The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #1896 Twisted
Episode Date: July 25, 2024Whilst still in the concrete jungle, Dr. Drew brings the best of Bette Midler, Adam shares the good, and bad, news in life, and they discuss the truths in media. Then, they attempt to decipher the rec...ent Universal Basic Income study. Leave us a voicemail: SpeakPipe.com/AdamandDrDrew OR Click the microphone at top of the homepage, AdamandDrDrew.com
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Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr.
Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, get it end and it's a pretty well done actually.
I was kind of impressed. So I think Frazier, yeah.
Definitely cultural appropriation, but it was good.
Kelsey Grammer wrote that song.
I don't think it was a song. I think it's an, he wrote it as he told me.
Yeah. Yeah. And he also sung it as he told me, which I didn't know.
But he did think it was a Joni Mitchell song,
but it was not.
And we can find, it's a funny song.
You ever hear that Bette Midler song?
This was the one that's the scrambled egg song
that he's singing.
It inspired him, he said. Inspired, yeah. That song him he said inspired it yeah that song inspired I've not heard it
I've not heard there's a I'll ask Emmy there's a Bette Midler song about her
analyst telling her she's crazy and they used to say analysts, people used to have analysts, not therapists or psychiatrists.
They were psychoanalysts. Psychoanalysis owned American psychiatry. There were no psychologists
that came later. So analysts was what you had. Yeah.
Yeah. And, and the name of the now I, we looked it up and somebody wrote it in 1951, I believe somebody else.
But she covered it and it was a funny song.
Like the, it had funny lines in it.
Like she couldn't ride on the double decker bus
because there was no driver on the second story
You know like stuff like that where you were like, oh, yeah, it's kind of funny
Yeah, like like if you're a little neurotic
You can see that right?
But maybe we'll find this either Bentley you got it. Okay, it's called twisted. It's called twisted
How you doing girls long time no see listen. I've been to the doctor lately, honey
I saw this at $40 to hear that from that guy
My analyst told me that I was right out of my ass the way you described
Oh, yeah, you'd be better off than alive. I didn't listen to his job
I knew all along he was all wrong and I knew that I thought I was crazy
But you know, no
My analyst told me
That I was spread out of my head instead of the treatment
But I'm not that easily led
He said I was the type that was most inclined
And out of his sight to be
I moved to my main to need
So I was nuts
No more restaurants
Oh no Was there a rock person? What's that? I was not no more
What's that
Now I don't think you know what thing you forget
If you're not paying attention how freaking talented that middler is and was yeah, you know, she was super talented
and was. Yeah. You know, she was super talented. And, uh, you know, I think people sort of learned it in Hocus Pocus, but that was not a, that was well downstream for her, you know?
Well, what happened,
I think with Bette Midler and Cher and
Barbara Streisand is they became so weirdly politically extreme
that people sort of,
they'll probably say the same thing about me,
but they became so nuts
that you kind of forgot about the talent.
Whoopi Goldberg, you know what I mean?
Where you kind of just went like,
oh, this person's, whatever.
Now, you know, it's kind of interesting
because somebody tweeted me today
that I just hated the left
because I was greedy, essentially.
Oh, you sit in your mansion and count your money.
I know, I was greedy.
And I, you know, I'll listen to people's criticism
and try to figure it out
But I was like my beefs with the left are just
Horrible policies that don't work. It's that's not really cash-based, you know
Yeah, I mean no you you are as concerned with people that are stressed economically as anyone
You were one of those people that are stressed economically as anyone.
You were one of those people
and you know what gets people out effectively.
And they ignore the pragmatic reality of what works.
Didn't I just see a recent study
where they gave a thousand dollar a month or a week?
Let me jump in so I can get,
I mean, sometimes I'll jump in on stuff
so I can give me a head start looking for something.
A study just came out, I think the first long-term study
of universal income came out.
And I looked at it, I glanced at it,
but I didn't read the whole study,
but universal basic income came out
and they have a long-term study.
By the way, it's always what,
everything is what logic suggests.
It's not gonna work.
Not just logic, the reality of the human condition
and human behavior. Right, right, right.
So for me,
there is an economic side to it in that I would like you to feed
your children breakfast and to make them breakfast and to make them a healthy breakfast and you
be a part of that process with your kids. That's number one, and that's paramount, and
that's 90% of it. And then 10% of it is is I don't want ten billion dollars going to the LA Unified to slot these kids with high caloric fatty saturated soybean oil
Cholesterol ridden carbs for breakfast, you know that they get down to it. It's not greed
It's lack of trust in the government that they fuck everything up
That's really when you've had to point at one thing that Adam Kroll is feeling I would argue that that
would be it. Yes I don't like policy that not only doesn't work makes things worse
and costs more money. Yeah. That's what I don't like. Hurts people. It hurts people.
Yes yes that's what I don't like but yeah, well they look at homelessness man
That's that is a living breathing example of people who are not creating
right, I mean people but the then the thing too is I don't have in
Until they went ape shit crazy. I didn't have a problem with it
They just started going so hard and so
nutty that it became untenable you know I don't you know if if some progressive
politician from LA started talking in sort of ways that made sense then I
would support those people.
And it happens on occasion.
And by the way, it's a rare occasion,
but when it does happen, you're always taken by surprise.
You know what I mean?
That's how rare it is.
Like this person's actually making sense, you know?
But yes, universal basic income disaster,
as of course it was it was going to be but I
Don't know if we have a study
now the
Bet Midler song was called twisted recorded
1949
Really? Well
Okay, here's the interesting part. My screen says Twisted is a 1952 song with lyrics by Annie Ross that was recorded in
1949.
So I don't know how it's a 1952 song that was recorded in 49 covered by Bette Midler
and Joni Mitchell.
So Kelsey Grammer was right. But anyway, Wikipedia.
So we can look into universal basic income. Listen, none of the things that would not
work on the bear population will work on the human population.
Exactly what I was thinking. on the bear population will work on the human population.
Exactly what I was thinking.
That's all you have to apply.
Whatever that thing is, whatever the rules are,
whatever it is, that's how life works.
Now, you know, there's kind of good news and bad news.
It's like, good news and bad news with life.
Good news and bad news with life. Every person is a
diet, nutrition, and personal trainer
and an expert in all of it. Every single person you know.
So that's the good news. Every single nine-year-old on the planet
knows the difference between candy corn and a hard-boiled egg.
Every single one of them. Everyone's an expert.
Everyone's an expert.
We're all experts.
Everybody knows exactly how to lose weight and get fit.
That's exactly what every human being knows.
I don't know one of them.
Do you know a person that doesn't know what to do
in terms of weight loss and management and health
and that kind of stuff?
Every person. Now, that's the good news. The bad news is nobody wants to do it.
Right.
And that's where the government comes in.
Right.
Because there's way more people voting who don't want to do it than people voting who do want to
get up at 6 a.m. and go to the park and do chin-ups.
Right.
You know? So that's where the government comes in and that's where we get fucked.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in a weird way, it's like, you know, look at those lions out there.
They're there to pick any animal in the wild. They're they're dying. They get disease.
They get injured. They die. Let's put them in a cage.
Let's put them in a contained environment
where they can thrive, we'll feed them
and they'll be with their family, be happy.
No, no.
Doesn't work, never works.
I don't know, like I'm trying to think,
you know, what is kind of a bigger government program,
non-infrastructure, that has...
It works?
Yeah, it's been successful.
You know, money...
It's military, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, military to the extent that we have it and we're able to win wars. But.
Not efficient.
Well, yeah, I mean, what I'm saying is,
well, Dr. Drew's had a very successful restaurant
in Pasadena for 50 years.
It's like, yeah, but there are no other restaurants
in Pasadena.
And he has unlimited money to run that place.
Well, the lights are always on.
It's like yeah
he doesn't shut them off during the day either you know what I mean? Well he
doesn't have to because he has unlimited resources and it's like well but the
pasta primavera was $271 you know and you're like yeah well that's what he can
charge because there isn't any other restaurants. Like, yeah, they're a success,
but they're wildly inefficient.
Yeah, yeah, it's true.
And a sort of success by our yardstick, you know,
I don't know going to foreign lands,
hanging out for 30 years, getting not much done
and then leaving and having the Taliban just take over.
I don't know what we're calling that,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, but a success, and that we statistically kill
more of our own with friendly fire than the enemy kills.
Yeesh.
In many of these skirmishes.
Wow, I didn't know that. Well think about it, you know, I mean,
who's the most famous soldier of the last 20 years is who? Tillett, the guy from Texas.
I can't remember his last name. Pat Tillman, honor his name.illman, yeah. Right.
Friendly fire.
You know, well the enemy doesn't kill that many of us. Think about it.
You know, you really think about it.
There's just not that many incidents.
They're not equipped.
I mean, they're making explosive devices
out of like socks and fertilizer,
and you know, setting it off with a doorbell and shit.
You know what I mean?
No, I mean it, like real primitive shit.
Yeah.
Like, they're not what we are.
But anyway, we die first.
So Biden now is no longer the candidate.
I'm sure you have thought about that.
I worry that he's really going down medically.
I don't know what's going on there.
I think he's going down.
Well, you know, the beauty of Biden
and like the most transparent administration ever,
we're gonna bring the adults.
Remember the adults were coming back with transparency?
Well, and now it's like,
oh, Biden got COVID four days ago, did he?
I have no fucking idea.
Well, you think Biden's lying about COVID?
I would have no idea.
They doesn't have any issues lying about anything.
I, so I would have,
you think Fauci was lying about,
do you think Rochelle Walensky was lying
when she said her son couldn't go to
sleep away camp? I'm like, I have no fucking idea what these people are lying about. That's all
they've done. Yeah. Doesn't mean that's the whole thing. It doesn't mean he doesn't have COVID.
It just means I have no idea whether he has COVID, but he said he had COVID. Right. That doesn't mean
anything. Does it?
Does that mean anything to you?
Nothing means anything.
He stood up on stage and talked about the 51 Intel experts
and all signed the document that he was aware of
and he crafted.
So why should, would you believe anything
Rochelle Walensky or Fauci said moving forward?
No.
No.
Afraid not.
All right, and sorry Sanjay Gupta I don't
believe anything you say. I don't believe anything the liars say but it
doesn't mean it didn't happen it just means you've lied enough to make me
think there's a possibility it didn't happen. Right. Which is horrible for
you and your reputation. Well not just just for the government, but how about for the press, right?
I don't believe anything.
Yeah, so maybe-
Isn't it their job to reliably relay information?
I don't know what they're doing.
Maybe Biden had COVID, maybe he didn't have COVID.
Right.
Also, there is a thing,
you tell me, Drew. All thing, you tell me Drew.
All right, I'm ready.
There's a thing where fighters,
they train and they train and they do without alcohol
and sex, they abstain and they go to a camp
and they live in a cabin and they get up at 5.30 in the morning,
they do road work and then the fight ends.
And they're like, I'm getting a fucking drink
and some whores and I'm eating tonight.
You know what I mean?
And you'd see them two months later,
they put on 30 pounds, you know what I mean?
Cause they're like, fuck it, I'm done with this.
There's an element to that where Biden is just gonna go,
oh, fuck it.
I don't have to go sit down with Lester Holt and pretend to be coherent anymore.
You know what I mean?
I don't have to go do a campaign stop in Pennsylvania and read a prompt there.
And like, I don't, you know what?
I don't have to put on the orange makeup and look tanned and rested and get out.
You know what?
Fuck it.
And when somebody goes, fuck it, they can go fast.
Yeah, it's true.
I mean, that will to live thing in elderly people
can be quite a phenomenal thing.
But the reality is with the neurodegenerative stuff
we know he has, we can observe that he has,
something like even just a viral illness
or a urine infection or pneumonia they dump
they go they step down and sometime that step down is a progressive step down
yeah so I am saying a possible not a possible a physiological event mixed
with oh fuck it yeah like you know I'm fucking. It certainly keeps him at home in bed doing whatever.
I'm gonna spend the day in my sweatpants.
I'm not putting a fucking suit on
and reading a teleprompter today.
Fuck this, I'm tired.
Right.
Those two combined, yeah.
We could see a market decline
in this next several months, right?
Oh, weeks.
Weeks, right, right.
If not, and then there's this rumor that he had a transient ischemic event, which is a
TIA, which is essentially a mini reversible stroke, but it leaves people, again, with
neurodegenerative disease, it's another thing that'll knock them down a big notch.
And why is he having strokes?
What's causing that and what's going on and why is that happening?
And what was the emergency all about in Las Vegas that allegedly happened?
But again because they're giving us no information all kinds of conspiracy theory flourish, but it is I
I'm still totally enamored with the most transparent and the adults have entered the room. I know isn't that nuts
It is It is.
It is crazy.
It's also crazy, and I'll get to this universal
basic income story in one second.
It's always so funny to me that when people get into Biden,
you know, and they're like, whoa, he's not,
you know, they sort of fire back with,
you go, hey, Biden and his brother and his son
and his grandkids and shell accounts and offshore accounts
and so on and so forth, you go, what's up?
And then they come back with,
what's up with Ivanka Trump?
It's like, well, she's a business person
who was a business person, who is a business person,
who has fashion lines and apparel and things of that nature.
Do a business with China?
Yeah, everyone who makes apparel does business with China.
Nike does business with China.
That's where the manufacturing is. It's China.
Anyone who does any kind of business on any level, I can tell you from personal experience,
you deal with China.
They make whatever it is that you're looking for, and then you do business.
But she's a business person who does things, who makes products.
And I'm not saying, I'm not defending her, I'm giving it context.
Do you know what I'm saying? He has products too, Adam. Biden has influence.
Biden doesn't have a business. He doesn't manufacture anything. His brother, they don't
offer anything. That's what I'm saying. Well, Trump's been to Russia. Yeah, Trump's trying to
open a hotel in Russia. You don't think he's dealing with these people
Yes, he is dealing with these people
Because that's what you have to do when you want to open a hotel in Russia
But it's all within the context of trying to open it
That's not sending Joe's brother-law to Russia to get paid to come home. Yeah, right. It's so fucking brief. That's your point
People who were business people are still business people
All right. We'll take the latest hold on go ahead take quick break then we come back
We'll get in this universal basic income right after this
All right, so Amy's laid it out on my screen the study
About Trump and Ivanka and money I hear this Trump has no money
He's bankrupt. I go I go really
How does he maintain the 300 million dollar property and the gardening and the water and the employees that he has there and that plane?
He flies all over the place. How does he maintain that and the staff the pilots and they and the
Hundreds of millions of dollars of fuel that cost How's that happen? There's no money.
Well, you say 300 million, I say 18 million.
Right, exactly.
You know what, here's why the media is corrupt.
Every single human being on CNN,
when they heard that the judge assessed Merlago's
worth 18 million, should have just went,
look, I don't like Trump and I hope he's guilty and I hope they throw the book at him, but
18 million dollars gets you a medium-sized house in Bel Air
Yeah, this has waterfront on all sides. It's acreage
It's it's it's 300 million if it's a penny. It's 300
They're vacant lots up the street that are hundred million bucks. This is nuts now if they had any fucking dignity
That's what they would say. Mm-hmm, but they never do. Well, that's what he said 18 million
I mean, it's literally
It is no different than me
assessing your
4.2 million dollar house at $86,000.
Like, that's really what it is.
And everyone standing around going, yeah, okay.
Yeah, good, because we don't like Drew.
18 million dollars is faking lots up the street
for 100 million that are half the size.
Put nothing on it.
It's crazed, right?
But that's what I'm saying. This is what happened right? But that's what I'm saying.
This is what happened to dignity.
That's what I'm saying.
The ladies of the view, the press, whatever,
CNN need to just go, look, I don't like the guy,
and I think he's a criminal,
but that assessment is insane.
All right.
Universal Basic Income study measured
the spending habits of 1,000 participants against a control group of 2,000
that were giving $50 each month.
Recipients of the $1,000 cash payments,
so I guess 1,000 got the thousand, if that means, right?
Payments reported a modest decrease in employment,
an increase in setting and achieving goals,
and an emphasis on spending that benefited basic needs
and supported others.
They were also 10% more likely to be actively
searching for a job. So the recipients of the thousand dollar cash payments
reported that. You sure that's the recent study? This feels...
This sounds like the old studies. This feels strange to me. So what are you
saying? You're saying the ones... Okay let me see if I can... This article is to me. So, what are you saying? You're saying the ones, okay, let me see if I can.
This article's from yesterday.
From yesterday.
All right, so the study measured the spending habits
of 1,000 participants against a control group of 2,000
that was given 50 each month.
All right, but who got the 1,000 buck payments then?
I believe it's the initial one thousand that went up against the two thousand that received the 50. All right, so the one thousand got
1000 cash payments each month and
There was a decrease in employment
that makes sense an
Increase in setting and achieving goals and an emphasis on spending
that benefit basic needs.
This sounds like it's flying in the face
of what you were talking about, Drew, and what I saw.
So there are also 10% more likely
to actively search for a job.
All right, I'm gonna go out and say
that the
Thousand-dollar group is not this group. That's the fifty dollar group. We're talking about the thousand dollar group did less
That's what I had heard the results show. What is the title of the article?
Ami
This article is a set Sam Altman backed group studied universal basic income for three years. Here's what they found
Alright, and that came out yesterday. Well, why don't you just read it then and or drew?
Why don't you fucking find it on your stupid phone there? All right, we can send it over
Drew find it over. It's right there and somebody tweeted to me yesterday. So it's got to be sitting there somewhere. I
Think it's gotta be sitting there somewhere.
I think it's the wording. So Drew, according to Emmy's version of this at least,
the $1,000 cash payment people
did what they should be doing.
Recipients were more likely to select
interesting and meaningful work
as essential condition for any job.
Now, that doesn't sound like it backfired. select interesting and meaningful work as essential condition for any job. Now
that doesn't sound like it backfired to me but also what's on my screen is a
little bit confusing. So you're gonna have to make some heads or tails of that
and I don't know how long it is. Do you have it? I'm looking at it, but it's not easy to get the results, interestingly.
I don't know why people do three-year studies and then don't make it basic to sort of, you know, Cliff Notes version of what's happening.
Right away, the data clearly showed that cash helped people spend more on their basic needs,
no kidding.
Those who received $1,000 monthly spent $67 a month per month than the lower paid group.
Oh, so the people who got $1,000 paid more than the lower.
Spent more than the lower.
All right, that makes sense.
They also spent about $26 more financially supporting others. Okay.
The money allowed them to stop living paycheck to paycheck and imagining what they could do if they had more financial breathing room,
doesn't really give you the results.
We're learning the cash is an imprecise instrument.
If you want to move towards the same outcome for everyone.
Okay.
towards the same outcome for everyone, okay.
High income payments worked 1.3 fewer hours a week than those who got $5.50, so they worked less.
Okay, there you go.
Well, so it demotivates.
Yes, it demotivates.
Right, okay, but it's not significant amounts of time.
No, no.
We can rule out the idea that if you give people money,
they're just going to quit work altogether.
Okay, fair enough.
Well, hold on a second.
Depends how much money.
Yeah, you give me a thousand bucks a month, I don't quit.
You give me a million bucks a month, I might quit.
Yeah.
That's a false statement, like we can rule this out.
Like yeah, you give someone 50 bucks a month.
No, they're not quitting their job.
It's hard to get it out of this.
It's a lot of conflicting data,
but it's sort of, it's not as though giving people
universal basic income freed them
and made them feel
wonderful and did everything.
They just worked a little less.
They had a little more freedom.
They felt a little less stressed.
About what you'd expect, right?
I am a big fan of homeostasis.
Put the clock back on the screen, please.
I'm a big fan of homeostasis. I believe that people
try to normalize almost everything almost immediately and the body's never-ending search
for that. You know what I mean? You you mean that how we get used to everything
we get used to everything immediately you know I mean or as fast as we can you
know whatever the life you know you have to live with a bunch of people who don't
appreciate what you do for them like I do to have them like realize just how shitty their attitude is and how weirdly
you know insane they are with with stuff you know that's like the proclamations
are insane you have to live as I've done for many years with people who just
basically do nothing you've done everything for them and they're still
super shitty and entitled about it and they get that way fast.
And it's not even, I mean there's anything wrong with them, that's just how people are,
they immediately go there.
You know what I mean?
So that's what we're all struggling for.
So you give someone a thousand bucks a month and then after three months that's just a thousand bucks. That's just what they got. You know what I mean? Now, they'll get pissed if you cut them off
Yeah, but they do not they're not appreciative if you comes on the fourth fourth month
So here's another version study thousand dollar payments increased overall spending by an average of three hundred ten dollars a month
Most of that went towards food, rent and transportation.
I don't know what that means.
Then also offered more financial support to others in need
compared with the control group.
Is that, I understand that either.
Hmm, why?
I thought this group was indeed.
And so are they contributing to a charity
or does that mean they're supporting dependent children
or what does that mean?
No, they're saying you get a thousand bucks a month,
you spend it on food, transportation and rent more so.
Yeah.
Which you didn't understand,
but I don't know why you understand that.
No, I understand that.
Well, you said I don't understand it.
No, here's what I don't understand.
Does that mean they went out to restaurants all the time?
Yeah, no, it just means they may have gone out
to eat more often and they may have bought
steak instead of chicken.
Okay, all right.
Like I said, it would be interesting to know what's in there, but okay.
All right, you don't need this explained.
All right, but, and it means they helped out somebody in their family or something because
they had more money to help them out with.
Right, that's what I'm asking. Is it you hand somebody money on the street? No, are you? No, you don't drew. Okay
you have
Kids and they need some help in their rent, right? That's what I would hope that would be good. Yeah
I don't listen. I I think it's so overall. It's pretty good. I don't know why I thought that it was bad
But I still don't like it
Because it
Because it can never work
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And then, where is that?
Torrance?
Torrance, California, the end.
Doing stand up there a couple of shows.
Six o'clock, eight o'clock.
Why shouldn't I work all weekend, Drew?
All right.
Why not?
Well, it's just the way you are, man.
You just do that.
Yeah.
It's what he's into, man.
I just do that.
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