Some More News - SMN: Hunter Biden: All The President's Son
Episode Date: October 19, 2022Hi. You may have heard about the president's son, Hunter Biden. He did some stuff! And various things! In today's episode, we're gonna go through all of it: the accusations, the p...otential legal trouble, and the right-wing media frenzy around it. Support us on our PATREON: http://patreon.com/somemorenews Check out our MERCH STORE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/somemorenews?ref_id=9949 SUBSCRIBE to SOME MORE NEWS: https://tinyurl.com/ybfx89rh Please fill out our SURVEY: https://kastmedia.com/survey/ Subscribe to the Even More News and SMN audio podcasts here - Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/some-more-news/id1364825229 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ebqegozpFt9hY2WJ7TDiA?si=5keGjCe5SxejFN1XkQlZ3w&dl_branch=1 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/even-more-news Follow us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/SomeMoreNews/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SomeMoreNews/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somemorenews Sources: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CuMe7QT76zm44Y7iZbY9XhYf4UDAq9SRSRmZfVm8EW8/edit?usp=sharing Try the sheets that will make fall the coziest season of the year. Get 15% off your first set of sheets and free shipping when you use promo code MORENEWS at https://www.bollandbranch.com/?utm_so... Get to the root of stress with the Stress See Bee Dee Complex from NextEvo Naturals. For up to 25% off subscription orders of $40 or more, use promo code MORENEWS at NextEvo.com. Protect yourself with the VPN that we use and trust. Use our link https://EXPRESSVPN.com/MORENEWS today and get an extra three months free on a one-year package. Support the show!: http://patreon.com.com/somemorenewsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Hunter signal.
It appears that federal prosecutors might actually go after Hunter Biden.
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Exposed the Hunter Biden saga.
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By now, you've probably heard a lot
about President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden.
And if you haven't, please tell me your secret.
He is after all the subject
of an upcoming major motion picture.
Oh boy.
Featuring Gina Carano, former co-star of the hit show
Where the Fuck is Baby Yoda and Why Isn't He Yoda?
But don't let these extravagant Tampa Wood biopics fool you.
President Biden's son, Hunter,
is not actually a very notable
or historically significant person.
His only job seems to be sending emails,
setting up meetings that may or may not
ever actually happen.
But just like a lot of rich Americans with famous dads,
that hasn't stopped all of us
from talking about him every day, all of the time. And in fairness to us, he has done actual crimes
and the U.S. Attorney's Office in Delaware just might prosecute him for those crimes,
which I'm sure has the GOP just absolutely creaming in their suit pants.
Here's how Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert described him to the crowd at
CPAC Texas back in August. One of the greatest national security threats America is facing today.
That's right. Hunter Biden, one of the greatest national security threats America is facing today.
He's like the specter of sloppy man children. An octopus with 16 tentacles.
That's one fucked up octopus.
He's got to be stopped.
But if you listen to what Hunter's chief critics are saying,
it can be a challenge to determine the exact specific threat he poses to America,
and by extension, the world.
But I'm calling for a select committee to investigate the law-breaking,
crack-smoking, gun-ditching, hooker-loving son of a resident, Hunter Biden.
See, if you're not on the truth socials keeping up with all the latest developments in the
Hunterverse because you're normal, you might not even be able to follow that list of allegations.
And I guess the question is, should we be following them?
The irony of the MAGA GOP's misinformation tactic
is that it makes it impossible
for anything credible to get through.
You either assume it's all hogwash, because it often is,
or you slop it all up with a big asshole spoon.
But in the interest of our long time
and exclusive fair and balancedness,
we actually wanted to look at this story
with objective, smoky, alluring eyes.
After all, we're not exactly Biden fans here at the showdy,
at least the non-puppet side of the showdy.
So why not look into this?
Let's break it all down from the beginning.
What global threat does Hunter Biden allegedly pose? Part one, hunting season.
To unpack all of the charges, it behooves us to do a little mini Hunter biography,
a Hunter by dog graphy, if you will. You won't? Too bad!
Here's the bidography.
Hunter is Joe Biden's second son.
His mother, Nelia Biden, and his younger sister, Naomi,
died in a car crash in 1972,
just after Joe was first elected
to represent Delaware in the US Senate.
Hunter and his brother, Beau Biden, were also in the car
and were seriously injured in the accident, but survived.
In 1996, Hunter graduated from Yale Law School
and started working as a financial consultant.
In the years that followed,
Hunter worked in various capacities
as an investor and a lobbyist,
and he served on the board of directors
of many different hedge funds and companies.
He's also done a lot of business with his uncle,
James Biden, who is Joe Biden's brother.
According to his own interviews and memoirs,
Hunter was struggling with drug and alcohol addiction
throughout his life.
He traces it all the way back to the trauma
of losing his mother and sister as a child.
But this first became a matter of public record in 2013,
when he was kicked out of the US Navy Reserve
for failing a drug test.
At the time, Hunter tested positive for cocaine,
which will absolutely help you write the theme song
for Top Gun, but will not help you actually
pilot naval aircraft, probably.
But it will make you pilot them cooler.
You'll think you're piloting the hell out of it.
And then you won't.
In 2015, Hunter's brother Beau died of brain cancer
at age 46, deepening his addiction struggles.
By his own estimates, he was smoking crack
every 15 minutes during this period.
I'm not a doctor or an addiction specialist,
but to these untrained ears, that sounds like too much crack.
In the run up to the 2020 election,
Hunter became national news after Senate Republicans
opened an investigation into allegations of corruption
against him and his father,
relating to Hunter's work on behalf
of a Ukrainian energy company called Burisma Holdings.
The investigation was led by Senator Ron Johnson
of the Homeland Security Committee
and Senator Chuck Grassley
of the frustrating old racist committee
and sought to determine whether or not Hunter's role
as a board member for Burisma
was an improper conflict of interest
while his father was vice president
and was specifically lobbying
for anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine.
That investigation concluded in September, 2020
and produced an 87-page final
report, finding that Hunter's role with Burisma did represent a conflict of interest. You know,
in the same way giving your profusely sweaty kids and their sweaty, skeletal husbands jobs at the
White House is a conflict of interest. The report also found that Hunter had quote unquote, "'cashed in' on his father's name."
You know, the same way Trump and all of his children
cashed in on his name and the presidency
all four years he was in office.
But the GOP couldn't produce any actual evidence
that Joe Biden had done anything wrong as vice president,
or that Hunter Biden had broken any laws.
And they were really trying, okay?
87 pages, that's so much world building.
The bleeahem, the legends of the, where they all came from.
They gave it 110% is my point.
Fast forward to late 2020,
Hunter released a statement revealing
that he was under federal investigation
by the Delaware U.S. Attorney's Office for tax issues
and potential violations of money laundering laws.
That's part of what the recent news about him is about
as it appears that investigation is coming to a close.
This investigation had started
while Hunter's father was vice president,
but it widened in 2018.
He's already started paying off some of his tax liability,
but the Department of Justice's investigation is ongoing
and the grand jury is currently reviewing evidence.
Okay, here's why any of this still matters for us today,
aside from Americans just being messy little bitches
who love drama.
Guilty!
In April of 2019, three water damaged laptops
were dropped off for repair at The Mac Shop,
a computer repair store in Wilmington, Delaware,
owned by a guy named John Paul Mac Isaac,
which is a new kids on the block ass name
and a way cooler one than this guy deserves.
Mac Isaac, an outspoken and enthusiastic Republican,
was working at the store that day,
but can't be sure whether the person
who dropped off the laptops was in fact Hunter Biden
because he has a medical condition that affects his vision.
Still, he assumed this was the real Hunter
because one of the laptops
had a Beau Biden Foundation sticker on it.
The receipt for the repairs was signed by a Hunter Biden
and he smelled alcohol fumes.
And as we all know, only one guy in America drinks alcohol.
If you don't smell fumes, you can't assumes.
Okay, just making sure this is the real report
and not some encyclopedia brown mystery that got mixed in.
So when no one ever returned to pick up the laptops
or responded to his repeated phone calls,
Mac Isaac says he took it upon himself
to investigate their contents,
was disturbed by what he found and informed the FBI.
He says that in late 2019,
the FBI took possession of the laptops themselves,
but that he made a copy of the hard drive
and held onto it.
At some point, he appears to have passed several copies
of this data along to a variety of right wing
and Republican operatives, including a lawyer
named Robert Costello, who frequently works
with Donald Trump's lawyer.
So this is the laptop from hell that Representative
Boebert was referring to in her CPAC speech.
Using a phrase Donald Trump himself takes credit for coining
though others suggest that it was New York Post writer,
Miranda Devine, despite the fact that it's just
an extremely basic spin on an old familiar phrase
and is the opposite of clever.
Also, it was probably Richard Lewis.
The hard drive contains files, emails, and text messages,
which provide a lot of insights into Hunter's life
and business dealings between 2013
and when the laptops were dropped off in early 2019.
Furthermore, this trove of data provided access
to some of Hunter's personal info and passwords,
which have been subsequently used
to hack into his iCloud storage and iPhone,
leading to an ongoing synchronized cascade of leaks,
a full Busby Berkeley musical sequence of leaks
for all you greatest generation viewers.
Leaks pissing in all directions,
like the piss on a certain pee tape,
allegedly featuring a certain president
who looks like human piss.
Just piss sprung to life like Pinocchio, piss Nokia.
In October of 2020, just weeks before the Trump versus Biden election, the New York Post and a
few other far right international outlets started running with some of these Hunter stories,
starting with this item on October 14th about Hunter's work on behalf of Burisma.
Initially, Democrats, including members of Biden's own team
and administration, suggested that the emails and files
could be entirely faked,
one of those Russian disinformation campaigns
we've all heard so much about.
However, subsequent investigations by the New York Times,
the Washington Post, and the New York Post
suggest that at least some of the drive's contents are real.
So much like a certain P tape before them,
yes, the laptops are probably real.
And just about all of the laptop related allegations
around Joe Biden specifically center on statements
like this one from a 2019 interview.
I don't know what he was doing.
I know he was on the board.
I found out he was on the board after he was on the board. I found out he was on the
board after he was on the board. And that was it. Right wing operatives have scoured these files
like Twitter trying to figure out whether Harry Styles spit on Chris Pine. Remember that? Remember
when that happened nine years ago? Looking for any concrete proof of Joe Biden being caught in a lie
that would reveal he actually did have specific knowledge
of Hunter's business dealings,
especially during the time when he was still vice president,
because that would be shady and unbefitting
of the office of the president.
Unless, you know, you're this guy.
Excuse me, piss guy.
One email to Hunter from a business partner
named James Gillier sent in May of 2017 suggests that 10% of a lucrative deal
with a Chinese company would be held aside for the big guy,
which many have assumed could mean Joe Biden.
But we don't really have any more detailed information
about that deal, including whether it ever came to pass
or whether Joe Biden ever knew about it.
Also, Joe Biden stopped being the vice president
in January of that year,
turning the office over to Mike Pence,
the living opposite of the big guy.
Dude looks like an anthropomorphic rice cracker
trying to hide his boner at Bible school.
Though to be fair and balanced,
Joe looks like an anthropomorphic uncle cracker
trying to hide his boner at bring your uncle to school day.
Biden's ability to influence American foreign policy
at that point was pretty much non-existent.
It's not like Mike Pence, or for that matter, Donald Trump,
were going to take pointers from Joe Biden.
What it comes down to is that it's not Joe's laptop
we're analyzing here.
Heck, we don't even know if it was Hunter's,
so we don't have a lot of smoking gun interactions
featuring the man himself.
He's a bit like Hank Godzilla,
the title character in the 2014 film, Godzilla.
He's not around, but everyone's really focused
on his present location, what he's been up to,
and what kind of mood he's gonna be in
whenever he finally shows up.
Laptop-related allegations against Hunter Biden,
on the other hand, are a lot more colorful,
providing endless ammunition for performative pearl clutching
at conservative rallies in which every single speaker
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We were talking about the Hunter Biden laptop
and what the exact allegations are against him.
And to sum it up,
they can be separated out into a few distinct piles.
First, there are things that are potentially embarrassing,
but not actually related in any way
to politics or government or Joe Biden.
Like for example,
these leaked clips of Hunter nude in a hotel room
with a naked woman using drugs
and waving a handgun around
like Kiefer Sutherland trying to hail an Uber.
Illegal, sure, but like who hasn't done that before?
We've all done that before, right?
I'm right that everyone has done that.
But most of the more serious allegations
center around peddling influence.
The idea is that Hunter was accepting money
from powerful foreign interests,
a lot of billionaires who are likely aligned
with the governments of places like Russia,
Ukraine, and China,
in exchange for putting them in touch with his father.
In some cases, even outright making deals happen,
even if they weren't in the best interests
of the United States.
And here's the thing,
many of the emails and messages taken from the laptop
do in fact point to meetings and discussions
about potential
deals between Hunter Biden, his business associates, and a whole spectrum of international
businesses and billionaires, many of whom have deep connections to foreign governments.
Most of these deals, especially the larger and more ambitious ones, never came to pass.
But some of them did. Based on these emails, between 2013 and 2018,
Hunter Biden and his companies took in about $11 million from his work,
most of which was overseas.
The potential for influence peddling is certainly there,
and maybe this should lead to a serious
and level-headed examination
about the incestuous relationship
between business and politics
that could result in meaningful legislation
to separate the two.
But it won't because neither conservatives or Democrats
have any interest in seeing that come to an end.
They just want to scream about Hunter Biden's dick
in public into a microphone.
And hey, I get it.
So do I.
A lot of this resulted from his tenure as a board member
for Ukrainian energy giant Burisma,
which he joined as head of legal affairs in May, 2014.
Hunter has never denied that he was an attractive hire
for the company because of his father's job
as vice president.
He famously told the BBC that his name was seen as gold
by corporate leadership and led to his placement
on the board.
Kind of like how I got this job
because my dad, Sir Codeth Johnston I,
invented reading the news while frightened.
Oh, and beards.
He invented the beard.
Billion dollar idea, pops!
By his own admission, starting in 2015,
Hunter's drug use became a very significant problem
and he was spending money very quickly,
up to an estimated $200,000 per month
from October 2017 to February 2018.
According to what is probably,
maybe sort of Hunter's laptop,
purchases during this period include luxury hotel rooms,
Porsche payments, expansive dental work,
and massive cash withdrawals for, you know.
In their 2017 divorce filings, his ex-wife Kathleen
added sex workers, strip clubs, and gifts for various women
to his list of expenditures.
Hunter has described Burisma as an enabler
of his worst impulses.
Okay, so this Burisma situation is, it's kind of bad.
The son of the vice president,
his thinking compromised by a devastating drug addiction,
takes money from a foreign energy company
because they're hoping he will help curry favor
with his old man.
It's not great.
It's not even good.
Probably shouldn't be allowed.
But that's really just the beginning.
Burisma was already plagued by scandal
and under investigation by the Ukrainian government for corruption before Hunter Biden joined the beginning. Burisma was already plagued by scandal and under investigation by
the Ukrainian government for corruption before Hunter Biden joined the board. We know from laptop
emails and messages that representatives from the company, including a Burisma executive named
Vadim Pazarsky, pressured Hunter to speak with his father about contacting the Ukrainian government
and asking them to shut down their investigation into the company. Specifically, Burisma hoped to get rid
of a powerful prosecutor named Victor Shokin
and replace him with someone more amenable
to their interests.
Zangief, perhaps, or General Arumov
from GoldenEye 007 for the Nintendo 64.
I haven't met any other Russian or Ukrainian guys,
and I haven't met them either
because they're in video games, but whatever.
The laptop files contain an email from April, 2015
in which Pozersky appears to thank Hunter
for setting up a meeting with his dad.
And sure enough, just eight months
after that email was sent,
Vice President Biden did in fact speak
to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko about Shokin, who was then dismissed from his role
as the nation's top prosecutor.
Hmm, seems suspect.
These specific allegations were the subject
of that initial New York Post item in October of 2020,
the one that started the entire epic laptop from hell
cinematic franchise.
But it's not really as open and shut
as the post would maybe make it sound.
First of all, there's no evidence
that any official meeting ever actually happened
between Pazarski and Vice President Biden.
Nothing is mentioned in any of Biden's formal notes
or schedules, and he's always denied
that any such meeting took place.
It's possible that the two men attended the same event
and may have spoken.
It just doesn't appear on their schedules.
But the only concrete evidence we have for this connection
is the email from Pozerski to Hunter.
And depending on how you read it,
he could be thanking him for trying to set up a meeting,
not thanking him for a meeting that already took place
or was definitely going to.
And although Biden did pressure the government of Ukraine
to fire Viktor Shokin as the country's top prosecutor,
so did a lot of other world leaders and governments,
including some forces within Ukraine.
Shokin was publicly accused of corruption,
not only by Joe Biden, but by Christine Lagarde,
the managing director of the International Monetary Fund,
and Dariya Kaliniuk, the co-founder and executive director
of the Anti-Corruption Action Center in Kiev.
Also, Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Shokin
because of very clear acts of corruption.
Yuri Lutsenko, the Ukrainian prosecutor
who took over the top job after Shokin,
has said there's no reason to investigate the
Bidens over those allegations, which I guess is, you know, what he'd say, right? Still, Hunter's
actions here are kind of hard to defend. Even Joe Biden seems to think so. He was asked about his
son working for a Ukrainian gas company at a town hall in December 2019, long before the laptop had
ever leaked to the public,
and responded by calling the questioner fat
and challenging him to a pushup contest.
The reason I'm running is because I've been around
him all the time and I know more than most people now,
and I can get things done, that's why I'm running.
And you wanna check my shape on it,
let's do pushups together, man.
Let's do, let's run, let's do whatever you wanna do.
And no one has ever said it.
Not one-
I didn't say you were doing anything wrong.
You said I set up my son to work in an oil company.
Isn't that what you said?
Get your words straight, Jack.
That's what I hear on MSNBC.
You don't hear that on MSNBC.
You did not hear that at all.
But you heard.
Look, okay, I'm not going to get in an argument with you, man.
Well, yeah, you do.. Look, okay, I'm not gonna get in an argument with you, man. Well, I don't want to.
Well, yeah, you do, but look, look, here's the deal.
It may seem like he's off book here,
but this was actually how they planned to engage
with this subject during strategy sessions.
Americans want a president they can watch
get a horse stop doing pushups.
The point is, apparent conflicts of interest aside,
there's no smoking gun that Hunter took money
in exchange for Joe Biden's influence pressuring Ukraine
to halt its investigations into Burisma.
Although there's plenty of smoke, so once again,
maybe business and politics should be kept separate.
Seems like a reasonable thing to ask for.
Several of the mini scandals that emerged
from the laptop
are like this.
There's some underlying merit to the charge,
but no real proof that's likely to stick.
There's some there there,
as a 90s Oliver Stone character might say,
but many of the stories that emerged from the laptop
and the surrounding gossip
were built on even shakier premises.
For example, did Hunter Biden accept
a $3.5 million payment from Russian
billionaire Elena Baturina, the widow of Moscow's former mayor? Everyone's least favorite jelly
flavor, Sean Hannity said so on Fox News in March, and he seems very quaffed and confident.
Hunter received a whopping $3.5 million wire transfer from a Russian oligarch, the former first lady
of Moscow. Donald Trump also desperately wanted to know. He posed the question 42 times in the
final weeks of the 2020 presidential campaign. To answer that question, this one is a bit
complicated and weird. To quote the GOP's report, on February 14th, 2014,
Baccarina wired $3.5 million
to Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC,
Rosemont Seneca Thornton Bank Account
for a consultancy agreement DD12.02.2014.
Rosemont Seneca Thornton is an investment firm
co-founded by Hunter Biden
that was incorporated on May 28th, 2013
in Wilmington, Delaware.
That's the actual accusation.
Not that Hunter Biden personally accepted the money,
but a company that Hunter Biden co-founded
accepted the money,
which then presumably Hunter Biden took.
The company in question, Rosemont Seneca Thornton,
was founded in 2009 by Hunter,
as well as John Kerry's stepson, Christopher Hines,
and some rich guy named Devin Archer,
whose dad is, I don't know, Walmart Archer.
Now, this whole thing is like a shell game
of generic corporate names,
along with Rosemont Seneca Thornton.
There's also Rosemont Realty,
a company once known as BGK Group
that Heinz and Archer worked on,
but Biden was on the advisory board of until 2014.
Biden also started a sister company
called Rosemont Seneca Partners.
Then there's Rosemont Seneca Thornton,
which was incorporated in May, 2013,
by two people
who go unnamed in the incorporating documents.
It's likely the two were Hunter Biden
and a business partner from this period,
Walmart's son, Devin Archer.
Hunter's lawyers deny this,
but it super seems like this is a lie.
Overall, it's impossible to tell
what was going on with all of this.
And we get a lot of conflicting information
from news sources and partisan reports.
The GOP report cites a confidential document
as their source.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post cites unnamed sources
close to the company who claim that Rosemont Seneca Thornton
was dissolved as a company almost right after it was formed.
You know, like all legit companies.
But the source also says that apparently Devin Archer
then secretly undissolved it and used it to accept
this money after Hunter Biden
was no longer associated with it.
But I don't know, man.
They don't give us their sources, no one does.
Plus, the Washington Post article also says
that Hunter couldn't have taken the money
because he didn't claim it on his taxes,
which is just an adorable thing to say.
Overall, it's really hard to get to the bottom of this
or even wrap your head around a timeline.
And I think that's the point of making a bunch of entities
with similar sounding names.
At the end of the day, it's equally possible
that Biden took at least some of this money
as it is that Archer went rogue and Biden wasn't involved.
But either way, it doesn't look good for Hunter Biden.
It's scummy and weird.
Not to mention that Hunter was also trying
to get deals going in China,
because I don't know if you've heard about this,
but cocaine, it's pretty expensive.
You have to work a lot of hours to maintain a coke habit.
Luckily, you're on cocaine, so those hours fly by.
In 2013, Hunter flew on Air Force Two with his dad,
Vice President Joe the Bee, on a state trip to China.
Once there, he met with an investment banker
named Jonathan Lee.
And just 12 days later, the Chinese government approved
a new private equity firm called BHR Partners,
with Lee as CEO and Hunter as a board member
with a 10% stake in the company.
BHR, it's worth noting,
is backed by some pretty heavy hitters in China,
including large banks and local government offices.
As a major investment firm,
BHR also dabbles in a number of vital
and globally significant industries,
like energy and technology.
Hunter's lawyer has explained that the BHR gig
was an unpaid position and that Hunter
was consulting the company about ways to bring Chinese capital into international markets.
Hunter also claims he never saw any profits from his BHR holdings until his father left office in
2017. Convenient. Hunter formally resigned from BHR, which he also wasn't officially working for or whatever,
in 2020.
Though as recently as 2021,
the White House confirmed that he's still working
to unwind his investment in the company.
It's a really relatable problem.
Man, I wish I could get these guys to stop paying me,
but they just keep paying me.
Stop giving me all this damn money.
There's only so much cocaine that one man can buy.
Still, several big BHR deals have raised red flags,
giant expensive red flags.
In 2016, the company facilitated the sale
of a cobalt and copper mine
in the Democratic Republic of Congo from an American company, Freeport McMoran, to a Chinese firm. Cobalt, you see, is an important
resource for manufacturing electric car batteries. And the Biden administration has warned that China
could be planning to corner the market on the mineral and use it to undermine the growth of
America's auto industry. Executives from Freeport McMoran have said
they were unaware of Hunter's personal connection
to the Chinese company that was facilitating the buyout.
Hmm, a little fish, a little suspish.
Furthermore, in July of this year,
the Biden administration released
more than 5 million barrels of oil
from US emergency reserves
in the hopes of lowering fuel prices,
which included shipments of crude
to the Netherlands, India, and China.
Now, one of the recipients of this crude oil
was a conglomerate named Sinopec,
which is owned by the Chinese government.
And in 2015, BHR Partners invested in a subsidiary
of that company known as Sinopec Marketing.
In other words, Joe Biden sold off
a bunch of America's emergency oil
to a Chinese conglomerate that just so happened
to be a subsidiary of a company
that regularly sends Hunter Biden money,
even though he keeps begging them not to.
Now, it's entirely possible, even probable,
that Hunter Biden had nothing to do
with orchestrating this oil sale.
And Joe Biden really did intend for the sale
to lower American fuel prices
and not to benefit his son's finances
in an elaborate and roundabout way.
But that's still what ended up happening.
As with most of the allegations against Hunter,
we can only confirm the appearance of a conflict of interest
and not that any laws were broken.
But it doesn't feel awesome.
Kind of feels like maybe the president's son
shouldn't be allowed to be in any kind of position
that allows him to even potentially profit
from a White House decision.
Kind of feels like the laws governing business
and politics in this country should be a little more concrete
than a big old shrug.
If the laws governing conflicts of interest
between business and politics in America
were the insane clown posse,
every single elected official would be a shrug-a-lo.
Yes, nailed it.
Okay, I gotta wind down from that shrug-a-lo joke for a bit.
So, you know, we should cut to some ads, you know,
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Look, when we come back, we'll continue talking about Hunter Biden and the other allegations around him in China.
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And we're back, back on the hunt,
which is absolutely something Hunter Biden has said
to at least one sexual partner in the past,
or maybe in the future.
Thanks for watching Hunter, back to China and the Bidens.
A lot of the other China allegations
revolve around a different Chinese energy company,
CEFC China Energy and Hunter's relationship
with its young founder, billionaire Yi Jianming.
Jianming and CEFC, which has close ties
to the ruling Chinese Communist Party,
contacted the Biden family in 2015.
And that just rules.
So fucking cool that, according to the New York Times,
Yi and Hunter Biden met in person at a Miami hotel
in May, 2017, and discussed a number
of potential US infrastructure and energy deals,
including a $40 million proposal
to produce liquefied natural gas in Louisiana.
This was during Hunter's tenure
as manager of Rosemont Seneca Partners,
not Thornton, dammit, Partners,
along with John Kerry's stepson, Chris Hines, right?
Another politician's son, what are the odds?
It's almost as though that thing I keep saying
about this being against the law needs to be true.
Still, it's unclear whether or not anything productive
ever happened as a result of these discussions.
And it doesn't appear that any specific agreements
were made.
Nonetheless, according to a report in the New Yorker,
Yee sent Hunter a 2.8 carat diamond
as a thank you gift following the meeting,
which during Hunter's divorce was appraised
at a value between $10,000 and $80,000.
I'm sorry, I must've read that wrong.
It sounded like I said a communist billionaire
thanked the former vice president and future president's son
for setting up a business meeting
to discuss lucrative American infrastructure deals
by sending him an $80,000 diamond.
Because that is what I said.
Because that's what he did.
Lavish and comically over the top gifts aside,
Hunter's relationship with CEFC progressed in August of 2017
when he met with an executive named Gongwen Dong.
Following this meeting, Dong and Hunter set up
a joint account at Cathay Bank,
which is when some serious buccolas started changing hands.
Over 14 months, CEFC and its executives
paid $4.8 million to entities connected with Hunter Biden
and his uncle, James Biden.
This included a monthly stipend of $100,000 for Hunter,
$65,000 a month for James,
$500,000 one-time retainer
for Hunter and then an additional $1 million retainer
shortly after.
These retainers were apparently intended
to compensate Hunter, a graduate from Yale Law School,
to serve as a legal representative
for CEFC executive named Patrick Ho.
He has been frequently identified in the press
as something of an international fixer for CEFC.
And in some leaked 2018 audio,
Hunter Biden can be heard describing him as,
and I quote,
the fucking spy chief of China.
Cool.
This is all totally normal business stuff.
Ho was arrested by the FBI in the fall of 2017 in New York
for allegedly bribing African
leaders to sign energy contracts with companies affiliated with the Chinese government, which
kind of sounds like exactly what he was trying to do with Hunter Biden. Ho was ultimately convicted
and sentenced to three years in prison on bribery and money laundering charges, but despite paying Hunter that $1.5 million retainers,
he wasn't ever represented in court by Hunter Biden.
Ho's acting attorney in the case
was a lawyer named Edward Kim.
So there's zero evidence that any of the projects
involving James or Hunter Biden during their entire tenure
with CEFC ever came to fruition,
but that didn't stop them from paying Biden salaries
and legal fees.
Laptop emails from 2018 show Hunter arguing
with CEFC executives about when he'd get his money.
In March of that year, an email from one of his contacts
at CEFC warned Hunter that the company was dissolving
and advised him to take whatever he could get
before the doors finally closed.
He reportedly received $1.4 million in additional payments
from CEFC over just the next six months.
As it turns out, Hunter Biden's contact inside CEFC
was correct.
By the end of 2018, the company's finances
were widely seen as a house of cards in China,
in which fresh loans were covering for old expiring loans
and it's functionally collapsed.
But wait, it's bad to pay for old loans with new loans.
Okay, all right, wait a second.
But okay, but what if I use the old loans to buy
only payments of dollars?
I should have listened to my mom
and just bought cocaine with it.
Okay, so two fundamental questions remain.
Why was this Chinese energy company,
which was largely funded by the Chinese government,
paying Hunter and James Biden huge sums of money?
And if the money was intended to influence Joe Biden,
were they successful?
And the answer is,
we don't know.
Well, we don't know.
Other than some Washington office space
that Hunter considered renting
on behalf of an organization he called
the Biden Foundation and Hudson West CEFC US in 2017,
there's very little paperwork or data
connecting Joe Biden and CEFC in any significant way,
even if you include nicknames like the big guy
or sleepy Joe or old Kano.
So we're still in an extremely murky gray area
of things that aren't technically illegal,
but probably should be.
Other than cocaine possession, which is only illegal
if it's against the law to be cool,
that is very illegal, very illegal,
very addicting to be cool.
Possess of a controlled substance notwithstanding,
there's one bonafide case where Republicans
seem to have established a clear cut example of Hunter Biden actually breaking a law.
It relates back to Boebert's gun ditching charge.
Remember that one?
Back in 2018, while Hunter was going through
a particularly rough patch,
he purchased a handgun at a shop in Delaware.
Fearing that he might try to hurt himself,
Hallie Biden, Boe's widow, took the gun
and threw it in the trash
behind Jansen's Market,
a grocery store frequented by members of the Biden family.
After the gun went missing,
Hunter demanded Hallie go retrieve it,
but she returned to the market to find that it was missing.
Because the market is close to a high school
and they feared some kid might've found it,
the Bidens contacted the police.
Eventually, the gun was found and returned
by a guy who regularly collects the recyclables
out of Jansen's garbage.
It was pretty irresponsible,
but no one was arrested or charged
because it's very, very difficult to do anything illegal
with a gun in this country.
You can almost do whatever you want with them.
Hunter purchased the gun at a store
owned by a guy named Ron Palmieri,
who claims that after the incident at the market,
Secret Service agents showed up at his store
and demanded that he turn over the forms
Hunter had filled out when purchasing the firearm.
Palmieri refused and turned the forms over
to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms instead.
Both the Secret Service and President Biden have denied
this visit ever took place,
but Palmieri did send the form to the ATF.
When Hunter was asked,
are you an unlawful user of or addicted to marijuana
or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug,
or any other controlled substance?
He answered, no.
Even though he later admitted to using drugs
during this time and had been previously discharged
from the Naval Reserve for cocaine use.
Although it's rarely prosecuted,
lying on that form is technically a felony.
So you know what that means.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
No, really out of everything we just said,
it appears this gun thing, along with tax crimes,
is what might bring down old Hunter,
the apparently most dangerous man in America,
if they decide to actually prosecute him.
We got-ish him.
Yay-bee.
Part two, bad faith.
Looking back on all of these revelations now with 2022 eyes, it's easy to read them as an indictment,
not of the Biden family specifically,
but the corrupt system that ties our government
and corporations together.
Hunter Biden's last name provided him access
to a world of wealth and privilege
that simply wouldn't be available to someone
whose dad wasn't involved in running the country.
And that's an open invitation for grift and corruption,
no matter who's president,
regardless of whether or not he actually tried
to peddle his father's influence on behalf of Burisma
or CEFC or anyone else,
and whether or not he succeeded,
the opportunity to do so was only ever one phone call
to his old man away,
which is a big problem if we genuinely want our leaders
to act in the country's best interests, which we do.
I think that's the idea, right?
What's equally frustrating about Hunt Hunt 2020
is that the elected Republicans beating their drums
over the potential conflict of interest
is that they don't actually have a problem with it at all.
Not a one of them said anything about Trump flagrantly
using the office of the president to enrich his businesses
or give his kids free jobs.
No, for the right, the laptop from hell
was intended very specifically as an October surprise
to swing the election in Trump's favor.
A sequel to the but her emails tactic from 2016. Ron Johnson,
one of the Republican senators who led the investigation into Hunter's Burisma deals,
admitted as much on a Minneapolis radio show in 2020. Hunter's Burisma board seat provided the
right with a way to deflect corruption accusations against the Trumps. If you recall, President Trump
was impeached and ultimately acquitted in 2020 for allegedly holding up hundreds of millions
of dollars in security aid to Ukraine
because he was pressuring them to investigate
his political rivals, including Joe Biden.
And this is a big smoking gun.
I've been saying this for a long time with that family.
How about the Russia hoax?
It turned out that they were the ones
that did the Russia hoax.
It's also an ideal distraction from allegations
of corruption against Trump's shitty kids,
who have similarly been accused of making a lot
of high-level deals thanks to access granted
by their powerful pops.
Eric Trump continued running his family's
international businesses operating in over 30 countries
with more than $130 million in foreign assets
while his dad was president,
which seemingly poses its own various conflicts of interest.
He has been accused of racking up
massively excessive Secret Service expenditures
on behalf of his extended family,
while also fraudulently misrepresenting the value
of his own properties for financial gain
during Trump's administration.
He also admitted on TV in August
that his dad inappropriately supervised decision-making
at the Department of Justice.
Whoops, what a poopsie goof.
Donald Trump Jr. toured around the world selling condos
while his dad was in the White House,
while Ivanka pursued valuable Chinese trademarks
for her various fashion ventures.
Along with her husband, Jared Kushner,
Ivanka brought in an estimated $ 172 to $640 million
while her father was running the country.
Several orders of magnitude more
than even the most outrageous Hunter Biden allegation.
And that's before you even get
into the $2 billion investment Kushner received
from the Saudi government in 2021,
currently under investigation
by the House Oversight Committee.
So sure, when you're balls deep in scandal after scandal,
it's helpful to have another story
about the other side doing something kind of similar,
even if you have to squint your eyes a bunch to get there.
What if Hunter's name was Trump?
Trump's initial attempts to link Joe Biden to corruption
in Ukraine ultimately failed,
but the Hunter Biden story provides
a valuable second attempt, a Luigi, if you will.
If they can go back and argue that we were right all along
with the Hunter Biden allegations,
perhaps that could be extended into an argument
that the Donald, a man previously famous
for firing meatloaf from a fake job on television,
had been right all along about those pesky Democrats
and their plans for Ukraine.
Incidentally, those claims go all the way back to 2017,
when Trump's accusations were centered on Hillary Clinton
rather than Joe Biden.
It's interesting that both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden
were both apparently responsible for the exact same misdeed.
It's almost as if, and stick with me here,
that rather than stemming from any substantive evidence
of wrongdoing, Trump just lobs accusations
at his perceived enemies,
and that sometimes he lobs the same accusations
at different people,
because he is a profoundly uncreative man.
But he did come up with laptop from hell,
so I guess somewhere within that oversized suit
beats the heart of a poet.
The Hunter Biden sort of scandal is doubly valuable
to Republicans because it can be neatly wielded
by a number of ongoing right-wing narratives,
if you're sly enough.
That Joe Biden is a casual liar who's also oblivious
to what's happening around him.
The Democrats are perverts who also happen
to be soft on China.
That the media only provides one sided fake news
and that big tech is blocking the real truth
from sites like Facebook and Twitter
as part of a conspiracy to help Democrats,
just to name a few.
During a full 30 minute report
on Hunter Biden's connections to China
on his Fox News show in July,
adult teen sidekick Tucker Carlson
basically gave the whole game away,
functionally admitting that Huntergate
is an attempt by the right
to counter the Russiagate allegations.
Bottom line, this is gonna live online forever.
It's not going away.
Now, is it real?
We have no reason to believe any of these data are fabricated.
We've not independently verified them.
We're not putting some of this stuff on the air. It's salacious. Is it real? It's not. Not? Not real? Well,
I'm convinced. But come on, Tucker, what's the real story? Give it to us straight.
Why does this matter? But again, the real story is not that Hunter Biden is a crackhead who like
prostitutes and underage girls, although that appears to be very true and law enforcement should look into it.
Okay, so it's not the real story, but it is a story
and it's not, not, not, not, not, not real.
Also, everyone Google crack.
And if you don't believe it, try it yourself.
Type in Hunter Biden weighing crack on a scale,
which is out there.
Type that into Google and see what happens.
In this same segment, Tucker also hints
at Republicans potentially using Hunter Biden and investigations into
the laptop files to get revenge on Democrats for investigating Donald Trump, you know,
for all of his crimes. In their details, these stories bear a striking resemblance to the
Russiagate insanity that we were dragged through for years. Remember, they go on TV and bore you
for an hour with how all these things fit together and then this money went that way. But in the end, there
was nothing there. These threats have become a steady drumbeat in the wake of the FBI's raid
on Trump's Mar-a-Lago compound in Florida. You keep investigating our guy and we'll go after
your guy. Well, the son of your guy who we already investigated, but we'll do it again.
We never learn.
The point is the Hunter Biden allegations
aren't some newly discovered connection
that Joe Biden now needs to explain.
It's the same story it was in 2020.
Even if you find all of these Hunter revelations
largely believable, and most of them are,
we have every reason to believe that these files
only came to light as part of a misdirection campaign
orchestrated by right-wing operatives.
Because it was, they've told us it was.
And not to excuse any of the extremely gross piles of money
Hunter Biden was seemingly able to collect
because of his dad and how foreign governments
were slinging those extremely gross piles of money
his direction specifically to try and get access to his dad.
But the fact that this stuff only came out
because Republicans thought it would win them an election
is hugely frustrating.
It's as if, and stick with me here again,
they don't actually care about corruption
because they have absolutely no interest
in investigating infinitely more egregious
and credible allegations of corruption
when they're leveled against this oblong chud.
Remember John Paul Mac Isaac,
the guy who owned the laptop store
where an alcohol-soaked rag calling himself Hunter Biden
dropped off three computers
and then mysteriously never picked them up?
A series of journalists spoke with him
in the weeks after the first laptop stories ran,
and he couldn't really do a great job
of explaining how the backup files he made
found their way to associates of Rudy Giuliani,
who then passed them along to the New York Post.
I really don't want to acknowledge what you said,
but I don't want to say no comment anymore
because it's getting exhausting.
I don't know what to say. I can't talk about it. I don't want to talk about the timeline.
I don't want to talk about who reached out to who first. I mean, it's...
It's fun to dunk on Rudy Giuliani because he's short and old, so it's easy.
Also, he's a deeply embarrassing man
who stumbled ass backwards into fame
because he happened to be the mayor of New York City
on the day of the biggest terrorist attack
in American history.
Now, he's America's mayor,
the unofficial mascot of the worst day of New York's life.
Anyway, there's an argument that could be made
that a lot of this information,
at least as it pertains to Ukraine,
seems to have originated from a Russian associate
of Giuliani's named Andrei Derkach,
a man considered to be a Russian spy
by national security offices
in both the Trump and Biden administrations.
For reference, he's the guy in that famous photo
taken in Kiev in the fall of 2019
in which he's handing documents to Giuliani.
Documents that he claimed at the time
proved the Biden family was involved in Ukrainian corruption.
And yes, the US imposed sanctions on him in 2020
and the treasury department accused him
of being an active Russian agent for over a decade
who was using manipulation and deceit
to influence US elections.
And sure, shortly after the initial New York Post stories ran
Dukach advertised that he had a second laptop
that was soon going to come to light, but never materialized.
Wonder what happened to that top.
And okay, during the 2020 campaign,
Trump repeatedly promoted leaked audio recordings
of Vice President Biden speaking
with Ukrainian President Poroshenko in 2016,
which were originally obtained by Derkac,
although we still don't know how.
So sure, if you add up all of that,
it makes it seem like Derkac maybe isn't a trustworthy guy
and that maybe Giuliani and Trump were engaged
in a smidge, just a smidge of treason that produced the files that were allegedly stored
on the laptop from hell that Hunter Biden never picked up. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe there
never was a laptop, but that would mean Trump, Giuliani, Tucker Carlson, and several other
bulging white Republican men were just
lying about it to avoid revealing that they actually got the files from a Russian spy.
And that can't be the case.
Speaking of bulging white men, I know all you band nerds are out there wondering,
where my man Steven Bannon is at?
And you were right, band nerds.
You were right to wonder.
See, weeks before anything related to the Hunter laptop
appeared in the American press,
including that New York Post item,
a YouTube channel operated by a Chinese dissident streamer
teased that hard drives full of compromising information
about the Biden family and their connections
to the Chinese Communist Party
were on the verge of being made public.
That streamer has been linked in the past
with a Chinese billionaire named Guo Wangui, were on the verge of being made public. That streamer has been linked in the past
with a Chinese billionaire named Guo Wang Gui
who has direct ties to Steve Three Shirts Bannon.
Here's a photo of Bannon and Guo together
where he's definitely wearing at least two shirts.
You remember Tuckstruck saying something
about how the laptop included videos
of Hunter having sex with underage girls?
It turns out that was a thing that this Wang Wei guy
suggested they claim about the laptop
with zero actual evidence to back it up.
Fun, fucked up stuff.
There's also leaked audio of Bannon
recorded in late October, 2020,
speaking with exiled Chinese supporters of Guo
and basically taking credit
for making the Biden laptop story happen.
The plot, like Steve Bannon's abused bloodstream,
is thickening.
Part three, plead the fifth of Jameson.
All of this additional context
sure makes it seem like there's probably more
to the Hunter Biden scandal than just some laptops
full of politically damaging information
and also naked pics that got dropped off
at a store and then never picked up.
Again, super weird that Hunter just abandoned three laptops
loaded with personally and professionally sensitive material
at a random repair shop.
It almost seems like he wouldn't do that.
So let's just say for the sake of argument,
that Republicans and right wing operatives
are behind the whole Hunter Biden laptop story
and had underhanded motives in pursuing the story
and releasing it when they did.
That still doesn't mean it's not true
or that these files don't contain proof of illegal activity
that may implicate the current president.
In the rush to defend their candidate
in the heat of an election season
and label any negative story Russian disinformation,
it certainly seems like liberals were a bit overzealous
in trying to block the story entirely
rather than just addressing it head on.
Even though it sort of seems like
it might genuinely have had something to do
with Russian disinformation, at least on some level.
Hunter Biden undeniably broke the law,
at least in some mundane ways,
like banging seven-gram rocks and lying on a form.
You know, the little mild-mannered law-breaking
that most of us do every day.
That said, the federal tax investigation against him
is wrapping up and may have discovered more inconsistencies
in terms of how he was keeping track of his complex
and multifaceted web of earnings for not doing actual work.
There's also a compelling list of evidence
that Hunter entered into a long string of business deals
and arrangements in at least two foreign countries
that posed obvious conflicts of interest,
considering his dad's, you know, big and important job.
Hunter Biden will admit to this freely
if you ask him about it, albeit in a wordy
and roundabout fashion, like an NFL player trying
to explain his character's motivation
in a Scorpion King sequel.
But you're right, I created a perception,
and a perception that was wielded against us
in an incredibly wild and conspiratorial way.
Taken together, the laptop evidence paints a picture of an increasingly desperate addict
trading on his father's name as often as he could to score consulting fees from anyone who would
pony up some cash, possibly by suggesting that he could convince his dad to make government policy
changes. That's pretty fucked.
But over and over again, we're getting a picture of a guy
who couldn't or wouldn't deliver on those promises.
Whatever you choose to believe,
there's no real credible evidence that Joe Biden
ever acted on any of Hunter's business interests
specifically.
There's very little to suggest he even knew
about all of the deals and promises his kid was making during the Obama years.
The best Tucker Carlson could do
was dredge up this answer
from the first 2020 presidential debate.
My son has not made money
in terms of this thing about,
what are you talking about, China.
I have not had,
the only guy who made money from China is this guy.
If you read this as Joe Biden denying
that his son Hunter ever made any money in China,
then that's almost certainly not true.
The links between Hunter Biden and multiple Chinese firms,
including BHR and CEFC, are fairly clear at this point.
But if you read this as a denial that Joe himself
ever made any money from these China deals,
then it may very well be true.
Biden repeated a similar answer earlier in the debate.
And in fact, it's talking about me taking money.
I have not taken a single penny
from any country whatsoever, ever.
It seems like this is a canned line
meant to shift the focus from Hunter's China deals
over to Trump's rather than outright denying
that Hunter was doing any business in China,
which would be a silly thing to deny
because it was publicly available information.
But it's the closest to an outright lie
that the Fox Newsmax Brigade has yet trotted out.
Part four, a media Halloween.
In some ways, Huntergate is the ideal scandal
for this moment in politics,
despite the presence of initially tantalizing
Hulu limited series-esque elements
like drugs, gunplay, and sex workers.
In reality, it's a convoluted financial racket
with a lot of boring details to run down
and unfamiliar names to memorize.
There's enough of a hook for people to recall
the existence of a Hunter Biden conspiracy,
but not enough of a hook for them to know anything about it.
But Democrats are partly to blame for the longevity
and appeal of this scandal because of how hard they tried
to completely stonewall it.
Now it's widely seen as too hot for TV,
a dangerous news story that Democrats
don't want you to know about.
Like an episode of Silk Stockings.
Remember Silk Stockings? So I fucking don of Silk Stockings. Remember Silk Stockings?
I fucking don't.
What the fuck is Silk Stockings?
Roll a clip.
And as we learn these stunning new developments
about the investigation,
remember when the media insisted the story
was just no big deal, it was all,
you got it, Russian disinformation.
This is a huge selling point for the story
in right-wing media.
Learning more about Hunter Biden may be incredibly dull,
but hey, it'll trigger those libs.
Plus it must be true because otherwise,
why would Democrats have spent so much time arguing
that it was obviously Russian disinformation?
And why would the New York Times refuse to investigate?
And why would Twitter ban discussion about it
on their platform?
And why would we only hear about it on their platform? And why would we only
hear that some of the laptop emails had been verified after the presidential election?
And now both the Washington Post, the New York Times, all of a sudden verified this information.
Of course, there's no mystery here. This is a major, massive CYA. According to the Wall Street
Journal, the criminal investigation into Hunter Biden is
heating up and he could soon face serious criminal charges. So they say, uh-oh, we might be caught
covering up for the Bidens again. We better act like we reported on this story. It won't work.
And as much as it pains me to say this.
me to say this,
Sean, had a heat
as a point.
The Washington Post didn't have any evidence at the time
that the laptop story was disinformation.
And Hunter Biden absolutely got paid boatloads of cash
by a Chinese investment firm to do fuck all
as best anyone can tell.
Categorically denying all of that out of pocket
wasn't the best move for Democrats
because it forces humble newsboys like me
to say things like,
Sean,
Tony,
has a
point.
But Sean is also being disingenuous
because he simply cannot help himself.
No mainstream outlets have completely verified everything
on the Biden laptop.
And the entire story about the Mac store guy
getting three entire Hunter Biden laptops
and handing the files over to Rudy Giuliani
might be extremely fake.
So the article that Hannity and the New York Post
are pointing to as an admission that the laptop is real,
doesn't actually say that.
Plus when mainstream news outlets make the case
that the emails and text messages
contained in the laptop files weren't newsworthy,
they're not entirely wrong.
Remember that first New York Post item
was about Hunter's work on behalf
of Ukrainian gas giant Burisma,
a relationship that had already been public knowledge.
Joe Biden challenged someone to a pushup contest
for bringing it up in 2019.
Despite all of the self-righteous bluster,
the emails weren't actually a smoking gun,
and they don't prove that Joe Biden
met with anyone in particular or did anything on their behalf. Their newsworthiness on the eve of
a national election is, at best, debatable. After the shit blizzard of the 2016 election,
which had famously been tainted by disinformation and alleged attempts by foreign governments to
influence the outcome, it's understandable that media outlets would be extra cautious about this info dump of conveniently
timed opposition research arriving just weeks before ballots were cast in 2020.
They would be bad journalists if they weren't at least a little suspicious.
Bear in mind, too, most of these outlets didn't run with the Christopher Steele dossier and
its infamous P-Tape allegations
in the days before the 2016 election either.
The only media organization
that published the entire dossier was Buzzfeed
two months after the election,
and they explicitly noted that it was unverified.
Plus they ran it next to a quiz designed to determine
which Disney character would be most likely to appear
in your piss tape.
I got Mrs. Potts.
Rest in peace.
So, you know, not exactly all the president's men.
Even so, there wasn't a total media blackout
on any discussion of the charges
against Hunter Biden pre-election.
In fact, some mainstream outlets, including NBC News,
claim their staff
tried to obtain laptop files to report on them prior to the election, but were denied access
to the documents they wanted. Some aspects of the social media blackout have also been overblown in
the subsequent two years since the laptop story broke. Facebook initially limited distribution
of the story on its platform while fact-checkers reviewed the claims.
CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently told Joe Rogan
that this strategy was partially influenced by the FBI,
which warned the company about misinformation
ahead of the 2020 election.
The usual voices came out to insist
this was new and horrifying evidence
of high-level corruption, censorship, and coordination
between Democrats in the government and the press
and big tech, but that's a little overblown.
It was just a general warning and a pretty reasonable one
for all the reasons we've already discussed.
And considering how media disinformation led
to a full blown riot and coup attempt two months later,
it seems even more reasonable.
And it's important to clarify that Facebook
just limited distribution of the story.
The story wasn't blocked.
The number of Facebook users that would see
Hunter Biden links were limited,
which delayed the story from making it
into the social network's algorithm,
and thus trending nationwide and worldwide.
But Hunter Biden articles were still shared, linked,
or commented on 600,000 times
in their first day on Facebook,
according to the research tool CrowdTangle.
Twitter went a good deal further.
On October 14th, the day the New York Post published
the first laptop story,
CEO Jack Dorsey blocked the article entirely
from the platform without any specific explanation.
Twitter claimed at the time
that it violated the company's terms of service
regarding hacked material
that includes personal and private information.
Just two days later on the 16th,
the company backtracked
and allowed the article to be shared freely.
Dorsey later referred to the decision
to ban the article for those two days as a total mistake.
And Twitter has since changed its policy on hacked materials
to only remove content entirely
if it's being distributed directly
by the hackers themselves, which that seems weird, right?
Seems like sharing private personal information
that was obtained illegally should be blocked
no matter where it comes from.
I guess you were right the first time. Jack Dorsey, man, this episode is really testing my blood vessels and
heart rate. Despite claims that big tech colluded with the Biden administration and violated campaign
finance laws, in 2021, the FEC ruled unanimously that Twitter had done nothing wrong by temporarily limiting the spread of the post
as it did so for valid commercial reasons.
I'm really uncomfortable with the government
deciding something was legal and good
just because it was done for valid commercial reasons,
but that's a bearded rant for another time.
But having said all of that,
there does seem to have been an overabundance of caution here
in talking about the Hunter situation,
and it clearly triggered a Streisand effect,
giving the story more appeal
because it was seen as dangerous or banned.
Jumping to declare something an obvious case
of Russian disinformation before all the facts are available
makes that a toothless accusation. And that's bad of Russian disinformation before all the facts are available makes that a toothless accusation.
And that's bad because Russian disinformation
is a credible threat.
Your mileage may vary regarding how much of a threat
you view it to be, but it's a real thing.
The next time Democrats encounter real Russian disinformation,
because let's face it,
Republicans gorge themselves on Russian disinformation
like sloppy hogs in the hot Carolina sun.
We might not be able to convince anyone now
because Democrats are the boy who cried compromise.
Whether you think it was high treason for Jack Dorsey
to stop Republicans from making Hunter Biden
sound extra cool and dangerous for two days,
or you don't care at all,
the coverup is worse than the crime
is an old cliche for a reason.
Okay, let's wrap it up.
Part five, conclusion.
Where does this all leave us?
Well, in terms of actual go to jail offenses,
there may not be a ton of heat to these allegations.
Unpacking it piece by piece meticulously,
which we just did,
it sounds more like fairly standard nepotism,
an upwards failing rich kid
lucking into six figure E jobs
rather than a Tom Clancy novel of international intrigue.
That isn't to downplay it
or say it shouldn't be investigated,
which it is and was,
but it's super hard not to look at this
in comparison to the Trump family
and the many crimes that happened during that presidency
and know that those crimes were objectively worse.
It's hard to care about Hunter Biden
when you've been numbed to seeing Trump scandal
after Trump scandal go unpunished.
In some ways, it's not even about partisan politics
as much as being desensitized to a lack of accountability.
But if we're not allowed to talk about this,
that makes it seem more real, not less.
That's why we're talking about this.
So rather than stamping out these stories when they come up,
Democrats might do better to just address them honestly.
And perhaps that way we can address all politicians
and their families having jobs
that create these conflicts of interest.
Because boy, they, both sides do this a lot.
So I'm all for holding politicians responsible,
including Joe Biden and Trump, obviously.
Jail every president, even the dead ones.
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