Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Hot Topics: A Year of Women Soaring, Shocking Splits, Scandoval & No More Gatekeeping Skinny

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

This week, pop culture experts Kiki Monique & Ryan Bailey join Scheana in recapping the highlights of 2023. Why so many celebrity splits this year? Why did Scandoval become a pop culture behemoth? Has Oprah ended the stigma around using Ozempic? They have theories. Plus, Scheana addresses her podcast drama with RHOC’s Tamra Judge, Kiki shares what she relayed to Ariana days before the scandal broke that oddly foreshadowed the year ahead, and Ryan explains how his detective skills nearly ruined Summer’s name announcement. Also, the annual debate rages on: when is it okay to put up your Christmas tree & when should it come down? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guests: @thetalkofshame @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, December 22nd.  Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Episode Sponsors:Visit ritual.com/SCHEANA to start Ritual or add Essential For Women 18+ to your subscription today.Go to Quince.com/honey for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Download the DraftKings Casino app now and sign up with promo code HONEY and play $5 to get $100 in casino credits.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is with Dear Media. I'm so excited to say that. So I promise you in this podcast, you're going to either learn about something, you're going to be inspired by someone that's like always coming from a perspective of humor, then this is the place for you. I hope you enjoy this little snack. From Vanderpump rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hey guys, welcome back to Shenanigans. This week I'm back on the Hot Topics couch with two of your and my personal favorite pop culture experts. I got such a great response a couple weeks ago when these two were on Shenanigans.

So I figured we would get into some wrapping up the year Shenanigans. Please welcome back my girl Kiki monique and ryan bailey ho ho ho i mean don't call me that yeah i got canceled did you get that from the christmas sleigh song yeah i i played the christmas sleigh song the other night over at jeff lewis's i made them play yes yes i made them play i love that it's a b It is. It actually is a bop. I'll take this off. It's just me and Ryan.

You're like, what's getting done? I'm the carrot top of Bravo. But yeah, it's a bop. Yeah, thank you. So I feel like the response was a little mixed, but it felt more positive than not. Yeah, I think people just like didn't want Raquel, Rachel's name. They were like, everything else I like, I just didn't want to hear that part. Yeah.

And you know, I thought about it, but here's the thing too, is that we wrote that at the end of summer and recorded it so many months ago. I kind of even forgot about that part. And then when it came out, I was like, I mean, yeah, a lot of time has passed, but. Listen, Lennon and McCartney with the Beatles, they went through lyric changes as well. I wanted more about Tom Sandoval in there. I would want a full rap breakdown just about Sandoval. I think you'd be okay.

But overall, if you take that rap thing out of it, it's actually a really, really fun song. It is so fun. I've even thought about doing another version of it maybe next Christmas that's just Christmas and nothing Bravo. maybe next Christmas that's just Christmas and nothing Bravo but the original idea with this song when we did it back in like end of August was to hopefully debut at Bravo Con and ideally at the Bravo's was my vision and to have the camera panned of the Trace Amigas and like you know Erika Jayne and everyone so what happened They just didn't have room for us to perform. They had a whole showgirls thing. And I mean, all of the performances they had,

there just wasn't room for it. But that was the original goal when we wrote that rap was to debut it at BravoCon, have flashes of everyone hearing it for the first time, a lyric video in the back. And that didn't happen. It was weird though, when you played it for us, that when we recorded a couple of weeks ago,

still one of the most bizarre experiences of my life because you just don't expect to be in front of sheena shea and then she goes hey listen to this and i don't i think it's going to be good as gold and then it's a new song and then we let listen to the whole song and you just stared at us listening and i was like oh my god like i was like this is one of those weird dreams I'm having. I'm glad it was good. Cause then otherwise it'd been like, can I lie? Honestly, I think, and I'm not just saying this,

I've had several people and also people in the music industry, listen to some of my new music with the 27s. And at this point I'm like, I don't give a fuck what people have to say. I know for once the songs i'm putting out are good like the boy crazy song we have done is so good sweet and sour we have two other ones we're working on the whole ep i'm hoping to drop in february but we'll have a sheena's on are you gonna have like a live show are you gonna do the erica jane resident i mean that honestly another vegas

residency for me would be a goal. It's something I talk to the guys about. I'm like, what if we just, you know, get a big house in Vegas? We do a little residency. Yeah. Everybody's doing a residency. You could do a four night residency. Wu-Tang has a residency.

I know. I just saw that. Yeah. Fine. Sheena Shea opens for Wu-Tang would be really. Totally. So, yeah, a lot of things in 2024 around the music that i'm working on with the guys but i'm like you know what the songs talk shit say i'm not a singer i don't care the

songs are so catchy and so fun and i have fun performing and i'm not gonna let what people say take something i love away from me again because i literally quit doing it i said i would never do it again i got so much hate, more dislikes than likes on the last music video I did. That thing is untraceable. You can't find it anywhere now. So keep your head down and just push through. That seems to be the thing is like some internal belief or actually just tell

people you believe in yourself and push through because usually that turns around at some point. If you like it and other people, everybody will. Cardi B started as a reality star. Yeah. Look at her now. Yes. around at some point. If you like it and other people like it, everybody will like it. Cardi B started as a reality star. Look at her now. Yes. Look at her now.

So we'll see. A lot of exciting things. So you're saying season 11 will be the season where we see you recording this album? Uh-huh. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I haven't seen any of the episodes yet, but I know what I filmed. So you definitely will see the 27s.

I was in the recording booth with them. I performed twice with them. Do we see the recording of the episodes yet, but I know what I filmed. So you definitely will see the 27s. I was in the recording booth with them. I performed twice with them. Do we see the recording of the holiday song? Not the holiday song, but the Screamo Good as Gold version.

Okay. Yeah. So that is in the season, hopefully, and apples. They need an hour-long Vanderpump special where it's just

the musical performances of Vanderpump Rules. Yeah. Right. Because you do Feeling You with DJ James Kennedy and La La, that little moment. There's so many musical performances of Vanderpump Rules. Yeah. Because you can do Feeling You with DJ James Kennedy and La La, that little moment.

There's so many musical moments through Vanderpump Rules. Vanderpump the musical. Exactly. Oh my God. You took the words out of my mouth. I've been saying this for years. We need a Vanderpump Rules the musical.

Just a one hour special on Bravo. I think it would be so iconic. He's just a worm with a mustache. That's all he is. He's a woman with a mustache. You know? I mean, like, I would pay my friend. Well, we know you'd pay money for just about anything.

Just me in a theater watching going, this is amazing. But that's the thing is, do we play ourselves or do people play us? Like, I think it could go either way. I think people should play you. I think it would be more fun. Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah, I think then you could do stunt casting because then you even throw other bravo leberties

as you right you could like get the southern charm cast involved you can get real housework erica jane will need pages me for sure okay okay yeah yeah i mean i think any guy on southern charm could be tom and i think you would be winter house has some good people yeah that would actually be a real thing. That would be so fun. I love it. Wait, I love this. We're going to manifest this.

So, okay, speaking of other Bravo shows, when you guys were here a couple weeks ago, we had a discussion on the drama unfolding down in OC. And instead of listening to the full podcaster reaching out to me, I saw that Tamra decided to go on her podcast and kind of clap back at something said on this episode. And she attributed them to me saying it. And I was like, first of all, I don't think I have ever publicly or privately said a bad word about Tamra. I personally have always

loved her. I don't like when I see the drama with other women I love on that show and she's a part of it, but I'm like, I personally have no issues with her. So I feel like y'all got me in trouble. Wow. I got a text from Sheena at like 10 o'clock at night, which is like, you know, she doesn't text me a lot. So I'm like, Oh God, what happened? What did I do? What happened? And then it was like, did I say this? And I was like, I don't think me a lot so i'm like oh god what happened what did i do what happened and then it was like did you did i say this and i was like i don't think so and then i was like check the clip on your instagram because the clip is on the shenanigans instagram so i wouldn't check and then somebody tagged us or somebody said oh it wasn't you it was kiki monique and then so bad it's good threw in and i was like here we go yeah but at the end of the day i want to point out that was all about john jansen being a complete dork toward shannon bedore but we did say well i

i said i thought tamra was behind it well you know you asked you posed the question do you think because i that in my head i i knew it was what i thought was thinking i just wanted to make sure you were on board with why is it wrong to point that why is it wrong to point out there is a certain pattern of behavior with tamra as a housewife that she is very successful at yeah where she does tend to do the same things over and over again i don't know like i also said that's what makes her a great house exactly there's a reason we watch her yeah yeah so we had been talking about doing a pod swap with shenanigans and two t's in a pod then i saw that and i was like no i will not be coming on your show but then in a pod then i saw that and i was like no i will

not be coming on your show but then she's like no i love you and i was like well i love you too so like should we do a swap yes i told you i said go on their show that would be great and they should come on your show but i do i want tamra to answer like come on you know there's a pattern of behavior we see why do you get upset when we're actually pointing out what we see that doesn't mean that's who you are as a person right besides that yeah but you're very successful at it why not lean in right and i feel like similar with me it's like i get so frustrated sometimes with the fans but i'm like i have to remind myself that they're only given little bits of information like the hot mic podcast which i'm

going to save for my sheena spills solo episode next week i'm not going to get into that too much yet because we can save that but um i mean you can give your opinions but i'm like i know people didn't pay to listen to the whole thing you know they're seeing one small clip out of an hour conversation. But damn, did you guys listen? I watched those clips. Yeah, I watched those clips. And I've got a bone to pick with you. I do want to point out, though, Sheena brought us here to literally throw us under the bus. To be like, Tamara, I didn't say that.

It was them. They're standing right here in front of me right now. No, I watched that clip and I knew exactly. It was interesting so i saw the frustration of people but i also understand the contextual of i mean alex baskin must have did that did he reach out to you afterwards and go hey sorry about the heat you're getting on this no jeremiah reached out to me and was like hey here's the link if you wanted to post it and i'm like have you been in the comment section today no i will not be sharing that it's interesting though because myself included we all kind of break it down to like character archetypes so it is interesting to meet you in person and start to

get to know you a little bit over the years because we do we're like oh that's so sheena like and you are celebrated for your sheena isms. That doesn't mean that's necessarily you, but people do that. It's just like, oh, Tom, that's so Tom, him doing a cover band and painting his face. You know, it's like, we all kind of sometimes refuse to look at the greater picture because it's reality television.

Right. I do think actually Alex tagged me in the post and was like, oh, if you want to reshare. And I was like, moving on. Alex is like, oh, yeah. We got a podcast, baby. So got a podcast. We got a game.

It's called Feeling Festive. So I have a few questions and I want to see how much holiday spirit you've both got. I see you, you know, brought the Santa costume today. I'm full Tim Allen Santa Claus right now. I just want to know some of your opinions on some holiday type of things. Okay. So when is it acceptable for the Christmas tree to go up? Oh, the day after Thanksgiving. Okay. Yeah, I agree with that was always the day after Thanksgiving in my family. Yeah. So this year in Palm Springs, I wanted the tree for Thanksgiving.

I saw Lala was putting her tree up and I was like, well, if they're coming over for Thanksgiving, then I feel like I need my house decorated. So I did just put the tree up on Thanksgiving morning and my mom was like, what are you doing? We don't do that. See, this is a storyline. You're competing with Lala over Christmas trees now.

I don't want Ocean to come over and be like, wait, she doesn't have a tree. You know, I did it for the kids. Does she not believe in Santa Claus, Mommy? Ocean's afraid of Santa. We're trying, we're working on it. We took the kids to Cocomelon the other day, and Ocean actually hugged the characters,

and that was huge for her. I was like, look, Summer's sitting on the Grinch's lap. You know, like, it's okay. Oh, the Grinch is scary. I would imagine Summer Moon's fully into Santa right oh yeah I have already like three different times she's met him and she it's so cute I have a photo of her I'll pop it up for the video one and she's so comfy she's just laying back on him with like a full double chin because she was just like cozied up on him and it's it's the cutest thing so yeah

no fear of she make a Christmas list or like does she understand what that about? No, I think she's a little too young for that now. She just likes to grab my phone and go on Amazon and say, Mommy, order this. Order that. You know, on the little golden books. No, she knows my password. I know. I know it's a thing.

But on the little golden books on the back of it, it has like 12 other suggestions of books. So she now flips it over and she goes, Mommy, I want you to order that one and order that one. it it has like 12 other suggestions of books so she now flips it over and she goes mommy i want you to order that one and order that one and i swear the amount of money i have spent on golden books but they're books and she loves to read golden books is still like they've really kept going i mean i have a gold somebody bought me this for uh the uh golden books taylor swift golden book oh and i was like hell yeah but i want i want a vanderpump rules golden book i want like

we should actually just really we got to make it happen so many ideas okay so on the christmas tree note when should it come down it comes down the day like new year's day really the day even when you're hung over what new year's day yeah it's just okay i'm like february 3rd uh real? Is it, if it's, you know, gosh, yeah. My, my mom would always do new year's day as well.

But it's just one of those. Yeah. I would say January 5th. Yeah. I feel like when the tree comes down, it's like your house looks so plain and I like to keep it for just a couple extra days. But then I'm like,

it's January. I'm like, this shit's been up since last year. Well, let's find out when Lala's taking her down. Yeah. I'm so lazy when it comes to decorating for Christmas. But once I saw she was doing it and I was like, we can't have one house decorated.

Then you come next door and it's not. My mom was like, well, I guess I won't open the bin of the fall decorations I brought and we'll just put out Christmas. And I'm like, whatever. I want the tree. I like the light. I'm trying to be a better decorator because like, I'm definitely like for Halloween.

I'm like the witch on the corner. Like I don't have any decorations. There's like spider webs, but like real ones. The kids do not. I haven't had a doc and I feel kind of bad about myself now. Let's get another holiday to realize how weird I am. Cause I put like, I have literal Vanderpump rules ornaments. I have 90 day fiance ornaments.

I have a Batmobile ornament. It's just all of my weird likes. And so every time I opened that box, I'm like, what is my life? This is so weird. Well, I have stockings this year for my cat. So I've always had them. Are you going to wrap gifts for your cats? I have in the past and I will put something in the stocking.

I was so crazy. Even in my thirties, I wouldn't let my mom put out Christmas gifts until I went to bed on Christmas Eve. I'd be like, I'm retiring now. Whatever happens from this point, I don't.

Cause that, that feeling of getting up and like seeing get, it was so exciting. It just, I was so exciting. It just, I have arrested development. When do you wrap your Christmas presents? Oh, usually like hours before they go under the tree. Yeah, yeah.

Like the night before. Literally what I do, that's my tradition is I stay up so late on Christmas Eve and I wrap all of my presents. And so then in the morning, like we already have some some under the tree but then in the morning there's like but those people that get them and then wrap them immediately those are also the people that immediately write a thank you card and i'm just like i'm blown away by those people because they seem like they know something get from me i can't do the cards i can't do a thank you i can't write anymore especially with these nails that's another thing i can't do i can't make a fist and i can't really write as well as i used to. You guys probably can't hear like when Sheena taps on her phone with the nails, that needs to be on a track of a Sheena Shea song.

We're coming up with so many brands. We've literally made $60 while we sat here. Okay, so we said thank you cards. What about Christmas cards? Do you send them? Do you want to receive them? Is it an outdated custom? What do we think? Like, I don't want to receive them only because I don't send them, but people want to send them to me.

And so I will accept them, but I just don't expect anything from me because I didn't ask for them. Yeah. I'm not good at sending them, but Medica, who works with me, does all my graphic design. And so we make one each year of like a silly idea

and send it out to the Patreon. And we made a really good one this year with like fallen Bravo Leberties through the years on like a sleigh. And each year is like something Bravo related. You know, people, you know, you know, I'm sure he's getting a redemption card eventually. But yeah, so it's I like that aspect of it, but I wouldn't do it on my own. Yeah, I'm too lazy. It's like I wish I enjoyed decorating. I wish I enjoyed doing, like, I've seen some of my friends, usually it's the more wealthy

friends of mine. They do the whole setup with their kids. And then I'm like, I feel like a shitty mom that I'm like, well, I'm not putting on a red velvet gown and taking photos with my kid in front of a Christmas tree with all of this. And I'm just like, I don't just like, Kardashian puts us all to shame. Like when I just look at her stories, I'm like,

I will say it makes me, I do want to have a Kim Kardashian holiday. Yeah. You'll get there. But I just feel, I feel like you would actually, I feel like you would do that. I feel like that's something that I would expect from Sheena.

Shay is a holiday card with your family and like a specific theme. So my mom does them and she sends them out. So we'll, we usually try to take a family photo sometime around Thanksgiving. If we have our matching PJs or something like that, we'll do that. And then that's the Christmas card this year. We didn't get our family photos. So she just put a bunch of like different ones and decorated it. And it was cute, but I do have our matching PJs that I will get for a photo to post.

But that's like as much as I have in me. I feel like you've got more. I feel like there's more. I want to push you to like really do it next year. I know. But that's the thing. It's like I haven't done it already every year. You know, it's like I'm consistent with the Christmas PJ photo.

Yeah. Okay. But the whole glam and all of that, it's just. I think the Christmas PJ photo is enough, honestly. Did you ever, those growing up though, the other families would send my mom and dad like, and you'd get updates what the family did that year of like, Ricky's a blue belt now.

Like it would be what they did and their accomplishments. I always loved those cards. Yeah. I don't think they do those really anymore. No, I haven't, you know. Just a photo. Yeah. I grew up in Kansas. And it's like, you have really anymore. No, I haven't. Just a photo. Yeah. I grew up in Kansas.

And it's like you have it out and then. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. How about a few trivia questions? Okay. Who popularized the Christmas tree tradition? Like.

NeNe Leakes. I think royalty. Oh, NeNe Leakes. The queen? Yeah. Queen Victoria and Prince Albert. Whoa. Prince Albert? Yeah. Queen Victoria and Prince Albert. Whoa. Prince Albert?

Yeah. When and where were the first Christmas card, where were they first sold? Hallmark? New York? No. London. England. London.

Yes. 1843. When and where was eggnog invented? This is going back. My mom's house. She makes the best one. Yeah, the guy with the vodka? I don't...

Rum. Like Scandinavian? What century? 18th? I'll go 17th. 13th. Oh, God. Wild, right?

Jeez. Can you name the highest grossing Christmas movie of all time? Home Alone. Yes! Damn. What is your favorite Christmasmas movie die hard christmas vacation okay yeah good options what about favorite holiday food or like a drink is there like a go-to that you have for christmas breakfast or dinner or something normally like i do i like

christmas breakfast with my family but it's just really just like Southern breakfast, nothing special. The night before, like a ham. Yeah, this will be the first Christmas without mom this year. But she used to do this Christmas Eve where it was flank steak, shrimp. It was like, but it was all finger foods. And this year we're breaking,

we're really trying to break tradition because it's going to be weird. And we're going to a Mexican restaurant on Christmas Eve. I love that. But it was always like at the home, but we're like, let's just do something completely different we would never think of doing. Yeah.

Yeah. We'll see how that goes. Feliz Navidad. We're going to wake up on the toilet Christmas morning. I'm making enchiladas Christmas night. Sheena's famous enchiladas. Yeah, we're doing it. They're going to be red and green sauce.

Yes. Literally, trays of each. What is your favorite christmas song oh you know until recently well i mean recently christmas sleigh of course i think that's the new obviously song i'm like not into like christmas other than mariah carey i feel like i did just listen to her full christmas album on sunday i listened to it yesterday but i would say uh I'm a big Last Christmas Wham guy. Yeah, that's on my Christmas playlist. What is the best-selling Christmas song of all time?

Do you know? Is it that Brenda Lee song? Rocking Around the Christmas Tree? No. Is it the Band-Aid song, Do They Know It's Christmas? No, but that's a good one. That's also on my playlist. It's White Christmas by Bing Crosby. Bing Crosby.

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the least. It's like I went from having to call the paparazzi when I wanted to be seen to them actually stalking me at my home and following me all the way to Long Beach for my eyelash extension appointment. I go into my appointment. I leave and I hear like Sheena and I was like, paparazzi in Long Beach. And he was like, I followed you. And I'm like, wait, what? And he was like, I was just waiting for you to leave. And I'm like, I don't like that.

I wonder if they get upset having to travel a long distance. They're like, oh, my God. Gas mileage. No, he was like, I was wondering when you were going to stop driving. But you admit you used to call the paparazzi. At times, I would give them a heads up. Like, I still will. I mean, here's the thing.

If I'm going to Craig's, I know they're already going to be there. But I'll probably let Bobby also know I'm going to be there because I know he always gets the best photos of me. So, yes. Have I done it in Hawaii in the past? Absolutely. But it's not always. I want to give a holiday shout out to that TMZ guy

that would always be like, okay, okay, okay, Tom, okay, what's the deal with Rachel? Okay, okay. He was my favorite one through all of Scandival. He would just show up to, oh, hey, Rachel, okay, what's the deal with Rachel? Okay, okay. He was my favorite one through all of Scandival. He would just show up to, oh, hey, Rachel. Okay, okay. Like it was wild. And he would always be like, I don't know what the big deal is.

Yeah. Well, speaking of, I mean, I feel like we can't wrap up 2023 without just touching on Scandival a little. So do you guys know who first coined the term Scandival? Because the first person I heard say it, I think, was Andy Cohen. But I don't think he came up with it. I felt like I just started hearing it on TikTok, like when the video started being made. Well, there is.

I mean, I thought this was another, like, 13th century. Well, there's got to be somebody that coined it. Who did? Do you know who coined it? I don't remember. It was either a fan or someone who was on Watch What Happens Live because then Andy started using it. But I don't think it originated with him. I don't think so either because I felt like.

I also feel like. Comment below if you know. I feel like we would hear it from that person. Yeah. Because I feel like they would tell us every opportunity that they created. Yeah. Scandival. So why do you guys think this story was so high profile

to the fact where it's at the White House Correspondents Dinner? It's like the president of the United States was made aware of this scandal. And it was the biggest news story. It was CNN. I mean, it was everywhere. Because people, and it's like, I feel like I, when you were a VPR fan from the beginning, which I think most VPR fans were, you were invested, which is why it feels weird to have all these new fans because you feel like, oh, you're not you don't get it. You weren't part of it.

But it was like a very people who watch VPR didn't watch it sporadically. They watched every season. They watched every episode and they were just invested. Maybe it was a smaller, you know, grouping than like some of the other housewives show, not anymore, but, but the people who watched it were dedicated. And I think that's part of it. Well, I think, yeah, there's that element of, if you've been a fan forever, it's like a sports team where you guys didn't have two good seasons. So you're like, I still believe in my team. So with that point of like, oh my God, the the magic's still there but then the other thing that really grabbed our attention was that this

was a long-standing relationship that nobody suspected like even knowing ariana and tom a little in real life i would have told you you are crazy there's no way this happened at all i mean i talked to you the week of when you were on watch what happens live with Rachel and it was a, it was already a good season. It was already a solid season. So to have this break and there would be new things about it that would break every week. So the way production and was able to keep our, keep our attention and like all new, like you guys were all doing podcasts. There was so much attention, so many details, the TMZ guy on the street, all of these things that it kept building because you then found new lies, how deep the lies went. And then there was this whole undercurrent.

It got so popular. Then there was conspiracy theories of like, this is all scripted. This is all scripted. People still swear. People still like, I know it's all fake. So all of this. And it really then got people to go back. And then it was like the Da Vinci Code.

You're like, oh, he had that same behavior with Christian in season three. And all of these clues you could go back and watch. And it kind of was like a tidal wave of viewing emotion. Yeah, no, totally. It was wild. And I feel like even now, new information is still coming out. Sandoval just did two teas in a pod and was saying about how Raquel initiated it. And now she has her podcast, which I saw today. Someone sent me a screenshot. I refused to listen.

Did you guys listen? I was listening in the lobby. I was listening to that in the car ride over. And I was how long of a preview is it six and a half minutes okay yeah so what is she going to talk about outside of that six and a half seven minutes I mean what's episode 10 of Rachel Goes Rogue going to be about that's what I want to know I mean that's that's the question I mean maybe I don't know because she talks about how she's enjoying being back in LA that's what the first thing she says so And how she's starting to do things again. So, I mean, are we going to be following her new adventures in LA? Yeah, I mean, we saw her at the Jingle Ball.

So she obviously wants to be out there, but she's not filming. She's not going to film. I am interested in her from her perspective. And you can tell she's been somewhere for 90 days because it does seem like there's some therapy speak in there. And I mean that as a compliment. But she also takes us through her side of the story, which I think is necessary if we're going to hear Tom's side. So what we want to do from it from there.

But, yeah, I feel like that's two episodes tops. And then where do you go from there? And also, like I've always said, and I don't want to be rude, but I just when I listen to it, I know how hard it is for her to do this, even just communicating with her voice. And I think that's the thing that she's going to have to get really comfortable with really quick to try to get that out there. She seems like in a very positive space. And I did agree with her in regards to Tom Sandoval of like blocking him. If you wrote all the things that he was doing in black and white, it was obvious that these were red flags. And she said, I wouldn't have believed it until I sat there and wrote it all out, obviously in therapy. And then you can't deny that. And that I think like, though,

that's fascinating. Somebody that's actually learning from their mistakes. It doesn't take away from the pain she caused Ariana or you, but I do find that like, listen, I've been in the worst year of my life right now. I've done some really, I've, you know, I can understand from that perspective, but I don't know how much that we're going to go along with her on that journey after a certain point. I would love to see a video portion of the podcast instead of it being only audio, because that's how, you know, it's fully scripted. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I would like to see more. I more i mean not that i'm gonna watch or listen at all but if she's gonna do this don't just be reading a script behind a mic show your face but i think that's the only way she's gonna be able to do that and as somebody that

edits their own podcast someone else i kept listening going like oh i bet they're having to edit that like i was listening to little edit points yeah and i must be really hard yeah yeah but you know what i hate about this then it going to kind of fuel that because then Tom's going to have to do a response podcast. It's going to be like. It's going to be battle of the podcast. It's like battle of the. Back and forth.

Yeah, it kind of is. And so it's like we're never going to be free of Scandival in some ways. Literally. It's like release me. And also, what do you, I want to know for people who cover things like the show but are removed personally from it, what effect do you think Scandival has had? And anyone that you know, have they said that maybe now

they feel like it's caused them to be less trusting? Like, does it make you look at friendships differently? Because, I mean, I know the way it's affected people who were in it, but I'm wondering if people outside of it are like, wait, that happened to her. That could happen to me. No, I mean, I actually for me, it was like I sounds really bad. I enjoyed watching it only because literally days before Scandival broke, I was at the Crappies with Ariana and we had gone to the bar. And we had gone to the bar and I was randomly because we're drunk telling her the story about how like I got to where I was in life because I dumped this like nine year relationship I was in and how it was like as tragic then days later this happened and so i enjoyed watching it because every time she moved up i was like yep yeah well

let me take that further down the line that proves it's a conspiracy you gave her the idea that night you said girl i'm gonna be on broadway by the end of the year well i will no that was wild i was at the crappy sitting right next to her at the awards part and we were talking about winter house and how like the both the toms were gonna go and not like so we were talking about that and we were even talking about lala at that point because lala just come out and watch what happens live and said we're coming for ariana next sandoval be you know and we were talking about that so just literally the next week but for me it just changed that the amount of work that it took to cover that like i was doing line by line recaps like i was losing my mind because it i mean it was really good for my show but at the same time like i was so

personally invested yeah i was like i was very into to a degree still like i was just i was angry at tom like i was just i didn't see that happening and i really respected him in a different way and i just didn't think he was like you know old jacks if that makes sense totally makes sense that wasn't the only shocking and big split of 2023 though there have been I feel like a lot of surprising splits we just recently learned about Kendall Jenner and Bad Bunny. Oh, no. Who were you most surprised by? Who got the most attention? Who should have gotten more? I mean, we've got Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner.

Ariana Grande and Dalton Gomez. Hugh and Debra Lee Jackman. Cardi B and Offset. Britney Spears and Sam. Kaitlyn Bristow and Jason. I mean, the list Bristow and Jason. I mean, the list goes literally on and on. Sofia Vergara, Reese Witherspoon, Taylor Swift.

But look at her now. I mean, and then. I feel like there needs to be I Will Remember You, Sarah McLachlan. Is it playing underneath of this or like into the road? The Bravo world. We've got Kyle and Mauricio, Carl and Lindseyindsey drew sidora and ralph and shannon and john like so many yeah so most shocking didn't get enough attention should have gotten more what are your thoughts i mean i feel like i thought every time a new breakup happened i think i was more shocked than the last and not because of the person it

was because the number kept increasing. And I was like, is this, and it's collectively people are like, no, this is the year of the breakup. I think there's more than normal. And I really do put it up to,

well, we've read it. Jeezy wasn't that, uh, and, uh, what's her, uh,

Jeannie, my Jeannie, my, my, and Jeezy and Jeezyezy and i i just think that like lockdown happened and relationships that would have broken up 2020 21 stayed on extra longer some people even got married because they like thought they fell in love again and i think that 2023 was like the shedding because i felt like we just didn't even start getting out of the house

again really till 2022 and once that happened we're we're like, what am I doing? I hate you. I don't even want to be near you. I don't want to sleep in the same bed with you. And I think that's what, which, so it was just a collective, like the number kept rising, but then I was like, I think celebrity relationships are like, you count them in dog years. Like one year is seven years in celebrity. And I mean, there are a lot of shocking ones and i mean i think the thing that didn't get enough well it got a little bit of attention but i think we don't talk about it nearly enough still as the ariana grande one because of her current guy was with a woman with a newborn child they met on the set of wicked and she then split with dalton gomez after they

were already you know with each other and that that to me, I guess, and then everybody started looking at Ariana Grande's pattern of behavior in relationships. And that's the thing about getting older is that you can start looking at patterns in relationships, just like we did with Sandoval. And that to me was still kind of mind blowing because Ariana Grande is like almost like people's princess. And they're filming a wicked, they're filming a movie about Glinda, the good witch witch which you are and now when we see that film we're gonna be like that's the dude that had a brand new baby and you that to me is wild yeah and we don't have a reality show like we do with the bravo breakups that we

get to see the aftermath yeah wild but you've been on i mean you've had a breakup on bravo the thing that always makes me curious is multiple you know is that shout out rob uh no is that you know carl and lindsey they're going through really deep emotional pain they're going to have to go through way more emotional pain once it starts airing and also once we start adding our two cents in and making our memes and things like that that's the thing that I always wonder about reality stars is we have to go through pain and normal relationships, but we don't have to consistently relive it on television. Yeah. That's the thing too. And I mean, being friends with both Carl and Lindsay and getting both sides and then the show hasn't even aired yet. And it's like, you are going through a healing process already on your own. But then you got to go and relive and see everything everyone said about you behind their back. Yeah.

Just like. Wait, I'm also. Are you friends with Danielle as well? I mean, like, have you talked to her about this season of Winter House? Like, is she kind of mortified by what she is? I don't think she is. No, because I have not caught up on Winter House yet. So that is my next binge.

I make sure to always get it in before Summerhouse starts. Okay. But I'm not caught up on it yet. So I've not talked to her about it yet. You didn't even watch the short scenes? No, when I get in, like I'm going to be fully in. So I had the D'Amelio's on last week. So I fully like rewatched all of season three of the D'Amelio show.

Now I was catching up with Bachelor in Paradise Real Housewives of Beverly Hills I still have to watch the Kardashians so Winterhouse is the next one but I'm gonna do that after the holidays Can't you blame the D'Amelio can't you blame the Tamra thing on the D'Amelios instead of us like I feel like they could take it like they're like i think tamra i think that was the tamilia are you kidding me so another hot topic of 2023 was ozempic i know this was first approved by the fda as an injectable medication for treating diabetes back in 2017. It was then approved in 2021 to treat obesity. Since then, it has become so popular across TikTok, among tech CEOs like Elon Musk,

and most notably amongst Hollywood and probably several housewives. But a big part of this story has been the McCarthy-style witch hunt surrounding speculation of who is and who isn't using the medication to achieve their weight loss goals. Which I feel like that kind of creates a sense of shame around the usage of the medication because no one wants to admit they've taken it. I have friends. And one thing I feel like people don't understand is I have friends outside of the show.

I have friends outside of LA. I have friends outside of this group. Let's cut right here. That's ridiculous. I don't want to hear this. And I have friends who have used Ozempic after their kids. Friends, and I'm not talking about anyone who's ever been on Vanderpump Rules.

I said this once and everyone's like, you're talking about Stassi because she says something. I'm like, I'm actually not. I'm talking about someone else. I'm not going to throw them under the bus. But one of my friends, she only did it for a couple of months, but now it's like she can't put the weight back on. She feels like her face is so sunken in. It's aged her and she's like embarrassed to admit that she used this to lose the baby weight. So I feel like there's that whole thing. And then Oprah, I know, had revealed that she used this to lose the baby weight. So I feel like there's that whole thing.

And then Oprah, I know, had revealed that she used it as part of her weight maintenance plan and whatnot. So do we feel there has been or will be a shift post-Oprah chiming in here? Well, absolutely. I think they just announced today Weight Watchers is getting in the weight loss injectables game. So it's like this is the future. Look, here's the reality. People are only mad.

Skinny people are mad because they've been getting skinny for years and they're mad that like getting skinny isn't like hard. It's not it's accessible now for everybody like everyone can afford it. It's hard to it's not it's accessible now for everybody like everyone can afford it. And so, look, I get it. Like, if you want to have surgery after you have kids because you can't snap back, I don't care. I'm going to have surgery to one day. Like, I'm going to do all of these things. Like, I don't know why people are so concerned about what people are doing. They'll throw out the whole like, oh, you're taking it away from diabetics.

That is not true what govi specifically is formulated only for obesity it's not even formulated for diet so nobody is taking these drugs away from diabetics also like oh you're gonna have obstructed bowel okay well it's my bowel don't worry about it this is my like if i can't poop it's my problem no i i'm tired it's kind of like scandalous i i'm tired of worry about it. This is my instructed battle. I'll let you know. Like, if I can't poop, it's my problem. No, I'm tired. It's kind of like Scandival. I'm tired of hearing about it.

I don't, as long as the people that need it, get it and have it, like, and that's good. I'm all for it. I've struggled with weight all my life. I'm the Luther Vanders of podcasting. I would love, I would do this. I will probably do this at some point to try to actually, like, maintain it. Like, as long as it's safe and healthy and you're taking it in the right way i do love to picture you backstage at bravo con and everybody's shooting up like give me that shot yeah like just everybody like a back room dark there's a lot of

shrinking housewives this year and i was like erica jane maybe they are just working out you know maybe they're stressed all of a sudden they discovered the right combination no i think it's a mix of everything. But Erika Jayne specifically said hormones. And that led me down hearing a lot of people's opinions of like, well, that's news to me because I gained 30 pounds on hormones and stuff like that. So it was really interesting. I think we should be in a day and age where it's fine if you take it. I'm really glad Oprah said something because when she says something, people actually listen and come back down to earth.

So it will be interesting to see in 2024 what happens. Yeah, definitely. So I do want to get into some T-Swift, but we just need to take one more quick little break. Unwrap the first of many presents this season with holidays

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Restrictions apply. Another hot topic of 2023. I mean, she's a hot topic of every year, but Taylor Swift. I feel like this has truly been the year of Taylor Swift. It's like a new level of success, even from the biggest tour of all time did you guys go to the eras tour i did not go not go so but i will say i'm going to um i'm going in may to sweden to see taylor sweden yeah yeah i'm going with my best friend and his husband and i cannot wait to see it yeah it was going with my best friend and his husband and I cannot wait to see it. It was incredible. I mean, the girl did not miss a beat. It was, I think, 45 songs, three and a half hours,

so many costume changes. It was insane. She's Times Person of the Year, setting, you know, a new industry standard for how films about concerts are distributed and has even boosted ratings for the freaking NFL with her attendance at the games so what do you think is the reason for the the Taylor effect like how did we get here this year I mean I think that she she finds a way to connect with everyone because I was not a Swifty I was not a Swifty and then when the whole thing I learned about how she didn't own her rights to her music and she was going to re-record everything that for some reason was what got me I was like because I think I'm just all about women so I'm like all right I'm gonna like be a Swifty and I'm only

gonna watch listen to Taylor's version and then I got into it from there I think she just knows like not that she knows but she just finds a way to connect with people on different levels. And I think she's been in the industry so long, people kind of like watching Vanderpump Rules from the start, people grew up with her. And then over the pandemic, she released like two albums and that were kind of huge bangers, but couldn't tour. So she was primed on top of breaking up her relationship with it. Like there was so many things that fell into place on top of, she seems like a genuinely good person. And I think people root for her, you know, through the Kanye stuff, through all that, you know, and she seems to still be able to keep her feet somewhat on the ground, even though I think there's no possible way after this year,

it's at Michael Jackson levels, I feel in some ways, but I think we just really root for somebody that seems like they make sense. Like what Kiki was talking about that blew me away of like, that's such a brilliant idea. And like, no, you will not have my voice. You might have this legally. So I'm going to go this other way. What a brilliant business person. Yeah. I feel like she's thriving. And then, you know, Kanye and scooter maybe haven't had the best years. Men are idiots. We are truly idiots. Like leave it to a woman to find the right way. And I would throw this out to Beyonce as well.

Like after watching that Renaissance movie, it blows me away how their minds work and how they're managing to still, most people cannot be at this level and still have normal ways of thinking. And both Beyonce and Taylor seem to have normal ways of thinking still. It's impressive.

Yeah. Which is why I didn't see the Taylor Swift movie, but I heard she didn't have the behind the scenes like Beyonce did, which I would love to see. I would love to see. I love the behind the scenes stuff. The only bone I have to pick with Taylor is like, how much money do you think your fans have left?

At a certain point, she's like, you get it on on-demand with three extra extra songs and they're all you see on tiktok they have every colored album they have every payments of 99 well it's like thank god sheena doesn't have more vinyl like i only have like but you know what if that's the only thing i question sometimes it's like obviously she's good but she keeps releasing like and and you're such a fan that you want all these different versions i know what it's like to be a fan i would just wonder if some of them have like i had to go to wells fargo i got a proof for a loan i can follow taylor for the next two years honestly probably yeah i had a friend who went to like five or six different cities in the country to see the tour and then

went to several no well i think he went to a couple of them but one of my sister's best friends and then also several nights here and i'm like is that just all the money you made this year like wow I mean but good on her she's got some amazing fans so I know we talked a little bit about Travis Kelsey when you were here last time but what do we think 2024 has in store for the couple i heard there was rumors of him asking her dad for her hand in marriage look it makes sense like why not i mean because it's hollywood you can do whatever you want you can get married for a few years you can then get divorced you can maybe pop out a baby like the rules don't apply when you're like rich and famous. But also everybody argued this year about,

is this a PR relationship? And at this point, whatever relationship she's going to be in is a PR relationship. So I think it's as real as it can be, but it will be interesting because I swear to God, if she gets pregnant, you are going to see the biggest population boost in the country because everyone's like,

I'm going to get pregnant now. Taylor did it. I'm going to do it. Like it is. I think we will see her become a mother in the next two years oh i agree and she'll still tour she'll bring the baby out it's gonna be fine absolutely yeah she can do it all other pop stars britney spears did you read her book? Yeah. So she released her memoir, The Woman in Me, and that was the first time we really got access into her world, like first time ever. And in one part, she reveals that Justin Timberlake had cheated on her many times, yet he painted the opposite picture of that after the breakup.

And she remained silent on the fallout until now. Like the Cry Me a River music video had the Wade Robson looking dude and all of that. And that was all I felt like we ever heard about that relationship when it came to cheating. What do you think were some of the biggest revelations that were made in the book? I mean, I think learning about the history of her family was kind of big, even just like revealing. They come from just so much trauma. And I think we knew there was obviously trauma there, but we didn't know exactly what, right?

We just knew there was dysfunction. And so kind of getting to pinpoint like when it started and how it carried on for so long I think that was important to hear and hearing her perspective of like you know being on stage at that MTV awards when Justin is having the best night of his life and it's like how she feels yeah crappy because I know we were terrible I'm sure I said terrible things about I mean we all said we were all horrible people and so it was just really makes you go forward knowing like okay

like this is how I'm going to be as a person like I know that celebrities do require fans to talk about them it's how they stay relevant but how I'm going to talk about them is so different and even just when I see her dancing naked on Instagram now I celebrate it whereas before I was like, I'm concerned.

But now I'm like, I understand why she's doing it. I mean, I think the other big trigger warning talking about abortion is revealing that her and Justin had an abortion. And that was wild because thinking about the two biggest pop stars in the world, there were two of the bigger pop stars in the world having to go through something deeply personal that none of us knew about and having to keep up public appearances. But I read that book and kind of was like, well, of course she's where she is. Now, of course, all of this, like when you think about also having your autonomy of your body and your personal choices taken away from you, because we always look, I grew up in Kansas. You always look at celebrities as aspirational as, oh my God, I want that life so badly. And then to realize what that life actually is or was behind the scenes, it's eyeopening. Do you think the process of her writing this book

was healing for her to finally, you know, get her truth out after all of these years? Cause it's like, she's been hidden behind the conversation. She's had people speaking on her behalf. We don't know how much access she has to her. Like, is it her posting? Is it, you know, what, how do you think that was for her? I feel like it could be. The problem is, is that, and rightfully so, I think she's very distrustful of actual therapists. And I do still think that she does need somebody to work out these feelings

with because like her doing it herself, she just she doesn't have the tools because why would she? So I think that's going to be the hard balance is like, how does she get the help she needs when I know that she lacks the trust? And I think sometimes there's a little bit of arrested development or you kind of are frozen in carbonite at the age you become famous. So you still see her as like childlike in a lot of ways and i think that comes out even in her expression her video expressiveness on instagram but i get worried that this could trigger another breakdown of some sort just being this open and i think we saw that after the book was released she was kind of like come on y'all i put this all but like she

was shocked about some of the reception and i think that's the big great mystery is like what how much a part of this is she and do as long as she's safe then i'm good maybe i don't need to know like that's like what i'm coming to the end of 2023 is maybe i don't need to know some things maybe it's okay let's bring back secrets in 2024 for sure i'm like i don't know even with matthew perry's death i don't need to know like he's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't need to know. Like I don't need to know exactly why. Like it's like I get it. No, totally. What do you think is next for Britney?

Do you think after writing the book, she'll write new music? She'll ever tour again? She'll just kind of try and stay as private as she can. I will say that she's one person that's a total enigma. Like, I could not predict anything. Like, she might fall in love and get married in Hawaii. Like, I don't know. I think it'll be another book.

You know, like, I think it'll be probably the same involvement she has with this book. And I do think there's still a lot of untapped things. I mean, the book was so quick. And there are even things I would love to put a microscope on from her words of like delving into like the Sam Lufty of it all. And like certain periods that I remember very deeply that I would love to zoom in on, even like the Sam Ashkari relationship, which split up, you know, during the book, they were still together. And I'm still curious about that relationship. They briefly talked about the marriage. I'd also like to know more about her relationship with Paris Hilton. There's just so many things about her day-to-day life I would still be curious with, but I think a book might be a proper format. Yeah. At the Dancing with the Stars finale the day last time I saw you

guys. So they have, you know, the whole cast come back and Jamie Lynn came up to me at the after party and she was like oh my god i'm such a big fan like and i was just like so many things you want to say to britney spears's sister in front of your face and i was just like thanks i like i i didn't honestly know what to say because like so many questions yeah and i mean but it's also weird that you know so much about her life when you just met her. But it's how when people meet you and think they assume they know you because they've seen you 10 seasons of television. But even with the Jamie Lynn stuff in the book, I was like, of course, Jamie Lynn is the way she is.

Even Brittany pointed it out. She grew into it. She was raised in a family that had money because of Brittany. She got everything that she wanted. So she, of course, had this different attitude where Brittany created a lot of those paths for that whole family, but it makes, you know, it's, it's always good to get context of like, this is why she is the way she is. Some of it's her fault and some of it isn't. Yeah. Sending love to Brittany, always long time Brittany fan. I found this photo recently. It was from a photo shoot. I think I'm like 16 years old. And someone was like, wait, I see the Britney thing there. I'll pop it up in the video if you guys are watching. So I was like, see, like when I said that season one, I was like, no, I did for a period of time.

But I've just always been such a huge fan of hers. And it's just it's so sad and wild and like when like the family's involved and to think that there aren't just like parents like as a mom now all I want to do is protect my kid yeah it yeah so I mean would you let Summer Moon get involved in the industry yeah I mean if she wants to this little girl I mean she is an actress she She turns it on, can turn it off. Like, I feel like I do want to get her into acting. But I also am really busy right now. And that's not going to be my main focus, getting a toddler into acting. I think it'll come when it's the right time. I think it'll come when it's the right time. We talked about it, but now he's actually busy developing a couple of projects right now. And I don't know.

I think when the right time comes. But if that's something she wanted to do, I would definitely support it because she does have that personality at only two and a half years old. But I was never in the industry as a child. So that's the difference. I always wanted to be. But for whatever reason, my parents either didn't allow it or didn't have the means to. And so I didn't get into Hollywood until I was 21. I did a couple extra background works in like high school, but I didn't really get fully into it until I was a full adult. So when it comes to kids, I feel like it's so different. But then also, you know, people have their opinions about

it. We've not given Summer the chance of having her be a public person already from the time she was born. She's been on YouTube. She's been on the show. She has an Instagram page. She blocks people. Instagram page she blocks people yeah people block her but you know I can only hope that Brock and I are making the best decisions for her and she at this young age loves being in front of the camera and if one day that changes then you know what no more YouTube no more show I would respect anything she wants but right now it's like no mommy I want to I want to FaceTime I want to see I want to do a video now she's also taking photos of me and my mom like she'll grab my phone she's like no do this and she'll have us pose and she takes good photos I'm like what it's yeah Sheena coffee table book by Summer Moon coming 2024 so another thing that was more recent in 2023 but apparently men think

about the roman empire like a lot there was a trend on social media where women would ask their partners how often they think about the roman empire and it was crazy how often it crosses men's minds how often do each of you think about the Roman Empire? I didn't even know what the Roman Empire was until the trend started. It's like another example of like how I'm not an actual man. Like I like a zero. Like it was like, you tell me how many times I think about Vanderbilt rules. We're in business.

But it's like a big fat whopping zero. And like I was like, oh, another thing that I'm not manly about. So here's my follow-up question. What is your Roman Empire? What is? I mean, Vanderpump Rules was my Roman. I mean, that's all I thought about in 2023. I mean, that was the majority of it.

Yeah. I don't know if it's like a specific thing, but I think like it's usually saying some line from Bravo. Like I'm usually. Well, I unhealthily think about batman a lot too that is my i'll just be like god you know it's like he trained you have to be a billy because i would think i was as a kid i thought that was like a legitimate career option being a superhero if you worked really hard batman didn't have any power so i thought that was a real

thing but i still to this day just be like god it would be amazing to fight crime and to be like active like i was thinking about that like what does, it would be amazing to fight crime and to be like, I was thinking about that the other day. Like, what does he do when he needs to go to the bathroom? How does he eat? Yeah. Let's cut this part out. What about being a detective?

Being a detect? Yes. Yeah. All you Vanderpumpers are detectives as well. So the greatest detectives. No, you are the detective. Oh, let's not bring up that wait what there's a there's old beef with me and uh sheena because he was a great detective and i deterred him from the truth

which then he figured out this by the way we're at like almost like the third or fourth anniversary of this it was like during covid i was in arizona and i was like had covid feverish on the bed flipping through and sheena or sheena's mom had holiday photos in. And I took a screenshot and I zoomed in on the names. And one of them said Summer. And then I said, I bet Sheena's baby's name is Summer. And Sheena didn't follow me at that point, immediately reaches out to me. And I'm like, oh, cool.

And I'm like, oh, well, that's fine. I'm just, yeah, great. I well that's fine i'm just yeah great i think that's gonna be awesome congratulations and i just put it to bed and then months later at her uh baby shower she made a youtube video and then people on reddit found some summer's name and i saw or somebody sent me that or maybe it was this sup facebook group and i was like i'm the greatest detective alive and And I immediately posted it. I was like, I was right. I was right.

And immediately get messages from two of Sheena's really good friends. Just like Sheena's in tears. You ruined this. You ruined this. And you know me. I was like, no, no. And Brett was like, you son of a bitch. This is what you have to do this is what you do

for a living you've sold your soul and i was like what are you talking about i just but i really didn't i told i did not stop to think about any concept oh i was like i almost shit myself i was like i was in a panic i oh it's the worst i think you're like oh you could see there's a picture i'm like just sweat fully because I was like he's gonna strangle me he's gonna strangle me and then no

it was classic just like today Sheena goes hey Brog he's like hey how you doing you know like I can't do shit

and I was like oh I'm Ryan you know and the moment passes and then Sheena goes no he's the guy remember just like the timbers

he's the guy and Brog was like okay and then it was like he was really nice the rest of the day yeah enough time has passed i will forever give him a little shit about it because also i feel like that moment it was a huge learning lesson for him and like oh i now i understand why that moment was for sheena to announce not me but he was great at his job

and figured it out and like bravo but the only thing that had upset me was i was literally so excited to message him right before the announcement went live i was thinking about ryan bailey of all people i'm like we're gonna send him a message and be like okay you were right but the second time when he was like see i was like now you took my second moment from me i wanted to reach out to you i do i do explain it to my parents i do explain i'm not even joking like i was i was i lost i was like oh my god and the thing is my account like i'm not a detective account like there's like faces but reality all these people do it really good i don't do that i make silly memes so this was the first time i figured out

something yeah and i just had a covid fever dream. Just like, I just completely upset somebody. It was awesome. But in the end, I think it also led to us becoming friends and now we can joke about it and no hard feelings. I can't wait till summer. Summer moon gets old enough for you to throw me under the bus with her and go,

this guy blew your announcement, but it's okay. We covered it up and I didn't lose any brand deals announcing her name so that was what i was worried about it was a year that was the thing it was a year of making no money my podcast was canceled with podcast one no brands were booking anyone and i had an opportunity to make money with a name announcement and this like blanket i forget how we ended up doing it but it was like we had to kind of pivot i didn't i didn't know about that part thank god i didn't lose you that deal yeah

that was why i was freaking out and in tears because i was like this is like a lot of money and so then we pivoted from that and i think it was maybe we did the exclusive instead or whatever it was but it worked out so yeah jamie messaged me he's like hey Batman Sheena's in tears right now I was like what it was yeah it was it was a hard year but this year was wild but thank you guys both for coming back getting into some end of the year shenanigans I think we should definitely continue doing some of these in the new year because I love your opinions and all of my listeners do as well. So remind everyone where they can find you.

Find me on Tik TOK or Instagram at the talk of shame or on my podcast at betches pop crime. I do a podcast for betches as well. So bad. It's good with Ryan Bailey. And I also want to promote Kiki Monique on reality checked on serious. You can listen to her every morning. Awesome.

Thanks for watching and listening guys. Happy holidays. And we'll be back next week with a solo Sheena Spills rant wrap up of the year. Bye. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.