Rooster Teeth Podcast - RT Podcast #329

Episode Date: July 8, 2015

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I like holla notes too. Yeah, I could totally, I picture you like singing holla notes in the shower. Big under ender end. What do you know that we don't, guys? Why are you bringing this up like that? Yeah, where's talking about my sharers hunks, guys? Cause right before the podcast,

Blaine was taking a shower. Oh really before the podcast, blame was taken a shower. Oh, really? Wait, did you singing in the shower? God, were you really? Yeah, yeah. What you walked in and tell them it's something. Fuck. We had some choice. Hollin oats tunes going.

Did you record it? I don't even know which one is hollow and which ones oats. Hall is on the left. The blame is Darryl Hall. I'm all blame hall. What did you record it? I'm sure we didn't we didn't we didn't get any Oh, you're singing what's this thing? Hi, there's a out of touch. I'm out of time I'm out of time In the shower. Yeah, it's you know, who's good for it? I'm out of good day I'll also use shower here and you don't shower the gym

Yeah, there's a little men ball sacks in the gym oh men like to put out their balls sacks at the gym they love doing that I just the other day I walked straight in and just looked like I was just like making eye contact with an asshole I mean as soon as I walked in I'm right here dude sitting right here yeah the same experience in the podcast too so you're talking about like old dude nut sacks I saw you do a periscope the other day showing your girlfriend a lemon party for the first time ever Oh, yeah, no, it was wonderful I was like so excited she hadn't seen it and I was trying to figure out what else she hasn't seen that I could show her But she's seen a surprisingly amount of horrible things meet spin

She's seen me spin she didn't know initially, but then she thought about it for a while and she put she thought about it He should and then she pulled it up and I'm not the only one that's tried the meat spin We go like you're hit and then you get your dick spinning. So you try it like they do in the video How did you do in the video? I can't remember. I've been spinning it and it was like a penis going up and out of the button. Oh No, no, no, no I don't try that but no, I'm the the whole like I'm pretty sure every dude with a penis is ever guys try to do that What's your form? I know that I know so I cock my hips a little bit more. It's the same thing is like tassels, right? The nipples. I assume it's the same like Josh. Oh, okay if it's just like that then it's no problem

We've all you everybody knows what I'm talking about guys Yeah, I have no way to apply that knowledge. I don't know. Let me think about it. No. I don't cock it's a certain direction No, no, I was like you have spun your dick. I thought you're gonna deny it. No, I don't caucus in a certain direction. No, no I was like you have spun your deck. I thought you're gonna deny it. No, I was spinning your day No, why would I deny that? No, I just the the tough part of the initial swing to get it going and then you got like It's like a propeller. You got a yell contact You get it going You know as buddies the the one where the no hand clap for you like just do

Thank God you heard hall notes in the shower guys. I thought I'm gonna say. You could have heard a lot worse. You could have heard a lot worse. You could have heard a lot worse. You could have heard a lot worse. You could have heard a lot worse. You could have heard a lot worse.

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Just because it's like, it's a very noticeable haircut. Yeah, but normally I let my hair get really long and then just cut it down to a more messy way. What's your photo that you have, which is your primary publicity photo, has you with very long hair in it. Yeah, I think I didn't cut my hair

for like a year and a half. We can cut that photo, yeah. Isn't that what the red shirt? Yeah, it's just, I look, and then like I look back at some of those photos in me from that time frame and I'm like, I look like a homeless person. I go, I go, I go, how was I look back at some of those photos of me from that time frame I'm like I look like a homeless person Like I was I allowed to function as a member of society like that It's the buzzed hair that always freaks me out every time I see the older pictures with you

We just like Yeah, that's like free bruise your teeth, right? No, it's like early wrist teeth. That's like up until like Oh five yeah, I've seen old stories with you as long here Have you ever grown out your hair that long? My hair doesn't do that like in my hair that I just had my hair as long as it basically gets and then just like my hair reaches this point where it goes out out out and then it goes it's gonna dense a five just like yeah it's just a curls in on itself and it just gets thicker and thicker and thicker yeah I I'm same thing like you're at the bar the other night with Fizz and I was like putting straws in my hair

Oh, yeah, and then I can forget about them for the rest of the night and I did Showing people that and then like later I ran my fingers. You're my hair and I had like four straws But fell out of my hair. I felt so bad that night Fizz is friend Lester who also works at YouTube. Yeah, bet on me with that little ring toss game You know the the game where it's a string and it's got a ring connected to it and you try to hook it We're playing it. Yeah, and I got good's a string and it's got a ring connected to it and you try to hook it. We're playing it Yeah, and I got good at it and then my head lester saw me playing it and he had been losing money this guy on nine He said I bet a hundred dollars on blaine. Wow fucking choked. Did you just a hundred dollars on me? How much of that money did you get?

No, I didn't because I lost it and then like Gavin put his hand on my shoulder And he was like you just like harm someone He was like you just like harm someone financially and I felt terrible. It wasn't your fault You didn't force him to be on you. No, I explained fault I'm not now. Oh absolutely you are clear of guilt here blame Did he get upset with you when he saw you at E3? No, we joked around about it And I give him a hug. No, you let's try to give a hug. It's good. That's good change for a hundred bucks So did he got a hug guys did they collect did he actually lose a hundred bucks? Yeah, he like right as soon as it happens He was he's gonna harbor resentment for you forever. No, Luster's cool. Luster likes me. We're good. Me no sir

I don't believe that tight that's that's the truth Almost hungry. Yeah, yeah, I paid the brand and even has to ask that question did he did he have to pay up? Because it's like the default now you bet people and when they lose are just like no, I'm not gonna pay yeah Yeah, it's just like betting is just like theoretical. Unless you were to exist. Unless you win and then it's not theoretical. Right. So you're like, you fucker. What's the biggest bet you've won or lost? I almost I'm mostly the bet with Gavin. That would be a huge one. What's the biggest bet that I've lost? I don't know you said water lost into one or lost hundred bucks hundred bucks. That's not bad

You know you're bet between people not like big risk or something like that I watched Lester lose about six or seven hundred dollars that night really fucking ring game betting on rings mm-hmm Nope, yeah, nope. This guy was just racking it up on him So I don't bet much and when I do when I do bet like the one battle making baguettes is like when I go by uh... like a roulette table and I see there's like five blacks in a row on a roulette table it's racist man take it everybody take it all the time

take it easy with the jokes come on uh... the uh... so I would go to I would go bet against a street like if you see five blacks in a row or five let's say five reds in a row for sake of not being racist if you see five blacks in row or five let's say five reds in row for say you know if not being racist if you see five reds in a row in eight of americans okay do you think the you think the next number will be black or red uh... if you see six a five in a row if it's if it's six reds in a row probably is going to be black

i i don't know neither neither a like seeing five blacks seeing five of any color and you know you're in my head it's just a color. I know you're in my head. It's just a matter of time. You're in my head. It would not affect. It would not make me want to bet.

Because I think fundamentally, some people vote with streets and some people vote against streets. I vote against the street. Yeah, I'm totally more of a street. Even though statistically, there's nothing that makes the next number more or less likely. Yeah. I mean, if you were to predict will that happen, it's unlikely, but when you're there and you're looking makes the next number more or less likely. Yeah, I mean if you were to predict will that happen

It's unlikely but when you're there and you're looking at the next role It's still like 48% chance each way nonetheless when I walk by a roulette table and I see there's five of anyone color in a row I will bet against it and that's what I usually do and I usually do about a hundred dollars in that But I don't say that a table and gamble all night. I just do those bets. Oh, that's like super exciting on one roll That hundred dollars sitting there. I'll do those bets. Oh god. That's super exciting. On one roll, that $100 sitting there. I'll sit for hours at roulette. It's like nothing. And it's stressful.

It's so stressful. Because it's just like, you have many of you're strategizing where you're going to put this, this, and this, or you're going to bet two on the outside. So it's just, it's the most nerve-wracking thing in the world, but it's unbelievably satisfying. You also like war. I don't like war.

I'll play it. So when did war become a casino game? Because it's been there a while. As far as I thought, like war. I don't like war. I'll play it. So when did war become a casino game? Because it's not a while. As far as I thought, like war was like now. Like a game you played as a kid. Yeah. And in fact, if you go back and watch like National Lampoon's Vegas vacation, there's a scene where they go to like a shitty off-strip casino. And like they're playing all these weird not casino games. And one of them is war. Well, it's the first table that the Belagio has. As soon as you walk in, it's just facing you. Because I think it's like trying to target as many people as possible. Because then you'll have casual gamblers who maybe will kind of go in and out. But like, that's what,

you know, pulls them in. I only played it when I went with Aaron Miles' girlfriend to Vegas. Miles was there too. And she she loved the game. Think she won like five or six. Why are you so many people are the same fucking name. It's amazing to me. Yeah, that's confusing You played it also the time I went with you and no Aaron was not there to we had to drag you away from that fucking tape really Because you would keep winning he got to the whole insane and then you would wander off and go lose all your money at the fucking war table I think that was before I learned how to play roulette I'll say this I was playing one time Recently, because I don't know if you bought you playing and there was this asshole who is taking a tweet by the way at

Hashtag. What do you do? This? Rt podcast. I haven't seen hashtag RTE3 for a week now. Go ahead I kept winning and the guy next to me kept losing so the guy got up from his seat and went and like sat down to the right of me Because he fought like oh well this guy's lucky. I'm gonna get on the other side and try to take his look And it's just like hey, that's not gonna help you but be you asshole. Yeah, that's not cool We just like the worst thing about Vegas are other gamblers who take gambling way too seriously Yeah, like when you're at a $10 blackjack table and They will give shit to the new player because they didn't play Blackjack right

Yeah, and took their cards whatever. It's like just sit over there and play your fucking game or go to a higher table Right if you're such a fucking professional and especially makes me mad whenever you go with a girl to Vegas You're trying to try to play Blackjack. She makes a mistake and she gets chastised by someone next to her They're done. They're not going back. They're never gonna go back and gamble again Yeah, I completely agree with you in that sense What I was just saying is the guy just deliberately went and tried to get on the other side of me because he felt like I'm gonna Screw this guy over so he lose it's like that shitty. Yeah It's casino war, but then also you get you would get people who would get mad at that person for changing the table

You know, there's a there's always people who are just like way too superstitious And they're more than willing to share that with you and then you just need to shut the fuck up I'm crazy crazy tables and I'm crazy totally have crazy tables That's like smoking non smoking crazy non crazy. Are you fucking crazy? Yeah, not smoking not crazy. Yeah, cool Or dealers would just go shut your fucking mouth That he said I chastised a guy in a plane a grown man on the plane when where on the way back It's gonna make it actually is in your shot. It's gonna fucking make her mad as hell

What the one that I was on on our plane. Yeah, I we had words with a dude on our plane actually so there she got sterns Yeah, so we put she's saying the guys with dick back so we put our laptops up in The overhead because we carried a lot of laptops e3 I have my normal bag, which my normal laptop and then had this razor and then another production razor and then even another computer, actually, laptop in two bags and we put them up in the overhead bin.

Well, we got in like, you know, we boarded with Group One. So there was a bunch of real boarding after us. And actually, now you're talking and then we realized there's a dude with a carry on and he's standing at our row at our place where the overhead Been is where we put our bags and he's got this carry on bag and he's going like this Gus Like trying to fit it in there jamming it and Ashley goes she says hey, what are you doing? And he just completely Knorr's her and goes and sits down if he finally gets a defeat then we get up

We open the open the overhead been up and he just like our laptops were like in the way So he jammed him back as hard as he could until that bag would fit and so he stood there in the aisle yelling at the guy Like directly yelling I thought I was gonna throw out the plane But it was just like you did or you were sitting yelling yeah I'm the guy sitting in the middle seat like like the aisle over He ignored you or did he actually reply he replied and said did he we sorry? Oh? Oh, I don't know they were laughed at this. Yeah, I was listening to Led Zepp one of the back You were doing I'm sure he knew it was a fucking bag with someone's personal

Belongs. Yeah, you guys are fucking idiots. He fucking cave in Yeah, sitting in a middle seat like a bitch. I was the guy that was in a you were all thinking it fucking furious with this guy I'm so furious. Yeah, I think a lot of people just think they can get away with anything because no one's gonna come from especially like oh I'm on a plane who's gonna cause a scene on a plane. I didn't get it. Like and his demeanor wasn't it was being an asshole or a thing. He just seemed like he was in a rush and he was holding up the aisle. But I stood in the aisle. Yeah, like, I had kind of a weird encounter on the way on my way back from E3 where I like that. I like that. I like that. I had kind of a weird encounter on the way back from E3, where I went to get on the plane.

And I get to my row, and I have the aisle seat, and there's a woman sitting in my seat. So I double check my boarding pass. I'm like, and she looks like she's an off-duty flight attendant. She's a flight attendant. She's just on that plane to get somewhere. And I look at my boarding pass, and I look at her. I'm like, I think you're in my seat.

And she's like, oh, really? I'm like, yeah, 14 seat? She goes, oh, yeah. What seat should I be in? She's like looking around. She's like asking someone, do you have my boarding pad? Where? What is my seat?

And I'm waiting to get out of the aisle. And she's just like, yeah, it's here somewhere. Eventually, she gets up and moves. And then there was already a dude sitting next to her. So I sit down and the dude looks around, he loans over to me and goes, we know you're in the wrong seat, ladies. Get the fuck out of the way, am I right?

Yeah. Fucking beat it. Maybe she didn't even work for the airline. Maybe it's just somebody dressed like a flight attendant thinking no one's gonna question. It was really funny. Because you could tell that dude was a super-season business traveler, like he had had all shit super organized

And I keep it's having none of it. It's funny. I think the worst is as soon as you land everyone's like I never understand that I I don't understand that and then for me they're like Thanks and then like get the fuck out of here The worst the worst is that that the people who get like huffy and I'm like Yeah, like they're you're standing maybe in their way and they could be a foot closer to the door Like I'm going like you want me to sit down? I mean this is fine. I'm we're all stuck here for 10 minutes And there's them cultures too whether it's push they push what yeah Miami when I go visit my my grandmother lived in Miami because I'm from New York and that's what old people do

They go live in Miami when you live there and I would go down the visit. We'd be like in a Supermarket and people would be pushing like they just you're in line. They're pushing like quit pushing with your fucking cart I'm not gonna go any fucking faster another thing that I've noticed in like Florida and Los Angeles as well is if you're at a light and it as soon as turns green funk And it's like that's kind of like stop, you know like they see it's green But uh not always it's an Austin's fucking terrible at it I was I was out of red light that turned green the other day. I was five cars back Nobody was moving and I'm like what's going on?

So I start honking like I'm fucking five cars back. Are you telling me the four cars in front of me are all looking at their fucking phone? Nobody's looking at the goddamn light Four cars in front of me are all looking at their fucking phone nobody's looking at the goddamn light True infuriating. Okay. I know you're right But like I like when say you're in the front car All right say you're in the front car and it turns green and you're like ready to go You're like putting your foot on the gas and then someone hogs behind you that is infuriating. Yeah, that's even worse But there's a fun house employee that does that I'm not gonna say who it is he hogs it every Let's guess. No, no, let's guess who it would be.

Somebody who honks at everybody at every green light, is what you're saying. Yes. Like it's like. I have a guess. Persuading from light green honk. That's the person who does that. Go ahead.

Who you got? Joel. I was just saying Joel Rubin. Bruce. Is it Bruce? Yeah. Okay. My apologies to Joel Rubin.

Yeah. I'm Bruce. I'm sorry for selling you out, but I did notice he's got a nice car to Bruce. But like, as soon as we're at the light, two talents and one, I'm actually gonna be like, come on, I'm just sorry, man. I guess Joel, because I played an online game with him the other day. I was just in Lawrence, but I didn't say Joel. He was just like, on top of it, directing everyone around on the battlefield.

Like, go here, go here. What are you doing? You're fucking up. Do this, do that. It was like awesome he was a big help during the e3 stuff Joel Reuben was because he took over for a lot of the social media stuff and he has you you bitch your lap your iPad he's got the world's slowest iPad I mean I want to give him for Christmas when he give me new iPad just because I got tired of dealing with that one over the course of e3 but he was great my key was one of the people like stepped up and once we did something once he was there every single time to do it the next time. Everybody at E3 was phenomenal.

The fun house guys like Q-chell having those guys there. That was fun. I was like stressed out on my mind but man that was fun. It was a lot of fun. It went really well too. We had like once I hit up on day one where we had a game or we had a because it was a YouTube thing we also had some lecture players mixed in so like different channels and stuff and then we actually explain What we're even talking about here. So for e3 for those of you don't know YouTube had a booth on the floor for the first time ever and they had Rooster Teed host all three days on the show floor Jeff Keely did like the big press conferences On Monday and then we did Tuesday Wednesday. There's a gust. You were there. I was there blame was there

Blame was on a camera ever but he was there the whole time And so we were in charge of scheduling everything and getting the host there. And then YouTube provided the booth and the tech crew and all that other stuff. And we had one go figure was GTA. We had one let's player who came on to play just GTA and it was just like, it was just like technically it was, it was not ready to go. And we stuck with that a little bit longer than we should have trying to fix that problem Because the last thing we want to do was bump a youtuber from that youtube stage But it was like there was we just didn't have a choice at the end of each problem back later Yeah, we actually ended up cutting a podcast on the last day, which totally made sense because

After two days of having podcasts We really had nothing left to say because nothing new was announced Wednesday You know everything was pretty much announced Monday and Tuesday and that was it. Yeah, so it was it was a blast. I mean, that was a lot of fun. We went through. I'm actually can probably tell us, but we went to how many devs like five or six demos a day, and then we had like four or five YouTubers a day too. We even had like, uh, excluses and stuff like that. Uh, actually says 20 game demos across the three days. We were the first to play the new destiny stuff. I mean this gives cool bunch It was awesome. They brought dev kits to the booth so we could play destiny live. It's awesome. Yeah

They and they wired them to their booth they ran like a long network cable What I don't know that It says she saying it was wireless because you can't fake the multiplayer know that. You can't fake the multiplayer. It's that she's saying it was wireless because you can't fake the multiplayer. We don't even know who we're playing against, but they were really fucking good. I look like a jackass. I was playing a warlock on a PS4. Both things I never do. I played Titan on Xbox One and I was just like, I was getting my ass kicked. They weren't screaming. You're screaming though, were they? No, they weren't good. And it was like, I got off

that score screen as fast as I could. I think I have like three kills in the entire match. It was a misery. I got to need a hug. Oh, I was gonna like I got off that score screen as fast as I could. I think I had like three kills in the entire match It was a misery. I got any uh, okay. Oh, I was gonna say I got to play for honor that that knew Ubisoft thing that they announced That game was fucking fun Me Jack and Ashley went to like Ubisoft rented out the Highest or the top floor in the tallest building in LA. I think it's a city bank or US bank US bank building actually what you went to that You mean Katie no jankets was there you were there? Yeah, she was on my team for For Honor. We kicked ass. Oh, where was I? I guess I was something else. Yeah, well

anyway, so we went up there and it was cool because I mean, like at one point me and Jack were looking out just like kind of admiring the you know scenery and stuff like that and a helicopter. We were so high a helicopter passed underneath us. That's awesome. Yeah, it was fucking cool But anyways, for honor was badass and I ended up going 17 and four and I was super proud of that because the other team They didn't have enough guests So they had like two or three devs playing for them and I was still just like a decapitated guy I go ah Oh, so it's like it's like a mmm

It's kind of like a mix of dinosaur warriors Good game. It's a mix of like dinosaur warriors and like smite where it's like you kind of have like these minion smaller players, but then like the other the other players on the other team are like bigger, more built dudes and then it's just there's I don't know it's like battle. There's like parrying and swords and all sorts of shit. What day was it? What day should we do that Monday? What's up?

Did you do that Monday? What's up? You do that Monday? Yeah, maybe I think I did that Monday Monday that would make sense and then because I was at the I went to a really interesting thing is I went to a group of filmmakers and film distributors that were talking about the Ethics of crowdfunding now was Monday in the morning and I don't think I have the liberty to say who was there But it was every like it was a lot of major studios and a lot of major distribution platforms And then some creators as well They talk about it. I'm the real room to be in. I'll say that was that for like E3 or was that like just kind of happened to be just Happened to be at the same time. Oh cool, which was funny because right after we left it, like debating whether or not crowdfunding

is an ethical way to fund movies. Like to basically have pre-orders for movies before you do it. And there was debate and I said, nobody else is having this debate, but you guys. This is like, if you look at video games, I was pointing to E3 down the road. I said, if you look at video games, they have three different ways they crowdfunding.

They have traditional crowdfunding, like Kickstarter, the way the movies do stuff then they also do Pre-orders for all their games as well and then they do early access now those are all like crowdfunding methods You know, I mean as soon as they announced fallout for Sunday night that thing was on sale and sold out pre-orders That's a game that's still in development. I mean it's pretty latent development, but it's still in development And they're already taking money for it. I don't see how that's different and then's still in development. I mean it's pretty late in development but it's still in development and they're already taking money for it. I don't see how that's different and then the point really was driven home because Sony announced the Shenmue kickstarter and then two days later they said

oh we're funding the game. I don't I don't get that. No they were saying even two was like three or four days later it was weird. I think once they get high enough like Meg did a whole story on it with, who did the story with Meg today, Ash? You know? Oh gosh, you did it? I guess. Yeah, so that's going to be posted soon if it's not reposted on the know. What do you think about that?

It's shady, you know, especially because they, and we talk about this in the start, please watch it if you haven't yet. During the press conference and during the Kickstarter, all the language that was used was very consumer-focused. Like if the fans don't fund this, we can't make it. It's the fans. You know, we need you to support us. We can't do it without you. And then you know, once they get to three million dollars like, oh yeah, we really need ten and it's cool because Sony's giving us some money. So after during the press conference Sony had said that they weren't involved. It comes around that they are actually involved in the game. Yeah, that's like that was in place. When we were covering this even during the E3 coverage at one point,

you know, I think we were burning. I were talking about Shenmue 3. I think it was the two of us. We were talking between segments. Yes, me what I thought about it. I said, no, it's like I said $2 million seems like a weird goal for this game. If it doesn't seem to me, like you can make this game for $2 million. I don't know why that number is set to that. Oh, here we find out they really want 10 million.

Well, yeah, it's possible though. Sony was like, we're not going to fund this unless we know that there's a actual interest in this game. And that's how they they could have framed it that way. They could have upon the fans to show your interest to show that you want this game made. Yeah, don't be disingenuous. Yeah, I get that. I mean, like we've learned a lot before we ran our crowdfunding campaign for our thing, we learned a lot about backlash. So we're always really careful about what we've said about the project. Like we said, we're going to make this movie, we want your help to make it as good as we possibly can. You know, they didn't say we're making Shenmue get on board right now. You know, what they did was what a lot of people do is they're using crowdfunding

to test the market Is there interest in this thing and I don't that just makes it harder for other people to actually crowdfund projects Original projects and it's not just video games. I mean they do with movies all the time Veronica Mars like all the money went to Warner Brothers from that thing It was a Warner Brothers crowdfunding effort essentially and what really amazes me is artist, like what's the name of the guy from Shenmue? Su Yuzuki. So he's basically putting his reputation in his name on the line, knowing.

Yuzuki. You know, knowing that Sony's gonna back this thing and knowing that Sony's gonna be the financial back end of this whole thing, that basically, if it fails, it looks like he failed at his Kickstarter. And if he is successful All the money goes to Sony to then pay to make his game It's like I don't see what the upside is from the crowdfunding aspects for you know what I mean

I mean if that was the only option they gave him it's like you either do this our way and you take the hit or we're not gonna do it at all It's an argument that it's it's a tough position You know you want to get your projects made no matter what. This is one of the toughest things in the industry to get your project made. And what do you laugh at? What's your laugh at that? Oh, blame the show. Someone drew a blame on the show.

I'm not trying to quick aside to work. I'm not trying to justify it. All I'm saying is at the end of the day, if you're picking between those two things, it's understandable. I think I'm a pex. Perfect. So happy.

I'm not saying what they did. It's so happy. Anderson blinks mildly when he sees a photo of himself or a picture of himself. Yeah, I'm not debating it. I'm not saying what they did was was either right or wrong either because they're trying to get their projects made. But it just seems like the artist would be like, the him. I'm just like, I'm taking 100% of the risk and very little of the upside of this. Like, if it falls flat, they fall flat on their face. The artist does. I mean, that's for the super troopers guys the Veronica Mars you know what I mean if it gets zero dollars over the course of 30 days that's a really tough thing to have

to deal with. Who's Paris go. Full screens Paris go. Who? It's life's about risk. Life is about risk. Life is about risk. Huh?

Life is about risk. If you're going to take a risk on yourself. Yeah, here feels about right. If you're gonna take a risk, take a risk on yourself. Yeah, here's the thing. If you're seeing a crowd funnett thing for already released project, like the IP already existed, the sequel or something like that, it's probably not owned by the artist at that point. That shit is probably already sailed, you know? And the other thing too is like,

they present this Kickstarter, this crowd funnett thing. I guarantee that the thing will only be on PlayStation. That will not appear on the Xbox and it probably most likely will not appear on the PC. I don't know. Shenmue 2 did get ported to the original Xbox. Shit. Well, Shenmue 2 did, but this one's being backed by Sony and everything else, right? With this crowdfunding there.

Who knows? Who knows? Then they had a weird statement, which we also cover in the video, was, was Due to contractual obligations. They cannot disclose who has contributed money to the project what what the fuck are you? Is that a spy movie? Yeah, let's video games being secret because they don't want to give the information out Yeah, you know, they cannot give it out but like name another crowd from the game that didn't come out on PC Almost every crowd fun a game to date is for the PC or for mobile. You don't cry. People don't typically crowdfund console games, it just doesn't happen. Well, how soon do pre-orders go out for console games, like even the games?

A year? It can be a long time. In some days. Do you think that the joke guy had a pre-order for... In earlier, I think. Yeah, he had a pre-order that was like 10 years old when the game came out. Do you think developers will put in more resources if the pre-orders reaches certain amount where they're like all right Well, we already know people have bought into this point We can you know we have the money or we can like buy and do more more of the stuff

I think the ship has sailed on pre-order. I think that's an established part of The like culture of the games. I just think it's there. Well, what about the perks like the fallout thing when games stop and all the retail stores go away, but until then it won't go away. Yeah, right. It was as a 10 year old pre-order for Duke Newcombe. If they did an IndieGoGo or Kickstarter for Half Life 3, would you contribute just so they would be fucking made? Probably not. Maybe. I mean, it all depends on the perks too. Like, if there's a cool perk to Valor something like that Yeah, I know it sounds ridiculous what I just want that game to be made you get a team fortress to hat with your with your backing I don't mind they tell you not to pre-order games like people tell you don't do it

But I don't mind pre-ordering why do people not want you a pre-order well a lot of developers don't want to do that because the retail stores Will use the pre-order numbers to determine how many copies of the game to order. Instead of doing an actual market analysis or taking a risk on a title that, you know, the audience isn't aware of. That's why you have like Call of Duty 15 ends up with a huge midnight launch and a new IP like Horizon, which looks fucking badass

on the PS4. Well, because not as many people are gonna preorder horizon. But everyone's gonna get the new Call of Duty on preorder because they don't want to not have it on launch day. They want to have their special gun or map. Yeah, and when they've, when I've done in the past, they've said, well, we're only gonna have a couple like on launch day that aren't for preorders.

So it's like, at some point they might be intentionally or at least telling you that they're not gonna. Yeah, I'm sure they've been doing that for a while. That's why I'm glad that you can just download games now. I've been kind of out of the gaming loop for a while now just because I've been busy with like school and then now work. But I remember when I used to go to GameStop the day of a launch the titles launch and I'd say all right let me get this game and they would say sorry you didn't pre-order. That was infuriating. Did they still do that? I don't, I download all my games now.

Oh, okay. Yeah, they just happen to me all the time though. Yeah. And I would get so mad, like, what do you mean? Like, the game is out. I'm here with money, okay? I'm not, I'm not a bitch, but I will throw fit and I used to throw fit whenever that happened.

I'd be like, you were a fucking game- So pre-order is only two. Oh, or five dollars? Are they still just five dollars? For computers? Yeah. Doesn't matter. If I wanted to get in the day of. I pre-order I'm the day of I pure nothing like bio shock for instance when that first came out I didn't really know anything about it and then I heard like day one that it was like the greatest game ever

Went to game stop and you fucking have it and it was like you guys suck Yeah, did you know it's got to like kill all that stuff Yeah, you would just go home and download it now. Yeah, like I bought Physical games when the Xbox one of the ps4 launch like with them like thinking I had to play those I have to buy the games to play I got home. It's like, oh, I'm stupid Like why did I buy these? I could just go me do that. I could just download it Yeah, a lot of people do this comedian. This was my old complaint back with the Xbox 360 was having to swap out games Yeah, I'm you're saying wait. I hate putting stuff on already sitting down

You like back when I had cable cable and something like back to the future will pop up and you have to watch it with commercials and stuff edited out. And I'd be like, I guess I can just go get my DVD and put it in and watch that. I was like, yeah, I'm already here. I'm already here. I told you not too long ago, like Game of Thrones season four

came in on Blu-ray and I remember getting it. And you're like, yeah, there's something sexy about physical media. And you're like, you're right, Brandon. You're not, you're totally going against that. I didn't say there's nothing sexy about it. I'm just saying, I there's something sexy about physical media and like you're right Brandon you're not your totally going against that. I didn't say there's nothing sexy about it I'm just saying like I'm just something sexy about it. Yeah I I agree I'm just lazy about it. Especially like the things that are put together Shenmue 3 Kickstarter says that it'll be available on PC as well.

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No. I don't know if, whether you want a T-shirt to sign up for them. There's no way he would have signed up for it. A free T-knife, thanks. No. I was trying to explain to somebody the day that the conventions that you and I used to go to, Gus, before our careers in the video game industry.

Our old career? Yeah, our old careers, like yours was in promotional items. Yeah. And some professional items. Tellcom, with me as well. We would go to those conventions and like those show floors were a, they were a misery. It was a misery to be on a show floor.

Would, especially if you were working a booth, were they like crowded or? No, there's not nothing. Like do you imagine? They're for like eight hours talking. You're trying to get someone's attention who's just trying to walk by so you're basically one of those Keyes exactly

Yeah, I imagine a convention center filled with mall kiosk that's like most convention floors alike Can I interest you in outsourcing services? No, okay? You was fucking cool. There's stuff everywhere. They have to give out stuff to get people come to visit people and give away anything at E3 I got a pin from Xcom Oh, I got the pvp years Xcom 2 looks great Did you see it actually? No, I didn't go to see how's a pug sniffing But it's not in the books. It's fun. Is it good independent game?

How was it? It just you know, okay? Everyone read out for you. How can you not play this game? No, it's just when you're watching it It does not like I don't understand what's appealing of the gameplay the controller seems awesome. There's nothing with a good thing It's just fun. Okay. It's like you you play a pug and you steal powers from another pug by significant spot I'm all for and then you use the powers to interact with the world and get different different things Did you put your did you put your face in the the pug? But no, but I Just because it seems like a lot of people are touching that and i don't have a face on it

that's a good for your face no no no we have to hit it right you have to hit it said one i talked to one of the developers and he said that the way they originally expected out was that you press both buttons down and press the but that way you would have to use your face to smash it on the but uh... but first shows obviously they want to keep it a little clean. And between every person who used the system, he'd like to try to sanitize it.

Use some lice-all and some wipes to clean it all down. Yeah, that is going to be on the pre-order list. Wait, so do you have to use that controller? Do you have to buy that controller if you want to get the game? Well, it's all still like, it's not a done game. It's kind of like a proof of concept. Oh, it's not like coming out in a few months? No, I don't think so.

The guy said that they were still working on it trying to build a flesh out more content for it. That's depressing. I want to be surprised if you could get butts in if it pugs. What was the coolest game that you guys saw? Butt in if it pugs. Yeah, but listen, I feel like I've talked about this a million times But the HoloLens administration for Halo. They're boner for all was the real fucking deal. That was amazing

You know, we're talking about Lydia I got a burp. I'll be right back What back all right? Thank you The we're talking about Lydia who gave the Microsoft Mo Yang presentation I don't think maybe you'll who gave the Microsoft Mo Yang presentation. I don't think maybe you'll know you have ever heard Mo Yang pronounced correctly. What we typically call Mojang, the makers of Minecraft. Lydia did the presentation for HoloLens.

Lydia was hired at Mojang, Mojang four years ago. She was a YouTuber making videos. Did she talk about that in her presentation? She did. Yeah. Okay. She went from four years ago being a YouTuber fan making videos,

to them being hired by notched to be their community person or the director of fun. To then, she's now on stage giving the show stealing presentation of the entire conference. Yeah, she mentioned during the conference, during her speech that it was four years ago at E3 that she met them for the first time and she showed a picture like outside. It's really awesome. And so they did the demonstration and you go look at the HoloLens

demonstration that did for the press conference. You can't see the Halo one, that's the idea right there. You can't see the HoloLens demonstration that they did, but that was amazing. That was behind closed doors. I went at eight in the morning with Gav and Meg and Covec and we went. And also Lawrence came, but he couldn't get in, because we only had four slots. And I kept telling Kovic that, but Lawrence came anyway just to get a shot, and then Lawrence didn't talk to me for like half the day. Oh, that's awesome. That sounds awesome.

That's fucking so. I was worried about it, but this is the HoloLens. We're showing video on screen. You can look it up online if you're listening to audio version. We're they transfer this Minecraft experience to the table and they have the camera set up as though it has HoloLens. This is actually what it looked like where it was like this image that was just like 3D in front of you. And for the Halo demonstration, it was so smart the way they started it because you were in a deck, a set that they built that looked like a UNSC capital ship. And then they put the HoloLens on you and it says, you need to go to the briefing room.

And the way you get to the briefing room is, the first thing that happens is the waypoint comes up on your screen and you just follow the waypoint. And then you reach the waypoint, it's arrows going this way and you can turn, it's just awesome. And it's the real deal. I mean it was like I was looking at a hologram and I realized I have a headset on with a little like visor that has a special viewport that is doing that illusion but it looks like there's a hologram commander Palmer pacing around in front of me about this tall you know in front of me on the hexagonal briefing table giving me my orders. It was awesome. It was an amazing experience. I ran to you that morning at the outside of our hotel

And I have my headphones in I do this thing where I have like very selective hearing so like I heard my name And I was just like I got too many things to do right now to talk to anybody and ended up being Bernie and I was like oh hey Bernie like hey man, I'm in Holland's and I was like oh, I got a I got Gavin's wristband and I handed it to you And you immediately sprinted and we had there was like there's like a half mile until the convention center and you read I watch you and you immediately sprinted and there was like a half mile until the convention center and you ran, I watched you run the entire way. Yo, yeah, I was running for Gav, yeah. I was trying to get there in time

because they were already messed up. Yeah, there was a thing where they were like, telling me my spot was gone. I was like, I'm 15 minutes to my slot is even up. And so I was like, they're not kicking me out of this thing. So I ran all the way to the convention. You literally ran the whole entire way. Literally ran the entire way. I will.

In five years. In five years, how popular do you think that technology's going to be? Like on a consumer level. porn. I think the AR will be more ubiquitous than VR. I like it more because people still see your environment. Exactly.

And it's additive. It's not replacing. Right. And then the augmented reality type or same with HoloLens yeah, the people to the the lady from PT in their living room They're like if this happens. I'm just I'm out of here Well, I said did you see the video of like the people's reactions with the more fiesta demo? There was a more fiesta horror game. What was it?

It was a called Tuesday. Do you know remember? Kitchen I don't remember something like that Kitchen is either Tuesday or Kitchen is a horror thing. I think it was kitchen But they would show people with the Morpheus on I mean just like freaking out like flailing like Clong at the faces. Yeah, it's like So I do I do not want anything to do with a horror game

With a VR AR headset. At some point that's going to like Cause health problems like it's just too real And you're just too terrified and you can't get away from it because it's like in your face. Well, Kovic came out and he was like, does anyone else's neck hurt my neck hurts? You keep talking about it neck hurts. He's like an hour.

So it has hurt the rest of the day. Yeah, so it's a bit of a react negatively to it. I'm sure people have been saying that though forever. Like whenever you see like a new way to interact with stuff, they're like, oh that'll have a, I'll make you give a heart attack. Like when movies first came on, you see like a vampire like actually on the screen.

Like, oh that'll, well it's tough. I mean, if you ever looked at the way the connect works, it's a little frightening. Something in authority. So look at, look at, look at, look at videos on YouTube of a connect a with night vision on. And if you look at like a,

oh is it some Morpheus demo? Yeah, it's cool. Oh shit. We like a uh... always some orpheus yes or reactions to a more fiest and i have to be much for me she looks like she's trapped in that thing probably here this is a hostage video at the top lighting and so i don't know she looks horrible you

just know escape all i can think of is i want to put that on paul's head and What you ever got I got a moth in my ear one time And I was outside mone along there's all these moths and one of my fucking ear and it was alive and it couldn't get out And there's nothing worse than the feeling of like you hear this a horrible flapping buzzing Inside your own ear and then you're so used to like covering your ear to block the noise But that does nothing because like literally nothing to change it whatsoever it was awful. You probably look like a crazy person to your neighbors.

I was like, what happened? What happened was I would be like, okay, I'd be like, all right, here's the deal. There's a mop in my ear and it's like it freaks out every now and then and when it does it really? And then like, like mid-ssend it I would start flailing and going, because the moth would just like be okay and then it would freak out and start to flap in my ear. Oh, it's horrible. But my neighbor was like brilliant. I was trying to get it

out with tweezers and he's like, no, no, hold on. And he ran to his house, ran back and he just got a bottle of alcohol and just dumped it in my ear and killed them. Oh. And then I went and like he pulled it out with the pair of tweezers, the dead body. I still went to the emergency room anyway, just to have my ear checked out. And he said there were like little parts and dust in there. So he flushed my ear out with like a syringe. That was the loudest sound of her.

It was amazing. So he was stuck in there. It's not like he didn't know how to get out. I know I think it was he couldn't get out because he had room to flap and stuff. Okay. Yeah. He's gonna just in your brain. He's so cool. No, he's really horrible. Can you turn the lights off and just get a flashlight?

He'll be like, hey, go over there. I'll be shining on his butt. Well, if he was a mosquito and he started to like just sucking the blood out of your... I think I would have preferred that. I think I would have preferred the mosquito to the like meaty, flappy sounds of a thing. Oh.

It was, it was no small moth. It was, it was no small moth. It was, it was, it was, enough to, like jam in my ear canal. We're talking about. What are we talking about? We were talking about something. We're talking about augmented reality, virtual reality.

Oh, you guys, yeah, you're, you're hollow in the experience. Well, I saw some AR stuff where you used to hold up your phone, like with Google Maps, it would label all the things on the streets. Yeah. Here all those stuff was. Here all those things. Here all those things. Here all those things. Here all those things. Here all those things. Here all those Yeah, here all those subways they were that to like go up here to get to the sub yeah

But I never saw those applications in real life the most AR thing that we've had and we've had it forever guys Is that amazing application called word lens? Yeah that you hold up to a sign in a foreign language and it translates to sign to English Yeah on the camera so as you like move around it looks like a picture But all the words are being translated a Google acquired them And I think that's part of Google translate now. That's been around for eight years, I feel like at this point. I know we were talking about this on the podcast in the Congress office.

Yeah, I can see that he's full in Google Glass. Like that to me makes sense. But like walking around like this, it's just gonna do it. No one does. If you're in a foreign country and you can't fucking read a goddamn thing, I guarantee you you'll do that.

You know why I know people walk around like this? It's a meter foreign country and we'll find out. I give why people walk around holding their phone out in front of me like this and I know they'll do that brand-in. Why? Because I've watched everybody playing fucking Fallout Shelter for the last week and a half at this point. Are you sheltering?

I'm sheltering. You don't need to talk so much at it. You don't have like five. How many people are in your vault? What's that? How many people in your vault? Uh, I could check. Let me find out. I heard all they do is just hump all day. You can set that up. I wonder if people are in your fault. What's that? How many people in your fault? I could check.

Let me find out. I heard all they do is just hump all day. You can set that up. One of my babies is growing to a healthy daughter. So that probably puts me at 75? Oh, I did your complaint about all these other people playing. I'm just saying everybody walks around with the God damn. They're phoning their hands, playing full of shelter.

It's great game. We're even at the airport and like, oh, I've never been there. Put the nice club section. I was like eating my cookies And there's a guy that are memories talking about fallout. He's like, yeah, I was looking over shelter He's like on the phone with his friend. Yeah, he's just older duty look like he was like many 60s He's like yeah, try to get the pit boy edition, but they're out of that So I bought it off eBay for like 400 bucks Jesus and then right after that conversation

I saw that they released more of the pit boy additions Oh, have you played it all while you're in your car? Drive what I tried to but they were also that about the time actually At okay, I got one. There's a kind of now that actually is off mic. I have a couple bones picked with miss Ashley Jenkins and you can go up here and defend yourself if you want but actually We were at E3. This is last week, okay? So the last episode of Game of Thrones had happened the Sunday before that We were at E3. This is last week. Okay. So the last episode of Game of Thrones had happened the Sunday before that.

The Game of Thrones, the ninth episode was the Sunday before that. And because I realize she had to get ready for E3. Before she had to get ready for E3, we hadn't watched the episode of Game of Thrones. And then I revealed when we were out for drinks the first night of E3 that I had went ahead and watched the ninth episode of Game of Thrones without her Gus she got furious with me like glidgettimily furious with me look at Brandon shaking his head No, it's just like you can't afford not to I've been in the same position. It's like well. I can't I'm sorry I understand it you fucked up by letting it slip though. I know I did keep keep your ducks in a row I really did I really fucked up, but we still haven't watched it I've been wanting to sit down and watch it with her And she's like no

To see what do you want to do it. Is she looking at me? Plenty of time last night. We can watch the last thing we can watch the future You watch back to the future. We did for Father's Day I watch my my kids had never seen Jurassic Park or back to the future So we sat down and watch both of those did you take him to Jurassic World? No, we were talking about Jurassic World So that's how it got in the discussion of Jurassic Park. So we just sat down and watched both of those. Did you just take them to Jurassic World? No, we were talking about Jurassic World. So that's how it got in the discussion of Jurassic Park. So we just sat down and watched Jurassic Park. Dude, they were enthralled.

They were just like, that movie is now 23 years old, and they were just like enthralled. It's turned out, it made 22 years old. Back to the future, Jurassic Park. A Jurassic Park, does part. Yeah. Back to the future's particularly funny, especially back to the future two,

because it's 2015, where they predict all the stuff in 2015. It's so funny to hear like all their predictions, you know like resizing codes flying cars hologram jaws all that stuff. Oh good weather program. What was the good weather? Oh wait, when it's gonna start the weather Yeah, we had a thing last Last week where it was like a tropical storm is gonna hit Austin Adam Beard sent an email everybody's gonna get home by this time Then we get home by this time, then we get home and nothing happens. It illustrates like how unreliable

this whole industry, yeah. You have to admit, it is rained for the last 50 days in Austin. I know the first day in 50 days that it has rained. I'm saying it was like, this is gonna be like a huge storm. Like you gotta get, you gotta get home, you be like a huge storm. Like you got to get you got to get home You got to hurt it was a tropical depression that became a tropical storm and then made landfall in June in Texas Yeah, that doesn't fucking happen. Yeah, it was even when we were you know

We were in LA when this happened. I was getting alerts on my phone like the Austin area forecast to get more rain That expected for a tropical storm bill. Yeah, this is picture someone posted on Reddit at about 9pm that night and it was just a screenshot of one of the most crowded highways in Austin and no one was on it. And not a drop in the skies. What's the other bone I have to pick with actually? What was the other thing? Well clearly she's looking at me so mad on screen. Sassy.

Sassy. I'm upset with you now for going to the Ubisoft thing and not even telling me what the Ubisoft thing and I can invite you. Payback. You were with Gavin Mac. Where was I with Gavin Mac? I'm upset with you now for going to the Ubisoft thing and not even telling me what the Ubisoft thing and I get a bite that you Back Where was I with Kevin Mac? She was oh, no no we had a whole company you coming up here get up here and then what was the thing I get mad at you about? What was the other thing that we had we were talking about something and there was two things It's how I get to get mad at you for getting one pit boy instead of two? Oh, yeah

So here's the other thing where she gets mad at me about is I Get on Amazon. I get on Amazon. I say I'm getting a pit boy fallout for and she goes she goes She goes what would you say you said oh, oh, that's what you said and Oh, means also by me one and I didn't know that so I didn't buy her one They sold out and then she blinks because me because you know you pre-ordered one I put her one you said I got one I said did you get one for me? No that was not what you said yeah, I said did you get me one you said no And I said huh Meaning yeah do it. I want I want to pick boy too. I wouldn't this fight

I asked you if you got one. Whatree-R. What are you both going to use it for? Nothing. I was like, I mean, you could put it in your house. I get it, but what the two of you? Well, she wanted one for the patch, so. You can have mine. You can have mine. No, I don't get so upset with me.

Actually, I had a great run. That's my brother. Oh, yeah, I'll get it. We just spent like, what? A week and a half together, not being a part. I thought we hadn't been a part more than five minutes and a half, but apparently you're off to the Ubisoft event like watching helicopters.

Apparently you're off like hanging out with people. What was I doing? I have no idea. Where's Meg? She's fine. It's fine. It's fine. You were with you were with Gavin Meg you're coming back from four oh you were coming back from Sony. Doctor Phil. Because we didn't we didn't finish setting up in time to get to the Sony. Oh so I was work in we were doing the Sony stream with the funhouse guys now it all makes sense and they're all like do do do look at that helicopter wish mom and dad would stop fine you are not the father you did a great job at E3 you killed it blame don't you agree oh yeah definitely blame is MVP blame had the best spreadsheet in the world what was the spreadsheet

I've never seen the spreadsheet that awesome the best spreadsheet in the world. What was the spreadsheet? I've never seen a spreadsheet that awesome. The one with all the, what we were doing. Oh, she was awesome. That was you? Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, to be fair, I stole it. We actually got a show director in, who specializes in events like that.

Rob Talbert. Rob Talbert, who is awesome. And he, like, I took his template and then added like five more columns. There's a two shot of us. They don't ever make it. I was like wow, that's We don't watch this Oh, you turn your back on me. I see how it is. They did that for you and I I'm going to fight one day. Oh, yeah Let's go to think our sponsor razor. I do actually want to think razor because razor like we just said hey

Is there any way we could get some computers for the booth? And they literally just came back and said, wait, guys need, and we said, could we get this? And they like, sure. And they just sent us laptops. Razor's awesome when it comes to that stuff. They've always been really, really good to us. They're great. They got good products here. Yeah. They were live, Sarah. We ended up running a couple of the different games like the Let's Plays and Stuff off of that laptop right there. It was awesome.

I'm sorry. I didn't want to give a throans with you. I really am. I want to apologize. Kiss and make up in front of everybody. Kiss and make up. No. No. We're not fighting. This is the fight. Kiss and make up. Are you legitimately mad? I'm a little bit disappointed because it was something that we've done every episode together. I was working super, super hard on E3 and you just, you didn't wait for me. I did, though. I did wait. I just watched it before I waited. I'm still waiting to watch it with you. That matters.

All right. So if you think, if you think Bernie is right, then dial. I'm going 555-429. Let me read this out. Look at this, Ashley. You make Gus do an Adam. I'm going to do an Adam. I hope you're happy.

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Blame was warned. Blame was describing on the trip how some of his underwear is so thread bear that like the elastic shows through the band. Actually didn't even understand that. That's not a thing that you can do. I mean, my reign, we talked about it. Someone else had the same problem, but I was wearing torn underwear, which wasn't that big a deal, but I also happened to be wearing torn jeans

in the exact same place. And I remember just chilling and then looking down and being like, see my testicles. Oh, dude. I would probably use these. Did you have hair poking out? I have no idea. Maybe it was Chris and maybe those Chris was in the same position I'm not the only one that this has happened if you're sharing company with Chris

You got a really question what you doing with your life. Yeah, that's true Yeah, so really fitting underwear a lot a lot of people on Twitter are they say that actually is all wrong So the birdie's right and Ashley is not right and she shouldn't get mad at them. That's something that she's not. These are the people there. To be in the quote. That's a quote. I just read what's that? These are people there tweeting at you. Not actually.

No, they're using the hashtag. Uh huh. One of them said, oh, Bernie's totally right. And she shouldn't get mad at me. I mean him. I'm also getting take you a lump to Bernie Burns. So are we going to watch the last episode of Game of Thrones? Yes. When are we going to do that episode of Game of Thrones? Yes. When are we gonna do that? Tonight.

Don't spoil for actually on Twitter. You can use it in your phone. Now that you said that, do not get on your phone. I'm telling you, you want to. I've already been spoiled. It doesn't make me not want to watch it. And it doesn't make me not want to watch it with you. Brandon, before she got up here, you were all talk.

You were like, I totally agree with you, Bernie. And then she got here and you're just like in this like sideways smirk face It's not my fault no I agree with I say the whole thing say the whole thing The right just because it's like I Normally I would agree that you should wait But it's like in this world especially at this company you cannot afford not to see something maybe I feel like on the part he watched part of anyone Wanted dad to contain the spoiler you know you had already been spoiled I've read the books too, but I didn't want to like So I was talking with someone

I was talking with Kirk And we were talking about the, I think the final episode of Game of Thrones. Don't, okay, go ahead. No, no, no, no. We recorded a supplementary audio podcast with Paul Schier, which is actually going to brag about. Is going to air right after this, not in the live.

I can't believe I missed him. He's awesome. He's super cool. Listen to the audio version of this, or if you're watching this on YouTube, you can go download our podcast on iTunes. You can hear the supplementary portion of the pause here. But what we're waiting to record, I was talking about the Game of Thrones finale with Michael and with Paul Fier and Kirk.

And we found out that Kirk hadn't seen the final episode yet. I was like, oh, I don't want to, I don't want to, you guys shouldn't see the last couple of episodes. I don't want to, I said I don't want to talk about it for you. I don't want to spoil it for you. He was like, oh, don't worry, I've read the books. I was like, that's not a defense anymore, man. You, things are so different now in the show.

In a lot of respects. Have you read all the books? Yeah. How many times do you think you've asked me that on the podcast? I don't know. I'm sure that you've read the fan monster. Yeah, I want to see the montage of Bernie S. if I've read the books.

And please auto-tune it. I'm not going to keep track. Yeah, I've been over for you. Do it to it, but that was kind of fucked up That was a little bit of strength. I'll still work triceps Blaine you're so weak Chris podcast mom So we recorded some a lot podcast. Let's play this is a little housekeeping since you said how to watch the podcast

We recorded some podcasts let's place Chris is one where play with your mom came out this week Next week should be part two of contagion. It's the couple's podcast, but I don't know if we're gonna have a couple's podcasts. Next week. Oh no, you have to. This is the perfect time. You just need a couple of couples.

So don't pull in one of us. If it's any consolation or at this whole, you know, back and forth, you guys were a great team at each other. We were awesome. I thought so too. We stayed up until like 3 or 4 a.m. working on the next day's schedule and you guys, you powered through and I was so proud. That night.

Go ahead. That was a moment between the three of us. Go ahead. That was the third of us. We did not have a third. I did not think that's where you're going. No, that's where I thought. But you guys did a great job and I was like, wow, that's just power couple, man.

Like I expect to see you guys at the gym spotting each other. I thought we were going to do that. Is that your dream, Blaine? you want to have a girl who is spot you at the gym blame what you really? Fantastic producer. I've actually heard that If you have a girl sit on you while you do In press you're you get more because of the testosterone Where yeah, I was like I felt the desire to impress Like, is it the dish or?

No, you know, like just sit on my Are you saying it's the pheromones? You're laying down, you don't have a lap anymore She's straddling you, it's what she's doing You're dick Why don't you just sit in my lap? I don't know, it's pretty cool though If you have a female trainer, don't want you want to press that person anyway,

I mean without the straddling or the straddling just add another layer to it. I think the straddling just adds another layer to it. It's just more personal experience before the actual. What's the whole time you got laid? Nope. Nope. What are you talking about that? Nope.

What? What are you talking about that? What is this Gavin? Look, things happen happened something happened last week Press with a lady. Yeah, I've been pressed with a lady It happens over So I think my favorite thing that we done the stage was have Rocco out there for megastix four Oh Rocca's awesome or and people keep fucking asking about that a lot of people are sure

from the whistle project but it's when we're you want to explain it to be explained uh... yeah i don't know he came up to talk about import games that will never be imported to the u.s. but you long didn't read the whole thing is that rock of from megastix four is he's a slow adult he's retarded

uh... that's the basic thing but he uh... no raco has a very specific sense of humor and guss and i really appreciate his sense of humor and not everybody does not everybody does it was it was fucking right the same people who are in the amount of the same but it was funny but exact same group of people there were people who were very very upset about

him being on the e3 stage. That was my favorite part. Why? Because I watched it like slowly, just sunken to his chair. I loved that part. We were, first of all, because it was a nice long segment, so he had a couple minutes to breathe between running around, organizing people for the next one. But then the moment he sat there watching it, it was, every moment was golden. He was, he didn't break character the entire time. He's pro. No, he he will never. He listen, he can outlast anybody, especially the more

humiliating the situation, Rocco is bottomless, but he's shameless. He can go to any scenario and he will not give up. Yeah, he can outshame you for certain. So we said, Gus and I had fun with it. Yeah, we were totally used used to it like the whole thing about sliding down his chair not to give you too much of like how the sausage is made but actually when they went to one of his clips I showed him tweets saying every time we cut back the guys further down his chair he went all the way down at that time he was on the floor he read that tweet he was all the way down he was hilarious though you just got to have an appreciation for it it's like people, people just, I guess they think that E3 is sacred, and there can't be anything like goofy and fun.

Like, he was defiling the effort. It was a fucking blast. Yeah. And behind the cameras, there was a huge gathering of people, and they were just glued to the screens, watching Rocco. It was funny. But even the cackelings. Yeah, Meg was laughing.

I don't know if they came across on the microphones that we were holding, but Meg was laughing. Yeah. Well, I mean like, I don't know if that came across on the microphone. So we were holding but you know, Meg was laughing. Yeah, well, I mean the whole production crew got really into it as well. Like the close-up cam and just they rolled the same trailer a couple of times and they kept bringing up his lower third. Yeah, they're like, let's bring up his lower third and CV notices. He wasn't rock. Yeah, and then like I kept looking around like I was confused at the screen like, what is that strailer? And then my I've be there like don't worry We're you know they asked us to do this. I was like, I know. I know it's okay. It's okay I got camera. They did a really rolling with it. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was good. It's fun effort

Taylor Stone drew you and Paula wearing a VR headset. Oh That's realistic Punches me a lot. You look at Homer Simpson. Go. You slow him out. A skinny one. Sorry, Freddie. Oh, I love the guy. Yeah, skinny one.

I once had a trainer tell me that I was skinny fat. That wasn't cool. Fuck, that's me. That's me. He was actually one of the guys that was probably at our, the South by Southwest podcast we did at the, what was that called? On it.

On it? No no it was at the MMA yeah was that the Joe Rogan one yeah it was just like this one jerk to us and I didn't realize that that was the guy until after I already signed up for his class he was probably taking out on you because you went around that whole time just mean like you guys bring it down a bit. It was like, do you burn a party? Yeah, that was awesome. That was awesome. Yeah, I'm skinny fat, so thank you.

I mean, I would consider myself skinny fat too. Like, I don't consider myself overweight. I'm just really like what I've got is very squishy. Actually, actually, it's not the weirdest fitness routine ever. Like, she'll take time off like two or three months since you won't do anything with it. Then she just gets on the treadmill and just runs eight miles. Like, that's just a thing. She just runs eight miles, which you guys are running three months. It's like, who does that? If I were in eight miles, I would be dead. I'd be laying there dead. Get them in. How far can you run?

Point. Farthest of Ghana is 10K. 10K. So that's like six miles. Six miles, six and two. That's going to be more. That's going to be really seven. I can comfortably run it, 10k. Really? Yeah, it's just 6.2, 10 kilometers. Oh man, sorry. I gotta go like three miles, then I gotta go like five miles. I gotta build up 10.

I go like three miles. Yeah. I love you guys on treadmill and see how far you can go. The pug can outrun me and that'll ask me. Well, what you do is you just, first of all, get some TV up on the treadmill. That helps. I started watching Brooklyn 9.9, so funny.

And that just makes you want to knock off. Blaine had a boy right there, and he just dropped it. What's your point? Oh, I've started to listen, Spotify has this new thing where it's the running feature, and basically it tracks how many steps per minute you have. And then it makes music based off of that. It's the best thing ever.

Oh, it's awesome. It's fucking great. It fits the hips to be. Yeah, and you can do different genres. You can do epic and cinematic. You can do different genres. You can do genres. And then you can do working gardens.

Nailed it, guys. What's your favorite genre? Fuck. Yeah, it's pretty cool. You should try it. When you run on the treadmill, guys. Hey, Brandon, I think out of this group, you might be the only person who could take the devil's

advocate position With speaking of Spotify what Apple's doing with their trial or was doing with the trial For their Apple music service. Did you hear about that? Oh, they put you to on the uh, they just announced after the whole Taylor Swift thing that they will pay artists for appearing on their trial trials, so they'll pay them doing the trial period, but they weren't going to. They were going to have the whole trial period. And during that time, artists wouldn't make any rules. Well, here's the thing. The song's serving.

But they have to never said that. Apple said we're having a three month trial. Then behind the scenes they're telling artists, you won't be paid for three months. So it's like, what Apple's acting like a good guy, having a trial for free, when really it doesn't affect them really in any way besides maybe some data servicing costs and that's about it. But the and everyone's like well the artists will make more money down the road.

But that's not what it's about. It's about Apple trying to get market share in an already existing market and they're trying to get and they're going to use the artists to buy them into that. When Apple has more cash than any company on the planet right Gus? Yeah, but how do you get a bunch of cash by not fucking spending it? Yeah, it's gonna be serious here. I think I think it was all kept. They don't buy Apple products. It was all planned. It was all calculated fucking publicity. You think it was? Absolutely. I'm a pessimist though. Really? Because now everyone's talking about it. We would not be talking about this right now in the podcast if it hadn't happened.

But there's no upside for Taylor Schwoot in that. Now people rallied her cause. They think she's like a powerful influential person. Yeah, but if it fails on her and it comes out that she was like in coo to the apple and the whole thing. It's like Kickstarter. She got weight on her lose. It's just, she didn't exist pre-itunes. Like she doesn't understand how good iTunes was for artists and how it ushered in. No, no,'t pay. It's like how shitty things were before. I mean, things are just, we're shitier. It was a great for a long period of time. They got super shitty.

Yeah. And then they got way better. Here's the thing with it. Even if they didn't pay artists, you're not forced to do it. You are given the option. Like we were given the choice where it says, do you want, Ristrathe, do you want to participate

in Apple music? And this was before this. And you can choose, yes or no? First of all, she's also not on Spotify's service because it has a free tier. Right, and she made a whole big thing about that saying that artists didn't get paid enough on Spotify. This is months and months ago. Because they have a free tier where it's,

and then they'll get a share of that. Yeah, so Apple's not making money on the service. I mean, they're trying to get a user base, and they said, who wants to be in this? It's up to you. You don't have to do it, but if you want to do it, you can. Right. And then maybe her company, like her, the people who actually make those decisions said they're gonna do it. And then she found out that, you know, she's not gonna get paid for it and so she went to Apple directly.

Wouldn't you consider that good in that scenario? I'm sorry, not Apple directly. She wrote an open letter. She called it out. I mean, I can't imagine her, whoever, I don't know if it's Sony, whoever was like, all right, Taylor, we want you to call out Apple. She's probably didn't like the way it was going.

But I mean, I don't know. It's just don't do it. It's your choice. You have a choice. It seems greedy to be like, no, I want to take advantage of the service. But I also want to get paid for it if no one else is gonna Yeah, I totally agree, you know, and it's a get a I mean if if you've got a

Service out there an apple this a company the size of apples trying to get into a market that already exists Just they need to spend some money to do that. They need to spend the cash to do that and as you noted They have the money to do it. They definitely have the money to do it. You don't make money by spending it. I get it, you guys. Don't make money by spending it. They are spending the money that we do with the whole service. You have the money to have. Like if you were Apple like, what would you do

with all that money? But break, is it? And they just buy, I mean, you just buy your way into a new market segment. Yeah. Like music. You just look at Facebook. You know, or at the phone.

Did you buy a WhatsApp for $18 billion dollars and that's a defensive move that Facebook did It wasn't even to like grow their service really and just to keep What's that from cutting into the service the way Instagram and Twitter have you know? We're not Instagram what Facebook. I'm just saying thing. Yeah, yeah Instagram My girl I mean they didn't have to buy into the the IT or the digital sales market They were basically it like there were other MP3 players, but streaming they created that streaming

They're not right in streaming their way way way like in the dust So it's probably already in a cost and astronomical amount of money To get to a decent point behind Spotify. Well, they already spent all that money to buy beats and beats has the music specific purpose. I think plot for them. Yeah. Well, remember what I did my, uh, at South by Southwest, I did a keynote. It was back in 2006. And instead of talking about RGT, I talked all about, uh, like content versus distribution. And back then I was, all I was talking about, which is now net neutrality. I was only talking about iTunes because Netflix wasn't really a streaming service at that point in time, but it's funny toality. I was only talking about iTunes because Netflix wasn't really a streaming service at that point in time,

but it's funny to me because I was defending iTunes as a content provider and people like Time Warner and AT&T as being access providers. But now in a way, iTunes is like between that, apples between that, where they have, they're the access provider

because they come out to all the way to our phones now and they're also a content provider as well. You know, it's like, it's interesting. They can't have both sides of it. To me, it's the same thing as like net neutrality where you're gonna have tiers where you buy things, the people worried about it, where time Warner could say, we get our main tier, but then if you want Netflix,

you have to pay for this, if you want web services, you have to pay for this, if you want Amazon, you have to pay for this, but it's like, if you don't have any of those things, what do you have, the time Warner homepage? Who wants to go to that? I'm gonna pay 50 bucks a month to be able to go to the Time Warner homepage.

You can check your Time Warner email. It's like the content does have value too. It has enormous amount of value. I can't wait until internet's bundled, like the way they fucked up cable bundles. Oh, you want our shopping bundle? Get Amazon and what's another fucking shopping site? Buy.com, for $15 a month.

eBay, yeah, eBay. No, that's an auction, that's the auction package. I guess I look at what artists get from iTunes sales and you compare that to the amount of take that retail stores used to take and plus just cost of manufacturing, cost of storage in a warehouse. And to see what iTunes does for people and the share, it's like, I, I, I have a hard time being okay with any artist criticizing that service. Because it's like, you are so lucky.

I'm sorry, I'm getting emotional. I don't know, I'm getting emotional. This is a very emotional podcast. I think, I think Brandon is secretly an artist. I think Apple watched Game of Thrones with that Taylor Swift. I think that's what really happened. They've watched it separately.

Because you guys still got the two shot. You have any other problems you need to still got the two shot? Do you have any other problems you need to work out? What's that? Do you have any other problems you need to work out? No, we're good. Just work it out through the two shots. Okay. Actually, do we have any problems? We need to work out? Anything you want to, anything you want to air while we're on screen. Actually, I never argue about anything. Let's get a festival school in here. What's the biggest argument we've had? That's why he had to pare a scope it. What's the biggest argument you think we've had? Oh, defense mechanism. Right. He did. He did. He pare a scope our argument. That's awesome. Oh, defense mechanism. Parascopus. He did. He parascoped our argument.

That's awesome. Oh my god. Thank you for that idea. It's pretty safe call. It's like, oh, we're having fun. You're just like secretly. Is it okay if I all could do that? What's that? Can I take that idea?

Yeah, if you parascopen argument. He, yeah, she got, yeah, she went from Maddy Grumpy. I said, that's good, that's good, that's good, and over. I think the biggest, it just went underground to summer. We, that, we know good's good. That's good. I think the biggest it just went underground to simmer We let no good for any way the biggest argument I think we had it was in Italy when you all was drove us off a cliff with Google maps

We're gonna go oh my god. Were you navigating for Bernie? Yeah, I think oh, that's scary, right? It's super Yeah, especially when you're going up the side of a mountain like full tilt. Yeah, I've been there There's no right and there's like a and like full tilt. Yeah, I've been there. There's no such thing as a twin fat. There's no such thing as a twin fat. Two and a tin can, like on a little trail. She said, turn there, I'm like, there's nothing there.

There were some indentations where tires might have gone in years gone by. And Google Maps knew it. Like they knew that was a road. And like we were driving on this like, I mean straight down the mountain, I think we went up like a thousand feet in a minute. Like that's how steep these roads

were. It was pretty crazy. And then we got to a point in this little village thing where there was one traffic light that managed like every single road that went through a cathedral. Yeah, the road went through a church. It was the weirdest thing ever. But it was like you couldn't see like you got to the stoplight. And the stoplight was extra long because it was one road that went all the way to town so the stoplight had to be long enough for at the other town it gets green they come all the way through the town through the cathedral out past you before their light turns red

to you and then you like has heard so they run the yellow what it's got to be long enough time for them to get all the way through the town like four blocks did dr. soos and vintis town but you're driving under the the church right now you're driving like so there's like an arch we're not driving like a service and it's not the end of my air but it's like there's a big control a tunnel in the middle of the field

okay yeah that makes sense uh... did you see i read this article i think was last week that there's this stoplight in Germany that's been read for 29 years? Really? And it's intentionally read because legally, it's a weird intersection,

because you come to the intersection and you can't go straight, you can make a right turn. But in order to make people stop before making the right turn, they have to have a red light there. That would confuse Bruce. They can't just have a stop sign. They said that the way that the traffic laws are written in Germany, a stop sign does not perform the same function as the red light, so they need to have a red light there. And it's like a normal red light with a yellow and green light they just never turn on.

What's the difference between a red yield sign and a yellow yield sign? Yellow yield sign. Red yield sign means you have to stop before you can proceed. Then why is it called a stop sign? Wait, a red yield sign. This is a yellow yellow sign. Red yield sign means you have to stop before you can proceed. Then why is it called a stop sign? Wait, a red yield sign. There's just things yellow yield sign. Do you know what, some yield signs are yellow, some are red.

Oh, yield signs are red. I've never seen a yellow yield sign. Where have you seen a yellow yield sign? They're like caution signs. Why did you bring this up? You've got mad about something that doesn't exist. Are you talking about lights or signs at this point? I think I've seen a yellow yield sign.

Is there a yellow yield sign? I swear. There's that thing right around the corner from here. Two things. Two things, I don't know what the other thing is, but there's a thing right around the corner from here. Two things. Two things, I don't know what the other thing is, but there's two things right around the corner from here. They made me add, one is they have a stop light, a traffic light where they've invented a new kind of signal.

Oh, there's another one right down the corner. Yeah, they're two. So there's two lanes going straight and there's a left turn lane. And they have a left turn signal, but it's a yield signal. So it So it's a blinking yellow arrow goes from red to blinking yellow. I'm never saying that before. It's instead of the solid green. So you don't get the in you don't infer that it's good to go. You still have to have caution of making the turn. Right. It's a green light just has done yellow yield. Yeah. I was. that's some fucking Mexico

Mexico, you know, you know, 20 seconds 15 the day that was Man's be the the shitty version of Mexico Mexico. The other light that's the problem is that there's there's a tea intersection just down the road where it's a stoplight. It's a light and two of the lanes turn left and one turns right. So whoever was doing the city planning decided to be extra helpful and throw all the things that we know about turning on left, you know, at a light and turning on right on light and just throw those out the window. So instead they made two normal, their traffic signs with left arrows for the two left lanes that are green or yellow or red. Pretty straightforward. But then they have that for the right too. So you get a right, you get a right red light, but it's a

I'm not so fucking lost right now. I know exactly what you're talking about. So it's a light where when you've got to turn right, it's a red arrow instead of just a red light. Oh, it really means you can't do it. Which basically says don't turn right. Right. Even though you can turn right on red. No, I buy it. I heard in urban legend that the city planner of Austin killed himself. Oh, that's no, it's the guy who designed I-35 made its split level. Yeah. The urban legend is that guy killed himself. Yeah. No. It's not true.

I don't know. I don't believe it's true. Snopes. I'm gonna Turn to add more lanes to the top level. They both the top of the bottom. They determined years ago that the upper deck of R35 was not Strong enough to support more lanes. Oh, great. But then they just ran out of study. I guess not to be fine Literally what they did. We'll be okay. Another study where they revised their findings and now they're gonna add more lanes up There's a yeah, they said give us 20 million dollars and we'll you know, we'll make sure to pack these things We got polymers. Yeah, there's a government website that it like or they they go through and they grade City structures, you know like highways and bridges and stuff like that and you can see all of the structures in the United States like dams Bridges all sorts of stuff and we're like really shit. Yeah, we have like Fs and Ds on some of them in Austin

Oh, no, yeah, I mean our damn Longhorn damn is like the president. Yeah, I don't have a Dean falling apart Very good. Thank you Here let me I'm gonna read this other one. Here's the final one I want to remind everyone this episode of the podcast is also brought to you by Squarespace Squarespace is the other one platform that helps you build a beautiful website presence. Squarespace is proud to announce a partnership with Vulcan to launch Deckmasters, a hearthstone tournament streaming live via Twitch.

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I met the square space dude at e3. Oh, I met a guy today. I should look into that. I met the square space dude at E3. Oh, I met him. Yeah, I'm a guy. And we I told him how much I appreciate him sponsoring our podcast among other productions. I'm not loading my bolt up by the way. I met Adam Sessler and I saw Cliffey B and I saw Rod Furnickson. Adam Sessler in his hat like a little bit tilted back. Yeah. Yeah. It was really cool because him and Morgan Webb got back together to do that show. The, but that's the pre-enpost. Mm-hmm. Just cool to see them together again. Bernie, I guess he's on.

You. Good. So I live with Joe the cat basically for like a year and a half. You did? The office. Oh, yeah. And there was a pretty scary moment where he just got away from me. Like, left and he- And I told you not to worry about it.

I know you're not to worry about it. So I'm asking you, like, what- what's like the actual scariest moment you've ever had with Joe the cat? With Joe the cat? With Joe the cat had with Joe the cat with Joe the cat? The cogn missing no no Yeah, like is there been a moment where you like holy shit like what I'm afraid for Joe the cat's life man I Can't recall a certain one

I guess I mean JD's allergic cats once I found that out. I thought I had to get rid of the cat But JD's like nope don't get rid of the cat. I'll I'll do with it Well, do you see the guy? Yeah, it takes you just takes Claireton. It's awesome. Yeah him and the catchers It's not like the cat like hugs up to him more than anybody else. Oh, yeah This guy and his friend they went hang lighting and as they were up there They look to their left and they saw a cat here. It is sitting there Oh, and like I think some time when by before they realize But it's like it you would imagine the animal would be freaking out

But that just looks like the cat has no idea Those are the cat look knows enough to hold on like I don't think they were hangar I think they're in an ultra light. Yeah, that's motorized. Yeah, you can see the the guy Oh, yeah, no, it's just this this lady is it a lady this the the person on the right has no idea what's going on and the pilot there on the left Notice is it and just quietly man. Yeah If he freaks out sees it in the lands and he can tell it We don't get that far in this gift that we're showing but you tell he does like doing everything this power to hide it from her

Like he doesn't react to it. I wonder if it's her cat. What if she's afraid of cats She's like I'm gonna go flying instead of calm my nerves. I'm gonna get away from cats Oh my god, it's gonna be like this like the last place you expect to find a cat alien Give me like the twilight scene right where you look out and there's like an alien on the plane or on the wing. Oh There's something on the way that the Remlin on the wing. Yeah, I think I think you said twilight. I did say twilight You know what's funny is the only time I zone didn't you know he's the twilight we were making we we see Sparkling in a mental no brand. I was I was trying to figure out where it was going down Paris to then I figured out the only thing

I I only know that episode of Twilight zone because of a's venture That one was there. Oh, that you can say this is something. The little shaman. Yeah, that's right. The Tresser horror. Yeah. Yeah. So as far as fights go, not a bad fight, not a bad fight. Who? The one of Game of Thrones thing. Oh, just a winnest? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not listen, we just spent a week and a half together. You know, see? Perfect. Look at that face. I've seen that face before. I have to be saying Game of Thrones to reversible.

And it's like, I told, I was telling Lawrence about it. We were talking about Game of Thrones and I mentioned that I had seen the most recent one and as soon as I said I was like I just fucked up big time. Well see here's the other thing though I didn't catch that at the time and then he went he took pains to point out that he had just let us live. You're kind of egging around aren't you? A little bit. You want to see where you go? No I was I promised I wasn't egging around. Actually I didn't know it bit. You want to see where you go? No, I promise I wasn't egging her on. Actually, I didn't know it was actually that big a deal.

We were joking about it at drinks, and then we got back, and she said to me she was actually legitimately upset about it. Which is rare. I don't see her get upset. Burrisco! I feel like, what have you got to met him about? You're not going to met him about anything else? Nope, not really. I'm a very easygoing individual, except when you mess up terribly and do something like that. She's laid back.

So you were mentioning that road that ran through a cathedral? Yeah. Have you ever seen that building, this building in Osaka, Japan, where a freeway runs through it? Oh, yes, I have seen that. It's a very similar thing where I guess the building owner wanted to redevelop it, but the city already had plans to build a freeway. So the freeway is the tenant of floors, like 5, 6, and 7 of the building. It's awesome.

And the freeway just runs. I love the idea of a freeway paying rent. So cool. Yes, but I mean, what happens when the freeway doesn't pay rent? Like you can't kick it out. I was like, the idea of like living above that floor. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the worst room in town.

Have you ever seen that image? I don't know if it's from Russia or like North Korea, where it's a block of apartment buildings and they're all in a row except for one is too far out. Have you seen that before? No. I kind of find a picture of that. I'm trying to think of what that's called. Someone told me in what way? Well, like they're all in a row. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's all third of the right. Okay. That's super cool I would totally be in that building No, I wouldn't it looks it looks it looks like a level of a video game racing game. Yeah, yeah Like me for speaking in sim city

Somebody modded that that sim city consequences will never be the same is there a road in an airport in Asia where the road goes through the airport Like it actually like at the on one of the runways. There's like a red light in a green light. Oh, no, that's it Your brawl turn Yeah, could you imagine like yeah, where the road goes across the freeway whenever a plane's taking off for landing Got armed like the road gets close a plank can cross. They do the same thing with St. Barth. Because the planes have to come down a hill to land, basically, they have to like cut down a mountain and then land.

Yeah, it's like, I knew it was a bad airport because when you look up the name of the airport, it's people trying to land there in flight simulator games and wrecking. And then the one footage they have of the actual airport, the thumbnail is, it's on one have of the actual airport the thumbnail is it's on one side it's mountain and the runway runs and it's ocean they're in it's just a plane sticking up out of the ocean like to tail it into the plane

that's the thumbnail pass so that's the Gibraltar airport and if you tell like the runway goes across the road and they're having to stop traffic on both sides see they just built you near up before they knew they were gonna have an airport yeah they build like a federal and it's like we need a fucking road that goes through here Don't you just make a tunnel though? I mean there are all kinds of airports around here in in LA in particular where Roads just they would probably they would probably close the runway to do that I might be thinking of Sydney where they dig a tunnel underneath the the runways and just the freeway just it goes Billions of dollars.

Yeah, I think in this case they would have to close that runway. And it's like they need like there's no other alternative in order to build that. So it's like, they're kind of fucked. So stop lights. Gotcha. Stop lights. Yeah, it's fine. I'm sure it'll be okay.

Whatever. So it runs a light. In those engines, they would just blow a car away Yeah, I'm a people get extra mad at me because I'm that guy that's on my phone They get stuck at the red light and then I get to go and everyone else doesn't and just like a plane waiting You Bernie has your ball So we put up a pole Bernie was right. Ashley was right hold on

Hold on Has already you're computer has already put on a report right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold We thought we were out. Is this a better process or going to someone like a psychologist and having him decide who's right? No, that's her I don't think that works like a couple of therapy. Yeah, you mean because they would decide I'm right Because it was something we did together. All right, I want to formally apologize But it was a great episode. Isn't that the ninth episode? We're gonna watch we're gonna watch Oh did you see on the wound? Did you watch true to check if season one yet? No, I finally did this weekend season one so good We're gonna watch the We're gonna watch the We're gonna watch the Season one yet. No, I finally did this weekend season one so good. Yeah, I it took me a while to get into it But then the show like drastically changes after like let me be like oh votes are coming in now

Yeah, okay, so I think it's episode four that ends with that long tracking shot. Yeah during the when all the shit goes down Yeah, it's like wow what the fuck am I watching? It's basically once they finally finish doing the thing where they're telling the story You know to the investigators and everything's just kind of like you're being caught up that I think you guys really I feel like when you just start like kissing babies or something No, do I just have like Like a like a college I'm out here every week shit actually slowly gaining slowly She's what even though she's like we got 20% ahead slowly becoming

If it helps I want everybody know that Brandon thinks Bernie is right, so if that helps you and you're Fully yeah, I love both sides. Yeah, did you see the season two premier? I did see the season two premier. Yeah, And I was waiting for something fun and interesting to happen, but it just kind of felt very dry and boring. And it didn't have the charm that the season one did with the so then Louisiana. Yeah, I felt the same way up until literally the last 45 to 60 seconds that episode,

when everyone finally comes together, and there's that circular shot showing everyone looking at each other. Yeah. Okay, this finally seems kind of interesting, but it was a lot of establishing and a lot of setup trying to figure out where it's going. So one thing I thought was really cool and it's not a spoiler really. So this guy's kid is getting beat up at school and so he finds out the kid that's beating him up and he goes to that kid's house. He's the rest of the shit. Instead of like messing with the kid he pulls the kid out and he pulls the dad and he beats the shit out of the dad

That's the move you keep messing with my kid. Oh, what do you say? I'm gonna face fuck your dad Yeah, he's like the kid tries to run away and he grabs the kid. He's like you did this you're responsible for this that's happening right now What character does this the call a feral character? Did you hear the call of aeral admitted to being a suspect in a murder case? Yeah, there was a guy who went to late night talk show interview. Just a suspect. But that went unsolved. Well, he wouldn't admit it unless unless he's trying to deflect. Look, he just he just needed he needed that experience. Otherwise, how is he going to do method? Yeah, he's method acting. That's all he's doing. Why that being a suspect in a murder case.

No, no, just ever since. Un-unsolved murder case? Josh, we got over there. You look like you're in the middle of something. I'm just checking out the wall. I see it appears that pole went offline. Sorry, everybody. Did you want?

Fucking assholes. So I'll get the fuck out of here. Take it down. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. I signed up. Here's our, here's our, console is going offline too. Have you heard about, have you heard about, we haven't talked about this. I Sign up. I put your Zara Console is going offline too. Have you heard about have you heard about we've talked about this Have you heard about Google's project fly anybody? Yeah, yes, I got one of those phones in

And I've been trying it out. It's really interesting. I'm not like an Android user. You know, I've been in iOS Pretty much forever This is a beginning of time um, and so it's really interesting to switch over to Android and use the phone, except I had a problem right out of the box. What is that? Sorry, I take out the phone out. It's like plugging in. You know, you activate it, go through the steps and everything, then like, great. Here's my brand new phone out of the box,

booted up for the first time. I was like, oh, I'm going to see what Google Maps looks like. I launched Google Maps. It's like, in order to use Google Maps, you have to update Google Core services or something. Okay, so it takes me to software update. So I hit whatever Google blah, blah, shit service. I hit update. And it's like, that was the first problem. I don't think it was under shit service.

Downloading, downloading, any surprise? It's like installing failed, error code 941. Whoa. That's weird. Install failed, error code 941. Yeah, let me just repeat the phone Reboot the phone. All right Google maps Google maps cannot work. You need update Google core services update Download failed error code 941 fuck what the fuck is this? It's like a little micropuder and I type in the error code

It's like try deleting your app cache. Okay. I don't eat the app cache update update failed error code 941 Fuck you should never have to go on a phone. Is Google errors? I tried to, I found another solution. Especially because you can't Google them from the phone. Yeah, delete this other thing. Nope, error code 941. Fuck, I found another solution that was like,

go to the settings, it's like this very thing, tell it to reset Google core services to factory default or whatever. So restart the factory default. Are you sure your phone's gonna be reset to factory? It's already factory, I just fucking pulled it out of the box. Reset to factory, update, update successful. Like, the phone's fine, the service is great.

Why the fuck can it not complete a software update out of the goddamn box? Well that's why you needed the software update. Is I, you couldn't use anything. Everything Google related, said, no, you can't use this. You need to update so Testing to not discover that right. I mean Why why yeah, they probably did it and then like the people like no it has to release in this day

And they're like what we can do like well just just day one or is it day zero update? Like they shipped the product that they knew but it was broken just not to kick I was doing the update Yes They shipped the product that they knew was bad. But the update was broken. Just now it's kicked. I was doing the update. Yeah, so it started. Yeah, it's just a trial thing. No, I bought one. Oh, you bought one. I was just to try it out.

You bought one, huh? It initially works on one model of phone right. The Nexus 6. Nexus 6. So that's Samsung phones. No, it's a Google phone. What does it do? Like, why'd you get it?

It's interesting because it operates on different cell phone networks. So the Nexus has a bunch of different cell phone antennas in it. So it can connect to the T-Mobile network or the Sprint network or your Wi-Fi network. So like let's say you're in here where there's no service. Is it Verizon as well? No, you can make phone calls over the Wi-Fi since the cell phone service doesn't work here. Then when you walk outside and you lose your Wi-Fi it'll switch over to T-Mobile or Sprint, whichever has a strongest signal.

That's awesome. And as you're moving around or driving around, it's constantly hopping onto whatever network's strongest. That's amazing. It's also like it has apparently a network of just like public Wi-Fi, it'll find a public Wi-Fi if that's available. I'll kill for that in this building. Yeah, it's pretty neat.

AT&T said that they're going gonna have Wi-Fi calling sometime in I think with iOS 8 it was available by default on Apple devices the carry disaster enable it and T mobile I think enabled it right away and AT&T said they would do it at some point this year We just have the worst cell phone reception and every time I know I'm on hold from within 10 minutes I'm like I'm gonna get fucked. I'm bailing on Apple as soon as I can find a decent Android phone Yeah, you're handsome. I'm major. I'm fairly happy with the Nexus except for my right initial software update Probably there's a follow-up shelter on Android. What's what's that's problem? What's sad is I put this on the Google Nexus the Nexus screen is bigger than my entire five S really?

Yeah, it's like this feels like a tiny little toy now Well, that's I'm sure it's like this feels like a tiny little toy now well that's I'm sure the same size of the plus yeah my fucking plus won't rotate it's just a I show everybody everybody when I have a problem with it it's like it constantly had problems with my phone as he's probably here I might be able to fix it he threw it across the booth in the E3 here's why I get out of here not go get your nudes here here's why I threw it I threw it because I was trying helicopter guess. No, okay. What are you doing?

I was trying to see if you had the rotate thing on helicopter gifts. No, it'll rotate, then it won't rotate back. So half the time, it leaves my phone sideways like that. It's just, it's a known issue with the iPhone. Well, one time Brandon was like, my phone just not working, my phone just not working. And I was like, you got it on, do not see where it's going. So you really thought my problem was at the brain

and in a level of solvability that I'm I'm sorry, Bernie. I'm insulting. That's insulting. Sorry. That was level of solvability. I'm sorry burning. I think something that's really that's insulting Sorry, that was legitimate. I was like I don't know why I'm not getting notifications Do you know how many updates they do for iOS? It wasn't long after they updated I think worth it. I didn't know really No, I'm saying like when they introduced new iOS there's like hundreds of new features one of them is the do not disturb thing I had no idea it even existed.

I don't go into the middle of it. How did you enable it? It must have been I accidentally like touch the button. It's in, and I had no idea what the button was. I'm trying to do all the swipe up menu. I'm trying to do all the swipe down and swipe up stuff. Yeah. It's, Periscope gets in the way of all of it too.

Like we've tried to do anything in Periscope, but just like it never does anything in Periscope. I like that in Periscope whenever you flip the screen, it goes black for like three seconds. And the sound cuts out. And anytime you want to end in periscope whenever you flip the screen. It goes black for like three seconds. And the sound cuts out. Anytime you want to end a periscope, it always ends like this. What are you, can you, can you, can you swipe, God damn it.

No, hold on. You're like, bye everybody. I'm sorry. And it finally ends. You finally get it to swipe down and the broadcast. Does anybody else get paranoid after a little bit after a periscope that what if you didn't close it? And what if everybody can hear you right now?

It happened that happened oh god one time Where if you if your connection fails and this is connection lost? It doesn't matter the the periscope continues to record and then uploads when you get a connection again. Oh, oh you serious? Yeah Yeah, I'm actually get a phone call and then it just I don't know about that Just get rid of the app. That's my recommendation. Just swipe the fuck out of that and get rid of the app that's my recommendation just like the fuck out of that i get rid of it i remember that will cancel it though yeah i remember thinking about like oh my god like getting paranoid about it

during like night time stuff and being like i'm not i'm just yeah sleeping night my film is in you know doing a wrap with a girl on your lap. And I was like, I know, I close it, but I don't know what, what if not?

And I was like, well, I guess I'm this far. And I guess I can just go to Reddit and see if there's a threat about it if I did. But like, that seriously can happen. Like, I don't know why that hasn't happened to somebody yet. That is surprisingly talked about. It did. It happened to Bethesda. That was Twitch.

They were on Twitch over live streaming. And they were like, okay, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going to talk about dishonor two and show the trailer for dishonor two. Then we'll talk about this. And somebody goes, Hey, I think we're live. And they're like, yeah. And then they were actually live.

And they talked about dishonor before their press conference. They went to their own service. What a day before. It was a day before. It wasn't super. They get a lot of traction, but still. Yeah.'s a thing like that earlier. We have a an arcade machine I guess that we're working on Markis and Tim were working on it. It's fucking awesome

Yeah, and it's it was right outside my office and they were being so loud and I was like Oh, and I like got up and I was gonna go yell at him and then I saw you were a pair of scoping and I was like Like locked out turning toion for home proof right i think you find out you're on paroscoping something you have to put on all your manners be nice it's not a man i mean pretend you're not mad you know what i've discovered uh... since they made that arcade machine and put it up in here is that nobody who works at a video game company or a video game based

company or the best video game developer in austin according to the awesome chronicle nobody here knows anything about any fucking arcade games. Marcus had never heard of Robotron. Wow. And I was like, that's like one of the first eight video games ever. Yeah. You know, there was ever made, but no, nobody knows anything. It's like, do you have this?

It's like, I don't know what that is. It's like, you don't know what track and field is. It's like, you know, Robotron is. Do you know what Robotron is? Uh, do you know what Robotron is? Yeah. You really don't know what Rob you don't know what robot. I don't know it's one of it's one of the first eight That's because your games ever created fuck What what's the control scheme for robotron? What's the control scheme for robotron? It's the the mothin is said the

You don't know what a robot on is the puck isn't it? He don't know robot on it So basically what's going on here? I think you were just getting really upset with everybody turns out nobody knows what it's about. It's Robotron 2084 right? It's two joysticks dude. It was the first joy stick where you move with one and you shoot with the other. Oh That's nice. Oh my god. Yeah, that's great. Really? Yeah, I was totally thinking of berserk. This is like a lot of you. Do they have it at pinballs? I don't know if they were going to job, but they have it on those Williams machines where they have a bunch of Williams games on them.

You guys don't know what we're doing. I just want to play, they have like old Star Wars arcade games. I just want to play that. Did you guys ever pay for both guns and then try to do both guns in a shooting game? It's just like A-A-1. It's a disaster. John Wu style, Area 51, just two guns on there. I'm sure the arcade owners love when you do the anything. What was your favorite arcade game?

My favorite arcade game was probably Tempest. Tempest, okay. That's the Roma Tron era. It's a little after it, but yeah. That one had a puck. That one had a puck. Tempest had a puck. Time crisis, that was also time crisis.

Okay. Any racing game I'll destroy? Name one though. Really. Oh! Crushing in the world. Crushing in the world. Orcruz in the world! Cruising in the world! Or Cruising in the USA.

Cruising in USA, that's right. Yeah. I took me a while to think. Cruising in USA, I took you a while to think. And so much of the light of Blaine dies when I ask that question. It's like what? Yeah. Such a generic answer.

Oh, the driving one. Something good really. Next person. Pass it on. What's your favorite arcade game? DDR. DDR. Does, does, is it really? That's your favorite arcade game? DDR. DDR. DDR. DZ- DZ-

Is it really? That's your favorite arcade game? Yeah. How can we deploy DDR when we played that day? Because it wasn't DDR. Come on guys. It was not called DDR where it's the diagonal. Oh, pump it up.

The center button. Yeah, it was one of those ones that just... It was really cute watching Bernie and one of the boys play. Should have parents coping with play but I should have. Yeah, she was like, no, we deal get up there and I'm like I'm never played a rhythm game. Shame is go. You'll be fine. And then I got done she goes, I was fucking terrible.

She was like, she had no problem embarrassing me afterwards. And then I was like, you play, she's like, nope. When I get up there. So it's that we went to the pinballs down south. I got to say, not worth the trip down to the pinballs down south. I got to say Not worth the trip down to be what they did you go that full bar. You know that castle set 28 or yeah, the castle truck stop they took that thing over Yeah, so you have a giant catfish in the fish tank there like the singing one. Oh, there's a fish tank Did you get cast singing? You mean like the bath on the wall? It is funny. Lane, don't you have a capture story?

Uh... No. You mean, casted? What actually happened over the weekend? Is it you like to bring up the better flag? You got casted over the weekend? I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that.

Just take a quick walk. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We're not gonna solve that. We're sorry the podcast is ending, so we can't talk. Yeah, we gotta wrap up. Yeah. Maybe we can talk about it right now in the supplementary. Oh, yeah, for the next couple of minutes.

You got a dip picked. All right. Well, thanks for watching everyone. If you're listening to the auto version of the podcast, keep listening. We have a supplementary podcast with Paul Sheer. If you're oh, oh, Ashley is marginally ahead. It's a little closer than before. Yeah, it's burning. You're gaining. If you're watching this on YouTube, you go to our podcast either on our website or download our iTunes version for the Paul Sheer. And check out his show, Sheer El, it's actually pretty funny. There's somebody so quick.

All right, thanks for watching everyone. I had so many things to have. Hey everyone, welcome to the supplemental portion of the podcast. This is Gus. Brennan, Aaron. Gus, and we've got a very special guest with us here. We've got Paul Sheer.

I'm very excited to be a part of the supplemental Part of the podcast. I feel like it's this is yeah, we're sitting aside like this is it this is dedicated This is the Paul Sheer podcast. Oh my gosh. Remember this on the flaky on the web site Right below the about us. No, this is still above the fold But this is also on the geocities part of the website Geosies now I don't think so. I hope they were what a downer Yeah, really put one out for all those lost milliamarers like like those stock options Yeah, who came in bought bought you, and farewell.

No way, they bought Tripod. Oh, yeah. Maybe they bought GEOC. I don't know. There were many, but. You know, I know is that when I search stuff online, I ask Jeaves, and I get on my GEOC site after I crank up my prodigy account, and everything

works out great. I used to work at a help desk for internet service providers, like an outsource help desk. And we, this is a long time ago, we service dial-up customers in very rural areas, like East Texas, rural Alabama, Mississippi. And lots of times we want to test people's internet connections, we'd be like, okay, listen, can you just go to Yahoo.com, right? And in, or it's about example, So we said go to CNN.com.

And they'd be like, okay, hold on. And I could hear them typing and typing. Like, what are you doing? Well, I'm going to Yahoo. Like, why are you going to Yahoo? Well, I need to type in CNN.com and to Yahoo. That way I see CNN and I can click on it.

Like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. What year was that? God, this was like 98, 99. It was a mind numbing job. Yeah, I do that now. I don't go to, I don't type up websites.

I just Google websites and click. It's faster. Yeah, it is faster. If you just Google the website. Yeah, I think I do that too. I just put it in the spacebar at the top. Yeah. Well, my first, not my first, one of my weirdest jobs I ever had was

Right on the decline of America online. It was like they knew they were on the way out, but they didn't quite know yet how bad it was So they hired me and for the people to wear flat screen TVs on our chest and rollerblade around New York City and rollerblade around New York City, passing out America online CDs, and I never had rollerbladed, and I said yes, because it was like $25 an hour, so rollerblade around New York City

with a stupid flat screen on me, trying to give out, it was late, it was like, I mean, maybe it was, well I guess maybe it's old now, but it was probably right in like 2000 or something like that, like you know, like, I'm late of the discs. Yeah, like it was, I guess maybe it's old now, but it was probably right in like 2000 or something like that, like you know like. I hate of the discs. Yeah, like it was right, like it was at the end.

I mean, it was like, I wasn't on American online anymore. It was like, that's still exists. It's like, it's still trying to get people sucked in. But that's time they're giving like 5,000 hours free or something. Yeah. Just saying, we'll give you all the internet. Just please. But I know a couple of smart, successful people that still are rocking that AOL address.

Well, now it's like hipster, right? It's like, oh yeah, it was like wearing old glasses. It's so crazy. It's like it's so funny. And people make it out, it's like it's moving. It's like, oh, I can't change my email address. Who the hell? I can't curse on this.

No, I'm fine. I'm like, who the hell? Who's emailing you? Like, just keep it open. It's not like, it's not like they're never gonna find you. Like, how many times you get an email from someone that you haven't heard from in like decades? And like, oh, thank God it didn't change my email address

from prodigy.net so I can hear from my uncle Gary. Like, it's like, people find you. And it's not like there's a whole other way to find you. Yeah. Guys, you always need something. Oh, uncle Gary's not like there's another way to find you guys always need something Oh, I'll go get it getting in there. Um, you know, America online still makes a shocking amount of money from people who have Dial up accounts with them. Yes, I don't realize it. I used to work for NL or AOL about four years ago, five years ago

And their revenue breakdown was exactly that. It was a lot of older people that still had it connected. And they weren't going to say like, oh no, don't, you know, good. They're still paying like 40 bucks, 50 bucks a month. I will tell you, I fell victim to something very similar. And I'm embarrassed by it. You know, when you fly on, you mean, fine airlines, they have like, go-go in flight. And they, and there's a period of time,

a couple of years ago, maybe like the last year, where I was just flying a lot. And I was like, oh, I have like, maybe like the last year, where I was just flying a lot. And I was like, oh, I have like seven flights in the next like two months. And it was like, you know, it was 30 bucks a month for that. And I was like, oh, that's great. I'll just do it for the month. And it just automatically renews you, non-stop, and it was going on for like, I caught it

after like three or four months. Like I didn't really, I was like, oh, because whenever I saw it, I was like, oh, that's, from that was the, that's the old charge. It's just like the delayed bill. It was like, wait a second. That, I definitely thought like five charges. Like, so like they suckered me out of a lot of money and they were so psyched not to give it back.

They did not care. I hope that internet was worth it. It's the worst, the worst that go go. That happened to me with a fitness service So it's like I had to look back and be like well, I gave up on working out six months ago And I'm being forced to pay for the fact that I'm fat and lazy. It's your fat text. Yeah, it's just like a double whammy Well, it looks like you gave up your your health membership. You're a gym membership a long time away I get I get rebates text rebates, whatever it's called.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. No, but that's like, yeah, the, like, it's so, and those recurring payments get you, and they never want to look out for you. Like, I went to Mexico one time, I switched my phone over to Mexico minutes. And all of a sudden, I was like, at home,

and I got my phone bill. Like $495. I was like, why? I was like, oh you're on Mexico minutes and you're in the United. I was like, what? I was like, we can tell I made all my phone calls. And they're like, yeah, sorry. They're like, you need to get like 20 bucks. I was like, yeah, it was the worst.

I grew up on the border. It takes us to Mexico. And when I was growing up, their cell phones didn't exist. And like one day all of a sudden, it's like, oh, cell phones are a phones are a thing now and I guess you know in the US. Do you use calling cards? Yes, yes, I did it was that we had stickers on the phone Yeah, you know what the prefix to dial but in the US we have rules about like how strong a cell phone tower can be Where in Mexico? They're like fuck it. Just crank that bitch up to like So it's like you would be in the city

I was growing up in and you try to make a call and you'd hear like a Mexican operator saying like Oh, we can't complete that call. That's an international call like oh fuck. I'm on the Mexican tower So it's like you couldn't be in the city Trying to use a cell phone because you'd be on the Mexican network and you'd be charged like a million dollars a minute Uh, how do you change networks? You just like run the other way? We got to like do that thing when you put in a roaming like whenever I go anywhere in a like a foreign country It's always like you know city tell or like they're all these different things. I wasn't being coober and I just got screwed over on that too. Let me ask you this

about Mexico this is what I didn't know I just shot a movie in Mexico and it was outside of Mexico City. Nothing you know that much about Mexico City but I'm going to ask this anyway. They have a tremendous amount of paintball fields in Mexico. I didn't know if that was a thing. Do you know how many experience with the Mexican paintball field? Zero experience with Mexican paintball, sadly. I was like, how much of a boon industry is this? It was like, I was driving up a mountain every day to go to set.

The same set where they shot Titanic, as a matter of fact. Really? Yeah, they had tanks up there. Or they had the big, or, yeah, I Really? Yeah, they had like tanks up there. They were like, or they had the big, or yeah, I think it was like some of the tanks were there, the gold tanks. Water tanks, I see. Water tanks.

Yeah. And you drive up and it was like, oh cool, a paintball field. Neat, drive like maybe half mile later. Oh, a brand new, different name paintball field. All right, that's a thing too. Must be probably a drive a little half mile. Another one, there was like literally six paintball fields on the way that's what I think too. Must be probably a travel a little half mile. Another one.

There's like literally six paintball fields on the way to work. I didn't understand that. Maybe that's a big business. Like a training ground for training. I gotta defend myself. I've seen stories about like theme parks in Mexico that are experienced based for what it's like

to try to sneak across the border where they have like fake border patrol agents. Oh, wow. You and it's like you're out in the woods at night trying to evade people looking for you with flashlights and night vision goggles. You're like a seasoned pastor there. You're like eating funnel cake

and you're like, I'm gonna get past the border with joy. It's so much better than that bush gardens. It's like a nursing park or something. But it's weird to me, like the things that people latch onto and the things that are considered fun. So I guess apparently in Mexico City, it's a, it's a paintball. Yeah, paintball. Paintball's got it going on there.

I haven't been in Mexico in a long time. I have a lot of families still there and it's just like, you know, I grew up there and it was fine when I grew up, but now it seems like things are so dangerous. So it's like, it's this tiny shit hole called Eagle Pass. It's like a four hour drive from here. The only claim to fame that this town has is that it's the only casino in Texas because there's a reservation there

for Native Americans. So they built a casino. And when I was growing up, you know, years ago, it was like, it was literally a trailer. There was like a mobile home that someone had put a couple of slot machines into. Right. But now it's like this huge, this huge complex with a giant hotel and like all the stuff. So it's weird to have seen that.

Yeah, the trailer broke. Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. And then also, you know, when I was growing up there, to get to the casino, it was, it wasn't in the town. You had to literally drive out of town down a dirt road that had no lights on it. And it was like you had to know like okay here you're supposed to turn there's supposed to turn here's supposed to turn okay you're here.

That's hilarious. You either get shot or you get to like place one on our band. Right. It's kind of how it was in Louisiana. Like you'd have to get on a ship and then they would drive out to international waters. Well no,, and we don't they don't they changed it. Oh, okay. So now they have whole giant casinos. Yeah, I think back. They just be on water. They just don't want to want to walk over the gang plan.

You're right. Oh, is that what it was? Well, that's what it is now. What I was in Shreveport. There's like five riverboat casinos, but they look just it's like a trailer home. Again, it looks it looks. It's a casino. You wouldn't know that you're even on a boat, but you're on a boat Like it doesn't have any boat features. Yeah, no, yeah, like they sink as soon as a gangplates to a way It's just like I thought they sailed you out to international

Money there's a place down a corpus that does that. I think it's called Texas treasures It's like they converted a cruise ship and put a bunch of slot machines on it and they like they sail out a few miles, gamble, and they come back in. Well I know that like when I was in shooting this movie Vinny Jones was in the movie. Vinny Jones like does like kind of like this British actors and like lock stocks. But barrel like this guy rich movies. There's a tough guy dude and he got kicked out of every single casino in a Shreveport, Louisiana, because he would curse out the dealers when he would lose. And I thought that was some money, like, he like to alienate yourself from every casino in a little area.

That's amazing. Calling the dealers cunts. And they're rough people, they'll take a lot. They'll take a ton. Shreveport. Shreveport tons of stuff. Yeah, Shreveport, yeah, if they're turning away your money, like you fuck up. Yeah, they, you away your money. Yeah, like you fuck. Yeah, they you really messed up

Yeah, the worst I've ever seen is one time I was in Vegas and I was at the craps table in the are you and I'm you know I'm sitting there gambling and there there was a spot where obviously there was someone who was had been gambling stepped away for a bit came back This dude comes back and you know, he's like I want to start to place him bets on the table again The dealer looks at him and grabs his hand and says, you know, I think you should step away. Whoa. And the guy's like, no, I just wanted to gamble

and the dealer said, you know, I think you've been on a bit of a losing streak. Why don't you go walk around the casino, get some air and then come back in an hour or so. It's like, how much money did that fucking guy lose that the casino's like, you know what? Yeah, you got it. It's bad now.

I just shot in the casino and they were telling us that if you lose $50,000 in a day, you can stay in this Elvis suite. It's the Elvis suite in the old Hilton hotel. It's not the Westgate. And you can stay up in it and be shot in Elvis's suite. And what's interesting about it is the Westgate is a fine hotel, but it's not like an area or something like a really brand new hotel where it's all decked out. So if you lose $50,000 at the Westgate, you'll get the Elvis suite.

But the Elvis suite was probably the best suite in 1989. And it has not been upgraded. Like it nothing, it's... Pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, pastes, past Trump, you know, like Donald Trump's designer on an off day was like Figure it out later, you know, but it was like that's more insult injury It's like you get our presidential suite and you get it there like 50,000 for this Like a couple hundred bucks a night. Yeah Well, if you got to stay in like a presidential suite if you lost 50 grand and You actually buy yourself just lost 49,000 you're like oh

shit I should walk away would you be like whatever just like drop another thousand you got it yeah you already that far down you can't lose it you just keep on getting it all night is not fun I book a lot of our travel when we do you know advancing we go to various places And I have questions for you then. We'll talk. A couple of years ago, we went to Boston for an event and we'd over a whole bunch of us. And there were got a bunch of rooms at the Intercontinental

in Boston. When I go to check in, the person at the front desk is like, oh, well, you booked 12 rooms or whatever it was. We went ahead and added the presidential suite as well, free of charge. You know, you can have it tonight if you want it. I was like, okay, cool, whatever. And they gave me the key. And so I told a couple of guys who are

traveling, it's like, hey, they gave us a key to the presidential suite. You want to go up and check it out? We're like, yeah, let's go check it out. It was like, holy fuck. It's like half of the floor. There's like conference table with a, with chairs for 12 fucking people. Hey, I have done the same thing. I went when I was doing NTSF for adults when I did the show on TSMF, STF TV, and Kate Mulgrew from Star Trek was on our show. So Kate said to me, she said, come with me to Vegas, it would be fun. She's like, they would love to see like a trailer of the show. And I guess like I was considered like VIP because I was with

Kate. So I also got like this presidential suite. And it was, and I was only my, I was by myself, my wife was not there. And I was like, I just wanted to sit in every place and use every bathroom. I was like, I'm not using enough of this giant thing. I was like, I'll watch TV in the living room. I'll watch TV in the bedroom.

I'll use this sink to brush my teeth. It was like a kicker. It was like, it was too much room for me to hand it. If I was there for free, I would just probably run around naked. Yeah, I would be in a long time, constantly being naked. This room was rolling around. I shouldn't even call it room. This space was so huge. It had a library, like with books in it, you know, like a real library. You could sit and you could take a book and sit in the study and read a book if you wanted to. And so could take a book and sit in the study and read a book

If you wanted to and so we were told a bunch of people and I had people up in the room and I'm like All right, who wants to sleep here tonight? There's a bed. You know someone nobody Too big it's too big. It's like a beautiful girl like there must be a catch here You're gonna bring me know the why do you want to? catch here you're gonna bring me know the why do you want to something what the um i wondered is every hotel have a presidential suite and then do they feel bomb the president never comes that's like you know like a double tree is like one day one day no stop it our hotel

we'll have it all ready for that day is in or Lakinda president of anything though they're like just get us the president talk about anybody that we can get in here the president Yeah, the YCN Someone in here the vice president came by one time It's too intimidated by this way So you know before we get too far along want to talk about another project you'd worked on recently which was the sheer RL Yes, a web series that just yeah it last week. A new web series for Josh called ShirRL, which is kind of like an unofficial follow-up to

something I did last year called the Archerio Paul Show. So like last year I did recreations of Arsignal Hall show interviews and then this year I did recreations of TRL interviews. And this year it's like much more like little sketches. It's like a Camelan Angiani playing Mariah Carey. But Mariah Carey actually lost her mind on TRL. This is true. Like she brought an ice cream cart on the TRL,

unbeknownst the Carson Daily, and then I had a meltdown. She had like three public meltdowns on TRL. And they're Googleable, you can see it. And then like, I think I've seen one. It's amazing. Yeah, there's one where she calls in and she's speaking absolute nonsense and then we have like another one which is like Terry Cruz from Brooklyn 9.9 and everything great

like the expendables. He's in one playing Diddy and Diddy was training for the marathon and Diddy ran the city but in that episode like he ran the entire time but he only ran a mile and TRL is like an hour long show. So he was running an hour, well, a mile an hour. Like, so like he was so funny, like I think I'm checking back, he's like, where are you at?

We're at 2.5 miles, like, you know, it's never, and he had such a sweat, like he clearly never did it. So we kind of find those like best moments from TRL and just kind of go off on those, like in the ultra seriousness, like interviewing Marilyn Manson back. Yeah, man, talk to it like, you know, it's so funny to look at Marilyn Manson now

because like back in the day, it was like, oh, he's so subversive, he's so cool. He's like, he's like, you know what I mean? It's like that's so 90s, that's like 90s. That's like 90s, come on. Yeah, it's like, he's missing a rib. Yeah.

It's probably from the wonder years, right? Well, no, the saddest thing I've ever heard. Oh, no. What's it about Marilyn Manson? Marilyn Manson, her Trenton Resonari, I apologize that I am goth racist. Those guys, they seem like they're both kind of like, you know, just has them in their strife. And they were walking their dog around like an arena.

Like because it's like that ceiling exercise, like you kind of give their dog, you know, the walking on these big arenas and the dog just kind of went crazy. It's not crazy. Just took off and ran, but didn't realize he was like on the fifth floor. Oh God. Oh, the blue off the thing. And I was like, for a guy like that, like Trent Rezner or whatever, they, that's the boy.

Like he's already depressed. Like, your dog commits suicide. That's a real bummer man my dog looked at me and thought I can either stay with this I'm gonna go over the edge I always take it out at the heart for civic center that's it that's the end of me we've all thought that we've all hold the scene the heart for civic center about that was part of it is he can't write a song to make himself feel better. Yeah No, that's cool. I'm really I haven't seen the series yet. I'm really curious to see Camille Nanjiani as more like he's really super super fun I have like a super good cast as your Casey Wilson place Celine Dion the oldest person ever on TRL

And the audience so not into her He's gonna have fun with all that stuff of stuff. Years ago, God, this must have been back in 04 or 05. We made a video for Red versus Blue, which is our web series, which is in the video game. Hey, 100%. We made a video that MTV Contacts, they said we want a video that we can show during TRL.

Oh, we thought this is gonna be fucking huge. Yeah, yeah. We're like, okay, we made a quick video about MTV and the TRL sp We thought this is gonna be fucking huge. Yeah, yeah. We're like, okay, we made a quick video about MTV and TRLs spoof and we sent it to them. We quadrupled our server infrastructure like this is it. Yeah, it's gonna be fucking huge. Everyone watching TRLs and it coming to our website. We watched it like live, you know,

we're like, oh shit, there it is. There's our video at SunMTV. It was like barely a blip. Like you couldn't even tell. That's hilarious. It's like, we blip. Like you couldn't even tell. There's a layer of oil. We just spent so much money preparing for this moment and it's like, you know, there's nothing. It was funny, I remember that bit.

But you know what it is, is like Tiro was like, it was about just Justin Timberlake and Mariah Carey and all that, people were not like, when we were at MTV, we did Human Giant, which is like the sketch I did with his, he's I'm sorry and Rob Hubel When we were there it's so funny because MTV just didn't know exactly what to do like they were better off doing shows Like the hills and Reverend runs house and stuff like that and so those are the same people who made those shows were giving us comedy notes So like we had a sketch my one my favorite sketches and maybe it's just my favorite sketch

I don't know if it was as good as I'm making it out to be, but it was called hot air balloon cops. So it was like, it was so it was like two cops that had a hot air balloon. They would do high speed chasing, hot air balloon. They can't keep up in there kind of at the victim of the wind. And I remember we got like a note from MTV and they're like, wait, I mean, it just doesn't make any sense because why would they be in the bulldoom? So that would be like the notes that we would get from MTV, they never quite got us. And I think the biggest mistake that they made, but the best thing that ever happened to us was they let us take over TRL for 24 hours.

We had that Times Square studio for 24 hours straight live. And they put us on maybe a two minute delay just in case we said that. But it was like the first time, like, MTV had really played like music. We had like a heavy metal band. We brought people from the wire. We had like, did all this kind of crazy stuff. And it became this like huge party.

And I think MTV just did not know. They were used to like just, you know, Britney Spears coming in and going, yeah, it's gonna be good. And I got a movie coming out called crossroads, you know, I mean when we have like this like punk like bands like Screaming into the microphone and it's like it was so yeah, they they were kind of lost at anything that was not Right in their wheelhouse like I mean the hardest they ever got was like Eminem. Yeah, if it was in the early Eminem Which was not even hard. Yeah, if it was in the early M&M, which was not even hard.

Yeah, if it was music there, whoa, hey, let's, let's come down here. Yeah, the demographics switch, like they kind of, yeah, I went to all girls. I mean, the, I had friends whose dads were executives and they were like, we're struggling to figure out who we are. Our, our show is the worst of that because our show is like aggressively male,

I guess for the male audience. And you are sketch, you know, our sketches like me is a human pinata getting my, getting hit by a stick in my stomach, exploding and then like blood and viscera all hitting the floor. Then we cut to like an oxima commercial. Exactly, girls. Your skin dirty is like, oh, I'm not the right audience. I just did not have the right ads. I mean, they just didn't like, you're talking about giving comedy notes and stuff. I mean,

once that happened, I mean, they weren't in that business. No, you know what I mean, they just didn't like you're talking about giving comedy notes and stuff I mean once that happened. I mean they weren't in that business. No, you know what I mean? They just they didn't have a barometer for now. They didn't have anything I was like old MTV you think of as being cool like new I mean I don't even know it's really on MTV anymore like girl code I guess catfish is that yeah, I don't even know That's not even still I don't know that's just dated myself Yeah, 16 and pregnant. I think that's a team pregnancy is always happening. It's like now it's 16 and pregnant again. Yeah, it's too lit to kill it back.

No. I miss her. We're probably sounding really out of it right now. Are these shows five years ago on? Wait, but I don't think anyone knows. But I don't think MTV is a talking point anymore. I don't feel like, you people are like, Oh, did you watch MTV?

I don't think like right you people like oh did you watch MTV like no I don't think anybody watches MTV right yeah no and there's like there's a fucking million child to choose from I remember being a kid and like having my TV and it literally had like physical buttons you have to hit reach channel and there were 12 of them and then it was like oh if you want more than 12 you have to buy like the box with the slider right in my grandma had a slider we didn't have a slider and so fun to be to be. That's how you saw it. It was 12 angry men, right? That was on or 12 angry viewers. Oh, right on MTV. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I remember like plopping 12 and then like watching. And then like, Matt Pintfield's like headbangers ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ricky Rack. It was a Ricky Rack man, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The cool stuff. Remote control is like one of my

all-time favorite shows, Colin Quinn and Ken O'Brien carried where it was like a TV game show. It was so funny. It was so great. Ben Stiller and John Stewart. Did they both start on MTV? Yeah, John Stiller too.

Adam Sandler too. Or Diddy? Yeah, before he was on Remote Control. He was in the opera man and he was doing all that stuff before SNL. What happened? And if you ever catch a Cosby show, you'll see Adam Sandler on there too.

Like you play like a friend of like Pios, yeah. Wow. I guess I never, I've seen that stuff in forever. Even remote control, I watched it. I watched a hell out of it when it was on. I'm always there. That my favorite challenge was like, they hooked you up to a bed and they just played

like 12 different music videos. That's a tiny bit like, I got, Alex Cooper. Uh, you know, like, boys and, he has to yell at every band. We should redesign one of our sets to look like the- I love it. When you were thinking on Shirar Al, did you have just-

Was it nostalgia or what was it that made it click for you? Like that I need to go back to your- You know, it was funny because we got such an interesting response. Like, Arsenio is something that I was obsessed with Oh, thank you very much Arsenio is something I love because there are a couple interviews that it were that I was obsessed with and One in particular we do with Seth Rogan was Gary Coleman and Gary Coleman came out and he was like Talking about how he totally gets laid all the time and he can't have sex with girls right now because it aids

gets laid all the time and he can't have sex with girls right now because it aids. He's saying some crazy crazy stuff talking about Dana Plato being naked and playboy and it was so uncomfortable and I remember seeing that interview and then I think roughly many well many years after that it came out that he was a virgin until he got married. I was like oh that's all like bullshit what he was saying there and that interview I was like, so I was like, oh, that's all like bullshit. What he was saying there. And that interview, I was like, I need people to see this interview. And I'd always show it to people. I'd be like, you gotta watch this interview. And so, Josh came to me one time and they said, what do you want to do? Like, you should do something here that you could never do anywhere else and that no one would ever buy. I was like,

if I recreate our sinneohaljuice. So that's how that first one came up. And so then, they're like, we'll do more. And I was like, I think we kind of did my favorite our Sineo. I was like, I was like, what else has that kind of flavor or tone? And we were kind of all thinking about it. And we jokingly just were like, when we were on set, we're like, Oh, next we got to do TRL. And it just came like this kind of like weird rallying cry in the back. And I didn't, I knew a little bit of things, but like I knew like the Mark Wahlberg M&M thing where they get into a fight where like M&M calls Mark Wahlberg, Marky Mark and then Mark Wahlberg calls M&M an asshole

like on air and we had like a Randall Park from Fresh Off the Boat and Joe the Truly from Brooklyn, I now do those guys. And it was like, but so then I got into this like thing where I started like watching all these clips, like 98 degrees, they're hilarious, Celine Dion. So it was like a kind of perfect thing because it just, it's people taking themselves seriously.

And then after a handful of years, like what they were making was so nothing. And it was so disposable. And not that, that's a bad thing, but it was treated like this is it. It's very, very, very, very, very, very, very know, like and you can't you can't say that for stuff like the who were rolling stone It's like no, they were at the forefront of something But this is like the forefront of like bubble gum pop

And they also were like catering to this audience and you know like these hard hitting interviews But they weren't you know, so it just it became like was like, oh, that feels like the right follow up to it. So like, well, that, it just is basically because of our Cineo, we found Thierryl, but once I did, I was so psyched because it really is, it defines an era of something. But if you've never seen Thierryl, it doesn't make a difference, because it really just sketches with people that you may or may not know. Yeah. Thierryl was so huge at the time. I mean, it was, yeah, I watched it every day in the summer. Oh, yeah, it was the best. That and MTV's Beach House.

Love being home for MTV Beach House. We'll just show with all the hot girls competed. Or was it hot guys? Single out? Yeah, single out that. Single out that. Single out that. Single out that was the best.

Chris Hardwick, the host, Jenny McCarthy, they would do guys and girls. So it would be like a girl in the front. And it would just be a general question. It's like, do you own a dog? And like, yeah, everyone says, yes, get it. Yeah, that's one of the TV shows I had to watch with my finger on the remote. Because my mom was, are you watching?

Oh man, I thought Jamie McCarthy was the hot. Oh yeah, yeah. So I was like, yeah. I was always like, Chris Hart, what is he doing with her? Like, why is he the guy that gets to be opposite her? That's bullshit. But it's not funny like the way that Chris is like, the career took a trajectory. Right. Because he was on shipmates. Another one of my favorite shows. You guys ever saw shipmates? No. All right. Shipmates, guys, you have to Google shipmates It was basically Like blind blabrty blind date. Yeah, okay, so it was blind date on a cruise ship

Oh, it was overnight dates on a cruise ship and so it was just people getting really drunk So I had elements of like real world because it was a longer date and it went so he was the host of it And it was like but it was basic these people were basic like they were just not like you're not good people They're like I remember there was like one episode was guy just like took a handful of sand and through it The girls face. Oh my god. They weren't getting along Along with you. It's like five-year-old stuff or what it was really like it was really really I'm saying the shipmates is like and they said he was like that which is a real like a low rent show but he was funny he's

always funny you know and then and then he just kind of boom stop drinking turned everything around and became this you know this now sharp person yeah yeah he's got such a great cross over between like the internet and television yeah such a huge internet presence and then you you know, his TV stuff, especially like at midnight, it's just crazy. Well, he's transcended a, like, he's a brand. He's the only, like, person that I know that is, like, actively a brand, because it's like, Nerdist is a brand. It's not even really, it's like, I guess he's the cultivator of that brand, but it's like, it's like, he is Nerdist and he is, Chris Hardwick, but they are, it's not like, it's, it's

interesting. It's like to be so singularly defined. Well, he made his niche pretty, you know, I mean, you know what he is, like clearly, like he's really smart and nervous. He's a nervous guy. And he hits the right demographic, like he and a doctor who, like they go back to him constantly.

Oh, yeah. And especially now to get that entire audience, like Guy Smart. Any host of the panel's a comic con, he does a great job. Cultivator emphasis on cult. Yeah. But you know, it's true.

It's like, you know, it's like amazing for thought to be like, yeah, my Tumblr, I'm gonna call it Nerdist. And this is what I'm gonna do. And this is like, you know, it's like sometimes that's the smartest thing. It's like everyone else is like, I'll be Paul Sheer.com. And he's like, Chris Harbock is not taking it.

It's not like his name as like Steve Jones right you know it's like he's like yeah nerd it's like that's the thing I'm always amazed at like that kind of smart thing yeah same kind of smart person created squatty potty guys these are the ideas a change lives so nerds are cool right yeah no they are but no it's not cool to be a nerd it's like cyclical right but it's also like it you know what it is it's like when everyone be a nerd. It's like cyclical, right? But it's also like, you know what it is? It's like when everyone's a nerd. Everyone's like, everything is nerdy.

It's like, but it's not. Like, people think binge watching is like nerdy. But it's not. No, it's not. Let's just enjoy. If we could have done it, you know, 20 years ago, or people could have done it 30 years ago, or whenever TV first came out, you know, 50 years ago,

they would have done it then, because like, that's the whole reason to keep people watching. It's like, you could leave cliffhanger, whatever. But if you could binge watch you, everyone would do it. And it's also like, but now also like, the stuff that's kind of cool, like the Marvel stuff is so popularized, it's not niche anymore. It's not like a thing where it's like,

yeah, like if you like Superheroes, like, yeah, so does everyone in the world. Yeah, it's like, it's not like, it's, but that wasn't the true five years ago. You know, before that, no one, you know, people are gonna know who Dr. Strange is in two years and that Benedict Cumberbatch movie comes out. That's crazy because that's like a fringe comic,

or not fringe, but he's enough that he's not really. Yeah, it's like an amp man. And that's like, you know. I'm not a big comic person. You know, I grew up in a small town. So we didn't get comics, but I've tried to catch up, I've tried to learn a bit. And my wife loves, you know, I'm not a big comic person. You know, I grew up in a small town. So I didn't, we didn't get comics, but, you know, I've tried to catch up, I tried to learn a bit. And my wife loves, you know, like the Marvel movies.

And I blew her mind recently when I told her, it was like the Avengers and the X-Men are in the same universe. Oh, wow. In movies, they're not because of studios. She was like, wait, what? And I was like, yeah, quick silver. Who is like her favorite? The next character is like, quick silver is gonna be an Avengers age of ultra,

and she was like, wait, but he was already in the up, and he's like, right, no, I know. She's gonna like, her mind will explode when Spider-Man swings on screen and cap to America free. He should stay, he should have his own, I don't like it. I don't like it. You know what I don't like? He deserves his own movie, nobody else, he's that,

he's the best superhero, with one of the best villain. He's one of the best villains. Or best group of villains. But only the first two are good. Please feel it. The first two Spider-Man are good. And then they have not yet done that again. And then they've kind of failed in a very big way in these last ones.

I'm like, you know what? Do it like the Hulk. Mark Ruflo is amazing. Yeah, he's awesome. As the Hulk. And it's like, I don't know if I need to see a Hulk movie But pop him in for all these little things because like sometimes those characters like I don't know if I need to see a Hock I movie or even no one wanted to see a Thor movie no I still don't think people want to see it I think you have to like kind of suffer through but I'll tell you like they kept an American movie. So I got a lot like that Captain America

Which your soldier was really good really really good again going back to my wife She cuz just she's not like a comic person. This is not she's not like that demographic. She Fucking hates Captain America, and I was like listen. I know you don't like Captain America watch Winter Soldier with me I hear it's good. Yeah, we watch it. She's like I think I like Captain America a little more now really It's I haven't seen it because I watched the first I think I like Captain America a little more now. Really? I haven't seen it because I watched the first one and I've never been a big Captain America guy and I was like watch, watch, watch. It's the first one.

Yeah, like I showed it to my wife too and she was like, ooh, I just actually had like a real nerd fantasy come true, which is I just wrote a Marvel comic book and it was a Guardians of the Galaxy team up. So it's tracks from Guardians of the Galaxy with Ant-Man in Miami. And it's kind of like a 48 hours or like a kind of story. They kind of team up to find this. Right around the Calac. Yeah, it's like real fun. That was really fun to do. That's awesome.

All right, well, I think we're a tie-on. We need to go ahead and wrap up. Sorry, real quick. What's up? So I know Gus and I at least were really, really huge lost fans. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I think one of my favorite panels was maybe before the last season. I think.

Oh, thanks, that's Haley's scenario. So I brought. Oh, the velvet painting one. Yeah, okay. I brought something. What'd you bring? He wouldn't show this to me. He was like, oh my gosh.

You're a sign of audience audience take a look at this It is demon Carlton and polar bear this like this lost viral art project thing that I did at Comic Con I got it was yeah, and so that was a real velvet painting that's actually hanging up in Carlton's office as we speak. Yeah, I just love like the nature of it, like kind of like crashing it the panel but in like a loving way. It was really fun, I remember. It was totally planned. Yeah, I mean, but yes, but I was still fun. But that was the most nerve-wracking thing because, you know, they had asked me to do it damon was a friend of fan of human giant and i was a fan of loss if we do this thing and it was you know show is kind

of on the coming to the last season people were really excited and like we want you to crash the panel and you know that's a hall h and hall h is the biggest panel and it's like a very highly sought after event you know people waiting online to hear and everything and almost the whole cast was there you know you'll crash it and i was, what is that going to be like though? The fans are going to revolt because I mean, luckily I think people recognize me when I came into it. But also, I was like taking, they're like, yeah, they'll get mad because you're taking time away from there. Question. So like, my heart was racing, like waiting down there, I had to cut someone online. You know, there's a pretty brings me in, reveal this thing that ultimately has no payoff until you go home and Google it because there's going to open

up this like lost art project. That was like a real nerve wracking thing. Only second to my second most nerve wracking lost experience, which was at the Paley Center. I hosted, I hosted their 10 year reunion and then I hosted the last season Paley Center There's talk at one point about Michael Emerson who I'm forgetting his character now on Ben and And John Locke those guys doing like a spin-off show not of their characters but like the former CIA hitmen and now they live in a small town and you know and sharing apartment and you know, and sharing apartment. Exactly, like some like spin off. And you know, we're asking all these questions. We kind of did it all through loss,

but like that was the week that that information was out. And I was like, so you know, you know, what about this? When can you talk this about this show and Terry Quinn will play John Locke, like Locke dies with me in the most Locke-esque way. And he was like, we're not here to talk about that. We're here to talk about lost. And it was like, my heart was a boor. And then thank

God for Michael Emerson who was able to come in and like make a joke out of it. And we were able to go on. But it was like so serious. Like Terry Quinn, as serious as he is on that show in real life. Not the guy who's going would be cracking too many jokes. We all shut down. Alright, but do you want me to sign that? Yeah. Alright, cool. Alright, well thanks for listening everyone. We'll be back next week with another episode podcast. A supplemental episode? Maybe. Alright.

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