The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Poops on TDS | Behind the Show

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

Triumph the Insult Comic Dog makes a special appearance on the Ears Edition to poop on all things Daily Show, much to the chagrin of TDS writer/producer, Matt O’Brien. Matt is then joined by longtim...e collaborator, Robert Smigel, to discuss Triumph’s recent TDS focus group with undecided voters as well as Triumph’s early segments that got him thrown out of practically every RNC and DNC convention he went to. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Survivor 47 is here, which means we're bringing you a brand new season of the only official survivor podcast on fire. And this season we are joined by fan favorite and Survivor 46 runner-up, Charlie, Charlie, I'm excited to do this together. Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here, and I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a survivor player for season 47. Listen to On Fire the official Survivor podcast starting September 18th wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the Daily Show Ears edition. My name's Matt O'Brien. I'm a producer and writer on the show.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And I'm here with a very special guest who dropped by to interview a panel of undecided voters on the show. It's Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog. Welcome, Triumph. Thank you. Thank you. That's a great question. Yes, I work on the show. You're not Conan O'Donnell. No, no relation. You do work on the show? I'm a writer
Starting point is 00:01:13 producer. Of course, you're a white, middle-aged man. You're a writer. Can we get some diversity in here, for God's sakes? All right. Let's just go with it. Triumph. Let's get into it. I've, Matt. thi. Yes, yes, yes, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, I, I, th, I, I, I, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I, I, I, I, I work, I, I work, I work, I work, I, I, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, I work, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I work, All right, let's just go with it. All right, let's triumph, let's get into it. I have Matt, Matt and I have worked together. Matt's just like Matt is a very well-respected has been who used to work at the Conan O'Donnell show. The two of us did many reports together and I just read that from a prompter. I don't remember him at all. And it's led us here to this podcast. It's led us here to the nadir of show business.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Thank you for inviting me to record in a room smaller than, slightly smaller than a handicapped bathroom stall. Seriously, am I taping a podcast or being held for ransom? This is where ISIS shot all their videos, right? Very exciting. No, I kid, I kid. It's nice, it doesn't have anything to do. This is the room where you euthanize all the correspondence who don't find loving homes, right?
Starting point is 00:02:19 No, I love this place. Great room. Have you called David Ellison? Maybe he doesn't know that buying Paramount comes with a free, shitty podcast studio. That would put it over the top? Yes. Skydance, get Skydance on the phone. That's good, yes. There you go. That was a little improv from Matt.
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Starting point is 00:03:22 What happened? Did his only fans account not take off? I was enjoying the show when you had the celebrity hosts, honestly. You know? A lot of good ones. Yeah, I mean, it was like watching I Love the 90s. Seriously, I, I, I, for years I'd been biting my paws, wondering what D.L. Hugley's politics are like. No, it's great.
Starting point is 00:03:49 It's great. So, um, no, but you're on the Daily Show. So what's it like to work on the only comedy central show that isn't a Futurama rerun? Well, it's, uh, it's on the East Coast, it's close to my home. Right. It's an honor. So is White Castle, you know, you could be working the my home. It's an honor and I specifically... So is White Castle, you know, you could be working there. It pays about the same at this point. I had moved out West to get away from working with Triumph. And... Yes. So did Conan. It's a... his entire crew to the left coast because Triumph is a New
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yorker. That paid off. I called Leno and I said, fuck that guy. And he said, no, right away, sir, right away. I had a lot to pull back in the aughts. Anyway, no, you know, this is great back here on the Daily Show. So what's the topic of the show today? Republicans are bad or Trump is bad? It's a little of both. We try to hit to hit to hit to hit to hit to hit to hit th. to hit th. to th. to to to th. th. to th. to th. to to th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. to th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. tho' th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I tho. I tho. tho. I tho. I tho. I'm. the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. I'm. t. I'm. tha. a little of both. We try to hit both sides. It must be tough figuring out which to do on what night. Four nights a week, my God, keep it up though, keep it up. No, seriously, you guys do do important work. I mean, the state of politics is such a joke.
Starting point is 00:05:00 So it's just great that you guys have found a way to take all the humor out of it. Fat Humpf! That's a good joke. It's a good solid joke. For me to pop on, and we're out. And Curtin. Are we good? Yes. Well, all right, Trime.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Thank you for unloading all the ammo on me. It's what I do. It's what I do. I don't know how I was forced into doing this, but I'm certainly glad I was. I only kid, it's all coming from a place of truth. You know that. I know. We've known each other for a long time. And I can't disagree with any of it.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yes. We are now going to talk to the hand up here, asked Robert Smigle about the piece you did for the show. We're back with Robert Smigle, the hand up the ass of Triumph, the insult comic dog. Robert, of course, is a legendary comedy writer and gave me my start. the hand up the ass of Triumph the insult comic dog. Robert, of course, is a legendary comedy writer and gave me my start. You let me write for try it. I did. I'd say, would you like a start? You said, I very much would.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So you probably didn't start doing politics until 204, until probably 2004, right? I think you're right. I don't think I ever did politics until 2004. It was mainly, it was things like Bon Jovi, Star Wars, pop culture stuff. Yeah. And we met through we met. We met. So the the way it happened is, believe it or not, I was a production assistant at the
Starting point is 00:06:33 Daily Show. Right. And we met you were at the 2004 Democratic Convention in Boston. Yeah. I think you were shooting that Triumph movie. Yes. . I think you were shooting that Triumph movie. I was shooting a Triumph movie for Columbia, I think, that the Fairley Brothers were producing it and we shot a bunch of footage.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I got thrown out of the DNC twice. I remember seeing one of them. One time when I crashed Bill O'Reilly's show, I followed Michael Moore in. He brought me in, Michael Moore did. I was making fun of him. And he th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I tham, I tham, I tham, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiolioliolioliolioli. I thi. I thi, Michael Moore did, I was making fun of him, and he said, come follow me. And then, he followed me in and I'm like heckling O'Reilly in between commercial breaks and stuff, and O'Reilly's having fun. But then like, the cops come in and they're like they didn't see that I'm not credentialed or something. Right. And Michael Moore literally says he followed me in here.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Like he didn't say he's with me. He threw you under the bus? Yeah. That's the man you're looking for. Exactly. I've never stuck my hand up that ass, sir. I've never met that asshole. That hand is not buying.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I find this whole thing childish rudimentary. This is, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I is, I is, I is, I is, I that hand is not I find this whole thing childish rudimentary yes I harass security guards at auto automobile industry offices I yeah I would never make fun of someone of Bill O'Reilly statute I limit my harassment to security guards at major corporations office buildings. Anyway, I thought we had great footage, but we showed a compilation to the studio and they just killed the project. Really? Yeah, it was weird. They were like, there's no story here and I like had a whole treatment that was going to be a story that we were going to shoot later. Right. We had the first thing we shot was the convention. It was like so there you're just grabbing moments. That's a usually a good Fishing expedition for triumph because of course I mean there's a ton of people in one. Yeah, so you and I went to the 2008 Republican convention together and it was quite different because
Starting point is 00:08:48 We were there with NBC. Yes, and we had like an escort tak. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the. the. theeeeeeea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the the the the the there with NBC. Yes. And we had like an escort taking us, it was like crazy compared to what I did on my own for this movie studio. We were right on the floor. Yeah, right on the floor of the 2008 convention. And they're setting up, would you like to talk to the governor of Minnesota? Would you like to talk to this person? We harassed Anderson Cooper made a made a to made a to to to to to to this person. We harassed Anderson Cooper. Made a great segment. Didn't get thrown out. We went to a wind lobbyist party and sang a song about abortion. Yes. Sarah Palin's song. Sarah Braint, good times, come on. But I think they had a live band and you said, well, can I just
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Starting point is 00:09:47 Let's celebrate. But this is also a giant. I feel like Conan made us cut that line. No, that aired. That aired? Oh, I don't remember. That was my favorite. I'm not sure about the rape line.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I know the previous line here. But these are huge opulent seafood towers and giant parties. Oh yeah, yeah, no. Being Republican donors dancing away, not listening closely, it was heaven. Why did they say yes? I never understood why people said yes. I know. At the 2004 Republican convention, I was also thrown out.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And this was really guerrilla. Because my movie had been stopped. So me and like just three friends just got passes somehow and I just brought in my own camera and I was just sitting there. And during George Bush's speech, I remember I had a Triumph, not me. Triumph was wearing one of those ridiculous Republican hats that had an elephant's trunk. It was just an elephant's trunk. Okay. People would wear it over their foreheads. and so tri-tri-tri-I, th, and th, and th, and th, and so, and so, and so, th, and so, and so, and so, th, and so, th, and so, and so, and so, and so, th, and so, th, and so, and so, and so, and so, th, and so, th, and so th, I just just, thri-like, I just just just th, and th, and th, just just just just just just th, just just just just th, th, just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi-s, thi an elephant's trunk. It was just an elephant's trunk. People would wear it over their foreheads.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And so Triumph, I had Triumph screaming, you know, for Bush, cheering every time. And each time he cheered, the elephant's trunk would drop. So it was around his neck and there's around his chest till finally it was between his legs. And it's this long elephant trunk hanging between his legs and he's screaming at the top of his lungs and the cops finally noticed and detained me. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah. One of the best moments of going to a political convention with you and Triumph is going through security because they make you unpack your bag on a table. So you have to take out the puppet. Oh yeah. on a table. So you have to take out the puppet, the elephant hat, you're laying out all these things that you're bringing in. All the props. And these very stern looking security guards are that's right. Wanding them. Oh, okay, yeah, no bomb in this puppet. I remember there was... Yes. Okay, put it back in. I remember one time I think it was at that DNC. We really wanted to do this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. to to to the the thi. to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. te. te. te. te. te. toge. toge. toge. toge. te. te. te.e. te. tea. te. te. te. te. te. teC, we really wanted to do this thing where Triumph had been fucking a poodle and he was stuck. They got locked like dogs do and he's supposed to interview some famous politician but he's still stuck in the
Starting point is 00:11:55 poodle and we just could not get the apparatus or the dog into security. It would have been the best thing ever to have Triumph walking through because we had a remote set up so that like I could make tryma talki try try try try try try try try try try try try try trym trym trym trym trym trym trym tryn't tryn't to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the thing ever to have Triumph walking through because we had a remote set up So that like I could make Triumph talk by a remote control Yeah, we used it once on the comedy central show we did like 20 years ago on TV Funhouse, but Yeah, we had a remote control that I where I could make Triumph slip lips and talk without having my hand up his ass and we had him hooked up to this poodle. And he's like, help somebody, anybody know what to do. I feel like it would be quicker to just tell us which conventions you haven't been thrown out of. Because the 2004... The ones I haven't gone to, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah. Anyway, the point is, what were we talking about? There is no point. There's never been a point to triumph. I met you at the 2004 convention, you were doing all these shows and I was roaming the floor with Stephen Colbert and you were talking to Stephen Colbert and I think you just said something along the lines of like, hey, I need a thousand jokes in the next month. To, hey, I need, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I th, I thi, I thin, I thin, I thin, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I met, I met, I mean, I met, I met, I met, I met, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, I to, I to, I to, I th, I th, I th, I met, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, the, th all the shows and I think I think I just said hey I'll send you some jokes and I remember this Colbert said like hey the young Matt here didn't we run into Steve didn't I run into Stephen outside the
Starting point is 00:13:13 convention like online to get in one night with the night John Kerry was making his speech and that's when I remember you taking out all of these insane ridiculous props for security to wand as you were going in. Yeah. Everybody else had their briefcases and their documents. And I've got these ridiculous props. Yes, I remember seeing Stephen there covering for the Daily Show. That's exactly right. And he had me harmonized with him to the Star Spangled Banner. Outside, there's footage of it. I have it at home. Yeah. Nobody's seen it. No. Yes. Anyway, yes. So we've he he he he he he he he he he he he he so, so we we so, so we so, so we so, so we've, so we've, so we've, so we've, so we've th. So, so we've th. So, so we've th. So, so we've th. th. th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. th. th. th's footage of it. I have it at home. Yeah. Nobody's seen it. No. Anyway, yes, so we've been to, you and I have been to many political conventions together. I remember the 2008 one was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Then did we go in Florida in 2012, right? To Tampa? To Tampa? Was that the time I had Mr. Met with me? No, that was the spin room on Long Island at Hofstra University. Was that a debate? That was a debate. That was a debate. That was a Republican debate. Yes, and we brought Mr. Met and we photo bombed Greda Van Sustren on Fox News. I think it like one in the morning. Yeah, well it's like after the whatever the debate and they're doing their wrap-up analysis and she's talking to Susan Estrich or some such pundit. For people that don't know the spin room is this room after a debate where all of the
Starting point is 00:14:35 pundits and political operatives gather in a room and talk to as many outlets as possible to get their talking points. They're holding signs representing the candidates. So you can be, you can get 20 people in, in a half hour easily. Yeah, but then I took to photo bombing and I've had a lot of fun photo bombing and that time, you know, Triumphs peaking behind Greta of Ancestr and then he gestures and brings in Mr. Met, a giant baseball head, and then he started humping Mr. Met's nose behind Greta Vance Sustron. So, yeah, I was proud of that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm trying to think who played Mr. Met. Oh, man, I don't. I don't think so. I don't remember. I think there was just some actor that we... Nobody else was willing to... No, we needed to pay an actor. Nobody was willing. It was the real Mr. Met. Yeah. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:15:31 This election cycle has already been quite a ride. T. theirction cycle has already been quite a ride. Scared, Nause. tho'n'a'e'e'n'e'n't thi. tolde. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It th. It's th. It's th. It's the their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the the. the. the the. the the. the. to help. I'm John Lovett and each week me and my co-host John Favre, Tom Favre, Tommy Vitor, and Dan Fifer break down the political news that makes you laugh, cry, and scream into the void to help you figure out what matters and what each of us can do about it. Pods Save America, the context you need for next week's news when you won't be burdened by what has been. Welcome back to the Daily Show Ears edition. All right, so now let's talk, I guess, about what we did for the Daily Show. Yes, it was fun to be back on late night television. This is your first late night appearance.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Foray, since my appearances on Colbert, I did a, so Conan went out of business a few years ago, right? And I took to working for Colbert, I did. I successfully got the show canceled as the head writer. I took it to its death nail. Right, I started the show. I finished it all off. I rearranged the chairs until it was under water. I remember when when when when when when when when when when when when when when when I the the th. I was like th. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the th....... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. too. took, took, th. took, th. th. th. th. th. th. I met you, I was like, I see something in this guy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He's the one. He feels like a finisher. And I spoke to John Stewart and the producer, Jen Flans, and they were very kind and anxious to have Triumph show up in an election year. So we started with something that I don't really do very much as trimf. I'm usually running around chasing people. I. I was I was I was I was the Trump. I was I was the Trump. I was the Trump. I was the Trump. I was the the the the the th. I was at the tre. I was at tr. I was at tr. I was at tr. I was at tr. I'm. I'm. I'm, I'm, I'm, tri. I'm, tri. tri. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tee. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t do very much as Triumph. I'm usually running around chasing people. I recently I was at the Trump Trial, outside the Trump trial. I just taped it myself with some friends, some writers, Josh Comer's Todd Levin, some of my best writers.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And yeah, and we put it on my YouTube channel, Triumph's YouTube channel, but I was very excited to come and have the opportunity to do the daily show to do to do to do to do to do to do to do the the to do the the thea the the trile, the the thea thea trile, thea, trile, tri, tri, tri, tria, tria, tr triom, true, true,to do the Daily Show. And so I did something that has been done on the Daily Show a few times where they do focus groups, where they take an actual panel of voters, whether it's Trump supporters or whatever. In this case, I thought it would be funny to do undecided voters, because it's really hard to believe that anybody could be undecided after all this time. At this point. Yeah. So, as undecided, let's go around the room. Tell us your name and what your fucking problem is.
Starting point is 00:17:52 We've never had worse choices in my opinion. I don't like either candidates. Same as other people said. I'm not really crazy about either candidate. Okay, I see some of you feel you need more information about the candidates, and I get it. We know so little about Trump and Biden. Apart from their campaign issues, their actions as president,
Starting point is 00:18:14 their handling of the global pandemic, their criminal indictments, whom they've showered with, and a very detailed description of Trump's penis from a former porn star. But we still don't know. It's like what else do you need to know? Or why the fuck are you focusing on like I'm worried he's too old or he's too mean? It's like their, their differences pull, you know, their differences on the issues are so profound
Starting point is 00:18:43 that it's just comical to me that people are focusing on anything else. And these guys have been political fixtures now for. We've known Trump for 40 years. We've known both of them for like a total, almost decades. Yeah. You add up the years we've known them, and it's older than, you know, it's almost as old as they are actually. So yeah, so I just thought it was a
Starting point is 00:19:07 really comical setup for Triumph to mock these people and it's a little different than the focus groups that I've seen in the past in that in those there's a lot of back and forth. Right. You really get to hear the opinions of these people. Sure. Triumph kind of, he kind of does most of the talking. It's a one-sided conversation. It's mostly one way, you know, people get in little lines here and there, but for most parts. It's incoming fire for people, for the most part. It's not unlike a lot of Triumph's remote, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That's kind of like Triumph's interview with you at the beginning of this show. I was demonstrating. You take it on the chin for 10 minutes and then that's enough. You stick, you say a couple of things in between, but mostly you're just letting triumph. The problem is is when you're fighting back it really is, it's a rubber puppet. So you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a th. Yeah, it's, it's a thi, it's thi, it's th. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a th. th. th. th. thi. t. t. tape. tape. tape. tape. tape. t. tape. tape. tape. tape. tape happened was, again, in 2004, I was covering the Republican Convention just for my own enjoyment, hoping that I could get a movie together, and I was invited by MSNBC to do their after show. I forget what it was called, but it was hosted by Ron Reagan, Jr. and Joe Scarborough, and they had as a guest,
Starting point is 00:20:25 the late great actor, Ron Silver. For those who remember, Ron Silva, he kind of talked like this, he was in a very active Republican actor. And he, anyway, he got very serious with me. It was really fun. It's always fun when somebody really wants to get into a debate with the rubber puppet. And Ron Silver, we got in each other's face arguing.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And I continually made fun of him and his political points. Well, because on camera, it looks like in person, he can see your face saying these things right to him. But on camera, it looks like he's arguing with a rubber dog. He is. Well, no, he doesn't see my face. I was actually crouched under the table. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a round table show just like with this kind of table. And on those, I have to crouch under the table. So I'm like, you know, I don't know what would possess someone to say, well, I'm going th th. I th. Well, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. tho, I'm thi. thi. tho, well, well, well, well, well, I was actually th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was actually th. I was actually th. I was actually th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the. thro. the throooeeeeeeeeat th. theeeeeeee. th. thee. the. the. th. th dog here. He just really wanted to get out. The risk reward is terrible. He felt like that he needed to be the Republican speaking up against all these other people. This is my moment. Yeah and so he didn't care if he was doing it against you know Joe Scarborough or or a latex
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Starting point is 00:22:16 Was Trump was inaugurated and I had already done some Trump rallies for my Hulu specials that I did in 2016. But once Trump was inaugurated, there was a different attitude among his supporters like, fuck you, we're not taking this. Like two different people grabbed the cigar out of Triumph's mouth and broke it. Oh wow. Yeah, for real. Just because everybody was the enemy at that point. Anybody that wasn't newsmax. And it was like, stop fucking with us. This is our day. Yeah, and like there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. we won, this is our day. Sure. And like there was a biker guy, there were a bunch of bikers there for Trump. Yeah. And one biker really got in my face and then another.
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Starting point is 00:23:13 It's just a clown, you know, just, just. There's a great opening line in that piece about the sun. There was not many celebrities. the the the the thececececececececececececececece. the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they th. th. they they they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're. they're. they's. they's. they's. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. the sun. Oh, it was the, there was not many celebrities here. It was, it was the son was one of the many celebrities who decided not to show up. Yeah. Great. So we did an undecided voter panel and these, I mean, you're right, it's usually triumph is a little bit of a fishing expedition. You have the jokes organized on a document, kind of by, well, I had jokes on a document here. And that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece piece, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th piece piece. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the thi. thi. thi. things. things. things. things. te. things. the the te. thi. the the the the the the the thi. the the the thi. triumph is a little bit of a fishing expedition. You have the jokes organized on a document kind of by... Well I had jokes on a document here and that's always like kind of a mixed blessing because I like I remember the first few I did at the Westminster Dog Show I didn't have jokes and it was a lot of improv and they went really well because it was so new and they was really funny.
Starting point is 00:24:02 classic piece. Yeah the very first one. I mean, they put it up for the Emmys. And but then we did another one with Hollywood scores and then we went back to Westminster and I was like, I think this time I should maybe we should prepare some jokes and then the jokes were so great that I was like, okay, every time we do this, let's all get together and write jokes. And sometimes I have so many jokes that I don't give myself the space to relax and act enough. Sure, sometimes. Even with this piece, I feel like it would have been nice to play around. Like I remember when we were in Minnesota, we did like a bonus piece on our own.
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Starting point is 00:25:28 All right, so back to the Daily Show piece. I thought it came out really well. I thought the people were really good sports about it. Yeah. A lot of people asked me and said, is very good about. I never want people. It's not an ambush. Yeah. They should be in on the joke. They should feel okay. And even, I mean, it's very rare that I go up to someone and not make the effort to ask them first if it's okay to talk to them. No matter who it is. Pretty much anyone but Lindsay Graham. If it's a person who, there's a bar of despicability that, you know, that if you can't reach, then and those people are arguably way more fair game.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah, public figures, yeah. And it's, and also there's like, yeah, and I have an internal voice that tells me, he's gonna say no if you ask. Yes, ask for forgiveness. Yeah. So after this, after, after, after the daily show, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th., the, the, the, the, that, that, tha, tha, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, ask. Yes, ask for forgiveness. Yeah. So after this, after after the Daily Show, what are you going to do with the puppet? I don't know. We'll see, we might do more on the Daily Show. That would be fun since it's an election year. I don't know. I'd love to go back and cover Ted Cruz's campaign again.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I've covered Ted Cruz running for president. And it's his turn again. I would love to go back and harass some of the, that would be fun to hit some of the craziest congressional or Senate candidates. And then I got some stuff I've been doing. There's also stuff online that people actually should check out. Yeah, I've been doing some live shows. I do a game show on the road sometimes called Let's Make a Poop. It's a lot of fun. It's sort of a Jeopardy kind of game where the celebrity panelists have to guess the correct answer to questions, but they don't have to guess the correct
Starting point is 00:27:17 answer. They have to come up with a funny answer, the correct funny. And it's really a lot of fun. And I did a show from San Francisco with Weird Al Yankovic and Rob Schneider, Amber Ruffin was there. It was a great night. That's online. It's on the Team Coco YouTube page and it's also on the Triumph YouTube page and I'm gonna come out with another one that I did recently from Chicago where we actually got former governor Rod Blagoievich sit in on the panel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And he spent some time in prison. He spent like six or seven years in prison and then Trump commuted his sentence. Commuted his sentence. And now he calls him. So if you're wondering what he's up to now, Yeah. He calls himself a Trumpocrat now.
Starting point is 00:28:00 As if there's even, as if that makes any sense at all. No, I told him. Yeah, that's like Does he still have the legendary quaff the Blago? Oh God, yeah, yeah. I said you know what Trump loves about you is you know because he was he was on celebrity apprentice with Trump. Right. That's how Trump got to know him and like him. He said you know I think Trump likes you, you know, because you both show no remorse or forehead. All right, so you'll probably do some more of those, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's that and I'm writing, well, you know, I wrote a movie with Adam Sandler called Leo that I'm very proud of and it's on Netflix. Yes, that's for kids, but parents too. All, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th, yeah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to, to. to. to, to, to. to, to to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. thro. to thro. the. the. the. tho. to-. to-I. to-I. to-I. to-I. do. All right. Well check it out. Check that out as well.
Starting point is 00:28:47 All right. Well, I want to thank everybody for listening and Robert Smigle and Triumph The Insult Comic Dog for I've rarely ever hosted a podcast but I feel like I'm very good at it and I see a very very strong future for myself. I thank you did an excellent job for me to poop on. Yay. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Fairount Plus. This election cycle has already been quite a ride. Scared, nauseous, wishing this thing had seatbelts.
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