Small Town Murder - #456 - Horrors In The Graveyard - Pawtucket, Rhode Island
Episode Date: January 13, 2024This week, in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, a long, booze & drug filled day ends with a strange interaction at the cemetery, that leaves a local woman's head, completely crushed by a tombstone.... It's a cold & awful act, made worse by the weak attempts to get away with it, and their even worse attempts at trying to blame each other. Will the punishment fit the hideous crime, or will they continue to be criminals??Along the way, we find out that when you think Rhode Island, you should think of Chinese dragon boat races, that a cemetery is creepy place to have sex, and that when you're both terrible people, blaming each other won't help!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: crimeinsports@gmail.comGo to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Let's go on a trip, shall we?
Yeah, we shall.
We are going to Rhode Island today.
Our smallest state.
And we're going to Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Is that right?
Yes.
Which the only reason I ever knew that existed as a child was that was where the Red Sox AAA was.
So if you'd see baseball cards on the back, guys that play for the Red Sox, they'd have stats from Pawtucket. And I'd be like, where the Red Sox AAA was. So if you'd see baseball cards on the back,
guys that played for the Red Sox,
they'd have stats from Pawtucket,
and I'd be like, where the fuck is that?
It's in Rhode Island, as you might know here.
It's about 45 minutes to Boston.
So they get, I remember I've been here,
they get all the Boston news, and it's all Boston.
Oh, God.
Everything right there gets all Boston all the time.
It's all Boston, yeah.
It's overwhelmingly Red. Oh, God. Everything right there gets all Boston all the time. It's all Boston, yeah. It's overwhelmingly Red Sox country.
About 30 minutes to Foster, Rhode Island, which was our last episode, episode 395, not answering the call of duty.
And everything in Rhode Island is pretty close.
It's all going to be 30 minutes, 30 minutes, because the state is the size of your backyard, pretty much.
And you don't even have a big lot. It's Phoenix. But that's about how big the state is. size of like your backyard pretty much and you don't even have that big you don't even have a big lot it's phoenix so yeah but that's about how big the state is it's tiny not
not big population of this town right now is 75 200 when this happened wow a lot less so we'll
talk about that median household income here 56 427 which is below the national average by more than $10,000.
Median home price here, $322,600.
Who knew Pawtucket was so affordable?
Yeah, I mean, nowadays, yeah, that would be affordable.
In comparison to fucking everywhere else in New England.
Yeah, that's incredible.
Yeah, to be within driving distance of Boston, if you could work there.
And it's not bad the motto here join the evolution
not revolution evolution okay that's they're getting fancy there fuck does that mean or
their other motto is you may have heard of us on family guy which is the other one so
not quite as as far reaching but I think that think that's the minor league baseball team shirt you got me.
I think it's the Pawtucket Clam Suckers or Clam Eaters.
That's what it is.
It's the Pawtucket Clam Eaters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The name Pawtucket is an Algonquin word for river fall.
So there you go, if you wonder why they named it that.
The first settler was a guy named Joseph Jenkins Jr.
That's too many Js.
Joseph Jenkins Jr.
He came to the region from Lynn, Massachusetts, bought a bunch of acres of land in the 1600s,
made a sawmill and a forge, and then the entire town was destroyed during the King Philip's War.
Yeah, that's right.
King Philip's War. King Philip was pissed. Apparently, he was all sorts of pissed off. destroyed during the king philip's war oh yeah that's right during our king philip's war king
philip was pissed apparently he was all sorts of pissed off and just wiped out pawtucket and
said no more pawtucket we won't have it anymore so you know when that happens here so other
settlers followed and they started planting shit and building shit and they made ships here and uh
all that sort of thing by the 1920s it was a mill town
one of these mill towns you know all sorts of factories and stuff had a half dozen movie
theaters two dozen hotels and a lot of nice stores and houses and it was a a nice nice place actually
sure because it's close to the fucking ocean they had a an ornate movie palace called pawtucket's
million dollar theater
also that they built that was a big deal now some reviews of this town let's see here this is a
weird one for five stars five stars a local italian restaurant that are the homeliest atmosphere in
the world along with retro music players at each booth and the most delicious chicken parmesan in the world.
Five stars, Pawtucket.
That's Pawtucket.
The whole place is an Italian restaurant
where they come around with accordions and mandolins
while you eat chicken parmesan.
And play, what did he say, pop?
I don't know.
I didn't understand a lot of that
because this person, I don't know, English isn't their first language of that because this person, I don't know.
English isn't their first language.
Playing all your pop favorites on a mandolin.
Retro music players at each booth is what they say.
So I think they come around and play shit.
Play old-fashioned shit for you probably on a mandolin or something.
That's annoying.
I'm trying to fucking eat.
That is interesting here.
Three stars.
I feel like Pawtucket slash Providence gives you this code of everything.
Okay.
I don't know.
Is there shit in the water?
I don't know if there's like nuclear sites where they store nuclear waste and it's getting into the groundwater.
I don't know what's going on, but this is really confusing.
Gives you this code of everything.
It's hard to explain.
I guess so, because that makes no sense.
Give it a run.
You better give it a whirl, because I have no idea what you're talking about.
If you can't explain it, don't put it out publicly.
You're not ready for publication.
Don't bring it up.
It's not ready yet.
Prepare your press release and then put it out.
This is crazy.
It's hard to explain.
It's one of those places where you have to be in the moment.
I'm going to read.
You're getting even more vague by the second, my friend.
Wow.
I feel like Pawtucket gives you this code of everything.
It's hard to explain.
It's one of those places where you have to be in the moment.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, a goddamn thing.
I don't know what you're talking about.
That sounds like a code that I don't have the decoder ring for at all.
Also, you can't forget about the history of Providence and the great, wonderful things we have and do.
That's like a World War II message that needs to be decoded.
Like, you know, the gray fox rises at dawn.
You're like, that's not right.
Is that a warning?
Like, we're pretty badass around here.
You come around here, we're going to fuck you up.
Maybe.
You never know.
Who the hell knows?
Are they drunk?
What's going on in this town?
You guys do clam chowder great, and you drink Sam Adams and Dunkin' Donuts.
You do the same shit Boston does.
Stop it.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
You're not special.
Here's one star now.
In the past year, the crime rate has increased tremendously, which I looked, and that's not actually a fact.
Yeah, the police do their job, but it doesn't stop people from committing more crimes.
Well, that's everywhere.
Well, yeah, you can't.
No one's going to go to their houses and go, hey, don't do that.
We wait till after they do it.
And if they're then getting arrested, I don't know what else you really want from from society at that point.
We've we're trying our best.
It makes everything unsafe and people are starting to feel uncomfortable going out at nighttime.
Okay.
That person sounds 90 years old.
Yeah, be terrified.
I don't know what to tell you.
That sounds like a 90-year-old person is what that sounds like.
Things to do.
Okay, here we go.
This is exactly what you'd expect, obviously, when I read this.
The Rhode Island Chinese Dragon Boat Races and Taiwan Day Festival. The what? Right? obviously when i read this the rhode island chinese dragon boat races and taiwan day festival
the what right it's all a code jimmy it's hard to explain you have to be in the moment we embrace
chinese uh taiwanese culture around here that review is making more sense by by the moment here
join the thousands of people who attend every year for great entertainment, exciting competition, family
fun, and a prime opportunity to learn more
about Chinese and Taiwanese cultures
with dragon boat races.
I had no idea.
I don't know anything about. They're looking for
both for club teams
looking for a challenge and amateur
corporate teams looking to do
team building.
That sounds so expensive. you have to have a boat
apparently i have there's also a dumpling eating contest
so you can do that i'd like to see that on inside me i'd like to see it on a boat that would be fun
loser has to walk the plane and then there is a yo-yo performance someone will perform
yo-yo tricks that is very fun there-yo tricks. That is very fun there.
So that's things to do.
And lion dancers, which I think are the people that put the lions on.
The big lion costume.
Yeah, the long ones.
Yeah, one of those deals there.
Long lion dragon things.
All right.
Yeah, and then they have races too, probably.
And then try to eat as many dumplings as they can.
That said, let's talk about some murder here.
Let's do it. All right. Let's talk about some murder here. Let's do it.
All right.
Let's talk about just a strange group of people here.
Okay.
Oh.
Let's go back to 1993.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
We were just talking about 1993 before we started, too.
Yeah.
Exactly 1993.
What a time.
Very interesting here.
So 1993 put in action here.
Let's all put our mindsets there.
Put your cell phones away.
Nothing but Jordan and McDonald's commercials.
Oh, Jordan trying to sell you Gatorade and everything else.
Michael Jordan sold you everything.
Well, he and Larry Bird played horse.
Yeah.
Incredibly.
You drink your Gatorade while eating your mcdonald's and wearing your haines
and fucking and dunking with your nikes that was what a what a time what a what a story mark so
let's meet let's meet a young man who's 17 years old at this at this point in 93 so a guy like that
would have been you know almost almost like in high school when we were in high school.
Like you would have been like a senior when we're freshmen or whatever.
So you're a freshman and I'm a sophomore.
I don't know what the fuck.
So either way, 17, I think two years apart.
Yeah.
So his name is Bradley Kryla.
K.R.Y.L.A.
Cool name.
Sounds like it's missing some letters.
Honestly, it's a valor sounds like
sounds like a material you make like tactical shit out of yeah somebody like has shiny pants
and you're like those are cool what are those other kryla yeah you should get them no they're
stretchy but they don't shrink it's really nice it's a good fabric yeah kryla there's a lot of
places to put pocket knives yeah it's awesome now, Bradley Kryla, he was born six weeks premature, which a lot of people are.
That's a range where it could be.
That's early, though.
It's early.
My daughter was a month early.
Really?
Yeah.
She was a month.
My wife at the time almost died.
She had the thing where the blood pressure goes up, and they had to induce her.
It was like, hey, we're going to induce you or you're going to die.
Which one would you like?
So, yeah, she was there.
This guy, he's born six weeks prematurely.
Only weighed three pounds, six ounces, though.
That's a little light.
Those last six weeks are—
I think there's a lot of growing going on in there.
Boy, do you.
Yeah.
There's a lot of—
If you double every few weeks and you're a fucking sperm, it takes a little bit to get to the end part.
It's like a 401k.
Yeah.
The last few years, you really suck it away.
It pumps it up pretty quick at the end there.
That's how this works, too.
So, yeah, things form.
They harden up in the last six weeks as far as skulls.
Specifically bones.
Brains also of that sort of thing.
And his brain did not develop normally.
Really?
Bradley, no.
He had, and this is, I don't know how to explain this,
but several bumps on his head damaged the left frontal region.
He's got big bumps on his head.
Holy.
He wasn't developed.
He wasn't done cooking yet.
No.
He's like a cookie that isn't quite, you know what I mean? It little gooey in the middle still you want that you want that crisp that's yeah um and
that's the region that controls decision making so he's obviously gonna have a hard time growing up
here sure by age four this brain damage he started to get severe migraine headaches by age four and had them throughout just and at
four you can't describe that no just my head hurts really bad and please turn the light off would be
all which is weird from a four-year-old and when i say things don't reply do not talk just a cold
washcloth over his forehead like turn please turn the light off while he lays there on a
on a fucking daybed you're like what's going on here turn the light off and don't say a
fucking word like a lady who's had too much wine by four you know what i mean why my four-year-old
just told me not a fucking word why is there a box of wine in the garbage what's going on
so this kid obviously has a little bit tough. Um, in school, he had attention problems.
Sure.
No attention span and concentration problems.
And obviously,
uh,
trouble with his decision-making because his brain is damaged as well.
Not a good learner here.
Um,
by 17,
he's,
he's got a pretty good stutter going on.
Number one.
And he can't understand or recite the Pledge of Allegiance properly.
At what age?
At 17, which if you are not from America, if you are not outside the United States, in school every single day, the Pledge of Allegiance is said before classes start.
So it's literally he's been in school since he was five and has not learned this.
He's heard it every single day.
And it's so that's that's something right there.
One doctor said, quote, he can't function like you and me.
Yeah.
Got some problems here.
He's got a friend also.
So he's got a buddy also so he's got a buddy though by 17 and his buddy's name his buddy's
his buddy is of average intelligence and uh i think he you know his skull was formed properly
so he's got a buddy with a fully formed skull we're really uh our expectations at this point
are just do you have a fully formed skull or not? Have you got a skull?
That's where we are in this story, and it's only going to sink and sink.
So his name is Derek Brown.
He's 17.
That's his buddy.
So we got Derek Brown, and we got Bradley Kryla.
And he knows all the pledge.
He knows it all, yeah.
He's trying to teach it to Bradley, but it's not quite sticking.
Walking him through it.
Now, these two, they end up seeing on one evening uh they know of this woman and they end up conducting we'll say i guess attempting to conduct business
with her one evening her name is sherry a roy and i'm like what's she do roy roy like goldie hawn
says and overboard she's 29 at the time okay now let's talk about sherry a little bit though back
when she was 18 this is yeah now what 11 years earlier so we're talking 1982 sherry roy according
to police um sherry when she was 18 she was living with her grandmother ag Agnes Beck, who is 75 years old at the time.
And during a quarrel at 1040 at night at grandma's house here, she the grandmother sustained a large bruise over her right eye because Sherry hit this 75 year old woman in the face with her fist she punched grandma in the eye at
18 she hit grant with a left she's got a hell of a left actor with a fucking yeah that is that's
wild imagine punching your grandma in the eye think about that think about how crazy well my
grandmother would stab me if i punched her in the eye that would have been a that's a fight at that
point my grandmother is suffering from dementia at a level that i can't fathom jimmy go over and just
fucking rock her rock her if i rocked that old lady she would beat the piss out of me
because at this point she wouldn't even recognize me as a loved one
yeah she's willing to be the piss oh that crazy son of a bitch just hit me she's scared you're robbing her to begin with so she's gonna be on guard this is like you i i hope everybody
when i said she put at 18 years old punched her 75 year old grandmother in the eye i hope everyone
went jesus holy shit that's uncalled for that's wild because that is wild um to the point where
her mother uh not not the grandma's mother, obviously.
We're talking grandma's daughter, Sherry's mom.
She called police to say, hey, we got a problem over here with this whole thing.
My daughter just punched my mother in the face.
Socked her in the eye.
Socked her in the eye, fucked her up.
The cops came and arrested her for it because you can't punch
old ladies that's like as bad as it gets right there yeah that's the that's like a oh what are
you gonna go punch old ladies that's you know so she was released on her own recognizance here and
she was charged with assault on an elderly person over 60. And there we go. Yeah.
And she's also her grandmother is also handicapped as well.
So, yeah, because she's 70, 75 year old handicapped woman. She said, fuck you, grandma, and punched her in the eye.
Fuck you, granny.
That's crazy.
That's the old David Clark didn't even punch Aunt Edna.
And he had every reason.
Oh, man.
I mean, yeah, at least a little like oh i hit
her with an elbow i'm sorry were you there i didn't see you didn't even trip her this broad
just said what's up bitch pow now by 1993 she's 29 years old she has two daughters by this time
about six and about eight at this moment in time her daughter's ages are she's also a pretty ravenous drug addict and a
quote this is from the local police quote a known local prostitute as well okay so it's not going
well it's going as well as you'd expect it to go for someone who punches their grandmother in the
eye when she's they're fucking 18 she's obviously got some kind of issues going on here um that sounds like a drug husband yeah i didn't hear husband in there and uh she has two children
from early 20s so it's going tough in her late 20s she's got two children that's not easy no it's
not at all i don't know if she needs a husband probably that might help i know i'm just saying
a teammate while you have a drug problem might help. Yeah.
That's those people usually split, though.
That's not.
Yeah.
Drug addicts tend to they tend to just drive a wedge in relationships.
They tend to make their own teams on their own.
You know, just me.
So August 23rd, 1993.
It's a nice summer night in 1993.
Think about what we were doing in a nice summer night in 1993.
It was something nicer
than this. We'll put it that way.
This is at the Mineral
Springs Cemetery. This all goes
down. What? Yes.
This is a city-owned cemetery.
It's a small grassy
knoll and it's known
by, this is from a newspaper, as
quote, hangout for drug addicts and prostitutes
oh they all very nice congregated the cemetery we're almost here because it's a public place
i guess they're allowed to be there so uh that night here uh bradley derrick and sherry come
together and uh you know they all converge together here
and emerge from a dark alley and end up in a cemetery together.
So here is a guy named Junior Green.
Junior is his first name.
Fantastic.
It's going well for him as well.
He is a friend of Bradley,
and he said that Bradley drank malt liquor with him all day on the on august 23rd and they had smoked
marijuana together so okay they're smoking weed and they drank 40s is what they had actually yeah
brad drank about 340s that day which is a lot jesus fucking that's we grew up in high school
drinking 40s and malt liquor's fucking strong and 340s will knock your ass down you think it's oe
or mickey's it's one of the two, though.
Maybe, maybe.
I don't know.
This guy probably crazy horse.
He's going with that, which tasted like piss.
That shit was nasty.
Steel Reserve.
Oh, man.
St. Ives was nasty, too.
So now back to Sherry.
Sherry has a roommate named Harold Strobel,
and he saw her about 10 p.m. that night.
He said that he spent the day with her and that she left the house intending to purchase cigarettes at about 10 p.m.
So she said, I'm going to go out and grab some cigarettes. And that was she.
He said last time he saw Sherry, she was headed in the direction of the cemetery that night. Last time she saw her walking away from the house that night. Now, she entered the cemetery with the two of these kids, Derek Brown and Bradley Kryla, about 10 p.m.
After they offered her crack cocaine.
Perfect.
They said, would you like some crack?
And she said, absolutely.
I was just going for cigarettes, but that sounds much better.
So they said, sure sure let's go into the
cemetery which is where everybody goes to smoke crack apparently in this town so uh and roy too
it's not been going well for her she's been arrested twice in the last year on prostitution
charges so oh yeah this is this is not a once in a while thing if you're getting arrested a lot that
means you're that's your profession i I mean, you're doing it.
You're doing it way more than you're getting arrested.
Totally.
That's what I mean.
So the boys, they show up.
They've been drinking, smoking weed and doing coke all day long.
The two of them.
So, yeah, they're boof.
So apparently there was some form of and we'll find out exactly what happened.
But there's some form of disagreement in the distribution of sexual favors here.
Oh, yes.
Because this is that's going to be the transaction here is, you know.
Oh, sexual favors for the coke.
For the coke.
Yeah.
That's how that's how this is supposed to work.
So when apparently she resisted something that was going on, they began punching and beating her with sticks.
What?
Punching and beating her with sticks. What? Punching and beating her with sticks.
So she was struggling to crawl away from them as they punched her and beat her with sticks.
So one of them, and we'll find out who and exactly what happened here, picked up a two foot tall, 77 pound tombstone.
Oh, my God.
That was loose.
They grabbed a loose fucking gravestone.
A marker of a dead body.
Yeah.
And beat her with it.
And picked it up high and dropped it on her skull.
Holy shit.
Which completely shattered her fucking skull and crushed her brain.
Obviously.
That's enough.
Her brain is now worse than Bradley Kryla's.
Yeah.
It's bad times. This is. That'sless. Yeah, it's bad times.
This is that's horrible.
Wow.
That's a hard.
Imagine doing that to some.
Imagine picking up a 77 pound fucking giant a gravestone for Christ's sake.
Right.
Let's not even talk about the moral aspects of taking someone else's graves gravestone away.
But then using that to crush a woman's skull because she didn't fuck you how
you wanted for crack for crack for crack this it gets seedier with every level you say that yeah
it really does the bottom layer is real gross it's fucking disgusting so junior green back to
him again his girlfriend girlfriend Paula Gall.
Does anyone have a good name in this entire thing?
And this is coming from a Petra Gallo, so I'm not sniping on names.
Trust me.
Junior Green is dating Paula Gall.
Paula Gall.
She said that Kryla and some other guy she didn't know came over to the house.
That would be Derek Brown that night.
They showed up later on after midnight covered in blood.
Hi, guys. How you doing after midnight covered in blood. Hi guys, how you
doing? Covered in blood here.
Popped over to a friend's house
covered in blood. I feel bad for Junior
because if you're Junior and you're hanging out with
your girl at your house and then your buddies pop
over at midnight, that's not cool anyway.
And then they're covered in blood.
You got a lot of explaining to
do later on. I'm telling you that.
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She said that that Bradley looked nervous and was blinking often, which who knows why that could be for anything.
And and she found it odd that this is
this is amazing she found it this is the most 1993 shit ever she found it odd that he didn't
laugh when she joked about aids as he washed it was a good joke he didn't even laugh
it wasn't even offensive nothing so i don't even know i didn't even imply gay anal sex not even a
little bit so now bradley's got a girlfriend by the way and I've said this many times guys who are out there
and they're complaining they can't get any girls and all this type of shit his brain didn't even
his skull isn't even correct here and he's got a girlfriend so I don't want to hear your shit
there's somebody out there you got to work for it that's right so uh his girlfriend is Giselle Doval-
He got a Giselle?
Giselle Doval-Romento.
She sounds hot as fuck.
Do-Liv-Romento.
Do-Liv-Romento.
That sounds like a hot woman.
Giselle Do-Liv-Romento.
How did he get a Giselle?
It sounds like she's married to a soccer player that makes a lot of money.
She's a smoke show.
I guarantee it.
And his sister, Bradley's sister, Natalie, lives with Giselle.
OK, now Natalie says that that's the sister that Derek Brown and Brad came over to their house here and that Giselle washed their sneakers and threw Derek Brown's jeans away.
So not only are you dating a Giselle,
she's the down-ass bitch.
She's like, I'll wash the blood out of your sneakers.
That's wild.
Your smoke show is also a ride or die?
Get out of here.
This is wild.
Natalie said Bradley's eyes were very bloodshot
and he looked pale and vomited soon after arriving.
Yeah.
Bloody, pale and vomiting.
He just murdered a woman.
Bloody, pale, vomiting and not laughing at AIDS jokes.
There's something wrong with this guy.
I'm telling you right now.
And she's still washing his clothes.
Unbelievable.
Unreal.
So the next morning at 8 a.m., a neighborhood woman is walking her dogs through the cemetery as she does on a morningly basis.
And she finds the partly clothed body of Sherry Roy there, beaten, battered and indistinguishable facially.
Like her head is so fucked up that they can't even recognize her.
The local cops, when they get there, they know her.
They arrest her all the time. They't even recognize her. The local cops, when they get there, they know her. They arrest her all the time.
They didn't recognize her.
So that says something about what they did to this fucking poor woman.
That's horrible.
The medical examiner who performed the autopsy said that there were abrasions and scrapes
over a large portion of her left facial area.
Her shoulders had numerous abrasions on both the right front and right back.
There was a bruise and a crescent defect in the area of her left ear,
and there were numerous other abrasions covering her body.
Also, she suffered substantial internal damage.
He describes her brain and brain stem as having being pushed into small
bits and pieces, quote unquote.
Good God.
Brain and brain stems squished into small bits and pieces and that the base of her brain
had been, quote, obliterated and that the area where the brain sits was just pried right open
so the fracture defect area went from the top right through the nasal bone area.
They crushed her skull from the back to the front.
The back of her fucking brain hit her nose.
Oh, my God.
That's disturbing.
That's fucked up, man.
That's not just dropping.
That's driving 77 pounds into somebody
from over your fucking head.
And also, the doctor will later
say that, or will say here, that Sherry
was still alive when the
tombstone injury occurred.
Jesus. She was alive. They were
beating her within inches of her
fucking life and then did that to her.
She was still crawling.
Detectives, though, this is some handy dandy police work for 1993 detectives were able to lift fingerprints from not only the tombstone yeah but also a broken tree limb that was they believed
was used to beat roy great that's good police work back then. No shit. Back then they used to say, like before DNA was everything, they used to say like your department's fingerprint guy really makes or breaks a lot of things.
Because not all fingerprint people are created equal.
Like some of them are really good at pulling prints off of shit that other people aren't very good at pulling off of.
Give them worth the salt.
So apparently they got a good one over here.
So not bad.
Good for him.
So the detectives, they work 65 straight hours to figure out to do this case.
At least they're not just saying, well, I don't know.
It's a crackhead and we arrested her for prostitution a bunch.
So fuck it.
Who cares?
That's what happens.
Whatever.
And then made an AIDS joke and walked away.
It's better that they actually were working
it. That's nice.
They were talking to everybody
in the neighborhood, people who frequently visit
the other crackheads is what they're talking to.
Everyone
that she knows, they talk to Harold. They try
to retrace her steps of how she might have got
there. One thing about
if someone is in this
line of lifestyle, it's difficult to trace them a lot
of times because they go places where no one can see them a lot and they interact with a lot of
people in a short amount of time which is yeah and the people that interact with their don't want to
discuss it they don't want to discuss it and a lot of them are on the shady side as well so that's
the other there's so many suspects to to deal with that's why the inner the fingerprints are so fucking
important so they finally learned that someone saw sherry enter the cemetery of the cemetery with
a couple of teenagers after midnight or around midnight somebody said which was really about 10
p.m they said that they were unclear exactly what was going on, but they did find out that one
of the suspects did know her from before.
He said they ran into her on the street, which is not uncommon in that area.
Sure.
Then they also learned from a neighborhood person who was wandering around that they
saw that two males, teenagers, were seen apparently running from the cemetery covered in blood at 1230 a.m.
That's a problem.
That's weird.
I'm those two guys.
I feel like we figured it out.
Running covered in blood from a cemetery at midnight.
Wow.
She probably also felt like this is the safest possible interaction she's about to have tonight.
It's two teenagers. Two teenagers. And we're doing this for crack. This should be in and out done.
Yeah. They'll take two seconds and I'll get some crack and it's over. Now I go get cigarettes.
Go get on my way. Yeah. I don't know. So during this investigation, the detective said he received two anonymous calls from a man who provided him with some information.
Then he asked the man to stop by the detective division and talk to him.
And the man he talked to was Bradley Kryla.
That's the guy who was calling.
Okay.
Yeah.
So this is August 26.
So three days later, his father, Bradley's father, told him that the police were looking for him.
He said because he had borrowed a funnel from a gas station without paying for it.
So he stole a funnel from a gas station.
Yeah, that's not bar.
That's not shoplifting.
He said he was planning on bringing it back.
Okay.
But you used it.
It's a funnel.
Now it's not going to sold to somebody else now.
What did you run down it?
Because sometimes you can't get that shit out.
You can't get fucking brake fluid out of the grooves in a funnel.
I'm not paying for someone else's funnel.
Fuck you.
No.
So that way he thought he had to talk to the cops about that.
Later that day, Bradley and his girlfriend approached their apartment and saw a cop car parked outside the house.
They were like, uh-oh.
He said he didn't know whether police were looking for him because of the funnel or for other reasons.
That's terrible.
That's not great.
Everything from funnels to murder.
Could be anything in between.
Drugs, funnels, drugs, murder, all sorts of stuff going on.
Crazy. Yeah.
So he's told his girlfriend here.
He told Giselle to go on ahead of him to find out what's happening.
You go up and walk and see what they ask you.
You know, find out if they ask you about me.
Yeah.
So the officers handcuffed her and put her in the police car and drove away.
So she didn't come back with any answers.
They cuffed her.
and put her in the police car and drove away.
So she didn't come back with any answers.
They cuffed her.
He then said he waited for the officers to return to the spot because he decided he was just going to get this over with.
Okay, talking to them.
So this detective shows up at the apartment driving an unmarked police car.
He walks up to Brad Kryla, asks his name, and said,
Would you come with me to the police station? And Brad said, Sure. Hop in the car. He walks up to Brad Kryla, asks his name, and said,
would you come with me to the police station?
And Brad said, sure.
Hop in the car.
Let's do this.
They get to the police station here.
They put him in the detective's interrogation room,
and they're talking to him.
Then they have people waiting there.
They're bringing other people in at the same time.
They're bringing in Derek Brown. They're bringing Giselle sitting there. They're also bringing other people in at the same time. They're bringing in Derek Brown, Giselle sitting there, the whole
crew. So far they've done a terrific job.
Yeah, they really have.
They're talking to him.
Both of these idiots are going to make pretty
incriminating statements to the police here.
About each other or about themselves?
Themselves, each other, everybody. Oh, terrific.
But you can tell who's dumber because Kryla's
is a lot about himself and Derek Brown is like, oh, it's all that guy, which is kind of not believable.
So they videotaped Kryla's statement.
He said he remained very calm and he describes the crime in great detail.
And at one point in the middle of describing how they horribly and brutally murdered a woman, he said he's very hungry.
Oh, just starving.
Just really could use a nosh before I talk more about this woman's crushed skull i mashed a headstone into a woman
guy's got a cheeseburger around here i mean what doesn't that make you hungry it's wow he's got a
vending machine there's something i can get um one of the detectives said he was very cooperative
he admitted that he was in the cemetery with another male he admitted hitting the girl well that's pretty much all you need at that
point because she's dead he said that he drank beer and played video games with his friend that's
junior in pawtucket and that evening after he consumed about three to four 40 ounces jesus christ uh he said that he and another teenager split it was they split 640 so
who knows this is what it was he said we were trashed that was his i would say so he said also
he tells the detective that he tried cocaine for the first time that night oh and he said his whole
body was numb okay yeah that's about right and
he said he accompanied derrick brown to west avenue where they met up with sherry roy who they said was
trying to find drugs she was like who's got fucking coke right so now he said that he admits
that he's a drug dealer but he also said he never tried cocaine before. He's been selling it, but he never gave it a whirl until tonight.
Don't believe you there.
You're a liar.
So he said he agreed to provide her with drugs in exchange for sex.
That's the transaction.
So, yeah, except secretly Kryla and Brown here, Brad and Derek, got together and agreed with each other.
They made a plan that they're like, we'll let her do, you know, we'll let all the fucking happen.
But then we're going to bounce and not give her shit.
We're going to stiff her on the drugs.
That was their plan to stiff this lady.
So which is which is fucked up.
I'm sorry.
Super fucked up.
On any level.
I don't care if it's like you're buying a two million dollar house and something was an escrow and you did a shitty deal or whether you go let's not let's let this lady
suck our dicks and then not give her the crack it's just scummy be a person of your word don't
go into a strip club and get lap dances and then argue that you got five songs and not six that's
what i mean pay and let the woman go for christ's sake be happy that
service is available to you it's amazing should be thanking your lucky stars you fucking misformed
skull-headed asshole so they walked into the cemetery to do this um at some point
here brad has sexual relations of some kind. I guess, I think, you know,
regular sex here
with her.
Brown suggested to Brad
that it's not good enough to just
walk away and not
give her the drugs. We should kill her as well.
What?
And this is what Brad's telling the cops.
And Brad said, yeah, you're right. He agreed.
So he's telling the cops that he agreed.
He said that he and Derek feared that Sherry would report this to other people, not to the cops.
Word would get around the neighborhood that they'll stiff a prostitute for crack.
And we can't let that get out.
Our whole rep will be ruined at that point.
We pay our bills. This is crazy. Yeah, we don't want to get out. Our whole rep will be ruined at that point. We pay our bills.
This is crazy.
Yeah, we don't want to get a bad reputation.
Our street cred rating is going to go down.
Yeah, that's the street credit rating.
It's not even street FICO.
Yeah, it's not street cred.
It's actual street credit.
So according to Kryla, he said, Derek Brown through the first punch.
And then Brad jumped in and started kicking Sherry.
He said,
soon Sherry's face was covered in blood and she was coughing and moaning on
the ground.
And he said,
in the course of all this,
he picked up a stick.
Brad did what he called or what they later called a substantial stick,
a good size one stick.
It's a fucking log. It's a fucking log.
It's a branch, a large branch, and used it to bash her in the face.
Wow.
Jesus Christ.
That is, I guess they said that she repeatedly kept trying to get back up again.
She kept fucking, that's a tough lady.
I mean, think about it.
That's a New England broad.
Yeah, they are tough as shit.
A New England street crackhead plastic dude? Yeah. She's tough, man. That's a tough lady. I mean, think about it. That's a New England broad. Yeah, they are tough as shit. A New England street crackhead plastic dude?
Yeah.
She's tough, man.
That's a tough lady.
She's on the street a lot.
She's taken this before, and she's willing.
She's about to deliver her blows next.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
She's tough.
And so they said she was really tough.
But each time, she'd get beaten down more by sticks and feet and fists.
Brad said, quote, she's not fighting us she's just fighting
to live i guess that was what they said they said was she like taking was she trying to attack you
back was she scratching at you and he said no she was just trying to get away from them trying to
crawl away to not die because their scumbags are beating her so it was fucking terrible so um they said that they were they were
in disbelief and really frustrated that she was still alive they're like what the fuck she won't
die so at that point brad said that derrick brown picked up the 78 and a half pound it wasn't 77
78 and a half pound tombstone and dropped it onto her head. Call it 80. It doesn't matter. It's it's a lot. It's disgusting.
Wow. So I guess he said that he had trouble running after her while he was carrying the headstone.
Even if it's very heavy. And they said that, yeah, he hit her with with the tombstone, left the tombstone lying over her face as well.
Smashed her with it and left it on top of her.
And then they ran from the cemetery covered in blood like idiots.
Now, Derek Brown, he said that Bradley administered the beating while he stood back and watched.
What's more believable?
We both did it equally or i stood back and watched while this
guy did it so yeah yeah he said that the only reason why he's here he said that he heard that
that cryla was being questioned by the police and he didn't want cryla to turn on him and say that
he did everything so he'd come in and he's going to implicate cryla yeah that's how we're doing him
to say i did everything so i'm here to say he did everything. That's it. He did it all.
Making it even more believable.
Yeah.
That's how it is.
He did everything.
He said that Kryla had consumed a lot of alcohol and a lot of drugs and that Kryla was in his own world that night.
And he said that Derek Brown basically is like not even like there in his diversion he's just
like this he's like a like a surveillance camera that's floating near them fly on the wall he's a
drone that watched the whole thing happen just to fly on the wall his eye in the sky that's all he
is I'm the security guard that watched from CCTV and did nothing yeah he's such a nice guy too he
said that Kryla was the one who spoke to
Sherry and that it was Kryla's idea to go
to the cemetery. He said he'd never been in the
cemetery before because he was, quote,
scared of the dark.
That's just a scaredy cat.
He's just a
scaredy cat.
Wait till you see Prison Man.
Wow. Scared of the dark.
All those monsters you think are in the cemetery?
I know where they really are.
Let's trade a prostitute crack for sex.
I'm scared of the dark.
Those two sentences don't go together.
Sorry.
We're going to fuck in the cemetery.
Yeah.
I'm terrified.
Terrified.
He said he only went there because Brad had told everyone to go in there brad is
really in charge obviously for a man with a scrambled noggin he's really man he's leading it
like we said about chris benoit the proof is in the pudding brain and uh so he brown said that
he just sat in the cemetery and watched as brad and sherry engaged in sexual intercourse which he stated was consensual
he said that he couldn't remember whether he also engaged in sexual intercourse with her
he can't a 17 year old can remember every girl that's ever accidentally rubbed on his dick as
she walked by are you kidding me are you that's what i mean every every last touching of my penis
is logged and locked and locked this is crazy to say that three days ago i can't remember if i had
my dick inside somebody at 17 is insane you you remember and you remember that because in a moment of loneliness you're
gonna tug to that that's exactly right this is a nut so yeah he said wow he said at that point
um after brad and sherry had gotten finished he said they began to argue and that's when it all
started he said he didn't know why he said he didn't know why they
were fighting but he did hear um he heard that he heard it mentioned that uh roy asked brad for
some kind of drugs like blow or coke or something and at that point that's when brad started beating
her up and then picked up a tombstone and began pummeling her with the tombstone. He said he was standing
next to Sherry at that time and
she reached out for Derek Brown,
grabbed onto him and cried,
help me, help me.
And he said that he responded
by pushing her away.
Wow.
He said that he recalled that
Sherry was covered in blood as when he when he pushed her
away and that her blood spilled onto his pants and shirt so that's how he got blood on him was
she came to him yeah obviously so he's trying to explain away his shit the other one wasn't
smart enough to figure out how to make a lie that's the only reason why this says she bled on
me like like brad pitt and fight club that's how yeah it was just you
know i was just on the side and he came to me and pulled himself up tripped me down and bled all over
my face yeah it goes according to brown sherry was trying to run but couldn't get away and he said
that he wasn't even there for the end of the beating derrick said he said i had decided to
leave while brad was still beating sherry he said as he was leaving he heard Brad yell to him and then they left together
and he said when they left he said Sherry was quote just lying there shaking
oh Jesus horrifying so they're both get fucking arrested obviously yeah yeah on charges that they
raped and killed a woman that's what
their charges are good charges yeah yeah i mean bad ones but that's the right ones yeah yeah yeah
seriously so they said they would uh they're gonna have they're they're in juvenile the juvenile
court but they're gonna try to transfer them to the adult court because they're 17 but i'm sorry
if you're trading fucking blow for sex and then you're 35 that's what i mean you're 42
you have an ankle bracelet on from fucking being in jail a while back you are five years behind in
child support i don't want to hear it you yeah you've fucked your life away for sure if you have
yeah you're an adult friend that you're yeah if you had a job, your wages would be garnished right now.
And you know it, for lack of child support.
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So the police said that, you know, they've been trying to rid the area of drugs and crime, but it hasn't happened, obviously.
So they're wondering what the fuck the motive was here, like, because they probably could have just got away from this lady.
You know, there's there's 17.
The one detective said there was really no clear cut motive, just said.
And neither of these kids have ever been in serious trouble before either.
This isn't like, you know, they've never tried to kill anyone before. So so this is a weird first crime but they've been tiptoeing down this lane for quite
some time yeah yeah being involved in the drug industry under underground like that for so long
you don't like you don't start selling drugs today and then tomorrow offer a prostitute crack for a
blowjob you know no no you know i mean you've been doing this a while that's down the road yeah
this isn't like a you know somebody owed the money so they attack this is like this is
insane this is just this is just exactly it's just dirty and gross so um his lawyer kryla's lawyer
is going to argue that he should get bail saying that his client was really intoxicated at the time
okay so there was no premeditation so it's at best you know it's at
best second degree or even lower maybe maybe manslaughter so we should we should do that
um why not now the attorney general here said that kryla was a bail risk saying that several years
ago his mother filed a complaint with the pawtucket police saying her son had threatened to kill her
but she later withdrew the complaint.
So they're like, you know, threatened to kill mom, dropped a tombstone on someone's head.
Let's just hang on to this guy for a while.
What do you say?
He threatened it and now he's done it.
Yeah.
Let's maybe do that.
He said that the police, though, they said that his detailed statements to police suggest
that he was not so intoxicated that he lost all use of his faculties because he remembered everything.
So he wasn't blackout, blackout, drunk or blacked out, whatever the fuck.
His evaluation here, they send him to a place to get evaluated to find out if he's able to stand trial.
They find out that he suffers from ADHD, which we figured he has several cognitive disorders, which, again, we knew about alcohol, marijuana and cocaine dependence.
So he definitely wasn't his first time doing it that night. Right. And also brain damage and migraines that exacerbate all of his problems.
They said one doctor said, quote, his condition
makes him like a very fast race car
that has no brakes in it.
Which seems
dangerous. They said the cognitive disorder
impairs his speech, critical thinking, and
decision making. But they say, we're still
going to hang on to him and charge him with murder.
Don't care. So
his whole defense is he's too
dumb to do this. Just too stupid to plan anything. I could never his whole defense is he's too dumb to do this.
Just too stupid to plan anything.
I could never figure this out.
He's too stupid to premeditate anything, they said.
They said he has diminished capacity, which is a specific legal terminology in Rhode Island for this.
He's too diminished to be able to plan anything at all.
Yes.
He couldn't plan his Taco Bell order on his way up to the drive-thru,
is what they're saying.
Like, he's not capable.
If he eats lunch, he's lucky that he ate.
Yeah, he didn't plan to eat it.
It was spontaneous.
I'm hungry, and he grabbed a sandwich.
He didn't leave the house going, I'm going to go to Subway,
and I'm going to get a turkey sandwich.
All right.
He's A to B.
Once you add C to the thing, anything could happen.
Gravestones are dropped on people's heads.
So the trial here for Kryla, it's for first degree murder.
He's got a jury of 10 women and four men, a couple alternates there.
Sure.
And he was being held at the at the juvenile facility.
But then they moved him to the adult facility because they're both going to be charged as adults.
Like we said now for diminished capacity,
they're trying to say they're not arguing that he's innocent,
but they're seeking a manslaughter conviction saying he had diminished
capacity that prevented him from forming the intent to kill that defines
murder.
They said his mental disorder combined with 80 to 120 ounces of malt liquor, two or three, quote, marijuana blunts, and between a half a gram and a gram of cocaine, all of which he claims to have consumed.
And there is proof that he did consume this.
Other people back it up.
On August 23rd, could trigger a complete loss of control.
They said he's incapable.
23rd could trigger a complete loss of control.
And I said,
he's incapable.
The standard for diminished capacity in Rhode Island is that mental impairment was such to quote,
completely paralyzed the will of the defendant to take him,
uh,
to take from him the power to withstand evil impulses and render his mind
incapable of forming any sane design.
Ranting,
raving,
drooling, snarling lunatic is what that describes.
All because he had, I mean, apart from the booze,
a right up the middle amount of something.
Yeah, I've seen people way more fucked up than that.
Yeah, that's a pretty good night of intoxication.
But the night that we did the 420 live show,
I mean, I consume more than that
than i mean minus the coke but i certainly put more of the coke evens out the booze that's the
other thing right that shouldn't sober you up a little bit that's what i'm saying that's why
people do coke and drink because you can do you can i was more like a gas and a clutch you can
yeah jimmy was way more you should have seen him eat a sandwich it was hilarious
way more fucked up i couldn't eat a sandwich. It was hilarious. Way more fucked up.
I couldn't eat a sandwich and watch a TV show at the same time, though.
So I don't know how this guy was able to figure out how to score a blowjob and then murder after it.
Wheel and deal.
Have sex.
Have sex also.
His dick worked.
Everything was fine there.
Now, the psychologists that they have say he has damage to the part of his brain that governs decision making and suffered from severe migraine headaches since he was four.
They do say his IQ for Kryla is 105, which is decent.
That's not bad.
That's average.
Yeah.
So they're like, that's not bad at all.
They said so he is hampered by the ADHD, though, and everything.
But that's weird, though.
Yeah, he can't do a
lot of things but he's also got a decent iq they said he can't concentrate or process information
or make decisions like ordinary people he can't stop that he can't stop acting impulsively or
think about what he's doing to stop and think about it um so he they you know they say all of that. That's their defense here.
So now they said that Kryla told the cop that he would talk about having sex and that when he saw how badly they had injured Sherry Roy, he knew they would have to kill her at that point.
When she stopped moving, Kryla told the detective that he couldn't bear to touch her.
And the prosecutor says, well, that indicates that he knew something wrong happened.
In my opinion, his will was not completely paralyzed.
He was not completely unable of forming any sane design.
Which, yeah, that sounds like he's putting two and two together.
Yeah, it feels like he's got regret.
That's what it is. Now, in a closing statement, the prosecutor said that they don't accept his excuse for a gruesome crime.
The defense said there is no excuse.
They said that it's not an excuse.
It's a, you know, he's got problems.
It's an explanation.
It's an explanation.
And the prosecutor said there's no excuse.
Tell him I don't accept your excuse. As the people of the state of Rhode Island, we don't accept his excuse.
That was first degree murder.
So the verdict, four and a half hours of deliberation.
And they were just trying to figure out whether it was murder or manslaughter here.
And they find him guilty of first degree murder.
Yeah. First degree murder yeah first degree murder yes um during sentencing they had sherry roy's family because her family still you know she wasn't like estranged
or anything like that she's got people around so people were saying that uh one one of their
her family members said that and this i don't like when they do this but she said
that violence is so rampant among teenagers that only the harshest punishment for offenders can
keep ever younger people from committing increasingly brutal crimes if you grew up in
the fucking if you were a teenager in the 90s like we were it was like target number one you guys
fuck you if they shoplift you have to put them in prison for five years so they don't have to shoplift.
It was crazy.
You got to make an example of them so that their friends know what's coming for them when they fuck up.
Yeah, and that didn't work.
And so we figured that out.
So then, but they did speak of how her daughters are growing up without a mother now.
And this is all legitimate stuff here.
They said, when Bradley Kryla took Sherry's life, he murdered the souls of her two children.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
They said she destroyed the whole family.
Her sister said, Mr. Kryla, when you flirt with the devil, you dance in hell.
Wow.
Holy.
Is that a Johnny Cash lyric?
It's certainly a lyric from something, right?
I think it is.
I think it is.
She whipped that right out.
True justice will be when Bradley Kryla meets his maker.
My goodness.
OK.
So they say you, sir, may fuck off life in prison.
But the prosecutors did not request life without parole because this happened when he was under 18 and there'd be an appealable issue at that point.
So he may begin to apply for parole
after 15 years so it's a 15 year minimum here now derrick brown he comes in and uh they have
all of the witnesses that they had in the trial it's the same people uh it's a severed trial but
same people giselle testifies saying that they came over. She washed blood off his heels, shoelaces, and soles of his sneakers in her bathtub, then asked her what happened.
He responded by telling her, quote, he thinks he killed a woman.
That's what he told Giselle, his friend's girlfriend there.
He told hot-ass Giselle that?
Told Giselle that shit.
That is wild.
So they also tried to attack the validity of the fingerprints.
That's part of the defense.
But there's so many people saying he was covered in blood.
It's really hard to deny any of this shit.
They also said that someone had a phone conversation with him later on,
and he told them that he had to lay low after what happened in the cemetery.
So that's not great.
Idiot. That's not not gonna work out well um giselle is like the star witness though because she washed the blood off and he told her about the you know about the blood uh she also mentions that
kryla asked her to clean his green sweatpants and sneakers and browns as well hey take all our
bloody shit and clean it she is so down you got
to be like you know in the mafia for years and have like a big house and a couple of cadillacs
to go home and tell your wife to wash the blood out of your clothes that's insane she's an actual
angel yeah carmela soprano will wash the blood out of your clothes because you know yeah because
she likes this house she likes this house and hasn't she just ordered new furniture but doesn't mind the ducks in the pool yeah this is bullshit this is nothing uh she also said that
when they were all in the police station together remember i said they all took them into the police
station together while they were waiting to go in brown looked over to giselle and said don't say
nothing or i'll kill you. Yeah.
Wow.
She said that police told her to not worry about that because he's getting locked up.
So he's not killing anybody.
Yeah.
So there we go.
That's how that worked. Now they bring in the medical evidence as well.
All these blown up photographs of the body and the face.
And that looks terrible.
That's hard i mean if you're a jury
and you have to look at a crushed skull and a mashed face like that it's uh it's a lot that's
yeah he does say though brown had called the police station the day after the body was discovered
and he identified himself and told the detective that he had seen two men going into the
cemetery with a woman not me but two other men there were some people and uh that night as she
was walking home the next day brown came to the police station and asked to speak with him he
added a bit to the story saying the two men had chased him to the division street bridge and
threatened him as well oh and then they were like well your friends in there telling us exactly what happened and then he was like oh yeah yeah he did all that shit not me
i watched so that's pretty fucking wild here um so uh another person said also they heard on the
street uh cryless say to brown come on derrick let's go rob her. So that part was rob her.
But they're getting sex.
So this premeditated as fuck, man.
Yeah.
And in the closing, his lawyer said he just watched Brad Kryla go crazy.
There was blood everywhere.
It upset him enough to call the police.
I suggest to you that no action Derek Brown took that night justifies convicting him of murder.
Okay.
Really?
The attorney general said, are you fucking kidding me?
Quote, the beating occurred over time and over an extended place, and that's important.
The beating site covered 103 feet.
Wow.
Because they kept beating her and she was crawling away for that far.
Oh, my God. Yeah. So they're like, come on. They said the struggles were a mess. wow because they kept beating her and she was crawling away for that far oh my god yeah so
they're like come on they said the struggles were a mess there's blood like actual you can tell
where she's been beaten many spots in this time too so they're like come on this is crazy um
yeah he said uh all hell is breaking loose in that cemetery and she's running and fighting for her
life and then looks at brown and says she's trying to get out of there and what or who is preventing it these fucking idiots
basically yeah yeah yep and uh they said by the way they're both even if everything he said in
the police interview is true they're both equally guilty it doesn't matter he said it makes no
difference who inflicted the injury they're both both involved in this. Neither stops the other. That's right. So this verdict comes
in. Three men, nine women on the jury
and they find him
guilty. Obviously he's going to be found guilty
of first degree murder
again. Yes.
Yeah. You sir
may fuck off. Life in
prison for you as well. Again
the prosecutors do not request
life without parole and um there so they
could have him too yeah but they didn't so he can apply after 15 uh sherry's sherry's dad alfred
said it makes me feel somewhat better that he's going to get something truth and sentencing is
what they need or capital punishment so there you go they said that um you know her parents said yes she had drug problems
she's been involved in prostitution but obviously she said they said she was a good woman and a
dearly loved daughter and uh the mother to two little girls and they said they're raising the
girls now yeah that's unbelievable that's wild so september 22nd 2010 derrick browns released on parole what yeah released on parole oh my god
that's that seems fast um wow uh the terms of his parole prohibit him from leaving rhode island
without his parole officer's permission and restrict him from drinking intoxicating beverages or using any drugs, obviously. So, January 7th, 2011.
Scant months later, he's driving on I-95 westbound near the Mill Street overpass when he lost control of his vehicle.
No. What?
Responding state troopers found the heavily damaged car on its roof with a young woman sitting outside the car,
bleeding from her ears mouth and head
oh my god they arrested brown as he ran from the scene eyes were bloodshot speech slurred when he
told a trooper he was trying to get help for his girlfriend he also did not cooperate with the
authorities in any way wouldn't take a breathalyzer um at the time by the way he's wearing a fucking
ankle bracelet.
Yeah.
Fucking GPS.
I mean, come on, dude.
You're not getting away.
Where are you running from?
Background check as they look at his bracelet and they go, let's find out what he's on for.
So they found out he was on lifetime parole after just being released from state prison on murder charges.
So he almost killed another woman.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
She's bleeding from multiple orifice
so they said that he is charged with operating a motor vehicle under the influence leaving the
scene of a personal injury failing to stop for police and refusing to identify himself with
police you sir may fuck off two and a half years in the dartmouth house of corrections he must serve
one year but after he's released from there,
he will be sent to the parole board
and then they get to do whatever they want
from there. And then they can
impose more sentence if they feel like it.
So June of 2011, Brad
Kryla graduates from college
in prison. Unbelievable.
He said, I'm the only person in my family
that graduated college. I want to
give back to the youth because I came in as a kid at 17.
I want to teach them to stay away from doing the things that will get them into trouble like alcohol and drugs.
You're a great role model.
And murder is the main one there.
Are you also the only one in your family who's been convicted of murder?
I'm the only one who got my prison degree while I was convicted of murder.
Wow.
May 2012, Brad gets early release as well.
Oh, my God.
And then he moved to Florida.
Really?
Which makes sense, honestly.
So he had to apply for it, and they let him.
And, yeah, they said, quote,
I don't think Floridians would find it amusing that we let murderers out after only 13 years.
Well, 2022, Brad is arrested here.
I found a good one for him.
This is recently May of 2022.
He's arrested.
He is arrested for retail theft, two counts, and also being an out-of-state fugitive while doing that, which is also not allowed.
So, yeah, he's going to have to deal with that in court, and that,
everybody, is Pawtucket, Rhode
Island. I hope
Derek's back in prison, man.
He's going to, because, again, now
the parole board, they have lifetime parole,
so anytime they want, if they get in trouble, the
parole board can go, well, here's another five years,
and throw him back in. Wow.
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