Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Scandoval Whistleblower & VPR Resident Astrologer Ally Lewber: Reality TV, Hippie, Those Rumors & More…
Episode Date: February 9, 2024 This week, Scheana’s VPR castmate Ally Lewber is in the studio for her very first podcast appearance. The pair discuss Ally’s past on reality tv; did it prepare her for the Bravo-wo...rld? How did Ally & James first meet, and why did it almost not happen? How’s Hippie adjusting to his new life (under a flight path), and what message does Ally have for Raquel? Plus, Ally reveals which VPR couples of past & present are astrologically aligned, and she addresses the chatter currently swirling around about her relationship with James. Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guest: @allylewber For more information on how to book an astral reading with Ally, visit www.allylewber.com. The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, February 9th. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Episode Sponsors:Go to DIMEBeautyco.com now and unlock 20% off when you use code GOODASGOLD.Grab your Liquid I.V. Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free in bulk nationwide at Costco or get 20% off your first order when you go to LIQUIDIV.com and use code HONEY at checkout.FX’s Feud: Capote vs The Swans. All new Wednesdays on FX. Stream on Hulu.Get 50% off your first month on ANY crate line at kiwico.com with promo code HONEY.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I hope you enjoy this little snack. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up
with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea.
Hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. I am so excited for today's episode
for a few reasons. One, I am straight back and off a plane from New York. I am absolutely
exhausted. I had so much fun and I'm like, I'm so thankful that I have my girl right here next to me, the Vanderpump Rules resident
astrologer in the house, hopefully here to help forecast my future and maybe shed some
light on some of our crew.
So please welcome my beautiful and very talented friend, Allie Luper.
How we doing?
Thanks, Sheena.
That was so sweet.
I'm doing good.
I'm so excited you're finally here.
I'm so excited too, finally here. Yeah, I was like, okay, I can just like have a fun chat with my girlfriend
today. I don't have to have my brain completely on. No, you don't. I've got my notes. We're good.
It was a night where, you know, when you have a really early flight and it's like,
we may as well just stay up and sleep on the plane. Yep. So we went out, there was live band
karaoke. Oh, that's so fun.
And I was so mad.
It was, we were taking so long to figure out what song.
And then they were like, this is the last song.
So we didn't even get to do it.
No.
I know.
That's sad when that happens.
Yeah.
But then we went to a tiki bar.
Then we went here and I was just, it was a whole night.
I love that for you.
That's so fun.
Yeah.
That's like what James does when he travels.
He literally finishes at like 2 a.m. And his flights are at like five or six right just posts gets back and posts his
content totally goes i know i was like i'm how you guys do that i'm just gonna sleep on the plane
yeah but and then you guys are going to new york next week yes monday so fun so excited yeah it was
so much fun it goes by so quickly i was like and i can't see ariana's not playing when we're there
so i'm like really bummed oh she's dark on wednesdays yeah tuesday is the only day we
could do but he's watch what happens live yeah that's the same time i'm gonna have to go back
at some point well i want to go back too okay because i didn't get to go back and see it again
this trip but i'm like there's no way i'm only seeing her first show and not seeing it again.
I had such FOMO.
We'll definitely plan another one.
I need to see it.
Okay, good.
It's so good.
I can't get over it.
And apparently, Dan said it's gotten even better.
And I'm like, I bet it gets better every time.
I don't believe that, Dan.
It couldn't have gotten any better.
It was so good.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
So we'll definitely have to go back.
We've always said that too.
We're like, we need to go see a musical together.
Yes.
I know.
That's so crazy.
Yeah.
So we'll make it happen.
But so yeah, I know you're going for Watch What Happens Live.
James is doing.
That'll be a fun episode.
We have the DJs from Emo Night.
Oh, that's right.
TJ and Morgan are going to be bartending.
We had the 27th bartend last night.
Yes, I saw.
So fun.
I just have to say,
so because I've kind of stayed out of the comment section,
but I saw some comments about the game that we played.
And now, yes.
I just want to say that when I was briefed before the show,
they told me I was going to play a game where I put on the goggles
and Ryan has to describe a person to me from Bravo specifically.
Right.
So then when they go, okay, we're going to pop up some pictures.
And I'm like, where are my goggles?
And they don't give me the goggles.
So I was like, oh, I guess they're just going to let me see what the person looks like.
But I was told these are all Bravo people.
Right.
And so they're like, do you think Sheena knows who this is?
And I was like, I wasn't even thinking it was someone outside of Bravo.
Right, right.
You're like, that's not the first lady.
How's my franchise like that?
Is that someone's mom on Southern Charm?
Like, I was just like, no, I don't watch a ton of shows on Bravo.
Okay, well, that makes sense if that's where your brain was.
Yes.
And you're like, well, I'm not, like, that's not right.
And I was like, where are the goggles?
You guys told me I was playing.
And then I still did that game,
but I was like, no one briefed me on this game.
So I'm just thinking this is someone
from another Bravo show.
They should have said the first part is CNN
and then the second part is Bravo.
So I was so thrown off,
but then I at least got a few.
It was funny.
I was cracking up.
Yeah.
So anyways anyways good times
but we are now two episodes into season 11 how are you feeling about everything I'm feeling
I'm feeling good I'm feeling fine a lot better than last season definitely not as anxious and
I mean yeah just picking up the pieces I feel like but I'm excited to like
get into it I'm excited to watch Tahoe yeah I'm excited for hippie to enter like so there's
moments that I'm looking forward to yeah I'm nervous to watch Tahoe yeah yeah it was a rough
one yeah yeah so what was going through your head just the first couple episodes. Like, were you nervous at all? Have you
felt relieved? Are you anxious about what's to come or just kind of excited? I guess the first
couple episodes, I feel like most of my, you know, like you get a little anxious before you watch
because like, what do I do? What do I say? Right. But then watching it, I was like, okay, it's fine.
Yeah. I don't know it's
mostly rough just watching Tom Sandoval and like seeing what he says in his interviews and like
his side and like I was obviously in the car when James and Tom had their talk but then like
watching it back I was just like oh okay that was shitty yeah him to like really go there and to bring that up yeah I think they
asked me about that last night but yeah and then oh yeah yeah I yeah you're like it's Ariana's
bush too so I have to ask you because I know this isn't your first time doing reality tv and now
that it's been announced, there's a show called
The Valley. I'm like, interesting name. I think my friend Allie was on a show called The Valley
back in the day. What were you like, 18? 18 and 19. Okay. So after that experience,
did you think you would ever do reality TV again? No, 100% no. I was like boring and too nice. And it was a cool experience. It was in my
small town. It wasn't anything compared to Vanderpump. Like I wouldn't even compare them
at all. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, it was reality. And it just followed like six of us after high
school, going into college. And like, it was a really cool experience. It was my first like real
job. Like I made money. So that was nice. And it was fun. But experience it was my first like real job like I
made money so that was nice and it was fun but yeah after that I was like well that was cool I
I don't think reality tv is for me and here we are so kind of crazy yeah and then the fact that
that's called the valley right it's so weird I know it's so funny I know so how did that show
come about like who reached out to you? Did you have to audition? Was there a
casting? I'm trying to remember. There was a casting. I remember being in the car with my mom
and I was a performer at the time. So like with music, I would play out and sing and stuff. And
my mom like told me about this show and she was like, I'm going to just like drive you to the
audition. Just do it. And I was kind of like, what? No, mom, like that's so embarrassing. I
don't want to do a reality show. Like what? And I think I was just shy and nervous. But I went to
the casting and there were like a ton of people. And I was just like, OK, well, like, I'm not going
to get this, but like, we'll try. They're like, do you have any skeletons in your closet? And I'm
like, no, no. So I don't know really why I even got cast on that show, but it was really fun.
And I became really good friends with the people was really fun. And I became really good friends
with the people. And more importantly, I became really good friends with like the producers on
the show, because then when I went back to college and studied entertainment journalism,
when I would go back to Dayton for the summers, I worked at the news station that produced the show.
And so I was like a PA and I just stayed in like good graces with all of them, which was nice. So
well, cool experience.
But I know why they picked you because you're beautiful and you're talented.
You have a great personality.
So there's a million reasons.
Thank you, Sheena.
I love you.
I love you too.
Do you keep in touch with any of your former cast members?
Some of them, a few, just in touch in a way.
Like if they're in L.A., like they'll reach out and we'll like hang out.
But not too much.
Have they said anything
about you being on Vanderpump Rules no now that I think about it maybe one yeah my friend Noelle
I think that we've talked and like she thinks it's funny but no one else yeah my producer Jason
thinks it's hilarious so he loves it yeah do you think doing that show kind of helped you just like
get set up to do another one you're like okay this okay, this isn't my first rodeo. You know, I've done this before.
Not really, honest.
I feel like it's just so different.
And if anything, I feel like I was like laughing.
Like, okay, universe, like putting me in this situation again.
All right.
Yeah, very different.
Very different.
Yeah.
Well, speaking of the universe, Valentine's's day is next week and since you are
my astrologer i wanted to give you two signs okay and you tell me how good of a match you think
this pairing would make okay i'm not going to tell you who the couples are okay i just want you to
oh gosh okay okay so if there were a Virgo and a Cancer, what's their compatibility?
Okay. They're both very nurturing and very caring. And that can sometimes be really great. And then
sometimes that can become a little like hard because they're both almost competing to be the
nurturer or to like do things their way, especially Virgos. But I'll be honest,
honestly, compatibility is so interesting because I've seen people's charts who you would say have
awful compatibility and they're like still together and thriving. And then I've seen the
opposite where people should have great compatibility and they didn't work. So honestly,
in astrology, like I like to use it as a tool more and be like okay where are our tough spots that we can like
learn from and learn to work yeah together because you know every I honestly think every
sign is compatible at the end of the day it's just about like overcoming the obstacles but
okay keep going now this is still fun and Lisa oh shit no I think that was pretty good that's so
funny he's a cancer uh-huh because Lisa yeah Lisa's a
Virgo yeah okay yeah okay what about she's the Virgo because that does make it more like she
it's her empire like well it's history but you know what I mean like she's the boss and totally
like yeah yeah okay cool oh god what about a Capricorn and a Libra. Okay. Yeah. Tricky. I mean, I'm a Capricorn sun and a Libra moon. And I can,
and so I can say it's definitely doable. We're talking about Katie and shorts, right? Yeah.
Definitely doable. However, it can be, again, it's that like power shift, that kind of power
struggle a little bit. Libras are a little more go with the flow and like, okay, where Capricorns are like a little
more say what you mean. And so that can cause a little bit of communication issues for sure.
What about an Aquarius and a Cancer?
Don't love it.
But again, it can be, it can work. It can work.
Kristen and Sandoval, Jackson, Brittany.
Shit, that's so funny.
Yeah, you know, cancer isn't just in general.
My ex was a cancer too.
Not a big fan of cancer men.
Like, just kidding.
Not all of you.
But like, yeah, it's.
Yeah.
What about a cancer and a cancer?
You know what?
I actually like that.
I like that. Interesting interesting you get each other
but then again it's like probably a lot of like there needs to be work there needs to be
communication in the middle of all of that but who who's that tom and ariana jackson stassi okay
okay damn didn't work for either of them so So right. Right. So Virgo and Cancer is basically
the winners here. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. How about Taurus and Gemini? Love. Be together forever.
Perfect couple. No, but really, but also see, there's just so much more to the chart because
you have a Gemini rising. And so the fact that Brock is a Gemini and you're a
Gemini rising, like you guys get each other. He sees you. He supports you. Yeah. And then
I forget what his rising is. He doesn't know because he doesn't know the exact time.
His mom's like, yeah, which kid were you? Right. She's like, it was sometime in the morning. I
remember your dad was able to make it to work on time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so funny. So we don't know exactly. What about a Virgo and an Aries? Oof. Yeah, tricky. Well, Virgo, I honestly like
just wish I could see the whole chart because I like to look at Venus and the moon sign for
compatibility anyway. But, you know, Virgos are perfectionist and Aries, they like to get shit
done. They're very like onto the next thing.
They get things done quickly.
Virgo, I think of them as the same way.
So I could see it working.
But ultimately, I could also see it being like a little bit of like outrunning that.
It's just like a lot of energy.
And no, I'm right.
No, I'm right.
Lala and Randall.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Capricorn and Aquarius.
Love.
Honestly, though, like, that, see, if I, like, wasn't obviously James and me, I'd be like,
that's a little tricky of one, too, just because Capricorns are so set in their ways and Aquarius
is so, like, free for all and just like a more more free spirited
and like I don't know but I have a lot of Aquarius in my chart and James has a lot of Capricorn in
his chart so like interesting it's a balance okay yeah what about Virgo and Aquarius I like that
yeah I think I like that but also same thing Virgo with the earth sign and the earth energy
and the perfection and like wanting things done a certain way and then the Aquarius is like that's never you can't put me in a box so kind of same
yeah I think there was Raquel oh fuck right Aquarius and Aquarius this is so fun how have
we never done this before what the heck okay who Aquarius and Aquarius Aquarius and Aquarius. Aquarius and Aquarius.
You know, could work. Could work if everything else is there. But ultimately, it's out of control. It's a little bit too like, I'm going to do what I want to do. You're going to do what you want to
do. And there might be like control issues there. But it could work if they were really on the same
page with things that could actually be a cool couple that's kristin and james yep okay last one
cancer and libra cancer and libra oh that's just like a sweet little pair
i just imagine them like at home like like watching movies, lighting a candle.
Yeah, I like that.
There might have to be some communication work again.
And like, you know, but ultimately I feel like that's a sweet pairing.
So Tom and Tom are a perfect match.
Literally.
Oh my God.
Right.
They really are.
And he's a Cancer.
Tom Schwartz is a Cancer rising.
So same thing with what I was saying about you and Brock and how his Gemini sees you.
Sandoval, I guess, gets him.
He gets him.
The most compatible out of all of us.
Right?
Oh my gosh, so funny.
I do have more questions about astrology and I want to get into a little bit of my birth chart.
If you can.
Yes, of course.
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Okay, so I have to ask for all of the listeners who don't know, because I feel like we're just
now getting to see this on the show, and I know we're going to have so much more this season
coming up, but how did you get into astrology?
And where did that interest and curiosity stem from?
I always was interested in it.
You know, like I would get the Cosmo magazine and read the horoscope section.
Yes.
On the back of the bus or at the pool or whatever. But it got, I got deep into astrology in college.
And then I actually started studying it during COVID.
Okay.
So that was when I went like full in, obsessed, like couldn't stop.
My mind is just always thinking astrologically.
So yeah.
How do you get to that level of confidence to now just do readings for complete strangers?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a good question. I honestly like just do it
because I was nervous at the beginning because I had done reading so much for family and friends.
And like I knew that I trusted myself doing it. But doing it for strangers is different. And you
never know what kind of like who you're getting if it's someone who's like, especially in this
world, like someone who's just trying to like suss you out or like, you know, or if they're like a not believer. So I was nervous at first, but I think that each
reading I do, I just, one, I fall in love with astrology even more because it blows my mind.
And then two, it's just like, I get better and it's just like practice makes perfect. So just
do it. Do you have any crazy stories from a reading that you've done that you could share?
Ooh. Like has something come up in someone've done that you could share? Ooh.
Like has something come up in someone's chart and you're like, whoa.
Okay.
I'm trying to think of something, but this actually happened last week and I was doing a reading and she had a lot happening in her fifth house.
And I was like, ooh, like you're trying to get pregnant right now.
Like this is a great time.
And if you're not like birth control, but like you're very fertile.
She's like, Allie, I'm literally giving birth tomorrow.
Oh my gosh.
It was crazy.
I was like, shut up.
Are you okay?
She was like, I'm having contractions right now, but I'm fine.
And I was like, should you be here?
She's like, I didn't want to miss my appointment.
That was very, very wild.
Wait, that's crazy.
Isn't that crazy?
That's so cool.
Yeah.
I know we got to see you map out Schwartz's birth chart on this week's episode.
Were there any surprising things you learned about him through that process,
aside from him not liking being labeled a people pleaser?
I know I felt bad for that one because I know I call myself that too,
because the Libra placements.
Yeah, it is just it's not that you want to please people,
that you genuinely like want people to get along like it's not that you want to please people that you genuinely like
want people to get along like it's that peacekeeper yeah but um his okay so the one thing that
surprised me about his chart not really surprised but validated was he has his north node in the
first house and basically the north node is like your your destiny point or your purpose point
and the first house is all about you,
like yourself and believing in yourself
and your dreams and your, like, it's you.
And so that was interesting.
So I was like, yeah, in this lifetime,
you're literally meant to master you
and like learn how to trust you
and like speak up for yourself
and trust your own gut and ideas.
And so that was interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully he's doing more of that now. Yeah. No, I love that he ended up doing Winterhouse by himself.
Right. Because he's always in Tom's shadow. And it's like James said, I think it was in the first
episode. He's like, you're the best, Tom, when you're just Tom Schwartz, you're not Tom Tom.
Yeah. And I feel like hopefully with him, you know, kind of being forced to do some
things on his own over this past year, it's given him the confidence to do more things on his own
and believe in himself. Yeah. So true. Yeah. Yeah. I told him about that and he was like,
that makes sense. And I'm like, I'll keep reminding you. Yeah. North node in the first house.
Okay. So tell me about mine because I know we've done this once before, but it was a group thing.
tell me about mine because I know we've done this once before, but it was a group thing.
So what interesting things can you share about my chart? Okay. So you're a Sag moon, Gemini rising,
Taurus sun, all in the 12th house, which I am obsessed with that in your chart. I can get to that. But I think the really cool thing is that your moon is in your seventh house of relationships and marriage and intimacy. And the moon is the
emotional planet. That's the planet that rules our mental health. So it's very important. And
it's what we need. It's a non-negotiable. So when the moon is in the seventh house, we have someone
who really needs to feel secure in a relationship and someone, you know, not saying that you're not
independent. It's just saying that you want that balance and that support.
But it's also a Sagittarius, which is really cool because that represents foreign travels.
And so when Sagittarius is in the seventh house, we usually see someone who marries someone from a different country.
No way.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Isn't that crazy?
So that was interesting.
And then you also have Jupiter in your ninth house.
Jupiter represents foreign travel, higher education, philosophy, astrology.
And the ninth house is the house of foreign travel.
And so usually when I see that placement, there is a strong indication of someone who
lives abroad or travels a lot overseas.
There's a lot of opportunities for you abroad.
And there always
will be so like i don't know that's cool that's so crazy leave us and go live in italy or australia
yeah one day no literally my psychic grace she does tarot cards for me and there are things
that she told me a couple months ago that have already come true which is one of the things I'll tell you after okay okay um we're not going there just yet but one of the things that she told me was she
sees me splitting a lot of my time between here and Sydney and eventually maybe having a place
in Sydney and working a lot in Australia yep and I was like I mean I would love that I would love
to go and tour with the band in Australia but I would also love to do stuff with Brock and work
or film another show,
have just a little YouTube series or something.
So I was like, she has been right about everything,
the things that she's predicted.
I found out I was pregnant the first time
through a reading with her.
I remember Courtney telling me that.
See, that's what blows my mind because astrology,
and I've had this happen where clients will be like, oh, my psychic said the same thing that. See, that's what blows my mind because astrology, and I've had this happen
where clients will be like,
oh, my psychic said the same thing.
And I'm like,
that blows my mind.
Am I psychic?
I have to look.
No, I have to like read the chart.
But like psychics somehow
just pick up that energy
and that blows my mind.
That's so cool.
But yeah, for sure for you.
And also,
moon in the seventh house
is a strong indicator
of going into business
with your partner.
There's a lot of emotional support there,
but it's forever.
So it's the idea of like,
once you find your puzzle piece,
it's like, okay, this feels great,
but now let's do stuff.
Let's build things together
and let's create a life, a family, a job,
business, stuff like that.
I love that.
And then your son is in the 12th house,
which I just find really interesting.
And I think people would be kind of shocked by that
because the 12th house is the house of like being hidden or behind the scenes. It's very spiritual. And
it is the house of foreign travel as well in a way where it's about getting out of your mind
and being very spiritual, like Buddhist monk, think that. But also healers. And so I think
that's totally like your empathy and your love for people and everyone. Like that's just the sun in the 12th house.
You shine.
That's the sun.
So that's where you feel confident and you feel your best
when you're in a state of peace and when everyone's getting along.
But also it's just funny because you're very comfortable being seen and being on a stage.
And this is an actual placement that's very common with celebrities, actually.
But you wouldn't really think that because the sun and the 12th is hidden.
But it's actually your private life is just very important to you.
And that comes first.
And then the other stuff just happens naturally.
You don't have to really worry about that.
That's almost so easy.
Yeah.
It's like that's taken care of.
But then you're doing a lot of work on yourself and your mental
health and your private life but that's where you shine that's where you feel your happiest and your
best wow well thanks that's so cool it's so I love how you do this and I love that you now have
the platform where you can do this for so many other people because like you are so talented not just with your music but with
your astrology and honestly you're the best and most amazing breath of fresh air that we've ever
had in this group oh my god i mean season 10 you know it just it's been really amazing just getting
to know you and becoming so close with you
because you are an incredible human.
Thank you.
I'm blushing.
Yeah.
Thank you, Sheena.
I love you.
I love you.
And you guys have all been amazing also.
That was so scary last year.
Now I'm like, what?
I love them.
They're awesome.
Okay, so I want to-
Especially you, yeah.
Thanks.
Yeah.
I do want to talk a little bit about last year because you were like the Vanderpump Rules whistleblower.
You were the first one to catch on to Sandoval and Raquel.
You caught them out at the Abbey.
What was your first thought?
Like, did you intuitively feel like something more than platonic was happening?
Honestly, I just found it really inappropriate inappropriate and so i don't know if i
immediately went there but i was thinking okay this is weird tom's enjoying her company a little
too much because also at the time remember how ariana would always be like he's just never home
i want him to spend time with me this was a tuesday night and i was like where's ariana and
he was like at home and i'm, why aren't you at home?
Like he's choosing to be there with her.
And so that is what spoke volumes.
I was like, oh, he doesn't want to be at home with her.
That's not good.
Yeah.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
And then I just thought it was like a little weird.
Yeah.
And then it's like they profusely denied anything was going on.
Did you still think there was something or when they denied it
so much did that feeling kind of subside yeah it did subside honestly talking to you and james
because you guys were you guys were both so like absolutely not yeah james was even like that's
insane no like tom would never do that it was like I was gaslighting you and didn't even know it I'm so
sorry no it's okay I felt bad I was like oh my god I'm like accusing their friends of like
but honestly yeah I I don't know these people so I was like yeah whatever like I guess that's just
normal but you know nobody was right nobody was wrong like they should yeah it was just a weird situation it really was yeah okay backtracking a bit more
I feel like people have mixed impressions on how you and James met you were a fan
yada yada whatever so how did you guys first meet and when you met him did you know who he was
I did know who he was um and that made you
still want to date him right i know that's the big question right i think andy cohen asked me that
once and i was like oh my gosh i like always have to defend it and i'm like um okay thanks for asking
this because it's actually a really crazy cute story and i i don't know whatever it doesn't
matter what people say but so the night that I met James,
Zach, Zachary Reality, who you know, he was actually invited by Tom Sandoval's manager.
I don't know if that was Jason or not, but Zach literally still has the text like I can show them.
And he was invited to come to take TikToks and to film content backstage for Tom Sandoval's band.
And a few months before the actual date, you know, he invited me and a big group of our friends.
And we all said yes, because it was, sure, that sounds fun.
Yeah.
A month from now.
Okay, well, come that day.
And it's the night after my birthday party.
And this is like one of the hangovers where it's like, you are not getting out of bed.
Like I was, it was bad.
And I canceled. And I was like, Zach, I'm sorry, I can't go tonight. And he freaked out because
everyone kind of canceled. One other friend of ours, my best friend from college was also still
going to go. But basically he was like, you guys can't leave me. He was like, no, this isn't cool.
I'm making you come like, come on. He literally shows up at my apartment. He's like, we're going.
I think I drank like a Bud Light or something to like get myself like hair of the dog. I threw my
hair in a bun. I don't even like I was just like, OK, it was far. It was all the way in. I know
whatever. So we're like driving there. I'm just kind of like this sucks. And so then we get anyway,
I'm telling the story so in detail. But it is interesting because that's why last season I said
my friend dragged me
and people were like,
what?
Like, no,
like he kind of literally dragged me
and I'm so grateful now
looking back.
Like that's so wild
just how I almost didn't go.
Right.
But I did.
And that's what I think
is cool about the story.
But then we get there.
He goes backstage.
We're like not going with him.
We're like sitting down
and he was nervous.
He's like, come with me.
So we go with him.
Anyway, the first person we see when we walk in is James and he comes like right up to us.
He's like, hey, and you know, Zach, like he just starts talking to him. I'm just kind of standing there and they start like doing TikToks together. And then he like, you know, we introduce and he
gets my Instagram, not my friend's Instagram. So I was like, okay, like he's flirting with me.
And he was very charming, very cute. And I was like, for the first couple seconds so I was like okay like he's flirting with me and he was very charming
very cute and I was like for the first couple seconds I was like oh wait he has a girlfriend
or like a fiance and then I remember they broke up and I was like okay and honestly like it was
you know when you just meet someone and you're like I love their energy you're so cute you're
so funny yeah I really just like it was a crush like immediately. Yeah. And then
I didn't think anything of it. And then the next day he texted me and then, yeah, here you are.
Every day. So that's the story. You could ask James, too. I don't know. But yeah,
it was just such a fun night that almost didn't happen. And so thank you, Zach.
Yeah. Did you know how recent his breakup was? Like,
did that give you any concern? Yeah, for sure. It's only been a few weeks. I think it was about
five weeks, maybe. Yeah. I don't remember the timeline, but it was longer than what she loves
to keep saying it was. Yeah, I think it was longer than that. I think it was five weeks or so. And
yeah, at first it worried me a lot, but we were taking things slow at the
beginning. Like we were just taking out. And I also made it very clear that I just wanted to
be friends because I wasn't ready for a relationship either. And we both were like on the same page
with that. And then honestly, things just escalated so quickly and feelings happen. You know, like
when it happens, there really aren't rules. Like totally. It just happened and we fell in love yeah sorry
about it I love that nothing to be sorry for thank you what would you say has been the biggest
challenge for you entering this vpr bravo world and coming in as James's girlfriend yeah I think last year was a lot harder than this year.
And honestly, just because I am kind of a shy, like quieter person that doesn't necessarily
love drama.
And so I was really nervous to go into last year.
I thought it would definitely be like, you know, Raquel and all the girls like against
me.
And so that worried me.
know, Raquel and all the girls like against me. And so that worried me. And then social media was probably the other thing, you know, that I struggled with at the beginning, just because
I never really post or like use it. I was on private and I was I don't know, that was just
uncomfortable. But now I like love social media. And so I've leaned into it and I'm like, wait,
this is so fun. Why was I such a hater for so long? Yeah, I enjoy it now. But yeah, but it does take some getting used to. For sure. I mean, you were private for so long.
And then the day you went off, it was like, boom, a thousand something. It was crazy. James,
actually, like the moment the first episode aired, he was like, give me your phone. And I was like,
no, it's not time. He's like, it's time. And I'm like, yeah, I consent.
With Raquel being so, you know, in the center of the friend
group at the time, were you skeptical about getting close with her, myself, Ariana? How did
you feel in that sense? I think that last year I was just so like wanting everyone to know that I
come in peace. I'm sorry I'm here. Like I didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea. And so I think looking back at it, I definitely think I was a little maybe too
accepting and friendly and like could have had a little more boundaries with just like
the X and like, you know, creating space a bit. But no, I'm so glad that like I got to know you
and and Ariana and Lala and Katie as well. So no regrets. I'm glad that like I got to know you and and Ariana and Lala and Katie as well.
So no regrets.
I'm glad that like, yeah, we are where we are now.
And that's great.
But yeah, I think I was a little like too.
It's OK.
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
But also when you're coming into this group, it is a very intimidating group.
It's a group who doesn't always, you know, just openly accept new people.
It's like, what's your motive? You know, we've been doing this for so long. So it's like group who doesn't always, you know, just openly accept new people. It's like,
what's your motive? You know, we've been doing this for so long. So it's like, who is this?
Yeah. And I see that now just with certain things and people. I'm like, oh, I get it.
Yeah. Now that the Toms are single, you know, it's like these girls that they're bringing to
the premiere party. I see them with at the bar and I'm like, who is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. I get it.
Yeah.
Who do you feel you're closest with out of our group of friends?
I would say you.
I would say you because we actually like hang out the most outside of filming.
You and Courtney.
And then.
I know.
I love that you and my sister are friends.
I know.
I love you too.
We're like, yeah.
Yeah.
I love when we all get to hang out.
And then I would say, you know, equal with the other girls too.
Yeah.
Like, it's always nice to see them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like I said, I just want to reiterate,
because literally you have just been the best addition to this friend group.
Like, you bring the best energy.
There's never a time where if I'm in a bad mood and I'm around you,
like, that's going to change my mood. So just know that you have that effect on people. Thank you. Yeah. That's so kind. Of
course. Okay. One more quick little break. And then I want to talk about hippie and some rumors
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Okay, I have to say one of my favorite things in the season premiere was the montage of the
planes flying overhead. Like they do things that are a little shady. They did this to me
when we got engaged on my balcony and like cars are honking and whatnot, but it does, you know,
add entertainment. Yeah. But have you adjusted to the noise? Were you aware that you were under a
flight path before you guys moved in? Yeah, we were aware. It was one of James's like cons in
the house. And I was like, what are you talking about? This is such a pro. You are literally at
the airport all the time. We're so close. I also grew up next to an airport. So I'm actually used to the sound
and I like, I like sounds. I like feeling like I'm like we're in Burbank. It's so quiet. I'm
like, I like feeling like there's noise. Like I like the city. So I'm fine with it. And James
is getting used to it. Yeah. Do you ever, when we're not filming just at home, when you hear
a plane, do you ever naturally just like pause your conversation
yes yes I do that all the time it's so funny because yeah because with filming and that's
why I thought it was funny too that obviously they would have noticed that more than we would
have because they have to be like stop speaking hold for plane yeah hold for ambulance yeah hold
for siren hold for I'm like I notice that sometimes I'm just out at lunch and I'm like oh
wait you're not yeah you're like you're not wearing a microphone. It's okay. You can keep talking
over the plane. Speaking of the house, how involved were you in the house decision and
who has done more in making this house a home? So I was very involved. I actually found the house
on Zillow. We were, we were looking at a few houses, obviously, like,
yeah, this is James's house. I'm not you know, he it's completely his own. I do not own it.
But I was a part of the process. And I would go to all the Harry. His brother actually was our
realtor. So we didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yes. And so he took us around all
these different houses and we started making like, you know, pros and cons. Like, what do we want? And yeah, they were all every house we saw. They were great, but they all needed work as in like renovations, like, oh, the kitchen or the bathroom. And I was just like, but James really loved some of them. And I was like, when are you? We don't have time. Like, we're so busy. You're never home. And I was like, just up at night.
I was like, I'm going to check Zillow one more time.
And this house that we're in now just came available.
Like, it was so weird how it happened.
And also the number of the address,
which I'm not going to say,
is like a number that, it's not an angel number,
but it's a number that I love.
It has meaning to me.
And James and I are big like that.
There has to be a good number.
Anyway, so yeah, we found it.
It didn't need any work except the backyard, which was fine and easy. And James
like wanted to redo a backyard anyway. So yeah, we that's the house. And I've really enjoyed
decorating it. I love decorating. Just really therapeutic to me and organizing your fridge.
Oh my gosh. My mom saw it the other day. She's like, I didn't realize that like she thought
she was watching an ad. It was so amazing. I was like, I just watched that too. It made me
want to organize my fridge. James's mom said the same thing. She was like, I started like
organizing my fridge because of something I saw. And then I saw it again and I realized it was you.
I was like, that's so funny. Yeah. I'm kind of weird like that. Yeah. No, I am too. But then
you throw a toddler in it and I got factor meals everywhere.
People were commenting like, this is unrealistic. And I'm like, yeah, of course. And like,
does it stay like that for long? No, but it's nice when it does. And you can post it and you're like,
here's my fridge for now. Totally. And when James is gone and we don't have children,
you know, and it's just me, I literally just eat factor meals. So like, there's not that much in
the fridge. Yeah. I mean, they're the best. they are with the wellness shots the smoothies the meals I'm
like good to go I know yeah good good as gold 50 uh for that have you guys been assembling any more
furniture do you call a task rabbit now um we did call taskbit after production left, not gonna lie.
And then, yeah, nothing else that we're building.
No, TaskRabbit's just so easy.
So easy.
It's like Uber Eats.
Once you start it, you're like, why would I ever build something so bad?
Yeah.
So I know we haven't seen this on the show yet, but you have welcomed a new addition into the home recently.
So what did that conversation look like with taking
Hippie in? And did you have concerns in the beginning due to his past, you know,
aggressive behaviors and whatnot? Yes. I mean, yeah, a lot of this will probably be
in the upcoming episodes. But yeah, I was really nervous because just the cats. And I know that
you yourself, like, it's's funny like when I think back to
that time I call him Graham because then he was then he was Graham so I look at I say his name
like by the timeline so Graham yeah like you had told me too like you didn't trust him around your
cats and things like that and so I was really nervous I love my cats a lot and I was like
I would love to take this dog in.
But also like we were so good.
Like everything was so, so good.
And so at the beginning, I wasn't like thrilled.
But now I'm like, thank you, universe.
Blessings, kisses.
Like I'm obsessed with that dog.
I love that dog.
And he gets along with the cats.
He's not eating their heads off.
He hasn't bitten. Just so everyone knows, he's I was gonna ask. Seriously a sweetheart. That's
amazing. Yeah. And we did a lot of training in the beginning. And now I can happily say like,
we don't necessarily need it that much. And I think that, yeah, he just has stability and rules.
And he's a good little boy. Yeah. Yeah. I love him. I love that. Because I mean, I remember how hesitant you were.
And as a fellow cat owner, but also when, you know, Summer was a baby and Raquel was
living in our apartment, I couldn't have her at the house because I'm like, you bet my
sister, I don't trust you.
Yeah, for sure.
And then when Graham came back into the picture, I was like, this is a different dog.
Yeah, I remember you literally like, and I believed you for a minute.
Someone painted a white spot on that dog, the first bath you give him.
It's like from Meet the Fockers and Meet the Parents or whatever.
I was like, this is not the same dog.
No, and you like scared me because I was like, oh my God, what if it is?
Like they switch the dogs out.
Yeah.
Because you were like, I remember you were like, I used to never want to touch him.
And you were like cuddling him and And he was on the bed with you.
And I was like, that's a good sign.
Yeah.
Love hippie.
I know, me too.
I saw on, not I saw because I have only seen little TikToks and things.
I've read recaps and whatnot.
But I know Raquel has expressed concern over James handling Graham, now hippie, due to
past incidents where she felt like he wasn't a good
dog parent, suggesting that there were even moments of cruelty. Have you noticed that with
either of the pets in your home? Absolutely not. No, no. James is like meant to be a parent. Like
he's just he's so attentive. He's sweet he's obsessed with hippie I'm like
if anything like we smother him too much like that could be a problem maybe I don't know do
we love him too much but honestly in my experience from what I've witnessed he loves that dog more
than anything yeah and I honestly would trust no one more than James yeah with that dog and myself
is there any message you would want to relay to Raquel so that she you know just
has like some solace in knowing that Graham and Hippie is doing well oh yeah because I can't
imagine now that we know the full story and what happened you know I can't imagine how hard that
was for her because I know she did love yeah this. And then all of a sudden, you know,
you get out of this facility.
Now you don't have your dog.
You don't have any of your friends.
Like, I can't imagine how hard that all was.
No, that also like when Graham first came into our lives,
like that was my thing is I was like,
I didn't think Raquel knew
because we didn't know anything.
But then when Lisa told me the story,
I was like, oh, OK. But at first I was like, oh my God, like should I text't think Raquel knew because we didn't know anything. But then when Lisa told me the story, I was like, oh, OK.
But at first I was like, oh, my God, like, should I text and call Raquel and tell her
like we have her dog?
And I was like, James, don't get too attached because she's going to like come back and
want her dog.
So I think as the situation started to click and it made more sense, like then it was easier
for me to get attached.
But at first it just did not make any sense to me.
And I felt awful for her.
I was like, oh, I could not imagine having someone else take hippie now or take my cats. Like,
in what world? Like, that's not happening. Yeah. So I did feel really bad. And I guess if I did
have a message, it would just to be he's good. He's well. And we love him so much. And he'll
always be taken care of. Good. I love that. On the topic of her,
she also recently stated on her podcast that you remind her a lot of herself. She said that
you're both very patient and that there's motive in like you wanting to help James. She said that also she doesn't think you and James have a healthy
relationship, that any relationship with James isn't healthy. Do you see where she might be
coming from here in noting the similarities? First question. Oh, gosh. Oh, my. I mean, I guess
patience. That's a pretty common trait that I think you have as well.
So I think that that's a trait.
Yeah, sure.
I definitely think it takes patience to just even be with someone like James,
who has just a lot of energy.
And we're all, look, we're all a work in progress.
And as long as we're just trying to be better people every single day,
like that's all we can ask for.
James is a great guy and he's working on himself and I'm proud of him and he's helped me just as much as I think I've
helped him. So that's what I'll say to that. Second part to the question is what do you think
is different in your relationship with James from other relationships of his that have been
also documented on the show? Honestly, I don't know. I mean, I don't like to
look back. But I mean, if I look back at my own relationships in the past, you know, like we're
all growing. Yeah, we're all learning. We make mistakes. We learn from them. And, you know,
so in a weird way, like always be grateful for like his exes because you know that was the path that he needed to be on
and yeah I think that they were both really young when they met I'm sure that's part of it and
I don't know I don't know yeah so aside from questions about your astrology people obviously
wanted to know how they can get a reading from you. So we can put that in the episode description and all of that.
The top question that came in for you was wanting to address some rumors that have been
swirling around on social media.
And I know we spoke about this before if you wanted to talk about it.
Yeah.
But on a recent episode of Two Teas in a Pod,
Tati Mellencamp had revealed that she and Tamara shared a car with you guys
following the MTV Awards.
Uh-huh.
I think it was maybe like two years ago now.
Yeah.
And she said that they were headed
to an after party at TomTom.
And during that car ride,
there was an altercation between two people in the car,
which made her and Teddy have to get out of the car,
separate the two individuals in the car, which made her and Teddy have to get out of the car, separate the two individuals in the car, and further suggested that James was involved. And now there's rumors
flying around that Teddy might be hinting at an altercation between you and James.
Right. Okay. Yeah. Do you recall that incident that she's describing? And do you feel that she has described
this accurately? Like I want to get your side because you are obviously also in the car,
especially like that's crazy to me that that's the most asked question. Like that makes me really sad
because no, I'm good. That never happened. There was no physical altercation. Yes,
we were in the car together. I thought we were having fun. We were having fun. But then James
and I did get into an argument, but there was no physical assault. I was not bleeding and they didn't
have to get out of the car and separate us. So that didn't happen. That's all I'll say on that.
But I yeah. And I guess for the record, James has never physically hurt me or assaulted me.
And we're good. We're happy. He's working on himself. I know in the past that he has anger
issues, so I get it, but I just want people to know that I'm good and I'm safe and I love him.
And yeah. Was that during a time when he was still drinking? Yeah, he was still drinking.
Yeah. We were all drunk in the back of that car. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But nothing happened
like physically. I mean, we went to Tom Tom. Were
you there that night? No. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we showed up at Tom Tom and we had fun. It was like
a good night. Was that one of the reasons that made him stop drinking? Just having those type
of moments and seeing that he's obviously not the best version of himself when he's drunk?
seeing that he's obviously not the best version of himself when he's drunk. Yeah, I think that was still so in the beginning that I didn't. I don't think that that was like the moment or like
the night when we were like, OK, drinking is not. Yeah, great. But yeah, like similar just like we
would just we would fight when we would drink. Me, too. I mean, I would drink and pick up, you know,
like it's just when you drink that much and in those environments, not great. Yeah. That's not who we really are. And so, yeah, like that's an
example, though, of just why he shouldn't drink. Right. You know, but yeah. Yeah. Obviously,
with, you know, Teddy and Tamara saying one thing on their podcast, Raquel has alluded to certain
things. Kristen has alluded to certain things. So obviously people care about you.
I know, I know.
And you know, if there was a concern for your safety,
people are going to care and reach out
and want to know how you're doing.
So I just wanted to give you a safe space to-
Yeah, no, thank you.
Because I didn't know, I'm like,
do I like go on my Instagram and be like,
I'm good guys.
Like, I don't know how to like navigate
these types
of things. And this is something that's very serious. And I do appreciate everyone worried,
worried about me, but I do want everyone to know I'm good. Good. Thank you. Okay. Moving on to
a little lighter of a note to wrap things up a musical note you can say because you have such a beautiful
voice I saw Vanderpump Rules Party I think yesterday the day before I posted a video of you
singing and the Bob Marley one yeah that's not oh incredible but what are your plans to maybe make
some use of you know your in-home studio? Is there going to be music coming out soon?
Yes, there is going to be music coming out soon. Yeah, this year I started singing again,
which has been really fun. I always did it as a hobby. But yeah, we have a friend who, you know,
has a studio and he's an amazing guy. And so we've just been like making music together.
It's like the three of us, me, James and Jordan. And it's been so fun. It feels so good. Like, yeah, I just didn't like there's no pressure on it. I'm not trying to like have this career in singing. I'm very happy with astrology, but it just like, you know,
we don't have to take it that like it's fun. It's something that we enjoy doing.
Yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, you have such a beautiful voice. So I definitely think we have to do a duet. I'm so down. Let's do it.
Okay. Speaking back to astrology, if you could do a reading for anyone in the Bravo world,
is there one person who comes to mind? Ooh, honestly, Lisa's, which that's cool. Cause
that one's probably likely I could probably learn that one. Yeah, Lisa. Because she's such a...
I would just love to see her chart in terms of business and how she's just such a businesswoman.
She's awesome.
Or Andy Cohen's would be cool.
I think he's got some Gemini, which totally makes sense with the entertainment journalist in him.
Totally.
I love that.
What about you?
I know.
Whose chart do we need to see? Right? I feel like Andy would be a good one. Andy would be cool. Totally. I love that. What about you? I know. Whose chart do we need to see?
Right? I feel like Andy would be a good one.
Andy would be cool.
Totally. He's such a fun, light-spirited, hearted person. I love his energy.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah. Always a good time.
You got that Gemini rising too. That's why you guys.
Yeah. It's true.
Light-hearted and fun.
Generally speaking, what is in the stars for 2024? Will it
be a good year, a bad year, a year of growth? Any insight you can leave the listeners with?
Okay, definitely a good year, you know, compared to the last few that we've had,
we're still kind of shifting out of like, you know, the pandemic and a good year, but a lot of quick growth and transformations
and evolving. So, you know, with change that can be scary, but if we accept the lessons and learn
and grow, then, then we'll be good. There's just a lot of Pluto went into Aquarius and that's a
really big deal astrologically because that hasn't happened since the birth of our country.
Wow.
astrologically because that hasn't happened since the birth of our country wow so yeah so big big transformations and a lot of like power to the people and things like that so that's exciting
and then Jupiter is going into Gemini so that's what I heard was it in Taurus but now it's going
in Gemini yes so it's in Taurus right now and it's going to be there until May the end of May
you're gonna have a great, yeah, seriously, because
it's also hanging out on your sun right now. So it's already like Jupiter expands things. And so
it's expanding your sun and it's expanding your opportunities. But then when it goes into the
first house, it's like, yeah, you're going to be next level. A lot of opportunities, lots of travel,
going to be busy. What's new? Yes. That's not stopping anytime soon.
But yeah, new beginnings, a new chapter.
It's like you're starting this whole new cycle.
Yeah.
I love that.
Excited for you.
Thank you.
Thanks for getting into some shenanigans with me.
Tell everyone where they can get a reading with you, please.
Oh, okay.
So you can, it's my website, which is www.allylouber.com.
And I am going to start posting reading availabilities, hopefully every last Sunday
of the month going into the next month, if that makes sense. So I'm going to like fresh out my
readings and have availability every month. Awesome. And I will link your website and
everything too. It's been hard to like, I'm grateful because I'm getting booked, which is
amazing, but it's hard and it's a lot of energy. Like I can only do so many a day. And I will link your website and everything too. It's been hard. I'm grateful because I'm getting booked, which is amazing. But it's hard. And it's
a lot of energy. I can only do so many a day. And so I'm trying to figure that all out. But stay
tuned. I love it. Keep it busy. Thanks, guys.
Well, thank you so much for being here. Thank you.
Thank you guys for listening and watching. Definitely hit up my girl,
Get A Reading. I will link it in the show notes and on this video if you're watching.
But yay.
That was fun.
Let's have a good 2024.
Let's go.
Bye.
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