The Bechdel Cast - Valentine's Day (2010)

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

We're releasing an episode a day early this week because it's Valentine's Day (the day) and it's Valentine's Day (the movie). Next Bechdel Cast Tour is in the UK in May! Grab tickets at linktr.ee/bechdelcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that?

That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller

from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Curious about queer sexuality,

cruising, and expanding your horizons? Hit play on the sex-positive and deeply entertaining podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. Brrrr. Attention, Bechtelcast listeners. We're going on tour. We really are. And it's not just any tour. It's a tour in the UK. And it's a tour where we are covering Titanic and Shrek. Brilliantly titled the Shrektanic tour. Shrektornic. We're working on it. There's a couple months before the tour. But yes, we are really excited. We're currently doing five shows in the UK with more shows to be added. Stay tuned at the end of May.

Yes, starting with two shows in London on May 22nd. One's at 6.30. That's a Shrek show. One at 9 p.m. That is a Titanic show. Then we are scooting over to Oxford on May 24th. We are covering Titanic. Okay. Then we're scooting up to Edinburgh on May 26th and doing Shrek. If you're a Scottish Titanic fan, you are going to have to commute. And I know that that's not. But listen you live in Edinburgh we're covering Shrek I'm sorry I'm sorry

but also you're welcome and then if you do want to see Titanic somewhere nearby you can head down to Manchester we're doing a show on May 28th and that's a Titanic show so yeah you're just gonna want to come to kind of all of them if you live in the UK if you live kind of anywhere in Europe or sort of just anywhere in the world as your Bechtel cast allies in the US can attest to our live shows are super fun it is like a live episode plus a bunch of fun stuff we dress dress up. We bring audience members on stage. Sometimes we do. It's just it's big and goofy and silly. And we're covering two of our favorite movies that are Bechdel cast canon.

So we want to have a good time. We'll be bringing exclusive merch. And we will be doing meet and greets before and after the show. We want to meet everybody. And we're really, really excited. And tickets are already going fast because we released it to Matrons first. Plugging the Patreon really quick. Little perk for the Matrons.

Yep. So if you live in those areas, get those dang tickets because these shows will sell out. Yes, they will. So head over to our Linktree, Linktree slash Bechtelcast. All the tickets are posted there. And like we said, we're working on at least one more show in a different city. So stay tuned. We're hoping to announce that soon.

And otherwise, grab your tickets for the Shrek-tanic tour. Shrek-tanic. And enjoy the episode. On the Bechdel cast, the questions asked if movies have women in them. Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy's effin' vast. Start changing it with the Bechdel cast. Happy Valentine's, Jamie. No, Caitlin.

I'm having an I hate Valentine's Day party. And guess what? It's at a restaurant where for some reason my party's double booked with a wedding reception. Sorry. Oh, do you think they were going to put up a curtain or a partition between these two parties? No, the parties are facing each other for some reason. Well, sounds like a nice time. Wait, what is the name of that? God, my brain is going to be confetti today.

Romeo Midnight. That's the name of the DJ. Oh, the DJ. Gary Marshall. He was like, hey, all you Los Angeles fuckers. Like, who's ready to fuck? It's Valentine's Day. You're like, blah.

Welcome to the Valentine's Day episode. A day earlier than normal. Normally, we release episodes on Thursdays, but it's a special day. Today's Wednesday, and you're getting a Valentine's Day episode early on the movie Valentine's Day. Good Lord. I feel like this has to be the last contemporary movie like this, right? The last Gary Marshall thinking that he's going to read. I mean, and may he rest in peace. He made some good stuff. Not this, but not in the past. past well he's dead decade and a half well i mean to be fair caitlin he's been dead for eight of those years well he's sure got his ass though no i mean i love gary marshall i mean for crying out loud the man directed the princess diaries

like let's be serious and you can tell he directed the Princess Diaries because there's three Princess Diaries cast members in this movie. Wait, obviously Anne Hathaway, but who? Joe, Hector Elizondo. Oh, yeah. Joe, just Joe. And this one is harder. But Paolo Puttanesca is also in this movie. Oh, he's at the southwest gate at the airport being like this counters for oversized luggage only yeah i mean say what you will about gary marshall including he's a legend and he's dead but and uh-huh he's loyal to his character actors he also made happy days you know it's like late gary marshall for some reason he spent the last years of his career trying to re-alchemize love love actually yes he did and i'm realizing

caitlin unfortunately there is one more that we have it's not with this many cast members but there is a gary marshall movie called mother's day well Well, that was, I believe, his last film credit. Brutal. I guess we've got something we have to cover in May. Anyways. So to be clear, we are fans of these movies because they are some of the most fun episodes because we've already covered New Year's Eve. Yes.

The Gary Marshall ensemble cast movie from 2011 yeah and then we've also covered princess diaries that might have been the only other gary marshall movie we've covered because we have not done pretty woman yet no oh he also has pretty woman loyalty in this julia roberts is in the movie I would say Julia Roberts is perhaps doing him a favor god so many late twists in this movie I can't wait I was writing down all of the twists at the end where you're like the twist is Bradley Cooper is gay the twist is Julia Roberts is not dead the twist is that the kid was in love with Jennifer Garner like you're just like every twist more baffling than the last.

Yeah. Oh, also Gary Marshall directed Overboard, which we haven't covered. We have not covered. We have covered Runaway Bride, which he directed. Did he also not direct A League of Their Own, which we have covered? No, that is a Penny Marshall movie. Oh, silly me. How dare I? Wow. Erasing women's work. Classic Caitlin Durante. No, I mean, which is another cool element of Gary Marshall. Maybe the coolest thing about him is that he is Penny Marshall's brother. And we love Penny Marshall. Hollywood dynasty has directed a lot of great stuff and also this movie that we're covering

today I would be really curious like outside of trying to re-alchemize like make American love actually over and over like what the motivation is maybe at some point in your career if you're getting older you just want to like have fun and hang out with all of your cool Hollywood friends. And the quality is not as important. I don't know. I'm like kind of unbothered. I'm bothered by a lot of specific things in this movie. Conceptually, I do think that right now, now more than ever,

there is a desire for smooth brained entertainment of this ilk. Yeah. Because life is hard. Life is so hard and we need an escape. But also watching this movie is hard. So it's challenging. Oh, should we explain what the Bechdel test is? I guess.

All right. All right. All right. We'll tell you what the show is. You win. Also, my name is Jamie. And my name is Caitlin. And this is the Bechdel cast where

we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens using the Bechdel test as a jumping off point. But Jamie, what is that? Well, the Bechdel test is a media metric created by queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel, often called the Bechdel-Wallace test due to it being created with Liz Wallace. It was originally put into Bechtel's comic strip Dykes to Watch Out For. It has since become kind of an iconic media metric that has been used in a lot of things, including this show sometimes at the end of every episode. We use it as a jumping off point for discussion to talk about larger intersectional issues today inside of the movie valentine's day i will say you know just leading with this that this movie does pass the bechdel test it does the ways in

which it passes are really weird sometimes between anne Hathaway and Queen Latifah talking about sports marketing. That's such a rom-com thing. Sports marketing. You're just like, what? Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. Yes.

What is your history with Valentine's Day, Gary Marshall 2010? You'll never believe this, but i had seen this movie before i don't know what on earth would have ever compelled me to watch it okay i think it might have been because people were just they were up in arms about the taylor lautner and taylor swift of it all that's the main thing I remember from this was that unbelievably effective marketing. Yes. But that still wouldn't have compelled me to watch this movie because like, I like Taylor Swift. I think she's talented. But I'm also like, I wouldn't call myself a Swifty. I'm not enough of a fan to really engage with her music that much. So that

wouldn't even been it. Like, I don't know why on earth I would have ever watched this movie. But I did. But I didn't even know that until I started prepping for this episode. I was like, wow, all of this is familiar. I apparently watched this within the past three years. Why though? Why did I do that? We'll never know. Why did you do that? Were you getting ready for your I hate Valentine's Day party? Sorry.

Of the many like hysterically baffling phrases that this script turns out, there's so many good ones. The I hate Valentine's Day party is one of my favorite ones because it's just like clunky, clunky, clunky. And people keep saying, are you going to the i hate valentine's day party it's no uh i'm gay and i'm gonna play that's a pretty iconic line that

happens in this movie it sure does i mean talk about trailblazing i'm gay and i'm gonna play i had an explosion of emotion when he said i'm gay and i'm gonna play so you had seen this movie i really had more than once just that one time okay and now twice more to prep for this episode love it and i don't like that that's true about me what is your relationship with this movie i didn't see this but i was kind of surprised because I was in high school when this movie came out. Like, theoretically, I could have seen it. But I think I got I remember specifically seeing He's Just Not That Into You, which is this same formula of a million storylines that we have covered. And I think after I saw that, I was like, I'm good on this format and I just did not go to see this movie fair the thing I also

remember about this movie was the Taylor Taylor marketing yes which makes sense because they kind of are the big millennial draw of this movie like most of this cast appeals to gen x if not boomers with the casting so it's like we had the tailors if you weren't hooked by the tailors maybe ashton kutcher would have brought you in if you were a younger even then it was like tophra grace and ashton kutcher like that 70s show had kind of come and gone at that point i think it was was over. Well, definitely. But when I was in high school, I was watching that 70s show. So if you're an elder millennial such as myself... Maybe you would show up for them. I would have maybe shown up for them.

You have, you know, a lot of 2000s fixtures. You have McDreamy. You have Jessica Alba. You have Jessica Biel. I'm just going to read off the cast really quick. Just so... And are you comfortable with... I'm not going to know what the character names are. No, I did what I did last time for the New Year's Eve episode. I'm using strictly actors' names and zero characters' names.

Although I am going to toss some of the names out because they are the most rom-comified gobbledygook ever. Jessica Alba as Morley Clarkson. You're like, what is her yeah sorry about morley clarkson and sorry to all our morley clarkson listeners out there but that name is very fake we have one million morley clarksons who just unsubscribed they're like how dare you not all morleys would break up with Ashton Kutcher. Okay. Jessica Alba, Kathy Bates, Jessica Biel, Bradley Cooper, Eric Dane.

I don't remember who that is, but he's gay and he's going to play. Wait, we just covered a movie that he was in. He's in Burlesque that we covered on the Matreon. I didn't know who he was then. I don't know who he is now. I still don't know. With all due respect to him, i guess he's on euphoria which i haven't watched oh he's i think jacob ellardy's dad we love that for him yeah i've

only seen one and a half episodes of that show and then i was like this hurts my feelings i have to stop i just simply didn't watch it and if that makes me old I don't want to be young. Anyways in this movie Eric Dane's gay and he's going to play. Then we have Patrick Dempsey Hector Elizondo aka Joe from Princess Diaries, Jamie Foxx Jennifer Garner, Topher Grace Anne Hathaway, Ashton Kutcher

Queen Latifah, Taylor Lautner, George Lopez, Shirley MacLaine really confusing assuming she was doing him a favor assuming they've worked together before Emma Roberts, Julia Roberts and Taylor Swift 5,000

people it's one of those movies and we don't like Love Actually and this is like I don't know at least this one is like so smooth brained that I'm like well I don't know at least this one is like so smooth brain that i'm like well i don't know love actually whether you like it or not at least it's like mostly coherent this movie is not yeah i mean i just i just love how incoherent this movie is i'm gonna give it

five nipples no matter what and i'm gonna give a negative five just to counteract that so much of this they open with morally clarkson well i guess it should be should we get into it yeah before you start the recap i did just whatever if you're listening you know the format of these movies you see little vignette every scene is 45 seconds long and something really dramatic happens in 45 seconds and then they keep it pushing. But like in this one, it's the first three scenes you see are, I believe, three white hetero couples in bed. And something important happens while the man is standing up and the woman is lying down. Oh, I didn't even. There's no variety.

There's no variety in what is happening in these scenes. The second time I watched this movie, I was kind of only just listening to the dialogue and not actually looking at my screen because this movie is so visually uninteresting and it doesn't really matter what's taking place on screen because it's just like... Although sometimes there's good stuff though.

Every time they show the Taylor Swift swift bear which looks to me not to but like it looks like i don't know why i kept writing down like horcrux bear like it just looks like something is something evil is inside of it and then they do this like at the end of the incredible storyline between the tailors they end it with like this lingering shot on the bear and it just kind of felt like mithrigan to me latin's got cameras in the bear i'm calling it i don't know when this movie's coming out but there's that movie imaginary okay there are two movies coming out this year that are both about imaginary friends. One is like an animated movie for like children. OK. And one is a horror movie where a little girl has a little stuffed bear who her like demon spirit imaginary friend lives inside and he like makes her do evil things.

And so it's kind of like that. Now we're talking. I love that shit. That's I think that that is the energy i was getting from the taylor lauder taylor swift there and also from the taylor lauder taylor swift relationship in general which it's so like i'll go this is one of our goofy episodes that we do every year i'm gonna go ahead and plug one of my favorite podcasts, Who Weekly, and also Les Culturistas, where they both discussed the recent resurgence of Taylor Taylor, because now Taylor Lautner, I've said it many times on the show, he bought around at the Cha Cha Lounge once. That's not something, you know, someone who's doing well would do. Or it's someone who's doing great. Here the thing though would you i was talking about this

with friend of the show melissa lozada oliva last night when you buy a round for the bar at the cha-cha lounge on a wednesday you have effectively spent 36 dollars so are you doing great you know it's not the baller move it's it seems to be anyways all love to taylor lotner but it's so wild because like taylor swift is 40 times more famous than she was when she was in this movie and she was already really famous yeah and now taylor lotner like did a backflip at a screening of the taylor swift concert movie recently wow have you seen that video? No, I haven't.

It's kind of awesome. It like, I mean, all shade aside, Taylor Lautner is a very funny, he seems like a good sport. But like, why did he go to the AMC and do a backflip? Oh, he did it at the AMC? He did it just like around civilians. He just like went to Burbank and did a backflip. And also everyone was like, oh, the Taylor Taylor relationship is even in the blooper reel. And for some reason, I know it's come up on this show before.

Taylor Lautner married a woman named Taylor. The Taylor's Lautner. Oh, that's right. So he just seems, I don't know. He seems maybe lovely, but also like, what's going on with that guy? He did a backflip at the AMC. That's all I'll say. Yeah. That's the like varying levels of fame that they're at these days.

She's at like billionaire global pop star getting regularly rightfully criticized for her carbon footprint. Famous. Taylor Lautner, meanwhile, backflip at the amc burbank awesome and let's not forget the crime he committed by in five twilight movies playing an indigenous character when he yes is not indigenous yes i mean i i also still mainly blame the production for that because he was like a teenager when he started doing this. Yeah, many mistakes were made. But let's take a quick break and then come back for the recap.

Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.

One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that?

You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this. We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling.

It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar.

Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. I am curious if I don't know if Taylor Lautner has ever commented on being cast as a indigenous character down the line, because I do feel like he has a responsibility to yeah you know comment on it at some point you know when you're a teenager it's like okay the adults in the room need to make the right decision and not cast him but i just wonder i don't know yeah i will have to look into that in any case here is the recap for the movie Valentine's Day. Like I mentioned, I will be referring to the characters as their actors' names because there are 1,000 characters and zero of them are memorable. So I'll be using the actors' names. Okay, so the story takes place in Los Angeles.

Ever heard of it? Oh, yeah. And guess what day it is? is oh they won't stop reminding it's valentine's day first we meet ashton kutcher he proposes to his girlfriend jessica alba and she says yes and then he's like we yeah this is the first scene where a woman in the bed, guy out of the bed, 45 second scene, something critical happens. The baffling part of this scene is that Jessica Alba has like perfect hair that is down when she wakes up. And makeup. Perfect.

Just everything. She's stunning. I mean, God bless. I would like to live in this world. Yeah. So Ashton Kutcher is so excited to be engaged. Also, he's a florist. Yes, he goes to work. He's a florist. His colleague is George Lopez, and they're doing flower stuff. George Lopez iconically is an authority on love and the poetry of Rumi in this movie and he also

is constantly referencing this wife that he's in love with who never speaks. At the very end she does appear but for most of the movie again just if we're reframing this as a horror movie I'm like I don't necessarily think this wife exists and if she does I don't necessarily think this wife exists.

And if she does, I don't know that she's alive. Imaginary friend? More like imaginary wife. Where's that movie? Probably on Tubi. That movie is called The Joker. Got their ass. Oh, I liked it.

Okay. So then we meet Jamie Foxx. He's a sports journalist at a local news station and his boss, Kathy Bates, wants him to cover Valentine's Day stories, even though that's not his job. Kathy Bates was available for 45 minutes to shoot this movie. She is in two scenes that are in the exact same location. Awesome. Yeah, so cool. So Jamie Foxx goes to the flower market and ends up interviewing Ashton Kutcher.

Sure. Yes. Not before something racist happens, but we'll get back to that. Oh, we'll get there. Yeah. Then we meet Patrick Dempsey. He is a doctor, not unlike his job on Grey's Anatomy, right? I've never seen that show. Yeah, they were not pushing him. He is dating Jennifer Garner, but he can't spend Valentine's day with her because he has to fly to San Francisco for a surgery or something.

Then we meet Topher Grace and Anne Hathaway. Another, there you wake up in bed together. Yes. Oh, wait, I forgot to say the interesting thing about this scene with Patrick Dempsey and Jennifer Garner is that she is eating an apple in bed first thing in the morning. Well, that's to set up an amazing metaphor.

Jamie, tell me if you can understand this visual metaphor. I was hoping that this would come up organically, please. Yes, here we go. So in a number of scenes, we see Patrick Dempsey's character juggling pieces of fruit. And it's to symbolize the fact that his character is also juggling two different relationships. Do you understand? I think it's really important that they get the metaphor across exclusively by comparing women to objects, to pieces of fruit, at least, you know, beautiful, organic objects. The metaphor was not lost on me. And also the stark visual of a woman eating an apple in bed at seven in the morning my gums would be gushing it would be a bloodbath so i just i love i love movie i love the movie no one has gum disease in movie they're too hot they're too sexy yeah okay so we meet topher Grace and Anne Hathaway we find out later that

they've been dating for a couple weeks the weird thing she's doing is taking polaroid pictures of him in bed like a serial killer yeah anyway they're smooching but then she has to leave in a big hurry because surprise she is a phone sex operator who needs to take a call. But she also has several other jobs. I mean, this is like contextualized in the story. But just the way it's written. And I get like this movie came out during the recession. It was like badly written, timely commentary on like millennials trying to be adults in the world

but it's hard she's just like sneaking out of her job at queen latifah world to loudly take the phone sex operator calls and just like this is just not how it would go surely there's a break room she's like in front of queen latifah's door yes i have a list of just like what the fuck okay things that happened in this movie and that is on my list i will perfect go over the list later on love it but yes none of that makes sense not slick no so then we meet shir Shirley McClain and Hector Elizondo. They have been married for many years. They have a young grandson who goes to Ashton Kutcher's flower shop to order roses for the girl at school who he's in love with. Then we meet Julia Roberts and Bradley Cooper. They are strangers sitting on a plane next to each other headed to LA. She is in the military, also was having a difficult time believing that Julia Roberts would play a military person. Which I don't doubt her acting ability,

but she just does look like Julia Roberts and I really loved I mean we're supposed to be thinking that Bradley and Julia are going to get together for the whole movie and then there's a twist at the end but yeah I have written down thank you for serving Julia Roberts and I also really like there's like this scene between them where she's like i'm in the military so i can tell that you have trouble committing because you don't like heart-shaped candy i was like do they teach that in army she's i think it's implied that she is in some kind of like special forces. Yeah, it seems like she's doing war crimes. And she's like, listen, the first thing you learn in Navy SEALs basic training is what Bradley Cooper looks like when he's having trouble committing. It's so bizarre. I love it. Anyway,

we learned that she's on a 14 hour flight from wherever she's coming from. I think that they keep it intentionally vague. Super vague. To not imply her in any specific war crimes. Right. Right. Yeah. And so she's on this 14 hour flight to spend only one day with her loved one, whoever that might be.

Bradley Cooper assumes they're fucking. Yes. Bradley Cooper makes all sorts of assumptions. For sure. And I'll talk more about that later. But anyway, we get all that information. Then we cut back to Jennifer Garner and Ashton Kutcher, their best friends. Exhausting. He encourages her to surprise Patrick Dempsey in San Francisco. But this is when we learn that he was lying about going to San Francisco, and he actually has a wife and a kid, which Jennifer Garner does not know about.

He's a dog. Yes. Back to Anne hathaway so when she's not doing phone sex work she works for queen latifah who is a sports agent who reps a football player eric dane whose career seems like it's on the decline people are like is he gonna retire they keep calling him old. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they're trying to make him like Tom Brady coded. Oh, yeah. But maybe that wasn't true in 2010. Whatever. A football player who people speculate his career is almost over. But the twist is he's gay and he's going to play. He's gay and he's going play yeah i just love that line wow so queen latifah and eric

dane get together for a meeting along with his publicist jessica beal so jessica has entered the chat and she is a mess she's so neurotic we need to get her to a hospital this is like a really great, just so bananas over the top, Manic Pixie Dream Girl taken to an extreme that it does seem like she's not well. Yeah. Then we meet Emma Roberts. She is a high school student who plans to have sex for the first time with her boyfriend during their lunch period. Awesome Kristen Schaal appearance where Kristen Schaal plays a teacher and Emma Roberts is like, I'm going to go fuck right now. And Kristen Schaal's like, oh, that's sort of the scene. I enjoyed that jump scare. I thought it was fun. Also, Emma Roberts is being like peak 2010 in this movie

by only wearing really uncomfortable looking ballet flats in every single scene. Oh, true. Yeah. Where it's like the kind of shoes where you can see the knuckles of your toes. Nasty. Anyways. I was also wearing those in 2010. We all were.

We were all flat footed Barbies back then. Okay. So also at this high school are Taylor Swift and Taylor Lautner. They are dating. He has bought her an enormous teddy bear. That's haunted. That might have an evil demon living inside of it. Horcrux bear.

Yes. Then Emma Roberts' boyfriend goes to her house to prepare for their sex that they're going to have. And he takes off his clothes but emma roberts mom comes home and catches him naked so he runs outside still naked and we're like haha awesome comedy meanwhile ashton is so annoying excited about being gay he's so annoying Jessica Alba however his fiance she's not as excited and he doesn't seem to notice anyway I mean honestly fair like not to go back to their first scene together but again he wakes her up she's perfect because it's a movie. She's perfect. But the first thing she says, hi. And then he launches in and says, when I was a kid, most of the advice my dad gave me was crap.

I was like, if you as my boyfriend are starting the day with that. No. Like, good morning would be awesome. And then he proposes and we don't see her actually say yes it almost seems like he just shoves the ring on her finger and assumes the answer is yes right which at least is sort of commented on later when she dumps his ass but i just do like this is like a place where like love actually actually does feel like way better paced but because so many scenes have to happen it does feel like there is like a bomb in the room that will go off after 75 seconds if they don't get all the stuff out like some of the scenes move so it for a movie where like nothing interesting happens it's really hard to watch these movies because so much is happening. Like you cannot look away. And they're two hours long.

So it's- And you cast 40 people. Right, exactly. Okay, so Patrick Dempsey goes to Ashton Kutcher's flower shop to buy flowers for both his wife, his wife, and his secret girlfriend, Jennifer Garner. And Ashton Kutcher's thinking to himself, hang on, that's my friend, Jennifer Garner. And Ashton Kutcher is thinking to himself, hang on, that's my friend, Jennifer Garner, which means my friend's boyfriend is secretly married.

So he goes to Jennifer Garner's work, she's an elementary school teacher, to try to tell her that her boyfriend is secretly married, but he doesn't get a chance to tell her she still doesn't know then ashton goes home to his lady love jessica alba to leave a valentine's day gift but he discovers that she's about to leave him all of her stuff is packed up and she breaks up with him and even his dog doesn't love him. It's kind of awesome. Brutal. And he's like, damn, well, I better go stop Jennifer Garner from getting on that plane to San Francisco. So he rushes to the airport. We get an extremely rom-com cliche running through the airport. But this time it's not to stop the love of his life.

It's to stop a friend. And we're like, wow, subversive, but actually. I think the weirdest part of that scene is that like, it's such a well-worn trope that I was like conditioning myself to be like, oh, wow, the movie's almost over. And then you look at the runtime, you're like, it is like we're less than halfway in at the airport run. Seriously?

I was like overwhelmed with such relief and then dread that whole scene is so long we do get paulo puttanesca at least true yes anyway so he does tell her that her boyfriend is married but jennifer garner refuses to believe it and she gets on the plane anyway question mark i have a lot of questions about that. Because the next time we see her, she's in LA. I was so confused. I was like, did she get off at San Francisco? But then you could hear a nurse clearly say, also a very funny bad line. Hello, you've reached Los Angeles Hospital. And so you're like, not a real place well i guess

they are in la i would love to reach los angeles hospital yes okay so none of that made sense either jamie foxx goes and tries to get an exclusive on eric dane the football player from jessica beal who is upset because she's single and she feels all alone. First of all, she's on the floor and he's like, is she good? And they're like, well, she's usually fine on the 4th of July and even St. Patrick's Day. But on Valentine's Day, she is sad. She looks dead.

Right. And then they fall in love and you're like you're like sure but anyway so yeah she's upset not only because she's single and she feels lonely but also no one has rsvp'd to her i hate valentine's day party which she's throwing at an indian restaurant at the same time as a wedding reception which i'm just like we've gotta call the restaurant because you do have to pick one of those events yeah and it's the wedding because no one's coming to jessica beale's i hate valentine's day party but then everyone shows up it's ridiculous including 20 people we've never met before like majority characters we do not know yes anyway she's like i hate valentine's day and jamie foxx is also like i hate valentine's day

i wish i could just sports all day long and she's like i wish i could sports all day long but i also crave love and he's like okay and then there's a big pratfall with a bunch of chocolates yes disaster oh anyway he leaves and then Eric Dane the football player comes out as gay at a press conference but what does he say he's, I'm gay and I'm going to play. What a win. Well, because everyone's like, congratulations. Good for you. But are you retiring? Like, that's what this press conference is supposed to be about.

Yeah. He does come out instead of answering a question. But then he expands because he's gay and he's going to play. And I mean, as goofy as that scene is, I was like, okay, 2010, not bad. You know, gay marriage was not legal in many places at the time when this movie came out and was tremendously successful.

So can we chalk that legislation eventually passing up to Eric Dane saying I'm gay and I'm going to play? I think we obviously can. I think that it's certainly a big part I don't know any inclusion in this movie is like very bare bones 2010s I mean that's what most of my notes are about because it's abysmal yeah I'm sure that we have identical notes but never forget that he is gay and he's gonna play.

But will we let him kiss on screen? No, we won't. No. Anyway, so then Topher Grace takes Anne Hathaway to a Valentine's dinner where he discovers that she's a phone sex worker. And he's like, ooh, yucky. Bye forever. Awesome. Then Taylor Swift and Taylor Lautner are at gym class or track practice.

We're not really sure. Being interviewed by a reporter. My boyfriend at this point in the movie got very critical of a specific background actor who I then could not stop looking at. Not the reporter, the guy holding the camera, where just like based on his energy, it's just like so obviously not a real camera and not on. Like it's not really pointing at anybody. And he's sort of like slouching over.

And I celebrate that background actor. I love that. It's like when a movie where someone like takes a sip from a mug that's clearly empty and they like don't. The mechanics and physicality of drinking are like just. There's a couple of moments in this movie where it's like, I don't think we've brought this up in an episode in a while. But the sort of like character with one line energy where it's very like sad card please there's a couple characters in here that have huge sad card please energy about them and i love it yeah the security guard at the airport who's like hi i'm a security guard

you're just like give her her sad card she's like put your shoes on ashton Kutcher. It's gross here. Great. But yeah, so it's I unfortunately know exactly enough about Taylor Swift to know that a lot of what they're saying in this scene where nothing happens is like references to 2010 era Taylor Swift and Taylor Lautner where it's like my favorite number is 13. I would never take off my shirt. Like, okay. Ha ha. Tee hee.

Okay. So then Shirley MacLaine reveals to her husband, Hector Elizondo, that she had an affair with his business partner some years ago. And also in this movie, she's Shirley MacLaine? It appears to be that she is, yeah's just playing herself but she's named estelle but she's actually because later they go to hollywood forever and they see a shirley mclean movie and he's like that's my wife right literally do you know what movie that was no i don't i didn't either so he's upset and he's you know discovered that his wife charlie mclean was unfaithful he's

straight and he's not gonna play exactly yeah so he goes to hollywood forever cemetery by himself for any non-la listeners that's a place that's a real cemetery but they do a bunch of movie screenings so he goes to watch a movie there that his wife shirley mclean is in so they're like watching a movie from i don't know the 50s or 60s i guess the 60s yes and i wanted to figure out i meant to and then i apologize to our listeners i did not remember to follow through on this because I was like, it looked like the scene that they eventually kiss in front of where a younger Shirley MacLaine is kissing another actor. It didn't seem like it was like a really happy scene.

Yeah. Like, it seemed like a sad goodbye kiss. Not like, I'm getting back together with Joe from The Princess Diaries. True. But that is what happens because shirley mclean comes to the cemetery to find him and then she's like i'm sorry but if you love me you have to love all the parts of me even the cheater parts and he's like you're right okay that i mean what a mess is like first of all no he doesn't no he doesn't you had sex with his best

friend he doesn't have to forgive you and he's like yes I do I was wrong you're like when did when were you wrong I mean I understand that she let's take this story really seriously I was just struggling with it because it was like okay she said that she was lonely and that he was away a lot and I understand that that like level of spousal neglect will sometimes lead to infidelity right but like does he have to forgive her six hours later good question or ever and also the fact that tofer grace seems to think that that is like a one to one with his situation which is completely. And he is very much the villain of. Yes.

Anyways, I liked the cape that Shirley MacLaine wears to her own movie. If I was a movie star, I would show up in a cape to my movies also and be really disruptive. Yeah, everyone's like down in front and she's like shut the fuck up i'm trying to kiss my husband i think it's so weird that he just went ahead

and said he's married to shirley mclean and then she's like hi i'm estelle anyway well they kiss and make up so everything's fine there and then topher grace sees this and he realizes that he judged Anne Hathaway and her job too harshly. He sure did. Meanwhile, Jennifer Garner gets confirmation that her boyfriend, Patrick Dempsey, is married. Yeah, she goes to Los Angeles Hospital in San Francisco. In San Francisco. I guess she just doesn't get on the plane and we're never told but we see her go into the doorway to get onto the plane I know she just got off on the tarmac

I don't understand and then he said he was going to do heart surgery in San Francisco I don't know I don't know any heart surgeons and there's also like a weird line he has at the beginning where he's like, you know, doctors were always traveling. I was like, that's not really the first thing I think of when I think about doctors. Right. Anyways, I don't know what city she's in, but her boyfriend does have a wife. Yeah. And she finds out where he's having dinner with his wife oh yeah another great fake name for something it's like pp gardens or something bistro gardens you're just like that's words yeah i'm taking the wife out to pp gardens for our 15th anniversary anyway so jennifer garner goes to this restaurant and pretends to be the server and she calls him

out for being a two-timing cheater and he's like oh no and then his wife is like what's going on that yeah another very like weird I mean it's like if Jennifer Garner can't make something charming then you're in trouble. But it's such a weird scene where she's talking about like killing a pig or something. We get it. We get it. Dinner at PP Gardens ruined. Yeah.

Then Jennifer Garner goes to Jessica Biel's I Hate Valentine's Day party where the little boy from earlier shows up and professes his love for Jennifer Garner. I hate this twist because we've been led to believe. And first of all, I'm like, why am I invested in this nine year old's love life? They're clearly trying to replicate the little boy from love, actually, and his storyline where he loves one of his classmates. So we think that same thing is happening here but no no no the twist is he's in love with his adult teacher and i feel like it's almost implied that he's in love with her because he misses his mom who ends up being joya roberts which it's like you could examine that dynamic in a movie that's not this movie where it's like he's because it's like whatever kids get confused all this stuff at least she doesn't

say anything really creepy like i was expecting her to like one of those like call me in 10 years you're like anytime someone says that to like an eight-year-old in a movie you're like don't call her in 10 years yeah but that sequence of events was really fun because these movies so desperately need every character to be tangentially connected to someone else that like emma roberts not for nothing worst babysitter in the history of babysitters the kid gets kidnapped twice under her view because the kid makes his teacher realize that she's in love with Ashton Kutcher meanwhile unbeknownst to Jennifer Garner Ashton Kutcher has just technically kidnapped this kid yeah and driven him to the restaurant which obviously this kid is not at risk for a stranger danger

apparently he's like i've met this florist he could give me a ride and then emma roberts sees him and thinks he's being abducted which he kind of is but then he's like don't worry i'm a florist you're like what and meanwhile his grandparents are too busy kissing at the hollywood forever cemetery to notice that he's missing. Well, in their defense, they did hire a babysitter. She just is too horny to babysit. Yeah. They did hire Emma Roberts, but she was so focused on fucking her boyfriend at lunch.

Her boyfriend, who's the delivery driver at the restaurant where the I Hate Valentine's Day party is taking place. Useless. Because it's all connected. All right. So then the little boy professes his love for Jennifer Garner. And she's like, well, what about that girl who's your age from your class? You're friends, but maybe that could turn into love. And this helps her realize that maybe the person she

has loved all along is her best friend, Ashton Kutcher. Don't do it. Don't do it. And then this is when we start to get some, you know, tying up of these storylines where Emma Roberts realizes she's not ready to have sex yet. And she tells her boyfriend and he's like, that's okay. We can still make out. And then they kiss. Amazing journey that they've been on. Then Julia Roberts and Bradley Cooper's plane lands in LA. He gives her access to his private car so that she can spend extra time with her loved one, who he assumes is her husband, but it ends up being her son the little boy who

loves jennifer garner wow whoa i do feel like they buried alito that big time where they talk about her as if she is like dead yes they do at the beginning the twist is she's not dead she's julia roberts and she's in the military she's navy seals SEALs Julia Roberts. I really, I'm just like, she is getting back from doing something so. Evil. Catastrophically evil. Yes. But her son is so big. She just ends with, you're so big, you're so big.

Anyways, goodbye to those characters. Yes, goodbye to them. Then we find out that the person Bradley Cooper is going to see is Eric Dane, because they're together, or they were, but they broke up. But then Bradley Cooper saw him coming does not work out at all because we are led to believe that the Eric Dane character comes out while Bradley Cooper is already on the plane. For sure. Yeah, 100%. That's what happened. So how did he know? Where was he going? How did he know? He was like, if you don't come out on national television on Valentine's Day, I'm dumping your ass. And and i'm gonna get a flight to la just in case that does happen and like what was his job and why was he 14 hours away by plane i think he

was also doing war crimes because he has a lot of money i don't know i think he's like an oil executive or he's something like really quite evil but anyways they're gay they're gonna play and then it cuts away in a very 2010 move it's like oh wow two gay characters they can't kiss they can just be near each other they can lightly embrace but that's it yeah representation win i can't get that line out of my mind it's so funny it's poetry is what it is uh okay then topher grace goes to ann hathaway and they make up i'm gonna gloss over this because i want to talk about it later in the discussion yeah disaster truly she should dump him seriously then jamie foxx and jessica beale get together in what I feel might be the most contrived storyline of them all. But they're kissing now. Yeah, they're kissing in front of

a green screen. And then Jennifer Garner goes to Ashton Kutcher being like, hey, maybe we're in love. And then they kiss. And it's awkward. And they're like oh I don't know but I don't maybe we can make this work and that's how the movie ends oh and then one more shot of the horcrux bear we mustn't forget Taylor Swift is in an elevator and I think half of she's in four scenes two scenes she's in front of the school she's at the football field and then she's in four scenes two scenes she's in front of the school she's at the football field and then she's in the elevator two times her first scene is so funny because she's just like talking to jennifer garner and being annoying question mark yeah we'll get there anyways that's the movie and then a thousand bloopers yeah and then it's finally over it's finally

over after two hours let's take another break and we'll come back to discuss. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you.

I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110.

120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.

This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre.

And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. Today was a fairy tale there's also like original taylor swift song to go with it that's true this movie was so successful i mean in the sense that it got a lot of money at the box office it had a 52 million dollar budget it grossed 216 million yes at the box office a critical flop though oh i mean it goes without saying this whole era of not even just gary marshall just this format because it's like he's just not that into you same same deal but when it's a drama like crash then it wins an oscar for some, even though that movie is pee-pee-poop-hoo. I was saying, we just recorded our burlesque episode,

and I confess that I sometimes mix up Stanley Tucci and Alan Cumming. For a similar baffling, I often mix up the movie Crash and Sideways. So I've been avoiding watching Sideways for years for apparently no reason. I guess it's a good movie. And I thought it was Crash, which is a bad movie. But I just was like, I don't want to. I don't know. Well, anyway, let's talk about Valentine's Day.

Jesus Christ. Okay. Didn't like my little story. All right. Don't know. No, no, no. Who do you want to talk about first well i guess i just want to make a broad statement that in an ensemble movie like this where there are literally dozens of characters it is very very easy to have an incredibly diverse cast, but the movie doesn't do that. It largely

centers white, straight, cis, able-bodied people who are traditionally attractive by Western beauty standards. Yeah. The characters who are not white generally don't have the same love stories. I think the only characters that have actual love stories are J.B. Fox. Right. I mean, for example, George Lopez is there to uplift Ashton Kutcher's character. He does have sort of, but it's not a love story line. No. It's just a scene where he kisses his wife for two seconds. And it's also so scary because they don't let her speak. And I was like, what is,

it's really giving like decoy wife. Yeah. It doesn't work. Like you're saying, he's just there to read roomy poetry to Ashton Kutcher. Yeah. And the same with like Queen Latifah is very much like a supporting character, comic relief who does not get even an attempted storyline no amongst other things that are off about that character but yeah for the most part it's like overwhelmingly like we're looking at

white and white passing couples who are bad for each other yeah for sure there is one queer couple it's true and it feels as though the writer of the movie who is named katherine fugate she also wrote new year's eve if i'm not mistaken she did she also wrote a julia styles movie i've never seen but i know it's like kind of a millennial movie called The Prince and Me. Haven't seen it. Oh yeah I vaguely remember that. It feels like it's just like oh we have a quota to fill. We need one gay couple so that everyone will shut up about there not being enough queer representation. Well it's really telling that the fact that there has been a gay couple in the movie the whole time is like a twist at the very end of the movie. Like the twist Bradley Cooper is gay because you're supposed to I think you're supposed to think the whole time that he's going to end up with Julia Roberts. For sure.

Because in movies like this if you're sitting next to each other you have to get married. Yeah exactly. But not the case here. Instead, all of the scenes between him and Julia Roberts are incredibly weird because they're talking around this trope of if you sit next to each other, you have to get married. And where rather than the audience learning that he's gay early on. And then like we see him decide whether or not to come out publicly because that would be a major choice, especially for an American football player where like that's an extremely homophobic organization. And, you know, right. Like it still is. But we don't see that him coming out is treated like a big twist right and it seems like it only happens to set up a string of

homophobic jokes that jamie foxx will make later on during his sports journalism broadcast and it's like the fact that the jokes are framed within the movie as like good-natured and like ultimately he's supportive but he's just gonna say a bunch of homophobic stuff on tv and then be like ah just kidding buddy i support you you're just like it's so so dated the way that the only queer couple in the movie, which is like, this movie is so weirdly written that everything was surprising to me because it wasn't actually set up in any way. So you're like, oh, okay, I guess Julia Roberts is alive

and that kid's mom. Yeah, no, I thought the entire, I mean, it was a very 2010 attempt to include a gay character. But yeah, every plot point is like, surprise, he's gay. And we don't see them together for most of the movie. There's just like one 10 second moment at the end where they lightly embrace. Again, they're not allowed to kiss because heaven forbid we had queer characters kissing on screen in a movie in 2010 which is like a conversation that was at least extend to like 2017 with like josh gad being like a huge win for queer representation

i slow danced with a man in the background of a scene in beauty and the beast and you're just like get out of here josh gad and anyways also as we discussed discussed, Bradley Cooper keeps talking to Julia Roberts being like, wow, that guy that you're in love with romantically who you're going to go visit for one day. What a lucky guy. And oh, my gosh. Wow. Why doesn't she just correct him? Why doesn't she correct him? And it's also just weird that so he's like seemingly making an assumption that she's seeing a romantic partner.

It doesn't make any sense that one of the few queer characters in the movie would be making such a heteronormative assumption. Yeah. That doesn't track to me. The whole thing doesn't make sense unless I'm like, I guess we don't technically know if that character is closeted. Although we're led to believe that he isn't based on how he reacts to like his partner coming out because I feel like the vibe is supposed to be like now we can be together right but I don't know is he like an out oil executive we know nothing about him I guess that that is the job I projected onto him but I do think I'm right for some reason I mean he has enough money to have a private limo pick him up from the airport and

take him anywhere he wants to go. The trouble is, we don't know enough about him or his relationship with Eric Dane. We have to project all this stuff on to him because the movie doesn't care enough about, I mean, any of the characters, but especially this queer couple. Yeah, it's like it always feels pronounced in the one relationship out of 40 that is a queer relationship. And it's like it always feels pronounced in the one relationship out of 40 that is a queer relationship and it's like i don't know outside of existing it's not doing anything because also this is just a general observation this movie like really goes willy-nilly on like who gets a last name and who doesn't there's really no rhyme or reason. Half the characters have full names. Half the characters don't. Jessica Alba is Morley Clarkson, whereas Bradley Cooper is Holden.

Yeah. Jennifer Garner is Julia Fitzpatrick, whereas Topher Grace is Jason. We don't know. I liked that. That's a compliment I'm going to give. It's just like brain dead, you know? Yes. So that's one relationship that is horrible I mean I just wanted to sort of talk about the overall just very like of the time

2010 racism that's present in this movie at every opportunity I feel like you have what we were talking about earlier which is that the non-white characters that are there generally don't get the exhausting love story that we get for most of the white characters in the story and then there's like stuff that's even more aggressive like the character who works at the florist shop and the family that runs the Indian restaurant. It's just like so, so, so heavily stereotyped that it feels like egregious for 2010. Like it feels like it's like 1982 egregious movie racism.

For sure. This movie is obsessed with jokes that are at the expense of people who don't speak English as their first language. There are a number of jokes to that effect. There's stereotypes about Latinx people in LA. We see the like George Lopez's cousin in his car. And that's hilarious because Ashton Kutcher drives in the car and it's all very tropey. Then there's an Asian character that works at the floral shop. We don't even know where. It's just like a general stereotyped Asian racist character.

The movie doesn't give us enough information to even... It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. What happens there is Jamie Foxx is interviewing him. Oh, I'm thinking of another character. So there's another character where Jamie Foxx is interviewing a man who works at like the flower market where floral shop owners go.

Oh, sorry. Yes. But there is someone who also works. Yes. Right, right, right, right. So it's just racism all over the place. And I know we have to reference it. It just feels depressing to even give it airtime. The character who works at Ashton Kutcher's Flower World or fucking whatever, it's another

fake ass name where it's like Santa Flowers or I don't even know, like something ridiculous. But the character who works at the flower shop is subjected to the same lazy joke about like why don't you speak english he's like yelling at a bulgarian woman for he's like i had to learn english so do you and then ashton kutcher joins in on the fun and then also he's subjected to like homophobic tropes too or i feel like he's heavily queer coded and he's saying that he knows every dressmaker in las vegas right and then anyways you never see him again true yeah a lot of the humor of this movie or attempts at humor and comedy come from just relying on stereotypes harmful reductive stereotypes yeah and the end like a huge chunk of the movie takes place at an indian restaurant the only character that we really get to know ish is the child who's friends

with julia roberts son question mark we know that she likes frank zappa i don't know why we know that but we are told that. We are told that. And there's just a lot of heavy, heavy stereotyping. I don't even want to like, yeah, it's bad. It's bad. On top of that, as we mentioned, again, there's so many opportunities for this to be a far more diverse cast based solely on just the number of characters. But we see very little diversity in every regard. There's no body diversity, especially for the characters

who are afforded a romantic storyline. Yeah. None of those characters are fat. None of those characters are disabled. There are no trans or genderqueer characters. Right. Which is not shocking for the time this came out, but I was like,

right on top of being just like grossly negligent in any interest in any diversity in your cast. I feel like we end up talking about this every time we cover a movie like this. It also makes the movie really confusing to watch because it's a lot of like white women with straight Brown hair and you're just like you know it's not even a dig to the actors but there was a few moments where I was like wait did that happen to Anne Hathaway's character or Jennifer Carter's character like they have the

same hairstyle everyone's the same age it is really confusing certainly and also because it's like impossible to get invested or root for any of these couples that you're just like who is this who is anybody there is one couple who are seniors in shirley mclean and hector elizondo i was surprised because older people's romantic life is rarely included in movies it is a story about people who are already together rather than like an older person meeting another older person and finding love that is something that's largely ignored and rarely shown on screen until the jane fonda essence of the last five to ten years. So it's like

those movies do exist but yeah this movie has no interest in it. I was sort of I was back and forth on that because it's all nonsense right? But you're like at least they were given a genuine conflict like it wasn't just like we're old because I feel like sometimes you know like grandparent characters are just there for

comic relief or just like for sure especially in these kinds of comedies. I mean, and also it would just be really insulting to those two, like really successful actors to give them nothing. So they're given a solid conflict, but that it like also it doesn't go anywhere because then she just shows up in a cape and she's like, you have to forgive me. And he's like, oh, OK. All all right then they're back together yes whatever so that one is bad uh we have who else we have we have jamie foxx and jessica beal this couple i agree i mean they're all so flimsy but these two are really i they do. I will say they have more in common than some of the couples. I'm happier for them than I am for Topher Grace and Anne Hathaway.

They both like sports and they hate Valentine's Day. I think they're going to make it. That is true. Is that the basis for a relationship? Well, we just see them kiss. We don't know what happens after that. But I mean, the bottom line in a movie like this is fine. An ensemble cast with vignettes, it can work,

but you need fewer characters, basically, to allow any of them to have any real depth or characterization. But instead, there's 48 million characters in this movie. And so they're all completely glossed over and given very little characterization, very little context. The nature of the relationships is super glossed over. It's all messy. But this one feels especially vague. I guess it didn't stick out to be as vaguer than the other ones. That's true. But I think think i was so actively it's like one of the only interracial couples in the movie and then outside of that i was like yeah they basically have nothing in common and the actors have no chemistry but like which actors in this movie do that's very

true i feel like an equal opportunity fucking sucked i don't know i should have ranked the couples in order of how little i was rooting for them. I feel like they are in the upper 50 percentile for me because at least they hate Valentine's Day and love sport. That is more context than we get for a lot of the couples. It's true. I would say the storyline that I simultaneously hated the most and the least for for reasons i'll explain right now okay was the topher grace and anne hathaway story oh that one is brutal i also just wanted to quickly say because this movie bears a lot of resemblance to he's just not that into you two of the same story by credits go to katherine fugate and then ab Cohn and Mark Silverstein, who also wrote He's Just Not That Into You. So it's all the same. It's all the same movie. It truly is. Okay, so the Topher Grace

Anne Hathaway storyline, the beats are that they've been dating for a couple weeks. He does not know at first that she works part time as an adult phone entertainer. He finds out he doesn't like it, and he breaks up with her because of it. Then he realizes his mistake after hearing other characters talk about how when you love someone, you have to love all of them, even their gross parts. And so he shows up at Anne Hathaway's apartment to try to win her back, and ultimately it works. The reason I like it, or I like kind of what happens here is based on a few lines of dialogue where Anne Hathaway says,

I feel bad about how you found out about my job. That was awkward, but that's the only thing I'm going to apologize for. Implying that she's not going to apologize for doing phone sex work, nor is she going to stop. But the big problem is that she then forgives him. I don't understand because they've been dating for two weeks. Right. Get out of there. Yeah.

You have an easy out. He's not a tolerant person. Get out of there. No, he's not. And she says that like she says, when you found out something about me that you didn't like, you judged me and bailed. And that's not a promising foundation for a relationship. I feel like that's the most meaningful analysis we get of romance in the entire movie that's otherwise about absolutely nothing.

Right. But that was why I think this is a relationship I kind of hate the most because it's like it gets so close to saying something. But then in the like next two seconds, it undercuts that completely. She's like, yes, but I forgive you. And I want to make love to my boyfriend. I was like, you guys have been together for two weeks, two weeks. Well, the reason I hate it so much is because of the implication that he only decides to get back together with her after learning that when you love someone, you have to

love the gross parts about them, implying that her doing sex work is one of the gross things about her that he has to learn to love. Right. So the whole thing just sucks. And then on top of that, I was also frustrated by the implication that, I mean, this felt less actively like I don't think that the writers were like actively trying to imply this but because the cultural dismissal of sex work is so prevalent that when Anne Hathaway introduces this information first of all like she's hiding it from people because she doesn't want to be judged which makes sense to me to the extent that like society is very hostile towards sex workers but it also is implied that she is ashamed of it and the only reason that she's doing it is because she's in debt which can be true but again it just felt like a very under thought like well

the only reason that we are rooting for this character is because she doesn't actually want to do this forever like she just wants to do it until she's out of debt and then she'll stop and get a quote-unquote regular job which it did seem like what the implication was was like I appreciated that she was unapologetic about it and that she was like I'm going to keep doing it like fuck you I need this job but I feel like it also is, but as soon as I don't have to do it, I will not because it's, I don't know. It just felt like a very like- No, I got that too.

Yeah. And then she says one of the worst lines in the movie, which is, Sugar can't answer the phone right now. She's got to make love to her boyfriend on Valentine's Day, which literally turned my stomach. He also, so her, the thing she's doing in bed at the beginning is taking the scary Polaroids. He's kept them and turns them into a murderer card and like tapes them all on a piece of construction paper, like a six-year-old and is like, take me

back. And I'm just like, he's gotta go. He's gotta go get him out out all of these people have to go yeah i'm rooting for anne hathaway's character i do think that she needs to find another room at queen latifah sports agency to take the calls okay not only is she taking the calls at her other job which like whatever i've definitely worked yeah one job while i was at my other job yeah but you gotta be smooth about it you gotta be smooth about it and she's not only taking those calls at this office where she works but she's using the office phone a lot of the time and not her private cell phone and it also is like sort of lightly implied that Queen Latifah is like picking up and listening. You're just like, what?

Queen Latifah's character, not only, I mean, we already discussed the fact that, I mean, as with many of the non-white characters in this movie, there's no suggestion or interest in giving her a storyline. I believe she's the only black woman in the movie yeah and they give her nothing uh what they do give her is really weird she yeah she makes a very dated comment about bipolar in her first line and then

everything she says is just kind of like vaguely like girl boss soup talk where she's like i have to business my football is gay like you're just like what also the thing that they have her say toward the end of the, when she picks up a phone call that's intended for Anne Hathaway, because it's another phone sex call, Queen Latifah assumes the role of adult phone entertainer and then says something just very racially charged and just icky. And I felt so embarrassed that Queen Latifah had to do that. And that like three white writers put that together. I just pray to God that that was like bad improv on her part and like not, I don't know. Yeah, that was, she's given simply nothing to do.

I'm like, she's, I don't know. But I mean, if you look at everyone in this movie, the Queen Latifah at this point is Oscar nominated. Jamie Foxx has an Oscar. No idea. Like, did he want a boat? We don't know. Who knows why anyone is here? Who else is there?

I guess. Oh, Jennifer Garner, Ashton Kutcher. I feel like some of these storylines aren't even worth like. I kind of feel like i have nothing to say about that right a lot of my comments are just sort of broader in the sense that like for example the way class is handled in this movie every character seems to be middle class upper middle class yeah there's no romance shown between two poor people. That's another thing that's rarely seen in movies in general. Or if there is a poor person who falls

in love, it's almost always them getting with a rich person, a la Titanic, a la Pretty Woman. Stories like that. But very rarely do we see a romantic storyline between two characters who are poor and stay poor no that's just like that didn't even occur to me because we've covered so many movies like this where you're like yeah i would have been truly shocked if that had happened so the whole movie seems to take place like in West LA. Like, yeah, it's such a bummer. And then the other thing is like this. And I get that this is a movie about Valentine's Day, which centers on romantic love.

So it's going to be stories that focus on romantic love. But it's also a very narrow view of romantic love again like it would have been very shocking if a movie in 2010 would have included anything that wasn't you know a cis hetero monogamous love story but like i guess i just want to see more stories where there are romantic storylines between polyamorous people, kink stuff. Yeah, where were the furries? Where were the furries? Where are the people who are just kind of dating casually

and who just want a fling or a one night stand or friends with benefits? Like all of these stories are about people who are in very serious, committed relationships or like falling deeply in love and stuff like that. That was a thought that I had about the Jessica Biel biel yeah like these are all super monogamous relationships and i feel like there was basically no public discourse about anything other than monogamous relationships when this movie came out but it's like it is pretty bleak that like the way jessica biel's

character is acting which is like she's like ready for death's sweet embrace, is like a more plausible character than someone who's dating casually. Like it's just like really depressing that this person who doesn't exist is put there instead of someone who, you know, very much existed in 2010. Like it's, yeah. But this movie is basically like Hallmark propaganda. You know, it's like people don't buy Christmas ornaments for people they're casually dating. So that is useless to Gary's goal here. I don't know. I mean, yeah, it is like frustrating, but it's also like it's Valentineentine's day 2010 i don't know so i will say that this movie does appear to try to subvert some things all of these subversions are very surface level they go nowhere nothing very meaningful is said about any of these things. But I did find it, I guess, interesting that, for example, with the Ashton Kutcher, Jessica Alba storyline, it is the man who appears to be a hopeless romantic

who's gushing about love, and the woman who is the more stoic and not so obsessed with romance. Usually you see the opposite in movies, especially rom-coms. I felt that too, but that it was also like the way she was talking was so like weird. I wish she had just been like, I don't love you. Cause it seemed like that was the issue because it felt like the undertone of

what she was saying was like, I love my career. So I cannot be married. Right. But then he's like, no no you can be married and have a career which is really brave of him to say well feminist icon ashton kutcher right and he's wearing a pink shirt which is a 2010 signifier for male feminists but he's like well what do you mean you can have a job and be married to me but then she's sort of instead of saying i don't love you it's's like, no, I can't. You're like, oh, OK, well, whatever.

Best of luck to her with whatever her job is, because, of course, we don't know what it is. She's like, the first thing I thought about was my meeting at work. And you're like, not your meeting at work. My meeting at my work job. I half expected her to show up at Queen Latifah Industries, but that was not the way it went. For as little as we know about this character, I think it is pretty awesome that she has a last name, which is Clarkson. Morley Clarkson. Morley Clarkson.

Yes. Every rom-com name sounds like your mouth is full when you say it. Just full of marbles, yeah. Caramanahan. Carol Monaghan. Another subversion, I think, is the Shirley MacLaine, Hector Elizondo story where it's the woman who has the affair. I feel like it's more common to see a man cheating on his wife in movies. Yes. And also it's more common for a man to demand forgiveness and be immediately granted by the other character. Very true. So girls could do anything, including gaslight their spouse into forgiving them for

something pretty awful. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. Again, this movie does not have the purview to discuss or examine any of these things meaningfully, but it did show something which is the opposite of what you might expect yeah i think the last one would be a hyper masculine football player is gay and ready to play yeah that i felt like was a genuine attempt at a subversion and we also talked about the flip side of that of like the twist is he's gay happens several times in this movie i don't know this movie got nominated for a number of teen choice awards and razzies i wanted to single one out because i feel like the teen choice awards and the mtv movie awards and all of those there's always like a real datedness to not even the people nominated,

but to the awards themselves. I think that there should be, if there isn't already, there could be a whole like doctoral thesis written about the MTV award for best kiss where so many, I mean, I covered it in Lolita podcast where like a kiss from Lolita was nominated for best kiss at the MTV movie awards. Like there's just all sorts of shit. But the one that stood out to me is not a, I guess maybe I never watched the Teen Choice Awards.

I don't really know. But there is a award for choice movie colon hissy fit. This award was given out through 2018. It has since been discontinued, which is really brave. The Me Too movement, you know, it didn't do nothing. It killed Teen Choice Award for Choice Hissy Fit.

But I just wanted to shout out Jessica Biel was nominated. She did not win Choice Hissy Fit for a scene where she lays on floor. So I just, I don't know. That was such, and then there's of course Taylor Swift and Taylor Lautner were nominated for every kissing award there is and bravely they lost I'm pretty sure to Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson whoa I know double Taylor Lautner snub brutal I'm just

looking at who's won I mean I guess at least the hissy fit award is not just women who are nominated for it, which is sort of what I assumed. Oh, wow. Okay. So it's an inclusive, all genders can have a Hissy Fit at the Teen Choice Awards. I just want to see who she was up against. Okay. So Miley Cyrus actually won one choice Hissy Fit two years in a row. Congratulations to her. For what?

Hannah Montana stuff stuff she won for hannah montana the movie in 09 and then she won for the last song question mark in 2010 oh that's one of those i think it's a nicholas sparks adaptation that sounds right she's tied with madeline petch of riverdale for most hissy fit awards won. Okay. So that's exciting. I just wanted to shout out that baffling award. So yeah, Miley Cyrus won. Puff Daddy was also nominated for his hissy fit in Get Him to the Greek.

Giovanni Ribisi was nominated for his hissy fit in Avatar 1. Oh, yeah. And Vince Vaughn was nominated for his hissy fit in couples retreat wow so you know when it comes to that now defunct award i'm sure it was just an honor to be nominated i'll go through the remaining things on my what the fuck list sure we've touched on a few of them. The ones we haven't touched on the whole scene where that teen boy is naked in front of his girlfriend's mom and then runs out into the street while he's still naked. Sure. contact with that she plans to have sex today for the first time she tells her teacher she tells the family she babysits for people who don't necessarily need to know but also i'm glad that she feels open christian shaw gets to know christian shaw gets to also speaking of christian shaw don't disrespect her by putting her in the movie and only letting her have two lines. Also, Kathy Bates. Don't disrespect Kathy Bates like that. I see. I disagree. I think the less you're in this movie,

the more you are respected. Fair, fair. I think Shirley MacLaine is in this movie too much. She's too good to be in this movie as much. She is too good. what else let's see jennifer garner is an elementary school teacher she's teaching her young students about protons and electrons they are supposed to be fifth graders although some of them look like they're seven yeah and then there's also like a kid who knows about the saint valentine's day massacre in chicago which i was like who told him about that that's what a pretty cool either way i don't think kids start learning about atoms when they're in fifth grade i was learning about like nimbus clouds in science class so that's not tracking i was learning about valentine's Day and protons in the same class okay what else um during the little kid the little kid's name is Edison I think whatever

he plays a soccer game he's distracted because he's so freaking in love with Jennifer Garner and then the ref comes up to him to encourage him to keep playing not the coach but the ref that is not the ref's job. Oh, I didn't even notice that. I don't think the people who wrote this movie understand how a soccer game is played. Final thing, Anne Hathaway wants to be a poet. So she's working for a sports agent because she says she wants to learn the business as if working for a sports agent is going to help with her poetry career. She's a mess, you know? Oh, another line I liked,

call me Mr. Engaged. Sure. There's a moment, this is like an attempted, botched, really confusing joke. It's another offensive thing that happens at the Ashton Kutcher flower world. There's a woman with a baby in front of a nun in line for flowers. She needs to hand the baby to someone to hold flowers, question mark. The nun says, I will hold the baby. She says, you should know we're Jewish. And I was like, well, so we're gonna miss on that joke. And then and then it keeps going, though, because the nun is like, it's okay. God loves everyone or

something. And then the baby claps for the nun's tolerance. It's really weird. It's really bizarre. I also liked the scene. We mentioned this before, but I wrote down some of the lines, because Taylor Swift's line reads, bless her heart heart they're just not very good but that scene where she's in the elevator with Jennifer Garter and Taylor Swift is like I have to go to school I have a boyfriend I live here I hope to get a lot of valentines on valentine's day isn't this sweet that my boyfriend got me this bear I have to go to school school. She's just talking and talking and talking and it's like supposed to be a joke, but it also just feels like it was written by AI. This whole movie feels like it was maybe written by AI. The one compliment I will pay this movie is the movie

does take the time during the press conference where Eric Dane says i'm gay and i'm gonna play thank you for saying it of course the movie does take the time to cut away to a sign language interpreter who is signing during eric dane's speech that's i appreciated that because that rarely happens that's rarely shown on screen. You never see that. In movies. That's a good point. So I was like, wow. Not that that character ever comes back, like the sign interpreter.

I mean, but I do appreciate that, like, yeah, that that was just like a normalized part of the world. That's a good point. Yes. I also wanted to shout out the actor who plays Ronnie, who is like the love interest of Edison. She is now a very successful working actor. She was in one of my favorite movies to watch on a plane, Missing. Have you seen it? I love a computer movie.

I love a movie that happens on the computer. She's Storm Reid's best friend. Is that the John Cho and deborah messing is also their movie no zionist deborah messing is not in this movie this is the new one that came out last year where gabrielle union plays a mom who goes missing the first one is called searching this is missing it takes place in the searching universe my mistake i don't know why you would get confused but she's also she's also in a typical she was in never have I ever and she was in poker face okay okay I feel that I'm too old to watch all of those shows but there's no such thing as being too old for anything if like sure I guess

what I'm saying is I probably won't watch those shows, but it's nice. I feel like it's very rare that you see like a character actor with one scene who goes on to have, it seems like a pretty successful career. And she's like only in her early mid 20s. So shout out to her and her having Frank Zappa on her iPod or whatever. Yeah. Do you have anything else you'd like to say, Jamie? I'd like to say that I'm gay and I'm going to play, but that's all I have to say at this time.

I have an announcement. Just it's like the raw conviction with which he says the line is really awesome. And again, I really do think that's like it is a impactful like cool thing that that character is included and out and the even though it's unbelievably dated and messy that the movie is like supportive of him yeah and then there's just like that they wrote that line down and that's's awesome. So yeah, shout out to Eric Dane, a man whose face I just can never commit to memory. Yeah, the movies he's in this year in 2010 are Valentine's Day and Burlesque.

This is like a banner year for him being in some of the worst movies of our time. Just one last thing on his character. And admittedly, I did zero research on this. And I know really nothing about the nfl but oh since that movie came out i think a number of nfl players have come out as gay and i honestly again because i did no research don't know what the response to that was from the nfl from the general public i simply don't know but i know that this is a thing and maybe i'll research more about it but because i do not care anything about american football

i didn't bother i don't think you need to apologize for that that's fine yeah to the extent that it's like professional football is still unbelievably homophobic and anyone who does come out is even if they're accepted by the league are generally bombarded with hate speech from a lot of professional football fans so i'm reading here that um a player named carl nasib was the nfl's first openly gay player to play in a regular season game in 2021 so 11 years after this movie came out so i don't want to like not as mishandled as it is this plot point was a bit ahead of its time and i also wanted because i guess if we have gray's anatomy fans listening to this i truly haven't seen an episode sorry so apparently eric dane is mcsteamy to patrick dempsey's mcdreamy

so i'm sure that in 2010 people were like mcsteamy and mcdreamy and the same anyways i'm sure it's a great show i haven't watched it and i won't same but that is probably a very critical i'm sure that that is like what he was most famous for at this time was being he was four years deep on mcsteamy when he was in this movie so there you go there you go i have nothing else to say this movie as we mentioned does pass the bechdel test a few times for example when jennifer garner and j and Jessica Biel talk about the I hate Valentine's Day party. Yeah, but it quickly derails. Right. It's mostly very small exchanges that are part of larger conversations that don't pass the Bechdel test. Most exchanges in the movie are

about hetero love and attraction. It's a lot of men and women talking to each other it's a lot of women talking to other women about men but it's also men talking to each other about women such as when ashton kutcher and george lopez talk about like mushy romantic love right which you don't see very much in movies so i was like okay again would have been helpful if you got to see george lopez's relationship at all until all in silent montage right late in the movie but yeah it is i guess you do have like a lot of people in this movie that are hopeless romantics of all genders right or of the two genders that this movie recognizes uh right and then the same is true in the reverse where it's like you have although it's not quite in the same way where i feel like you don't unless there's so many people maybe i'm wrong about this

but i don't think that there's a woman in this movie who is like fuck love you get jessica being like i want love so badly that it's ruining my life and i'm laying on the floor which is quite different right i don't really get j get Jessica Biel's thing where it's like, I hate Valentine's Day so much, not for any institutional reasons. It's more because I'm so freaking lonely and pathetic. Yeah, it makes no sense. And OK. Oh, I forgot to mention this.

When Jennifer Garner is describing her friend who turns out to be Jessica Biel, she's describing her as neurotic and a hot mess. We're like, that's not a nice way to talk about your friend. I know. Yeah. I was like, wow. Do you guys like each other? Also, how do you guys know each other? How does anybody know each other in this movie?

They all go to the same Pilates studio or something like we don't we're not given the reason this movie takes place in space like i don't even know yeah i hope that the couple that got married at the indian restaurant sued jessica biel for making such a loud ass party about how much they hated love directly facing their wedding. Rude. So rude. Yeah. I don't know. It's a funny, bad movie.

I would watch this in a group. It feels ripe for a drinking game. I was just going to say, I would play a drinking game to this movie. Yeah. Absolutely. But yeah, it does technically pass the Bechdel test. I think it also passes between Anne Hathaway and Queen Latififah at some point but their conversation is so bizarre that you're like is this a meaningful exchange of dialogue does a meaningful exchange of dialogue exist in this

world hard not to say at all but what about our metric which is important our nipple scale where we rate the movie zero to five nipples based on examining the movie through an intersectional feminist lens i'm giving it as i already foreshadowed negative five nipples the end i'm gonna give it half of one nipple actually for attempting to include gay characters in 2010 even though they do arguably a not good job horrible job i feel like the fact that there was even an attempt that is is not openly hateful it's just laden with stereotypes but that's a very very small comfort but like i do think that that is something that most movies in 2010 had no interest in even attempting.

So true. There you go. There's that. And kind of yucky to everything else. Did I have fun watching it? Was I laughing? Yes. I mean, I was tee heeing quite a bit.

It's fun. It's fun to live in a world where George Lopez is always outside your door quoting Rumi. Sure. Why not? Sure. Yeah. So I'm going to have a half nipple and I'm going to give it to Megan Suri, who played Ronnie. Oh, nice. Nice. If I had to give anything to anyone, it would be Kathy Bates. Oh, yeah. God. But I have no nipples to give.

It felt like that was like community service for her or something like she like got a speeding ticket and then she had to be in Valentine's Day um yes that should be what famous actors have to do when they like do a parking violation yeah yeah I agree well listeners thank you so much for indulging us on this valentine's day yes it's true may your holiday be not as pee pee poo poo as this movie is yeah i honestly i wouldn't wish the fate of any of these characters on any of you you're welcome yeah wow and Wow. And yeah, Caitlin and I will probably, what, like drink at your house tonight. Yeah, true. Tradition's tradition, baby.

So thanks for listening. You can follow us on social media at Bechtelcast. You can subscribe to our Patreon, a.k.a. Matreon, where we are doing Wedding Webuary. So it's a couple wedding-related movies just to keep in theme with love. We love love, but do we? Go over there and check it out. It's five bucks a month and you also get access to our back catalog of over 150 episodes if you could believe it. It's a super fun community over there. We have fun over there. We sure do.

So yeah, check us out over there. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter. We still sometimes update sometimes. And stay tuned because we have some tour information coming out in the near future. We sure do. Okay, bye. Bye. The Bechdelcast is a production of iHeartMedia, hosted by Caitlin Durante and Jamie Loftus, produced by Sophie Lichterman, edited by Mo Laborde. Our theme song was composed by Mike Kaplan with vocals by Catherine Voskrosensky. Our logo and merch is designed by Jamie Loftus.

And a special thanks to Aristotle Acevedo. For more information about the podcast, please visit linktree.com. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks everywhere unearths the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself?

There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Curious about queer sexuality, cruising, and expanding your horizons?

Hit play on the sex-positive and deeply entertaining podcast, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. Join hosts Gabe Gonzalez and Chris Patterson Rosso as they explore queer sex, cruising, relationships and culture in the new iHeart podcast, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. Sniffy's Cruising Confessions will broaden minds and help you pursue your true goals.

You can listen to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions, sponsored by Gilead, now on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday.