Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Battling Intrusive Thoughts & False Narratives

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

This week, Janet is back on the co-host mic and getting Scheana’s take on the Bethenny interview. What was up with Lala stealing Brock’s house, the radioactive cat, and Rachel’s shifting narratives? Scheana addresses all of those lingering questions & more! Plus, BTS scoop from Scheana’s live podcast show over the weekend, which VPR castmates would Scheana love to see return, & who does Scheana choose in a game of FMK among the Toms and James? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Co-Host: @janetelizabethx “APPLES” available now to stream: http://itunes.apple.com/album/id1704946387?ls=1&app=itunes Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episGo to www.factormeals.com/goodasgold50 to get 50% offIt takes Poise®–Learn more at Poise.comGo to www.vroom.com to see what current ride is worth and check out thousands of cars to find your next oneGo to www.milkmakeup.com or checkout your local SephoraDownload the DraftKings Casino app NOW, signup with promocode HONEY ,and new customers get a deposit match up to ONEHUNDREDDOLLARS in casino credits when you deposit $5 or more! Only on DraftKings Casino with promo code HONEYGo to www.buffy.co with code SCHEANA to get 25% off your first orderProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. I gotta tell you something good Well, I'm like still fangirling over you a little bit right now. I'm still exhausted over me right now. Last night, my voice is like gone. I was supposed to go to the studio with the 27s after this to record a new track we're working on. I'm like, it's going to be a writing session today because my voice is gone. If you missed it, Sheena had a sold out podcast live show at the Bourbon Room and it was so much fun. Your performances like Jenny Ting and I were sitting together and we were like bumping the

bumps, screaming at the top of our lungs, like full on fangirling. We were like, oh my gosh, we know her. Like it was so fun. I was so proud of you. There were my, see my OCD anxiety brain focuses on the flub I had, the thing I didn't say, or like there were just like little moments like that where I was like, oh, I should have said this. And then I was trying to low key change the lyrics a little bit of apples, but it was just so loud that you couldn't even really hear it so when you're watching it it looks like i'm not singing the right words couldn't tell from where i was standing and we were like front front row on the side okay good losing our minds it was so so fun yeah so i wanted to shout out the maui fundraiser and then i was like oh my god i didn't do that when lexi was on stage so i was just like, don't hyper focus on those little details. It was such a good show. Those are things you might have noticed. But as an audience member, it was like perfect.

And we had so much fun. The audience was having so much fun. It was awesome. Okay, good. Yeah. I had the best time. So Adam Newell, he did great. He was amazing. So he has his YouTube show podcast and all that up and

Adam he was like hear me out what if we open with the band and good as gold and you just start the show I loved that with a bang and then as he was walking me through it he's like I've done these shows before I only did one at City Winery in New York. It was a very small venue, super intimate. Tom and Raquel and Nemo were my guests. It was a very different time and a different show, but it was great. I mean, it was probably half the amount of people, but it was just a different setup. There was no performance aspect. I did the splits. That was like the performance. No, I think kicking off with the Screamo good as gold version was so much fun. Your outfit was fire. It was just like, I mean, seriously, we were fangirling out and the whole, I think that like livened up the whole room. I think Adam was right. It was, by the way, Adam, Jason,

I didn't hear this. Jason was sitting a couple of people down. He was like, man, that man is good looking. And I'm like, and everybody afterwards was like, I think Jason has a crush on the host of the show. I was like, that's fine. that man is good looking. And I'm like, and everybody out there is like, I think Jason has a crush on the host of the show. I was like, that's fine. He is very good looking. No, he's so adorable. And I loved that he told the story of how we met at the live show. You're too good.

You're looking. You need to be working at Surrey. I'm like, he was like 19, maybe 20 years old. He was not legal to drink when I met him. And I'm like, you're working at Malibu Fish Grill, which bomb food. Yeah, I would eat there all the time. But I was like, let's I see more for you. Let's exploit those looks for some tips. Yes, sir. Totally. No, he's really cute. And he used to work at Pump too, right? Yeah. And then he worked at Tom Tom. So he just kind of hopped around all of the restaurants. All the Vanderpump places. Yeah. I feel like I've met him back in the

day at Pump at some point. Yeah. And that's where he met his husband. OK. Yeah. So, you know, thanks to Sheena pulling him out of Malibu. I love it. Here we are. Hey, you introduced me to my second husband. Yeah. I loved his first husband jokes, too. He was. Yeah. It was really good. No, he was making some jokes. We'll keep off the podcast for now. Last night, too. Yeah. OK. I have to ask one thing yes at the show if you were there it might be like on floating around somewhere yeah someone from the back they did a Q&A session someone in the back something something something rim job something something and I'm looking and I'm like did she talk about rim jobs recently that I missed I'm like is there a question she goes we had summer on stage with us and she was like, oh, maybe, you know,

have her do earmuffs or something. So Summer's covering her ears. And I'm like, I think I missed the beginning part of this. It was something like, let's talk about this rim job, something, it was all sex stuff. And I was like, what is the question? And Brock kind of said, like, we'll just drink to that. Yes to or above all or whatever.

I don't know Brock literally also he's like a Jax where he just says the complete wrong thing so in the car after it was me and Madison in the back Heather McDonald in front and our friend Carla and we're driving to Melrose place for our after party and Brock I, I was like, why would you kill Allie in a game of marry, fuck, kill? Why? Who would kill Allie? He said like Ariana, he would marry.

And then I forget who he said he would fuck if he even got that. Okay. And then, yeah, he was like, I'm going to kill. And everyone's like, we know the answer. Like, you can pick from any cast mate. I think he thought maybe it had to be from the girls.

So that's what he says. So we're driving to Melrose Place and he goes look I'm an asexual male and I was like what did you just say and he goes am I b-sexual and I was like oh my gosh I go oh my god you are not saying he goes what and I go you're a heterosexual he's like yeah that one that one that's what I meant I'm like don't going around being like, I'm an asexual male. Like, where is Sheena getting it in then? So he's like, no, I'm a heterosexual male. I'm like, I understand that. The game was any cast member. You were the obvious kill.

There was a very obvious kill in this group. Literally two very obvious kills. They don't have to be current cast members. It wasn't like only pick from the four women on the show right now. But I'm like, why are you going to kill Allie? And he's like, well, if I kill Katie, she's going to come back and haunt me. She'll actually kill him.

Yeah. I saw Allie for a second afterwards and she was laughing about it. She goes, when he was thinking like, who do I kill? Who do I kill? Allie said that she was nudging James and she was like, he's going to kill you. It's going to be you. It's going to be you. And then she was like, then he said, Allie.

She was like, me? She was like, kill James. I was preparing him to kill you. It's going to be you. It's going to be you. And then she was like, then he said, Allie, she was like me. She was like, kill James. I was preparing him to get killed. And all of a sudden, but she was laughing about it too. It was funny. But we were like, poor sweet Allie. I can't kill her. No. Oh, Heather McDonald killed it too. She's so funny. Her jokes about talking from the form of a baby on Instagram from baby grams was, I mean, we were cracking up. She was amazing. No, she was the perfect guest because what I did do at City Winery that was different than this show,

I had a stand-up comedian open up the show just so there was like that sort of performance aspect and a warm-up to introduce me and whatnot. And I thought about doing that too and, and just like having Heather McDonald open up. Yeah. But then Adam hosting it just kind of made sense outside of me. Yeah. And it was perfect for host.

I feel like she was the perfect guest. That's what I thought. Right in the middle. Yeah. He was like, you should see if Heather can be the guest. And I was like, that is a great idea because then she can still do her comedic bits and say what she wants to say and then totally I had the idea I was like well what if we do this game where it's like you start with the Karen you know everyone has something to say

about a Karen and then it just naturally goes into how unfortunately Rachel seems to be the new Karen okay I know you've talked about I. I know you talked about it last night a little bit with Heather, but I haven't actually had time to sit down and ask you, can I ask you some questions about this Bethany interview? Because I'm dying to know some stuff. And I watched your podcast with Ariana, which was amazing. And I thought you guys cleared up a lot. And it was great to get Ariana's feelings and opinions out there because, of course, she has them.

I know that she didn't, both of us didn't actually listen to the interview. We read a transcript of the recap because we didn't want to give her actually a listen. But I have like some questions about that that I feel like are still kind of floating around unanswered that I wanted to ask you today. Yeah. And no, that's fine. Because I felt like last week, I really just wanted to do my best at not making my show about me, you know, because the fans, the listeners, the haters, whoever, they really have an issue with me ever bringing anything back to myself. Well, don't tune in to the Sheena show if you don't want it to be the Sheena show. That's all I have to say. But last week I wanted to just do my best and let Ariana get her side out.

I mean, she was calm. She was articulate. I felt like she was empathetic and insightful and just all of the things. It was such a great interview, but I wanted her to be able to answer to what was just said about her because there were some really hurtful things that Raquel and Bethany said. Totally. Ariana doesn't have a podcast right now. You know, she might come back and do one again one day. And I know right after the scandal, she did call her daddy. Like, obviously, I think there's Joe Rogan and call her daddy. Two of the biggest podcasts out there. Right. So if you have an opportunity to do that, of course. Yeah. But that was also when it was really raw and fresh. Totally. This is more of a safe place with a friend

where she could actually just like kiki and like have it be a real moment to talk about it. And that's what I thought. And so I was like, I don't want to make any of this about me. When she made the restraining order comment, I was like, okay, we're going to go in on this a little bit. But my goal was just to let her speak

and just hear what she had to say. Because until you watch season 11, you know, you're not going to really get a lot of what she has to say. Because we're not doing podcasts right now unless we have our own. We're not doing interviews. You know, TMZ catches us on the street. We're not giving them much more than maybe a short soundbite. street we're not giving them much more than maybe a short soundbite so I was glad that she was able to come on and just have a safe space to discuss everything and then I'm seeing all the comments it's like oh we're still on this you have nothing else to talk about other than Rachel and blah blah

blah and I'm like first of all there was new information that just came out she just did a three-part tell all whatever you want to call it with 14 advertisements in it can I just came out. She just did a three-part tell-all, whatever you want to call it, with Bethany. With 14 advertisements in it, can I just point out? Oh, wow. Between all of that, so. Well, I had three ad breaks on mine and maybe six ads, so. Yeah, but also I even. Are you exploiting your guests?

No, and the thing is, I even told Ariana, I said, when Brock and I were asking her if she would be comfortable, you know, giving her side on mine. I'm like, we're all going to have to talk about it eventually. If you have something you want to address, you know, you're welcome to come on mine. And she was like, yeah. And then Brock goes, and don't worry, we won't do what Bethany did.

You know, we won't take any ad breaks. We won't make any. I was like, no, honey, I actually contractually. That's different. Bethany and Raquel were not friends before this. You and Ariana have not friends before this. No. You and Ariana have been friends for years. What I really liked about the podcast that you guys did is it felt like Ariana was very

much her true self. She's a very level-headed, calm, like, kind person. And I feel like the last kind of thing maybe that people stick with or, like, think of her as is, like, the reunion. Yeah. And that's not an Ariana I know at all. No. Like, that's somebody I saw for the first time. And, you know, I've been friends with her for six years now. Yeah. I've

never seen her that sad, angry, upset. So this was kind of a time to like address some of the things in the true form of who she is. Totally. You know, a very calm, kind human being. Yeah. And also when we take the ad breaks, it's kind of a time to just, you know, recollect your thoughts. Like, OK, we're going to go into this next. Are you okay with that? Speaking of, we are going to take one of those ad breaks and then we'll be right back. It's Friday and that means it is Factor Friday. America's number one ready-to-eat meal kit that can help you fuel up fast with so many delicious chef- and dietitian approved ready to eat meals

delivered straight to your door. I talk to you guys about this every week because it is what I eat every week, especially this summer. I have been so busy. You know, I've been filming. I'm constantly on the go. And one thing I just have not had time to do is think about food for myself and Brock. I make sure summer's fed. But outside of that, I don't want to go to the grocery

store and figure out dinner for us every night and lunch in between scenes and the occasional midnight snack. So with Factor, I always have something delicious, flavorful to fill me up and keep me going. Also, if you need an extra boost to support your wellness goals or, you know, just to feel your best for the rest of summer, you can try Protein Plus Meals with 30 grams of protein or more per serving, which has been Brock's go-to lately. Right now, my listeners can head to factormeals.com slash goodasgold50 and use code goodasgold50 to get 50% off. That's code goodasgold50 at factormeals.com slash goodasgold50 to get 50% off. And another thing that is important for me at home, as long as I am fed and I have a comfy bed, I am a happy girl. My listeners know I'm all about comfort and spending

time snuggling in bed with my baby girl Summer, which yes, I do. I bring her in the bed in the morning. And the reason, well, I love my snuggles, but also we have the most amazing sheets on our bed. I'm telling you that whether I'm working, relaxing, watching Coco freaking Melon, it's gotten so much better with Buffy bedding. So I have the comforter. I have the sheets. I have the pillowcases. I have it all, not just in Marina, also in Palm Springs. I have been sleeping with my Buffy comforter for years now. I just upgraded and got all new sheets and pillowcases. I'm telling you, y'all, it is a game changer. Brock literally got in bed a few weeks ago and he was like, wait, is this what new good sheets feels like? And I was like, yes, honey, it is. Buffy has Earth's softest bedding.

You can sleep cooler and he is normally a hot sleeper. So Buffy is great for both of us. Y'all can upgrade your bedding with the breeze sheet set by Buffy by going to buffy.co and use code Sheena for 25% off your first order. That's buffy.co, promo code Sheena for 25% off. But yeah, I do feel like I'm kind of still on a high from last night. It was so funny. Okay. Also, Summer Moon for her first appearance with her cast off. And she had the cutest little dress

on. She had her hair curled. She was like so adorable. She and Ocean running around. First of all, they're like BFF goals. It's so cute. Their friendship is like, I want that. They're just so, so cute with each other. And when Summer was on stage with you at one point, I don't know if anybody else could hear it other than like kind of your friends and family section, but Ocean was reaching for her going, Summer Moon, Summer Moon, when she was on stage. Why are you on stage without me? She was like, that's my girl. We're supposed to be doing this together. Right. And then I think Lala let her like run up for a minute and she got her moment. And both of them did not want to get off stage. were loving it no did you see summer had a little meltdown when i was singing apples

she wanted to be up there with me and it was just so loud and i wasn't even thinking that with the live performance i should have brought her headphones because she wasn't going to be like right there on stage when it was only two songs right you know the rest of the show wasn't so loud she was ready headphones are not to be front and center stage and ocean too when she was up i saw lala on the side of the stage and she was like come here come here come here like it's time to and she was like look around and i think at one point she said like no like to lala she was like no and i was like oh my god this is so cute no it was so fun but we have photos after of summer just crying.

And I'm like, she just like, and I saw as I'm like jumping, I'm like, hey, PPLES, nice to see Brock walking with her. And she's just like, and I was like, oh, I feel so, I'm like, it's only a two minute song, kid. We got this. You know, rather a meltdown to like get back on stage than like getting up there and being like scared of the crowd. Right. I feel like you never know how a kid's going to react to that.

Well, yeah. She loved it. I know. Both of them did. It was adorable. I was like, oh, you could do little stars. She was like waving to everyone. She was like throwing, I think somebody gave her a little bracelet. Yeah. Which a really sweet lady gave me this boy mom bracelet. Oh, yes. She told me she had something for you.

I think. Yes. Okay. Yes. She was so sweet. But I think they gave Summer a bracelet. She was like tossing it back and forth with them on stage. I was like, oh my God, she's a natural born star. No, it was so cute. What do you think is in future for your little boy? I don't know. We'll see. I guess if I've, we'll see. How have you been feeling? Feeling good. Feeling good lately. Yeah. Yesterday was so hot out. So it was just like,

I was sweating up a storm, but good. Yeah. Overall, I feel like second trimester, everybody says is like easy. The best. I just the other day taped or a saran wrapped a watermelon and two cantaloupes to Jason and made him do stuff around the house with me to see like, I was like, we'll see. Cause he was like, Oh, it's not, he, he doesn't think it's at that bad, I think. And at first he was like doing stuff. He's like, Oh, I can squat. And then when he tried to bend over and he realized you can't do that, he was like, oh, well, that part's hard. And I was like, that's yeah. Right. That's the part. Yeah. You get to the point in the third trimester when you're like at the eight, nine month mark and you're like, I can't tie my own shoes. Yeah. I

was just like, I'm starting to get there. And then now, like when I get out of bed, I'm like, can you give me a lift? And Jason will put his arm up. Yeah. Hold on to it instead of trying to lift with my belly. But yeah, it's yeah. All around good pregnancy stuff. Good. Well, you look great. Your pictures of Jenny Ting, you guys holding hands and doing all that was so cute. We're bump twins. I love her. I love it. It's so much fun. We're one month apart. I know you guys are both having boys. And that's how like Lala and I, we were three weeks apart, but then she delivered three weeks early. Yeah.

So the kids are going to be the same. We send each other summer and ocean content. We're like, this is going to be our boys. We're like, this is so cute. And I love that you're both having boys. I know. It's going to be super fun. I love her.

Yeah. She's just great. No. So good. Oh, such a. And we know Jenny through Raquel, which I have. I'm sorry. So many burning questions about

I have to get off my chest. OK. All right. OK. First one. Timing wise with like the Bethany interview. Yeah. Why now? Do you think that Raquel like just got out of her treatment and she wanted to do something as soon as she got out? My first thought was, well, Bethany is, you know, really rich. Like, yeah, she has millions and millions of dollars. Maybe I was like at first before they kind of cleared this up, I was like, she must be getting paid like 100 grand or something to do this podcast interview. They said later in the comments, I think Bethany said she was not paid and then kind of said like, we'll see if she gets paid.

But I'm like, why now? Like, what do you think timing wise of like how why like that's what's so weird because it's like you're not coming back to the show you are wanting to change your name you're not wanting to be in the spotlight you don't want to come back to LA you don't want to be a part of this friend group you don't want to speak to Tom Sandoval anymore supposedly supposedly right but what's also interesting noticed, and this could be a total weird coincidence, but the day the interview came out, like two weeks ago on Wednesday, Emmy voting was the next day on Thursday.

Interesting. And I'm like, I don't know that they were trying to hurt something with Vanderpump Rules, but that was just a weird coincidence as well. So then when, you know, part three came out, I was like, oh, apples is dropping today. We can't get it on Spotify in a day. We can't get it on Apple Music in a day. But we can get the lyrics video up in a day. I love it.

I loved the timing. You were going to release it like in a week or two after that, right? Yeah, I was going to. Last night was going to be the debut. So I had the lyrics video made so I could send it to the venue and we could make sure we could sync up the audio with the video. Because when you're especially performing a song live, you can't hear every word. Even when I sent it to my mom, she didn't realize I was spelling apples. She thought I was I was saying hey keep the alias how you like that or something and I was like oh that's funny no that actually does work too but I was

like no it's a pples I'm glad that you actually did that because the everybody was singing along with you and knew the lyrics then already so it was kind of fun for like audience to participate in singing it instead of hearing it for the first time and then going home right I just wanted them to be able to download it when they got home and so it was like the original plan was to have it released around then and then yeah we had the artwork made which was not ready yet to release so the song hopefully the day this podcast drops the song should be out yeah that is the goal are you doing apples merch that's what i want to do too i just made my sister made me the hoodie last night with the 27 and the apple on it they're like this can't be a one-time thing i was like you guys i got everything on amazon i just

made it myself you gotta release it i think we want some apples merch we need to do some apples merch so working on that okay yeah another uh. Another Bethany Raquel Rachel. I don't know what to call her. I, so weird. The thing is, whatever comes out of my mouth, if I'm looking at a note that I have or something, you know, when I write down Rachel, if I want to address it, whatever. But I feel like when I'm just telling a story, it's easier for me to just say Raquel because I've known her as Raquel for years so long you know okay my question then okay timing wise kind of got that but like yeah why Bethany because as far as I

know they didn't know each other from the Bravo universe before any of this yeah as far as I know they've never met no so why Bethany like you know she we I mean behind the scenes maybe it's something that viewers don't understand but you can get paid for these interviews. She could have gone on and probably got. Well, and I did hear she had offers. Yeah. So she could have gone on to probably some pretty big networks, podcasts, things like that. And yeah, pretty paycheck, which, you know, she's claiming she's in debt and made no money and all this kind of stuff. So why Bethany? My first thing was Bethany's rich. She paid her. But when they kind of disputed that, I was see there was like a TikTok or something I think that Bethany did where she made like a sympathetic comment about Raquel's situation and I know

I saw somewhere that Raquel's mom I guess was like a big fan of Bethany so what I heard was that they reached out to Bethany and I feel like maybe they thought out to Bethany. And I feel like maybe they thought, oh, well, Bethany's already, you know, sympathetic towards our situation and what she's going through. Even when Bethany had never seen the show. She knows nothing about Vanderpump Rules. I'm like, Howie Mandel also.

I'm like, come on. Literally, Howie Mandel 2.0. Because that's what the viewers who invest their time in years and years of watching, they want to see somebody who knows what they're asking. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was really strange. And yeah, the whole, I guess, I don't know the whole part with Bethany. I'm like, you know, here's the irony is like, here's Raquel talking about everybody's made money off Scandival except for me. First of all, girl, you could have made a merch account,

right? You could have sold merch just like everybody else. You could have put the other woman on a T-shirt and sold it. Did Sabrina Carpenter or someone do that with, it was something like negative that was said about her, but she literally put it on a sweatshirt. I mean, might as well. She could have made homewrecking merch. Yeah. People would have bought it.

Right. I mean, there was people who were out there, but I'm like, here she is, the irony, doing a podcast for free. And while she's on that podcast, complaining that she didn't make any money. I'm like, girl, do you not realize that this podcast is the opportunity, this interview is the opportunity you could have made money on? Right.

I feel like maybe her PR team, I feel like maybe her PR team felt like they could control the narrative more if they went with someone who was already sympathetic towards her, you know, situation, whatever you want to call it. If she went with like ABC News or TMZ or something that they wouldn't have any control. And with someone like Bethany, they could maybe control the narrative a bit. But worth losing the paycheck that she's complaining about over. I'm like, it just, I don't know. It feels like, I don't know. I felt the same way when Tom did Howie's interview.

I'm like, oh, how convenient to pick someone that's never seen the show before. Right. Because they can't ask the follow-up questions. He said, who is Sheena? Right. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like when he said that, I'm like,

I'm like, why are we watching this? And it's almost insulting as viewers because I'm like, when my gosh. Like when he said that, I'm like, I'm like, why are we watching this? And it's almost insulting as viewers because I'm like, when you listen to these podcasts, you're screaming all these follow-up questions at them and they don't hit any of them. No. And you're like, what's going on here?

So it's like, I guess it's easier to portray the victim role to somebody who doesn't know the history. Yeah. And I think with Bethany's whole reality reckoning movement that she's trying to start. Is it a movement? Is it an idea? I don't know. There's a nail in the coffin for that. But

I feel like some of Raquel's narratives that she told you know fit within this movement she's trying to do. But let's remind ourselves, this affair did not happen on the show.

Yes. This was not a part of season 10. It was a secret from season 10. It was something that they literally tried to cover up with Schwartz. Yep. Like, this was not a storyline. There's a lot of scheming.

So if you want to say this was a whole thing to try and save the show, who was going to tell production that this was the plan? Right. Nobody knew. We're talking about saving the show. Ariana saved the show by went as soon as she found out which Tom and Raquel wanted to keep it. They wanted to deal with this behind closed doors. Ariana called production. She's the one who brought it on the show. Yeah. But I did. I thought that same thing when she if she's almost insinuated that production kind of like producers ask you guys to meet with people or do things. Yeah. You know that you

always have the right, I think, to say no to. But they're like, hey, you know, we're going to set up a dinner with the girls and, you know, everybody. But if you're not speaking to somebody, you can say, no, I'm not going to that. Right. You're going. She makes it sound like this was a production production set up. And and i'm like first of all if production asked you to sleep with tom for seven months behind closed doors what you just said yes and then you said blamed it on them later 19 000 an episode so i guess i'll do what they want me to do like what so i'm like this isn't and it all happened behind closed doors off the show they had to then bring cameras up out of because

of Ariana. Yeah, because she alerted production. Hey, this so for Sandoval to say, you know, Ariana was never honest about the truth of their relationship. Look, if I'm being honest, there are definitely things with Shay and I back in the day, Rob and I, that I wanted to keep, you know, private. I wanted to keep a little bit of privacy, but that's not what we signed up for. So if Ariana was doing that out of what I think respect for Sandoval, because just like when she covered for him with Miami girl, she didn't want people to think the worst of him. Right. So if she was hiding anything, I think it was out of protecting him and out of respect for him. Totally. And you guys only get I mean, I think it was out of protecting him and out of respect for him.

Totally. And you guys only get, I mean, I think people think maybe that it's like Ed TV or whatever that old reality TV movie was back in the day where cameras are around you guys 24-7. Unfortunately, because production involves sound people, camera people, all these people that they are in unions and not allowed to work like more than 12 hours or I don't know what it is, but they're not following you guys around 24-7. So, you know, if you do have a fight with your significant other off camera, it's like, well, yeah, that might be, I don't know how many hours are in a week, but like if you're filming 40, let's say, then like, yeah, a lot of stuff happens off camera. And it's not like, you're going to be like, Hey, we got into a fight last night. We resolved it,

but let's talk about it again on camera. like there's a lot of stuff that will happen yeah and like i don't think that's that strange to like not bring up every fight or little thing and if they felt like their relationship was on the rocks you know that's something that's not necessarily going to make it better right like for example i feel like brock and i are in a really good place in our relationship, but we go at it. And this is the first relationship that I've been okay with having some fights on camera, showing those aspects of our life because that's real, you know? And yes, how we work through it, but I'm like, everything's not perfect. No one has a perfect relationship. We disagree on parenting. Marriage is hard.

We disagree on who watches our kid because, you know, my mom has her opinions and then Brock wants this person. But then it was just like, there's so many things. But I'm like, that's a part of our story. We talk about it on this podcast. I talk about it on the show because that's the reality. Well, it's real and it's relatable. Yeah.

I think most people probably, especially when they have kids or have something going on in a marriage, it's, you know, that's relatable. Yeah. Something also tie into Brock with all of this. There was a comment made by Raquel on the Bethany podcast about how Brock was going to make an offer on the house next door to you in Palm Springs and that Lala stole it from him. And I was like, I had never heard about this. Right. So when I heard that, I was thinking, I'm like, wait, Lala, when did you close escrow? And then I remember it was actually the day we shot the reunion because then we drove out to Palm Springs the next morning. Right. That was her first day in her house. So I was like, OK,

Raquel and I were still friends when you made the offer. I was trying to think if there was a way that I said something that made Raquel think that. Yeah. I was like, where did this come from? The only thing I could have said to her was, maybe when we were in New York or whatever, I was saying how Brock went over next door to talk to the neighbors about my friend putting an offer on the house. We wanted, because there were other offers from other neighbors who wanted to get it for a rental property.

Right. And I had Brock go over and we're like, no, no, no. Like we need this house for Lala. I see. I don't know if there was some confusion with that, but I'm like, do it like a more like a pocket listing kind of thing and sell it to my friend who's not going to be renting it out. Right. And I'm like, this is my, you know, forever home until I get a bigger home in Palm Springs. And if I'm going to have new neighbors, I loved our neighbors. They were so sweet. I'm like, can you please pick my friend? Yeah. It was never Brock wanted the house. Well, I was like, what? Why would Brock want the house

next door? You guys have an amazing house in Palm Springs. What are you going to build a bridge and have it be like, I don't know, compound? I was like, what is happening here? I had never heard of that. Yeah. You know. No, that was so weird. OK. So there's no truth to that. No. Like anything like that. No, there were. Oh, God. There were a lot of things that she said that there was not truth to. Yeah. Oh, I also want to know. She said that. OK, this is my thing. She said Tom was offered a producer credit for season 11, which I was like, if any of you guys were offered a producer credit, it would give you more control over some of the editing, some of the casting. Right. You know, scenes maybe you would editing, some of the casting, like, you know,

scenes, maybe you would get a little bit more say on, like, you know, how the show runs, how it's produced. So I'm like, there's no way Tom would get offered a producer credit and not take it. No. So if he got offered a producer credit, you would see in the credits of the show, producer Tom Sandoval. Stay tuned, I guess.

I'm like, but it's not how it works, you know? Yeah. And also when Raquel said, you know, that she didn't want to come back to the show for her mental health, but then she also said she would have come back to the show if she was making as much as Tom and Ariana.

So it was like. I was wondering that. She was like, I wouldn't come back for my mental health unless you paid me enough. Then I'll destroy my mental health for, you know, Whatever her episodic rate is, there's a dollar amount on what she is willing to risk her mental health for. She contradicted herself a lot in that. also said something about like well everybody on the show has cheated or done something like this and i've just gotten like the worst of it or the worst response to it but i'm like for me as a viewer i've seen every episode of vanderpump you know a lot of the cheating stuff happened early on in the show when everybody's living in apartments dating they don't own homes together yeah it's not marriages like i thought of tom and ariana as a married couple like it definitely is like life partners, you know, like a common law spouse or whatever it's

called. Very much so. Yeah. I want the if Ariana didn't want the paperwork like I didn't see them as any different than like Jason and I know. But I think a lot of the cheating for me as a viewer happened early on when the stakes were a lot lower. It's like, yeah, we were in our 20s. Right. And it was like cheating on both ends you know Kristen slept with right sorry Kristen most of Tom's friends right and Tom yes and yeah and then yeah Tom and Ariana had their thing when him and Kristen were still together but Kristen was already sleeping with James and it was just and Jax and it was so messy the stakes there were just you hurt people's feelings right like you have to list your home for sale and potentially lose I don't know money or whatever so I'm I'm kind of confused why she

thinks she got it well I'm like well of course you got it harder than anyone else also none of those cheating things those were all kind of like like you know we know the Kristen and Jack's like drive movie drive situation was like that time it's like not like this seven month long love affair where people say they're in love with each other yeah and I'm like this is why it was so you know so much bigger for you it's like nobody else was really a mistress where they saw a long term relationship that they've seen for eight ten ten years, whatever, however long Tom and Ariana were together, on the show be destroyed. That was a much bigger deal. Just like so many different elements and levels

of this affair and betrayal. It wasn't just like, oops, I banged your friend once. I'm sorry. Which also, by the way, those took years to come back from. It wasn't like after Stassi backhanded Kristen, they were best friends sipping rosé the next day. Right. No. It took years. Totally. And everybody refusing to be around each other and all of that. I mean, Stassi left the show after that for a while. Like, yeah, I think that the others still had their blowback and stuff. This was just more

because the stakes were way higher in this situation. Yeah. My question is, OK, for restraining order and all of that stuff that happened, I had Raquel reach out to me. I think I've mentioned this before, like a month or two after everything happened. And she said, like, thanks for reaching out the day of and basically, you know, telling her she should apologize, that stuff. Has she reached out to you at all? And if she did and was seemed apologetic, would you hear her out? I had been, I mean, up until this podcast, literally, and I still, I haven't blocked her or anything like that. I had been waiting to hear from her because I felt like it would have been a much different conversation now after her getting out of this facility and everything.

I absolutely would have heard her out. But now that the podcast was the nail in the coffin, you know. She really downplayed your guys' friendship in that. I was watching that and my jaw drew. I saw clips of it when she was talking about you and basically she's like I'm her cat sitter and I'm like what when Heather brought that up at their show last night how hard is it to watch a cat first of all she said because of mercury shots or something I'm like Penny Lane had a radio iodine procedure done on her thyroid and for

three weeks was radioactive and couldn't be around anyone under the age of 18. I have a baby. Right. And also I was breastfeeding at the time, so I was worried about that as well. We still had our house in San Diego. Raquel needed a place to stay. So I was like, well, you know what? Because my mom and sister were planning on just checking on Penny, making sure she had food and water. But cats are self-sufficient. Litter box, food, water, occasional cuddles, you know, they're fine. I've watched your cats before. You just kind of get to be at your house where you have good snacks and drinks and they're just kind of there. Right. And also while Penny was radioactive, they said even adults had to have less than an hour time within a few feet of her per day.

So Raquel really didn't have to do anything. It was also three weeks out of the six months. Right. I mean, for what you, I mean, I was around, it was not being filmed, but like you gave her a place to stay. I mean, like, it's not like she was paying like, you know, you, how much your apartment cost.

No, it was $1,000 towards my $4,300 rent. Right. And she took care of electricity and parking, not cable. Couldn't stock it with toilet paper. I was going to say, I went over there once. It was like, you had just gotten back and there was like no toilet paper, no paper towels, no water, that stuff. The Brita had like mold in it. And I'm like, girl, yeah, come on. Like, have you placed around it? And then I reminded myself reminded myself oh she's never lived on her own before so then I just felt like I needed to be the mom in the situation where I had to walk her through when you live alone when you have a roommate when it's not your boyfriend taking care of you who is wiping you do what do you what are you doing without toilet paper in the apartment that yeah there's mean, you did a lot for her.

You were a very good friend to her to hear her kind of like downplay that on the podcast and basically be like she, you know, like she really was like a little sister. It was everybody, I think, saw that relationship and that was around you guys. That was the truth. Yeah. So to see her kind of downplaying it, I was like, what is an act like she was doing me favors on my podcast as if like my podcast was struggling and i needed her to save the show she asked me after her breakup with james someone who struggles with public speaking and always is very rehearsed

and i mean she had if you watch it i think that one's on my patreon but she had a list of all of her handwritten notes that she was like, I need to say this and then I need to say this in this way and I want to say this. And I was like, don't worry, it's not live. It can be edited. But she came to me and said, I want to share my story. I'm only comfortable doing that with you. Can we do a podcast together? And I was like, fuck yeah, I've been asking you to do one with me for so long. We only did one together during the pandemic with me, Brock, her and James in Palm Springs. Yeah. This one was so different because she had so much she wanted to say. So should I say that you used me as an outlet? You know, I'm not saying that we were friends.

Well, it's interesting that she's saying this while on Bethany's podcast. It's like, right. I do not see this side by side double standard. Like, he doesn't know what that is. I don't. Yeah. We're going to take another break. All right. Now let me tell y'all about what I have been putting on my face. First thing before I put my makeup or moisturizer or anything. And that is my milk makeup hydro grip primer. I had never used a primer before unless I got my makeup professionally done until I got this milk makeup one because I heard it was the best. And I'm telling you, I will never use another primer. When I was on set for over 12 hours for my Good as Gold music video, my makeup did not budge.

At my live show last week with all of the lights jumping up and down, performing so hot, my makeup did not budge. And I can only chalk that up to it's the Milk Makeup Hydro Grip Primer. This primer leaves your skin with a dewy, glowy finish. I'm telling you, your makeup is not going to budge. You could run a marathon and your glam is still going to be on point. On top of that, it is 94% natural. It's vegan, clean, cruelty-free, paraben-free, silicone-free, oil-free, fragrance-free, and wait for it. Yes, it's also gluten free and they have 4,700 five star reviews. 4,700. So if that doesn't say something,

I don't know what does. I, if I were you, would head over to your local Sephora or get yours at milkmakeup.com. And this episode of Shenanigans is also brought to you by Poise Ultra Thins. So as you all know, because I've talked to you about this on Shenanigans multiple times, not only am I in love with being a mom, but when it comes to all things motherhood, I think it is so important to be transparent and to talk about the things that not everyone talks about. But here on Shenanigans, that's exactly what I like to do. I like to be open and honest about all of the things that might be embarrassing to talk

about normally. But I'm like, look, women, after we have a baby, things just hit a little different down there. And the more I have been performing with my band, the more I have been jumping up and down on stage, the more I've noticed, yeah, I get a little bit of bladder leakage. and that is why I have to make sure I always am wearing my poise ultra thins when I am performing. A lot of women use period pads for their bladder leaks after having a baby, but let's be honest, period pads are not designed for pee. Poise ultra thins, on the other hand, are. So poise Ultra Thins are the brand's thinnest protection

that help keep you clean, dry, and fresh throughout the day, whether you're chasing your kid, jumping up and down on stage, or just, you know, living your best life. The little moments really are so important, and Poise Ultra Thins are such a good way to enjoy motherhood without compromise. It takes poise. Learn more at poise ultra thins are such a good way to enjoy motherhood without compromise. It takes poise.

Learn more at poise.com. I was expecting, you know, her to come into this when I saw like the transcript of the interview and bites and stuff online. I thought it was I was hoping to see a lot of accountability here. And instead, what I feel like she said is like, oh, I like I was assaulted, but I was still the villain and she blamed there was a lot of blame game oh Ariana and I weren't that close she know wasn't really like a big sister there was a lot of like things that I'm like oh she's not taking accountability really at all here she's shifting blame to a lot of different people yeah so I don't even know how to make a question out of that but like like, how did that make you feel? And, you know. I feel like she was just trying to make this, you know, public spectacle

about her allegations against me filing the TRO and all of that because I think she thought it would like maybe reframe the narrative and people would see, oh my gosh, she's the victim. Not Ariana. You know, Raquel was the victim.

When I know for a fact, Raquel called people that night after I pushed her and said, you know, Sheena acted reasonably. I deserved it. I would never press charges when someone had brought up like, oh, are you doing anything about this? She was like, oh my God, no. I totally deserved that. Now I think she said I saw somewhere that I socked her in the eye. And again, I'm like, I don't do that. Yes, I did. I pushed you.

You grabbed my wrist. I pushed you away from me. I didn't want you touching me. I pushed you away. Well, I remember when you described it to me, I think the next morning or soon afterwards. To me, it sounded like what I call a bratty girl push, where you're like, just like,

you know, you're like, how could you do that? It's like how you fight with a sister where you're like, get away from me. And you just like, kind of, you know. And I was so fired up with a sister where you're like, get away from me. And you just like, you know. And I was so fired up because I just found out that she had been lying to me for seven months, but also zero emotion. Right. If that were me, I would be sobbing.

I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. I don't know how I like, but it was just like, whoops. Yeah, got caught and I I guess like if she's gonna double down now about that night why not show up to court then like why did she because she was in Tom Sandoval's bed that's why paparazzi saw her leaving that next morning okay well it's like you know either show up in court if you really believe that this happened and fight it but like her not showing up. And I feel like she backed down after that.

From what I heard from mutual friends, she was like, no, I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have filed that. And now it's like you're doubling down and being like, no, but I was the victim. And I'm like, first of all, Raquel, did I try to contact you once after New York? I have never tried to speak to you again. So you got a restraining order.

For harassment or something else. And it's like, this person hasn't tried to speak to you again. So you got a restraining order. For harassment or something else. And it's like, this person hasn't tried to contact you one time. You said first it was a cooling off period. And then you're saying she changed her story so many times. And it didn't make sense. Because then you also told Andy Cohen that you regretted it. And you wanted to dismiss it. But now you're doubling down and saying you were assaulted.

I thought it was respectable when she said, like, I shouldn't have done that because I don't think she should have done that. And I having, you know, seeing you go to court, leaving summer.

I mean, I saw you behind closed doors crying about having to deal with this stress, leaving, you know, summer, you know, with your mom where she's safe and everything. But like having to spend a whole day getting ready for court,

going to court across town in the rain. Like, I don't know. So when she backed down about that, I was like, well, at least she's starting to do the right thing here. Yeah. But at the end of the day, I think this provided me some closure.

You know, I've fully accepted I'm never going to get any sort of apology from her and I don't need it anymore. At this point, this is just who she is. She is not capable of taking accountability. And her actions and her behavior just further show this is not someone I want in my life.

It's not the person I think you knew. It's not. That's why I was like, I'm mourning the loss of my friend Raquel while asking myself, who the fuck is Rachel? It's two different people. knew it's not it that's why i was like i'm mourning the loss of my friend raquel while asking myself who the fuck is rachel it's two different people very good way to put it it just but i feel like her doing this and her dismissing our friendship and her acting like it was all of that it has helped me fully move on from anything I was still feeling about her I really hoped that she was going to come out of this facility have a diagnosis have a treatment plan yeah and take accountability and say I realize what I've done and I'm working

towards not being like that anymore instead of done and I'm working towards not being like that anymore instead of excuses. And I feel like all she learned in treatment from what I'm seeing in that interview is a new buzzword. She kept saying like vitriol, like over and over again. And I was like, I haven't never heard you say that word until now, but it definitely wasn't the accountability that I was hoping to see with her. Yeah. No. And then, then you throw Graham now hippie. Oh yeah. On top of it. Yeah.

She kind of tried to back out of that, that yeah, there was a lot of blaming of everybody else around her. And I felt like Bethany was just trying to steer it into her narrative of how reality TV is toxic. And I'm like, these two things are not, I don't know. It just didn't align for me. It was not, I think they thought they ate and left no crumbs. And I'm like, these two things are not, I don't know.

It just didn't align for me. It was not, I think they thought they ate and left no crumbs. And I'm like, oh guys, no, like this is, this is not it. Yeah. It was kind of a bummer. It was, but at the end of the day, I feel like I have my closure. You have closure, that's good. You know, I still, I wish her the best.

I hope she continues to get the help she still needs and work on herself and stay in therapy and you know just try to be a better person because she did a really fucked up thing for a really long time and I just hope one day she can realize that instead of this doubling down not taking accountability narrative because that just doesn't fly yeah it's always good to work on yourself I hope she does too yeah and we'll see I mean and hopefully one day I don't think she can she's forgiven herself yet maybe yet I think she's still kind of getting there. So she needs, I think, to work on herself, become a better person so she can forgive herself.

And then maybe once she does that and take some accountability, maybe some other people will too. Until then. Okay. That was my last question. Okay. For about that. But I have a million others.

Okay. Rapid fire. Just some general ones. Enough about Rachel, Raquel, Bethany. That was my last one. I would love for that story to just die on the same hill that Bethany is on with this fucking podcast. I think I got all my questions out.

Okay. Last break, and then we'll be right back with some more fun questions. And Vroom, Vroom, yes, Vroom, is the better way to buy and sell used cars. So if you're looking for your next ride, go to Vroom.com now to shop thousands of cars right from your phone. Y'all, with Vroom, you never have to haggle or negotiate the price of a car so you know you're getting a good deal. Best of all, when you buy a car on Vroom, they'll deliver it straight to you. You have a full week or 250 miles, whichever comes first, to make sure your new ride is right for you. Plus,

all cars on Vroom.com come with a 90-day limited warranty and one year of nationwide roadside assistance giving you peace of mind while you're on the road. So not only can you buy a car on vroom.com, but also you can sell or trade in your old car too. No more driving around, getting appraisals you aren't sure of, fair value, all of that, no more posting online or dealing with buyers and their endless questions and haggling over the price. Like, no, not with Vroom. When you sell your car to Vroom, you get an instant offer in as little as two minutes. So all you need to get started is your license plate number or VIN, then just answer a few questions about your car and Vroom gets you a price instantly. If you

decide to sell your car to Vroom, they'll come pick it up free of charge. So sell your car to Vroom or trade it in and find something you like on Vroom.com. It's a better way to buy and sell used cars. So head over to Vroom.com now to see what your current ride is worth and check out thousands of cars to find your next one. That's vroom.com. Vroom.com. And now step into a world of nonstop action on DraftKings Casino. Play the classics like blackjack, roulette, and slots, plus enjoy exclusive games you can't find anywhere else. Right now, new customers can get a deposit match up to $100 in casino credits when you deposit $5 or more. You might have seen me post about this on my Instagram. My reel is still there if you didn't see it and you want to

go watch it. It's really easy. All you have to do is sign up, select the offer, make your deposit, and start playing from a full suite of games. Your way is the only way to play on DraftKings Casino. You can play online, on your own time, in your own space, within your means. It's safe, secure, and reliable, so you can deposit and withdraw your cash whenever you're ready. Download the DraftKings Casino app now. Sign up with promo code HONEY and new customers get a deposit match up to $100 in casino credits when you deposit $5 or more.

Only on DraftKings Casino with promo code HONEY. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Please play responsibly. In partnership with Hollywood Casino at Charlestown Races in West Virginia. All games regulated by the West Virginia Lottery in Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org.

21 and over. Physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Void in Ontario. One per opted-in new customer. Minimum $5 deposit. Minimum $100 match in casino credits, which require one times playthrough within seven days. See terms at casino.draftkings.com slash players choice. Restrictions apply.

All right. Hit me,ings.com slash players choice restrictions apply all right hit me janet all right i have just some general questions you've we talked about this a couple weeks months ago i don't even know the time where are you now with ocd and anxiety i thought it was very brave of you to share what you're going through and i know that you mentioned like at the show last night that you know you definitely were very anxious about making sure that it you know was a success which it was so where are you now how are you feeling and yeah where are you in that process I had a lot of people actually come up to me last night and thank me and that just meant the world to me because I had this one girl and she was probably early 20s and she goes until hearing you on your podcast say about intrusive thoughts she goes I had no idea that that's what was wrong with me and now her mom has taken her to someone and they've diagnosed her and that's amazing she was just like that helped me so much so she's like please continue to talk about

that and I said I will I was like I know recently we haven't done too many updates on that, but I'm glad you asked because that just last night I was like, I kept trying to, I was like, I've got really good makeup right now. I don't want to cry, but that's why I talk about these things on this podcast. And I like to be so open because there are so many silent struggles that people deal with. Totally. And miscarriage was one of the first ones that I opened up on this podcast and I had family members and friends who I had no idea had had multiple miscarriages reach out to me. Yeah. And then when I started talking about my intrusive thoughts, like I didn't want to even for almost a year in therapy, open up to my

therapist about that. Cause I'm like, she's going to think I'm crazy. Then I'm like, no, I think she hears it all. It's good for anybody to think you're crazy. It's a therapist. Yeah. And my therapist is amazing. And I felt like that was a safe space. And when I'm, I don't know what I was at, at that point over a year postpartum, but she she's like I think you've been dealing with postpartum OCD and then we started doing some of those exercises and questionnaires and stuff and just realizing that was such a weight lifted off me yeah because I've always made those jokes my whole life when it comes to certain numbers you know I used to only follow 420 and I would have to have the tv volume at a certain number and the house needs to be tidy and my emails need to be cleared and I can't have any unread

texts and all of that. And just finally being able to, you know, like, sorry to people I work with, but I'm a little slower on the emails. I don't let it bother me. I keep up with my texts because that's one that I, that's just something with me. You're allowing some balance kind of into your life. Totally.

Not rushing to do all the work stuff all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I will say, I think it's really great, like hearing that, you know, someone came up to you and maybe they didn't even know the phrase intrusive thoughts and you having these experiences that you're not really sure what they are.

And obviously you have, you know, this platform, but you also have the resources to have a great therapist. And so there might be times where people are kind of like not open to therapy or can't afford it or not really sure what's going on. But hearing you explain what you're going through then puts kind of a title to like, oh, these things that I keep thinking about or feeling, it's intrusive thoughts. And just sometimes maybe putting a label on it and hearing like, that's what I'm feeling too. And then being able to like research themselves or go to therapy and say, I'm having intrusive thoughts, you know, really helps people, I don't know, take the next step or like really get help. And I'm, I'm glad that you got to, I guess, have like interactions. I know you did like a meet and

greet last night and just to have like real connections with your fans. Because I guess, have like interactions. I know you did like a meet and greet last night and just to have like real connections with your fans, because I mean, I get DMs from people talking about it and how brave you are. And I'm proud of you. Like I've had my own mental health struggles in the past and hearing you be open and honest about it, I think is like really, really amazing. Like you have a platform, you're using it for good and connecting with people and hearing feedback that it is helping people, I think is really great. Yeah. I've had so many people reach out and I'm like, I will continue talking about this right now. I'm not on the Zoloft. I did feel that was making me slightly zombie-like, but I also know I was feeling a little better mentally when I was on that. So

I wanted to give it some time to just completely have that out of my system. I do have Xanax. I take very not often, like very just much as needed, very rarely. But that's something where if I'm feeling really nervous or tense or anxious, it's a low dose. It's like 0.25. And I keep those on me because you never know when you might need one of those. And so for now, that's all i've been doing i have not smoked weed and gosh almost i don't know two and a half three months now maybe and i feel better with that good microdosing is going to be the next thing i try and then i'm

doing an in-person emdr intensive okay down in san diego with my therapist that's amazing and hopefully that will help work out. So you're still on the journey of figuring it out. And you're, I mean, I think that's, I've said this before, but like, I love that you're a doer when something's wrong, you don't just sit there and complain about it. You're like, I'm trying this. So I love that you're kind of going through the steps and like figuring out what's best for you and what works and what doesn't and sharing it, I think with others is amazing. Cause you know, when you do find something, you're like, wow, this really, really helped me. And you can share it. There might be thousands of other people that follow

in your footsteps and that works for them or just hearing like what you've tried and what, you know, and maybe Zoloft will work for some people. Yeah. And I honestly know that existed until. Right. And I might end up going back on that because I do know whether it was a placebo or whatever in the five weeks that I took it I was definitely feeling better yeah but before I got too dependent on that I was like I don't like how tired it's making me I love having my energy back I feel like I'm more present for my kid when I have the most energy possible I still drink my caffeine but you know we, we all do. So I'm going to try our friend Kale has a mushroom business and he has teas, gummies, mints. And so I'm going to

try that next and see what a low dose of that does. And yeah, I'll keep you guys posted on my journey. I love hearing about it. I think that's great. Thanks. I wanted to ask, okay, if you could bring back one former cast member who is no longer on the show, back to Vanderpump, like main cast. I'm talking like Jax, Brittany, Kristen, Dana, Brittany, I think. Okay. I figured that would probably be an easy answer. I miss Brittany. And then if you had to bring back like one side character, I'm talking like the Laura Lee, Carmen, like any of the exes, Carter, like anybody kind of random that's been around.

Laura Lee, you know, she did not have a long enough moment on this show. I remember I ran into her like sidebar in San Diego years later. I would love to have her back. She brought so much to the show in such a short period of time. Yeah, she there's some iconic clips of her going around and people like, where is she now? And I'm like, wherever she is, let's leave her alone. But if she did want to come back, I think everyone would be here for it. Yeah, I feel like she was a good one. Yeah, she really was. Do you have a peach and pit of just the last 10 years of Vanderpump, a scene that you're like, oh, that was fun and iconic that was like, you know, happy or, you know, the best. And then something

that you were like, God, if I could delete one scene from the show, it would be this. I would have to say my wedding, the second wedding last last year season 10 wedding was definitely the peach I mean the rainbow coming out of the sky summer as my flower girl and then just marrying Brock and our vows and all of that was probably one of the best moments I've ever had on this show oh there's a lot of pits I would just say most of season six okay fair fair just if I never talked about the TV on the wall. Oh, yeah. You know. It gets brought up a lot.

I still, I have to do cameos where they're like, can you say that seven minute? I'm like, oh my God, it's still a thing. And then Jared Lips, I was asking him, I was like, I get to interview Sheena today. What questions? He was like, she's had so many iconic scenes on the show. Is there anything of a couple of these

that you could share kind of like maybe something somebody doesn't know about these scenes or things that happened off camera, specifically the first pilot of VPR, the crossover when you went from Beverly Hills Housewives and then you walk in the back of the kitchen? Like, was there anything there that we didn't see or anything that was maybe, I don't know, left on the editing floor. I feel like you really saw all of that. You saw that moment where the camera physically followed me get up and walk into the kitchen. It was the most seamless transition ever. People are like 20 minutes into Vanderpump Rules and they're like, wait, what happened

to the housewives? Yeah. Where did they go? You know? So from what I remember, that was pretty raw and real. And you saw a lot of that. It's so crazy to think that that was like 2011 and 12. Yeah. Shot all of that stuff. Did you have any idea then? Like, did you I mean, obviously, you'd been in a lot of stuff. You'd shot pilots and been in the background or had

smaller roles on stuff. So you'd been around cameras. Did you know then that it would ever be, did you think like, oh, this is going to be like, yeah, we might get three seasons of our own show and then it's going to die? Did you feel like this was a big moment in that time where you're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to start this show and this you know, this could be the rest of my life. Like, how did you feel at the time? Like, what did you think was going to come from that? I felt like we would be so lucky if we were able to have as long of a run as the Hills dead. Wow. They did six seasons. And I was like, how lucky would we be? And where I was at in my relationship was like, we got engaged season two. And I'm like, oh, my God, if we get a season three, we get married.

And then just even talking about what if we had a season five? Wow. Would we have a baby by then? And just thinking into the future. But I could have never imagined 11 years and hopefully more later, you know, would still be doing this. I was just so grateful each season because and still to this day, and I think it's a realistic way of living.

Every season I live as if it's our last. Yeah. You know, we give it our all because we don't know when this could all go away. Right. So I've been living that way since season one. Right. And we're still doing it. But yeah, I was really hopeful that we would get to live out our initial contract and hopefully have six or seven seasons. That would be great. That's so funny. And you guys have well surpassed that. Yeah.

Okay. When you are filming, can you tell ever when you are making a line that you're like, that's going to be iconic? And then it is like, for example, did you have any idea that when you held your arm up and said it's all happening that like that was going to become like your number one gif I could have only hoped you know I feel like sometimes I say stuff and I think that was really good but then it's not maybe or it doesn't hit the same. So I don't know. I feel like that's where I also lack confidence because sometimes when I think I do something good

and then it's not as well received, I'm like, oh shit, I should just not try. Could you tell when Stassi said the Pinot Grigio comment to you? Did you know that was going to stick? You didn't think twice about that after? No, I looked her up and down and I was like, bitch, get your own wine. I love the up and down. I such an iconic would have never thought that that line would have been so iconic because in the moment it was just like a fuck. Yeah. And I walked away

still mentioning it. I know us years later. I know. So crazy. It's very interesting. Yeah, I love it. OK, let me see if I have any last minute questions. Okay. Oh, okay. A fun last question. Merry fuck kill. Hopefully you do better than Brock did last night. Oh my God, he was awful. Tom, Tom, or James? Oh, that's a tough one. Yeah.

I feel like if you ask this question to at any other, like every season, it would be completely different. Right? Because look, we saw how Schwartz's marriage ended up. James Cooks. I can't see myself having sex with either of them. We're going to have to kill Sandoval. Okay.

I figured that would be the easiest. But I would have answered it very differently before I probably would have married him. That's what I think too. I feel like if we combed through old podcasts, there would have been a Mary Fuck Hill where he was involved and he would have married him. That's what I think, too. I feel like if we combed through old podcasts, there would have been a Mary Fuck Hill where he was involved and he would have been the instant Mary.

Yeah, I'm going to marry Schwartz and just close my eyes with James, I guess. I love it. I love it. Well, thanks for coming on, co-hosting. Thanks for letting me interview you. Yeah, no, it was so fun. Thanks for listening, guys.

Thanks. Bye. Sheena Shea. Shea FK. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Looking fine and I got my girls with me With the boys at the table getting tipsy Miss me, kiss me one more time Get over here boy, I'ma make you mine

Do you want it? Let me see you shake that Do you need it? Let me see you shake that Do you want it? Let me see you shake that Come and get it Let me see you shake that

Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.