Rooster Teeth Podcast - RT Podcast #212

Episode Date: April 2, 2013

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Celebrating 10 years of Rooster Teeth. One decade of our lives. Two decades. No, it's not. We're celebrating. We're celebrating. There was the 2000s in the 10s. Don't do that.

We've been around for two decades. We're celebrating our 21st anniversary the 10s. Don't do that. We've been around for two decades. We're celebrating our 21st anniversary Two decades of awesome internet content seven years old when we started this So I was talking with Gavin today about that so we marked the 10th anniversary of the company with the First time we aired episodes of red versus blue which was April 1st 2003 correct the trailer actually came before that. It was like August of 02. August of 02.

But that's the day we officially started as Ruchite Productions. And Gavin, you found the series when? How old were you? What episode did you come in on? I found it at Episode 5, and I became a sponsor, so I could see episode 6 early, and I was 14 years old. I've got a funny story about that if I could take a sidebar. Go ahead.

I remember Gavin before we knew Gavin, because he did that thing that many kids did at the time where he tried to get a free sponsorship by scanning me. Yeah, I did that. He emailed me saying that he was really depressed because his parents had just died and he wanted to give a free sponsorship. My entire family was dead, and also it's my birthday.

I'm like, I think I replied with fuck off kid. Get out of here. I remember this time quite fondly 10 years ago because I was doing really well at school and it was the last time I did well at school. And I found your website and I probably spent four hours on it every night. I believe it's not going to hold the bottle of champagne with the guard off like that in that position without popping the cork. It will keep the tension up. I just want to be awesome because I've had a

terrible cold ever since our South by Southwest party for like three weeks and I just took a bunch of cool medicine to try to get myself ready for this live stream. I just want you to be my nightk keep going. You're not to watch. This is X-rated. Hold it still. Are you twisting his knob? Yeah, I'm going to let the proper version go. You guys just sit in the corner watch hole. How much is this?

Is this extra? Man, that's a quick-temotion. I'm not into that. All right, just there we go. The all-indian burn. Oh, yeah. That's the ultimate tease it. Ooh for you. I wish it were you put it down and not going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. I'm going to be a little bit more patient.

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I'm going to be a little is? Yeah, I'm healthy. Dad, just the customers, they don't actually come with you. You know, you can hold the sneeze, right? You don't take it. No, it's not. He says you can do it. I cannot do it.

You go, you let the sneeze happen, but you get lost. You go, and then you release it slowly. No. You think it's like a politeness? Absolutely. It's the only polite British people can do it. Yeah, I'm sure you're saying. Yeah, well, he keeps telling me to do it because we used to work in the back office.

The first thing Gavin ever did for us was he did a mini series and remember some blue. I did Griffball highlights before that. You did really? Yeah. It was one of the first things. Oh yeah, you did all those EA commercials too. Yeah, did commercials. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

How could you do Griffball highlights because you were there working on seven when we made Griffball? No, no, no, we made Griffball in 2007 right and that was when he worked on relocated. No, that was 2009 So 2007 so what were you doing there? No, I wasn't that I was remote. I was at home, but we Get him through file share So did you have the actual did you have the actual like map files that I was using to make RIPPOL? No, I mean, we would have submissions, wouldn't we?

Yeah, well, I want to check my log, sorry. So you would get stuff from file share, and then? Yeah, I would get a ton of emails with links to the Halo 3 file share, and I just download all of them and look through all of them. It was really time consuming actually, but a lot of fun to do. I don't think they're actually online anymore. Probably not, because I guess it was before we were using YouTube

for that kind of thing, so it was embedded on the Gryfftall site. It's a flash file. Where in there? It was a long time ago. Yeah. Chris, speak for it. Chris is over here. He's going, he's going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's going, he's going, he's going, what?

Okay, put my love on this side. Oh, I see that face in this way. I see. I'm about to fucking steal second place. I'm doing it over there. Oh, my God. It's going to take a second. My apologies to anybody who's listening on the...

We have a lot of people here. We're on location doing a shoot and we've been filming all day, we did some stuff this morning. We had a lot. Yeah, and then we had people come over here to help us set up the podcast. And I think we don't acknowledge them enough.

So I want to thank everyone who's out here, who did a lot of work setting up the lights and the cameras and dealing with me being sick and coughing and sneezing on everything. You should let them have your leftover champagne. I'll let do this. They can have my champagne as much as they want. But we're out here at a race track and I'm kind of glad that the engine noise is kind

of subsided. It's been pretty loud most of the day up here. We have a 1080c. I'm coming around in a couple minutes. Have you ever been to a race before? I have actually, because I worked on a race car movie. Oh yeah. Yeah, I worked on a movie called Driven,

with Silvestre Stallone. So I got to go to a few race tracks, and it's just deafening. Then aren't you, we can even think. Aren't you a member of the crowd that gets crushed by a tire or something? I am.

I am. You go crushed. I got crushed by a tire, me and my friend. You go crushed by a tire or something? I am. I am. You go crushed. I got crushed by a tire. Me and my friend, crushed by a tire, me. What's that? Go crushed by a car in the short this week. That's right.

I did. I'm getting crushed everywhere I go. I get, yeah. I think actually we might be putting too much blood into our shorts because you were telling me, you saw me walking around the office and I was completely in the attors and all bloody. And you said, oh, is that from that short that we just put out this morning? I was like at the catters and all bloody and you said oh is that from that

short that we just put out this morning I was like oh that's from a different short so we've been coming to let's maybe I've gone to that well too often. Which you want to talk about that then now we've started making shorts again. Yeah that was a big thing that came out with April 1st as well. Yeah. That's a April fool.

Is it a joke we're not really doing? One of the worst things about having our anniversary being on April 1st is everyone thinks everything we say is an April Fool's joke. It is totally 100% ruined April Fool's Day for me. It's the only day of the year we try not to be funny. And I think we're succeeding on this podcast. Absolutely. Do you think that has made April Fool's more annoying?

Absolutely. Yeah. Sure. Well, you know what's made me- I mean, it's like everything else. First of all, everyone loves it. Everyone thought the April Fool stuff was fucking hilarious. And then everybody got sick of it. And now what you're left with is more people whining about April Fool's jokes than there are actual April Fool's jokes now. So now

the winers are more annoying than the actual jokes themselves. I can ignore the jokes, but I can't ignore every single person I know is saying how much they hate the jokes. but I can't ignore every single person I know saying how much they hate the jokes. What I don't like is when other people that we know do try to do April Fool's jokes on us, not in that zone at all. We're always focused on what we're trying to get done. Like today we put out a bunch of stuff. Right.

And we're just like very like heads down kind of like focused on what's going on. And it was like a couple of years ago that the people who run our store called up on April 1st and said, I think it was when we were running our TX. Yeah, first our TX was selling our TX tickets. And they got us really bad called up and said that the store had crashed and that we were taking out all of the stores, which actually did happen to us

before in real life. Right, when we were, but not with a different store company. So that wasn't, I wasn't a fan of that. Practical joke at all. I don't understand that. I'm saying that I can heart attack. And then I was like, wait a minute, this is April Fools. You know, and our store, our store was totally fine.

That's unprofessional. Yeah. And we fired them. Yeah. Yeah. That's not true. April Fools. You should tell about about your plan.

April Fool's. Oh, I said it'd be funny. Is to, if you have to fire somebody, wait until it's full-fools day. And then like, because when you fire somebody, it's always dramatic and they get upset. And there could be a lot of throwing and shit like that. And so I thought it'd be funny.

Like, bring guy in. You're going to fire. Bring him in April Fool's day and go, hey, table first, so I just wanna let you know, you're fired, wink. And then, and keep that going. Like, oh, here's your severance to sign that wink, wink and everything. Welcome all the way out of the parking lot,

like just make it all part of the joke until they realize eventually we need to know that yeah, he actually did get fired. I think it'd be great. I think you can really diffuse it. You'd really enjoy it too as a person getting fired. I've never heard about somebody complain about being fired on April Fool's Day.

You always hear about Christmas. That's a bad one. Yeah. And then why do companies always fire around Christmas? Is that because they're getting their year end numbers down or something like that? Oh, no. And so they just fire people at Christmas?

Maybe like the CEO is just like raging assholes. So like, I want to pick the worst possible time to let people go. I don't know, man. That would be, that would be pretty serious. Happy holidays, Rick. That would be really serious. Have you ever been fired?

No, I tried to get fired once at my previous job, where I built the fort, and this animated venture about it. Yeah. And I would show up to work drunk at 10 AM. And they wouldn't fire me. They wouldn't reprimand me. And I got to the point where I had to quit, because it's like I didn't respect them, because I wasn't getting punished for they wouldn't reprimand me. And I got to the point where I had to quit because it's like, I didn't respect them

because I wasn't getting punished for all the bad things I was doing. What, you just escalate it? I did, I was doing like the absolute worst things I could. Listen, it's what I was going to learn now in today's society, it's really hard to get fired from a company. Yeah.

I don't know what I could have done more. Like I could have hired a hooker and fucker, you know, at the office, and maybe I'd still be there. I don't know. Go ahead. We're listening, Mr. Surrell, huh? You think I would work in our office? What would it take to get fired in our office?

We actually fired people, but I mean, what would it take for Gavin? Let's just say Gavin. What would they for Gavin to get fired? Please, I'd like to know. Yeah. What would it take? Punching somebody would be a physical fight?

Yeah. What if, uh, I'll somebody would be a physical fight. Yeah. What if a little bit hard draw the line between like, oh, it was behind the scenes thing, where we see each other in the balls. Yeah. People slap Gavin all the time. It's true. It's funny.

What do you next time somebody hits you, would you like for them to be fired? Nah. It's in the employee handbook. The employees of RISG definitely have an advantage that no other employees have. Where as long as there's a camera present, you can just do pretty much whatever you want.

No, no, not such a rule. They've got a CEO down there. I don't like that. We had cart launch. Just whatever you're doing, doesn't matter with camera right there. There's four cameras here right now. There's four cameras here right now.

Totally fine. Hey, I wrecked your car. Camera. Camera. So I'd like to go back to talking about something before my mic shut down and we won the pennant with Chris. We had a thing that happened today where I always said my secret to her power is the fact that I could fall asleep anywhere. And I absolutely demonstrated that today because we flew from Austin to Atlanta and I was

asleep before he boarded group one and Barbara and I boarded group two he was asleep by the time we go on his head was made against the exit like I think this is and I woke up there was German people saying you happy birthday I thought that couldn't possibly be true what was the German people what were they doing they were just talking German and saying happy birthday I should do like a flight no it was, as we were pulling away, it was like a special guest on board today. Some German kiddie, it's like called Mario,

so something, and then we saw him happy birthday, too. The whole plate. And everyone gave him a round of applause, and I just had a ride on. Who was singing Happy Birthday in German? The family, I guess, and everyone else was just clapping. So probably the same people who went to the flight attendant and said, hey, make sure you make a special announcement,

because one person in our group had a fucking birthday. What a fucking jackass. Is if I was asleep, I'd be pissed off. Yeah. Yeah, I would get to be people German, people singing happy birthday. I thought it was some kind of thing from playing too much bio-shock.

This is Germany before? Is that what they do in Germany before the day? No, they have no April. Somebody has a birthday? This whole day of April. Striding trash in the room. It's all over there. But, and then I know Gabb was upset by that,

because he hates birthdays on planes, and he made a really point- I've just said I'm being forced to give a shit about someone's birthday. Yeah. Especially somebody that I- I think I'm kind of why- What did he mean for us to give this to?

Like, that's why I don't want people to make a big deal out of my birthday at the office. It's like, I don't want people to be forced to come and eat some fucking cake because it's my goddamn birthday. You don't want these- I don't want the attention. I don't want people to be obligated to come see me a fucking song and cut some stupid ass cake. And the reason is, is if everyone's clapping and I don't want these tension. I don't want the attention. I don't want people to be obligated to come see me a fucking song

It's stupid ass cake and the reason is is everyone's clapping and I don't then I feel like I'm an asshole So I'm not clapping. No, I'm okay. I wonder if I could go back on my text messages to your birthday Hey, is there a way on the iPhone? Is there a way to download like all your text messages and just read them? I don't think so no, okay, you can just keep pressing it. I know you can load early load early load early but I'll use snapchat so I wouldn't know What if I snapchat? You said in a message your pictures and it deletes after like five seconds.

It's the sexting app, you know. Oh really? No Matt, we didn't know that. We didn't know that. We didn't know that. It's popular with all the tweens. He keeps everything on record. He does.

He's like, if you lose his iPhone phone, All of us will have pictures of his penis again. Those of us who had to receive them will be attacked for time. I don't think I've ever deleted anything. He archives everything. How many terabytes do you have? Can you get rid of your hand in the computer? Like just get rid of it so you don't ever throw anything away?

Yeah, just delete the trash. Can. I have how do you throw away a trash can? My life is going to be like 30 terabytes at this point. Across. Is that depressing or is that impressive? I'm impressed. That's not as, yeah, I have a problem. How do you throw away a trash can? My life is it's got to be like 30 terabytes at this point Across some of your life. Is that depressing or is that impressive? I'm impressed That's not as much as I would have thought you're saying all your slum most off to yeah Yeah, but that's probably like 29 out of the 30 terabytes, right? So like Yeah, I would do it you know when you get a new hard drive Yeah, and you've been struggling you've been tilling files constantly like delete files. You don't need like render files Yeah, you don't do that. Oh, I you get a new hard drive. Yeah. And you've been struggling, you've been tilting files constantly, like tilting files, you don't need like render files.

Yeah. You don't do that. Oh, I'd tilting render files. All right. Shut up. But then you start a new hard drive. Just keep it going. For a while, you don't have to worry. It's like, oh, it's a close-up. That's all you want.

But whenever I would shoot slow-mo, it films eight gigs per second, so I would just rinse through them. And there's no excitement anymore for a fresh new. Listen, I've always loved that. Like getting new hard drives is one of the best feelings ever. Like, Gus can attest to this. For all the years where I was one of the only people working on Reverse Blue like around the clock, all those years that the hard drives

are what I used to back everything up. And I'm so meticulous about data, organization, and archiving that like a day after the season ends and we ship the DVD, I go up on a handgust to drive. Like this is the entire thing. And I pull the external drives out and then put them in enclosures so I have a duplicate of each and every hard drive. And then one stays here and then I take one to my house

and case something burns down. And then someone gets one to get a file off of it and they drop it while it's on and you can't read it anymore. That Jason did that. Yeah, I was gonna say that's better than Brain End's method, which is just taking all the most important drives in the office and making a house of cards stack out of them. So they just all fall over.

It's like the final round of the Jenga game, right? It's like everything is just like teetering like that. Yeah, we moved some disks that we had moved in a long time and found like 30 archive drives that brain had just stuck under a random desk somewhere. It's like we've been looking for story food for winters. I would remember where all these drives are. We're trying to be better about that now.

Well, it's one of those things too. And then you always think when you're back and something up, I always think I'm never gonna need this. I'm never gonna require to go back to season two, episode number 24. We need to call the shot. Number five, and we need to do it all the time. All the time.

Actually, one thing we needed for a reason was the Tosh thing. When we were on Tosh, they called us up and asked for that video. And that was one of the drives that I found under that desk that had been moved. We had no idea where those archives were. And they just moved to Desk and there was a jingostack of Brandon's drives. It was in there. We talked about that before, right? How that works, because we were very happy

to participate and be featured on Tosh, but one of the things that upset me about it was the fact that they put us in the viewer section. Which is our submitted video. Viewers submitted videos, which I mean, I, you know. Which is fine. When I say we don't have that touch, but it just seemed like a weird like we were out there

entering contests we're right right we made it after 10 years we got on time we got entered for the cruise to the bomb we got it today oh there we go I guess the required to give us a check for airing our footage I think I still have the first check I ever got making money off of the internet. We, uh, Back when we were doing ugly internet we had banner ads on the website and we were part of like a banner ad network What was the network? It was Cha Cha Wow

At all and we got a check from them for like $24 We framed it Yeah, and why can't you when you can frame it? $24. Whoa. And we framed it. Yeah. Why catch it when you can frame it? I also remember the first time we ever got a check from GameStop when they started selling our DVDs or retail and Jeff lost it. Like, it was almost like with my kid. And his defense he says you lost it.

It's a fucking shithead. I would never lose a check like that. I handed a check because it was like the biggest check either of them ever seen in person and I handed it to him I take it's like he's like handing it to like a five-year-old and like handed to him turn around do a full revolution go where's the check goes oh where's the check where is it are we we hunting up and down the street looking for that check I was like all Congress right I'd call them again a reissue it was like at South Congress we were going to lunch to celebrate. You had to come in the street.

Hand him in the car. And then we get out of the car and go, I need the check back, just. I don't have it. It keeps. So it just disappeared instantaneously. My kid does that. Where do you think the check is now?

I don't want to think about it. I don't want to think about it. Somebody found it, what are we doing? You think there's like some hobo in Austin who's like, look at all the money I got. It was like, I just don't want to cash it. What are these days? Yeah, there's like some hobo in Austin who's like, look at all the money I got. I was like, I just don't want to cash it. One of these days, yeah, but my kid, we one time went to the movies and Teddy, my youngest,

who's the most irresponsible kid on the planet, he loses, he takes off his shoes and then he loses them and then he puts it on you. Like, where are my shoes? Where are my shoes? I don't know where your damn shoes are. They're your shoes, put them in the same place. So one time he had one shoe on at the end of a movie

and we hunted up and down the rows for his other goddamn shoe. And finally we found it, not down three rows, up three rows. How does that happen? I don't even know, I don't even know. So we find it, it's 15 minutes, to clean it out the theater, all that stuff,

the guys are sweeping the popcorn up and everything. And finally he's like, so I put down Thai shoe because he wasn't an old enough Thai shoe that this couple of years ago. Then we go walking, we walk three steps down, he's crying, and I turn on and go, why? He goes, I lost my shoes. He didn't really, this is not a joke.

We went 40 feet, and he didn't have his shoes anymore, he didn't know where they were. So, that reminds me of a pet peeve of mine. Is people who, at the end of the movie, just leave all of their shit there in the movie theater? I agree. They just leave their popcorn bags and their sodas and everything.

Why the fuck don't you just take it and throw it in the goddamn trash? I feel like it increases the amount of time between movies. They have to send a cleaning crew in to come up and down everywhere, pick up all your shit. Why is that an acceptable thing?

When I was a kid, my brother worked at a theater, my older brother, and me and my friends would go up there and just like he would let us come in to the theater and just watch the movies. And then at some point his manager figured out that he was letting us in to see the movies all the time like here in the summer, but he didn't get upset about it, he just made us clean all that stuff up.

Because it always like it delays the next start of the next movie, or at least they used to, it seemed like they've gotten it. And kids are so dumb, that seems like a great deal. It's a a great awesome deal. Yeah, what a five dollar movie for 20 minutes of work Yeah, it was it was really good Five hour an hour job. Yeah, that's not bad It was pretty good if I had the ability to at the end of my life find out all the stuff that was confusing during my life Like I probably want to you most people It'd be like 30 terabytes of stuff

Most people would want to know what actually happened to JFK, you know, who really shot me all that, but I think I would just use it for stuff that happened in my life just little tiny mysteries. Like what, what's a tiny mystery of For Gavin Free? Well, what happened in VidCon last year? That would be a big one. I don't need to know any of that. But there was like for example, there was a time where I was having a good time with a lady and a sex stuff. Yeah, okay, and there was a Johnny involved. Okay, and all of a sudden it was just like, and I just heard it split and then it was gone. You want to know where it went?

We were looking everywhere for it. I was looking on the ceiling fan and stuff. I think I'm putting it up. I think I'm looking in the wrong place. Yeah, and then, you know, she checked up up. It wasn't there. You'd be surprised. There's Nixon Craneys, you can't get it.

Try found it about four days later. That is a con-archological term. Wasn't there? You'd be surprised. There's Nixon crannies. You can't get a try. I found it about four days later. That is a con-conarchological term, isn't it? Nixon crannies. Yeah, well, that's the- It was not in the nooks. It might be up in the crannies somewhere. That's the master two of anatomy.

Gross anatomy. Nooks. I remember that biology 101. What are you cursing crannies? But what are the trends that like the entire thing and the ring just getting everything everything was gone about it I was like I never wore one

How does that happen? And the possibility is that I was drunk and I might not have put one on but But we look probably for like an hour that night and then like all morning the next day You don't think only appropriate way to end that though And that encounter is just at the end, which he goes I can't find it go So you would know though if you you would have a rapper left at least or the rapper Everything go at least or the rapper. No, the rest.

Did everything go. Oh, it was in the dress, right? It was what. It went up in a cloud of smoke. I think I saw this on David Copperfield. Didn't you do this trick once? Sorry, I got Claudius Shiffer. No.

That's how he locked her in. We were actually worried that it pinged out the window. That's what we're doing now. That would be the worst thing ever you walk in on this story. I remember. Hi Velocity Johnny. I like that you called it a Johnny-Sew, like, have solidarity with Gavin.

Absolutely. Hi Velocity Johnny, sounds like a bad animated series. I remember being a kid when David Copperfield started dating Claudius Shiffer. I remember thinking, magic, huh? It was like, it was like a thought like, maybe I should get into this. Yeah. Never did.

How'd that work out? No, didn't work. But going back to the 10th anniversary, so I was talking to Gavin about it today, and I thought Gavin would actually know, because he might remember what he was doing where he was when he first started watching Red vs Blue, which would have been 10 years ago.

That's what I was saying. When my grades were really good, honestly, good at school, right before I found your site, and then I would spend hours and hours every day, and my grades plummeted. So, good at school, right before I found your site and then I would spend hours and hours every day. And my grades plummeted. So I want to say thanks for hiring me. You're welcome. Nobody else will at this point.

Yeah, he made a good point. He said, if you ever get in a situation where you're on a website and your grades get demolished by the fact you're spending too much time in the website, the best case scenario is that you end up getting hired by that company. Like that's kind of the hope that it works out. I mean, it's kind of an ad with me.

I mean, I was playing video games so much and quote unquote wasting so much time. Then eventually, it's like it turned into my full career of wasting time in video games. Not even making video games. Or competitively playing video games, literally just wasting time in video games. So it all worked out just fine.

For 10 years, this is the longest job I've ever had. It still is not for me, believe it or not. Wow. I think the second longest is only three years for me. Really? Telling them about corner? 12 years? I was there. Don't forget I overlapped.

So, oh yeah, right, right. I didn't quit my day job until season three. I was actually the last person out of the... Because you were the president, wasn't you? Yeah, I was the president of that company. And I was the last person to leave my day job. Who's the first? Like Jeff was like, in the middle of that company and I was the last person to leave my day job. Who's the first? Jeff was like, immediately after the door, as soon as we took off, you were already living in Puerto Rico.

Yeah, I was already quitting and doing my parents because I was done with life at that point. Were you really? Yeah, I was like, I don't want to work anymore. See, that's what I'm saying with this sickness that you have, you've been sick now for a month. I just want to let you know, it's okay, you can let let go you can die. I was saying that to Chris earlier like I was laying there on the floor like in pain and I turned to Chris and I said what if this is it like what if this is the illness that's going to off me yeah what if like I'm dead in

a week and I was like he should have gone to the doctor yeah he should have gone to the hospital oh my god don't tease us yeah so it's true. They say that or they say glad you didn't go to the doctor yeah I mean that's more likely. Yeah. So he's drawn to dream. Would they say that? Or would they say glad he didn't go to the doctor? Yeah, I mean, that's more likely. Yeah, but really, I mean, the fact that all of us had made it for 10 years alive and everything that's statistically not bad. That's a complimented to itself. So Gus, it was great. Good run. Yeah, I was going to the light. I was talking to Kathleen the other day about our return flight to Austin. I guess we're all on the same plane. No, that's about the idea. We all have the same final decision.

And she goes, why? I was like, you know, yeah. I think it really freaked her out. I was always annoyed when I was on set with the guy he's to work with because he wouldn't let us eat the same meal just in case one of us got sick. And I was like, we're not the president. We're not the president and vice president here. If we both full ill, then so what, I don't care. We even know exactly Nobel Prize.

He'd be like, what do you want? I was ironing up the chicken. He's like, I was gonna have that. We got flipped for it. So he wouldn't even let you get it since even if you wanted it. He would, yeah. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Why would he ask the question then, just so he could cut you off? I don't know. So what was USW on the same plane and he would do this or? No, just like if we were on set in England Yeah, and we wouldn't get the same lunch just in case we got food poisoning and one of us would have to take over from the other. If you get food poisoning it's just like 30 minutes of pain. Right, you just go to the bathroom, you don't know up and that's it. You're done.

I also, you know, whatever, so, someone else if we both get sick. Yeah. So, you're a co-worker who was concerned about it. He was the guy who owned the company though, right? Yeah, he owned the company. The company was only two people. Oh, okay. Yeah, so, of course, you don't care.

Were you actually part of the company? I was freelance. I worked with that company. I didn't own any of it and I was self-employed. You know, it's a thing that's been different about Ruchis over 10 10 years too, is that, like as a production company, we've been really different in that we actually just,

we hire people, like, even in terms of most production companies, everyone is freelance, you get paid while you're working, and then everyone goes off and finds new gigs. And then the challenge there is, how do you keep people available essentially to like work with the same people who you know are good at what they do? Don't a lot of production companies also just form for specific projects and then dissolve?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, like for instance, Rochis would be like a production company, but then the way the model usually works is they would start red versus blue incorporated, they would run red versus blue out of that, and then when red versus blue wraps up, they just like dissolve the entire company. Keeps it all encapsulated, in a way, makes sense. Yeah. Then they can always say that company.

Liveability. That company never made any moneyulated and make sense. Then they can always say that company. Liability. That company never made, never made any money. That's right. For starters. Yeah. Who is it that never got paid for Star Wars? Peter Mayhew. Peter Mayhew.

Never. They said Star Wars is a tender profit. They showed on paper that it hasn't turned a profit. So they just screwed him. Yeah. They have like $4 billion of expenses for that sale to Disney. Well, death stars are expensive to build. Oh, yeah.

We're gonna have to pay the lawyers. So what does the deal though? I mean, is the kind of the unspoken fact there that Peter Meiju has profit participation in Star Wars for playing Chubaka? Maybe they didn't have any money to pay him so they offered him compensation on the back end. Do you know that it was George Lucas,

Francis Ford Coppola, and if somebody else here knows who they can tell me, it might have been Peter Bagnonovich, or Spielberg maybe. At the time, the only young directors, they would trade points to each other in their movies. Like it's like some kind of like weird like, solidarity thing.

What does that mean, trade points? Like they would say, Francis Ford Coppola would say, and make it this movie called Godfather. like solidarity thing. What does that mean, trade points? Like they would say, like, Francis Ford Coppola would say, and make it this movie called Godfather. And I'm gonna give you one percent of the money that I'm getting from it. Like, like, exactly this.

And that they had a share of Star Wars and Lucas asked for it back after it got to a certain level of success. And he asked for that money back. It's a- Is that real? Like, is that like a fact? Well, there's a book that I read called uh, Easy Riders and Easy Riders Region Bulls, which is about that time and about those

directors. It's pretty interesting, but every much everyone who's associated with that scene at that time said this is all not true. It's all bullshit certain by some guy around there. But apparently this was part of it. They said to the, yeah, they just traded points with each other on their movies. Yeah. What would they do that? I don't know. I don't know because they work together like friends before Copeland Lucas worked together pretty closely and Lucas and Spielberg get Indiana Jones right? Yeah, yeah They were trying to build this kind of like amway system into their movie making Yes, exactly what they were doing. I don't know is amway even still around You know, there was a there was another like pyramid scheme. I was just reading about the other day that was like No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, you know, the town we're in now,

uh, Brazleton. Supposedly was owned by Kim Basinger, the, you know, the, you know, the movie star, but she's from this town and she bought like some percentage of it or something. I don't really. Yeah.

Like, I don't really know how that works, but apparently she's like, she owned a lot of it. I don't know if that means like, Alec Baldwin got half of it at some point. That's really bizarre. I know at one point years ago, we talked about buying a town like somewhere in, it was somewhere like South Central Texas.

And I think this was like, oh, five or oh six. And they were selling the town for like super cheap. And we said, well, how cheap is super cheap for town? Well considering it's a town right with all the buildings. I think I want to say it was like $30,000 yeah Yeah, we also we could all chip in and own the town and like relocate Rooster Chief there at some point during the recession We could about Detroit I think yeah, I think so. It was up for sale We could have bought some of the parks that they they bulldoze yeah

But yeah, I don't know what happened to town. So I'm assuming someone else bought it. But there's another town also in central Texas that got bought by the, there's a restaurant chain in central Texas called Bikinis. And the guy who owns Bikinis bought a town in central Texas and renamed it Bikinis. Oh my god, you're serious? Yeah. Do you know how where he got all that money?

Where? Jack and Joel. They go to that freaking restaurant every single day. Yeah. Especially when we worked downtown, there was bikinis on Sixth Street. And it was like, 11, 15, was go to bikinis. Like, not every single day. There was never a time when they,

and most of the time they wouldn't eat lunch. Yeah, I went there with them a few times. I made it. I made it. Just sweet lunch, but I don't know. I can't look at Jack, look at a girl for too long because I get the chills Yeah, he's there. It's unfortunate that Jack is drilling before the food comes because he'll be iron up a girl I'll be like, but then he'll like look at her for too long and then be like

Like stop making really pervy noises. Yeah Does he really vocalize like that? Sometimes. Especially when watching videos. Any key up to anything. That's really funny. I guess we should plug that. If anybody has questions for us on Twitter, they can tweet with hashtag RTpodcast.

And we'll take a look at that later in the podcast. And maybe answer some of your questions. That's hashtag RTpodcast for Rooster Teeth Podcast. Did you ever get to Twin Peaks? I've been to Twin Peaks. And that place, you can have one of the hot. These are all, by the way, these are all restaurants like Hooters, where it's like Scannelly Cloud.

So, so, did they do the thing where they come and sit with you and talk to you if you're on your own? Yeah. Weird, I don't know that. Why are we asking about 20 peaks? Because it's the first time I've seen that. Well, lonely dudes would come in and have some really figuring out. There's actually a lot of restaurants like that in Austin. There's a ton. Bequinis.

What's the... There's also bone daddy. Bone deaths when I was talking about those two. That's one of the 25-year-old people. Bone daddy. Yeah, it's a barbecue place. It's like a fish daddy's too, right? There's also fish daddy, but it's totally totally different experience. Oh, is it really?

Yeah, I thought it was like the seafood variant of the bone daddy's. No, no, which is a ribs place. One time Jason and I What the hell conversation that I walked back into by the way? What time Jason and I went to bone daddies. This was got probably like eight or nine years ago. Why isn't there sugar daddy's and You did that to the list and we got seated by this waitress. We thought was was really cute and We're probably making eye comments behind her back and the host just takes us to our table and she's like what do you all want to drink? It's like oh I'll have a dosaicies and Jason said I'll have the same. She goes okay well I'll go get your waitress because I'm under 18 so I can't carry liquor. We're both like geez.

That happened to Brandon and Chris while they were here. They were having a Brandon and Chris over here. They were hitting on a bunch of like 16 year old waitresses. Brandon's doing the don't talk about this. I just told my story. I just told my story. As soon as Brandon and Chris got here, they went out looking for a place to hang out in Atlanta and they had no idea where to go. And I don't know, how did you guys figure out where to go?

Brandon is a friend on Facebook. A for known Facebook said go to Magic City Which is apparently an all black strip club or like the clientele and the you know the strippers are like 99% black so they went there. They're the only two white guys there and they felt very awkward apparently Brands of white guy the manager. Yeah, Bob Chris electives Her brain is a white guy. The manager bought Chris electives. This is a lot more. Chris about his whiteies he gets too. Honestly.

I think they all thought that Brandon was Mexican. I think someone asked Brandon if he was Hispanic. Actually, he was an option for all of us to take a pen to Chris. He said it was an option for him to try to take advantage of Chris. Chris is shaking his head by one weight over there. So I can't believe that some of these guys have been here on location for a long time now. Yeah coming up on a week. Yeah too long. Yeah and I can't imagine what you guys have been doing all this time. Like why do you keep, I don't know why they have to come up. Why do you think I have to come up? Magic City had a long line. They

had to get in there and queue up. We came out, we were just doing a bunch of stuff, and we were actually looking for a place to have the podcast for a while. Oh, right. Because we weren't sure that there was gonna be a place at the track where we could do it. So the funny thing was, we had two other locations,

or three other locations lined up. But they were all outdoor locations. And the weather forecast for today was rain. Yeah. And as you can tell, there's a giant thunderstorm outside right now. I was trying to, we were actually, we were talking about doing something that related to walking dead since we're in Atlanta. And we thought that would be cool. And I, my mom and my sister live here. And I told them, I, you know, we're looking for like a walking dead location. And my mom said, Oh, well, I can have you with that. I know one of the actors on walking dead.

I thought, oh, that's cool. She never mentioned that before. Who's that? Who do you know? He goes, oh, he's a really good actor. He plays one of the mummies. Okay. And I said, I said, I said, I said, I said,

I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, when they go back to Egypt. I said, mom, you know, they're not mummies. She goes, vampires, whatever. So, I would have been to say, my family's connected. We've got, you know, zombie 43. We know, we know mummy 42, but. So, yeah, we had a, yeah.

Have you even watched Walking Dead, by the way? I have not. How about you? No, I've got question. Never mind. Season finale was last night, or think of the season three finale. And then the premiere of Game of Thrones was last night. I watched. So you up to date on Game of Thrones?

Yes. Okay. In our hotel, we have HBO, but we have to watch it, pillar boxed, and letter boxed. I heard that. So they have these great, like for our hotel, it's awesome, like these 40 inch TVs, but we had to watch it on a probably display that was just like 20 inches. And that means just a bunch of black around them. Yeah, yeah, so it was like watching a smaller TV in your bigger TV.

This is gonna sound like the joke I was making during our PAXE's panel about your travel problems versus my travel problems. But last night we tried to watch Game of Thrones at my new house, and I have the projector and the screen leftover of my old media room, which I don't have room for in my new house. And so I set up this outdoor projection environment. So we hung the screen on the side of the building, the side of the garage, which is beside the house. And then we set up the projector and all this stuff.

Had it all good to go, Gus, this is fucking infuriating me. I tested it with my PS3. I had two major technology problems this week. One is, I plugged in my PS3 to watch the Hobbit Blu-ray. So my PS3 had not come out of the box to go in my new house. So it wasn't on the internet in any way, shape, or form. Wasn't even on the wireless in that house.

Put in the Blu-ray, it says, you must update your system settings to get a new encryption key to play this Blu-ray. Oh, yes. What is that? So does every Blu-ray player have to be on blue ray. Oh, yes. What is that? So does every Blu-ray player have to be on the net? I believe so. Really? Yeah, well, it's built into the Blu-ray spec,

or the Blu-ray player spec, is internet connectivity. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, why would you buy offline media? Yes, the like that. Right, exactly. They're killing themselves. If you want to go in a car trip or something with your kids and give them up

You know a blue raid. It's like you don't want to have to connect to the internet in the middle of You know to Pico where I hope it's gonna be transparent. I'm sure yeah, yeah I'm sure they think it's gonna be at home I'm gonna take people but we struggle with this kind of thing imagine a regular just Personally doesn't know anything. Oh, we always say how does the average person set up a wireless network? It's no I still get calls from my mother a couple times a year. And when I get the call, it's like, what's my wireless? I'm like, oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, no.

I would tell another family story, since they're all here in Atlanta. But we hit 4 million subs on YouTube. Yeah, today. Yeah. And my mother-in-law really wanted to subscribe to us on YouTube before we hit four million. She wanted to be part of the four million and it took us six hours. Really? To subscribe? To subscribe. To subscribe. On YouTube. Wow. It was worth the

dub because that's the one that put us over the top. So everyone on Twitter is asking me about what is the location. We'll get to that in just one second. We actually talked about it at the beginning of the live stream. Pull tight. We'll talk to you about it in just one moment. Do people see the cars going by? I think they do. There's some people saying that they want

to see a crash that Gavin screams. I think that's really demented. Do you want to see if you get hurt? Let's fuck it up. You want to see Gavin's screen? Just watch this. fuck it up. You want to see this game? Just watch this. Take it easy.

The other thing that happened to me this week was after I updated my PS3 in order to play just a blue rate, just to play the Hobbit, which took by the way 45 minutes to watch a 2.5 hour movie. What? It takes forever to update a PS3. You haven't done it a long time. I put you in the movie in 45 minutes. No, it took 45 minutes to update the PS3 to watch it. I know the frame rate was high.

I think that's probably the game I've played the most on my PS3. The hobby is updating the game. You know, it probably is for me too. I mean, I played Journey, and I played Uncharted 2. I played all the Uncharted games. Yeah. But I spent more, I feel like I spent more time updating

my PS3 that I did actually playing on the damn thing. Hopefully they'll make that better in the PS4, they have to. Supposedly, they talked about that in their reveal. I'm also hoping that on the new Xbox, whatever that thing is announced, it's the worst kept secret probably in the world, that Xbox is going to have a new version soon as well. I hope they have a way to like auto sync like all your DLC. They're going to be great. When I go to new box. I go I'm gonna play boardlands

Just get all the DLCems was to have for this or whatever. So I had a bit of a problem You know we're here on location. I haven't finished my fucking fit yet So I brought it with me and I brought my gamer tag. Yeah, I Plugged them into a new Xbox on the internet But to sign in I had to authenticate that it was really me, so I had to get a text message with authentication code. That's a new thing. I applied it, then it said I needed to add a new email address to be authenticated, so I had to add it, then I had to wait for an authentication email, and put another code, then I had to go through and sign in. I think I waited 40 minutes for all of this before I could even start playing.

That happened to me when they just introduced that service, I got hit by that, and also, it was getting so much traffic that it wasn't working and wasn't sending out the text code to the phone. Yeah, it took forever. Yeah. So that was a pain in the ass. That needs to be better. Mine is even more busted than that. And when it asked me to do all that stuff, it sent the text to my UK phone, which the

number is no longer new so I didn't use it anymore. And I texted you with my thing all the time. When you go over there? That's the iMessage there. It's not actually this my email address,'t I see okay, but anyway, so that I can't get the code They send me so to delete that and then add my American number takes two months. Yeah, they say They say we'll delete this in like May so I have to wait now until we didn't the EA guy resign because the Sims Sign up process of all that

you were signed around that so bad I don't know if I resigned specifically because of that really Matt do you like do you have like visibility on that like I mean do you know what that problem is with that thing with the Sims yeah and you're gonna also do you like did you like get the inside information from the COEA you like do the handshake yeah we're on LinkedIn together man it's like all other people know this all CEOs have a secret handshake. One degree of a secret club. It's like the five-time-risk club at Sarah Live.

We all go to some place like that. We have bathrooms. Yeah, sounds nice. You'll put your kids in a bowl. So the final part of my round would always was, everybody wants the Yahoo CEO. Recording Game of Thrones on my DVR, then we had to go outside with it, so over wait wants the auto CDR. Recording Game of Thrones on my DVR.

We're gonna, then we have to go outside with it. So, over a way to finish this recording, I'm just gonna take my DVR outside and play it on the projector outside and project it. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be fun. We cooked meats, head cheeses, and it was perfect Game of Thrones night and all that stuff.

Cheese. X, cheeses, we used to. It was Easter. Floural cheese. So, we do all that. The Goddamn DVR checks to make sure that it's got a coax cable connected to it, and then it can get on the network.

To play a pre-recorded show on it. Really? So we couldn't do it. I have to get like a 70 foot coax cable to do that. Or I can just torrent the Goddamn thing. Right. You don't own the recording, do you?

Like it's not yours. You're just borrowing the recording. I don't care. Can I borrow it to my backyard? Can I borrow it? You have 25 feet away. You have HBL. I heard HBL go, went down for several hours last night. Well, we shouldn't laugh about that.

I think our site just went down from the traffic to the live stream. I think I did. I was getting text messages. That's why I have my phone here. I was getting text messages from Adam, like Jesus Christ. Told on, fight. He's like, I'm getting alerts from him. Yeah, so we need to go HBO.

Amateur hour. So do you think this weekend was the most HBO subscriptions in history? I'm getting alerts from him. Yeah, so we need to go HBO. Amateur hour. So do you think this weekend was the most HBO subscriptions in history? I got cable again for the first time in I think five years, simply because I wanted HBO to be able to do it. We did the same thing he got HBO last night. I canceled my cable when the writer strike happened. And I've not had cable since then.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, that's like solidarity. You know what the biggest show of solidarity? Solidarity, that's right, content creators. You know what, the biggest show of solidarity that I've ever seen, like commitment to a cause. Do you remember we used to make fun of people for changing their avatars?

This just originally went through with the marriage equality thing. Oh, that was a big thing. People think changing their avatar is changing the world and it's not, or liking a photo is gonna do something. It doesn't do shit. You know, it's like false activism. Do you remember how we had that conversation?

What started that conversation? Was it about the uprising in Iran? You nailed it. In Baranian democracy and everyone on Twitter was changing their avatar's green. Yeah. Jonathan Colton still has a green avatar to this day. Stuck with it.

He did. I think it's like three and a half years later, four years later. Do you think he's the only person left with a green avatar? I'm amazed. There was a couple of people I knew they had it for a while, like three or four months. He's going on like three or four years. We talked about it. It's like, when do you make that decision to undo the avatar change?

That's the problem with that. It's like, at what point you go like, okay, I'm not so much in a marriage equality anymore. So now I'm going to go back to me at the bar with my butts, you know? It's like, you have to make that choice of like, this issue is not resolved, now I'm going to go back to me at the bar with my butts, you know. It's like you have to make that choice of like this issue is not resolved but I'm kind of over the whole like getting upset about it. It's not popular anymore. Exactly. I don't ever want to go through that lame moment so I'll just support things the way they should be supported on the front end. Yeah. Like wasn't it Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie who said they were never going to get married as long as a gear marriage was

not legal or not legal in the US. Yeah. they say that? Yeah, did they get married? I don't think they are married I don't know we're not anybody want to fill us in as well That's not the end. It was kind of pretty gossip I'm gonna have to find a cast right now. Okay, let's talk about where we are Let's talk about where we are. We're at a racetrack at a racetrack There's there's the cars are not as loud, I keep seeing like strings of porches drive by yeah What was this car was going my earlier today? They're portions the ones that were painted all crazy colors. Yeah, yeah, they were portions. You know race cars

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we're at a racetrack in Southeast Georgia Yeah, because we are filming Northeast Georgia. Oh, Northeast Georgia. Sorry Southeast part of the country Where to racetrack in Georgia? We are filming our first episode of immersion that we've filmed in two years at this point. We've been two years? No, it has. It really has. It really has.

So in addition to doing more shorts, which we're really excited about, we're also starting to shoot new immersions. Now, this is not season one, and this is not season two. This is an opportunity we had to do something really cool. So this is a between seasons episode of immersion, but we're going to start filming more emergence this summer, probably right after we wrap up production on day five. That's right. And then get Ruby and RBBC's 11 up on their feet and run it. So yeah, which will both be summer series. So yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, stuff. This is, this is, I'm really excited about this immersion. You know, we've been filming all morning over, down the way. And I think it's, it's easily our highest production value. It is. Like, highest quality immersion that we've done so far. Well, because we're on location this time, we had to hire outside crew. And we've had, we're actually really good-looking,

that we've had good-looking look at that. We've had good look at that this time as well. Everybody who's come in has done a lot of cool projects before and we had a great shoot this morning. So I'm really excited about how the food just turned out. Yeah. Yeah, it's a yeah, I was seeing some of the stuff. We had some, like, those gold pros that were mounted. Yeah. And then we were watching some of the footage here before we start on the podcast and it looks great. Yeah. That's one of the things that's that's fun. And we were watching some of the footage here before we start on the podcast. And it looks great. Yeah, that's one of the things that's fun is when we have

some more resources. Like we have two GoPros, and the people are working with that three. So some of we have five GoPros. So we're like getting every crazy angle we ever wanted to get because we have the opportunity to do it. Yeah, absolutely. Which by the way, the GoPros are amazing.

Have you ruined one yet? No, we have not. Not a good shoot unless you trash a GoPro. So one of the guys on this shoot told us a great story about they he was shooting a race car. Should we try GoPro's? Tiny little camera. So tiny little camera that you can mount anywhere.

And they use a lot in action extreme sports photography. Helmet cams. Helmet cams, if you see that. Motorcycle cams, All that kind of thing. So they're great on cars, and just in all kinds of different, you know, tight places where you need to put something. And maybe if you have a Johnny, that's about to export. You want your GoPro for that.

But one of the guys was telling us a story about how he was shooting a race, and there was a car that went off the track and caught on fire and had a GoPro on it. And I guess the GoPro fell off but it was around all the fire and the entire car burned up a thousand degree fire or whatever but the GoPro survived and they got the footage over there. Oh no way. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, that's like a great GoPro commercial

Yeah, that's crazy. I don't believe that People on Twitter keep asking if Gavin Zipper is down. It is not his zippers fine. Yeah, it's just Exposed the first it doesn't cover the zip so yeah, this is a GoPro for example the tiny little camera That's actually the newer one, right? Yeah, I have the first one. That one actually you can control from an iPhone. So like you can set it up somewhere like on a train track for instance, you go under the train, and then when the train's coming you just

poop from your iPhone and just all, we should charge them for this. I would say, the only thing I don't like, that's the gadget stuff. Let me see. The only thing I don't like about GoProPros is, like, on set, that if you're acting in something, you end up also being a cameraman. Like, we just, Joel and I just did a short that was really intense, like we shot for four or five days non-stop. And half the time we were doing stuff, Joel and I had the GoPros and we were being our

own cameraman doing stuff. And I think what to go pros, and we were being our own camera men doing stuff. And I think what we finished one take in brain it was napping. So that's not right. Well it's like when we filmed the roller coaster short, where I was on the roller coaster. I was sitting ahead of Flip at the time, because go first and exist.

And I had to flip in front of me on roller coasters, like trying to deliver lines and film myself. And Joel, if you want to go back and watch that short, Joel has the script. Yeah, he's holding the script on the roller coaster. How many times did you write it? We wrote Thunder Mountain three times, and we wrote Splash Mountain one time.

And then we went on the merry-go-round like four times. So that short one, you didn't have to go to the merry-go-round. That was personal, it was like a wee. When you and Joel were running around and you have a screwdriver in your head at one point for one of the shows. I see it. And I know, actually, Jess Kidd filmed that.

Yeah, what was that shot with then? That was a shot with a cannon. And actually, that was amazing because Jess Kidd, on the site, he is not only a great cinematographer, but he also was like a great cinematographer, but he also was like a karate champ. And he's very athletic. And we were running, Joel and I were running forwards

as fast as we could. He ran backwards. Oh, he had no one pulling him, right? No, he was literally running backwards, holding, I can't remember what even a steady came, he was just holding the camera on his own, making it steady, and could run backwards as fast as Joel and I could run forwards.

That's crazy. Yeah. Of course, Joel and I are really in a shape. But the speed at the footage, too. It was still impressive. It was still impressive. What's this? So I see someone, Dragonpool 1 is asking about the fate of the beer I brewed at the podcast

set. Everyone was complaining about it last week, by the way. Does it work? Yeah, you're on the podcast last week. By the way, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you. We miss you. I don't like when you're on the podcast last week. By the way, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you. We miss you. I don't like when you're not on the podcast.

It's like, yeah, it's just, you know, you need to be on it every week. I do my best. 96% of the time. How many of you miss do you think over the course of three days that we've been doing? On the spreadsheet, I think I'm up to like 96% of the time. You keep a spreadsheet of that.

No, no, no, it's on the subreddit. Oh, okay. So if I bent a nice comment here at 200, so I missed like 10 maybe. You know what, I ventured back into that subreddit like this week, and I wrote you about it. I said, I just, it's like I feel now the only purpose to go in there is to correct people who are misquoting me.

There are so many things wrong in there. Yeah, I'm just saying, it's so weird to say one thing. We talked about it after the tour thing. How we said the tour thing, and then it put tours in the conversation here, I am doing it again. But like there was one thing in particular that somebody was talking about with Ruby where I said we're not going to be producing or doing

anything with River's Lucies 11 because we all focus on Ruby. It's not at all what I said during that facts panel. In any way, I just said that we're doing a lot of pre-promotion for Ruby and therefore I'm not going to do a lot of pre-promotion for Reverse, Blue, Season 11. Just because it'll come out when it comes out otherwise our whole strike turns into coming soon, coming soon, coming soon, coming soon.

You did say you wouldn't hear about it until the day it comes out. That's what I said. That's what the exact quote I think. Yeah, that's a clear statement, right? That you probably won't hear anything about Reverse, Blue, Season about it until the date comes out. That's what I said. That's what the exact quote I think. Yeah, that's a clear statement, right? That you probably won't hear anything about Reversaloo season 11 until the day it comes out. And I said today that it'll be a summer series, you know. But you were not doing it?

What's that? So we're not doing it. So we're not doing it. I'm sorry. I didn't want to make a joke, but I thought, what doesn't matter? What? I thought I shouldn't make a joke, but it really doesn't matter. Because it's going to, whatever you say right now,

it's going to be misinterpreted. I mean, that was the point of the first one, right? That was the point of the, we're telling this. No matter how you say it, it gets doesn't matter. Because it's going to, whatever you say right now, it's going to be misinterpreted. I mean, that was the point of the first one, right? That was the point of the, we're telling this. No matter how you say it, it gets misinterpreted. Like the tours thing, you said we can't do tours. And they said, oh, now they're doing tours. Right. Was the response on right?

Or the other one is that if you go to get a tour at the office, Bernie's going to get mad. When all I said during that whole thing was, we don't, we hate turning people away. No, yeah, that hate is like, we feel bad. Yeah, we feel terrible, you know, because people come and they're like, oh, we drove from Maine. It's like, oh shit. Well, here's what we can show you. We can show you the lobby.

Yeah, we had a family come down from Ottawa this past week. And I felt really bad. They came down. Like they even like took the bus from their hotel. Oh, my God. I can't show you anything. I was like, this is the lobby. I'll talk to you for a bit. They pulled the Wiener Barbara card. Barbara's not here. I'm going to share your head violently.

Apparently the kids go to the same school she did back where she was growing up. Oh really? Yeah. So I showed them the lobby and that was about it. I'm going to turn this on. I'm going to throw it to you. All right.

Ready? Is it? I'm recording on this. I hope that's okay. Look at that. Fucking solid grip. Did you? Yeah. All right, I'm gonna see if I can upload that here. Well, can I upload or am I gonna kill our bandwidth? You're probably gonna kill our bandwidth.

Yeah, you can do this. How's our site doing? I don't know, I'm not gonna get any more messages from Adam, so I assume it's on fire. You know, Adam can eat a ghost chili. I broke his sweat. Yeah. But I got a feeling sweating right now.

Yeah, I think so. Do you think about the size? I think the site is so much better. I think no offense to anybody else here who was first chief. Adam is one of the best hires we've ever had. Because when I, yeah, I think you replaced you. Yeah, he was your job. But I used to run the website.

It didn't work for shit. No. It's terrible. The first six months he was hired, he would come to me and be like, why was this like this? I'd be like, oh, because I didn first six months he was hired, he would come to me and be like, why was this like this? I'd be like, oh, because I didn't know what I was doing. I tried to piece things together, be like,

this is gonna take me a year to fix. I'm like, yeah, sorry. Can I, can I, I mean since we're talking about this now, I have a bone to pick with you about part of the website. Pick one. One of my absolute favorite parts of the site. Pick my bone. Get your kid ready to have your bone pink.

So on theachievementhunter.com site, and achievement hunter, I think most people consume achievement hunter if you want to use that word on YouTube, and not necessarily on our site. They travel on YouTube for as much higher than time. Oh, they should come to our site. I don't agree. I don't agree.

Cool stuff from achievement hunter. And because there's a lot of features on achievement hunter, I think a lot of people are aware of. One of my favorites that I use all the time is the achievement checklist for game. And I just recently started a bio-shock infinite race. We're racing through all the achievements with jinx, with Ashley.

And so I was using that to track the stuff and also get tips on how to get some of these things. But the checks aren't working. They're not working. They're not? And that's my favorite part of the stuff that particular site. Please fix that. No one told me it's not working. I had no idea that it wasn't working. They're not working. And that's like my favorite part of the stuff that particular site, please fix that. No one told me it's right now.

I had no idea that it wasn't working. I had no idea. I didn't know. I mean the check marks will check and they'll stay, but they don't stay from one session next the way they used to. Also the online bug reporting is not working. What?

What the security? Well, this is the way our bug reporting works and we're sheeted. There's a lot of time somebody walks into somebody else's office and goes, what the fuck is this? What's going on with this? What is this busted? Sounds like Adam's problem.

Sounds like a baby. Or a holly problem now. Yeah. So is holly the person who take that too? No Adam, because he dictates holly's schedule for bug fixes. Oh wow. That's a lot of authority. Yeah. She's essentially at this point rewriting the website. Yeah. Yeah. She's like she's essentially at this point rewriting the website. Again. Yeah, we're going from like a web site.

A couple of ways there. She's rewriting it on the back end, not changing like the look and feel. No, no, it's the same look. It's just right now our website uses tables. So she's rewriting it in CSS so that it scales better if you're on a phone or a tablet. So it'll look exactly the same. Just like the architecture that delivers the site will scale better for different resolutions and different devices. It should be faster and let us put in like those modules and I haven't break the sign. Right.

It'll be, it'll be, it's a really daunting project. So that's her big thing right now. OK. Could you close that as knowing another language? Is that your way of saying that it's not going to my request? It's not going to be processed. Your request will be processed in time. Is he still a charge of this man?

What is your fuckin' structure now? No, I'm a senior technical advisor. That's right. That sounds like bullshit. Oh yeah. I blame his creative director. I provide road maps and for technical decisions. But Adam is the director of technology. No fence

You got to give me at least one or two years with a bullshit title before you get a bullshit title. I have a bullshit titles That's only fair. I have tons of bullshit titles. Nope. You know our favorite one what hand of Zeno You're gonna be dead in a month anyway. I'm gonna be dead in a fucking week. What do you have? Do you think? I think I have pneumonia. I really do. Oh, Jesus really? Would you be annoyed if you died? Obviously, I'd be fucking dead. Yeah, but would you, no, I get what you say. So you were gonna die this week and you knew it.

Would you be a bit minced off or would you be alright with it? I mean, minced off, I spent my last fucking week in Georgia. No fans. I'm taking. I'd rather be back in Austin. Hey, somebody give me a cable, something. I just use the term minced off. We're not, we're not a dragon, Conn.

I think the last time I was in Atlanta was, I think in 2005, with Matt at Dragon Con. Yeah, that was... I think if you died in Georgia, you could be mummy 45. Your career could take a step up. Or a vampire. Whatever. That's the same event where I saw it, Tricia Helfer. Tricia Helfer, and we hung out with the Chaps for a little bit.

Yeah. Oh, and then we went out. And then we went out. And we had a Hamdog. We had a Hamdog with the dudes from animation master. Animation master. Yeah. Those were good dudes.

Yeah. They had a bunch of funny stories. So what you got to spend with the Hamdog is? So the Hamdog, I don't think it exists in the Hamdog. It was called Mulligan. Right, and they're closed. They're closed. They're closed, but they, I think they reopen for a short time as a different place in East Atlanta.

Just so fucking ham dog is. I'm getting to it on my speed. You're in the South, you got to take a slope. You got to talk to your boss like that. So, you guys need to see Yo Han Shake, that's right. I got the bathroom. I really, I apologize. So, the ham dog was this amazing conction

along with a Luther burger, which we'll also explain that was sort of the hot dog. You kind of coat it or cement it in ground beef, right? You deep fry it. Then you put that in some kind of weird bun, and then you cover that with chili, cheese, and nougat, I think, is the last one. No, there's no nougat on there.

There's no nougat on there. I wanted to take it up a notch. I wanted to take it up a notch, I'm sorry. No, but everything except for the nougat. Everything except the nougat's right. And then you go straight to the hospital. It's a ridiculous. It sounded ridiculous when we first heard about it's one of those you actually

have to try yeah it's like there's like 40 different shots and all here's the kind of thing well here's the thing the other thing that that was a big big uh... meal there was the Luther burger right which now you can get in Austin that gourdos it's not called the Luther burger but it's the same basic thing which is it's a hamburger instead of buns yet donuts but this is crispy cream yeah here but the gordos makes their own donuts they have fresh donuts

we get here i just spit all of that i just spit all over this you're spying me because from so glad i have you yeah i'm sorry oh my god you're gonna be a moment.

Well, go time. So, we just want to explain why we're here. This was actually the third choice from where to from. From Ray's track. Yeah. This podcast. Yeah, Ray's track.

We should mention our initial choice. Go for it. Yeah. We initially wanted to do it at Chateau-Elawn, which was where the grape stomping lady, the video happened. Oh, oh, oh. She's literally the only person I've ever seen

was able to disappear from the internet. great stomping lady. Oh, oh, oh, oh. She's literally the only person I've ever seen was able to disappear from the internet. After she stopped those grapes and fell on her face. They had a big event today. The whole place was running out. We couldn't do it there. So our first backup plan was the place that they film as the city of Woodbury in the Walking Dead.

Right. Because we were going to be in Atlanta for sure. So we tried to find a land to cool space. But there were some logistic issues with like being an outdoor shoot and like that crazy. So then our backup to that was the Cobb Energy Center, which was the CDC at the end of season one of Walking Dead. But the weather forecast for today, all we can long said it was definitely going to rain all day today.

It was definitely going to rain. So we couldn't do an outdoor podcast. So we had to fall back to this indoor location at the racetrack. And of course, it has not rained a fucking drop all day today. Yeah. It's dry as a bone. I was going to get a, um, an eye patch. No, I was going to get an eye patch because I keep seeing in the comments that I looked like the governor. Oh, yeah, people. I'm going to do look like the governor, but there get an eye patch because I keep seeing in the comments that I look like the governor.

Oh yeah, people keep saying that. I don't think I do. I don't think I do. Looks like the governor, but there's my eye patch. My temporary eye patch. How's that? Do I look like him? I do.

No, not at all. Not even at least, Pid. But also, the woodberry thing, too, like people showed me pictures of the location. We were going to have to go back to Atlanta and then go 40 miles in the other side of Atlanta. Yeah. Because we're outside of Atlanta right now. And when they showed me the photos, I was like, guys, this just looks like a small town. I mean, we could literally shoot this anywhere and say it was the set of what you walk in dead. Although the Cobb Energy Center thing, that's the thing.

It was a cool look at the cool. Yeah, no, it's really cool. That's very cool. I felt bad. We had to cancel on today. Yeah. Because they were closed on Friday and then it was over the way they're surprisingly we're closed on Easter. Yeah, and So we canceled them last minute. Yeah, I really wanted to film it out there because it was such a cool location, but Oh, well, hopefully they forgive us. Well, this is the the issues you run into with location shooting. Mm-hmm This got to be prepared for anything. Yeah, I tried to save you now that we feed us filled with how much you do look like the guy

Yeah, so that's save you. Now that we feed his field with how much you do look like the governor. So that's on you for fucking evidence. I know. You're about to the day you die. Who's the guy I looked like before the governor? Who's the last pirate I looked like? What? I don't know.

He is an iPatch. How much of this thing is a drain? It's just an iPatch. You're a pirate if you have an iPatch. All pirates have iPatches. That's what you're saying. Speaking of pirates. I know it's in the preview for the next episode of Game of Thrones,

Mackenzie Krueck is in it who played Gareth from the office. I didn't have to see the preview for the next episode. So, last night, you know, before the new season premiere of Game of Thrones, they were playing the previous season finale. They played the season two finale. We finished it, Brandon and Chris came to my room and we were watching it. We watched the finale, the credits go through,

and then HBO does its commercial, and they do. Coming up next, the best exotic, merry gold hotel. And we're like, what? Is that what we're flipping through all the channels and then I go back to HBO? And then, yeah, sure enough, the next thing is Game of Thrones. I don't know why they did that. Judy Dent was trying to get in there. We're just trolling Judy Dench was in the trailer Like in the little promo they showed and we were really freaked out like scrolling through all the different HBO channels

So do you do you have a Netflix subscription? Yeah, did you watch house of cards? No everyone says I should watch that I liked it. I thought it was great But I hear that it am some kind of a cliffhanger and that it's giving you another season. What made you watch that? Did you see the cards? Did you see it as a Netflix exclusive? Everyone talks about how great it is. Well, everyone talks about how great it is,

but I have to admit, I read a thing about how Netflix decided how to do it, which was they just used data. It was like people like this show, if we remade it, because the UK British show, right? Oh, it is. And so if we remade it, because of UK British show, right? Oh, this one. Yeah, and so if we remade it, Americans probably like it, and people watch a lot of David Fincher on Netflix, and people watch a lot of Kevin Spacey on Netflix,

and I thought, well, I like all that too, you know? Yeah. Well, they're probably would like that. They're very data and analytics driven company. Yeah. So it makes sense that they would analyze the data to figure out what it is that people want to watch. Yeah, it works.

But that's kind of scary. Like, are people that predictable? Are people that formulaic? Well, there was that company, I think, was Relativity Media. They had, like, when they first started out, they had a string of huge blockbuster hits. And supposedly, the guy behind that

had come up with some kind of algorithm for, I know exactly what it takes to make a Huge box office hit movie and it's it's just data points real on So I guess yes where that so that unpredictable it becomes like a mathematical Equation that is a peatable like we figured out for the podcast. We need one quarter British and one quarter Mexican So it's perfect. It's been working out perfectly. And two to three stories about Giz.

It's all right. You talked about your dick again. No, I did. You did immediately. Every podcast. Because I was in my head because when you were asking what it would take for me to get fired, I immediately, I didn't say all about your dick. I mean, everyone's taking it fired.

Immediately, I didn't say this at the time because there was this much left in the bottle but now there's this much I was actually thinking what if I just walked into your office and came on your leg? Well that, no Would I get fired?

No, don't know Let's not go there at all They Gavin, let's find out I don't stand outside your office Wait wait wait wait, is there a camera? Is there a camera? Sure, there's a guy. It's fine. No problem. I just want good footage. I just want good footage.

Seaman is just really offensive, isn't it? But it's nothing more offensive than a streak of seed. It's very that's like spit is pretty bad talking about it right now Well, I just I just spit I just spit on Matt a few minutes ago, which is I guess a step below that. Probably the most disgusting thing that's happening to me. It's even more disgusting than the hand dog aftermath. So, a lot of times on the podcast, over the course, the podcast.

I'd like to talk a little bit in a retrospective manner about Rucherti, the podcast. Maybe we should talk about like how some of the shows started. I have a visual aid. What is that? Can I, can I, must I say that real quick? Yeah, do it. You have a visual aid?

I do, I do. So my key, you know, the interesting thing about Rupert Heath is that He really does. I do. The interesting thing about Rupert Heath, especially for This is the interesting thing about Rupert Heath. Well, just to have it's affected our lives personally that the fans might not be aware of, is you try to like chart

moments in your life based on what we've been doing with Rupert Heath all over. And then these interesting things like we all have, or a lot of us have kids, Bernie and me and Jeff- Readers. Yeah, a lot of other people at the company now. And like my kids were all born after we started Red versus Blue. And it's just a weird thing to think about that in a timeline.

So I actually had to explain to my six year old what happened with Red versus Blue and how that started because he's just kind of figured out what Ristrathe is now. And can we see that? This is the Eidra picture of how Ristrathe started. So I explained to him, it's like, Bernie had this great idea for doing Red versus Blue,

and he came up with this funny stuff, and he called Daddy, and said, would you be Sarge in the show? And that's how he started. And then after things went well, we all moved from LA to Austin. So this is his reinterpretation of it, is that this is Daddy is Sarge. Okay.

And then Bernie, I came to Austin as Sarge, and when I got there, you were there, that's you. Did you do a good job of you? Yeah, it's fantastic. It's fantastic. And then he's six. Come on, come on. Hey.

Okay, sorry. Your face is inscribable. And then I got to Austin. I get to Austin as as Sarge in my armor. And you said never mind. We're gonna do Star Wars instead. Is that what you had to lightsaber? So you you did a switch of rules. And my hand you a pink coat. You're having me a coat. Your kids your kids do something or we're doing something earlier, which was the cutest thing ever, where they were

keep they were quoting an animated adventure to me. They love you on the animated adventure. Where the animated adventure, who I tell Miles, he has to leave when he shows up, and they came up to me and they both were just like, yeah, you have to leave. You have to leave. You have to leave.

That's all they would say, homeward and over. They look at Gus and they go, yeah, you need to leave. So why don't we replace in Jordan? I know, right? That's an animated adventure. Are you a soyclubs? What is that? I am a...

Yes, it's Viser, sorry. Oh, you're in the helmet. I was a match-to-cheater. I showed up in my costume and Bernie had switched to Star Wars. So there you go. That's the entire story of Bruce Lee. You actually changed the voice of Saj's slightly from the beginning. I changed Bruce Lee. You actually changed the voice of Sgt. slightly, didn't you from the beginning?

I changed a lot. You did. Because I think actually my first pitch for doing Sgt. to Bernie was, he said, can you do Arleigh Ermi? Uh-huh. Who is the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket? Full Metal Jacket. And I said, well, that's kind of tough.

Because he's got an interesting voice where it's like, he sounds very authoritative. And it's kind of a strange sound, but it's not really that gruff if you listen to it. It's strained, but not gruff. And gruff was like, he's for me to do that in strange. So I said, could I do half Arlea Irmene, half Mr. T? Because I wanted to put, I pivoted the fool to interval,

sorry, just lines. And Bernie didn't like that idea. So I started trying to do a really bad early or me impersonation in the first season. And then after that, I couldn't keep up with it. So I just started modulating it to be something else. Annoying to do. Yeah, next year is gonna be Pinnet Food.

That's all it's gonna be. Guys, I wanna apologize for whatever is going on with my mic. I'm gonna try to hold it in my hand for a while. Jordan, share mine. No, people on the to hold it in my hand for a while. Should I share mine? No. People in the Twitter are just going to kind of nuts over it. So apparently, it's my mic is acting up.

I apologize for that. Yeah, that wasn't planned at all. No, it wasn't. Didn't, you know? Yeah. Sorry, there's still some units. It's still a problem, just let me know, please. Yes, I'm about that.

It's really interesting. It's really, there's a lot of challenges with moving our entire podcast production somewhere and going with it. Have we replaced the microphone yet? We have spares. We have backup. I was about to ask if we do, but I don't know if we do or not.

Do we have a? Maybe you can run a different one for me. Do we have a spare mic? I don't know if we can run for him. No, no spare accelerars. Special. Gotcha. OK, so.

But guess, we know how you first heard about Red versus Blue, because I basically just went over your house and pointed the camera in your face and said say this in that map. Do you remember the first time we talked about Red versus Blue at all? I don't know, it's hard to say. I definitely remember the first time we talked about Rooster Teeth, which was you called and said, oh, I have to go file to be a business. And we can't do cock bite, enterprises, or whatever. And we can't do red versus blue incorporated. And I got a great idea for what we call it, Rooster Teeth. I thought that's perfect.

For some reason, I remember that phone call really well. I thought that was genius. I can't remember one of the first, like, couple of red versus blue quotes, or first time we talked about red versus blue, but I think Joel was over all the time. It was probably like, Bernie was calling just asking about, do we have a couple extra parts?

Can you guys do them? Yeah. You know? Yeah. And we just recorded them in the Yeah. I know. Yeah. And we recorded them in the apartment. I remember when we did the first line reading for episode one, it's on, you know, but we did some of the DVDs.

Yeah. I can remember thinking, like, I remember even asking, you were at the time with the camera, like, why recording this? Like, this is stupid. So we had made so many failed websites up to that point. Yeah. And I don't understand what the point of documenting it was. So I have a question for both of you.

What in the last 10 years has been your ultimate moment in Ristete? Man, it's hard to say. You know, it was harder to top. I think probably the first RTX, probably the first RTX and going into the ballroom with everybody, because we've been in huge gatherings with with fans like that before but that was the most

intense display of affection and Just enthusiasm for us because I think everyone who went to the first year RTX was like Yeah, they were they were really dedicated. They were really dedicated and they took a chance on us Yeah with RTX and and I hope it paid off for everybody. I thought it was great. That was a huge, huge one. And then the Lincoln Center showing. Yeah, that was great.

The Lincoln Center was unbelievable. The season two premiere. Yeah. I'm going to get sidetracked for a second here. Yeah. Because you talked about RTX. Yeah. And I read off some of our exhibitors the other week,

one of which was Iron Galaxy Studios. Well, right. And people may not know who they are necessarily, but they had a big coming out, a big presentation at Pax East just the other week, where the other guys who developed dive kick, which is the ultimate fighting game. And this is all anybody could talk about the packs.

It was easily the coolest thing I saw at packs. So they're bringing dive kick to RTX. We're going to have some center stage time with it. It's a fighting game with only two buttons, dive and kick. So all you do is dive and kick against your opponent. So I'm just really intense. Yeah, absolutely. It's like super strategic, like you're jumping

and trying to figure out when the optimum time to attack your opponent is or to kick your opponent. And I was reading, it looks kind of like, there's a Neo Geo game that reminds me of the art style. I can't think of the name right now, but I was reading an interview with one of the developers and one of the art style. I can't think of the name right now. But I was reading an interview with one of the developers and one of the things is if you're on the ground and you hit kick, you're like dash backwards. And someone was asking him, why is it that when you kick

on the ground you dive back or you jump backwards and the developer said, it's not that you're jumping backwards. What happens is you kick the earth so hard, you rotate it away from you. And it gives me illusion that you're jumping backwards. That sounds like that is perfect for that game. That's great. But you're getting it's supposed to be somewhat of a parody of fighting games, but also kind of like an homage from what I understand.

Yeah. Is that fair to say? Yeah, absolutely. And one, it's like instant one hit kills. That's great. It's like super, if you're into fighting games, it's like super concentrated, like the ultimate fighting game experience.

It's really great. Do you think video games are getting easier? I actually was just in an arcade. This is like the first time I've ever been to an arcade. And I played Donkey Kong on a really old game. Yeah, damn those games are hard. Do you know I really hate you right now. I wish Bernie had your microphone Why? Because I want to talk to you about by our shuck infinite and he's talking about dog

I think they can pick me up on Gavin's mic. No, you don't don't get through all that They said they can pick me up again. Okay, so go ahead. I'll just talk a little later I'm I'm I think like I'm about 10 minutes away from finishing by our fucking finit finally. Oh, yeah By the way great great story play through the second time, it does not hold up. The story doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I think that overall, of course I'm not done yet, but atmosphere wise and game play wise, I think I liked the original BioShock more. It's a better game.

Yeah, I think so. I thought map layout and design was better. I thought they did a better job of creating atmosphere. Not that they did a bad job of creating atmosphere and bio-fucking infinite. I think they just set the bar way too high on the first go round. Do you think so?

I think also too, it's like, I mean, if that was a movie, that would be like a trilogy. Like everything they go through in infinite is just like, I don't want to get any spoilers, just a lot of people are still playing it, but I'm kind of curious where. Do you have the tent of NIST, just really freaking me out?

So, man. But I'm just gonna, I'm just, it's a very long game, and I think especially with an interactive game that depends so much on a narrative storyline, you can play through so much that you lose like, by the time in the middle of like the eighth act, you're like, what the fuck am I doing?

Why am I even here anymore? I feel like at this point where I am, like there are parts I wish that have been cut out. I agree. I feel like there's some parts where it's like I'm circling back and redoing things like. A lot of backtracking in that game. I can't, I don't want to give spoilers. But there's certain parts where it's like you go, you do one thing and it's like, oh, go back and look at these three things.

Right. And then come back and you can go forward. It's like, why not just proceed straight forward? I feel like it's a little too long. Why hasn't that been turning into a movie the first one? I think it was like Gore Verbinski had it for a little while. I think it's on the docket. No one's made a really killer video game movie yet. Like Prince of Persia, I think did well financially, but there's been no like Batman. You know, like Tim Bertrand. What is that launched all the superhero movies? What's the most popular?

In the most recent generation, I guess Spider-Man was the one that really launched everything. Resident Evil. What about it? I mean, what's the most popular video game? Two-hater? Two-hater? Frances, two-hater? Two-hater?

Do any Pokemon movies do you pretty well? What? I don't care. But don't Pokemon's a video game based on a cartoon, isn't it? No, I think it was a cartoon based on a video game. Yeah, the video game is red and blue. It was like Transformers where it's like you make the cartoon a sell to toys. Okay, no, it makes sense.

Oh, yeah, you know, that was another reason we're here. We got kicked off a track for Transformers. Yeah, the circuit, they're, I don't know if I can say that. Everyone's kind of going nuts about me being in the least bit critical of BioShock Infinite. I thought it was a very good game. It's a great game. We should definitely do a spoiler cast based on that one though since it's such a heavy narrative game.

One guy in particular said, oh, you like the ending of Mass Effect, but you didn't like the ending of Infinite? Yeah. The ending of Mass Effect was completely entirely fine. I still don't know what people's issues are with Mass Effect. It's when you sense and it tight things up. It's when you finish it a second time and you go through and you see the other options. Yeah. That's when you have a problem. Because I was fine with it my first playthrough then when I played through it chose the other ending and I realized

that how similar they were. That's when I had a problem. Yeah. See I don't even know where you are in Bioshock infinite. I don't want to give spoilers so we'll just wait for a later time. So is it it's a prequel right to the under one? Yes. It was in the sky first. As far as I know so far where I'm'm in the game, they're not related. But it takes place earlier in time. Yes. So about the same dude, it's not that's good. But who knows? You know, at the point where I am, it's really touching on a lot of interesting things about different possibilities and quantum mechanics and different universes. We can't even get that in there. I'm just gonna give it.

You're like, what are you? You're like, what are you? We're gonna wrap up relatively soon. I'm warning you right now. This is your early warning. So we gotta wrap up. We gotta wrap up. Can you retrospective here?

All right, let's talk about it. We gotta wrap up at some point though, because we gotta get up at like four in the morning. Tomorrow. You went from Hollywood home to old man. You guys are old now. You're old. You were always old. You were like 40.

You were kind of like Jack is now where you were like born at 40. Well Jack's definitely the oldest person at the company, right? Yeah. No, he's just curmudgeonly. Although he's coming out of his shell a little bit though. A little bit. He's less curmudgeonly. But know, Gus was always the oldest one. Yeah.

And in the early days too, you were also always the most recognizable because you're the most distinct looking I think. Does that mean a mug? Yes, that means you're ugly. I was gonna say that. Like, very good. Are you a good judge of an attractive man? No, not at all.

What was he his basis? Look at me, this is the best I can do. Do you think I know what good look we good is? No. It's like, well, Brad Pitt would look good if he stayed awake for 12 hours. So they go to sleep tonight. Then he would look great and got sick from.

God, this fucking illness man. But yeah, we would go everywhere. Like, we would go to Best Buy if we'd be like, everybody would be like, oh, God. So they'd come out and like, I remember the early days, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know He recognized me in the parking lot of Fry's in Austin and brought me a copy of the Apple Switch parody we did that he had burned to a CD. And he said he had burned a stack of them

and he was sharing them with his friends before thumb drives really existed. It's like that was the way you would do it. That was the best economical way to share files was via burning them to CDR. So why did he sign one of his CDR? Why did he have this on him at the time? Because he was passing him out to his friend just happened to have it on oh weird They're like a spindle of them that he had burned

You know it is over the course of 10 years One of the most fun things to do is ask people how they heard about red versus blue or how they heard about Rooster Excuse me, yeah, and the answers are always completely different What's because the company's done so much there's so many different doorways to come into the company and it's such a big window of time too It is you know, and we talked a little bit about one of the things that pissed us off early on is There are always sites there weren't many web series when we started that we're only the term web series was even used Way to kind of teach people when we first started that here's the thing and there's gonna be another one next week I don't know if the term viral viral video no viral video because our

That it wouldn't use there was no YouTube the internet wasn't as annoying Back then so didn't come up with tons like viral video But I'm gonna myself go viral like the first viral thing that I can remember It was the dancing baby and we consider his switch ad went viral like we talked about that I was gonna say South Park the South Park Christmas letter. Yeah dancing baby was Jesus versus Santa or whatever. Yeah, it was so different how you watch things back then like people passed them around on CDs But yeah, dancing baby was before the... The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the And it's just completely different. Well, when we started Red versus Blue, and we were doing the QuickTime Downloads, with everything in the office, I was working on,

was working on a movie, and there was a guy who was really into technology there. And he came in, and I was watching a Red versus Blue upset, it was like, episode two or three. And this guy came in and goes, hey, have you heard of this new thing that they're doing with Flash, where you can encode Flash, is video now? And he wanted to talk to me about that. And I was like, ah, whatever, that's not going to happen. And like at the time, we were like downloading, you know, quick times to everybody, we had explained everybody on the website, I had to do it.

And now, you don't download anything, you stream it, you know, you watch it like we're streaming this now, you stream it you know you watch it like we're streaming this now You stream stuff on YouTube or Fucking phone on your phone whatever. Yeah, nobody's like I'll get down with the file I'm gonna find where it is on my hard drive and then I can watch it whatever it's like it really is a totally different world And that's all happened it over the course of the 10 years We've been doing is actually one of the biggest things that reduced our expenses because when we first started We had to figure out a way to host all this stuff because YouTube didn't exist and when one of our biggest things that reduced our expenses because when we first started we had to figure out a way to host all this stuff because YouTube didn't exist and when one

of our videos got really popular it actually cost us a bunch of money and that was something that you know I don't think people talk about it. And we would have to have mirrors remember mirrors and download mirrors like yeah download from here if that one you can get it from here download from here. You used to give off torrent links as well. Yeah we stopped doing that after being used to torrent links as well. Yeah, we stopped doing that. It's really used torrent links. We talked to people how to use bit torrent

and they used it to pirate the DVDs. So that's where you stopped doing that. I remember too how we figured out how many down modes there had been, how many times people have viewed the video. We didn't have a counter like you do on YouTube. It was just, Gus would get the log files. And it's like, we serve this most data. The video we had this week was this big, and just divide.

You could also write a script where you could parse the web logs and pull out the number of gets for that individual file. And then you would put them all in a file, like lines. And then you would count how many lines were in the file. So you would like cat a patchy log so pipe grip get whatever pipe wc dash l and it would return you a number and it'd be like how many you so back when a video did really well, I think episode two was the one that made it take off tips of two kind of stuff right it was was thousands of people watched episode one and then 250,000 watched episode one.

Were you worried that it would cost you too much money? Like would it be too much? Yeah, yeah. Because we had three different data centers all around the US where we were hosting stuff. And it was, and we couldn't keep up with it. I wonder how many times tol across every platform the episode one of Redbus Spl's Blu has been seen.

Would it be impossible to tell? I think it's got to be one of the most few videos ever. Yeah. It's got to be. It might be a billion. You know, I mean, a lot of all the times that it's appeared on YouTube and every other internet video platform that wasn't uploaded by us.

That was uploaded by someone else and would have, you know, two, five million views, whatever. And there's just so many instances of them. One of the early, one of my earlier visits to the company, probably 2007 time, I actually emailed YouTube and got the Rucity the Count from someone who had it. Oh, you're the one who had it? Yeah, actually, the address, it came to my email address, the Rucity the Count from someone who had it. Oh, you're the one who had it? Yeah, actually, it came to my email address, the Rucity. And then we had another account where I would just take down. That's the P. Yeah, yeah.

That's the other one. Yeah, that was like a job that you passed over to me for a while. Well, that was the funny thing. Like, originally with YouTube, the way you got videos taken down was through Fax. Do you remember that? I remember someone who did it. F-A-X. Not F-A- A Q S. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like watching they come out? We were like, oh my god, and I sent it to them and they're like instantly they gave us the ability to

So I posted on Twitter. I just put up the Counter that I had for counting our hits and it's like the very first hit ever on red verse blue.com I screen shot of it. You did. Yeah, just in case just in case you know things took off I'm moving your leg. Sorry, man. Your unique unique. Number one was Friday, March 8, 2003. We were sent up the website. Yep. It's not. So just like everything else, we were doing it two days

before the site launch. We were there, setting everything up. And that was the counter.com. I remember that. That's what we used for a long time. Yeah, we did. Yeah, I remember that, because we didn't know how to do it ourselves.

But you can actually see how stuff would go viral. Like you talked about it, because he would parse those logs. Like Gus would do that, he would watch. And you would watch a video like would go viral like you talked about it because he would parse those logs like Gus would do that he would watch. And you would watch a video like somebody at like, for instance, who was working in Dell and worked in the Dell.com domain, they would hit the site and they would pull a video. Then all of a sudden, five more people

from Dell.com would do it. And then 30 more people would do it. So you'd see how it would spread through organizations like that. And I remember Gus used to love doing that stuff all the time like, parsed it out and how it was going. and it was interesting the day that was like we got one hit from Microsoft calm Then we got five we got a Bound it was like over time like over the course of minutes. Yeah, you can watch it like spread

It was like the phone ring Like the next day. Yeah, it was like the infection from what I sneezed on you a second ago Yeah, hopefully you'll keep that just to you guys. That will be a, that's a viral hit. All right, well let's wrap this up. How did I meet Gavin? How did I meet Gavin? I met Gavin for the first time in London when we went there for that film festival.

How old were you? I was October 2004, so I think I was 15 or 16. I met you and your friend, Ferry. Johnny Ferry, yeah. He was the one that showed me red versus blue, because we had a substitute teacher one day, and she put us all in alphabetical order. So Ferry was next to free, so I had to sit next to him.

And I was like, oh, sit next to Ferry. He was like, you play Halo, right? I was like, yeah, he said, look at this. And I was like, oh, what do you do? It's a quick linear leg. What did you say? Did he hand you something? Yeah, he gave me a paper.

It said red versus blue. He'll come on it. He literally handed you a note. Check the spots if you like it first. That's too funny. Yeah, and that's, so like I said, my first interaction with him was when he tried to lie to get a free sponsor. How do you remember that?

I remembered all of those from the early days. You were one of the first people who tried it. He was an active member of the site like you were posting like pictures of yourself cloned all over your backyard Yeah, I love free time. You know as a kid you said long hair You're pretty and we know how you two met we know how Gus and Matt you guys met because it's the subject of a Ruchie animated adventure Wayne Gus were used to the Vegas jumped out of the car, although we we actually had met One time prior to that I don't remember this telling network at You hired me to do photography stuff for what? Convention stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember we did the poster with you of like why you don't want to hire

Text support guy because they're like you. Yeah, remember that That's right. I do remember that. That was you? I remember that. Yeah, I think it a terrible job too. Yeah, it was pretty awful. It was pretty bad. Well, also then we did our Photoshop skills and they were just those lots of photos.

It was like Photoshop too. We've learned a lot since those days. But anyway, thank you to everyone who watches and who supports the work we do. We wouldn't be here after 10 years if it wasn't for the audience and people enjoying the work. We might be here. This is like the sad, sobby part. Will that be 10 more years? I hope there's more than 10 more years. Really? At this point I have no applicable career skills anywhere else. Okay, reverse of a Rishi stops tomorrow. What do you do?

Shotgun of the mouth, is that your... Mass murder? I don't know. I start checking down my vendetta list. I used to work on a list. I like it, that's a movie of itself. Mac, you'd have a career, that's a city. No, I don't think, I don't know, man. I remember when we were doing season two,

like, I was still getting a lot of calls for work, for movies and TV shows and I was turning them down. And then once we got into season three, I didn't get any more phone calls. And I thought, okay, season three better work. I guess I'm in it now. This is it. I remember when we started,

I would not buy a car or buy a house. Because I was like, there's no way this is ever gonna last. Yeah. It was like, I want to have no debt because this is gonna go away like tomorrow. There's no way this is going to last. Well, I mean, it's pretty amazing that we've

been here for 10 years. It's, you know, I would just say I can't think of a better group of people to spend 10 years with. But I probably can. I probably can. Some of the close from the Claremont lounge. Yeah. We'll forget it for me.

20. But I've had a good time. Yeah. it's really good time. Yeah, it's been it really has been and it has been an absolute blast to earn a living this way. You know, if you want to call it work, I guess we call it work. But yeah, it's been an amazing way to spend a decade for sure. I'm very appreciative to be a part of it. You've actually been a giant. It's almost going to be half my life at some point. Yeah. As I started quite young. I see people on Twitter asking how you and I met Bernie. I feel like we've gone over that a million times.

I get around to those how I met everybody on your birthdays one year. Yeah. Like every year my journal, and for a year when someone's birthday came out, I said how I met him. And I remember specifically you, you were working at the company,

and I didn't know you that we were all placed. We were all placed. They were all placed, they were all company. They were all placed. They were all placed. They were all placed. They were all placed. They were all placed, they were all company. They were tech support company. And we had a dreamcast that was in the break room. And we were playing Dead or Alive 2. We had competitions. And this guy sat down next to me, and it was you.

And I beat the shit out of you in the first round. And I was kind of a video game player where it's like, I felt like I should apologize for my video game skills. Like, I should like, it shouldn't be a thing that you're good at video games. And so I said, I said, I just wanted to say, I'm actually pretty good at video games. The second round started and he perfected me. He just destroyed me in the next round and he goes like this really slowly.

It was the other way but I'll do it like I said he goes. I'm pretty good at video games too. I remember I was playing this Helena and I had figured out a combo where I could play against your character And like perfect like I knew exactly all the moves to go through it was like it was a checklist in my mind It was like do these 10 moves and you win the games. Yeah, it's always just like one that going down the list It was like done perfect. Did you slam the controller down and walk out? I was so angry I was like this motherfucker. I was like I've been like I took it easy on him because I don't know him And he tells me he knows how to play video games.

I was like, no, no, no, fuck you. You're getting the list now. Ha ha ha ha ha. God, I feel like you're going to the list here. It's like, you don't want to know how we met Jack Pean, everybody else. So I met Jack Pean, a poker game. It's really simple.

And he was right in first sight called Ain't Cool News. And when I saw him, I remember first time I saw Barbara, I saw her profile on the site. I thought she was a fake account. And I was going to delete her account. Well, if it was a girl on the site, I thought she was a fake account, and I was going to delete her account. Well, if it was a girl on the site, we thought it was a fake account. What's that? It was a girl on the site, we thought it was a fake account on those days. Well, she was 15-year-old blonde from Canada, like this is.

This is a huge fake account. There are pictures of Barbara, you and me and Barbara at RBBTO in like 2004 or five. She has braces and pigtails. Yeah, and it's super, super aggro. I think we signed your arm and you're like holding your arm up. Michael, we know because we read a video that we saw. The crack down one. Watch that crack down video and immediately fell in love with it. And then Kathleen, I met through Matt.

As you guys have worked in the animation and Warner Brothers. Kathleen hired me for Scooby Doo. And then the main group, the one that started at least, Rooch-Jeef is basically two groups of candy out of his guys. I worked with in Austin and then guys I had worked on movies with. So Jeff and Jiguss from my tech company that I worked at. And then it was Matt and Joel who I'd made movies with in college. Did you know that when we worked at the call center,

Jeff was a level one employee, like a base entry level employee. And I was not his manager. Someone else was his manager at the time. His manager did not want to promote him to a level two employee because he thought he was faking his call times. And I kept lobbying for Jeff to be promoted to a level two employee. And they was finally decided in the game of horse, like a physical game of horse at the Bosque ball court out of our call center and I won the

game. Who are you playing? You be in a game of horse. Culls are. You be Dave Culls are in a game of horse. And so Jeff has to promote Jeff to level two employee at that time. Wow. And I wonder about that a lot. That is like such a... Alibama country song story. So, some competition. It was spin contest three years. He did not want to promote him.

And then Jason works at the call center. Another funny thing about that thing, this is what Dan always says. I don't know if it's true or not though, is that Dan worked at the call center with us. Dan who plays Donut and Red Briss Blue. And his thing about how he came to work at the call center was he just showed up for work. Like he just came like he was hired. He interviewed and never got a call back, but he just showed up like he was a new employee. Didn't you get a promotion the same way? No. No.

Like you said, I was probably... Yeah, I didn't know what that was. You were okay, cool. It's amazing how much confidence can get you, just forcefully. I think when it came time to cut him a check,ntie was like fun, I'm just guys paper work Yeah, I tried to think about other people the company how we met him You know, it's just like along the way we just met people a lot of people that we've hired have been through the community A lot of our hires have been that way. You know, that's how we first discovered like Luke McKay

Nico is from the community, too, wasn't he? Grasshopper. Yeah, no, he wrote me an episode six and said, I like your show, but I hate your music. And Ben? Yeah, Ben was the same way. John Mann. He was Mr. Gavin here. Gavino at the time.

Yeah. So yeah, it's been fun. It's been fun to grow the company that way too. And it's like, there's a lot of times over the course of the years, especially than the first nine years. When I was CEO, there's definitely times when we could have grown I think faster.

But I think the real story of Rich D. Longterm is going to be the longevity and the perseverance of the company and how we've always adapted. We came from an era before YouTube. We had our own website. We were going up against major sites which seemed big at the time like MySpace and we were up against heavy.com. What was it? Liquid, what was the liquid nation or whatever?

Oh yeah. Like all these sites that like don't exist anymore. But they were huge at the time, you know. And it's like now when you talk about stuff like Twitter and Facebook and YouTube even, it's like trying to stay alive in those environments. It's like you always have to adapt and stay flexible and I think that's what we've done really well.

Thanks, Monty, by the way. He just texted me and said, how was it you say Juan as Juan but wonder properly? I think we know how we met Monti, right? We just saw his video, Haloid, and then we tried for three years to work with him. And then you had a staring dip at his meeting with him at Comic Con, wasn't it? Yeah, it was actually the guy who put that panel together was kale anonymous from machinima, and he just did that video. Do you see the first party? First person party? Yeah of our party together. That was him? That was Kyle.

Oh, I didn't know. Kale. It's not Kyle. Kale Anonymous who did that and he's the guy who actually was the reason that money and I got in the same room. Oh, that's great. I would never tell this to Kale but he basically did the panel because I saw Monty's name on the list and Monty said he did the panel because he saw my name in the list and then afterwards we just all talked together and We were on the panel with the dude who crashed our packs panel the key

What's his name? And he he he was an asshole during that panel too That guy when I showed up to Pax East this year I went to the organizer. It's like we're not gonna run into someone so again I mean like not if we have anything to do about it. I, listen, I still don't have any problem. I think that guy's super down. I absolutely have a problem with that.

I just think he, I don't think people realize that like, when you're a performer and you go and you crash something, you can't be like a greedy performer. If he's probably one of the greediest performers that I've ever had in the industry. To kind of ask, does our tolls ahead of time? I'd have been totally fine with it. Yeah, but the fact that he shows up and then you serps it, that's unacceptable.

It's just too greedy. It's too greedy. The performance is a two way thing all the time. It's like even trying to work with them, it didn't go anywhere. It's always a two way street like down to the most fundamental level of just like being in a scene with somebody else. And if you're going to come up and do something like that, you're in a scene with somebody else.

So you've got to take cues from the other person or the other people. Sorry, we got a rap. We got a rap. Alright, I got to wrap. We got to wrap. All right. I have one more question then. Last one. This is prediction. Do you think the internet will be more different in 10 years from now?

Like the gap between 10 years and now, 10 years ago, will be different from 10 years from now. Wow. It would be a bigger difference. Wow. Now, because it didn't really exist. Like, we were making stuff for dial up back then. And I don't think there will be as big as shifts from dial up. It will.

Because technology advances way quicker. Because technology advances way quicker. Because technology advances way quicker. Because technology advances way quicker from hardline broadband home connections to wireless mobile connections. And wearable stuff, too. Yeah, absolutely. It's going to be totally different.

Before the computer and your download was a physical locked location, now it's wherever you want it to be. And moving forward, it's going to be even more diverse. Well, everybody in 10 years have like Google So ladybugs are good luck. Yeah contact contact contact lenses and we're talking about wasn't it funny 10 years ago We thought Google glasses were gonna be the thing. Oh Google might not be around or Google might not be around Yeah, Google might be my space. I think the next 10 years for the internet are gonna be a lot more regulation of the internet And a lot more segmentation of it like what 10 years from now we might not recognize the internet as one continuous thing like it is

now. Well, I hope that... Maybe bugs are good luck, right? There's a thousand ladybugs. So we got good luck. I hope that the internet does not turn into the TV model where it's all giant networks. Well, there's a lot of people invested to make that happen. There's a lot of people invested to make that happen and I would love if companies like ours that are smaller and independent could continue to thrive on the internet in the way you can't do in TV because it's all giant corporations that control that. I think that would be good for everybody actually.

Yeah, well, that's one of disappointing things for me about the internet is that I feel like a lot of people who've moved out to the West Coast Feel like that's where they have to go. Yeah, to make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah And it doesn't matter as long as you have broadband you can be anywhere in the world But at the end of the day, so we're wrapping up. Yeah, actually But I think our story has has followed the same path as the internet in general I mean when we started internet was always about like people who like at their homes in the spare bedrooms or in the garage Internet was always about people who at their homes, in their spare bedrooms or in their garages,

starting these sites or starting some technology or starting these shows and then growing and slowly into something else. And then conglomerating and making these big companies, but I think in the course of our entire company we've done that just navigated that path along with everybody else. In a lot of ways, it makes me think

about the personal computer revolution when that started. It was people making them in their garages and in their spare bedrooms, when then form big companies out of it and you know, really made a difference like that. So I think I answered your question. The next thing you're using for our company, that's interesting because at this stage,

it's like where we are now and the size we are now, we have 45 people to work for us, fluctuating almost on a daily basis. You know, what do we do, where do we go from here? You know, and Matt's going to be the guy who's gonna like guys do that figure South I'm excited to watch this in 10 years and feel dumb. Yeah, our predictions. All right. Well, that's it. We're all done Actually this ladybug is gonna fire us So everyone thanks for joining us. We do our live stream podcasts every Monday

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