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Episode Date: August 12, 2022

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Wild. I'm going to look that up. It's been a while since we fake commented about how weird it is that this is the only news podcast. According to the search engine of America, from the government's website, you're right. I am. Hi, I'm Cody, by the way.

Hi. Yeah, you are. You are, Cody. Our guest today, return champion, not champion, return friend. Return champion. Physician and host of the medical podcast, The House of Pod, Kaveh H pod cave joda yes yes not the first

but it might be the last medical podcast because we might shut it down it might be like forbidden after us no more podcasts or no more medical podcasts medical podcasting i don't think i'm powerful enough to destroy other podcasts ultimately i think the goal is no more podcasts okay well wait a, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Because, look, there's only one news podcast, and that feels like something that we need these days. I don't know if you've seen the news lately, but boy.

No, what's on the news? What is it? What's it about? You know, this season is a little hard to keep track of, to be honest. Actually, I'm not not gonna do that joke because i don't like politics as a tv show oh yeah you're right yeah i've really lost the plot line oh speaking of that today august 11th is national presidential joke day let's get out all those brandon jokes yeah the joke like the guy in the white house yeah old joe is the

joke uh joke biden joke huh any president biden ah get out of here i have absolutely no idea or what dark brandon is can someone explain that that thing to me no yeah brandon please i know the let's go brandon thing there's some chant and I got that do you know where that came yeah there was some sort of like chant and people were like saying fuck Joe Biden but their reporter was like trying to play it off yeah I kind of got that I suspect the reporter simply misheard because a crowd full of people uh screaming screaming and she's like oh I'm talking to a guy named Brandon surely it couldn't be some random fuck joe biden chant but whatever it doesn't matter so yeah uh dark brandon is just um it's the idea that joe biden a sleepy man who doesn't really want to be the president it seems at times is actually like you

know gonna go uh full uh like authoritarian do what needs to be done take the reins of all the levers of government mixing metaphors there and take care of business right you know as dark brandon does you know business so it's this whole confusing thing of like him being a total inept like senile old man but somehow this dark wizard who's behind all the evil machinations of the government. Oh, I think it's more positive than that. It's more like dark Brandon gets shit done with the lasers from his eyes. It started as not positive because Brandon doesn't get shit done. And the idea of him getting shit done, especially in like a forceful way, is just silly.

Listen to him talk. He's a sleepy old man. It's fine. We're all, you know, everybody's going to be a sleepy old person one day, but he's the president. And so the idea originally was that it would be ridiculous if he was this guy.

And then whenever he does something, then, you know, the party and the Joe Biden stands, I guess, come out and sort of retaking it for their own to be about when he actually does something gotcha but it started out as like the idea that like would be ridiculous if it was this guy you know this whole explanation is a perfect setup and punchline for national presidential joke day like the joke in the White House. The dang OAPIS, right? Bang. Nailed him. Nailed him.

No more president. That's how it works. Good. August 12th. It's National Middle Child Day. Anybody here a middle child? No, but one of my siblings is. Hey.

Happy Middle Child Day to that sibling. And congratulations on the new child. Which one? The middle one new child which one the middle one my brother is the middle one oh my god I almost said your sister but I always forget that Cody are you the youngest or the oldest yeah I'm the youngest

too Katie yeah youngest wow that's yeah wow you're the youngest Jonathan I am look at us. That says something. That says something. It really does say something.

I don't know why, but it says something. All of us. Just need that attention. Just need that attention. Little entitled fucks who grew up. I'd like to reiterate my ultimate goal of eliminating all podcasting from the world. That's great. All right.

Anyway, happy that day to the middle children also world elephant day it says here oh yeah it is world elephant day yeah yeah elephants are all right hell yeah that's right it's not true elephants are great so you prepared a statement nope i actually am reading that now i read this a few times and i don't know why, because here's the thing. Jonathan, this is you've done impeccable work as always. But it's not August 12th is National Middle Child Day and that's written out normal. And then World Elephant Day is a hyperlink. So it's like a link to the page.

I think in my brain, I was like, that's just the article about National Middle Child Day. I went to. that's just the article about national middle child day i linked to it's a tweet it's a it's a 10 like tweet from ap planner that says tomorrow's world elephant day just in case you doubted in case you think i'm just putting unsourced shit into our notes no ap planner tweeted this out so i can verify that world elephant day is kind of a thing whereas national presidential joke day is some made-up nonsense. Do you see the distinction? I do now.

I do. Absolutely. Oh, boy, we have fun, don't we? It's a beautiful hyperlink. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. As if we haven't been chit-chatting enough. Kaveh, how are you?

We know that you have a new life change that's been keeping you up at night. Yes, yes. I've taken up uh having babies yeah and it's an expensive hobby but i hear it's rewarding i just keep doing it did your new child did your new child make your former youngest child a middle child is this it it did and it's going to be really fascinating to see how that plays out, because he was as youngest a child as youngest children get. I'm really fascinated to see what kind of psychological trauma this does to him. Well, you've really steered him away from a career in podcasting if data is to be believed. If this N of four is to be believed, this study, this small study that we have here.

Well, yeah, it's I had a kid and it's been very interesting and it's been fun and hard. And I'm running on caffeine and reflex at this point. Yeah. I mean, I'm grateful that you were able to spare some time to chat with us today. Oh, of course of course i mean they can be okay for a couple hours on their own you know yeah right because they're not at this point there's not much movement like and if we're being honest yeah there's not that much i can do other than change diapers at this point i mean i've tried not no milk comes out of these. A little whiskey if I squeeze

real hard. But I can't give that to the baby. That might be good when they're teething or is that just an old wives tale? Like you rub some whiskey on the gums, you know? Yeah, we don't do that anymore. But I believe that they did. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I again, never been a parent not looking good that I will be. So recently on your show, you had a discussion about research into psychedelics as a potential treatment for for psychiatric conditions. And we are very at the show. We are very pro psychedelics and whatnot. are very pro psychedelics and whatnot. How do you think this conversation has changed? For multiple reasons. It's different. Multiple reasons.

But, you know, just in my own personal life, I know so many people that have started to, you know, explore this a little bit for themselves within reason. Right. Do you see this loosening up in the near future? Yeah. You know, I think it's inevitable that we're going to get some small decriminalization of these things. I think we really have to, to study them well,

because right now it's hard to have good studies on things that are illegal. You know, the studies are small and it's hard to get the good results that you want, or at least the power of a study if it's small. So it will get better with time. I'll be honest with you, from my discussion, this last discussion I had on the show with a toxicologist and a psychiatrist who are both excellent, there is some evidence for psychedelics in psychiatric illness and using them in therapeutic ways. But it's probably getting a little bit more hype than it really seems to warrant. I'm still hopeful that we're going to find good uses for some of these treatments or treatments for these things, because I do think there is some promise. And I've heard some good anecdotal stories from people.

because I do think there is some promise. And I've heard some good anecdotal stories from people. But so far, it's certainly not the panacea. It's certainly not the incredible cure that it's getting credit for. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on right now that they're pushed. There's a lot of these weird pushes that also kind of make me a little skeptical. Like the people, ketamine is a very, very cheap drug, for example, right? And now there's this whole renewed interest in ketamine. But it's kind of coming from this new company that is funding studies that is making a nasal

variation of it, a nasal spray. So there is like, you know, even for like psychedelics, which we think of as like, you know, something outside of the norm of the pharmaceutical industry, something that should be like maybe, you know, a little bit less sketchy, for example, than a big pharma. There's still that behind it too. You have to take what you hear in pop culture and in news stories about psychedelics in treatment with a little grain of salt too, and look at the data carefully. I mean, we have to be really sober-minded when we look at the things. This all being said, I'm for decriminalization of most of the drugs that we talked about.

But whether or not they become useful in terms of medications, I don't know. And I remain a little skeptical. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I mean, think about this. I mean, I am. I agree with you probably completely. Score. Probably completely.

Score. Any, I mean, I personally have found it to be lovely to every so often have a microdose psilocybin thing. I find that to be really grounding. It's not something that makes you high or anything like that. But that said, again, it's not a treatment for something. It's just a destigmatization and exploration on something for your own personal self so when we talk about on here i want to make sure people know that this is all very individual and not suggesting everybody goes out and get high all

the time you know right that's what i'm here for that's what cody's influence is go out and get high all the time and it should also be noted that these things you know for the most part they're pretty benign but none of them are without risk and right and it is it is definitely not for everybody I definitely don't recommend it universally so I it is something to be taken very seriously if you do it yeah yeah yeah and the point that you also bring up to be wary of but part of what's happening around us is like I get so many targeted Instagram ads for different treatments. And it's just the monetization, the marketing. All of this is just people selling, selling, selling something to you. And I'm not about that.

I am about decriminalization and, you know, yeah. And destigmatization. Yeah. That's a mouthful. I didn't. Nailed it. i don't know that i did i don't know if i told this story on the show yet but we did a episode around christmas time about some good news and we talked about some of the the research into psilocybin and and psychedelics and i did the whole segment calling it psilocybin, which is not its name. And nobody caught it because I said it was such confidence that they thought I must be right.

And then our editor tells us. So I had to ADR like 15. It was a bunch. Yeah. Because there was no way we could reshoot the whole fucking thing. Yeah. Because there was no way we could reshoot the whole fucking thing. When you have to do that, when you have to punch in like things like that, do you do you like put on your your actor hat and get into it like you're like back and you put yourself back in the conversation? So they'll string out.

Thankfully, we don't have to do it this off that often on the show. But, you know, and other projects are in movies. They'll put you in a sound booth, but they string out the part that you need to match maybe once or twice and so you can give it a couple goes and you say it along with it but i mimic everything i'm doing i mimic my hand movement my hand tilt all of it because it's all part of it yeah it looks silly the role of katie that's great but i'm doing this trying to say i'm trying to record psilocybin but in a way that matches my mouth saying psilocybin yeah it can be really awkward when you're trying to fit like a short word into a long space that like it doesn't belong in yeah oh gosh okay yeah well thank you for listening to that

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Before we talked about the news, while we have you, we have yet to address monkeypox on this show. And we'd like to get your thoughts on it. There's still this debate going on about how best to message about it, you know, which communities are affected. And again, there's been a lot of conversations about access to vaccines and treatments. What do you think should be the top priority right now in regards to monkeypox? You know, I think it's going to, it's clear that we should have learned some pretty easy lessons by this point. And the big one for me is, is the testing and vaccination. And I think if we're able to do that, we're going to be okay. We're

not going to get to zero cases. I think our window, unfortunately, of eradicating it's gone. We lost that. But I think it's clear that we can use testing to help control it. And I think that's what we need to keep working on. It's been, as you guys probably have heard, testing has been difficult. It's been really quite onerous on the physician. Like at the beginning, when they first suspected it, they'd have to like call the state, talk to some sort of like official there, go over the case. Then you would have to be couriered over somehow. You have to figure out a way to do that. Now we have commercially available tests. The testing should become easier. It's still rolling out and not quite simple everywhere, but there appears to be more focus on that now,

which is good. And I think once that happens, I think we're going to be in a better place. I think that's definitely, that's for me, the major thing we need to focus on is testing and then vaccination. And then we have to talk about treatment, of course, or T-box. Yeah, there just have been so many stories of people that have been seeking treatment and the doctors haven't known what they were looking at because the information hasn't been available and or they've been turned away or treated for something entirely wrong and delayed their i mean delayed their actual treatment by months yeah and it sounds awful but yeah yeah i mean it's not our first time failing this community uh and you know

it it's something that you know we talk about the medical history of what, you know, how we've served minorities poorly. And one of those minorities that we've served very poorly is the gay community. And right now, you know, we should talk about like the stigma that they have to deal with with this. that they have to deal with this. But, you know, frankly, the truth is we're lucky it's that community that is the first to address this because they're also like the most responsible. They're doing their best to get tested. They're getting vaccinated when it's possible. I have received so much more information about this from the gay community

than I have from the medical community, at least up until within the last few weeks when, you know, headlines start coming out and more articles. But I was seeing posts from the gay community for the past couple of months, you know, my friends and loved ones, and they were the ones sharing the information and it is so unfair how it gets stigmatized as you know personal failing or whatever you know when you're right the gay community is much more uh proactive and on top of their sexual well-being and their sexual health you know yeah yeah and having even to frame it as that because it's not like a sexually transmitted disease no it's not yeah i mean it's it's more than that i mean it's like it's not doesn't technically meet the criteria for that i mean there is some it is mostly spread through

that's how we're seeing it right now through intimate physical contact during sex, but it is not a sexually transmitted illness, at least not in that traditional sense. Right. Yeah. And then, I mean, it's a difficult thing because we have to sort of be careful and toe the line. And on one hand, we have to be clear about the community that this is most affecting, at least right now, because we need to be able to figure out how to help that community the best. It's just that because of such a bad track record we have in the medical community of addressing that group of people, it definitely taints the situation and makes this a little more difficult. Again, it's something that we have to reckon with as doctors and address. And I don't think, unless we're able to be open about that and talk about it, I don't think we're going to be doing

our best work. Okay, now I think it's time for us to get to some other news, non-health-related news. Are you sure? I bet I could find a way that's related. I bet you could. That's the challenge I posed to you throughout this episode. So the CDC said, you know, what's not healthy is having a search warrant served to you by

the FBI. Jonathan coming up so fast with that transition. That was good. Going to give you an ulcer unless that's not how people get ulcers. Yeah. Don't throw out your back cleaning your files. No, that's not. Don't throw out your back cleaning your files no that's yeah don't don't throw out your back cleaning your files definitely don't do that just let them take it think about the poor fbi agents and how many like mcdonald's wrappers they had to wade through and probably

slipped on some ketchup packets and someone probably got hurt that's probably greasy papers you probably know by now that donald trump's mar-a-lago resort was served a search warrant by the fbi earlier this week his poor beautiful home he wasn't there but he was very angry he said it was a politically motivated raid that they even broke into my safe um this is funny detail to include it's a very funny detail this is all probably related to be about all of those all that material that he stole

from the White House and the National Archives when he left office the National Archives got a bunch of those boxes of materials back months ago but then they found out that there were classified materials in those boxes of materials back months ago but then they found out that there were classified materials in those boxes and let the justice department know the justice department's been

conducting an investigation since apparently tried to subpoena these documents back and after not getting a response for months got a search warrant and went in there and then finally before we open it up for discussion attorney general merrick garland today gave a brief statement where he said he's seeking to unseal portions of that warrant so we can see exactly what they were looking for and maybe if anyone any witnesses talked to them and this seems to be a kind of dare to trump to ask those to be remain sealed since it would kind of pour water all over his claim that there's nothing there yeah oh boy this has been a real week on twitter hasn't it i mean oh yeah we love a good fbi raid of the president uh yeah i don't know we'll see right we it's a

lot of speculation about what's going on and we don't know exactly what they were looking for or what they found nor does he i mean he does he has a copy of information that he could release that indicates like yeah here's like what they were doing well right and he's not gonna release that which doesn't mean anything necessarily i think it's funny partially because i think it's a mix like the file thing is it seems to be a mix of there's some stuff he wanted to keep because he doesn't want anyone to have it and he didn't know he couldn't take that right like it's like oh i wanted my little stuff i my little my gifts and things it's always the thing with him is it like how dumb are you i think this is like he has very clearly shown over

the last like how many years uh that he's not he doesn't care much for keeping records or keeping track of of notes like what i had always heard was that like he was like tearing up notes. And his aides were like, no, you can't do that. That's like an important letter. You're supposed to keep that. It's supposed to go to like the National Archives. And he would just like flush things down the toilet. Like the toilet.

Yeah, he'd flush stuff down the toilet. Boy, it's so fun to get confirmation of that. Right. I mean, there's a real toilet fixation with that guy. I remember him talking about the flushing of toilets and i guess this all makes sense well i think yeah that's why right what we suspected were it was his massive dumps but no it's the files that he's probably to be fair combination he's ever swallowing the paper it might exactly i read that oh some of the files some of the

documents they got back from him were like ripped up and taped back together yeah well yeah that's what they they talk about in you know i think that's all in maggie's book yeah i'm sure it is uh inauguration day it was just chaos because everybody had been working so hard on the 2020 election you know denying it and trying to invalidate it that they didn't pack up the fucking palace but yeah a scrambling of notes being taped back together and trying to have it organized just chaos there's so much i don't even know where to begin all the different things of course there's the right wing reaction but i love i mean i know what he's doing in his statement he's comparing you know this hasn't happened since

watergate and i know he's i mean nixon was guilty the raid you know i don't know i just don't think it's smart of him to compare himself to this in any capacity well he's a huge nixon fan like they would they exchanged they exchanged letters when he was a younger man after like after nixon was president he like got the exchange letters so you know i don't think he cares right it's not like like oh don't mention nixon's like he doesn't give a shit he's mentioned nixon as much universally reviled person though but not to him and i also i know there's all these reports you know he's freaking out wondering if who's wearing a wire who's the mole you know people who are innocent and have nothing to hide tend to worry and uh about whether or not people in their inner circle are wearing a

wire that is a real testament to a pure conscience yeah right he sounds like a mafia boss he oh yeah but you know what the the funny thing to me about all this is like like you know of course i find it hilarious and and i'm not gonna lie like i take glee in it as well but like seeing like how excited people on twitter are getting that like oh he's good now we've got him he's good. Now we've got him. He's going to jail. We're finally going to see him behind bars. I mean, come on. Honestly, okay, I'm probably wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure no rich person has ever gone to jail, maybe with the exception of Martha Stewart.

Like, I can't think of another rich person who's gone, much less someone like him, you know? Like, maybe outside some open league. I got one for you. Who? Lori Loughlin. Oh, yeah. yeah and bill cosby he went to bill cosby briefly went to jail but your point is very well taken yeah it's like whatever the consequences are it's gonna be fine presidents like that's for dang sure because also it opens up like okay well

there are other criminals like it's it's just it's interesting to go at like we're gonna go after trump we're gonna take that down this trump guy's like you know a lot of other people do the stuff that trump does he's just obnoxious about it right we shouldn't let the most high profile criminal get away with crimes sure but how does this affect us long term in elections and whatnot i mean i in one of our Google Hangouts, somebody posed the question. I think I've mentioned this on our the actual show before. Who are you more afraid of, Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis? And I think I might be more.

I don't know. Ron DeSantis is very scary to me. I'm not afraid of either. I'll take both of them. Take him down one fell swoop, I will. Yeah, I don't know. Not that that's a reason. I don't know.

There's just all sorts of big picture questions that start to pop up. But we have to see what actually happens. Yeah, who knows what they're doing and why they're doing it. And like, it's probably, you know, it's related to a lot of things. Like, he's a criminal in many ways for a lot of different reasons yeah they just got they just probably got alex jones's texts right like it's all this sort of stuff um explain that you were talking about that yesterday oh i mean they got his text right yeah but you think that might you think there might be some it's probably not related

to this specifically just because it would have been like a very quick turnaround right yeah like oh they just got them and now we got to go raid the place but like right all of his information is like cross-pollinated it's not like i keep i keep this crime in this safe i keep the other crimes over here in the text like it's all gonna be kind of a mishmash um yeah so i don't think the text were necessarily like the impetus for this but but it could be in the periphery. I mean, it's something they've been working on for a while, is my guess. And something that I actually my understanding of it, and I could be wrong, was that they had been working with the National Archives have been trying to get stuff back. They had been trying for a while without success. And then they were able to apply enough pressure to get the boxes back. And then when they got the box, some of the material back, they realized there was stuff in there that should not have been there.

And that is what prompted or set this off. I mean, this is the kind of thing that sounds like they had to have a lot of ducks in a row to go for. So I assume this has been something they've been building since he left. Right. It's not like everyone's like, oh, this is so careless of them. It's this political move and it's going to ruin X and Y and like put him on the in the forefront, not in the defense or whatever. Would they really?

I don't know. It seems like they're very careful people when they when they want to be. Yeah. The truth is, is that we really don't know what all of the rationale or, you know, exact specifics. We don't know anything. What we do know is that the FBI is bad now or very good or depending on how you feel about Donald Trump. That's a good transition, Cody. That's what I've loved seeing is that like a bunch of people are now like defund the FBI and then like occupy Democrats is like thank the FBI for maintaining the rule of law. It happens every single time.

It's so funny every time. Everyone's a hypocrite. Also, well, yeah. And also just like let's let's maybe not get duped into thinking that Republicans think that the FBI is bad. No. Like, I don't think that they're talking about, like, how the FBI, they fucking, like, they killed Martin Luther King. Like, no, no, no, no. They raided their dopey president that they did, tried an insurrection about.

Like, that's why they're mad at the FBI. direction about like that's why they're mad at the fbi and if they anyone who's saying abolish the fbi defund the fbi anybody who's saying that what they would actually want to do is institute a new a new organization that's exactly like the fbi that like murders communists for them like that's what they want to do uh as if the fbi isn already doing that for them. But why can't we have the agency that just goes after the people? I don't exactly like it's just so funny to see some people be like, oh, we should like take this as an opportunity. Like they're finally the Republicans agree. The FBI is bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They want to kill you. Yeah. And they'll use their new FBI to do it. This is not anything to take seriously uh from from them no it's so i mean it's mostly just an opportunity to make fun of liberals you know and yes to be pissed about this it is fun and you know not for nothing trump himself signed a law that made it a felony for government officials to remove classified information oh it's extremely funny um that's the thing like everyone's like oh the fbi is bad though don't get don't praise the f

it's like yeah obviously the fbi is bad this is funny though it's extremely funny the lock her up president i mean got raided by the fbi that's fucking hilarious um and now he's like oh we live in a third world country because we're going after our political opponents now. Like, give me a break, man. Get the fuck out of here. It's so funny. Also, didn't he authorize audits of James Comey and, I don't know, Andrew McCabe or whatever? I don't know. He immediately fired the guy who was investigating him.

He was like, this guy's investigating me. You're fired. like this guy's investigating me you're fine it is it is hard to talk about this with people or see the reactions online and not be like you motherfuckers you remember this it wasn't that long ago what are you saying do you recognize what you're saying but yeah there's no point in having that conversation. Of course not. Do you guys worry at all about retaliation? I mean, I know there was an attack on a Cincinnati FBI office with a nail gun. I didn't entirely understand that. It was a nail gun and an AK-47, right? Yeah.

That's a weird car. I actually do. It was an AR-15? I think it was an AR-15. Very much. It was an AK-47. All right, come on. I'm not going to stay up at night worrying about it, but I do think that it is something

to be concerned about, especially with all the talk of civil war online. I mean, Steven Crowder has been tweeting about war. It's a clown man. We don't need to care about what clown man says well but some people care but yes some people care but on reddit i just mean like they're i they're absolutely could be some reason to be concerned for that but i yeah i mean i there i think so in jet like just in the sense that like we're a volatile nation uh very polarized and there are people who are going to do things like that kind of no matter what i'm not worried that scott adams uh dilbert's

dad is going to lead a revolution right uh he was tweeting like two days ago he was like i'm i'm putting the fbi on notice and he gives like 48 hours later he's like well time's up fbi now no one's brief waiting or like it's just like he's like what are you gonna do man he's two now yeah we're two which is just like tweeting from his dilbert shaped pool that he has has there been um any word from q lately no probably i don't know i'm not up to date all the time or never again i don't know it's not the only thing going on in donald trump's world this week he's a busy guy he also it's got to be tired it's got to be getting to him he took the fifth this week in his testimony to the new york attorney's general um and that was the investigation into the apparent fraud committed

by the Trump organization. And that's fun, of course, because we have to remember how not very long ago, Trump said that the only people who take the fifth are you take the fifth if you're guilty. What? Wait a second. Are you saying there's a tweet for everything? There is. He actually watched it. He says, I once asked if you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment? Now I know the answer to that question. When your family, your company and all the people in your orbit have become the targets of an unfounded, politically motivated witch hunt supported by lawyers, prosecutors and the fake news media, you have no choice.

That's so specific. So most people who played the fifth are guilty but if you find yourself fake news is after them under attack by the fake news media then it is appropriate to plead the fifth it's so funny just rolling out the hits he just it's like for him it's just like they man there's no new information no new act no new shtick that's the one thing that makes me think he he's he's done because he's got nothing new yeah he's got nothing new he's innovated over the last you know decade or so in this eye he's he's got a little static well he he honed it in because he's run for president before a couple of times he honed it in and he's

like all right 2016 is my year the perfect guy for this yeah and now yeah he's like yeah exactly like a greatest hits album we don't need to we'll just watch the old clips man yeah man we go a water bottle and rubio come on i've seen we should introduce a new character because it's like a late season of a new show so we need like a new trump character to make him fresh and like really yeah you know race the broody character in the the cosby show we need de sandis to start acting goofier and just be like like like trying to be a weirdo he's such a serious man i'd be interested to see him like because he's doing all he does he's good at the trump policy stuff good at whatever like the fact he's a good like fascist american candidate

but like he doesn't but he doesn't have like the charisma or the goofiness of trump and i think that might be key to uh to really harnessing the because america is a silly nation and i think you need a little bit of that goofiness to really sell the like we're fascist now for sure they're all bad guys yeah we need levity uh i do think it's funny that this i'll just i don't want to harp on this plead the fifth fucking take of his but like it's incredible and he'll never be asked about this to his face on camera or anything like that but it's incredible to see like a president to be like i understand why one of those like the 10 like the first 10 i understand the bill of rights now like it's just such a funny thing for a president to be like,

after he was the president, two years later, he's like, you know what? I think I finally understand the Fifth Amendment now. He's like, yeah, Hamilton or Jefferson or whoever must have been upset at CNN or something. Right, exactly. You're finally grasping this

in the exact wrong way. But you were president two years ago man it's it's it's been time it's been more than long enough god only two years and already two years it's such a funny thing for him to say weird time i finally get it i'm sorry no i get it cody this is a safe space to process all of your emotions and reactions to the world we're living in. Well, hi there. You know, some things just get better with age. A leather jacket, a fine line, pumpkins. But would you believe that your bedsheets can also improve over time?

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inflation reduction act the inflation reduction act passed Senate. It's expected to pass the House Friday, maybe when this comes out. Jonathan, is it expected to reduce inflation? Oh, no. No, no. That's just the title. Oh, okay, okay. Please continue. They expect inflation to go down on its own, and then when it does, they can be like, huh?

Huh? Nice. There are pluses of this bill. Because I know it doesn't do so much of what we want, but I do think we should highlight some of the pluses. It's a significant investment in reducing the effects of climate change, about $370 billion. A lot of different tax credits.

Greenhouse gas emissions in 2030, with this all in there, will be 40% below 2005 levels if Congress enacts the bill. It extends a pandemic program to keep 13 million people insured under the ACA for another three years, a $2,000 annual out-of-pocket price cap on prescription drugs for seniors under Medicare Part D. You'll notice a trend here, is that I'm saying a good thing, and then it's like, for this group and this thing. Right, exactly. 15% minimum tax on corporations,

with a bunch of butts added to that. $80 billion in new funding for the IRS, i.e. Dark Brandon's army or whatever. Yeah, Dark Brandon's army. Yeah, exactly. A lot of good stuff in here with a bunch of butts. I mean, I would like to speak about the medical aspect of this. I mean, obviously, it's not everything that we hoped.

But I have to say, there's some pretty important stuff in here. It's not nothing. I mean, it's not nothing. So you guys know, you probably have heard that medicine is very expensive. And, you know, like a Yale study came out last month and it showed that 14% of people in the United States who use insulin, it's a medication that when you need it, you need it. Your body needs insulin. And if you don't make it, you need the medication. But 14% of those people have experienced catastrophic levels of spending on the treatment. Like after their food and their housing, that's like where all their money goes.

So there is some new stuff to this that's important. So for the first time, I think, I don't think this has ever happened before, the federal health secretary can negotiate the prices of certain expensive medications for those people on Medicare. And 48 million people in this country get their medicine from Medicare. So that you know, 48 million people in this country get their medicine from

Medicare. So that's a pretty important thing. These are medicines that are crazy expensive. Now, of course, then the downside is it's only at first going to be 10 medicines. And that starts in 2026. And then it will build over time to about 20 medicines by 2029. But a big part of this is that you're also going to get capped on how much you can spend so right now it's about seven thousand dollars a year you you can spend on your medication out of pocket and then once you do that you're paying five percent for like every medication afterward which doesn't sound like a lot but it really adds up if you're on these expensive drugs yeah no seven thousand dollars is not something that just everybody has. Yeah.

So dropping that to $2,000 and then having no payment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that really is something. And, you know, a big, I mean, this has to be good, right? Because the farm industry fought so hard against this. You know, they spend millions of billions of dollars lobbying Washington over the years against this. And the fact that they didn't want this to pass is, I think, a good sign that there is

something that can come out of this. I agree. And I mean, all of that, it's all, of course, a benefit. It is just such like, in general, we're going to talk about some of the drawbacks to it. It's just making the case as to why we need universal healthcare. You know why it's just these piecemeal piecemeal stop gaps. It's a bandaid on top of, I used this analogy with my nephew the other day and it worked.

I'm going to do it again. It's like you, you break your foot, but you put a bandaidaid on it and like you know the band-aids they're fine but the foot is gonna heal all fucked up and you're not gonna be able to walk on it properly is what it feels like a lot of the times when when i mean and for this this, for everything, for everything, it's politics feels like that, I guess. But it's also really important and good to see these things happen. And it's going to be life saving and life changing for many, many people. I just want more.

Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, the thing about insulin really bothered me. I agree. I mean, the thing about insulin really bothered me. So in case you guys didn't know, they were trying to get a cap at the price of insulin to $35 per month for all patients, basically, which would be huge because insulin can be so expensive. And it's so expensive in America specifically. Like it's so expensive here. Right, right.

So, I mean, the bill wasn't able to do it for everyone. For Medicare patients, it will be capped, but for everyone else, it's not. So that's a big issue. I mean, the one thing I will say is this. So, you know, a big reason that the big argument that the pharmaceutical companies will make is they'll say, well, this will hamper us finding new drugs, development of new drugs. I mean, so they looked at it, the Congressional Budgetary Office, whatever, the CBO or something, they looked at it and they said that, OK, maybe this will lead to like 15 fewer drugs in the next 30 years. So it's pretty small, right? So if this goes OK, which I assume it will, I mean, if anything, it'll show very little

change, really. Then it could be used as an argument to be like, look, you guys complained that us putting a cap or negotiating prices on these medications would limit the amount of money and medication you make. And you guys in the pharmaceutical industry are doing fine. That's a good point. Exactly. It's a good point in terms of illustrating it yeah we filmed an episode about this yesterday uh of the youtube show uh about these sort of like profit incentives in uh the medical uh industry and specifically that of like well we we won't be able to research stuff billions and billions and billions of

dollars of profit um it's not going to research and development largely. So that is a good point. Like, this can demonstrate that they are not telling the truth about that. I hope that it demonstrates to lawmakers as well something. It won't. Well, I know it won't. I know it won't. But let me share this. I was at I live in a new area now and I was having a great conversation with like this old dude who is conservative and we talked about medicine and we he was like saying yes yes agreeing with me just the idea that like they're there to make a profit they aren't there to treat people you know and people do not receive the treatment that they deserve or need and um and and that felt really good to have that common ground of like absolutely

and i said you know what man you should check out our youtube channel he's like i'm gonna he wrote it down some more news i was like now i should be careful sharing this because i don't think that everybody needs to know up here. Radicalize the mountains. But it's just that this is. Radicalize, not even radicalize. It is like boiling water across the country. I feel that you cannot ignore this. Everybody is feeling this and experiencing this dissatisfaction.

So when I say maybe they'll start to see i'm like maybe because people are seeing people are talking about it anecdotally yeah um how about uh some of the minuses jonathan we haven't even gotten to that oh yeah sure uh so the bill bars the interior department from issuing new what they're called right of way, wind and solar energy developments for a decade unless they also give up 20 million acres of land and 600 million acres of ocean area for oil and gas leasing. Is that a lot? It seems like a lot.

It seems like a lot. This is a high number for an area. It sounds like a lot. In terms of acres, acres seem big and then 20 million acres seems like really big i mean an acre i've lived in this country a long time an acre could be the size of my room or 300 square miles i really don't know i do know that a lot of people need places to live yes i do know that 43 560 square feet i mean you lost that still doesn't help me that's those numbers are 44 000 square feet the size argument that i've been seeing from the bill is good side is that like what this is going

to do is it's going to dissuade new drilling enough and it's going to help doing a lot of clean energy projects enough so that yeah we're going to open up all this area for leasing but they're not going to take it is what i'm seeing i don't know if that's i love like these like it'll do this enough like just like we'll do it enough and it'll yeah it'll hopefully hopefully like it'll deter i don't know um there's also the cinema thing it doesn't close the carried interest loophole she fought for that so it's going to allow private equity hedge fund and investment managers uh to keep paying lower tax rates it's just so gruesome it's like why well cinema why not you gotta protect the hedge funds it's just like a quirky little thing to add in there um and then all the like cool stuff that uh bernie tried to add in there got like

shot down by all the democrats as well well he tried to ruin the bill he tried to ruin it because he didn't want it to happen right yeah he tried to ruin it with the expanded child tax credit and expanding medicare to include dental and vision like real commie stuff yeah yeah the universal universally beloved call me go sit in your lawn chair with your credit that helped people feed their children yeah for a brief period it's just yeah you would expect some more people to vote yes than just him especially since they know all the republicans are gonna vote no right right so it's like just do it good just do it say like yeah we support it but look at the republicans who won't let us it's always we don't need to turn this to a bernie section

but i just always love it whenever he does anything like this and like tries to like do something that helps and then there's always this like contingency online it's like this is why nobody likes bernie this is why everybody hates this guy and it's and like i if you don't like him that's fine you got your like 2016 spite reasons or whatever it is whatever it is you don't like him uh he only named a post office it's always so funny when people frame it like this is why nobody likes him. Actually, everybody loves him. He didn't win. I want it.

We know he lost. If you look up the most popular politicians in the country, it's people who aren't in office like Jimmy Carter and Obama. Yeah. And then Bernie. He's the most popular sitting like government official currently. Also, so it's like 50 of americans love him 51 of women yeah i recently found out that so again uh mountain community here uh liberal pocket bernie won the democratic primary for the county yeah and people hear what i have when people do

talk about it they're like yeah i like what this guy has to say or i like what aoc has to say that's right yeah no shit yeah no shit damn right yeah but uh obviously biden's the only one who could have defeated trump right just like we don't need to do a proof of that logic no you need yeah clearly dark brandon was the the only the only solution come on guys he's working real hard i just want to be that guy on the podcast give him a break he's doing his best all right we should be happy um to cody's point yeah it is frustrating and i understand people being like, I understand that there is a political choice that has to be made, which he made by the way,

which he made, he voted yes for this, despite it, not including the stuff that, you know, but, but what's the problem with continuing to talk about the things that are necessary,

which objectively speaking is true. You know, again, I, I get hung up on that. Just, yeah. I mean, the thing that's funny about it is how hard it is to convince some of the people on the left of the Democrats to sign up for some of these things. I mean, no matter what they do, no matter how mild this bill is, I do think there's some good stuff in it. Like, particularly, I think there's some good stuff with the moving us forward on the medicine but no matter what they do or how mild it is it's going to be painted either way as being far left radical i mean that's how they're going to get painted who cares just go for what's right then at that point you know

what are they i don't understand what the the concern is at this point yeah um it's well i mean part of the concern is like they don't want to do it. Right. Not everybody, obviously. But there are like interests that are in opposition to these good things. But yeah, I mean, it's like like they're saying that the FBI is full of communists trying to like take down Donald Trump. Right. What do you like?

It's no matter what, this is going to happen and they're going to say whatever they want. I may be oversimplifying things. I'm sure I am. But like the same reason there are people who are like, oh, the FBI shouldn't have done this because it's going to enrage the people on the left. I'm sorry, on the right in these MAGA supporters, all that. I mean, they're enraged at the slightest anything. It doesn't matter. Nothing's going to change.

They're going to attack. This might like put a couple of vulnerable groups in a little bit of harm's way i think that is true that does kind of concern me like but they're the kind of people that are gonna do these awful things no matter what like i don't there's nothing we can't let that stop the way of progress at this point i think you know it concerns me but like i don't know what other option there is at this point. Yeah, right. It's just it's just another excuse to not do it. And like, it's gonna why would you let this sort of fear stop you from doing good things that will make things better ultimately and make fewer people be angry about the commies in the FBI going after Trump?

Goddamn commie FBI. The commies and the FBI going after Trump. Goddamn commie FBI. It's just, I mean, I waffle between just, are they just so out of touch? No, they just want the system to keep working the way it's working, I guess. Yeah, for certain people. Anywho, what else we got? We're running out of time here.

Well, I thought we could end by watching a brief bit of this commercial for kaylee mcinerney's sister's dating app for i haven't seen this yet i saw it shared but i didn't watch it yet great before we watch this this is a dating app for trump supporters right right wingers right i was told i was told that it's actually disgusting for people to base their dating habits off of politics or like another word, like shared values. Well, wait till you see this commercial. You'll change your mind. Maybe I'll change my mind. Hey, guys, I'm Ryan. I've got to tell you about something I am so excited to announce.

A dating app for all of us conservatives. It's called The Right Stuff, and it's launching this September. What I love most about it is that it's invite only, so not just anyone can join. First of all, it's free to use. And for my ladies, you'll never have to pay because we all get premium subscriptions for simply inviting a couple friends. Gentlemen, if you want access to premium, that's on you.

And by the way, those are the only two options. Ladies and gentlemen, the right stuff is all about getting into the right thing. Oh, they got it in there. People who share

the same values and beliefs as you. You'll start off by building your perfect profile. No pronouns necessary. We want you to You already did the thing!

forward, which includes your favorite photos of yourself doing what you love well there you go the opportunity to let people know various sides of you so remember be authentic and creative we're sorry that you've had to endure years of bad dates and wasted time with people that don't see the world our way the right way okay Oh, my God. You know what was funny was at the end of that video, the sync between her mouth moving and her words coming out was out of sync, and it made her look like the robot that she is, malfunctioning.

That was awesome. I mean mean it's full of full of gems it's well again for so long i was told that if you're more left-leaning and you don't want to date republicans that means you're like evil or something and that it's you're intolerant of other people's ideas so that's funny obviously they are the real snowflakes i mean you it's the same thing when you when we're talking about their reaction to this bill now they're going to be enraged no matter what they're just fucking angry all the time and i i think liberals are pretty resilient but they do seem to shatter at nothing yeah it's well also it's just like there's so much about that video that's incredible and obviously just saying the exact opposite of what they said you know three months ago is not a surprise i can't believe they did the pronoun

thing twice they got their little yeah they really ladies and gentlemen only and then later on they did like no pronouns yeah you already said yeah i yeah i'm already on your culture war team you don't need to do this again and obviously the picture of trump is amazing but oh there was just this one moment that i forget now while you're looking for that i want to the thing that really stands out to me is they're doing it like a selling point like it's always free for ladies you all get premium okay do you want you go i think that maybe if this was a different app if it was literally any other app for literally any other people and it was presented as premium is free for women and premium is pay for men they would call that disgusting unfair identity politics they'd call it like toxic feminism or whatever it is they want to call it it's wokeness she's being woke right now this right stuff app

is woke for allowing women to not have to pay for premium but the reason they're doing it is because it's gonna be all men all dudes it's gonna be actually madison too there's gonna be like three women on this site and ryan it's not appealing oh it's not gonna be good yeah i love also i forget exactly how she phrased it but i'm gonna i'm gonna misrepresent what she said at the very beginning and it's very funny to start a video with like i can't wait to tell you about something i'm excited to announce. That I'm doing right now. So good.

Who is she, by the way? I don't know who that is. She's Ryan McEnany, former press secretary for Donald Trump, Kayleigh McEnany's sister. Okay, so nobody. Yeah, nobody. Has anyone made a just swipe Reich reference yet? Has that joke been done? Can I get the Twitter and do that before that's done that's good oh my god before ron philip kowski does someone's already got i'm sure

the one woman's like oh premium free for me i like a deal. Yeah. Okay. I think we did it, guys. I think we did it. I hope so. We talked. We laughed. We joked. We got mad.

We didn't get that mad. I feigned anger for the transition, for the segue. That's right. You sure did. And you did such a good job. Thank you so much. Kaveh, thank you for joining us again. Please tell our listeners where they can find you.

Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I love it. Okay, so I can be found on Twitter at The House of Pod. You can listen to my sort of humor-adjacent medical podcast, The House of Pod. You can find it pretty much everywhere. I have a new limited run podcast I'm doing with Rebecca Watson of Skepchik. It's about the show The Boys. It's called Girls on Boys.

It's about the Amazon show The Boys, which I think is a really great satire. Cody loves that show. It's good. Yeah, it's fun. Great. Although we can talk about that finale. It was not my favorite episode. But anyway, overall, great show.

Yeah, find me there. Do it. Do it. But anyways, overall, great show. So, yeah, find me there. Do it. Do it. Do it. Okay, guys, that is it. You know. How you doing? Stay cool.

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