Some More News - Jan. 6 Redux, Twitter Gives Elon Musk Its Firehose, and EVEN MORE Bogus Recalls

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

Hi. Author and comedian Ginny Hogan (@ginnyhogan_) joins Katy and Cody to talk about what we can expect from the Jan. 6 House committee's public hearings, why Elon Musk STILL has no plans to buy Twitter, and how a billionaire developer thinks he can ride that Katy Perry bump to become the mayor of Los Angeles. Plus, the Supreme Court issued another bad ruling. Not even one of the bad ones we think are coming up! A separate one that is also bad. Check out Ginny Hogan's New Book: I'm More Dateable than a Plate of Refried Beans: And Other Romantic Observations Get our new BILLIONAIRES ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS merch here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews?ref_id=9949 Please fill out our SURVEY: HTTP://kastmedia.com/survey/ We now have a MERCH STORE! Check it out here: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news Give your skin exactly what it needs with Proven Skincare! Go to HTTP://ProvenSkincare.com to take the free Skin Genome Quiz and use code SMN for twenty dollars off your first order.Support the show!: http://patreon.com.com/somemorenewsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

why hello and welcome back to even more news the first and only news podcast my name is katie stole that's your name hi katie my name is cody the last name is johnston to my first name welcome to both of us to the show that we host welcome to both of us and welcome to our guest, return friend, writer and comedian, Jenny Hogan. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here. Jenny, you've been here before, so you know that we start with calling out the holidays. And today, June 9th, National Donald Duck Day. I don't have anything to say about that. Does that mean we celebrate Donald Duck?

Or does it mean we only wear shirts and no pants? I think it's really however you want to roll. Shirts and no pants sounds like a good idea. Oh, you guys are wearing pants? Oh, no. I just want to know if I also happen to be celebrating Donald Duck Day by being in my standard mode. I think that any way you want to observe it is totally fine. I do not see any notes on how this holiday should be observed.

So take off those pants, Cody. It's hot, right? It's hot in LA? It's very hot. It is very hot. I don't know. I'm not in LA right now. I think the National Today, NationalDay.com, whatever website I go to to find these, it was looking to fill out their, you know, their content.

And so they looked up the first appearance of every major cartoon character in existence. And this happens to be Donald Duck's. The wise little hen. Well, more importantly than Donald Duck, June 10th, the day of this release is National Bay Day. So go out and cuddle your your bay celebrate celebrate your bay neither of these holidays are very interesting but we thought this might be a good segue to talk to Ginny about her new book because of Bay's right yeah it's a good book to buy your bae yeah the title of her new book is called i'm more dateable than a plate of refried beans and other romantic observations uh and it's

all about the modern dating scene why is it so hard now why is the dating so bad jenny i think it's just everything is so bad yeah yeah yeah it just feels that doesn't yeah i accidentally dated someone a little bit racist a while back that was fun yeah i went on a lot of dates with someone who ended up being like pretty like he described himself as like a moderate and then like yeah like three dates and i was like you're a moderate republican and then like five days and i was like you're not even moderate you're just no yeah that's what we get for trying to have an open mind and dating outside of your bubble right yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah it's rough out there right there was all like every like few months i feel like there's like a piece or just like a

viral tweet whatever that means uh about how like oh uh the left libs don't want to date outside of their political sphere and stuff and like i don't think that's necessarily true but i also think that it's fine to uh prefer to date somebody who shares your values um at least the most of your values right you should have a foundation of your morals should be line up right and when you end up trying to not do that it doesn't work because you don't share the same values so like what's like i don't think that they would also say like well i i do that because i don't think that they would want to i don't know it's just silly to complain about yeah let me tell you this guy didn't like my politics anymore than i liked his so like what was the uh the indication that like the definitive he said that he doesn't think that white that black people get

killed more than white people by cops oh that's really bad it's really bad was he aware that it was like a higher rate and he was just going with raw numbers to try to make a point. Because of the population. He showed me a chart and I went, this isn't based on percentages of population. He's like, yeah, I thought you'd say that. I thought you'd say that. What?

These numbers are wrong. I always thought you'd point that out. You're such a stickler for things being true. I knew you'd say that's not how math works. Like it was this moment like out to dinner and he's like, all right, I might as well get this out in the open. It was like he hit it. You know, he hit this.

It didn't even come up in conversation. He brought it up. Oh, God. We were. Well, we it started off with I'd said something about Donald Trump being a rapist. And he said, did you say Donald Trump is a racist something about Donald Trump being a rapist. And he said, did you say Donald Trump is a racist? And I said, no, rapist.

But yeah, that too. That's how it started. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Did he like deny the first part too? Or? He just went, mm-hmm. Mm. Ah.

Oh, man. That was the reaction to that. well he has both of those things so yeah so there was more to this conversation we don't need to share with everybody but sure sure at dinner too and you're stuck waiting till the check yeah yeah man it was rough it was a rough night did he sorry did he pull out the chart at dinner yeah like on his phone he was like all right i gotta get this out of the way here's my oh my god oh i was hoping well guys followers of my twitter will know that i tweeted about being on a date with someone who brought up dordan peterson and i went ah and slid under the table it's it's the same dinner so it didn't go okay

so at that point i was really ready to just dive under the table for multiple reasons but so like it was just a dinner where he was like by the way i've been hiding all of my opinions that i know you won't like i think that he was ready to not hang out with me anymore and like i was also ready for that after this conversation anyway how does one write a book it started with like a several satire pieces kind of on the same subject and then I pitched them and they all it kind of I wanted it to like take the structure of a modern relationship all the way through to a breakup which is how relationships end. And I, yeah, so then I just kind of like stoked out satire pieces that would fit with every step of the modern relationship.

And that's kind of how the book came to be. It's a very new book. And also because of all the, you know, like world events, all the press has, is coming slowly, which is cool, because it like every time something new comes out about it, then I feel like people care about it for the first time, which is cool. Yeah, we're having in a week or two, a friend of mine has a new book coming out and he's really excited and he's worked hard on it, but he doesn't have, he needs to pre-sell a certain amount

in order for it to get on charts to get publicized because independent and young authors and they're not putting the weight behind it. So we like to bring people on here and the important work that they're doing or fun work, you know, like whatever it is so that you can try to get it out there. We need to totally be a promotional source for each other. Yeah, no, I really appreciate it. Yeah. Well, I'm going to pick it up before we talk about the news. Just give us just one piece of dating advice you'd give someone who just got out of a relationship you know just what do you think about a relationship yeah i would say

like consider what it is you actually want about a relationship because maybe it's like you want a thing that you can get without going through the process of dating like maybe it's that you want someone to spend your evenings with and you can like reach out to more friends or you know like join a softball league or something or like maybe you just want casual sex but like don't jump to the conclusion that just because you're not in a relationship means you have to be like seeking a relationship that's so good it's so important and oftentimes when you figure that sort of thing out and then get into a better place then you find the relationship the relationship finds you because you have fulfilled those aspects that you don't

necessarily need uh somebody to fill yeah i got uh about a year ago i got out of a bad relationship people i've talked about it openly on these shows and stuff and I've been dating and like hanging out with people but I have not really been willing to sacrifice an ounce of the time or energy that I need for myself my cup our company is doing well our work is growing and I've got a full life full of people and family and I don't i i think that the right the more i focus on that i think you bring in the right people i although then i just told you another dating story from recently but maybe i'm only dating people that are wrong for me and i should talk to my therapist about it well you could be dating for fun although i wouldn't say that

super fun but there could be other people you go on a few dates but yeah that part wasn't fun the story was fun it lead up to it in a way the story is fun it's hard because actually he was up until that night a very a very nice guy this was a rough awakening it's like stressful i mean yeah there are some bigots who can be very polite and it's yeah confusing yeah that's often part of it yeah i feel like they're not because they're so polite yeah yeah we're going to talk about the news now and this is sort of a transition to that we want to do a quick follow-up on our conversation last week regarding the johnny depp amber heard trial. A lot of people had a lot of thoughts. A lot of people applauded us for our conversation.

A lot of people had some issues with our conversation. And first off, I just want to say we really appreciate everybody and we love the way that you engage with us and are respectful in your feedback because that's the way to do it. But it is interesting because there have been so many extremely different reactions following this verdict again yeah we appreciate everyone's feedback and stuff and i i think that no matter what we're going to say here it probably won't

like it's going to still have some sort of you know uh divide there and how we deal with it because i think in a lot of ways this trial was a x versus y thing also a representation of like abuse towards men which is a real thing and we didn't want to dismiss that or not consider it which is why we sort of said like we don't want to talk about like the specific facts of the trial because what we were talking about the conversation at large we had was more about the reaction to the trial and sort of the social media aspect of it and um what it meant for the future which is why we didn't say like oh yeah amber heard was a sweet little angel who did nothing wrong or johnny depp was a a sweet little angel who did nothing wrong,

or Johnny Depp was a sweet little angel who did nothing wrong. That's not really what the conversation was about. So we did preface it with like, we didn't- We also do not feel confident sitting here and diagnosing something. I think that that's an extremely unfortunate element of this whole toxic reaction is that people are sitting here making their own opinions

and judging this relationship, which should not have been on display for the entire world to see. And it was really triggering for a lot of people. So we didn't want to get into the specifics of he said, she said, but rather talk about the implications. That said, like Cody mentioned, yeah, abuse against men is a very real thing and it does not get enough attention. We didn't mean to not acknowledge that. But we're also not trying to sit here and defend Johnny Depp because I don't think that he needs that. And the whole thing has been pretty disgusting. conversation, by the way. I think that the implications of what this means, we're already seeing it. We're seeing Marilyn Manson filing, you know, against Evan Rachel Wood. And Cody, you mentioned Brad Pitt with Angelina Jolie. This is this is very real world implications here. The Brad Pitt thing seems to be more about her disparaging is like wine company or something.

But like, it does seem like a lot of people are like he requested a jury trial. So like a lot of people are like he requested a jury trial so like a lot of it seems to be like oh yeah we we we realize now we can we can put this up for the public to see and then they'll do all of our work on like tiktok and youtube and stuff and uh i think one of the things some people had an issue was that we said like we didn't like watch the trial uh like we've seen clips and stuff we didn't like watch the trial for six weeks uh part of it is because there's a lot of other stuff going on part of it is there's a lot of misinformation out there even in a lot of the response to the episode there were some things like oh she did this or this happened this happened and then i'd look into that and like well that's misinformation that's not that's just not true so that's actually like one of the reasons

we didn't want to quote unquote get into the facts of the trial because there was all this information that gets people, you know, very fired up emotional for valid reasons, too. Yeah. I mean, this is just to acknowledge that we hear you guys and like, yeah, there's a lot going on and it's chaotic. I appreciate the way we've had the conversation, the way you guys have responded. But yeah, we didn't we didn't watch the trial. you guys have responded but yeah we didn't we didn't watch the trial and generally speaking you guys know that we don't talk about things we don't watch but this is a different circumstance the the reasons for not watching are valid and what we wanted to focus on was some of the broad topics which we did see we saw like the stuff that we talked about was stuff that we did uh right also we couldn't ignore it they wouldn't let us ignore it right there we've talked about was stuff that we did see and read about. Right. Also, we couldn't ignore it. They wouldn't let us ignore it.

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very first public televised here tonight on primetime TV. January 6th. interesting that they apparently they like hired an exec at abc to produce this oh my god i'm not really yeah the dateline guy yeah and they're putting it specifically in this fancy room to make it more look a certain way so they can stream it and allow for more media and that's like this is exactly what the like we were just talking about like the problem like why are like

i know do it for real like i know we'll dismiss it and think it's less serious because you're trying to present it like this fucking circus the other side of it i don't disagree with you but i'm gonna say the the work in theory be i don't though because this your reaction was my first reaction and then i'm like uh so i guess everybody knows this this can't result in much of anything the the best thing that you can that or at least from their perspective is to try to make this yeah to have the same kind of response as the amber heard johnny depp to make it something that is on it that you can't really ignore to actually have the things set out loud for the american public to see even though most people aren't going to watch it

you know but it is embarrassing i also feel sure that it will still be kind of boring it will be of course it will be yeah so i think even will be, of course it will be So I think even with all the High production, it will be not that different from C-SPAN Yeah, because like even though you got This ABC guy The people who will speak are still Incredibly boring people Still senators, yeah

What are you going to do, Mark Meadows? It's going to be C-SPAN, but it's going to open with a performance Of We Don't Talk About Bruno Performed by Nancy Pelosi It's going to be C-SPAN, but it's going to open with a performance of We Don't Talk About Bruno. Performed by Nancy Pelosi. Lin-Manuel is going to pop in and do his thing. Yeah. Let's go through some of this. We are expecting that the hearings will reveal just, you know, a bunch of fun little coup attempts from Donald Trump.

bunch of fun little coup attempts from donald trump i'm sure it'll be um kind of similar to like margie taylor green having to be on the stand and talk about this sort of things i imagine there will be a lot of instances of like people having to like address things they've said and be like well i i don't know if i said that exactly and then having it read back to them or like shown a video of them literally saying it and then them sort of having to embarrassingly walk it back or something and then everything will be fine anyway for them yeah it won't matter yeah it won't mean anything here are some of the things uh that we've learned recently earlier this week we found that trump campaign staffers directed the fake electors in georgia to operate in quote complete secrecy so you know i don't know how you deny i mean that's very cooey it's cooey yeah several members of the proud boys have been charged with seditious conspiracy in relation to january 6th

that's fun man well it's like a clearly coordinated thing that like you know when it happens on tv you know i don't know if everyone was home when it was going on i remember it was very surreal and bizarre watching this thing go on but it's the kind of thing that you can sort of i think a lot of people can watch and see and go oh those people got like out of hand or like you know it wasn't uh it was just like they got fired up and they went in whereas it's like a thing that they wanted to happen from the beginning there are messages between these people there are all these bits of evidence that point to like they knew what was going on and they knew it was bad but also half the people involved wanted it to happen and yeah it's very clear well and i mean just even on the day of there's video of proud boys directing people to go start shit with the cops like you there's video evidence of it oh yeah just like on the actual day of january 6th

it took me like a while to feel like it was a big deal it wasn't until i realized that it was like the administration was was supporting all of this that it felt like a big deal because other than that it's just like we already knew that there were violent people in the united states who would do something like that and it wasn't yeah like it was i don't know yeah it struck me as crazy right away and i think that's maybe just like the one thing that might hopefully be some sort of positive thing from all of this because again like katie you've been saying like there won't be consequences for these people uh more probably not maybe one or two but probably not but just being able to see more and more

evidence of like no they wanted this to happen. It wasn't this sort of like in the moment accident where like, ah, Trump said some stuff about, we got to go and March. Cause he says whatever the fuck comes into his mind. Isn't like, he doesn't think about this stuff,

but he does is the thing. Yeah. And there was some coordination here. And so maybe at least some people will be like, oh, they did want to do this thing and the majority of republicans do think the election was stolen so to just kind of have people aware that there was this like calculated conspiracy to support that belief and to fight the results

yeah i i i think i don't know if this is they'll get into any of this, or if it should be a separate thing, but there's so many moves that the GOP are making to do the things that they are accusing the Democrats of doing in the last election, and like, pretty blatantly in some cases. And it's the kind of thing that like, I don't know if anything's being done about that. I don't know if anything's being done about that. They're going to try to do this again in a more coordinated and complex way. And it might work if we just let it happen. And I just don't know. Well, also, Proud Boys specifically are like some things that I've read. Like changing directions, changing tactics, lower profile, but starting to get involved, like running for office, trying to actually get elected and getting behind other, you know, flashpoint Republican issues.

And it's scary because it's just about like. Covering up the past or whatever whatever getting through this moment and then legitimizing it some more exactly yeah sort of presenting with this air of like respectability or politeness and like you know uh what marjorie taylor green just hired milo yiannopoulos as her intern like what that how is that like it's i'm speechless obviously but that's wild and bizarre that it just that just happened and now he's there he's just a lying fraud it's like in so many ways he was literally hired by steve bannon to like be a secret nazi and like slip in nazi stuff into the zeitgeist like it's documented and he's just hanging out with his haircut. You

know, he's not addressing so loudly anymore. So he's I'm respectable now, you know, and I think a lot of these people are trying to do that just to get in these positions. And then. So I have a question. Should this be the focus leading up to November? Does it matter at all? We're losing. I think we're going to expecting that we're going to lose. I mean, the focus should be on like what they want to do. That's good, right? I know. Like that's what that's what you want politicians to do is say, we think this idea is good and

we want to do it and we're going to do it. But, you know, they're out there talking about hiring an executive from ABC to produce. Exactly. they're out there talking about like hiring an executive from abc to produce exactly uh you know they're like what what's joe biden talking about how like the deficits down like you know stuff that like people i don't know gas is really expensive people care about that whether it's his fault or not people care about it and talk about things you tried to do or did and what you want to do in the future. It feels a little bit like the hierarchy of needs where like if people don't believe the results of the election, then they're like not going to trust elected officials to do anything else, basically, even though like it doesn't affect their lives in the same way that something like gas prices would it it is just like it feels like i i don't i also wish that it did not have to be a

big talking point for the midterms but it feels like it's impossible for the democrats to move forward at all if people like just don't trust the results of elections and it's like such a huge percentage of the population questions it like we're all very sure that like there's not going to be a huge enough bombshell to matter like i would love nothing more than for them to just release a video first thing of like trump meeting with proud boys and oath keepers being right do a january 6th tell hang mike pence and that's great and then trump said on camera hang mike pence that'd be incredible on camera hang mike pence merrick garland puts out a warrant for his arrest all that stuff i'd love nothing more than that but we're like we're so sure that that's not gonna happen that we're like by the time anyone

listens to this we'll know what they have brought up and i'm sure there might be some like stuff but we're like i think it says something that it's so we're so certain it's not gonna matter i was reading that the first that today is not they they're not expecting there to be any bombshells and today is you know like these are the first i'm like come on come out strong do you really want to get these ratings and keep them up right you're hiring this producer like yeah start with a bang you know come on guys i feel very i almost i know we had to talk about this this week and i want to but it is hard because everything we're talking about we've been talking about january 6th for a year and lots of big talk and no real action. Some people, some just people that were there have had penalties and like faced repercussions in their life.

And that's a whole thing to unpack. But even before that, Donald Trump is always in trouble for something. And, well, we can't do anything about it. And it's hard. It's hard to pay attention to it but we this is this is important did they ever get the guy who put the bombs there no right no the guy put some bombs there i believe marjorie taylor green mentioned that today we still don't know who that pipe bomber was because she cares uh yeah i bet it was her some people actually do think that it was her but she's like one of those serial killers yeah she she

wants to be caught or she's like the only republican who doesn't know up next in the fun news zelon musk oh we love him we love him oh he's a he's a genius and he's funny and cool and we love him always waiting for that next tweet yeah he's still trying to not buy twitter because of the horrible mistake he made by pretending he wanted to buy twitter it's very i love it because well a might just like destroy like several companies but it's very similar to i don't think i'm the first person to point this out it's very similar to the trump of it all because i don't think trump wanted to become the president he did it for his attention and his ratings and his ego and he you know the trump of it all and

it really seems like musk did this and then it's like okay i gotta i'll do this and now i gotta do this and now he's like oh no i have to fucking buy twitter and you know he has this purported belief in free speech despite you know all the uh anti-free speech actions he does against like his employees and things like that so he has to have this this posture of like a free speech absolutism but then i think he also realizes that moderating social media platform is actually very hard to do without it turning into something like 4chan if you do just let anything go and i think just like all the moving parts of owning twitter um i think are intimidating to him because he also is oh yeah owns four other companies but allegedly spends time on all of them and works really hard while he's playing elden ring but uh yeah so he's just trying to get out of it and works really hard while he's playing Elden Ring.

But yeah, so he's just trying to get out of it and trying to make excuses ahead of time with his followers, his fans about bots. There are too many bots and they lied about the number of bots they have. And so I'm going to pay less and get out of the deal. But now they're giving him the information that he's requested. Yeah, they're calling his bluff by by giving him their fire hose i read something that twitter's bot numbers actually do hold up which is like insane because i think that it's like all bots but five percent is kind of a lot you know like and that's what they told him like it could be telling the truth it could be just yeah that's a lot and that's still like a shit ton of bots but yeah he's good well now he's going to

get access to the 500 million tweets sent every day, including information about those accounts and the devices they tweet from. And now it's like he probably didn't expect them to call his bluff. So now he's either going to make his lawyers or a bunch of people at Tesla, like comb through samples of tweets or buy a data warehouse. How is he going to do? do i mean i'm sure he has right but like also part of it like i don't want to i'm not like i don't want to be like conspiracy brain but like part of me is like does he just want to like get access to information about all the people who tweet mean things about him because like that's how his brain works right like but those are public he doesn't need those yeah no i get what you're saying i i believe it he doesn't know he doesn't need it it's just like the kind of thing where it's like he's not going to use it for the thing he's saying he wants it for even though like maybe he did want it for that but now he's like oh i got all i got it all i might hate my data and now he's just gonna like

comb through it should we share that anonymous story that we shared in our elon video about an employee yeah so he's just he doesn't like when people don't think he's cool or funny so we know somebody and we won't say anything about them but they at one point were working for hired to do a one of his little comedy projects that he did the past like four years or whatever. And that person was fired and let go of the project because they liked a tweet making fun of Elon Musk. And that's not speculation. They were told that that was a factor in letting the person go.

And I think that says it all. Everything you need to know about him. Yeah. I mean, it just seems like the perfect story to share with this specific topic. Yeah. I have to say, I just learned how to drive and I test drove a Tesla and it was like so amazing.

And it made me even angrier at Elon Musk's Twitter. I know, he's ruined it. Yeah. Like you made a great car. Can't you just settle for that? They're beautiful cars and they're good for the environment. And they have this feature that I really wish I had called climate control so that you can leave your car, leave your dog in your car when you go in and run your errands. And it keeps it nice and cool.

I would love to. I can't because I hate him. Well, also, I we would be remiss not to point out that they're not good cars and the autopilot is not. You're right. We would be remiss. It crashes into emergency vehicles all the time and they catch on fire. So I'm very happy that you did not get a Tesla. You're right.

They are pretty looking. But like I and I wouldn't knowing all that. I wouldn't. I wish that there were more options. I wish I could drive an electric vehicle right now. They're all expensive and it's unattainable. There are cheaper ones than Teslas out there. There are cheaper than Teslas now.

They have real handles for their doors. If you need to get out and the electricity's out, you don't have to take out a panel and pull some lever inside the car door to open it. Now, that Cybertruck, on the other hand, if I see someone driving those, I'm like, what a badass. Look at that. A lot of it is just it's the kind of stuff that like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if like cars could do this? And it's like, in theory, but in practice, isn't that kind of dangerous? Even like and this isn't Tesla specific, but there are too many screens on cars now.

Yeah. I would say unlike a lot of new cars, there's something about being able to drive and have a tactile response to knobs and things that you are doing to adjust. When it's on a screen, you have to know where you have to like visually see where the knob is because they're not like physical knobs anymore. They're not physical buttons anymore. It's all a screen which takes your attention away from the road because you have to know the placement of it on the screen. And it just seems like we're getting farther away from like the physicality of things that you need to do. Yeah.

Right. I don't know. I mean, they're self-driving cars. That's the real thing with Tesla. They're not just electric vehicles. They're self-driving vehicles. Allegedly. Allegedly. They're not self-driving keep crashing he again last week or a week two weeks ago was like i think we're about six months away from full self-driving automatic like

he said that like he said seven years ago yeah this has only been tragedies people don't care enough about how many accidents there are yeah the the the NHTSA is probably, they said they're like increasing their investigation because they've got a lot more reports of Teslas. It's specifically crashing into emergency vehicles that are parked on the side of the road. The FSD, the quote unquote autopilot doesn't recognize those as cars and and like what will crash into like emergency vehicles specifically they haven't done like a recall yet and they probably are not doing a recall because they don't want like elon musk angrily tweeting about they don't want him to be some you know a federal agency that usually doesn't get a lot of attention but like they're they people shouldn't be allowed to just hit this like glorified cruise control and then just stop paying attention to the road or access most of his deal he's a branding guy he's a publicity guy and a pr guy

he can say like he says oh it's self-driving it's autopilot no it's like assisted like cruise control like you're saying you shouldn't want to be just checked out driving your car. Also, I have a Subaru and even my non self driving car automatically breaks. If something is stopped ahead of you. Sorry, I was just thinking about all these Tesla's crashing into cars, but my car will break if you're not slowing down fast enough in traffic. Is that like very startling? I've never driven a car like that. Is that like, yeah, that's got to be like hard to deal with it's great no i've loved it um i'm i appreciate this i'm nervous i'm a nerve i appreciate the extra set of eyes i need control well i'm still breaking i still usually it's just that beats me by a half second but maybe that half second and then stop

and go los angeles traffic on the freeways that's that's helpful you know anyway oh has anyone driven a nissan leaf no i want to lease an electric car i only i'm like a new driver so i don't i think it'll be a while before i do anything but that's like the only thing that we think i've heard the leaf is good congratulations on your license by the way thank you so much you heard it good? I mean, I don't know anything about cars, so I don't want to talk in a turn, but I have heard as far as electric cars go that the Nissan Leaf is good.

I think Ford is doing some interesting things. Yeah. I think they could have done better naming than Leaf. Yeah. It's environmental. It makes you think of nature. Yeah, I guess. The Nissan Leaf will float you wherever you got to go. it's uh environmental you know it makes you think yeah i guess it's better than the uh

we'll float you wherever you gotta go that's how i think of how a leaf travels it's just like gently drifting there's a new car it's honda's it's called the passport trail sport and i think it's the backpack? Oh, the backpack. Jansport. Jansport, Trailsport, Passport. Honda Passport or the Honda Trailsport. Why are you doing both? That's so silly.

It's a bad name. Yeah, too many sports. It sounds like they didn't say them together ahead of announcing the name. They knew it was going to be Passport and then the Trails sport and they didn't combine it until it was on but now they have the commercials already made and like oh we can't do anything about it commercial was made it sounds to me like they were in a branding meeting and everyone's like okay guys what are you going to name this they're like passport good good i like that what's the other one trail sport trail sport trail sport that's good too that's good too

and the assistants in there writing them down and then some they just handed the paper off and they're like okay right like really all right it's not some interns like more like fail sport and gets immediately fired yep do you guys think that well do you guys think that elon will that they will be able to make him buy twitter if they want to i think they can i think legally they can if they want to legally they can the theory i was reading was that he can only get out of the deal if he shows that the discrepancy in the bots has like a material adverse effect on the business which it won't unless it's like 80 or 90 percent bots which it's not but he can keep like requesting more information he can keep saying i need this information i need that and he can just do that more information. He keeps saying I need this information

I need that and he can just do that forever until they're either like no Like pull the trigger on this and then he still might just be like make me and then I take him to court But didn't he waive due diligence on this so like how long can he keep asking for information? Like do that before the deal man Like his lawyers came up with a thing of like, we can keep asking for information and that's not part of the due diligence thing. Okay. He's going to make them take him to court and then Twitter is going to have to decide,

do we want to deal with this or just let him go? Right, right, right. You think Twitter's just fucking with him for fun right now? Do they actually want this deal? Like, is it good for them? It's good for the shareholders. They'll make a lot of money yeah because he's offering a lot more money than it's worth right right yeah ultimately i think they do

want it to go through because it will make them money but it might turn into just a horrible headache to deal with elon musk in a litigious way yeah also i do think it's funny the bot thing i think is especially funny because he's so he's so obsessed with his bot situation i wish he had their bots on twitter and it sucks and it should be easier to get rid of them it should be easier to like verify that like real people are signing up for accounts and using them but his account in particular is riddled with bots if you tweet anything even vaguely about him you'll get like 10 bots responding to your thing with this like watch ad with a bunch of random things and like crypto stuff he's like inundated with bots his account uh someone did i forget what publication did the survey but it was like

60 to 80 percent of his like followers are bots or like like 50 to 70 maybe i forget the exact number but it was very high compared to most celebrities who have like 50 to 70 maybe i forget the exact number but it was very high compared to most celebrities who have like 30 to 40 percent i think um or like celebrities with like a particular follow count like 120 million and up and i think it's funny that he's so obsessed with it because it is very clearly like it bothers you personally elon yeah that it's it's your it's your account that you see he's very egocentric so he's got this like all these bots like no, no, no. All your bots. Yes.

Other people have to deal with it, but it's more it's probably closer to like five or so percent because they're not the richest man on the planet with all of these people sending bots at you to scam other people following you. So I think it's funny that he's like he's got he's has the most of all of them because yeah you're the richest man on the planet. He gets rid of those bots his ego is gonna take a hit. Oh it's also funny that this is the thing now the reason he wants to get out of the deal because it was one of the reasons he wanted to buy the company in the first place

to identify and get rid of all the bots. So now he's mad that the job is harder like I thought you were this wizard, dude. If he wanted to get rid of them, if that's the reason, then shouldn't this be even more reason for you to do the deal? Because you it's a problem. Oh, it's worse than I thought. I really have to take care of this then.

Right. Or like, it's like, yeah, if the problem gets worse, do you shrug your shoulders and give up? Yeah, he seems like a quitter to me. He does. Mm hmm. Not really. Yeah. And a baby. Well, yes, he's a baby. I don't like. gets worse do you shrug your shoulders and give up yeah he seems like a quitter to me he does not really yeah and a bit well yes he's a baby i don't like okay guys uh we are gonna transition right on into broken news cue broken news sting oh boy There you go. The classic sting. Los Angeles. You all voted, right?

Some of you, maybe. We voted. Ginny's not in Los Angeles. Are you in Los Angeles? No, I'm not. I'm in New York. I followed the election. I saw that Elon is in New York.

Yeah, he did. The Carusos. Katy Perry. All the hits. Gwyneth Paltrow. I was actually very disappointed because I technically live in L.A. County, but not in the city of L.A. So I was not able to vote for mayor. I was very disappointed.

Someone voting next to me was also like, hey, mayor's not on here. That's the only reason I came out here. And it's like, oh, you don't live in Los Angeles, the city. It's like, oh, you don't live in Los Angeles, the city. So this November is going to be a runoff election between billionaire developer Rick Caruso and Democratic Representative Karen Bass. Caruso, you know, what we were doing here in L.A. for the last month was anyone but Caruso. Caruso is a former Republican who changed his political party preference four times over the last 11 years. He became a Democrat just this last January,

right before he filed paperwork to run for mayor. He's donated to anti-abortion candidates in the past and spent $40 million to bombard Los Angeles with advertisements. And his policies are not good. We're against him. He wants to hire a bunch more police. He wants to conduct sweeps of homeless encampments. You know, he owns the Grove. He does over the Grove.

Come on. It's pretty disgusting to see the amount of quote unquote progressive people, at least in name or who stand up and, you know, are never Trumpers and, you know, talk about being against all of these the things that we're all against and then just me just fawning over rick caruso who's objectively bad but because they are threatened and they are buying in on all the media hype and they feel that that you know the unhoused population is out of control and everything is just really wild in la right now people are showing their true colors i feel well that's i mean that's sort of always what happens right as soon as uh like yeah we're against this and this and this and this and this but the thing they're mostly against is feeling

uncomfortable around homeless people right like that's that's what it is that really mobilizes i guess yeah katie perry and elon musk and whoever else he like tossed a few but i don't know why like anyone he met once at an event like eight years ago, he's emailing and being like, hey, can you come out in support of me? And they're like, okay. Yeah, okay. We had some progressive candidates on the ballot. Gina Viola pulled a 5% of the vote, which I think was higher. She was pulling it like 2%. So that was actually good to see. Karen Bass has been a pretty progressive member of the house, but since she's running for mayor, she kind of drifted to the center and has also said she wanted more police and things like that. But it's kind of a no-brainer this November to vote for Karen Bass over Caruso.

Yeah, of these two folks. Who's leading? Caruso. Well, Caruso won. He got 42% of the vote to Bass's 37 37 but there were some more progressive candidates and all of their votes are going to go to bass so it's going to be tight but yeah i think once the actual like that campaign really gets going and it becomes very clear like it's this person or this person and the microscope is put more on caruso without just like these random tweets from Katy Perry being like, I like the sound

of this guy. I think once a lot of his positions and past and all that sort of gets to the forefront, I think that it'll be an easier decision for people. Yeah, but this high profile people will all be endorsing him as well then. And this goes hand in hand with Jonathan included this in our notes, but it's important to bring up for people might not elsewhere might not know about the whole campaign to recall the LA District Attorney George Gascon. And that is a real disgusting thing that's been happening here as well. We had a recent episode about ring and all of these different social media apps, but all you see everywhere is, um, recall Georgia Gascon and, and, and trying to pin, you know, rises in crime and misinformation about the state of Los Angeles on, on him. And it just kind of plays into this whole swing that we're seeing here, not just in Los Angeles,

but throughout California. Um, it's like a Los Angeles, but throughout California. It's like a backlash to progressivism almost. It's not everywhere. It's just in some spots. But that's how it's always being framed. Chesa Boudin got recalled. He's the San Francisco progressive district attorney yesterday. There's a few articles about an increase in shoplifting, which there's not really, but a few articles about shoplifting and people get all afraid, and then they blame the district attorney and not the bloated police budget for those things it just never makes sense to me but yeah like there's a recall effort uh on gascon the same as it was on chesapeake and it might be successful i don't know i don't although i don't

know if there's as much like centrist and real estate group and billionaire and tech money going into that campaign down here as it was in san francisco but like i was kind of upset at seeing the new york times report california sends democrats and the nation a message on crime when it was really like they love that shit yeah it's like this one district attorney gets recalled but then there are still like progressive da's winning in alameda county and contra costa no any any chance they get crime is skyrocketing uh and it's because we defunded the police is the narrative and obviously that's not what happened yeah just like a made-up reality yeah the backlash and this sort of like the fear of crime is always going to be very very very effective to manipulate voters yeah i just want to include this detail that you included

with us jonathan uh people are blaming him for these violent crimes and high profile violent crimes you know against rich people or whatever but there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't you know prosecute people who have done a violent crime this is all a bunch of a media you know twisting of the narrative and robbery burglary and theft are all down here uh and yeah there were some rising murder rates across the country since 2020 we've talked about what happened in 2020 right lots of things but the crime rate in la is still way lower than it was a long time ago people lose lose sight of that sometimes yeah people think it's like 19 they think it's like 1981 in new york they think it's like taxi driver

style out there in new york and new york is very different than it was in the 70s and 80s not that i lived there in the 70s and 80s yeah jenny jenny do you fear for your life every time you leave and go outside yeah what's it like in new york um no i would not say that i fear for my life if anything it's like i would fear for the lives like i have nieces and i fear for them going to school that's like right more scary to me i know i know it's very dark and i guess there was a subway bomber i don't know it would be too I think it's too much to process that riding the subway might be dangerous so I just ignore it you put up you like compartmentalize it yeah look it's life is everything's a little dangerous I

mean I think that we all I like I'm less afraid of the people around me than I am of the government and big, broad decisions that are being made. Totally. Oh, yeah, definitely. But not at schools. I do fear for my nephew as well. Yeah, the Supreme Court this week gave Border Patrol agents immunity from lawsuits seeking to hold them accountable for constitutional violations. There was a 6-3 ruling and it gutted this precedent, which found that federal law enforcement officers who violate the Constitution can be sued and potentially required to compensate victims. So this new ruling gives them the authority to use excessive force without fear of litigation or civil retaliation as long as they're operating within a hundred miles of the U S border, which includes a hundred miles of like the ocean.

So it's where two thirds of Americans live. It's not just by the Mexican. We've mentioned this a little bit before, but the a hundred mile of that border zone is like really fucked. Uh, it's fucked up that that is even a thing. And, uh,

it's essentially a lawless zone for border control to do whatever they want um without repercussions and that seems bad it does seem bad it does seem like if it's particularly egregious i guess they might be fired from cbp but like the the victim of the excessive force has no recourse whatsoever recourse and also I don't have faith that they would be fired there's not yeah why would you enough if if enough people paid attention and there happened to be some

video evidence maybe somebody would be put on leave only if there's video evidence only if there's video evidence that was a fun one to end things on do you want to react to a tweet? I mean, I'm sure you all saw the tweet. Lauren Bobert tweeted, take your children to church, not drag bars.

My God. My God. Wow. I actually didn't see that one. I think I go to like a church themed drag bar. I feel like that's kind of a fun vibe. Or a drag bar themed church. Oh yeah, that too. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah either one would be acceptable options but in lieu of those

i'd rather take my child to a drag bar than to church have you been following the democratic primary against her no no no it's sort of one of my former classmates is running um and he is very good at like going viral it does seem to be like the main issue they're debating is lauren bobert but um he went viral for this video that was just like them throwing shit at each other basically and then talking about how lauren bobert's full of shit um which she is i guess it's like if you're running against someone that crazy it's really hard to do anything substance-based no you have to kind of just reach for the stars just take a broad swing or you can't just be like yeah a real person be like here's what i believe we should do and ignore this

lauren person who just wants attention i think yeah let's talk about how we can help all the primary candidates are just i like read about their debate and it was like they can just only discuss her because she's like so crazy i have to point out and ask and correct me if i'm wrong but didn't it just in regard to this tweet and her like we got to protect the kids from the bad the panses and her like bullshit didn't lauren bobert's husband expose himself to teenagers at a bowling alley that's right oh my god that is correct pretty sure he did that oh my god i forgot oh my god don't take your kids to oh my god don't take your kids to a bowling alley don't take your kids to a bowling alley when lauren bobert's husband is

there so good advice don't take your kids to a bowling alley when lauren bobert's husband's there sound advice skinny thank you thank you so much for joining us again yeah uh everybody uh check out her book which came out May 3rd. It's already out. It's not coming out. It is out, waiting to be purchased. I'm more dateable than a plate of refried beans and other romantic observations. I had to read the title again because I love it.

It's long. It's a long title. And remind our listeners where they can find you online and stuff. I'm Ginny Hogan underscore on Twitter and Instagram. I'm newly on TikTok at jenny hogan underscore on twitter and instagram i'm newly on tiktok at just jenny hogan um yeah yeah great time to join tiktok thank you i know yeah i'm getting into it it's pretty fun all right guys that's it for us this week we'll be back next week in the meantime remember we love you very much very much