The Besties - The 10 best games on Nintendo Switch Online [Resties]

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

On this episode of Resties, Plante and Frushtick countdown their top 10 games on Nintendo Switch Online. Of course, Chris has chosen a ridiculous #1. In the back half of the episode, they talk about the Outer Wilds DLC, Echoes of the Eye. Spoilers are limited to the first couple hours of the game and kept as vague as possible. Discussed on this episode: a metric ton of retro games, Outer Wilds, Death's Gambit Afterlife, Universal Paperclips, and Dune. Get the full list of games (and other stuff) discussed at www.besties.fan. Want more episodes? Join us at patreon.com/thebesties for three bonus episodes each month!

my what i was gonna do your thing my name is christopher thomas plant my name is ross fresh tick welcome to the resties a video game podcast about the best of the rest and sometimes games on the NES and this week also on the SNES. It's good, right? We're getting there. It doesn't feel like we're at... It doesn't feel like we're there yet. No, we're definitely not there yet.

We're definitely not there yet. If anything, I would say we're maybe moving in the wrong direction on the catchphrase thing. I know we're trying to grow into it, but things are not great. And that's fine. We're doing a constructive criticism situation. Terrible, terrible taglines. Is that constructive?

Yeah. I mean, it is destructive in that I know I need to tear it all down. Can I suggest a tagline or should we save it? I No, please, please. I would love to hear your tagline. Okay, my suggestion for the tagline is, welcome to the Rusties where the goods

are odd. What? Welcome to the Rusties where the goods are odd. Or I could lengthen that by saying where the oddsies, where the goods are odd. Are odd. Or I could lengthen that by saying, where the odds are good that the goods are odd. What? I don't under... What?

You know how people say the odds are good? I mean, I kinda, yeah. Hey, the odds are good that it's gonna rain one day. I get it. Like, the odds are good. And this is like, we talk about odd games. That are also good. That are also good. But we talk about, like, a lot of the games we talk about aren't that odd.

I mean, today we're talking about some odd stuff. Today we're talking about, like, the most popular games ever released. Which, hey, let's get into that. Here's what we're talking about today, everybody. We're talking about Nintendo Switch Online plus Expansion Pack. And we're not going to linger too long on the technical side of that, but we are going to share each of our top 10 favorite games. These are favorites.

These aren't the best. These are the ones we care most about that are available on Nintendo Switch Online. I want to be very clear about that. I don't want to get any angry tweets that are like, hey, Blank, I'm not going to spoil it for you because it's a good list. But Blank is not a top 10 game of all time. Or like Blank is, you know, in no way better than Link's Awakening. Don't worry. I know.

This is just, it's our faves. And we think that you're going to love them too. Yes. After that, we're going to talk about, and it's been a long time coming, Outer Wilds and its DLC, Echoes of the Eye. Wait, wait. And its DLC? I thought we were just talking about the DLC. Well, I mean, you kind of have to talk.

You didn't really give Outer Wilds much of a chance. So I just figured. Yeah, we'll talk about it. I don't want to talk about the main game as much. Yeah, we're not going to talk about the whole story. And we'll try to keep that as spoiler free as possible. I'd say the big spoilers that we will talk about will be stuff that you see. What do you think?

Like within the first hour or so? It's probably two or three hours it depends how smart you are yeah and the game is quite a bit longer than that um but again that's in the back half of the show you don't need to worry about spoilers uh just yet and then as always we will talk about what else we've been playing at the end of this show along with our weekly recommendation nintendo switch online plus expansion plaque expansion plaque i'm yeah the dentist version oh boy it's been a long week i've been traveling a lot anyway i've been playing nintendo switch online plus expansion pack while traveling and here's what it is it is nintendo

switch's online service which that's the boring part the exciting part is you get kind of a game pass netflix style access to a bunch of classic nes snes uh nintendo 64 now in sega genesis the latter two are part of this expansion pack uh is every game on any of those consoles no this is not your uh emulation you know somebody's micro s SD card full of everything ever. But the great thing about it is it just works on a Switch. Kind of. Sort of. We'll talk about that.

Yeah. So that is this week's episode. We can't wait to get into it in just a moment. Okay. So we should, do we want to like discuss like what people have to pay to get access to this stuff i mean do you want to do you want to catch people up on on the base because you don't remember offhand definitely not um here's here's the deal i think everyone was pretty excited about nintendo switch online when it was first announced because it added

two huge things that people really wanted. Thing A was cloud saving. When it was first revealed, it was like, okay, you get cloud saving, so if your Switch goes in the toilet, most of your saves are not lost forever. Doesn't include certain games like

Animal Crossing, but regardless. What also came in the pack in addition to the cloud saving was nes games snes games and was that it i think those two they were like they're like bonuses like oh you get this many like free in-game currency and right or or you would get access to like tetris 99 or pac-man 99 like there were a few exclusive games for it so that was pretty good and from a like actual cost standpoint it was not bad at all for an individual account uh for 12 months of access you got it was just $20 which is really not bad so that happened and now this week launched the expansion pack to that so you get everything that was included in that before in addition to as plant

mentioned earlier in the show and 64 games a certain selection and genesis games a certain selection and so that increases the monthly price so now it's for 12 months it's 50 which is a pretty significant jump 30 for the year um for getting those games. And I guess you're going to have to sort of ask yourself, how much do you love the Genesis and N64 games that are included and whether it's worth making that investment? And I think part of what we're about to do is sort of talk through some of our favorites. And I'll speak for myself, a lot of my favorites are not in that genesis and n64 collection take that for what you will there are a couple but predominantly uh i don't know i don't know that this is for everyone yeah well the other last thing that you get in that is you get the new

big animal crossing expansion oh that's true and but you don't get to keep the full expansion if you stop using the service i think you can keep some items that you unlocked um but again the fact that this is all as confusing as it is is is kind of part of the issue um will there be more games that they unlock in these services will there be more free big expansions i don't think anybody knows right now well i would say definitely games they've already said that they will be more n64 games coming uh they revealed a few of the majora's mask being one of them so definitely more games i would not necessarily expect a ton of like huge exclusives like the animal crossing dlc also coming to the expansion pack but who knows maybe

they really want to amp it up they need to make the argument that this is comparable to like game pass they really need to add a lot of value to it yeah i think that is definitely the case okay so for this this bit we might have different approaches to this is it a bit well it's a it's a segment. Oh, a segment. Okay, I thought you were going to do a bit. So I give a prompt to Frushik, which was pick the top 10 games that are,

or not top 10, his favorite 10 games that are available on Nintendo Switch Online plus expansion pack. Now, is that what you did? Or did you just pick 10 games? No, no, no. Yeah, it's more or less my favorites. Okay, okay, okay okay i would say it's pretty close yeah it's definitely not i mean there are some like well-known picks in here but it's definitely not just that there are some okay

yeah so do you do you want to kick things off then with your number 10 i didn't order them but sure i maybe I should have ordered them you gotta order them okay well I'll let you know my number 10 okay I'll order them while you do that

okay my number 10 is a game that people don't want us talking about anymore it's called The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past

and this is why I gave you a warning up top dear listener I can feel some of you rushing to the twitter.com to let me know, Zelda number 10, what else is ahead of it? How is this possible? You know, you can't have, you know, Super Mario Brothers 3 and Super Metroid just like back and forth over and over again until number 10. back and forth over and over again until number 10 i hear you as you will know if you've been listening closely to the show i came to legend of zelda a link to the past very late in life as is like six months ago exactly so while i love this game uh if i'm talking about my favorites

like the games that really mean a lot to me and kind of have shaped who I am as somebody who enjoys video games. It's just it's it has to be on the list, but it's, you know, it's the tail end. Yeah. So I will jump in and say it's my number one. I know we probably ruined the order by doing that, but you have already mentioned yours as number 10. This is my number one. This is the first game that i thought of when we were listing things to put on this list so i guess if there's crossover we should probably call it out and i'm now calling it out that this is my number one does that ruin some of the thrill well i mean i we'll see if like uh if we end up

giving away each other's number ones before the end of this i don't i don't think so i don't i'm sure your number one is some ridiculous sega nonsense wow let's see i don't want to let's not be too cocky here okay um okay so what's your number 10 number 10 is a terrible game that i only included because of the name. And that name is SCAT, Special Cybernetic Attack Team. Uh-huh. Now, I want you to imagine a world where somebody decides to name a game and they think SCAT,

also known as cat shit, is the thing to name that game. But here we are, and we have Scat, which is basically a Contra clone, but instead of running on the ground, you just, like, fly around on a jet pack. And it's bad, and it's not worth playing,

but it is called Scat, and I felt like I needed to include it just because of the boldness of the name. Did you think that maybe it is a reference to scatman or the scat cat isn't that the same person mc scat cat i'm the scat man is not mc scat cat yeah i don't know that's just wow i mean i i mean i know i knew the scat man and i've heard people talk about mc scat cat but i didn't know whether they were two different people. No,

they're definitely two different people. Okay. Confirm. What's your number nine? I just want to reflect on the fact that link to the past, Legend of Zelda link to the past and scat special cybernetic attack team have just gone head to head for the first time in history. Were there like just not other games that you liked?

Could you not fill out a 10? Was that the problem? problem no i really wanted to give it give attention to scat i think okay i think scat is too forgotten in our legacy and uh i just wanted to give it a nod at i appreciate that what's your number nine my number nine is a little game called Blaster Master on the NES. Oh. Blaster Master is a game where you're a little robot child who has a car, and you basically kind of zoom around these levels in your car, and then when you get to, like, little caves, you jump out of your car

and sort of explore those caves in top-down action sequences. If it sounds familiar, it's because there have been multiple sequels of Blaster Master that have come out in the last three or four years. A trilogy. A trilogy that's actually quite well-received, and I'd highly recommend it if you are a Blaster Master fan. The new trilogy is quite good.

But I love the original Blaster Master. I played it a ton on the NES when it first came out. Really kind of holds up just from like a game feel standpoint. Like it feels really good to move through the world. And a really fun concept of like, oh, you're really defenseless outside of your car. And then when you're in your car, you feel like a badass. Love it. Great game.

Yeah, this is my number seven Blaster Master. Probably could have snuck up a little higher now that I'm thinking about it, honestly. I adore this game. As a kid, I loved the idea of a game being more than just like a little dot on the screen that you move around. Yeah. It felt always like, I mean, it's silly to say,

but even in Mario, it's like you're kind of like an icon that you move around. And something about being able to get into a vehicle and that change in perspective between you being like human size stage and you're out in this big world in your vehicle. It felt transportive, which I know will sound very silly to people who are looking at it today um but when that was what was available to you wow i feel really old yeah suddenly um but yeah at the time i just i i really really like that game and yeah the trilogy is fantastic i think it concluded this year i haven't played the final one. Yeah, I haven't either. People should check it out. My number nine is a little game called Wrecking Crew.

Oh, yeah. I like Wrecking Crew. Did you play this? I did. Yeah. So for people who aren't familiar with it, you look like you're Mario and you are going up and down just like a 2d building and you are breaking brick walls and breaking down just like pieces of i guess like scaffolding when i was a kid this was one of the very first video games i came in contact with um i've probably played this game before i could talk and i thought

it was squeegee i thought you were like squeegeeing windows and it was a race to squeegee away brick walls um which makes no sense because it's called wrecking crew and they're brick walls uh and i believed this until it came out on the virtual console um it just was stuck in my head and i forever will love this game as the squeegee game and i know that i um have always had um just the wrong taste in things because i do remember as a little kid being like oh everybody else likes mario but if like you really liked mario you would like wrecking crew yeah um and people hated that it was not a not a cool topic of conversation yeah i i play a little bit embarrassed for me there right no no it never grabbed me as a game

but but i do know people that really enjoyed it so i i will say that um what's your number eight okay my number eight is starfox 64 now this is a game that is included in the expansion pack for the nintendo switch online and i think some of these games do a better job on the switch than others but i would i remember very distinctly getting starfox 64 for the first time because it was the very first game that i played and i think the first game ever correct me if i'm wrong please internet but i think it was the first game ever that had rumble that had like force feedback uh it came packed in with the game cart was the like expansion pack to your controller, you plugged into your controller and suddenly N64 games had rumble in them.

And it was a total mind fuck, like crazy to have that level of, um, I guess interaction with the game you were playing in a really good game. Like it's probably my favorite Star Fox game. Um, I really like, you know,

I think the graphics actually hold up, um, better than a lot of 3d games of that era because they use a lot of like solid blocks rather than you know a ton of textures um yeah i just really like it um but i would say the n6 the switch version of this game has some problems specifically on the control side um just like something that you'll immediately notice you can like turn your plane left and right uh kind of like tilting on its wing axis and for some reason to turn right it's the right bumper and to turn left it's the left trigger

and that is weird uh there are a lot of issues with the controls on the n64 ports for uh switch online i'm hoping they'll be addressed but uh yeah it feels like they didn't really test that at all and come up with like a more reasonable solve for that stuff so just you know kind of buyer beware but it is a dope game and uh it still looks quite good that's bizarre um my number eight is super mario brothers 2 the american version not the original japanese version that i think we talked about before that's way too difficult this is the uh the reskin of a originally not super mario brothers game it is a lot of fun you can play as mario you can play as luigi you can play as toad and uh princess peach and each of them have different

kind of movement abilities uh like princess peach effectively hovers i mean she is like the best character in this game yeah uh it also is one of the first games i played that had shadow versions of the world that you're in where you enter a door and you see in this case quite literally a silhouette of the world yeah i remember being pretty items and stuff pretty blown away by the fact that you could go into the shadow world at any time in the i mean you would need a potion to like create the door but like the idea that there was like a secret level behind every other part of the level kind of

blew my mind yeah so that was this is one of those games yeah people have really dismissed this game for a long time because it was followed up by Super Mario Brothers 3 and Super Mario World which are two

of the greatest video games of all time um but super mario brothers 2 is a legitimately enjoyable nintendo game that is not really like anything else that nintendo has made um and i don't know if it's a thing that i like feel like oh i wish they would make a sequel to this one. Because it's been so long. I don't even know what that would look like. I mean, that looks like Super Mario 3D World is the closest thing to that. Yeah, kind of. Minus a lot of the, I don't want to say puzzly stuff. But Super Mario Bros. 2 has a very slow pace.

Yeah, that's true. Which I think is a very slow pace. Yeah, that's true. Which, yeah, I think it's a little bit different. And then number seven is Blaster Master. So I won't dig into that anymore. What's your number seven? My number seven is Pilotwings on the Super Nintendo system. Pilotwings is a flight sim. It's like a weird simulator. If you've never played a pilot pilot wings game before there's really no other game series like it because the bulk of pilot wings

is like you completing like weird um flight simulation tasks so for example at a baseline hey you're in a plane, you need to take off from the runway, circle the runway, and then land in the plane. That is like a very simple Pilotwings task. But you also get things like, hey, you've got a jetpack on your back,

and you've got to sort of spring from these different platforms that are worth a certain number of points. Or you've got to skydive through a bunch of hoops and then open your parachute at the right time to slowly land on like moving platforms. And it all, the weirdest thing about pilot wings is that it all builds up to a like attack helicopter level.

If you pass all of the like flight training things, it ends with this weird attack helicopter level that always blew my mind. I just like the vibe of Pilotwings. It's like a very chill vibe for the most part, apart from the attack helicopter part. This is most typified by a game that's not currently available,

which is Pilotwings 64, where you can sort of like bounce around a mini version of the United States, which was dope but generally speaking I just liked the chill like music and yeah just like kind of

vibing out to it I never considered it like a game that I like intensely played but always enjoyed yeah I'm kind of surprised it never got you know real sequels after Pilotwings 64. I mean, it's gotten Pilotwings 64 and then there was a 3DS Pilotwings game as well. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I kind of feel like in a weird way, the Wii Sports, especially the Tropical Resort, whatever that was called. Yeah. Sequel kind of fall in the same zone as this. I'm not surprised they i guess i'm not surprised that they haven't made more of these because it's a hard thing to make um these days it's not like so novel like the wario game where games where each individual thing doesn't even have to be

that good because it's just about you know quantity um and the other stuff that nintendo makes is like very polished you know it's like here's one idea polished to the extreme so this notion of having a game that is like seven games or seven types of flight games feels like it would be antithetical to the way they design games right now. But maybe I'm overthinking it. Always. That's your MO. It is. It is. My number six, speaking of overthinking it, is Donkey Kong Country 2.

It's just a great game. That's on my list. I don't have a lot to say about it other than I played the bejesus out of this game. Okay, okay okay as a fan of donkey kong country 2 yes give me the full name without looking at it donkey kong country 2 diddy's return no what is it the full name of it for years as a child and really as an adult i was under the impression the full full name of Donkey Kong Country 2

was Donkey Kong Country 2, Diddy's Conquest. What? Wait. That can't be it. No, no, no. The full name is Diddy's Conquest because it's funny.

Diddy, wait, Diddy Kong's, no, the full name is Diddy Kong's Quest. Now I have to look it up. I don't even know if I'm getting this right. Diddy's Conquest. See, it's a pun because it's like Kong Quest. Yeah, Diddy's Kong Quest. It's a pun. But I never got that.

It took me way too long. I thought it was Diddy Kong's Quest for like forever. But it's Diddy's Kong Quest. Oh my gosh. And now everybody knows that. And it's a great game. And you don't play as Donkey Kong. You play as Diddy and what's the, with the ponytail?

What's her name? Anyway, she can float and it's great. Yeah. What number did you put that one at? Four. Okay. Okay. So what's your number six?

My number six is Punch-Out featuring Mr. Dream. This would be higher if it was the original Punch-Out with Mike Tyson, but it's not. I get it. They want to sort of disavow the fact that Mike Tyson was in a punch out game, but 99% of punch out featuring Mr. Dream is the original punch out. So I'll,

I will let it slide. Um, I love punch, punch out. I love totally decimating the first, like six people that you face in Punch-Out! because I know those patterns so, so well. And I think it came up recently when we were talking about Metroid,

the idea that there are these boss fights that like feel impossible, that you could never actually beat. But the more you learn them, they suddenly become easy because you just know them so well. And Punch-Out! is the best example of that. I also think Punch-Out is the best example of that. I also think Punch-Out is best played with save states because you can just save after you finish a match, and you don't have to worry about a giant password

that you used to enter every single time you wanted to kind of continue your game. So love Punch-Out, can't be missed, highly recommend it. And man, that pixel art is so good yeah also the we punch out underrated yeah the we punch out's pretty good too i don't love super punch out which was on the snes not my favorite there's also some unfortunate like race stuff in those punch out games which i you know what can i say it's it's bad but i don't like it but uh i did want to call attention to the fact that like just be warned it was it came out in the 80s it was a different time

yeah um uh what's your number five my number five is mario tennis on the n64 oh this is this holds up it's not on my list. But I played it yesterday. And I was impressed. How much this game holds up. I'm going to argue that Mario Tennis. Is the best multiplayer game. That is currently available.

On the Switch Online Expansion Pack. And keep in mind. That also on this list. Is Mario Kart 64. Which I know everyone loves Mario Kart. Everyone can't get enough. I love Mario Tennis.

It does not have the like randomness and the like rubber banding that Mario Kart games have. You don't have to worry about like a blue shell totally fucking you over. It is just pure tennis. And it's also like not newer Marioio tennis games have like power shots and ultimate meters and there's a lot to keep track of and here this is just like pure fucking tennis action with luigi mario like they hate each other and they want to just like shoot balls at each other with the rackets oh my god so much anger if you want like a good like having people over for a beer game mario tennis can't be

beat you can play with four players is great it it can be beat it's called virtua tennis and it is a perfect it's virtual tennis not on this unfortunately it's nearly impossible to play these days so i guess in that way you're right yeah um my number five uh another game that is great to play with friends streets of rage 2 one of the singular soundtracks uh in video games and just a perfect beat them up uh it is so simple and yet still holds up. Partly because it understands that the appeal of the genre for many people, not everybody, is just going from point A to point B to point C to point D and seeing things and hearing cool music and having something to occupy a very small part of your noggin while you hang out with friends yeah um it is a hangout game you can play it alone i strongly don't recommend it uh is this the one with the kangaroo no that's number three but number three also had this is the one that introduces introduces the uh young dude in rollerblades oh yes yes uh what is your number four i think i already said my number four and if i'm not if it sounds like i'm not sure it's because i made up

most of the numbers as your number four was donkey kong country too that that sounds right. Yes. And my number four is Super Mario World. And it's probably the best 2D Mario game. Unless you catch me on a day where I say that new Super Mario Brothers Wii U Deluxe is. We might have some competition coming up. Did Super Mario World make your list? Very nearly. uh did did super mario world make your list very nearly but i decided to go in a different direction because there is a game a mario game that i like more than super mario world dr mario that is not no okay what's your number three uh my number three is super mario world 2

yoshi's island wow holy shit this game is super good fresh i've never played it oh my god chris i know i know chris i was the second genesis kid here here's i think like this came up recently we were talking about uh yoshi's island but super mario world 2 yoshi's Island is the only, in my opinion, I realize this is heavily subjective, but the only good, really good Yoshi game, Yoshi first game in the Yoshi canon. After Super Mario World 2, they made a bunch of Yoshi games. Yoshi's Story was the next one, which is included in the expansion pack. Not as good by any stretch. Super Mario World 2 is spectacular um you play as yoshi

who is tasked with guarding a very young baby mario who has been lost on yoshi's island and your quest is to go rescue luigi who has been kidnapped by kamek. And what plays out is just this really creative platforming game mixed with this target mechanic that's really clever. Controls feel amazing. The art is amazing. It's all 2D, hand-drawn, but has kind of like a crayon style to it. The music's amazing. It is spectacular.

It's really definitely one of the best if not the best uh super mario game ever made um i'm gonna try it for you go cool thanks like that's i feel like it's the least i can do you know after i mean hey it's not your number one look if you're gonna play that you can play that or scat it's really up to you okay i'll play that one okay i'm not gonna play scat i'm gonna be very honest with you in the same way that you were like tales of arise you know i'll google a video of it i'll watch some scat no i will watch the i will watch footage of the game scat and that oh jesus uh okay here's my number three my one two and three i i maybe you can relate to this i feel like you could switch these up any yeah i feel the same way you know like they they kind of are i mean we know it's genesis nonsense you could skip ahead

to that part are you ready for this not a single sig Genesis game wow I know uh Streets of Rage I think is the only one that made it they don't have a great Sega Genesis collection because they don't have many EA games yeah and like that's yeah you can't make Gretzky's head bleed unfortunately what you know from NHL was it 94 where you can make Gretzky's head bleed? Yes, yes. Man, there's so many good games. Anyway, my number three today is Sin and Punishment. Oh, no. Yes. This game rules.

Are you kidding me? Part of this is I never played it when I was a kid, and I played it recently, and the controls are so bad on the Switch that it totally tainted the experience. No. I think they're pretty okay. No, they're bad.

Maybe you just need to get good? Okay, so here's what it is. Defend it, please. Think like anime res is kind of how I would describe it. Sure. Right? For the seven people that played res. Hey. It's like Star Fox, but you're on the ground. How I would describe it. Sure. Right. So the seven people, people that played res, Hey,

it's, it's like Star Fox, but you're on the ground. Yeah. That's another good way of putting it. You're just perpetually moving forward and you aim a reticule around the world. And then you move your character around to dodge enemies.

But the real reason that this game is fantastic is it is stunning. It is, I think the most beautiful Nintendo 64 game that exists, which can kind of be a faint praise because it's not like there are a lot of pretty games on that system, but what it looks like now in 2021, if you, if you play it for the first time,

again, you have to recognize came out in the Nintendo 64. one if you if you play it for the first time again you have to recognize came out in the nintendo 64 it looks like somebody took a game that is modern today and they d made it for the nintendo 64 so they had to make a lot of decisions and tweaks to uh emphasizing the art direction to make it look otherworldly and um just big and loud and colorful and very cinematic um it it it is gorgeous this game um and i i i don't know how many listeners we have who are like in high school because i'm really trying to imagine the feeling of hearing me talk about a game that looks like this and then playing it for the first time and being like oh my gosh you're talking about stick figures i mean i i played it and i that's how i feel i have no affinity for how it used to look but now how it looks to me is not visually great personally it's okay you can i don't that's okay we all have different tastes

yeah no that's that's right anyway it's a great game uh you can't let me just say this you can't run to the right and shoot at the same time on the switch yeah you can you can't hold down the fire trigger and run to the right i I tried it. It did not work. I'm. Hmm. Multiple people have said that for what it's worth. I'm not like totally out of, out of base.

Okay. Well, here's, here's the other thing about the game. You're, you might be thinking what, what is sin and punishment? It did not come to the States originally. Yeah.

Um, it got a virtual console release on the original wii and there is a sequel to it actually on the original wii that is also very very very good um but now kind of difficult to find uh what is your number two uh My number two is Super Metroid. That makes sense. I'm kind of surprised that's not your number one. Yeah, so here's the thing about Super Metroid. Super Metroid is a game that I, for a very, very, very long time,

was my number one game of all time. It's still obviously very, very high on my list. I absolutely adore Super Metroid. I did replay it recently for the first time in probably five years it's spectacular there is like a two hour span in the middle of the game if you've played the game before it involves like going into the water water area gets pretty bad for like one to two hours of you kind of stumbling around trying to figure out where to go once you get past that it's back to being fantastic but i do think super metroid has some pacing issues also playing it now is a little bit tough if only because it does not run great in

certain chunks it like really like struggles to run um for whatever reason the engine just like couldn't quite handle all the pixels um it looked gorgeous when it came out and and honestly the game still looks gorgeous uh it's just kind of a drag that it like kind of hitches uh in certain spots is that on the switch or is that on just on everything if you put even on the switch version it sort of recreates that level of lag probably because they designed it that way um which is interesting but yeah i don't know it it's very difficult especially playing metroid dread which is very much an evolution of that to go back and play super metroid would be really tough i'd be curious to know what you thought

chris plan i know you've never really played it um to go back and like actually try to get through it um it's great it does one thing that metroid dread does not do as well that i wish it did there are a lot of chunks in super metroid that are just atmospheric that are just like vibe chunks that are not like oh here's a block you can break and here's a whatever secret and like in the way that dread every single room of dread from like florida ceiling is filled with that stuff there are rooms and areas where super metroid is just like scene setting and i do kind of wish that it had more of that uh in dread but really i mean music wise spectacular in super metroid uh the story which is told in like fewer words than dread story is great um yeah i i just i really love

super metroid it's great yeah what you you talk about with the vibe that sounds for me like what the art in sin and punishment is for you and i think that kind of gets it why i've always had trouble getting into it as an adult is i don't feel much of a vibe at all when i play that game i i'm honestly i probably feel more of a vibe playing the s or the nes version of metroid just because it's so weird and like yeah i think the vibe your parts do happen later i don't think they happen in the first two hours which is kind of dry it's actually a retread the first two hours of like a lot of the areas that you were in in metroid one i think once you get to the underwater area which i mentioned and also the um the ghost ship it starts becoming

a little more vibey but i do it i know what you mean i i just need to get through it with a guide and yeah you know be stubborn um okay my number two uh i'll keep it quick because i i know we have other things to talk about my number two is river city ransom um did you play this as a kid i didn't play as a kid but i played it more recently and it is definitely one of the most if not the most modern feeling nes games yeah i mean the comparison is grand theft auto of the nes era it's a side scrolling um life crime sim in which you're a high schooler and you go around and beat people up uh double dragon style and you can grind and get better items and make yourself stronger and i don't know it all seems very simple today in the same way that like playing like drug wars

on a graph and calculator seemed simple when we were in school um but at the time it it felt like just super immersive um and it was set in japan so that also just felt cool i actually don't know if technically the uh river city ransom is supposed to be japan i think they tried to localize it, but it's like only thinly done. But it's worth checking out. It's definitely one of those games that I'm glad is on a service like this because you can check it out for effectively free. It's already there if you're a subscriber.

And it's worth that. There's also some newer versions of it. I mean, this series in Japan is just humongous. They made gobs and gobs and gobs of these games and spin-offs. But there are also modern versions that you could try. Some on Switch if you wanted to check it out. And then my number one. Well, actually, do you want to talk about Legend of Zelda really quick?

Do you have anything else to say before I do my number one? No. I i mean we've talked at length on besties prime as well about link to the past it's phenomenal it's so fucking good play it game uh my number one i'm honestly a little surprised it wasn't anywhere on your list kirby's dream course uh-huh. Kirby's Dream Course is a masterpiece. Kirby's Dream Course rules so much. Before Nintendo 64 era

with like Goldeneye and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Kirby's Dream Course ate the most time amongst me and my friends. This game is a golfing game where you golf Kirby, quite literally just it, the creature. You hurl him into the air, and you can put spin on him. You can curve the shots.

It goes up and down hills. There are obstacles on each of the course. And your goal is to hit a variety of different enemies. And once you've cleared the course of enemies, the final one turns into a hole and you sink yourself in the hole. You want to do this in as few strokes as possible. And the enemies, when you hit them, you get their powers. So one could be a rock that, you know, glues you to the ground. Or another one is like a speedy wheel that will shoot you really fast across the course.

And those abilities have like goods and bads to them. You know, that speedy wheel can get you across a sand trap, but it could also like throw you off the course. This game is so punishing. I forgot about that part. And like you said, with a punch out, you know, you have that muscle memory, so you can go back and play it. I still have some of that muscle memory. So I think it's still enjoyable to me. I really don't know how this game holds up for people who are not going to be putting hours and hours and hours into it to master its idiosyncrasies. Because it's just, yeah, it's just unforgiving. But that said, it is fantastic. The second it came out on the service,

I was ecstatic. It is one of my favorite games to just have in my pocket whenever I want to pick at something for fun and I really hope that everybody listens gives this game a shot because it's a delight I have never played this game what?

are you kidding? here's what I want to say I don't generally love Kirby games for'm gonna say i don't generally love kirby games for the same reason i don't super love yoshi games is that i think they kind of tend to be more for kids not super challenging i like the like graphics of them but the actual gameplay not great i realize this is a very different game i had no idea it was like a golf game i thought it was like a racing game for some reason. Oh my, you didn't even know what type of game it was?

What's the one where he's like going down the tube? Oh my gosh. I played Kirby's Tilt and Tumble. Is it like that? No, it's not anything like that. Can you do me a favor? Everybody's listening. You can join us on this trip.

Play this game before the next resties okay and then you can let me know if i'm right this is the number one game on my personal favorite list okay i'll play it i appreciate it um that's it we did. We did our top tens. Yeah. Oh, boy. You know what? I think we need a break, and then we can talk about some Outer Wilds echoes of the eye. Okay, so people will remember, probably the last Resties, you might remember that there was some discussion as to, like, whether we were going to talk about Outer Wilds or not. I pushed against Plant to say that I didn were going to talk about Outer Wilds or not, I pushed against Plant to say that I

didn't want to talk about it because I wanted to still try to play the Outer Wilds DLC, keeping in mind that I have never, and really still never, have played through the main game of Outer Wilds, mostly because of my motion sickness. I tried playing it, it always made

me sick. So I was very hesitant to try this dlc but people were so glowing about it plant inclusive that i wanted to really give it another shot and surprise surprise i have gone and beaten this dlc before playing any significant amount of the main game um you might wonder why i'm sorry before i beat the dlc yeah before plant beat the dlc i was so taken by it um apparently i found like the perfect perfect combination of a somewhat small laptop screen combined with a very very well-lit room and me sitting pretty far back from the laptop screen and that was enough to let me play through it without getting sick.

And yeah, it worked. I was able to beat the whole thing. It is spectacular. So in terms of the spoilers, here are the parameters that I will try to set with also not spoiling anything. We're going to talk about the thing that you go and do in this game, which itself could be seen as a spoiler.

We're going to talk about the worlds, how it handles worlds in this game. Outer Wilds original has multiple worlds. This game has an approach to that. We're going to talk about that. We are not going to talk about the final story beats. We're not going to talk about the ending. I don't think we're going to even talk about the middle story beats.

I think there's enough to talk about just in the first like three hours of gameplay. Yes, yeah. I think the only thing that might be a little bit in there, you know, we'll flag it when we get to it. If there's any concerns, we'll give you plenty of time

to hit that eject button. Yeah. For people that like don't know outer wilds is there like a light speed like pitch for this game it's such a hard thing to wrap your head around i can do that so you are um the idea is it's a open solar system simulator right you are a alien i guess just a creature living on this planet and the planet has a long history of um astronauts of you know navigating space searching for new worlds and new things and there is a culture that came before you that seems to have been brilliant and quite successful in building homes in the different corners of the solar system. And the big mystery is what happened to them. And also every, I don't know, 20 some minutes, the sun goes, I believe, supernova and destroys everything.

And then you wake up and have to do it all over again. So there is a time limit to how much you can do. So you're constantly learning information and then being obliterated and then taking another shot at learning a little bit more to ultimately solve this mystery in one final run. Yeah, so the key is basically whereas like in a metroidvania you might get a double jump and that lets you access new areas here you're just getting information so you might learn oh there's a shortcut or a secret little

cave here now that i know that i can now go deeper into an area in much quicker time, which means I can use those 22 minutes in a more effective fashion. Nick Suttner of the Eggplant podcast called this a Metroid brain-ya, which I really, really liked and I wanted to give him credit. So well done, Nick, for naming that. That's good. That's good. So Echoes of the Eye is the expansion. And the big question ahead of this expansion coming out was how?

The clockwork universe of the original game is so complete and every corner of it has a purpose. How could you create an expansion to this thing that was, you know, seemingly airtight? And do you want to explain how that part works? Sure. seemingly airtight and do you want to explain how that part works since that was i guess we're going to start this is where we start getting into more spoiler territory but we will um not go too far um basically the entire dlc is self-contained within a ship that is cloaked within the solar system um finding the ship is like part of a puzzle to like that will take you probably a good hour

figuring that out. And then once you're in the ship itself, everything that takes place within DLC is in that ship. So whereas in the main game, you're kind of jumping from planet to planet is my understanding. Here, you are just going to the ship, getting to the ship.

Once you find it, it takes like 30 seconds of autopilot. Like there's no struggle getting there once you found it. And then once you're inside, it is really a remarkable universe, a little like world that they've created inside this ship. Because on the outside, it looks like kind of this metal terrifying monstrosity on the inside it basically looks like the louisiana bayou with um kind of a ring world it's a ring world it's like halo so if you look up you can see the world arching back over you yeah um but the but the theming of this ring world whereas in halo it's sort of just like generic, whatever, nature, I guess. Here, it's like a bayou.

So there's a river that runs the entire loop. And there are like kind of like trees, like mangrove style trees and cabins alongside the river. And but all the events are kind of taking place on this loop okay so like you mentioned there's this river that goes you know does the full circuit from where you start in the loop the one i guess big important detail here is the as the sun explodes in the main game uh here that river is dammed and that is like what's powering i guess this world and at a certain point that dam breaks yeah it's not alongside the sun exploding because that would reset the game it's it's like 15 or so minutes into the loop the dam explodes yes and that

further changes this entire world so some buildings get completely destroyed or the water rises so that maybe there are access points to places that you couldn't go before. So in that way, so now there's the solar system, there's the ship, so the world within the world. Then there is the new version of that world within the world, post-flooding. And then what I love about the game is it keeps giving you new worlds within this space in interesting ways to keep exploring so you will think that you having explored the entire um ring world you know gone from point a to point b um and doing that over the course of a few loops that you'll have seen almost everything there is to see and then you'll realize that you are maybe a third of the way through the game yeah even like simple stuff like example, like when you first get into this Ringworld loop, there is a part of the river that I passed probably 30 times and never, it's not marked, it's not indicated, you know, in game design, if it's an area that you should go in, usually it's lit well or some, there's some indication. But here there's nothing there and it required finding a little clue that was like, hey, go to this spot on the river and you will find something there.

And just that level of like nested world building is so amazing to me, but it goes far further than that. I don't wanna go beyond that, but really there is just so much hidden within this i would say it probably took me 15 or so hours to beat the whole thing and i was just so taken by it to the point where like the second i beat it i was like man i really desperately want to try again at the main game because i think they just totally mastered this design and i can't wait to see what this team does next

because they have just, like no one else is making games quite like this. I think there are games that are inspired by this. I think Deathloop pulls some from the idea behind Outer Wilds, but no game goes to this extent to really trust the player in sort of uncovering this world themselves yeah and not

just trust the player to like figure it out but trust that they will have fun figuring it out like the fun of the game can be the journey and it doesn't have to be about you like you know going and killing everything on alien planet yeah there is a there is a part of me i would just say that i almost think the dlc might be more welcoming to some extent once you're there at least because you know everything that you need to do is in front is in this area whereas when I was playing the

main game it can be a little overwhelming where it's like oh there's six planets which planet do I go to and where on the planet do I land and see I'll say the I'd say the opposite because in the main game quite literally there are however many planets and you know that you need to go there sure in the dlc everything that you need to do is quite literally not in front of you yeah that's fair so yeah and like that is

a thing that i i would uh say to folks who are who play it the first third or so i found it very welcoming even if there's like a tricky spot now and then the back half i guess that's not how fractions work is uh quite a bit trickier it's quite a bit scarier. It does have a, like, not scary filter option in there as a feature, which you might want. And I would just say don't be afraid to use guides. And also, if you're holding a very special lamp, maybe take a break at the fire. at the fire because holy moly did i waste at least an hour not figuring out that you could do that and what that does for you um anything any other final thoughts on it before no i mean it's really it's really a standout game for me it's definitely in my game of the year list um i'm just super excited to try the main game now because I am so

in that I feel like I know the language now the design language that they build the game with is really amazing so yeah we'll be talking about it more at the besties bestie bracket

this is 100% the game that will be in that that final conversation okay what else are we playing fresh what else are you playing right now i mean i'm trying to think of games that like i wouldn't necessarily i know we're not talking about on on the main show or for example um just as an example like i know we're talking about uh guardians of the galaxy and inscription on this coming episode of the besties i know we're both pretty in love with both of those games but um a game that we aren't planning on talking about that i really wasn't keeping an eye on until recently it's called uh death's gambit afterlife uh it is a 2d souls like that came out um i think

the original release was a couple years ago and now afterlife is sort of an expansion pack slash director's cut if you will and when the game first came out a lot of people praised it but also said hey it has a lot of technical issues and bugs and stuff like that afterlife i think has addressed most if not all of those issues and it just feels and looks amazing um incredible 2d art um this really cool something that i don't see a lot in 2d uh roguelikes a really wide frame of view so in this case like the character is pretty small so you can really take in the scale of this world and feel like you're kind of lost in it incredibly tight controls runs at 60 frames a second on switch which is a total rarity

feels great i mean the story doesn't mean anything to me at all but if you want to get lost in a world and you just beat metroid dread and you're looking for something else, Death's Gambit Afterlife is really, really good. And my recommendation is a game called Universal Paperclips, which our friends at Into the Aether reminded me exists. Still, there is an update for the iOS app version of it. still there is an update for the ios app version of it um it is a clicker game where you are uh artificial intelligence tasked with nothing beyond creating uh paperclips uh at all cost and the game just goes from there about how that would play out. It is a effectively a text game, like black text on a white screen. But it is, I guess, a warning, you can play it on your browser. If you play it on your phone, be sure to do like when you're hanging out at your desk, and you have the battery charger

plugged in, because it is doing some heavy calculating as it gets into some very large numbers and from what i could tell unless i was had you know i don't know maybe my maps were hurting my phone but my battery life depleted fast when playing this game um it it's made by frank lance who um i worked for at the NYU Game Center. He runs that program. And I think it is the smartest. I'm not saying this just because I think Frank's smart, but it is the smartest clicker game out there. It is very much using the genre to say something about, I don't know, how mindless activities

can have nefarious ends. And I'll say that. Also, if you do play it and you like it, there is a great piece about it on Polygon.com, which I'll be sure to link on the Besties pod on Twitter. Real quick, our recommendation of the week. I really recommend that everybody read all of the Marvels. It is by Douglas Wolk. He read

all of the Marvel comics, basically all of them, and then wrote about it. But really, it's just a fantastic work of criticism about why we love metaverses. Well, metaverses isn't right. I don't want to say that.

I don't know. why we love all of these these uh pieces of entertainment that are interconnected and influence each other uh often despite their very glaring flaws um and what that means uh one thing that i think you should know before you read it he encourages you not to do what he did, which I think means that you can trust him because reading all the Marvel comic books would just be an absolute slog. Fresh, I know that you're going to recommend something. So very good. My recommendation is Dune.

I feel like people, a lot of the people listening have probably watched Dune either in theaters or on HBO Max. But if you haven't yet, it is streaming for the next month, I think until the end of November on HBO Max. Or again, you can see it in a theater if that is your prerogative. Wow. I am a huge fan of Denis Villeneuve.

I'm going to butcher the name. Villeneuve. Just Villeneuve. Yeah, Villeneuve. Thank you going to butcher the name. Villeneuve. Do you do it, Plant? Just Villeneuve. Yeah, Villeneuve. Thank you. Huge fan of his work. He did the Blade Runner follow-up. He did Arrival, which is one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time.

He's just a spectacular visual director, and he is tackling one of the most well-known sci-fi books of all time, which is Dune. Clearly, he's a huge, huge fan of the source material. I think this was a dream of his to make this movie. I have no affinity for Dune. Didn't know the story. I knew there was a desert. I knew there were sandworms.

That was literally the extent of my knowledge about dune so i went in um pretty apprehensive because i was worried that i would just be bored to tears but uh definitely not the case um it is a visually stunning movie but also a movie that i think is very smartly crafted in welcoming newcomers to a world that is extremely complicated, but they are very smart in terms of what information they convey and when they convey it and how they convey it to the point where within 15 minutes, I felt like I had a really, really good grasp of what was going on. Even if you don't care about whatever interstellar politics

and Dukes and various other things, you can just sit there and just vibe on how goddamn good this movie looks um just a gorgeous movie i've been told a plant you saw in a theater right i've been told that the audio design is just through the roof amazing it's so loud and good yeah i saw a blade runner in the theater and was also really blown away by his audio design um i i again had to see it at home there's a baby here so didn't quite get to crank it as much as i wanted to but man the only caveat i would say people going in especially people that aren't reading a lot about dune should really know this is a part one they've announced that they are doing a part two that's good news because part one very much does not end in a place where a

normal movie would end it just sort of ends it ends like a tv episode yeah it ends like a tv episode which is like kind of an act break um more than like an actual like climax and ending so just keep that in mind um you're gonna leave wanting more uh and good news because there is more coming currently planned for the end of uh 2023 hey before we wrap up we have some of your questions and we're gonna answer them these are some shorties and uh you know i going to direct them to you, Fresh. This one's from Matt. I loved the first Outer Wilds, but I very much do not enjoy stealth mechanics in games. I hit a wall when you get to those parts and cannot make progress.

Is it worth pushing through? Should I get a guide? Please help me. The answer to that question is absolutely you should get a guide. The stealth sequences in the Outer Wilds DLC are way, way shorter than you think they are. But if you get lost easily or you get creeped out easily, I could easily see those sequences taking a very long time. They are not long if you know where to go.

Just use a guide. You won't regret it. Also, there is the accessibility feature in the settings to tone down those sequences. All it really does is make the stealth sequences easier. I don't want to say more than that, but they become dramatically easier if you turn that on. I used it, didn't regret it for a second.

Highly recommend. Oh, I didn't know. Now I've got to turn that on. Yeah, just turn it on. It's way easier. Okay. This is from Daniel. Nintendo made official classic versions of the NES and SNES.

He's talking about the standalone mini consoles. Do you think Nintendo 64 features that have been added to Nintendo Switch Online are indicative or disprove any future nintendo 64 classic yeah i assume by features they probably mean um the online features because you can play some of these games online yeah that's i don't know what else was added i mean i guess the textures and stuff are higher res also maybe just their mere existence that you know know, Nintendo 64 games are on Switch Online. Like, do you need a Nintendo 64 Classic? This, to me, tells me that they're not making one because if they were making one, they would release that first and not do that.

Yeah. That's fine with me because, as it might be clear, even though there are a couple games on N64 I really, really like, I don't love the console. It's just not one of my favorite consoles. So I'm fine with them not making it. I don't think it's coming. I could be wrong, but that's my guess.

Yeah, I don't think it's coming either. I think the controllers are probably one of the biggest problems with that is that the original Nintendo 64 controllers are bizarre. And I imagine that Nintendo is not in a rush to make more of those uh on mass i know that you can get special editions for a nintendo switch online but that is obviously different than stocking uh walmart's and targets across the country or world

with with those monstrosities um along with like a million other reasons that they would not do it. And then one last question. This is from Becca. Is the price jump for the online expansion worth it? Do I actually want them to put Goldeneye on it, or am I just nostalgic? Okay, we should say this right here. Goldeneye is never going to get added to this thing.

Probably not. I think that's fair to say. The licensing limitations on Goldeneye are steep enough that I would be very surprised if it ever gets added. It might happen, I guess. Also, if it came to Switch, I bet they would just sell it. Yeah.

They could get that worked out with the Broccoli Estate, and now I guess Amazon and Microsoft. At that point worked out with like the Broccoli Estate and now I guess Amazon and Microsoft. Like at that point. Did you say the Broccoli Estate? Yeah. Isn't that, that's who controls the James Bond. They're named Broccoli?

Broccoli. Like the vegetable? Yeah. The Broccoli Estate. Isn't that right? That doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure that's right. Okay.

James Bond, Broccoli. I'm typing this into Google. Yeah. James Bond, Broccoli. I'm typing this into Google. Yeah, James Bond, Broccoli. Albert R. Broccoli. Okay. I love it. Yeah, I nailed it. Nailed it.

Wow. Man, I'm pretty smart. What about is the price jump too much? I mean, that seems like it's like a... That's a you question. Yeah. That's tough. Right now, that seems like it's like a... That's a you question. Yeah. That's tough. Right now, it seems...

Here's what I'll say. If it was N64 games and Genesis games and a bunch of GBA games, totally worth it. In a heartbeat, I would get that. GBA could not be stopped and I just want it on every platform. I love the Game Boy Advance.

It's not that. So for me, I think it's a little steep for you it's up to you yeah i think if i knew that i really cared about the animal crossing dlc but then also didn't you just buy it i want to have it forever yeah that's that's like the problem i think it's 15 bucks 20 bucks it's not that expensive. Yeah, it's kind of a hard sell. You know, I think I would say it's really worth it if you, like, if I were in a dorm and this was just like a way for me to have some Nintendo 64 multiplayer games to play forever. This is such a not real scenario. Yeah, because if you're in a dorm, you have no affinity for N64.

Exactly. They're like, why would I do that? I can just play Mario Kart 8. I can play all better versions of these games. That's a really good point. Okay, well, that's the questions. What else do we got from you, Fresh, before we wrap up? Oh, I did want to thank everyone.

I'm sorry, I didn't pull names. But I did really want to thank everyone for writing reviews,, I'm sorry. I didn't pull names, but I did really want to thank everyone for a writing review, specifically calling out the resties in Apple podcasts. Um, uh, you're all awesome. I will make a double list next time and call them all out. Uh,

but thank you. Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I need to talk about the games we talked about. We talked about so many games today.

You know what I think we should do just for the end? Can you, from 10 to 1, just give a list of your top 10? No, because I told you I made up the order when we were going. Are you for real? More or less, I made up the order while we were going. Just share the games that you mentioned real quick. Okay, really quick. SCAT, Special Cybernetic Attack.

We remember that was number 10. That was 10. Star Fox 64, Mario Tennis on N64, Donkey Kong Country, Diddy's Conquest, Blaster Master, Punch Out featuring Mr. Dream, Pilotwings, Super Mario World 2, Yoshi's Island, Super Metroid, Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past. So you definitely knew your top three, but everything else... When I was making the list, I put the obvious ones at the top. So that's why it's kind of in order. Okay, and then for me, it is, starting from 10, The Legend of Zelda, A Link to the Past, Wrecking Crew,

Super Mario Bros. 2, Blaster Master, Donkey Kong Country 2, Streets of Rage 2, Super Mario World, Sin and Punishment, River City Ransom, Kirby's Dream Course. The last of which all of us are going to play the second that this podcast ends. You're probably already playing it. You probably didn't even wait. And I respect that. And we are going to have a nice chat about it in in two weeks yeah uh and then we talked about outer wilds and uh it mostly it's expansion

echoes of the eye um which is available wherever you can play outer wilds and that's is that it oh yeah and then we talked about Universal Paperclips. Yep. Death's Gambit Afterlife. I recommended All of the Marvels by Douglas Wolk. You recommended Dune by Denise Villeneuve. And that's it. That's the show. Do we even know what we're doing next time? No.

It's going to be in two weeks. I'm sure there will be. We might be talking about Writer's Republic next week. Next Resties, I should weeks. I'm sure there will be. We might be talking about Riders Republic next week. Next Resties, I should say. I sure hope we are. I think that's what we're talking about. I know that there are some people following the Besties pod not in love with it yet.

I'm here to help change your mind. It is a great game. I'm pumped. We did it. That's it for the resties you can follow us on twitter at the besties pod always helps if you leave

reviews especially on apple podcast and thank you for joining us it is sincerely a delight that you have you know come along for this bizarre ride during the busiest game season of the year.

So that's it for the resties. A video game podcast about the best of the rest in some game on the NES and also the SNES and the Nintendo 64. The goods are odd. No, the goods are odd and the odds are good when you listen to the besties. Goodbye!