction. Fiction. Absolute fiction. They cannot be. They will not be.

They, I bet my life on it. I bet my life. I was going to say, you want to put your life on it? When the line comes out, if the Eagles are underdogs, I will go up to the top of this building and jump off. Okay. There we go. They have to be, yeah.

Line coming out underdogs. There's just no life. I've never bet my life on anything before this. I'm jumping with you. I'll jump on you. You know what? You jump on my, you get on my back, we'll do it as like a backpack.

Okay. Got it. And maybe if I turn around quick enough, you'll brace them falling off the rock. I don't think that's how it's going to work. I think if one of us is going to be the mattress, Billy's going to fist pump right now. What?

If you jump off a bridge and throw a rock, like if you throw a rock underneath, like you let a rock go first, because they always say hitting the water is what hurts. But if you just drop a big rock like before you, that would break the, break the pressure. When they were building the Brooklyn bridge, you should throw your hammer down if you fell off.

If you're one of the iron workers. But since Big Cat weighs significantly more than me, for now, for now, for now. Hard body season, he's smirking. He's going to drop faster than me, right? Hard body season. So I can just land on him. Or do I just spread out and I have more?

What is, what's the line? What's the line? The line is 14. Yeah. Suck my dick, Hank. You fucking idiot. Hank, go jump off the building. God damn it, Cowboys One Seed, right?

Cowboys One Seed. Anything can happen. He's just on his troll shit. All right. That is true. The bucks, I am now believing in the bucks. I don't know how, I don't know how, like why, what has changed.

But I think it was just the deep balls. Like I, the bucks offense, I've watched every single bucks game with Steven Shea and sitting in that gambling cave and they all go the exact same way where they just get like, they'll get first and goal on the five and they'll gain two yards and then try to kick a field goal. This was the first time they were actually throwing it deep and they actually look like the bucks,

the first time they look like the bucks, week one when they pounded the Cowboys. The only issue I have is that Todd Bulls is going to, at some point. He's such an idiot. Yeah. He's going to turn back to Todd Bulls, Byron left, which probably cost himself a lot of money this year.

But by really like showing people how bad that he was, like his before this, going into the season, he was like the next hot name for a head coach. Now it's like, oh, we found out too much about you. What was that? Todd Bulls had even in a win. I think it was actually, it was some, sometime in the first half, he had his kicker try

like a 55 yarder. He does not have even close to that type of leg. No. And just flip the field for the Panthers who, I'm happy now that the Panthers can officially be my dark horse team next year that didn't make the playoffs. It's going to make the playoffs because they are like, they're way over matched by the Bucks from a pure talent standpoint.

They were in this game. Sam Donald looked pretty good. They can now potentially, I'm just going to start like doing fake, I've been doing fake trades in my head for like the last three weeks. They could potentially trade up to the first or second pick, second pick with the Bears, get Bryce Young or CJ Stroud. They have pieces, like they get a coach.

Yeah. They're looking good. That's going to be the big questions with what coach they get, or do they try Sam Donald again next year? Yeah, they could try Sam Donald. You probably have the luxury to have, if you do get CJ Stroud or Bryce Young, you can probably set them for a year.

Yeah. Because Sam Donald looked pretty good today. And he's faster. I don't know what it is about Sam Donald in these last like three weeks. He actually looks like a mobile quarterback. Yeah. And man, New York Jets have got to be just kicking themselves. If they still had Sam Donald,

they'd probably be in the playoffs right now. He's a difference maker. Yep. Yeah. They actually had like the perfect season to set up the next season, where they were in every game. They were in, they could have won the NFC South as of this morning. Yeah.

And they still, because the NFC South is so bad, they're going to have a top 10 pick. It's like, you couldn't script it better, and they traded Christian McCaffrey for more picks. Right. You couldn't script it better for them to be a team that goes from out of the playoffs to in the playoffs in one year. So what do you do if you're tepid,

or if you're the owner, do you make Steve Wilkes actually like interview to be the head coach? I think so. Or does he just put on the tape? I don't know. If I were him, that'd be a power move. Just walk in, set up a projector, press play, and leave. Yeah.

What'd you do here? Yeah. Why'd you do this? Why didn't you run the ball against the Steelers? No, I'd just be like, look what I did. Oh, you're saying Steve Wilkes do that. Steve Wilkes comes in, press play. Here's what I did while I was coach.

Yeah. He did. I mean, he brought them back from being one of the biggest jokes in the league when Matt Ruhl was still there. I've got a theory. It's jumping ahead a little bit to the commander's game. OK. I think Rivera wants to go back to North Carolina.

Mm. Will they have them? Prott. They'd probably take him in like a front office position. I mean, they still do love him because I've never seen it before in my entire life where a coach gets a press conference after they get fired. Yeah.

Remember, he went and he was like, we did a lot of things here. I think we won the NFC. He actually quoted winning the NFC South like whatever, three years in a row, one of those years they won it at seven and nine. Yeah. He just fly forever. His key still works.

They'll probably have him in whenever. Probably still got his office up there. Last thing I have is Tom Brady now joins the club of 40-year-olds with 400 yards passing in a game. The club is six members. It's Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, and Tom Brady. So he's now got it four times.

He's the only one to do it four times. Yeah. He's the only one to do it. Thank you to Stathole for that second. Tom Brady could probably also do it when he's 50. If I were Tom Brady, you know what I'd do? I'd retire whenever I want to retire, which I mean, that could be never.

It could be next year. And then I'd come back for one last season after I turned 50. Just get your body completely, totally healed. You do nothing but yoga. And TB12, you eat all the avocados that you want. No nightshades. You're in perfect condition.

You come back when you're 50 years old just to prove that you can still play in the NFL. I don't think there's any chance he's retiring. I think this type of game where he won the NFC South, going back to the playoffs, through the bombs, that's like when you golf and on the 18th hole, you just crush a drive. Man, that was fun.

You were all ready to quit golf. You were going to save yourself $1,000 a year. I don't think he's retiring either because he's coming back and going to Vegas. Yeah, there's a lot of fanfic out there. Hank, so are you all in on the box making a, let's say, NFC championship game would be them punching above what they've been this year.

And a pretty crazy run because I don't think anyone expects them to go all the way to the NFC championship game because they just haven't been good all year. Yeah, I think they could be the Eagles. I think they could be, you know, rookie Brock party that could easily, I could see them winning that game. Yeah, no, they, no, it's right. Think about it, Hank, Tom Brady against Brock

party, don't overthink it. Championship TVD, game one, the 49ers. Oh my God, they win by a hundred. Tom Brady looks old, looks old. Wait, so who, who can playoffs come who wins? Who can't they beat Dallas at home would be tough, but I think they could do it. That's the one team that they should be able to beat.

Wait, when Dallas gets the one seat, got it. They could beat the Vikings. So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm all, I'm all in the one seed, which you've declared has happened. Yep. That would be their toughest matchup. That's the one seed fanfic on our side of the table, not yours.

Yeah, I would actually be afraid of the Lions if I was the box. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. The Lions are like, they will outscore the Buccaneers. Also the Packers, maybe. Is Jalen Hurts coming back? Yeah, he is. You're on your troll shit today.

I'm curious. Let's go to the next game. Why didn't he play today? I don't think LaFleur wants to face Tom Brady again at the playoffs. I think it's so deep inside the, the vortex that the math part of his brain, you know, just psych himself out.

LaFleur goes up to Todd Bowles before and he's like, let's just not do any field goals. Let's just keep this on the sevenths. Yeah, come on, let's tell you what. Kickers aren't really part of the game, right? Let's settle this like men. I don't want to be tempted to just start going for field goals.

All right, next up, Patriots 23, Dolphins 21. Can I just real quick go back? If he does play, if the battle of the bays happens again and LaFleur has to coach against Tampa Bay, there's definitely a chance that at some point in that game, Matt LaFleur will think about us. Oh, I would say the whole week he'll be thinking about us. He'll have a decision and our stupid faces

will pop into his head and be like, wait, am I just choosing this despite those assholes? If, if, now this is a very big if because the Packers would have to get into the playoffs and the seating really doesn't work out. It would, I think they'd only meet in the NFC championship game, right? But if that did happen, I will, PFT and I both will pay

an AWL will buy four seats in direct line of Matt LaFleur across the field and you can bring, you'll have to bring big cardboard cutouts of us and just hold it up on any field goal decision. Yep. So he can just see our faces. And Hank's going to match. And Hank will match, game time.

Okay, next up, Patriots 23, Dolphins 21. Hank doesn't want the Patriots to win. He doesn't want them to go to the playoffs, but they are now in a win and get in situation. The Dolphins season has completely fallen apart, five straight losses, Teddy Bridgewater broke his finger on an interception, I think, Skyler Thompson. It's just all fallen apart.

And now the Patriots somehow, this is what I was alluding to when I said, let's save for the show. I turned to PFT earlier today and I was like, it's so fucked up that this season looks so different. And now we're sitting here and the Dolphins could get eliminated, the Jets have been eliminated, the Bears were eliminated in fucking September, and the Commander's got eliminated today.

And now Hank's just sitting here, doesn't even want to be in the playoffs. No, this sucks. And he's going to be in the playoffs. This actually hurts, it hurts me. I'm like, I'm watching Hank not even enjoy the fact that his team's going to make the playoffs. And over here, it's like, that's, you should love this.

He's like, for what reason? It's like, we're his parents. Why? And we took Hank out to like, little Hank comes out with us with his undeveloped palette and we got to a nice sushi dinner. And Hank's like, ew, gross. I don't want this stuff.

They have chicken fingers? Oh yeah, do they have mac and cheese bites, please? Hank, this is Gourmet shit that you're getting right now, okay? And you're just not even appreciating. He's like, what for? I don't want to go to the playoffs. Oh, you're going to make me go?

He's on his phone. Yeah, it's like, we're asking our son to go to grandparents' house. I don't want to go, I want to play my video games. Can you go laser tag with my friends instead? You're such a shithead. Yeah, I mean, that's not, none of that is false. I will say this, I will say this.

I did give up on the season after the Raiders game. I've been, I've been betting against them today. I just bet the under and was, you know, rooting against points and any action whatsoever. I didn't care how the game went. But I will say this, there is a winning, get in situation. If the Patriots beat the Bills, I'm all the way back in. If they lose to the Bills, but then end up in the playoffs

because the Dolphins also just suck, it's going to be hard for me to really get it together for the playoffs. That's what I'm hoping for then. You guys back into the playoffs and you hate it. And you hate every second of watching it. Cause that would just be like, we'll be playing the Chiefs Bills or,

I mean, we could beat the Bengals. We could beat the Bengals. Maybe. Bengals? They're banged up. Do you remember what happened like, how long ago was that? We beat them.

I don't know, we lost them. They fumbled in the red zone for a chance to win them. Yeah, you lost. You lost to the Bengals. You lost that game. But we almost should have won. We almost should have won. That's true.

But again, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they're going to make a run in the playoffs because Mapitrish is the offensive coordinator and they're trash. Okay, so. Again, they won the game because they got a defensive and special-themed touchdown. That's the recipe.

That's a hard recipe to repeat week after week. And if they don't get a defensive touchdown, they're not winning games. And the one part of week 18 that's going to be very difficult is the Bills will be playing for seeding. They will be playing for, even if they lose tomorrow night,

they still have an outside shot at the one seed because they beat the Chiefs. And if the Bengals lost the rabies, like the Bills will be playing everyone because they want to get that one seed. And even the two seed, you get two home playoff games guaranteed if you get to that second round.

I will give Mac Jones credit. He played pretty well. Yeah, that last drive was like a big boy drive by him. Like he, I think it was 89 yards, 11 plays. He looked like, hey, I'm actually moving forward and not with the pissy face and trying to take out people to knee. So maybe you build off that.

Couple good deep balls. Yeah. He deserves credit when he plays well and he played well in that last drive to win the game. I do feel bad for Dolphins fans because you've been- So they're playing against Teddy Bridgewater and then whoever, Skyler Thompson?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like the Dolphins have been snake bit. It's not their fault. Like two of us started to develop, I think, concussion syndromes on Monday when they were watching film and he couldn't remember some of the plays. So that's why-

Were they watching McGrubber again? They were watching McGrubber and he was like, wait, did he shoot already in the graveyard? No, he probably was watching McGrubber. It was like, I feel like I've seen this movie before, but maybe not. It was really concussed the last time. What it was is they were watching it

and then Mike McDaniel looked over and was like, you're not laughing as hard as you did last time. What's up with that? You laughed at every scene. He's like, yeah, I don't know, coach. It's not as funny, I guess, when his wife dies. But I do feel bad for Dolphins fans. They've had very bad luck at quarterback.

Spready Bridgewater did cover on the road though. He did. So he builds off that, which is nice. That's a fact. Sorry, Hank, he covered your face. And then Jake, you still have your opportunity to come in and what did you say, eliminate? Well, the Jets are already eliminated.

Yeah. So we can't eliminate them. But you can double eliminate them. Yeah, you can double eliminate them. Yeah, I guess. Because they can eliminate you. Yeah, that's true. So you need to stave off the elimination.

Yeah, double eliminate them. Yeah. This couch is a disgrace to football. Well, it's good that it's good that no one on this couch said at any point during this season, I feel bad for you guys talking about our teams. Yeah. That's, thank God, that didn't happen.

That is very, very, very embarrassing. Yeah, so this game, this game means more after what happened in early October at MetLife. Yeah, the fingers. The fingers. The revenge finger game. But he's doing it again. Wait, don't say that.

That way. He's doing it. He's doing it. The fingers. Yeah, the Patriots defense is still very good. They score every single game, it feels like. The game flipped on that pick six. They just, whenever they need a big play, it's like, all right,

our defense just got to drop the touchdown play. Right, that's the recipe for success. Right, so you win games like that, win them ugly. Yeah, I hate you so much. You don't even like this. So next weekend, week 18, are you rooting for them to win that game? Yes.

OK. Am I expecting them to win that game? No. No. But if they do win, I'll be, you'll see it new me. You'll see. Are you putting the best back on? Yes, playoff vest.

Oh, man. It's a playoff vest. But if they lose it. But I will not wear it if it's a back-in loss, lose by 20, and then the fucking dolphins are a joke, so they lose too when we get in. Yeah, so if you lose next weekend, get into the playoffs, and then in the first round,

you're not even going to be rooting for the Patriots, it sounds like, unless it's a bangles. If we beat the bills. It's back on. We got momentum. Loading up the clip. Yeah. Yeah, you're ready to go.

Get hot at the right time. Right. That would be getting hot at the right time. So, it's, that's, that's, it's one or the other. OK, OK, that's, I was going to say that's fair, but it's not fair. None of this is fair. It's bullshit.

We're sitting here and you're not, everyone else just got eliminated today. It was literally elimination Sunday. So let's talk about the next game. Brown's 24, Commander's 10. Because the Packers won, and this Commander's lost, the commanders have officially been eliminated from postseason participation.

Carson Wentz, I feel bad PFT because that, that sucked. And I'll let you just take the floor because that sucked. Yeah, I've got a couple ideas of why Carson Wentz played. I touched on them last week, but I, in my opinion, anybody that watches football knows that Carson Wentz sucks at playing football. Anyone that watches football sees Taylor how to keep play football thinks, hey, this guy sucks

sometimes, and he's good sometimes. He's fun. So which quarterback would you rather have? The quarterback that just is a big pile of stinking shit or the quarterback that sometimes has flowers growing out of that shit? I would take Taylor Heineke on that one. Taylor Heineke is fun.

His team loves him. You could tell. Here's, here's when I knew that we were fucked. Well, probably after Carson Wentz threw the first interception of the game in like the first 16 seconds. But after that, I knew we were fucked because Chase Young, who's been the best cheerleader that we've

had on the sidelines this year, gets fucking hyped for Taylor Heineke. He goes up behind Taylor Heineke. He points at his jersey. He like slaps him in the face. Like treats him like a dog that he loves, you know? Like his favorite dog. He sees Carson Wentz.

He walks out on the field and is telling Carson Wentz, like, hey, please, we need you. Believe in yourself, Carson. I want you to know that I need you to trust yourself. Pleading with him. He's begging him to believe in himself. And at that point, I was like, OK, this game's over. And Ron Rivera apparently didn't know

that if the Packers beat the Vikings later on the day, that that would eliminate us from the playoffs. And that's why he chose to start Carson Wentz. If that's true, it's one of two things. Either Ron Rivera is trying to get fired by saying he didn't know that. Or he should be fired if he didn't know that. Those are really the only two options.

And I think that he started Carson because my guess is Dan Snyder doesn't want to pay Taylor Heinecke winning bonuses. And he's paying his favorite toy that they hadn't selected this offseason, $20-some million per game, and doesn't want to see him on the sidelines. I honestly, so you're probably right. But I also think Riverboat Ron, the Riverboat gambler,

because I had this happen to me this morning. And it's something that everyone has to go through. And people have gotten out of their system, not gotten out of their system. I still woke up this morning. I was like, Carson Wentz, there's still that dude in him. And I took the over in this game because I was like, he's going to ball out.

I said he was going to ball out. I think Ron Rivera just has that where he looked at it. He's like, I know what Taylor Heinecke is. We haven't won in three games straight. We went tie, loss, loss. Carson Wentz did get those two MVP votes. He probably had that same thought in his head where he's like, what if?

Yeah, that's it. What if he just fucking goes nuclear and we get old Carson Wentz, and now we're a serious threat in the playoffs. I've seen enough Carson Wentz. I've seen a Carson Wentz football for a lifetime. I'm out. That was the last one. This was the last one for me.

I actually thought he was. I didn't bet the commanders. That would have been stupid, but I bet the over thing. He'd ball out. I'm out. Fully out 100% out on Carson Wentz. I said during the game that they should just throw him into the ocean next to Osama bin Laden's family.

That was a little, I think I went a little too far. No, barely. Not far enough. Barely. Not far enough. Jake shook his head. No, you don't think they should do that, Jake? No, Jake doesn't think you went too far.

OK, got you. No, no, no. They should not do that. Throw him into the Potomac River. Yeah. And then rescue him after like 30 seconds. He gets really cold. What happens to Carson Wentz now?

Because he's, by all accounts, let's just put it mildly. He's not, doesn't seem like the best teammate. Doesn't feel like a guy that people like to be around. And this is all conjecture. Maybe he's the coolest guy in the world. Yeah. But he's rad. The one thing that happens with quarterbacks

is if you are a guy who everyone likes and can help with other, the younger guys, you can have a long, long career as a backup. Is Carson Wentz not going to be in the lead in a couple of years? I don't think he even likes playing football. If you watch him during the games, he's just like, he's got, we are body language experts. He looks like he would be, rather be anywhere else

in the world. He's like, he probably wishes he was at a Mike Trout game watching Mike Trout play baseball. Well, Mike Trout wishes he was at a game watching Carson Wentz. Yeah, you're right. But he probably would rather be hunting. Yeah. He's probably just saying, good, go hunt.

Good, have fun. Actually, I don't think that the world is ready from a sheer population standpoint for Carson Wentz to be duck hunting full time. I don't think we have enough ducks. He's going to, if he is not in the league in a year or two, it will be such a fascinating, well, I guess it's not a what if because we know what happened.

But it's more of a holy shit. Imagine telling yourself, this guy, I mean, Max, if he's not in the league next year, did you imagine telling 2017 Max that Carson Wentz would be out of the league, not by injury? I was the biggest Carson Wentz guy in the history of the planet. Yeah. But, and I was even saying that to you, I was like,

2017 could come back. Exactly. That's why I kept, yeah. If I, when I have to lie to myself, I just say he got two MVP votes in 2017. He could turn back to that guy. Nope. Now, go off, go spend all your time on like a prairie in North Dakota, Pheasant High, go be the Stalin of ducks

and commit mass genocide against every bird. He's made $120,000, sorry, million dollars, $128 million. He's got still $60 million left to make. I think that if he gets cut, that probably all goes away. $120 million, just go away, Carson. It just sucks because all the fans wanted Heinecke today. You heard him chanting at the game for Heinecke.

I wanted Heinecke. I think most people that have watched this team play know that with Taylor, it's not just about the actual stats that he contributes because he does make some stupid plays sometimes. He doesn't really blow your socks off with having like 500 yard passing games or 400 yard passing games, but the rest of the team

just plays a little bit differently when he's in there. It's like they actually believe that they can do something with Carson in the game. It's just like, I think they're afraid of getting Carson hurt because he's such a spaz in the pocket sometimes. Even the last drive that they were trying to score on and it was like false start, Carson Wentz just like running around, circling around into a sack.

It was just all so sad. You see, he put his entire body into one of those throws down field where he jumped off both of his feet forward and he couldn't get, he still has a good arm, which is that's the only reason I think that maybe there'll be another team bring him in as a backup because he's still, if you just get him in shorts and let him go home.

See, no, you're doing it yourself again. Don't do this. Don't do this. Let's be done with it. He was picket, he was picked second overall in the draft. He's got a gigantic arm. He's still fast when he runs. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't do it. A team will see that and they'll be like, I don't know. 2017. I actually think that there's a chance he might not be on a team next year. Imagine him play, okay, let me ask you this. Here's the real question.

Imagine Carson Wentz playing for the 49ers in Couch and Hands Off. I still think he'd like shit. Would he look like dog shit then? Yes, because he would still be turning around and they just showed on Sunday football big Ben when he had the broken nose with the blood coming out. Such an awesome picture.

I think he might, I think he would get confused in that offense. Yeah, no, he would get dizzy. I actually, yeah, I think there's a decent chance he's not, because for him to be on a team next year, you wouldn't bring him in as a backup. You'd bring him in as a starter and who's going to actually say

we're starting the season. The best chance he has is the commanders. I was actually going to say, the best chance that he has is the Colts. Yeah, no, no. And he burned that bridge already. You should just go back and forth between the Colts and commanders.

Yes, I mean, listen, I know where I am in my life rooting for this franchise. And he is, yes, it makes all the sense in the world for him to be on the commanders or the Colts. Yeah, I think you might just stay with, yeah. I think, I just pray to God that doesn't happen. Oh man, yeah, it's a bummer, it's a bummer. And so you're eliminated.

It sucks. I wanted to see Taylor Heineke in the seventh seed. It would have been fun. It was, it's just a bummer. I can't believe they ruined Major Hog Day. Yeah. We unveiled our new mascot, Major Tutti, the hog. I like the hog.

I do too. I think the hog works as a mascot. It's better than the alternative. They were going to give us like a police dog as our mascot. You should have been the red hogs. Yeah, we should have been the red hogs, the hogs, a nod to the former offense alignment. It's a cool mascot, except if you're losing

and you're losing as pathetic. At halftime of the Carson-Wintz game, where he already has two interceptions and we're up seven, three at half, even though we've sacked Sean Watson four times and he's three of eight for 23 yards. At halftime of that depressing game, it's not the best time to like roll a cartoon pig

out onto the field and be like, clap for this. Well, it's also the hogs like dressing up in dresses with pig noses works when you are bullying the other team with your offensive line. When you have Carson-Wintz, you're just kind of looking at it like this is kind of fucked up. It's kind of sad. Yeah, when your team's bad, you start to realize,

wait a second, I'm wearing a dress because I want the offensive line to fuck me. Yeah, right, right. Wait, that doesn't make a lot of sense. And a pig nose. But if you're like mauling people, you're like, fuck yeah, I'm wearing this dress because they can fuck me. Yeah, we're men.

Yeah, this is what we do. I'm such a masculine dude that I would fuck our offensive line. Yes, exactly. For the Browns, Sean Watson actually, I think looked decent in the second half. He was nine for 18, but he had a few nice plays with his feet.

He ran around a little bit. Yeah, Mari Cooper had, Mari Cooper's still good. So I guess if you're a Browns fan, you're like, hey, maybe that's what it will look like next year a little bit. Yeah, I mean, Nick Chubb was awesome again. Yeah, and their defense, I mean, it's more Carson-Wintz, but their defense was very good. Their defense was decent.

They weren't like a complete atrocity in terms of stopping the run. Although Robinson had, he broke a couple of nice ones and just kind of softened them up. Yeah, that's the thing with Carson-Wintz. Yeah, with Robinson, he's going to give you like, I don't know, I'd say 75% of his carries are just meant to hit you in the face

and make you not want to tackle him again. And then he'll break it out again. He's basically when you have to loosen a jar for some. When you can't open a jar, you're like, well, I loosened it. He loosens the jar. If we get like a small, like a five-six, deuce-vaughn type guy, and then you get a little thunder and lightning,

a little eat and run going. Darren Sprouls could still get a hundred easy. Yeah. Easy in any offense. Okay, so, Commander's eliminated, sorry, PFT. I do feel bad. I mean, I would shut the fuck up, Hank. I was hoping that I was going to get at least one more week. I do.

Shut, yo, seriously. I really do. Max, turn his mic off, please. Thank you. He can't, he should. All right, new studio in Chicago. We're going to have a mute button for Hank that I get to control.

This is like the gone fishing. It's like Tony Reales. Yeah, exactly. I only have one of them. It's for that motherfucker in the corner. This is the gone fishing for TNT when teams get eliminated. I've been standing on the boat

waiting for someone to join me. And PFT and Billy join me today, and Hank is just sitting there like laughing at us. Well, the real, like trying. I'm like, yo, that looks fun. Yeah, you want to be on the boat. You're like, let's go fishing. Like I literally want to go fishing.

I want a vacation. I want a vacation. I want a golf, you know, a hundred holes. It just. Over the Arizona Bowl weekend. I want, I want to do this. It just hurt so much more that Kirk Cousins once again

eliminated me from the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. When I, when I believed in him. Yeah. Which we should have. No one should have. That was such a big mistake on my part.

Yeah. Such, I will not make it again. Never, ever, ever. I will not. Jake remind me, do not trust Kirk Cousins. Don't believe his lies. We'll talk about that game later, but. What?

Wild card weekend. And Carson Wentz, 2017 Carson Wentz is never coming back. Maybe just send me that email every day. Every Sunday morning next year, send me an email. If he's on a roster, if he's starting, I need a text message every Sunday morning. If he's starting saying to that,

just a reminder, 2017 Carson Wentz is never, he's not that guy pal. Max, can you just explain to me what happened in 2017? He was so good. What was it about Wentz that made him so great? And watching him then compared to the player that he is now, is it like, is it all in his head?

Is it Doug Peterson? No, it's a thousand, he is a mental, massive pussy. You were like, how could I not be offensive? Oh, let me go this way. The thing is, that is like the Philadelphia way of toning it down. Yeah, you just, you just cleaned it up. But that was a classy way to.

But it's true. I think like, like high school Max probably would have dropped a hard app right there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was very funny, that was very funny. But yeah, I mean, he's just a completely different guy. He was the best. He would get out of everything

and then throw an absolute dine 60 yards. And everyone loved him. And then he got hurt. That Rams game, right? He started motherfucking everyone because he wasn't playing and he was upset. And then everyone started to hate him. And then that was it.

And then Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. And then Nick Foles won a Super Bowl and he was upset about it. And now you see what happened. I actually think that Nick Foles happened to Carson Wentz. Yeah. Because the guy that you were better than came in, took your job, played better than you.

And he's probably got a much bigger. He got cucked. And so when you just get cucked with a bull like that, you're never coming back. I bet you there was a moment when Nick Foles took over, won the Super Bowl the next year. After everything that happened, I bet you Carson Wentz's wife, like one night,

was just like, why is everyone calling him BDN? And he had to explain it. And then there was like a little look in her eye and then he's like, I fucking hate everyone. I hate the world. Like, well, he's got a huge hog. He got joker-fied. And she's like, how big?

He turned into, he turned into Joaquin Phoenix. He did. Just because Nick Foles has a huge dick and won a Super Bowl. Yeah. That was it. It was villain origin story. Then he danced down the stairs

at the Philadelphia Art Museum. And now we have to deal with his. That's what's ruining. Now he's ruining my life. He needs to go to therapy just to have it all, just talking about Nick Foles and what he did. He became an incel involuntarily because anyone that he almost fucked

was like, wait, I'd rather be fucking Nick Foles. Yeah, exactly. Whoa, something just fell. We're gonna say Bill. Hey, do you want to maybe put your feet off the desk and stop spilling stuff over there in the studio? Thanks. All right, we're gonna say professional.

The duck killing just didn't scratch the itch anymore. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. You want something more dangerous. All right. Next up, Giants 38 Colts 10. I could see Carson One's committing murder.

Yes. A franchise. To me. Yeah, multiple. Giants 38 Colts 10. Brian Dabel is coach of the year. He's getting my official vote. I have a lot of backup votes.

I think he's coached the year. The New York Giants, excuse me, are in the playoffs for the first time since 2016. The boat curse has officially been erased. They have been so bad since that last time they went into playoffs. This team is pretty much the same team as it was last year, except the coach is different

and he's gotten so much out of these guys. Daniel Jones, the story got reported before the game that the Giants are looking to re-sign Daniel Jones and Saquon. I think at this point, it makes sense. Reward them. Right. We talked about, I can't remember,

last week or the week before. I still don't think you should pay Daniel Jones a ton of money, but Daniel Jones might say to himself as well, like, I know this is the best spot for me. Brian Dabel has reinvigorated my entire career. Why wouldn't I take a little bit less than I could if I went to some team that is not gonna set me up? So I'm just impressed by the Giants.

Like, what a year. Incredible. And of course, the lasting image of the game was Kevon Thibodeau doing Snow Angels, literally next to Nick Foles' dead body as he was writhing in pain, just an all-time clip. He has to have not known. I would know he did.

He definitely didn't know. He definitely didn't know. Even though he was almost touching him. I would like to just make a motion to ban Snow Angels when there's nothing to do Snow Angels in. Yeah. You should not be able to do it if it's just astroturf or field turf.

There should actually be something like Confetti, that plays, that always plays. If it's snow, if it's grapple, if it's ice, do Snow Angels. It was actually almost nice of him to do that though because Nick Foles, it was so hard to watch Nick Foles play football these last two weeks. It was. He was like doing it in his blood on the field.

It was tough to watch. I think that I've gained a newfound respect for Daniel Jones. Yes. And I realized why I did, because it's a matter of perspective when you look at Daniel Jones. If you look at Daniel Jones and you keep thinking to yourself,

we drafted this guy to replace Eli Manning. We're waiting for him to be Eli Manning. You're never gonna be happy with him. He's not gonna be that type of player. If you think of him as like a super powered Tasem Hill, he's an awesome player. He's like the way that he's running with the ball now, the offense that they've got him in with Kafka,

is Kafka, right? Yeah, yeah. They've actually metamorphosized Daniel Jones into being like a super charged Tasem Hill where he's dynamic with his feet and he's fun to watch. And when he does, you see it with running quarterbacks all the time,

but like when he's running the ball, he opens things up and makes a passing game easier for himself based off that. Yes, yes. And he had two touchdowns running, two touchdowns throwing. He's fun to watch. Yeah.

The Giants, I actually, I wouldn't count them out against pretty much anyone in the first round. They are, it feels like every game, as long as they don't go down say 14, they're not built for that. But if they keep a game within one possession, it feels like every Giants game goes that way

where it's like, keep them around, keep them around and then win the fourth quarter. Yeah, the Giants might be the team. Obviously today was different. Like you don't want to play the Giants. Yeah. Hank, I do have something to help your demented Cowboys One Seed troll of Max.

Not a troll. Okay, here it is. So the Giants were watching. I saw this by the way before the same game started. That's true. So even more demented. The Giants are locked into the six seed. So they can't do anything about it, right?

Is that, that's correct. I got, I got the playoff machine. I think they're completely locked in the six seed because it's gonna be Green Bay, Detroit or Seattle that rounds out the seventh. They are locked in. They were most likely gonna arrest their starters. The only reason I say most likely 2007,

Hank, if you remember, the Giants played the Patriots week 17. They were locked into the playoffs already. They played them tough. They started everyone. They almost beat them. Then they met them in the Super Bowl. Is there a chance that Brian Dable is like,

we could put, if we go on a run here, we could play the Eagles again. Should we see if we can match up against them? Makes a lot of sense. I'm just throwing that out there. I think it's more like. And they have to play the week after anyway. Like you want to have them.

I know that would be more of a reason to take the rest. Yeah. No, no, that's completely opposite. Because if I'm the Giants. Yes, no, complete. If I'm the Giants. This is their bi-week. Rest first, rust.

Two strong things. You've got one, you don't want to get anyone injured because you have a game that means something next week. And then two, yeah, you don't want to show the Eagles all the tricks you've got up your sleeve either. Or do you want to try to fight them really close and be like, we can beat these guys. Because they get killed by the Eagles

earlier this season. You know what, there is precedent here with the Giants playing in a meaningless game against Hank's Patriots back in the day. That's what I'm saying. During the undefeated season. That's what I just said. Oh, OK, sorry.

Yeah, I was looking at the 7-6 seed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We brought that up. Factor fiction, there is love lost between these teams. No love lost. I think there's a little love lost. Fiction. Yeah, it's fiction.

Between the Eagles and the Giants. Another reason to try and win. I think the Giants and the Eagles both hate the Cowboys more. Well, you want no love lost. Right. Yeah, there's no love lost. Correct. Right.

There's one other thing that scares me a little bit was Hertz's rookie year when he got put in week 17 playing against the Washington Redskins. The Giants needed the Eagles to beat the Redskins. And they benched Hertz in the second half. Although, that was obviously wasn't Brian Dables team. But yeah. But I don't know, still I still have Giants fans

like super upset. That was the Nate Sudfield game because Nate Sudfield came out. What a second half that was. Oh, my god. OK, now Demented Hank is actually starting to make some sense. No, Hank's very wrong about this. The Giants, it looks like they're probably going to be playing the Vikings in the first round

of the playoffs because if the Vikings win next week, they're playing against the Bears. Yeah. They're probably going to win that game. They have to win. And then the 49ers are playing at home against the Cardinals. You have to assume that the Niners win that game too. That would line us up with Giants Vikings first round.

Just played a three point game. Just played a three point game. And that was what I was saying, though, when you were looking up that the Giants, if you're Brian Dable, if you win, I guess if they win this game, or they play close in this game and the Eagles end up winning, they would play the Eagles in the second round, most likely. Right?

So why not prove it to your guys that they're not that much better than you? Because they were that much better than you when you played the Metal Lance earlier in the season. As for the Colts, I would just say, remember when the Colts beat the Chiefs week three? Yeah, that was sick. I know the Sun beat the Chiefs.

Remember that? Yeah, the Sun beat the Chiefs. This is the season from hell for the Colts. It could not have. Everything is unraveled. I guess it's nice that they don't have a decision to make with the coach. We're just going to find a real coach, maybe.

I don't know. I wouldn't put anything past Mr. Erse. I want to know what happened at halftime of that game. If I were a Colts fan, I would be very upset if, obviously, I think Jim Erse is not going to be coached. I think it's going to be a situation where he's probably going to say to Jim Erse, it's not for me. If Chris Ballard keeps his job, though,

because this Colts roster is just falling apart, and they haven't been able to get the QB right, I don't know how he still has a job. So it makes no sense. The Colts feel like they have to reset everything when they go back to last year. Remember, going into the stretch run, the Colts were the hottest team, and everyone said,

watch out for the Colts, and they lose to the Jaguars, and Carson Wentz thing falls apart. It feels like they've been on the precipice, even with Phil Rivers, when they went to Buffalo and almost beat the Bills and the playoffs. And now they have to just reset everything. So I think if Chris Ballard tries to keep his job, or any aspiring GM on the Colts, they're

going to tell Jim Erse that we're not that far off. And you could make the argument, if you just look at, they've got a great running back. They beat the Chiefs. On paper, they should have a good offensive line. They beat the Chiefs this year. They're pretty good, ever heard of them? They were kicking the shit out of the Vikings at halftime.

So what changed after that? I want an investigation. I want to know how it's possible that the Colts have gotten this bad since halftime of that game against the Minnesota Vikings. What was the speech like? At one point this season, they were three, two, and one. Yeah.

They were a team that was looking like they could compete for the AFC South. And it's completely fallen apart. Yeah, the Vikings' loss is actually a historical loss. They got absolutely pounded by the Cowboys, pounded today. It's just a bad, bad scene. How bad have they been outscored since that halftime? Jake, can you look that up?

So if you look at today's game, the game against the Cowboys and then halftime from that point on against the Vikings, just off the top of my head, I would get something like 80 to 10 or 90 to 10. Yeah, I mean, they lost by 17 to the Chargers. They lost by 28 today. And the Cowboys, that was an absolute rubbing. It's just a shit show.

An absolute shit show. OK, but they did beat the Chiefs week three. Hang the banner. They actually might hang that banner. That's the one franchise that would probably do it. OK, so next up, Max, turn your camera on. Saints 20, Eagles 10. I'm officially worried.

Yeah. Max, NFL rigged. That holding call and that pancake block. NFL rigged. We just horrible. You would have won this game. Heard Max from the other room just, yo, that was a pancake. And then we made him come and sit with us for the rest of the game.

I'm worried. We've got to get healthy. We've got to get healthy. You've got to win week 18, buddy. You told me you were healthy, Max. No, you don't got to get healthy. You've got to win. No, I thought we were good.

I thought you said you said there are reports that Jalen Hurts is going to play. Confirmed. You said confirmed. I know. I said, yeah. Lane Johnson was confirmed for the playoffs is what I said. Right.

Because he doesn't. He's opting not to get surgery. Correct. Like a legend. Fuck yeah. And then you told me Jalen Hurts was going to play. I don't think I ever said that. Do you know what would help?

You know what would help with getting healthy is winning the fucking NFC. Yeah, I know. And maybe if Gardner Minchu didn't suck in the fourth quarter, then it could have happened. I actually think here's my hot take of the day. Jalen Hurts should be the MVP because of what we've seen from Gardner Minchu.

There's a lot of quotes that are looking really bad. Like anyone can run this offense. Yeah. Even though Jalen Hurts is most likely not going to play the last three games of the season. Give them the MVP because the debate is always if you took this guy off the team, what would they look like? Well, now we know 13 and 1, 0 and 2.

Yeah. I think fights tweeted about this last week when the pictures of Gardner Minchu walking into the stadium started to go around. They say Gardner Minchu probably leads the league and people tweeting a picture of him on that entrance stroll and saying Eagles buy a million. It is true.

You want to bet on the Eagles when you see Gardner Minchu. I love him. I love him too. He's a fun player to watch. Well, he hasn't been fun this year though. I don't know what it is about the offense. He doesn't seem like himself. He's not the Gardner Minchu that we fell in love with.

Yeah. He's not. And I'm officially worried. Yeah, the locker room. AJ Brown was basically trashing Gardner Minchu in the locker room after the game. He was fucked. You motherfucker.

I want to meet you. My hate for Hank has gone up with this Eagles future. I have. Because I see what he tries to do to you. He's the worst. I hate everything about him. But yeah, I think AJ Brown was like, yeah, he just had one read.

And he was throwing it to me no matter what. And that's what happens in the NFL. And it's just like, it's true. But I don't know. Jalen Hertz MVP. You want to say that. Jalen Hertz. He'll be back for Sunday though.

I don't know. He'll be back for the playoffs. Confirmed. Even if it's that you don't get a buy. You have to get a buy. It's 14 point favorites. That was such a sad way to say that. It's 14 point favorites, dad.

Yeah, yeah, it's 14 point favorites. You guys are going to get the one seat. Have to. Yeah, I have to. I wouldn't worry about that. Stop fucking smiling. Don't get in the fucking smile. It's a contentious show.

I mean, Hank's going to have to put the Giants in the hungry dog. If you want that Gigi Plus sign. Absolutely. It might just be the Giants. Yeah, a hungry dog of one. A lone wolf, a hungry wolf. Jake just texted, thank you, Jake. Colts have been outscored 97 to 16

since that half time against the Vikings. Oh my god. Just an absolute shit show. I'm worried. That's all I'm going to say. This whole Eagles thing was based on them getting that one seat. They need to get the one seat. Things still could be fine.

Right now, the defense stepped up in the second half, which was big. Yeah, they need to be in sacks. That was my biggest worry. Watching the first half was, holy shit, this defense has gone to absolute shit. But then they played really well in the second half. Max, in the first half, I would be concerned about the offense

in the first half. Yeah, but it. I don't think Devontae Smith, Goddard or Brown had a catch until the very end of the first half. First Gardner-Minshaw. But it's Gardner-Minshaw, and it's not Lane Johnson. So you kind of have to take the offense with a little bit of a grain of salt.

The defense, I do think Gardner-Johnson is going to be back. I don't know why, I don't know if you saw something. No, he was just saying that, based on your track record of saying that Eagles players are coming back, he might not be able. I thought I was looking up. I was like, fuck, did I miss something? No, I'm just saying that if they want to beat the box, that's the key.

Yeah, you guys should have just not tried against the Cowboys, not gotten injured, and then gotten the one seed this week, and everything would have been better. Max Counterpoint, home playoff game, the link. But they don't have it yet. Yeah. No, but I'm saying, at least in the first round of the playoffs.

No. No, they would go to the fifth. No. The whole thing. Stop, stop. The whole thing. That was messed up by you. That was gross what you just did right there.

You knew that. No, like, did you know that? No, they're the one seed. But you knew that they would go from one to five. They're the one seed. It's OK. They've been the one seed the entire season. Not to make it worse, because I'm on your team here, Max,

but the Saints, winning this game, you have their pick. It now, they went from the ninth pick to the 11th pick. But so it's not terrible what happened today. But if they win in week 18, your pick from them could be somewhere around 15, which it would have been, like, top seven pick if you had beaten them today, and then they lost in week 18. Yeah, that's not great.

I'm not worried about the pick right now. But I'm just saying that that did happen. That did happen. Because I'm not going to be an Eagles fan next year. No, correct. That does suck. Whatever. We just have to win next week.

I don't care about the pick right now. We're win now. We're win now right now. OK, win now. What do you think the spread is going to be for the Cowboys Commanders game next week? Because I was going to say, you could trust maybe the Commanders could pull something off.

What if 2017 Carson Wentz comes back? Yeah, that's what you need. Max, that's what you need. You need it. You need MVP Carson Wentz to come out, beat the Cowboys next week. I was thinking this earlier. Wentz is so bad now that I don't even. Do you see his arm, though?

Yeah. His arm on that pass? Like, I don't even think Eagles fans dislike Wentz anymore. No. He's so bad that it's just that it's just. And you got your Super Bowl. Yeah. But like, no, there was still like a point when he came back

and was so bad and was acting like shit that he was like the most hated guy in Philadelphia. Now it's kind of like, oh, who cares? He's so, so bad. But he could also save your ass. Yeah, would love it. I'm down to root for Carson Wentz. Because things ended up so poorly in Philadelphia,

Carson Wentz might just not want to save your ass. Mm. Yeah. Well, that's true. He might throw the game. Oh, no. Carson Wentz might go after and throw three interceptions. If he tried to throw the game, he would play the game of his life.

It'd be like trying to fade yourself. The Saints, by the way, I would put them in the known would have wanted to play them if they had made the playoffs. Because they actually have played the last four games, the three and one, and the one loss being that Monday night game against Tom Brady. I don't know. Every time I watch the Saints game, like they have some guys,

their defense has some grit to it. I would have put them in the nobody wants to watch them play in the playoff. That too. That would have been a classic Andy Dalton early Saturday playoff game. Barry is asked there. That's where he's the most comfortable.

But yes, the Saints are maybe they might be the most boring decent team in the NFL. Yes. Because your defense, you're right. Their defense is pretty good. And they have some offensive players that when Andy Dalton is playing decent, they look like a competent team.

They're mixing into some hell. I think that's a franchise. I think as a franchise, the Saints are well run enough to even when they're at their most boring, most depressing, they're still going to hover around 500. Yeah. Shout out to Breeze for getting them to that spot. And also that we can't produce LSU tomorrow.

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OK. Chiefs, 27, Barakos, 24. Shout out Russ Wilson. And also, what's his name? Rossper? Yeah, Rossper. Jeff Rossper. Jerry Ross.

Jerry Rossper. The Barakos actually did, their offense looked somewhat competent today. Yeah, Russ was running the ball. Running, play action, all these things that Nathaniel Hackett will stop make fun of him anymore because he's just gone. But it probably would have sucked to watch it if you're him. And be like, wait, we were able to,

Russ was able to run? My big question is, do you think Nathaniel Hackett watched this game? I don't think they did. I don't think so. I think he probably went on a hike somewhere. Yeah. Probably had some cardboard boxes in his house.

He had to fill with dishes. He probably just watched what's it called? Awesome Powers. Yeah, awesome powers that movie, yeah. Over and over and over. Our Patch Adams. Just to laugh about it. Yeah, he already watched the Packers game today.

He might have watched the Packers game. And just like, what if? Just imagine himself on the sidelines. Yeah. I missed that. Yeah, but I mean, Russell Wilson looked good. He was running hard. He was running fast.

And he wasn't doing that for Nathaniel Hackett. Whether that was by design or whether that was Russell Wilson just not wanting to initiate contact. But I feel like what happened this week, where Bronco's players went to bat for him, it made Russell Wilson, actually, he needed that to now want to go out there and lay it all out on the line and sacrifice his body to a certain extent to help the team win.

I actually think that Russell Wilson, watching the post game, he was genuinely showing emotion, like kind of teary-eyed, talking about his teammates having his back. I think he officially hit rock bottom. And he's now coming back. The internet has been mean to him. We've been mean to him. The world's been mean to him.

Subway's been mean to him. Deservedly so for a lot of the things he's done. Subway held on to Jared longer than they held on to Russell Wilson. You're like, wait till all the facts come out. I'm Jared. But I do think he hit rock bottom. And he is kind of auditioning for next year,

because it's not totally off the table that the Bronx be like, we can't do this. So it was good that he played better. And the Chiefs, the Chiefs are just, I don't know if Chiefs fans, I'd love to hear from them if they're a little nervous going into the Playhouse, because the record is obviously incredible. They keep winning games.

But the small stuff has to bother them. Like Kaderious Tony dropped another punt today. They, I think they missed an extra point. Mahomes had a red zone interception. They've just had these teams hanging around. And when you play a Playoff team, like if you play the Bills or the Bengals and you make these small mistakes,

that's the difference in a Playoff. Hasn't Harrison Bucker missed like six extra points this season? Andy, I think it was like a 50. Yeah, he missed an extra point. He's missed a bunch from me. He missed a 50 plus yarder. He's weird because like he's usually pretty good from like 40 and beyond.

And when I say beyond, I mean to like 60. He's a good long distance kicker. At least he has been in the past. But this year he just, it's him and Evan McPherson kind of stinks at extra points now too. Yes. On the Bengals, it's weird. But I think with the Chiefs, they're kind of a,

my predictions is Chiefs fans are just thinking, we'll just smash the Playoff button. Right. And once we get there, we're going to be the Chiefs again. The only thing that would scare me, because you do have Patrick Mahomes say, well, we have Patrick Mahomes, don't worry about it, which I agree with because he is that special.

But I always am concerned when you have the little special teams things, I feel like special teams always decide these Playoff games because it's a game on the margins. And it's like one mistake, you know, we saw it with the Packers last year. Remember when, when the Giants and 49ers, that NFC championship game, and I think it was Kyle Williams,

fumbled all those punts, like the little things that are off, Cody Parky, little things that are off, always end up showing up in the playoffs. So I don't know, maybe Chiefs fans don't, aren't worried about this because like you said, the smash the Playoff button, but they've played. So they lost the Bengals by three. They played the Broncos in mile high, they won by six.

They had to go to overtime against the Texans. They smashed the Seahawks and then they won by three today. And they're dominating the games on the stat sheet, like that Texans game, they doubled their yardage, but the little mistakes will bite them in the ass once they get to the playoffs. There are special teams coordinator, Dave Tube. Yeah, Tobi, Dave Tobi.

Legend. So he's the kind of guy that I think would probably, if he sees Tony fucking up, he's probably just gonna bench Tony. Or just don't return any punks. Cause he's like the best special teams coordinator in the history of the NFL. Right.

So I think the little things, at least in the, the special teams part of the game will probably get cleared up. Or there's reason to believe that they'll get cleared up if you're a Chiefs fan. And then on offense, it's Andy Reed. It's Patrick Mahomes. They've been there before.

Although they did point it out. Matt Nagy, just a great staff. It was pointed out earlier today that Patrick Mahomes has never won a road playoff game. Crazy. So because he's always had home field. He's never played a home road playoff game. He's never played in a road playoff game.

But we don't know if he can go on the road and do it. He actually, he hasn't really proven anything in this league. He hasn't. Cause winning on the road in the playoffs is the hardest thing you can do. Patrick Mahomes has had everything handed to him in this league. He's had it too easy.

I just, I don't know. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe Chiefs fans feel totally different. But when you, when you're playing these games and they just, they haven't like put anyone away. I guess they did the Seahawks. Yeah, they did put Chiefs Aholic away. Police did Oklahoma police shout out.

Shout out. Poison blue. I don't know, they're playing with fire. One note that is doesn't have anything to do with this game. I didn't realize that the draft this year is in Kansas City. So that's going to suck for me. Cause they're just going to, it's going to be all stories about Mahomes draft and how it changed everything.

It will. I do like the draft goes to different places. I like it too. It's a traveling carnival at this point. Patrick Mahomes completed a pass to himself in today's game. The Brett Farr. I have a prediction. If it hasn't happened yet, cause I didn't look this up.

Patrick Mahomes is going to throw a touchdown to himself at some point. I would, I would think so. Without a table. Did Marriota do that? He did. He did that. Brett Farr's first completion was to himself.

Yep. On the Falcons. I think Marriota did that against the Patriots, right? I think it was against the Chiefs. Yeah, I don't think it was Patriots. I think it was a playoff game. It was when the Chiefs came back and won that game. Oh, sorry.

When the Titans came back and won that game, right? Yeah. I don't remember if that one, it was, I believe it was against the Chiefs. I want to say Kelsey got knocked out and then the Titans came back and won that game. And I might have reversed that entire thing in my head. I'm looking it up right now.

Look it up. Look it up. This is a, this is good. He gets the Chiefs. And did they win Titans? Marcus Marriota throws a TD to himself on this crazy play. And what was the final score? I don't know.

It's a YouTube thing. Search it. Someone searched it. This is our version of making sure we don't have dementia. Can you remember this random playoff game from seven, eight years ago? 2018? Yeah, sure.

No, no, not 2018. Oh, Billy was on January 6th. Oh, yeah. Nice. Shout out. Oh, yeah. It's coming up. It's your day, yeah.

Yeah, what do you have planned? I'm going to, I'm not like government building. A little dust up. It's just, I don't know. What, what, someone give me the actual score here. Titans vs. Chiefs. 22-21 Titans. Yes, they came back.

Second half, Kelsey got knocked out. I'm pretty sure it's because I had the Chiefs. And I was like, this is bullshit. Chiefs were up 21 to three at halftime. All right, so my mind, my mind, my mind still works. And we're scoreless in the second half. And yes, because that's the year after or after, in that off season, the Bears hired Matt Nagy.

And Matt Nagy was, I think, the offensive coordinator. Yeah. So sick. No points in the second half. Travis Kelsey did get knocked out. Yep. Okay, next up, Lions 41 Bears 10. Not a lot to say about this game.

The Lions just absolutely kicked the shit out of the Bears. I want the Bears to lose. I've said this before, but wanting the Bears to lose is just the most warm, like comforting thing because they are so good at losing. So they're dominant. They're one of the best losers out there. They're really good, yeah.

I don't understand any Bears fan that doesn't want them to lose these last, this stretch run. I know that I said in October, I would like them to mix in a win. At this point, it's not to sound like make it super serious, but it does feel franchise altering if you go from the second pick to the fourth or fifth pick. Second is a big one.

And it might be the first pick if the Texans can beat the Colts next week. But it's so huge considering the fact that we just saw Bryce Young and CJ Stroud play. Everyone's gonna want a quarterback. You could get a haul for the second pick and then reload your entire defense, hopefully, because their defense was so bad today.

And Justin Fields had no time. He got sacked seven times. He's been sacked the most out of any quarterback this year. Being in the pockets actually more dangerous, Billy, for him right now. Well, didn't he have 100 yards rushing in the first quarter? Yeah. Which, I mean, again,

Justin Fields does something in the first half that makes you be like, holy shit, this is the guy. And then they lose. It's a great plan that they've got set up. They cannot win this last game. They have to lose. They have to have the first or second pick, and they have to trade it.

I think they're gonna lose. I mean, they are the New England Patriots have losing. Yeah, they're very good at losing. They know what to do. It's a dynasty. I also wouldn't hate it if Justin Fields didn't play the last game. No, this is the one that you would sit on.

He took a huge hit in this game. And I don't want anything bad to happen. So the Lions are seven and two in their last nine. Yep. As far as their offense goes, they're incredible to watch. Their defense has improved. Aidan Hutchison has three interceptions on the air. The one today was,

I don't even know what the play was. There was like four seconds left in the first half and it felt like they were doing a Hail Mary and then they didn't. He's a shut down defensive end. He is. He's a lockdown. He was against the sideline to prevent them

from running out and stopping the call. But there was not even time for that. It was kind of a crazy thing that they were even running a play. But yeah, he's been the real deal for them. And I, the one thing that would really, really suck is I think we all agree the Lions would be very fun to be in the playoffs.

If the Lions go to Green Bay and beat Green Bay, but the Seahawks also win, the Seahawks would go to the playoffs because they beat the Lions head to head. That would be the biggest bummer in terms of playoff enjoyment. If we're gonna draw it up in Lions fans, please turn this off right now.

This is what happens to the Lions. You know, they're not gonna beat Aaron Rodger. This is the most Lions thing to end the year. You're good. You're actually really good. If you get to the playoffs, you can probably win some playoff games. And then the Seahawks jump, you win your last game.

I don't even think they're gonna do that. You handle your business. And then the Seahawks get in because they win and you go home after winning a game. And no one wants to see Seahawks at the playoffs. No one wants that. But okay, Lions fans, you can listen again. This is how you know if it's brand new Lions

or if it's same old Lions. I don't think they're gonna beat Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau. He's on his fuck shit again. I don't know. I did like- I like the play that they ran today. The Bears ran today where they actually had somebody under center.

It was a tight end, came in motion, went under center. They put a tight end at quarterback and then Justin Fields in at running back. Pitched it to him and it was, I think it was a 50 yard game. Yeah, that was a sick play. Yeah, and I think those are the plays that Luke Getze has to put on paper to keep his job. Be like, hey, look, I have real plays.

We're still trying to lose, but I have real plays. I'll show you them in the first quarter and then I'm locking it down and we're not doing anything. We've got plays. Yeah, they're doing a very good job of that. Yeah, so I'm happy they lost. If you know, if you're friends with someone who's a Bears fan, if you have a family member

who's a Bears fan who thinks that they should somehow try to win week 18, you need to tell them to shut the fuck up and then they got shit for Brits. This is not, someone tried to tell me it's loser talk today. No, no, no, it's actually winner talk to try to actually set up your franchise to be in the best possible position

to get the most possible picks going forward. And they also have caps face. So I've been doing a little trade machine in my head. Maybe a swap with the Raiders. The Raiders have the ninth pick right now, I believe. Maybe a swap with the Raiders and we'll take Devante Adams off your hands. You get the second pick, we get the ninth pick.

Maybe you throw in a second round pick as well, Raiders. You get your new quarterback. We get Devante Adams. Just something I've been thinking about. It is. We just have the seventh pick. I agree that it's winner talk. It would be loser talk if you were playing against the Packers

in the last week of the season. And you had the opportunity to eliminate the Packers. Then you want to win that game. Totally different. In this case, I agree. I think it's winner talk. And not to compare myself to Jesus again, but I did kind of sacrifice myself.

I said a couple of weeks ago. You did. You did. The commanders. Credit to you. I will sacrifice the Washington commanders playoff opportunity if it means that the Lions can get in. Credit to you.

I want to see the Lions in the playoffs. I want to see Detroit enjoy themselves. So I was happy to do it. Credit to you. Back in three days. Big time credit to you. Jaguars, 31 Texans, three. We didn't watch this game.

The Jaguars are just the hottest team in the NFL right now. They've won four games in a row. Six of eight. Six of eight. They won four games in total from 2020 and 2021 seasons. They will be going for five wins in a row next weekend for the first time since 2005. Wow.

They also beat the Texans for the first time since 2017. Wow. They hadn't beaten the Texans since 2017. 2017, they also had the biggest halftime lead. They've had 21 nothing since the last time they beat the Texans in 2017. That's crazy. That division, it seems like it's filled with those types

of weird stats where the Colts don't win in Jacksonville. The Jaguars don't beat the Texans. It doesn't matter how dog shit your team is. Derek Henry runs for 200 yards every time he plays the Texans. Doesn't matter how bad your team is. You always have some weird stat in your favor in the AFC South. Yes. Yes, absolutely.

Yeah, the Jaguars, it's a great lesson in that the NFL season is long and we should never make blanket judgments in October, which we always do. But the Jaguars at the end of October were two and six off of a loss to the Denver Broncos. They were two and six heading into November off of a loss to the Denver Broncos. They've been six and two since.

They have a win and get in game against the Titans on week 18, which might be flexed, which might be flexed. No, Jake's down about that. Might not be flexed. I wouldn't want to play the Jaguars right now. No. I mean, they're hot. Jaguars.

So Trevor Lawrence is like a completely different player. And you have to play in Duvall. They're doing that thing. Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson, for whatever reason, they're just they're working together as like one person. They're sharing a brain. And Peterson's a really good fucking head coach. He's a great coach.

It's insane how I got fired. I think they're going to smoke the Titans. Yeah. I think that's going to be we're going to be jagging off in the playoffs. Yeah. Duvall, fill up the pool. Everyone put your jeans on.

We're going swimming. It's going to be great. I'm psyched. Jackson DeVille is going to be wearing a thong descending from the from the top of the rafters. Tony Kahn's going to be there. Get all the all the major Jacksonville players in town. It feels like, by the way, the Texans got the memo

that they have to lose as well today. Well, so a counterpoint to what you said earlier about like, let's go back to ourselves at the start of the year and tell ourselves that we don't know shit about the NFL. Yeah. We were dead right about the Houston. Oh, yeah. We we nailed the Houston.

Oh, they're so bad. They're very bad. And I I would like them to try hard week 18 against the Colts because that's a winnable game. But it does feel like the the tank Texans because they had those games member against the Chiefs. And oh, we've got a joint in Sunday football. A miss.

They had those games against the Chiefs and the Cowboys where they were very much in them. Someone somewhere told Lovey, hey, dude, why don't you chill out? Like, we'll give you your job next year, but you got to chill out. You got to stop with this shit. So that's the that's the question. I don't I don't think that Lovey is going to be there next year. I don't know that would be would that be back to back years?

They fired a coach one year because I think that I think they'll let him stay for one more year. I think they they just got rid of what's his face? Easterby, Resputin. Yeah. So he's out. They're going to I think let Casero run the show now. I just I could I they want to hire

Josh McCown, but they're still a year away from being a year away. But they've got draft picks. That's true. They do have draft picks. They've got draft picks. OK, we'll see. I hope that I hope they keep Lovey around to try harder next week, Texans, please. Last one of the early slate, Falcons Cardinals didn't watch a second. Had no playoff implications.

Desmond Ritter won a game. I watched a little bit because David Blau said that he was going to let it rip. Yep. So that was his pregame quote. He's like, he basically said, fuck it. This is maybe the only chance I'll ever get to start in your audition. Yeah. So in my mind, I was like, he's going to throw no fewer than three interceptions and fumble twice. Like when David Blau is letting it rip, he lets it rip.

Yeah. And so I went back, watched all the highlights of this game, of which there were more than one. OK. And David Blau played remarkably conservative and he protected the ball. Yeah. So his I think this answers the question like David Blau on on the continuum of backups between a gunslinger and game manager. He's firmly in the game manager. Yeah. Letting it rip. We know that letting it rip is like one touchdown, no interceptions.

Right. Right. Great game for David Blau. He did throw the ball 40 times. Yeah. He did let it rip. He did. He let it rip. He was safe with it. This game did not really have any true highlights. No, it was like a couple of short completions. I guess we did watch the very end. Good for Arthur Smith to win a game. Yeah. But like we said in fastest two minutes,

two most attractive coaches in the NFL. I think Arthur showed Cliff, who's boss. Yeah, he did. Arthur Smith is a hot body. Mm hmm. Cliff Kingsbury, your old news. Well, it's like you want to you want a man. Yeah. Or you want a boy. Yeah. Arthur Smith is next up in terms of hot coaches. Yeah. Like I could definitely see that being a sports illustrated cover. Maybe even maybe even the swimsuit edition.

Yeah. Cliff Kingsbury is is Instagram. Arthur Smith is linked in. Yeah, he is. He's a boss. He's a boss. All right, let's do a quick add and then we'll get to the afternoon games. These games are being brought to you by Game Time created by fans for fans. Game Time is the ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports concerts and shows. And they guarantee the lowest price.

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which would be good for your future. It would be so that everything's kind of playing out the way that I envision when I put that future down. Yeah, I saw in my mind, I saw the Ravens losing. I saw the Chargers winning out. Then the Chargers get to go to Jacksonville in the playoffs, which although the Jaguars are hot and they beat the fuck out of the Chargers earlier this season, you'd still rather go there.

Yeah, then you would go to Buffalo, Kansas City or Cincinnati. Yeah. And so the chart. I mean, it was it was good to see the Chargers have kind of, you know, you're waiting for them to charger it up and they have it like that was and they should have won and they won convincingly. There's still plenty of time for the Chargers to charge around a little bit. Well, it just happened in the in the playoffs. It'll happen in the playoffs.

Yes. So it was it was good when Ken Jack tweeted out something interesting. Ken Jack, the only actual Chargers fan I think in the world, tweeted out a stat about Austin Echler that I was not aware of. And we should be respecting Austin Echler a little bit more than we are. I think total touchdowns in 2001, 2022 for the following AFC running backs. Nick Chubb, 21 touchdowns. OK. Josh Jacobs, 20 touchdowns. OK. Derek Henry, 20 touchdowns. Austin Echler, 38 touchdowns. Wow.

Yeah, he's a weapon. Pretty good. Absolute weapon. Who is the guy? Who is the one Chargers fan? The other one we knew. Boltman. No, no, no, no. The guy in the comments. Oh, Shane. Oh, Shane. Oh, Sierra Nevada's Diarrhea, something. Yeah. Yeah. Sierra Nevada's Polto. It was his old school parcel.

He was he would just comment. He was the only Chargers fan I ever knew. He would just be like, got some Sierra Nevada's getting ready for the Chargers game. I think his comments handle was like Diarrhea Man or something. I did meet a Chargers fan this weekend, actually. And I got Shane. Yeah, Shane. I got him. He had he had a he had a Chargers tattoo on his leg. I met him too. Yeah. That guy.

I was like, that's a that's a decision that's also very funny because I think he just goes around and tells everyone, like, hey, look, I'm a Chargers. I'm a Chargers fan. Look, I can I can prove it. His name was, can I have a side of Diarrhea with that? Can I have a side of Diarrhea with that? Bolt up. And he would just comment, like, getting ready for the Chargers boys. Like, got my Sierra Nevada's.

Everyone in the comments section would be like, go for it, man. We love you. Bolt up. Yeah. That was that's shout out to him. Legend of the Chargers fandom bolt up. The good news to the Chargers also. Joey Bosa played back half half the snaps today. So he's gearing back up. Yeah. And I Chargers are looking good. Brandon Saley saved his job on paper.

Everything works with these Chargers, but it's kind of scary. Like they should, if the NFL was actually played on a spreadsheet, the Chargers would be like the Patriots. Yeah. And they would be just dominant. And and and I think we talked about this last week, but Mike Williams, when Mike Williams is out there and Keenan Allen, like I start to believe in the Chargers because they look totally different. Yep. And it just shows how deep the AFC is with the NFC is an absolute shit show

where we're talking about maybe the box making a run. By the way, we totally forgot to mention the greatest punt of all time by the box punter who saved maybe saved the game by picking it up and kicking off the side of his foot, running down the field. But the Chargers. I'm starting to believe in the Chargers as well. Yeah. The AFC playoffs are going to be awesome. There's not one, the seven seed, whoever gets it.

You could say maybe the weak link, but one through six. Any of those teams like can make a deep run. Definitely. And the key, I think, to this offense is when the tight end gets involved. Everett, dude, is fucking huge. Huge. And he wears number seven, which is always weird to see when he catches the ball. You're like, wait a second. Who is that? Who is that monster? Because I think he's six, three, two hundred forty pounds south Alabama.

This dude is fucking awesome. And when he's involved on offense, then you've got Mike Williams, who's also a legitimate red zone threat, Kenan Allen, also just a big dude. They've got massive targets. And it actually is a perfect like when the Chargers were struggling earlier in the season, Everett was the only thing they had. Yeah. So it was now that they have all their pieces together. Chargers are dangerous. The Rams, I don't.

Cam Acres has kind of saved his career. But that's nice. Yeah. Back hundred yard games kind of came out of nowhere. Just figured the Rams were going to have this let down after after the Christmas Day beat down the head of the Broncos. They're just not that talented. And yeah, I don't maybe they'll maybe they'll beat the Seahawks week week 18. I didn't see that. Yeah, I could definitely say it's interesting because you've got Cam Acres, who's been playing like really well.

But at the beginning of the season, he was a doghouse guy. Oh, yeah. I feel like running backs are the most doghouse position, right? Yes. If you're if you fumble, you get in a doghouse. Yeah. If you just don't show if you don't work hard enough in camp, don't watch enough film. If you don't, if you're blocking isn't on point as a rookie, you get into a coach's doghouse. Oh, yeah. You very rarely get out of a doghouse.

It seems like Cam Acres has worked his way out, worked his way out of the doghouse. Yeah. And and he's also one of those guys who's sneaky, so so young. What is this, a second or third year? But because of the injuries and everything, you think he's been around forever. He was good in college. Don't they have also Malcolm Brown? Is there other running back? I believe I think he scored a touchdown today.

Malcolm Brown, that dude's got to be like 33, 34. I mean, running backs, I can never get running back. I remember he went to Texas and he was like the number one recruit or he was top 10 in 20 years old at like any weight zone. Different Malcolm Brown, different Malcolm Brown, another Malcolm Brown that went to Texas. Yes, there's different. There are two of them. Malcolm Brown running back. He's 29 years old.

Twenty nine. Yeah, I guess in running back years, that's like 40. Yeah, running backs. I can never I can never actually get their age. Yeah, Cam Acres is 23. OK, next up, Niners, 37, Raiders, 34. We forgot in all the Cowboys, Hank's trolling of Cowboys, one seed talk. The Niners can absolutely get the one seed.

If the Eagles do end up slipping up in week 18 and the Niners win, they get the one seed, not the Cowboys. Yeah, when that was kind of inserted in my brain, and it got going, the the Raiders were up 14. Ah, OK, got you. You said that you were talking about this before the Saints game. Oh, that's true. But I said, yeah, the Vikings and the 49ers

used to lose one of the next two games. It appeared, obviously, the Raiders are the Raiders, but that game was going as if the 49ers were going to lose. But wait, just to clarify, when you say when it got incepted in your brain, you mean when when you thought about it? Yeah. And also, again, just to back up what Max said, you said you came into the day before the Saints Eagles game, saying Cowboys one seed.

Yeah, I said, imagine what it's going to be like. Now, you were kind of like Cowboys are going to get the one seed. They still might. OK. All right. Yeah. And if they are, I'll put my hand up and say, sorry, Hank, I was wrong. And what will you do if they don't? I'll shake that hand. No, no, no. You'll say, I'm sorry. I was wrong. I'm on my troll shit. Only if the Eagles get the one seed, if the 49ers get it,

if the Eagles blow the one seed, if the Eagles blow the one seed, I will not be apologizing for anything. OK, OK. Jared Siddham was actually not bad in this game. He had a couple of interceptions, but he like, I don't think anyone expected Jared Siddham to look like that. No, he was he was good in the first he was the Raiders got in a shootout with the with the Niners defense that I think before this weekend and you can't make a judgment after one game.

If you like pulled everyone's like the best unit in the NFL, the Niners defense would be up there. Yeah. And they got kind of obliterated today, which I don't know if it's a one game aberration, but it was that was a crazy, crazy game. I mean, if you're Jared Siddham, you have to be almost relieved right now because he had a great thing going for him, which was just be one offensive coordinators like pet guy that he brings around with him everywhere,

his security blanket, his like all time backup and never actually have to show anything in a game because then you might the Roos might be over. Yeah. If you have to actually perform, he goes out. Yeah, you had two interceptions through three touchdowns, almost 400 yards. Now he's just got to like breathe out and be like, thank God, I didn't blow that. Yeah. Like just hope no one watches week eight. Yes, they'll probably be a correction, but it's better that he did this like in this game against a good defense.

Yes. Now it's like, OK, imposter syndrome, get that out of the way. He knows he's supposed to be there right now, because this could have been a disaster for a bit of a disaster. I think everyone thought it was going to be a disaster. It was like a 10 point spread. The Niners, by the way, the Christian McCaffrey trade turns out it was really, really good. So since he got traded, remember the first week against the Chiefs, he didn't. It was like a limited role because he got traded that week.

So not counting that game. He has a thousand yards and nine touchdowns in nine games. And they're nine now. Yeah, pretty good. Nine and oh, since he got traded to the Niners, kind of a game change. And every team loses the week after they play them. So bet against the Raiders next week. Jared said, I'm fading.

Is what we're saying. Yeah. I mean, I I am very much a believer that games can get out of hand and like the tenor of a game. But we're going to talk about Michigan and TCU where I don't think the Niners defense is all of a sudden bad. It's just this game became a shootout out of nowhere out of basically the I mean, the Raiders marched down in the first drive and sometimes games pinball like that.

And it's not it's not saying the Niners have a bad defense. If they do it two weeks in a row, maybe I'd say, huh, that's weird. I'll think they'll be they'll be OK. This was a major look ahead game two for the 49ers. So it's the Raiders. They're not playing against Derek Carr. They should play every year, though. Oh, absolutely.

I wish they should play in the Bay Area. Yeah, they should play in the Bay Area every year. So that means the Niners would also have to probably move their stadium. Yes. Oh, yeah, move it an hour north. Yeah, the Raiders remember that Devontae Adams is good. That was pretty much the difference between the offense with Stitum and the offense with Carr is they just kept throwing the ball to Devontae Adams. Yeah. And they're like, OK, this our best player.

Let's get him involved in some of the plays. And then maybe he'll score a couple touchdowns. There was a report before the game in case you were interested and curious when you saw the news about Derek Carr getting benched. You might have thought to yourself, wait, is Derek Carr going to retire now? I know we all thought about that, right? No. Oh, you didn't?

Oh, no, I thought he was going to retire. Oh, OK, good. Because Ian Rappaport tweeted out this morning that Derek Carr has decided not to retire. Oh, OK. So he's coming back. Yeah, so he's not retiring. He's just benched for two games. Oh, OK. Point of clarification. He'll be back.

He'll be on the Colts next year. OK, we need Rappaport to tweet one of those for our friend, Will Compton. Not retired. We do not retire. Just year 11 loading. Year 11 loading. Wait for it. All right. The next game. So you had Niners, looks like they're going to be.

They could be the one seed. They could be maybe one through three at this point. So we'll see what happens week 18. I think if they win in the Eagles, win the two seed. If they win, I'm running the simulation right now. I believe that's what it is. If they win and the Eagles win, they will be the two seed. There's only the Vikings are the only team that can't get the one seed at this

point of those like the Cowboys, the Niners, the Eagles, the Vikings cannot get the one seed. Yes, they're going to be either two or three. Yeah. And if you're. If you're the Vikings, you probably you might want to consider not playing against the Packers in the first round. I don't know if you want that to see. Probably something you should consider.

You got to think about it. But yeah. And then you have the reverse where the Packers probably don't want to play the Niners. Correct. So yeah. Yeah. OK. Seahawks, Jets, Seahawks, 23, Jets, six. The New York football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs. They were six and three.

I know that this is oh, I had. Oh, fuck, I forgot. I had one last thing about the Niners. I have to bring this up because I think it's a take that's going to start happening and it's crazy to say that it's coming from the craziest person in our office. But Frank, the tank did bemoan that the dolphins should have drafted. Jared Stidham. I do think or sorry, Brock Purdy.

I do think that that will be a real take that people will say, well, they should have drafted Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant, even though I would say every single quarterback in the NFL would look good in this. No, no offense. Brock, not except for Carson Wentz, except for Carson Wentz would look good in this 49ers offense. No offense to Brock Purdy, but he is in the best possible situation a quarterback could ever be.

He is. But to his credit, he's also making some pretty good throw. Yes. And he does this thing where he gets out of the put. He like slides back out of the pocket that I don't know. It's just it doesn't it probably didn't show up in his scouting report. And he looks awesome doing it. And it always ends up being like a six 15 yard pass. He's got Moxie. Yeah.

Kyle Shannon said in preseason, he's got the it factor. And I don't know what the it factor is. But I know that when Kyle Shanahan says he likes a quarterback, you should listen to him when he says that. Absolutely. Now it's going to be interesting next year what happens when Trey Lance gets healthy. What do you do? Do you stick with Brock Purdy? And then I mean, we're going to start having the conversation soon of like it's like how we talk about Tom Brady.

Like how could. Yeah. How could 32 teams? Yeah. Not draft. That's what I'm saying. Frank Tank is the canary in the coal mine. That that take is coming. He was just he was the first one to it. All right. I don't I didn't I didn't intentionally do this, but I have to reintroduce this game.

Seahawks 23 Jets 6. The New York football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs. I'm curious to know who got eliminated first, by the way, was it the commanders or the Jets by the clock? Oh, I think knows. Commanders off. No, no, no, no. The Vikings was the final half game.

When I so Billy, your team got eliminated first. Yeah. Sorry. I feel bad for you as a Jets fan. It's going to be tough. And Billy, I feel bad for you as well. I know that the the joke that is always made whenever a team wins a big game in the regular season, they're like congrats on the week four Super Bowl.

That actually applies for this Jets season. They won the week nine Super Bowl when they beat the Bills and went to six and three. They've been one in six since. I think it's even worse. I think when we beat the Packers, that one was. Yeah, like, oh, yeah. That's what's put the cheesehead on.

Yeah, that's when it started. Yeah, that's when the whole I feel bad for you guys started. Yeah, it will. No, that was the Thursday night game. Commander's Bears. I know, but we were coming out. He literally said he felt bad for us as fans because his Jets team was so good

and they were heading to the playoffs. Yeah, they've been eliminated from the playoffs. Just I don't know if I don't know if I said that yet with a week left with a week left, they've been eliminated from the playoffs. Yeah. Now, do you how do you think this game plays out if you have Zach Wilson in there? Honestly, I think worse. When I like, I want to see if he was.

Yeah, go ahead. I mean, the thing is, Zach Wilson just was a lightning rod for criticism. I'm really trying to figure out. It's the media. I like that. You said this take before. I want to hear it for the people. I'm going to dedicate my whole off season

to figuring out what is the reason why quarterbacks are having real problems succeeding in the New York Jets organization. Because look, we played a former New York Jets quarterback today and he played pretty freaking well. Wait, but you said specifically you said I really do think it's the New York media that makes the Jets bad. Do you think it's different media that covers the Giants?

Well, I think that the lightning rod that is the Jets gets is the full back for the Giants because they get all the heat. Like, if you looked at the criticism, I mean, it's a lot more warranted for what was happening. But I think it did mess with dude's heads. I mean, like, do you think it has anything to do with drafting poorly or coaching or anything? No, it's it's it's the very dishonest journalist.

Yeah, they say they say, Green Mushnick or whatever his name is. Green team bad. Yeah. And they just hate the quarterback. Quarterback, terrible person. I think it's one of those things where depending on the type of person and player you are going into New York, you're going to attract a lot more media attention. I think well, shouldn't they draft?

Shouldn't they draft? If you know that, shouldn't you draft someone to handle it? Definitely. Or maybe trade for somebody that can handle it or like, find a quarterback that you know, like, I think maybe the Giants had that more in mind when they picked a guy like Daniel Jones, who kind of everyone used to comment this, like, look like he was a finance bro as opposed to Zach Wilson. That looks like he's a blue collar construction.

It looks like he's banging moms and like there's there was just a lot like he looks like a finance bro, but it's like his summer internship, his junior year in Goldman Sachs. I don't know. I just I think Daniel Jones has gotten a ton of criticism. He has, but he's not gone into as much media scrutiny because he's not as bad. Well, and also he's and he also he's good now, has good answers at the podium. So is this a Zach Wilson should have banged those moms take?

I'm just trying to figure out, I'm just trying to figure out what is the common denominators that's derailing all these quarterbacks and then they leave and they might be bad. I think it's drafting poorly. But what about Sam Darnold? Right? Yeah. He had a good week this week. Gino Smith has had a whole Sam Darnold. You can blame can't you blame him on Adam Gase and getting mono? Yeah.

True. I mean, like New York media sniffed that one out. Yeah, they got they got him pretty good there. Like seeing ghosts. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I'm going to try to I might make it. I think I was gase, wasn't it? And that was ESPN. Those money football. I might do like a docu series,

like try to figure out what the hell is going on. So so so just so we're clear, the docu series is the jets aren't bad. The media has made them bad. Yeah. OK, I think the docu series could just be like a review of their draft choices. Yeah, but like the thing is, they drafted pretty well this year. You know, they have. Yeah, just not. OK, I think I think I think the most important position all of sports. I understand what Billy's saying,

because and you should probably understand this, too. We are fans of dysfunctional franchises. Yeah, and a lot of that does have to do with their inability to develop a quarterback. No, that's that's one of the major parts in New York media. So Big Cat in Chicago, which has no media. It's the wind. It's the wind's fault in DC. It's the swamp. Yeah. And in the practice field and the the game field and the game field and field to.

Yeah, I'm not standing on that take as something incredulous, but like looking at it, not the right word. That's OK. Keep going. What? No, no, what do you think that's meaning? Like, I'm not trying to be like I that take I said in just now would bring it up, but like it would be funny to figure out what exactly is going on. I would like to see if you were to interview Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, even Mark Sanchez and just ask them Christian Hackenburg. This would actually be a great little video series, maybe thesis.

I would like to read. I might like write up a report. OK, give it to the jet. I actually, you know what? You should do that. And you have to do that. You have to do that. Yeah. What is what is wrong with the jets? Yeah. Yeah. A Billy football we're going to investigation. It's partnership with the NTSB. Yeah, it's going to be like a PhD. Yeah.

Like, HD level. Yeah, it's going to be great. Um, I do feel bad for you, Billy, and I'm not saying that just to get back to you for that time. You said that to us because I do think this jets team was better than it was better than what they ended up with the record. Their quarterback position was it was a disaster. And the silver lining is you did find out like Mike White is not the guy. So you don't have to delude yourself.

Like it actually would have been in a long term play, would have been bad for Mike White to win these last two games, get in the playoffs and be like, Mike White's the guy. He's a nice player, but he's not the guy. I think he has a long career as a backup, maybe a couple of spot starts here where you can electrify everyone. But I do feel bad for you, Billy, because I do think this jets defense was very good and there was a lot of shit talking about the jets

and respecting the jets and they have been eliminated from the playoffs. I hate to have to keep reporting this, but it has has to be reported. The New York football jets have been eliminated from the playoffs. Did you see what Rap Report reported? What have they been eliminated? Know that the jets aren't going to move on from Zach Wilson. Yeah, I don't know what that means. They probably are trying to trade them.

Yeah, decent value out of there. What happens if they said the same thing about Darnell, though, and then they traded them and also what happens? He ends up being good somewhere else. Well, he probably will. I know. No, I mean, look, you know, Sam Darold. Yes, you know, Smith were better than Zach Wilson, so it took you know, Smith, like eight years to get good.

And Sam Darold, we don't still know. I mean, he's had a couple of nice games. But, you know, it was hopefully we went beat the dolphins next week, but that actually would be worth worse draft wise. But it'll be fun to see what happens. It will be. It will be fun to see what happens. I mean, we're closing the chapter. We're closing the chapter on the season.

But it was it was fun while it lasted. So there is something to be said for a bad franchise having it like a couple of months where they're like, we're good. Yeah, where you think that you're good. It feels awesome. It makes the football season go go along a lot smoother. You feel better about yourself when your football team is winning. So I'm happy for Jets fans because of that.

And also in October, it also you have a great scapegoat in Zach Wilson. Yeah, it's really, it's really easy to be like in the media. This dude's the reason why our season sucked, but only because the media made him right. Exactly. So there's double blame. Yeah. But yeah, six and three. The very dishonest one in six, yeah. And by the way, the one win was against the Bears

who were trying to lose and it was Trevor Simeon. So, yeah, it's been bad football. I know you have that Robert Salah coach of the year ticket. What percentage do you think that might cash? You never know. Maybe people put in their votes in October, Hank. I don't know. I mean, I said it was going to be a coach from New York.

Dable, I think Dable is definitely. Yeah, go back, check the tape. I said it was either going to be a coach from New York, Dable or Salah. And you only bet on one. I only posted one. So you did bet on the other. So you bet on both of them. Can we see the other one?

So Billy, so Billy, when you when you put your bet in and you placed your money on the Giants, what were the odds on that for for Brian Dable? I bet on Salah. Yeah, yeah, we know. That's a constructive way of saying I did not bet on. I said, I said, but whatever. Anyway, listen, we're giving Billy a lot of shit,

but honestly, it will be interesting to see what happens because like, what if we pick up a more Jackson? It will be fun to see what happens. We could pick up a more Jackson. Yeah, how is he going to deal with that? I don't think Lamar Jackson wants to deal with New York media. No, absolutely not. I mean, taxes.

Tyreek don't want to come here. Maybe some of that good water would be good. Maybe taxes. Actually, that might be like one of my body paragraphs. Taxes, why taxes have impacts to the New York Jets. Well, I like that, too. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, really good. OK, and then the Seahawks.

That's probably why Sam Darnwood was going out and hoboken. Yeah, probably why he was slumming it with 22 year olds instead of making out with high society people on the Upper East side. True, true. The Seahawks are still alive. Pete Carroll's never lost four games in a row with Seahawks. They stave that off today. They I mean, they've looked a lot better today

and that's a good Jets defense and they were all over them. Never really a doubt. And now the Seahawks have to win and have the Lions win for them to get into the playoffs to get that seventh seat. Yeah, it could happen. It could happen. The Seahawks just kind of keep hanging in there. Pete Carroll, probably never going to retire.

Well, he's going to coach football and look like he's 55 for the rest of his life. Yep. Yep. I wonder what he's going to do when he does hang it up. It's because he probably doesn't want to go through a complete rebuild. Right. And we don't want that brain out there. No, free. No, with no football to tie it down. I don't know what he's going to do. A lot of free hours scares me.

Maybe uncover the world's greatest mysteries. He's probably going to figure out why the media is treating the New York check. He does have a lot of conspiracies about Jets. Yes, that's true. All right. Last game. Oh, actually, we'll do Sunday football as well. Packers 41 Viking 17. This was an absolute shit kicking. It sucks that I wasn't able to enjoy this because I was in a rock and a hard place where we've been on the Vikings or frauds.

And then now it seems like Aaron Rodgers is going to actually do this. I don't know how he keeps doing this. How he keeps getting away with it. But the Packers are in a true win and get in situation week 18 at home against the Lions. It's fucked up. I just hope they have to play the Niners and get absolutely pumped by him. But fuck, they're playing decent football right now. The good news for you is like if they don't make the playoffs at all,

then you don't get to watch Aaron Rodgers lose in the playoffs. Yeah, no, it's another. So that's actually like it's a banner for him in a weird way. If he doesn't make the playoffs. Yeah, it's a year without a loss. It was this this game sucked because I've been nice to cousins three times this year. Somebody tweeted this at me and let me know. There were three times that I believed in Kirk Cousins before the Eagles game

before the Cowboys game and before the Packers game. So I hand up. I should never but you should want me to not believe in the Vikings. Yeah, you should. The Vikings fans should beg me to just stay away from their team. I'm happy to do that. It'll probably happen naturally. But here's some fun stats courtesy of Stathole Sports about their point differential.

The Minnesota Vikings are at 12 and 4 negative 19 in their total point differential this season. Since the 1970 merger, the average point differential. Guess what the average point differential is for? What? For 12 and four teams of there have been 88 of them. Let's say 70 plus 75. 119 average plus 119. And there are three 12 and four teams, the 49ers, the Cowboys, the Vikings.

49ers plus 148 Cowboys plus 145 Vikings minus 19. Yeah. And the Raiders are minus five this season. So the Raiders are 14 points better as the season goes than the Vikings are. Damn. Yeah. I mean, the Vikings they've won 11 one score games. They beat the Packers by whatever it was, like 16 week one. And then their four losses are 24 to seven to Eagles, 40 to three to the Cowboys, 34, 23 to Detroit and 41, 17 to the Packers.

When they lose, it's bad and it gets ugly. And I we've talked about the Vikings so much in this podcast. It's just it is what it is. I think we're going to be right in the end. Doesn't take away from being an incredible season. And Kevin O'Connell also is very much alive for coach of the year because he took a team that didn't make the playoffs last year to an NFC North title. But yeah, they got absolutely smoked in this game.

And I love whenever a guy talks shit and backs it up. And Jair Alexander did exactly that, calling week one a fluke. Completely shut down. Justin Jefferson, he had one catch for 15 yards. He also like lost his mind on the sidelines. Did you see that when he tried to hit him with a helmet and end up hitting the ref? Yeah, Justin Jefferson. Yeah, took his helmet off, tried him because he was so pissed off

that Jair Alexander tried to gritty. He grittied on him. Yeah. So he like broke up your last zoo. You are the point that that is the double edged sword of coming up with an awesome celebration is that people can do it right back to you in your face. Yeah. And that usually happens. So yeah, Jefferson took his helmet off, tried to smash it on him and just missed. Hit the ref in the back. That was tough.

Shout out to Vikings fans out there because there's one guy on Reddit Hank sent this to the group chat. Yeah, I love this theory. There's a Vikings fan on Reddit that's suggesting that the Packers overwatered the middle of the field. That would only affect the Vikings players to slow down the Vikings. Yep. But not the Packers. They play on the same field.

They play on the same field, but Big Cat, you don't understand. It was covered in water and slopping wet. And Green Bay hasn't received any precipitation since December 23rd. So this guy, Glass Cherry 425 thinks that they hosed down the field to only their advantage because you could see it drying as a game went on. And Jair knew that he only had to go to the outside because Justin Jefferson wouldn't cut across the middle of the field. So it's it's completely tilted NFL rigged.

At maximum, it was borderline cheating according to this guy. It's dirty, dirty move by the Packers, according to Glass Cherry. They had time to prepare their tactics. He wants answers for why the field was slopping wet. OK, I have a theory on why. Why I think that they have a sprinkler system installed, probably. And I think that the system it sprayed water on the grass. Honestly, if they did do this, that's like an incredible move.

It's classic Packers. I mean, it's just I have no problem with it. If you take it, if you're like, hey, we're going to maybe make it. We're going to make it slower for ourselves, too. Yeah. And hope this just affects them more than it affects us. That's kind of a that kind of rocks. Well, so what I'm hearing here is they there was no precipitation since December 23rd, right?

And it's a grass field, right? Yeah. How what does grass need to grow? Water probably say they were probably watering their field. Yeah, to make the grass grow. That is true. That's and trust me, this it could go way deeper than that. But that's my general take on it. Wow. OK. So a legal game Packers didn't actually win. You can make that argument.

I can't believe the Packers are going to do this again. It's so it's so fucked up. They're going to lose in the first round because what depends on who they play. Well, they're probably going to play against the 49ers. I know. But what if they play the Vikings? Just but imagine how satisfying it's going to be when the 49ers. Yeah. No, I know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, no. If they play the Niners, Callie Boy, I'm going to that's going to be a great game.

I'm going to be I'm going to be all locked in for that game. But if they somehow draw the Vikings, that that's going to bother me to no end, because then they go, then they go play the Cowboys, the one seed, and they could beat the Cowboys. The one seed. Yeah. Home field throughout. Right. I think green. Yeah. I mean, Mike McCarthy is going to be on all sorts of tilt playing against his former team. Exactly.

They beat the Cowboys already this year. So yeah. I'm I'm I know that they'll lose the Niners, but even them being in scares me a little bit. But they're going to they're going to play the game in Santa Clara. It's going to be Aaron Rodgers, basically a home game for Aaron Rodgers. Hopefully a night game. He's probably going to have all his fame. He's he might have some friends that come out to the game.

This is going to suck. They're going to fucking they're going to go on a run. God damn it. I think we're good. I think we're in the clear. He is he is doing the thing where he's he knew that they were going to win this game. Yeah. And he knows he's going to beat the Lions when he said the other week when he was like, oh, yeah, not all of them are above 500. Yeah. Talking about the Lions.

All right. Fine. Fuck it. I'm just nervous. I know everyone. Packers fans know I'm nervous. And this is going to because you just never know. You just fucking never know. Although this guy's won the same amount of NSE championship games as Rex Grossman. That's a fact. So it'll be fine.

It will all work out. It'll be fine. Right. It'll be good. Right, Max. Fine. Hank, just this devilish grin, knowing that. My pain is about to come. If you're a if you're a Vikings fan, you have this as a spin zone. This was from C hug D's nuts. OK, he tweeted this at me.

He's a reliable source. I think a Vikings fan or Vikings loss eliminated the Saints. The Vikings. Could have done this on purpose as retribution for the 2010 bounty gate. Oh, so you have you have your revenge. There it is. So congratulations, Vikings. Way to go. You're lying. You have to. I'm also rooting for Jared. So OK.

Yes, my pain is my pain. All right. Yeah, Lions have to win. Like the world wants the Lions in the playoffs. I don't want the packers. We do. I gave up. I gave up everything to get the Lions in. God damn it. I Detroit, Don. I'm going to have to fly him out for the stream. Imagine that.

Super fan is going crazy on the stream. I might. Yeah, I might have to make a phone call about that. That would be intense. All right, last game, Sunday football. I think we should fly Commander Dale from Detroit Urban Survival Training out. OK. Can we do background checks on all these superfans just before? Yeah, because there's no psychos in this office on you.

Billy, if we bet, we do a background check. This background check, everyone. But everyone that worked here, half the office would be unemployed. That was that's a Pandora's box. You do not want to open. Come on, come on, Billy. Use your head. All right, last game, Sunday football. Steelers, 16 Ravens, 13.

That was an awesome game. We watched the whole second half. Kenny Pickett, he's a guy like that drive was fucking awesome. It was guy. It was guy material. It really was. And he was making all the throws and the like Najee Harris looked awesome. T.J. Watt, the Steelers somehow.

Mike Tomlin, coach of the year. He just never fucking goes under 500. And they might get to the playoffs. Like it's not crazy. The Bills beat the Patriots. The Jets beat the Dolphins. The Steelers win week 18. The Steelers are in the fucking playoffs.

Everything is falling into line for them. They're going to end up nine and eight. They're going to get to the playoffs. And this was a good thing, I think, for Kenny Pickett. If he's able to like you could make the argument for some other teams that getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round is not good. Like Hank is probably not looking forward to watching his Patriots losing the first round.

But in this case, if it's a rookie quarterback, Kenny Pickett, he had his moments where he looks shaky, where people were saying, OK, we need to be starting Mitch Trubisky instead of Kenny Pickett. I think this is great for Kenny. Kenny's like that second half that he had today. There were some bad parts. But I think he learned just like just throw the ball to either Pickens or Friar Muth.

Yeah. And then you'll probably be able to figure out from there. And your defense is good enough where if you scored 19 points, you're probably going to win most of the games that you're in. Yes. Yes. All right. Let's play a little whose line is it anyway for these three games for the AFC playoffs. So Patriots at Bills, I'm going to say Bills by. Eight. I was going to say six and a half, eight and a half.

That could change, obviously, because they're playing against the Bengals on Monday Night Football Jets at Dolphins. Who's starting for the Dolphins? Not Tua, not Teddy, right? Skyler. Is it going to be Skyler? Jets minus one and a half Jets minus three. Jets plus three. Oh, whoa.

So maybe they think Tua might start. That's that New York media. That is hating on the Jets could start, maybe. And then the last one we have is where's the Steelers game? They might not have posted it because they just won. Yeah, they don't have it. So the Steelers play the Browns. Correct. Is that in Pittsburgh?

Yes, it is. Man, I'm rooting for the Steelers. Make the playoffs. That would be fun for Kenny. He's our guy. He is in Hank. You are too, right? Yeah, definitely. It's going to be I'm very excited for week 18.

I know that like the most of the playoff seeds have been clinched, but the fact that we have this many games that are going to mean something is going to be pretty awesome. Yeah, it is great. It is great. I love football. I love football and football gets better every year. Yeah, Jake, you want to tell us real quick who who's playing on Saturday? Yeah, so we have the double flex Saturday. It's going to be Chiefs Raiders and the AFC South title, Jags Titans,

which means my flex of the year with your assists look only 50-50. Because it looks like it's going to be Lions Packers or Ravens Bengals. Right. Ravens Bengals or Lions Packers. Yeah, the Bengals do win the NFC or say AFC North with a win on Monday night. Right. So if they win, I think we're in the clear. This game is going to rule so hard. Yeah, I can't wait. It's the most wins in a combined Monday night football game since 1997.

That's pretty much ever. Yeah. Also. So all the Sunday games are TBD. I think they're going to make all like the relevant games at four. Yeah. So one o'clock is probably pretty weak. It's going to be a long night for us. But yeah, that's fine. I can I can do it.

That's why we train all season. Also, we won't have to talk about any of the one o'clock. Right. It's going to be a late start. So that's fine. I also welcome this. I welcome a challenge. But I'm going to bet all the one o'clock game just so we're clear. I also have a basketball game at two. So it works out.

Oh, OK. They probably did the schedule for you. Exactly. Yeah. Nice. Who are you calling? Manhattan again. It's Niagara. Greg Paul is coming to town. Oh, nice. Yeah. OK. All right, let's do one more ad and let's wrap up the show. Yeah. Before we get to the end of the show, it's being brought to you by Norton Lifelock.

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OK, football guy of the week, Billy. So last week's winner in a big upset was the Wobbly Browns fan. I thought it was going to be Matthew Marvin, the guy doing the pass sets in the parking lot outside the. I love Wobbly Browns fan. Yeah, but he won. OK. So now for this week's. They should paint him at midfield inside the Elf.

I think you said that last week. Did I? Yeah, it's a long football season. I think they should. Maybe he is an elf. I repeat it because it's a fact. Our first nominee is Blaine Gabbard, quarterback for the Buccaneers. He apparently, after a helicopter crash, hopped on a skidoo and rescued some of the guys who were almost drowning.

That rocks. I love Blaine Gabbard. Holy shit. He is a real American hero. What a bad ass. Superhero moves. Yeah. That, you know what, jet ski. That's that's great vibes for the box. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like that's a that's an all time backup quarterback move. Yeah. Big time karma points. Blaine of the year. Yeah.

Blaine of the year. Our second nominee is Daniel Jones. So Coach Dabel said he had Daniel Jones break down the team. And when he did, he gave everyone an extra day off, something he didn't give permission for first. So Daniel Jones just commandeered the team and gave everyone an extra day off. I don't like that. Justin Herbert said you guys should be crying that you get that day off.

I don't know. I just put it in here. It was pretty hilarious. But I mean, he just literally alphaed almost the whole organizational chain of commands just could use a guy like that. Yeah. Third nominee is Stacy Collins, Penn State Special Teams coordinator, who a video aired of him, who basically he uses himself as a tackling dummy for his players during practice. And he's just getting laid out.

And he's like 70, right? Yeah. It's it's it's not that what he's doing is that physical and that crazy. But he's just he's so he's an older gentleman just getting totally wrecked. Human Body Craves contact. Exactly. And our last nominee is Steve Sarkeesian before his bowl game. Alamo Bowl. Look, I a lot of people didn't like this. This is a football guy.

This was he was amped up as fuck. If I saw my head coach ready to fight a guy right before the game. Yeah, Billy explain. So basically he was in the tunnel. They're waiting. They're getting amped up to run out into the field. There was a coordinator producer who was putting his hands on him. It was it. It was like a field supervisor. Yeah, I was making sure the team didn't run barely brushed him.

I got he gave him a cup. There was a cup there. It was enough content. But like when you're in that zone, like when you're hyped up before a game like that, getting pumped and anything. No, I don't know. There's a lot of emotions before a game. I see it gets pretty testy.

That's pretty hype. That just shows his mindset. It could have been anything to send him off like that. So they that just shows they lost. Yeah, but I did just as a favorite. I thought it was pretty ridiculous. But if I was if I was a player and I saw my coach going nuts like that before a game, I'd be like, oh, yeah, we're going off.

My coach is like, test these out like let's go. There were a lot of rumors when Sark was up in Washington that he actually didn't mind a lot of strangers, hands at different places. I just saw it as more a guy the way he yelled at him. I was like, that guy is just doing his job and Sark is on a power trip. And I think his exact words don't ever fucking touch me again. So there were a couple elements to it. The first was just him putting his hand up.

Yeah, that was OK on the field. There was like a there was like a grab. There was actually a fine grab as someone who is milking him. But here's the thing is someone who has breasts and sometimes people will touch them. I don't love it. But at the end of the day, that's my fault for having the breast. Did you see how he was dressed? Yeah, I was he's probably he probably saying if I was asking for it.

But if I did some push ups and got a hard body, I wouldn't care that people grab my breasts. I mean, it might be one of those things where he comes up to the guy after the game, I don't know if he did this and was just like, yo, sorry, it was just pregame atmosphere. Like a lot of crazy shit happens. I'm going to get into fights. Like, think about it.

Sark doesn't strike me as a guy that's like my bad amends. No, no, but think like before games, tons of like stuff happens like that where people are on edge and it just shows like big game atmosphere. It wasn't really that big of a game. I guess it was a decent. I think this also is one of those situations where you don't. And this is not your fault, but like you don't fully know Steve Sarkesian. True in the stories and his career.

It's kind of a psycho. Yeah, a big time psycho. And he there was you could see like a switch flip. Yeah, right. It was angry where he went into like if he had a knife in his hand, yeah, he would have stabbed the guy. It was rage. It's but hey, put him on the list. He's on list.

It is a football. Yeah, let's let the people decide. Yeah. Oh, in this last one, this is a throwback football guy of the week. The US Army, basically they this was pretty cool ran across this little photo of basically they had a prototype grenade. So you know how like the classic grenade is short in baseball shape. So US soldiers, when they were throwing it, had a little relative familiarity. Basically, they also made a almost nerf football grenade.

So it was just this prototype was just a nerf football with a giant like bomb in the middle that US soldiers are supposed to throw at like tanks. Essentially as like a recruiting tool specifically for Billy, that's awesome to join the military. That'd be pretty sick. Imagine that would be imagine like we invade Iraq again in 10 years. Josh Allen put him on the front lines. He just slings like a 70 yard bomb.

Saddam Hussein's son catches it and explodes. Yeah, yeah, sick. Yeah. All right. Good job, Billy. Hello, fantasy. I like that. Good. That's a good varied group of football guys. Wait. So it was the last one just like the United States military. Well, that's a throwback. That's just like a cool story. Got it.

OK. Ready. For who's back the week? Yeah, I'll do college football for my start with that. I was saying we didn't talk about it before, but we should talk about the college football playoffs. Sure. They were awesome. I had a great time. It was Michigan TCU was one of the most chaotic games I've ever watched.

So the was at the end of the third quarter slash start of the fourth quarter, where we had 49 points in like four minutes of game time. It was like it was like the 10 minute mark or third quarter at all hell broke loose. Yeah, I think if you go all the way back to the 10 minute mark, we're at like 57 points. It was chaos at the end of that.

It was incredible. It was like as soon as one team, as soon as TCU felt like they were letting Michigan get back into it, there would be just a guy breaking through in the secondary for TCU and you're up 14 points. It was also just it was basically any time Michigan decided they were going to blitz, TCU would score an ADR touchdown. Yeah, because they just couldn't cover everyone.

And Michigan did get screwed in that first half call. I don't know what the fuck the review was. He scored a touchdown. Yes. And then they fumbled on the goal line the next play, but that was a touchdown. I still think that the, you know, TCU, the season they've had and it felt like they could keep scoring if the game went on for another, you know, five hours, they just would have kept scoring.

Yeah. So I'm not going to say that Michigan should have won. I just am acknowledging the fact they got screwed. But holy fuck, TCU just made Michigan play a big 12 game. Yeah. And it was just back and forth. Like I think if they played that game a hundred times, you wouldn't score. You wouldn't have that many points scored more than like three or four times. Yeah. And to match what Big Cat said at the end of the game, the very last play. Yeah. Michigan was trying their hardest to extend the game,

trying to get a touchdown if they could. Their player got tackled. It was pretty clearly a targeting penalty. Yeah. The guy from TCU came in high, hit him in the back of the neck, back of the head, and the referees took a look at it. And this is one of those situations where a common sense will tell you this game should not be called on this play. Like Michigan was not going to win. TCU should win this game.

But by the letter of the law, it was definitely a targeting penalty that the refs clearly saw in the replay and just said, kind of don't want to call it right now because it doesn't make a difference. Also, they, Michigan just couldn't have had a worse end of the game, like trying to, trying to, trying to get, trying to get something going for even a Hail Mary spot. Yeah. It was, it was a bad last possession. And so I think it didn't really affect.

Michigan wasn't going to win that game, but by the letter of the law, they should have gotten that targeting penalty. Yes. And they should have scored that first time. But TCU, I mean, I, there is a lot of college football fans who thought they didn't deserve to be in the college football playoff, which was crazy. I've been standing on the soapbox for them for the last month. Like they ran a gauntlet of a regular season undefeated.

They lost by three in their in overtime in the big 12 championship game. I know that they don't have the talent that some of these other teams have. Like if you look at the composite talent ranking, they are a true outlier. If they win the national title, they will be the least, you know, highly recruited or the least talented on just purely paper team by a large margin, because it's just always like whoever has the top 10 recruits class will end up being the national champion. I don't count them out in this game against Georgia.

They are fucking whatever it is. They just the hip, no toad. I don't know what it is. They're just good in Max Duggan's a fucking baller. Yeah, I'm going to bet on them. Yeah, I'm there's something they do seem like team of destiny vibes. They've all they've got like tiger blood. They don't die ever. They've been they've been pushed to the point of just collapse

so many times this year in this game. They got off to they got off to a lead, which was crazy. You never seem to do that because they're usually falling behind like 10, 14 points early, and then they have to battle back and dig themselves out of a hole. There is something we said about that, too, being tested like that, because when you get to the college football playoff, a lot of the teams are the bullies in their conference

and they don't play more than one or two really tight games all year. TCU's played pretty much every game. I mean, they kicked the shit out of, I want to say, Oklahoma State. And they, you know, they beat Texas pretty good, even though that was, you know, not a huge margin. Every other game has been just crazy and back and forth and digging themselves out of holes and late game heroics. So they're tested. Max Duggan is awesome.

Yeah, he's awesome. He's playing so well right now. They do seem like team of destiny. They've got the Mike Leach thing going for him, too. Yeah, you know, Sonny Dykes is like, that's that's his guy. I love Sonny Dykes, too. Yeah, Sonny Dykes. Yeah. Funcoach, I think they were like plus 900 at the start of the year or something like that.

It's yeah, probably worse. Probably crazy. Yeah. They were split. They were supposed to finish last or one of the worst teams in the big 12 coming off a five and seven year. Gary Patterson has to be like, well, I guess I really did suck at the end there. Yeah, because you don't see teams do this. And it's the whole story is incredible.

I'm very happy for TCU. Michigan, I don't know. Like that was I think that still is the most the winningest Michigan team of all time. I don't think any Michigan team has gotten to 13 wins. So and Harbaugh has them in a good spot. But you have to feel disappointed, the fact that you're an eight point favorite going into the college football playoff, playing incredible football.

And then that game happens. Here's here's the craziest part. Michigan had three interceptions on or sorry. Was it three interceptions in a fumble? Do they have three interceptions or it was two interceptions of the phone, two interceptions of the phone. So three turnovers. How many turnovers did Michigan have in their other 13 games? 10, seven. Damn.

That's how crazy that game was. Yeah, Michigan played a certain style. They took care of the football. They leaned on teams. They played great defense all year. And they get into this game and all hell broke loose. And you just knew that second half, like there was nothing they could do to bottle that up. You can't you'd have to just restart the game another day

to figure out how to stop what was happening in that game. There's something to be said for a team like that with TCU that will just play crazy. Yeah, and they'll they'll draw you into a fucked up fight and beat you with experience because they're like, we've played some of the most fucked up football games that you'll ever see. We know how to do this crazy shit. You you don't you are clearly you're very good at playing formal football. We're just going to fuck with your brain and put you in scenarios that you never even dreamed of.

Yes. And that one last thing about this game, the Quentin Johnson, that that touchdown that he had, that long touchdown he had, where he did the little like fake jog and caught the linebacker or cornerback was one of the coolest moves ever. You remember that play? Yeah, where it's like, who did that in the NFL recently? He just did. He hit him with a little slow step, fake jog, completely stopped in his tracks and then boom, gone. Yeah, I think somebody did that against digs and it worked to perfection.

It was such a cool move. And then the other game was even better, I would say, because, you know, the Michigan TCU game was chaos and you kind of like this. What are we even watching at this point? Ohio State, Georgia was just a great game of two teams that were so evenly matched. I mean, Ohio State, for as much shit as Ryan Day's gotten in the last month and he deserved a lot of it because he got whooped by Michigan again. Like there's no moral victories, but he kind of answered that they can play

on that level and it's not they might have like a Michigan problem, but they don't have a problem in terms of competing for national championships. CJ Stroud, that was an all time performance. This game had one of the craziest finishes when you take into account what was happening at the time in the world where I think everyone was looking at the clock and being like, wait, am I going to be able to change over to a countdown channel to see when it's going to strike midnight? It's going to go to 2023.

I bet you some couples broke up because of managing the television channel. There are definitely some big fights out there. Our guy, John Rich, was was live tweeting. He took the remote at the party he was at and he got caught by the host of the party with like two minutes left and was like getting away remote. They're like, put that shit back on Anderson Cooper. Yeah, right. We got to watch what Ryan Seacrest is doing. Oh, Mylon had a great party.

It was so funny watching right. The live cut in a half time when Ryan Seacrest like, here's who we got coming up. It's like, dude, no one cares. We don't care. This game rules. This this is the timing of the ending was so crazy that they snapped the ball in 2022. And when they blew the final whistle after the kick mist, it was 2023. Yeah. Didn't they switch these games so that they weren't on New Year's Eve? Am I crazy? They did.

But now because it's Sunday, they ran up to Sunday. So NFL Sunday, they didn't want to compete with that. It's much better not on New Year's Eve. I agree. Well, because there was probably a lot of people that just straight up had to miss the game that would have watched it otherwise. So I would agree. If I was, if I was just not a loser who had no life and I was sitting at home anyway, I was just sitting there thinking.

I remembered when it was on New Year's Eve and I did have a life and I went to a New Year's Eve party. It was Alabama, Michigan State. And that was one of the worst college football playoff games I've ever watched. Yeah. Like Oklahoma. And being like, fuck, like we, I burned all this. Like, hey, we got to be at a place with a TV for this. Like, fuck, I think I was just so happy that this game was played.

That was like one of the lowest rated bowl games ever. I think that in Washington, Alabama. So it was, I mean, the whole game was incredible. CJ Straub was incredible. Stetson Bennett. I, he, I thought he got over this because it was almost identical to the national championship game where there were moments in the first half where like the Stetson Bennett, just like, is this moment too big for him?

He's fucking 25 years old. Like what is going on right now? And then when they needed him the most in the fourth quarter, he had three touchdown drives and it was, he was like, Oh yeah, Stetson Bennett's pretty fucking good. He is actually very good. And I think he's gotten faster over the years. Yeah.

He's moving around better in the pocket. Ugly crier. Very ugly crier. Ugly crier after the game. And, and we should say that Kirby smart now goes down in history as the greatest timeout of all time. The timeout for the fake punt, I do, I do appreciate Ohio state fans still saying that it would happen after the, the, the snap, even though they have,

they literally have a simulcast ESPN, you know, does it on like 17 channels. They had the simulcast where they're following the coaches and then the game is in the right box and you can see him call the timeout, I don't know, solid like five seconds before the snap. The ref was a little slow on it. It was a little slow, but the graphics department was slow. It goes down. I mean, I, I, I treated last night, Chris Weber, worst timeout ever,

Kirby smart. That has to be the best timeout ever because the game probably ends there. If, if Ohio state gets that first down on the fake punt, they then punt and they're able to come back. It was, I mean, it was a genius, genius play. Yeah. It was, it was an awesome end of that game. That was, it was a, a life affirming Saturday of college football. Some people were, some people were saying that the Alabama, Kansas state game

was going to be the best game by far all day. Well, Iowa, Kentucky was pretty awesome. Iowa, I want to just give a lot of respect to what Iowa does just as a state and as a football program. How, in anybody that spends their time watching Iowa football a year, like you deserve, you should be eligible for USAA. If you, if you sit down and you watch every single Iowa football snap, because they, they find weird ways to win, but then you go back and you think

about their season and you have no idea how they scored a single point. Yeah. So Kentucky's offense on, uh, Saturday, these are their drives punt, punt, punt, punt, pick six, punt, punt, pick six, punt, punt, punt, turn over on downs, punt, turn over on downs. You know, respect. I mean, respect. I will wave to the kids, wave to the kids. I knew when it was 14, nothing that it was, the game was over. And, uh, yeah, but yeah, Bryce Young was incredible. He was dropping dimes. I don't want to say that I've been watching Bryce Young and CJ Stroud. It's like, these guys are going to be really fucking good in the NFL. And CJ Stroud using his legs, which he, it's, it's insane that

I don't know if Ryan Day told them or if it was a game plan, like Ryan Day called a perfect game. CJ Stroud does not run even though he's fast. And he, he was, he should, he should start running a lot more. Maybe they were just saving it for that moment. But I was, I walked away being like Ohio State, like again, you never are happy or you're never like happy after a loss like that. But at least all those questions that were happening in the last month after you got lost to Michigan, you kind of answered them all being like, yeah, we're still an elite program that's, you know, top five and can compete for national championships. I think what it comes down to, and you know more about the big 10 than I do, so stop me if I'm

wrong on this, but I feel like Michigan was designed specifically. They were re-engineered to beat Ohio State to win that game. And then that the rest of that division that they play in is kind of dog shit. So they're able to kind of, they're able to use their superior recruiting and bigger people generally to just shove everybody around, but they were built to beat Ohio State. They ran into problems with TCU because TCU does not play a style of football that Michigan was designed to beat. Ohio State is designed to beat everybody else except for Michigan. Yeah. No, Ohio State's definitely like the way they've, they've built their program up. It's to compete for national titles. The only thing I would say is that Michigan, I wouldn't say

Michigan was designed to win a national title too, just in a different way because in the 1980s. No, no, no, but they, they, they, like they've kind of, they're not like an Iowa or Wisconsin. Like they're, they're a real deal and they run a real offense. It's just that game against TCU, I just, I throw my hand up. I'm like, you can't, it just kind of, like it got crazy. You can't, if they play that game again, I think TCU can still win it, but I just, like I said, the turnovers, seven turnovers all year, and then they had three in one night. Things got out of hand. It just, so I wouldn't say, like, I wouldn't, it's not some existential crisis that Jim Harbaugh has to like figure out. Like they just got beat and it was a crazy game

and they were set up. I think they would have given Georgia a good game. I, you know, they obviously could beat Ohio State. So I think Michigan's right there on the doorstep of winning a national title. It's just hard to win these college football playoff games. Now people going to throw a bag at Harbaugh too. Yeah. Denver's batting their eyes at them. Colts. Colts are going to bat their eyes at them. Yeah. He'll be interested in what happens. But yeah, great night in college football. Also just a great night to just shut up any losers who were like NIL and transfer portal. Like, yeah, transfer portal, if you look, probably helped that, like those teams and makes everyone a little bit more competitive. Yeah. I mean, college football has

us by the balls. Yeah. We're going to watch. I love it. You can put on New Year's Eve. You can put literally at the stroke of midnight and we're going to watch it now. There's something about college football. I know I love NFL, but like when college football is at its peak, I just, I think there's nothing. It's, it's kind of borderline romantic. Like when I watch a great college football game, like this is just, it just feels like you're watching history. I think because there's more variables about what can happen. Well, it's the bands. It's the, it's the, it's the history. It's just everything. Yeah. It's something about college football. It's just, I don't know. It's NFL is, it's kind of like what troops told us when he said that, you know,

NBA is a business, NFL's business football is a sport. Like there is a little bit of that with college football versus the other leagues where, and people say, well, NIL has made it a business, but NFL is just everything, everything. You wouldn't get the TCU Michigan game in an NFL playoff game because everyone's just better and safeties don't make mistakes and guys don't run for 80 yard touchdowns. I mean, the Kansas city Buffalo game was pretty close. That was close, but it was also, that was, remember that game was not that like, yeah, it was, it happened, it got away for like five minutes, but that was, that was also one of the best, like you could have that happen pretty much any night in a college football game. Yeah. All right. Hank,

your who's back. Sorry. It was a longer who's back. We hadn't talked about college football because it was awesome. Who's back is jumpsuit January. You like it? You like it? It is nice. You guys kind of abandoned jumpsuit January a few years ago. Wait, what do you mean by you guys? You two both. I never abandoned jumpsuit January. I said specifically jumpsuit January is about being comfortable and sometimes I'm comfortable in jeans. I will wear jeans at some point this, this January. Hank, I've never abandoned jumpsuit January. There's, there's a, I've already lost, I've already had my phone fall out of my pocket like six times. There'll be a random Thursday. I'll show up in jeans because I want to be comfortable and hold on to my wallet. I fucking

ride or die for jumpsuit January is my favorite. It's birthday month. Hank, I love this. I love this shit. I live for this. I don't know if you were going to mention that. It's birthday month. Happy birthday to us. It is birthday month. Oh, thank you for remembering. It's also January six. Yeah. Yeah. Month for all of us. Well, it's my birthday. And is your birthday? Yeah, my birthday is January. What's, what's the date? Thirteen. I knew that. It's birthday month. Yeah. I don't really like birthday month anymore. It's birthday month, baby. How old are you gonna be? 24? Yeah, dude, I'm kidding. Whoa, Billy. 24. That actually hurt you a little bit because I feel like the Billy Riders. I'm a Billy Rider. That's why you're here. Always like, he's a 22 year old

kid. Leave him alone. Yeah. I might have to grow up. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that, Billy. You won't be able to. Yeah, Billy. You gotta grow up. Grow up. Yeah. It's starting now. You're an adult. January 13th. Billy, you just have to wear a suit and a briefcase. Yeah. Pack your lunch. Going to work every day. Oh, no. January 13th is Friday the 13th. I know. You're gonna fuck up big time. And it's also gonna be a Friday for Billy's birthday. Holy shit. You're gonna go out so hard. We won't see you for wild card weekend on that Saturday. That's gonna be St. Patrick's Day all over again. Yeah. Well, we're not doing anything on that Saturday, right? Well, it's wild card weekend. Working. Yeah, they will. But that's okay. They just got eliminated

from the playoffs. Sorry to announce it again. We're not doing anything except for work. Yeah. Sweet. Yeah. So you'll be good. No, Hank, I love jumpsuit January. I've never given up on it. It's my favorite month of the year. It's so comfortable. I thought about doing suit January to kind of play with the suit joke, but that's way too much. You should wear whatever makes you comfortable. Jumpsuits make me comfortable. I got too serious when everyone's like, Oh, that's not a jumpsuit. Oh, like it's a sweatshirt and sweatpants. So what? People took it too seriously. Just wear what makes you comfortable. Yeah. I also have no full kit. So I'll get you some. I got you, bro. Don't worry about it. When I got you guys jumpsuits for Christmas and they stayed in the studio for

the whole year until Billy cleaned it and took them. Do you want to tell the whole story? Sure. You got me a three XL and also the fucking detector when you like leave Macy's was still attached to it. Did you steal it? No. I think you stole it. You wanted you left that part out. I don't know that it was a three XL. It was still has it. I took the thing off it. Yeah. And you gave me a gift that literally is like, Hey, I stole this for you. I did not steal it, but it had it on it. Okay. You still didn't wear it. Actually, I would, I would appreciate a stolen gift more than I would appreciate if you bought for me. If you steal something, then I know that you put your heart into it. I was swimming in it. You basically like here, fat ass, take this stolen

gift. Walk around with this. So you maybe go to jail. Do you know what's the worst part when I took it off the thing? Some of the ink. Oh, of course. God. I can't wear it out because people would think I stole it. Yeah. Sick gift. Wow. You made it all look like criminals. I'm going to get you a jumpsuit January gift. I'm excited. Okay. I am too. It's going to be great. Yeah. It's going to be the best jumpsuit you've ever worn. I'm sure. Okay. Will you wear it up in the C suite? Yeah. If it comes in January. There's a dress code on the third floor. Gene's Friday. There's not. All right. PFT. My who's back. I have two, if that's okay. Yeah. First is fantasy drama. Specifically Jerry O'Connell's fantasy drama. Uh-oh. So somehow, some way,

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry has gotten our team into the finals of our league. Somehow, some way. He's a genius. He's a beast. So Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, if we win this, we as a group get $25,000 because it's a big money league. So we've told Jerry and it all comes down to tonight. So we have Joe Burrow on our team and whoever it is we're playing. I forget who it is. What's the score? It has Josh Allen. We're down by 10. Oh. So we need Joe Burrow to outdual Josh Allen on monetary football. Okay. Get 10 more points. If that happens, we get 25 grand boys and we're inviting Jerry O'Connell to New York and we're going to take him out on a shopping spree. And also a football watching spree. We were talking about it last

night in the group chat. I want Jerry, I want to get him a first class ticket to New York to watch NFL football with us. He can pick whichever Saturday, Sunday, whatever he wants to do. Sometime in the playoffs, just sit and watch football. I want to go. I want to do a model wife, not invited. I want to know. Ew, gross. Yeah. I want to go do a Brewster's millions things where we just go to a toy store. Yeah. And just Jerry just decides what kind of toys to buy until he spends 25 grand. We should actually just do that at like a lids or somewhere we can get jerseys. Oh, lids would be. See how much jerseys you can get. Yeah. Claire's. Yeah. Yeah. I like your Hibachi idea. Oh yeah. We should get, yeah. We're going to get, we're going to go to, we're

rent out a Hibachi place. Oh, Hibachi would be good. Or Margaritaville. Imagine us all in just random NFL jerseys at a Hibachi place, just the boys. That'd be great. Hot topic. How fast do you think that Jerry, would it be possible to spend $25,000 in a Spencer's gifts? Yes. I want to find out. You might have to legally buy one of the workers. That's fine. But yes, we can make that happen. Yes. I'm going to say yes. What do you say, Billy? What Billy? Pretty sure like they have life-sized dolls in there. Oh yeah. Life-sized dolls. You just end up with 25 life-sized dolls. Life-sized dolls. Yeah, life-sized dolls. Alright, we'll take a look at that. I'm entertained. My other hot seat, top G, my other hot seat, or my who's back, is just being in really

good shape because it's New Year's. Yep. And we are officially starting to become a hot bod podcast right now. Hard bod. Hard bod. We're going to, join me, hard bod. I'm going buns of anarchy. Is that hot bod or hard bod? No, we're going to be hard bodies in 2023. Hank has the peloton. I'm getting back on the peloton. All are welcome to join. Buns of anarchy. We're riding tonight before Monday Night Football. We're going to ride at seven. We're going to post follow Buns of anarchy on Twitter, so we'll post the official schedule. But the bottom line is this podcast is going to be fucking sexy as shit by the end of January. We're getting Super Bowl abs. Yeah. I'm going to be hard body city. Max and I are about to fucking, we're going to be beast. My strategy. Hank

doesn't believe my strategy is just eat, eat, uh, kava every day and then ride on a peloton. That's about it. Yep. Yep. No Sunday. No, no bad food. No, no, we're going healthy. We get is a teamwork thing. Also stay hydrated. Stay hydrated. That's very important. What are we doing next Sunday? Salads? Yeah, what does that look like? Greek. Chirping chicken, just chicken. Chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken. But it comes with a lot of pita bread. Yeah, nervous bird. We got to throw the, we got to throw the pita bread out. That's probably why Carson Wentz is nervous in the pocket. Yeah. He's eating. He's too much duck. Yeah. That just got shot. Yeah. The last thing, it just has super. He's got wounded duck energy. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Whoa. All right, Billy.

Who's back is Poe, the Ravens mascot. Yes. He was never injured. No, he was. No, I don't, I, I saw what happened tonight. He hopped up. He hopped up. I don't think he was ever injured. I think it was a long con. Well, he did get hurt the first time. I don't, I think that was all a show. I think it was all built up for this moment because they brought him out for this game, the, the highest energy game of the year. I just think that they rigged it. I don't think that Poe, and they also introduced two other mascots this year. So it seemed like they were ready for it. That's all I'm saying. It was a great Kevin Nash bit. Stay woke. Jake finishes off. My who's back is John Cena. He wrestled for the first time in more than a year. His streak is now every year.

He's had a match since 2000. Wow. He beat the buzzer. And so we're hearing guests. It's interesting that right when he wrestled, Barbara Walters died. Let's not talk about that. I know that's what I'm saying. It seemed like we can joke around all we want and we can do a little wrestling thing, but let's have some respect for a dead journalist icon. Agreed. Agreed. I thought it was in poor taste that John Cena continued to wrestle. Agreed. Agreed. Okay. That's a show. Drum roll. This is a great grand finale. Here's the grand finale. So here's what's at stake. Everyone has followed along. We'd said Hank, he gets till the new year to win the lottery ball machine, which have you ever won it? No. Okay. No. Just wanted to make sure. Yep. The jets are

eliminated from the playoffs and have you ever won this? I have not. Okay. I have never won. So if Hank wins this one, PFC and I own $5,000 combined. If he doesn't, he owes us $5,000. Now we talked about it before. I don't really want to take your money. I do want to take his money, but I'm not going to because it'll make me seem like a nice guy. Yeah. Well, I just don't want to take his money because I listen, like he's got golf to play. I don't know. I'm down. Listen, I'm not, I don't, I don't want to sound like I'm getting out of the bed. No, no, you are not. You are not. I wanted specific. You're not. I thought it would be interesting because you got to always evolve and figure out what's next. I threw out the idea that if you do not get this,

Hank, I think that everyone in this room on Sundays, we put $20 into a jar and that becomes the pot and it just rolls over. So every week you put in $20 and if anyone hits it, they get the pot and Hank has to match the pot. So then I would take your money. That's fine. Are you okay with that? Yeah. Cause then it would be exciting. If anyone else got it, they get, they get the whole pot and Hank matches up to $5,000. I'm fine with that. I also threw it out. It also just the idea of you having to give like Billy or Jake money would be so fucking awesome. Quick question. Is it $20 each? $20 each. $20 each every week. And Billy, I know the next question you don't have to play, but you're not going to win. Right. You can absolutely

sit out. Can I Venmo? No, you're going to make this. Cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash. We actually have a safe. I think Mem's got a safe. He's scared of cash. He's going to throw it. So he doesn't have to deal with cash. Yeah. So Hank, what's your strategy? Cause I think you have a strategy, which is, it's hilarious that you have a strategy for picking a number between one and a hundred. Yeah. And also we should just say, uh, when I hit the machine and the balls all flew out with Tom Fresneli right before break, they put them all back in. We couldn't find the three ball which Hank has never guess what Tom Fresneli guess, which was what Tom Fresneli guess, which we Hank has never guessed. I don't think cause that's memes number. Uh, so memes got screwed.

Hank denied screwed. Actually Hank got, it was actually in his favor because it's less balls he has to guess right. Sure. So you're even worse at this than what I'm watching history. So just want that on the record. So Hank can't say, oh, this is bullshit. What is your strategy, Hank? Um, I, we sat down over Christmas, my family. It was a, it was a big topic of conversation. My dad throughout this idea, you know, it's all, it's all you got left. Vin Diesel, you got a role with family. My sister had a child, her first child on 10, 13. My brother's wife had a child on 11, 23, 23 plus 34, 57, 57, 23 plus 34, 57. Wait, what's the 34? Wait, 11 plus 20, 11, 23. So 10, 13 is 23.

Yeah. 11, 23 is 34. Yeah. 23 plus 34, 57. Honestly, I gotta say like, I'm a little scared. I think you're going to get it. 57 is a good number. Family. It's a good number. How many times is 57 hit? I've processed this and I'm pretty confident saying you're not going to get it because you fucking suck at this so bad. It's a three time champion, but it's Hank. It's a good number. He can't get it right. He's so bad at this. The funny part is when Hank gets this right, which he, which he will cause 57 is a fucking lock. Everybody's going to say that this was totally set up. And since it's the last one, they're not ever going to believe that you got it right. Yeah. But also good news because you're not going to get it right because you're Hank,

but he has a one in 99 chance that I've won 100. Yeah, that's true. Better chance. All right. I'm going to go with 17. Quick, quick crowdsource thing on that. If anyone looks back to any of the YouTube's and sees number three, we're trying to figure out when it may have been lost going through old ones. So just maybe a group effort. Quick crowdsource. Billy, what percentage of your job do you think is crowdsource that you put out? AI and crowdsource. APB for the number three ball. So your strategy, like instead of looking all around this room was to ask, no, I looked forward to watch every episode before break before break. Jake and I counted every single ball when they all flew out and we were looking for them. All right. Hey,

what's your birthday in June 13th? Yeah. Did I nail that? Is it right? Is that right? Jake, can you find that for me? It is. I just go back to the day we forgot about the pop ideas. I'm not lying. It is. I think you're lying. That's rude. It was a Sunday. June 13th. Okay. So 19. June 13. 19. Six plus 13 equals 19. That's my family. I'm keeping it in the family. You don't want to include one plus 14 or one plus 13 for Billy's birthday. You should do that. You should do that. I'll go 14 for Billy's birthday. Yeah. Family. Family. Family. My family. What are you doing, Max? You want to do one of our birthdays? 31 or 32? Why not both? Yeah, I'll give you both. My favorite dates in January, which is both your birthdays and January 6th. So it's 69.

Oh, okay. There we go. Good job. Good job, Billy. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. Yeah. One, six, 31, 30. Yes. 30 plus 31 plus six. Yeah. Got it. You got it. Nope. Never mind. Nope. That's 68. Yeah, that's 68. The last one for our guy, Sebastian. It is. So yeah, 72. I'm rooting for Sebastian. This is his last tense. You're not going to get it. Why are we, why do you, you know what's crazy? Hank thinks he's going to get it. Big Cat, do you want to let Hank press the button? You want to press the button? No. No, Hank, you should. No. You should. I don't like the tricks you guys have been pulling. This is, this is the opposite. I'm doing 19. Let's just recap. 19. 14. 14. Billy, you have 68. Oh, no. I mean, you just said our favorite.

Okay, let's go 68. Let's go 68. Jake. 18. Max and 72. Max. 31 and 32. Yeah, yeah, both. 57. 57. A lot of numbers. What he's going to get for sure. Where's 31? Where's 31 and 32 coming from? No, 31, 31. Okay. So he got, he got both. All right. You really think you're going to get it? You're not going to get it. You're not going to get it. Oh my God. Oh my God. Why are you nervous, Jake? You guys are not nervous. But you guys are losing your mind. Hank doesn't get this. He will never get it. He will never get it. 54. You suck. Sorry. You suck. Sorry. You're never going to get it. Was it close? You are so bad at this. Wow. Six time. Oh, it's close. I saw the five. I have one question for you. Why couldn't your sister have that baby three days earlier?

Nope. My one question was, have you ever thought about just picking the right number? That's my New Year's resolution. Is picking the right number so you're 0 for 1. Yep. All right. So we're starting the pot on Wednesday. So everyone bringing 20 bucks. The pot will start at 120. So if someone hits it on Wednesday or Friday, they get $240. And then we just keep going up from there. And we keep going up from there. And hopefully Hank has to give Max, Billy or Jake. I'm also probably going to splash the pot huge. What do you mean? I feel like it's only right. Put some good money in it. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's whatever you want to do. Can we make it five each? Billy, I'll cover you the first week. No, no. Okay. I'll do 20 each.

I'll do 20 each. It's literally just the dinner that we buy on Sunday. Just come a little earlier. You'll get lunch too. You don't have to play. You don't have to play. That is a fact. No, but I want to play. You don't have to play. You could just guess. Broke boys need not apply. Actually, New Year's resolution. I'm not being a broke boy. Oh, shit. My, my fingers are sick. Sorry. Just count? No. Come on. No. Come on. No. 69. Hank, I'll give you 1000 bucks if it's 57. 66. Damn, I wanted it to be 57. So bad. He would have, what would you have done? Rooftop. Drone something. Rooftop. Hideki. You'll never get it. You're never going to get it.

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