Rooster Teeth Podcast - Geoff Comes Eye to Eye with a Ghost - #520

Episode Date: November 27, 2018

Join Gus Sorola, Geoff Ramsey, and Burnie Burns as they discuss the post office, coming up with names and titles, ghosts, and more on this week's RT Podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So for those of you who are listening to the audio podcast, Gus and I have on stupid, morpheus. They're like morpheus. What do they call it? They have their fungular piece. Earpiece. They have legs. What are they called? Legs.

Is that what they're called? No. No, they're called legs. Yeah. Are they called legs? Legs on your glasses. Yeah. Earpiece.

Parts of the- Regardless, they make both of your faces look fat. And you guys don't have particularly just face a little fat. You're just getting better because you lost weight. Yeah. But with those dumb round glasses on you look fat like he looks fat Although we were way off my guy coke become a They gave you a glass marketing Jeff Jesus Christ Mark it and speaking of cyber Monday What's that one reminder when we be having a cyber Monday sale.

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bought that heist game because somebody's got to buy it. Please buy it. Yeah, buy it as charity. Buy it and build a, use it as a brick and build a house with it. Buy a bunch of them. You might, you might have missed when it came out because it was in like chapter 18 of the marketing email this last week.

Was it in the fifth or the sixth email I got yesterday? I don't remember. I've been reading the cliff notes. I'm just, I just see email I got yesterday. I don't remember. I've been reading the Clifnotes. I just see all the new threads pop up. Do we send 140 emails a day? We're not sure. Martin working on a... I get the emails too.

I know this at email a day, usually. But wow, we're prolific with our email, huh? Yeah. I don't know anything about that scene. But I will say, like every time I see with a schedule like Goddamn, or who's either spamming with emails, all I can think is if we're doing it,

it must be working, right? I assume so. So here's like, it costs money to send those emails. They're not free. Nathan Hissleywood doesn't send each, like a million emails individually a day. He just cut and pay.

So we're paying a service. But everyone's address. So we're spending cash is going out, which must mean cash is coming in. So it must mean those emails are awesome. Do you know Jeff that I learned on a podcast recently? I just did a facts. The hardest thing on earth to do. Yeah. I had to do it. For taxes. Taxes. Taxes. Add to some facts. So I got effects. And I mentioned to Gus that I was on this 38 trail. I got effects because I have that service. I go, you still have effects. Now I know why he has it.

I went to cancel it with the 38-trail. You got a call and talk to somebody that canceled. That's a fucking smart move. Honestly, use it. I tried to help you. They were down there. I tried to help him. Yeah, apparently every facts machine on the world

was down tax day. Gus's effects suddenly didn't work. I hear like Emily Weeks is the facts whisperer in the company. Nobody could find her. Like it was impossible to facts anywhere. It should be impossible to facts. Aren't we past that? Totally agree.

I'm gonna take a picture of my phone and send it to you. That's how I got past faxing. I just took a fucking photo of my tax form and sent it to my dude and he was like, perfect, thanks. You're... That works? Phone is better than any photo cop here we grew up with.

Oh yeah. By a long shot. You guys would have those. You got a crop on it, shit off though. What was this thing? The memiograph machine? Yeah, what was that? It was like a spinning drum.

Yeah, it was like a purple ink. Yeah, that's just, this is the old man portion of the podcast by the way. I thought that was just shit they made kids do in grade school when they had too much free time. It was like memiograph stuff for the t-shirt. Like extra four like. It would bring you blue ink form.

Like you're taking a quiz for purple. Yeah. And they smelled and I remember kids would get them and sit there and smell them. And it would smudge. And it was, yeah, it was two things that taught you to huff when you were a kid. It was those and it was those markers that smelled like fruit. Yeah. bad idea I don't know why they thought that was a good idea like the blue one smelled like blueberry

Which by the way doesn't smell like anything, but they would send them so kids would sit there and fucking hop these markers in School all day I don't even want to you know I have that long history with hopping stuff and the whole time I had to go to the hospital I'm too much gas and I've told all the stories in the podcast before, but I am intimately familiar with Huffing. You have a curious now, what kind of gas did you huff? Gas out of a lawnmower, like gasoline,

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And I woke up in a bag of a pickup truck going to the hospital. Is there a fault really? We're not giving you a problem. And they were like, you must have just been cooped up too much. And I'm like, yeah, that must have been it. So you know the dude who does smarter every day just held thinker con in Alabama.

I don't know what you're not. Smarter every day is. Destin, you know, our destined for smarter every day. Oh, that dude. Gavin's friend. Yeah, he's a real nice dude. He does not, I met him one time. I immediately just launched into how much Alabama sucks.

He likes it a lot. Right. And I felt bad. Usually, I'm like, I'm sure your Alabama is different than mine. Well, he has your Achilles heel too, where he's a good judge of character, which is terrible for you. That wasn't going anywhere anyway. But he just held thinker Khan. And I think Sally was on her way there when she was on the podcast. Sally LaPage, Dr. LaPage, is it called Christian Con in Alabama? Yeah, that's hilarious. As an alumnus, a native of Alabama,

we not invited back that. I think at the end, man. Yeah, but that didn't make the thinker Con cut. They're just gathering up all the nerds so we know where to go to beat them up. Yeah, exactly. What happened with this world where Gavin frees, that little fucking idiot that we met 10 years ago,

or whatever, 15 years ago now, that idiot is invited to like cerebral con. You know, how was that possible? He talked about winning the lottery. Did he go to think or con? Oh, dude, go ahead. I was thinking about him when I was in England with Matt, and like, I had this weird thing where,

like, I had a last minute trip with Matt and Alfredo where we went to Paris and London for one day each and they were home like I was in Europe for less than 72 hours. By the way, I completely told Gus about that. Like you say what it's for? I don't think so. I have to put in the bus. I told Gus about it now he's he's living it. Yeah.

Oh, we're talking. We're talking. That's fun. One thing comes out. Gus is going to open up both barrels. We can talk. I don't know what I did wrong. I was offered something and guys, it's gonna open up both barrels. We can talk. I don't know what I did wrong.

I was offered something and I took it. It was a good job. I mean, I didn't get paid for it or anything. I was just like, you got to travel. Yeah, I got to go spend 18 hours in Paris and less in London. I wasn't in either place for 24 hours. However, I got to think about Gavin and like where he grew up and I always think about him in England.

We actually did a achievement haunt or episode. Fuck, it's actually the one that comes out Wednesday, the Hellfire Caves is 30 minutes from where he grew up. Really? And so I got to see like the countryside where he grew up and stuff. And I was thinking about how his charmed life and how his career started.

And he's like the one out of 50 dudes that when an elderly person in the neighborhood takes them aside, doesn't get molested. Right, like he's the only one, like he's the one that didn't get touched. Are we the elderly dudes in this suit? Well, it's like a lot of elderly dudes in this life. He also grew up in the UK versus the US.

Is that more prevalent here? That's Gary Glitter and all those, like what are all those dudes that like, isn't it like in England if you're beloved for 40 or 50 years and you die, they find out you're a pedophile? Who is a dude who is like, Patch, not Patcharp, he was the other, Mr. Blobby, all of them, they're all,

Oh Mr. Blobby really? What's the one of the guys from the, who, was he like researching, he was researching, he was researching, researching, he's all porn, in order to shut it down. Yeah, but so was Shaq for a while, right? And I just,

but anyway, no, like, and so Gavin befriended this dude in the neighborhood who was like a nice older man who had a camera. Gay Guruji, and the way it is is Gavin and Therapy, but it didn't. It ended with Gavin having a career. It should end with Gavin taking photos

with a shirt off in front of Woodpaneling. Yeah, that's how that story should end in someone's basement. But no, now he's successful. But now he gets to go to the thinker con. Arguably, arguably, arguably, probably one of the best brands on YouTube, like everyone I know, they don't know what Slamo guys is,

but they've seen the Slamo guys. Yeah, you know, they don't consider themselves like people who watch YouTube videos or YouTube channels. They probably couldn't name them, but if you said that, they would know it. Yeah, I agree, I agree. I can't struggle on to think of what a better they wouldn't know it. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I'm struggling to think of what a better brand on YouTube would be.

Well, not gone. Well, not gone, but there's kind of no's. It's a pause. Yeah. It's a pause. They got their whole, the, the, I've been out of the country for the last week. There's that building we've ranked. There's that building we've ranked.

Phil. Yeah. He's managed to have a pretty good, but as far as a brand and a service. Yeah. Yeah, just the crushing. Just crushing. Yeah, crushing. He's managed to have a pretty good but as far as a brand and a service Yeah She had the dog party was that we talked about dog party Rosanna, and she know yeah small person She's like travel sized. She is tiny. Yeah, I said next to her at all YouTube one She's like a photos of of her working out and stuff. She's fucking ripped.

Well, dude, my first wife was 4'11 and she could, if you pistol off enough, she could have kicked Andre the giant's ass. Like, size means nothing. It's all about rage. Do you think I came to that? That's very scary. I remember the night. I feel scared that I see her every now and then.

You talking about the night you called her and told her that I was acting weird and I can't insist that we go to a strip club. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Yeah, I thought she was gonna kill us all. That was like Bernie Fratboy days of like stupid jokes, playing stupid jokes and that was a prank I tried to pull

on Jeff by telling his wife that he was making us go to a strip club. Not griffin. And the erratically. Sarah, my first place. And that I was acting erratically. Because we had to go, this is weird, we worked in Telecom. And it was like, we were working in entertainment,

we never do the stuff in entertainment industry, but in Telecom industry, we was going like hunting trips and take clients to strip clubs. It was an expected part of the Telecom career field that you take clients to stake dinners and strip clubs. That's what they want, 100% of the time. Not well that's what they want, 100% of the time. Yeah, well, not everybody wants 100% of the time. It was a different time.

Yeah. But no, really, it was to be like, hey, we got so and so coming in from Dallas, they want to go to Sugar. So like, all right, I guess we're going to strip club. So to be clear, what happened here was Jeff said, I guess if I'm going, I bet you should call my wife and let her know

that I'm going there. So he goes outside to call his wife, Sarah, and I just dial her on the other line really fast and cut him off at the pass and say, hey, Jeff's really trying to get us all to go to strip club and we don't want to go. And the joke here was going to be that you were going to call and talk to her and she was going to think

that you were lying to her like, oh, my boss is making me go to the strip club and I got to go do this thing and she'd be like, I just talked to him and she was gonna think that you were lying to her like oh my boss is making me go to the strip club And I gotta go do this thing and she'd be like I just talked to him and he said he's convincing everybody That's not the way she took it at all. She took it as Jeff has had a break from reality and Call off the little yeah, I need to be committed or something like that. Yeah Pretty scary. I forgot about that. I'm curious I'm gonna put a great joke. She had a reason not to like me. I forgot about a lot of stuff, but then I got sober.

Now I'm starting to remember shit again. That's how it works. It comes back. Yeah, eventually it comes back. I don't remember shit. Every now and then I have a weird memory that unlocks in a weird way like either a smell or I see a pattern. I don't know how else to describe it.

I understand completely. And all of a sudden it unlocks something. I'm like, oh, I didn't even remember this. I feel like if you put us and Matt maybe together, or even just the three of us together, we could probably piece Neil most of the last 15 years together. But I'm amazed that the stuff like, I'll just have a conversation with him,

at lunch or something, not that we ever got a lunch, but on the rare occasion. And he'll remind me of something that I had completely and totally expunge from my memory. And he remembers like it was yesterday. It's really weird. We had that read.

You like that Marlowe Hanna? We were in Seattle like two years ago. You took me to restaurants, I didn't remember, and I was like holy shit, we did. And you're like, we used to come here every fucking year. We would sit at that booth, and I had just lost it all. Yeah, it's weird. And I'm sure I remember one or two things that you don't.

I'm sure you do. I think it happened. I think it happened to recently we're talking somewhere about something and you reminded me something I told you forgotten about. You miss remember people's names a lot. I don't have to be like, this is hard for me to remember people's names.

Yeah, yeah. It's a real problem I have. It's just because I don't care. You know that you should know it? I know I should. It's just difficult. Really just extra healthy with that? No, I'm talking about like,

like even people we work with, or people other people, yeah. Obviously I was thinking like in a social situation, when you run into somebody in a party, and then you're like, oh, I don't know their person's name, and so that's the spouses or the partner's job to help you out with that, then I realized you don't go to parties and go outside.

So that doesn't happen to me. That doesn't apply to you, I guess. And anyway, Patrick, I realized you don't go to parties and go outside. So that doesn't apply to you. I guess in any way Patrick, I sent you a photo of a thing to talk about. So I was thinking about this yesterday, yesterday about memory and stuff because I got a new cat. I got a little kitten, little mush cat.

And what are you gonna name it? Mush cat, let's say that. Mush cat, that was a fish. All right. Mush the cat. Isn't the cat redundant? I have this mush. Is the grieving period over for Joe,

and now it's time to go over. Well, he's an orange cat too. I think people are going to think it's like, I'm trying to replace Joe the cat. Joe the cat's like a third orange cat I own. I like, I have a theory, and it's turned out to be true so far with one glaring exception, and that is that orange male cats have the best personalities.

The one exception being Garfield. No, fucking Shamist. He flipped your cat. Oh Shamist. Oh Shamist. Shamist was Gus's cat and he was a fucking nightmare. He was not good. He would do that deep bite.

Like he would bite and like draw a line. I remember when I went to the, I got him from the shelter. The one that used to be down here on Town Lake. I went down to the shelter and they have all the cats like in cat prison. They're all like behind pages and I was walking through and the reason Shema stood out was he was reaching his right front paw out like this. And I thought, oh, that's really kind of cute.

He's like waving, trying to get attention. No, he was trying to scratch. I admit it's too bad. I don't remember why, but eventually you decided that you no longer had room in your life of change to a different place. So I took Shamos over. And do you remember when we brought Shamos home and Sarah first wife again, went up to it and stuck her face in front of Shamos and said, aren't you so cute?

And she'd known the cat. You would have been a nightmare. And you go, don't do that. And I go, don't do that. And she goes, it's okay. He's happy here. And right when she said that, he grabbed her right here. They're off. and she reached back,

already in tears, blood everywhere. And that's what it was like until he moved on. It was, it was like a face hugger from alien, just going there. He'd, deep, she had scars. It was bad. He would sit at the, I don't know if you remember this, but he would sit at the top of the house

on the roof where the roof crested, and he would sit there, and he would just watch the neighborhood. And if he saw anything that he didn't like, like a dog that was 60 pounds bigger than him, he would run down the side of the house and take off after it. He would chase cars. And one day he chased after something and he never came back. He would chase after raccoons all the time. And I assume he's still on an adventure somewhere.

He's still running to this day. He was the meanest, angryest animal. You know what I saw? Saw last week, with like Monday before Thanksgiving, I saw the wild animals that were released years ago in Austin and I rarely see them, the monk parakeets. Oh yeah, you see them around. Parots are parakeets.

I think, right? I think they're parots. It's just a flock of tropical birds, green birds that live in Austin because they escaped from a, wasn't a pet shopper, pet trotter. I think it was like, it's something like that, like in a flood or bad weather or something that got out. Right.

And yeah, there's like a herd of them. And I, you see them a lot on Riverside. Or flock. Or flock. Yeah. A bird herd. You see them a lot on Riverside, like on HB and shit. I was, because I used to live over there, I would assume. Yeah. You know, I lot on Riverside like on HB and shit. I was I still live over there. I

would assume. Yeah. You know, I see a picture of the same years. Yeah. Got it. Got that photo, Patrick a little mush. There's a little mush. Oh, tiny. He's tiny. He's adorable. How old is he, you know? He's eight weeks. Got him at the animal shelter. Town Lake Animal Shelter or the pet's alive animal shelter? So apparently that's the same thing. Apparently the pet's alive is town lake, but the Austin animal shelters out on 183, like where that weird bridge, but it just gave up on street planning when they got to that part of it. Everything goes every direction. It's where a warehouse used to be. It's different though because pets alive, you can't go unless you're 18. Like they wouldn't let million.

At the old town like animal shelter, the one down by town like, kind of over what I live. Yeah, they like I remember Chelsea and Millie tried to go there last year and they wouldn't let million so they were like, fuck you, we're gonna go to, and then I remember because I got annoyed because Chelsea used Millie's account to be like,

to show some outrage. And I was like, don no, she's a kid. Let's not use her Twitter account for outrage, but they ended up going to. She did a Twitter account back. No, she never got her Twitter account back. Man, I petitioned for it. I filled out the paperwork.

And I just never heard anything back yet, but she never got her Twitter account back. So how did that happen? Do you ever talk about that? Yeah, so Millie turned 13. And she had, it's one of those things where you have to be 13. The those things where you have to be, you have to be 13, the terms of services,

you have to be 13 to have a Twitter account. So Griffin created a Twitter account for her when she was, I wanna say 10 or 11. Very fun, and managed it. I thought it was really cool thing her Griffin to do, and Griffin managed her. And it even said, like in the Twitter handle, like managed by Jeff and Griffin Ramsey, yeah, yeah, yeah,

and then when Millie turned 13, she said, hey, I'm finally legal. I can have a Twitter account now. I'm gonna change my birthday on it. And I said, don't do that. There's no reason to do that. Hold off on that, don't do that. And Millie said, nah, you don't know what you're talking about.

And I said, that weird shit happens when you do that stuff. Your Twitter account's fine. You're, it doesn't matter what you do. There's no problem here. There's no problem. Don't watch the book. There's no problem here. And she was like the next morning she came in

and she goes, I'm just trying to get away. Dude. And I go, excuse me, and she goes, I changed my birthday and then it said, this means that you've had an illegal account, we're locking your account. So I was annoyed and also very, I told you so, it was great.

And then it's like, you know, this is your parent, you love those little moments when you're like, this is what happens when you don't listen to daddy. And she have like a 60,000, she had like 70,000 to the followers. And so that's that's a lot of work. It's significant. Yeah, and so I went, I logged into our account. It said, hey, this has been locked because breach the terms of services. If, if in the specific instance, if you're a parent who was managing account for a kid, send us this form with like your driver's license and just such security number and all this bullshit

and we'll take care of it. And I sent it all to them and I didn't hear back. So I opened up another ticket and did it again. And I never heard back again. So if by any chance you work at Twitter and wanna give Nilly's Twitter account back to me, awesome. Otherwise, she's just Instagram. Almost never would I ever want to do a thing

where it's like ask people to do things on social media pressure on somebody for something. I don't know why, this seems like with Twitter doing that on Twitter and getting people to like, try to get Millie her account back would be the way to go. It's just unfortunate, you know? Like I hate when people talk about airlines and stuff and they get all upset about the airlines.

Yeah, I'm not gonna, I've retired from doing that. I've done that once or twice and then feel guilty about it afterward. But I gotta get yelled at at an airline specifically. You can, her account of 70,000 followers. Just, yeah. It's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous. It's unfortunate. The other company is okay to shame is the US Postal Service, of course, because they have no shame. What'd you do? What about now? I'm fucked them.

Did you have a problem? I always have problems with them. This is episode sponsored by Stamps.com. It is not. I did. I literally, so I just be shopping. I had a delivery in my PO box. I'm gonna put my side of my day out.

It was marked as delivered. It was like cool, I have some of my PO box. I went to get it an hour after it was marked as delivered and there was nothing in the box. So I go to the counter and I go, hey, I'm looking for this package. You marked it as delivered, there's nothing in the box. It goes, that's weird. Let me look for it. You go, like, goes into the back for 10 minutes, comes back, goes, oh, here it is. They had

just put the key in your box so you could retrieve this at one of the other little lockers. And I was like, this box would fit in my box. I would they give me a key. They go, I don't know. It was like, did you have a key? Yeah, the guy handed me a key. He's like, yeah, it's in the box right over there. I was like, what a fucking rack. The post office is something I don't think about anymore because it's 2018 and not something that we deal with like we used to, but I just recently,

I'm doing all this, I'm like I have a new book coming out so I'm doing all the press. So I was doing the bungalow podcast last week or two weeks ago with Ezra and Matt, which is they, you don't actually have a book coming in. No, I was being sarcastic. Okay.

It's, because that's what people do when they have a book come out, they early have a movie coming out, they do that. Yeah, fuck off. And so. I was gonna never read it, we're gonna put you to the end of it.

Shut up. So, God, this is why I stopped doing the fucking podcast. No, she had stick to the point, by Jeff's book. Yeah. But I was doing the, I did the bungalow podcast because it was about merch and I started, you know, our merch stuff.

And I forgot how much of our early lives revolved around post offices till we started telling old stories. And it was, it was a major, major part of our lives for three or four years, maybe, maybe not quite long, two to two years. It wasn't constant, but it would peak, and then we have enormous trouble. And it was different, a little bit different back then, because there was UPS and FedEx, but before the Amazon revolution took place, UPS and FedEx were still like premium services,

premium private services. Back then you got a Pitney Bose account, and remember that, and they would give you the scale and that whole thing. What happened to that company? Pitney Bose? I'm sure this was a year-round. It was a sprinkle full, just like the post office. They were the people with where you could stamp your own postage.

Fuck, fuck, you deal. They would do like a fucking security check on you. It was like, it was super expensive. It would do pretty like a licensing fee and all this other shit. But them and the fucking better business fee. It was just a fucking shake, though. It was super expensive. It was super expensive. Like a licensing fee and all this other shit. Like them and the fucking better business fee. Yeah, it was just a fucking shake, though. It was a racket. It's a racket or bullshit shake, though.

Yeah, fuck them. But I don't know if I said that yet. The first thing part was when you drive to like all these different post offices and start mailing DVDs, we'd fill up the back of my truck with it. And we'd go and we'd stamp them all, getting the stamps was the whole story. And then we'd go to all these different post offices because we would show up at one

and they go, you can't send anymore. Too much mail. Yeah, we're like, these have your fucking stamps on it. We paid for this. Prepaid for this. So here, just ship this stuff and we can only take this amount. We'll take a third of it. Yeah, I talked about the day that I discovered that we discovered the, I told the story.

And if you want to hear these stories, listen to the fucking bungalow, guys. But I mentioned that the one story when we discovered the, I told the story, and if you wanna hear the story, just listen to the fucking Bungle Pog guys. But I mentioned that the one story when we discovered the loading dock, what a revelation that was for us. And also, I told the story about how when we tried it by $1400 where the stamps and they wouldn't sell them to us because somebody else might want them. Yeah, the end of Furber stamps.

Yeah, they're like, we're here, we want to buy them. We want somebody else. It's like, can you imagine going to the store like, no, we can't sell you four steaks. Somebody else might want to stay right now. Somebody else might want to stay clean. I want to eat the same. Somebody definitely wants to eat right now.

And her explanation to me was she said very simply, she goes, well, let me explain this to you. Let's say I sell you all these stamps. There were 83 cent Edna Ferber stamps. I remember it so well. I had one. I was going to frame it is massive frame just an 83 cent stamp for you. But 24 by 36 frames just an Edna Ferber.

Still in the middle. Absolutely. But I don't know what I did to this stamp. And she said to me, she goes, I'll explain to you, she goes, let's say I sell you all the 83 cent stamps that I have, because I basically said, I will just buy all your stamps. She goes, how many do you need?

I go, whatever you have, I will buy them, because they were hard to find. And she goes, if I sell you all my 83 cent stamps, if someone comes in and they need an 83 cent stamp, I'll have to tell them I can't sell it to them. I'm like, I'm that guy. You're making me that guy. It's like, this is the person standing right in front of you and you're saying you can't sell it to him. I'm like, I'm that guy. You're making me that guy. It's like, this is the person standing right in front of you

and you're saying you won't sell it to me. Edna Furber was an American novelist, short story writer and playwright. Yes, she was. She was a her novels include Pulitzer, Plymouth, Winning, So Big, Showboat, Simmarin, Giant and Ice Palace. She wrote the first draft of the Matrix too.

Yeah, I'm able to follow that. Interesting thing about you, you use the proper terminology. I learned recently that term suffragette is diminutive. I never heard suffragette. Suffragette. Suffragette used to be what people would say. Oh, but that's considered. I've never heard suffragette.

Would you learn that? You research for your red dead part? So are you learning it? No, I don't know, I read on redder. What was it in your book? I don't have a book. Should I have a book? I agree.

You know, just stop talking about your book. Jeff's new show though. That's even Haunter. Huh. I'm reluctant to say this. Tell us more about it. When does that come out? Where can the people watch that?

I understand you hunt ghosts. That's gotta be crazy. You're funny stories lately. Jeff's show. And I think I'm okay saying this because it's well ingrained now, branding wise with the audience. But it's suffered from what I consider

to be one of the strangest phenomenon in I guess the English language, which is where people will randomly make one word, decide that a word is either plural or possessive. And we worked at a company that people would do that to. The most famous example I can think of, it's almost choked out. there's a company in the US called Eckerd drugs, so there was, it's probably gone then.

It's gone, I think I'm stored by C. I'm stored, yeah. 18 T-bottles. I mean, Eckerds, yeah. And everybody called Eckerd drugs, Eckerds. And they just called it Eckerds. And the name of the store was not Eckerds. It was Eckerds.

We could see it being Eckerds drugs. But no one would ever say, it was Eckerd. But it wasn't, you know, it was just Eckerd. And they had to register domain names for Eckerds and everything else because everyone wanted to make that word plural. And they were trying to do that with achievement haunters. They still do it constantly.

And it'll, it's like in meetings and shit, people like, you know, you and that, and Ezra, your level will be saying haunters. And I'm like, I do this joke now. Ugh. Dude. I can tell my fucking kids don't be ironic because you're just living that truth. If you try to do it too much.

So I've said haunters so many times now that I'm part of the problem. The one I hit here internally is Ristratheath one word. Ristratheath one word is a, no one annoys me too. You're gonna see it written out. Yeah. I guess so. You guess so. I guess so, but I feel like there's a period of time

where we were figuring that out. Well, I think I was talking. Yeah, that period of time was 14 years ago when we figured it out. Yeah. I don't think we figured out too much naming a company, Rooster Teeth. Now we suck. The bad idea.

Rooster Teeth is a shitty name. That was on me, dude. Achieve Hunters a shitty your name. That's on me. Fucking hell. Well, achievement hunters, a bad name because the people that watch the shows can't spell the word.

That's the problem. But 100% fucking dumb all the way around. Ha ha ha ha. Do you look at the achievements for Ha, achievement Haunter, dumb name. They're doubly out of the deal. The only reason that Haunter is a name is because nobody liked it.

I said it as a joke and then in the 11th hour, the 11th, 11th hour, because we went through naming this thing. Every name people came up with was taken, because everything has to go through legal now. So they'd be like, oh, you can't call it that, because there was a show in 1986 called that or whatever. And so it was down to like,

like, boo boys or something. Oh my god. That was never gonna happen. But there were some really generic bland names. And I was just like, I finally put my phone in, I'm like, we're just gonna call it Haunter, because we can call call it Haunter, because we can call this show Haunter,

if it ever gets picked up for TV or whatever. That was a big draw. We can draw the achievement thing. Yeah, achievement. And every other name sucks in his generic and bland. And until somebody can come up with a better name, that's just what we're gonna call it. So eventually I wore them down.

You had a better name. Huh? You had a better name. What was the better name? The better name was, are you there ghost? It's me Jeff. Are you there ghost? This means Jeff is a great name.

It's a great name. It's just too long. It's a novel. Are you there ghost? It's me Jeff is a great name Yeah, but it's too long It's a novel. I was like I used to torture Jeff for a short period of time when he was in half what's coming out that it was at all I showed it's been forever be named forever fucking being named I would just send Jeff emails all day of just random names I think I appreciated the name heroes and half. So the name I had suggested that became heroes and I suggested half-wit heroes. Yeah. Oh really? Yeah, and then it got rearranged to be more like blank and blank. I like chit chat, but nobody knew what a chit was.

Yeah. Yeah. We sat in that fucking room for like two hours and filled a whiteboard with names. I did that multiple times for Haunter before I finally just gave up. Yeah. I think my two favorite things that I said to Jeff were done Jeff and Dragas was one. That was on the whiteboard. And the other one's orange is the new chaotic evil.

That was the good. That was actually my favorite. I'm glad you remembered that one. That was my favorite on all of them, but nobody would allow us to know. Nobody else bit. I thought that was great. Orange is the new cat of evil is great. Naked.

I also liked one two three ghost. But nobody would let me thought that was great. Orange is a new category, it was great. I also liked one, two, three, ghost. Nobody would let me have that one either. What is your ghost? It's a good one, dude. That's really good. How about Ready Set Ghost? I think we had on your market set, Ghost. That's great.

That's great. That's great. And your market set, Ghost. That could be a good tag. I think Trevor came up with that. So what I decided is that we would take all the hilarious, of which there were many haunt or names that got rejected and they would just be episode titles, but you know, I don't know what happened to that.

Yeah. You can't go into your like running theme for titleing stuff. You can't go out like, let's paranormal investigate. It doesn't really work. It doesn't work. Yeah. Let's boo.

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BlablaCara, blablaCara. I'm a man, I often I never have to re record Six at the most the only time I have to re record and that is we get too good and ruchit He's a bunch of pussy's the won't put my ads out. Oh Forgot about that Jesus Christ That's what we should call ourselves what happened. What's he what'd you do? We all stood teeth. That's what we should call ourselves. What happened? What's he? What'd you do? I mean, how might do a goddamn ad read? It's a work of art and they reflucking record it because they're cowards No offense Patrick You buckle. I don't buckle. I walk away and as soon as I leave they have Jeremy recorded sales department

Can you read it? Just too, just too edgy. He's too cool. You're too cool. Yeah, that's how does that feel? That's the wisey-wing blackface in this photo Cool. Yeah, that's how I feel. That's the wisey-wing blackface in this photo. That's the... If you talk about that, I never talked about that. Jeff did a Civil War recreation where he played a yellow fever victim.

I had, yeah, I was a John Dustman with yellow fever, but I was standing and somebody, it's... Where was this? It was an internal firestorm. It was an internal firestorm. Here's what happened. On the set of Haunter, we were promoting it. Because we filmed, I was just figuring it's not in the car.

We filmed nine episodes of Haunter thus far. And so we had filmed a bunch before they even came out. And so we were trying to figure out how to promote it ahead of time, yada yada yada. So we were sending out production stills via Twitter and even though they still on my daughter's account. You see how they call it? BTS stuff.

And Jeremy posted one, I think it was Jeremy, of him and a Civil War soldiers outfit and me standing next to him as a John Dosty yellow fever soldier. Because I was a person, a one of 800 people who died in an unmarked grave in this town in Treesport, Louisiana because I had the yellow fever. Spoiler, in order to make a ghost show,

you have to tell stories about the people that died. Yeah. And some people in the company, and I don't know who to this day, nobody told me, were offended by the photo because they thought I was in blackface. Right. And I wasn't, I don't know where they got the idea

that would be the thing. And it became an internal firestorm, he's not wrong, that required a lot of meetings and an approvals process to releasing stills from, and which is why you don't see a lot of stills from honor episodes anymore, we just walked away from it. We don't want it to, it's not worth the hassle. It was like two days of bullshit meetings, like bullshit Jeff and Bernie and Matt and Ezra meetings and stuff, to solve a problem that didn't exist because I was just playing a guy with the LFever,

but I guess something about the clothes, standing next to the Civil War guy, some people internally thought I was like, no, not one doing a Ted Dancer will be gold. Yeah, the other thing I never heard anything about this. Yeah, the audience didn't think so because nobody's, they're not lunatics, but yeah, so it was a whole thing. Spoiler, it was Bernie who started the hot intro.

It was. I'm writing my own book now. Did you see that? I guess here, to have a dude, Jeff's a racist. In Texas, they're finally gonna start teaching. In Texas schools are finally gonna start teaching that slavery was a central cause to the Civil War.

I saw that, yeah. Can you believe? We, I mean, I mean, the people that will argue that with me to this day, I was recently on that vacation that I was on. I was on a sailboat with somebody for like two weeks and this person was dude, warning flag, red flag, warning bell.

Does actually know. You're on a boat for two weeks. She was there with me. She was learning to sail as well. Like a hot threesome type thing, huh? It's like eight people on a boat. Oh shit, it's a whole thing. It's a of thing. It's like eight people I'm about. Oh shit. It's been a whole new year. It's a whole new year.

The, but a warning flag for sure is when someone says they're not political. Like it's the same as somebody says they don't like drama. Just like, just like slowly back away from that person. Sure enough, this person who's not political and doesn't like talking about politics, talk about politics the entire fucking time. What a great vacation.

And then try one of the things they tried to convince me was the fact that the Civil War was not about slavery. I forget what it is even about. It wasn't even like the states write about. States rights are land rights are something that it was something really fucking specific. And I can't remember what it was because I was just like,

I found my great, great grandfather and a lot of other people wanting to own people. Yeah. Continue to. Continue to own people. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like to own people. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like he in particular was like really about the,

didn't understand why. And the weird thing was, nothing from the US, this was really strange. He didn't understand why they were pulling down Confederate war hero statues around the South. Like that was in particular who he was very upset about. He was up to say,

he's not even from the United States. No, he's not. What is he fucking care? No, I know, right? You know what they did that I understand those things have historical significance, and I don't wanna see them destroyed because of them. But what they did years and years ago,

Gavin and I went to Budapest for a brand deal, or not a brand deal, but like a thing for a video game company. We're just how we met our friend Linda, Linda. And I've been back to Budapest a few times because she's become a family friend. One of the things I did in Budapest, it was really cool, is they took all of the Soviet era statues and they put them in a field outside of town.

And said, if you wanna go look at all this cold war stuff, if you wanna go look at all the pictures of Stalin and all that shit, it's over there, you just go to that field and check it out, there's a park that we just segregated at all to that area. Yep, I don't know why we can't do something like that. Yeah, to me that's the walk in that fine line between history and celebration.

Yeah, I'm more in the destroy it all camp, but if we're gonna keep it, I guess that's the way to do it. Like, I don't see why you would have statue celebrating people who were traitorous to the country you live in now. Sure. I don't think destroying a piece of history. I mean, you're not destroying it.

You're still teaching it. I have to say this though, it's only history because they were left up after the war. Every other war, they tear that shit down. Like, we were celebrating them tearing down the Sodom who's the same one. Remember that was the huge image. You know, that's a great point. And they were just left up as an appeasement kind of a thing. And then, you know, the Confederate flag was flown over state capitals and stuff

like that. And it's a, you know, stars and bars are a battle flag. Yeah. I don't know if somebody's going to be correct to me on that one. Anyway, it was, it was definitely a nation that was fighting against the US. Flag was flown over that nation. It just seems like all that stuff should be left behind. It should have been left behind at the US. Flag was flown over that nation. It just seems like all that stuff should be left behind. It should have been left behind at the time. The problem was it was left to say. And I think because of that, that's why we had so many systemic problems for so long. Not to we've cured those either, but they were so ingrained, like segregation and things like that. They were official laws and everything. It was just like period of, hey, let's not kill each other.

Bloodiest War ever for the US. And let's just go, you know, come up with some kind of nice little middle ground. Sometimes you don't reach a middle ground, but sometimes you don't reach compromise, you know? On some things, and that's one of the things I think you shouldn't be compromising on. I agree.

Just sort of clear, I don't want anybody to listen to this or watching this to think that I'm pro-confederate statues. No, no, I don't want to, I don't want to. I think you're very clear. Yeah, I just don't, I just, if people want to see it and be reminded of that horror and that mistake, then maybe they just like over, it's like over next to the town dump. I'm yeah, over by the bomb meeting because of you. Yeah, let's not, let's not put it on. Let's put it on. I'm so gun shy about stuff now. I, you got to over-explain all the time.

Yeah, I just like, it's so easy to misconstrue things. And you say one thing. And a lot of times, we're in a situation where we're talking, I guess maybe a little bit less for y'all, but I talk four to six hours a day in achievement-hunter content and podcasts and stuff. And you like, a lot of times you'll go down the path and you'll start to explain something,

and you get distracted, but in your head you explained it. And then when it comes out you're like, oh, I didn't explain my point very well or, oh, that's right, I got distracted before I could circle back around. And then you go back and listen and you didn't say everything that was in your head. Yeah.

And so I just, I live in that fear constantly that I'm, yeah, but I don't know. It's a very reactionary world we live in right now. Where is it? It is. So what are you gonna do gonna get your daughter's Twitter account back. She's- Maybe she built a statue for it. Not gonna.

I don't know. I mean, I filled out the forum and I opened up two tickets and that was months ago and nothing happened. So I guess I'm not gonna call Bill Twitter, you know? Tag or whoever it is. He's too busy. I think I just- You didn't know what he wants. What's too busy. I think I just- We just-

What's your best name that you came up with for something? Because we have historically bad names, but Red vs. Blue is a good name for a show. It's a good title for a show. That's the guy who came up with the name. No, no, listen, my first movie's called The Schedule, that's terrible. I named the company Ruserte.

That was even worse. I got one. I think credit for having good names. It's my one shiny example. I agree, it's a good one. The best names I have are old names we used to use for like private communication and stuff like internal email addresses like the old dick fart and the giant butt stuff. But the best on my aim name back in we used to have aim and we'd have to change it all

the time so we get out. My last big aim name that I used was a delicious boner. Yeah. And here's why it was an amazing name, because you were in Virginia. Is that where your dad moved to when he got real? North Carolina. North Carolina. You were a national North Carolina visiting your dad and his new family that he liked more than you.

And I'm assuming. And for Christmas, and you wanted to show your dad that you could like video chat or audio chat through AIM so that you got so that he could like video chat or audio chat through aim so that you guys, so that he could talk to the boys from North Carolina or whatever. Right. And so you test called me. I was at the office and you were there with your first wife Jordan and your dad and his wife and I heard it connect and I heard it on there and I heard it on there and say, like a little aim voice, say, delicious boner has connected.

And I heard your wife go, oh gross. And you go, oh, all right, thanks, that's fine. Yeah, one of the best things ever, am I remembering this right? Didn't aim have the ability to take over someone's computer? Yes. Yeah, that was one of the greatest things ever, whenever I established that with my dad,

because my dad was constantly breaking his computer And I it was like just left it up enough to where I could like get in and like things everything for him You know like the printer didn't work or something like that. He was always fucking something was it Am I remember in this wrong was it your dad who installed word every time you needed to use it? That is correct. That's my dad He had like 40 copies of word Microsoft word installed. He ran the installation of word every single time. He went to run word. And he, I don't know how he installed it

in a different place every time. Here's what's fucked. Very smart man, very smart man, just different era. Wait, wait for it to be new. I met the dude, he was awesome. You're not gonna be that fucking stupid, to JD and Teddy in some capacity. What is it though?

I don't know about that a lot. When do I get the point where I'm just dumb, I'm old dumb. It'll be some kind of VR implant that I can't get because I'm too old. Or it'll be a social media thing. I thought it was something new. I thought it was Snapchat for me,

but then I realized that it was just a fad and nobody used it anymore anyway. I thought it was Tumblr. You're gonna catch so that it was just a fad and nobody used it anymore anyway, so I thought it was a couple of. You're gonna catch so much shit for saying that. Every time I fucking say that, that Snapchat's on the decline, I get called, Snapchat's dead.

Old man, it's more than dead. It's awful. I took so much heat for that for saying that Snapchat was on the decline, just like when I said, when the Xbox One was coming out, I was like, well, why does everyone care about physical media?

Everyone's moving to digital anyway, and you're like, you're full of shit, but what's not to be about a physical game? Also, I think the rumor is that the Xbox one, the rumor is that Microsoft's developing a discless Xbox one to lower price and get it out. Awesome. So it's just a speech to your point,

like the lack of physical media. And they also are going to start, the other part of the rumor was that in order to convert your disc library, again, this is all rumors, totally unsubstantiated, that you at Select Retail, you'd be able to trade in your physical copy of a game for a key that you could redeem to then add a digital version of that game to your library, which is what I think they set originally when Don Magic unveiled the Xbox One. But I think, I'm not saying what they're doing was right, just what they messaged it in

a super fucked up way. And they didn't address people's concerns. I gotta say, I don't buy games, physical media, but I just bought Infinity War on Blu-ray. I think just bought it, but it won't ever came out. And it comes with code. So then I have it also on all my digital devices. And it's like an extra two bucks basically

to have the disk as well. So I just bought it. I do the same thing. You know what I bought it? Mine at the grocery store, dude. Was it like an impulse buy like next to the Snickers? It was right there, it's like, So, I just bought it. I do the same thing. You know what I bought it? Mine at the grocery store, dude. Was it like an impulse buy like next to the Snickers? Right there. It's like, fuck, I love Infinity War.

Also Gavin kept trying to convince me that Blu-ray's looked better than any streaming service. That the bit rate is higher for a Blu-ray disc. Yeah, he full of shit. It's absolutely true. Like 100% true. It looks amazing. It looks amazing.

How much game of Thrones on HBO streaming? There's a lot of blacks in that show because they're in dungeons and shit and castles where there's no lights. The backgrounds are mostly black on the interiors. It's so like a gradient behind people. And I'm just like, over this like a torch or a light source.

And it's like that pulsing gray. That's like squares because of compression. I recognize that that's the thing. I stream 100% of my stuff, and I've bought a few Blu-rays, and they definitely look better, but I'll just, if, like, I have the, for instance, the birds on Blu-ray.

Like, that's one of the Blu-rays I have. That's for H-cock? Yeah, like, I have like five Blu-rays, and I bought some of my favorite movies, birds one of my favorite movies. If I saw it was on TV, streaming, or just on cable or whatever, and I went to watch it, I wouldn't think, oh, you know, I have this on Blu-ray and it's just,

if I just get up and walk over and find it in that drawer and then put it in, I can watch it, Sully better. I go, that's good enough the way it is. No, I just don't give enough of a shit about how much better something looks. It's like graphics and video games. People just go ape shit for it. And then after two minutes, I don't even see it. You know what I mean?

To me, it's like, it's always been very much about the gameplay that being said, you being the star of red dead to I am the star of red dead to you. You will take pride in this. I play it on two TVs. I play it with my treadmill because the open world games I'll play on a treadmill. And then I also played on the big TV in the living room. And man, that it's a world of difference, dude. That game is gorgeous, played on a big screen. He did it, Jack. Really amazing. You're gone, by the way.

Huh? You're gone. I bounced around. Do you? Yeah. I bounced around. Sometimes characters are gone. Sometimes I'm in Valentine and then sometimes I'm in like a bunch of other places.

That's it? That's why. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of funny. Out of all the stuff we've done in 16 years, almost 16 years, almost 16 and a half years, that's the thing that I'm inundated with people noticing. I remember every time we had that short,

those on Tosh.0 for a while, and every time that we rode in there, we'd get hit a couple of times on social media and go, oh right, I forgot about that. Or people would see us on an MTV thing or whatever. But God damn, I get probably 30 tweets a day, sustained still, that are people freaking out that we're in red dead.

Yeah, and it's such a minor little character too. I mean, it was super awesome of them to put us in, but it's amazing that it's like did a lot. Like anecdotally, that must be the best-selling video game of all time, because I feel like if only people that tweet me bought it, it's still, there's still noise. And then the most watched TV show is that to catch a predator episode where the guys were going to repeat the release. Jesus Christ!

Can I get a talk about that for a second? I can talk about that for a second. So that was not, uh, there's this Chris Hansen show to catch a predator. So it's called where they bait. I think it's, yeah, pedophiles to come and then they have like a bait kid or whatever It's like a cop who looks young and they put him in there or him or her and One of them was wearing a Ryshe shirt one time first of all I don't like the people send me photos of that because I don't like those shows I don't want to be anything. I don't want to be involved with that. I was celebrate that I don't want to make an entertainment product based on

Pedophilia and people get under the guise of doing good, but it's really, are they arresting people that's just seem like a real thing? How can you arrest someone on TV? Yeah, well, the cops are there right afterwards. They have like live PD and shows like that. I know, but I always, I don't know, I've always felt like that was like,

I know. I've been around for 30 years. It still feels like it doesn't make it better. It doesn't, yeah. It's still, law enforcement shouldn't come with a network television camera behind it, you know? Anyway, the best beside the point. People watch the show, their popular, people watch them.

And this kid was in, or this cop who was playing a kid was, or a young teenager was wearing a Rishi shirt. They didn't ask permission. To be fair, we wrote them and said, hey, please don't use any of our shirts ever again or any of our merchandise. And they said, no problem. I think they were really cool.

So they were like absolutely, you know, I probably did that. Didn't, you know, I mean anytime you look at, we know this, every time you use the logo and something, you know, you black it, you have to black it out with a little piece of tape

or something like that. That's why you gotta go and die of coke anymore. Cause I read on Reddit the other day, sometimes it was like, is there something new policy at Rooster Teeth? I noticed they're hiding all the diet coaks on the podcast now. Patrick, are we doing that?

I think they're just showing the merch. We're just showing merch. Also by diet coke. It's delicious. That's not, do you get diet Pepsi's the way to go? Really? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I feel like, mm-hmm.

I just learned something about you. Yeah, I've made the switch to Diet Pepsi a earlier this year. What are you like this? And I will never go back. Why? I just, I have a diet. I just, I have a diet.

What's that? Diet RC. Oh, that's fucking gross. Diet Pepsi just tastes better than Diet Coke. And I've had, I've been drinking, I have been drinking Diet Coke my entire life. Like, I grew up with a diabetic father. So we never had sugar in the house.

And so I grew up since I was in high school drinking Diet Coke because that's all that was available to me. And then after you get used to it, you did regular coast tastes like very sugary to me. Yeah. So I've been drinking Diet Coke my entire 30, something fucking years that I've been drinking soda. And the other day, like the other day, like a year ago,

I had a Diet Pepsi and I thought, oh, this is actually pretty good. And so then I switched and now I just drink diet Pepsi when it's all available. See, I grew up with it. I grew up with it a diabetic household as well, but the people in my house didn't understand what a car was, they just didn't know what it was.

It's like my dad, when he was doing low-carp, he was eating stuff like popcorn and orange juice. Oh, wow. No, it's just like, Dad, what are low-carp, he was eating stuff like popcorn and orange juice. Oh wow. No, it's just like, dad, what are you doing? And then he switched to cranberry juice. I'm like, you really don't get this. Even to like, to the point where, right before he died, juice is healthy.

Like, he didn't know milk had carbs in it. I'm like, just, he did labels, right, fucking there. It's right there. My dad was a juvenile diabetic, so he didn't have a choice. He'd fucking kick it real fast. You think, yeah, type one diabetic. Like insulin shots and stuff like that? The three day, yeah. No shit, really. Um, you think you had type one diabetic, like insulin shots and stuff like that.

Uh, three day, yeah. No shit, really. Yeah, I think one of those pumps, they seemed like they were amazing. Those were later on, he was a little old at that point. Um, I don't talk about it a lot. Uh, this is actually quite painful memories, but yeah, there was like a period in my life, most of high school where we went to the emergency room through nights of week. Oh, shit.

Yeah, my dad, well, he was, yeah, he had a very, very delicate balance with his diabetes and he was also had some addiction problems. Yeah, really? So, yeah, like, I would come home from school and be scared to walk in the house because I would be scared of what I'd see. And very often, I'd come home and then my dad

would just be laying in a pool of blood and there'd be like broken furniture and I'd have to call me paramedics and like, my dad died in my arms one time. I don't know, I'd never tell you that story. No. This is depressing podcasts. Yeah, he fucking died.

I was holding him, he died in paramedics for him to bring him back to life. Yeah. It was like that constantly going up. So I hate to move to like a travel anecdote after that, but to lighten the mood a little bit. I told the store in the podcast a couple weeks ago, was it you who was sitting next to me on the plane

when the guy behind us died on the plane? Wasn't me. Do you remember this though? No. Oh my god. It wasn't me. I heard the story, but I can't tell you afterwards. I can't tell in the podcast again because people freak out if I tell the same story twice.

But he died in a one month period. He came back to work. Did I pay my freeing back? I'll tell the story again in another two years. Okay. That's the rotation now. We go two years between telling the same story. Three times. Yeah, I think I passed out. Like, doctor came up and everything the rotation now. We go two years between telling the same story.

Wait, I think I passed out. Like, doctor came up and everything, and he was the guy who was dead, and then he was okay. Oh, nobody did anything? Walk up, just plain. Walk up the point, didn't even get met by medical professionals or anything.

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Yeah, that's a M Lewis 83 84 in chat. Asane, it was Miles. Miles was on the plane with me. What are you doing? I was in the middle of the mile. I was in the middle of this. I'm gonna tell Miles he's not allowed to. I was Miles and Kerry according to Christoph War.

Get the fuck out of here, Miles, okay. Where we going? You must have drew some short aster. That probably would have been RVB days, maybe some really Ruby stuff. Aster or some giant Miles. Wasn't that long ago, it was like two years ago. Was that, wasn't that long ago that happened?

It was like two years ago. Was it, I don't know. I think you're going from my repeated stories after two years thing. Oh my own head. Yeah, you're going from my repeated stories after two years thing. Oh, my own head. Yeah. You're off your cane, man. Jeff showed up and gotten your head. Did you, did you hear, I saw a store in the New York Times day that kind of disturbed me. There's this guy in Texas. I forget where I think I want to say it was like

Ektar County, Texas or something where he was already in prison and he just started confessing the murders and they think he might be the most prolific serial killer ever in the United States. That he may have murdered up to 90 people. On the border? Was he the guy that was killing women on the border? No, I think this was somewhere else. And they're just like, I guess they had already convicted him.

He'd been in prison for a while. And he's old and I was like 78 or something. And he's just like telling all these stories and law enforcement's talking to him and connected the dots and saying like, yeah, you know, he knows shit that wasn't released about these cases. No shit.

Mm-hmm. So it's crazy. They think he might have, in custody, like the most prolific serial killer of all time, and that they know of at 90 people, which makes me think that's a lot of fucking people to have like unsolved murders for. All connected to by one person.

It's the death, I don't know if they want to talk about how many people go unsolved. Dude, did you hear about the guy in Alabama who was there was a shooting? I want to say it a multi-head shot injured. And then this guy was a licensed handgun carrier pulled his gun out, couple walked up to him and according to reports, what I read, shot him within milliseconds. It's a black guy. The licensed handgun owner pulled his gun out.

He's the hero that the NRA always also happened in Chicago, and that was with security at an eye club. Yeah. Like the week before or two weeks before. Yeah, they shot the security guard. He was working and he was working an extra job to make money for his kid for Christmas.

Yeah, the Alabama ones agree just as well. Was there a deep, because how? He pulled over some kind of thing. He told the cop I have a gun in a car. You know what's the worst part is I read about that on a plane coming back from Amsterdam. I was just an Amsterdam, I was still vacation for Thanksgiving.

To go to the end Frank House. I didn't go back to the end Frank museum. We the once was enough sitting outside. It was an entertainment man. We were making a big money. We were running out of the Anne Frank museum crying. But to Netherlands and went to the Anne Frank house. Was the first thing we did in our life style.

Was the first thing we did. You gathered and I, we landed and went to the Anne Frank museum and I sat outside an adventure. I cried for 20 minutes while school kids were running around laughing and I'm like, you don't love, you don't love. Yeah. He got sad and then he got mad at all the Euro teams for this thing. I did.

I was like, this is serious. Pay attention. Um, I was reading about that and I was on the plane. It was like, you know, I was didn't have anything else to do. I'm the Alabama one or the Alabama one. I was on the plane back from the Netherlands, but by the way, British Airways has streaming Wi-Fi now. Like you can pay extra to have Wi-Fi that's fast enough to stream.

American Airlines does not. American Airlines Wi-Fi on a plane, fucking sucks talking. They're getting there, though. They're getting there. They switched over from go-go-in flight to A and flight. We're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking these things and when I like to, I just like to look at, like, I go and I look at, I look at, like, what they say on the comments and helping them post and I look at what they say on Breitbart and I just go like a couple different websites that I go back and forth on just to see, to get both sides, because it's entertaining.

It's like watching a train right kind of, you know? Watching highly partisan people, and their opinions on stuff. So I was reading on Breitbart right after they found out that it wasn't a, that they shot a good guy with a gun, right? And wow, I thought maybe there'd be people going like, oh, that's unfortunate. Maybe we fucked up, maybe we jumped the gun. It was just a bunch of people saying,

yeah, I always black anyway. It's fucking crazy. It's 2018 and it's a fucking major news and the comments are just full of people going like, yeah, Birmingham's too dark anyway. I'm like, Jesus, fucking Christ. It's really fucking nuts. It's disgusting.

It's really nuts. And we were talking earlier about the Confederate war here, statutes and stuff like that. It's like leaving that stuff in place is it contributes to that environment where people can make comments like that and be safe making comments like that, you know, or comfortable, I guess,

to the right word to say, unfuck and believable. And to me, it's like, I know the NRA is not gonna say anything about this. But here's a license, this is your guy. This is their best case scenario that the narrative they push all the time. This is your guy. The good guy with the gun.

Right. You know, he's the good guy with the gun who's gonna solve the problem of other people with guns. Hasn't there been an example of a good guy to be fair? Wasn't that situation at the school shooting in Texas that was about two hours east of here?

Wasn't that solved by a good guy with the gun? Right, you know, ever since I once, I think that there was an example of where that actually worked. I always sent some examples because I said one time on a podcast that you never hear about it. Like you never hear about the good guy with a gun. It's just not happening.

Because here's a couple of instances where it happens. So ever since then, I've been kind of looking out for them. And you kind of try to be fair. You do see it. Yeah. And I just was, I have to admit, I was probably a little bit blind to it before. Yeah. But it's like still, it's just,

we talk about gun control from time to time on this. I have a gun, you know, I own a gun, I live in Texas, I don't, you know, I have, I have guns in my home. But at the same time, it's like if we can reach a point where we could limit the amount of guns and access to guns, I just like feel like we don't need the bad guy with the gun and the good guy with the gun, you know? And then a cop with the gun who shows up,

he shows up, kills the good guy. And then the worst part about this article that I read, besides the fact that cops shot him within milliseconds, which is just like, you know, what's the judgment call being made there? Yeah. Is that the end of it was, and they killed him, and they first they thought he was the perpetrator,

but it turned out later they released a statement saying he wasn't a perpetrator. He was a citizen trying to help out who had a gun and was shot. And they're still looking for the perpetrator who's still at large. Yeah. And then they also say like, oh, and by the way, we found weed at the guys house. They also, that was another one. They also, that was Dallas. We can't keep the street.

They also never contacted that guy's family to let them know they killed. also that was another one was they also that was Dallas we can't keep it street they also never contacted that guy's family to let them know they killed their family had to find out on social media and as of yesterday when I watched the news report on CNN last night they still hadn't the reached out to that family and apologize or said you know hey this is what happened they just had been zero contact with the family, which I find to be unforgettable among all of us. And no matter where you land on the side of the gun debate, that's just crazy to me. What happened to the cop who went into the guys apartment,

killed him in his own apartment? The one in Dallas. Yeah, that's what I found weird. That's what I found weird. And you were thinking of Sotland Springs as the guy with the gun. It was the good guy with the gun. What was the guy, he was a driver, got pulled over,

was killed, I wanna say it was in, was constant or Minnesota? I'm in Minnesota, I think. Was in Minnesota? And he identified himself as a people, said, hey, I'm a licensed handgun, owner and I have a handgun in the car. And then it's all recorded and the cop got scared

and shot him. Yeah. I mean, he's even dying on audio saying, like, why did you shoot me? Why did you do that? He's following all the rules. Nobody said anything about it. It wasn't like a second amendment meltdown,

not protest in the streets over it. I mean, I wouldn't fuck, dude, in this climate, I wouldn't wanna be a cop that has to stop anybody and show and roll up. I mean, it would be very scary time to be a police officer in America right now. Also, I think a very scary time to be anybody other than white in America right now and getting pulled over as well, you know, because there's guns everywhere. And they still encounter. Dangerous situations. I saw like dash camp footage from this cop

car. I want to say it was in Arkansas, where this guy like pulls someone over to traffic stop and the driver comes out, you know, shooting and, you know, the officer retreats and the driver's advancing on him, like trying to kill him and the officer survives, the officer's fine, but you still have, there are people out there who are gonna do that to you. Absolutely. So you're in fear for your life as well. No, I would just say that's why I definitely don't fall

in the category that all cops are good or evil. Everybody is flawed in the category that all cops are good or evil, everybody is flawed. And the only way, but I just can't imagine having, given the current climate of our country and the hyper partisanship, being a person in an authoritative role, having to navigate those situations on a day, it must be the most stressful thing in the world to be a police officer right now.

And it should be, it's a stressful job. But like, oh, I just like, where every action is scrutinized, and you're literally taking your life in your hand every day, and in every routine traffic, traffic stop or whatever, not only are you worried about your safety, but you've probably got to be worried about your career

as you should be as well. But it just seems like a superstar. I can't imagine what it's like to get up and put that uniform on every day. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm assuming too that within these moments, these individual moments, that the person is actually scared for their life in that moment. I would assume so.

I would assume so as well. And then they got along with that. But still at the same time, it's like, I can't imagine. If a normal citizen walked into someone else's apartment, shot him, you know? I know she's, what happened to this police officer? She was dismissed and she's been brought up on charges, right? Yeah. And maybe we won't hear about it for a long time.

I'll look at the problem. I'm stuck in sucks. It all fucking sucks. I just, the thing is, the problem is like, you've been talking about the incident, like the one in the house with the apartment makes up. Mix up. No, it was a mix of,

I like to make sure. The cop, what are the wrong fucking apartment. Well, there's also speculation that they knew each other and there was shouting beforehand. Oh, I didn't make up. I've, I've chosen the wrong floor, which is on the wrong floor, but walked into somebody else's apartment. Yeah. Uh, is that there's so many things that happen.

It's like you can't, you don't have time to spend on any one thing because there's always something new. It's like the error that we live in now, not just from violent acts or gun violence, but also just like anything at all on the political spectrum. It's like people are screaming mad about this and then they're off to the next thing the next day, the next fucking day. We're heading like today that Ukraine is like preparing

for the U.S. We're so focused on our problems, which are huge, right? We're shooting tear gas at people across the border and everything. That's like the, Russia seized three Ukrainian warships and Ukraine is declared martial law because they've said Russia is preparing to invade and hold a ground war.

What will happen if Russia invades you? Nothing. They took fire and Crimea and nothing happened. We did. What's gonna happen? Not a trouble, say thanks Russia for the cheaper gas. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that, that motherfucker, that was, that was the audience hate when we get political. And here we are. But to literally to be so

tone deaf to say, he did or he didn't kill Kishugi brother. We're still supporting him. But, but thanks for the, like, literally, thank you, Saudi Arabia for the cheap gas prices. Yeah. All new low record low. depressing. I think once, I think once we start having, my Thanks for the, like literally thank you, Saudi Arabia, for the cheap gas prices. Yeah, all new low, record low. Depressing time. I think once we start having, my divorce is the least depressing thing I've got going on in my life right now.

Is it really? What are you looking at the news? It's fucking brutal. Is it, is it, once we get to the point though, where there's wars and invasions in Eastern Europe and Asia, is it okay to talk about politics? I mean, is that like,

now is it okay to talk about? I mean, mean, is that like, now is it okay to talk about? I don't know. I mean, it's, you know, I just, I just, I just know the lambasting we get on off topic if we ever encroached. Like if we, if we spend a minute talking about politics on off topic, then it was the entire podcast was unlistenable

and it was like, we ruined it. I get it. Well, to be fair, we don't really talk about politics at all on this podcast, but then you showed up. So we felt obligated to talk about fair enough. Thank you. All just fault See what happens if you fight Jeff on the podcast. This is your doing Who wear my where's my camera there? It's your fault. You know where your cameras? They were on the job. I think where we on the gym and the spotlight. I guess just we don't hang out much the three of us

Now you're busy writing that book Whatever happened to our I am right. Whatever happened to our lunch meetings right in that book. Whatever happened to our, I am right. Whatever happened to our lunch meetings. Oh, they always get rescheduled. They're coming back. They're coming back.

Are they? Yeah, we have to wink in that. I am, I accept that I'm going to wink out. Is it your fault? I messed up by November. That was my fault. I'm a busy boy. I travel a lot.

We had one. I would take you twice in the last two weeks. Fucking brag about it. What was work to brag about it? It was just a job. Jefferson Influencer. She's on the go. You got your own influencer?

I saw people being sued. Who was it? Snapchat was suing an influencer because they weren't promoting spectacles enough. And Samsung was suing a brand ambassador for using an iPhone in public. Yeah. I mean, you sign it.

If you sign. Yeah, I think Samsung was suing the iPhone user for $1.6 million and I don't remember how much Snapchat was suing Their influencer for but maybe Snapchat will make some money finally when they win that judgment Well, they were the influencers paid $45,000 up front in a deal worth $60,000 for four Instagram posts Unlike the least effective influencer ever, because I don't ever get brand deals, nobody contacts me. And now it's all micro influencers, right? They only want people with like less than 20,000 followers

on social, that's like never a thing. Yeah, micro influencers, yeah. Well, they probably have, honestly, they probably have dedicated people to follow them. Yeah, right? I mean, that's, you get one of these accounts that are like two million people following it, then it's like, how much of those are fucking bots

or people that used to follow the account? You know? Did you read about the kerfuffle with Gal Gadot? No. I don't know the name. Can somebody tell me how to pronounce the name of the cell phone company? She had a deal with a cell phone company

to talk about how good the cell phones were and she was called out for making the tweet on an iPhone, which is like, how does that, how is that still happening? How is that still a thing? I don't know. She's so awesome. Oh, it's a way, who a H-U-A-W-E-I. Oh, really?

Yeah. I think the United States is calling for other countries to start limiting their useful technology. Boycott, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like after ZTE, now they're the new supposed bad guy. Really? They put in the chip in?

They got the chip? They don't have the chip. They just got the chip. Oh yeah, it's, here it is. Oh, okay. Yeah, she could call that because yeah, she's via Twitter for iPhone, which is marked it on there. It's like those kind of blunders or just people should be

beyond those at this market. So I can't imagine when she got paid to do that. I can't imagine the gouga though tweeted anything. No, she had somebody who was running her Twitter account. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck? And those people are funny too, like social media people in general. I looked over our social media person's gone.

Social media people are like the highest incident of getting fired because of something stupid they post on social media. Like they'll like tweet something shitty on a plane and then they lose their connectivity, they land and then they're fired, you know? And I was wondering, how do you not know? How do you not know that social media is powerful platform and you're gonna be a fucked over

for making the stupid fucking tweet or whatever? It's a great question. Or snap. You guys snapchat account? Oh yeah, I haven't even logged into it in months probably. I've got it. I moved to Instagram. Yeah, but see, I don't even use Twitter anymore. I use Instagram pretty much. You got to go like you to a tinder. I don't know. Don't snap. You get all the single stuff, right? I knew Jeff was single.

I called him on this because he tweeted that or he texted me one day and he's no fucking emoji. And I'm like, are you using emojis now? And I knew it was because he was single. You gotta use emojis. It's, I just heard this conversation on the Howard Stern show. He was talking about how a feminine emojis are. And everybody that was younger was disagreeing with him.

Well, yeah, it's weird to me and I love Howard, but he uses the word a feminine like it's an insult. And I don't get why. But it's almost like it's an old school thing, right? It's the way it's saying. But it is like, it's funny to see the edges of that dude's age around social stuff and how he was like up in arms about emojis.

Who gives a fuck? Well, I mean, we discussed toxic masculinity today. Yeah. That was just the world we all grew up in. You know, I mean, it was just it was it was horrible It was horrible. It's like and it should be just to be clear to you Like a lot of people like when you say toxic masculinity There's a lot of males that suffer under toxic toxic masculinity

Um, I don't know any of my female friends who got punched in the face five different times Yeah, I like by people they didn't know I got punched in the face on a regular basis I got my ass Remember when the guy wanted to fight us on fourth street? We were walking from the draft house to like Fado or something. Remember that? And like the guy behind me, the guy behind me,

we were walking down four street to go to Fado and the guy, like I was at the back of the group, guy comes up behind me and goes, what's wrong with you, faggot? And I go, what? Talking to me? He was like, yeah, what are you looking at? Like, well, you, you're yelling at me. And then like, you wanted to fight? He was like, yeah, what are you looking at like well you you're yelling at me?

And then like you like you wanted to fight all of us right there There's us three and Matt and maybe Jason was there. I remember you getting single to out for something at one Yeah, and then like his friends came and grabbed him and we're like, oh sorry. He's just having a bad night. I was like Okay, I will say walking down the fucking street. I don't know if it's like this everywhere But if you're a dude on I would say walking down the fucking street. I don't know if it's like this everywhere, but if you're at dude on 6, 36, which is the area of 6th street,

where it's like the tourist trap, it's like our bourbon street for people that aren't awesome. At two in the morning when the bars let out, you've got a 30% chance of getting into a fight whether you want to do it or not. Just because it's just dudes that didn't like pick up a girl who are mad and drunk and want to fight. Dude suck.

Yeah. It's a, she'd be clear, subset of dudes really suck. want to fight. Dude suck. Yeah. It's a, she'd be clear, subset of dudes really suck. A subset of dudes really suck. And they, it's like, and I grew up with all those dudes. Yeah, well, it feels like you just want to like, take that percentage, whatever it is of dudes.

And say, hey, thanks for getting us through evolution to the, like, let me say we're two tigers and everything. You guys are just, we're tiring you. You know? We can take it down to that. We're just, we're just you. You know, take it down to that. We're doing that. Yeah. We're just, we're gonna bench you guys for a while.

We got a society now. Yeah. That's be nice. Hard to find those guys, because all the girls are fucking them now. So, Jesus. Jesus. Sorry.

I'm like 10% in so. So, Jeff, what's the name of your book again? How long has it been since I've done this show with you? We're here. Here we go. Yeah, here we go.

I did do one like six months ago. Oh, it's too bad. It was good for once a year or so. Twice a year. That's there's 12 months in a year. That's my mandate. Twice a year. So we'll be able to get some fights.

So you were talking about going to Amsterdam. I went to see a movie the other day and I saw a trailer for an upcoming Van Gogh biopic where Willem De Faux plays Van Gogh. It's like a perfect- It was like at a tournities game. I did go to the Van Gogh Museum. It looked really good.

So we kind of talked a couple of weeks ago, this is like super political podcast. We talked a couple of weeks ago, this is like super political podcast. We talked a couple of weeks ago about cultural appropriation, specifically with the white actors playing, you know, whatever. And then later in that conversation, we actually talked about them converting domino to a character that an African-American actors could play. And that was, you know, the audience called me out on that,

for not calling you out on that. Because we're talking about that, we're talking about like, Scarlett Johansson playing. Oh, she was gonna to play the trans person. Yeah. No, she was going to do that. But then she played, she was going to go to the show. Yeah, she played the main character.

People were set up by that. People should just be upset that that movie sucked. I got hurt about this van Gogh thing because I read about it. I had it in my notes for a while, but I didn't bring it up because Willem DeFoe was, they said he shouldn't be allowed to play this part because he's far too old to play Van Gogh. At that point, it's like, it's Willem DeFo. He's a phenomenal actor. He can't play someone younger than himself now.

I mean, where are the lines on that? I'm going to go when he died. Isn't that one of the things? You know what's going to be, you know what's going to be something we're going to see in our lifetime? Uh, 37. I wouldn't be surprised to hear in our lifetime. Maybe very soon that someone gets called out

and actor actors gets called out because they gained weight to play a part, which is now like a thing that they do, like Mack on Owie Sonny is now super fun. Or a Christian bail. Christian bail in the fucking big shore. And Christian bail too, every film he does. Yeah, Robert Javier used to be that way too.

But I wouldn't be surprised if we hear like, they get called out because they should have given the part to a heavier act. Right. Instead of this person going out. I do, I do. Where you can change your weight, you can't change your heritage. Mm-hmm.

I know. I know, but I'm not afraid. You can't. What I'm saying is that what becomes a defensible culture is expanding. Yes. Mm. I agree. You don't agree with that? I mean, see, politics are a defensible culture is expanding. Yes. You don't agree with that? I mean, even politics are a defensible culture.

I think awareness of those issues is expanding. And sensitivity to those issues is expanding. Right. I feel like Megan Kelly already litigated this and took care of it. We're very recently replaced by digital copies anyway. This fucking Lion King trailer that came out, they caught live action. They caught live action. Live action. But yeah, I mean, it's just, it's only a matter of time before there are digital stars. Well, we saw, remember the dancing video,

didn't we talk about that a couple of months ago? Did I tell you about that? Of course, they can, there's software that can be used to like take a photo of you and make you dance. It looks fairly photorealistic where it looks like you take a person and you make them move and these great dancers, you're just mapping their structure onto an actual dancer. It's the same thing. We're just going to further step away from not needing the mocap data and just being

able to program. They take somebody's face, like Obama, and then they just put some little dots on their face, face mapping, and they start talking and it maps the animation and the movement to Obama's face. So you make them basically say whatever the hell you want to. Speaking of dancing in the crazy, this is a off target a little bit, but you can see that video somebody posted on line the other day of Monty dancing, playing DDR. Oh, you know, pump it up. Pump it up. I forgot how much that dude loved that shit.

It was fun to watch. Yeah, the, yeah, given that banner from the first RTX, it was the Montiome experience. It made me, it made me, I got the biggest smile. I watched that video like four times over and over again. It was so great to see that. I forgot how into that he was. Yeah.

You know, that's a big DDR fan. You. No way. he was. Yeah. You know, that's a big DDR fan. You. No way. Hey, turning. Yeah. She has a dedicated DDR machine. I guess I knew that. You're right.

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Patrick, fire up, re-record number eight. Yeah. Did a- No, we're going with that. Did I adequately promote Achieve Mahana? I wanna make sure I don't get yelled at afterwards. When does Achieve Mahana come out, Jeff? I think it's on Wednesdays.

You think? Yeah, it's on Wednesdays. It comes out on Wednesdays and season one is about halfway over and you have to be a first member. So sign up for first or I will never make, like listen, it's an expensive show to make. Here's my plea to the audience. Yeah.

It costs like, I don't know if we can say how many millions of dollars to make this show. Not no. For two episodes. $116 million dollars, it costs to make those 16 episodes. And I don't get to make any more of you guys don't sign up for first. So please do.

And maybe we see some ghosts. Maybe we don't. Maybe Jeremy got touched by ghosts. He did. You saw that episode, right? I don't know. Yeah, you guys scratched. We, we, this episode coming up, we try to summon Satan.

I'll say that. Do you really? First ever say ones. Yeah. And we use a Ouija board for the first time. So is there any like part of you left that's a little bit religious where you feel like even saying those words is, like an incantation or something?

Is that a bad idea? No. And that, in that respect, no. If I watch the movie, the extra-sist yes, that's the only thing that gets me scared. Religious horror movies, religious horror scares me, but in those situations, like I think it's a holdover from when I was a photographer in the army.

Like something about when you put a, when you put the lens up, nothing else exists. Yeah, and you feel fearless. Like it didn't matter. I get no matter what I was doing on the army. If I had a camera lens, I wasn't scared. And something about like, if I know there's a crew and we're spending the money that I asked Rupert T4

to make the show, I'm kind of like a lot of fear subsides. Got you. It also, I'll be honest with you. I am the big believer on the show and I have believed in Ghosts my entire life and had my own experiences. The show is- Wait, you didn't explain that?

My ghost, could you say this in the intro for the show, but you just- Oh, I never ever told this for you, I can. Yeah, I was gonna say it. I was like, I haven't been holding on to it for anything. Yeah, I saw Ghosts when I was a kid and I'll explain that in a second.

But my faith in Ghosts is a little bit shaken. He took pictures of me in front of Woodpeg. Yeah. It's, it's, it's where I got a Rissage shirt when I met him. It's the lovely old man in my neighborhood. Now, when I was a kid, I lived in Jacksonville, Florida at the time, and my parents had taken me to the movies. I remember it being the lone ranger,

but I might be wrong about that. Oh, fucking older, you can go ahead. Really? It's been like 82 or something. When did the lone ranger, but I might be wrong about that. Oh, fucking older you. Okay, go ahead. Really? It's been like 82 or something. When did the Lone Ranger come out? 1957. Yeah, I can't picture that being a color.

That 80s old lone ranger. Was it like on Saturdays, when you played Nickel to get in? That darn thing. I tried with the legend of the lone ranger? What year did that come out? 1981. Yes. There's a character, there's an actor named Michael Horst.

And the legend of the lone ranger. Did he's an actor named Michael Horse and the legend of Lonerade. Did he play Silver? Michael Horse plays Tonto. So it was, the timeline is a little wonky because I remember being that movie, but I also remember being about eight. So maybe that was something in 83. But I was living in Florida at the time in Jacksonville.

And my parents took me out to my mom and my stepdad, took me out to the theater, to see a movie, and we came home, and we lived in this house on the St. John's Bay, where you walked in, it was a super 70s design, where it had like a sunken in living room, right? You know what I'm talking about? You think it's that living?

But you walked in the house, and there was just a wall, and then to the left were the bedrooms, and to the right was the kitchen, and then right past the wall were two open doorways and you'd walk into the sunken and living room. Got you. So I walked in the house, my parents took a right to go into the kitchen

to get coffee or whatever the fuck they were doing. You're gonna make out. Maybe they were finger banging or something. I don't know, I don't know what they were doing. I was a kid. But I was gonna go to my bedroom, I went the other way and I think it was probably like, my mom was probably like, Jeffy get ready for bed, it's 9 p.m. You know, you know, you know, you went the other way, and I think it was probably like, my mom was probably like,

Jeff, you get ready for bed, it's 9 p.m. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know. And so, and I looked over, did you ever agree to anything the first time your mom asked and her, and only child, does that ever happen? I'm a prick, as a kid. And I looked over to the right,

and there was a lady in the living room sitting on a, like a lazy boy, like on the arm of a chair, and she was sitting on the chair like this with her hands in her lap. And I can tell you now that she was Indian or Pakistani. She had like the gear on like a hijab or whatever it's called or an abayah is what they called it in Kuwait. And she had like a dot and she was very or had like this ornate outfit. And I, well, I just, it's weird to say Indian because I think I said I just saw the, the lone ranger.

I don't think it was the lone ranger, but she wasn't an American Indian. She was like a, from Indian. Yeah, she wasn't an Native American. And, I think Gus just made fun of an American. And I had never seen an Indian before. So I didn't know how to articulate that for years.

And it wasn't until years later. Yeah, at like six or seven or eight, yeah, I guess I hadn't grown it up in Florida. Between Alabama and Florida? Yeah, so I didn't understand what I was seeing. She just dressed very oddly to me and I saw her and I went, oh, so I walked into the room and I got about 10 feet from her and I said,

hi, are you looking for my parents? They're in the kitchen and she just stared at me and I stared at her for a second and I just got this in, I felt in the kitchen. And she just stared at me. And I stared at her for a second. And I just got this in, I felt like the room got cold and I got this intense feeling of dread. And she just kept staring at me. Um, like she was looking through me. I remember that and I remember getting really scared.

And I said, do you want my parents? And she just kept looking at me. And I started to feel minnest. The only way I can describe it. Like I felt like I was in danger. I want my parents and she just kept looking at me and I started to feel minnest to do the only way I can describe it. Like I felt like I was in danger. And I screamed, mom, dad, and she just kept looking at me and I turned around and I ran into the kitchen

and grabbed my mom and brought them back and she was gone. And- I said extended experience. Yeah. Then like something out of the corner of your eye. No, I confronted her and I was eye to eye with her. And, um, yeah, and that was,

and did you ever look into it further when you were older? Like sleep again. Yeah, what was was anybody like, did anybody die there before? It was a house we're renting. We probably, we moved not like maybe six months after that or a year after that to another neighborhood.

I wouldn't even know. I remember rudimentally where it is. Maybe my mom could tell me the address. I can go look into it. But yeah, I don't know. It was a fairly old house. I must have been, I don't know how old it was. It was, this was 1982 or 83, and it had been around for a while.

We definitely weren't the first people to live there. The thing that was just odd to me was I had the hardest time articulating to my mom, but she was wearing because I didn't understand it because I had never seen a person in, like, whatever that outfit is. It's like a sorry or something? Yeah.

And yeah, and then like, she wasn't in the yard, she wasn't re, like she didn't go through a door. The door was still locked when my parents came in and shut the door. And I ran right by the front door. I was a span of seconds, we came back. I never saw her again. I never, I don't remember experiencing anything else

weird about that. Although I will say my mom doesn't remember the experience. I've talked to her about her a couple times and she's like vaguely like maybe, but she's not sure. But yeah, I was, that was fucking super scary and that stuck with me my entire life. I remember it like it was yesterday, that moment. Yeah, and I can only chalk it up to her

just by the irrational fear I felt and the fact that she was gone, that I don't think that there was an Indian lady living in our closets and I just caught her out, you know, I felt in the fact that she was gone, and I don't think that there was an Indian lady living in our closets, and I just caught her out. You know, I think she was a ghost. So, what'd you do? You got to do an episode of Cheema Hunter at that house. I thought I could find it, yeah.

Yeah, you would find it, yeah. If it could turn down, just fucking old. I'm not as old as you. So, the lower I'm barely older than you. And I just lost like 15 years, I shaved that beard. All the houses, you look good, you look good. Whatever you're doing is working well. I'm doing the same thing you are, don't keto.

You're doing keto. Yeah, you just didn't know it from about the carbs. Yeah, no carbs, no sugar. I do use stupid things now. I've lost a ton of weight. Anything I wouldn't recommend, but work really well for me, is I do keto, but I also do this fasting thing,

where I only eat four hours a day. I was gonna ask you what can love that. What's the deal with the intermittent fasting? I'll be eating four hours a day? That's it. I got to get like 2000 calories in four hours. 500 calories an hour. I pretty much do 18 hour calories and like one. What is the benefit of that?

Okay, this study, it took mice. Okay. Three groups of mice, ready? Three blind mice. Mice, two mice. And they said give one mice, group mice, give them food, all the mice, give them food. All the food they want to eat, go crazy. Just like, that's how I usually eat.

Just all day long. I've seen you fucking gorech myself. Face down. Yeah. Open a bag of chips and go all the way to the bottom. Then the other ones, they did calorie restriction. Calories and calories out. They said, they give them a restricted diet of calories.

Because reduced calories is historically the thing that gives you the greatest longevity and everything. Then the other group mice, third group mice, said, give as much food as they want to eat, they can eat an hour a day. That's it. They can eat gourds themselves fully for that hour, like a lion.

Like a lion, or like people who would hunt, you know, and then we do that. They even say that for intermittent fasting, some people really prescribed in the notion that you should start eating at sunset. That's like the when you should time coming off your fast, to do it. And you know, it's one of those things too.

It's a lot of religious doctrine for like the practical doctrine that people live day in and day out. A lot of that had to do with health and nutrition, a lot of it, like keeping kosher and things like that. Those are really nutrition rules, right? And fasting has always been a big part of religious experience. Anyway, these three mice, the fasting mice lived longer, far longer than either of the

two other groups. They fully expect, of course, the mice were eating 24 hours a day as much as they want. They knew those fuckers were going to die. Then the calorie and calorie out guys, they thought, okay, this is the group that's probably respect to live longer, but the fasting ones did the best. I also watched a video from Terry Cruz. Terry Cruz says he does that. And at my age, I think Terry Cruz is about my age

maybe a little bit older. It's like anything that's fitness wise, it's like it gets like this downward slope of hell. Yeah. As you get older, and especially for dudes, I think. Well, Terry Cruz is doing it. I mean, if Terry Cruz is doing it, so I thought, eh, so I watched this short little video by Terry Cruz

on YouTube where he's interviewed and he talked about it. And I thought, I give it a shot. And it works well for thought, I give it a shot. And it works well for me because I deal real well with do this or don't do this, where I don't deal well with, and you guys know this knowing me so long, I don't deal well with moderation.

No, you're right. I got no filter for fucking moderation. If you told me I could eat one potato chip a day, and like, that's it, I would eat 12, you know, in the first two seconds. and then I'd eat the entire bag. It's like slowly but surely I would do that. Whereas if it's like, you cannot eat at this time, I just don't eat, that's it.

Yeah. I've found it to be similar like, I can't eat some candy. I have to eat all the candy. Yeah, man. So it's easier not to eat any candy. I also don't think I have many addictions, but I have to admit, there's some of carbs that like, if I start eating it, I just don't think about anything else.

The weird thing is like, actually can buy something in the store, like a bag of chips, or she buys these, is that San Francisco chocolate? Gear Deli? Gear Deli, you're my friend. You're my friend, right? Gear Deli?

Gear Deli. Thank you. She buys these little squares. They got caramel in them. Good. They're really good, I've had those. Yeah, so buy them and they'll go're really good. I've had those. Yeah.

So buy them and they'll go in the cabinet. Me, I'm in the store going, I'm not buying that, I'm not buying that. And I walk away. I can make the decision within the moment. If they're in the house, I'm doomed. It's like, I just, I'll literally be in the kitchen. I'll be eating something. I'm like, how do I get here?

How do I, I, it's like, I don't remember walking in here. My mind was racing. I think I'm an emotional leader too. My mind would be racing and I would get myself fired up about something that I'm thinking. And then I might, it's just a response to go eat. And I don't know what that is. So, it's easier for that.

I will say I'm not one to compliment either of you for any reason. I know it well aware. I pride myself on that. But you look great. Thanks, dude. You do. You'll make out after the show. No, I'm on post chef. You're first exclusive.

You look fine as well, but I can tell that you've dropped, say, I have any pounds, probably, 80 pounds. No, but I thought you've dropped a lot of them. Not that much, but I dropped the bunch. Right before my boat trip, I did kind of get off of it and I get back to it. And you and I both, you've been doing Keeto long, and I have, but we both did it independently.

I had no idea you were doing it until you texted me and you're like, hey, are you doing keto? Well, there's like, you told me about, or I think I learned it from Lindsay because she was making keto cupcakes. Oh, yeah, for you. For you.

And I was like, oh, Jeff's doing keto. So I came and talked to you about it. But that's not, dude, I'd never come and talked to you about something like that. Because I know you'd be like, that's fucking horseshit. And you know, because I would launch into you.

Yeah. Because it'd be something about trying to better your life. Anything you'd be like, I'm gonna kill that. Anything any of you ever do, I have for betterment, I will ruin. Jeff bonded with you once over the fasting when you fasted for like three hours with you. That's true. I fasted for 12 hours.

We did the master cleanse. Well, at 12 hours, including sleeping. Yeah. Did you fasted for like three hours? He's getting a record. He skipped breakfast. I skipped breakfast and lunch. Yeah. You passed it for like three hours and you're gonna break it. He skipped breakfast. I skipped breakfast and lunch. It was dinner they got me. The problem was they were like, you can have,

I remember we were working, you're like, you can have six of these molasses water things a day. Whatever the fuck was in it. It was maple syrup, corn and pepper and lemon. Yeah, there you go. And I was like, I can have six of these a day. I had six before lunch. And then I was like, I'm fucked for 24 hours.

This is it. And I was really mean. Do you remember why we did that? Because Robin did it. David Blaine. David Blaine. David Blaine was doing it to prepare for one of these stunts where he goes and lives in a box.

Yeah. New York Times for a week. And that's what he was doing. New York Times. New York Times. New York Times. New York Times. New York doing. New York Times. New York Times, you're leaving in a box with the fucking newspaper. There's no way. I was living in the front page a little,

the editorial box. Hey Patrick, when Gus is re-recording all three of his ads, can I re-record that part too, thank you. All right, so we're gonna be recording and let's get to that. All right, thanks for watching. Are we done? Oh shit, well I'll see you guys in six months.

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