The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - How to Fight The Man When The Man Isn't A Man (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: June 3, 2023

Adam kicks thins off with a riff of cliches from old school presenters leading Dr. Drew to compare it to motivational speakers. Dr. Drew explains to Adam his bewilderment surrounding people who are co...ncerned for him after a twitter controversy he was involved in and what those reactions say about our society as a whole. They also examine how and why the world has changed in such a way as to stop comedians from pushing back against 'the man'. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller with a theory on Tiger Woods' crash and a follow up call from a listener who is displeased with the 'Hi Guy' greeting that Adam uses for callers. Sticking with the phones they speak to a caller whose best friend is having a hard time with alcohol and has recently threatened suicide and another caller who is considering moving back home to help his drug addicted and disabled mother.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. First up for today, episode 1148, released September 10th, 2019, titled, Why Does Everything Have to Be Bad? Adam kicks things off with a riff of cliches from old school presenters and show hosts, before Drew compares it to motivational speakers and launches Adam into another bit. Hey, welcome to one of the hottest shows really on the, currently on the internet scene. What's going on right now? A lot of, a lot of kids up on the internet, you know, hot scene happening out there.
Starting point is 00:00:41 This is definitely one of the hottest programs on the scene today. Let's really take a look at what's going on on the internet there. And all the kids are pretty much buzzing about the scene on the internet. When you say the internet, you mean the World Wide Web?
Starting point is 00:00:59 The Web. They're all dialing it, show up, and they're checking on their smartphones and flip phones out. And it's all cause it's about what's happening today. You know, it's about what's going on in, in,
Starting point is 00:01:13 in, in this show is, uh, you know, we're not, we're not scared to mix it up, you know, and we're talking about what,
Starting point is 00:01:20 what, you know, what we're talking about. We're talking about what you're talking about. Okay. Cause that's, that's what's going on in this show. Cause it's a hot scene. And you know what we're talking about? We're talking about what you're talking about, okay? Because that's what's going on in this show, because it's a hot scene. And, you know, there's never been a more important time to talk, you know? And, you know, a lot of what's going on out there, people aren't talking, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:37 And when this show that, you know, is a hot show on the scene. Take, hey, man, some hot takes. Hey, can I tell you this, Drew? I'm not trying to win a popularity contest, you know. If you listen to this show because you want me, Adam Crowell, the host, to win a popularity contest, then you're just – You came to the wrong place. Well, you've come to the wrong internet station or whatever this is.
Starting point is 00:02:07 This is a hot... There's a lot of choices out there. I mean, you can listen to many different podcarts. This podcart... And look, I'm not going to make any friends because
Starting point is 00:02:23 I'm going to tell you what's going on. I'm not going to make any friends, you know, because I'm going to tell you what's going on, you know. I'm not the kind of guy just, you know, I don't just dance around the truth, you know. I'm coming at you like a laser beam and a big laser beam, not one of those handheld pen-sized ones. A big fat one. Yeah, a big one like NASA would use to blow up an asteroid. Not one that a guy would do like a presentation on timeshare. Not one of those kind of lasers. Not a handheld.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Not a pointer. Not a pointer. No, but here's what I'm saying about what's going on right now in this show. Okay, I'm going to tell you what's going down. Okay? And a lot of you, okay, a lot of you aren't going to want to hear what I have to say. Okay? Then you came to the wrong place. But I'm going to say it anyway because I'm not running a popularity contest. Okay?
Starting point is 00:03:20 And that's what you're going to get on this pod show. Okay? You can go on the alternate and look for other shows and maybe you find one that just agrees with every thought you've ever had but i you know what biggest picture i don't think that's going to help you i think biggest picture i think i think in the large run i think you got it it. I'm talking biggest picture, large run. You got to hear the truth. And somebody's going to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And you know who's not going to tell you the truth, Drew? Everybody but you. Your best girl? She's not going to tell you the truth? Your mama's not going to tell you the truth? No. Grandpappy? Nana? They're not going to tell you? Your neighbor's not going to tell you the truth. Your mama's not going to tell you the truth. Grandpappy, Nana, they're not going to tell you. Your neighbor's not going to tell you. But you know who's going to else tell you the truth?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Who? Me and Dr. Drew. That's what I'm talking about. That's why you got to get it on. Because it's not a popularity con show we're running here. Okay? Pod show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 What'd I say? Pod show? Con show? Contest? Hot talk. So what we do in this pod show, so we take hot issues, hot talk, hot button, button-sized hot topic issues.
Starting point is 00:04:54 We'll take hot pocket issues and just get into them. And you know what? Blow them up. We don't blink. You know what I mean? Yeah. And a lot of people, hey, a lot of people aren't going to like that. You're not going to win a popularity contest. No, you're not going to run a popularity podcast doing hot pocket issues.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That's the way you do it. But we do it. When we do it straight on. Hey, you know the fastest direction, point A, point B? Straight line. Go ahead. That's what I'm saying. We're serving up those hot pocket issues, man.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And I go straight. And again, look, it may cost me my marriage. It may cost me my relationship with my children. I may be confined to prison. But I'm still telling you the truth
Starting point is 00:05:46 because I don't care whatever it takes man whatever it takes you know if you don't prepare to succeed then you're just preparing to ill conceit you're just preparing
Starting point is 00:06:03 you're just plain old preparing. Hey, can I tell you something? Can I be honest with you? Tell me. What's that? Well, that's all you know how to be. You're either moving forward or you're moving backwards or you're just in one place. One or the other.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's good. That's it. That's it, man. I could tell you something different, but I can't. You know what I mean? You're going forward or you're going backwards or you're just where you are. Now, what I'm here to say is the status quo is not the quo status anymore. Not anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Not anymore. And what was good enough is not enough good anymore. Okay? That ain't enough good. There's that World Wide Web. You got all, you got, you got, you got, you got alternate pod shows? Yeah. And you better believe, you could, you could hop on that flip phone of yours, scan the dial, and come up with a dozen other pod shows.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And so if we want to succeed, we got to be better than all the other pod shows out there. Okay? But again, we're not running a popularity contest. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay. But again, we're not running a popularity contest. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay. I think it used to be called a webularity, but now it's a podularity. It's what the kids all say.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I could sit here and just blow sunshine at you, man. I tell you, everything's all rainbows and daffodils, but I wouldn't be doing my job. Okay. And you know what? Okay. You know what? What? you know what okay you know what what you know what what i'll tell you who'd be the most disappointed in me if i did do that me okay oh because i'm not me well you too but i'm not here i'm not here to lie to you but i'm not here to lie to you, but I'm not here to lie to me neither. Okay?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Right. Yeah. Okay. Right. And I would be just as bad as you if I was lying to me. Okay? Now. I think.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. Now. Now. There's nobody else in this studio that believes in this podcast like I do, but I don't care. Sometimes I like to just stop every once in a while and see what would happen if I stopped talking and I realized, oh, there's no show. How dare you? Well, I wouldn't be able to. I go, I'm going to take a hit off this the sankha and
Starting point is 00:08:45 see what happens it's always the same dead air well i'm waiting for you go ahead drew what do you got now so um well i want to actually while you were doing that bit i was thinking to myself how how close that actually is to the BS that motivational speakers spew out. And yet people spend days and thousands of dollars to go here just blowing hard. It's really kind of astonishing to me. And it's not the way our brains work, even, you know, to be given a list of things to do to, you know, like you were making fun of, you know, you're moving forward, you're moving backwards, you're standing still. You have to memorize things like that for it to be meaningful to you. People don't memorize things. And even then, what does that do? What does that do for anybody?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Nothing. Can I tell you this? No, here we go. Here we go. My mother died December 17th, 2002. Okay? I buried that woman on that day. No son should ever have to bury a parent.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You get that? I get it. I get it. Drew, your parents are still alive, right? No, afraid not. No son. Do you have a sister? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:21 No son and daughter should ever. It's never OK. You understand? It is never. I have zero tolerance for children burying their parents. It is never OK. It's not okay. Not even okay to talk about it. No. That's why we're going to move on. But I'm telling you, December 17, 2003 or 1 or whatever I said, that's when I buried. That's when I buried. And by the way, that's when I took my last sip of whiskey.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Really? Yeah. I never lifted another sip of whiskey. Really? Yeah. I never lifted another glass of whiskey. No, I moved to vodka. Okay. It's a better high. Yeah. And also the cops can't smell any breath.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And up next, we have episode 1409, released April 14th, 2021, titled Poor is a State of Mind. Dr. Drew explains his bewilderment to Adam over reactions to his having been in a Twitter controversy, which leads into an examination of how comedians need to be able to push against status quo to function. I'm just sitting here wondering what's up with people. Someone just sent me a long, long text thread about how worried they are and the Twitter and they hate you. I don't know. If you exist in the world today, you're going to get shit storms.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's just the way it is. There's no alternative. People on Twitter are horrible. They don't actually read what you say. They create fake news by jumping to all sorts of conclusions. And you can either go live in a hole or that's just the way it's going to be from now on. Yeah, it's interesting. I was doing a TV show.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Oh, I don't even know what I do anymore. Is everything some Zoom thing or something? I don't know. Who the fuck knows what's even a TV show anymore. But anyway, I was doing this thing. And they open it up at the end, and they're like, open it up for questions. And then somebody's Twitter questions or something. It's like, oh, Adam Carolla said women weren't funny.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here we go again. And I'm like, wow, fake news. Yeah. You know what I mean? There it is, yeah. Never said that. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And that's what happened in my Twitter system. I asked a question, and it got turned into a statement. Then it got turned into a statement about something I didn't understand or know. None of that was true. None of that was true. Yeah. None of it was true. I just asked a question. How would you feel?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. And that became, you're saying that, nope, nope. I was curious how people felt. Yeah. But even, also, even if it's true, then that's your opinion. You know what I'm saying? Yes. People have opinions.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yes. You're not allowed to have them. Some of them are right. Some of them are right. Some of them are wrong. Some of them are sort of push against the culture and the norms. It's fine. Comedians traditionally do that. They used to.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You know what I mean? Push back against cultural norms. Well, let me tell you something. Comedians were fine when the cultural norm was nixon and vietnam and donald trump right but they're having a real hard time pushing back against the cultural norms of meaning shutdowns lock-ins and you know men are women and women are men they're having a lot of which is now the cultural norm so they're not they're not pushing back against that one, which I find interesting. It is interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And it's also kind of a flip, isn't it, that the comedians were rewarded for taking on the man and now they're crushed for taking on the man. It's a little bit of a flip. The man, so what's essentially happened as we see this, in the days of yore, the man was Richard Nixon. Yeah. He was as much the man as you could get. He looked like he was from Central Casting, you know, or Gerald Ford, you know, the suits they'd wear, their hair, their age, skin color, you know, they were the man.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. Now, who's the man? Well, I'll tell you who the man yeah now who's the man well and but i'll tell you the man is yeah kamala harris yeah or black lives matter or the lgbt community they have now become the man in this society we're living in but they are they are pushing the narrative so now comedians are fucked up because it's easy to go against the man when the man is a man and he's a white man and he's an older guy. You know, Nixon, easy, boom.
Starting point is 00:15:12 200,000 jokes about Richard Nixon. I'm sure rightfully deserved. But now what? Now you're in a weird position. Yeah, there's a couple things because now the comedians are also the man. Right? They used to be pushing against the man. Now what they were pushing against him is in charge.
Starting point is 00:15:28 So they're the man. Right. And back in the day, I'm not aware of the man destroying people's lives or careers because they had an opinion. That never happened. Right. So now that they are the man, they can't go against their crowd because they'll get destroyed. Right. Right. It's a really weird situation.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Isn't it? I mean, it's kind of disturbing. It only exists because we let it happen. Well, it exists. And so who pushes back? Comedians don't push back. I know. Is it just podcasts pushing back?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Is it? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's going to have to be. I mean, it's not comedians pushing back. Is there anybody else we could sort of – Well, here's – okay. Let me clarify that. Do not tweet me the name of a comedian no one's ever heard of and say, this guy pushes back. Yes, there are plenty of comedians who will push back, but not comedians with
Starting point is 00:16:26 stuff to lose. That's what we're talking about. If you think you got a deal going with ABC, there is no pushback. You know what I mean? If you want to be employed on a network level or get your next Netflix special or whatever, no, we do not hear anything from
Starting point is 00:16:42 them. You'll always hear stuff from people who have nothing to lose. That's the way it works. That's not a good test group. I want to know where the voices are coming from where people have something to lose. I'm also curious what they would say if you ask them. That's almost more what I'm interested in than anything else. I get why they don't because they have a lot to lose and they'll get crushed. And by the way, they're happy with the status quo. Why should they take it on? They don't really have
Starting point is 00:17:08 a passionate, you know, sort of axe in the game. What would they say when you asked them? Anthony, I have no idea. Well, by the way, you know what some say. There's nothing wrong. He's perfect. Nothing funny. Oh, with like Biden? Yeah. What's funny about Biden? He's perfect. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Well, that's kind of interesting, isn't it? Right. Anthony, 35, Pasadena. Big Bad Drew and Ace Man, what's going on, guys? Hi, guy. Hey, guy. Hey, guy. I'm going to only spend a few seconds heaping on praise, but Ace Man, you're my spirit animal.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I've been listening to you guys for 26, 27 years. You're my spirit animal. I've been listening to you guys for 26, 27 years. I do the cold plunge, jujitsu, Wemhoff breathing methods, and it's greatly improved my life. So thank you guys for everything that you do. Well, thank you for saying so. Of course. So I've got a theory.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I haven't listened to your episode. I saw you guys were talking about Tiger Woods today on ACS. I haven't listened to all of it. I started and... Oh. What do you think about the possibility of a potential suicide attempt? Because 75 miles an hour, not braking, something's not adding up here. Yeah. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:18:22 something's not adding up here. Yeah. No kidding. And by the latest in that, his foot was still on the accelerator when he left the road and remained on the accelerator. What other possibility? He's a completely competent,
Starting point is 00:18:38 obviously, top-of-the-line athlete. You don't mistake the brake pedal for the gas pedal. I mean, it don't mistake the brake pedal for the gas pedal. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. And that popped in my head the other day after, yeah, the ACS was talking about just the details of the crash. I said, you know, I've never heard of anything like that unless it's a potential suicide attempt. Oh, I've seen it a lot with people that are loaded.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And if you looked at his previous record of driving intoxicated, it's pretty obvious, right? I mean, I can't guarantee that's what happened, but that would be the first, second, and third thoughts. Yeah, the suicide attempt, pardon the pun, sounds like a tough putt. It's possible. It's possible. Anything is possible, but that doesn, sounds like a tough putt. It's possible. It's possible. Anything is possible, but that doesn't feel like what it was, but it does feel like mistaking the gas for the brake.
Starting point is 00:19:35 My patients do that all the time. Oh, really? They do it with neurological conditions. I did it once. I was on a cholesterol-lowering medication that had – oh, no, no. I was on Accutane. And when I did that, I mistook the brake for the accelerator. I called the dermatologist.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I go, you have to take me off this shit. It's something that people do when they're neurologically impaired. It happens a lot for medication. Let's talk to Philip from Costa Mesa. Hi, guy. Yeah, you just did it again. It proves my point. I'm so glad I took the time.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I was painting and I said, you know, I'm going to call him. And Drew, I'm just as mad at you now as I am with Carolla because you're doing the same thing that you do to Ace Man when he talks about black topics. You get quiet. Well, I call in a couple, like a month ago, and now you're quiet. You're not doing anything for us. Yeah, what about the gay community? Well, it's because Adam told me you were a bogus call, so I shut up when it became bogus. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And I've got, here's the thing. I know what bullying is, and I figured, you know, I like you guys. I usually do. But this high guy thing, and you've ramped it way up, Carolla. Oh, you have ramped it up. I said I wouldn't listen, but I've been listening. Good. And you've been doing the high guy thing just to make me, just to get me.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I know it. Oh, boy. I do. I've expanded it throughout the Carolla Podcast universe as well. And in my personal life. With Philip in mind the whole time. It's for him. Yeah. Well, hold on. Let's be fair. I do not do it privately for you, but I do do it for me to stay in shape for when I get on the air, and that is for Philip.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I see. That makes sense now. Practice makes perfect. Yes, yes. What were you painting, Philip? practice makes perfect. Yes, yes. What were you painting, Phillip? Oh, well, here we go. So, Drew, now here's how good I know Adam. He's going to ask what kind of brush I'm using, if it's a Purdy, if it's a cutting brush, what is it? Oh, I thought it was a bowl of fruit, or some of your friends, a bowl of fruits. Are you kidding? Oh, my goodness. I just sprayed texture, and now I'm painting today.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Oh, are you doing knockdown texture? I did an orange peel. Nice. You got a hopper. Yeah, not every gay guy paints with oil paintings on a canvas all day, Carolla. I don't know. I write dirt bikes, too. All right. Speaking of oil, maybe time for some of your subjects to reapply it. See what I did there? That felt funny. All right. Thank you,
Starting point is 00:22:12 Abel. What kind of dirt bike do you have? Well, but my last bike was a KX252 stroke. I went back to the two strokes because the four strokes are old. You know, it's the new thing, but now it's sort of the old thing again. So yeah, I can can do big jumps and all that stuff through the whoop-de-doos. But listen, let's get on the same page and come up with a new greeting. I've got three of them I think are fantastic. All right. I'm all ears. This is crap.
Starting point is 00:22:36 This is good. You like it. Adam likes it when people come prepared. That's right. So here you go. I know I can't come to the table empty-handed with either of you clowns. So here, how about instead of, you know, hi, guy, you know, that stuff, how about what's happening, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Let me see how that works. That's racist. Yeah, it's racist because that was a TV show from the 70s that depicted black people in an unpopular way. Yeah, I hear you. Okay, how about this? You know, hey, gang. popular way. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. Okay. How about this? You know,
Starting point is 00:23:07 Hey gang. Hey gang. Yeah. But if I'm just talking to one person, also, I had a cousin who was shot by someone in a gang. So I'm also very good about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Gang bubbles is no joke. Problematic. Problematic. Yeah. Last one. What about a, what about a Texas kind of thing of thing like hey y'all like you know take take it take another angle well this is see i have the same problem with the pronoun
Starting point is 00:23:31 they it's like if you're talking to one person it's you all hi y'all hi that's a one person hi people have been to texas they do it all the time what are you all up to but then aren't we aren't we uh what are you all regionally the time. What are you all up to? But then aren't we regionally appropriating? Yes. I love the Texas thing. What are you all up to with yourself? People don't do that. Oh, yes, they do.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yes, they do. Hi, y'all. Y'all is weird for one person calling in. That's for a Californian. Maybe if we're at a bar or something. Even that's weird. But I like, Phillip, I like where you're going with that. I'm on your team. I'm on Team Phil.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Is it okay to call you Phil? I am. Or is that offensive? Yeah, you can call me Phil. And you know something else? You guys ought to just move to Texas with the show because, you know, nobody really in California wants you here, and you guys don't like being here, so why don't you just leave?
Starting point is 00:24:24 We're thinking about it seriously. And also on a serious safety note, I know you're rolling on some paint. You probably got a weenie roller in your hand. Do not run with that thing, Phillip. Do not run. With your weenie roller? As a matter of fact, I was using a medium net six-inch weenie roller. What a good guess.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yes. Do not run with that. I'd hate to see where that could get lodged. Thank you, my friend. Thanks, Phil. All right. Woo! I like Philip. I do, too. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show classics. Last up for today, we have episode 727 released december 8th 2017 titled i don't have time the
Starting point is 00:25:11 guys go to the phones and speak to a caller whose best friend is struggling with alcohol and suicidal thoughts and another caller who is contemplating moving home to help his disabled and drug-addicted mother. John, 26, New York. John? Yeah, hey, guys. Hey, man, what's going on? I'd like to take my call. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:36 So, pretty recently, just a few days ago, as I'm calling you, one of my best friends, he's been having some problems drinking, and he's also my age 26 and he got really drunk one night and called a suicide hotline and uh you know cops came and took him they took all his guns he's a former marine so he's a little ptsd from that yeah and uh so he's a little PTSD from that. And so he's inpatient right now. I've been talking to his sibling, and they told me he's not really into taking any visitors and kind of looking on advice for how to just sort of navigate this trauma in his life
Starting point is 00:26:24 and do my duty as his friend to help him through it? I don't really see it as a trauma. I just see it as a progression of his alcoholism, and I see it as an opportunity. So speak freely, speak openly, don't pull any punches, do not walk on eggshells, and make sure he gets the alcoholism thoroughly treated and he keeps going in that treatment.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And he may need some antidepressants for a little while and make sure he follows the team's recommendations. But that really, he began to get really focused on alcoholism treatment. Are the eggs out of the eggshells, Drew, when you walk on them? I always wondered that. It doesn't really matter, I suppose. But I always envisioned them as out of the eggshells. I envisioned them as out as well.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But then what difference does it make if you splats around? One makes a bigger mess. You still break the eggshells either way. Yeah. I think it's because of the way – I'm not saying don't walk on eggs. I'm saying don't walk on eggshells. Yeah. I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:18 That's the saying. It's kind of interesting. Hey, John. Yeah. All right. Well, you sound like a good friend. Yeah, just bring him openly and freely and be supportive. It seems like he's getting the support and the help he needs.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, this is an opportunity. It really is. All right. And so I've actually had this open and honest conversation with him before, and it was about a year and a half ago when I thought, you know, he wasn't acting like the same old buddy that I knew. And I just said, look, man, I'm here as your friend. I think you should talk to somebody about whatever is going on in your head.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And that's when he denied it. Yeah, be a little more direct on that. It's like, okay, clearly, man, you've got a problem with alcohol. Let's go to the program. Let's go. Get a sponsor. Go than that. It's like, okay, clearly, man, you've got a problem with alcohol. Let's go to the program. Let's go. Get a sponsor. Go do it. That's all.
Starting point is 00:28:08 All right. It'd be much more directive. And at some point, you may have to say, hey, man, if you keep drinking, I cannot be around this. Leaving somebody often gets, well, sometimes gets their attention. You've got to do whatever you've got to do to help him get motivated. That's the deal. All right. Here's the deal. All right, here's Ron, 29, from Portland.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Ron? Hey, guys. How you doing? Good. How you doing? I'm doing pretty well. How are you? Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That's all right. So I got kind of a complicated situation here. My stepdad, who has been sort of abusive on and off my life, is finally going to prison for selling heroin. Nice. Yeah. And my mom, who is disabled from her job, is going to have maybe a year of monetary support where she can support herself. What does disabled from her job mean? Yeah, what does that mean? And I don't trust that. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Guys, so she worked with mentally handicapped people, the retards, as you say. Yes. And one of them threw her up against the van, caused a bunch of fractures in her neck and her back. And another one of the disabled guys attacked that guy and got him off of her. And so since then, she's sort of been unable to work and or addicted. Oh, addicted to painkillers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Addicted to painkillers. And addicted to painkillers. All right. So that's... First off, Drew, what a sad state of affairs when 50 years ago, if somebody said, 25 years ago, if somebody said, she was injured, he was injured in the workplace, and now he'd be like, oh, my God, what happened? I'd be in trouble. Somebody says to me, injured on the workplace i start rolling my eyes before they just hear it my yeah before they well no for me it's a two-step yeah yeah it's uh unable to work
Starting point is 00:30:16 injured on the workplace that's me that's when i begin my kabuki no my french farcical type movements where i play to the cheap seats in the background. Like, yeah, okay, please, with the head roll. And then we go into the next part. Her T7 and T9 and her lumbar and her spinal, whatever. Now I go into, okay, dick to the pain pills. Yeah, that's it. Is there nobody who just gets hurt at work legitimately and then goes home anymore?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Like every time I hear a fucking story about somebody's injured at work and then somebody's hurt their back, it's like, oh, yeah. You know what's really interesting? Listen to this. I had a really interesting experience with this one of my patients. She's an addict. She's been in trouble on and off. She works very hard. It's trying to stay sober. Had a really serious injury at work. A car backed into her.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Please. Well, but hold on. Please. So on and off painkillers, in and out of surgeries, and gets involved in a court case. And she's like, I need you. I need a document. I need a document that I can't work in here. I went, finally, I was going down the path with the workers' comp people going, okay, well, I guess we got to – and then I thought, wait a minute. I've seen you the last couple of months. You're getting around fine. What do you mean you can't work? I can't do that job. I go, why don't you love your work? Yeah, I love my work.
Starting point is 00:31:37 They say I can't do it anymore. I go, why the hell not? You go back to work. She was stunned when I said that. They're so used to hearing doctors go, all right, we've got to get this disability going. You need to take those painkillers. And I said, screw that. I can't document that you can't go back to work because if I've got her in the stand, you know what I'd say? She loves to work. She should be back next month. Next month, she's back at work.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Her depression lifted. She's 1,000% better. Thank you. Hero. So it's the system. It's the system that does it too it's not just the system and the all the enablers around everybody that doesn't tell everyone to get the hell to work all right so uh ron yeah so yeah your mama can't work but mama
Starting point is 00:32:18 was with the junkie and mama's got her own issues now she. Her back is hurt because someone pushed her against the fan. Exactly. All right. So I'm wondering, basically, it comes down to she has about a year's worth of money that she can get by on herself, according to the stepdad that caused all these problems, well, caused his own problems. And I don't know if I should move back home to try to support her financially or what I should do from here. There's a crazy number of other circumstances that come into play.
Starting point is 00:32:53 My sister has three kids that my mom has sort of been supporting on and off, and she's been addicted to heroin. The sister. Now my mom has custody of one of those kids. So it's just my mom and one of those kids and my stepdad that's about to go to jail. The other two are... Hold on, Ron, you're white? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's time to play the privilege card. You gotta get the privilege card out. You're not playing your privilege card. Well, at least for the grandkids. You gotta play the white privilege. Well, what are you talking about? What do you mean? There's gotta be a boy in there. It's all around you. It's ubiquitous. There's one, the boy in the mix, by the way, my sister's boy, has autism. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh, my God. Yeah, which I think is sort of caused by her drug addiction, I'm assuming, at this point. Yeah. And that's the middle one. She's not taking care of the one with autism, by the way. That's with one of the three dads. That's with his grandparents. it is a crazy situation yeah of course i know but the reason i'm concerned is that i moved away from it's in tillary i'm sure you guys are aware uh i moved away from tillary
Starting point is 00:34:00 uh because of all of these shithole problems that surround that area, and I want it out of there. And I don't want to move back there to be back in that mess. Every time I go back there, I seep into a depression of having to deal with all of the problems and all the drama they deal with. I just, I move away to get away from that. And I'm concerned about my mom, but i don't want to go back because it's gonna you know personally yeah and ron i i gotta tell you maybe this is part of um me being an
Starting point is 00:34:34 atheist but uh and and there's a provision for the kids because i do feel for the kids but my thing is like you fucking idiots you made your shit bed and now you fucking die in it. I don't give a fuck. That's how I feel. Too bad. You fucked up your fucking lives. You fucked up. Everyone's around you live in a weird way.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You've been the ultimate and selfish. And you're first off, you know, you're 60 years old. Like, when the fuck do you get your shit together? And at a certain point, I'm not going to follow you down the shithole.'ve got your life you don't look i i'm not saying you need to hang
Starting point is 00:35:10 up when they call and i'm not saying you don't need to do what you can do but you don't need to put your life on hold you're 29 you sound like you've extricated yourself from this uh shit twister called your called your family and yeah you know and and shit nato shit nato shit nato it's a new series and uh you know maybe this is a little cathartic for me but i just feel like you fucking idiots i i will i will ask you know i will lend you my advice i might even lend you a few bucks or whatever, but I'm not getting in there and fixing what you're unable to or unwilling to fix. So, Ron, in my book, you're off the hook. pathetic, that maybe get some social worker in there to get your mom into some meetings, maybe get her some vocational rehabilitation and sort of get her out of the shit hole she's in, the shitnado. She's got to get sober.
Starting point is 00:36:13 She's got to get sober. She's got to get in the program. She has to start healing. It's free. 12 Step is free, for God's sake. She can just show up and get support and start to crawl out of this hole, but she has to want to. And that's what Adam is frustrated by.
Starting point is 00:36:24 People, they don't want to make that move. I can't. This people were like people, you know, like when people hit me with, I don't have time to, but that doesn't mean anything to me. It never means anything to me. There is no such thing as you telling me I don't have time to do this on a weekend or take a class or do a thing or go to a meeting or something like that. There's no such thing as you telling me that ever makes me go, oh, my God, I got to reexamine this. I understand there's inertia to it. But once you start, you'll keep going.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, true. When someone tells you, I don't have time for it, you fill in the blank. Do you ever go like, oh, my God, I bet they don't have time? I'm sympathetic to it, but there's certain things you've just got to – too bad. Too bad. But what is it that you need to do or want to do that you don't have time for? I'm not talking about read a good book. I'm talking about like in your life.
Starting point is 00:37:18 What do I not have time for? Yeah. Like I'm saying, historically, what have you not... I have time for everything I want to do. That doesn't mean I get to do it all the time. When it was time to go to therapy, I felt like, oh, am I going to do that? Once I started, I found time. There you go. That's all for this week.
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