Quick Question with Soren and Daniel - QQ ep 81 - Gemini (Wo)man feat. Dani Fernandez

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

In this episode the guys welcome the magical Dani Fernandez to talk everything from loose leaf teas to thirst traps.  And as always big thanks to our sponsors.  Thanks to FEALS.  Become a member today by going to Feals.com/qq and get 50% off your first order with free shipping.  And big thanks to Audible.  Visit Audible.com/qq or text QQ to 500-500 to start your free 30-day trial.

Hello again and welcome to another episode of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, the podcast where two best friends and comedy writers address every question except, did the world need another podcast? I am one half of this show, staff writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, author of How to Fight Presidents, and late in life aspiring, aspiring tea drinker, Daniel O'Brien, joined as always by my co-host, the whimsical Soren Bui. Soren, say hello. Hello everybody, I'm Soren Bui, andren, say hello. Hello, everybody. I'm Soren Bui.

And long before I wrote for television, I appeared on one, in a kids' roundtable show that faced issues that modern teens would have to deal with, like peer pressure and harmful labels, and should kids be allowed to carry beepers at school. Did you... Is this information that I'm learning about you for the first time? Yes.

Wow. And where did you... Where did your program come down on that beeper issue? It depends. So there was no final answer. It was just the kids all got to talk about it. And I came down on against because I was kind of a square. Sure. I thought it was disruptive in the classroom.

I knew some kids who had done it. And I threw them under the bus immediately and said that I don't in the classroom. I knew some kids who had done it. And I threw them under the bus immediately and said that I don't agree with it. Well, I think it sounds like that work. I haven't seen a beeper in schools in years. So it seems like you did some really great work there. You were on the right side of history. I don't know that I was solely responsible,

but I have to take some credit, I think. You know, when I got to the shoot too, they asked me to change clothes immediately. They had some other wardrobe and they're like this, what you're, what you're wearing doesn't exactly signify athlete, which is a demographic they're kind of hoping. And so, and we went on and talked about labels. How much of, uh, how much do you remember? Do you remember what you were wearing and what they put you in yeah I was wearing cargo pants at the time some tan cargo pants and I just a black t-shirt and some skate shoes and they were like this won't do and so they gave me a wasn't exactly a letterman jacket but it was one of the ones that has a collar that's that sits low and is like a fabric. And a snap button's on the front. Oh.

That does immediately scan as more athlete. Yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, it's sort of like Letterman-esque. That is. I guess it's more like a members only. It's a pretty crucial demographic. Thank you, Audible, for supporting Quick Question. Now Audible is giving members even more with the Plus Catalog. giving members even more with the plus catalog. Visit audible.com slash QQ or text QQ to 500 500 to start your free 30 day trial. Thanks to feels for supporting quick question feels has me feeling

my best every day and it can help you to become a member today by going to feels.com slash QQ and you'll get 50% automatically taken off your first order with free shipping. But let's stop talking about that and get into our show because we have a guest, and I'm very excited to welcome her to the show. She is a writer, an actress, a host, an author, and the first Disney princess to guest on this show. Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Dani Fernandez. Dani, hello. Hi.

I have my framed Ralph thing behind me too from Ralph Breaks the Internet. It was like official art that they gave out at New York Comic Con when I like hosted their panel. So it survived the trek through Javits Center and my luggage.

Yeah. Thank you so much for doing our show. I think this is the first time you've met Soren. We met, you so much for doing our show. I think this is the first time you've met Soren. We met, you and I. You were, I believe, hosting a stand-up show in San Diego? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Oh, my gosh. That was so long. I don't even do stand-up anymore. I don't either. And you are the reason. No, it's... I do remember. It was like one of the first times I'd ventured out of my very safe, we were doing LA at the West Side Comedy Club.

Yeah. Comedy at the West Side Comedy, LA, Jesus Christ. Put those words together however you want. Doing comedy for mostly like a cracked audience with mostly other cracked writers, like uncomfortable stage people. And I'd done it enough times that I was feeling good about it. And then I went to a different, unfamiliar place and felt terrible about it.

Really? Yeah. I thought our crowd was really good. I thought our San Diego crowd was really happy to be there. Which is why you should feel even worse about it. Because for some reason well i have to say being a host i have to say hosting is like the most thankless job when you're hosting a comedy show because you have to like intertwine all of the you don't really get to get all of

your set and your jokes in you're kind of you're just there to prop up the next person and like if the person before had like a decent or bad set like you have to like go from that and pick up pick the show back up and like it's the most i don't know why people i mean you get paid um but like i don't know why people would want to host a comedy show it's like the worst as opposed to like doing a type five yeah you can't kill as a host it's a lot of crowd where if you enjoy crowd work and stuff but but I just remember that, that, but I, I just, you're like, I have too many jobs. I just, I can't do all of the things. And I, and people are like, what is the key to your success? I'm like, just pick like two things you want to do. And so you end up just treading water. And if you pick like just two and you're like, I'm going to be really good at those two things or that one thing, it's much quicker, in my opinion, to like move up than trying to do 20 things. What do you feel like your two things are?

Writing and acting are the two that I want. I mean, I guess I host more right now because it's just easier like hosting for different, you know, I've hosted for Disney and E and, uh, Nerdist and stuff. And that's pretty, if you have a comedy background, it's pretty easy to do. Cause once you've done standup, you know, you know how to be live on air, you know how to talk to guests, you know how to segue, you know, you transition, you know, like, um, so, but writing, writing and acting are the two i was like i can't do stand-up is i don't know how people do stand-up and then um like who also used to be at

john oliver josh gundelman he'll do stand-up for like three nights like he'll go and do stand-up friday saturday and sunday this was back before covid go to his writer's room first thing in the morning and then have to write all day and then go and do like, I just can't do that. I think you're just burning the candle at both ends. Yeah. He's, he's a, uh, a special case. And, uh, I was really glad to, to work with him and also like very humbled being around him because he's a joke machine at work. And then, uh, you turn around and he's gotten changed into like the clothes he's going to wear for he's got like two or three standup shows that he's going to do. He's going to leave the office and continue doing a thing.

I was like, oh boy, I'm going to leave the office and just like sit in the dark until it's morning again. As you should. Your brain needs to turn off. Yeah. As you should. Also, Josh, like, you know, notoriously does a ton of cocaine. I was going to say.

Something is fueling him. We know what the something is. Yeah. As you should. Also, Josh, like, you know, notoriously does a ton of cocaine. I was going to say. Yeah. Something is fueling him. We know what the something is. Josh has, like, never touched coke. Yes. So, anyways, I just have two things. Well, we're going to get into our show where we ask each other questions and give each other answers. answers um we usually start off with a quick like just very superficial covid check-in uh with our guests we like to ask if there's any habits that you picked up in covid that you hope you will

continue going forward oh my gosh i am so proud of myself for flossing oh i'm so proud of myself y'all that's like a big, huge thing. That is huge. I don't know if people actually do it or they lie that they do it or whatever, but I'm finally at the state where I actually put it, I'm competitive and I have OCD. And so I actually have a list of things that I have to do every day. And I'm so competitive that I just, flossing is the last thing. And I like check it off. Yeah. So I know that's not pandemic necessarily related,

although I will say I have more time to floss now, but I'm just, it's such like a, I remember Sarah Silverman once tweeted and said something like, please floss. Cause it like a fat, like it causes aging, like,

you know, or gum recession or I don't know. She not like causes aging. Your face changed like so much. I like, you know, or gum recession. Or I don't know. Not like causes aging. Your face changed like so much. I mean like of your teeth. Right. Like it'll age your smile a lot.

I have the teeth of a 60-year-old man. Yeah, exactly. They're all going bald. It's terrible. Yeah. I know we just met and this is pretty intimate, but walk me through it are you using a like a an actual like the type that you pull out a certain like six feet of then you take it off

or are you doing like that the wand where you just have like one toothpick that has a floss uh like fiddle string on it i have wanted to do this for a while i actually bought a water pick because i saw it on queer eye Eye and I never used it. So I just bought this like expensive water pick. And then I don't know, it's like in a closet. But no, I'm using the string like my dentist. Every time I go in, they're like, let me show you how to floss because clearly you don't know. And that's why you're choosing not to do it.

And so every time it's like, no, I know how you're so you go down on this side, down this side i know how to do it um but yeah i'm using like a one long string um and uh i don't know i would like i'm curious to see the next time i go in if it's made a big difference if it hasn't i'm gonna drop it i'm serious yeah what if you go and you've got six cavities i it's this just this proves what a uh simple machine i am just completely fueled by positive affirmation is that uh when i first moved to la like i was really bad about going to the dentist and i just didn't go to the dentist for years and then went and if you if you go after not having gone for years like even if you brush your teeth regularly they're still just like basic stuff that like you need to go to the dentist every six months and uh they noticed several like you're you're a person who doesn't go to the dentist you don't floss this is this is bad and like the dental

assistant uh was like i'm gonna teach you how to floss you're not gonna do it like he said that to me he's like you're not gonna keep it up because he didn't believe in me. And then I came back six months later for my follow-up appointment. And that same dental assistant was like, good job. You really stuck with it. And it like fucking fueled me for the rest of my life. Just like, I need just someone to tell me good job every once in a while. And, and I can keep going because if, if if he hadn't noticed or if there was a different or or or if he just said nothing complimentary just like you did the thing that a human being

is supposed to do you're an adult you don't deserve praise for this i'm not going to congratulate you i'm not going to congratulate you for drinking water or breathing either if he had said that then like well fuck drinking water too then i'm not doing any of this i'm not gonna floss if there's not like a good boy in it for me but the fact that he was like proud of me through the roof i so i guess i have to research some more into flossing because my second hand information is that like the glide stuff that there's something on there that's similar to teflon that isn't particularly good for you so instead the kind that we use is that thick old school stuff that's like it's it's got like a real wax resin on it and it's uh got the caliber of like a a string on a guitar and you really have to like cram it down in between your teeth and

it's just not fun. It's just torture. I want to just be able to go back to like glide. I didn't even floss. That's how the Amish, that's how they floss. Is it really? So, no. Wow. I was very excited.

I'm sure you share other things with them. So, no, but I'm really proud of myself for doing that. And I just feel like there's no excuse not to. And like, I'm an adult. You always think like, when I'm an adult, I'll doing that. And I just feel like there's no excuse not to. And like, I'm an adult. You always think like, when I'm an adult, I'll do it. And then you're an adult. And then I was like, well, but when I'm older, I'll do it. And then you're older.

And it's like, oh, crap. Okay, well, this is the time. Yeah. So. Congratulations. Well, I'm proud of you too. Thank you. Thanks.

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I've used Audible recently to listen to Dracula, which was so fun. I thought, oh, I'll have to be in the mood for that. That's the kind of book you'd want to read. You climb up into an attic somewhere of a school and read. But no, listening to it just in my car, listening to it while I do the dishes was so enjoyable. Bram Stoker's Dracula is a kind of book that could just be read aloud to you. And it's such a treat. I highly recommend it. You are going to love Audible. Visit audible.com slash QQ or text QQ to 500-500 to start your free 30-day trial. Speaking of COVID and things Soren has in common with the Amish. Sorin, it's been a while since we've checked in on your garden. How is your garden?

Oh, flourishing. Really? Yeah, I've got a bunch of, like, winter stuff in there right now. Root stuff. And I didn't kill everything. It's like, usually I think you're supposed to take the tomato plants out in the winter, and I left it in, and it's just going ham out there. I can see it right now.

And it's taking over the entire garden, and I don't think it's ever going ham out there. I can see it right now. And it's taking over the entire garden. And I don't think it's ever going to die. This is the one that I saved from my crawl space. It was a volunteer in the crawl space. And I put it in a garden and lovingly took care of it. And now it's as big as me. But yeah, everything else is doing very well. I think the problem was before.

Here's the deal, Danny. I had a garden. I was doing very well until everything died. And then I thought, fuck gardening. You don't have a green thumb. You have a blue thumb. You have a blue thumb. So it turns out it might just be seasonal and that there's different nutrients that

are in the soil that all those plants use up. And then if those aren't replaced or you're not doing anything to take care of it, then those plants will never grow there again. So I figured some of it out. And there's like, you do interchanging vegetation. So you take some stuff up and put in new stuff. And it eats different stuff from the soil. It's worked out really well for me.

I think I'm back. I'm proud of you. All right. I love that. It could have taken you down and you didn't let it. I didn't. I watched a lot of YouTube videos and now I'm good. Excellent.

That's me with my makeup and just like, especially in COVID. That was another thing I guess I had to get better at because we, they don't give us a lot of makeup artists for our stuff anymore. And so people were starting to see that on the news, like the first couple of weeks of COVID people like, Whoa, I guess she's doing her own hair now. It's like that moment in the first Batman movie where the makeup is what everyone's afraid of because the Joker has gotten into it.

Oh yeah. Cause people do the grins. And so everyone in the news just looks aggroed and been raggled because they can't wear makeup anymore. And I remember people were getting called out again. This was like the first month when everyone, like when it was all haywire, not that it's not, but, um, people were getting called out out for like you could tell that they got their hair like highlighted and done. And they were like, people are dying.

And we just got in lockdown and you're getting highlights. So like a lot of news people, you saw them for the first time without like they were trying to do baby powder their own faces. And it was just like a mess, a nightmare. So I've watched a lot of youtube makeup videos i would say i am decent hell yeah hell yeah for decency love decency uh i haven't gotten better at anything my my covid corner update this week was going to be the thing that i alluded to at the top of the show which is that i'm trying to get into tea yeah how's that going? I think it's a bunch of bullshit, frankly. I think we've all

been sold a false bill of goods. I know Soren, you like tea, and I know plenty of people who love tea, and I look at descriptions of tea, and it's extremely my shit. If you walk into a tea place and they have a bunch of different teas, and this one has ginger, and

this one is calming, and this one has these peppers in it i'm i i'm your best shot at that at that being thrilling information i'm who you want in your audience for that because i want to believe that that's what i'm gonna get and it just tastes like hot water with some with some fucking garbage in it it never tastes like it says it's gonna to taste. It always just tastes like tea. I don't think you can fall in love with the romance of like the language of it. It's like buying a jacket from one of those places that exclusively sells to high end people where it's like the jacket is an adventure in itself. Like you can't. That's not that's not what you're going to get out of it.

I guess you and Ted Lasso. Ted Lasso also hates tea. Canonically. He does? I thought the whole point of that show was, I thought it was like a very positive, happy show. Except tea. He calls it brown water.

He famously throughout the whole thing, he can't have it. And he keeps asking people if it's a joke that they're all in on this joke of like liking tea um it is a positive show but he has some things he doesn't like like negativity and tea okay that might be the thing that gets me to watch ted lasso it's become so highly recommended to me by everyone i know and whose opinions i i trust and respect and i have no reason not to watch it except I'm just like weird and stubborn sometimes. Uh,

but I like the idea that he's a super positive person who hates tea and he's forced by circumstances to live in England. All right. I'm on board with this as a comedy premise. Could you have a little bit of half and half Dan or would that, would that fuck you up? Uh, yeah,

it would, it would fuck me up. Okay. So part of like the what i like about tea is there's uh some real ritual to it and like how you put it together and that you i add a little bit of honey and a little bit of half and half and honestly it just like elevates the entire thing makes it very good i understand the ritual i went to like an actual tea place in this town where i'm staying everyone was that was me and the person who and the proprietor and we both wore masks and i was like i will take this special tea to go please and thank you and they and i gave money and then we just stood and stared

at each other for a while and she was asking me about my day and what I was doing in town. And I answered politely and appropriately. And then sort of passive aggressively was like, so is the tea at the end of the thing? Like, do I walk down there to get the tea? Because I thought maybe she'd forgotten to get the tea. And she was like, oh, no, it needs to steep for seven minutes. And she took that part of the ritual very seriously and didn't want me to have the bag.

So we just sat there looking at each other for seven minutes while the tea steeped. That's a long time. And I Googled it afterward. That's the right amount of time. I feel like you scalded me. It depends on what tea. Yeah. Sometimes it's like three or four minutes.

It'll say it on the tea bag. So there you go. I love tea. I want to get there because again I'm enamored by that kind of shit and if there is ritual to it I'm going to love that too I'm just I'm not sold on the whole

the big tea lie that I think has been so successful for a lot of people I'm just not there I really feel like it's a bag full of garbage that got put in some hot water, and no one's telling the emperor that he's naked. Well, if that makes you feel any better, I feel the exact same way about coffee.

I think any acquired taste is exactly that way. Yeah, that's true. Coffee is harsher than tea. Coffee rules. Coffee is an acquired taste. Like coffee and Keystone Light and those those are acquired tastes yeah you gotta learn to love them people really like them and they're pretty cheap but they're definitely acquired yeah well danny i have another quick question for you are you ready for it yes okay um this is one that

we've answered on the show before uh it's about advice and i'm i'm curious about you specifically because you are among other things known for giving really great very positive very no bullshit thoughtful advice on twitter you're you're really active like giving people the kind of straightforward uh uplifting advice uh that anyone could do well to heed. And I'm very curious, what is advice that you give that you don't personally take? Oh my gosh, probably celebrating small wins along the way. I was really gonna hope you say flossing.

Flossing. I don't know. I always tell people you need to celebrate the wins along the way. And like I said, again, competitive, OCD, perfectionism. Like, it's very difficult. I also have really big goals. And I move the goalposts constantly for myself, as I feel a lot of creatives do.

And so I do want people to celebrate all of their wins. I just don't do that very often because we're in such a harsh industry that it's like, cool, you did this thing. Like, who cares? Like, what did you do now? You know, what did you do today? What did you sell today? What did you, what did you star in today? So it's just like very difficult, but I do think it's important. And all of the things that I tweet are things that I need to hear. So those are all things from like years of therapy and things that I've written down in my journal. And every time I tweet, which by the way, thank you. I think sometimes people, a lot, like it's overwhelming

the amount of people who write me that it helps them. But every once in a while, someone will be like, what do you know? Or it must be nice, must be easy. And I'm like, I've literally done like so much trauma treatment and hours and hours and hours and so much money that I've dedicated to trying to heal myself and be in therapy. And so, but yes, all of the things that I tweet, although I'm glad that they help people are normally for myself. Little reminders. So. It's still great that you do it. I mean, you're one of my favorite people to follow on Twitter, A, because of like the overwhelming positivity and the great advice that you give. And B, because every once in a while, I will see on the timeline, a tweet of yours, that's a follow up to another tweet. And I missed the first tweet.

And it's always like a fun mystery to put together because it'll be a tweet. Like, listen, what I said, I wanted to fuck young Simba. I'm like, great. I'll be like,

believe in yourself, but also Vegeta could hit it. I mean, have you seen him? Like that is, it is funny. Cause I get like a I get like a majority of the mental health community follows me. Then a ton of the anime community follows me.

A lot of Latinos follow me from trying to work and increasing our representation in television. And it's like, so I have like such a weird Venn diagram. But I, and then a lot of Disney people follow me from work that I've done with Disney. But here's the thing about them is they're also freaks. They are. And like, they're, they're, I mean, they're adults too. So like, they're not like more, I was gonna say Mormons, not trying to offend any Mormons, but they're not, you know, like they're also adults. And, um, I definitely know because there's a lot also I've seen Mrs. Incredible. So don't even start with me.

I know a bunch of animators worked on that. So don't even try with me. She's got a booty and I know someone had to animate it. So they're also freaks. There was someone high up at Disney who was like, do we really need it to be that big? Shut up. Yes, we do. It's locked.

We're doing it. Stop asking that. One of my friends, it's locked we're doing it stop asking that one of my friends it's okay because he's not there anymore one of my friends that was at pixar said um when i when i questioned him about that like you know how everyone always jokes that pixar moms have like dump truck asses or whatever like just huge fat asses and he, someone up top likes a little something extra on the bottom. That's what he said. So I'm not going to say who that was, but I'm pretty sure you can guess. We can fill in some blanks there. Talk about spilling tea. I don't love that I did that, Hey, you, do you experience stress or anxiety or a nagging pain? Or do you have trouble sleeping and you just thought, well, this is just the way the world

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yeah it has a little bit um i'm realizing that just in hearing danny talk about being a perfectionist and everything that uh i i always sort of like hate people who think that spending time a lot of time on something is the same thing as doing a good job and uh i end up falling into that a lot where like i will finish a script or something like that and i will be like god like i worked forever on this and i feel very proud about how long i spent on it and then if anybody has any criticism of it i'm immediately taken aback because my first instinct is like but you don't understand i was up like my children were in the house and i had to like go type this in the garage and i was working on it all night and just not just separating those two things and realizing that that does those two things

are not equal that doing a good job on something is not by any means the same thing as spending a bunch of time on it yeah I'll have that that same impulse still that I'll see a joke that I spent a lot of time on get cut from a script or not even picked to make it in the script in the first place. And I want to be like, well, they only did that because they don't know how long it took. Let me call them. I'm going to call them.

I'm going to call them and tell them like, listen, listen guys, that was the thing I spent my time on. The other stuff. They could see the work. Yeah. I'll show you the other iterations of it.

This is the best of all of those. Yeah. I think we can all agree. Uh, I have another quick question for. Okay. I guess it's for anyone, but really it's for Danny. This is based on a tweet of yours that I saw. This is again in like you're in the sub genre of Danny positivity.

I want to take pictures of my friends. I feel with a little teaching about traps, I could help everyone reach their hottest potential. That's such a good friend. It is. And it's like, and, and for the people listening who might not know what is meant by trap,

a shout out to my parents. That's a thirst trap. Like, like you post a picture of yourself that is you looking hot because you want to make so people, you want to make people so horny that they're trapped by your hotness. Is that?

Essentially you want to like, I guess trap in quotes, get them to like reply to you or like say if you have a crush and so you want to like oh i know if i post this picture it'll it'll trap them it'll get them to reply or get them to slide into my dms or something and so it's typically what those are supposed to accomplish uh and it's something that like like plenty of people post thirst traps and and we love it it's it's it's it's something that like, like plenty of people post thirst traps and, and we love it.

It's, it's, it's, it's great as someone who doesn't post thirst traps. I do feel like it's a world that I'm not part of. And I just like, look at people like, like,

cause there's such a confidence to it. And also just like well staged. Um, but that makes me think that what you're tweeting about Danny is a real service that should exist. Like you're, about danny is a real service that should exist like you're uh a benevolent thirst expert who would just like with a little help tweak all of your friends and help them be hotter on the internet i guess is where yeah i mean i just feel like a lot of

times i'll see people take like people are like oh i'm not good or like they'll like i wish i could do it like you and i'm like well it's it's not that hard like a lot of my i feel like a lot of times I'll see people take, like, people are like, oh, I'm not good. Or like, they'll like, I wish I could do it like you. And I'm like, well, it's, it's not that hard. Like a lot of my, I feel like so many of my friends are attractive and it just takes like, like showing off the right angles. Everyone has their right angles and everyone has angles. We know we've all opened the iPhone the wrong way and been like, whoa, I do not feel good about myself right now. Everyone has really bad angles, including me. And so, oh my gosh, I'm sorry. My dog is being, I don't know if you can hear her. She's being so aggressive. She came, you can hear, I can hear at least her like click clack of her nails as she came over. And then I kid you not y'all, she went over to her food bowl and she

moved it. Like she like hit it with her paw of like, hi, I just want you to know I'm here and I am hungry. But I literally just fed her not that long ago. She is just, she just takes after her mom. She wants to eat all the time. So anyways, I do feel like a lot of times, like, I don't know. And it does take a skill because a lot of times people can just be awkward. Like their hands, they don't know what to do with their hands. don't know what to do with their face and i'm like oh if i could just teach you like you would look so hot trust me um so yeah so i i do still want to do

that with my friends yeah i think it it's it's one of those small services that is like it's not enough to be a like full career for anyone but it's like a micro service that i feel like should exist and a lot of people would pay for and could benefit from like i certainly see uh there's your advice and there's also i don't know if you guys follow uh yasser lester he's a writer comedian actor and uh he every once in a while will tweet at men specifically and like send me a picture of yourself and i will tell you if you're handsome and it's like it's not a bit and he's not there to roast people he's just very like i i will never have the the bravery to do it because he'll tell you honestly and he'll just be like this angle is bad for you i first of all i don't like beards

you know i don't like beards so get rid of the beard and you should smile and like you don't like beards, you know I don't like beards, so get rid of the beard and you should smile. And like, you don't need a hat. Don't put a hat on. You're not handsome. Like nine times out of 10, he will end his very honest and like cutting critique with not handsome. Because his starting point is most guys aren't handsome and don't, or rather most guys don't know

how to take pictures of themselves. Yes, that's it. I think it's not that they're not handsome, is that guys don't know how to take pictures of themselves. Yes, that's it. I think it's not that they're not handsome, is that they do not know how to take photos as shown by like their Instagram, their Tinder profiles. They're like, I'm like, oh my gosh, like you do not look like, like you look so much better than this. But y'all are also not trained the same way, the way that we are.

That's why I feel like whenever I have a boyfriend, I have to train him to take photos. And they're just like, they take the worst. They make me feel bad. I'm like, why would you take this of me? Did you want me to cry? Why would you do this? So you have to train them how to take good photos. And then, oh my gosh, if you date someone who dated somebody who taught them how to

take photos, that's just, oh, man. God bless that woman. Because you get to reap the benefits of that. So anyways, I actually disagree with him. I think beards are amazing. And I think most of my guy friends that have beards clean up pretty well, like do well with the ladies because of their beards. So I'm sorry, Soren. It's okay.

It wasn't in the cards for me. I know you didn't get that. It would be a real tragedy, though, for you to be in a relationship and suddenly the person that you've been dating is starting to show signs of getting much better at taking their photos and someone else has been teaching them. That's like a betrayal. That would be.

Their side chick is too. Honestly, I'd be like okay well but also thank you but all this was a springboard to the larger quick question of small services that similarly can't be a full career for someone but should exist and a lot of people would benefit from soren do you have anything that fits that description? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I have actually a couple. One of them is, I think that there should be a masterclass on how to interact with a celebrity

because I see it happening on Twitter a lot. And it's like people shooting their shot and it's just like, it's so ham-fisted and misdirected and misguided that I just want to like reach out to them and be like, no, look here, this is a better way to do it like they will they get immediately that gushing praise is not necessarily the right approach but then they think that they uh the antithesis to that is the right

answer they will try and like bust your chops a little bit they'll they'll jump into like pat noswalt's mentions and like try and like shit on him a little bit and like that's not the right way to go um you also there's like some some really clear do's and don'ts like you can mention something like thank them for their work or something that meant a lot to you and why it meant a lot to you and as long as you're very concise when you do it but you don't ever try to like mention a detail about their personal life that you learned from an interview or a podcast to like prove that you know them better but i see that a lot too yeah that's weird yeah they're just a that people who want to like get that that validation from a celebrity but they're

just really really bad at it yeah i definitely deal with negging i definitely deal with negging for sure when men will and like you said because they're like well i didn't want to like get compliment you you know or whatever i didn't want to like simp or whatever so that's another term that people probably don't know but i didn't want to like you know like you said gush over you so instead i'm going to do the opposite to like catch your attention but really just they just seem like assholes and that I ended up blocking them or I just completely roast them. And then they turn their account private because they're embarrassed. That's happened several times. Do not come for me.

I do have claws and I'm very sweet and nice, but I'm, I'm a Gemini. So I have like both of those dual personalities. But anyways, yeah, it's so shitty. And then there'll be like, Oh no, I'm a big fan. I just like wanted you to notice me. And it's like, that's gross. Like, just tell me that my work matters to you. Or I always say joke like you're on their side. You should always be on their side. So you should never say something like you're not maybe my close friends. That's another thing too, is I think on social media, they might see all of us talking together because we know each other. And so we'll give each other a hard time about different like shows or projects or whatever.

And then they're like, oh, I'm going to jump in and roast Danny and make fun of her for this thing. And it's like, you don't know me. So like, they want to play the game. They want to jump the line and play the game. And that's, I understand that because they feel like they know you. They've seen you so many times. They've followed you. And they're like, basically, we know each other.

But they don't, it's not registering that, no, you are still a stranger. And you just said something very cruel. Yes. Yes. And I understand the chop busting impulse because you see famous people busting other famous people's chops. And you bust chops with your friends. And you just think, like, I don't want to be, like, I want to leapfrog over the part where I'm a fan and just become like a buddy. How do buddies talk to each other?

Oh, it's this way. It's busting their chops. And you forget that this is a stranger. It's earned. That's a big one for me. I also think that it would be nice, and I don't know, maybe this isn't even a small job, but it would be nice to have someone who would do a yearly social audit for you. And by that, I mean someone who follows you around for like four weeks or three weeks every year.

And at the end of it, they're like, OK, I followed you. Here are the things that you're doing that drive your friends or your coworkers crazy. Like they don't like the way that you pay at restaurants. You're doing that badly. They don't like that you're trying to split the bill and you're trying to split it down to the cent or they're like do you what you think of as contributing to a conversation is actually you just trying to top the story they just told you should work on that somebody who would just work on those things with you because your friends won't tell you those things and they just continue

to see about it do you think you could handle that i think if it's an objective person then absolutely if it's your friend it would be really really devastating but if it's somebody who's walking into the group who like they don't have i mean they don't have a dog in that fight i guess they do it's you but like they're doing it to better you then at the end they could be like here's here are the things that i noticed here's your yearly review um this is a weird thing that you do this is kind of a not great thing. This is sort of selfish of you. And you can be like, oh, the same way in movies where there's somebody who always says, you know what your problem is?

You're this, this, this, this, and this. And you can be like, ah, good. That's very insightful. I'll work on those. They have those at jobs. I think it's called a 360 interview or audit or whatever. And so those are hard because they're anonymous. And so you get typically bosses will try to do that to see how they can better support their team. And then it's like, it is hard to read. I haven't had to do it, but I've listened to people talk about it before. That would be a lot. that would be a lot. Oh, I was going to say, I have a friend. I would love to be able to say that to a friend of mine because I have a friend who I was, we're friends in the same way that I have, I have a lot of friends out here. So I guess like I would say friends slash acquaintance,

but what I will say is he always has like a, what about me type of complex to him. Like when someone gets something and it's like, well, I should have gotten that, or I should have done this and blah, blah. And so he's, but he like hustles really hard and he doesn't, he hasn't, like he's hasn't gotten past a certain level. And I want to tell him, I want to tell him so badly, he probably won't listen to this. But I want to tell him like, Hey, I think it's because people don't like recommending you for things because you, you're not happy for them. You're like, you're not happy for them you're like you're not happy for people when they're doing like yes we all hustle we all are hustling we're all out here but you have to be you have to root for other people or else they can tell like I remember when I got I got this job on the CW um last year this year I hosted the Critics' Choice Super Awards for them. And last year I got that

job because last year I was on a panel for their like CW show, their like DC shows. And he, and so I announced it and he, and I was the only one, like other than that, it was the showrunners and the actors. So I was like the only non, like, you know, they brought me on as like an expert to talk about it. And he tweeted and he said something like, I should have been asked to do this, blah, blah, blah. Like it was very clear he found out about it from me. And also like the only other person was like Kevin Smith or like Grant Gustin, who's not, like I was just like, whose role would you have taken?

Whose spot would you have taken? You're saying my spot. And so it was just like, and I know people are like, that's not a friend. And weirdly that is, and I'm sure we've all dealt with that. That's like how a lot of people are in the industry. But like, he just does it so openly that,

but he'll always write me like, man, I'm trying so hard. And I just want to tell him. And I did kind of tell him the other day, I'm like, you know, you got to make sure that you're like also supporting people and sharing their work. And like, you know, but I just, yeah. So anyways, Soren, you got to make sure that you're like also supporting people and sharing their work and like, you know, but I just. Yeah. So anyways, Soren, you can do that.

I will pay you and you will tell him. Hey, man, the reason why you're not succeeding is because everyone thinks you're an asshole. I'm going to sit down with a folder across from a desk from him and be like, thank you for coming to this. Everyone has noticed that you always say you should have gotten the job and not them. And so nobody wants to work with you. I know it's not the case, but I would love it if this is the same unnamed associate who's like a top level exec at Disney. Just like one person, just like big chip on their shoulder, loves giant asses, always tweeting, why not me?

I want that to be the same person. What's a big dumper? I'm pretty sure that person's like... Why can that i get all the big dumpers yes i was gonna say i'm pretty sure that top exec's like a multi-millionaire so i don't think he cares does his name rhyme with geyser no no um but yeah so but anyways there's a lot of people like that and i'm just like you have to be well you cannot i mean i guess i don't know i personally think especially being a lot of people like that. And I'm just like, you have to be well, you cannot, I mean, I guess, I don't know. I personally think, especially being a woman of color, like you can't be unlikable. Like people have to root for you.

You have to be nice and rooting for people and pulling people up to be successful. Word travels so quickly in this industry. So if you're not easy to work with, I think the thing that really brought this to my attention or like made me want it was my current job that i work in a writer's room and like that chemistry is so important yeah and there's also a lot of shit talk that happens in writers rooms that's true all the time and so you want to make sure that you're putting your best foot forward at every single turn and when you're not and you don't realize it it's complete blindside and it's terrifying.

And so if you just had somebody who would come in and be like, oh no, this is where you're fucking up. Like, this is the thing that you're doing wrong. You could be like, oh great. That's great.

I will work on that. I feel like if, uh, if someone had done a social audit of me and, and came to me with that information, it was just like, Hey, just so you know,

uh, your, your friends think X, Y, Z of you. Contrary to what you might think, they don't think it's great that you're always on. They think sometimes there shouldn't be bits at all. I'd be like, this is a great note. I'm going to move because it's like,

that's socially so devastating and embarrassing to me because I am like so uh this is gonna sound contradictory i'm so comfortable with uh all of the flaws that make me up as a person that like no i i know my my weird and annoying and and and shitty tics i know them enough that I can live with myself. But if my friends had gotten together and they were like, yeah, this is the thing that, you know, if you did this like 2% less,

you would be 50% more enjoyable to be around. And I'd be like, nope. Gotta leave the situation forever now. Hilarious. Like, it's too heartbreaking. I thought nope that'll sound too sad I thought the deal was was we all love the horrible things about me

and about yeah yeah yeah I mean you certainly there are certain things that you're never gonna outgrow like that they're just part of you and it's you're you're too old to change these certain aspects that you've come to terms with and you're fine with and i think you would get some of those you'd be like yeah that's they've learned to like that about me too they wouldn't have gotten to know me and been my friend if those things didn't really bothered them but there will be i can't imagine there wouldn't be a few that you would just be completely blindsided by where you'd be like oh shit i do do that oh that's great that's great thank you yeah if it was a surprising thing then i would probably be okay with it like some tick that i wasn't aware of but

like the only specific example i could think of is when my friends and I get together we play board games a lot and I'm very insistent on following the rules because they're important and I think everyone likes the game more if we follow the rules trust me like if we don't have the I'm not gonna get into this now because my friends listen to this show and we'll have this fight in person later. But like that, my insistence on adhering to the rules and like teaching everyone the rules

and calling people out when they don't follow the rules and then them getting annoyed with me, that to me is part of the whole dance. Like, I like telling the rules i assume you like yelling at me for doing that um but if i found out you didn't like yelling at me and you would have a better time if i just shut up about the rules that would be surprising information to me

yeah i thought i thought this was like like a playful battle i play my part you play your right like a playful battle i play my part you play your right yeah wow do you have some damn do you have one i i have one but i'm i'm now so like in my head about uh about all the social things that i do wrong the only thing that the the small service that i feel like needs to exist is i go down to the rabbit hole of impressions on youtube because i'm i'm just like deeply obsessed with impressions and I like to see them done really well and there are so many people who are so good at them but one of the things that really drives me bananas

is the writing in someone's impressions reel being very bad. The dialogue they choose Yeah! And it's, I understand that like a lot of these people are trying to get voice work or they're trying to get work on Saturday Night Live where you can say like the

thing I'm bringing to the table is my impressions. You don't, you don't necessarily need to be a good writer. Cause like that, these are completely different skill sets. And I understand that intellectually obviously but at the same time when you're putting your impression reel on youtube it still lives as one piece of content and i if i'm a person who is casting snl or any show that requires people who have a lot of impressions, I still need to sit through

this as a piece of content. And I can't really, and it's, it's harder for me to like divorce that because if the, if the writing is bad in this impression reel, then I'm going to have a bad time watching it. And so I feel like if you are really good at impressions, I'm positive. One of your friends is a sketch comedy writer. I'm just positive. Reach out to them and have them write a conversation between Owen Wilson and Christopher Walken. And it'll be better. Because there are so many great impressionists with unwatchable YouTube reels. Because writing isn't their strength, which doesn't make them a bad person, obviously.

But it's still like, I have a better time watching. I actually found someone who was great at this. This guy, Ryan Goldsher, who is a great impressionist, but also has a game with each impression that he does. And there's like a title card. Like he has one that is, this is an impression of Will Ferrell touching a hot bowl of guacamole.

Like immediately better than just someone who was just trying to riff as Will Ferrell right in front of me. Everyone be like, I already forgot his name. This is bad news. Everyone be like Ryan Goldsher. Oh my gosh.

I like that a lot. I think that would be a real service. Or just sing all of yours. Like that guy who did Adele's Hello, but it was like the cast of Family Guy or something. Like just pick a song. Do you remember that? He did like all of these different,

it went viral. Rob Cantor? Maybe. The person I know is Brock Baker. In fact, he has really great impressions. If you've ever heard like a Goofy impression, because they get stolen a lot and used on TikTok. But he does a really great Goofy.

And I actually hit him up because he could do Mickey. And I asked him to wish my nephew happy birthday. And he did as Mickey and goofy. So that comes in handy as opposed to tracking down the actual voice actor and spending thousands of dollars. You can just ask Rob Baker. So he'll never know that Mickey didn't wish him. Well,

someday he will. Right. I know. He'll probably wish him. Well, someday he will. Right. I know he'll probably tell his, I know he'll probably tell his, he'll be like, my aunt is, she's a Disney character and she got the voice of Mickey

to where I'm like, yep, that's 100% correct. I can just see him at the preschool telling the other kids like, she's friends with, well, not friends, LA friends.

So like they're acquaintances. They're acquaintances. It's true. Well well i think we're just about getting close to wrapping this up as usual we didn't really uh accomplish i don't think anything on this show perfect great another perfect episode um i need a second to track down our social accounts to, to promote this. I don't have them in front of me. So, uh, Danny, if you could, if you could fill some time while I track these down, that would be really great for me. Yeah.

Um, I can, I can set you up. No, uh, I got it for you. Um, while I, while I,. While I look for these social accounts, I wanted to give you a chance to elaborate on a tweet of yours. You have so many great tweets. I've said this a thousand times. What a great follow you are for me and for a lot of people. There's so much encouragement on there.

There's so much career advice, like unfiltered career advice, that people don't usually get. People should really be paying more for that kind of advice. And you're so thoughtful. You're so caring. You're so kind. You're so funny. And I just wanted to use this platform to give you some space to talk about

this tweet of yours. I feel weird wanting to ride a dead robot's dick. Frowny face. Not weird enough to not look at fan art but still r.i.p you know i mean technically that could mean a lot of different things um but i and it was funny some of the people replied like what i i would be like you clearly didn't watch wandavision my god everyone knows we're talking about wandavision today okay everyone um but yeah i mean everybody everybody was tweeting about him i mean they even had him in like paul was like in a tight like turtleneck and there were all these memes but i felt bad i was like should i be thinking of this

in this moment it's you know the show deals with trauma but also a little horny so one time i came up with this term um in this group chat i'm y'all i'm such a nerd i created a group chat for dragon ball z that my friends are it's called the Senzu Bean as opposed to the Coffee Bean. And we all meet in there. I'm not kidding. Every single day, there's a bunch of writers. Ify Wadiwe, who is also a comedy writer, is in there with me, along with a bunch, Yedoye Travis, who's a comedian's in there. Ify, by the way, horniest person on the internet by miles and miles. Yeah, he's openly, I have to rank, I would say I trap a lot. I do a lot of thirst traps and I definitely send out horny things. Oh, I was going to say, I came up with this term in there where I accidentally, I meant

to write horrified. Like they sent some like wild ass fan art that was of anime characters doing things that I can't describe. And so I meant to say horrified, but I said hornified. And now hornified. So that's the new, when you see something and you're sexually, you're terrified and you're sexually aroused. I refer to that as a fear-rection. There you go. A fear-rection.

But who doesn't? A ghost dick. A ghost robot dick. I mean, unattached. So. Ghost dick. A ghost robot dick. I mean, unattached. You can ask Danny for follow-up information on that robot ghost dick at twitter.com slash miss dannyfernandez

or you can go to her website dannyfernandez.com You can follow Soren at soren underscore ltd or me at dob underscore inc. You can email the show at qqwithsoren and daniel at gmail.com at You can follow the show on Twitter at Dan, you can hire and befriend our wonderful

producer, engineer, editor, great guy, Gabe at We also have a Patreon. There are perks now, I guess, if you give us money i still think you should give that money to charity uh we do bonus episodes yeah but like bonus episodes aren't going to get you into heaven you know uh danny do you have anything to to to plug while we uh i think

that's it also my website i think danny m f Danny M. Fernandez. That's right. Because there's another. It's okay. The other Danny, there's so many of them. I just have to kill them all. Yeah. And so I can be the one. That's right. It's a hard-hitter situation.

Yeah. There's several out there. And I'm coming. Don't worry. I'm just kidding, please. If one of them ends up dead, I'll be so disappointed. They'll come for me immediately. They'll come for me. Like she said, she wanted to be the only danny fernandez yeah um it's uh yeah you're in a tight spot because uh we

ran the numbers and our demographic we are huge with snitches it's most of our audience damn damn some of them have blocked me to be honest i remember i tweeted at one and i was like can i buy your handle please and he blocked me and then i asked. I remember I tweeted at one and I was like, can I buy your handle, please? And he blocked me. And then I asked my followers, I was like, oh, no, tell them for money, for like real money. And so they tweeted a bunch of my followers like, hey, she was going to buy it. And they like, he like blocked all of them. So anyways, leave at Danny Fernandez alone. That is not me.

And he hates me. So I am at Ms. MS Danny Fernandez. Yeah. Oh, fantastic. Well, and he hates me. So I am at Ms. MS Danny Fernandez. Yeah. Oh, fantastic. Well, thank you. Bye. Bye.