Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Hot Topics: Royal Tea and Reali-tea

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

This week, Scheana is joined at the hot topics table by UK social media sensation GK Barry “Grace,” along with Janet & Kiki. The group weighs in on everything from the Royal Family and TikTok ban to the latest on Kyle/Mauricio playing out on “Buying Beverly Hills” and, of course, the recent drama unfolding in the VPR world. Plus, Grace visited TomTom for the first time this week; tune in to find out why she was underwhelmed! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guests: @gkbarry_ @janetelizabethx @thetalkofshame The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, March 29th.   Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Episode Sponsors:Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/honeyGrab your Liquid I.V. Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free in bulk nationwide at Costco or get 20% off your first order when you go to LiquidIV.com and use code HONEY at checkout.Love your skin again. Go to DIMEBeautyCo.com now and unlock your discount on the site.Say hello to your IRL makeup filter in a bottle, COVERGIRL's Simply Ageless Skin Perfector Essence. Only from Easy, Breezy, Beautiful COVERGIRL.Watch Vanderpump Villa, premiering April 1st, only on Hulu.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. insightful discussions from your headphones to the stage. Get ready to be inspired, entertained, and watch audio get a makeover. Tickets are on sale now at dearmedia.com slash IRL. See you on May 4 everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Welcome back to Shenanigans. This week I'm back getting into some hot topics. I feel like it has been a minute with some fabulous women. We've got a ladies only hot topics episode. Women from all across the pop culture landscape. Please welcome my dear friend and now fellow Bravo Liberty, which I just love that you're part of the fam now. Janet Kapernick from the Valley. So you're back co-hosting.

Do you feel more comfortable in this seat? I was sweating last week. I'm not going to lie. No, I'm not in the hot seat. I feel like more like co-host instead of, I don't know, guest. I can't be a guest. It's too much. But I mean, we had to do it, you know?

And hearing Bravo Liberty, I'm like, who? No, that can't be. Bravo Liberty. I remember the first time I said this to the band, I was like, you know, a bunch of the Bravo Labs and they go, I'm sorry, what did you just refer to yourself? I'm like, no, I don't call myself like that's what. Never mind. Also joining us is the host of Radio Andy's Reality Checked and the Pop Crime Podcast,

Kiki Monique. How we doing? So good. I love being here with all the ladies. Yes. I mean, I love Ryan Bailey and we'll have him back soon, but I felt like a little ladies hot topics would be fun. And all the way from across the pond, social media sensation and host of the Saving Grace podcast, who is gracing us with her presence today here from the UK. We've got also known as GK Berry, but my girl Grace, how are we doing? I'm so happy to be here.

I was saying this, I've been trying, this is my first time in LA. No way. And I've been doing the Vanderpump Rule tour. I've been doing it all. I saw, I saw you were at Tom Tom this weekend. I mean, yeah. It looks better on the show. Oh really?

It does, yeah. Okay. But I had a great time. They gave me a tequila shot in a champagne glass uh-huh and i thought is that is that a normal thing here no well if it's like a nice reposado tequila they have like the little champagne glasses and they try to make them a little fancy it was giving like you know in like your corner shop the one with the little mexican hat on yes it tastes like battery acid.

That was the tequila. It was hell. Did Schwartz give it to you? No, none of them were there. I was like, what was the point? Oh, yeah, right. Probably best that they weren't there. They might have been at Schwartz and Sandy's. It's next on my stop. It's next on my stop. Are you going? No.

Well, how's everyone doing? What did we get up to this weekend? I felt like I watched a lot of Buying Beverly Hills because I needed to know what was going on with Kyle and Mauricio. Okay. One minute in as well, they just did the intervention. I was like, huh? Yeah.

Wait, so are there updates currently, like post Real Housewives finale on that show? Yes. Yeah. I mean, I think that Mauricio really used this as his sounding board so he could get his side of the story out because we're hearing more than we heard all season of Beverly Hills. Okay. Do tell.

Fill me in. Well, I mean, pretty much here's the thing. Umanskis are a drinking family. So that said a lot. I mean, even the daughter. So I feel like she feels a little kind of outcast. Like Kyle doesn't want to party. She doesn't want to drink.

And Mauricio feels like he's about to embark on the best part of his life and he doesn't want to slow down on top of it I mean it sounded like they basically agreed that we're going to separate she said you do your thing I'm not going to ask questions you don't ask questions about me in the beginning it seemed like he didn't believe the Morgan Wade rumors but towards the end end, I think his partner was kind of like, well, what do you think? He's like, I just don't ask her because I feel like I don't want to put pressure on her. And I think the reality is if she said, yeah, I like women, his ego might take a hit. Well, he's not going to be poking around, I feel like, asking questions because if she does the same, I feel like as a viewer, there's more, you know, dirt under his situation. They've both done the same thing

though. Like, she's gone with a girl, he went with the, what was the show that he was on? Dancing with the Stars. Dancing with the Stars. They've both basically done the same thing so neither of them can say anything. I think he's been doing it a lot longer. I've heard.

I mean, there were rumors in the early seasons about the show with him. And on the reunion this season that got brought up, you know, was there ever more doubt put in in the more recent years of your relationship because of the rumors that happened in the early seasons of Real Housewives? I started getting a vibe. I mean, this is just my vibe. This is not confirmed in any way. But Santiago, who's his partner, who's featured on the show, who's very hot, looks

like it could be Mauricio's brother, like, you know, has the accent, very tall. And I was like, oh, he's sexy. And he came back from Burning Man with, like, this bleached blonde hair, and I was like, is he partying? Is he married? I looked it up. He had just gotten divorced in 2021. So I got this sense that maybe the two of them, I don't know, I think they're about

to enter this, like, F boy era 50 plus club. Interesting. That's just my prediction. Sometimes getting divorced has a cascading effect in friend groups. I'm seeing it a little bit in my life with some of my friends right now. But I see how sometimes you see somebody, especially if they're going through something similar, them making the jump and then being happier and then kind of being okay my manager do you want me saying this my manager went for a breakup i watched it and i thought i've got to do this yeah i said i've got to go i broke up mine and now it's like sometimes when you see people

having freedom and being happy when you've been in maybe an unhappy relationship it's that the boost that you need yeah to then get rid. I think so, too. Well, that's why it's interesting to watch Farrah on this season, too, because she's going through things with her fiance. Right. And so to see that and she's sort of like, I think, in the beginning stages of being like, no, everything's fine. And then the guy, she I don't know, she might be vibing with Zach kind of comes to her and he's like, well, I'll admit I'm having issues in my marriage and people thought. So I don't know. We'll see what happens.

See now that also I want to throw this one to Janet and then get y'all's opinion. Do you think with Michelle and Jesse, you know, their separation that that had anything to do with giving Brittany maybe the push that she needed to separate from Jax? To be honest, I don't think it like helped or hurt depending on how you look at the situation. Like I you know, it's not like Brittany copied her and was like, oh, this looks great. But I think she was just that extra encouragement. Yeah, you can do it. I can do it. I think that there is especially when, you know, seeing like one kid in each, you know, marriage, it's like she can do it in a healthy way. They can co-parent. I think it's like encouraging or it's comforting in a way to know that other people can do it. And, you know, I think it doesn't if you're going through problems and you see somebody else find happiness, it can motivate you to find happiness, too, I think.

Yeah. What did you both think of the Valley premiere? Sorry. Jax and Brittany actually split up. They up they're separated yes living separately and totally separated they haven't like filed for divorce or anything yet but they are separated and they're good for parenting she is just a lovely southern girl lost in jackson's world like yeah good for her for her yeah yeah so did you watch the valley premiere yeah i watched it i had an advanced screener twice no i loved it i mean i of course i had my doubts but that's like what every bravo like watchers they're always like what's it gonna be like but then it was like actually once the trailer started coming i was like oh this is gonna be great i'm gonna love it there's so much but i just thought it was like, oh, maybe it's just, you know, like, you know, just about mom life, maybe stuff.

But it hits the fan. Yeah. It all hits the fan. Especially next week's episode is going to be like, if I know correctly, based on the timeline of what happened this summer, it's going to be bonkers. Like things really. I remember being like, OK, it's's gonna be like calm and normal drama and then something happens and it is it's terrifying honestly oh wow really yeah it's a little bit I'm scared do you find it more intense filming that or watching it back both I think have their

you know it's crazy because I was just saying like I feel like things the dust kind of just settled and then now it's coming back up again. So it's going to be interesting. I feel like now, you know, at the premiere party, everybody's like, hey, yeah, you know, who cares what happened this summer? And now we have to watch it. Oh, that must be so awkward when you guys all watch your shows after months of not filming and then it gets brought back up.

Yeah. Actually, no. And then you see what people, there's a lot of stuff you don't see. So I don't see, you know, everything that so-and-so said behind my back and then I'm watching it and I'm like great well f you too yeah you know say that again right yeah yeah especially when you see the interviews you know and you're watching their inner monologue it's like you could be in a room and maybe the person's just being quiet and respectful and then you go to their inner monologue and you're like what the fuck that's what you're thinking i actually have a

question that from the most recent vanderpump so you are probably just now seeing schwartz and lala's conversation and then lala and katie's conversation for the first time how do you feel about all that like knowing like obviously you and lala had had a conversation about this but like how did that feel I mean I wasn't happy when I saw that back because I'm like Lala I did tell you I did after last summer tell her that there was a time when Schwartz tried to kiss me okay so as I'm watching this I'm like is she protecting me because I said I didn't tell anyone? Or did she actually forget because it was so long ago? And I think that when I said like he tried or just the way I said it, she didn't realize that he actually did kiss me. But as you see on this week's episode, we did not make out.

Thank God. It was not a make out. This was so random. When I saw the trailer for this year's, I was like, what? Where did that come from? It was so beyond. It was a decade ago,

more than a decade ago. That's distraction though, surely. Can I ask you a question? Sure. As an avid watcher yes do you think you will be friends with Tom again I think you're gonna see a lot of conversations this season and a very interesting reunion and um we'll see because can I say from my part right if I'm I'm friends with two people but from separate we've got two separate friendships

right it's different if someone cheats and that's they've cheated on just your friend you weren't ever friends with them i think it's very different because you've got no loyalties to them i think it's different when you've also been friends with that person, you've been friends with both of them for so many years. I think it's, I don't know, I kind of find it just a bit tough that you just can't be friends with that person anymore, even though you've got so much history with them. I know it might be an arsehole, but for me... I'm messier. I'm like, I'm taking sides.

It's Ariana. Tom can go fuck off. No, I get that, but it's also like, you know, I've got friends that, listen, I've got friends that have cheated on someone before. It's an awful situation. Obviously that situation is a little bit crazy. But I don't know, sometimes I think it's tough to put people in predicaments when you've had a long-term friendship with the other person as well.

Yeah, and you see a lot more of that this season and it is brought up at the reunion because it to me in the beginning, of course, it was black and white. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah. When it happens. Absolutely. And then a lot of time, I mean, over a year has now passed. So many conversations have been had. A full season has been filmed. And just a lot has happened in the entire friend group in many different ways right and things just aren't the same so it's hard to say where the future with any of us goes after the reunion so much happened i'll say that how was the reunion yeah and because

i i saw a clip from Andy Cohen's radio show where he said Lala and Brock were the MVPs or standouts or something like that. Yeah. Of the reunion. Of the reunion or season. I know something like that. But he said it the day after the reunion. So it had to have been fresh from that. So yeah. What can you tell us? No, I remember him saying that. And I I agree Lala was definitely the MVP of the reunion I think she says a lot of things that people think and are too afraid to say out loud yeah Lala gets scary like I love her I would never want to argue for her but you're right I would back down very quickly yeah I knew going into the reunion

for me it was going to be hard to say the things I want to say because I obviously don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but then I have to have people's backs and if me having her back upsets this person then it's just like it was really hard but I did

in my Sheena more soft spoken way say my, which you'll see. I don't know how everyone feels about what I had to say. But with Brock, it's like, I mean, I'll admit the bar was pretty low. You know, he had a really rough entry season into reality TV. Yeah, I'm loving him this season. I mean, I love him in real life. For sure. But it's like you know him. Yeah, you did. I'm loving him this season. I mean, I love him in real life. No, for sure.

But it's like you know him. Yeah, but I loved seeing him, especially like stand up for you in the gondola. And that, he's really strong. That was hot too. I was like, yeah, Brock, get it. And then I loved when he got messy this episode and was like, oh, I want to know who's hooking up.

And I was like, oh. In the moment, it pissed me off because I'm like, I was talking to Max and Max wanted to tell Schwartz. And then for Brock to do that, I was like, that was not your place. I loved it. And I'm trying to like be in a good place with Katie. And so it put me in a very tough position. No, one thing about you is you're always in the sticky situation and it's never your fault. You're always in the middle. And you're never your fault you're always in the middle like

and you're usually getting injured too i was able to make it out with no injuries um physically emotionally and mentally it's different sometimes but but i do also agree with andy he said that brock's haircut he felt like gave him like a superpower and I'm so glad he was gonna do a buzz cut right before the reunion and I'm like please don't do it please don't do it like people are just now seeing the haircut and it looks so good so I was happy he didn't do that but as far as Lala like you know she doesn't put up with BS and the way the whole season was, I mean, it was hard. Her and I were really in tough positions often. And I feel like if you're saying one thing off camera and another thing on camera,

because you don't want to go against, you know, what's popular with the audience. I mean, she's going to call it out. And that's exactly what she did at the reunion. I'm so excited to see that. I know, me too. I'm so excited. It was hard, though, because there was a moment where I just realized I have to speak up and I'm so scared too. Yeah, that's like my worst nightmare.

Yeah. My worst nightmare. And it's filmed. Yeah. There's a difference in doing it in real life and no one seeing it. When it's on camera and you have to watch it like four months later. Yeah. It's just absent.

I couldn't. I know. I don't know how you do it. It's wild because like being friends with you guys, you hear everybody's sides and then you get to watch it. So it really is like there's, what do they say? Like three sides of every story. Three sides of every story. Yeah. There's the screenshots. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I can't wait to watch it too. Definitely. Okay. We're going to take a quick little break and then I

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But I didn't expect, like I remember thinking, because I'd watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, so I knew Lisa Vanderpump, right? And I thought, she's off the show now, so I need to find another way to indulge. Vanderpump rules. It was like, crack. So what do the Brits think of LVP? And am I allowed to say Brits? Of course, yeah, of course you can.

You can say whatever you want. I think she is my version of the Queen. Like, if she ever demises, i will have to have a month of mourning wow yeah i'll be really upset obviously i don't know her as a person you've never worked for her oh i bet like she'll love to hear this you know what it is i just love loved jiggy yeah r.i.p may he rest um but I just think she's kind of just iconic. But everyone in the show is so iconic. And it's so funny because we had like a screening in the UK of the new season.

And it's crazy how big it is in the UK. Because I don't know if you know how big it is in the UK. I was in London February 2020, literally right before lockdown. And being there, being in Australia, I did get recognized a lot. Do you know what's funny? Since then, it's like 20 times more. Really? 100%.

So, Scandival made its way all the way across the pond. Oh, it was, yeah, 100%. I was in Scotland withana a month after everything happened and it was wild how many people like recognized her like and that's scotland yeah because i don't i didn't realize until i was in the netherlands recently the show does not air there whatsoever i mean it was five days and not a single person like said i was like whoa were you okay yeah yeah and then there was a british girl who came up she was there to see the 1975 as well we went to that concert when we were there but it was so funny because it was very humbling but i was like

every country i hated it i i didn't here's the thing if I was expecting it I would have been more in love with it that I could just go anywhere and not worry yeah but I'm always on such high alert where we're out at a club with my cousins and I'm like just very aware of you know how I dance or what I do just like I'm always thinking someone's taking a photo and you know it's just there are always eyes on us. I just like I'm always thinking someone's taking a photo and, you know, it's just there are always eyes on us. And I just get very like I need to, you know, present myself as properly as possible other than this week's episode when I decided to get drunk on camera. God, I'm like, I do not want to watch that back. Which doesn't happen often. It doesn't. There's usually one episode I let myself just go buck wild and I do shots and I make a fool of myself and everyone's like, no, you were great.

You were so funny. I'm like, that was so cringe. But I think we always need a little bit of cringe on Vanderpump Rules. So you're welcome to get that from me always. But yeah, it was it was humbling. But it was just like when I've been in London, when I've been in Australia, when I've been in even like Mexico, it's just like people because there's like a bunch of tourists or whatever. I was with you when people were waiting for you getting off the plane from.

That was wild. At the Sydney airport. And then they recognized me. And I was like, if you know who I am, you are deep. Yeah. It's bad. But now I kind of want them to film episodes in the Netherlands because then we won't see people like with cameras in the background.

You can just like do your own thing. No, totally. So I was like, OK, now I know where to go if I just want to literally get away. It was so refreshing to meet people who also didn't even ask like, what do you do? It was like, oh, you're here on vacation. Oh, your dad's from Holland. That's cool. Do you want to get a drink?

And I'm like, yeah. I made some new friends. She was like, you don't want a selfie? it was so fun like i just got to make friends just as a normal person as sheena 15 years ago not sheena on vanderpump rules i mean we're don't come stars they're just like yeah people are gonna treat you like paris hilton if you come to london maybe i should go yeah she's more like it. Okay, so I have to ask, what are your thoughts of this season so far? I love this season.

I think it's good. I think it had, I'm sad Rachel wasn't in this season though. I will say I thought the drama could have continued. But I think weirdly enough, the viewers have now switched and they are on tom's side a lot of yeah in the uk i think a lot of people are on tom's side and they actually feel bad and so many people feel bad for you which god thank you i need more of this i do need to go to the uk but no because i think, listen, British people,

there's no morals there. We've got no morals. We're thorough. So we get it. So we forgive easily. So I think, yeah, I don't know. I think Ariana's coming across... I get it. I don't know if she's

coming across well this season. But also, I think we forget that this was also filmed quite soon after this all came out. Like four months. So for us viewing it, this has been ages. So we're like, well, why is she still hung up on it? If someone cheated on me with my best friend, first of all, I'd be in jail. Yeah, same. No, I would be in jail.

Absolutely. I'd be on death row for what I'd done. So I get it. But I think because it's been so long for the viewers, they're like, why is she still like this? But the context isn't there. Yeah, they need to throw up some dates so you really get the idea. This is what I mean.

On the scene, it needs to be like two months after. Then I'd be like, I get it. Yeah. And I mean, for those who actually are like follow, it's like, okay, well, you know, Tom's birthday is beginning of July. So it's like that's kind of when we started filming. But Scandival was beginning of March. So, yeah, it was only like four months. Was that it?

Yeah. Yeah. All of March, April, May, June. All the exceptions. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Yeah.

But then you have the reunion, which we just filmed a week and a half ago. So that is current. And you'll see that air in may so that'll be very much today where we're all at it must be so frustrating when you filmed so long ago and you just want to give your yeah input but you can't yeah yeah and then even when we finished the season and then you know we're at bravo con people haven't seen the season yet they're still living in last season where i'm like we just filmed a whole season but nobody knows this is like a black mirror episode it really is yeah it is wow love that for you okay so i have a fun game because i

saw your recent tiktok pointing out some observations you've made about Americans. If you have any more to add to the list. I've got so many. So in the video, she mentioned that it's weird Americans don't drink Prosecco, although... I literally love Prosecco. She does. Thank you, because I was told... One of my go-tos.

So my brother lives in Brooklyn, right? And his girlfriend lives in America. And I'm a big drinker family, so we drink a lot. And we always drink Prosecco. And when she was over for Christmas, she went, why do you drink that? And I was like, why don't you drink that? And she was like, no, no, no.

When you go to America, people don't drink Prosecco. And then I started spiraling. What, they drink champagne or they just don't I didn't get that far okay I was so in shock by that statement I was like what do you mean so yeah then I thought I'd do a TikTok on it and everyone in the comments was like you're an idiot and I was like okay fair well I order Prosecco specifically because there's been I've been burned too many times by accidentally ordering champagne and then being charged like $500 for a bottle if If you say Prosecco,

they know that you're in the 200 range max. And La Marca is delicious. I drink that like every day in COVID. I love it. Not COVID. That was a dark time for us all. Yeah, we were all with a straw. Yeah, right?

But I saw you said you also that we don't eat jacket potatoes with cheese. And beans. And beans. No, beans on toast. The TikTok made it look really, I thought you said you also that we don't eat jacket potatoes with cheese and beans, no beans on toast. The TikTok made it look really like I did a whole story about the jacket potatoes. Okay. Wait, what is a jacket potato?

I mean, I think it's like a baked potato and they kind of, but they were putting extra things on it that maybe aren't supposed to be on it. The beans I'm cool with. Okay, good. But then there was like, I think it was like, it's like a fish. It was like a, someone put like a chopped fish or something.

That's why I can't claim them. I don't know where they're from in England, but they're not from where I'm from. All we do is be like a heated jacket potato, the skin on, hot cheese, melted cheese and beans. That sounds amazing actually.

I could get with that. Oh, or tuna and sweet corn. That's where I was like, I got it. No, no guys, I will not take this. I will not take it. You must try it with a bit of mayo in the tuna. Okay, so it's like a tuna salad-ish. You can tell that we had a war in England. That's our

food and that's our rations. Yeah, that's funny. Okay, so the Atlantic isn't the only thing that's our food and that's our rations yeah that's funny okay so the Atlantic isn't the only thing that divides Brits and Americans so I'm gonna name off some controversial topics among Brits and Americans and hopefully we can all find some common ground okay so is it fall or is it autumn? Autumn. I like both. Depends on who I'm talking to and how fancy I'm on the show. Yeah, exactly. People have asked if I have another girl if I'm going to name her Autumn

because Brock has an older daughter named Winter and then we have Summer. And I'm like, no. It ends with that. Sales tax? Who? Sales tax. What's that? Oh my God, I wish I didn't know what that was.

I know. I know what that is. Whenever you buy something, instead of it being like if something's a dollar, it's actually like $1.09 because you get charged a tax on everything you buy here. Yeah. But we don't do it. So I had to check with the management there. I know.

The Pledge of Allegiance, do you see it as patriotic or indoctrinating is it just yay or nay i guess so i think it's weird yeah i mean do people still do that in school i don't know patriotism was fun until somebody ruined it yeah exactly it's always a bit weird being really into your country yeah do you know what i mean like it always feels a little bit well yeah i mean the american flag didn't scare me until a few years yeah until like 2016 and now i'm like oh they have an american flag and i'm right in the street before i walk in front of that house take it really even in england sometimes i think yeah you've got nothing better to do yeahips versus fries. So what is the proper name

for French fries? And then like, because like, what would you call like Doritos or something? You know, that's a chip. I'd say crisps.

Okay. And chips. I love that. Crisps is like a hard one. Chips is like fries. Gotcha. But I, I hear you

when you say fries. I get what you're saying. I like crisps. I think that's a cuter name. Yeah, that sounds weird. I'm going to start saying that. Being an asshole. But I would also think it's a crisp.

Yeah. And I would never say I want to have like fish and fries. I would say fish and chips. Yeah. Yeah. That's just a thing. Yeah. Fish and chips.

Yeah. Wearing shoes inside. I feel like Americans do it more than Brits maybe. I don't really do that. Or when I go into someone's house, I go, oh, do you want me to take my shoes off? Yeah, I never do that. I always wear shoes in the house. You walking through the white rug.

My husband, Jason, has a big thing about this. He has slippers that go on as soon as he comes in. And then the slippers, like even if he's like picking a package up from the porch, he won't step outside in his slippers. And also with pajamas, pajamas, he won't even like go for a walk around the block with a stroller with me. Oh, I'll go shopping. It's crazy. Same.

There's a difference for me. I've definitely jumped in a car to like a drive-thru in my pajamas. Oh, yeah. I've definitely done that. Definitely. Okay. Now, this is a big one, especially as someone who has worked in the service industry for a long time.

Tipping service workers. Okay. We were just talking about this. So in England, we are stingy, vast. Am I allowed to swear? Yes. Yeah, we're stingy pricks. We don't tip because a lot of the time in England,

your tips don't go to your server. They will just sort of spread it out. But in America, it's so, and you tip a lot. It's like, what, 20%, 25%. Do you know how much that is? That's like a whole other meal that you're tipping. But like, I'll do it. But if you're not

used to that, English people wouldn't tip. You wouldn't think to tip. Never. It's not a thing. But the servers in England are paid a livable wage. Like, our servers are paid like $2 an hour and then they have to have tips. Same in Australia. They don't tip there either. And whenever you do tip, they're like, oh my God.

Yeah. You sure? But do you know what's funny? Did you mean to do that? Over here, you can tell people want to be tipped because they're so nice to you. Yeah. They'll do every, in England,

they're like, yeah, sit over there. Yeah. What, you want food? Yeah, it takes forever, I feel like, for everything. Yeah, order food at a restaurant. It's that kind of vibe. Okay, the date format. Month and day versus day and month.

I don't get the way you do this. Because they do this in Australia as well. I know. I don't get it. So like, if we're in February, I'd say the 12th of the 2nd, 2024. Which makes sense because it goes from small to big. Like day, month, year year it is strange that we but

you know i'm just used to our way the metric system you know like whenever brock says something about kilometers or whatever i'm like kilograms i'm like pounds miles like come on i i don't know we wanted to make it very hard for no reason i can do it in stone and that's the only way I can work out. What do you mean in stone? Is that the word? No, I want to learn stone because I would be way skinnier in stone.

It is. It sounds so much better. It does. When I'm like, one stone is 100 pounds and I can just be like one. 14. One stone is 14 pounds.

Interesting. So it sounds so much less and you feel so good. It's like you're on the moon. Yeah. Gravity. I like that. Interesting. So it sounds so much less and you sound so good. It's like you're on the moon with gravity. I like that. Yeah. Now this is a big one.

Driving on the right versus the left. I would die if I drove over here. And I would die if I drove over there. But you guys don't have roundabouts,

do you? We do. Oh, okay. Well, that's me out the window. I don't understand how you do a roundabout the other way though. It's so confusing. window. I don't understand how you do a roundabout the other way, though. It's so confusing.

Oh, my gosh. You give way to the right and you go round clockwise. But you would go round anti-clockwise and give way to the left? No, you're yielding and coming in through the right. I'm having a stroke thinking about this. Yeah. Do you know what? I respect people that can drive over hip.

There's no way. Even like your laws with pedestrians. If it says you can cross a road, you can still turn right. Yeah. I've nearly died for a time because I didn't realize it doesn't apply to people turning. Well, also, L.A. drivers are the worst drivers I've ever seen in my life. So this is like a different. No one cares.

I'm walking out like no one will hit me. They're all trying to hit me. Oh, yeah. I didn't get insurance before coming out. I regret it. Oh, yeah. Don't go to a hospital yeah don't really be screwed yeah i'm clinging on till i go back home yeah absolutely not we were in australia recently and we picked up my cousins on the way to a music festival and brock just after i mean he's born and raised in new zealand and australia but has been out here for like eight and a half years now and so he's driving and my cousin was like wrong side wrong side he just like kept it was the roundabout so it was throwing him off and then when we would get to a light and then the island was I'm like

wait why are you going to the oh yeah that's the right side the left side is the right side but you guys don't do like black cabs here what do you do cabs like taxis we used to before uber and lyft yeah because we were in, what's the place where all the stars are on the road? Hollywood. Hollywood. And I was like, we can just get like a taxi.

There's no taxi. Not anymore. Uber and Lyft took over. That's crazy. New York still has taxis, but that's the only place I can think of. Taxi drivers in New York are absolutely crazy. They're mad at the Uber and Lyft drivers who took all their money.

Warm or cold behavior to strangers? I'm pretty cold. Depends. I used to be warm. Like if you were to get in an elevator, do you talk to the person? I saw Brock post about this recently and I was like, don't ever talk to a stranger in an elevator. What is wrong with you? No, but if I'm meeting someone, I'll go over to make them feel comfortable and not awkward.

Even if I'm at a shop, I'm like, you're right. Weather's so shit, isn't it? Like I'm just chatting shit to make them feel comfortable. But maybe that's just my issue. Okay, last one. Ending text with x always so what does that mean like a kiss oh that's cute but then what if you do two three four depends how drunk i am i promise you if i message you drunk you're getting a love heart and three kisses wow and i hope you're

well i want to text you when you're drunk anytime You can text me anytime. You can text me anytime. But that's a British thing, isn't it? Yes. People don't do like kisses over here. No, sometimes an XO. XO, yeah. But not just an X. I'd never XO unless I was being sarcastic. Oh, really?

Then I'd do an XO to show I'm being sarcastic. Oh. Oh my God. Uh-huh. That's interesting because I would be like XO, XO. That's good to know. Right? Gossip girl.

Yeah. Do you know something else I've noticed since being over here? A man came up to me and I didn't realize I'm quite tall. Right. And apparently it's weird to be quite tall and a woman over here because a guy came up to me and was like, you must play volleyball. Oh, yeah. And I think people think I'm a man in a wig

because I'm so tall and women aren't very tall over here. So I feel like I stick out. How tall are you? I'm 5'9", 5'10". Same. Do you get this? I get volleyball,

I feel like it's a thing. I've never been near a volleyball. It's because we're mean to short kings in this country. I think that's what it is. So short guys see tall women and they have to take it out on us. That really offended me because I thought, I don't even know your name. You think I do sport? Yeah.

Do sport. That really pissed me off. That was my first introduction. I thought, cool. Just step on him and move on. See what I'll do. Like a dominatrix. Yes. Yeah. Love it. All right. yeah just step on them and move on yeah see what i'll do like a dominatrix yes yeah love it all

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Okay, so while we have Grace here and we're doing a Hot Topics episode, I felt like we definitely have to talk about Princess Kate. And I've seen, okay, so social media has been, you know, obviously all over this the past month with theories of the absence of Kate Middleton. There were reports that she died. She was in a coma. She ran away because she found out her husband had fathered a child with her friend Rose. And I mean, there was like a, oh, she had a BBL. There were like all of these crazy rumors. I was a firm believer in the BBL. I really thought that happened. Literally all over the place.

My sister was filling me in on this last week. She's like, there's so many conspiracy theories. And I'm like, wait, what? Because I very much stay away from the news. So I'm like, fill me in. Tell me what's going on. But now it's been revealed, obviously, that she's undergoing cancer treatment. So sending her the best wishes.

undergoing cancer treatment so sending her the best wishes but I want to know who do you think is to blame for how badly the story got out of hand do you think it's the palace and royal family the general public or both I don't think the palace even wanted that to come out I feel like we pick up on things especially like in England the royal family is such it's a bit half and half but a lot of people are so invested in it right so people notice things that and as soon as one person says it then it starts spiraling out of control and everyone's talking about it but I just think yeah I don't even think it was the press I think everyone was just absolutely so confused and in England we love an affair so we were like it has to be that it absolutely has to

be that i don't understand because they had said she was going to be out of commission for a while they had announced that so i didn't understand why people were getting up in arms that she was not kind of i feel like in america when a celebrity's like i would like privacy at this time or like a reality star do you know like it was did you see the picture that was really photoshopped yeah Yeah, right. And like AI. That's what I was going to say next. So we were like,

this is like the royal family, the palace. How have they released something that is so bad that it starts all the conspiracy, well, I love a conspiracy theory. I do too. So I was into it.

I'm like, okay, wait, tell me all of the things. If this was like Harry and Meghan or something, it would have been 10 times worse. Oh, yeah. it would have been like 40 times worse for sure you guys like them i do i do good yeah yeah good don't ask someone in england that yeah i love them do you think that this has hurt the royal family's image no one i'm gonna be honest with you here and you can take this as you want people my age don't really care about the royal family it's not i think it's so outdated like why are you

so rich for doing you know like i don't know it's a bit outdated so i don't think anything would hurt them but i think slowly as the generations are going on i think people are just slowly fading that out i don't think there is like looked up on as they wait so americans do you think americans are more invested in the royal family oh 100 oh my god like 100 is obsessed like i think American people are keeping the royal family going because in England everyone's just like meh yeah

that's Buckingham Palace that's amazing it's not but yeah some Americans love that and I love that for them it keeps tourism coming

you know so I love that so you brought up Meghan so from a UK perspective why do you think that Meghan Markle hasn't been well received in the UK I think she's American and I think she's just very different to what From a UK perspective, why do you think that Meghan Markle hasn't been well received in the UK?

I think she's American. And I think she's just very different to what maybe the royal family is. You know, you've got to think they're so traditional. They're very old fashioned. I love Meghan Markle. I think she's amazing. I don't think she's ever done anything wrong. But I just think you've got to think we're from a country that is very small,

very set in their ways, and it's a lot of the older generation that don't like change. So, yeah, and they never really have privacy. So as soon as someone asks for some privacy, a lot of people don't respect that because they're like, well, you're in a family that doesn't have privacy. You're a public figure. You're meant to be for the public so people get quite funny about it

but I think a lot of the blame was based on her yeah maybe it shouldn't have been yeah the royal family really missed the mark by changes coming no matter what they would have accepted her and leaned into like this is our new modern royal family yeah like and we you know we have somebody from a different country and it's totally fine like that would have been been it could have then, I think, helped them carry on longer. Now I feel like they're going to get pushback from our generation. Well, because I like you said, Americans love the road. I didn't really care that much about the road. I would pay attention.

But then when Megan came, I was like, oh, my God, I'm watching the wedding. I'm doing everything. And I might have gone to England just to see what she was doing. So, yeah, they did miss the mark. They missed the mark all. They missed the mark all. Come on. I feel like as a young american girl

i always thought like oh prince william he's so dreamy so cute prince harry and you kind of imagine this fantasy of like oh going to england you fall in love with one of them and then you become a princess and like megan markle did that so it was i think for the first time too i was oh i'm invested in this i've had a crush on Harry, and then a black girl got to marry Harry. I was like, wait. I was like, wait. Yeah. I think a lot of it's the press, though. I think maybe the royal family, actually, they might not even be that bad, but a lot of it can be spun out of proportion.

But, yeah, I hope she's well. Yeah. I started binge-watching Suits. She's very good at it. Oh, my God. So did Brock. Yeah. But I could see, like, I i mean there are some sexy scenes of her

and yeah i was like maybe they didn't like oh i'll start watching it then i didn't realize yeah all right well before we move on to the next topic obviously sending our best wishes to princess kate and the family and we hope for a healthy outcome for everyone because that was wild yeah Yeah. Photoshop's and all of that. But I do have some other topics I want to get into. The Schwartz kiss I know we touched on a little bit. I can't believe it. I mean, when I saw that in the teaser, I was like, oh, it's they're going to. It's no way did that ever happen or, you know. I mean, it didn't happen.

I thought there was zero truth to any of it. I didn't realize that Schwartz had tried to kiss you at some point. I did love all of the rumors that were swirling. They're like, it was probably Vegas Sheena. That's what I thought. It was that girl from like season eight or whatever. I thought it was going to be and that they had just cut out maybe him saying like, Vegas Sheena and I made out once. Yeah.

I didn't know. But here's't know. But here's my thing. Like, okay, you're kind of getting shit for like not saying anything. But okay. Right. Imagine if you had said something. They would have turned it around and said like, why are you bringing this up now?

You're trying to destroy a marriage. Right. You're trying to make it about you, Sheena. Everybody makes a mistake. Like, nobody cares. It was so old. Could you imagine if I told Katie this before her wedding, I would have been making her wedding about me. You'd be dead.

You'd actually be dead. There's no way. Literally. So it's like, first of all, there was no make out, nor did I kiss him. He kissed me. I said no. He shot his shot. I shot him down.

Like, I just want to make this very clear. And this was more than a decade ago. From the time that he tried until they got married was like five or six years, right? Yeah. So it's not like also you're like, oh, by the way, since I'm in your wedding six years ago. I honestly don't even think I remembered around that time. It was something that I buried. I was like traumatized by it because despite what the world may think, this homewrecking horror version of me, I am not a cheater.

I don't cheat on people. Someone I was with back in 2006 was cheating on his wife. I didn't know that. Like, I am not a cheater. So in this moment, it was, I think when I was drunk, as we know, at Hotel Ziggy. But when I said, I don't know if it was right around when Shay and I got engaged. I just remember my sister was in high school. So that was sometime between season one, season two, this like cheerleading competition that Ariana came with me to. But I was not about to get back to this group of women in LA who hated me for being a homewrecking whore

and being like, by the way, when your man was drunk, he tried to kiss me. I said no. That's such a good point. Let me give you one more way to hate me. I kind of cheated on you, but it wasn't my fault

because I didn't want the kiss, but he kissed me. It was just like there was no winning in this situation. So in that moment, I said, this never happened. You take this shit to the grave. You go to your room. I go to mine. And that's a good way to deal with it.

Nothing happened. And I didn't want to hurt Katie because I also knew he was a makeout slut and he had cheated on her already. And I was not about to be one on the list of women who like hurt her with this there's no way every woman i know every woman has a secret that they haven't told a friend specifically not to hurt i know i'm taking stuff to the grave yeah well i've also learned in um therapy that I think sometimes my defense mechanism or trauma response is to often just like box up certain things, you know, and I am. I feel like I'm so hyper aware because the whole world says that I make everything about me. It's like I'm I don't even want to open up about certain things because I don't want people to think that I'm making anything about me.

But it always backfires anyways. I don't think you do, but I think people need to think that because you're on a show, the way they edit it makes me, because you're talking about a topic that's so relevant, it looks like you're talking about it constantly. But you're not. It's my job. You have to talk about it.

You're being asked about it. So obviously anyone in that situation yeah would be talking about it yeah and also if you say something twice like ever if those two times are filmed and it looks like you're talking about something a lot but really you only said it two times yeah ever you know I feel like too with EMDR therapy I've done a lot of that last year I'm now learning more how to like unpack and address those type of memories in a healthy way where it's like I can compartmentalize stuff but ultimately if you just keep things in it kind of eats up at you you know and that's even how I felt this season just like keeping in that hatred and anger for Sandoval I was like I don't

have to forgive you and move on and be your best friend again, but I have to find a way to release this because it is unhealthy for me. On the inside, on the outside, just every way. It was like, I just was not okay. Grace, do Brits love therapy? No. Okay, I didn't think so. I want to be a Brit.

But I'm going to be honest, I think it shows. Like, we are so troubled. I I want to be a brat. But I'm going to be honest. I think it shows. Like, we are so troubled. I'd love to do a bit of therapy. I think I need therapy. Okay, so with staying on that topic, Katie had relayed that me not telling her was lying by omission. So my question for you all is, if someone makes an unwanted advance on you,

do you have an obligation to tell their partner and think about the position i was in situational yeah yeah it's also just a shitty position to be in like how dare schwartz like come in hot on you like that like that's like yeah shitty of him he put you in that weird position he should be the one apologizing to everybody right now and also if you're really drunk if that person is so if he's like blackout drunk or something like that in my mind it would be like okay he was just so drunk and he was that's what then i'd just be like he's probably not going to remember this anyway and it would create a massive deal so i'm just going to pretend it didn't happen that is why i would do that. And why would I ever then bring this up later? Like, by the way, you just asked me to be a bridesmaid,

but I have to make this about me for a second and tell you something. Like, there's no way in hell I was doing that. And at that point, that wouldn't have made a difference, I don't think. No. So it would just have been a stupid, like, It would have just upset her.

Yeah, exactly. Kate had already forgiven Tom for making out with people drunk behind her back. So, crazy sentence. I genuinely felt like I was protecting her and her feelings. And this was someone that as mean as she was to me, I still wanted to be her friend. And I still wanted to build this friendship. So, it's like there was no way I was going to tell her that because it would have made her look at me differently all of these years.

When she already didn't like me and didn't even do anything to her. Which is also sad because it shouldn't be on you. Like, it's not like you were hitting on him and you were making a move on him. He was advancing on you. And you're getting the blame somehow, which I don't like. It's always the girls. Yeah.

It's always us getting the blame. Yeah. I know. Schwartz has, like, escaped for years. Just like, oh, that's your personality. He's so charming. He doesn't know what he's doing. He smiles like a little puppy dog and somehow gets away with everything.

And I'm like, wait, I hate you, but I don't. I know. And for him to say that we were joking about it around the holidays, I'm like, bro, I did not even see you around the holidays. No, no, no, no. But I was just like, when I saw i saw that i'm like what are you talking about and lala was probably thinking like bitch i spent christmas with you like what do you mean at the holidays oh schwartz anyways also on this week's episode the topic of sharing locations came up i love this i can't believe you have that many people so i thought i had a lot like 20

people's locations you have 50 something here's the thing. Janet, can I tell you, like, if you looked at my Find My Friends, here's the thing. I genuinely don't go on this app to see where all of these people are. I do. Okay, that's you. I will text my friends to see if they made it home safe when they're drunk and in an Uber by themselves. That's true. I always do that. I get that from my mom.

That's how I realized that Raquel stopped sharing her location with me because she didn't respond to me one night and I was like, hi, did you make it home? And I was like, oh, I could just check. And I'm like, location not loading, location not loading. And there were a couple times that that happened. So I finally questioned her about it because I'm like, yo, what are you hiding? Like, come on.

This is weird. It's been two or three times I've tried to see if you're home safe. And so there's, the only time I really check is if someone's on their way over. I'm like, oh, are they close? I don't need to bother you while you're driving. You know? But it makes it look like I'm like, who is it? Who is it?

So they had me count how many people's locations I had when I was in my interview. And I mean, I still have people. I have Robbie Hayes' location. You do? I haven't talked to the guy in years. It's just I've never gone on and been like, we're not. After this airs, Robbie's going to be like, remove.

There's people on here that it's like the people I did my show in Vegas with. Like, I don't need some of the Bachelor Pack guys. I want to look at your map. Let me see your map. I don't need these people's locations anymore. I've just, I've never gone on to unshare. Oh my god, you have so many dots all over.

Yeah. How do you get them to share? I want to be able to share with me. That's the thing is I don't even ask. It like automatically loads all those people. No, it'll just be, we're talking about something in conversation. And like my friend Madison, who was my neighbor when I was living on the West side, she's like, Oh wait, I don't have your location. And I was like, Oh yeah, sure. And then we just like exchange. It's like usually brought like, oh, wait, I don't have your location. I was like, oh, yeah, sure. And then we just like exchanged. It's like usually brought up in a casual conversation. I don't share my location, but I want people to share their location. I'm nosy.

I'd want to see. I just have my parents and that's it. Yeah. So it becomes this thing of like, oh, Sheena tracked Max and that's how she found out. No, no, no. I texted individually Katie and Max because they went home together that night. And I said to each of them individually, not in a group chat, do you make it home safe?

Do you make it home safe? I don't remember if Katie responded. I think she maybe just said like, yeah, I'm good or whatever. But Max responded with this weird emoji that I didn't even know. It was like in the new update. It was like a black face with yellow dots and like a line with like, it was like a dotted like smiley face. Oh, I know what you're talking about.

And I was like, what's that supposed to mean? He was like, uh-oh. And I'm like, are you good? Like, so then I checked. And you see what, you see Katie and Max's dots on top of each other. I don't have Katie's location. But, and then Brockck was like well you

know where she lives and so i show brock and i was like do you know what this emoji means and he's like no and i'm like brock's like check his location you have it and i was like oh yeah so i look and i'm like did max move into katie's building is max at kristin's no kristin's with luke and then i'm like matt there's no max and katie i'm like maybe they're just in the uber still talking. Whatever. So I let it go. So then the next morning, Max had texted me and was like something like it was bound to happen or whatever.

And Brock was like, I know. So then Brock tells me, we'll check his location again. So I do. And he was still at Katie's. So I'm like, you spent the night. I'm assuming you don't have his location anymore. No, I still do. Oh, okay. No, I still do.

Until next week. Because that's the thing. It's like, oh no, he texted me this morning and he goes, wait, I heard it's in the episode tomorrow night. How bad is it for me?

He's like, I haven't told my mom. I haven't told my friends. Now everyone's going to find out. Max gets around. He does. Because he and Kristen have hooked up too, right? Yeah.

I was first. I was going to put that out there. And I have have hooked up too, right? Yeah. That's public. I was going to put that out there. And I have never hooked up with Max. I see people saying like, oh, Janet had a threesome with Max and Dana. Never. Did you want to? Never happened. I wanted to hook up with Dana.

I've never been attracted to Max. Is it true? As you should. Okay. So, what are your thoughts on sharing locations with friends? Because I know you did used to, but then you had an incident where you had to stop. I'm a crazy person, so I had to remove it completely. Yeah. But, I mean, what do you think?

I want people to share their location with me. I don't want to share mine. I don't know why. I'm just weird like that. But, like, it's not because I want to stalk them. I just kind of want to know, like, where are you today? I'm at home. Yeah. Most likely yeah are you doing something fun i'm the exact set i love knowing where everyone is if they're coming around i like to track them but i don't

want people to know where i am because i'm like an avid liar i've left if i've said i've left i haven't left or you'll say i'm on my way and you're still do what it is as well if i don't want to have a conversation i'm like babe i'm on the motorway like i can't speak i'm at home i just don't want to pick up the phone fair and if they've got my location they're gonna be like your bare face line yeah so i can't have that on my back yeah that's fair yeah thank you i get it yeah so anyways topic of conversation that i just felt like i needed to clear up because it's like everyone in the group is like oh sheen attracts people and there's even something later in the season that comes up and i felt like someone was trying to catch me in a lie like oh

well did you see where so and so went and i'm like no and i don't you have her location i'm like yeah but i didn't look i'm not just sitting at home looking like i'm they're like, don't you have her location? I'm like, yeah, but I didn't look. I'm not just sitting at home looking. Like, I'm. They're actually like, you're a spy. Literally. I'm not Kristen Doty. Okay. See, that's the thing about you, Sheena.

It's like, you're so just like honest about things. I am. And people, they will jump on you. But like, look inside yourself. You do the same thing. You just would never admit it out loud. Yeah. And so that's why it's easy to pick on you because you're like, I not gonna tell you i know also you're better than me i would be stalking if

i had those dots i would be all i would do is sit down and watch all the dots move around town i would have like a graph yeah of where they are all the time sheena's on the move sheena's on the move just going back to her house a second time this week yeah i mean just looking at your map i'm like oh does tori live close to your new house? Here's the thing, and this is what gets brought up later in the season. I don't know where she lives. So if her dot

looks like it's close to me, I know she's in the same city, but I've never been to her house. So therefore, I would not know if her dot was at home or if she's somewhere else. I would have everybody's dots memorized. Alright, you need to get back on that. You need to get back on that. All right, we're going to take one more quick little break,

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Brock listens to this podcast. I think it's called the All In podcast, and they were talking about it the other day, the TikTok ban that I know they're trying to do. So the House of Representatives has passed a measure to ban TikTok if its China-based owner doesn't sell its stake. So they basically want to ensure that China doesn't access private data from the app's 170 million U.S. users or be able to influence them through its algorithms. The bill is now facing an uncertain path in the Senate after easily sailing through the House.

And I know Vice President Kamala Harris has said this week that the bill doesn't intend to ban TikTok, but instead deal with its ownership. So other politicians are advocating for intelligence agencies to declassify information about TikTok, China's ownership that has been provided to senators in classified briefings, etc. So my question is, what do we think about this? And do we need to see this classified information before we can make a determination if TikTok poses an actual threat? First of all, you sound like Elle Woods right now. I get to know what you just said. This one I had to read my notes for because I wanted to get the facts straight, which is why I have my Andy Cohen cue cards. I think what we don't know can't hurt us.

I'm a firm believer in that. I'm a data slut. I hit accept to all of the like, can we have all your data? My cookies are everywhere. So like, I'm just like, I don't know. I mean, I'm already giving away my data and cookies to everybody. I always say accept all. Yeah. And then I'm like, wait, was I supposed to do that? I don't know. I mean, I'm already giving away my data and cookies to everybody. I always say accept all. Yeah.

And then I'm like, wait, was I supposed to do that? I don't know. I sign away my, I'm like, we've lost so much privacy just having an iPhone and all the apps and everything we do. I'm just like, I don't know. You don't have privacy in 2024. Yeah. I know you know everything about me before I even, like, you don't even have to put your social security number into things anymore. Like, you just put your name and like all your history. Yeah.

And it's like you guys already admitted you all like conspiracy theories. It's like I know that they were saying like these people in Congress who are voting on this. A lot of them had investments in meta. Right. And do I believe that like Mark Zuckerberg could just be paying these people off so he could have the algorithm to tick tock. Probably like he just wants to buy tick to it's, like, beating his ass. So if TikTok is banned, what do you think will happen to the communities that have been built across that platform?

Because I feel like only so much transfers over to, like, Instagram and whatnot. Because that is me. That is my platform is TikTok. I'm fucked. I know. I think it will still exist. It'll just be different. My bills aren't going to be paid the same.

No, no, exactly. This is hell. Yeah, for content creators, it would definitely be a big shock, I think. And you would, I guess, you know, have to maybe move over to Reels. But yeah, what are people over here going to do? Because it's not the same.

Well, that's, okay, more conspiracy. But they also don't like that we're not working in the usual ways. That's true. Because they want to make money off of us. And they can only do that if we're cogs in the machine. And now we're all entrepreneurs on our own. And they don't like that. I agree.

I agree. Also, like, okay, you're a UK creator. So would you still have access to your american audience like i wonder how that's the thing my second biggest audience is the us on my tiktok yeah so it's like and a lot of them don't follow my instagram it's only tiktok so it's like how would i how would they still keep up with me how would i still converse with them? I don't even think about that. Yeah. I follow my Instagram. Do we switch platforms now? Yeah. Yeah. No, either way, I'm screwed. To be honest, I think it's going to get settled before it gets totally shut

down. Because they've been talking about it since the pandemic. You're going to get a lot of people who suddenly care about politics if they shut down TikTok. Yeah. Like you're going to have people being like, take whatever you want away from me. Take my data. But take my TikTok. Hell no. Oh, hell no. So true.

I think that suddenly you'd have some people that are maybe that's a good way to motivate people to vote. You can't get people in the street, but like take their TikTok away and they might. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess we will see. But, you know, just start maybe posting more on Reels.

Just everything else I'm going to have today. All right. To wrap this up, what else has been going on this week? Anything you ladies want to discuss? What should we be watching this week? I mean, you said buying Beverly Hills. Buying Beverly Hills for sure. I'm actually going to start Mama June Family Crisis because I just saw that. She's stealing all

of Honey Boo Boo's money. I really think there's laws under SAG for child actors, but there's nothing for kids who appear on reality shows yet. And Mom needs to be locked up. She's so bad. I think maybe this will be the beginning of

a movement for it because Honey Boo Boo should be a millionaire. Yeah. The fact that she has $30,000. $33,000 in her account and she wants to go to college. That's wild. Do you know what else is good to watch? What's that one that's exposing like Nickelodeon?

Oh, yeah. Quiet on set. Quiet on set. Yeah. Oh, that's what my friend Jenny texted me about that the other night. She said, have you seen Quiet on set? And I'm like, girl, I haven't even seen the season of The Bachelor. No, I have not seen it. We can't watch that in the other night she said have you seen Quiet on set and I'm like girl I haven't even seen the season of The Bachelor

no I have not seen it we can't watch that in the UK but I've been watching it on TikTok and it's absolutely insane wow it's horrible yeah

okay it's a good one to watch okay not really a mood lifter no yeah that is wild about Honey Boo Boo like is she gonna sue her mom

she better I mean from what I understand her mom is just like I spent it all on drugs what are you gonna do about it oh my gosh you put it like that that is so sad it's not like she has it in a bank account somewhere and is hiding it from her daughter she's like no it went up her nose in her veins whatever choice yeah i mean and as you know a mom who has a kid

who's not yet getting paid in the industry like i still have my business manager who set up the account for her that we put money into that's going to acquire money any brand deals or things if she is a part of we'll go straight into that like i remember when my sister was acting she had to have a coogan account yeah and i told brock literally last night there was a brand who reached out to her and it's these wait reached out to summer moon reached out to summer moon's account yes because summer moon tagged them from her account but it's these safe for kids kitchen knives they're the they cut everything but they don't they won't like cut you i've seen her use those they're really good so last night she was cutting the butter for us and

putting the butter in the noodles and she was getting so close to her finger but her finger was totally fine and so I had tagged this brand just something that we actually purchased but I liked it and I wanted other moms to see this is a kid's safe brand and they reached out and said you know would you be interested in exploring a partnership but I'm like absolutely and whatever that is that is a hundred percent her yeah's like, send it to Daryl. But yeah, it's like, I think about things like that, and I just, God, I could not ever imagine stealing money from your kid, using your kid's money to buy drugs. But you're a good mom.

There's a lot of other reality moms who are not going to be doing that. Or those mom influencers. Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. The worst. No, literally. It was fun getting into shenanigans with you all

yeah ladies night yeah ladies night Janet anything to wrap it up with watch the valley it's gonna get crazy I can't wait

it's gonna be a shit show see and for me it's like I'm so used to you know getting the Vanderpump episodes obviously ahead of time the valley I have to wait and watch it live.

I'll trade your legs. East Coast feed. We can't do that. But on the Bravo app, you can get East Coast feed. So I can watch it actually live live. I do that. Yeah. Same.

All right. Well, thanks, ladies. Tell everyone, please, where they can find you on TikTok while you still have it. Guys, if you can be asked, go see GK Barry or Saving Grace. That's what I've got. And follow Kiki at The Talk of Shame. I'm Janet Elizabeth with an X on the end because there's still a Janet Elizabeth that won't give me her name. Thanks for listening and watching, guys.

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