Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Hot Topics: VPR is Back, Whipped Cream Bikinis & All That Jazz

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

This week, Scheana is joined by pop culture experts Kiki Monique & Ryan Bailey for another round of Hot Topics. They tackle the VPR premiere, the Toms’ controversial podcast appearance,... the Kyle & Morgan Wade IG updates, why RHOSLC’s Monica isn’t returning, the Nicki/Megan feud, Britney & Justin’s apologies, and Scheana details her experience at Ariana’s CHICAGO debut. Plus, the panel discusses whether or not LED lights fall under freedom of speech. Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guests: @thetalkofshame @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, February 2nd.   Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Episode Sponsors:FX’s Feud: Capote Vs. The Swans. All new Wednesdays on FX. Stream on Hulu.Before you buy another thing, join Rakuten. Get started at Rakuten.com or get the Rakuten app.Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/honeyProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. It is Vanderpump Rules season 11 premiere week. I am sipping some tea, probably going to spill a bit of it because we are back on the Hot Topics couch with two of your favorite pop culture experts,
Starting point is 00:00:59 Kiki Monique and Ryan Bailey. How we doing? I love to be here. Yeah, thank you. I mean, listen, it feels like it's the it should be the end of the season. I'm exhausted already. This is only one episode in and I'm I'm I'm out like this is wild. I know. I know. I feel like we have a lot to digest this week, so we may as well just jump right in. Yeah. Obviously, the premiere was last night. But before that, I was in New York and I watched Ariana absolutely fucking crush it. Wow. You would not believe this was her first
Starting point is 00:01:39 time on Broadway, that this was her debut performance. Like I could cry. It was so incredible. She hit every single move. She had the comedic timing of a freaking genius. And she's next to this woman who's been on Broadway for over two decades. And it was like they had both been doing this their whole life. Yeah, I have never been so proud of her. She keeps just like surprising me. And it was just, I mean, it was everything I expected because I knew she would be incredible. But seeing it and knowing that that has been her dream since like she was a little girl. Yeah, people forget she's actually a trained actor and that she grew up doing musicals.
Starting point is 00:02:22 She's so good. I mean, I've heard this girl karaoke her ass off that I'm like, oh, I know when you get on that stage, it's going to be incredible. Wait, karaoke's Tom's thing. No, I love that because it reminds me of that LL Cool J saying that Bridget Everett then repeated like, DDHD dreams don't have deadlines
Starting point is 00:02:43 because you actually have no idea that your dream could come through a cheating scandal. Right. Like that's sort of how it all led to that dream. No, it is amazing. It's like turning like this, a horrible thing into something positive. And that's, what's going to be potentially I'm already frustrated with was just the dialogue surrounding that of, Oh, look at that. You know, that's the kind of stuff I'm like, she's out there doing the work yeah you know she's not there unless you correct me is there a monologue during chicago where she talks about the cheating scandal no but what's funny is how have you seen the movie or the show
Starting point is 00:03:15 before i haven't okay so i hadn't so i didn't know anything about it but and i mean not to ruin it but it starts off very early in the show where she kills her lover. And so I was like, you know who she is channeling when she's like, bam. I love that. And then it's about these women who are all like on death row. It's like these six murderesses and it's all about them coming to fame. And then each one who kills someone, then it's like she's the most popular and her names are in the paper. And it's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Oh, this sounds like a Valentine's Day. Like, no, this should be fine. Bring your bring your lover. No, it's really awesome. But that's my whole point is that she's not out there giving monologues about Sandoval. She's out there doing a performance. She's acting like this has nothing to do. No, I mean, people can bring their own, like, you know, thoughts about it.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And it's kind of an LOL in a way, but totally nothing to do. No. I mean, people can bring their own like, you know, thoughts about it and it's kind of an LOL in a way, but like, it's nothing to do. So when you hear him talk about like, oh, she's so bitter, dude. It's like bitter on Broadway. Yeah, I know. He's like, I want her to go do her own thing. Trust me. She is. She's absolutely doing her own thing. She seems like she's doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You should do yours too. Yes. She is living her best life. She is absolutely crushing it. And it was just incredible. I highly recommend anyone. I think she's going to be there through around the end of March to go to New York because it's so worth it. Someone reminded me right before we got in here, though, it was kind of creepy because 2020 and 2024 have these weird overlaps because it's like we have Kansas City and 49ers going to the Super Bowl, which happened in 2020. We have Trump and Biden most likely running for president. And someone said, we also had a housewife who was starring in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Erica James. Yes. And I was like, okay, if a pandemic comes, I will literally lose my mind. Oh, hell no. Oh, my gosh. Let's scrub that from the show entirely. That really just scared me. But in fact, I do actually know what I would do.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I would watch more TV and read more books. I'm ready for another one. Yeah. Yeah. But it was so much fun. We did a mom daughter trip. It was so unfortunate. Last minute, Lala's mom wasn't able to come because Ocean woke up with this gnarly cough and they were like, we can't both leave the baby. She had to be in the ball pit. Yeah. Right. She had to be there for Watch What Happens Live. So she didn't have a choice yeah and one of our other friends one of ariana's best friends from college meredith with her mom and it was just so much fun ariana's mom was there and just to get to be there with so many people who love her and support her we all went out after this gay bar called boxers and it was the best time i'm still trying to catch up i love that yeah i was shocked
Starting point is 00:05:46 we were recording i was like aren't you in new york so i was shocked we were doing this yeah and also so much this week and i also thought it was great this broadway thing was happening on the week of right because it kind of almost takes away of like from any potential negativity for some of you guys going into a new season just hearing all the voices no you're sick you're still taking it on the chin yeah yeah but i kind of feel like you know if i ever win a poll on watch what happens live it's rigged because you know even when i'm on it i lose every really you think that they just vote for the person who's on i'm like no even when i'm there i'm still the two percent okay let's let's vote for sheena 2024 we'll find out whatever those bots that the housewives fans yeah still like you know attack their well i'll be on watch what happens live next week so we'll
Starting point is 00:06:34 see what fun games and polls they have do you know who you're going on with yeah ryan from million dollar listing okay nice yeah so that'll be fun. All right. So that's after Vanderpump next week then, I imagine. And also the band I do music with, the 27s, they get introduced in episode two. They actually just released a clip today of me in the studio with them. Okay. And they're going to be bartending. Oh, fun. So I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Okay. Move over Ariana Grande. Let's go. All right. Let's get into it. V.P.R. is back. So's get into it. VPR is back. So how did you guys feel about this week's episode? Are you excited for season 11?
Starting point is 00:07:11 What are your predictions? Anything that surprised you? Give me it all. I mean, I've watched this episode because we watch it at the premiere party, which Ryan, you didn't go to. I didn't go to. And at the end of it, I was like, I can't talk about it. But I did sort of tease my subscribers.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I was like, I think Lala might be the villain this season. Let me know what you think when you watch. And I don't know. I feel like based on sort of what people are seeing online. I want to know why you think that. Well, I just think that they saw her come so hard for Raquel, Rachel. And I think when they saw her soften up and send the message, they were like, why?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Wait, why did you do that? Oh, look, I get it. I get why you would do that. First of all, I mean, we want you to come back. And I think she, look, Lala is sensitive. Like she has, like she reminds me of me and like you have this really like hard exterior, but you have empathy inside.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And she's, when she said like, I don't want her to wear this for the rest of her life makes total sense yeah and and the fact is she actually said when i used to be called homewrecking whore this and that well basically they were kind of right like that's a really brave talking head that she gave but we all think about like like we're producers of the show now so a lot of people are like nope she's trying to get a storyline nope that's a storyline to bring her back in. And, you know, I think if I'm not mistaken, you guys all thought there was a possibility at that point she was coming back in some way.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I mean, yeah. Because they don't share that with you, right? There's no reason why anyone shouldn't come back. Obviously her mental health, you know what I'm saying? When we're an ensemble cast and something happens, the fans and also us as the cast, you know, it's like we want answers. We want those stories to finish. We want to have those conversations as tough as they may be. We may never be friends again. But I felt like at the time, Raquel and I still definitely had some
Starting point is 00:08:56 things we needed to say to each other. I felt like Lala really wanted an apology from her. She owed Ariana the biggest one. I'm sureisa had things to say to her about just how she you know did everything and left sir and whatnot you know how lisa is with the people who work at sir and so i do think though based on i hear i will take back what i said about her podcast i have actually been listening to all of her podcasts and there have been little tidbits that have come out and i will say the 90 days she spent i do think she learned enough where if she had come right back to film she would have not learned that and i don't think that the season would have carried like the way maybe we wanted it to i think with the learning she had she would actually hold tom
Starting point is 00:09:39 more accountable and i don't think she would have done that if she had just come right back to film that makes sense you know i listened to her podcast at like two times the speed just to you know I do too and by the way it's still kind of a normal pace at two times the speed I'm like okay I don't know why people are complaining I'm like this is normal but having said all of that there are little tidbits like you're right like but it would have been so much more powerful and you're right about like it might not have been the right moment that's why I leave it open for potentially a season 12 comeback but for her to say like Schwartz knew after the first night that her and sandoval hooked up that would have been so much powerful of rachel saying that to schwartz's face to actually remind people
Starting point is 00:10:13 that schwartz was a part of this yeah three of them were a unit almost throwing people off at your wedding having that little kiss and it wasn't just happening to ariana it happened to katie as well so he's like i'm not tom sandoval people got to remember but like you played a part in this as well yeah completely even though you're like super fun nice guy really funny i just think the rachel of it all is just it's like this missed opportunity i understand from a mental health standpoint but you just wish that she would have been that voice to potentially even hold them accountable in ways that they need to be held accountable. I think it was just a couple of days she needed to come back for a couple of conversations.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I don't think she should have come back full time. That could set you back. Like, I mean, you know, you've gone through mental health struggles. I go through mental health struggles. If I'm the right wrong day at the wrong time, like you go, your mind goes really, really dark really quickly. And I do applaud her, but I'm still just so confused about that. Cause I was like, Lala, like go off and live your life. Go be a normal person then.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But the jumping into the podcast, I don't even know if she's strong enough for that sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, cause like she is, you know, again, like we can listen to, you know, the interviews that Sandoval does now and we can listen to her on her podcast and we can say, we can hear how he gaslights her and we can hear the lies that are coming out.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Would that have happened in this season? I don't know. Cause I don't know how it had been edited. I don't know. That's what I said. They need somebody has time. Not me has to do a super cut of Vanderpump rules, season 11 and intersperse her podcast,
Starting point is 00:11:39 your podcast, the Tom's podcast, intersperse it and do like each episode of like a 360 view of actually what's happening yeah right because by the way the podcast now have become like this additional materials that actually give a fuller picture to the actual whole story or in lala's case sometimes for amazon lives i'm like there's so many i'm like do i need to go shopping on this well but it's so comedic in a really dark way that last scene with lala like ariana sometimes i feel like you don't let me in and like take me in and all of this stuff and i was like no totally and then
Starting point is 00:12:10 she's like but by the way i did reach out to red i'm like and katie's face with that fry she's like i mean what was that like sitting there watch because it's just such a beautiful moment and she's like well cool i'm glad you trust me again i did reach out to rachel i know i mean it was perfect timing for watching you know the show and just the entertainment aspect of it because you weren't expecting that in that moment so you were just like oh plot twist but um yeah and also mariana probably wasn't expecting in that moment i've been like oh yeah i'm filming again yeah that must have been like yeah it's not all wine wine and roses yeah i mean i don't think it's far-fetched that someone during the season of filming was going to reach out to her to try to get her to come back and have some conversations you know did we expect it to be lala no probably more like lisa maybe
Starting point is 00:12:58 even schwartz but definitely none of us women so i think that was what was such the most like shocking part of it was that it was lala but is in the same breath as sisterhood like we're a sister to the traveling pants the four of us let's do this and then like hey speaking of that and i understand why lala did it i understand also that moves the story along i just thought it was just a kind of a comedic moment yeah i was surprised she also left a voice memo too because i was like if i was going to reach out to raquel like how, how would I have done it? Would it have just been like a simple text? But I guess voice memo is like the easiest way to kind of get your point across.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And also, are we going to hear that voice memo on Rachel's podcast? Like, I was like, also, what is it? And also, I said this yesterday, but come on, no more Tom Tom Alleyway. It should be the Sir Alleyway or no. That Tom Tom Alleyway looks like a power plant of some sort. It looks very cold and uninviting and the sir alleyway is much better yeah what were your favorite parts of the episode oh god i mean my my comedic favorite moment was the summer moon beef obviously like how do you block
Starting point is 00:13:55 because it just that's what i love about the show is your imagination kind of runs wild of those conversations of like tom like you know what you did summer moon you know it dude i'm sorry your parents have toxically brainwashed you and i would have loved to have like i don't know that's how i watched that show so that was hysterical to me yeah it's those little moments the penis flute having ann oh yeah text messages yeah talk about your shitty part-time jobs like i like oh my boss asked me to glue together a penis flute today like that's got to be a bad day for ann you know totally yeah i mean seeing the text messages she has to deal with like freedom of speech to like let the leave the lights on like i don't mean i'm just like i can't i could never i know i did like the meme that you made the beef i saw some
Starting point is 00:14:40 people talking shit how dare you bring a kid into this? I'm like, what a show. Are we all watching the same show? The kid is in it. She's on the show. I mean, that's it. I guess already that's what I'm talking about in terms of exhaustion. I was recording my two-hour line-by-line recap, and I would take breaks to rest my voice, and I would go on Facebook, and it's just you all of a sudden see like, why is Ariana dancing on a table at TomTom?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Look at her. I can't believe her. Disgusting. Or like, of course Sheena would do this. And that's the stuff that gets tiring because you're like, man, we have a real storyline here. And I will say in terms of the Nick Viale podcast,
Starting point is 00:15:15 that's what was a bummer about Sandoval going on. Viale? I'm joking. I call it the Viale Fiales. But Tom going on that and being as angry as he was, it's almost like a spoiler alert for the whole season. Because my secret hope was that we actually do see Tom grow and change and have some sort of recognition.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And to me, it was like, spoiler alert, he didn't. Yeah, that was a hot mess. What was your favorite moment watching it back? I mean, the summer stuff, obviously. It was so funny. Just seeing her spell her name and that that was the first scene we were in. Oh, she looks right down the shot
Starting point is 00:15:52 of the camera. Oh, yeah. There were so many times when they're there and I'm like putting her down for her nap or something. She goes, ooh, one, two, two cameras. And it was like, I'm like, please break the fourth wall with summer this season. Wait, did she have a good side?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Does she know her good side yet? She has all good sides. Yes. But she knows when you're in a photo with mama, you're on my right. Right hip only, which is more dominant for me anyway. So it works out perfectly. But I do want to get into the TomTom recent podcast that I didn't bleed my ears out to listen to. Thank you for doing that for me. But before we do, we're going to take a little break. This episode is supported by FX's feud,
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Starting point is 00:17:26 And using those principles, you can solve absolutely any parenting challenge, giving you the confidence to raise good humans. Order now and give yourself a little bit of ease. So, Tom and Tom appeared together on a former four-time Bachelor or Bachelorette contestants podcast recently. And I know it was rough just based off the TikToks that I saw and the recaps that I read. There was no way I heard it was like two and a half hours. Yeah. So long. I don't have time for that. I'm a couple episodes of Housewives behind. So that gets my attention for the podcast that gives me the ick. And also, if you're watching, you can get my new merch at shop.dearmedia.com. You're giving me the ick. It also goes in my new song, Boy Crazy. It's a line in the song. But you know, in some people, they just put the ick in their
Starting point is 00:18:18 name. So takeaways from the podcast. Yeah. I mean, Sandoval has clearly he has learned nothing. He's definitely not sober again. I mean, I don't know how long he was going to be sober, but like clearly he shows up months, right? He did eight months. The first time that I found out he was drinking again was at the Creative Arts Emmys. I looked at him and I knew he wasn't sober. And I think he had just started drinking again that week.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I think maybe on their trip to Japan, Kyle or Schwartz mentioned. So it is more recent, but I think he doesn't know how to put it back under control because it's like you go eight and a half months without drinking and then boom, I'm drunk. It's like, wow, that's something. I mean, I know just from having a baby and breastfeeding to go that long without drinking the first time you do. It's like, oh, and then I felt all sorts of guilt. And I'm like, I don't even have a drinking problem. But just after you go that long, there is a guilt layer on top of it. Well, I mean, it was just a mess from start to finish.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I, you know, just doing a podcast and Kiki does a podcast as well, is that, you know, the amount that they left in, they left the 40 minutes in that he was late for it. So it was like this scrambling and Schwartz all of a sudden being interviewed and like, oh, I'm not defending Tom, but I'm not a Tom defender, but. And that was interesting to leave that in because you felt like, oh man. And then Tom gets there and it's an even bigger mess.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And then they argue for 15 minutes about, Sandoval's like, well, you were late to my podcast, dude. So now we're arguing about time and podcasts and then we get into santa ball's like well you relate to my podcast dude so now we're arguing about time and podcasts and then we get into it and he's like i love ariana but and then you just sense that he is just as angry if not angrier than he was you know in this last seven months and that it was kind of it was a bummer to see and that was like the thing and nick did say this he's like i want you to actually be happy i do want to you you know i do know you you're you have good sides and stuff and i think at the end of the day putting all that aside like i actually want tom to be good and okay but that
Starting point is 00:20:15 that's not the look i don't think that's not it at all and you seem like you're whatever therapy you're going to and all that there still seems to be this inner rage and it's being directed now directly at ariana instead of his own behavior and actions yeah and everyone who wants to go and think that tom and i are just besties again because we're seen you know at the same event or you know god forbid i was having a conversation with captain jason which we've addressed multiple times after bravo con but i just want to remind people, and I was even saying this to Dana on the flight home yesterday. I said, what I don't think a lot of people realize is also there were two conversations
Starting point is 00:20:51 I had in Sandoval's room at BravoCon. One was with Captain Jason about his children's charity. The next one was with Tom. And I was telling him to shut the fuck up and stop talking about Ariana. Every conversation I've had
Starting point is 00:21:03 with Tom Sandoval since filming has wrapped has been stop talking about Ariana. Every conversation I've had with Tom Sandoval since filming has wrapped has been in defense of Ariana. Literally, I have said to him so many times, Tom, nobody gives a fuck if she hasn't paid her mortgage in eight months. Nobody gives a fuck about A, B, C, and D that you want to go and complain about. Be like, well, she did this. She didn't do this. We didn't have sex for a year nobody fucking cares stop stop i don't want to hear it nobody wants to hear it and then what does he do he goes and does it again two t's in a pod fucking former bachelor it's just like every time he talks he makes it kind of worse or he
Starting point is 00:21:36 reopens the wound probably for all of you guys but also the audience because there's no like at some point i was also thinking like is tom gonna be able to laugh at himself at any point like of like oh yeah man that penis flew with crazy dude like are we gonna get like i and he's just not even close to there yet and that just kind of it put so many people back into like oh i remember why i'm mad at that dude yeah like i saw that all yesterday like oh man it was fine but then i i listened to that podcast or saw a tiktok clip and i'm mad all over again but i almost like think like and this is part of why he needs therapy I think that he has like this self-deprecating sort of sense and I think he wants to put himself further in this villain role further into like I think he like he went on um special forces and the first thing he says is like
Starting point is 00:22:19 I want to punish myself and I think like just subconsciously he wants to continue to punish myself. And I think like just subconsciously, he wants to continue to punish himself. And he knows by being the villain and always saying these things about Ariana, it's going to force us to sort of rise up, be angry. And I think he's almost thriving in this space of like, well, do you think he thinks like, I don't know if thriving is the word,
Starting point is 00:22:39 but like I did question yesterday. I was like, is this a whole bit? Like, did they plan this out? Because, you know, and then I listened to it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I was like, nah, this seems too real. But I was like, is this a whole bit? Like, did they plan this out? Because, you know, and then I listened to it. I was like, nah, this seems too real. But I was like, this is wild. But to let yourself do that and to let yourself go that kind of unhinged in a long form show, like it just whoever's advising him, it doesn't I don't I just don't think he doesn't listen. He doesn't listen to anybody. I'm like, we used to share a manager. And after all this, I was like, I can no longer share any sort of team with you. I was like, I don't want to be associated with anyone who works with Tom Sandoval. Obviously, we have to film a television show together. That is different. But I was like, I can't have the same person representing me who represents you. And it's just like, because also it's so infuriating that I'm like, you don't even listen to your manager. You don't listen to your publicist. You don't listen to your friends. You probably don't listen to your mom.
Starting point is 00:23:25 You certainly don't listen to me after what I said to you at BravoCon. So like, who's also allowing him to go on these podcasts? And you're showing up late on top of it all. But he's never listened. I mean, like, back to like when him and Lisa, they were building out TomTom. He didn't want to listen to Lisa. He has never listened. We're only now seeing it like amplified because like now it's like so negative. Well, the other thing too, I thought about this was, you know, when I would talk to Ariana in the past, she would say, you know, one of the great things about that made them work is that she knew what he was trying to say is that he's not a really good communicator. He's passionate. He's all these things, but he's not good at actually saying how he's feeling in the right way. So Ariana would be able to be kind of a sandoval whisperer and jump in there and be able to like, and she like, you know, he'd get nervous at reunions
Starting point is 00:24:07 or watch what happens live and he was able to do that. And now you have Schwartz filling in that role and Schwartz kind of stumbles a lot too over, you know, the Schwartziness. If Schwartz is your translator, then you've got problems.
Starting point is 00:24:18 No, literally, like from the TikToks and recaps, I did take a few notes and one of them, when you said, is it a bit? I'm like, this whole showing up late thing, pretending like, oh, I didn't know. But then it was like, you did know.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And you're like, well, I'm late because you were late. Like, is that a bit? Well, the one thing, though, then, you know, having listened to the whole two and a half hours of it is, you know, he did bring up that he was crying about his friend Ali, which was brought up on the season premiere. And that's something like, you know, to me me that kind of stuff is hands off and we've all lost somebody and gone through grief and I know how that hits you at weird times so like my heart
Starting point is 00:24:51 always goes out to that kind of stuff but it it just it I'm just trying to make sense of all of this I mean let's be real he clearly slept in because he was probably out all night he probably was up until god knows what hour he looked tired yeah he looked tired and then he's like probably still half you know drunk or whatever wakes up and he's like feeling like a super you know human he's like i don't know i'm just gonna do this podcast because like why not and he just like he just like there's like a boogie nights element mark mark walberg's character in boogie nights you know when it's just like he's like a hot thing you know and it's just the overconfidence, the cockiness. And, you know, there's like a deep well of maybe even internal hatred that he has going on right now for himself.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But he can't really admit. I mean, I don't know. That's the hard thing. And to see like Ariana thrive. And I know she's like you even had a line last night, you know, talking about I don't even know if she has processed this grief and trauma, because how could you in this short amount of time? Yeah. But Tom definitely hasn't. And if he's just going to get madder and madder,
Starting point is 00:25:48 like I fear for him this season. And the darkest part of that whole thing for me was when he offhanded said, I had Kyle come and pick up my guns. You had guns there? Like you had guns on premises? Like that was wild. If you're the bit part,
Starting point is 00:26:02 here's what I think the bit part of it is to me is like, I think he thinks he's a rock star. And what I think the bit part of it is to me is like, I think he thinks he's a rock star. And so I think he is kind of living that rock star life. And by that, I mean, not just on stage, like he's just kind of like going through life and he's just like, I don't know. I just say and do whatever I want. And who cares?
Starting point is 00:26:15 And like, I don't listen. And like, you know, like, I just think he's trying to live a rock star life right now. And it's at his detriment. Well, it's like Shep said at the Southern Charmer Union, though, he was trying to apologize to everybody. And Craig was like, yo, of course, I miss the old days, of course. But we're getting older. We have to choose our battles. We have to actually try to make decisions that's going to set us up long term. And I think he's kind of at that reckoning. And if anything, like, you know, Schwartz said on that, like, you know, Ariana and him were twin flames. She probably was a grounding force in his life. Who is a grounding
Starting point is 00:26:45 force in his life right now? Besides Kyle Chan. That's what I was going to say. He has Kyle Chan and Kyle Chan is never just team Tom. Kyle sees all sides. Kyle gives him the best advice. Kyle is one of the kindest, most intelligent humans I've ever met. Like literally the conversations I have with him where he's just reminding me to not let the haters get to me and just reminding me what a good person I am. And like the pep talks I get from this man, I'm like, you are an incredible human. Why the fuck doesn't Tom Sandoval listen to you? Like he makes me feel better in a second. I just don't get why Tom just wants to keep
Starting point is 00:27:24 self-destructing. Like, come on, bro. Let's grow. Let's show up to the season 11 reunion and show some motherfucking growth. Yeah, that would be nice. How do you think the interview would have gone without Schwartz? Because I feel like Schwartz is like the best publicist that Tom
Starting point is 00:27:39 never even hired. I don't. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I think it would have been even more on hinge because i do the varsity blues line oh my god he's like oh rachel showed up it's like whipped cream bikini like in varsity basically saying she was like this temptress he's he's saying you know because ariana wasn't having sex with me and raquel was this temptress like the whipped cream bikini and varsity blues i couldn't i couldn't you know my emotions got the best he basically said what a peek inside the male mind of that is a the varsity blues bikini right scene is at the ready in his mind of like that was potentially going he's like this is
Starting point is 00:28:14 like varsity i had to look it up and i was like oh ali london i was like i forgot no i remember the scene but it's like it's not present in my mind like it was with tom and i just what a window into during that time and also he did say and they short sit down and watch what happens live he was like kind of like it was like a drug and obviously but that's the thing is that all three of them and especially the two of them rachel and tom there was like a whole hidden relationship that was very very deep and i don't know if he's realized now that wasn't love but he thought it was because a nine-year relationship it's not all just like kisses and
Starting point is 00:28:45 romance you have to commit it's not fun sometimes yeah yeah and so i do feel like schwartz and like they would kept trying to bring him back to like you know like you can't say that right you know what you sound like when you say that so i was actually happy that the two of them were like at least calling that out like you were saying this right now and this is how the audience is hearing that so are you aware of it? And then he'd be like, oh, okay. But he hates us though. Like that's what, like when the audio,
Starting point is 00:29:10 like F the audience. That's what I always feel now because he feels like he has been wronged by us. Yeah. What are your thoughts on the two of them still under the same roof? Obviously Ariana is living, you know, in New York right now
Starting point is 00:29:22 and she stayed somewhere else during Dancing with the Stars. But what are your thoughts on that for at least the season when we were filming i mean her answer i mean she did like a you know or was it after show that she her answer after show where she just said like you know like i am setting myself up for a good future and i'm not going to just like move out just because everyone thinks it's the right thing you know like i want to get everything all of my ducks in a row. And if I have to live in an uncomfortable place for a few months,
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm fine with that if it means my future is going to be better. Sandoval sees it as like, she feels safe with me because if she really didn't feel safe with me, there's no way she would stay in this house with me. He's like, she knows I'm not like a serial killer, da-da-da, which it was like, yeah, she does, but like, you also are robbing her of the actual pain you caused her. He actually said like, she still
Starting point is 00:30:10 trusts, she must still trust me in some ways, and I'm like, she absolutely does not trust a thing about you. I guarantee you there's a lock on the door wherever she stays. Ariana is living in a bunker, like she's got clothes everywhere, like she's got like cereal bowls in there, like you can see how she is living.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And then Tom is living in like the single man bedroom with just like a sheet covering the bed and a water bottle. And it's, I mean, it's, it's also another thing that's kind of a LOL a little bit in terms of the show that they have to share such a, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:37 he's putting out a wind machine or a noise machine and the white noise machine in the hallway. That stuff is a little LOL, but yeah, overall it's a bad little lol but yeah overall it's a bad situation but yeah ariana's not there tons i know she's been back and living her life yeah yeah i think i was the one too who told her that kyle chan took the guns out of the house because i don't think this was a oh i feel safe staying here i think that she hadn't even really
Starting point is 00:31:00 thought about the guns and when i told her i was like i just want you to know kyle called me today and told me tom was not in a good place and so he removed the guns and she was just like i i don't know if they were kept in her room or whatever and i was like oh so he came in with that and i was like she's like but good they're gone good to know yeah yeah i think a lot of people are forgetting too is that this took place three months at like you started filming three months after the reunion right so at that point you know for us we're catching up to it now and so when ariana says something i'm like no they aren't partying here they aren't this you got to remember that is still a lot fresher for her than it is for us as an audience and i don't think some people understand that yeah i feel like you know there's that saying if you break it you buy it i feel like in this case it's like if
Starting point is 00:31:45 you break your home you don't get to buy it you should move the fuck out of it like why are you being so stubborn i get it it was both of y'all's dream homes however that was a dream that you were building together exactly now that you're no longer together get the fuck out well his excuse that he went in at nauseam on the podcast was well when my my mom and my my dad broke up you know my mom kept the house and then when my stepmom like he went on this whole thing about like and when her mom and her stepdad broke up then her mom kept the house like he went on him how all these people in their life one of the person kept the house. Like he went on him, how all these people in their life, one of the person kept the house. And because of that, that was the precedent. And that's why it's one of them should be able to keep the house. And I'm just like, that is not just let it go, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. I mean, you're not going to win on technicalities at this point. And I just think he really is like he considers physical pain, but he doesn't consider emotional pain. He's not really taking into account of like, yeah, man, you know, and anybody out there that has had anything like this happen or any kind of trauma realizes emotional pain he's not really taking into account of like yeah man you know and anybody out there that has had anything like this happen or any kind of trauma realizes emotional pain is so much more damaging than sometimes immediate physical pain yeah but my theory is like my my hope is like they just move into that shitty apartment he used to own him and schwarz bring
Starting point is 00:32:58 the plants bring the little lizards and the insects and just move in there with the shitty ac but yeah because if you think i'm going to be okay because i'm still going to be scrolling the insects and just move in there with the shitty AC. But yeah, because if you think I'm going to be OK, because I'm still going to be scrolling the feed and seeing people posting. And if I see someone posting from a pool party from the pool that I used to own that you're still living in and you think I'm going to be. No, absolutely. Nobody's going to be posting from that pool. None of us.
Starting point is 00:33:17 We're all going to post from different out there would think otherwise. Who are listening right now would be like, no, I'd be totally cool with it. No, right. And also, I think there's is there any kind of play in the fact that i think he's also just upset that he can't be friends with ariana oh that she's not willing to like relent and do like even a solo everyone i think just like friends with i think he's just mad like i'm gonna show that this happened we can't he's always been the guy that's been the friend everyone's been sandoval's friend and he does not know how to manage this right now because he's always been the guy that's been the friend. Everyone's been Sandoval's friend. And he does not know how to manage this right now because he's always been the friend to everybody.
Starting point is 00:33:49 He doesn't know how to handle it. Well, I just, listen, the main thing, I just want to see if you kiss Schwartz. That's the whole thing. Just kind of throw that in there. Keep watching. On that note, we're going to take one more quick little break. Am I getting kicked out? All right, y'all.
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Starting point is 00:37:12 Were they ever romantically together? Are they in a friend fight? Is Kyle maybe reconciling with Mauricio? What's your theory? I think they're more in love than ever. So what's your theory? I think they're more in love than ever. I think that they are going to one day buy a little home in the mountains
Starting point is 00:37:28 and live on their farm. Like Kyle talked about this season. It's her dream. I know. I can't wait for Kyle to get that dream. A big enough farm to house all of her hat. Once Portia is old enough, I want to see that on a show.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Kyle, get your own show. As we know, she can carry her own show. Wait, Richard's on a ranch. Yeah, that would be amazing. And there's a whole barn for her hat collection yeah um yeah i mean i think if anything you know for music artists too you know a lot of them will just scrub their instagram entirely when they're about to release stuff so there's a two posts on morgan about her tour and her album so i'm like that to me didn't send off any red flags and then i think kyle said today or something she might have archived a couple but i don't think it's as deep as everybody wants it to be but i think just
Starting point is 00:38:08 because we're left in this mystery right we want information and we want like we were like i need a kiss come on i need something and i don't think that's going to happen this season or at the reunion well the reunion happened already i don't think that happened i think we got the kathy hilton surprise and i just crystal Minkoff's on my show, I think on Friday. And, you know, I can't, Bravo's on, so I can't get information out of her. But I think it's even a mystery to everybody
Starting point is 00:38:32 of what that relationship means. And it obviously means a great deal to both of them. Right. No, totally. But there is always that, you know, building hype around when something else is going to release. So if she has new music coming out, it's like, what a perfect way to get people to talk. Well, I mean, speaking from your experience with
Starting point is 00:38:47 like, you know, your, you know, band and all this music, do you sit there and just be honest with the calendar and go, what could I do to get attention for this song? This is the release. Could two days before, could I say, or hint that I did something? What do, have you done that? I'll just say, I do have a song coming out March 1st. And do you have a release plan? Are you going to scrub? Are you going to scrub your Instagram of Brock? Scrub Subber Moon.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Block Subber Moon. If you block Subber Moon. By the way, what if Subber Moon is the main villain for the whole cast? Subber Moon pulling the strings the entire time. Oh my God. But do you think like that? Because in this day and age, you realize the power of clicks,
Starting point is 00:39:28 us talking, people making tick tocks. I personally don't. Sometimes other people will for me, but my brain doesn't really work that way. When I saw that March 1st happens to also be a Friday, it's the best day to release music is on Fridays. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, got the perfect song to come out that day. What's the song called? It's called sweet and sour. Hi. It's my favorite dipping song. Did you guys watch, watch what happens last night with Lala?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. Do you think Lisa Vanderpump called her today and said, darling, how dare you say I'm not the queen. Kyle Richards has nothing on me, darling. Yeah. I only got to watch half of it. Oh, so I watched her today and said, darling, how dare you say I'm not the queen? Kyle Riches has nothing on me, darling. Yeah. I only get to watch half of it. Oh, so I watched that part and then Michael Rappaport and her, like who, who is like the
Starting point is 00:40:12 queen of Beverly Hills. And they all, they said, Kyle, hands down. But then Lala was like, but I love Lisa, but I love Lisa. Oh, wow. You know, I mean, that's, that's the great thing about Lala too, is because it's, you know, I don't, I don't sometimes know if that's her actual feelings or she really just does know how to, like, poke the bear. Like, every, because you would have to imagine Lisa is competitive. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 You know, and she's obviously super successful at her businesses. But that is something that I would imagine Lisa would be a little kind of, uh. I mean, she definitely made a comment to me about my post with Kyle. I'll say that so i can't imagine lala's not gonna get a phone call oh yeah lisa if you're listening just come back to beverly hills just come back and show them who the real queen is of beverly hills come on just do it for real i mean i feel like all the fans want to see it they do i just don't i can't see her coming back i can never see her coming back no way i feel like she is just like yeah you know
Starting point is 00:41:04 way past that now. And she's got that other Hulu show coming out. And yeah, I mean a lot of projects. I just think I would love to actually see that. And also it doesn't have to be negative. Lisa Vanderpump spoke, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:14 not, you know, about Kyle and Mauricio. She said, you know, very caring comments regarding Kyle. So it doesn't have to be negative. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Come back, make up. Yeah. No. Anyway, Monica thoughts on her not returning because i know that was announced that for next season after you know they learned she was behind the whole reality von t's account that she would not be coming back do you think that bravo
Starting point is 00:41:40 made the right decision putting her on pause or cutting her out? And also, do you think it's because she threw production under the bus and said, well, they knew they knew. And Andy was like, shook. I don't think that they had any other choice. Like they could not like set this as a precedent because there is a faction of the fan base that would take advantage of that. And then I think it would be become like unhinged they have to say like we have to cut it off so okay i have a little beef with monica right now i like you know i've been trying to like get her to come on my show i'm like hosting reality check and on sirius xm channel 102 and i was like okay can you please call in please and she's like in
Starting point is 00:42:21 the dms yes yes yes yes yes girl why was I on the way here in the parking garage? And Dorinda was hosting today. And she was like, I have a special guest. Monica called in. Oh, hell no. So Monica's on my shit list right now. But, you know, she was saying like they were because, you know, of course, Dorinda, the original pause queen. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It was like they were having this whole conversation because Monica's's like you know they're calling it a cooling off and i see it as a cooling off because i think that people just need to cool off like from all of it so i don't i think that she sees this really like as like a temporary thing if she plays her cards right but at the you know like i had kate arthur from variety on last week on the show and she did a great making the scene where she interviewed andy shed media and uh heather gay and it provided so much more context of the story because out of the reunion i was like no man like bring her back let's see how she actually deals with it's kind of like sandoval in a sense right or even if rachel like came and she's like how do you deal with this much mudslide and you know
Starting point is 00:43:18 hearing those interviews you kind of got a fuller picture and also you find out that she was posting on reality von Montees during filming the season. And for me, that's actually a real strong line of like, wait, you were actually posting about these women while you were filming. Cause in my head, what I wanted it to be was she started this silly account. She got Jen Shaw. She hated Jen Shaw, but then she didn't think she was going to be on the show. She got on the show and then got, okay,
Starting point is 00:43:43 I got to put this account to bed because I actually really want to be on this show and really see where it leads but if she really was posting that whole time it means she was and if you can put her sending those dms to meredith about angie katsunavis that's another dark thing because then you have somebody actively trying to take people down but was it her or the five other people that's what right but see that was her out it was like well it's not just me but that's why i want like some kind of bravo and bravo id discovery show of like breaking down the whole season's a mystery and it's still a mystery in a lot of ways so we're gonna pick up in a new season and i'm still gonna be wondering what's going on but monica did have two months to prepare for that reunion and she did not come in as strong as she could have she checked out at one
Starting point is 00:44:25 point heather like i know he gave her an opportunity to talk and she literally just said no if she had if she hadn't flopped in that like third part i do think that would have been chance but yeah that the burn book was a flop like and heather was a more effective communicator with her story and you will not like i still to this day believe heather i don't believe production new but i believe heather planned that call she left the mic pack on and she even talks about in the interview. She's like, usually I take it off, but there was an hour and a half break and I was just so tired. I did.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So the mic pack she knew was on. She took that call knowing she was mic'd up. And Sheena, do you know when you're mic'd up in Vanderpump Rules? Yes, 100%. You're literally wearing it on your body. Yeah. So you're very aware of that. I just think Heather is one of the smarter housewives out there right now.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And I will, by the way, that's her prerogative to do that because she actually had real beef to talk about. But it's fascinating because then she had to pitch it to the producers because they didn't know what reality Von Teese was. They were like, does anybody care about reality? Like, we don't even know that that is. But that to me, that's the thing that's funny is the reason Heather is one of the smarter housewives out there is because she was the biggest fan and that to me is like the whole like you're trying to bury monica for being this like crazed fan which i will say she took it over the edge sometime
Starting point is 00:45:35 but at the end of the day you were the biggest fan and you know how to play this game and you just did it better than her yeah yeah i mean she exactly that's what like heather is just so much better at it, and she knows how it plays. And, you know, she took a little brunt for it. Like, I don't think it was all positive reviews for Heather, but she's there next season, and Monica isn't. Speaking of Heather,
Starting point is 00:45:55 I know obviously Andy wasn't happy with her because she had made some past comments suggesting production was covering up the black eye, even suggested production gave her the black eye and whatnot. Do you think she should be in as hot of water as Monica? I think that like she should have been taken to task a bit more because like that's pretty egregious. Like you knew this whole time that production had nothing to do with your black eye, but you were still like throwing that out there and not even, you were throwing it out there
Starting point is 00:46:27 on these live like touring events to people that were just like recording it and could have just kind of posted it. And that's like really dangerous because like that producer could have lost, you know, at least been under investigation. I feel like anytime you have anything on your HR file, it's just not a good look.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Well, yeah, I mean, if they had that internal investigation, you're also like throwing like, wow, they didn't do a good job investigating and you just wonder how far that is and especially in bravo in the year 2024 they got so many fires that they're like having it like everything you don't want to add to that but then it comes down to monica being a liar and heather being a liar but we all believe heather a lot more in the story she tells but that's a dark thing to keep for a year and the jen shav it all i am still inside like it's such a mystery for me what she has over these women that they all are still deathly afraid and if we're to believe heather's story you know heather says well
Starting point is 00:47:17 now i'm like a phoenix rising from the ashes i'm so much more confident now and i know myself but i always thought heather did know herself he Heather was also producing even last season when she said, hey, Jen, if you want them to get off talking about you, throw it my way and say this about me. Like she knows the game. You know what I think? I mean, this is just a theory I've just been like in my head tossing around lately is like, what does Jen Shaw have over? And I always think back to that reunion where they were asking Jen what she does. And Heather goes, I don't know what she does, but I like it because she was talking about how Jen like, and I think they see what's happening with Erika Jayne, right? And
Starting point is 00:47:50 like, I just think that they're like, if we were part of something where we were spending money that was being stolen and getting parties, even if we didn't know, we don't want to be dragged into it and we just want to keep her on her nice side because she's in jail. Let's just keep the girl in jail happy and like, let's not be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Cause like, I don't know, like maybe they were living the high life on like, you know, and they didn't know it. But again, like when you see what's happening with Erica and John Girardi, it's like, you just don't want to be involved in it. You don't want people, you don't want the IRS involved in any way, shape or form in your life. But they start filming this weekend and it's going to be really interesting to see if all of those ladies try way too hard to show that, like, we don't need Monica.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Like, so you already hear of, like, three fights this weekend. Right. Because they're like, no, we got to prove to everybody we're amazing. And I don't even know these two new girls, Brittany and Millie? Yeah, they still haven't gotten
Starting point is 00:48:39 one of the names actually right. Oh, okay. Yeah, like, no, I'm all down for new people. I just think like are you truly going to be out from under the shadow of jen and monica or is it going to be a season of just like you guys already talking about rachel and vanderpump is it going to be kind of the thing that is like lording over like the the thing in the back that we can't really talk about right yeah i guess we shall see so last time i had you both here, you weren't convinced that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift was the real deal.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And I have to ask now, we're going to the Super Bowl. Have opinions changed? Look, I still have not been on the Travis and Taylor train. And people, I literally had some of the meanest DMs said to me about it. They were like, you're such a hater. Love will always win. And I'm like, you just hate love.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And I'm like, I don't hate love. Worry about your own love, yeah. Here's what I will say. I decided I'm going to go to Kansas City for the Super Bowl because I actually want to be with the fans for the Super Bowl. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're not on board the trip, but you're going to go to Kansas City?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Not to Vegas. Not to Vegas. I'm going to go to Kansas City? Not to Vegas. Not to Vegas. I'm going to go to Kansas City. Are you camping somewhere in Kansas? No. Are you covering the game? No, I'm going to go watch the game with the fans. This is wild to me.
Starting point is 00:49:57 There's going to be fans in Vegas. It's a much closer flight. No, no. I want real fans. I want actual fans. Not the ones that pay $15,000 for a seat. When did you get this idea that you wanted to be on the thing? When I was drunk and I was hoping that Detroit was,000. When did you get this idea that you want to be drunk? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:07 Detroit was going to win. Cause I really wanted to go to Detroit. I was an hour late for Nick's podcast. And I came up with this idea. I was like at the bar and the Ravens lost. I was like, okay, that sucks. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:15 Detroit wins. I was like, if Detroit wins CC, we're going to Detroit and we're going to watch. Of course. Oh, amazing. It's there at the bar.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Can't return. It's past 24 hours. So, but like, so I'm actually excited. Cause I will say part of what I want to do while I'm there is ask the fans about their whole feelings on Taylor and Travis because I want to know what locals think. Like if they're excited for it, then maybe I'll change my tune.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Like, you know, if you feel good about it and this represents your city and you love it, then I love it for you. Yeah. I mean, you know, as a pop culture lover, I just like the, you know, I don't like the anger that it kind of produces, but I do love the little things of like, can Taylor make it from her Japanese concert in Japan?
Starting point is 00:50:54 And will Travis Kelsey be at the Grammys, which he isn't going to be at the Grammys. I like that it now kind of spills out into other pop culture and all of the, I like the little Jerry Maguire moment of them kissing on the field. Like I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. Like 10 years from now,
Starting point is 00:51:08 we'll know the real deal if it was a PR relationship or not. But like I said, last time, anything those people do, it's going to be a PR relationship just because they are so famous. But there was a study that came out. She generated $330 million for the NFL. Just her name,
Starting point is 00:51:23 like just that they projected her, like, you know, pushing in 330 million to the NFL. And this is my other issue because I'm like, look, I know that I said that I felt like Taylor had to deal with the NFL. But like at the end of the day, like I'm like, is this also why the Chiefs won? Because I'm just like Detroit should have won that game. And I know for the NFL and for they needed the Chiefs to be at the Super Bowl. And it's going to look, they're going to have the best ratings that they probably had in years. I get frustrated with the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Detroit. No, Detroit played the 40. But I'm saying Kansas City is going to the Super Bowl. And they needed that. I wanted Detroit to go. But they needed the 49ers against them. Well, I don't know if they needed it. It's better.
Starting point is 00:52:03 It actually is. Because everyone would have been rooting for the Lions as the underdog. Yeah. But see, that cesspool that is Twitter is like, you know, I go on there and I don't know a lot about sports, but just it's like, oh, you know, it's that. It's the conspiracy theory of they had the Chiefs win. And I always just like, man, is anything real anymore? We do it with Vanderpump rules. We do it with everything of like, that's not the actual story.
Starting point is 00:52:24 The real story is this. It's like, can we just have like, yeah, they, they actually won on their own accord, but now everything like, there's a still a part of me now because like,
Starting point is 00:52:33 well, maybe they didn't, maybe all the, the refs gave him the calls. Like everything now is some conspiracy theory. I just want something to be like dead on. Correct. I just want it to be real.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. I want something to be real. Like, do we think maybe he just brings out you know a new side of taylor one that she hasn't felt comfortable showing before i think that if anything she brings out a side of him because if anything if anyone is going to fall in love harder i think it's going to be him in this situation and i think that she will be like okay see you later well that's the big mystery is too is like we don't know
Starting point is 00:53:05 like i would love to know what a conversation is like behind closed doors like what do they talk about like does it get deep is it like no you hang up first no you hang up first no you hang up first like is it like where are they in stages of relationship because they can only see each other that much yeah and then even at his victory speech he's like you gotta fight for your right to part and i wonder if taylor's like, you got to fight for your right to part. And I wonder if Taylor's like, oh, Beastie. But like, I wonder even when he does those kind of NFL jocular jock jams. Yeah. She's like, oh, he's so silly and cute.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Or like, what are you doing? Well, when his old tweets came out, I don't know how many of them were real or how many of them were made. But like he spelled squirrel wrong. And I'm like, and I know she is very like intellectual. Like she like, you you know so I do that would bother me that too yeah the your and the you apostrophe r e like yeah like does he do spell check on his text to her like he's like what do I talk to you about Taylor yeah
Starting point is 00:53:57 all right well keeping it with pop stars Britney Spears I saw after Justin Timberlake recently released his new single Selfish, fans flooded streaming platforms to push Britney Spears' song Selfish above Justin's. But then Britney went to Instagram and posted an apology for some of the things she wrote about him in her book, but also was like simultaneously praising his new song song so she loves it how and why do you think this came about you know look I think that Britney has a very tender heart I really do I think she's very sensitive I think she's very childlike because I actually don't think that she grew past a certain age and I think that sometimes you know she may really release or tantrum or whatever and then sometimes she wants to feel love and like you know I also think that sadly
Starting point is 00:54:51 that she's scared of therapy because of what she's been through I also think she needs to be in therapy and I think that's the like problem that we're going to have is like she's very distrusting but she still needs it and so i think that a lot of what we see online are these sort of emotions and i'm not going to assign or prescribe any sort of like mental illness or whatever to it but i do think that she's we're seeing real time her going through and look she's going through a divorce too right it's like all of these things and i don't know who's around her right now and it's always some bizarre housekeeper you know it's just like but then the other thing too is like that is all totally true but then it activates the fan base
Starting point is 00:55:29 yeah because then the fan base is the one that's like no let's get that selfish up on the charts and beat justin so even if britney is not feeling that way the fans still are yeah she almost had to be like yo calling it like true she had to put that out there and it's so interesting if you study justin timberlake right now of like is his comeback you know pr wise is it going to work because if you go online i mean it is non-stop hate for this guy yeah and i just think that is so interesting like even performance wise you know even on snl people were just tearing it apart and i'm like he can't win for i mean there's a sand of all aspect to it in some ways um not to bring it back to him but the other day i mean and i
Starting point is 00:56:05 learned a lot about this from kiki was you know just this weekend was so crazy because then you had the nicky megan the stallion stuff right that was like in the top like so the top five was ben what was it ben the political ben shapiro did a rap on one and then it was nicky minaj megan the stallion justin and britney i was like four of these things are just out of pure spite for each other. So whose side are we on with Nikki and Megan? Because I don't know exactly what's going on, but I know there's like a diss track. And I mean, I love a good diss track.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I came full circle with it, actually. Like when I listen to all the think pieces and all of that, I'm actually not team either of them. I'm actually love both of them. And Nikki is very old school. Yeah. And yeah, her fans, she does need to get them in check. They take it too far.
Starting point is 00:56:46 They should not be trying to desecrate the grave of Megan. There's extra security around Megan Thee Stallion's mom's grave now? I know. It's insane. But like, I was like, at the end of the day, when I go home, I'm probably gonna be bopping to Nikki. And like, on the way here, I was bopping to Megan. But not that diss track.
Starting point is 00:57:00 That diss track was weak. The diss track was terrible. Yeah. Like, that was not a good diss track. She didn't take her time with it. But at the end of the day, like, I think about old school beef. When we see 50 Cent kind of going on someone, we don't think twice about
Starting point is 00:57:11 it. We laugh at it. We were like, oh, the way he comes at Randall. Oh my God, he's so funny. He can go all the way up. But like, when it comes to women, I do think that we like hold them to like the standard and all of a sudden the ageism come in. Oh, she's too old to be doing that. Why? Why is she too old? They're both rappers. They're're both in the same industry she can come at her when she's 45 when she's 55 if they're still rapping who cares i just thought for me it was like you know
Starting point is 00:57:34 to me she is so elevated in status that i was shocked and it wasn't just that it was the non-stop on twitter like go to bet like bethany go to sleep go to sleep do you know that that really actually was like you don't need to be doing this she doesn't like the best meme i saw or best video i saw was like i don't think nikki minaj realizes she's nikki minaj like don't don't don't do this you're way above this you're not scrapping these aren't the salad days you are established and it just made me then we all get worried and you're right though there is a feminine aspect to it that we treat our female pop stars, Britney included,
Starting point is 00:58:07 and we don't do that. I mean, do you remember the silliest one? Eminem and Everlast back in the day? Their beef. And it was so Eminem. And there's a new one, Eminem and Benzino. I'm like, okay, you guys,
Starting point is 00:58:16 you really go to, you two go to sleep. Okay, I have three rapid fire questions to wrap it up. What do you send a postcard to the house of your affair partner? What? Like, what's the postcard? The lightning bolt.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Oh, I would never do it. Yeah. No, no. I mean, obviously, no. 100%. Would you live under a popular flight path? Yeah, houses are so hard to get. I just would love a house.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Depends on, yeah, if i got a good house and also is that exaggerated too i was wondering no no i know literally i'm so trained after over a decade of doing this that even sometimes in normal conversations i'll be at a regular lunch not miked not filming anything and i'll hear a helicopter or a plane and i'll pause conversation because i just know pause for you know an ambulance a plane and so many times this summer at James's it was like and that's what I was wondering when I was watching I was like the production must be so livid yeah do LED lights fall under freedom of speech absolutely not Sandoval 2024 dude LED lights for everybody imagine being those neighbors though they had
Starting point is 00:59:25 to hear him hooking up with rachel in the backyard and then led lights are going at all hours and then the convert like just imagine the conversations that are going on there at three in the morning like that's we should be interviewing the neighbors i'm leaving right now i'm gonna go interview one of them's breckin meyer like i was gonna say that but i didn't think i was setting breckin meyer from clueless. That's got to be wild. Yeah. He's like, Varsity Blues, dude, and Clueless. I didn't know if that was public knowledge. Oh, well,
Starting point is 00:59:51 that was on Nick's podcast. Oh, he said that. Yeah, they left that in there. And we can leave it in here. And the assistant quit. Yes, she did. Yeah. And started a podcast. God. Everything leads to a podcast these days. Seriously. Well, speaking of,
Starting point is 01:00:07 you guys, thank you so much for being here. Host of Pop Crime Podcast and Sirius' Reality Checked. Host of So Bad It's Good with Ryan Bailey. Kiki, Ryan, thank you again for another amazing Hot Topics episode. I know people have loved having you guys here. I love having you here, so I would love to continue
Starting point is 01:00:24 these. Yes, please. All right. Well, did you know? Thanks for listening, guys. Bye. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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