Plumbing the Death Star - Bugs Bunny: Friend or Foe

Episode Date: March 26, 2023

We all know Bugs Bunny. A anthropomorphic grey hare famous for his relaxed and passive personality. A mischievous trickster, chewing on his signature carrot while sprouting his famous catchphrase "Eh,... what's up, doc?”. Since his official debut in the 1940s Bugs has appeared in various short films, feature films, compilations, television series, music records, comic books, video games, award shows, amusement park rides, and commercials. When TV Guide compiled a list of the fifty greatest cartoon characters of all time as part of the magazine's 50th anniversary in 2002, Bugs Bunny was given the honour of Number One. As the editor stated “[He] is the best example...of the smart-aleck American comic. He not only is a great cartoon character, he's a great comedian. He was written well. He was drawn beautifully. He has thrilled and made many generations laugh. He is tops.” But that’s the public image. That’s what Bugs wants us to know. When it all comes down it, do we really know Bugs Bunny at all?Buy our terrible merch here and check out the Bad Brain Boys on Apple Podcasts at apple.co/badbrainboys. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ahem. Ahem. You're listening to the Sandspans Network. Uh, what's up, Doc? And welcome to this week's episode of Plumbing the Death Star. I'm Joel. I'm Jackson. And I'm also Joel. And this is the podcast where we ask the important questions like, Bugs Bunny.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Yeah, yeah. Everyone knows. Yibbity yibbity, that's all, folks. Eat my shorts. Did I do that? Maybe we don't know Bugs Bunny. That's not the guy? Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Damn you, woman! File woman! We know Stewie Griffith. Oh, we know Stewie Griffith. Giggity, giggity. Yabba dabba doo. Hey, it's me, Mr. Jetson. Meet my wife, Judy.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Jane! My wife! my wife Judy Jane my wife my wife Jane my boy Elroy we know Bugs Bunny very nice yeah that is true
Starting point is 00:01:15 while while we were while while we were Bugs Bunny it's on things labbit season very nice okay good start
Starting point is 00:01:23 if I could provide a running commentary for this episode Very nice. Okay, good start. If I could provide a running commentary for this episode, great beginning. Off to a flying start. A lot of impressions very quickly. If this was my first episode, I would want to hear more. That's my comment. That's good to hear, good to hear. So Bugs Bunny, I guess leader of the Looney Tunes? I suppose.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I suppose he's the leader, de facto leader of the Looney Tunes. He certainly is where they have a space jam. He's the leader all the time. In what other context? When they're back in action. Oh, fair. Have me there. I forgot about the time they were back in action.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Is he, I was going to say, because what I'd equate him to would be like a Kermit, but is he a more competent Kermit or a less competent Kermit? I think Kermit takes this is he a more competent Kermit or a less competent Kermit? I think Kermit takes this active role in looking after them up. Bugs Bunny is just this force of personality that all the other Looney Tunes gather around. Yeah. That he then torments. Yeah, some
Starting point is 00:02:15 try to fight it. Daffy, Elmer. Some embrace it. Lola? Yeah, Lola, Porky Pig, Tweety. Sylvester the Cat. Tweety, Sylvester the Cat, Marvin the Martian? No, Marvin does not tolerate it. Right, he has got no time.
Starting point is 00:02:30 He has the Tasmanian Devil, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But most people, I think, Bugs Bunny leaves in his wake. I think more people are hurt by Bugs Bunny in general than they are pleasured. So, okay, I guess a good way to... Yeah, so friend or foe, hurt or pleasured. Yeah, hurt or pleasured.
Starting point is 00:02:48 So I guess if Bugs was, say, an acquaintance of ours, because I want to use the word friend because that would be loaded. Yeah, that's true. That would be a loaded comment. So Bugs, maybe he's moved in either next door or across the street or something along those lines, and he wants to be part of the gang. Now, would we want to be able to, yeah, is it going to be a pleasuring experience? Or a painful experience?
Starting point is 00:03:13 I think it's going to be painful. I think Bugs Bunny, here's the thing about Bugs Bunny. He has the energy of a guy who will fuck your wife. Are you worried Bugs Bunny's going to fuck your wife? If I knew Bugs Bunny. See, Bugs Bunny has the energy of a guy that will fuck my wife and then somehow
Starting point is 00:03:31 entrap me to fuck him. Okay, you are describing a real life event that happened to someone that I know who was married to Betty Boop. And Bugs Bunny did try and fuck his wife. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:46 This fucking precedent. Bugs Bunny's a root rat. He's a snake in the grass. He just really wanted to have a threesome with Alec Robbins and his wife, Betty Boop. Fair enough, dude. An acquaintance of yours. Yeah, I know. Me and Betty went to high school together.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah, I know. I was just really happy to see her settle down. That's nice. That's nice. That's nice. Something about Bugs Bunny's energy. I don't know if it's more of a root rat. I would say Bugs is very much, he's always looking out for numero un. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 He's never looking out for anyone else. Absolutely. Or if he is, it's always framed in a way of it's always a Bugs Bunny positive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bugs Bunny never, nothing bad happens to Bugs Bunny. Then what bad thing? He gets hunted in rabbit season. Yeah, but then he quickly changes to bug season.
Starting point is 00:04:32 What happens to humble hunter man Elmer Fudd? Yeah. Our finger gets put in his gun and his gun explodes. How does he sound, Elmer Fudd? Do you know Elmer Fudd? Oh, yeah, yeah. Do you know Elmer Fudd? I like that one.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That was going great. I'm hunting rabbits. I'm a fun. Oh, yeah, yeah. I do. You're a fun. I like that one. That was going. I'm hunting wabbits. I'm hunting wabbits. Be very, very quiet. He kind of sounds like that. See, he almost sounds like an old baby. Whoa. I'm hunting wabbits.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Boy, I'm hunting wabbits. Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn. I'm in castle Blanco your arm of a fuck sounds like he's getting a handjob under the table yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:05:09 yeah are we are we which Bugs Bunny villain is getting the best handjob please stop that's PokéPig
Starting point is 00:05:23 it's an inappropriate time. Lunch. I say, I say, I say, I'm trying to eat here. Foghorn Leghorn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fabulous. Yeah, jerking off a giant chicken seems hard to do.
Starting point is 00:05:39 If I had to jerk off a giant chicken, I would be like, I am in hell. That's what has happened to me. I don't know what to do. I mean, I know we're pretty early in, but is this the most impressions we've ever done in a Formula Death star? Some podcasts are known for their impressions. We're not really, but I think this episode might change it. It's going to put us
Starting point is 00:05:55 on the map. Absolutely. So, Bugs Bunny, you're worried that he's looking out for numero uno. It's always him. Nothing bad ever happens to him. And I can feel in the room, everyone's leaning more towards that's pain than pleasure. He's faux. I am here to say that. Incorrect.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That's awesome. Because he's got like a chaotic mischievous energy. If you're friends with him, if you're like friends with him, he's like also going to be looking out for you. And also like you're going to get dragged into silly silly shenanigans yeah
Starting point is 00:06:27 Daffy is sometimes a piece of shit the bug so yeah Daffy sometimes rabbit season turns into duck season and Daffy's beak
Starting point is 00:06:34 gets shot around his head yeah yeah yeah he hates when that happens he definitely does would you not I don't have a beak if your mouth
Starting point is 00:06:41 got spun around to the back of your neck if my mouth got spun around to the back of your neck If my mouth Got spun around To the back of my head I would think That was fucking awesome You'd eat your own hair
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah That's sick I guess there's a question While we're witnessing A lot of I guess Bugs' Interactions with people Like Elmer Fudd
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like Daffy Duck They're all Really arguably Foes To Bugs Bunny There's never really A friend there Elmer's always hunting him, so
Starting point is 00:07:05 he's always going against Daffy's arrival. So who really? What have we seen that is friendly? Michael Jordan. He's friends with Michael Jordan. He's nothing but kind to Michael Jordan. He's also kind to his teammates in Space Jam.
Starting point is 00:07:22 He gives them Michael Jordan's secret sauce or whatever it's called, which just turns out to be water. I don't know if it's called Michael Jordan's secret sauce. It sounds like the Bugs Bunny was jerking off. No, just the same. Bugs Bunny jerking off Michael Jordan under the table. Wow, Space Jam's different from what I remember. But is that a friend, though?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Or, once again, is it Bugs trying to manipulate the situation? Yeah, but you do a thing with a friend, you're like, yeah, we did it together. It's not Bugs isn't like, I won Space Jam.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Well, no, but Bugs is more like, my whole town doesn't get got by space aliens. Yeah, my whole town. Whole town. He might be looking out for number one, but he's not being like,
Starting point is 00:08:02 I don't care if you destroy the town, just don't kill me. Well, true, but that's where all these things are.'t care if you destroy the town, just don't kill me. True, but that's where all his things are. Yeah, if we were in a situation. He lives in a hole. He's a rabbit. He lives in a hole.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I guess here's my question. Does Bugs have any friends? I don't think he does. What about Porky Pig? Porky Pig's his friend. Lola Bunny? Lola Bunny? The Tiny Toons?
Starting point is 00:08:28 When he's young, he's friends with Grandma or whatever her name is. Tweety. I don't know how he feels about Sylvester. They're kind of pretty separate. Porky Pig seems to be basically steamrolled by Bugs. He's the butters to Bugs Bunny's Eric Cartman. He's a doormat. Yeah, that's true. Porky Pig is a bit of a doormat. Yeah, Bunny's Eric Cartman? Yeah. He's a doormat. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Bucky Beaker's a bit of a doormat. What's up, Doc? I don't know. It's hard to do a Cartman and a Bugs Bunny at the same time. What are we going to do? Ma'am. Ma'am, what's up, Doc? What's up, Doc? Hey, what's up, Doc?
Starting point is 00:08:58 I am ma'am. Ma'am, it's rabbit season. This is the most impressions per second we've ever done in an episode. Ma'am, it's rabbit season. This is the most impressions per second we've ever done in an episode. Ma'am. Ma'am, dick season. No, it's rabbit season. Dick season. Dick season.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Rabbit season. Oh, my God. They shot Kenny's mouth around the back of his head. Those bastards. Cartman season. What? Where are we? Where have we found ourselves?
Starting point is 00:09:34 We're adrift, boys. So, okay, we're saying Bugs Bunny has no friends. I would argue that Bugs Bunny has no friends, yeah. Does that make him a friend of Odois? How does that impact that? It's just more of a story. Looking at his history to be like, well, he has actually no friends. So we've never really seen him in a relationship with someone
Starting point is 00:09:52 where he's a genuine friend with, right? Does. Is that Bugs Bunny's fault? Sometimes you can have no friends because you're a piece of shit. Sometimes you think, oh, I have no friends. Why does no one like me? The problem is you. Sometimes the common factor in all your failed relationships Sometimes you think, oh, I have no friends, why does no one like me? The problem is you. Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like, the common factor in all your failed relationships happens to be you. You, exactly. Yeah, maybe, like, hey, you're sitting there. You're you, and that's the problem. Sometimes you're sitting there, you're being like, oh, I'm such a nice guy, but actually you're not a nice guy and you suck shit. Yeah, exactly. Is that what we're seeing with Bugs Bunny?
Starting point is 00:10:20 If Bugs Bunny sat Daffy Duck down and he was like, hey, Duck, I'm sorry that you always feel like you're in my shadow or whatever. I'd like to have a respectful relationship with you. How does Daffy Duck sound? No, that's Donald. But Daffy's kind of got the same energy, yeah. Yeah. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Shut the fuck up. Oh, my God. Perfect. You sounded sick, Daffy. You made me sick. You can't believe how sick I am. Oh, no. Daffy's the choker.
Starting point is 00:10:53 We live in a society. We live in a society, Bugs. Do you want to know how I got these scars? Bugs, what are you doing? Do you want to know how I got these scars? A fucking hunter shot me in the beak. Duck season. During fucking weather season. Well, it's chopping the beak. Duck season. During fucking rabbit season.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Well, it's meant to be. Duck season. Yeah. It's something I noticed. Let me just tell you. Yeah, wow. He is the Joker. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Huh. Bugs is Batman? I am denied, Doc. No, but here's the thing. Elmer Fudd hunts both Bugs and Daffy. Yeah, depending on what the sign tells him to hunt. Exactly. He is a slave to rules.
Starting point is 00:11:34 To rules. To rules. To the law of man. Yeah, but say a little about Elmer Fudd. He is a lawful creature. Absolutely. Now, has Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck ever teamed up to stop Elmer Fudd? No.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They are divided. I feel like yes is probably the answer. Never happened. Not even once in my memory. Dude, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of every episode of The Looney Tunes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always concrete playing in the back of my head. If I enter my mind palace, I cannot find an episode where they team up
Starting point is 00:12:06 to take on Elmofart. I'm just thinking whenever, say, Bugs meets anyone new, he's never really... Daffy Duck is Bugs Bunny's roommate and best friend, according to the Looney Tunes show Wikipedia. Well, maybe in the Looney Tunes show. I'm just trying to think, when he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:24 I took a wrong turn in Albuquerque, and that whole thing like, when he, you know, he's like, oh, I took a wrong turn in Albuquerque. Yeah. And that whole, like, thing, the same sort of show where he, like, saws off Florida
Starting point is 00:12:31 from the rest of the United States. A great thing for a being to do. Or a great move if you are the rest of the United States from what I can gather. Well, yeah, that is true. Well, that's the friend
Starting point is 00:12:40 and foe issue, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Friend to the rest of the United States, foe to Florida. Or they're like, maybe the Floridians are like, good. Well, we're an island now. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Tricky. He also, that's another thing I don't like about Donald Duck. Daffy bugs money. Yeah. Another thing I don't like about Donald Duck. Doesn't wear pants. Makes me sick. Yeah, he was a soldier, though, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:06 He was in the army. Daffy's joined the army, too. Bugs has probably been in the army. I think Bugs probably slapped Hitler at one point. Yeah, I can imagine that. But no, the thing about Bugs Bunny is that he has these powers, unchecked. He can cut off Florida. He can go in a hole in one place and appear in a hole somewhere else miles away.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Lots of Looney Tunes have unchecked powers. Well, I don't like the way Bugs uses his. How does he use his? He uses his... He's too cocky about it. He's too... He's unchecked. It feels like the rest of them are checked by their personality issues. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Whereas Bugs tends to kind of be very much just... He kind of does what he wants when he wants without anyone kind of be very much just, he kind of does what he wants when he wants without anyone kind of telling him what to do. Like that one episode where even the person illustrating Bugs is trying to basically erase Bugs, but Bugs fights him. Yeah, that's scary. That's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Fighting your creator? That's like fighting your mom. That's just not on. That's a fucked up thing to do. Yeah. Imagine getting into a's like fighting your mom. That's just not on. That's a fucked up thing to do. Yeah. Imagine getting into a fist fight with your mom and being like, where am I? How have I arrived at this point? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah, so look, Bugs Bunny fighting his creator. I mean, come on. His own creator wished to erase him. That's faux. What about- Faux right there. What about when Daffy Duck takes off his bill? Is that the ultimate betrayal? Not a real duck, maybe?
Starting point is 00:14:28 It's fucked up, yeah. It looks bad. What are the implications of that? Well, his powers were unchecked. Does he still have a little mouth? Yeah, hang on, I'll show you a photo. Daffy. I didn't have it ready to go. You need to have it ready to go, dude. I need to see
Starting point is 00:14:44 Daffy Duck's little mouth hidden under the bill. I think what makes him more of a foe to me is that I think Bugs is very manipulative. Yes. So Bugs, and this is the thing, Bugs is very good at reading situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And so, JD, you're showing us his terrible, terrible face? Yeah, that's horrible, dude. Jackson doesn't like it. That was really horrible. He needs that big horrible, dude. Jackson doesn't like it. That's really horrible. He needs that big. He looks like the Grinch's shadow. He does look like the Grinch's shadow. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 What about this when he's being blown up and the big's yelling at him? Does that make you feel better? Yeah, because he's suffering. That is good. So with Bugs, I guess manipulating the situation. Yeah. Because there are times, I think, where he does actually save Daffy from Alma.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Okay. Where he tries to convince Alma that Daffy is not, in fact, a duck, but he's a skunk or he's a pigeon or those kind of things. And I guess, yes, he's doing it to save Daffy's life, which is very, very good. But he's very much manipulating the situation and he can kind of read it all. Why am I arguing this is a bad thing? No, he's a friend. He's a friend to Daffy. life, which is very, very good. But he's very much manipulating the situation and he can kind of read it all. Why am I arguing this is a bad thing? No, he's a friend. He's a friend to Daffy.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's pretty good. And also something that I sat on that I found out when I found out that Daffy lives with Bugs. Bugs doesn't charge Daffy rent. Wow. The only good landlord? Well, it's his house too. Like, I mean, it's like they're renting together.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Bugs might also have a landlord. Okay. So Bugs is the only person paying rent. Maybe. That's a strange situation there. Why? Is Daffy skint? Is he too broke? Daffy pays in Bugs' amusement apparently.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Like a jester. That's fucked up, dude. Foe! Foe! You got on somebody and you're like, oh, does he pay rent? I don't know if he doesn't pay rent, but he makes me laugh. He tumbles around giddily. No, it's like if they does it play right but he makes me laugh He tumbles around giddily No
Starting point is 00:16:26 If they make you laugh I'm making me to nail No If he makes you laugh just by doing normal stuff fine but if you like perform for me
Starting point is 00:16:34 Well because it's about to be like yes he can you know he manipulates situations so it's like hey I'm a fud Daffy is like
Starting point is 00:16:40 you know he's not a duck or whatever but then at the same time he does convince sometimes when it is not duck season that it is duck season so that that figure is shot in the head. He's fucking shooting you in the balls with one hand and jerking you off with the other.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. Come on. That's fucked up. I'm just trying to enjoy luck. Who's getting the best hand job and gunshot under the table. Yeah, it's this weird thing. It's almost, it's this kind of, yeah, I don't know how to feel. If I was Daffy Duck, I'm like, he doesn't, he's not letting,
Starting point is 00:17:14 he's giving me a bit of a free ride. Yeah. But Daffy doesn't back. But I guess there is no such thing as a free ride because, yeah, he's shooting me in the nuts. Yeah, exactly. But Daffy doesn't back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Sometimes it'll be duck season and all of a sudden it's rabbit season. So is the real victim Elmo Fudd? Yeah, he doesn't know who to shoot. Also, who cares? It's a rabbit and a duck. He should be able to shoot them. Well, it depends. They're fucking pests.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Well, not ducks. Nobody's out there saying ducks are pests, but there are too many rabbits. Well, again, it depends what season it is as well. Because, for example, if it is duck season, that means that maybe there is an overpopulation of ducks, and yes, the ducks are now being ordained to be shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:54 where time's a lien for ducks, and there's like, you know, there's a scarcity of ducks and it's actually now rabbit season as opposed to duck season. Therefore, ducks should be protected because they're needed, and there's bugs being like, well, no, it's actually duck season. Exactly. So worst period of time to attack a duck
Starting point is 00:18:09 would be rabbit season. I don't think there's any time when there is a lean time for rabbits. Exactly. There's never a time you need to worry about hunting rabbits. You could go and throw a rock at a rabbit right now. No consequences. As far as I know.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Have a delicious meal. You can eat some rabbits. In Australia, because we've poisoned a lot of our wildlife. Myxomatosis. Yeah. Can you eat that? Can you eat myxomatosis? Well, rabbit infested ears.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I know what myxomatosis is. It makes rabbits die. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you were like,, say for example, you're a big fuckwit. I'm going to go hunt. Hang on, I'm getting character. It's me, Jackson. I'm like, I want to do my best Alma fight and I'm going to try and hunt a rabbit with a rock. And maybe you see something over there in the bushes.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Like, oh, there must be a rabbit. You huck your rock and you go, oh, there must be a rabbit. You huck your rock. And you go over there. And there's a dead rabbit. Dead from myxomatosis. Not the rock. But you're a fuckwit. So you're like, I got it.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I got it with my rock. I'm going to eat it. Yeah. Do I die? What happened? Do you know? Or is it like one of the situations where myxomatosis only affects rabbits? We can have as much of it as we want.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah, we can eat not just... Sounds like you want situations where myxomatosis only affects rabbits. We can have as much of it as we want. Yeah, we can eat not just... Sounds like you want to eat myxomatosis. You can have as much myxomatosis in your system as you'd like. Yeah, it's actually good for humans. It's like a vitamin. Vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin myxomatosis. Here's a question. Well, here's something instead of a question.
Starting point is 00:19:42 How would you like to hear from Bugs Bunny in first-person address almost exactly this topic? I'm scared to. Some people call me cocky and brash, but I am actually just self-assured. I'm nonchalant, imperpetual, contemplative. I play it cool, and I can get hot under the collar. And above all, I'm a very aware character. I'm well aware that I'm appearing in an animated cartoon, and sometimes I chomp my carrot for the same reason that a stand-up comic chomps in his cigar
Starting point is 00:20:09 it saves me from rushing the last joke to the next one too fast and sometimes i don't act i react i always treat the contest with my pursuers as fun and games when momentarily i appear cornered or in dire danger and i scream, don't be concerned. It's actually a big put on. Let's face it, Doc. I've read the script and I already know how it turns out. Well, that's even more terrifying. Foe! Foe! Foe!
Starting point is 00:20:36 Cecil Turtle beats him all the time, though. Who's Cecil Turtle? He's the turtle that beats bugs. Do an impression of him. I'll show you a picture of him. I can't remember how he talks. I imagine he's pretty slow. How do you think he would talk? Yeah, what do you imagine?
Starting point is 00:20:49 That's me, Cecil Turtle. Okay, that is pretty good. That is what a turtle would sound like. Yeah, fair enough. Is this from the same one where, like, when Bugs gets a race or whatever, but then it ends up Bugs being in control? Cecil Turtle looks like a fucking idiot. He looks kind of like if he was Franklin the Turtle's
Starting point is 00:21:06 fucked up grindad. What about that? Yuck. He looks like a dinosaur. I love Cecil Turtle. Here's a new version of him. What the hell? They gave him a lightbulb head.
Starting point is 00:21:20 That's fucked up, dude. They messed up Cecil bad. They fucked up our boy. My boy? So, yeah, there's an episode, I think, it's the same one where it's like the creator's gonna raise him out, but
Starting point is 00:21:35 it's revealed that it's actually Bugs in control. He's the one that's kinda making, like, painting everything. And, like, yeah, he fucks up Daffy a lot. He, like, you know, basically draws him his blue skin. He wants him to be an painting everything and like yeah he fucks up that uh daffy a lot he like you know uh basically draws him his blue blue skin yeah he wants to be an avatar back on board oh no foe foe bugs bunny is aware he lives in a simulated reality and therefore he doesn't he doesn't
Starting point is 00:21:59 think that the people that he lives in this reality with have like... Is Neo the... It's like if Neo was like, Trinity, you're not even real, and shot her in the head. Yeah. Or whacked her mouth around to the back of her head. Yeah, it wouldn't be like... It would be violently non-violent in a weird way. Because it'd be like, you're not even real. Grab their finger, then stretch it, pull it back,
Starting point is 00:22:21 and it'd snap back like a lacquer beam. Yeah, exactly. Scary. Yeah. Yeah. So imagine... Okay, and it'd snap back like a lack of band. Yeah, exactly. Scary. Yeah. Yeah. So imagine, okay, yeah. So it is like, okay, you have someone who is like, okay, my world is a simulation.
Starting point is 00:22:33 It's not really reality. Yeah. And I already know what's coming up because I've read the script. I know what's going on. So I'm just going to take everything like I don't give a shit. I've become very much almost that like not quite nihilistic outlook. very much like nothing none of it matters really none of it none of it has a real impact we are real people there is that idea of look if nothing matters then what you give like what you make matter that is what matters yeah yeah yeah so what you put like you know your time
Starting point is 00:23:02 effort energy into because if nothing matters well let's make something matter. Whereas Bugs is like, well, nothing matters. That includes you all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I don't care about all of you. Faux! So he's using his benevolence. Because not everyone else realizes that they're in a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Only really Bugs. And so he's using that power. I mean, Porky Pig knows he's in a cartoon. Because he says, that's all folks. He's saying goodbye to whilst the audience. What the hell are the implications? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Because the implication of Porky Pig though against a cartoon, that's even sadder because he's like, my life is a simulation
Starting point is 00:23:47 and I'm going to be Porky Pig. Somewhat meek. And a doormat to buy. Porky Pig just doesn't seem like he's living a great life. No, he's got a cool little jacket. A little bow tie. He seems like there should be two other pigs.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Like he comes from a three little pigs situation. Maybe he did at some point. There's no way of knowing. Big Bad Wolf probably ate them. There is one thing we do know, though. That is on the 9th of April, 1949, there was a short ad where the entire US Army declared war on Bugs Bunny.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Oh my God. Enemy of the nation. Bugs Bunny ends up in Alcatraz. Do they give him the chair? They don't give him the chair. Basically what happens is he notices that there's a high bounty on bears and foxes but only a two cent bounty on rabbits. So he mails
Starting point is 00:24:33 himself to Washington and it's like I'll show them that rabbits can be obnoxious and dangerous. So he becomes a domestic terrorist to prove a point. Yep. And then his bounty gets put up to a million dollars. And the army go after him. They call in the military to attack one individual on US soil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Bugs now satisfied with his $1 million bounty on his head, has his Tarzan yell interrupted by the whole US army coming after him, much to his horror. Bugs then dives into a foxhole as the artillery shells surround the foxhole. Bugs then says, could it be that I carried this thing too far just so the shell explodes? And that cuts to Alcatraz Island where Bugs, in his jail cell,
Starting point is 00:25:17 finally remarks, eh, could be. So it just ends with him in prison. Yeah. Forever. I guess Bugs also doesn't really understand consequences How does he understand How far to take something Because here's the thing
Starting point is 00:25:31 In the next episode he's out He already knows He doesn't care Let the US Army shell him with artillery Whatever for Bugs He's kind of like a A force of nature No because he's more like a god He's kind of like a... A force of nature? No, because he's more like a god.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Oh, he's kind of like the wind. Yeah, Bugs Bunny is the wind. Yeah. Sometimes it's extra windy. He's very much sentient about everything that's going on. It's like he could have a conversation to the wind, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he could have a conversation to all these other Looney Tunes
Starting point is 00:26:02 and be like, hey, you're not in the reality. Yeah, he never tells them. But he uses it for his advantage. But it's also like you don't have that communication with gods. He could have a conversation to all these other Looney Tunes and be like, hey, you're not in the reality. Yeah, he never tells them. But he uses it for his advantage. But it's also like you don't have that communications with gods. Yeah. But Bugs Bunny, when Elmo Fudd's like, it's Webbish season, he's never like, hey, man. It's actually nothing season.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You don't exist. Yeah. That would be the most fucked up Bugs Bunny trick of all. You're not going to put your finger in the gun or nothing? Nope. There's no point to life, Elmer Fudd. Yeah. We don't exist.
Starting point is 00:26:32 We're all just marks on a piece of paper. The moment you're out of frame, you will cease to be. Elmer Fudd and then point at the audience. See them? I will. We hope they don't change the flame. You know what's going to happen, Elmer Fudd? The moment the last person stops watching this, we cease to exist.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I don't want to die, Bugs Bunny. Not too bad. No one wants to die. You won't die because you're not alive. You've got to hope that the reruns are constantly going because it's going to be a time, Alma. The last episode of Alma 5 will appear one time with one person watching.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And when they turn that off... It's the only time he ever gets bugs. He has to. And then just bugs just, like, rises. Can't kill me, doc. Nah. Oh, my God. He's turned the shotgun himself.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I need to wind down. Mom! Mom! Eric Carpenter's in this episode. Man, I'm having existential crisis, mom. Mom, who cares about these idiots? I want cheesy poofs. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Eric Carpenter's going to grow up a little bit and he's going to be like, I don't need to watch Bugs Bunny anymore. And that may be the last time that anyone watches Elmer Fudge. Exactly. How are you saying friend? Knowing what Bugs Bunny is capable of. That's the other thing as well. It's like he's capable of a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, everyone's capable of evil. No, Bugs is capable of so much more. Yeah, everyone's capable of evil and maybe being a god, but Bugs doesn't do that. Anyone could do any heinous thing at any time. Well, he could do good things. I could pick up a brick and hit someone with it. That's easy.
Starting point is 00:28:19 But I don't. If you had ultimate power and Elmer Fudd came hunting us, you could do anything. You're God. You're in charge of the world. And he's like, douchey season. And you're like, no, it's Jackson season. You're in charge of everything that happens.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And you've made it to Elmer Fudd shoots me with his old timey gun. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, I do exactly that. It's funny to me. Entertainment. Well, I'm not paying rent You're not paying rent
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's a good point And I'll be shot at too Yeah I guess I guess the question is You know that The reality you live in Is a simulation Do you have a moral imperative
Starting point is 00:28:57 To free everyone else From that simulation Yeah but Bugs Bunny isn't getting out Well no Not even to free But to alert everyone else To the fact that they're living in a symbiosis.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Or is that a very fucked up thing to do? I don't know. That's the question. Hey, your life, your entire reality is fake. Is Bugs Bunny burdened with the knowledge that the world he lives in isn't real? And that has caused him to kind of somewhat snap so off somewhat. A little bit. So he's more of a, again, force of nature, a bit more chaotic a bit more like I'm just doing it you know for fun
Starting point is 00:29:26 and I don't know everyone why so serious maybe Bugs is the Joker oh my god well I was gonna say maybe like he's burdened with all of this
Starting point is 00:29:33 yet chooses not to free everyone cause that's then existence becomes hell eternity and if you know to keep him going
Starting point is 00:29:41 through this hell he's got a injury Duffy don't have to get shot every now and then. Then so be it. Maybe it's not so bad. He knows Duffy's safe. Well, I guess if you have the archetype of like,
Starting point is 00:29:52 well, I have a hunter. Yeah. And the hunter's going to hunt. And I guess to make him happy, he's going to hunt. But he's never going to actually truly like kill us or he's going to truly injure us. So at least we can have some fun with this baby head shaped buffoon.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And yes, my good friend will get his big shot off. But he'll be fine. And I guess actually... Daffy Duck doesn't get put in the fucking ground. There's no sad episode where we bury Daffy Duck and we mourn. He's cooked and eaten. It's awesome you imagine that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Killing him to bury. Misunderstanding hunting. He was hunting for sport Susha where's those ducks you killed I'll cook them up What? I gave them a Christian burial See those little crucifixes They're there
Starting point is 00:30:37 Why? What did you do to them? Is that what you were doing in the bushes Where I heard you muttering Bible verses? Yeah I was doing a funeral Why didn't you come, I was doing a funeral. Why didn't you come? I was making a sauce.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I was getting ready to cook. Oh, cooking. Why didn't you tell me that's what we were doing with them? I was just going to the store. It's fucked up that if you'd done that, I would feel bad about digging up the birds to cook. Even though they're just in the earth and they'll be fine. I don't know if they'd be fine. Well, how long were they in the ground? You just buried them, right? Yeah, but now they're just in the earth and they'll be fine. I feel bad. I don't know if they'd be fine. Well, how long were they in the ground?
Starting point is 00:31:07 You just buried them, right? Yeah, but now you're eating dirty duck. No, you pluck the duck and wash it. Pluck a duck. You pluck the duck and wash it, but I would feel like I was desecrating a grave. Yeah. That night we just eat tin soup and I just stare at you from my tent.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I can't think of he blessed them I wonder if those ducks are in heaven yet or if they're still on their way slurping furiously drinking the sauce that you were made from enjoying that lovely
Starting point is 00:31:40 plum sauce with nothing yeah it's great it's very sweet so yeah I suppose lovely plum sauce with nothing. Yeah, it's great. It's very sweet. So, yeah, I suppose maybe you could argue that Bugs Bunny is doing a kindness because he's like, you know, he's seen
Starting point is 00:31:55 whatever is cast in the shadows in the cave and he's like, you know what, I need to make sure that those shadows maintain. I need to make sure that the lights are on and the world that everyone else knows is me being a bit of a fuckwit, but at the end of the day, everyone is having relatively,
Starting point is 00:32:12 maybe not a good time, but everyone at least is alive. Maybe when faced with the cosmic existential crisis Bugs Bunny is faced with every day, friend v. foe just doesn't even really make sense as a question anymore. He's neither. He's something. And I can't, you know, like, using JD's
Starting point is 00:32:30 example, like, you know, the wind, friend or foe, is it, or is it just is? Bugs Bunny is. Bugs Bunny is. Oh, wow. And on that note I've been Joel I've been Jackson
Starting point is 00:32:48 I've also been Joel And this episode Had the same ending As Mr. Miracle So Tom King If you want to adopt this Let us know Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah Bugs money is Bugs money is Just is is.

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